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If you're watching this with your kids,
they're 12, 10, 14 years old.

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This is not the one for them to watch.

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This is 18 and above.

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If later on you feel comfortable as a parent
to have them watch and do it, you're going

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to see every emotion in here.

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I had to bring my booker in, Tony, because
some of the accusations that were made to

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clarify certain areas, and Tony came in here.

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Some of this, she shared some names she's
never shared before, two of the names that

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she was a sex worker for, I don't, you can't
even say sex workers at 10 years old, it's

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One of them she claims, who was a powerful
billionaire, you know the name, that she

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go to the Bilderberg event party in Europe,
and she had abusers who had sex with her

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at nine, 10, 11 years old, and she would come
back and report these stories back to

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the billionaire.

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What that information was used for, you know,
obviously your imagination can take it to

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is not a podcast you want to sit in, I can't
wait to watch this one here, but I think we

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have to because, you know, with the 359,000
missing children in America as of 2022

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to the FBI, what else do we need to do?

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Just sit around and not talk about it, no,
no, no, you know what, it's just too

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to watch, it's just too disturbing to watch.

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Someone's kid is missing.

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Do we not bring light to it?

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Do we not address it?

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it's our responsibility to bring attention to
it, and many of the positions that she

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took and claims she made, multiple were prime
ministers, multiple were billionaires, these

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are her claims, and while we're going through
it, she was pushed back on some of the

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but I advise you to go to your own due
diligence, your own research while you're

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a lot of courage to talk about it, I also
don't want to sit there and, you know, claim

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everyone's guilty.

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I believe innocent to proving guilty, but I
believe go do your research and your own

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due diligence on the names that she's
dropping, and that'll help you understand ...

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as well, especially if you're somebody that's
interested in this specific issue as much

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as I am.

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Having said that, enjoy this uncomfortable
interview that I had with Anika Lukis.

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They wanted to control everybody.

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Did you ever meet him?

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Meet him?

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Oh, yeah.

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What was he like?

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Horrendous.

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Unpacked.

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He loved being behind the scenes, creating
this elite sex slave who was going to make

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him millions.

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It's a 150 billion dollar your industry, I
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No, no, no.

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This is a global elite network with specific
people in it, and they're not all friends,

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so there can be infighting happening as well.

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Mind control training at nine years old.

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Yeah.

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Why did they take you there?

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A ritual.

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Nope.

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Celebrity.

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You've never talked about this?

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I've never said his name.

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I can't just flop these names out.

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I have to.

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In case you're a person we would know?

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Definitely.

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You would know the name.

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Alive or dead.

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I didn't think that this was going to be the
kind of conversation we were going to have.

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So the audience doesn't think I'm cornering
you.

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You told Tony that you wanted to name names.

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I would...

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No, I didn't say that at all.

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Come on, Tony.

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before...

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All right, I'll tell you something.

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I was trained as a spy.

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That week I was sleeping with men and then I
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sexual preferences.

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Is that...

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I'm not saying.

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world of entrepreneurs, we get no value to
haters, howdy run, homie, look what I've

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I'm the one.

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Okay, so today's story will be very
uncomfortable to listen to, but it's a sto...

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must be willing to have the courage and the
toughness to listen to.

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Some stories you just...

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You're like, "Man, I have so many things
going on in my life.

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I don't want to hear a story like this."

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missing children as of 2022.

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We don't hear a lot about it.

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When we had George Floyd incident, everything
shut down.

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Every mainstream media talked about it, $2
billion of damages, local business owners.

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It had to be on all of our minds.

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Tell me what's more important than talking
about something like that.

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No one wants to talk about it.

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Why?

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It's uncomfortable.

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The audience doesn't want to hear this story.

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Come on, just leave it alone.

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Let's talk about politics and Trump and
economy and all this other stuff.

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We chose to talk about it.

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And today's guest is a brave woman who has
been talking about this for the last 11

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Some of you may have heard her story before.

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Some of you may have not.

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And that takes a lot of courage to take, but
I'm looking forward to having this

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with Annika Lucas.

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Thank you so much for being here with us on
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My pleasure.

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So I go through the story.

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And for a person that reads this, you think
it's a movie.

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You don't think it's real.

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When it says, "Traffic as a young child at
six years old sold by her own mother to

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your words when you say this, six hours a
week, 1,716 hours before the age of 12.

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I listened to that.

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I'm like, that is unbelievable to hear
someone go through it, but that's your life.

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So if you don't mind, and I know this is not
easy to do, if you don't mind taking a few

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A few minutes.

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We'll be together for two hours, but the
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Okay.

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Yes.

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Essentially, my mother was mentally ill, I
guess, never diagnosed, and she was single

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at first, and I was abused very early on.

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She was married when I was three.

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The woman was the cleaning lady, and she and
her husband would take me on outings when

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I was five, had started, and so that went on
for a whole year.

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I didn't like them.

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I never wanted to go.

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I had to, my mother had my brother then, and
after a year they took me, well, they took

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It was in a castle, it was horrific.

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And my mother, my mother, I tried to tell her
that bad things had happened, you know,

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I didn't have the language, obviously, it was
just around my sixth birthday.

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She then started driving me to locations.

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She would receive a call, she would drive me,
I found out later that she was paid.

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And these were in Belgium, for three years I
was just trafficked in Belgium, and the

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head of that, I call it the network, in
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give them sometimes to really, you know,
through blackmail.

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You said he was the national defense.

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He became a two-time prime minister later on,
right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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So this is before he serves as a prime
minister.

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It might have been after all, so he served
twice, so yeah, I'm not sure.

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Could have been before and after.

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Yeah.

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So at this point, when this has happened to
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who he is?

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No, I didn't know anybody at the moment, at
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I had no idea.

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How did you learn about who they were
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In my adult life.

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How though?

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Well, they were very easy to find.

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Most of them were very easy to find.

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to Google, really, just starting to Google
and finding them very easily.

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Just the faces you would recognize or what
was the method?

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Yeah, yeah, looking for their positions.

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I would know whatever I had, I would type
that in, and then usually they would come

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up right away.

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That was the surprise, that was the big
surprise, really, that I had no idea that

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this prominent when I was a child.

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to you with a name.

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You don't know who it is.

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Well, him I called him Polo.

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Polo.

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Polo, but his name is Paul, but there's other
children that named him something else.

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So I called him Polo, and then some people I
knew their first name, but yes, they're

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very visible.

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I found out from quite a few perpetrators
when they die, because then they're in the

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So how many of them you knew about when they
were alive?

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You said that's this person, that's that
person, when they were alive?

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Well, actually, I've recognized quite a few
when they died, and that's not only, I think,

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because I may have remembered certain things,
but I may have not remembered who they were,

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specifically, to keep myself safe in some
strange way, that the healing that then

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I wouldn't have been able to keep myself
safe, if that makes sense, because the

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is so involved, and it does, there are
certain perpetrators I was very attached t...

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I know that may be very hard to understand
and believe, but I was very attached

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What was your relationship with your father
like?

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Well, my biological father, I didn't meet
until much later.

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I never met him.

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How old were you the first time you met him?

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18.

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And so, he didn't recognize me, and then my
stepfather was the man who closed his eyes

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My brother is his, and I think the reason my
brother wasn't trafficked was maybe because

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he was clearly more interested in my brother,
so he just really closed his eyes, but I did

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try to tell him, and I write that in my book,
by the way, I did try to tell him, and he

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didn't believe me when I was a child.

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My mother would, he was away a lot, he was a
cameraman, he was traveling a lot, but when

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my bed, and then she would let the car drive
down, just let it, let it, let it, just

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turning on the engine, just to be quiet, and
then at the bottom of the driveway, she would

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dawn, that was how it usually worked, and he
was asleep in bed, and, you know, I thought

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later maybe he thought she was having a fair,
she was doing that also, but he never

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and she made up stories also about what had
happened to me, for example, at one point she

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did, and I was not a tomboy, but she was
saying that because I was covered in blues...

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and so that explained it, and then he
accepted whatever she said.

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When your mom is dropping you off or picking
you up the first time this happened

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how was she explaining to you like are you
pleading and say mom please don't take me

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anymore to a place like this I don't want to
go there and if you said that what did she

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so I was an extension that deserved all her
wrath so I have said I wasn't going to go

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and she dragged me by my hair one time but
most of the time because I was her little

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trying to please her more than anything and
then my mother was extremely sadistic.

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I said I once said I'm not going.

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And what did she tell you?

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She dragged me by my hair.

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She would get very anxious before we left but
of course I was gonna go I mean you

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children and you have children's you children
are gonna do whatever you know I was doing

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to tell myself that she loved me because you
have to know that you're loved as a child ...

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trying to please her as much as possible so
most of the time I wasn't going to do

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her but there was another element is that
with my mother because she never saw me sh...

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because she didn't see me at all it was I was
receiving more reflection of things that were

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true about me by these pedophiles in the
network frankly that were seeing intellige...

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seeing beauty and so at times it was actually
more comfortable it was better to be in th...

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with so this entire time when you're when
she's dropping you off and picking you up

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you're not controlled like it's you know you
see it in the movies where the owner has you

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in a room upstairs and people come in and out
and they handle their business and you're

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mom and dad that's not the case this is mom
is dropping you often coming and picking y...

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she wanted to she looked up to these people
she would have done anything to belong but

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because I think her particular way that her
mental illness showed she was almost too

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she would not have been able to keep the
secret so she didn't get in but it was as ...

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envious that I was it was as if she was
sending me in her stead that she would hav...

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how was hers her relationship with her mom
and dad she was born in 39 before the war ...

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died when she was five just after the war and
so her father whom I did know he was

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town in belgium during the war in her early
years during the war and then lost her mot...

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early age and I can only assume that there
was sexual abuse happening because that's ...

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always acted I have gone through more than 30
years of healing from sexual abuse all kin...

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that's you know she acted like someone who
was sexually abused and and never understo...

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she was more than that you know when you get
as a child there's something that happens

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you're a child and you're innocent and you're
the light of god and you are you are innoc...

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sexually abused it's like you feel that
you've lost that innocence and that you ca...

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it back there's the trauma of sexual abuse is
such that you know you know what trauma me...

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going to hope you wish that it was yesterday
if there's a big loss you just want it to ...

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it's like they steal your light they steal
your life they steal your innocence and yo...

