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has been a very long trip through egypt and
turkey nearly seven weeks so i'm trying to

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back under me we made a lot of really
interesting observations went to a lot of

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on the road that we recorded in cairo
basically right next to the the great

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middle pyramid over there in giza along with
kyle and russ allen the brothers of the

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on a lot of these trips with me it was a
great conversation we wanted to record

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about the big news that happened while we
were away and certainly something that i'v...

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a team of italian scientists who are using
synthetic aperture radar to talk about and

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suggest that there are these massive
subterranean structures beneath the middle

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to address that and and give our thoughts on
it now we did record this at this point

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ago i know a lot more information and data
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data and seeing if there are more results and
more information about the process and things

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like that come up but you can listen to what
we have to say about it in the podcast als...

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into some new observations about the well
shaft and the grotto inside the great pyra...

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pretty interesting footage i think you'll
enjoy as well as getting into some new vas...

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there's been some more studies done on these
ancient hardstone vases that lead to some

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colin russ we used the equipment we had on
the road uh we weren't really planning on

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recording like this mistakes were made on the
audio side of things but i think it's it's

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i hope you enjoy the conversation i certainly
did and i'll catch you guys the next one i've

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got a lot of content planned and coming out
here pretty soon cheers all right welcome

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ladies and gentlemen boys and girls angels
and demons and monsters and serpents we

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we are here in egypt in cairo actually right
next to the giza plateau the pyramids are

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right there uh which is fantastic we're here
for one night we so we've had a long trip

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still not over yet we uh we had a two-week
tour the classic uncharted x brothers of t...

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tour uh two weeks long multiple you know uh
special permissions it's just a two-week tour

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we went diving diving yusuf got certified oh
yeah and he is just like this is great

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he's a fish yeah yeah he's a natural took to
it like naturally yeah he's great it was

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we went on a bunch of dives with the yusuf
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went up to dahab uh where we had never been i
had never been there have you been no no n...

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yeah in the places like that in thailand
where dahab reminded me of towns like that

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a unique atmosphere for egypt yeah that way
yeah and we did some exploration and divin...

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well and uh we'll talk about that but other
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that happened is right after we get to egypt
this story drops of like massive uh

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beneath kafre

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feet 600 meters meters yes yeah yeah so i
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i don't know i got thousands i mean i i
seriously had people emailing it to me and

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constantly like yeah what about this and i
was just like ah and we were of course in

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the top of my head uh as it was i had i had
to request from all sorts of people to do

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as a matter of fact yeah you did i did um
yeah that piers morgan thing i had an invi...

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i declined i just didn't think i had a lot to
add to the conversation and i'm just not that

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interested in mainstream media but but yeah
it's like this crazy story came out it rea...

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internet on fire well yeah i it was amazing
to see and i'm really happy for the people

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views of noticing that it was the hot topic
yeah yeah a blessing and a curse we're her...

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massive story is dropping but because we're
here and working like on the tour we can't

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couldn't publish anything about it yeah i
wouldn't have anyway i mean i'm too last o...

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news yeah well i mean kyle and i will do news
stories but it's a lot of times the news

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they've been just published he's like hey hey
i mean this story has just happened 10 yea...

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but seriously this story actually is old i
mean the data is old yes actually it's lik...

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they they already tried one publication yes
and it didn't really get any traction and

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so that was and that original public so for
people that don't know living under a rock

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i mean the names we've got an article like we
can get into the names but the day i know ...

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i knew the technology when i saw it because
we will actually hear again i think in 2022

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when they had published like the news yeah a
previous study that they use similar or th...

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sar synthetic aperture radio radar technology
to basically say that they found all these

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and structures inside the great pyramid right

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muon detection team sort of really announced
they we found this big void it's like 2022

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it feels like that was what i knew about it
in 22 but yeah and then and the sar data

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big void but it was in a completely different
place it was in the pyramid it didn't matc...

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no it didn't match up and you know they
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the paper i mean i know it was under
discussion my discord we had a few really

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with about it was some very interesting
things and i think it's a really good thin...

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people that were in the know about you know
satellite technologies radar and we'll sor...

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stop the people that do math on the back of a
napkin kind of can't stop which this is where

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you lose me but yeah but yeah it showed these
huge big ramps and these structures are ju...

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like you know massive scale comparative to
anything that we you know the known the known

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passages and changes inside the great pyramid
and that came out and it pretty much fell ...

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it just fell flat on like deaf ears yeah i
called in a tweet when i was mad about it i

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that it it isn't showing the actual known
chambers it's not like yeah i mean so i di...

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when i went back and i zoomed right in on
that image i i actually you can look at it

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actually it might actually show it in like
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compared to the other thing so i just read
that it wasn't it didn't really show it ye...

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the middle one is is salt like this and this
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i know that the muon detection team the scam
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the chambers are just in the bedrock below
the pyramid like in the center and they ha...

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gear up and they were looking up you didn't
get the full coverage of the base but it w...

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cone shape going up from from that base
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these scans come out and they say well
there's actually it happens to be five now

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to be fair the sensors that the that the muon
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they're not down they're not 600 meters down
underground they only can detect what's above

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because they're however low they're since
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is only really from the looking up yeah

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works like and it can find small voids on the
great pyramid they found that void just above

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the chevrons at the entrance and they drilled
a hole in everyone's like oh yeah yeah so

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have confirmation of it works yes and so then
you have these the sar scans and i forget

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we'll talk about the stuff the nose like
really deep in the ground but they've talk...

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there are five king's chamber like

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carfrae yeah carfrae and yeah and those
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so the just just like what i've read and like
i talked to um one of the guys on the tour

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brian there was uh he he was he was the first
one that like just basically laid out like

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sar works all right this is this radar but
it's a moving radar

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the ground and so it has two things it has
distance of reflection but then it has

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because the the the device is moving the
sensors are moving so then they'll get

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back here and it has the doppler effect or
the reflections from here that where you k...

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direction that it's moving so you have like a
lot more data to work with and it's way

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like these these small seismic shifts so the
radar data is is let's say it's coming dow...

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it's taking a sample of the surface and then
the surface shifts a little bit due to

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activity and it takes another sample because
it has this doppler it can it can detect

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like an all like two

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going on with this how the way they're trying
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deep underneath the ground because typically
sar is just a it's just a topography yeah

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surface map and now it can penetrate a few
maybe a meter or something into like ice a...

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different materials um but but it's the
seismic they had said that that it was

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it that was to be honest i mean and this is
bringing like some of the language of like

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transparent yeah like a crystal this is kind
of language anywhere i was quite skeptical

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immediately i was like nope yes and however a
big part of that for me was that immediately

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when i looked at the structures themselves
they didn't look anything like anything th...

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necessarily if some structures like this did
exist they may not be egyptian at all it's

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mean well yeah so i can't argue with them but
it's it's could pre-exist predate pyramids

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yeah but okay maybe but what we seem to see
is that the older stuff is influencing the

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you're probably not picking it up but yeah
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happened down there sounded like a car
something like with trash pick up car cras...

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cart running into a camel at me we're later
now nasa del samara man anything goes on

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but yeah so yeah i i just where do we find
like massive cylindrical shafts with spira...

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cylindrical shaft and there is like a
staircase entering it but not not like thi...

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no this is very small this is like nile flood
you know the flooding the waters would com...

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down and they they call it the uh nilometer
the nilometer it's measuring the depth of ...

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now i'm here no exactly now i mean my small
structures like this there's one on um

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later and these are monstrous like these are
600 meters i mean yes and they're gigantic

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supposedly open up into four into two giant
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seems to have like tunnel pathways and
tunnels going off and they're

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seems to have like pathways and tunnels going
off in there so they that was the main thing

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the first thing that happened to me is when
i'm starting to read it and i'm like okay

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interesting science right and this i don't
know about this sar concept right but

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i started seeing i don't know when you start
reading a paper you want it to be i don't

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you just you kind of yeah you don't want to
see any like oh wow this could be the the

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eventi or whatever right there was some
language and you know it's not fair and it...

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admittedly i think it's one of the guys in my
district pointed this out i mean it is ad

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however you know some of these guys are
associated with some publications

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yeah divine proven like just this like
they've been chosen to reveal this to the

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of language yeah right so immediately that
kind of put me off a little bit i mean loo...

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say this however having also then talked to
some people and done a bit more research i

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mean my conclusion on and we can talk about
the findings and we can read some of the

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my my overall place on this is i think the
technology seems really promising frankly

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yeah

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to the renderings of these images that have
been circulating the internet and setting

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fire and basically creating clickbait and
news headlines and you know pierce morgan ...

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like that are like uh wanting to talk about
it and so it's and and as far as i know al...

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is a bit of a black box procedure we don't
know really how they got to and i think

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they do also say that these are the the
authors of the book and they're not the

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it's a graphical reconstruction of what they
think they came up with from the scan data

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i mean you see the scan results it's like
these these wavy lines and it is

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you know like you said it's this it's this
model that uses combines data from two

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yeah the synthetic aperture radar stuff with
the doppler effect on the surface and then

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thing on a mine like like a like a known mine
like there's some deep mines you know

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yeah and they've got shafts these
subterranean mines how about you image tha...

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going to see voids and you know i just you
know i might i think i made some smallest

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the cro's calling because they want to know
where the bunkers are under the kremlin su...

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pointed at the currently used 20 year old you
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the kremlin figure out where the bunkers are
i mean i think that's the that's the

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trick here is that they're suggesting that
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so you need a giant pyramid you need that
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with this like it's it's tuned into the
seismic resonance of the earth or somethin...

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that's making it like a crystal like they
they point it out this is this is part of

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the reason why i think it's i'm just like
super skeptical as well because it's like

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yeah i'll tell you this we'll give you this
they're monitoring this all the way if you

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my problem with it is this if you want a
crystal to resonate at a specific frequency

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it has to have all of the mass

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right like let's say you design this crystal
perfectly and it has this certain mass

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and it's going to resonate at a certain
frequency

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right if you remove a ton of that mass from
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changes so how is it still acting like this
perfect crystal when it's so like it it

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been millions of tons of stone removed from
it it's also not solid right i mean and wh...

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to be fair there were also some other
mistakes where they said that i know in th...

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they said things like well the pyramid is is
on sand it's not on sand it's no it's

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one grand casing stones maybe one a few yeah
maybe two courses were casing granite but

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and they're not there i mean most of them are
gone there's like some yeah there's remnan...

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it's like one percent or less yeah that was
one of the main errors i saw in the 2022

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say that the kung kufu pyramid is comprised
primarily of granite and i'm like what no

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this is a this seems like a like an easy area
to go through but i don't think it's going...

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make extraordinary planes like this and you
know you have to be skeptical of them and

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require extraordinary evidence and don't i
can say it little little okay don't say th...

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all i'm saying is like little mistakes like
that don't help credibility that's right y...

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of mistake does not help the credibility yeah
because anyone that knows anything about t...

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this thing isn't made of granite who's
telling them it's made of granite that's w...

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like which which one of the

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like none of them have been here i i know
yeah when i'm inside you asked kick to fit...

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because he's like they have no permission
there's nothing there you don't need

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something there we knew about it already yeah
you don't need permission to look at it wi...

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yeah i know and i'm sorry zahi but they don't
need permission to do this yes yeah so the

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look for one or two the other issue is they
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do the analysis to get yeah the from the
imaging that they got yeah they're saying

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their method that we're using them i can read
it there's a quick in the abstract uh a

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synthetic aperture radar is that due to the
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waves inside solid bodies

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only on the surface of distributed targets
the present work describes an imaging meth...

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on the analysis of micro movements on the kum
kufu pyramid which from now on i'll just

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to as kufu which are usually generated by
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proved to be very promising as high
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domain so at least in that they're not
necessarily saying that only the pyramid d...

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saying the micro movements the doppler all
this stuff makes the pyramid itself

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right that's another that's another way of
saying we can see structures underground y...

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yeah it's that terminology like oh the
pyramid becomes like a crystal

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that they say based on this novelty which
does make me think that what you're saying

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may be hinting that this is a novel thing
that the pyramid becomes transparent right

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novelty we have completely reconstructed
internal objects observing and measuring

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have never been discovered before now again
this is not coffrey this is about kufu the

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and they do have the known chambers but it
doesn't tell you that that reconstruction ...

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their data yeah yeah right so it's like
they've they've put in all these chambers

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to sort of wrap around the base you know and
ramps yeah all the ramps and everything an...

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have the known passages and chambers but it
doesn't say that this whole thing is based

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the pyramid becomes transparent will your
process be transparent that's the question

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that's where a lot of people landed it's like
yep okay this the technology seems to be

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yeah it probably needs still some proving out
i mean and it then just transparency on th...

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to how did you get from a to b yeah with the
tailing uh but hey i mean look if this is

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the other i gotta go i gotta go on more on
the skirt side sorry guys but not only do ...

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look nothing like any any other you know deep
like subterranean chambers or shafts that we

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actually see and we can actually visit they
look nothing like that the geometry of them

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is but they probably end up going into
granite bedrock they're sitting entirely i...

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table oh yeah oh yeah i mean i mean 150 feet
down is water at the bottom of the osiris

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is square by the way it is square and it's
square and all the and all the other shots

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like the biggest ones are still where the
southern shaft yeah underneath the step

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square so i'm just like which doesn't suit
them being round no but it's very strange ...

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is and i just wanted the other thing i sort
of been stuff like man they'd say they hav...

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resolution with this technique yeah so how
how do you know in spiral staircase that's

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he has to the extrapolation yeah but i mean
it's a hell of a client it's yeah right yeah

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i don't know what else so well that was the
guy what was the best comment right you yo...

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guys released some uh comments on the initial
comments yeah and then there was one grubby

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morning there was one guy that was like okay
but i'm gonna keep believing this is stopp...

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seeing you to believe this is true for a
couple more weeks yeah i was like a good

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yeah stop uh stop crying yes stop impinging
on my yeah yeah the suspension of my belie...

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just be cool for a little bit longer ben you
just can just be a mystery yeah yeah yeah ...

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man like i said want to believe want to
believe oh well like it's it'll be validat...

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a kilometer down like with nothing oh i've
seen before beyond any known technology of

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of humanity that exists including today
unless you can't and then they go all the ...

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find a wooden box with a ptolemaic pharaoh in
it we have found the tomb of kufu yeah i

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was down here that's right it's got some
badly scratched yeah horrible areas on the...

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i also like let's let's go to the
mythological part of it like this idea tha...

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that this is the reason why they have the
mythology of the duod and the underworld

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and osiris going i mean this is really cool
andrew collins wrote a great article about...

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uh yes this is really cool but who is he yeah
so on graham hancock's website uh

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goes through the details real quick and then
he he gives you his thoughts and the

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the thing about the about khafre being the
tomb of hermes yeah yeah that's cool right

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thought tahodi uh now it's just this concept
of it it's the tomb of a god you know like

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we were talking about this in the first
episodes we ever published yes that like t...

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pharaohs everybody wanted to be associated
with this area because it was already anci...

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got here yeah and they thought that their
gods were actually buried here yeah entomb...

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so you want to build the temples with these
gigantic doors and super high ceilings yea...

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love it yeah i love it so i i love that like
this yeah and then you know so i'm reading

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this article by by andrew collins earlier
today and we're sitting up on the deck and...

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tomb of hermes and i look out there i'm like
holy you had a view as he's attacked by the

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view we have from this little hotel i have to
go into that as well the uh the way he

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gone through the lithics yeah on gobekli tepe
and you know on our our video of gobekli tepe

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and it was like these helwan points which are
some of the oldest ones at the bottom layer

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Yeah, yeah.

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So, yeah, going back to, like, if there was
already something, they found something he...

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Yeah.

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Yes, the temple of Horus.

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Yeah, the temple of Horus at Edfu, with the
building text, the Edfu building text in i...

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Yeah.

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Like.

250
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Yeah, a lot of it.

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This is the Zep Tepi guys, right?

252
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Yes.

253
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It speaks of the, yeah, the primeval ones.

254
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Yeah.

255
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The primeval ones.

256
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So, and then the other thing we always hear
about these pyramids is that they were bui...

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They didn't say primordial shafts.

258
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Right.

259
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No, they didn't.

260
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Yeah, it didn't.

261
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It does feel, no, the mound is the collapsed
rubble of whatever was on the south, you

262
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Well, this all, this actually brings up
speech.

263
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Oh, yeah.

264
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And all of that, like, I just, one of the
problems I have with this is, is, is like

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The bedrock here isn't, I don't, can it
sustain?

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You think the bedrock, if it was limestone,
could actually sustain shafts and structur...

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Assuming, let's just assume it's six or
seven, like 500 meters of limestone before...

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But it's limestone based on the quality of
what we've seen.

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Like, there's a reason that the agents that,
that Kyle and Russell's work on pyramid

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And when you look at places like Abrawash or,
you know, Zawid Al-Aran and even my doom

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They had to then, they had to carve it and
then they had to case it in blocks because

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And even under the great pyramid, there's
cracks, massive cracks.

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Like, there is a cave system down there.

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Like, that's, there is like cavities and
caves, like natural ones in the bedrock.

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There would need to be a major, like, like a
layer, like a very super high quality layer.

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Very thick, deep down, probably, you know, I
don't know how low these shafts or whateve...

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In other words, a bedrock layer that was
thick enough and a dense enough material a...

278
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I don't think the vertical walls would be an
issue, but whatever the roof structure is.

279
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Yeah, because, I mean, even as big as the
tiles are, and if you go to one of the bes...

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So it's the, it's the hiling system.

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So they cut down 30 feet.

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Then on the northeastern side, they had to
build it up.

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There's like two or three courses of these
massive, massive foundation stones, like a

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Some of them are like 10 meters wide.

285
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But even then, like these aren't big enough
to like span the roof of like the proposed

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And you've, then you've added what?

287
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Like.

288
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Like, you know, because this thing, this
thing was eight of these shafts, right?

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And they pretty much come right out of the
bottom of this thing and then go down deep

290
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Yeah, I just, you know, so, you know, it's a
little.

291
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Yeah, structurally it would need to be.

292
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You can imagine if anything failed in one.

293
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Yeah.

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You would lose.

295
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You get a sinkhole.

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You get a sinkhole.

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In, in the other like shafts that we know
about, the square ones, like, for example,

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Osiris shaft.

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Yeah.

300
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It's quite small.

301
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It's very small.

302
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But what Kyle noticed and he detailed in the
pyramid construction is that, you know, it

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And then they build a room beneath that.

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It becomes a ceiling.

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It becomes the roof.

306
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So you can kind of.

307
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They're not, they're not huge.

308
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But I mean, they did, they did this also at
the step pyramid.

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When we go down beneath the step pyramid, did
you see this?

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Yeah, they've now spread out a network of, of
like, you might have some reasonably large

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You go down the trap door, you go down the 30
foot ladder, whatever I'm in this.

312
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But they, that reason that's so deep is
because they went down before another layer.

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Yeah.

314
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So they could.

315
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That could be the roof of all their fricking
tunnels.

316
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,300
Yeah, and under it, like I said, yeah, they
scurry off, there's tunnels going off.

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Yeah.

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All over the place.

319
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And some reasonably large chambers, but it
does depend on that solid layer of limestone.

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I just, yeah, I just look at all that stuff
sitting under a, you know, again, I'd

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Is that the figure?

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I have no idea.

323
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Something like that.

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I can't remember.

325
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It's like 2.3 million blocks.

326
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It's 2 million blocks at like two to three
tons apart.

327
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It's 2.3 times 2.3.

328
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So the other one's not much smaller.

329
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And so let's say four to five, whatever, 5
million tons.

330
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That's a lot of mass on top of any, not what
is in lots of places, pretty poor quality

331
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Yeah.

332
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Now Giza, Giza is a little bit special in
that from many of the other places we, we'...

333
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There's no casing.

334
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You get to the cracks and then it's like,
yeah, there's a few fissures in there.

335
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Yeah.

336
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:29,260
Which, which might be also some of the SAR
data.

337
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These huge vertical fissures going way down
deep in, into the bedrock.

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If there was seismic data, they might see
what seems to be a void and it's not

339
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Right.

340
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And it might show up and be interpreted as a
void.

341
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I don't know.

342
00:35:50,980 --> 00:35:51,400
Exactly.

343
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:51,699
Yeah.

344
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That's been the, I know that's a contention
of several people who've talked about the

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Yeah.

346
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And I'm not saying that's what everything is
either.

