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So I see we're going to talk about Royal Raymond Reif today, John. How did you first get involved with that stuff?

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Well, I started my research back in the... around 75.

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Well, I had got this fax paper over the fax machine, because that's what we had then, was fax machines.

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And I was very interested in it because of the microscope.

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You know, I always had a fascination with telescopes and microscopes, and I thought to myself,

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oh, that should be pretty easy to make. But it turns out that grinding lenses and things like that weren't exactly what I would call really easy.

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And so what happened was I started to read about the machine.

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So I started thinking to myself all these things that I was working on, right, that it's just an electrical signal.

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You know, and if you put an electrical signal in as frequency, because everything involves frequency all the time.

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And so I thought to myself, well, I'll just make a simple little oscillator, you know, with one of these timers.

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And I'll give it a shot, just hook it up to myself, right, and see if I notice any difference.

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Well, to tell you the truth, Pat, I didn't notice one thing.

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And so I researched more and I researched more, and then I ran across this guy, the name John Crane.

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Okay.

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So I searched desperately, you know, through stuff to try to find where can I call this guy, can I ask him questions, can I meet this rife, but rife was already dead, because he died in 71.

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Okay, yeah.

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And so I finally got a hold of John Crane.

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John Crane used to work with rife, or what?

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Yeah, yeah, John Crane, he took rife under his wing and fed him alcohol, you know, and that's how he kept rife.

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But he actually met him through a drafting set, you know, that he saw at a pawn store.

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And so, and I guess rife told him the story of his life.

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Rife was in San Diego, wasn't he?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, down on Loma Street or something, his laboratory was in Point Loma.

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The bridge's home was his laboratory.

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And so what I did was I got a hold of this guy on the phone and I said, what's this involved?

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Because I think at that time my aunt was dying of cancer.

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And so Ron and I and Gary and everybody were looking for alternative medicines rather than to go through whatever the medical profession wanted you to do.

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So I started talking to him and I finally, I was at Gamma Electronics at the time.

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We were doing big amplifiers and stuff like that.

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And I got Gamma Electronics interested in going down to San Diego.

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So I think it was George Fentzel, myself, and Hank Chappell who started the Gamma Electronics.

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And we got there and I was just totally blown away because you couldn't walk in the house.

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There was that many, there was piles of papers and this over there and this over there, sort of like this shop in a way.

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So you're saying it was really disorganized or?

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Oh, it was just terrible condition, just filthy dirty.

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Oh, okay.

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This was John Crane's house.

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Yeah, John Crane's house.

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Yeah.

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And so everybody, he took me, took me down this pathway into the basement.

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And in the basement, here was this, all different kinds of things.

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Some machines, you know, which didn't look familiar to me.

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But here was this virus microscope all taken apart, the actual big gigantic microscope.

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And so I thought to myself, well, you know, maybe something can be made out of this.

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If I can get John Crane, you know, maybe we can pay him to do something with us or take him out of this condition that he's in, right?

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And maybe rebuild this microscope and get it to go and everything.

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But Reif's original training was as a...

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Bacteriology.

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Was it? Okay.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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But he's, you know, Reif was a different kind of guy.

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Reif, no matter what he put his mind to, he could do it well.

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So he not only did mechanics real well, like on the built engines,

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he built, you know, worked for, I think it was the microscope company and where he learned he'd bacteriology in the university where he did pictures and got an award for doing that and stuff.

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So Reif was kind of a unique guy.

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But I want to go back to this thing that was in the basement.

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Now, let me explain this basement to you, Pat.

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You went down these stairs and it was dirt.

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I mean, here's this optical marble in the dirt downstairs.

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It wasn't a concrete floor or anything like that?

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No, no, it was just all moist and musty and just tons of dirt, you know, and I said, what would it take to get this back together?

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He said, oh, it would take a lot of money to get this back together, I said.

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So I got thinking to myself and I left.

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And then I called him up and I said, well, we'd like to order three of your cancer machines.

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And of course, to my surprise, when I went to pick them up, they were just some signal generator that he bought off the shelf.

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He charged us, I think, five hundred dollars apiece.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, five or six hundred dollars.

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It was there and three hundred dollars for the manual that he had written.

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And I got them back to the shop and I said, what good is this?

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I mean, I got them on my bench, you know, for audio work.

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And these were something that allied put together, something they were just cheap, you know, IC generators.

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So I called him back up and I said, well, what would it take?

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In the meantime, he had got this guy, Dr. Strecker, Dr. Strecker, OK, was trying to contact him, too, because he had read about him.

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Is he a medical doctor?

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Yeah, he was a medical doctor.

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He was actually a Ph.D. in pharmacology.

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He was taking the medical doctor.

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He's taking care of my aunt.

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OK.

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And he got a hold of me on the telephone and he says, well, I'd like to go, you know, I'd like to go down there.

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So we took off.

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We went and I said to Strecker on the way, let's just see, you know, what he wants to come and work with us to make all this work again,

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because Strecker was really interested in getting this machine to work.

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I'm sure.

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And so we went down there and we had a long talk with him, of course.

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The guy could eat.

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We took him to lunch and the guy probably ate three meals at lunchtime.

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So we're looking at each other, right?

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And we're going, this guy's starving.

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You know, the money we gave him, he obviously owns the house because it's not, you know,

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nobody's helping and it's filthy dirty.

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And so we, Strecker and I talked him into, we'll pay your bills.

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What you owe if you come and work with us.

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Well, about two weeks later, all this stuff starts showing up in my shop.

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The microscope.

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Yeah.

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The microscope.

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You know, big ray tubes, but no real machine.

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No real Reif machine because he didn't have it.