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you've lost it because you're a child and you
don't know that you don't deserve this

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you assume that you did and then there are
the children that can never get back to th...

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in the dark and it's run by people that are
not in touch with themselves on that pure

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level of i am light i am a child of god and
when that's lost when the abuse gives this

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you get validated that's how you want your
attention and my mother acted like that like

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someone who had no connection to herself and
who was just constantly um constantly tryi...

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sexual validation from all men so you're you
and your mother from six years old till wh...

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number you gave i gave that specific number
but it's obviously it's an approximation i...

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every week and sometimes look sometimes it
wasn't every week but other times i was go...

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of 1972 i was gone two months from home i
wasn't home at all where were you at you w...

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i was in the united states being trafficked
into united states by a powerful billionai...

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basically triaging me and training me in his
homes who is this i'm not saying who that ...

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i have to be careful what i say i can't just
flop these names i have to i have be a per...

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was taking me here i was in the united states
so i was either in his homes three of his

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time in or i was in the room in the daytime
sometimes in a in a bedroom or i was even ...

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family is near dc for a week um basically
parked in a family nice family that treate...

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that was taken to germany and i was there for
another month in a facility in heidelberg for

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what was my mind control training and this is
1972 when i was nine years old mind control

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training at nine years old yeah why did they
take you there when i met this billionaire...

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buenans made sure that he probably did many
things around there but basically to please

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this powerful um american that was there for
the bilderberg meeting he staged a um a

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and all right i can say something

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he had me in his homes and everything to get
me used to the life of the elite so that i

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environments and alongside that we went to
one of the islands on the northeastern coa...

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united states and saw there um and this was a
rothschild who was there rothschild a

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for uh one day only and it was clear that
this billionaire who you would think is ju...

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as this rothschild was not as powerful in the
network as he was and he was asking for

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to make the star that he wanted to make of me
well he didn't want to make me into a star he

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role i would attract the most powerful men in
the world and i would be able to spy on th...

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and so forth is that david rockefeller i'm
not saying i'm not saying i can't say this

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one reason i say that is because i pulled up
the list from 2012 attendees and i went

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all the guests on the right that says us from
the bill de berg meeting okay rob if you go a

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little bit lower and zoom in and you put us
uh yeah right there you'll see the names t...

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well i can't lie but um

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it's scary

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okay there you go you've never talked about
this i've never said his name

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you know you again you hear these stories

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and you wonder you know there's there's no
way these people are capable of doing

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know till 2017 but i knew a lot but i didn't
know that it was him so how did you know i...

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he died in 27 because that was just seven
years ago immediately i knew immediately i

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face and first of all i saw his face and then
immediately a lot of other memories came back

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beginning um so from 72 to 73 this was this
training so i spent quite a lot of time wi...

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in the in the u.s. in that first month in uh
july of 1972 and spent time spent time in his

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on the way to main on his sailboat and we
stopped off at the Rothschild who had to g...

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for the persona that he wanted to make out of
me and then Rothschild invited me into the

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i get a very nice invitation i feel you know
even this training even though there was a

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training also just let's not make any
mistakes here this is not like i was just

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being treated really well i was being trained
sexually as well but it was the best i'd e...

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wealth is that what do you mean by a
treatment no in the first three years in t...

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paul van den buurenant i was treated like
absolute piece of dirt what does that mean...

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of the low he always treated me like you know
he wasn't worth the time for him to even l...

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off

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But he was selling me all over or whatever he
was doing.

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He was using me for blackmail for people that
were supposedly new or he was giving me to

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Did he himself sexually abuse you or no,
Paul?

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He beat me up.

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But not sexually did not get sexually abused
by him.

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He was extremely sadistic.

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So he did not sexually abuse me.

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He abused other children, though.

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And I.

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I don't remember being sexually abused by
him, but.

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But he and a few others that were in charge
there just really would treat me like the

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So I was used to sort of knowing that it was
them, it was their fault.

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They were I knew that they treated me that
way, but I know that I'm human.

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So I didn't really fully take it seriously.

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I was doing it.

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And then in 1972, suddenly, three years
later, I got, you know, treated as very

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And this treatment had a lot to do with the
excitement that David Rockefeller felt ove...

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And I was already sold in the first year.

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In that year, in that year till I till I, you
know, I gave my will to the Rothschild.

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And he asked specifically, you know, he
asked, will you be part of the family?

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And I said, yes.

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And he asked me to say I will.

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And a year later, I did not give my will
anymore.

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And that's why I'm here.

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That I got, yeah.

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Why would Rockefeller do that if he's got
billions at the time?

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That's a very powerful family.

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He was a pot.

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He was a pedophile, first of all, and these
families, and David or more David, the

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David Rockefeller was a pedophile.

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There's a lot of survivors.

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I work with survivors.

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There are a lot of survivors out there of
David Rockefeller, but I saw him in a cert...

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All right.

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Now that we named David Rockefeller, we can,
I can tell you that the place where I was

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She was there, too, as a special project of
him, and she also came across Hans Harmsen.

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Harmsen?

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Hans Harmsen.

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H-A-R-M-S-E-N.

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Yes.

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There you go.

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There you go.

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And who was he?

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He was, I think, that he was in charge of the
special project of David Rockefeller for t...

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And I know one other survivor who went
through similar experiences as myself late...

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Did you ever meet him?

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Meet him?

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Oh, yeah.

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What was he like?

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Horrendous.

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Unpack it.

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Okay.

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The way that you're trained in mind control
training, it's based on torture.

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What I was used to doing as a child sex slave
was to please men in some way or other, to

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So with him, there was nothing that I could
do to get through to him. It was just

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And one thing that he would do is I was
forced to watch certain things to learn.

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About men's behavior, whether it was, you
know, one, it was their weakness or their

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So we're not talking about regular sexual,
we're talking about sexual perversions to

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And then I would need to guess based on a
face what this person would do.

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And if I got it wrong, he, one thing that he
did is he would just strangle me until I

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And in the fainting, he liked to strangle.

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And in the fainting, I would realize after a
while that in these near death experiences

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And so it was punishment for not giving the
right answer, but it was also part of the

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to use your reason.

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And one thing he did was he would strangle
me.

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And first he would say, what does this mean?

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And he would point point at his own face and
then he would strangle me.

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And so his face to me means being strangled
or it did.

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And I had to really just go into the
breathing and really, really just work

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You're going to asphyxiate.

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He wanted you to know that.

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That is how programation works in the
network.

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That you know it and your body has a
reaction.

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And also it is a way to get you from A to
whatever they need you to go.

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So if this prompt means that and that was in
Heidelberg, he, I don't, you know, he wasn...

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If you go back to that, Rob, that says right
there, he was a bureaucrat in the Nazi

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He was responsible for proven eugenic
sterilization performed on the disabled.

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He supported forced sterilization of the
mentally handicapped and helped to carry t...

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So when you're with David Rockefeller, are
you in their state?

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Are you in their house?

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Are you around their family?

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And if you are, who around their family?

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No, but I was around, I was in three of his
estates, as I said, and I was around his

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Did their staff know what was going on with
you or no?

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I was in bed with him and they acted like
nothing was happening.

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And the staff knew and was there and they
were just acting like that was all normal.

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I went shopping on Madison Avenue with him.

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He bought me some dresses and some clothes.

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And everybody you can imagine, everybody is
so happy to see him, so happy to serve him.

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You don't think they're going to think it's
weird that a young girl is with a very

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But this is 1972.

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Nobody thought anything.

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I could have been taken anywhere out in the
open.

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A lot of it was out in the open and nobody
would have thought a single thing.

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These people were just so happy to serve him.

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He told his staff that I was his niece from
Paris.

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Who cares?

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While they're seeing you in bed with them.

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Well, he didn't say it then, but they did see
it.

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But they acted like nothing was happening.

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And I don't know if they were also controlled
or if they were the right kind of

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I don't know.

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But I saw a woman and a butler, a woman and a
man, only those two.

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And that was in the house in New York.

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How did they treat you?

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Very nice.

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Very.

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How was he to you?

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Well, most of the time he was extremely, he
had this excitement.

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So, so a pedophile gets excited around
children.

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And so there's a way in which they can start
to feel alive when they're with children,

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That's sort of starting to come to life
because they relate to children in that way.

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So they're seeing children at a certain age,
usually the age that they were abused.

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And he was excited and he was excited not
only of being around me.

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And of course, a child is also not somebody
who's going to point out your flaws, right?

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A real partner will point your flaws to your
flaws.

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And that made him feel really good.

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So he was excited and he was also excited at
the idea of what he was making me into,

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And I was sold during that year already when
I was still supposedly in training to beco...

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I mean, I was given to a German chancellor at
the time.

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And that was called Kiesinger, who who I was
driven to Germany.

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So the Belgians were the Belgian handlers
would drive me to Germany.

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And then I would spend time with Kiesinger,
you know, who would take me to like little

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Yeah, yeah.

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Before he became chancellor, he served as a
minister, president of 1956, president of

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And David introduced you to him.

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How did nobody introduce me?

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I was just taken there.

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But the Belgian handlers would take me, they
would drop me off on the side of the road.

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And then he would pick me up and then I would
get in the car with him.

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And then he would drive me and then we would
arrive.

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And again, I was trained so I knew how not to
draw attention to myself.

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But also he learned he taught me to speak
German.

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He was very enamored and he might have might
have been paying.

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So I'm looking at this, you know, when we're
looking at some research, common methods u...

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This is different separating victims from
family and friends to increase dependency,

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Differences threats and violence using
physical harm or threat against the victim...

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Bondage creating a sense of indebtedness that
the victim feels obligated to repay

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psychological manipulation

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Employing tactics like gaslighting to control
the victim's perception of reality

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You have the Rothschilds you have the
Belgians who are you know connecting to th...

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we're talking about a

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global

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Network of people of a combination of
psychopaths and pedophile and you know far

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That are Satanists

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they

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They sell their soul to to Satan and they

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Want control they have the resources a lot of
the children that are born into these

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abused from the beginning and are in mind
control as well. They are also tortured and

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Trafficking is that you got you get in and
either you are what I was in the beginning

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Like your life means nothing and you could be
you could be killed anytime

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That was the first three years

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But then once he took notice of me and which
was in a very strange circumstance

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Yes, who he is David Rockefeller

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Use me for his purposes. Then I would have
been part of the what I call the global

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where I would have been

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Completely controlled as a star. That's where
the mind control comes in and then you kno...