347
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Like, like I, I, there are chambers beneath
the Sphinx.

348
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Like the, you know, we know there are
chambers and structures that we had not be...

349
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We had nothing, but nothing of the magnitude
or the depth that we're talking about.

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Like, like the stuff beneath the Sphinx.

351
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,600
Look, there's two ground penetrating radar
surveys that happened.

352
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John Anthony West and Robert Shock did one.

353
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And then the shore expedition in the late
nineties with Joseph, Joseph Shore, Joseph

354
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Boris Saeed was witness to both of these, um,
uh, expeditions.

355
00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:40,780
Both of them used ground penetrating radar.

356
00:36:40,780 --> 00:36:42,579
Both of them found the existence.

357
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Not particularly deep, like maybe 10, five
for 10.

358
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:48,539
Well, yeah.

359
00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:49,720
TPR can't go that deep.

360
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,000
It's not going to go 60, 70.

361
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,619
It's not going to go 60.

362
00:36:51,619 --> 00:36:51,940
You're right.

363
00:36:51,940 --> 00:36:52,240
Right.

364
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:53,559
But, but, but small.

365
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:54,019
Right.

366
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Small ones.

367
00:36:54,539 --> 00:36:54,720
Yeah.

368
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Regular, like what you'd expect kind of
chambers.

369
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Yeah.

370
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Um.

371
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Like enough to stash a piece, the most
important piece of a library or something.

372
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Yeah.

373
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Right.

374
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Yeah.

375
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:03,440
Exactly.

376
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Yeah.

377
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And, and then that gets dismissed as that's
natural fissures and cracks by the, the

378
00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:08,740
You know what?

379
00:37:15,699 --> 00:37:17,860
That's another thing.

380
00:37:17,860 --> 00:37:20,920
I, you just made me think of this other
problem.

381
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,440
We already have mega structures.

382
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,240
Like the mega structures are already there.

383
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The pyramids.

384
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:35,019
But like high technology often presents
itself in smaller things.

385
00:37:35,019 --> 00:37:42,460
So it's like, it's weird that like there
would be this other huge mega structure.

386
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:51,659
What would possibly be the purpose of eight
fucking massive shafts?

387
00:37:51,659 --> 00:37:51,780
Okay.

388
00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:54,340
I mean, I just, I don't know.

389
00:37:54,340 --> 00:37:56,880
Maybe this is not a good speculation there.

390
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,380
Yeah.

391
00:37:57,380 --> 00:37:57,980
I can do it.

392
00:37:57,980 --> 00:37:58,760
I can take this part.

393
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,720
Get it.

394
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:06,019
I was just sort of connecting it to the
ancient stories, the Zep Tepi, the home of

395
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ones that they wanted to rebuild the place of
creation here.

396
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,180
If they had just survived some kind of
cataclysmic event.

397
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,860
I mean, that's the first thing I think of.

398
00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:22,920
You're, you're building yourself a, a Lara,
right?

399
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,840
So you show up, you're like, oh, look at this
plateau.

400
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,400
You know, you do some SAR.

401
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,140
You're like, well, the bedrock looks pretty
good.

402
00:38:30,140 --> 00:38:33,100
You know, you do some, you do this SAR.

403
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:33,480
Yeah.

404
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,920
Bedrock looks pretty good.

405
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,199
There's some caves down there.

406
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:37,059
Maybe we can widen them.

407
00:38:37,059 --> 00:38:38,619
Drill a bunch of holes.

408
00:38:38,619 --> 00:38:39,920
Get all your equipment down there.

409
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,240
Right.

410
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:42,480
Maybe there's not even.

411
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:43,260
Spiral staircases.

412
00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:44,220
It's just a screw.

413
00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:45,360
Yeah.

414
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,360
Just run your shit down there.

415
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:47,920
Yeah.

416
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,199
We're right here.

417
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:50,039
Antigravity, whatever.

418
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:50,720
You get all your equipment.

419
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:51,600
They're the striations.

420
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,640
The drills.

421
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,760
Yeah, that's it.

422
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,340
You get all your equipment down there.

423
00:38:55,340 --> 00:38:58,140
You make a couple of big chambers to stage
all your building materials.

424
00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:00,079
You dig some tunnels and you start building
your city.

425
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:00,659
Right.

426
00:39:00,659 --> 00:39:01,559
Whatever it is underground.

427
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:08,199
And then eventually when you're no longer
afraid of the surface or when the, whatever

428
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:12,480
the, the, the ending of the ice age is
stopping, you know, you don't know you hav...

429
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:16,400
up onto the surface.

430
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:16,760
Same thing.

431
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,260
It's kind of grassy up there.

432
00:39:18,260 --> 00:39:18,519
Now.

433
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:20,220
Thing seems, seems good.

434
00:39:20,220 --> 00:39:25,039
You go up on the surface, you build some
structures on the top, you know, and you

435
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:25,199
out.

436
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:26,480
You're like, oh, there's a great river here.

437
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,340
It's got a whole branch coming along here.

438
00:39:28,340 --> 00:39:34,480
Let's build some triangles, you know, and
then the younger dryness happens.

439
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,740
Yeah.

440
00:39:35,740 --> 00:39:41,500
You know, and like four or 5,000 years later,
some dudes and butt flaps show up and they're

441
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:42,140
like, holy crap.

442
00:39:42,140 --> 00:39:42,440
Look at these.

443
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:47,740
And then they find some things, they find
some documents, maybe they find some metal

444
00:39:47,740 --> 00:39:48,360
books, whatever.

445
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,900
It's got lots of pictograms and they just
build an entire cargo cult civilization.

446
00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:56,079
1,000 ton statues just staring at the sand.

447
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:57,980
Like, I'm tired of making pottery.

448
00:39:57,980 --> 00:39:58,539
Look at there.

449
00:39:58,539 --> 00:40:00,360
I just found 100,000 stone vases.

450
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,360
We never have to make pottery again.

451
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:02,659
Yeah.

452
00:40:02,659 --> 00:40:04,059
Let's make them like this.

453
00:40:04,059 --> 00:40:04,400
Yeah.

454
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,420
Dry.

455
00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:06,380
Yeah.

456
00:40:06,380 --> 00:40:07,519
You know?

457
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:08,380
Yeah.

458
00:40:08,380 --> 00:40:12,380
I mean, it's a possibility like the rift, the
refuge one.

459
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,140
Yeah.

460
00:40:14,140 --> 00:40:15,400
I also liked it.

461
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,360
I mean, this is the technical.

462
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,360
I mean, this is any speculation to me is
really hard to get in because this is like...

463
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:24,159
if the answers outside of our current
understanding of technology, it's just lik...

464
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:28,440
space lasers and, you know, like, yeah,
whatever it's you can't, you can't.

465
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,600
I just can't.

466
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,800
It's hard to envision.

467
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:36,340
And Chris Dunn did a wonderful job of
describing this situation in his Serapium

468
00:40:36,340 --> 00:40:41,360
his new book that Tesla connection with the
really interesting, but he describes, he

469
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,360
you some examples of.

470
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:49,280
technology so small, we can't recognize it.

471
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,320
And the other thing, it could be technology
so large, we, it's, we don't really recognize

472
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,440
it.

473
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,500
And this could be me assuming let's assume
all this is true.

474
00:40:56,500 --> 00:41:02,440
And it may be, it is part of some giant
harmonic balance of, for the planet, some

475
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:02,640
thing.

476
00:40:57,739 --> 00:41:03,559
of some giant harmonic balancer for the
planet some earth system thing you know li...

477
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:09,339
yeah so it's um uh you know there's there's a
technical there's a potential technological

478
00:41:09,339 --> 00:41:16,759
um i think explanation for some of these
things just as and i i go the same route w...

479
00:41:16,759 --> 00:41:21,619
i look at the sites of giz and you look at
the obvious signs for infrastructure

480
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,019
you've got basalt that's been melting down
and because it's been in contact with with

481
00:41:32,019 --> 00:41:35,599
it's just like i think there could be
technological explanations for these thing...

482
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:40,779
we don't have the frame of reference to know
what that is yet like it's just we don't i...

483
00:41:40,779 --> 00:41:45,400
like a bunch of rocks to us when we say it's
all ceremonial and you know religious or

484
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,480
it's if there's there could be a
technological explanation for it as well i...

485
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,599
sort of functioning machine uh

486
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,500
the vases and the statues and the things that
absolutely show precision they show machining

487
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:07,819
they show evidence for high technology
essentially uh and you just don't develop

488
00:42:07,819 --> 00:42:13,400
you're chasing a specific function it's just
not how we work you just there's no reason...

489
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:19,440
precision unless it's for function once you
have it then you use it for lots of stuff

490
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,219
are so well made now

491
00:42:26,420 --> 00:42:32,279
it's just the way it works but we develop
made why aren't they clear ben oh no so i ...

492
00:42:32,279 --> 00:42:34,219
i want to toast in my toasters while it's
toasted

493
00:42:34,219 --> 00:42:41,279
and why don't and my wife will complain that
they don't toast both sides of the bread

494
00:42:41,279 --> 00:42:45,460
inside yeah but the panels on the outside are
quite the gap yes you're right the gaps ar...

495
00:42:45,460 --> 00:42:48,339
small yes they're cheap

496
00:42:48,339 --> 00:42:51,460
you're not spending enough on your toaster

497
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:09,179
but i don't know there's no little pair
burner just yeah good to go yeah i mean no...

498
00:43:09,179 --> 00:43:17,139
it toasting open files functional look
there's a relationship between precision a...

499
00:43:17,139 --> 00:43:21,420
point and and yeah and you don't develop that
unless you're toaster you're not going to ...

500
00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:21,599
unless you're toaster you're not going to be
able to toast it unless you're toaster you...

501
00:43:28,059 --> 00:43:34,980
i'm like man i don't know is this yeah it's
so challenging it's like if you were to bu...

502
00:43:34,980 --> 00:43:39,539
needed to build an underground refuge refuge
i mean maybe you just had the capability t...

503
00:43:39,539 --> 00:43:44,840
stuff that yeah about that's what we want you
know what i don't need the city to be 200

504
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,739
let's make it a kilometer down yeah like 200
meters seems sufficient maybe you want it oh

505
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:59,799
want it in the granite near the surface fair
enough you want it in the granite i mean what

506
00:43:59,799 --> 00:44:03,519
is gonna hit jesus that's a hell of a bucket
that's what i'm saying you want it in the

507
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:09,420
below like a kilometer of limestone that
might get liquefied in what sort of lane w...

508
00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:15,019
are you ever coming back to if if there's an
explosion or disaster that can hit that like

509
00:44:15,019 --> 00:44:19,679
that you are so afraid of it i mean i don't
know well i agree i mean

510
00:44:25,420 --> 00:44:32,759
on the break yeah break it break in i mean
it's like it's no they're not deep under t...

511
00:44:32,759 --> 00:44:37,519
i'm sorry i i meant you want to be in the
granite because the limestone sucks yeah b...

512
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:43,179
saying there you want to yeah we don't even
know if it's a monster right i mean yeah w...

513
00:44:43,179 --> 00:44:46,900
how far down the ground sure there is a we
know that nobody knows we know they hit

514
00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:49,719
150 feet down below the sphinx we don't well
this is the first time i've ever seen a

515
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:58,739
it's not uh it's not part of the but yeah we
don't know how far down the granite go i mean

516
00:44:58,739 --> 00:45:03,179
look the granite doesn't pop out the granite
doesn't pop out if you go south into like 600

517
00:45:03,179 --> 00:45:08,859
miles like it's yeah yeah you have to go all
the way like yeah yeah and it's it's just

518
00:45:08,859 --> 00:45:14,219
tilt it just sticks up over there yeah i
agree i'm just giving you guys reasons lik...

519
00:45:14,219 --> 00:45:18,739
want it for that part out there well this was
the best reason probably is i'm just

520
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:33,400
shaft and then open up that i don't know i
don't know why you need a shaft because it's

521
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:40,619
weak what they're trying it makes it makes it
weak yeah and also it sort of suggests tha...

522
00:45:40,619 --> 00:45:46,059
this is this is a bigger machine exactly like
then what we've been looking at we've been

523
00:45:46,059 --> 00:45:48,759
these things and we've been crawling through
these little chambers and we're like wow this

524
00:45:48,759 --> 00:45:49,539
feels like a machine

525
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,259
this is just the button you press on top yeah
exactly because they're not connected

526
00:45:59,259 --> 00:46:04,039
this yeah you're just letting me see like
these rings barking you just need to press

527
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:12,859
i'm sorry if it's i just can't i can't
believe it i just am so not believing this

528
00:46:12,859 --> 00:46:19,400
right now like i'm just it's too perfect it's
too on the nose i don't know it's so on th...

529
00:46:26,739 --> 00:46:32,539
found in the scanning like the not their
image that they came up with but like when

530
00:46:32,539 --> 00:46:40,219
the the scan data and you can see some you
know i wouldn't be surprised if that was j...

531
00:46:40,219 --> 00:46:49,039
the the quality of the limestone and also
some natural caves dude we know the platea...

532
00:46:54,340 --> 00:46:58,679
andrew collins mentioned like tomb of the
birds is a known entrance to a bunch of ca...

533
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:03,139
has discussed how his father used to go in
these things and play in them when they we...

534
00:47:03,139 --> 00:47:07,920
it's known that it's riddled with cave
systems and people have gone in there and

535
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:14,079
right yeah and they probably have been doing
that for thousands of years skeleton on th...

536
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:18,759
there's plenty of skeletons on spikes in
there and down in cracks and fissures the

537
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:30,779
to be that guy you open the door it's like

538
00:47:30,779 --> 00:47:40,519
yeah but hey at the same time i think it's
entirely possible that dyson spears are out

539
00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:45,239
there in the university you know what i mean
like it's just the scale of what is possible

540
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,840
we're just at this tiny infancy of our own
technology

541
00:47:54,699 --> 00:48:01,539
look it's just history won't harm me for not
believing something that was too on the nose

542
00:48:01,539 --> 00:48:07,359
no like in six months i could be like okay
yeah that's legit like they released all t...

543
00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:14,440
they released all their methods but right now
no and i look i'm on the i'm on the skeptical

544
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,719
side it's not like i'm trying to be this way
it's i just can't

545
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:30,179
and the values to me is is a much more
significant yeah finding it's not as excit...

546
00:48:30,179 --> 00:48:36,380
the nose that's what i'm saying it's like
it's like this is so strange so out of wha...

547
00:48:36,380 --> 00:48:44,039
think like all right like just think i'm not
like chris dunn pyramid power plant like

548
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:48,619
idea right yeah but then you you're gonna be
like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god

549
00:48:54,340 --> 00:49:01,639
confirmation and then like way over here is
this tiny little artifact that is like so

550
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:09,579
explained in another way oh um canopic jars
and blah blah and everything whatever like...

551
00:49:09,579 --> 00:49:17,980
different possible uses but hidden in it is
this super high precision which it's not o...

552
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:32,079
it's it's the vases are more reachable and i
think they're also more certainly a lot mo...

553
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:37,699
at this point i mean it's just you can yeah
it's no one's arguing with the data right

554
00:49:37,699 --> 00:49:42,239
about provenance yeah i don't want to talk
about all i mean i spent and half talking

555
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:48,420
video before i left for egypt but but we have
we have vase news yeah we do get into any

556
00:49:55,139 --> 00:50:03,079
screw these guys i'm all in okay i want to be
all i'm playing i'm i'm playing the

557
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:11,139
on on the podcast but i i am in complete
agreement that it's amazing as a possibili...

558
00:50:11,139 --> 00:50:18,480
that there are lots of tunnels and stuff
under the plateau if but this like kyle sa...

559
00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:33,619
would be much more inclined but yes like i
love him i'm not going to annoy any of the

560
00:50:33,619 --> 00:50:39,239
for whatever reason to watch this podcast i
mean uh prove us wrong i mean i i would lo...

561
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:44,219
more than to be set straight on this and to
enter somebody to drill a hole down there ...

562
00:50:44,219 --> 00:50:48,880
and go oh my god yeah there's a giant eight
eighty meter across

563
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,980
seem to connect i don't know yes change like
there's the other we mentioned it briefly but

564
00:50:58,980 --> 00:51:03,460
the king's chamber structures inside the
pyramid i don't seem like they're connecte...

565
00:51:03,460 --> 00:51:08,579
like they're randomly scattered through it
and i'm like there's no yeah i just there'...

566
00:51:08,579 --> 00:51:13,960
that one oh that's the other problem in their
in their representation of the data all th...

567
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:19,019
chamber structures are actually in the
bedrock really because the bedrock is like...

568
00:51:23,399 --> 00:51:27,259
a really good point and it's like these these
king chambers with the relieving chambers ...

569
00:51:27,259 --> 00:51:31,319
the bedrock what do you need the relieving
chamber for yeah yeah well even the reliev...

570
00:51:31,319 --> 00:51:37,480
know that it's not a good idea god there's so
many layers deep relieving chambers are no...

571
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,619
anything yeah they're actually adding weight
to the structure they already ask what the

572
00:51:41,619 --> 00:51:46,719
chambers are for in the paper and blocks yes
the chevron blocks above the relieving

573
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,019
actually doing the relieving yeah you make an
excellent point and i think that's a good

574
00:51:55,340 --> 00:52:00,119
it's they literally carve as it's into that
slope so on the back side it's like they

575
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:03,500
bedrock they like the sphinx it's shaped from
bedrock and then they melded into it and then

576
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:08,139
presumably in the middle similar thing they
left a huge amount of bedrock to lock that

577
00:52:08,139 --> 00:52:12,639
and they're not distinguishing that on this
scan it's like they imagine it's like seem...

578
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:18,039
a flat base if i'm yeah exactly it's like a
flat base with all these king that's not w...

579
00:52:18,039 --> 00:52:18,699
pyramid is

580
00:52:25,899 --> 00:52:33,840
bedrock now maybe if because i don't think
that those sort of stacked chambers above ...

581
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:40,000
chamber are relieving chambers so even if you
built one say at the base of the step here

582
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:45,380
down in the step pyramid you could still
stack that on top of that multi-piece box

583
00:52:45,380 --> 00:52:48,980
maybe it had a function yeah it was like so
it's possible that they could be

584
00:52:55,079 --> 00:53:00,840
are like and so anything and they can those
voids they can pick up voids of that size ...

585
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:06,359
they were they were in the subterranean they
should have picked up those voids yeah at

586
00:53:06,359 --> 00:53:11,119
one or two of them we've got confirmation
that they did their job right at least in ...

587
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:15,639
yeah and they drilled a hole into it like
this and there it is we showed you just li...

588
00:53:20,019 --> 00:53:24,239
confirmation that they're right about the big
wood at this point like i'm right there's

589
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:29,319
suspicious ladders in the gallery ladders and
that yeah they've been up in top of the if

590
00:53:29,319 --> 00:53:32,759
probably went up into their relieving
chambers and did some yeah that would be t...

591
00:53:32,759 --> 00:53:36,699
to look if you can get up into that top one
yeah you just drill straight through yeah

592
00:53:36,699 --> 00:53:41,239
you would you would you would probably have
the surest path from a known area to get t...

593
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,480
and then i think they've already done it
those oh yeah i mean they closed that damn

594
00:53:53,159 --> 00:54:00,579
that it would have taken to angle all the
blocks around them because the the the

595
00:54:00,579 --> 00:54:06,380
those chevron blocks is also huge compared to
the other there's this whole other sort of

596
00:54:06,380 --> 00:54:10,779
internal structure you know it tilts down
around those things because they're all

597
00:54:10,779 --> 00:54:15,340
it's around the descending passage yes just
those

598
00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:25,779
it's a small spice but the actual structure
of it is huge it's it's enormous yeah it's

599
00:54:25,779 --> 00:54:31,899
so you would it would be i'm just saying like
we've seen this time and time again like

600
00:54:31,899 --> 00:54:36,880
small passages have huge i mean ganterbrink
found you know this in certain cases like

601
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,940
he was looking at the shafts how the joints
change as the shaft is going

602
00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:42,420
when he was looking at the shafts, how the
joints change as the shaft is going around

603
00:54:42,420 --> 00:54:46,760
the Grand Gallery or whatever, like they,
it's far away from that structure, but the

604
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:52,340
joints in the blocks stop being this regular,
and they start changing their angles and all

605
00:54:52,340 --> 00:54:55,860
this kind of stuff, because it's just nearby
the Grand Gallery.

