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00:01:27,460 --> 00:01:31,080 it's been a long summer for you 18 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:31,420 sorry 19 00:01:31,420 --> 00:01:39,480 uh well it was winter for me because i live in chile right so um i guess you know i didn't have 20 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,520 to worry about making a wood fire every day i guess that was probably like the only benefit 21 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:51,700 of uh not being in my house for three months but yeah great to be back it feels uh nice to be doing 22 00:01:51,700 --> 00:02:00,560 an interview again after a long uh not really necessarily sought out hiatus yeah and you're 23 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,840 ending that hiatus with world war three fuckery starting it's pretty insane out there 24 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:12,560 yeah i mean so much stuff has happened over the past three months it's like been pretty mind-boggling 25 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:18,280 um to watch and also kind of desensitizing because i mean you know i mean as we've talked 26 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:24,240 about before clown world has not uh gone away and has only gotten like more clownish and there's 27 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:31,040 no exit ramps and it's just like instead you we're all descending deeper into the madness i don't know 28 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:39,120 headlines are always crazy and uh it's obviously not getting any crazy uh any less crazy it's just 29 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:47,380 getting crazier so um i have a feeling that trend will continue uh a lot actually i think next year 30 00:02:47,380 --> 00:02:56,520 is going to be fucking wild 2024 also an election year and uh you know uh a lot of weird stuff has been 31 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:07,680 predicted for next year like um economic calamity uh the cyber 9-11 stuff like that so we'll see what 32 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:13,640 happens but uh i definitely think next year's gonna be really spicy yeah i mean the stage is certainly 33 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:23,300 being set we have shit popping off in israel and palestine i've intentionally tried to stay away from 34 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:31,360 it because the fog of war is never a good time like as it's going on to to be making rash takes hot takes 35 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:38,260 and it's just been insane to see vitriol i mean if you're looking for something to divide people 36 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:41,320 something popping off between israel and palestine is definitely that 37 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:49,000 yeah most definitely well so if you so i've been reporting on israel and palestine like for a really 38 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:55,420 long time a lot of my early journalistic career was pretty much like in that space almost not 39 00:03:55,420 --> 00:04:03,600 exclusively but predominantly um the u.s population in particular is like primed to have that be 40 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:12,800 probably one of the most polarizing issues uh period you know and it's very much along the existing like 41 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:20,260 left-right divide but not necessarily you know um but it's uh it's a lot of it is also like baked into 42 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:25,780 the religious landscape of the united states uh you know through christian zionism and a lot of other 43 00:04:25,780 --> 00:04:33,780 stuff and um i don't know i've done a lot on the history of zionism and um a lot about um some of 44 00:04:33,780 --> 00:04:40,160 the messianic movements both like in israel and in the u.s that see um a lot of what's happening 45 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:47,380 happening now oddly enough as necessary for the fulfillment of end times prophecy um and some of 46 00:04:47,380 --> 00:04:53,180 those groups have like a very direct and openly stated posture that they should do absolutely 47 00:04:53,180 --> 00:05:00,040 everything at the that they possibly can to hasten the coming of the end times so that's definitely 48 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:06,060 you know i guess maybe some people view that as conspiratorial thinking and looking at this current 49 00:05:06,060 --> 00:05:11,980 conflict but i mean if you think about it and you have these like world leaders both in israel in the 50 00:05:11,980 --> 00:05:17,320 u.s and elsewhere thinking that certain things need to happen for religious motivations that 51 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:22,360 they care deeply about those are probably going to shape a lot of geopolitical events 52 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:29,080 specifically in this area to a very significant degree and it's been going on for many years if 53 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:35,820 not really centuries and um i don't know i mean i can get more in the weeds um about that if you want 54 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:41,900 because i think honestly one of the big issues as it comes to people understanding this particular 55 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:49,220 conflict is that um not a lot of people have really dug that deeply into the history of zionism 56 00:05:49,220 --> 00:05:54,620 at all and like a lot of people i talked to in the states like when i lived there didn't even realize 57 00:05:54,620 --> 00:06:00,780 that israel's creation as a state happened as recently as 1948 like there's old people that think 58 00:06:00,780 --> 00:06:07,160 it's always been there and don't really get the conflict at all you know so i think you know that um 59 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:13,900 really makes it easy to you know for certain quote-unquote influencers in different spaces to 60 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:19,800 shape narratives that aren't necessarily uh accurate but um you know if you dig deeper into 61 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,820 the history of zionism and also into some of these more like messianic focused movements that are very 62 00:06:24,820 --> 00:06:30,880 intertwined with the political landscape of both the u.s and israel that's probably like the best way 63 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:38,700 to predict how this is going to play out over the next couple months and years yeah yeah with the 64 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:48,260 biblical tilt you have the christians like mike pence here in the u.s who want that temple to be 65 00:06:48,260 --> 00:06:57,360 brought down and then rebuilt which will oh it's not just pence though it's uh uh it's the yeah it's 66 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,620 the christian zionists are very big on the destruction of the dome of the rock or the al-axa 67 00:07:02,620 --> 00:07:09,880 mosque uh for the purpose of the rebuilding of the third temple which is also huge uh with a lot of 68 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:17,480 um i guess segments of israeli society that are in power right now with the current netanyahu led 69 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:26,220 uh coalition some of these um more like extremist settler groups um very into uh the destruction of that 70 00:07:26,220 --> 00:07:31,120 existing structure and this is all about like end time stuff but it's also not just them like if 71 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:40,120 you're uh a subscriber to um the influence of secret societies for example um you know freemasons 72 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:46,340 totally obsessed with the third temple also so there's like all these different uh groups of 73 00:07:46,340 --> 00:07:51,600 varying influence that are very interested in seeing something happen there and see it as a 74 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:58,620 prerequisite to their differing you know but overlapping you know in time theories uh coming 75 00:07:58,620 --> 00:08:06,400 to fruition so um for people that don't know al-axa mosque is i believe one i think it's the third 76 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:12,120 holiest site in islam so if anything happens to that building you're going to have the entire muslim 77 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:19,620 world uh coming after the people who were responsible and uh some of the current people in israel's 78 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:26,300 government um or factions that are now quite heavily represented in their legislature and in 79 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:31,820 in the current administration uh were people that like back in the 1980s were trying to tunnel under 80 00:08:31,820 --> 00:08:38,100 the dome of the rock to blow it up and were considered you know very fringe extremists at that 81 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:43,800 time but now they're not like now they're in power and there's a very um you know it's there's a lot 82 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:51,780 of risk there for sure of having something happen to that building and it'll probably be you know i 83 00:08:51,780 --> 00:08:58,260 i don't really look forward to that happening but it seems almost inevitable just because so many 84 00:08:58,260 --> 00:09:05,980 people think it has to happen for their different you know eschatological you know beliefs to to come 85 00:09:05,980 --> 00:09:11,600 out and i don't know i mean it's just so crazy to talk about because this is like such a level of 86 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:21,680 um i guess uh reality that a lot of people don't think about that like you know people think oh 87 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:27,460 this is confirmation of uh you know what i was taught as a kid in church or whatever like i think 88 00:09:27,460 --> 00:09:33,140 that's how they want people to feel uh because these people have also very openly stated they're 89 00:09:33,140 --> 00:09:38,280 intentionally doing it because they don't want to wait for god to do it they have to do it like that's 90 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:45,200 the theological justification both on the christian and jewish side to make this happen i mean all very 91 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:52,700 very nuts so it's basically like a self-fulfilling prophecy in a sense but it's going to lead to a lot 92 00:09:52,700 --> 00:10:00,700 of uh death and destruction and complete madness and um you know i mean the deeper you go into like 93 00:10:00,700 --> 00:10:05,980 this whole like messianic stuff like the the jewish messiah and the moshiach and all that stuff 94 00:10:05,980 --> 00:10:11,220 um and what that's supposed to mean in both the christian and jewish sense and this idea of like 95 00:10:11,220 --> 00:10:17,480 you know new world order sort of springing from that um yeah i mean it gets it gets pretty nuts 96 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:23,140 when you consider the possibilities of where this could uh go if these people in the driver's seat 97 00:10:23,140 --> 00:10:27,140 trying to you know have a particular vision they're trying to fulfill how successful will they 98 00:10:27,140 --> 00:10:33,080 be in fulfilling that vision i don't know it's worth uh doing some research into what they believe 99 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,380 in what they think needs to happen so one of the things you know they think needs to happen is the 100 00:10:37,380 --> 00:10:41,920 complete expulsion of all palestine of all palestinians from the state of israel you know 101 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:50,040 from the occupied territories in gaza and also you know israel uh you know itself where there's like 102 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:56,020 you know uh palestinian citizens that are israeli citizens but they're of you know they're palestinian 103 00:10:56,020 --> 00:11:03,620 so basically the idea that they all need to be ethnically cleansed essentially uh from the area 104 00:11:03,620 --> 00:11:09,620 and this is like really prominent in christian zionism and you know like you mentioned mike pence 105 00:11:09,620 --> 00:11:16,140 there's a lot of other really powerful people uh that subscribe to that and it's very uh prominent 106 00:11:16,140 --> 00:11:22,160 particularly in the republican party but i mean one of the main organizations directing a lot of this 107 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:28,460 um within the united states is called kufi christians united for israel and uh netanyahu is 108 00:11:28,460 --> 00:11:35,180 described kufi as essential to israel's national security and there's a lot of overlap uh between 109 00:11:35,180 --> 00:11:40,920 the two so definitely um worth exploring that stuff and i actually did a really in-depth piece about all 110 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:46,560 of this stuff that's uh well sourced and probably one of the best articles i've uh written on the subject 111 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:51,860 called the untold history of christian zionism you can find it on mint press news where i used to write 112 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:59,000 um it was part of a longer series but i stopped because uh the abstein thing happened and my whole 113 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:05,220 career kind of changed after that but managed to get this out before all that happened definitely 114 00:12:05,220 --> 00:12:10,580 worth taking the time to look at it in my opinion yeah because this is going to be a really crazy uh 115 00:12:10,580 --> 00:12:16,440 series of events and at least for sure it's very scary the vitriol is at an all-time high 116 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:24,940 you have both sides calling for genocide uh in in that part of the world and it's baffling i've seen 117 00:12:24,940 --> 00:12:30,080 you been tweeting about and i've just been observing again i've been trying to be very intentional not 118 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,700 have any hot takes on the subject because if i'm being completely honest i'd again fog of war 119 00:12:35,700 --> 00:12:41,360 things are going on in real time and i honestly don't know what's happening what intentions are or 120 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:47,940 what any ulterior motives may be but the one observation i have made is that it's just stunning 121 00:12:47,940 --> 00:12:54,440 that everybody's been riled up so successfully and this is coming off the heels of the covid 122 00:12:54,440 --> 00:13:01,180 lockdowns the vaccine mandates the war in ukraine and it's like if you're a puppet master if you were 123 00:13:01,180 --> 00:13:07,940 to envision a puppet master it's like you get uh the covid lockdowns get everybody scared you get the 124 00:13:07,940 --> 00:13:12,200 war in ukraine you get everybody on the left supporting that and then you get this war where 125 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:17,000 you get the neocons supporting what's going on in israel and palestine right now of course 126 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:22,860 and everybody gets what they want well the whole thing about neoconservatives like from their origins 127 00:13:22,860 --> 00:13:30,180 from a political standpoint have consistently been about um basically unifying american foreign policy 128 00:13:30,180 --> 00:13:35,740 and israeli foreign policy like tooling u.s foreign policy to benefit israeli foreign policy 129 00:13:35,740 --> 00:13:42,040 so hence the war in iraq and a lot of other stuff and this goes back to like policy documents written 130 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:50,320 by uh very important figures in that movement like richard pearl his um a clean break uh in the 131 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:56,120 late 90s calling for the removal of saddam hussein and um i mean even people like hillary clinton who 132 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,980 people don't think of as necessarily a neoconservative but sort of very much fulfilling of that pro-war 133 00:14:00,980 --> 00:14:07,720 uh line also in you know leaked emails talked about uh starting uh fomenting the quote-unquote 134 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,780 syrian revolution and all of the you know the proxy war stuff that happened there as a way to benefit 135 00:14:12,780 --> 00:14:19,340 israel explicitly and stuff like that and it's you know there's differing opinions of course as to why 136 00:14:19,340 --> 00:14:25,940 that is of whether it's over due to undue influence of israel over the united states or the u.s seeing israel 137 00:14:25,940 --> 00:14:33,480 as a useful tool to keep the middle east perpetually uh unstable and of course britain uh also being in 138 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:41,560 in that mix uh seeing that as favorable as well um but again you know this is all uh really complicated 139 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,360 stuff and i think what you mentioned earlier about this coming on the heels of covid and people being 140 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:52,380 really riled up so every time uh people get really riled up over something the people that are trying 141 00:14:52,380 --> 00:14:59,380 to hurt us into insane digital enslavement land um use that to their benefit right and it essentially 142 00:14:59,380 --> 00:15:06,040 becomes another um you know opportunity to deploy divide and conquer tactics of course for their 143 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:12,320 benefit and not for ours so um there was a take that i thought was kind of interesting and obviously 144 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:17,080 i'm going to paraphrase here and um i think it was gareth ike that said it but something like you know 145 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:22,020 in any situation well not necessarily any situation but i guess this situation you know people are 146 00:15:22,020 --> 00:15:28,800 really being pushed uh to pick a side you know are you with hamas or are you with the idf but what 147 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,660 we should really do is pick the side of all the you know the innocent civilians who aren't part of 148 00:15:33,660 --> 00:15:39,480 these freaking banker wars and we should just step off the chessboard and stop playing their game 149 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:48,700 and i think that's um you know uh a pretty good take honestly um because you know obviously um 150 00:15:48,700 --> 00:15:55,200 i mean i haven't been following