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blood to

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Create a

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Person that is completely in their control

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everything goes into the PR of

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Presenting an image that is really acceptable
and then everything goes into the PR of yo...

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It's not as if David Rockefeller didn't have
access to the to the press

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So what these people were part of this?

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they

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use their

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Resources to control their image and that is
of course that someone like me should neve...

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What we don't understand is that?

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it is one network and and of course there is
then there if their friends they're connec...

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Sacrifices being made and then there are
those that just want to belong to the club...

445
00:44:26,319 --> 00:44:30,799
You know and then it depends in the network
in Belgium

446
00:44:30,799 --> 00:44:33,840
Well, it depends if someone gets sucked in
you know

447
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,920
You have your integrity and you have your
ideals and you start out and then what

448
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:48,599
You stay with the club or it's

449
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:54,519
It's your integrity means that you cannot do
this anymore. You cannot lie in the beginning

450
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:57,159
It's to just like be quiet about what you see

451
00:44:57,159 --> 00:45:02,079
Having to do with sexual abuse usually and
then as it goes on it becomes

452
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:07,519
You know you you get involved you get you
have to you're participating and of course

453
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:14,039
Be manipulable as a pedophile because not
everybody is going to

454
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:16,679
rape a child and

455
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:23,239
But those who don't they are they know and
they keep quiet about it. So that's how it

456
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:29,920
How long were you with David Rockefeller one
month or did you see him again after that?

457
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,480
I did see him again after that. I saw him
again after the training and I saw him aga...

458
00:45:41,279 --> 00:45:47,960
72 73 now April of 73. I saw him in Italy and

459
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:56,960
There that's where I saw the most people that
I recognized later. There were actually a ...

460
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,279
There are a lot of people that were in the
entertainment industry and this was my com...

461
00:46:01,279 --> 00:46:03,840
I

462
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:12,420
Several songs so that there was some Jack
Braille songs because he's Belgian like my

463
00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:17,599
That's what I sang. Yeah, no make it the bar
and then so to believe - it's a beautiful

464
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:23,380
Amazing song. It's beautiful favorite. And by
the way, that's that song was sang by I

465
00:46:23,380 --> 00:46:28,599
Think Julio Glacius, I think Sting

466
00:46:35,619 --> 00:46:37,619
He died at a very young age

467
00:46:37,619 --> 00:46:41,639
He died rather young. Yeah, but he was alive
then and it was a popular song

468
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:45,480
Was he there at the event or no? No, no, I
never saw Jack Braille

469
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,279
But I was singing the song and what I had
been trained by a famous

470
00:46:50,279 --> 00:46:52,559
French

471
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:53,759
composer

472
00:46:53,759 --> 00:46:55,759
singer and

473
00:47:01,319 --> 00:47:05,599
But this choreography I was sexualizing every
line of that song

474
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:10,319
So you have the line for example? I remember

475
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:17,199
Le Vieux Volcan

476
00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:22,539
Just there's a line about the old volcano
that nevertheless still spouts fire and

477
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:35,039
Because that's the old volcano. That's spouts
fire. That's still spouts fire in front of

478
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:40,340
That was the audience. Yeah, and then this is
an audience of people that were in the sph...

479
00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:44,799
Rockfeller, obviously, but this is like a
satanic gathering. I mean

480
00:47:44,799 --> 00:47:48,599
These were people that were in this club and
whatever

481
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:58,000
When you're doing that are they laughing or
they just like oh, it's this great

482
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,880
What laughing? No, no laughing everybody
laughs at the sex jokes of the nine-year-o...

483
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:09,480
Absolutely, you're nine years old at the
time. Yeah, okay, and who's there some of ...

484
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,440
Well, okay, I know you really want to hear
names and I really don't like to focus so

485
00:48:19,859 --> 00:48:23,319
Eddie Arnold was

486
00:48:23,319 --> 00:48:26,159
Yeah

487
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:30,799
So Eddie Arnold was somebody who really
really really wanted to belong to the club

488
00:48:30,799 --> 00:48:34,319
I don't know how people got in there

489
00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:37,319
There's some of them are coming in through
masonry

490
00:48:37,319 --> 00:48:43,119
some of them are coming in in other ways
because they get famous and then they get

491
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:57,039
But not abusing kids. You're not know he he
abused me. Yeah, I mean yeah. Yeah

492
00:48:57,039 --> 00:49:08,519
That week so there was a con an entire week
and I was basically given to a lot a lot a

493
00:49:18,579 --> 00:49:23,079
There were rituals happening. It was like the
only thing I can

494
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:30,519
The only thing I can compare it to is maybe
like I think of a Dionysian or G

495
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:38,539
If you ever read the books of Mary Renault
Mary Renault, okay

496
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:49,159
It goes on for days and days and

497
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:57,239
She if I look online, there's literally
nothing online about accusations about Edd...

498
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,920
Can you say?

499
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,840
You're not gonna probably I know a lot of
survivors of

500
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,679
David Rockefeller, but I don't think you're
gonna find any accusation online about Dav...

501
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:17,880
It's all about cover-up. It was very very
good all the investment all the money goes...

502
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,079
But it goes a lot to the image

503
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:24,039
You gave you gave a couple of the names to me
earlier

504
00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:28,599
I don't want to say it until you're
comfortable. One of the names was a

505
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:32,519
You know

506
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:35,440
Another famous politician from the West. Yeah

507
00:50:41,819 --> 00:50:46,679
And what was the interaction with you?

508
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:51,159
Scary

509
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:55,319
Was his wife also involved or just him I
didn't see his wife or I don't know

510
00:50:55,319 --> 00:50:59,480
I didn't see anybody else but him but you
vividly remember him and

511
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:05,440
When did you know it was him later on because
at the time you're nine ten years

512
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:14,579
You don't remember when he came to you later
that it was Pierre. No

513
00:51:14,579 --> 00:51:17,960
Justin Trudeau's father, right? Yes, you're
talking about

514
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:24,800
And I

515
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,359
Mean you have to you've never mentioned his
name before right

516
00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:35,279
Trudeau what was that relationship like or
the experience like was it a one-day thing?

517
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:43,159
David Rockefeller had me trained as a spy

518
00:51:43,159 --> 00:51:50,039
so I was a sex slave of course and I was an
elite sex slave now and I was trained as a

519
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:57,559
Spy through the mind control training and so
that week I was sleeping with men and then...

520
00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:00,399
Their weaknesses or their sexual preferences

521
00:52:00,399 --> 00:52:05,359
To David Rockefeller. Why did he need that
information?

522
00:52:08,359 --> 00:52:10,719
for example, or

523
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,619
If he knows what they want then you can give
it to them

524
00:52:13,619 --> 00:52:16,440
sexually

525
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,480
So about Trudeau I said

526
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:27,599
That I could never please him as long as I
was alive

527
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:31,159
That's how scary that was

528
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:35,079
You could never please him if I was if I was
alive

529
00:52:36,279 --> 00:52:38,279
You

530
00:52:38,279 --> 00:52:48,359
Would Trudeau mm-hmm, what does that mean? It
means that he couldn't kill me because at

531
00:52:48,359 --> 00:52:51,719
throwaway child and

532
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,639
he

533
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:58,000
He scared me enough so that I then

534
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,279
tell

535
00:53:00,279 --> 00:53:01,480
Rockefeller

536
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,119
That that's what he wants a child to kill

537
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:16,000
He can if he wants to use that he can use it
he can use that information Rockefeller

538
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:23,559
So how many of these celebrities did did

539
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:32,639
Abuse you during that specific event that you
were at for you to come back and report to

540
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,139
at that time and you know, I want to specify
that

541
00:53:39,139 --> 00:53:47,159
When I was in Belgium, I always had a
distance from the perpetrators and I alway...

542
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:53,039
You know was a human being and that they even
though they treated me like nothing that I

543
00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:56,800
You know

544
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,359
had

545
00:53:58,359 --> 00:54:00,759
Wasn't worth being treated that way. I knew
that

546
00:54:00,759 --> 00:54:03,599
When I was mind control trained

547
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:09,159
Which is based on science, you know, it's
horrendous science from, you know

548
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:13,759
Probably related to some of the experiments
that were done in the camps and I

549
00:54:13,759 --> 00:54:20,639
Know is extremely when I went into the mind
control training. There was no guessing.

550
00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:24,840
It was just done very precisely to get the
result that they wanted

551
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,759
so that I'm a high functioning machine for
their purposes and

552
00:54:36,179 --> 00:54:41,920
That I didn't want that anymore, I thought
now at Nick

553
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,920
I thought now at age nine I believed that I
was this persona

554
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:54,840
and that I was doing this. I wouldn't have
called it abuse. Does that make sense to you?

555
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:10,680
If you watch an interview with Richard
Kokolinski, I think Richard, what's his la...

556
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:17,000
I think I'm saying it right. Iceman and you
see him in interviews when he's killing

557
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:22,200
long gray. Well, that's the network, you
know, in the network this happens and you

558
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:32,360
And then so they get pulled in that way and
it's the same in the network, you know, wi...

559
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:40,440
and pedophilia. But let me let me stay on
this with you here. So you then gave me a

560
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:47,800
said a woman. You didn't give me a name. You
said a woman who would be seen as very

561
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,320
Was this woman also at the same event? Yes.

562
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,960
She would have to be in her 80s and 90s
today.

563
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:04,840
Politically related or business? No,
celebrity.

564
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:14,200
Celebrity that I told you no one would
believe. No one would believe it.

565
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,800
What? And this was in 73.

566
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:27,800
That's 51 years ago. 71 years ago. Yeah.

567
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:36,600
That nobody would believe. Nobody would
believe today. No. And what was such an ic...

568
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:42,440
this is it. We all have icons, right? We all
have people that we look up to. And every

569
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:48,360
had personally, people I never saw in the
network because I was only there for five

570
00:56:54,120 --> 00:57:02,360
into it, that were in much longer. Every icon
that I've had, almost every icon I have ha...

571
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:10,120
of because I found out from somebody that I'm
working with completely private healing wo...

572
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:16,760
we do together. I really wish that we could
talk more about the healing because I feel

573
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:25,320
yeah, I feel like we're talking a lot about
names and I really, the healing is so

574
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:33,960
I think the reason that I can speak is
because I've healed so much and I understa...