606
00:54:55,860 --> 00:54:56,500
Yeah, yeah.

607
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:11,140
these huge voids underneath, that there would
be some kind of structural indicator far away

608
00:55:11,140 --> 00:55:13,039
from that thing, and then they would have to
be huge.

609
00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:16,060
Corbelled ceilings, or however they did it, I
don't know.

610
00:55:16,060 --> 00:55:19,400
Yeah, we were looking at it on that Pyramid
of Sin up there, looking at it today, and

611
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:25,120
you see that band of, the band of the
courses, they're very clear and consistent...

612
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,340
height courses, like a band of consistency.

613
00:55:32,420 --> 00:55:38,320
So it's just like they had to, they had to
keep that structure, and so on, the thing.

614
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:38,800
Yep.

615
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,180
And you can see it on the outside.

616
00:55:40,180 --> 00:55:45,820
And I think like, I think it's the 19th
course, you can see a real thick band goin...

617
00:55:45,820 --> 00:55:47,240
way around, and that's the entrance.

618
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:48,420
Yeah, that's the entrance.

619
00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:51,140
And you just sit from a distance, you can
just see it just.

620
00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:53,039
Yep.

621
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:54,420
It's so cool.

622
00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:56,120
I mean, it's like that feature.

623
00:56:00,019 --> 00:56:06,060
The feature of this tiny little frickin'
three-by-three hole entrance is expressed ...

624
00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:07,100
the exterior of the pyramid.

625
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:11,940
I love going in there, just imagining, yes, I
can imagine the whole King's funeral

626
00:56:11,940 --> 00:56:18,460
just regally proceeding through his
three-by-three, you know, like the nights ...

627
00:56:18,460 --> 00:56:23,120
and just, yeah, just all of the, all right,
what an apartment, ceremony and dignity that

628
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,280
you muster, we got stairs and rails and all
the modern conveniences.

629
00:56:29,180 --> 00:56:29,900
Yeah.

630
00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:37,940
I mean, make sure that the first musician
behind me is the flautist, not the drummer...

631
00:56:37,940 --> 00:56:39,960
The drummer in there.

632
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,780
Well, I mean, it is perfect.

633
00:56:43,780 --> 00:56:48,519
You just get the sarcophagus in and you just,
yeah, close the door.

634
00:56:48,519 --> 00:56:49,800
Yeah, done.

635
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,100
And bury with old dues.

636
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:56,820
It's all gone.

637
00:56:57,900 --> 00:56:58,700
Dude is buried.

638
00:56:58,700 --> 00:56:59,019
Yeah.

639
00:56:59,019 --> 00:57:03,480
Did you guys want to do segments?

640
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:04,380
Let's take a break.

641
00:57:04,380 --> 00:57:04,539
Yeah.

642
00:57:04,539 --> 00:57:07,160
And we'll come back with the next subject
matter.

643
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:07,640
Yeah.

644
00:58:01,980 --> 00:58:02,940
Yeah.

645
00:58:02,940 --> 00:58:05,039
What was it?

646
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:05,820
How long was that segment?

647
00:58:05,820 --> 00:58:07,060
Pretty long.

648
00:58:07,060 --> 00:58:08,220
It's probably now.

649
00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:08,900
All right.

650
00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:17,840
So we got vase news, but real quick, I also
want to mention that I did climb the well

651
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,200
I wanted to get up there.

652
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:21,620
Crazy.

653
00:58:21,620 --> 00:58:26,900
For the dang giant granite block that's
supposed to be in there.

654
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,700
And when you're in there, you can tell.

655
00:58:35,700 --> 00:58:37,260
I'm sorry, the grotto.

656
00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:37,560
Yeah.

657
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,220
The grotto has been slowly collapsing.

658
00:58:40,220 --> 00:58:45,160
So it's, in effect, it's this sort of bubble
in like an aggregate material.

659
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,060
And the ceiling keeps falling in.

660
00:58:48,060 --> 00:58:51,440
So the floor rises and the ceiling rises.

661
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:56,720
So the whole bubble is just slowly moving
upwards through this kind of.

662
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:06,160
It's like a sandy, powdery, red stuff mixed
in with a whole bunch of cobbles and gravel.

663
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,000
It looks artificial.

664
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,720
The material itself looks artificial.

665
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:17,920
Like a, like you could even imagine it being
some kind of a very ancient concrete that ...

666
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,640
You know, whatever had glued it together is
basically decomposing.

667
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,140
Yeah.

668
00:59:23,140 --> 00:59:26,180
So now it's very, like, very powdery.

669
00:59:26,180 --> 00:59:26,960
But in some places.

670
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,579
It's actually quite solid.

671
00:59:32,579 --> 00:59:36,000
But the stuff on the floor is just powdery.

672
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,820
Like you can run your hands into it.

673
00:59:37,820 --> 00:59:38,220
And it's.

674
00:59:38,220 --> 00:59:41,539
But while I was in there.

675
00:59:41,539 --> 00:59:45,079
Because the well shaft goes.

676
00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:49,340
Starts from the bottom of the descending
passage and goes all the way up through th...

677
00:59:49,340 --> 00:59:51,760
To the grotto part.

678
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,480
And the grotto is, according to the maps that
you can find.

679
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:55,579
The grotto is basically.

680
00:59:55,579 --> 00:59:57,100
An.

681
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:57,500
Opening.

682
00:59:57,500 --> 01:00:00,200
Right at the bedrock top.

683
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:00,800
Yeah.

684
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,920
Just below the bottom course of masonry.

685
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,340
The grotto is this opening in the bedrock.

686
01:00:06,340 --> 01:00:07,260
So it was.

687
01:00:07,260 --> 01:00:08,920
It seems like it may have been a natural.

688
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,480
A natural feature that they tried to fill in
with material.

689
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,880
But there are these two fissures.

690
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,640
That pass down through the bedrock.

691
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,820
And they actually go through the descending
passage.

692
01:00:20,820 --> 01:00:22,000
Yeah.

693
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,740
So as you're going down through the
descending passage.

694
01:00:23,740 --> 01:00:26,940
You pass this big wide crack in the bedrock.

695
01:00:28,300 --> 01:00:29,440
You pass another crack.

696
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:30,980
And then when you get to the entrance.

697
01:00:30,980 --> 01:00:33,380
To the well shaft.

698
01:00:33,380 --> 01:00:34,520
And you start climbing up it.

699
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,200
You pass through one crack that's almost
vertical.

700
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,280
And then another one.

701
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,320
And there were.

702
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,060
The bats were in the first one.

703
01:00:44,060 --> 01:00:45,000
Rolling up.

704
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:45,320
Yeah.

705
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,440
Like I actually looked in.

706
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:47,660
You could see cave formations.

707
01:00:47,660 --> 01:00:50,039
It's maybe only this wide.

708
01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:51,720
At least for the.

709
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,220
Where the well shaft passes through it.

710
01:00:53,220 --> 01:00:54,340
But there are like.

711
01:00:54,340 --> 01:00:56,260
Large stalactites.

712
01:00:56,260 --> 01:00:57,100
Because it's almost vertical.

713
01:00:58,039 --> 01:00:59,220
Going way down.

714
01:00:59,220 --> 01:01:00,520
And then connecting to the other side.

715
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,020
Because it's like slightly tilted.

716
01:01:02,020 --> 01:01:03,360
And you can see bats.

717
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,740
Hanging out in there.

718
01:01:04,740 --> 01:01:05,380
Way back there.

719
01:01:05,380 --> 01:01:06,860
Anyway.

720
01:01:06,860 --> 01:01:12,100
As when sitting in the grotto.

721
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:15,539
As people are going up and down the grand
gallery.

722
01:01:15,539 --> 01:01:17,500
Walking on this wooden.

723
01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:19,260
Pathway.

724
01:01:19,260 --> 01:01:21,680
And there's boom, boom, boom, boom down the
wood.

725
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:22,940
The whole grotto is going.

726
01:01:22,940 --> 01:01:25,720
Oh my god.

727
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,980
And it's really scary.

728
01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:30,980
But as soon as somebody starts walking down
the hole.

729
01:01:30,980 --> 01:01:33,460
It's like sitting inside of a gigantic bass
speaker.

730
01:01:33,460 --> 01:01:35,340
It's like boom, boom, boom, boom.

731
01:01:35,340 --> 01:01:37,560
This is probably why it's collapsing.

732
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,800
That's what I think.

733
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:39,400
Yeah.

734
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,680
Just the vibrations.

735
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:41,160
Yeah.

736
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,000
The traffic.

737
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:42,700
Traffic.

738
01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:43,200
Yeah.

739
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,539
And it's slowly.

740
01:01:44,539 --> 01:01:45,900
Anyway.

741
01:01:45,900 --> 01:01:46,380
I got some.

742
01:01:46,380 --> 01:01:47,380
I got some good video.

743
01:01:47,380 --> 01:01:52,660
Kyle and I will probably be publishing
something on it.

744
01:01:52,660 --> 01:01:53,740
Later after we get back.

745
01:01:53,740 --> 01:01:54,720
But yeah.

746
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,320
It's quite an adventure.

747
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:56,560
And.

748
01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:01,200
Dude.

749
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:01,880
I went down there.

750
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:02,120
Like.

751
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,960
You told me you were going up there.

752
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,620
And I had some other stuff to do.

753
01:02:06,620 --> 01:02:08,340
And eventually I was like.

754
01:02:08,340 --> 01:02:08,579
Okay.

755
01:02:08,579 --> 01:02:09,539
I got to go down.

756
01:02:09,539 --> 01:02:11,400
And I was thinking like.

757
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:12,460
He'll probably be up there.

758
01:02:12,460 --> 01:02:13,079
And then I can.

759
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:13,620
Yeah.

760
01:02:13,620 --> 01:02:14,440
I can just go up.

761
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,039
I get down there.

762
01:02:17,039 --> 01:02:18,240
And the.

763
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,180
Yeah.

764
01:02:19,180 --> 01:02:21,420
The way to get in.

765
01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:23,920
Like it used to be a lot more open.

766
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,539
And now it was like this little crack.

767
01:02:26,539 --> 01:02:27,100
Yeah.

768
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,240
And I had my bag on.

769
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:28,680
And I'm like.

770
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:29,520
I'm climbing through there.

771
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:29,880
And I'm like.

772
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,240
Yeah.

773
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,320
Got stuck.

774
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:32,640
Dude.

775
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:33,260
With the bag.

776
01:02:33,260 --> 01:02:34,840
So I had to move the bag out of the way.

777
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,500
And I finally get in there.

778
01:02:36,500 --> 01:02:37,079
And I look up.

779
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:37,740
And it was just.

780
01:02:37,740 --> 01:02:39,420
Cloud of dust.

781
01:02:39,420 --> 01:02:40,020
Yeah.

782
01:02:40,020 --> 01:02:40,960
And I'm like.

783
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:41,720
I can't do it.

784
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:42,039
Yeah.

785
01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:44,220
I wussed out.

786
01:02:44,220 --> 01:02:44,800
Yeah.

787
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:45,660
Once again.

788
01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:47,120
I'm just not fitting in that game.

789
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:48,360
Oh my gosh.

790
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:48,880
Yeah.

791
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:49,300
That was.

792
01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:50,980
That was actually terrifying.

793
01:02:50,980 --> 01:02:53,200
The scariest part was squeezing.

794
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,440
And I sat down there.

795
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,240
And people are going up and down.

796
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:56,539
And like.

797
01:02:56,539 --> 01:02:56,900
You know.

798
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:58,340
And then I'm like.

799
01:02:58,340 --> 01:03:01,000
And I pull.

800
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,160
Because it was like this much room.

801
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:04,620
And I'm like.

802
01:03:04,620 --> 01:03:05,000
I can't.

803
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:05,860
I can't fit through there.

804
01:03:05,860 --> 01:03:06,280
So I'm just.

805
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,360
I kept dragging.

806
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,340
Quietly.

807
01:03:08,340 --> 01:03:09,680
Trying to drag all this material down.

808
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,660
And then somebody would go by.

809
01:03:10,660 --> 01:03:10,920
And I'm like.

810
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:11,220
Hey bro.

811
01:03:11,220 --> 01:03:12,240
I'm just chilling.

812
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,000
And he.

813
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,079
Drag all this material.

814
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:18,320
And I finally got it to this much.

815
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,000
And then trying to worm through.

816
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:20,300
Yeah.

817
01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:20,780
And just like.

818
01:03:20,780 --> 01:03:21,300
Oh God.

819
01:03:21,300 --> 01:03:22,500
Oh God.

820
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:22,660
Yeah.

821
01:03:22,660 --> 01:03:24,500
I got through it.

822
01:03:24,500 --> 01:03:25,560
I looked up.

823
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:26,880
And saw the cloud of dust.

824
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,380
Nope.

825
01:03:28,380 --> 01:03:29,940
I'm going to be breathing that dust.

826
01:03:29,940 --> 01:03:30,200
Yeah.

827
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:30,720
No way.

828
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,120
And I.

829
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,000
Shimmied back out.

830
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,400
And then.

831
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:36,900
Right after I got out.

832
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:37,480
I hear.

833
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,440
Yeah.

834
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,740
And all these rocks start raining down in
there.

835
01:03:42,740 --> 01:03:43,240
And I was like.

836
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,140
Oh thank God.

837
01:03:44,140 --> 01:03:44,420
Yeah.

838
01:03:44,420 --> 01:03:44,980
Well.

839
01:03:44,980 --> 01:03:46,520
So if you would have started climbing.

840
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,380
As soon as I got out.

841
01:03:48,380 --> 01:03:49,420
I would have heard you.

842
01:03:49,420 --> 01:03:49,860
Or you could.

843
01:03:49,860 --> 01:03:50,220
I could have.

844
01:03:50,220 --> 01:03:50,980
You could have said something.

845
01:03:50,980 --> 01:03:51,220
Man.

846
01:03:51,220 --> 01:03:53,000
It's crazy how quiet it gets.

847
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:53,860
Because it's so.

848
01:03:53,860 --> 01:03:54,840
When you're.

849
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:55,400
You're up there.

850
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:56,280
You were still climbing.

851
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:56,760
I didn't know.

852
01:03:56,940 --> 01:03:57,600
Because I'm like.

853
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:58,280
Looking up.

854
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,620
Maybe you were taking a rest.

855
01:03:59,620 --> 01:04:02,380
I don't know what it was.

856
01:04:02,380 --> 01:04:03,560
But I couldn't hear anything.

857
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:04,060
Ah.

858
01:04:04,060 --> 01:04:05,180
And I was like.

859
01:04:05,180 --> 01:04:05,420
Nope.

860
01:04:05,420 --> 01:04:06,079
Too much dust.

861
01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:07,079
And I back out.

862
01:04:07,079 --> 01:04:09,060
And then I just hear raining materials.

863
01:04:09,060 --> 01:04:09,980
That's probably right.

864
01:04:09,980 --> 01:04:11,280
For the next few minutes.

865
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:11,579
No.

866
01:04:11,579 --> 01:04:11,760
No.

867
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:12,300
Because you were.

868
01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:13,980
Then I just sat there.

869
01:04:13,980 --> 01:04:14,400
And waited.

870
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:15,600
And it got super silent.

871
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:16,180
Ah.

872
01:04:16,180 --> 01:04:18,200
Nothing rained down for a long time.

873
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,980
And people were passing me.

874
01:04:19,980 --> 01:04:21,120
They didn't even know I was there.

875
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:21,500
Yeah.

876
01:04:21,500 --> 01:04:23,360
Like I just huddled in that little cavity.

877
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,060
And people are like going down.

878
01:04:25,060 --> 01:04:26,360
And I'm just like chilling.

879
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,240
Some people pass without even knowing.

880
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:29,960
Some people are like.

881
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:30,200
Hey.

882
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:30,740
And I'm just like.

883
01:04:30,740 --> 01:04:30,960
All right.

884
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:31,320
Go ahead.

885
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,160
And no one asked like.

886
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:33,920
What are you doing?

887
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:34,500
What is that?

888
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:34,860
Yeah.

889
01:04:34,860 --> 01:04:36,160
Because it was so.

890
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,000
It's so.

891
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,460
It's almost hidden.

892
01:04:38,460 --> 01:04:38,820
Yeah.

893
01:04:38,820 --> 01:04:39,280
Yeah.

894
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:39,539
Yeah.

895
01:04:39,539 --> 01:04:39,800
I don't know.

896
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,360
It just looks like a bunch of trash.

897
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:41,680
Yeah.

898
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:42,160
Yeah.

899
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,760
Unless you get let down and look at it.

900
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,020
But I wait.

901
01:04:45,020 --> 01:04:47,120
And this is the second time I've done this.

902
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,620
When you finally start coming down.

903
01:04:48,620 --> 01:04:49,240
I know.

904
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,539
Because I hear like.

905
01:04:50,539 --> 01:04:52,520
Yeah.

906
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,440
This stuff just starting to tingle down.

907
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,160
And then eventually it gets more and more.

908
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,860
I look in there, and it's just pitch black,

909
01:05:00,860 --> 01:05:02,900
and it keeps raining down stuff,

910
01:05:02,900 --> 01:05:04,200
and then it pauses for a minute,

911
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,940
and it rains down stuff, and it pauses.

912
01:05:05,940 --> 01:05:07,160
Can't hear anything.

913
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,280
And finally, like right around the time

914
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,760
when I can start seeing a little bit of a
flash or a glow,

915
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:14,760
I'll start to hear...

916
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:15,960
Yeah.

917
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,300
Like I start to hear your voice,

918
01:05:19,300 --> 01:05:22,960
but other than that, you can't hear it at
all.

919
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,600
Like it's not, it's so damp.

920
01:05:26,860 --> 01:05:27,900
That's true.

921
01:05:27,900 --> 01:05:30,260
And the whole time you're in there, it's very
quiet.

922
01:05:30,260 --> 01:05:33,820
And then, I don't know, the grotto itself is
just...

923
01:05:33,820 --> 01:05:39,120
No, it's like, it's forbidding.

924
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,800
Yeah, you said that.

925
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:46,240
Yeah, there are these filaments of salt
crystal,

926
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,980
whatever they are, hay light hanging,

927
01:05:47,980 --> 01:05:49,800
and then just your breath, and you're like...

928
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:54,800
You know, it reminds me of the Indiana Jones,

929
01:05:56,940 --> 01:05:58,860
Yeah, the Temple of Doom.

930
01:05:58,860 --> 01:06:01,300
No, no, no, it's the breath of God.

931
01:06:01,300 --> 01:06:03,340
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

932
01:06:03,340 --> 01:06:04,640
You know, the penitent man.

933
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:05,760
It's got the...

934
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:06,880
The penitent man kneels.

935
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:07,180
Kneels.

936
01:06:07,180 --> 01:06:10,060
Before, yeah, it's got the cobwebs in it.

937
01:06:10,060 --> 01:06:11,460
The cobwebs are like blowing at you.

938
01:06:11,460 --> 01:06:12,020
You better...

939
01:06:12,020 --> 01:06:12,860
Kneel!

940
01:06:12,860 --> 01:06:16,060
You get in the grotto, and you're like...

941
01:06:16,060 --> 01:06:18,060
And then all these things are...

942
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:22,400
And it's just, I don't know, just sitting in
there,

943
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,020
the longer I was in there,

944
01:06:24,020 --> 01:06:25,000
and maybe it's just because it's...

945
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,160
I'm like, the roof is falling in,

946
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:29,960
and I'm hearing this boom,

947
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,360
and the whole chamber's a...

948
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:32,400
Oh, my God.

949
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:32,960
Right?

950
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,160
But I was just like...

951
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,360
I was just like, looking at my...

952
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:36,900
Where's the spark?

953
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:39,539
Yeah, yeah, I have to get out of here.

954
01:06:39,539 --> 01:06:40,680
Yeah.

955
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,640
There was a spark in me.

956
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:43,180
So...

957
01:06:43,180 --> 01:06:43,860
My mind was like...

958
01:06:43,860 --> 01:06:46,220
Yeah, just like...

959
01:06:46,220 --> 01:06:49,820
Final of my dreams to...

960
01:06:49,820 --> 01:06:52,840
So the roof is falling down,

961
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,360
and the floor is rising up.

962
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:54,980
Yeah.

963
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,240
It's buried that block.

964
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:58,300
It's buried the block.

965
01:06:58,300 --> 01:06:59,180
Yeah, yeah.