what's happened here super closely but as far as i understand it 151 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:03,140 you know the first uh bloodshed was this rave in southern israel and apparently that was for the 152 00:16:03,140 --> 00:16:10,340 purpose of you know um promoting like peace with the palestinians so like a lot of the people that 153 00:16:10,340 --> 00:16:15,960 were killed there were israelis that for example had chosen not to serve in the idf and things like 154 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:21,660 that you know people that palestinians i think would normally see as allies within israel but then 155 00:16:21,660 --> 00:16:26,820 you have people's you know sort of glorifying that on one side and then of course on the other side 156 00:16:26,820 --> 00:16:35,000 gaza um half of the population of gaza are children you know under the age of 18 and so promoting the 157 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:44,540 carpet bombing of that uh the uh refusal uh to let humanitarian aid in uh bombing people who are 158 00:16:44,540 --> 00:16:50,780 evacuating per idf instructions and all of this stuff i mean there's no celebrating that and there's 159 00:16:50,780 --> 00:16:55,000 this whole return of this mentality of you're either with us or you're with the terrorist stuff 160 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:02,400 you know just like you know the um post 9-11 mentality which is the same mentality a lot of 161 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,840 these same people were criticizing from the left during the covet era you know it's it's come back 162 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,320 and i think unfortunately shows that a lot of people are still very much caught in that that trap 163 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:20,800 and pretty easily manipulated um you know by the the by the powers that be and it's not again you know 164 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:27,500 benefiting any of the regular people here whether it's in israel palestine or somewhere else you know 165 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:32,660 there's just a lot of um you know innocent people that don't want any of this and i would also 166 00:17:32,660 --> 00:17:38,440 encourage people to keep in mind that um israel and also you know hamas and the gaza strip like 167 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:45,640 forced the covid vaccine on the populations that they rule over so you know that's also something to 168 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:51,920 keep in mind and there's a lot of documentation that's come out you know over the years preceding this 169 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:59,520 current conflict of how israel uh wanted hamas to be in control of the gaza strip because they could 170 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:06,960 um treat it as a hostile entity and not have to you know deal with the peace process which you know 171 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:13,680 if you're familiar with um a lot of you know at least the national level is really you know how 172 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:19,800 politics works there uh there's been a consistent effort to sabotage any sort of two-state solution 173 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:26,620 uh for a really uh long time and of course you know the fact that those forces in israel would 174 00:18:26,620 --> 00:18:32,060 want hamas to be in power in the gaza strip suggests that hamas is not the group that is 175 00:18:32,060 --> 00:18:39,720 going to act in the best interests of palestinians or palestinian sovereignty right so um i don't know 176 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,320 those are just some things i'd like to say i guess about the conflict but again you know uh the loss of 177 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,580 human life is always going to be lamentable there but i have a feeling that the pot is only going to 178 00:18:49,580 --> 00:18:55,220 continually uh be stirred because you know a lot of these same groups that you know i brought up 179 00:18:55,220 --> 00:19:00,980 earlier that have this whole uh messianic flavor to everything they do think that we you know there 180 00:19:00,980 --> 00:19:06,940 needs to be a big war between israel and iran uh for the end times and that the dome of the rocks got 181 00:19:06,940 --> 00:19:11,480 to get blown up and all the palestinians have to be removed from israel and all these different 182 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:17,300 things have to happen and uh you have people with major influence over major governments in this 183 00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:22,600 whole conflict whether directly involved right now or in the periphery or soon to be involved you 184 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:28,280 know who feel that way crazy yeah no it's completely insane it's extremely disheartening 185 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:35,620 again to see the vitriol and just the animalistic reaction to this where it's like us versus them 186 00:19:35,620 --> 00:19:42,580 and like you mentioned half the population of gaza 1.1 million of the 2.2 or under the age of 18 187 00:19:42,580 --> 00:19:46,660 and a lot of people have been like oh they're they're all pro hamas they voted them in but it's 188 00:19:46,660 --> 00:19:52,740 like half the population is not a voting age so that doesn't really make sense then you have 189 00:19:52,740 --> 00:20:03,320 the whole like attack on this rave and then getting through the borders which was really perplexing 190 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:08,220 considering uh how tightly secured those borders have been historically most definitely 191 00:20:08,220 --> 00:20:17,200 yeah and the the the comparisons from israel's government saying that this was israel's 9-11 192 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:24,160 hmm and very odd when you like are aware of the extensiveness of israel's you know surveillance 193 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:31,200 capabilities domestically as well as internationally i mean it's just absurd that they wouldn't have been 194 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,960 able to know that was going to happen in advance and there's people that are like you know idf veterans 195 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:42,780 and israelis that definitely are no friends of you know palestine or hamas that are saying that's the 196 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:50,320 case and um you know if you're familiar with the realities of 9-11 um there's only really a few 197 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:58,200 possibilities there either it was intentionally done by you know intelligence agencies or it was allowed 198 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:05,520 to happen by intelligence agencies so i think we can assume that um you know similar possibilities 199 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:10,520 may have happened here with with israel because you know before all of this happened netanyahu was 200 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:17,200 facing like major issues domestically a huge amount of protests against him major efforts to remove him 201 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:24,920 from power um he um he's been trying to stay in power because the justice system this particular 202 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:30,160 attorney has been going after him for corruption for some time and so he teamed up with sort of these 203 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:37,540 far uh sort of like extremist groups i guess that that we touched on earlier as sort of a way like 204 00:21:37,540 --> 00:21:45,220 i'll help you guys get into power if you help me pass this judicial reform legislation that will if it 205 00:21:45,220 --> 00:21:50,660 does pass essentially allow netanyahu to get off the hook uh for the charges he's facing 206 00:21:50,660 --> 00:21:59,140 and um yeah so that conveniently all goes away and now there's a new unity government uh that's 207 00:21:59,140 --> 00:22:07,560 justified by the war and uh oddly um well not oddly but tellingly um the you know polls from within 208 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,580 israel most israelis for everything going on right now blame netanyahu and want him to resign 209 00:22:12,580 --> 00:22:19,720 yeah it's very convenient and again it's the hearkening to 9-11 210 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:25,760 is mind-blowing like on just pattern recognition i was 10 11 when 9-11 happened and 211 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:31,100 witnessed everything that happened got as a fourth grader got pulled into 212 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:37,200 the the war drum beating like they riled us up at our elementary school like we got to go to war we got 213 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,500 to go to war and i just it was on my computer because i wanted to pull up this tweet uh here's 214 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:49,060 the original tweet nobody said on 9-11 america must retaliate proportionally uh both sides need to show 215 00:22:49,060 --> 00:22:53,920 restraint where's the proof of all the dead bodies you were oversimplifying there's context about the 216 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:59,000 conflict you're ignoring let's try to de-escalate the situation and so this is somebody from the israel 217 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:04,820 side saying like no like we we didn't question this during 9-11 like we shouldn't have to question it now 218 00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:11,360 then thomas woods tom woods uh quote tweet that said if only we had spoken and thought like this 219 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:17,780 instead of pointlessly plowing trillions of dollars and killing at least 4.5 million people uh according 220 00:23:17,780 --> 00:23:23,320 to the washington post what we laughingly call the conservative movement is a disgrace so it's just 221 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:31,520 like it feels like what happened after 9-11 is happening again and knowing the aftermath of 9-11 222 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:37,760 and how fucked up it was we lied to get into the wars weapons of mass destruction didn't exist like 223 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:44,240 nobody ever questions the saudi involvement like who was actually driving the planes flying the planes 224 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:50,480 and the patriot act that came after it and led to the dystopian hellscape that we're currently living in 225 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:57,600 and it's just mind-boggling that people can't see the the pattern recognition like it's the same playbook 226 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,200 over again in my mind obviously fog of war things are happening people are dying 227 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:08,340 by the hundreds day in and day out and people are really riled up and unable to see clearly what's 228 00:24:08,340 --> 00:24:14,080 going on but sitting at my desk here in austin texas and observing this from afar it seems pretty 229 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,120 obvious that the playbook is being run back 230 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:24,880 yeah and you know it's actually pretty disturbing to me uh i've talked about this with a couple people 231 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:31,200 that i've worked with in the past like um robbie martin and jeremy lafredo um i i've had some concerns 232 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:37,760 for a while that some of the people that became prominent um as sort of dissidents in the covet 19 era 233 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:46,720 became very cozy or were directly tied to the neoconservatives who came to prominence during the 234 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:53,280 bush era um and were sort of in my opinion trying to bring a lot of you know so think about the 235 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:59,600 maga base right and how sort of trump became popular well trump when he was campaigning in 2015 was very 236 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:08,480 much like took an anti-neocon posture right and not necessarily anti-war but definitely you know less 237 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:15,360 iraq was a mistake for example in and saying things of of that nature and that was very popular and really 238 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:21,200 among you know the republican voting base there was a mass rejection of neocon foreign policy 239 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,880 um and that seems to have changed isn't it and it seems like there's been a lot of uh figures that 240 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:35,600 have sort of regained um the trust of that particular base uh during the covet era and are now currently 241 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:46,080 uh saying we need to go uh to war and bomb the crap out of uh gaza and maybe iran and maybe lebanon 242 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,680 the whole around so something to think about like the lindsey grahams of the world and nikki haley's 243 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,080 coming out and being like we need to go attack iran it's like whoa like they're i don't know how 244 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:01,760 people still vote for lindsey graham that guy is insane he goes on tv and says the most like insane 245 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:07,040 like war pro i just i don't know i don't know how people believe that and like look at that guy and 246 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:12,400 are like that's who i want to vote for unless they're like you know they work for defense contractors or 247 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:22,400 they just have like mush brain you know i just don't get it no yeah 70 year old 70 years old no children 248 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:30,960 just wants to bomb the crap of the world then die and just leave us with the mess yeah man yeah yikes um 249 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:38,160 yeah but anyway uh there's some websites so so some of these neocon guys like frank gaffney 250 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:43,520 people that were tied up with pnac if you're familiar project for a new american century and it's 251 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:51,200 i guess follow-up organization the foreign policy initiative a lot of those people uh got involved 252 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,080 with the stop vaccine passport stuff and even made a website i think it was called like stop 253 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:03,280 vaccinepassports.com or something and um got very like involved with those efforts with covid 254 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,360 and there's a you know a lot of uh you know like a lot of them ended up popping up like frank gaffney 255 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:17,520 in particular on steve bannon's war room pandemic war room stuff right um and sort of rehabilitating 256 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:23,680 some neocon foreign policy but being like oh we're against globalism and digital ids and the 257 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:30,080 vaccine passport you know saying all this stuff that sort of brings that base back and then when 258 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,600 the time is right and the trust is is there they're like and war with iran which is exactly where the 259 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:42,240 bush era neocons were going like after iraq anyway yeah i mean before i don't know before it just seems 260 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:49,840 overly convenient to me so again this is why i uh like to tell people don't have political saviors 261 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:56,240 and please think for yourself because if you just you know outsource your brain okay you're not 262 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:02,080 outsourcing your brain to msm anymore but you're outsourcing your brain to ben shapiro and jordan 263 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:11,040 peterson and um you know steve bannon and people like that you're not necessarily going to get led in a 264 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:16,320 better direction than msm would eventually lead you yeah you got to think for yourself at this point 265 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,720 and you have to slay your heroes if they start leading you astray and it's very obvious that 266 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:26,000 it's happening right now and again going back to the convenience of the timing of it all whether it's 267 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:33,840 the sort of political morass that netanyahu felt found himself in a few months ago or here in the us 268 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,440 we have a financial crisis that's on the verge of of popping off i'm not sure if you've been paying 269 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,720 attention to what's going on there but it's pretty obvious yeah something structurally helps right 270 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:53,760 yes exactly so it's it's all very convenient just similar to covid in 2019 the fall of 2019 it was 271 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,800 becoming glaringly obvious that the financial system was systemically fragile and it's becoming 272 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,880 glaringly obvious that we're back at that point again in the fall of 2023 and like you said war 273 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:12,400 right helps well war traditionally lets the fed print lots and lots of money because it's war we 274 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:20,560 got to do it we got to win the war right so um i think we we can guess um what'll happen there 275 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:29,520 unfortunately not gonna get much better but i i do want to sort of uh circle back for well bring up i 276 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,880 guess some some research i've done uh in the past and was sort of the subject of uh what i talked 277 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:42,560 