575
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:40,600
most people don't understand and I like to
speak about those things, like how that

576
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:46,920
and everything in the mind because I was
being trained to become like them and then...

577
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:58,680
going through this. I'm just trying to sit
here and you and I were talking, right, wh...

578
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:03,720
most people don't want to talk about it.
Everybody you've mentioned so far, I had a

579
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:10,760
interview with and he started telling me all
these weird stories and I want to believe all

580
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:25,880
the stories would get more and more and more
exaggerated. But there was one pattern.

581
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:34,280
he ever said anything about, they were all
dead. So they couldn't defend the story,

582
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:40,039
couldn't defend. I don't just go and tell
stories. First of all, I mean, it's taken ...

583
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:56,520
then in 1998 when survivors of the same
network that's in Belgium started to speak

584
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:02,440
case took eight years to go to trial. And
then they were left with Mark to true his

585
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:08,440
others. Michelle Nehul was one of the
defendants. Michelle Nehul I saw in the

586
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:23,640
And also, I knew that I wasn't ready. It's
not something you want to talk about. Firs...

587
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:30,360
I am a really good writer. I really wish that
I could have written stories that would be

588
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,880
and well written and it would be appreciated
and I would be appreciated as a writer. I

589
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:48,360
here and with this and talking about it and I
am but it's not I'm not here for my ego.

590
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:55,160
It is I get attacked a lot. I have to deal
with a lot of stuff. I have to deal with a

591
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:02,440
miscomprehension but also attacks. My book
supposed to come out in France more than a

592
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:16,360
in contact with me at all. I know that he
received at least one mail that was to

593
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:22,120
probably received a lot more by now. But
anyway, things happen all the time to stop...

594
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:31,240
out. I'm not just telling stories. I've been
so careful to wait until I was ready to sa...

595
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:41,079
going to get the love from people, I'm not
going to be able to handle it. I'm going t...

596
01:00:41,079 --> 01:00:45,880
and I can't need power when I'm going to
speak about these things. You understand?

597
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:53,000
I don't think there's anything about power
here. I believe this happens. I believe th...

598
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,920
days. By the way, today it's still happening.
You see movies like Sound of Freedom. You see

599
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:11,000
movies like Liam Neeson taking two, taking
three. Why do movies do so well? Belgium i...

600
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,440
for a lot of things. Europe, some of these
countries are known for a lot of things.

601
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:19,480
But to me, it's more-- It's a world wide.
It's a global-- Right. It's $150 billion

602
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:37,160
not all friends. There can be infighting
happening as well. But it is-- When I thin...

603
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:43,560
it's like manipulated division. There's so
much manipulation and it's all manipulated...

604
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:55,640
the top and the bottom. And when you start
looking at the top, when you really-- This is

605
01:01:55,640 --> 01:02:00,280
happening now. Who is the top? Well, isn't
Rockefeller the top? Isn't Rothschild the

606
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:05,079
Isn't these people-- Aren't those people the
ones at the top? So I'm taking all the risks

607
01:02:05,079 --> 01:02:10,200
speaking about it. I don't want to say
anything. I actually don't even like to sa...

608
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:27,240
saying names eventually is important because
I was there. It's my story. I should be ab...

609
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,280
who it was. What do you think about it? What
do you think about it? Jane Fonda and Juli...

610
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:35,480
What do you think about them? What do I-- I
don't-- These are-- I think of people like

611
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:51,640
Got it. Potentially what I was going to be.
Yes, I was supposed to be a celebrity in

612
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:57,160
So I was going to be singing and I was going
to be-- I was trained as the sexy,

613
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:15,640
powerful men would then fall for me. And then
I could maybe marry a president, you know,

614
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:20,920
that's possible, whatever it was. But it was
really Rockefeller who was behind it.

615
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:29,160
Okay. So when you're spending time with
Rockefeller, you said you didn't know it w...

616
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:40,680
and they're mentioning his name, don't they
say David Rockefeller? But the name, I nev...

617
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:46,600
the name. I never-- I know him as David. So
they wouldn't say please help me bring up

618
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:52,600
you know, great David Rockefeller. If I saw
his face, I probably wouldn't have seen it

619
01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:06,360
so deep. You understand, I was a child sex
slave. I had not known any love and this w...

620
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:16,200
got at that time. And because of that, I
would have maybe-- there's a lot of parts ...

621
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,120
very attached to him that loved him very
much. It's part of the reason also I would...

622
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:36,039
To who though? To him. To him because there's
still parts inside of me that are also

623
01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:44,360
And of course, I've learned a lot. The more I
heal, you see, you're talking like somebod...

624
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:49,640
doesn't understand healing very well because
the healing comes from, you know, how is i...

625
01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:00,760
to that. But then there was also the memory
of how I had met him, which was horrific.

626
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:10,920
And I'd grieve for that. In the 90s, I was
crying over that situation. And I haven't

627
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:28,440
through the body because our trauma is stuck
in the body. And then usually there's a

628
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:34,840
sometimes it's just boom. When he died, it
was immediate. And I immediately got the

629
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:49,240
mind control is about dissociation, you know.
You get traumatized. Why? Because it

630
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:54,760
And then you don't know. You don't know what
your other half is doing. So when we're

631
01:05:54,760 --> 01:06:00,920
somebody who has an amazing front, when
they're in their front persona, they don't

632
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:17,400
parts that will go alters, that will go and
do things, specific things. And that, of

633
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:22,760
that stays. When you're an adult, you're
dissociated. So you don't remember most of it

634
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:29,400
or nothing. And it just comes back little by
little. It's a very long and arduous process.

635
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:40,840
thing that comes when I had the first
flashback of this, I was like, no, no, no,

636
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:46,039
I thought, if that's true, I'm going to kill
myself, which was also programmed into me.

637
01:06:46,039 --> 01:06:56,280
I struggled so hard with, like, this is not
true. This is not who I am. I have an idea...

638
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:07,880
okay, things don't aren't really adding up.
And at the same time, I never want this to...

639
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:14,680
It's impossible. And without the true case, I
had no context either. But I was getting t...

640
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:20,039
one after the other. The therapist I was with
didn't want to know it. She wasn't ready. She

641
01:07:20,039 --> 01:07:25,400
didn't want to hear it. She didn't, she
dismissed it. Some things I didn't even br...

642
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:37,320
realized that all my flashbacks suddenly made
sense. And then when things start to make

643
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:42,120
then suddenly all a bunch of other things
start to make sense as well. Like, for

644
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:48,520
behaviors of mine, or what I call cover
memories, there are certain things that I

645
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:54,600
always known them. But, and I may have put
them in a certain context, but suddenly if

646
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:06,039
And so it becomes a personal investigation
into these memories. Where do you live rig...

647
01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:10,200
the state not not state in New York. You live
in New York. And how long you've been in t...

648
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:17,159
since 1985. And you don't know who David
Rockefeller is till the day he died in 201...

649
01:08:17,159 --> 01:08:21,000
the Rockefeller Center, the Rockefeller this
I told you, I never, never,

650
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,400
And you don't know who David Rockefeller is
till the day he

651
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,479
died in 2017 in New York, the Rockefeller
Center, the Rockefeller

652
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,479
diss. I told you, I never never heard the
name Rockefeller.

653
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,239
You can't that's not possible. Yes, of
course, it's possible.

654
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:29,979
I'm a child sex slave. Why would I hear the
name Rockefeller? Who

655
01:08:29,979 --> 01:08:34,079
says it? Nobody told me nobody said it. He
didn't say it. He was

656
01:08:34,079 --> 01:08:38,520
David to me. Now I heard it. I heard the name
Rockefeller as an

657
01:08:41,039 --> 01:08:44,159
that didn't mean anything. That name didn't
ring a bell to me.

658
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:46,119
Yeah, but I mean, he's everywhere. His
picture, you

659
01:08:46,119 --> 01:08:48,439
would see it. So it's not I didn't think that
this was going

660
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,079
to be the kind of conversation we were going
to have.

661
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:52,800
Well, I never know what kind of a
conversation I'm going to have.

662
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:57,640
I simply go into a combative almost weeks. I
feel like no,

663
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:01,119
to me, it's not that to me, the main thing is
the following. I

664
01:09:01,119 --> 01:09:04,199
think this is a very serious issue. I think
it's such a serious

665
01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:07,079
issue that in America, I'm disappointed with
our politicians

666
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:12,000
the mainstream media. And we've covered
stories like this God

667
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,319
knows how many times 359,000 missing children
in 2022, according

668
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:19,279
to the FBI, never once do you hear these guys
get up there and

669
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:21,800
campaign and talk about this kind of stuff.
It's just we're

670
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,199
talking about all the other stuff. So who was
the speaker of

671
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:28,600
the house was actually jailed for pedophilia.
If what you're

672
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,920
saying, if what you're saying is true, you're
saying your

673
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,560
loyalty is to Rockefeller. I'm not saying
that. Obviously, I'm

674
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,800
loyalty is obviously not with the abusers. It
never was. It was

675
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:51,000
in a very controlled situation. I was being
prepared as a child

676
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:56,439
to become part of them. I said no, at age 10.
Now that is

677
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:01,319
something that some children do, but most
don't most don't have

678
01:10:01,319 --> 01:10:04,880
the strength to do that. So no, my loyalty is
essentially not

679
01:10:07,239 --> 01:10:09,840
why I'm talking about you said that you said
I feel like a

680
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,119
certain part of me. I'm repeating what you're
saying. I'm

681
01:10:13,119 --> 01:10:15,600
not saying what I said. People talk about
your parents a

682
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,619
certain way, maybe at some point, no matter
what the reality,

683
01:10:18,619 --> 01:10:20,640
maybe at some point, you're going to feel
some emotional

684
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,859
strength. Yeah, but you're very comfortable
not talking

685
01:10:22,859 --> 01:10:25,359
positively about your mom, but you're not
very comfortable

686
01:10:25,359 --> 01:10:28,119
talking negative. My mother never gave me as
much as he did.