966
01:06:59,180 --> 01:07:00,360
From everything we can tell,

967
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,020
it's usually going to be a meter down now.

968
01:07:02,020 --> 01:07:02,539
Yeah.

969
01:07:02,539 --> 01:07:04,380
It's got to be a meter down.

970
01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:07,480
So what about the entrance to the grotto?

971
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,700
Is it also filling up?

972
01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:09,280
It's filling in.

973
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,400
And so it's a slope,

974
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,900
because it's falling down?

975
01:07:11,900 --> 01:07:12,400
Yeah.

976
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:13,880
If you look at the old pictures,

977
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,579
the entrance to the grotto was, you know,

978
01:07:16,579 --> 01:07:17,820
three or four feet.

979
01:07:17,820 --> 01:07:19,260
There's a big hole.

980
01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:21,280
You can see, you know...

981
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,440
And then people were actually having to climb

982
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,220
to go around,

983
01:07:24,220 --> 01:07:24,880
because you could get...

984
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:27,780
Because the well shaft at that point is
masonry.

985
01:07:27,780 --> 01:07:30,960
It's a square of masonry going up through the
grotto.

986
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:31,440
Yeah.

987
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:31,720
Right?

988
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:32,400
A square.

989
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:33,340
A square.

990
01:07:33,340 --> 01:07:34,880
Just a square.

991
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,460
A square of masonry.

992
01:07:36,460 --> 01:07:37,539
So when you get into the grotto,

993
01:07:37,539 --> 01:07:39,860
you're actually looking at the outside of the
square,

994
01:07:39,860 --> 01:07:43,920
and the grotto itself goes around to here and
ends,

995
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,260
and around to here and ends,

996
01:07:46,260 --> 01:07:48,000
and then there's a big bubble going this way.

997
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:48,520
Yeah.

998
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:48,980
Right?

999
01:07:48,980 --> 01:07:50,920
And initially when I got in there,

1000
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,880
I'm digging over in the bubble looking for...

1001
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:53,840
And that's when I was like...

1002
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:54,640
I'm like, oh my God.

1003
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,020
And I look at the roof,

1004
01:07:56,020 --> 01:07:56,720
and I'm like...

1005
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:57,340
It's all...

1006
01:07:57,340 --> 01:07:58,500
I'm like, oh my God.

1007
01:07:58,500 --> 01:07:59,220
You know?

1008
01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:00,039
It's like...

1009
01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:03,220
This time I stayed out of that spot.

1010
01:08:03,220 --> 01:08:04,200
I didn't really...

1011
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,520
I crawled up a little bit,

1012
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,440
but I knew that the block is supposed to be

1013
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:08,440
right there by the entrance.

1014
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,220
But as soon as I got in,

1015
01:08:10,220 --> 01:08:11,340
and I'm, you know...

1016
01:08:11,340 --> 01:08:12,760
I got up there and looked at the entrance,

1017
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,180
and the opening starts down here with the
masonry,

1018
01:08:16,180 --> 01:08:19,079
but there's material all the way up to here,

1019
01:08:19,079 --> 01:08:20,539
and then the opening is this big.

1020
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:21,460
Oh, okay.

1021
01:08:21,460 --> 01:08:23,199
It's filling it up.

1022
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:24,300
Like three full feet.

1023
01:08:24,300 --> 01:08:30,960
So the rest of that material is falling down
the shaft, and that's probably what's clos...

1024
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:39,680
Okay, so when we went through the history of
discovery, and it was like Davidson and

1025
01:08:41,619 --> 01:08:49,260
We were asking ourselves, like, how did the
shaft get full at the bottom?

1026
01:08:49,260 --> 01:08:49,760
Yeah.

1027
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,300
Right?

1028
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:55,939
Because apparently Mamun would have been
digging a tunnel and throwing all the refu...

1029
01:08:55,939 --> 01:09:02,000
which would have just filled up the
descending passage and blocked the tunnel,

1030
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,000
So the material might have been from the
grotto going down.

1031
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,659
All of that, like even in their time, the
grotto is moving up.

1032
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:13,819
Yeah.

1033
01:09:13,819 --> 01:09:21,979
One of the suggestions was that, and maybe
this was in Chris Dunn's book, The Power

1034
01:09:21,979 --> 01:09:26,760
was that they had to remove the tiles in the
Grand Gallery, and every time they pulled ...

1035
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:32,880
they all slid down, and they were shoving the
fucking tile pieces into the top of the we...

1036
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,659
and it was just dropping down, right, which
is possible.

1037
01:09:35,659 --> 01:09:38,300
But.

1038
01:09:45,979 --> 01:09:51,119
like it's interesting because up at the top
where it connects to the Grand Gallery, it...

1039
01:09:51,119 --> 01:09:52,600
It's beautifully cut.

1040
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,779
It's very square.

1041
01:09:53,779 --> 01:09:59,340
It's like a, they call it the weld shaft, and
then there's a grotto that opens up in the

1042
01:09:59,340 --> 01:10:02,579
but it's a tunnel that leads all the way down
to the passageway.

1043
01:10:02,579 --> 01:10:08,039
You'll see when you go down the descending
passageway to the bottom, you'll see a

1044
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:16,979
Yeah?

1045
01:10:16,979 --> 01:10:17,880
It's pretty nuts.

1046
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:22,439
You can crawl in there down there and look up
it if you want.

1047
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:30,079
It goes in, and then it starts to go down,
and that's all masonry, but the actual par...

1048
01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:35,520
I mean, it's a rough sort of square, and in
some places it's barely wide enough for yo...

1049
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,800
You have to kind of get in there diagonally
and climb, you know.

1050
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:39,300
So it's a rough sort of square, and in some
places it's barely wide enough for your

1051
01:10:58,279 --> 01:11:03,539
And so they went and, like, were like, let's
dig up and check, right?

1052
01:11:03,539 --> 01:11:09,239
But what I don't understand is what the
purpose of the masonry part of the well sh...

1053
01:11:09,359 --> 01:11:09,479
But what I don't understand is what the
purpose of the masonry part of the well sh...

1054
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,899
It just went down into that bubble and
stopped, I think.

1055
01:11:12,899 --> 01:11:31,180
But then somebody decided to cut their way up
through to look at those fissures, and the

1056
01:11:31,180 --> 01:11:32,199
The pebbles, yeah.

1057
01:11:32,199 --> 01:11:33,260
So they filled it.

1058
01:11:33,260 --> 01:11:33,739
Yeah.

1059
01:11:33,739 --> 01:11:35,840
The electronic short-off.

1060
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,000
I think that that grotto is also a fill
material.

1061
01:11:39,460 --> 01:11:39,640
Yeah.

1062
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,680
Like, that's, like, that it was...

1063
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:42,699
This would be ground prep.

1064
01:11:42,699 --> 01:11:43,199
Yeah.

1065
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:47,979
It was already a void, and they filled it
with the pebbles and whatever, you know,

1066
01:11:47,979 --> 01:11:57,199
What I don't understand is why wouldn't the
builders have filled it in with stone from

1067
01:11:57,199 --> 01:11:59,739
It seems like an afterthought.

1068
01:11:59,739 --> 01:12:01,600
Like, you can't...

1069
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,279
No, you can no longer get big blocks in
there.

1070
01:12:03,279 --> 01:12:07,619
Like, dude, they have the huge tiles outside
filling in holes in the bedrock.

1071
01:12:07,619 --> 01:12:09,279
It seems like you'd be like, okay, there's
this big hole.

1072
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,579
Let's tile it in, fill it up.

1073
01:12:12,579 --> 01:12:15,840
It looks like this is something that had to
happen later.

1074
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,579
Or maybe they wanted a continuous passage out
that way.

1075
01:12:19,579 --> 01:12:20,420
Yeah.

1076
01:12:20,420 --> 01:12:26,579
Maybe they needed a masonry passage going
into some sort of void for some reason.

1077
01:12:26,579 --> 01:12:27,140
I don't know.

1078
01:12:27,140 --> 01:12:27,560
Yeah.

1079
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,979
And then later they started to worry that it
was...

1080
01:12:29,979 --> 01:12:38,579
If you go with the conventional idea that the
plug blocks in the ascending passageway we...

1081
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:42,779
Yeah.

1082
01:12:42,779 --> 01:12:44,399
A door only to be shut.

1083
01:12:44,399 --> 01:12:45,020
Right.

1084
01:12:45,020 --> 01:12:52,260
Then the only escape, once those doors were
shut, would be through this passage.

1085
01:12:52,260 --> 01:12:52,699
Yeah.

1086
01:12:52,699 --> 01:12:57,180
And I think that's a pretty legit, like, you
know, okay, you're going to close off thes...

1087
01:12:57,180 --> 01:13:00,619
You're like, the plug blocks are sitting in
the grand gallery.

1088
01:13:00,619 --> 01:13:07,439
And then the guys that had to finish the job
had to basically release the catches on th...

1089
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:08,119
And they had to get out.

1090
01:13:08,119 --> 01:13:08,779
Yeah.

1091
01:13:10,619 --> 01:13:11,760
And then they have to get out.

1092
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:12,279
That's what I'm saying.

1093
01:13:12,279 --> 01:13:13,739
So they go through the passage.

1094
01:13:13,739 --> 01:13:15,640
Then they go through the rough cut tunnel.

1095
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,819
And then at the bottom they seal up the wall.

1096
01:13:18,819 --> 01:13:25,960
But this whole idea of sealing up the wall is
kind of ridiculous because it's bedrock.

1097
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:26,260
Yeah.

1098
01:13:26,260 --> 01:13:31,300
Any looter would notice, like, oh, it's all
bedrock.

1099
01:13:31,300 --> 01:13:32,619
Oh, here's a block.

1100
01:13:32,619 --> 01:13:33,020
Yeah.

1101
01:13:33,020 --> 01:13:34,319
Just yank it out.

1102
01:13:34,319 --> 01:13:34,520
Yeah.

1103
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,800
So it seems like it would be even ludicrous
to even try to seal it.

1104
01:13:41,239 --> 01:13:41,500
Yeah.

1105
01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:44,840
The only way would be to plaster the entire
thing all the way down.

1106
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:45,859
Yeah.

1107
01:13:45,859 --> 01:13:46,640
They don't case it over.

1108
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:46,880
Yeah.

1109
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,399
So you put in some blocks and then you
plaster all of it.

1110
01:13:49,399 --> 01:13:50,159
Yeah.

1111
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:52,140
So the blocks are covered in plaster.

1112
01:13:52,140 --> 01:13:54,340
And then the plaster is falling away.

1113
01:13:54,340 --> 01:13:55,199
I don't know.

1114
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:56,699
That's a good point.

1115
01:13:56,699 --> 01:13:57,420
But it's just.

1116
01:13:57,420 --> 01:13:58,739
It's a mystery.

1117
01:13:58,739 --> 01:13:59,260
Yeah.

1118
01:13:59,260 --> 01:14:00,079
It sure is.

1119
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:01,659
Well, it's still not solved.

1120
01:14:01,659 --> 01:14:02,340
No.

1121
01:14:02,340 --> 01:14:06,420
And I've just been, you know, I've always
been fascinated with the idea that there's

1122
01:14:06,420 --> 01:14:08,880
Maybe through that hole in the shaft.

1123
01:14:09,420 --> 01:14:09,859
Yeah.

1124
01:14:09,859 --> 01:14:12,279
Of the subterranean chamber.

1125
01:14:12,279 --> 01:14:12,699
Yep.

1126
01:14:12,699 --> 01:14:13,460
I'm not sure.

1127
01:14:13,460 --> 01:14:14,260
I've not found.

1128
01:14:14,260 --> 01:14:15,239
Maybe someone out there knows.

1129
01:14:15,239 --> 01:14:16,479
Like if they've ever dug that in.

1130
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:17,319
Dug that all the way out.

1131
01:14:17,319 --> 01:14:17,579
Yeah.

1132
01:14:17,579 --> 01:14:18,899
It's full of stuff.

1133
01:14:18,899 --> 01:14:20,079
And the stuff and sediment.

1134
01:14:20,079 --> 01:14:21,939
And that's the thing.

1135
01:14:21,939 --> 01:14:23,420
It's long been rumored that there was another
way in.

1136
01:14:23,420 --> 01:14:26,359
How did a giant granite block get into the
grotto in the first place?

1137
01:14:26,359 --> 01:14:28,319
Well, so I know how that one did.

1138
01:14:28,319 --> 01:14:29,819
In the grotto.

1139
01:14:29,819 --> 01:14:33,779
So it was most likely part of whatever
mechanism was up at the.

1140
01:14:33,779 --> 01:14:34,279
In the.

1141
01:14:34,279 --> 01:14:34,739
In the.

1142
01:14:34,739 --> 01:14:35,260
Port color.

1143
01:14:35,260 --> 01:14:35,779
In the.

1144
01:14:35,779 --> 01:14:36,279
The antitank.

1145
01:14:36,279 --> 01:14:38,880
It just seems like the hardest possible place
to put it.

1146
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:44,380
So it was documented as being stuck in that
masonry passage in the well shaft.

1147
01:14:44,380 --> 01:14:46,119
For like decades.

1148
01:14:46,119 --> 01:14:47,800
It was a 600 pound block.

1149
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:48,600
So they kicked it.

1150
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:49,560
It might have been in the way.

1151
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:50,659
They shoved it in that hole.

1152
01:14:50,659 --> 01:14:53,600
And it was jammed in the upper part of that
passage for a long time.

1153
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,439
One of the reasons why I wanted to get to it.

1154
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:56,399
Because I wanted measurements.

1155
01:14:56,399 --> 01:14:57,300
Like would it.

1156
01:14:57,300 --> 01:14:59,699
Will it even fit through the entrance?

1157
01:14:59,699 --> 01:15:00,600
Yeah, it's a good question.

1158
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:01,159
But that's.

1159
01:15:01,159 --> 01:15:01,600
I mean it's.

1160
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:02,380
600 pound.

1161
01:15:02,380 --> 01:15:04,979
But it is documented as being stuck in there.

1162
01:15:04,979 --> 01:15:06,060
People talk about it.

1163
01:15:06,060 --> 01:15:06,640
And then the guy.

1164
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,880
I think there's a story that a dude who
eventually got it loose.

1165
01:15:09,619 --> 01:15:11,560
And then it fell down and it ended up in the
grotto.

1166
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:12,279
Yeah, but.

1167
01:15:12,279 --> 01:15:13,000
That's.

1168
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:13,819
That's the other problem.

1169
01:15:13,819 --> 01:15:14,420
How does it get in the grotto?

1170
01:15:14,420 --> 01:15:16,399
Nothing falls and ends up in the grotto.

1171
01:15:16,399 --> 01:15:17,600
You'd have to go sideways.

1172
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:18,319
Yeah.

1173
01:15:18,319 --> 01:15:19,060
Well, maybe.

1174
01:15:19,060 --> 01:15:19,579
This is what.

1175
01:15:19,579 --> 01:15:19,819
Maybe.

1176
01:15:19,819 --> 01:15:20,020
Yeah.

1177
01:15:20,020 --> 01:15:21,539
Because it's a vertical shaft.

1178
01:15:21,539 --> 01:15:21,880
Yeah.

1179
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,180
Maybe it was instead of kicking it loose.

1180
01:15:23,180 --> 01:15:24,079
It was like this web.

1181
01:15:24,079 --> 01:15:24,859
They had to just like.

1182
01:15:24,859 --> 01:15:25,479
Somehow.

1183
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,000
Unless the grotto.

1184
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:27,640
They kept catching it.

1185
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:28,699
And they shoved it in there.

1186
01:15:28,699 --> 01:15:28,899
Yeah.

1187
01:15:28,899 --> 01:15:31,760
Unless the well shaft was completely full of
debris.

1188
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:32,260
Yeah.

1189
01:15:32,260 --> 01:15:33,359
And a block fell.

1190
01:15:33,359 --> 01:15:35,039
And then they pushed it into the grotto.

1191
01:15:35,039 --> 01:15:35,319
Yeah.

1192
01:15:35,319 --> 01:15:36,479
As they were digging down.

1193
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:37,260
And they dug it out.

1194
01:15:39,020 --> 01:15:39,720
That makes more sense.

1195
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:40,439
Because it's like.

1196
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,840
You know.

1197
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,979
The well shaft gets small.

1198
01:15:44,979 --> 01:15:46,159
At some places.

1199
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:46,640
Right.

1200
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:47,619
So if you got a big block.

1201
01:15:47,619 --> 01:15:49,840
You probably could get it through that
opening into the grotto.

1202
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,300
But it isn't going to go all the way down
through the passage.

1203
01:15:52,300 --> 01:15:54,039
You know if you shove it down farther.

1204
01:15:54,039 --> 01:15:55,060
It's just going to get wedged in.

1205
01:15:55,060 --> 01:15:55,819
And then you're going to be screwed.

1206
01:15:55,819 --> 01:15:56,819
Yeah.

1207
01:15:56,819 --> 01:15:57,880
It's a broken piece apparently.

1208
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:58,960
It has two drills on it.

1209
01:15:58,960 --> 01:15:59,479
It's probably some.

1210
01:15:59,479 --> 01:15:59,880
Again.

1211
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:00,739
Some mechanism.

1212
01:16:00,739 --> 01:16:00,979
Yeah.

1213
01:16:00,979 --> 01:16:01,479
It's a chamber.

1214
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:02,880
And it could be dug out.

1215
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:03,300
But it's just.

1216
01:16:03,300 --> 01:16:04,619
Yeah.

1217
01:16:04,619 --> 01:16:05,840
It's dangerous in there dude.

1218
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:06,979
Yeah.

1219
01:16:06,979 --> 01:16:07,220
I think.

1220
01:16:07,220 --> 01:16:07,640
We don't want to.

1221
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:07,760
I mean.

1222
01:16:08,939 --> 01:16:11,899
We just go with the documented history of it.

1223
01:16:11,899 --> 01:16:12,140
I mean.

1224
01:16:12,140 --> 01:16:13,500
If that blocks the interesting part.

1225
01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:14,279
I think in the grotto.

1226
01:16:14,279 --> 01:16:14,920
At least for me.

1227
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,260
Well there is something else I found in
there.

1228
01:16:17,260 --> 01:16:18,600
That is weird.

1229
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:19,199
Well yes.

1230
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:19,640
Yeah.

1231
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:19,920
Yeah.

1232
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:20,880
Maybe we save it for you or.

1233
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:21,279
Yeah.

1234
01:16:21,279 --> 01:16:21,520
Yeah.

1235
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:22,560
There was a very.

1236
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,039
There was some discovery that.

1237
01:16:24,039 --> 01:16:24,420
Yes.

1238
01:16:24,420 --> 01:16:25,279
There was some discovery that was made in
there.

1239
01:16:25,279 --> 01:16:25,659
It's like.

1240
01:16:25,659 --> 01:16:26,420
Yeah.

1241
01:16:26,420 --> 01:16:27,100
What is this?

1242
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:27,460
This is.

1243
01:16:27,460 --> 01:16:27,800
Yeah.

1244
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,560
May have been revealed by the collapsing.

1245
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:30,619
Yeah.

1246
01:16:30,619 --> 01:16:31,020
Exactly.

1247
01:16:31,020 --> 01:16:31,359
Yeah.

1248
01:16:31,359 --> 01:16:31,739
Yeah.

1249
01:16:31,739 --> 01:16:32,539
Yeah.

1250
01:16:32,539 --> 01:16:33,119
What?

1251
01:16:33,119 --> 01:16:35,420
You don't know?

1252
01:16:38,220 --> 01:16:39,979
Tune in next time.

1253
01:16:39,979 --> 01:16:40,479
Next time.

1254
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:41,100
Are we fine with that?

1255
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:45,399
Okay.

1256
01:16:45,399 --> 01:16:46,039
All right.

1257
01:16:46,039 --> 01:16:46,539
Yes.

1258
01:16:46,539 --> 01:16:46,880
So.

1259
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:47,720
Vases.

1260
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:48,319
Yeah.

1261
01:16:48,319 --> 01:16:48,500
Let me.

1262
01:16:48,500 --> 01:16:49,239
Cliffhanger.

1263
01:16:49,239 --> 01:16:50,979
Yeah.

1264
01:16:50,979 --> 01:16:54,680
So there's been some other things that
actually happened.

1265
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,279
While we were here as a matter of fact.

1266
01:16:57,279 --> 01:16:59,239
And something else that happened.