about at the bitcoin conference um in may so there's like this particular group it's a public private 278 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:49,920 partnership it's housed within the world economic forum the wef but the main um i guess groups that 279 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:58,640 compose this partnership are uh the fbi and the doj and the secret service israel's uh secure one of their 280 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:05,440 security agencies and the uk national crime agency and then a bunch of banks right and then a few tech 281 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:12,640 companies here and there i think uh palantir maybe it's paypal microsoft i mean some of these big guys 282 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:20,960 are there and basically uh they're led by a former uh israeli spy named tal goldstein that used to 283 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:28,960 uh develop a lot of really crazy policies for netanyahu and uh jeremy jurgens who i guess is 284 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:37,040 number two at the wef after klaus schwab at the big wef meeting earlier this year was like yep big giant 285 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:44,320 cyber attack before 2025 and you know the part of the wef wef pack the partnership against cyber crime 286 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:50,960 that's the doj and and all of these guys uh say that it's going to be a cyber attack on the banks 287 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:57,760 hmm isn't that convenient that like the banks can just be like oh well we've collapsed but it wasn't 288 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:04,960 our fault it was the fault of these nasty hackers and i'm sure the hackers will be hamas and iran 289 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:13,040 and you know uh they can blame anyone because as we know from uh vault seven and wikileaks right 290 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:19,920 um the cia has the ability to frame literally any government it wants or any group it wants for a 291 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:26,720 cyber attack and the cia lost control of those tools hence uh wikileaks obtaining them and publishing 292 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:35,840 them and uh you know anyone can do it anyone can blame anyone so it's very difficult to attribute 293 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,200 and even if you look at um headlines about cyber attacks that have happened over the past several 294 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:47,920 years it's usually a cyber security company that if you look on its website was created by nqtel 295 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:54,080 the cia or it was created by israel's unit 8200 which is israel's like nsa equivalent 296 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:02,160 and they're saying stuff like high probability that it might have been these guys and uh our 297 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:07,680 proof is that we don't have any proof but it looks like something they might have done before we think 298 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,560 they did before i mean it's just like there's no evidence for anything but out of you know that googly 299 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:19,760 guck you get a headline that says chinese hackers responsible you know or you know iranian hackers 300 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:26,400 responsible and that's all people see and read right yeah and it's i mean it's very easy to see 301 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,520 that we could be in chapter one of the systemic bank failure where it starts with this conflict 302 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:40,240 in the middle east it keeps rising and then there's an excuse to begin cyber attacking perceived enemies 303 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:46,720 and that's how the banks get attacked so there's this whole there's this whole group of the big 304 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:53,840 banks that's very secretive and it's affiliated with wefpac and they have been gaming this out since like 305 00:32:53,840 --> 00:33:05,040 2021 or so it's a fs isac the financial services information sharing and analysis center and they 306 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:11,440 collaborated with the european central bank the fed the carnegie endowment that at the time was run by 307 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:17,440 the current cia director william burns um talking about exactly how this was going to play out the 308 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:23,600 cyber attack on the banks yeah and i know i sent you this information probably a couple months at 309 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:29,360 this at this point but in parallel to all this going on the bank of international settlements has 310 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,720 been running cbdc trials with partner central banks around the world so they're maybe they're doing that 311 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,760 in parallel the cyber attacks happen and it's like oh thank god we've been running this but 312 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:47,360 but i think they're going to do it a couple different ways to try and uh keep populations 313 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:55,200 uh from rebelling against it in certain countries where there's a growing awareness about cbdc's 314 00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:01,360 so i think it's pretty clear that direct issue cbdc's like as the the bis has laid out 315 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:12,000 are going to or have already happened in basically bricks countries so brazil russia china uh it's all 316 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:18,480 pretty much set up to play out that way just as the bis has uh foretold but i think in some of these 317 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:27,280 countries where the population is more uh wary of cbdc's or obvious centralized control of cbdc's they're 318 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:33,680 going to uh try and keep the two-tier system you know as it exists like right now in the u.s and 319 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:39,840 basically have the cbdc exist but the public doesn't necessarily interact with it which is you know 320 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,200 essentially what fed now is going to be right um it's about settlements like between banks and 321 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:51,760 they'll use the cbdc and then they'll the public will interact instead with deposit tokens and that'll 322 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,800 be issued by the commercial banks and that's what the public will interact with and they're not called 323 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:03,520 cbdc's but they're programmable money and they're going to run on the rails of fed now and it's really 324 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:10,000 not that different of a system but they can you know oh i have my jp morgan deposit tokens and i have 325 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:17,120 my citibank deposit tokens and i have my wells fargo deposit tokens and it's not a cbdc right 326 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:26,720 it's uh it's an abstracted uh white label cbdc if you will yeah well if you look at the big banks in 327 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:33,760 the us they're all in and deposit tokens and tokenized assets jp morgan all in and they're 328 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:40,720 you know the banks that who are the banks that run the fed right so i mean the most powerful fed bank 329 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:48,640 is the the one in new york right and the main you know shareholders of that bank it's city and jp 330 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:55,280 morgan and the head of jp morgan of course is jamie diamond and the person who essentially created 331 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:02,800 citibank jamie diamond um so it's basically the same crowd uh that decides what goes on there 332 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:10,000 and uh i mean if you've been looking at what jamie diamond has been saying uh recently you know about 333 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,920 stuff like we should seize private private property for the purpose of combating climate change you want 334 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:22,480 these banks to be able to issue programmable money like it doesn't have to be a cbdc issued by the fed 335 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:30,080 to like have the same consequences you know what i mean no i mean you could argue the way the 336 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,920 financial system system set up now like it practically already exists like being just unperson anybody 337 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:44,800 yeah and totally they have yeah it happened to what mercola and uh in his banks they got d 338 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:51,760 platform from chase without any warning yeah i mean obviously we had russell brand didn't get debanked but 339 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:59,280 got kicked off of youtube we had nigel farage in the uk had his bank accounts ripped out from under him 340 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:10,000 it's totally possible right now it's just um not as popular i guess a cbdc like um system would make 341 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,920 it easier but i think it's totally possible today it's just not politically palatable 342 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:20,560 for most people right well i mean i think in the us again it's they're going to try and set it up a 343 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,000 different way than they're they're like running it in china and russia and some of these bricks countries 344 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,920 which are much more you know the multi-polar world order you know that crowd or whatever are a lot of 345 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:38,240 them seem to be favoring the direct issue cbdc but you know you've already had like you know some 346 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:43,360 statements from the fed about like a wariness toward a cbdc that some people have sort of taken 347 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:51,440 as proof as proof for some mystical like trust the fed q a q anon equivalent thing that jerome 348 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,880 powell and jamie diamond are like actually our friends um and like no i think that just means 349 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:03,440 that they know that a lot of people in the u.s would resist a cbdc direct issued uh you know a 350 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:10,080 push for that system and so they're gonna create essentially the same system in a way that seems 351 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:15,920 a little more palatable or at least not as obvious or at least more analogous to the current system 352 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:22,240 right yeah yeah there's a theory out there it's being popularized by tom luongo i like i've had on 353 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:29,600 this show but he's convinced that the fed uh via their interest rate policy and being directed by 354 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,480 the big banks here in the u.s is essentially attacking the davos class by trying to collapse 355 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:40,880 the european banking system um by draining the euro dollar system with this high interest rate regime 356 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:48,960 yeah i'm familiar and he apparently doesn't like what i have to say about this i've been told but um 357 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:54,800 rule number one for me is never trust the bankers and never trust the fed and i'm going to stick by 358 00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:01,600 that that's a good rule uh because it's worked really well for me so far so um you know i don't 359 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:10,640 think jamie diamond and the and jerome powell play 3d and 5d chess i don't um i think you know essentially 360 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:16,320 the world as it is now i think it's a lot more run by transnational capital than a lot of people would 361 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:22,560 like to think you know and i think that's why you end up seeing commonalities for example with covid 362 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:29,920 you know why is uh why did the us go all in for a lot of the same covid policies and draconian uh 363 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,880 you know lockdowns and restrictions of civil liberties that happened in russia and china 364 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:41,440 in the entire world obviously there's a lot more that the elite agree on than they disagree on when it 365 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:48,400 comes to uh you know keeping their respective populations under the boot right yeah and and why 366 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:54,320 did they all seem to get together at these globalist um groups like davos and what have you 367 00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:02,560 you know jackson hall builderberg but yeah no it's right it seems like if the end goal is to confuse 368 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:10,000 and instill fear in the global population to cattle herd them into this system like it's 369 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:16,240 it's happening in real time so you can believe that the fed and the commercial banks here in 370 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:21,200 the us are attacking europe use that as like a diversion tactic to be like no they're on our side 371 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,280 and just everybody placated and um sort of believing that that's the truth and then at the end of the 372 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:34,160 the day they're all just like haha yeah trust the plan is now trust the fed um i'm not a believer 373 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:41,360 sorry um yeah but i i do want to point out that you know we are really in unprecedented times and 374 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,640 there's obviously going to be a lot of big shifts and they're probably going to happen in 375 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,720 the next one to two years so that cyber attack we were talking about earlier once that happens uh 376 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:55,760 they're going to push for and they've already mapped it out the end of both online and financial 377 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:03,600 anonymity so if you're you know talking about cbdc's or any sort of cbdc equivalent system 378 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:10,560 you know essentially you know kyc right that's all going to be forced on everybody for everything 379 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:16,480 and anything that doesn't have that or affords any sort of financial privacy or anonymity will be made 380 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:25,360 illegal under national security justifications so we can expect a cyber patriot act to come after this 381 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,600 event yeah that's going to have that stuff in it because they've already mapped out the policy 382 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:37,680 and then of course the end of online anonymity means tying a government issued id uh to your internet 383 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:45,280 access and having internet access you know require that at the isp level and that's what they've mapped 384 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:54,480 out to do it's extremely terrifying the internet as you know it now will not exist after this happens 385 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,920 right and you'll you know what they'll say is oh you want to be allowed to be back online you know 386 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:05,120 you have to get this id which of course is going to be some sort of digital id equivalent 387 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:12,000 you know since they're pushing for all of this with the cbdc's at the same time right but the goal is no 388 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:18,080 anonymity period and to have everything you do surveilled and compiled and uh you know have ai 389 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:26,480 oversee it all and do all this predictive policing um pre-crime stuff based on what you've already done 390 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,440 and what you will do so essentially the most important thing to do is not to participate 391 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:38,400 in the system after that event just don't do it so i would say if you want some of the stuff that's 392 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:46,080 like on the internet now in terms of like knowledge back that up offline download it put it on hard 393 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:53,920 drives faraday bag it keep it you know safe because if you might want that stuff after all this happens 394 00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,320 and you don't want to have to you know get the cattle tag to be able to be online you know you 395 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,040 definitely think ahead because if you want to believe what the weff says about this timeline 396 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:12,080 on this stuff which is i would take them seriously um you know you've got like a year give or take a 397 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:20,080 few months before the internet gets uh you know nuked basically completely cucked now that you 398 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:25,200 mentioned that like the timeline of everything like going all the way