687
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:32,560
And that's just happens to be the truth. He
gave me reflections

688
01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:40,880
her before she died. Did you ever reconnect
with her? I forgave

689
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,800
her before she died. I called her to forgive
her before she

690
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,560
died. When you called her how much longer
after she died, did

691
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,960
she die a year after? Did you guys ever spend
time together

692
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:55,239
again or no? No, I did offer to come to see
her when she was

693
01:10:55,239 --> 01:10:59,439
dying. So how old were you the last time you
saw your mom? I

694
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:06,840
old, 18 years old, I was an adult, I was in
touch with her as an

695
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,800
adult. And as these memories were coming
back, and I was working

696
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,520
on these things, little by little, it became
clear that she was

697
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:19,279
still the same person that not, you know,
there's this idea of

698
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:22,319
what my mother was, which is what I needed to
live with as a

699
01:11:22,319 --> 01:11:26,720
child to, to believe, you know, to survive.
And then there's the

700
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,159
just exactly the same as she would have, she
never changed.

701
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:39,199
And really, there was no reflection there
that I would

702
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:43,920
have needed to emotionally grow. It was all
false. It was all a

703
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:48,800
projection. It was had nothing to do with who
I am. I was like,

704
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:55,760
she needed me to be bland, either good and
bland and ugly. Or

705
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:05,640
evil and powerful. And the David Rockefeller
saw, even Paul

706
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:10,600
van der Buynans saw things in me that my
mother never did. He

707
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,560
recognized things that were actually
intricate, intricately

708
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:19,039
mine. So I, for an emotional, for my
emotional growth, I needed

709
01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:21,079
you ever seen a movie Red Sparrow?

710
01:12:21,079 --> 01:12:24,159
No, I don't need to see those movies because
they're very

711
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,960
little aspects of what happens in the
network. Yeah.

712
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,760
Oh, I fully believe that network exists. I am
not from the

713
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,960
School of Thought that this doesn't exist.
This is a real

714
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,600
thing. It's a, I have a lot of friends in the
space who are

715
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,760
former CIA guys, Delta guys, military guys
that, you know,

716
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,960
it's as real as it gets, it is happening.
Only reason I asked

717
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,439
this question for me is one of the recent
stories that was, you

718
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,800
know, all over the news in America is over
Jeffrey Epstein

719
01:12:58,399 --> 01:13:04,439
billionaires give him $151 million of
consulting fee, who the

720
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,800
hell gives who 151 million? Oh, he will help
me on my taxes that

721
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,199
much, maybe a million, maybe a half a
million. I don't know

722
01:13:10,199 --> 01:13:14,119
anybody gets paid 158 million dollars of
consulting fee Leon

723
01:13:14,119 --> 01:13:16,319
Black gives to Jeffrey Epstein. It's kind of
weird, right? When

724
01:13:16,319 --> 01:13:19,960
people ask, well, that's the amount of money
that's very I

725
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,720
with survivors again, and several survivors,
younger

726
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,380
survivors that I know were trained by him.
And so who?

727
01:13:32,380 --> 01:13:36,920
Jeffrey? Jeffrey Epstein. He was a program
talking David as

728
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:41,680
well. Excuse me. Yeah, no, Jeffrey Epstein.
And they were

729
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:49,119
they were trained by him some from when they
were babies. So

730
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:59,479
and everything. And then we we talk about
Yeah, the abuse of

731
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:04,039
teens. But really, we're he was training
children of all ages.

732
01:14:04,039 --> 01:14:09,319
Jeffrey. Yeah. Did you ever meet him or
Jolaine? No. Never

733
01:14:09,319 --> 01:14:14,640
met him even in no I was out in 1974. I was
out. Right. Yeah.

734
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,159
when he came to New York? What were you doing
in the 80s? 85?

735
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:25,520
Well, I want to talk a little bit about how I
got out because

736
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,720
normally you don't get out. Okay, tell us how
did you get out?

737
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:34,560
Look, first, the week that I was telling you
in Italy, it wasn't

738
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,319
Italy near by Lake Como. And so where I was
sleeping with all

739
01:14:39,319 --> 01:14:41,600
these men and where these horrific things
were happening.

740
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,159
Men and women, I think you said there were
men and women

741
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,760
to be with women. I was only trained to as a
sex slave for

742
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:56,279
men. And these horrible things were happening
all week. And the

743
01:14:56,279 --> 01:14:59,520
end of the week, and this is April 30 is an
important day for

744
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:03,840
the Satanists. I'm not exactly sure why. But
by the end of the

745
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:10,239
week, I was going to have my big I had
already had the the

746
01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:12,399
singing, you know, I'd already had the
performance for

747
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:24,079
was how I was going to be part of them.
Another I will perhaps,

748
01:15:24,079 --> 01:15:28,319
you know, you have to say I will, you have to
give your will to

749
01:15:28,319 --> 01:15:34,159
the network to Satan. And so this was going
to be my big entry.

750
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:47,640
didn't want to. I didn't want to pay that
price. I didn't want to

751
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:57,239
pay the price that it would take to be part
of it. And so I did

752
01:15:57,239 --> 01:16:01,680
everything that I needed to do because I had
been trained in a

753
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:17,680
saw David Rockefeller, I rebelled. And then I
was

754
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:27,159
immediately, immediately tortured was thrown
in a cage in a

755
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:37,399
never touched, he was always kept. He would
for them, he

756
01:16:37,399 --> 01:16:41,079
would, he watched and he was there for some
of it. He was

757
01:16:41,079 --> 01:16:47,119
verbally telling me that I was absolutely
worthless. But Hans

758
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:05,239
retrained for several days to make sure, you
know, that I

759
01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:08,239
would feel the lowest of the low, and then I
was absolutely

760
01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:16,960
worthless. And anyway, he's telling you this,
I was he

761
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,359
wasn't always there. He was there a few
times, but he wasn't.

762
01:17:24,359 --> 01:17:32,720
And at the end of that, couple of days, I was
basically thrown

763
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,720
back into the Belgian network, where I was
used another year.

764
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,559
And then my book actually speaks about the
year after I've

765
01:17:40,559 --> 01:17:43,960
already been rejected from what I call the
inner circle

766
01:17:52,159 --> 01:17:57,760
an interest in me. And a year later, a year,
you know, that

767
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:04,880
became an extremely violent, vicious
relationship. I'm 10.

768
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:12,479
He's 20. And a year later, he rescued me. And
I had a near

769
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:21,520
I had an extremely big near death experience.
And I wasn't

770
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:28,960
supposed to survive. But I had to come back.
And it was a very

771
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:34,680
beautiful experience. Also, like, my book is
called Quest for

772
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:39,359
Love. And I was in these pedophilic
relationships and

773
01:18:44,079 --> 01:18:48,119
happened in that near death experience was,
and I was always

774
01:18:48,119 --> 01:18:53,399
spirit was often present with me. And there
were, like, when I

775
01:18:53,399 --> 01:18:58,559
talk about these things, and yes, I was
tortured for days, you

776
01:18:58,559 --> 01:19:01,319
know, and that this is true. So when you look
at that from the

777
01:19:01,319 --> 01:19:04,079
outside, it is just gruesome. And there's
nothing else there.

778
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:09,039
But spiritually, I felt often that there was
help, sometimes

779
01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:17,840
There was, um, sometimes there was an insight
that would come.

780
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:21,840
Or often I felt this benign presence. And
when I had the

781
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,800
near death experience, it was a very glorious
experience. And I

782
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:32,039
felt finally this incredible love, you
believe in God? Of

783
01:19:32,039 --> 01:19:35,159
course. I mean, that's everything. There is
nothing

784
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,039
you a? How would you define that?

785
01:19:42,039 --> 01:19:50,479
The, um, the one my teacher who showed up in
the near death

786
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:54,640
experience was by my Hansa Yogananda. Now by
my Hansa

787
01:19:54,640 --> 01:20:00,479
Yogananda started a autobiography of a yogi.
Yeah.

788
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:14,239
go. That's by my Hansa Yogananda. So by my
Hansa Yogananda

789
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:24,880
wrote. Yeah, one of the gurus of the path is
Christ. And so it is

790
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:30,940
not separate from Christianity. The teachings
are the original

791
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,800
to do with the physical yoga, but meditation.
So you have, you

792
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,079
know, the prayer, which is like speaking to
God, and then the

793
01:20:42,079 --> 01:20:46,239
meditation, which I could call listening to
God. And there's

794
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:50,399
these specific meditation techniques that
bring your energy

795
01:20:50,399 --> 01:20:57,640
back into your spine and brain that are meant
to help you to

796
01:21:01,020 --> 01:21:06,500
you transcend the physical, you leave the
body, but because you

797
01:21:06,500 --> 01:21:10,100
are not the body, you are consciousness, pure
consciousness.

798
01:21:10,100 --> 01:21:14,859
And then in that experience, I experienced
the expansion of the

799
01:21:14,859 --> 01:21:20,300
heart, where I've just felt that divine love.
And then no, and

800
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:35,239
for when I was healing. And that is to go
back to return to the

801
01:21:35,239 --> 01:21:38,720
love of Christ. And that is why my message
has so much to do with

802
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:43,479
ending the division between people between
us, not judging

803
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:48,079
other people, respecting everybody, getting
along, but to

804
01:21:52,260 --> 01:21:57,979
network. Very specifically held accountable,
of course, and the

805
01:21:57,979 --> 01:22:00,220
people in it, and that the

806
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:05,000
the people in it, and that the division is
caused from that place of these people tha...

807
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:09,639
maintain the control specifically so that we
won't look at them and that we won't look ...

808
01:22:09,639 --> 01:22:13,800
Of course, what has happened to make it stop
existing? Nothing.

809
01:22:20,359 --> 01:22:25,319
talking about it? Is that is that kind of how
you process that?

810
01:22:25,319 --> 01:22:29,639
Everything I do is to help it. I heal. I work
with other people that have been through i...

811
01:22:29,639 --> 01:22:36,519
the fact that I have had my plus 30 plus
years of healing behind me, I can really, ...

812
01:22:36,519 --> 01:22:40,840
when someone has been through something like
that, it is very common that you cannot

813
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,599
So when someone who's been through it and
it's been through the healing who knows

814
01:22:49,639 --> 01:22:57,800
when they come up, that is what I do. And I
write and I, I'm a writer, I think of myse...

815
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:08,840
So I try to reach people not about, it is not
about the sensation, it is not about the

816
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:23,720
in spiritual justice, though, not necessarily
justice on earth. Most of these people died

817
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:34,760
in their bed. They were never held
accountable in life. But I, to me, my role

818
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:40,279
up this, the revelation of this truth, which
is a dark truth that I think we should kno...

819
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,880
And the second part of my mission, I think,
has to do with the healing.