1267
01:16:59,239 --> 01:16:59,520
I mean.

1268
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:00,880
Ten years ago at this point.

1269
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:01,859
That I thought was really interesting.

1270
01:17:01,859 --> 01:17:02,220
I got.

1271
01:17:02,220 --> 01:17:04,479
I was made aware of.

1272
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:05,140
Is that.

1273
01:17:05,140 --> 01:17:07,479
I just thought this was an extremely cool
find.

1274
01:17:09,059 --> 01:17:10,100
There.

1275
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:10,440
You know.

1276
01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:11,020
We talk about.

1277
01:17:11,020 --> 01:17:12,880
I talk endlessly about the.

1278
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,220
The hard stone vases from.

1279
01:17:14,220 --> 01:17:14,979
You know.

1280
01:17:14,979 --> 01:17:15,559
Ancient Egypt.

1281
01:17:15,559 --> 01:17:17,020
That are found typically in Egypt.

1282
01:17:17,020 --> 01:17:18,619
And although there are other precision
artifacts.

1283
01:17:18,619 --> 01:17:20,460
In places like Turkey.

1284
01:17:20,460 --> 01:17:20,920
And.

1285
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:21,739
You know.

1286
01:17:21,739 --> 01:17:22,940
Some that sort of show up in Greece.

1287
01:17:22,940 --> 01:17:23,460
And here and there.

1288
01:17:23,460 --> 01:17:23,659
But.

1289
01:17:23,659 --> 01:17:25,500
I did not know this.

1290
01:17:25,500 --> 01:17:26,859
But they have also been found.

1291
01:17:26,859 --> 01:17:27,640
In Syria.

1292
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:28,020
Which.

1293
01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:28,739
Admittedly.

1294
01:17:28,739 --> 01:17:29,920
Is not that far away.

1295
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:30,680
From Egypt.

1296
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:31,220
Given it.

1297
01:17:31,220 --> 01:17:31,500
You know.

1298
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:32,079
Borders it.

1299
01:17:32,079 --> 01:17:33,059
But they.

1300
01:17:33,059 --> 01:17:33,699
These things.

1301
01:17:33,699 --> 01:17:35,840
There have been hard stone vases found.

1302
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:36,920
In.

1303
01:17:37,539 --> 01:17:38,819
Like a thirty five hundred.

1304
01:17:38,819 --> 01:17:40,500
Thirty six hundred year old tomb.

1305
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:41,059
Yeah.

1306
01:17:41,059 --> 01:17:41,619
In Syria.

1307
01:17:41,619 --> 01:17:42,699
Yeah.

1308
01:17:42,699 --> 01:17:43,100
So.

1309
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:43,920
Published.

1310
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,579
February twenty ten.

1311
01:17:45,579 --> 01:17:46,399
Yeah.

1312
01:17:46,399 --> 01:17:48,000
Only fifty years later.

1313
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:48,220
Yeah.

1314
01:17:48,220 --> 01:17:48,859
Yeah.

1315
01:17:48,859 --> 01:17:49,979
Breaking news folks.

1316
01:17:49,979 --> 01:17:51,559
This year.

1317
01:17:51,559 --> 01:17:52,059
Fifteen years.

1318
01:17:52,059 --> 01:17:54,420
An unplundered tomb cellar was found.

1319
01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:55,920
Under the northwest wing.

1320
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,039
Of the royal palace.

1321
01:17:57,039 --> 01:17:58,000
In.

1322
01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:58,899
Katna.

1323
01:17:58,899 --> 01:17:59,600
In Syria.

1324
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,000
Katna.

1325
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,399
With hundreds of artifacts.

1326
01:18:03,399 --> 01:18:04,460
As well as human bones.

1327
01:18:04,460 --> 01:18:06,760
From sixteen hundred to fourteen hundred B.Z.

1328
01:18:08,319 --> 01:18:09,199
Suggesting at least.

1329
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:10,059
That.

1330
01:18:10,059 --> 01:18:11,300
Many individuals.

1331
01:18:11,300 --> 01:18:11,899
Replaced their.

1332
01:18:11,899 --> 01:18:12,680
Likely members.

1333
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:13,559
Of the royal family.

1334
01:18:13,559 --> 01:18:14,079
Or household.

1335
01:18:14,079 --> 01:18:15,500
The bones were not.

1336
01:18:15,500 --> 01:18:16,579
In anatomical position.

1337
01:18:16,579 --> 01:18:17,600
But stacked in groups.

1338
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:18,659
Indicating that these were.

1339
01:18:18,659 --> 01:18:19,619
Secondary burials.

1340
01:18:19,619 --> 01:18:20,520
Perhaps even of.

1341
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:21,300
Earlier royal.

1342
01:18:21,300 --> 01:18:22,819
Royals buried elsewhere.

1343
01:18:22,819 --> 01:18:24,180
And later moved.

1344
01:18:24,180 --> 01:18:25,059
To the tomb cellar.

1345
01:18:25,059 --> 01:18:26,800
There were numerous pottery.

1346
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:27,500
And.

1347
01:18:27,500 --> 01:18:28,619
Stone vessels.

1348
01:18:28,619 --> 01:18:30,000
The stone ones.

1349
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:30,680
Are very interesting.

1350
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,000
Some are of granite.

1351
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:32,840
And come from Egypt.

1352
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:33,340
But.

1353
01:18:33,340 --> 01:18:35,059
They are from the old kingdom.

1354
01:18:35,059 --> 01:18:36,079
A thousand years.

1355
01:18:36,079 --> 01:18:36,680
Before these.

1356
01:18:37,059 --> 01:18:39,100
So what's the explanation for that?

1357
01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:40,539
One of the alabaster vessels.

1358
01:18:40,539 --> 01:18:41,600
Possibly from Egypt.

1359
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,279
Held a cache of gold jewelry.

1360
01:18:43,279 --> 01:18:44,779
And in other parts of the tomb.

1361
01:18:44,779 --> 01:18:45,800
Were gold foils.

1362
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:46,699
Textile.

1363
01:18:46,699 --> 01:18:47,619
Or furniture decorations.

1364
01:18:47,619 --> 01:18:48,159
Possibly.

1365
01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:49,579
A bronze spearhead.

1366
01:18:49,579 --> 01:18:50,559
A dress pin.

1367
01:18:50,559 --> 01:18:51,359
Gold dress pin.

1368
01:18:51,359 --> 01:18:52,079
And a lapis.

1369
01:18:52,079 --> 01:18:53,079
Cylinder seal.

1370
01:18:53,079 --> 01:18:54,140
And a seal in the shape.

1371
01:18:54,140 --> 01:18:54,779
Of a scarab.

1372
01:18:54,779 --> 01:18:55,600
Which is also.

1373
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:56,220
Very Egyptian.

1374
01:18:56,220 --> 01:18:57,659
And an ivory.

1375
01:18:57,659 --> 01:18:58,739
Human statuette.

1376
01:18:58,739 --> 01:18:59,800
And what.

1377
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:00,479
Artifact.

1378
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:01,340
Could be more inspiring.

1379
01:19:01,340 --> 01:19:01,960
Than the sculpture.

1380
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:02,539
Of a monkey.

1381
01:19:02,539 --> 01:19:03,819
Holding a cosmetic jar.

1382
01:19:03,819 --> 01:19:04,619
So yeah.

1383
01:19:04,619 --> 01:19:05,819
That's smart.

1384
01:19:08,619 --> 01:19:09,420
It's very inspiring.

1385
01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:09,859
Very inspiring.

1386
01:19:09,859 --> 01:19:10,059
Yeah.

1387
01:19:10,059 --> 01:19:11,819
What could be more?

1388
01:19:11,819 --> 01:19:12,659
The vases.

1389
01:19:12,659 --> 01:19:13,079
Yeah.

1390
01:19:13,079 --> 01:19:15,140
So maybe you'll put up some pictures.

1391
01:19:15,140 --> 01:19:16,140
But you can see.

1392
01:19:16,140 --> 01:19:17,180
In the photos.

1393
01:19:17,180 --> 01:19:18,239
That the vases are.

1394
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:18,559
Like.

1395
01:19:18,559 --> 01:19:18,819
I mean.

1396
01:19:18,819 --> 01:19:19,779
They are classic.

1397
01:19:19,779 --> 01:19:20,319
Hundred percent.

1398
01:19:20,319 --> 01:19:21,559
Egyptian.

1399
01:19:21,559 --> 01:19:22,119
Yeah.

1400
01:19:22,119 --> 01:19:22,539
You know.

1401
01:19:22,539 --> 01:19:23,420
What we associate with.

1402
01:19:23,420 --> 01:19:24,100
Old kingdom.

1403
01:19:24,100 --> 01:19:24,819
Egyptian.

1404
01:19:24,819 --> 01:19:25,739
Stone vessel.

1405
01:19:25,739 --> 01:19:26,579
Predynastic.

1406
01:19:26,579 --> 01:19:26,859
That's the thing.

1407
01:19:26,859 --> 01:19:27,260
That's right.

1408
01:19:27,260 --> 01:19:27,659
They just.

1409
01:19:27,659 --> 01:19:29,440
They classify them based on form.

1410
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:30,680
And this is the standard approach.

1411
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:31,380
To anything that.

1412
01:19:31,380 --> 01:19:32,420
That pops up looking like that.

1413
01:19:32,420 --> 01:19:32,640
Well.

1414
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:33,119
It's old king.

1415
01:19:33,119 --> 01:19:34,859
No one knows.

1416
01:19:34,859 --> 01:19:35,800
Predynastic.

1417
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:36,159
Old king.

1418
01:19:37,859 --> 01:19:38,380
To be honest.

1419
01:19:38,380 --> 01:19:39,300
There's alabaster.

1420
01:19:39,300 --> 01:19:39,859
There's vases.

1421
01:19:39,859 --> 01:19:40,479
There's dishes.

1422
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,039
I will put the pictures in here.

1423
01:19:42,039 --> 01:19:44,699
They do look to have some of the
characteristics.

1424
01:19:44,699 --> 01:19:45,619
Of the precise ones.

1425
01:19:45,619 --> 01:19:45,920
Certainly.

1426
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:46,159
Yeah.

1427
01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:47,520
Made from the diorites.

1428
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:48,260
And the big.

1429
01:19:48,260 --> 01:19:49,399
The stones.

1430
01:19:49,399 --> 01:19:50,539
With the really big.

1431
01:19:50,539 --> 01:19:52,119
Inclusions in them.

1432
01:19:52,119 --> 01:19:53,300
And.

1433
01:19:53,300 --> 01:19:53,840
Look.

1434
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:54,659
I just think it's.

1435
01:19:54,659 --> 01:19:55,920
Good evidence that.

1436
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,559
These things were valuable.

1437
01:19:57,559 --> 01:19:58,779
They were being traded.

1438
01:19:58,779 --> 01:20:00,140
You know.

1439
01:20:00,140 --> 01:20:00,699
They were.

1440
01:20:00,699 --> 01:20:02,279
Objects that.

1441
01:20:02,279 --> 01:20:04,440
Made their way around.

1442
01:20:04,440 --> 01:20:04,779
I mean.

1443
01:20:04,779 --> 01:20:05,119
You know.

1444
01:20:05,119 --> 01:20:05,920
That's who knows.

1445
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,059
Where they originally found was.

1446
01:20:08,059 --> 01:20:09,960
Who got their hands on them.

1447
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:10,479
But it's.

1448
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:10,800
You know.

1449
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:11,840
And who says these people.

1450
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:12,779
Even got them from Egypt.

1451
01:20:12,779 --> 01:20:13,440
Yeah.

1452
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:14,579
They may have found their own.

1453
01:20:14,579 --> 01:20:15,579
Cache of them.

1454
01:20:15,579 --> 01:20:16,279
Indeed.

1455
01:20:16,279 --> 01:20:16,640
Yeah.

1456
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:17,020
Yeah.

1457
01:20:17,020 --> 01:20:17,359
It's just.

1458
01:20:17,359 --> 01:20:18,440
Don't say that to you sir.

1459
01:20:18,440 --> 01:20:18,640
Phil.

1460
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:18,899
My.

1461
01:20:18,899 --> 01:20:19,220
I.

1462
01:20:19,220 --> 01:20:19,440
Well.

1463
01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:20,819
Yeah.

1464
01:20:20,819 --> 01:20:22,420
They were in Egypt.

1465
01:20:22,420 --> 01:20:23,720
But.

1466
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:24,600
Yeah.

1467
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:24,979
It's just.

1468
01:20:24,979 --> 01:20:25,359
I just.

1469
01:20:25,359 --> 01:20:26,359
So it's fascinating.

1470
01:20:26,359 --> 01:20:27,800
I think it's a good example.

1471
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:27,979
I mean.

1472
01:20:27,979 --> 01:20:29,020
Clearly inherited.

1473
01:20:29,020 --> 01:20:29,920
Is the other option.

1474
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:30,260
Yeah.

1475
01:20:30,260 --> 01:20:30,760
Clearly.

1476
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:31,819
I mean.

1477
01:20:31,819 --> 01:20:32,960
I even call them old kingdom.

1478
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,260
That a thousand years inherited.

1479
01:20:34,260 --> 01:20:34,920
At this point.

1480
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:35,239
Yeah.

1481
01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:36,859
Oh yeah.

1482
01:20:36,859 --> 01:20:37,440
These are from.

1483
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:39,300
Buried with someone.

1484
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:40,720
So they're not saying that these people
might.

1485
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:41,300
Right.

1486
01:20:41,300 --> 01:20:42,899
Which is the default position.

1487
01:20:42,899 --> 01:20:44,659
For every other vase.

1488
01:20:44,659 --> 01:20:45,460
That's pretty much found.

1489
01:20:45,460 --> 01:20:45,659
Yeah.

1490
01:20:45,659 --> 01:20:45,880
It was.

1491
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,940
Unless when you have the.

1492
01:20:47,940 --> 01:20:48,380
You know.

1493
01:20:48,380 --> 01:20:49,300
Scratched hard list.

1494
01:20:49,300 --> 01:20:49,539
That.

1495
01:20:49,539 --> 01:20:50,960
Educated somewhere else.

1496
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:51,239
And then.

1497
01:20:51,239 --> 01:20:51,539
Oh.

1498
01:20:51,539 --> 01:20:52,720
Then maybe they're inherited.

1499
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:53,920
Maybe.

1500
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:54,859
This is a possibility.

1501
01:20:54,859 --> 01:20:57,039
I just think it's like.

1502
01:20:57,039 --> 01:20:57,340
Yeah.

1503
01:20:57,340 --> 01:20:58,520
It's a possibility.

1504
01:20:58,520 --> 01:20:58,960
It's like.

1505
01:20:58,960 --> 01:20:59,479
You know.

1506
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:00,739
The joke I keep making.

1507
01:21:00,739 --> 01:21:01,000
It's like.

1508
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:01,920
If Matt Bell dies.

1509
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:02,760
Oh yeah.

1510
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:03,239
Touch wood.

1511
01:21:03,239 --> 01:21:04,340
He lives forever.

1512
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:06,800
He might.

1513
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,319
But.

1514
01:21:08,319 --> 01:21:09,920
But yeah.

1515
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:10,119
I mean.

1516
01:21:10,119 --> 01:21:10,359
If he.

1517
01:21:10,359 --> 01:21:10,940
If he goes.

1518
01:21:10,940 --> 01:21:11,159
And he's.

1519
01:21:11,159 --> 01:21:12,119
I'm going to be buried with my.

1520
01:21:12,119 --> 01:21:12,420
Yeah.

1521
01:21:12,420 --> 01:21:12,739
I know.

1522
01:21:12,739 --> 01:21:13,279
My.

1523
01:21:13,279 --> 01:21:13,699
My.

1524
01:21:13,699 --> 01:21:14,539
Bunch of vases.

1525
01:21:14,539 --> 01:21:15,739
And our civilization ends.

1526
01:21:15,739 --> 01:21:16,899
In three thousand years in the future.

1527
01:21:16,899 --> 01:21:17,559
We told him.

1528
01:21:17,559 --> 01:21:18,800
He needs to build a giant triangle.

1529
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:19,279
He does.

1530
01:21:19,279 --> 01:21:20,539
Get himself a huge stone box.

1531
01:21:20,539 --> 01:21:20,819
Yeah.

1532
01:21:20,819 --> 01:21:22,279
And bury himself with all his vases.

1533
01:21:22,279 --> 01:21:24,000
Because the archaeologists in the future will
think.

1534
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,539
He made some really nice vases.

1535
01:21:25,539 --> 01:21:26,000
That's right.

1536
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,159
Maybe they'll figure out.

1537
01:21:27,159 --> 01:21:28,760
They've got all of these different
properties.

1538
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:29,000
I'm like.

1539
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:29,960
This was a smart move.

1540
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:31,159
He should even.

1541
01:21:31,159 --> 01:21:31,720
One thing to think.

1542
01:21:35,059 --> 01:21:36,119
And they.

1543
01:21:36,119 --> 01:21:38,559
He can make some confusing drawings.

1544
01:21:38,559 --> 01:21:40,039
Of somebody doing the 3D printing.

1545
01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:40,699
They'll be like.

1546
01:21:40,699 --> 01:21:40,940
Well.

1547
01:21:40,940 --> 01:21:41,220
Okay.

1548
01:21:41,220 --> 01:21:41,840
So they clear.

1549
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,720
They seem to have made these vases in this
weird.

1550
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:44,619
Form.

1551
01:21:44,619 --> 01:21:44,920
Yes.

1552
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:45,760
He was imitating them.

1553
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,279
Because these other ones were really
expensive.

1554
01:21:47,279 --> 01:21:49,239
Maybe he didn't have all the money.

1555
01:21:49,239 --> 01:21:53,699
So one of the pieces of evidence.

1556
01:21:53,699 --> 01:21:55,059
That I think is important.

1557
01:21:55,059 --> 01:21:56,180
When it comes to these.

1558
01:21:56,180 --> 01:21:57,399
Vases being.

1559
01:21:57,399 --> 01:21:59,100
More ancient than.

1560
01:21:59,100 --> 01:22:00,300
The standard model.

1561
01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:04,380
vases being more ancient than the standard
model uh or at least in terms of the step

1562
01:22:04,380 --> 01:22:14,739
joser is that ball yeah granite blank yeah so
i mean in like i could be wrong about this

1563
01:22:14,739 --> 01:22:19,760
doesn't it doesn't have any i mean have you
thought of any other purpose for this thing

1564
01:22:25,220 --> 01:22:33,039
it's this big it's very heavy like a i mean
it's just like how you have to get it down

1565
01:22:33,039 --> 01:22:41,579
five levels down into this into this
underground labyrinth of tunnels it's hard

1566
01:22:41,579 --> 01:22:47,039
there yeah and then they had it they had it
surrounded in a net and it just

1567
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:06,659
you're when you're looking for arrowheads or
any like you know stone tool lithic types

1568
01:23:06,659 --> 01:23:17,500
looking for work blanks and the raw materials
yeah so you find you'll find like say at a

1569
01:23:17,500 --> 01:23:18,880
where they were gathering the raw materials
and they were gathering the raw materials ...

1570
01:23:28,300 --> 01:23:34,099
off of the cortex right so it's got they're
looking to see the quality of the flint and

1571
01:23:34,099 --> 01:23:39,599
there's like crappy inclusions and all this
stuff the piece is still there and there w...

1572
01:23:39,599 --> 01:23:46,300
lot of them where they're just breaking a few
chips off to see and then you'll have a blank

1573
01:23:46,300 --> 01:23:48,439
and a blank is something that you

1574
01:23:53,779 --> 01:24:00,599
where they had actually taken a piece from
the quarry they had chipped off all the ou...

1575
01:24:00,599 --> 01:24:07,279
and they had basically a rough shape of
something that could be made into a knife ...

1576
01:24:07,279 --> 01:24:11,880
into a projectile point it could be made into
whatever it could be thinned down they're

1577
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:17,779
kind of thick and bulky but they've gotten
rid of all the excess material that they

1578
01:24:17,779 --> 01:24:18,000
it's a quick it's a quick way to get rid of
all the excess material that they don't ne...