back to covid ukraine russia 399 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,040 and then this time last year you had the emergence of what many people would describe as the first 400 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:38,640 consumer ready ai applications then you have this pop off in the middle east the banking crisis 401 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,360 happening in parallel like everything is just lining up almost too perfectly 402 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:52,960 yeah there's there's a lot lining up and it's it's it's not good but the good thing is that you know 403 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,400 the more you look at the stuff the more you can think about solutions right so definitely want to talk 404 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,920 about that in a second i'm going to drink some water really quick so i don't cough everywhere sorry 405 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:12,320 i've been kind of sick for a week or two um yeah so a lot of crazy stuff going on right now is 406 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:18,000 happening thanks to or at least it's being enabled by in a huge way by big tech so i'll give some 407 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,840 examples um before we talk about like ai in in general because i'm writing a piece on that that i think is 408 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:29,600 pretty important but microsoft you know over the last three months i forget exactly when because 409 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:36,960 i've sort of uh been in an offline bubble a lot of the time with my with my son but um they essentially 410 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:43,760 came out and said like all right you use a microsoft you know windows machine um your data is not your data 411 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:50,400 anymore and we can we're gonna take your data whenever we want off the machine and train our ai on 412 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:59,280 it and you can't opt out and if we decide to we can just delete your data or block you from accessing 413 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:07,280 your device by blocking your microsoft id or whatever so if you're using a windows machine your 414 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:15,280 data is not your data and if you're serious about fighting this stuff you have no excuse to not invest 415 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:21,520 in some sort of freedom tech stuff so i definitely think people particularly like in the bitcoin space 416 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:27,360 uh need to put a lot more attention considering what we're facing on freedom tech and supporting 417 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:36,160 developers that are uh developing that tech yeah i'm not sure if you're sure aware of the project but 418 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:42,880 uh start os is basically a linux-based system that's trying to create a new operating system 419 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:51,840 external to microsoft and apple that people can can use and use open source software products to 420 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:59,120 to run their their lives to use something like nextcloud instead of dropbox and um have jitsi instead of 421 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:06,560 zoom right yeah well i think you know i i think even jitsi like got rid of their anonymity function 422 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:13,600 recently too like a lot of these are under attack yeah um so i think you know there's a huge need 423 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,600 for to divest from big tech as much as possible and it needs to happen quickly because unless you 424 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:24,800 you know the choice is either participate in the system being designed for you by the crazy people 425 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:31,200 and become a slave or don't become a slave right so if you don't want to be a slave you have to invest 426 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,880 now and making in in big tech alternatives unless you want to live a completely analog 427 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:43,280 life right yeah and so if you don't think it's practical for you to live an analog life 428 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:50,720 you got to find something that works that isn't these guys yeah and it's it's not easy it's hard 429 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:58,080 like running start os getting uh a private public key pair set up on nostr and interacting with those 430 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,720 different clients it's definitely harder it's more rough around the edges but it's getting better 431 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:09,680 and if you shift the development talent particularly to focus on these areas i think you can reach 432 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:15,680 parity with big tech in terms of being able to do on your computer and interact on social networks 433 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:21,040 like totally in the incumbent system well here's the thing people people are lazy and like don't want 434 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:26,640 to have to learn how to do something new or something that like maybe has two steps more than what 435 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:32,240 they used before i mean people have to get over that you know it's not going to be the easiest 436 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:37,040 route is to go the slavery route and that's how they've designed it on purpose the whole selling 437 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,840 point of that system is that it's convenient and easy so obviously it's going to take some work 438 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:48,560 uh to go the other route but uh yeah i mean the future of human freedom depends on it so i think 439 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:54,080 it's a pretty easy choice and if you have to do some you know tutorials or whatever why the internet is 440 00:47:54,080 --> 00:48:01,760 still like sort of functioning the way it it should function to an extent in terms of like democratizing 441 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:08,400 access to information like let's please do that and not be like oh man i wish i did that now that 442 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:14,800 they've uh you know screwed the whole internet over and i have to get a digital id if i want to be online 443 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:22,160 anymore you know yeah like now is the time now is the time and not enough people are are talking about it 444 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:27,680 or are focused on solutions and i think you know that's one of the major problems in independent 445 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:35,200 media right now just in general is that it's all um about clicks and who's going to watch my stuff 446 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:40,880 and talking about stuff that's going to keep my audience like sucked in i guess and not necessarily 447 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:47,360 so much about like how do we get out of this and if you want to think that this timeline or you know if 448 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:52,320 it seems to you like it does to me the the timeline for action is getting increasingly small 449 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,000 we got to start doing stuff and we got to start talking about how to do that that stuff and if 450 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:03,920 you don't have like the developing you know the programming know-how or whatever there are people 451 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:12,480 that do right and you can support them or you can learn yeah and divest somehow i mean for people that 452 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:20,160 don't want to do that too you know there's um there's options like uh ramiro romani runs a above 453 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:26,000 phone and they make de-googled smartphones ready to go super easy you can buy it from his website 454 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,320 they're making laptops now for people that don't want to have to invest the time and like putting 455 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:37,040 graphene os on a phone themselves or you know learning you know all this you know learning a linux 456 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:42,720 necessarily like they make it really easy and and there's you know there's never been a better time 457 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:47,040 to do that than now because you know if you see where microsoft's going you're not going to be able 458 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:55,200 to keep access to your own data unless you know you avoid committing thought crime for microsoft i mean 459 00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:01,520 that's just nuts no no continue mapping this out for people like going back to start os it's created by 460 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:07,440 a company called start nine labs and they're essentially creating an operating system that'll 461 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,320 allow you to self-host all of your stuff so you'll have a server at your house they partner with purism 462 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,840 to get their operating system out of the box you can buy one of the purism laptops if you want to you 463 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:26,640 can buy a purism server plug it in and then it's plug and play you get the d google d apple d microsoft 464 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:33,760 software suite and then you can host all of your data on your own machine your pictures your files 465 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:39,280 you don't have to send it to the cloud and feed the ai superstructure that's trying to take your life over 466 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:48,960 man and the ai stuff is legit insane so um catherine austin fitz who runs the solari report 467 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:55,840 um and is awesome in general and has done a lot of great interviews about cbdcs and the bis and all of 468 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:04,400 that um asked me to write a piece for uh their new issue on artificial intelligence and so i decided 469 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,680 to write about something i've wanted to do for a while though it's kind of torturous which is uh to 470 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:20,000 read uh the book on ai written by henry kissinger and former google ceo eric schmidt and you know i 471 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,760 wasn't really surprised for what i found it's fucking nuts um and so my piece for them is 472 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:31,840 titled the final coup uh because i think that's really what it is so you know henry kissinger what 473 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:37,520 is his whole career been really so he ran the state department and he was like you know an operator for 474 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:43,200 groups like the trilateral commission and a lot of these other entities that want like global technocracy 475 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:51,520 as sort of designed by groups like the rockefellers you know for uh for quite a long time and uh at the 476 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:58,960 state department you know sort of turned uh using the state department into an uh an engine for coup 477 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,840 detas you know into an art form and then of course he leaves the state department but essentially trains 478 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:09,200 up most of the other subsequent secretaries of state including people uh like hillary clinton for 479 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:16,800 example um among others of course who then go on and uh do regime change so you know he's a coup guy 480 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,800 you know uh and definitely very into real politic and all of these things and a war criminal and 481 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:28,720 obviously doesn't um care about the little people i think one of his more infamous quotes is about 482 00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:35,040 you know calling us soldiers like dumb beasts that are like pawns for the people that actually uh you 483 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:40,960 know decide what happens in the world so uh definitely an elitist worldview and you also 484 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:47,840 find that in this book um and it's crazy so i mean it basically um there's all these different parts to 485 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:53,600 it i guess but essentially their argument is something like ai is going to be so much smarter 486 00:52:53,600 --> 00:53:00,800 than us that it's going to be able to see aspects of reality that we can't see but we should definitely 487 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:07,120 trust that whatever it tells us is in this invisible hidden reality is totally reality and 488 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:13,600 not just some ai hallucination which is like an actual term like that's a real phenomenon where ai 489 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:20,800 presents something totally false and provably false as fact right so it can very easily be you know 490 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:28,720 whatever this quote unquote reality is that ai is identifying uh is a is delusional or just made up it 491 00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:34,320 only exists in the mind quote unquote of the ai right so anyway they're they don't bring that up 492 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:41,680 in their book at all they just say ai is going to allow us to uh pursue this awesome quest for 493 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:48,240 super knowledge and we're going to be able to see unseen realities but there's a trade-off they say 494 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:55,920 and the trade-off is that in order to unlock ai's full potential we have to essentially sell off our 495 00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:04,400 ability to perceive reality and we have to use ai as we're using you know as not just as we're using 496 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:10,400 it using it now but deepen that involvement to the point where we're essentially uh dependent on ai to 497 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:19,840 make decisions for us and we become cognitively diminished by ai meaning that um you know we aren't 498 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:26,880 using our brains like we did before to make decisions and reason and perceive reality and so 499 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:34,240 ai the machine is doing all of that for us that's sort of what they envision and that's very dystopian 500 00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:41,200 but then you read on and they start essentially talking about this two-tier society model so basically 501 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:47,200 they're like well this ai quote-unquote revolution will be very empowering for some people 502 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:54,080 you know the policy makers uh the heads of multinational corporations the people who 503 00:54:54,080 --> 00:55:01,440 design ai and code it and task it and regulate it they'll find this very empowering but then the 504 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:08,160 people who you know consume ai from you know the consumer level um or just sort of you know not part 505 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:16,800 of that other tier everyone else really uh will be bewildered by its opaque decision making and uh you know 506 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:22,560 will be disempowered or find it disconcerting and won't really have any control over their lives 507 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:28,800 anymore and then over time will cease to be able to realize what's happening to them and uh i mean that's 508 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:35,520 that's literally what the book is about that's very nuts and talks about you know ai is basically going 509 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:44,800 to draw people mainly this disempowered class into a new version of reality that is essentially being 510 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:53,600 designed by the empowered class right the technocrats i guess you could call them it's very like matrix-esque 511 00:55:53,600 --> 00:56:00,080 um and very creepy and a lot of it also has to do with what they say is going to be ai control over 512 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:06,400 the information space and of course that's going to really come into its own once both ai and the 513 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:12,480 internet are heavily regulated by a centralized authority which is what the un is gearing up to do 514 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:20,000 next year what do you know what are they gearing up to like set the set the rules for all right 515 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:26,240 here's how you interact with it because yes for ai for everyone globally a new un agency and it's 516 00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:34,080 backed by all the big ai companies like sam altman's open ai among others it's completely disgusting one 517 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:42,560 centralized authority to control all ai and um you know the goal is to have this ai uh not just 518 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:49,360 sensor information like it's doing now on social media for example uh they want it to basically write 519 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:55,200 all of the all of the information so basically people will be you know on the new internet you know 520 00:56:55,200 --> 00:57:01,280 