820
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:53,079
I developed a psychological healing modality.
And it's for everyone. It is to look at po...

821
01:23:53,079 --> 01:23:59,559
in the way that we all, you know, project
power. Like, I, if I look up to you, you

822
01:23:59,559 --> 01:24:07,559
then I'm going to come from a place of below.
And that projection, it is used as an entr...

823
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:17,239
means that I'm coming from a child place and
I'm putting you in the position of a parent.

824
01:24:17,239 --> 01:24:25,079
And beneath that upward projection, putting
someone on a pedestal is fear. And so we g...

825
01:24:25,079 --> 01:24:34,840
that way to look at healing or whatever it
is, unmet emotional needs or vice versa, w...

826
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,639
Why do I need to feel powerful in that
moment? Why do I need to think less of tha...

827
01:24:43,639 --> 01:24:51,800
So it's, it's not judging in terms of just
saying what it is. Like, I don't mean,

828
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:56,599
you know, a pedophile is a pedophile. That's
not what I mean. Judging, you know, that

829
01:24:56,599 --> 01:25:01,479
judgment there. That is just what it is, is
discriminating or discerning. But I'm talking

830
01:25:07,399 --> 01:25:14,679
create that division to keep judging each
other and to keep thinking that it's other

831
01:25:14,679 --> 01:25:21,720
us. To me, I understand that. But, you know,
I just put something, I tweeted something ...

832
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,880
today, because of what happened with Lake and
Riley. And we were watching a video of Lak...

833
01:25:31,239 --> 01:25:40,039
Young, beautiful, of a human being, beautiful
spirit, is going for a run at night while a

834
01:25:40,039 --> 01:25:46,599
Venezuelan gangster is looking for her. And
she comes not looking for her, just lookin...

835
01:25:46,599 --> 01:25:54,760
And she sees her running. He sees her
running. And he catches her wanting to rap...

836
01:25:58,599 --> 01:26:05,399
She's trying to escape. And her family, her
stepfather, read a letter she wrote to her

837
01:26:05,399 --> 01:26:10,920
husband, which is the most incredible story
when you read this. It's tough to watch it

838
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:18,680
getting emotional. I'm getting emotional now.
For me, when I hear stories like this, you

839
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:22,279
we're going through this right now in
America, you're in New York, so New York's...

840
01:26:28,119 --> 01:26:31,719
Any illegal immigrant who commits a crime in
America should face five times the punishment

841
01:26:31,719 --> 01:26:36,519
of someone who is here legally, especially
U.S. citizen. And an automatic death penal...

842
01:26:36,519 --> 01:26:44,680
of rape, murder, you know, drug, child
trafficking. I'm not, I have zero toleranc...

843
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:50,920
comes down to somebody taking advantage of a
kid or any of it, especially when we're bo...

844
01:26:58,279 --> 01:27:03,639
most immigrants don't want to come here. Or
if they do, I mean, I love the United States,

845
01:27:03,639 --> 01:27:07,639
you know, I have had opportunities here that
I studied here that I would have never bee...

846
01:27:07,639 --> 01:27:15,079
to do that in in Europe. So I love America. I
love the spirit of America. I think that t...

847
01:27:15,079 --> 01:27:20,519
place where things can change and this can
change here. On the other hand, we have to...

848
01:27:26,279 --> 01:27:36,199
liberal side is being co-opted is the
empathy, is the willingness to be open-min...

849
01:27:36,199 --> 01:27:43,800
I feel that this is being co-opted just as
the toughness on the right, you know, is a...

850
01:27:51,239 --> 01:27:56,680
children, you know, save the children, a lot
of feeling and a lot of sympathy for the

851
01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:06,279
But I as an adult don't experience
necessarily that same empathy, you see. I'...

852
01:28:20,279 --> 01:28:25,079
reason why you have tens of millions of views
online, because people empathize with you ...

853
01:28:25,079 --> 01:28:29,719
book has got 223 reviews, five-star. Why is
it five-star? Because there's a community

854
01:28:29,719 --> 01:28:35,239
you know, not necessarily understands the
pain. Most people haven't gone through this,

855
01:28:39,719 --> 01:28:43,479
I see your face. I see my daughter. I've got
an eight-year-old girl and a three-year-ol...

856
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:48,279
I'm not okay with that. There's a part of me
that is a, naturally, my entire life have

857
01:28:48,279 --> 01:28:52,760
very protective since we lived in Germany for
two years and my mother and my sister were

858
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:56,199
I was a 10, 11, 12-year-old. I was ready to
do anything if somebody did anything to my

859
01:28:56,199 --> 01:29:00,199
mom and my sister when my parents went
through divorce. Now, I understand that.

860
01:29:07,639 --> 01:29:13,479
but I'm supportive of what the Shah was
doing. I think when the regime fell, Iran'...

861
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:18,359
shit show since 1979. Iran was a beautiful
place prior to that, right? No, it's not t...

862
01:29:18,359 --> 01:29:24,199
what the politicians and some of the other
people, people in clergy did, messed up th...

863
01:29:34,119 --> 01:29:40,920
and moving on. No, I've done a lot of that
today, haven't I? When you're saying

864
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:45,639
to me, it's a very weird thing what happened
with liberals. I think liberals lost

865
01:29:45,639 --> 01:29:50,760
They're a little bit confused. Feminists
started off with a... I'm a feminist. Well...

866
01:29:57,159 --> 01:30:02,199
women rights, women rights, right? But
everything gets co-opted by those that wan...

867
01:30:02,199 --> 01:30:06,760
the people. Conservatives are not sitting
there saying, let's have men compete again...

868
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:11,079
young girls. I mean, that's like the
ultimate... See, but that is how everybody

869
01:30:11,079 --> 01:30:17,319
That is a thought, an idea gets co-opted, and
then it gets pushed, and you know... What

870
01:30:26,279 --> 01:30:34,359
perspective. So I was trained to get into the
mind of men. And what do you do to get int...

871
01:30:34,359 --> 01:30:41,399
You use their fear. You find what it is that
scares them. So you use fear, then you got

872
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:56,599
every issue, what you hear about it is very
specific. And it creates more division

873
01:30:56,599 --> 01:31:02,680
most people are not on that end of the
spectrum or on that end of the spectrum as

874
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:07,960
presented to us. Most people are somewhere in
the middle. And yes, I think there's a lot of

875
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:25,000
for the... In the feminist movement, the
issue of abortion was co-opted. Now, Hans

876
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:31,719
that German doctor, he was the head of
pro-familia. So he was the head of the

877
01:31:45,639 --> 01:31:55,000
that has become the thing, the biggest issue
that is not. Every woman would know that

878
01:32:11,159 --> 01:32:17,960
you more empathic in general and more able to
open your heart because we're mothers. And

879
01:32:28,039 --> 01:32:33,719
everything that was imposed. I was going to
be part of that agenda of sexualizing

880
01:32:33,719 --> 01:32:42,199
go towards pedophilia eventually because I
was going to be a girl singing sexy songs ...

881
01:32:49,559 --> 01:32:54,920
that way. And of course, there's a thought
behind it that people will think it's okay

882
01:32:54,920 --> 01:33:00,039
girl sings like, you know, make sexual jokes
and that an adult woman sings like a littl...

883
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:06,359
everything that is being sexualized, the way
that porn has become so incredibly accessi...

884
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:21,479
very much fit into that agenda that I was
going to be a part of when I was a child b...

885
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:26,920
who really want to control everything. And so
when you take abortion, that is a natural

886
01:33:38,119 --> 01:33:44,039
a drink, basically, that was the idea instead
of a marital commitment, it became this li...

887
01:33:44,039 --> 01:33:49,639
a drink and this is what it is today. It's
considered that. Well, that's what I think

888
01:33:59,399 --> 01:34:07,800
has to do with this, like the abortion would
be a natural result of sexualizing

889
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:15,079
that then the girl has to pay the most. And
that abortion then would become a good

890
01:34:20,039 --> 01:34:28,199
You never hear about how, for example, there
is no consent form, like there's no consen...

891
01:34:28,199 --> 01:34:33,159
signed. You don't know what happens to the
fetus. You know, when you sign, when you g...

892
01:34:33,159 --> 01:34:42,119
an abortion, I am neither. I am neither. I
refuse to take sides in all of this becaus...

893
01:34:50,039 --> 01:34:57,079
my life. And it would not have been an option
to live out the pregnancy and to give up t...

894
01:34:57,079 --> 01:35:04,920
for adoption. It would have not have, it was
not on the table. So it is such a difficul...

895
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:09,079
because you know there's life inside of you.
Are you glad you're alive?

896
01:35:13,639 --> 01:35:16,760
But abortion is such a complex. Are you glad
you're alive?

897
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:27,399
You know, a lot of survivors of what I've
been through would not really say yes to

898
01:35:27,399 --> 01:35:38,599
And today, by the grace of God, I am here.
And I am glad to be alive. I feel that rig...

899
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:47,719
that I never would have hoped to have and I
feel purpose to my life."

900
01:35:47,719 --> 01:35:54,279
Yeah, you know, it's a very, and I agree that
this is a very,

901
01:36:00,679 --> 01:36:07,319
It's the, it's the same people that create
the problem and that create the solution.

902
01:36:07,319 --> 01:36:12,759
I mean with co-opting. And that is what I
mean with the division that has to be so

903
01:36:12,759 --> 01:36:19,639
we see, it's not as if social media is not
controlled. So there too, we get constantly,

904
01:36:19,639 --> 01:36:25,960
constantly brainwashed. And that's what I
say, we have to be very mindful of and

905
01:36:30,599 --> 01:36:34,920
people. That's what we have justice. That's
what we have law and order. What kind of

906
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:40,759
you mean? Because they were in the network
also, the people from, no, that's it. The

907
01:36:40,759 --> 01:36:47,079
justice system were the head of, they're for
sale. And that's why I said they need to b...

908
01:36:47,079 --> 01:36:50,759
when they're alive, not when they're dead.
That's why I ask you, who's the lady's nam...

909
01:36:56,039 --> 01:37:00,519
reason is because nobody would believe me and
I'm not ready. And it's not fair if you as...