1579
01:24:23,340 --> 01:24:28,960
it to the campsite and at the campsite they
would like hone it down to like these fine

1580
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:38,659
a collector will collect the fine pieces and
also the tools and the pieces all through

1581
01:24:38,659 --> 01:24:46,800
so you'll have like a cortex like this big
chunk of flint with like a few nice pieces

1582
01:24:52,119 --> 01:24:59,039
the actual worked pieces but if you're the
manufacturer right you don't take the blank

1583
01:24:59,039 --> 01:25:05,859
down into your tomb or into your like sacred
space you take the ceremonial arrowhead

1584
01:25:05,859 --> 01:25:10,500
with all the notches and all the crazy stuff
and you know the most beautifully

1585
01:25:10,500 --> 01:25:16,479
and you put that in the burial yeah you don't
bury them with the with the blanks or the

1586
01:25:22,519 --> 01:25:30,679
there that's roughly the size of like you
know it's within the size of these like

1587
01:25:30,679 --> 01:25:41,519
bowl vases yeah bowl type uh pot yeah type
vase vases yeah yeah and and you can imagi...

1588
01:25:41,519 --> 01:25:46,779
it's got a flat side a little bit like this
sort of flattened end where it kind of has...

1589
01:25:52,380 --> 01:26:00,039
manufacturer's site yeah what is it doing
down here in where the where the burials w...

1590
01:26:00,039 --> 01:26:05,619
to be with all of the finished pieces yeah
and it suggests to me that they were

1591
01:26:05,619 --> 01:26:11,899
was a collection right because collectors
collect every artifact yes this was before

1592
01:26:11,899 --> 01:26:16,760
they made it into a vase it's special bring
it put it down into the sacred site yeah and

1593
01:26:24,119 --> 01:26:29,619
and some of which uh they call mace heads i
i've looked at some a lot of these mace he...

1594
01:26:29,619 --> 01:26:36,500
just like dude this yeah this almost looks
like a pre-formed vase it's already been

1595
01:26:36,500 --> 01:26:42,899
a bit on the outside and it's been cored out
but it hasn't yeah i'm sure there were maces

1596
01:26:42,899 --> 01:26:46,639
yeah sure there's right but there

1597
01:26:53,719 --> 01:26:58,539
production and that said we know they were
also making them by hand like there is a

1598
01:26:58,539 --> 01:27:02,699
them that is yes precise first so maybe they
were fitting but i don't know what that th...

1599
01:27:02,699 --> 01:27:08,180
doing down there because they weren't at that
point in the third dynasty i'm really not ...

1600
01:27:08,180 --> 01:27:14,619
they were probably attempting to recreate
stuff in hardstone as well as the alabaste...

1601
01:27:19,279 --> 01:27:23,680
what they were doing that's what i'm saying
like they it's a they had already revered

1602
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:29,639
from their ancestors yeah he went out and
robbed everybody's tomb yeah joseph's like...

1603
01:27:29,639 --> 01:27:34,840
like he was like i'm the king go get them all
i know exactly i know the feeling i mean i...

1604
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:41,680
like yeah dump truck where are the middens
yeah let's let's yeah bring the lanes yeah...

1605
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,139
competition we're out in the desert you say

1606
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:56,180
piece and uh rough one of the stuff i was
never i'm dang it if you did i found your

1607
01:27:56,180 --> 01:28:00,779
you found fair enough yeah you're the midden
hunter we i never should have dropped the

1608
01:28:00,779 --> 01:28:08,479
damn it he was like who wants the midden it
was guaranteed well hold on now well okay

1609
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:12,219
looking at midden that i was already looking
at it too and he was like this looks like

1610
01:28:20,779 --> 01:28:25,479
already i could roll it you called it you you
called it but we're standing under that sh...

1611
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:30,079
you could see that the different you know
that it's just the nature of the the groun...

1612
01:28:30,079 --> 01:28:34,039
the rocks that are sort of the same shape or
whatever and it was like all it we got

1613
01:28:34,039 --> 01:28:42,219
within i mean within yeah we started looking
down i look down i go down boom flint flak...

1614
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,939
where the guys like the tour people that have
lunch they camp and i'm like yeah i know yeah

1615
01:28:54,939 --> 01:28:58,739
because it's a great place to camp it's a
great place to camp right it's been a grea...

1616
01:28:58,739 --> 01:29:04,119
camp yes for a long time we find that i find
the first piece i found the first piece wi...

1617
01:29:04,119 --> 01:29:11,079
worked edge and i give it to yusuf and he's
like you're right oh my god and please sta...

1618
01:29:11,079 --> 01:29:14,599
it's on bro we were just everybody's digging
through and then russ just

1619
01:29:16,019 --> 01:29:21,979
just busts out this beautiful piece it's like

1620
01:29:21,979 --> 01:29:29,019
i just lost 20 bucks you win he's kind of
like

1621
01:29:29,019 --> 01:29:34,479
i mean i'll find a piece i think this looks
working i guess probably work

1622
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:41,859
well we actually it was great fun yeah and we
we should talk about dav but we

1623
01:29:41,859 --> 01:29:44,260
i want to say this one other thing okay

1624
01:29:53,579 --> 01:29:58,039
i mean it's just transparent quartz boom and
he's like look at this

1625
01:29:58,039 --> 01:30:03,800
and immediately i see the one side the whole
side is worked and it's rounded

1626
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:09,500
and then later when he looked at it in detail
there's actually an edge that's

1627
01:30:09,500 --> 01:30:14,460
like i mean it's a blade it's like a blade
edge just beautifully couldn't see it out

1628
01:30:18,659 --> 01:30:22,260
the dark gods were like get out of here yeah
leave we said we were like no this is midden

1629
01:30:22,260 --> 01:30:29,479
that you can whip by saying yeah in the right
you try to try to bend down and start look...

1630
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:34,539
you can't look at it with you can't find
areas with some shades on yeah you have to

1631
01:30:34,539 --> 01:30:40,639
shades off at the ground i had that feeling
though it was just perfect it was like the

1632
01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:43,899
geological feature that draws you to the area
is this massive

1633
01:30:52,699 --> 01:30:58,659
all the way through the the the rock blade or
whatever it is the mountain and the way on

1634
01:30:58,659 --> 01:31:04,899
side that we approach the wind is whipping up
and it's driven this dune way up on the cl...

1635
01:31:04,899 --> 01:31:09,439
so you have to hike up this dune and i mean
me and ben were hiking up together i didn'...

1636
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:14,539
hike but we were just like yeah i was i was
behind you guys but you're up you can't yo...

1637
01:31:20,779 --> 01:31:26,699
there's like a rope ladder because it's like
super slick and you we crawl all the way u...

1638
01:31:26,699 --> 01:31:34,159
there's like there's ancient rolled like
sediment jammed into this thing and it was

1639
01:31:34,159 --> 01:31:40,420
strange geological feature when you get
inside it the wind is just it's a rampant

1640
01:31:40,420 --> 01:31:40,739
it's this

1641
01:31:40,739 --> 01:31:43,979
right off the ground

1642
01:31:58,079 --> 01:32:04,579
did this and is when you stand far away from
it it looks like a giant dragon head it lo...

1643
01:32:04,579 --> 01:32:09,539
a dragon head i mean it looks just like you
know it's a sleeping dragon just head layi...

1644
01:32:13,579 --> 01:32:18,599
saying it's a dragon i'm saying that you
could see this feature miles around you're

1645
01:32:18,599 --> 01:32:25,319
this and it would be if it stands out yeah
yeah yeah so yeah so we're up in the tunne...

1646
01:32:25,319 --> 01:32:30,619
and it's just like this is just it it just
has that feeling of just awe of nature the

1647
01:32:30,619 --> 01:32:36,199
nature and this is just like how ancient is
this and just it'll just get to this

1648
01:32:36,199 --> 01:32:39,039
incredible what sands yes

1649
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:52,380
blade to the other side and that's where
there's this sort of overhang classic shel...

1650
01:32:52,380 --> 01:32:58,939
whole underside of that just this massive
midden area and it was just perfect it's l...

1651
01:32:58,939 --> 01:33:06,300
not only is it a shelter from this brutal
wind yeah but there's also this just amazing

1652
01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:09,500
geological feature that you could see from
miles away that is just

1653
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:22,859
howling through this hole in the rock ah i
just i can't tell you folks how much i wan...

1654
01:33:22,859 --> 01:33:30,680
to that desert i just want to be back there
it's so enchanting yeah anyways we'll have...

1655
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:36,760
to alexandria anyway yeah yeah i'm ready to
go yeah yeah but yeah so there was another

1656
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,519
that popped up yeah while we're here and uh
in fact this was a story that popped up in

1657
01:33:46,260 --> 01:33:50,719
have seen the the live stream i did on my
channel and we talked a bit about i know y...

1658
01:33:50,719 --> 01:33:56,340
about in it and i think we did a podcast
about it too that yeah scanning electron

1659
01:33:56,340 --> 01:34:04,180
on base fragments but you know since then max
zamelov who's a physicist nuclear scientist

1660
01:34:04,180 --> 01:34:08,399
taught at penn state for like eight years or
something like that started his own compan...

1661
01:34:17,559 --> 01:34:24,119
two ton like lead shield for some radio how
are you with surprise he does he has one

1662
01:34:24,119 --> 01:34:28,579
experiments he was doing on his base but he's
since connected with matt bell and he

1663
01:34:28,579 --> 01:34:32,659
i haven't watched it yet because we've been
here in egypt i want to watch it but he we...

1664
01:34:32,659 --> 01:34:39,519
doll yeah on matt bell's and he is i'm very
grateful to him for getting involved in some

1665
01:34:45,539 --> 01:34:51,219
particular skill set like a really advanced
skill set that he has fallen down the rabb...

1666
01:34:51,219 --> 01:34:54,819
you know what the hell are these things and
looking at the results we're getting with ...

1667
01:34:54,819 --> 01:34:59,139
project and the analysis and he's like well
i'm going to start figuring this out using...

1668
01:34:59,139 --> 01:35:03,539
set to do that so you know we kind of started
that with he contacted me and we did this

1669
01:35:03,539 --> 01:35:07,619
electron work there's still i talked a little
bit about in the last video i still need t...

1670
01:35:13,539 --> 01:35:24,340
he's also he recently produced a metrological
study of i think 22 of matt bell's basically

1671
01:35:24,340 --> 01:35:29,260
at this point you know we've got a pretty
good database of of scanned artifacts like

1672
01:35:29,260 --> 01:35:34,399
just one or two anymore like there are dozens
now that have been scanned so matt bell's ...

1673
01:35:34,399 --> 01:35:37,599
22 he's been getting them scanned in with ctx
ray at ems

1674
01:35:40,420 --> 01:35:44,979
of methodological reports and then he's
created a method i talked about it in my l...

1675
01:35:44,979 --> 01:35:51,579
where he was basically i this was exactly
what i was hoping would happen uh with the

1676
01:35:51,579 --> 01:35:56,059
project was that once you get a significant
enough data set you can start to compare them

1677
01:36:00,639 --> 01:36:06,619
can we categorize them and he did exactly
that it's okay so amongst the the hard sto...

1678
01:36:06,619 --> 01:36:11,339
vases that matt bell has they fall into two
distinct categories one is very precise on...

1679
01:36:11,339 --> 01:36:17,359
less precise yeah and there's a gap between
them and then he also drew in like modern

1680
01:36:17,359 --> 01:36:21,899
and a breccia vase and he threw in the you
know the handmade vases that have been use...

1681
01:36:21,899 --> 01:36:26,039
you can make these things with sticks and
stone right rubbing all the sand and showe...

1682
01:36:33,599 --> 01:36:39,179
with this study but um although that was
great work but then he's also now he's

1683
01:36:39,179 --> 01:36:45,679
of his other skills yeah and he's uh figured
out this is something i think fascinating

1684
01:36:45,679 --> 01:36:50,199
things that is like holy shit like the
implications of this so you guys can find

1685
01:36:50,199 --> 01:36:56,019
this if you want to read it yourself at
maximus dot energy um look for excess of

1686
01:37:04,299 --> 01:37:11,799
to a uh radiological study and he says
specifically i used a whole bunch of

1687
01:37:11,799 --> 01:37:17,659
uh an alleged shield to capture high
resolution gamma spectra of these artifact...

1688
01:37:17,659 --> 01:37:25,319
48 hours to capture each spectrum i also
captured spectra of red granite and basalt

1689
01:37:25,319 --> 01:37:26,000
obtain a baseline of these artifacts and i
also captured spectra of red granite and

1690
01:37:30,019 --> 01:37:36,319
and the other two vases are made of basalt so
the results he say the gamma spectrum of t...

1691
01:37:36,319 --> 01:37:44,539
basalt vase the precise one compared to the
gamma spectrum of the basalt rock is shown...

1692
01:37:44,539 --> 01:37:52,719
here basically he says there is a 2.5 times
excess of the thorium uh right that's what

1693
01:37:52,719 --> 01:37:55,979
thorium 212 212 and a 2 times x

1694
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:11,359
oh wait no so thorium 232 and u238 decay
chains so basically let me just go scroll

1695
01:38:11,359 --> 01:38:16,759
a bunch of graphs here preliminary findings
okay so he says because i studied only a v...

1696
01:38:16,759 --> 01:38:20,079
sample of vessels the findings so far must be
classified as preliminary nevertheless

1697
01:38:20,079 --> 01:38:25,960
intriguing patterns emerge the precise vases
are characterized by 2.5

1698
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:39,639
characterized by 2.5 x stronger thorium 232
activity compared to the basalt and red

1699
01:38:39,639 --> 01:38:47,599
samples the gamma spectrum of the imprecise
vase is consistent with the basalt in othe...

1700
01:38:47,599 --> 01:38:53,139
baseline basalt yeah so the preliminary
findings he says are consistent with my

1701
01:38:53,139 --> 01:38:55,939
hypothesis which we will get into in a minute
that's the baseline basalt and the basalt is

1702
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:39,299
nuclear machinery or reactors three i need to
study a larger sample of vessels to firmly

1703
01:39:39,299 --> 01:39:45,539
elevated activity of precise versus imprecise
yep regardless of the nature of the observed

1704
01:39:45,539 --> 01:39:51,779
radionuclides these findings would speak
volumes about how the two classes of vases...

1705
01:39:51,779 --> 01:39:55,899
quite different and four i cannot think of a
trivial way to explain

1706
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:07,259
natural stone they were made from if you
could think of an explanation do let me kn...

1707
01:40:07,259 --> 01:40:15,759
yeah that is amazing first of all yes the
implications you know i mean like it at the

1708
01:40:15,759 --> 01:40:21,119
very least you have to say that for whatever
reason they have been exposed to a very

1709
01:40:21,119 --> 01:40:25,879
kind of radioactive material yeah i have a
prosaic explanation possibly

1710
01:40:31,899 --> 01:40:39,859
how many you know samples how many imprecise
versus precise i need a couple blah blah okay

1711
01:40:39,859 --> 01:40:45,659
there's three okay so three vases so that's
why he said so let me preliminary let me m...

1712
01:40:45,659 --> 01:40:55,079
first of all i'm going to tell you what grok
says okay okay um just about thorium 232 s...

1713
01:41:02,699 --> 01:41:07,839
yeah okay depending on where the basalt comes
from and how it's formed so oceanic basalt

1714
01:41:07,839 --> 01:41:16,519
tends to have a lower thorium around 0.1 to 1
parts per million whereas continental basalt

1715
01:41:16,519 --> 01:41:21,279
or basalt from volcanic arcs can have higher
levels up to 5 to 10 parts per million

1716
01:41:21,279 --> 01:41:25,859
uh for you know granite has more thorium

1717
01:41:32,099 --> 01:41:44,819
that the precise vases have an an older and a
higher quality basalt quarry that had a

1718
01:41:44,819 --> 01:41:51,559
thorium content and the imprecise vases are
from like a different quarry in later times

1719
01:41:51,559 --> 01:41:55,739
that has a lower well basalt content by a
couple of you know

1720
01:42:02,039 --> 01:42:07,599
he's saying is okay it's weird that the
precise ones have the as compared to the

1721
01:42:07,599 --> 01:42:13,239
made of the same material and as compared to
the samples of the base rock yeah if that'...

1722
01:42:13,239 --> 01:42:19,159
but we don't know that the samples are at the
actual quarry right yeah the base rock the

1723
01:42:19,159 --> 01:42:24,500
like he so he was messaging me when we were
he put this yeah he made we did either

1724
01:42:24,500 --> 01:42:24,960
the quarry

1725
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:25,819
yeah the base rock the same like he so he was
messaging me when we were he put this yeah he

1726
01:42:30,539 --> 01:42:36,079
been out and visited the best what is the
it's a primary primary and probably and

1727
01:42:36,079 --> 01:42:40,879
known source of basalt for ancient egypt is
up in the fayum it's a mountain range and ...

1728
01:42:40,879 --> 01:42:45,259
there and yeah and we we have a piece of
basalt from that yeah we probably have a

1729
01:42:45,259 --> 01:42:51,319
somewhere from that like it's just well we
can get one oh yeah if we don't have one w...

1730
01:42:54,759 --> 01:43:03,960
nodule to the walk of basil yeah yusuf
probably has one and um nonetheless like y...

1731
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:07,479
think of a trivial reason maybe he's
considered i don't know he said he can't

1732
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:12,939
reason why this would be the case but he has
to study other samples i think it's

1733
01:43:12,939 --> 01:43:18,339
i i you know one of this one of the other
fragments that i have access to is i think

1734
01:43:23,159 --> 01:43:27,879
used to go a little curved like the flat bit
on the bottom then it curves up but you kn...

1735
01:43:27,879 --> 01:43:32,039
yusuf showed it to me he's like yeah this is
no good because it's like it's all messed ...

1736
01:43:32,039 --> 01:43:36,719
inside i don't know that's something's in the
way at that time we need to look at it ins...

1737
01:43:36,719 --> 01:43:42,439
that under a microscope i think it would just
see even elemental would and it would woul...

1738
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:47,960
interesting because like his hypotheses of
trying to explain this is like okay so

1739
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:48,319
you

1740
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:59,679
nuclear machining i guess that but the other
one is like obviously fascinating to me

1741
01:43:59,679 --> 01:44:03,500
like this they could that thing this is one
of the contentions i've always had about t...

1742
01:44:03,500 --> 01:44:08,079
like these are functional things that were
then later inherited used ceremonially and

1743
01:44:08,079 --> 01:44:13,399
used as vases a lot of them don't function as
vases endless examples of pointy tips i ne...

1744
01:44:13,399 --> 01:44:17,059
frame they're too small they don't have like
whatever it is yeah don't work well as vases

1745
01:44:17,059 --> 01:44:18,319
lug handles don't work as handrails

1746
01:44:25,539 --> 01:44:30,019
part of some functional apparatus yeah i
really love the idea of the handles being

1747
01:44:30,019 --> 01:44:35,059
locking mechanism you plug it in turn it turn
it yeah but cam lock east yeah that's alwa...

1748
01:44:35,059 --> 01:44:39,619
i've looked at those yeah that's good you put
you put your nuclear stuff in there and yo...

1749
01:44:39,619 --> 01:44:45,139
if you haven't watched the marvels when every
time i go get the power cell all the back

1750
01:44:45,139 --> 01:44:48,099
yep there it is

1751
01:44:51,699 --> 01:44:54,340
shit even in the fifth element ye green stuff

1752
01:44:54,340 --> 01:44:58,420
glowing green shit yeah you need a glowing
green shade to power up here

1753
01:44:58,420 --> 01:45:08,659
but he he he's here he has another option
this is really cool so again shout out to ...

1754
01:45:08,659 --> 01:45:12,099
been awesome about all of this and i really
encourage you guys just go to the website and

1755
01:45:12,099 --> 01:45:15,059
check this out because i'm not going to read
all of it i'll just go to skip through and

1756
01:45:15,059 --> 01:45:18,179
the abridged version but again at maximus max

1757
01:45:24,899 --> 01:45:30,579
hypothesis marveling at the precision of
ancient egyptian stone artifacts be that

1758
01:45:30,579 --> 01:45:35,059
or stone vases i realize that we are trying
to explain how these objects could have be...

1759
01:45:35,059 --> 01:45:40,099
using our contemporary technology if we are
to believe that these artifacts are a lega...

1760
01:45:40,099 --> 01:45:44,819
much older and much more advanced
civilization than it is futile trying to

1761
01:45:49,699 --> 01:45:54,579
mills that we use today for the same reason
that we do not use flint tools copper chis...

1762
01:45:54,579 --> 01:46:00,899
wheels in modern day manufacturing so we need
to look further what powerful yet plausibl...