they'll be consuming information but it'll all be written by ai essentially that's like essentially 521 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:08,640 what they want to do as they map it out have it like um basically shape people's minds and make 522 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:14,800 people uh control how people receive reality by dominating the information space and all the 523 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:19,680 information people have access to and like everything they see and do hence the whole like push into 524 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:24,880 augmented reality neural link i mean that's like the final phase i guess of all of this 525 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:30,960 but um you know it's to basically deepen our dependence on this stuff and have the algorithm 526 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,760 continue to choose for us to a point where we don't even know how to choose for ourselves anymore 527 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:42,720 but again that's for the plebs there's this other class that's going to be cognitively enhanced and be 528 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:50,560 making all the decisions and directing how you know ai develops and whatever have you been following the 529 00:57:50,560 --> 00:58:00,640 debate between closed source of uh ai and open source ai no not really so the idea is that there's a 530 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:08,000 battle within ai right now is if ai is here and it's going to be here moving forward we're at a critical 531 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:14,640 point in the history of artificial intelligence where we really need open source large language 532 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:23,280 models and um training models to out compete the open ais microsoft googles of the world and essentially 533 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:32,640 give the plebs uh the power of ai hosted on their own servers um so that they can avoid the walled garden 534 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,920 closed source structure provided by the open ais of the world it's very confusing because 535 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:44,640 it's open ai but it's closed source um yeah you have this you have like sam altman and 536 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:50,000 google and microsoft going in front of congress a few months ago and basically saying yes please 537 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,520 regulate us let us create this regulatory mode so that we are the gatekeepers of artificial intelligence 538 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:03,680 yeah anytime the the private super powerful corporate world goes like regulate me harder 539 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:11,920 daddy in front of congress you know there is fuckery afoot for sure um i mean basically what you have to 540 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:18,080 keep in mind here and a lot of people forget this too silicon valley pretty much all of those main 541 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:25,200 companies uh were made by like intelligence services or the military or with funding from one or two or if 542 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:31,600 they weren't initially are now contractors and all intertwined with the national security state 543 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:38,800 so okay um i mean that's why we have these things like people now getting upset about facebook censoring 544 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:44,960 stuff but facebook you know was essentially tied up with darpa and you know the cia through peter thiel 545 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:50,000 uh from from the very beginning right so is it really that surprising that they would censor on 546 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,600 behalf of the state no they're an independent private company no that's like a total uh that's 547 00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:01,280 a lie like the whole thing about silicon valley being all these like humble entrepreneurs tinkering 548 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:07,360 around in their garage and look at what we've made with the american entrepreneurial spirit i mean 549 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:13,360 that's such bullshit like if you look into any of these big companies uh you always had you know 550 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:19,440 these powerful entities of the state there and so there are extensions of state power even if you 551 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,400 want to think that they weren't necessarily at the origins you can't deny that now i mean they fused 552 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:29,280 essentially that's why you have people like eric schmidt which is why reading this book is really 553 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:35,760 important this is the most influential guy on ai policy in the us right now he's funding salaries of 554 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:41,920 like all of the biden administration's top ai people it's totally illegal for him to do that 555 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:47,440 but he's doing it and even like mainstream media like politico's reporting on it and nothing's happened 556 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:54,080 it's crazy it's just he's in charge and he ran the national security commission on ai uh which 557 01:00:54,080 --> 01:01:00,320 basically laid out all of the policies and that commission was this the cia uh and people tied up 558 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:05,440 with the cia like former heads of n-q-tel that are very close friends of schmidt uh military 559 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,520 people that are also tied up with schmidt because he used to be head of the not the head but used 560 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:14,720 to be involved with the defense innovation board and uh and then you know the big silicon valley 561 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:21,040 companies amazon microsoft um all of those guys deciding what happens i mean they're really the same 562 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:27,600 entity at this point because they're all either military intelligence contractors um and you can't 563 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:32,160 really decide where one ends and the other one ends and you have all of these silicon valley 564 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:37,280 billionaires you know they fund congress essentially at this point or the dnc or the rnc 565 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:45,200 so um you know the national security state silicon valley blob is what runs the us and they're gonna 566 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:52,480 have their ai and so they're really i think what's going on now in terms of the battles of ai well i mean 567 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:59,760 sure there's this open source component but there also is this competition over like which uh elite 568 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:05,280 faction you know essentially you know there's this blob in the us and there's also like a bricks blob 569 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:11,040 i guess you know like in china for example of their tech companies you know who's gonna get their ai 570 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:17,120 adopted by uh emerging markets in the global south and that's where a lot of the focus is is to do all 571 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:25,680 this stuff you know in latin america africa um southeast asia um it's um yeah i don't know definitely 572 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:30,800 something to uh to look at there in terms of the dynamics because they talk pretty openly about it 573 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:37,520 but the justification that you know these groups uh like schmidt's group give for um you know winning 574 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:45,760 that factional battle is uh in order to beat china we have to become china and we have to compete with 575 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:55,520 china's uh what they call the china's civil military fusion model which is you know um civilian sector the 576 01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:01,920 private sector and the military are fused in china they're working together towards this goal so you 577 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:10,000 know the us has to follow develop a model equivalent to that which is um that is fascism that is straight 578 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:17,440 up fascism guys um and that is what eric schmidt who is basically uh one of the people puppeteering the 579 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:25,680 biden administration because obviously joe biden is not in charge of um you know is that's what he 580 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:32,320 wants to do with the us and i was gonna say now that you mentioned it's pretty hilarious because 581 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:37,840 the effort that the government's putting in to put up a facade that there is some separation between 582 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,160 the government and the private sector it's like kamala harris is our ai czar it's like what 583 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:51,440 like what the fuck does she know about ai no no i mean you know yeah that that's that's nuts um 584 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,240 yeah the ai czar is actually eric schmidt they just won't tell you because he's funding all their 585 01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:03,440 experts and like developing all the policies with like his people it's like he's like single-handedly 586 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:08,160 funding most of the federation of american scientists and stuff i mean it's just unreal 587 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:13,760 uh but then at the same time you know you have the schmidt crowd and then you have the peter thiel 588 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:20,240 crowd right and the peter thiel crowd is very involved in the development of this um ai weapon 589 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:25,040 and ai surveillance technology they've been testing a lot of it out in ukraine and are going to be 590 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:31,760 testing it out in the middle east now for sure yeah and i i saw in your newsletter wasn't you wrote an 591 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:38,800 article about it but um i can't recall her name but it was diving into andrew stravula uh pabst yeah 592 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:46,880 yes and um yeah andrew palmer lucky who created oculus went and started this private defense company 593 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:52,560 and yeah well palmer lucky was a thiel fellow right so we got a bunch of money from peter thiel and then 594 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:57,840 he makes oculus rift and then it gets bought by facebook where peter thiel has been sort of directing 595 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:02,400 at least in the early days was very involved in directing stuff as their first big investor and 596 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:08,720 at the same time he was making the cia front otherwise known as palantir um yeah a lot of 597 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:16,880 interesting stuff happening there obviously and now uh palmer lucky is uh running andurl which is um 598 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:23,120 you know making a lot of this ai weapon stuff for the military but also a lot of it has been already 599 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:30,720 set up that tech on the us mexico border to like basically autonomously uh you know do border control 600 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:36,640 stuff and they're not stopping people from coming in so it's very possible that it's mainly there to 601 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,960 stop people from leaving at some point not to black pill people but um 602 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:49,680 oh sorry no because it's funny because i was at an event a few weeks ago and andurl 603 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,840 there's a point of topic and the way it's being pitched is like hey if you're conservative you 604 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:59,680 don't like the big military budget andurl is going to be able to accomplish what the us military can 605 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:06,240 accomplish with two percent of the budget and that's how people yeah autonomous drones that um 606 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:11,920 you know don't really have that much human oversight and i mean that the ukrainian military is doing that 607 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:17,600 now i don't think it's necessarily with andurl drones even though andurl drones are like used by the 608 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:24,320 ukrainian military but they're like uh all they've gotten rid of human oversight on some of their drone 609 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:31,360 attacks now that is so bad i mean that's like skynet level crap um we should not be supporting that and 610 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:37,280 i mean i don't know i think it's silly that there's like libertarian leaning people that fall for this 611 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:42,640 because it's like aren't you empowering the state with like doom weapons like shouldn't you not 612 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:52,640 um but it's cheaper i don't know it's cheaper we save tax money yeah well i mean i know well they 613 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:58,560 always have their pitch right it's cheaper it's easier it's more convenient but what will you lose 614 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:10,480 um over war um the ai deciding who lives and who dies and okay i i don't like that trade-off 615 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:16,320 personally and also i mean the wars why aren't people remembering that the whole point is that 616 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:24,880 uh the wars are banker wars so like oh okay the banker wars will be cheaper what a win you know i 617 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:31,680 don't really see that as being good why don't we uh destroy the bankers and then their wars will stop 618 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:36,880 well that's uh i watched the 45-minute documentary on the banker wars after 619 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:41,920 shit started popping up in israel and palestine i forget it was in that or continued falling down 620 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,600 a rabbit hole but you mentioned it in the beginning of the show we should probably get back to like the 621 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:50,800 origins of zionism was you had mayor rothschild or one of the rothschilds 622 01:07:52,160 --> 01:08:00,240 at the beginning let's go back farther so again go to mintpressnews.com search for my old article the 623 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:05,520 untold uh i think untold story or untold history of christian zionism that's one of the two 624 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:16,560 um so christian zionism and really christian zionism precedes zionism zionism yeah so the 625 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:22,800 founding father of zionism sorry my cough keeps coming back um the founding father of zionism 626 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:29,040 is theodore herzel who wrote this book called the jewish state um i don't know i was either the end of 627 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:35,440 the 19th century or early 20th century but the puritans back in the 17th century in britain 628 01:08:35,440 --> 01:08:44,080 and then later in the american colonies uh were calling for um a jewish ethno state in palestine 629 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:52,480 back then as an as a necessary requisite to fulfill uh end times prophecy so that basically we need to 630 01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:59,440 make this happen so jesus will come back that was the uh mentality there and then you know it didn't 631 01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:04,000 really get that far with the puritans alone but then you have this one guy come on the scene 632 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:12,560 who's a british preacher john nelson darby i think is his name if i remember correctly sorry i mean i 633 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,760 wrote about this stuff a few years ago so i don't make get a little weird on the names but he basically 634 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:23,680 developed um i think it's called christian dispensationalism which sort of divides history 635 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:29,760 into different eras like so now we're in the messianic era and all of that and he also developed 636 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:38,320 uh the rapture as a as a thing so you know the rapture is very common in american christianity but 637 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:44,160 it didn't exist until the early 1800s no one believed in it before and it has no scriptural basis 638 01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:49,360 it doesn't there's no scriptural basis for the rapture in the bible there's nothing that says it 639 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:54,880 anywhere just letting people know because there's a lot of people that are like in this messianic 640 01:09:54,880 --> 01:10:00,720 movement within christian zionism oh we have to all this stuff has to be happened to be fulfilled 641 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:07,280 because once it happens you know there will be uh the the third temple when it's there will trigger 642 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:12,560 the beginning of the tribulation and the rapture has to happen before