910
01:37:00,519 --> 01:37:04,359
but at this point, I don't, I don't, I don't,
I don't, I'm not interested. I don't even

911
01:37:04,359 --> 01:37:07,799
to say it. Even if you said, I'll cut it out
just so you know, for you to know, I'm not

912
01:37:07,799 --> 01:37:13,559
I'm not trying to close you in telling me.
Don't do it on my show. Do it on somebody

913
01:37:13,559 --> 01:37:17,079
give me the name right now, I'll cut it out.
It's a matter of timing. Everything I do is

914
01:37:20,759 --> 01:37:28,359
if you if you sit there and think about what
is going on,

915
01:37:28,359 --> 01:37:39,079
there's nothing like unfair. What's the word
unfair punishment. So you hear these stori...

916
01:37:39,079 --> 01:37:44,199
you know, guys that went to jail for 20 years
for selling a dime back. I know I worked i...

917
01:37:49,239 --> 01:37:55,239
anybody. Somebody else blamed them. And hey,
he's going to go in, right? These are

918
01:37:55,239 --> 01:38:00,199
You've ruined someone's life, their youth.
You stole their 20s and their 30s. That's

919
01:38:00,199 --> 01:38:07,239
they're going to get out in their mid 40s,
right? But you need law and order. So the ...

920
01:38:14,199 --> 01:38:20,119
we have certain politicians that are for
sale, predominantly on the left that are f...

921
01:38:20,119 --> 01:38:25,479
Well, no, don't say that. My perpetrators
were from both sides. Yeah, no, but

922
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:31,239
no, no, you cannot say I don't know. I said
politicians. I said politicians. It's cheaper

923
01:38:31,239 --> 01:38:35,879
to buy the people on the left than the ones
on the right. You don't know presidents,

924
01:38:41,239 --> 01:38:48,679
campaign are tougher to buy than those who
were funded 100% by donors like the Clintons,

925
01:38:48,679 --> 01:38:55,079
like the Obamas, like the carters, like I'm
saying that you don't know that. No, it's

926
01:38:55,079 --> 01:39:00,359
because it's just called math. I have a
different perspective. My perspective come...

927
01:39:05,639 --> 01:39:12,359
make your perspective 100% accurate. I'm
saying you don't know that. Also, you don'...

928
01:39:12,359 --> 01:39:16,839
because you're also a little bit too in it
because as a feminist, you said you're a

929
01:39:16,839 --> 01:39:21,159
It's easy. What does that mean to you? What
does it mean to you? Tell me what you tell...

930
01:39:21,159 --> 01:39:26,599
means to you. Well, I have been through a lot
of things that I know that would have neve...

931
01:39:33,879 --> 01:39:39,639
what you're saying and another one. No, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, not at all...

932
01:39:39,639 --> 01:39:48,279
means that I am absolutely for full equality.
That doesn't even mean necessarily legally...

933
01:39:56,839 --> 01:40:03,639
a woman, that's what it means to me. It
doesn't necessarily mean what you're makin...

934
01:40:03,639 --> 01:40:08,119
When and I don't know what that meant, what
you just said, but you know, like for me,

935
01:40:08,119 --> 01:40:12,839
as maybe maybe you don't understand then as a
man, but as a woman, there are certain things

936
01:40:20,039 --> 01:40:25,239
young adults, sure, to be harassed. I was
harassed everywhere. When I was living in

937
01:40:25,239 --> 01:40:29,559
was living in New York, it was just happening
all the time. I believe you. Yeah, I belie...

938
01:40:29,559 --> 01:40:33,639
example, that's one of those things. No, but
we're talking two different things. I beli...

939
01:40:33,639 --> 01:40:39,719
believe the sexualization of women. I fully
believe that. Okay, I'm not I'm not sittin...

940
01:40:44,279 --> 01:40:49,879
are okay with men choosing to compete in
women's sports. That's very weird. Well, o...

941
01:40:49,879 --> 01:40:54,199
that's that's not what I'm talking about at
all. That has nothing to do with it.

942
01:40:54,199 --> 01:40:58,279
that's what a lot of liberals defend
nowadays. And that's why they lost the

943
01:40:58,279 --> 01:41:03,239
catastrophically as they did in America
losing seven battlegrounds. It's

944
01:41:09,239 --> 01:41:13,319
I don't agree. That's everybody. No, no, I
don't agree. That's everybody. But by the

945
01:41:13,319 --> 01:41:19,799
John F. Kennedy, what he wanted to do with
America, I think there was a lot of lot of

946
01:41:19,799 --> 01:41:26,279
to do was noble. And I trusted their family
more because they self funded them running

947
01:41:26,279 --> 01:41:32,039
you couldn't necessarily buy them. Anybody on
the left or the right, I told you, all my

948
01:41:38,199 --> 01:41:42,039
Those are two different things. I totally get
it. What's the saying, Rob, when they say,

949
01:41:42,039 --> 01:41:46,759
when you meet your hero, what's the word
don't meet your hero, because you will be

950
01:41:46,759 --> 01:41:49,960
disappointed or some phrase like that,
because you're going to see they don't wal...

951
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:56,599
much as you thought they did. But no, look, I
think it is a conversation that needs to b...

952
01:41:56,599 --> 01:42:01,479
I do know it's uncomfortable. And I do know I
have a reputation of asking questions that

953
01:42:04,839 --> 01:42:09,639
And forgive me for being me. I've been like
this for 46 years. I don't know any other

954
01:42:09,639 --> 01:42:16,599
I saw an interview that you did. And I
thought it was much more peaceful. Yeah,

955
01:42:16,599 --> 01:42:26,759
MIA. MIA. Oh, because the conversation was a,
you know, it was a, you know, that was mor...

956
01:42:26,759 --> 01:42:30,839
her interesting story that she had on what
happened with her. But there was a little ...

957
01:42:34,839 --> 01:42:39,000
Did you watch the whole thing or not? There
was a little bit of tension with her

958
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:45,239
the Bible. And not just that her father of
her child and you know, some of the things...

959
01:42:45,239 --> 01:42:48,679
about that she was uncomfortable to talk
about. She asked not to talk about just li...

960
01:42:48,679 --> 01:42:54,119
at the beginning, she was open to it. And
then later on, she got uncomfortable with ...

961
01:42:54,119 --> 01:42:59,239
like you, by the way, to be fair, so the
audience doesn't think I'm cornering you, ...

962
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,439
let's be very clear. Let's bring him in here
then, because I'm not releasing this

963
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:13,319
he came to ask me if I was willing to name
some names. So then Tony's going to be hel...

964
01:43:13,319 --> 01:43:20,519
Yeah. So let's hold Tony accountable. Tony,
if you can come here, buddy. Tony,

965
01:43:20,519 --> 01:43:28,439
come on, Tony. So when you told me you
proposed for her to be a guest on a podcast,

966
01:43:31,239 --> 01:43:44,519
I don't remember. I don't remember. But I
don't remember saying that I wanted to nam...

967
01:43:44,519 --> 01:43:48,119
would never say that, because that's not
really what I normally would do. And you

968
01:43:48,119 --> 01:43:56,199
today. I thought you meant today. You went
and brought it up. But I must not have

969
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:07,079
Here's the point. The reason for it is like
Tony is never misled me. So when Tony says

970
01:44:07,079 --> 01:44:11,399
like, okay, cool, that sounds good. And I
don't have a problem with that. But for me...

971
01:44:11,399 --> 01:44:16,119
I've known your story. But you're saying I
want to come on naming names. That's not

972
01:44:16,119 --> 01:44:20,840
exactly what I would have. Would you say that
I, that I said I wanted to come on naming

973
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:24,599
That's not really how I would say it at all.
I was asked. I was considering it.

974
01:44:30,759 --> 01:44:41,159
Yeah. So well, he asked me right before we
came on, but no, but, but only reason I wa...

975
01:44:41,159 --> 01:44:46,920
this, because that's questioning the
integrity of the interviewer, which is me.

976
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:53,319
sit here. I'm not doing that. But hang on.
I'm not going to sit here and be cornered ...

977
01:45:00,279 --> 01:45:05,079
was just core. I'm not cornering you. I'm
being told, Hey, there's a lot of things. ...

978
01:45:05,079 --> 01:45:10,599
a point right now with everything that's
going on with Diddy, Epstein, all this stu...

979
01:45:10,599 --> 01:45:15,239
compelled to want to talk and maybe give some
names. That's a great. Let's have a

980
01:45:15,239 --> 01:45:20,359
before right before coming in here and said,
would you be willing to name some names of

981
01:45:25,639 --> 01:45:32,679
naming David Rockefeller. I didn't say he's
not alive. He's dead. He's dead. The perso...

982
01:45:32,679 --> 01:45:36,840
I'm not comfortable. Yeah, I totally get it.
And that's that's a different conversation...

983
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:43,799
separate those two. Okay, the dose to let's
qualify. One is you express the interest t...

984
01:45:43,799 --> 01:45:48,279
here for that reason to maybe talk. No, no,
no, it's not for that reason at all. I was

985
01:45:54,359 --> 01:45:59,879
podcast I've ever been on. And this is and
you have a very large reach. And I was a

986
01:45:59,879 --> 01:46:06,920
concerned just because of your political
views, frankly, I was a little concerned t...

987
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:11,079
because I do we didn't talk politics. No, you
brought up feminism. I didn't I didn't bri...

988
01:46:11,079 --> 01:46:15,159
Trump. I didn't ask you about I don't think
it's I don't think it's a political. No, b...

989
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:25,399
having a conversation from a father with four
kids who hear stories like this. And we

990
01:46:25,399 --> 01:46:29,399
of charities behind closed doors that we
don't publicly endorse because we don't wa...

991
01:46:29,399 --> 01:46:34,039
you know, there are certain things that we
will support and nobody knows about becaus...

992
01:46:34,039 --> 01:46:39,559
we are I'm involved in this in many directly
and many indirectly. But this is a very

993
01:46:39,559 --> 01:46:44,679
issue in my life. And so when these stories
come out, and I hear names of people that ...

994
01:46:48,759 --> 01:46:55,000
somebody that can do something about it, I
can't I'm not in it, you are. And I'm all

995
01:46:55,000 --> 01:47:00,359
the limelight for somebody to share some of
those things with others. So people can

996
01:47:00,359 --> 01:47:05,639
from perpetrators doing it again, repeatedly,
to younger children today, which is not fair.

997
01:47:05,639 --> 01:47:12,439
Somebody stole your youth. And I'm not okay
with that. And if we can do that to save i...