1763
01:46:00,899 --> 01:46:06,979
could this hypothetical advanced civilization
have used so allow me to formulate a

1764
01:46:06,979 --> 01:46:13,459
it is common knowledge that nuclear energy
nuclear energy packs millions of times mor...

1765
01:46:13,459 --> 01:46:14,819
mass per unit mass compared to nuclear energy
per unit mass per unit mass per unit mass

1766
01:46:19,939 --> 01:46:26,019
rather than a mechanical one allow me to
explain so this is great because i

1767
01:46:26,019 --> 01:46:31,779
started thinking of the shamir cutting with
ion beams a jedi lightsaber ion beams

1768
01:46:31,779 --> 01:46:38,659
are commonly used for micro machining e.g
when high voltage accelerates ions the hig...

1769
01:46:38,659 --> 01:46:44,819
ions impinge on the surface and dislodge
atoms one can do the same thing using

1770
01:46:53,699 --> 01:47:03,379
yeah let me do that it's polonium polonium
210 for example these atoms decay by emitt...

1771
01:47:03,379 --> 01:47:09,219
particles which are helium ions traveling at
very high velocity a milli a milligram of

1772
01:47:09,219 --> 01:47:14,659
polonium right a milligram of polonium 210
would emit a horrendous flux of helium ions

1773
01:47:19,539 --> 01:47:26,500
a blade with a rich surface layer of
polonium-210 such a blade would ionize the

1774
01:47:26,500 --> 01:47:32,659
and will glow like a jedi's lightsaber as
lava particles scatter on air molecules lo...

1775
01:47:32,659 --> 01:47:38,979
and emit light in the process however should
such an alpha emitter coated blade come in...

1776
01:47:38,979 --> 01:47:43,779
with a solid surface the alpha particles
would ablate it away at a rapid rate and t...

1777
01:47:51,939 --> 01:47:56,659
be the physical effort that does the cutting
it would be the ablating action of the alp...

1778
01:47:56,659 --> 01:48:01,939
which draw their power from the astonishing
energy confined within the nucleus such a

1779
01:48:01,939 --> 01:48:06,420
tool would be very easy to control one can
simply move the blade away when cutting is...

1780
01:48:06,420 --> 01:48:11,139
needed the air gap between the blade and the
stone would scatter and diffuse the alpha

1781
01:48:11,139 --> 01:48:12,739
stopping the ablation and there will be no
reason to cut through stone without any

1782
01:48:17,299 --> 01:48:23,379
turned to gas or extremely fine powder so
what stops us from developing such technol...

1783
01:48:23,379 --> 01:48:28,259
one our limited mastery of nuclear energy and
remember this guy is like a nuclear physic...

1784
01:48:28,259 --> 01:48:33,539
knows what he's talking about we do not yet
know how to synthesize how to control and ...

1785
01:48:33,539 --> 01:48:39,779
large quantities of polonium 210 or any other
short-lived alpha emitter but if we can learn

1786
01:48:39,779 --> 01:48:42,099
we can learn if we set our minds to it

1787
01:48:47,459 --> 01:48:54,259
but getting to the end here it says testing
hypothesis if nuclear machining was used to

1788
01:48:54,259 --> 01:48:58,659
shape and cut the ancient megaliths what
evidence of it can we find i can think of ...

1789
01:48:58,659 --> 01:49:04,579
one because the isotopes necessary for
nuclear machining described above by

1790
01:49:04,579 --> 01:49:10,259
lived we are not going to find any of them
but we may find their decay products if th...

1791
01:49:14,340 --> 01:49:18,500
analysis of the surface composition finding
heavy elements such as bismuth or lead

1792
01:49:15,980 --> 01:49:22,700
Finding heavy elements such as bismuth or
lead will be exciting as many heavy

1793
01:49:22,700 --> 01:49:27,900
2. Excess amount of helium trapped in the
rock would be a telltale sign of alpha

1794
01:49:27,900 --> 01:49:36,780
3. Perhaps there could be trace amounts of
radioactivity left in the rock due to othe...

1795
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:47,500
This is the thorium.

1796
01:49:47,500 --> 01:49:56,140
Lastly, perhaps there might be anomalies in
the crystalline structure such as

1797
01:49:56,140 --> 01:50:06,840
In principle, it is possible to expose stones
to small quantities of alpha or beta emitt...

1798
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:22,039
As such, the proposed hypothesis is testable,
and it is testable with conventional tools...

1799
01:50:22,039 --> 01:50:27,600
Who knows? Perhaps the ancient stone
artifacts might teach us a thing or two ab...

1800
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:36,039
It's so cool. He goes along for controlling
the reaction. He's showing diagrams of how

1801
01:50:36,039 --> 01:50:36,560
Anyway, so...

1802
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:37,000
It's so cool. He goes along for controlling
the reaction. He's showing diagrams of how

1803
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:35,520
And then later... And then later, they forgot
how to use it. They contained it in a box.

1804
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,260
Yeah, blind. Yeah, they go blind. They die
young.

1805
01:51:42,260 --> 01:51:43,420
Yeah. Yeah.

1806
01:51:43,420 --> 01:51:52,039
I'm more ready to believe this than the
frickin' chambers under the Khafre Pyramid...

1807
01:51:52,039 --> 01:51:55,560
Yeah, this... This is what I'm talking about!

1808
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:56,820
So good!

1809
01:51:56,820 --> 01:51:59,200
And then he finds elevated levels of thorium.

1810
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:00,420
Yeah.

1811
01:52:00,420 --> 01:52:01,940
In the precise vases.

1812
01:52:01,940 --> 01:52:05,039
So if there's anyone in the UK that has a 1.5
ton lead sheet...

1813
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:20,220
Getting 1.5 tons up the stairs and through
the little... It's going to be difficult.

1814
01:52:20,220 --> 01:52:24,160
Well, yeah. Leaking truth. But yeah, it's...

1815
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,140
If you were bringing it in pieces...

1816
01:52:26,140 --> 01:52:28,780
Come on, you got... That has to be a Monty
Python shit.

1817
01:52:28,780 --> 01:52:33,440
Look, lead blocks like this, he can build
a...

1818
01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:34,079
Right, sorry.

1819
01:52:39,820 --> 01:52:46,539
Yeah, I mean, it's fantastic. I love this
again. It's like, Dunn did it with that

1820
01:52:46,539 --> 01:52:52,579
I mean, and this is like, I love
knowledgeable speculation like this.

1821
01:52:52,579 --> 01:53:00,460
And it's... Yeah, it's... If you're proposing
a hypothesis based on the limited data tha...

1822
01:53:00,460 --> 01:53:05,160
But man, like, this is... It's... It's... The
thing about the vases is that we keep digg...

1823
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:10,800
Yeah. Remember...

1824
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:14,980
There's something else. This is not
explain... Look, the goalposts have shifte...

1825
01:53:14,980 --> 01:53:20,240
This is the best thing about this whole base
scan discussion to me is that the goal... ...

1826
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:24,820
It's just, look, primitive people rub on this
ship with rocks and stones and sand. That'...

1827
01:53:24,820 --> 01:53:27,380
It's just they tried really hard, yo, and
they do it.

1828
01:53:27,380 --> 01:53:28,800
But now it's like...

1829
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,520
They were proud to work for the Pharaoh for
their entire life.

1830
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:35,079
It's completely shifted. Like, well, you
know, you just... It's like you get a

1831
01:53:36,300 --> 01:53:40,039
And, you know, maybe they had wooden lathes.

1832
01:53:40,039 --> 01:53:43,320
Yeah, I mean, like, look, anyone can do this
with a lathe.

1833
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:46,120
And, you know, even a wooden lathe. This is
such bullshit.

1834
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:50,560
But it's caused that... I mean, I just think
it's undeniable.

1835
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,840
Like, the goalposts have shifted that
discussion.

1836
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:58,039
And this... Every little extra layer of this
is just going to keep moving it further an...

1837
01:53:58,039 --> 01:54:01,500
Yeah, away. I just... From the standard
model.

1838
01:54:01,500 --> 01:54:01,800
Cool.

1839
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:05,160
So, again, now you can apply this.

1840
01:54:09,060 --> 01:54:12,280
Yeah, you have something that might actually
shine.

1841
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:17,200
My only question to Max, and we'll ask him
this, obviously, is, like,

1842
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:23,560
what can you put polonium-210 on that won't
get eaten by it, right?

1843
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:24,380
Right.

1844
01:54:24,380 --> 01:54:26,960
So, like, what's your blade material? I'm
sure he's figured this out.

1845
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:28,360
Electrum.

1846
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,300
Oh, maybe it's electrum.

1847
01:54:30,300 --> 01:54:33,000
There you go. That's why they're all rotten
with electrum. Yeah.

1848
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,000
You need a blade material that...

1849
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:39,760
Yeah, it's the same thing.

1850
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:41,700
Because the alpha particles are going
everywhere.

1851
01:54:41,700 --> 01:54:44,840
And it's going to be subjected to it the most
all the time.

1852
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:46,500
Yeah, because it's surrounded by...

1853
01:54:46,500 --> 01:54:46,579
It has to survive.

1854
01:54:46,579 --> 01:54:47,740
It's completely surrounded by...

1855
01:54:47,740 --> 01:54:50,360
So, maybe some certain metals are okay,
whatever.

1856
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:50,880
Yeah.

1857
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:53,980
But, dude, you can make your blade any shape.

1858
01:54:53,980 --> 01:54:56,680
It can be attached to anything.

1859
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,460
It can be worked by hand.

1860
01:54:59,460 --> 01:55:00,920
It can be an articulating arm.

1861
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:02,380
You can have, like...

1862
01:55:02,380 --> 01:55:03,920
You can have it on a chisel, and you're just
like...

1863
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:06,820
You know, it can...

1864
01:55:06,820 --> 01:55:07,800
Have it on a friggin' two-drill.

1865
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:08,060
Yeah.

1866
01:55:08,060 --> 01:55:13,039
Now, admittedly, you don't want to be close
to it, either.

1867
01:55:13,039 --> 01:55:15,579
I mean, so maybe you don't put it on a
chisel,

1868
01:55:15,579 --> 01:55:18,460
or whoever's working with it is protected in
some way.

1869
01:55:18,460 --> 01:55:22,280
Well, as he says, we have yet to learn how to
control and use...

1870
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:22,539
Yeah.

1871
01:55:22,539 --> 01:55:27,120
If electrum, or this mythical metal that they
were working with,

1872
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:30,400
was, like, a shield,

1873
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,940
was able to sustain, like, to...

1874
01:55:32,940 --> 01:55:34,220
You could have this stuff...

1875
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:36,140
Right.

1876
01:55:36,140 --> 01:55:37,680
Then you could build a...

1877
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:38,440
Yeah.

1878
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:40,260
You could build a protective layer of this
stuff.

1879
01:55:40,260 --> 01:55:43,840
Remember those scaled feet that we saw at
Karnak?

1880
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:45,520
That dude standing up there?

1881
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,660
Like, scaled feet at Karnak?

1882
01:55:47,660 --> 01:55:49,500
It's like, literally, there's a massive
glyph,

1883
01:55:49,500 --> 01:55:51,380
and it's just like this dude who never seen
anything like it,

1884
01:55:51,380 --> 01:55:52,840
where it just looks like scale mail.

1885
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:53,700
Oh, yeah, yeah.

1886
01:55:53,700 --> 01:55:54,200
On the feet.

1887
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:56,760
It's an electrum armor set, bro.

1888
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:57,520
Yeah, there you go.

1889
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:58,920
Fully armored.

1890
01:55:58,920 --> 01:55:59,720
I'll show you guys the picture.

1891
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:00,420
It's really cool.

1892
01:56:00,420 --> 01:56:03,760
Although, I think Mama Jobber had an
explanation for it.

1893
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:05,500
There's all your explanations.

1894
01:56:05,500 --> 01:56:06,280
It wasn't my fault.

1895
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:06,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1896
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:08,800
This is just this god in this form.

1897
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:10,000
Yeah, so honest.

1898
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:12,060
I'm like, no, that's a dude in, like, scale
mail armor.

1899
01:56:12,060 --> 01:56:13,840
Scale mail armor.

1900
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:15,079
Electrum scale mail armor.

1901
01:56:15,079 --> 01:56:16,960
Definitely, that's what it is.

1902
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:17,280
Yeah.

1903
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:18,880
He's out there wielding it.

1904
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:19,480
And they have this tool.

1905
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:20,440
And we only have the feet.

1906
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:22,600
If we had the rest of it, you see, he's on a
boat.

1907
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:24,740
He's just running past the cliff of ground
and just going...

1908
01:56:24,740 --> 01:56:26,980
They have a tool that the guys are holding,

1909
01:56:26,980 --> 01:56:30,820
and it's got this, like, T-shape, like, this
bar at the top of it.

1910
01:56:30,820 --> 01:56:32,320
And these dudes are holding this tool.

1911
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:32,800
Yeah.

1912
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:33,740
I'm like, that's...

1913
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:36,060
Yeah.

1914
01:56:36,060 --> 01:56:37,440
Down the face of the...

1915
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:38,120
No, exactly.

1916
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:38,880
The squeegee.

1917
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:40,480
Yeah, that is...

1918
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:41,400
The granite squeegee.

1919
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:42,120
Granite squeegee.

1920
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:42,900
Exciting.

1921
01:56:42,900 --> 01:56:44,720
Well, we just need to flatten this section.

1922
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:45,260
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1923
01:56:45,260 --> 01:56:45,940
I'll get to it this afternoon.

1924
01:56:45,940 --> 01:56:49,780
But, again, imagine the drill core, right?

1925
01:56:49,780 --> 01:56:50,260
Yeah.

1926
01:56:50,260 --> 01:56:52,760
So, you have, like, you have bits of metal,

1927
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:53,520
and it's just...

1928
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:54,460
You have some polonium...

1929
01:56:54,460 --> 01:56:55,320
Or teeth on it.

1930
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:56,079
Teeth on it, yeah.

1931
01:56:56,079 --> 01:56:57,579
It's just, like...

1932
01:56:57,579 --> 01:56:58,180
And it just...

1933
01:56:58,180 --> 01:56:58,920
And you just penetrate.

1934
01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:00,360
And that picture would explain the
penetration.

1935
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:01,780
And it just, like, it doesn't...

1936
01:57:01,780 --> 01:57:03,740
It's turning the stuff into gas and dust.

1937
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:05,860
Or like a giant circular saw.

1938
01:57:05,860 --> 01:57:06,600
It's all about...

1939
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:06,820
Yeah.

1940
01:57:06,820 --> 01:57:07,520
It's all about...

1941
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:08,100
Well, wait.

1942
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:09,700
No, there's no materials removal.

1943
01:57:09,700 --> 01:57:10,180
That's right.

1944
01:57:10,180 --> 01:57:11,539
It's turning it into gas and dust.

1945
01:57:11,539 --> 01:57:12,700
It's carrying it out with it.

1946
01:57:12,700 --> 01:57:13,700
Why is it tapered?

1947
01:57:13,700 --> 01:57:15,800
I'm thinking about this one.

1948
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:16,880
Well, no, the tapering is...

1949
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:18,600
I actually think the tapering has an
explanation.

1950
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:20,180
The tapering...

1951
01:57:20,180 --> 01:57:20,380
Okay.

1952
01:57:20,380 --> 01:57:23,100
So, this is an esoteric discussion with drill
cores.

1953
01:57:23,100 --> 01:57:25,500
So, just to set the scene for the discussion.

1954
01:57:25,500 --> 01:57:26,880
So, okay.

1955
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:28,860
And this is a thing that people always talk
about.

1956
01:57:28,860 --> 01:57:30,020
Like, when people say,

1957
01:57:30,020 --> 01:57:33,220
oh, maybe that spiral helix is created

1958
01:57:33,220 --> 01:57:33,740
when you underline...

1959
01:57:34,340 --> 01:57:34,780
Yeah, no.

1960
01:57:34,780 --> 01:57:35,260
No.

1961
01:57:35,260 --> 01:57:37,380
No, because the holes are straight.

1962
01:57:37,380 --> 01:57:38,320
Like, where's the camera?

1963
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:38,539
Here.

1964
01:57:38,539 --> 01:57:39,300
The holes are straight.

1965
01:57:39,300 --> 01:57:39,900
No.

1966
01:57:39,900 --> 01:57:41,740
The drill cores, when you snap them out,

1967
01:57:41,740 --> 01:57:42,740
are...

1968
01:57:42,740 --> 01:57:43,240
Tapered.

1969
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:43,680
Tapered.

1970
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:43,920
Yeah.

1971
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,500
Can't actually...

1972
01:57:46,500 --> 01:57:47,159
Can't actually do anything.

1973
01:57:47,159 --> 01:57:47,560
Yeah.

1974
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:49,100
Yeah.

1975
01:57:49,100 --> 01:57:49,760
So, they're tapered.

1976
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:50,560
So, the holes are straight.

1977
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,340
The cores are tapered.

1978
01:57:52,340 --> 01:57:52,540
Yes.

1979
01:57:52,540 --> 01:57:52,659
Why?

1980
01:57:52,659 --> 01:57:53,579
So, why?

1981
01:57:53,579 --> 01:57:55,460
And it's like, well, so, first of all,

1982
01:57:55,460 --> 01:57:55,980
it's...

1983
01:57:55,980 --> 01:57:56,520
You can tell...

1984
01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:57,840
Like, what I think is that, okay,

1985
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,180
they had drill bits for certain depths.

1986
01:58:00,180 --> 01:58:02,500
We know there are drill holes that are this
deep.

1987
01:58:02,500 --> 01:58:03,740
We know there are ones that are this deep.

1988
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:08,540
these tools designed for specific depths

1989
01:58:08,540 --> 01:58:09,840
to tape it.

1990
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:10,820
Because it's about the length of it?

1991
01:58:10,820 --> 01:58:11,360
Yeah.

1992
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:11,880
It's about...

1993
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:12,800
So, you can't taper.

1994
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:14,120
You can't just endlessly...

1995
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:14,480
It's just...

1996
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:15,579
You can't just keep tapering.

1997
01:58:15,579 --> 01:58:16,860
It's going to tear out.

1998
01:58:16,860 --> 01:58:17,079
Yeah.

1999
01:58:17,079 --> 01:58:17,620
So...

2000
01:58:17,620 --> 01:58:18,760
But for widths and depths,

2001
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:19,680
they had different tools.

2002
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:21,760
But here's why I think they were tapered.

2003
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:24,579
It's because if you get down to the bottom

2004
01:58:24,579 --> 01:58:25,240
of those drill cores

2005
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:26,159
and you can see the lip,

2006
01:58:26,159 --> 01:58:28,180
it's like a millimeter or two thick.

2007
01:58:28,180 --> 01:58:29,659
I mean, how...

2008
01:58:29,659 --> 01:58:30,079
Yeah, I know.

2009
01:58:30,079 --> 01:58:31,860
The whole idea of the drill core is what?

2010
01:58:31,860 --> 01:58:33,000
It's to...

2011
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:33,740
It's to...

2012
01:58:35,500 --> 01:58:37,260
to then remove the core.

2013
01:58:37,260 --> 01:58:37,940
You think a tape break

2014
01:58:37,940 --> 01:58:39,600
was built into the interior shape of the
core?

2015
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:40,200
The tape break

2016
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:41,760
was built into the interior shape.

2017
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:42,880
It's built into the tool.

2018
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:43,320
And you...

2019
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:43,820
Like you said,

2020
01:58:43,820 --> 01:58:44,480
it's built into the inside.

2021
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:45,280
Right.

2022
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:46,579
So, for a certain depth.

2023
01:58:46,579 --> 01:58:46,960
Yeah.

2024
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:48,540
Let's say you have this depth.

2025
01:58:48,540 --> 01:58:49,560
You go down

2026
01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:50,780
and you take it out

2027
01:58:50,780 --> 01:58:52,060
and you break the core off.

2028
01:58:52,060 --> 01:58:53,320
Then you put the tool back in

2029
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:54,280
and you can go down another...

2030
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:54,520
No, no.

2031
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:54,800
No.

2032
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:55,700
If you have...

2033
01:58:55,700 --> 01:58:57,960
If you need one that's 12 inches deep

2034
01:58:57,960 --> 01:58:59,260
or 14,

2035
01:58:59,260 --> 01:59:00,760
like the ones in the Great Pyramid

2036
01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:01,280
that are like this,

2037
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:02,360
that the door...