the tribulation so we won't be 643 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:18,160 here and we won't have to suffer all this stuff that we helped create um okay but no one believed 644 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:23,520 in the rapture until the 1800s and it was this one guy in his church that developed it so uh it's not 645 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:30,080 in the bible so um try not to make hell on earth please that's what i'm trying to get out there 646 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:35,600 anyway um so this guy became really influential and it kind of spread all over the place and you 647 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:41,760 basically had a couple different things happen um in the 1800s but one that's really important is that 648 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:49,360 you start having like um elite people in america and britain uh getting really involved with this 649 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:57,520 idea of an ethno state uh a jewish ethno state in palestine and it was at the time completely rejected by 650 01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:06,720 the jewish community globally really not into it at all and um so you had there's this one rabbi that 651 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:13,520 was sort of into it uh kalischer is his last name and he sort of developed this uh movement but it was 652 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:19,920 very fringe at the time in judaism that we can't wait for god to fulfill the messianic era so we have 653 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:26,800 to hasten the coming of the jewish messiah um and this is this sort of torch has been picked up since by 654 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:33,040 the chabad lubovitch movement which is very very influential by the way um so for example in the trump 655 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:37,840 administration you have mike pence and you have mike pompeo but jared kushner is very tied up with 656 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:43,760 the chabad lubovitch movement so is netanyahu so is robert maxwell and a lot of different powerful 657 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:50,240 actors over the years anyway getting ahead of myself sorry so um kalischer wrote a letter in like 658 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:57,840 1830 something to one of the rothschilds yeah and then the guy charles taze russell that later 659 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:04,720 creates this church that becomes the jehovah's witnesses uh also writes to the rothschilds 660 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:11,280 asking for an ethno state in palestine and uh there's a few of these letters that are written 661 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:18,000 and then eventually you get the balfour declaration in like 1917 but before then you get something called 662 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:23,520 the blackstone memorial which is like at the end of the 1800s you have a letter from some of the most 663 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:28,000 powerful people in the united states none of them jewish really well there might have been a you know 664 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:33,840 out of a hundred something signatories like a handful of jewish people um calling uh it was 665 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:38,880 written to the secretary of state of the u.s at the time i forget who was president um but they're 666 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:43,360 calling for the establishment of the state in palestine and this is all before theater herzel right 667 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:51,360 was even around and the people that signed that blackstone memorial it's jp morgan jd rockefeller 668 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:58,480 members of congress mayors of new york and boston uh supreme court justices i mean like super powerful 669 01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:05,360 people they're all you know wasps they're not jewish people right and they're saying we need this to 670 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:13,120 happen and then if you look into the history of theodore herzel himself his whole movement was shaped by 671 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:21,280 a british guy who i think was uh stationed at uh the british embassy in austria william heckler 672 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:27,920 who was like a total i mean he's a freemason totally obsessed with the third temple had like 673 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:35,280 replicas of the third temple and in his office was just totally obsessed with it um and felt like 674 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:40,160 the ethno state and jewish ethno state in palestine had to happen for the end times he's the guy that 675 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:46,880 like gets uh sort of mentors herzel in some ways connects him with powerful political people specifically 676 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:54,960 like in germany and in that part of europe and like basically gives his movement the early zionist 677 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:59,120 movement political legitimacy which of course later develops and then you have powerful people 678 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:05,360 in countries around the world europe and also the us people like lewis brandeis for example who are 679 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:11,200 jewish who become very involved in the zionist movement but it took a while for people who were 680 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:17,280 actually jewish to want the ethno state in palestine and you don't really have mass support for it in 681 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:23,440 the jewish community until after world war ii so there's a lot of powerful actors that wanted this 682 01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:31,120 to happen for very particular reasons uh a long long time ago and not necessarily because they think 683 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:39,040 it's best for the jewish community so again definitely go and read that article because i mean i'm just 684 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:43,520 paraphrasing it and i wrote it four years ago you know but this history is really important because 685 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:50,560 you have a lot of people who still feel that way guiding current events and it's not for the benefit 686 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:57,680 of jewish people or for the palestinians or for christians or any of these people you know it's 687 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:04,800 an obsession with the apocalypse and people really need to look into this because um 688 01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:12,160 i personally don't want to have uh the apocalypse happen and blow up everything because people think 689 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:19,680 it's gonna uh bring their messiah back well yeah it's yeah it's a self-fulfilling prophecy with uh 690 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:25,600 no good outcome it's this whole thing of like let's play god i mean you see it with transhumanism too 691 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:33,120 let's become the gods now and then these other people in this arena are like well let's not wait for god to 692 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:39,440 do it let's take matters into our own hands and force him to do stuff it doesn't work that way guys 693 01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:44,240 yeah i'm just envisioning the domino meme where it's like some dude invents the idea of the rapture 694 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:50,000 in the 17th century and then the big domino is like nuclear holocaust in 2024 or something like that 695 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:56,240 well it's like sad because there are like so many people that are like it doesn't matter all the 696 01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:02,640 bloodshed in israel and palestine and what happens is a consequence of it in world war three let's 697 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:08,480 support all of that because i'm gonna get raptured out of here dude it's not in the bible this one guy 698 01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:15,200 made it up and if you look into him he was like not a normal dude yeah and um i guess one figure i 699 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:20,080 didn't really bring up in terms of the christian zionism thing was the guy that really popularized that 700 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:26,480 outside like among the masses so before this view right you know jd rockefeller jp morgan it was like 701 01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:33,760 very among the american elites and there's also a lot of overlap with freemasonry so charles taze 702 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:39,760 russell who i mentioned earlier the guy that you know helped create the jehovah's witnesses um look 703 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:46,240 up where he's buried and what his tombstone looks like just leave it there um definitely an interesting 704 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:52,480 fellow who uh happens to be buried under a giant masonic pyramid wait what was his name whatever 705 01:16:52,480 --> 01:17:00,160 james um charles uh charles taze russell t-a-z-e charles taze look up the the tomb 706 01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:07,440 logan we're gonna pull yeah he would give like these big speeches to christians and jews alike 707 01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:14,000 saying we got to make a jewish ethnostate in palestine like in at the end of the 19th century 708 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:19,680 and stuff i mean people overlook this stuff but i mean these are definitely influential people but 709 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,920 anyway the guy i didn't mention who's really influential is a guy named cyrus scofield 710 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:30,320 who wrote the scofield reference bible and if you look at into yeah there it is i mean totally 711 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:40,640 normal dude wants to be buried under that you know um jesus christ whatever yeah sorry 712 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:49,840 sorry um no no no not interrupting at all um yeah so the the scofield reference bible guy basically 713 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:55,680 cyrus scofield start uh had to leave where he was originally from because of corruption scandals and 714 01:17:55,680 --> 01:18:01,120 like he abandoned his wife and daughters and was a drunk and was basically an all-around piece of 715 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:07,760 shit and eventually he gets involved with some like elite people even though he's like sort of tried to 716 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:14,000 revive himself as a um a different kind of uh i guess preacher getting into this christian 717 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:19,760 dispensationalist movement that i talked about earlier and then he uh you know out of nowhere 718 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:26,160 this like small town preacher gets invited to join this like really exclusive uh secret society in new 719 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:33,040 york called the lotus club and uh where like andrew carnegie and the vanderbilts and all these guys 720 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:39,520 were members so like what is he doing there and uh that club ended up financing him to write what 721 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:46,000 is called the scofield reference bible and then arranged for him to go to uh england where he uh 722 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:53,840 got the first um reference bible uh printed in by oxford university and then thanks to all these elite 723 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:59,920 connections it was basically became like the main bible used in seminaries throughout the united states 724 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:06,160 and i i think also in the uk and this is important because so the sky the this bible 725 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:11,920 is uh it's the king james version but it's like annotated by cyrus schofield even though he wasn't 726 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:19,040 a trained theologian and had started off like you know having all these uh issues with like forging 727 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:24,880 documents and bribing people and like yeah so anyway that's his background but he's so he's interpreting 728 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:32,240 all this stuff and it basically became the standard for a lot of um seminaries in the us and that's how 729 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:41,200 it sort of got out and so a lot of uh interpretations of the bible come from that that are you know 730 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:46,000 things like that you hear from a lot of christian zionists like if you curse israel you will be cursed 731 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,840 and if you bless israel you'll be blessed which by these groups becomes something like 732 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:55,520 if you criticize israel you're cursing israel and so you're going against the bible by saying 733 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,680 anything negative about israel's government 734 01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:07,520 right it goes back to that it comes from the scofield reference bible very weird i don't know 735 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:12,240 it's definitely worth looking into cyrus scofield and who he was um because you know whether you're 736 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:16,480 a christian or not i think honestly this history matters and i think especially if you're a christian 737 01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:24,480 it matters um because you know you should be concerned with uh you know the lack of you know 738 01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:31,760 how should i phrase this like um the focus of christianity in my opinion should be you know as 739 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:37,920 close to the truth as jesus taught it right not necessarily like people like john nelson darby and 740 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:45,440 all these guys in the 1800s and cyrus scofield adding their interpretations to it like maybe you should 741 01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:51,200 go back earlier before like all these centuries of like uh corrupt catholic popes and then you 742 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:57,200 know corrupt people like cyrus scofield started interpreting stuff for you know their political 743 01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:02,560 benefit you know so i mean it's definitely worth considering some of this stuff you know what i mean 744 01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:10,880 so again um if you want to know how the middle east is going to play out or at least rather where 745 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:18,320 they're going to try and take this definitely look into the stuff because uh it's been going on for a 746 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:25,040 long time and it definitely precedes the rehearsal and all of that stuff to a significant significant 747 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:33,520 degree and this same line of thinking is still influencing events today lineage of radical christians 748 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:40,400 trying to bring about the rapture is why we're it's not just christians though yeah it's like 749 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:46,400 there's people in israel and people in the us and arguably beyond i mean i'm not you know i haven't 750 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:52,320 like in uh studied islam that extensively like so a lot of this line of research at mint press happened 751 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:57,760 because i like majored in religion in college so i had a lot of background but i never really have 752 01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:02,800 studied islam but i know there's like messianic varieties of islam as well so it's very possible that 753 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:07,520 like on their side they also sort of want to bring out their messiah too i mean it's more than 754 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:12,080 possible you know you have all these different groups pushing for their different end time 755 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:18,560 scenarios they think are going to favor them in some way um but again to go back to this quote from 756 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:26,800 from gareth ike that i sort of said earlier let's get off the chessboard stop playing these guys's uh 757 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:34,080 game because it's very bloody and it's very nasty it's very um against human freedom and the values 758 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:41,440 that i think most you know sane people share right yeah no that's i mean going back to like the bible 759 01:22:41,440 --> 01:22:46,880 like an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind i'm not sure if that's the bible or yeah i think 760 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:52,240 well i mean that's sort of essentially happening now in terms of justifying you know what's going on 761 01:22:52,240 --> 01:23:00,480 with israel and palestine and like the increasing escalations right yeah so no it's it's been crazy 762 01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:06,880 to see just like the the vitriol spreading we have protests here in the u.s the capitol building 763 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:14,960 yesterday embassies around the world everybody is out looking for blood and like you said i don't know 764 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:20,560 