998
01:47:20,359 --> 01:47:23,959
handling things? Imagine the mother and the
father not having their kids next to them,

999
01:47:23,959 --> 01:47:27,479
when they put them to bed, when they put them
to sleep, when they hug them, when they ki...

1000
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:33,159
My three year old daughter this morning was
crying for no reason. Okay. And her and her

1001
01:47:33,159 --> 01:47:39,799
sister got into it. And I went downstairs to
check on her. She gave me a hug for 45

1002
01:47:45,959 --> 01:47:52,279
skin to skin when I kiss her neck and kiss
her cheek. And she's telling me daddy. I w...

1003
01:47:52,279 --> 01:47:57,479
every father and mother who is missing those
children, those children, I want more

1004
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:02,920
to it. So someone can do something about it,
whether they're former military, politicians,

1005
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:07,239
wealthy people that are willing to give money
to it. I want to bring attention to it. Th...

1006
01:48:12,279 --> 01:48:17,319
to talk about it. I give you that respect. I
know it's not easy. I know it's not easy t...

1007
01:48:17,319 --> 01:48:23,319
something like this. And it's not easy to
speak about it. And it is also not even no...

1008
01:48:23,319 --> 01:48:31,719
sort through what seem to be political views.
You see, I believe that politics on the whole

1009
01:48:40,359 --> 01:48:45,559
the last years. And so that is why I'm done
that though. Who's done that? Think about

1010
01:48:45,559 --> 01:48:52,119
that? Well, if you you're pretty smart, okay,
you've been around. Who do you think's don...

1011
01:48:52,119 --> 01:48:59,879
Who has the ultimate power? Well, I would say
that the people that I was used by,

1012
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:14,039
not just their slaves, but they wanted to
control everybody. But how did they,

1013
01:49:14,039 --> 01:49:18,599
how were they able to silence or get their
message out there?

1014
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:18,320
they? How were they able to silence or get
their message

1015
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:23,740
out there? What what's a tool that they use
in the 70s or the

1016
01:49:23,740 --> 01:49:27,900
80s or the 90s in the 70s? Pedophilia was,
for example, sold

1017
01:49:27,900 --> 01:49:32,520
quite a bit. There was a lot that was very,
you know, like the

1018
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:36,120
Blue Lagoon, for example, that's a very,
that's a very

1019
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:43,520
There was a lot. David Hamilton from the he
did bilitis. Now,

1020
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:48,480
the girls that were that were filmed by him
were being or

1021
01:49:48,480 --> 01:49:53,120
coming out saying that he raped them. You
see, the 70s, they

1022
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,760
were really pushing pedophilia. And it feels
like at the

1023
01:49:55,760 --> 01:50:01,440
moment, there's a new push again towards
pedophilia.

1024
01:50:01,440 --> 01:50:05,760
Yeah, but but where I was going with this is
they did it by

1025
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,880
social media. Well, social media is a tech
companies are also

1026
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:17,320
controlled. I know they're but who they
control by who the only

1027
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,720
guy that owns it that's conservative possibly
is a

1028
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:21,720
guy named Elon who used to be a Democrat. He
left when they

1029
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,120
realized they're insane. They've lost their
mind. So one

1030
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:28,360
person, but everybody else is on the other
side. So yeah, I

1031
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:30,920
remember, you know, when you're explaining
all this, I've

1032
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,400
shown these movies. There was a weird song
back in the days by

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01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:41,640
you remember this song, she's just 16 years
old. Remember that?

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01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:46,680
I mean, this guy's singing a song about you.
It's like, you

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01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:49,600
can find compilations of songs now where
they're all singing

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01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:53,320
about pedophilia. I read the lyrics. Here's
the lyrics. It

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01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:58,320
says she's just 16 years old. Leave her
alone. They said

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01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:08,920
to know if I could fly. I'd pick you up. I
take you into the

1039
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:12,880
night and show you way love like you've never
seen. This is a

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01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:15,560
grown man talking about a 16 year old and he
was asked in an

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01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:16,240
interview.

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01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:19,240
Otis Reading sitting on the dock of the which
which song the

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01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:23,480
song. She's weary. She's weary. And young
girls, they do get

1044
01:51:23,480 --> 01:51:28,120
weary. Wearing that same old Chevy dress. And
then just and

1045
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:38,800
you won't regret it. Yeah, well, look, we're
living a little

1046
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:43,320
tenderness. Yeah, you know, she's waiting,
just anticipating.

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01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:47,440
At least this guy didn't give the age. This
other guy's given the

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01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:52,440
age. She's young girls, young girls, young
girls. He's got the

1049
01:51:52,440 --> 01:51:56,160
audacity to say she's just 17. Do you know
what I mean? As the

1050
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:02,840
it was it was even in America right now. I
think the legal age

1051
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:05,320
in America, we're still talking about grown
men saying about a

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01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,760
17 year old. No, I know the same story. I'm
with you. I

1053
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:11,000
understand what you're saying. But as weird
as it sound, look at

1054
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:16,440
this. Even in US, some states, the age of
consent is 17 in New

1055
01:52:16,440 --> 01:52:21,360
York State, 15 in Arkansas, the national
average in US is 16.

1056
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:25,000
So some of the stuff is kind of a we maybe we
need to update

1057
01:52:28,039 --> 01:52:32,400
folks, we're gonna put the link to her book
quest for love below

1058
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:37,000
for you to be able to buy and support. It's
down there. We'll

1059
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:40,640
put it in the description and in the chat.
Please do support her

1060
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:47,120
cause and order her book. And again, I
appreciate you for coming

1061
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:51,480
down, sitting down and having this
conversation. I am sure as

1062
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:59,160
times, I think the audience won today,
because we brought more

1063
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:02,440
attention to this discussion. However they
see it, that's up

1064
01:53:02,440 --> 01:53:05,720
to them. But I think we did more good than
bad by having this

1065
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:09,160
conversation. I appreciate you for coming
out. And I like the

1066
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,360
fact that you never talked about Trump
because I don't like to

1067
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:14,079
talk about Trump. Okay, I don't like
politics. And if you were

1068
01:53:14,079 --> 01:53:16,520
gonna go there, I was gonna stop it. I was
not gonna be happy

1069
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,560
about it. I appreciate you. Thank you so
much. This was

1070
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,079
crazy when I tell you this, but the last 13
and a half years

1071
01:53:26,079 --> 01:53:29,280
I've been working on my first fiction book to
write ever

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01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:33,360
fiction book to write. And while I finished
this book a year

1073
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,940
ago, I got the strangest phone call about one
of the characters

1074
01:53:35,940 --> 01:53:38,320
in a book where the guy wanted to meet with
me and he read the

1075
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:42,000
book. And afterwards is like, wait a minute,
am I the villain in

1076
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:45,960
the book? This is a story about a character
named Asher, who is

1077
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:57,240
Iranian Revolution, linked to Savak, working
with the Shah,

1078
01:53:57,240 --> 01:54:00,560
that they escape and he gets recruited to a
secret society

1079
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:02,940
where when you go to the secret society, it's
been around for

1080
01:54:02,940 --> 01:54:05,220
a couple thousand years, they've developed
some of the craziest

1081
01:54:05,220 --> 01:54:08,200
leaders of all time. And they test you.
There's unique tests

1082
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:10,800
that they have at this society, where they
test to see your

1083
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:12,920
emotional mental toughness, one of the tests
that they have is

1084
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:15,280
very rigorous. It's purely mental. Of course,
there's a

1085
01:54:19,039 --> 01:54:22,240
if you're Syrian, if you're Persian, this is
a book, you're

1086
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,400
going to be reading and saying, holy moly,
this is the kind of

1087
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:26,800
stuff you talk about in here. Yes, if you're
somebody that's

1088
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:30,360
fascinated by history, this is a book for you
characters. There's

1089
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:34,240
a technology that this society secret society
builds, where you

1090
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:38,280
go into a vault, I won't spoil it for you
when you go down. They

1091
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:42,020
have a technology where you get to sit down
and watch and have a

1092
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:50,280
debate between Karl Marx and Ayn Rand. Karl
Marx is in the book

1093
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:54,100
who wrote Communist Manifesto. Ayn Rand who
wrote Atlas Shrug is

1094
01:54:54,100 --> 01:54:57,460
in the book, Marilyn Monroe explains the
concept of seduction

1095
01:54:57,460 --> 01:55:00,700
and sex in the book. When you read the book,
it's about

1096
01:55:00,700 --> 01:55:03,800
development of the next leaders in the world
and how they do it

1097
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,280
and how they've been doing it for many years.
And it's also

1098
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:10,880
about how to prevent the end of civilization
and how this

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01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,579
parenting book before, but if I ever wrote a
parenting book, this

1100
01:55:16,579 --> 01:55:19,220
is the closest thing to it because it's all
mindset, a

1101
01:55:19,220 --> 01:55:22,180
lot of crazy stories. Again, 13 and a half
years. Trust me, I

1102
01:55:22,180 --> 01:55:25,980
told myself, I will not publish this book
until I sell my

1103
01:55:25,980 --> 01:55:28,420
insurance company and I'm falling
disconnected from it,

1104
01:55:28,420 --> 01:55:31,620
where it's no longer my responsibility 100%.
When you

1105
01:55:31,620 --> 01:55:35,260
read this, if you're a creative person, if
you like fiction

1106
01:55:35,260 --> 01:55:38,660
books, if you enjoy Atlas Shrugged or if you
enjoy

1107
01:55:42,260 --> 01:55:46,120
reading this book. It's the creative side.
Business books

1108
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,740
is very easy. Here's how you do it. Here's
how this all works.

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01:55:48,740 --> 01:55:51,840
This is very creative. If you haven't placed
your order yet,

1110
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,920
now you can order on Simon and Schuster,
Amazon. I'm going to

1111
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:57,600
put the link up below somewhere here, maybe
even in my

1112
01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:03,160
profile. Go order the book and read it. I
sincerely, I've never

1113
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:06,680
written a book where I can't wait to read
your reviews to

1114
01:56:11,020 --> 01:56:13,820
journey and we have some plans with this book
here. If you

1115
01:56:13,820 --> 01:56:16,140
support the things that I work on, I would
appreciate you going

1116
01:56:16,140 --> 01:56:19,500
to reading the book, order the book on Amazon
and then post a

1117
01:56:19,500 --> 01:56:19,860
review.