2038
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:03,260
Like the deep.

2039
01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:06,620
The reason that I think they're tapered

2040
01:59:06,620 --> 01:59:08,120
is that you need some space.

2041
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:09,200
Like, it's still...

2042
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:11,360
You still are removing that drill core

2043
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:12,180
with some manual...

2044
01:59:12,180 --> 01:59:13,020
Like, you're snapping it off.

2045
01:59:13,020 --> 01:59:14,280
We know they snapped them off.

2046
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:15,500
Those doors.

2047
01:59:15,500 --> 01:59:16,440
You need a manoeuvre room at the top.

2048
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:18,560
You need room to shove a frigging chisel

2049
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:19,579
or some big bar in it

2050
01:59:19,579 --> 01:59:20,740
or something to lever that thing

2051
01:59:20,740 --> 01:59:21,360
and snap it off.

2052
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:22,340
You still...

2053
01:59:22,340 --> 01:59:23,159
We still do this today

2054
01:59:23,159 --> 01:59:24,200
even as advanced as we are.

2055
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:25,140
We...

2056
01:59:25,140 --> 01:59:25,800
You know, we...

2057
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:26,480
With wood or whatever,

2058
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:27,260
you cut it out

2059
01:59:27,260 --> 01:59:29,240
and then you've got to chisel that thing in
there

2060
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:31,240
and you have to snap it off.

2061
01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:33,700
But if the whole thing was a millimetre

2062
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:36,280
you're just left with this...

2063
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:37,480
Yeah, you don't have enough room.

2064
01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:38,380
You know, you would flex

2065
01:59:38,380 --> 01:59:39,220
and you wouldn't have enough...

2066
01:59:39,220 --> 01:59:40,720
To flex and to get it in there

2067
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:41,840
and pry it and snap it off.

2068
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:43,000
I think that's why they're tapered.

2069
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:45,020
It's literally just a mechanical...

2070
01:59:45,020 --> 01:59:45,960
How do we snap it off?

2071
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:46,540
By the way,

2072
01:59:46,540 --> 01:59:49,320
how the fuck are you snapping off

2073
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:51,800
a 9-inch or even a 20-inch drill core

2074
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:53,360
when it can't act?

2075
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:53,820
It's like...

2076
01:59:53,820 --> 01:59:55,159
It's this deep

2077
01:59:55,159 --> 01:59:56,840
and it's like this wide.

2078
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:57,480
Resonance.

2079
01:59:57,480 --> 01:59:59,780
I mean, that's like a traffic...

2080
01:59:59,780 --> 02:00:00,360
The tank stop.

2081
02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:00,920
Resonance.

2082
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:01,220
Yeah.

2083
02:00:01,220 --> 02:00:02,659
You just snap that thing off.

2084
02:00:02,659 --> 02:00:03,680
You just need to know...

2085
02:00:04,900 --> 02:00:05,760
of that core

2086
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:06,860
and you get it ringing

2087
02:00:06,860 --> 02:00:07,720
and just...

2088
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:08,700
Let me make that point.

2089
02:00:08,700 --> 02:00:11,280
So that's why they're tapered.

2090
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:12,220
Yes, the tools...

2091
02:00:12,220 --> 02:00:13,380
That's a great point on the circuit.

2092
02:00:13,380 --> 02:00:14,159
I was down and said this to you.

2093
02:00:14,159 --> 02:00:15,460
The tools were tapered

2094
02:00:15,460 --> 02:00:16,079
on the inside

2095
02:00:16,079 --> 02:00:17,200
and here's why

2096
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:18,440
and that also shows you

2097
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:20,020
that the people that say

2098
02:00:20,020 --> 02:00:21,500
that all these screws were moved

2099
02:00:21,500 --> 02:00:23,920
when you unscrewed the bit

2100
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:24,860
doesn't work.

2101
02:00:24,860 --> 02:00:26,659
And it's the second you back it off,

2102
02:00:26,659 --> 02:00:29,720
it's like a tapered inside of the tool

2103
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:30,620
onto a tapered core.

2104
02:00:30,620 --> 02:00:31,620
The second you back it off,

2105
02:00:31,620 --> 02:00:32,240
you're lifting up

2106
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:32,860
and you're...

2107
02:00:32,860 --> 02:00:33,659
Not the same material.

2108
02:00:34,900 --> 02:00:35,880
So it's just like...

2109
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:37,340
You're touching the outside of the core

2110
02:00:37,340 --> 02:00:38,440
and not the inside.

2111
02:00:38,440 --> 02:00:39,560
You're touching the outside.

2112
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:39,820
Yeah.

2113
02:00:39,820 --> 02:00:41,480
I mean, I just think...

2114
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:42,900
Look, hey, am I...

2115
02:00:42,900 --> 02:00:45,740
I think it explains the features that we see.

2116
02:00:45,740 --> 02:00:46,980
I think he's also right

2117
02:00:46,980 --> 02:00:48,020
that you could continue to drill

2118
02:00:48,020 --> 02:00:48,700
because you...

2119
02:00:48,700 --> 02:00:49,500
Even after snapping off...

2120
02:00:49,500 --> 02:00:50,120
You absolutely could.

2121
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:50,640
You still...

2122
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:52,000
Yeah, put it back down in there

2123
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:53,060
and you start off at...

2124
02:00:53,060 --> 02:00:53,220
Yeah.

2125
02:00:53,220 --> 02:00:53,880
And you just...

2126
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:54,800
But that's not the point.

2127
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:56,100
Your point is well made

2128
02:00:56,100 --> 02:01:00,579
that the striations can't be

2129
02:01:00,579 --> 02:01:02,180
from removing it

2130
02:01:02,180 --> 02:01:02,940
because the tape,

2131
02:01:02,940 --> 02:01:03,640
as soon as you pull it out,

2132
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:07,120
And the taper is built in

2133
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:08,760
because you do need that leverage

2134
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:09,440
at the top.

2135
02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:10,440
Like, if you're...

2136
02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:11,880
Because the leading...

2137
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:13,740
I mean, it's a perfect combination

2138
02:01:13,740 --> 02:01:14,920
of these two points.

2139
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:17,159
You wouldn't have enough leeway

2140
02:01:17,159 --> 02:01:19,920
in a core that deep.

2141
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:21,260
Leverage.

2142
02:01:21,260 --> 02:01:22,800
Yeah, you just have no...

2143
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:23,480
You could push it

2144
02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:25,860
and make the top touch the other side

2145
02:01:25,860 --> 02:01:26,920
and it wouldn't snap at the bottom.

2146
02:01:26,920 --> 02:01:27,500
Well, you'd have to...

2147
02:01:27,500 --> 02:01:28,880
Literally, if it was just a millimeter,

2148
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:29,960
if it was just that thin,

2149
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:31,840
the tool tip width

2150
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:33,020
that we see at the bottom of the hole

2151
02:01:33,020 --> 02:01:33,460
or the top,

2152
02:01:33,460 --> 02:01:33,620
you'd literally have to

2153
02:01:34,780 --> 02:01:35,800
instead of to hammer something.

2154
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:36,579
Yeah.

2155
02:01:36,579 --> 02:01:37,860
You'd bust up the hole.

2156
02:01:37,860 --> 02:01:39,480
You'd break the edges of that hole.

2157
02:01:39,480 --> 02:01:41,140
The other thing you need,

2158
02:01:41,140 --> 02:01:41,860
you want the hole,

2159
02:01:41,860 --> 02:01:42,460
not the core.

2160
02:01:42,460 --> 02:01:42,900
Exactly.

2161
02:01:42,900 --> 02:01:44,360
The core is not the purpose.

2162
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:45,420
The other thing I really like

2163
02:01:45,420 --> 02:01:47,659
about the interior taper

2164
02:01:47,659 --> 02:01:48,680
of the tool

2165
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:50,760
is that it seems like

2166
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:52,740
it would give the tool

2167
02:01:52,740 --> 02:01:53,520
a lot of stability.

2168
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:54,720
Yeah.

2169
02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:56,960
That it isn't going to want to...

2170
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:57,340
Wall.

2171
02:01:57,340 --> 02:01:57,760
Yeah.

2172
02:01:57,760 --> 02:01:59,100
Like, you're actually like...

2173
02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:01,440
It's always contacting, right?

2174
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:03,400
The whole time it's going down,

2175
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:06,300
Yes.

2176
02:02:06,300 --> 02:02:07,820
Because as the interior...

2177
02:02:07,820 --> 02:02:08,440
It's drilling away.

2178
02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:09,860
It's continuing to work on the stove.

2179
02:02:09,860 --> 02:02:10,159
Yes.

2180
02:02:10,159 --> 02:02:12,500
So the core is incredibly stable.

2181
02:02:12,500 --> 02:02:14,960
The core actually keeps it stable.

2182
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:15,920
The drunken spiral.

2183
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:16,560
Yeah, exactly.

2184
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:18,240
It's not one cutting tip.

2185
02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:19,140
It's several.

2186
02:02:19,140 --> 02:02:20,040
Many cutting tips

2187
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:21,220
on the inside and the outside.

2188
02:02:21,220 --> 02:02:21,880
Here's the theory.

2189
02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:23,300
Imagine this is this frigging

2190
02:02:23,300 --> 02:02:24,300
like...

2191
02:02:24,300 --> 02:02:25,659
Yeah, polonium to a dim thing.

2192
02:02:25,659 --> 02:02:28,460
That explains you don't need Petrie's...

2193
02:02:28,460 --> 02:02:29,300
Even Petrie's said

2194
02:02:29,300 --> 02:02:30,680
you need two to three tons...

2195
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:30,900
Right.

2196
02:02:30,900 --> 02:02:31,240
No.

2197
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:32,400
Of pressure on like a

2198
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:33,579
four-inch tube drill.

2199
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:35,860
I mean, he's just trying

2200
02:02:35,860 --> 02:02:36,480
to understand how

2201
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:37,579
that penetrated so quick.

2202
02:02:37,579 --> 02:02:38,640
But yes,

2203
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:39,900
that would explain it

2204
02:02:39,900 --> 02:02:40,480
and you can...

2205
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:41,579
And also the mechanism

2206
02:02:41,579 --> 02:02:42,860
of just like

2207
02:02:42,860 --> 02:02:44,240
you're evaporating the material.

2208
02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:45,200
So it's just...

2209
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:46,100
You might just be

2210
02:02:46,100 --> 02:02:47,100
blasting that damn thing

2211
02:02:47,100 --> 02:02:47,780
with compressed air

2212
02:02:47,780 --> 02:02:48,520
at the same time.

2213
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:48,800
Yeah.

2214
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:49,800
And it's just like...

2215
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:52,159
You don't need water cooling.

2216
02:02:52,159 --> 02:02:53,180
You don't need a slurry.

2217
02:02:53,180 --> 02:02:54,980
You just plunge it

2218
02:02:54,980 --> 02:02:55,620
into the stone,

2219
02:02:55,620 --> 02:02:56,860
spinning it slowly.

2220
02:02:56,860 --> 02:02:57,900
You don't need...

2221
02:02:53,199 --> 02:02:59,260
you just plunge it into the stone spinning it
slowly you don't have to spin it fast it's

2222
02:02:59,260 --> 02:03:08,480
like yeah i don't pull it out yeah pull it
out yeah the other thing is this thorium 232

2223
02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:16,220
is naturally occurring in all of this bedrock
and all of this so it's like

2224
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:28,659
isolate it like maybe the process of
isolating this material would be very

2225
02:03:28,659 --> 02:03:36,579
it's very but the fact that it's so abundant
uh makes it plausible this is not somethin...

2226
02:03:36,579 --> 02:03:45,579
they had to manufacture or enrich they could
find it in the natural world i mean with

2227
02:03:45,579 --> 02:03:47,520
discovering the benefits of thorium here too
like the

2228
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:47,779
thorium is a very important element of the
natural world and it's a very important

2229
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:52,940
thorium molten salt reactor is like one of
those inventions that's potentially could

2230
02:03:52,940 --> 02:03:57,760
entire relationship with nuclear power it's a
very same like they're looking they've made

2231
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:02,500
unity rafters out of it thorium molten salt
is what was this deal with the salt yeah y...

2232
02:04:02,500 --> 02:04:08,260
molten salt so this potentially this this may
have been like a pat these vases may have

2233
02:04:08,260 --> 02:04:13,500
a this is complete speculation just so we
know it you know they may have been part o...

2234
02:04:13,500 --> 02:04:17,539
power source that we could have been using
technology like a thorium molten salt reactor

2235
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:27,940
they were machined with from a culture and a
civilization that had that capability

2236
02:04:27,940 --> 02:04:33,619
what they were for and they would they're
part of a functional apparatus i mean agai...

2237
02:04:33,619 --> 02:04:37,680
classes like even with the there's i make the
big deal with the tale of two industries

2238
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:47,739
alabaster ones versus the hard stone vases
because it's it's so blindingly obvious an...

2239
02:04:52,260 --> 02:04:58,820
okay it's just i simplify it just for that
tale of two industries in most settings th...

2240
02:04:58,820 --> 02:05:05,000
nuance as with all these things there's
endless nuance and uh detail i just have t...

2241
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:12,140
thing i'd like to throw out there about the
the molten salt reactor yes so so yeah

2242
02:05:12,140 --> 02:05:17,380
grok the leading thorium reactor concept is
the liquid fluoride thorium reactor

2243
02:05:24,079 --> 02:05:31,619
molten salt at high temperatures 600 to 700 c
uh it runs at atmospheric pressure it's safer

2244
02:05:31,619 --> 02:05:36,159
yes it's not a high pressure of salt doubles
as a coolant of fuel okay so

2245
02:05:36,159 --> 02:05:45,940
the memory again going back to like the
memory from the dynastic egyptians of this

2246
02:05:45,940 --> 02:05:47,699
is in their analysis

2247
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:58,500
sandstone yeah they can fucking rub it flat
they can do all this stuff and then they

2248
02:05:58,500 --> 02:06:05,659
temples this thing like the temple is some
it's something that the gods made and the

2249
02:06:05,659 --> 02:06:11,860
anointing the temple and there's these
carvings of them pouring this they're pour...

2250
02:06:11,860 --> 02:06:16,960
the temple salt salt yeah yeah i love this
yeah

2251
02:06:22,579 --> 02:06:27,659
like a thorium reactor there's a salt thing
and then i don't know yeah and there's tha...

2252
02:06:27,659 --> 02:06:31,779
cool i mean that all that's that's absolutely
i've got this video in the works is is that

2253
02:06:31,779 --> 02:06:36,560
it's it's surrounding like the topic is the
dendera light bulbs but it's gonna have a

2254
02:06:36,560 --> 02:06:42,199
preamble talking about the interpretation
that you heard me give the spiel on the si...

2255
02:06:42,199 --> 02:06:47,619
in the tour about the possibility that what
we're seeing these scenes and these

2256
02:06:47,619 --> 02:06:47,680
of this is going to be a preamble to the
anointing of the temple and it's going to ...

2257
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:59,520
of years ago of things that were once
functional the civilization ended these

2258
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:06,039
campfires and in oral tales for generations
upon generations yeah and then and then th...

2259
02:07:06,039 --> 02:07:11,280
started civilization starts this structure
and there is a framework built up around i...

2260
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:16,480
priesthood and they start to ritualize it and
symbolize it and and then that evolves and

2261
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:17,659
evolves for thousands of years

2262
02:07:23,039 --> 02:07:32,159
the the wasp stuff becomes yeah like a bird
head or whatever like this yeah it's then ...

2263
02:07:32,159 --> 02:07:36,440
look at it and go this is weird like the
thing he's holding in his hand like the

2264
02:07:36,440 --> 02:07:40,460
another example right so i think it's like it
may have just gone through this filter of

2265
02:07:40,460 --> 02:07:47,579
of years of symbolic ritualized cargo cult
behavior of like this is a memory of

2266
02:07:52,940 --> 02:07:58,199
give us these magical mystical powers that we
are it's just technology that we're mistak...

2267
02:07:58,199 --> 02:08:03,739
magic now like i love it yeah i think that's
a great way to when you go into these temp...

2268
02:08:03,739 --> 02:08:08,619
you look at what's on the walls to consider
that just like what is this is this is lik...

2269
02:08:08,619 --> 02:08:14,699
version through thousands of years of this of
this culture and framework and structure a...

2270
02:08:14,699 --> 02:08:17,560
evolved from this idea and this story that
that they had originally and it's just

2271
02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:27,159
yeah like fantastic the tablets in in
ethiopia right it's like they graham goes

2272
02:08:27,159 --> 02:08:32,360
whole thing like they they have these
gigantic processions where they the priest...

2273
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:40,360
things through the and they're not the ark
but it's a tablet yeah they're carrying

2274
02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:47,319
you know yeah a tablet yeah yeah the you know
the tribe building wooden airplanes yes

2275
02:08:54,760 --> 02:09:01,400
develop a way not using modern technology but
let's say

2276
02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:08,840
go as as primitive as you can and develop a
way to utilize thorium 232.

2277
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:17,079
you know what i'm saying like rather than i
mean it's just it's it's uh but do it way ...

2278
02:09:17,079 --> 02:09:17,400
desert you know what i'm saying like rather
than i mean it's just it's it's uh but do ...

2279
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:18,039
you know what i'm saying like rather than i
mean it's just it's it's uh but do it way ...

2280
02:09:18,039 --> 02:09:24,360
no no i'm not saying i'm not saying actually
can i set this on far way out in the desert

2281
02:09:24,360 --> 02:09:27,000
i'm not saying by compressing

2282
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:35,000
i'm not saying actually do it i'm talking
about theoretical development uh that's no...

2283
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:41,319
fun a theoretical development like the exacts
like the giza power plant like the giza power

2284
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:53,400
idea of how to like use this pyramid to turn
to create power yeah yeah it's the same thing

2285
02:09:53,400 --> 02:10:01,000
but with this thorium 232 like how could you
stumble upon this or like utilize it in in

2286
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:06,920
the most basic way possible because we
wouldn't we wouldn't think about it normal...

2287
02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:10,520
engineering terms they're like well we have
all this modern technology we can use all ...

2288
02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:22,600
because yeah you're talking about you thought
about the least advanced but the least

2289
02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:28,760
button principle you want to buy baseline the
technology yeah understand that's it i think

2290
02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:34,440
that would be cool because you might be
surprised yeah you might be surprised at h...

2291
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:39,720
could actually do this with like not a whole
lot of our modern tag yeah it would be

2292
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:53,960
getting late we have yeah we have we're going
to uh yeah we're gonna do it tomorrow we have

2293
02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:59,400
we've got a fake contest dude you might have
noticed the bling don't worry it's not rea...

2294
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:04,360
it's our entertainment while we were the
haggling in the earth was actually mostly

2295
02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:09,000
the entertainment was in the the process of
buying it at least it was fake watch story

2296
02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:16,840
red dots on the top of the magnum the
magazine's hanging out the back of my jeans

2297
02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:27,319
anyways i don't even like what is the time
yeah i don't even have bling yeah yeah yea...

2298
02:11:27,319 --> 02:11:30,360
his dive watch is way more it's a dive watch
but yeah it's like yeah

2299
02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:39,079
yeah they got freaking drip over there we're
we're building a uniform yeah you just now

2300
02:11:40,520 --> 02:11:45,560
okay i'll get one you gotta fit the drip

2301
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:51,239
but yeah all right yeah all right guys thank
you guys thank you so much this is fun

2302
02:11:51,239 --> 02:11:56,680
we wanted to record something that it's been
a great tour and then we also wanted to

2303
02:11:56,680 --> 02:12:00,680
on the the craft right thing and yeah i know
people a lot of people asked me so

2304
02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:08,039
there you go this is a proper road of
uncharted x snake bros road toad turns out...

2305
02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:18,600
it in the first for the first take we
completely went down we just did 20 no thi...

2306
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:24,199
it'll be it'll be good audio you know people
can listen yeah indeed yes this was all

2307
02:12:24,199 --> 02:12:33,319
this can be an mp3 as well hey man i might
even put it there you go yes new uncharted...

2308
02:12:33,319 --> 02:12:36,360
that would be like eight months yeah i was
also on the last one

2309
02:12:39,319 --> 02:12:45,000
sorry all right thank you guys so much we we
love you

2310
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:58,680
cheers always have always will good night at
damu get back to work

2311
02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:03,400
you