how we can do it but it definitely needs to happen it's like hey people everybody walk off the chessboard 765 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:25,920 you're being manipulated and going back to well you may not be able to convince other people 766 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:32,000 to walk off the chessboard but definitely don't feed in to like the extreme let's get all divided 767 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:38,800 in anger hate and anyone that doesn't believe what i believe is a terrorist mentality like that is so 768 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:46,000 not helpful um and it's you know it was totally what was not helpful about covid too you know you know 769 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:51,600 and it is helpful to like you didn't get the vax you're a biosecurity threat to me and my family 770 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:58,880 and my grandma you know i mean and now it's becoming clear that same deal that uh what was 771 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:04,480 promised that this wasn't gene therapy is it's becoming clear that there was a lot of dna that 772 01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:09,840 was not supposed to be in those vials in those vials um well this is what happens when you trust 773 01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:16,240 the craziest people at darpa in the military to make a vaccine for you without any sort of safety 774 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:23,920 studies of any meaning and oversight and call it operation warp speed they jabbed a dozen mice 775 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:32,560 looked good good in the mice yep yeah i think how long how many days did they like follow up on the 776 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:38,240 mice too i feel like it was like not long you know sort of like those monsanto roundup studies where they 777 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,920 like knew that the mice were all going to get tumors after like three months and so they made 778 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:49,520 sure the study only lasted two months yeah right yeah but it's and it is trust the science trust the 779 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,840 science and then like you know because it's not like science can be manipulated by the people who 780 01:24:53,840 --> 01:25:01,120 manipulate literally everything i mean in the whole it's hilarious going back to the lack of critical 781 01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:06,400 thinking that exists in the world and the attempt to diminish that even further with ai 782 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:13,920 it's like science is literally don't trust anything like test test test it's like no literally ai is 783 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:21,040 being set up to be like the mother of all psyops it's like use ai to like put out a bunch of content 784 01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:26,960 pretend it's people like just give people crazy information overload so they're totally bewildered 785 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:34,560 and then depend on another ai to filter out the news for you and tell you what you should believe 786 01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:42,480 they literally say that in the book and that's like what's happening it's nuts that's where i 787 01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:47,680 mean things like nostr that's what i think it's going to have to get to is literally when you send 788 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:52,800 a message out on the internet and i don't this is a problem still hasn't been solved yet but you should 789 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:59,280 have something equivalent to a yubi key it has a private key on it that you sign and attest to the message 790 01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:05,760 like this actually came from me the physical human being um and if i don't have this pgp signature or 791 01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:10,960 this private key signed next to anything i put on the internet it's not me it's likely a bot 792 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:21,920 well it's definitely going to be superior to former twitter which is um you know x verify all humans 793 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:29,840 um well they just came out with their new privacy policy let's in they just came out the privacy 794 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:35,040 policy but they're going to feed all the information into their ai like up except oh 795 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:41,760 doesn't elon musk back open ai i'm so shocked apparently you backed away i know but he has 796 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:47,280 another ai company that he's made too that's going to be all tied into the ex super family of companies 797 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:52,000 yeah and i mean if you i'm sure you've been paying attention but you can see the light nudging 798 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:58,880 that's happening on x uh to really cattle herd people to like never leave the platform like the 799 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:03,600 one change they made two weeks ago which is like if you have a link going outside of the site it's just 800 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:11,440 like a picture it doesn't even have like an article uh subtitle subtitle metadata it's it's only gonna get 801 01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:18,400 worse it's only gonna get worse and there's a lot of people who like just can't live without social 802 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:27,600 media so like they'll just stay forever and get psyoped into oblivion by ai uh oh yeah have you what 803 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:33,040 are your thoughts on master i know you're on there um we talked about it so yeah i've i've been kind of 804 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:38,960 tied up for like three or four months so i haven't really gotten to like use it or really twitter much 805 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:46,080 um i'm kind of avoiding it because it um not not nostril necessarily um but like twitter just because 806 01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:52,800 i blah you know i mean just social media in general can be just kind of exhausting and obviously the 807 01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:58,320 algorithm is well for people that don't remember like facebook and some of these other companies 808 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:03,760 got caught like tweaking their algorithm to like manipulate your emotions mainly to make you feel like 809 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:09,840 shit basically so i'm pretty sure they still do that whether it's twitter or elsewhere twitter 810 01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:15,520 i had right i had to stop looking at twitter as much because the for you tab for me is literally 811 01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:22,240 all murder videos i'm like i don't want to watch murder yeah a lot of it is like yeah so i didn't 812 01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:28,080 wasn't enjoying it either and was like no i don't need this and so you know if i want to tweet something 813 01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:36,160 i'll like you know it'll it'll be tweeted but i'm not reading anything on it anymore yeah because 814 01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:41,120 all right so you know after reading this book by kissinger and schmidt basically who were basically 815 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:46,960 the intellectual architects of current us ai policy and when you consider that like the us military 816 01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:53,840 literally uh like almost 10 years ago started studying how to use social media to their words 817 01:28:53,840 --> 01:29:03,600 control humans like drones okay um definitely want to keep your perception of reality yours you know 818 01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:11,120 what i mean if the goal of ai for them is to have ai control how you perceive reality and that you stop 819 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:16,480 being able to do that yourself i mean that's like the ultimate mind control and population control 820 01:29:16,480 --> 01:29:22,960 that's what this is about and they openly say in the book this has major implications for free societies 821 01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:33,440 and even free will okay and it's pretty clear what they want out of this so the best way to uh 822 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:39,360 you know fight against that at least on an individual level is to keep your mind your own 823 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:47,760 you know what i mean yeah and that means having very robust critical thinking skills and not having 824 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:54,560 political saviors that you just believe whatever they say and also talk not being online 100 of the 825 01:29:54,560 --> 01:30:04,720 time yeah do you have any hope that everything they're attempting to do from the cbdc to ai to this 826 01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:12,160 tearing down and rebuilding of the temple it's just too much for them to to control and contain at this 827 01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:16,080 point and that they lose control yeah people are going to recognize like all right totally what the 828 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:22,320 hell just happened it seems like it's over it's becoming extremely overwhelming to an extent too 829 01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:26,960 many moving parts and they can't manage it all which i think is part of why they're so desperate to 830 01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:33,600 get ai to a certain point too because they have to have ai manage a lot of it okay but this is where 831 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:38,000 freedom tech people need to get creative because it's not enough just to develop stuff where you're like 832 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:44,800 okay um i want to make alternatives to existing big tech products like how do you not only divest 833 01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:54,240 from big tech ai products how do you uh help up big tech ai products you know make them like how can 834 01:30:54,240 --> 01:31:01,440 you uh feed microsoft's ai a bunch of data that is basically like throwing a wrench in its algorithm 835 01:31:01,440 --> 01:31:10,880 yeah for example right i mean you know this is an info war but it's like it's a tech war there's a lot 836 01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:15,360 going on and so like maybe we're the underdogs but at the same time these guys have taken on a lot more 837 01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:22,640 than they can chew for sure yeah and i think they're you know very confident they're going to be able to 838 01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:29,840 control stuff and ai is going to be able to do this and that but okay so just like every industry 839 01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:35,600 that like these guys control there's a lot of corruption like a lot of ai companies oversell 840 01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:41,120 their ai and they're out their algorithms you know so like i wrote about one in 2020 with covid 841 01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:47,600 this israeli company i got this contract in rhode island to like predict covet outbreaks before they 842 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:55,920 happen yeah and based on the company and this is like not audited by anyone independent this is like 843 01:31:55,920 --> 01:32:04,640 the company statistic they said that their ai was like 73 accurate right so if it's audited 844 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:13,040 independently and it's like 50 it's like flipping a coin how is that useful right so like there's a lot 845 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:17,440 of grift just like all the industries that these guys i mean because it's all about money and power 846 01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:23,760 right they often create inferior products because of the obsession with money and power so like 847 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:30,880 there's problems with their ai you know what i mean yeah um and so i i do think at some point though 848 01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:37,840 based on what is in this kissinger book uh they're probably going to try and fake artificial like general 849 01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:42,880 artificial intelligence or whatever like the singularity they might fake that and try and make this 850 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:50,480 new like ai driven religion and stuff and the dataism religion thing that like you all know harari is 851 01:32:50,480 --> 01:32:54,640 really into i mean they might try and go that route but i doubt it will be i mean it won't be real 852 01:32:55,200 --> 01:33:02,400 no it'll just be a psyop i said moment's come out and said that they discovered agi internally and open ai 853 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:10,560 already oh okay yeah so that's that's amazing okay so well amazing in the sense that like it's hilarious 854 01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:18,080 and he's full of shit look and see if you can find that on twitter so yeah i'll have to look that up so 855 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:24,320 i did a video with my friend ryan christian a while ago when google covertly tried to do the same thing 856 01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:30,560 with their uh large language model lambda i don't know if you remember there was an engineer that got 857 01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:37,440 coverage and like the wall street journal and the new york times being like it's sentient guys and 858 01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:42,240 he had like these chat logs and then a few months later had to admit that he like forged the chat logs 859 01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:49,360 and it was like all but there was this huge like media push like ai sentient the singularity is here 860 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:57,200 and all these people got like jacked up on it you know yeah um but there's like a whole uh effort 861 01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:04,640 i think to basically you know do um you know just fake it basically because once you have people 862 01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:12,560 being like oh there's this new great intelligence um a lot of the stuff that's posited in the schmidt 863 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:20,720 kissinger book becomes a lot easier to implement you know yeah yeah i found a tweet so it doesn't have to be 864 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:28,880 real no so like here here pull this up logan um apparently it was sam altman in a 865 01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:36,560 in a reddit thread basically saying agi has been achieved internally there is a community note on 866 01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:44,720 this yeah saying that he responded saying i was just joking um right okay well okay you know just like 867 01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:49,520 i think it's a good rule to like never trust the fed or jamie diamond i also don't think it's a good 868 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:57,360 uh idea to ever trust the world coin dweeb so like he's probably full of shit sorry he's like 869 01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:01,040 literally running a scam stealing people's biometric data and sell it and giving them 870 01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:06,720 shit coins in return like have you seen the allegations believe the guy he's like a clear grifter 871 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,200 and have you seen the allegations from his sister 872 01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:19,360 oh no more more stuff to look up look at me uh allegations i don't want to get in trouble for 873 01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:24,880 slander or anything but apparently his sister has been on twitter for a year saying that he molested 874 01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:33,840 her when he was when they were younger oh no i did not know that yeah but um it's being swept under 875 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:41,680 the rug pretty aggressively oh gross well he's gross um i can't say it really shocks me that 876 01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:48,480 there's a high possibility he might be grosser than i previously thought i guess um yeah but basically 877 01:35:48,480 --> 01:35:53,360 you know i think they're going to fake this um singularity thing to sort of get people to jump 878 01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:59,440 on the ai bandwagon and be like okay let's put it in charge of everything um because that's what they 879 01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:05,360 want but frankly it's like you know like i said earlier i don't think it's really working the way 880 01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:10,880 they want and ultimately you know if they get the singularity or they they convince people they get 881 01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:16,800 it they can do like this whole like wizard of oz thing right where basically like they're the men 882 01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:23,920 behind the curtain and there's this ai and like ai issues all these like edicts and diktats and like 883 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:29,200 oh well ai is super intelligent and way smarter than us so we got to do whatever the ai says guys 884 01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:35,120 you know but i mean it could just be like henry kissinger and eric schmidt behind the curtain 885 01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:42,160 being like let's carpet bomb iran you know and you should only have the ai says it and yeah yeah 886 01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:48,240 eat the bugs whatever like ai says it all it's for the good it's the super intelligence uh so we just 887 01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:54,480 got to do whatever it says and you know they say in their book too and a lot of other like ai experts 888 01:36:54,480 --> 01:37:02,960 and thinkers you know ai doesn't have logic or you know think quote unquote like humans do so it can't 889 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:11,120 explain how it reaches its conclusions you know so it's all this opaque decision making computer says no 890 01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:19,040 and that's it right but they don't have to have actual singularity actual intelligence they just fake 891 01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:24,640 it and act like ai is doing all that stuff but it's really just them being like oh cool now we 892 01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:30,560 have carte blanche to do whatever the f we want you know and have no accountability or ever have to 893 01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:37,440 explain ourselves again if you're the elite would you want that would you fake the singularity to get 894 01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:44,160 that uh yes especially if you know you can't achieve the singularity because you're overestimating ai and 895 01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:51,520 overhyping it all the time yeah well it's like i mean ai can do some stuff good but it can't do 896 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:56,960 everything they say it can do no and that's why it's conflicting to me and why i brought up the open 897 01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:01,600 source source closed source battle that's going on right now to you because i get value particularly 898 01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:07,360 for image generation for the website for thumbnails it does produce pretty cool images and there are 899 01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:12,640 uh stable diffusion models open source models that i can run on my own server and sort of train it 900 01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:19,360 with our brand aesthetic to like pump out thumbnails very easily for me i don't have the money to hire 901 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:25,280 designer and to do that or the time to do that and so like that provides value to me and i could see 902 01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:32,400 a scenario which i have my own hosted ai model on my own computer that i control that doesn't connect 903 01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:37,120 to the outside world and i just feed it data and say hey help me sort of crunch these numbers 904 01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:43,440 and give me back a income statement balance sheet um with the financials that sit on my server i can 905 01:38:43,440 --> 01:38:49,920 do that quickly like that could be valuable to me and other things too like well i'm not saying ai is 906 01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:55,760 bad i'm saying the worst people in the world are making a bunch of ais right now and they want to 907 01:38:55,760 --> 01:39:01,920 put the ais they make in charge of everything yes that's bad that is precisely because they're the worst 908 01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:09,520 people in the world right so you know that that's like my main point here like i'm not trying to be 909 01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:14,560 like a luddite or saying like don't use technology whatever but you have to be responsible and you 910 01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:20,960 have to be very like aware of the plans of these people and how they they plan to use those technologies 911 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:26,640 and also how they plan to regulate them and if they plan to make your ability to you know do what 912 01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:32,640 you just mentioned with ai illegal right yeah because they want to make financial anonymity illegal 913 01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:41,920 they want to keep uh control of all of these tools in the technology and centralize it right so i mean 914 01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:47,440 they might try and go that route i mean i don't really know but um definitely going to i mean that's 915 01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:52,880 why sam altman's in front of congress why the google people are in front of congress that i mean it's 916 01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:59,360 so crazy how and that's why i think your statement is that they're really rushing this because they 917 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:05,920 think they're losing control holds a lot of weight in my mind it's because like the fact that ai became 918 01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:11,120 popular this time last year and then not even a year later less than 10 months later you have all the 919 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:17,200 heads of ai on congress being like regulate me harder daddy don't let anybody else use this yeah it's 920 01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:24,240 a very yeah accelerated exactly like it went from nothing to an existential crisis in seven months 921 01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:31,440 yeah and it's gonna i'm telling you next year's gonna be even faster than this year it's gonna 922 01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:36,640 be nuts there's gonna be a lot of stuff popping off yeah so we're gonna have definitely time to get 923 01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:44,160 ready the great election to distract all of us and divide and confuse people yeah um if you want 924 01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:48,960 to take what's coming seriously treat what's happening with the election as the political 925 01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:53,280 circus that it is and give it the amount of your attention it deserves which is not much 926 01:40:54,160 --> 01:41:00,080 yeah uh people i think should honestly be focusing on like how to divest from the people trying to 927 01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:06,400 enslave us and get prepared for what's to come yeah no i mean even this week not being like 928 01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:13,600 oh sorry no i was gonna say just even this week i don't want to call what's happening i don't want 929 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:20,720 to diminish what's happening in the middle east and label it as a distraction but like here in the us 930 01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:24,880 like the financial system something broke on the back end of the financial system it's very obvious if 931 01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:30,800 you look at like interest rates and price of gold and then on top of that uh on the civil liberty side of 932 01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:37,280 things they just jailed that guy uh james mackie i believe his name or douglas mackie uh for seven 933 01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:43,280 months for making a meme about hillary clinton in the 2016 election right and so like you have like 934 01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:49,280 political dissonance getting thrown in the gulag obviously all the january 6 people yeah yeah here's 935 01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:56,240 the other thing i forgot to bring up about wefpac um which is involved with the un and interpol too 936 01:41:56,240 --> 01:42:01,280 because interpol is a big part of it and that's important because it's not just about online and 937 01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:07,760 financial anonymity like eliminating that it's also about labeling people that go against that ban 938 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:14,880 as cyber criminals and you can also be a cyber criminal for publishing misinformation online right 939 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:21,760 and there's this push at the un under sdg 16 which is also the sdg that digital id is folded in all 940 01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:29,360 this other stuff is um to basically um you know prosecute cyber criminals globally and have interpol 941 01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:36,240 go after people like empower interpol to do that which is part of wefpac and the doj for people in the 942 01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:43,920 us also part of it all very bad right so anyway interpol developed its sustainable policing goals i mean i 943 01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:50,720 wish i was making this up um but it's to complement the sustainable development goals and it's about 944 01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:56,640 deciding who's a cyber criminal and who's not and basically again people that publish wrong think 945 01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:05,440 online uh people that uh facilitate um you know privacy enhancing technologies that could be used 946 01:43:05,440 --> 01:43:12,720 for money laundering you know yeah all that stuff and i mean they've already been doing this in like 947 01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:19,440 the crypto space for a while like anyone like going after people that you know developed mixers and stuff 948 01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:25,200 like this or yeah but this week too they tried to like pin bitcoin as supporting hamas and like the 949 01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:29,760 best evidence they had they were like this one wall got two thousand dollars it's like what like they 950 01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:35,120 rolled in with the guns he gave ukraine like what the hell are you talking about yeah no i know so like 951 01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:43,360 before this happened this conflict happened i gave this speech in may and at the in miami right and i was 952 01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:49,600 like referencing all these headlines saying that the next frontier in terrorism is bitcoin in the dark 953 01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:56,240 web it was all it's been all over the place for years they're gonna come after it and it's not like 954 01:43:56,240 --> 01:44:01,840 it's just like um oh they're gonna illegalize bitcoin or anything i think they're gonna try and co-opt what 955 01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:10,080 they can out of bitcoin and then try and negate the potential bitcoin has to be a tool for financial freedom 956 01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:19,120 basically yeah that's why i completely agree with you it is our job is people fighting to bring freedom 957 01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:25,200 tech to the world bitcoin yeah one of those technologies that we have to get serious so 958 01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:30,880 that matches so for like the bitcoin i'm sorry so for like the bitcoin community there's like really 959 01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:36,480 two camps as i see it there's the people that are like i'm into bitcoin because i think it's going to 960 01:44:36,480 --> 01:44:43,520 make me loads of money and i can't wait for million dollar bitcoin and yada yada yada yeah and then 961 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:49,040 there's some people who were like i'm in bitcoin because i want to uh destroy the bankers and their 962 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:55,440 hold on society and return financial freedom to the people there is only one side there that's legitimate 963 01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:02,480 yeah and there's only one side there that is like deserving of respect and the other people might as 964 01:45:02,480 --> 01:45:09,440 well go work for jamie diamond and off yeah well that is um that is one of the memes in bitcoin is 965 01:45:09,440 --> 01:45:14,000 you come to get rich but you stay for the revolution so i do i do agree those two sides exist but i think 966 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:21,120 the more people spend well i mean you can look at it as a money thing but if you give no crap about the 967 01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:26,720 financial freedom side and you're willing to collaborate to turn bitcoin into a tool for the same people 968 01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:36,880 it was supposedly created to you know fight against uh i don't respect you yeah you suck 969 01:45:37,440 --> 01:45:42,880 that's how i feel about it that's why uh we've really been beating the drum like don't buy the etf 970 01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:50,640 the etf is uh the whole blackrock etf the fact that blackrock was like calling bitcoin like terrible 971 01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:56,400 it was like anti-esg and then you have this complete about face like oh we love bitcoin we're going to get 972 01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:04,000 the largest etf i think they can use it to benefit them as things move forward yeah and there's a 973 01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:12,320 fight to be had for the control of bitcoin for sure um do you want the larry finks to win i don't 974 01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:21,760 um you know i think it's pretty clear um at least you know people that believe in like financial freedom 975 01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:26,720 like what side to choose and there's a lot of work to be done there because if the people that care 976 01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:34,400 about financial freedom just sit back and don't do anything to keep bitcoin as a you know as potentially 977 01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:41,840 helping that it will be lost and it will be hollowed out and turned into a zombie that serves the same 978 01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:49,600 powers that be that are everything up let's not do that guys completely agree anyway i've got to go 979 01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:56,880 because i've got a hungry baby who's upset so you go feed your baby probably have another minute or two 980 01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:03,760 yeah well thank you for coming back on the show there's a lot of stuff popping off i'm sure we'll 981 01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:10,160 talk we'll talk uh sooner rather than later because things are i don't think i'm gonna decelerate from 982 01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:17,600 here um no i'm happy to see you i'm happy to see you back in the saddle i know it was a tough winter 983 01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:25,440 for you and um yeah so now i was thinking about you a lot in the last few months and um well thanks 984 01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:32,320 marty i mean it's nice to be back and talking about stuff and not just you know being a mom 24 7 but it 985 01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:38,960 is my first and most important job so you know gotta do what you gotta do yes yeah so let's come first 986 01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:43,200 hopefully we'll be back to work kind of normally with a better internet connection 987 01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:49,600 next month i'd like that very much um but it's kind of slow going because my son since we got out 988 01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:54,880 has been in and out of the hospital we have to go back uh on sunday for a few days hopefully that'll 989 01:47:54,880 --> 01:48:01,360 be the last of it for a while and i can kind of work again that'd be nice well uh i'll be praying for 990 01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:07,120 you guys and uh thank you keep crushing it keep sticking the needle in the eyes of 991 01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:14,640 of these despots who want to uh yeah that's what i live for i guess with that and and the people 992 01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:23,520 i care about you know yeah well um yeah we're gonna win a lot of black pills a lot of history 993 01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:28,560 but there are some white pills too well it's a i guess it's a black pill in the sense if you feel 994 01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:33,840 like you have like no agency over events and i don't really think that's true no like i think the 995 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:39,520 people that invest in preparing and divesting and taking responsibility for themselves will be 996 01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:47,120 pretty well off when things um you know hit the fan so to speak i mean it's going to be crazy but 997 01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:53,440 you just got to be in the right mindset for it and you got to be practical about how to prepare yeah and 998 01:48:53,440 --> 01:48:58,560 also if you're out there because i know a lot of you are out there you email me there's a lot of people 999 01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:06,160 in prominent positions who believe the same things we do but feel that they can't speak up they self 1000 01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:12,800 censor um speak up that's what we need more of too well people just need to stop being afraid about 1001 01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:20,000 it like the stakes are very high and i mean if you're like afraid about it all the time it's it's 1002 01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:26,960 i mean i'll paraphrase dune you know fear is the mind killer it's very true and um from people that 1003 01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:32,160 have survived economic collapse like in argentina for example i live in south america so i know people 1004 01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:37,280 from argentina that had to live through that uh they all say your state of mental preparedness is 1005 01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:41,520 like the most important because if you're panicking and freaking out and you don't think clearly you 1006 01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:49,920 make bad decisions yeah mentally prepare we'll end it there whitney it's always a pleasure likewise 1007 01:49:49,920 --> 01:50:04,320 marty thanks peace and love freaks