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And so I was saying to myself, well, if he doesn't have the real machine,

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how are we going to make this machine?

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Right.

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And he would always say to me, oh, it's in the book.

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You know, and that was a drawing of the AZ-58 with John Crane and John Marsh

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and Reif made, but Reif really, I don't think really, I think Reif knew that that wasn't going to work,

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but never said anything because it didn't work.

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And so what happened after that was he ends up in Sylmar.

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He brings all his lenses.

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He brings everything that he could get out of that basement up to Sylmar.

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Okay.

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And in the meantime, he lived with Dr. Strecker.

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So Dr. Strecker would bring him to work in the morning before he went to the hospital

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and then pick him up on the way home from the hospital.

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But me and he had to feed him first.

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We had to go to dinner every night.

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We had to go to lunch every day and this guy ate like there was no tomorrow.

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Was he very overweight?

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Oh, no.

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Oh, no, John Crane was probably, I guess, 70-something then.

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Okay.

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And I would question him all day long about this stuff.

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Meanwhile, Gary gave me my drafting table in Sylmar

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and he was drawing the pieces that were missing from the microscope

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and then he would hand me the sheet.

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You know, and I'd go back in the machine shop like we have here

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and I would cut out the things for the lenses and the...

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And then came the day, Pat, where he said,

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we need to get prisms because that microscope had prisms in the barrel.

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You know, they'd zigzag in the barrel.

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They would zigzag.

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Okay.

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They wouldn't let the light rays cross.

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And so we...

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I must have drove for miles and miles and miles looking for glass prisms,

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you know, going to one optical place, then to another optical place.

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And this stuff was...

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What were you doing then?

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This stuff was not cheap.

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Meanwhile, we're paying his bills and we're buying, you know,

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four and $500 prisms that are optical glass

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when he knew that that's not what was in the microscope.

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What was in the microscope were quartz prisms.

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And he had them hit.

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So he was just making something to put in.

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He was just making work is what I was saying to myself, right?

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Yes.

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Meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out what the actual machine is.

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And I said to him, John, where is the paperwork for Reiff's real frequencies?

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I don't know.

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He would say, so well, I had them and then they disappeared.

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And then this went there and that went over there and something went somewhere else.

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And so he would always quote to me, said, oh, 400 cycles for this.

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You know, 1275 for this.

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And I'm going to myself.

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These are just standard audio frequencies.

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What good is that going to do when I bought this generator from you?

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I hooked it up to myself.

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I didn't feel anything.

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You know, I couldn't tell any difference.

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The only thing that you could tell is when you got it to low frequency,

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your arms were going, you know, just like a Tim's unit, almost like a muscle relaxant unit.

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And so I said to myself, this can't be right.

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So in the meantime, I was talking to Tom Bearden and I said, you know, Tom, I have the microscope here.

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What?

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So Tom, I have the microscope here.

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I said, I have John Crane here and the microscope and everything.

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I said, and we're I'm trying to build this unit to kill this stuff under the mic.

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Meanwhile, Strucker spent a lot of money.

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Strucker bought an incubator, which we still have to that day.

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He brought in a laboratory microscope.

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He brought in slides.

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He brought in auger dishes.

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We had everything.

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And I says to Bob Strucker one day, I says, Bob, I said, what what is your culture and all this stuff out here?

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And you're growing it here in the shop.

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I said, what if somebody gets sick?

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I'll just give antibiotics.

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That was what he said.

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I said, OK, I'm happy with that.

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You know, don't have to come for an office visit.

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You'll just bring them in and we'll get them right.

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So.

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So in the meantime, both of us are questioning John Crane about the frequencies, but I'm sitting there trying to think of a machine.

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You know, because I knew everything was frequency related because Reif's papers indicated that there was a different frequency for every little virus and bacteria.

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And there were a limited amount, Pat.

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There probably weren't more than.

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Thirty six that he found over the course of time.

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Because then he got disrupted.

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And ended up in court.

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And so.

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I kept asking John, where did you get these frequencies?

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Oh, right.

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And I said, well, I can't be right, John, because, you know, if you take 100 cycles and you yeah, you can get your muscles to move 50 cycles and get your muscles to move.

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And this and that.

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I said to myself, no, they can't be right, because.

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It had to be a mix of something, something had to be mixed.

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So I started developing.

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I'm going to go into this now.

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I started developing this machine.

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And this was one of the first prototypes that I talked to Tom Bearden about was this machine right here.

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And in the meantime, Tom Bearden says, I'm going to fly out with Doris.

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And I said, well, I think I can have this machine done.

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By the time that you fly out here.

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And so I said to myself.

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I got to get busy.

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So I really was not paying attention to John Crane.

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Meanwhile, what John Crane was doing.

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Was he was calling up people from the office.

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And he was telling them to come down and he treat them right there.

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With the machines that he had.

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And so when Dr. Strucker and I found out that he was treating people.

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I mean, Dr. Strucker just blew it.

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Yeah, he just said, what did I tell you?

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He goes, you're not a medical doctor and you are treating people for diseases that you know for a fact that we can't prove that you cure them.

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So it's pretty, you know, right up front with them.

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This doctor was willing to.

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Take in.

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Culture out bacteria.

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And he did he cut the cultured out strep and he cultured out.

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African sleeping sickness.

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He just cultured everything out.

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And then what we would do is as we were trying these specific generators.

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Under the microscope, we'd watch to see if we could regrow them.

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And of course, everything regrow.

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In the meantime, he would what John Crane would walk out of the office.

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You'd have a magnet or something in a satchel.

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And you go, I'll show you boys right now that this won't grow.

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And he'd open up the incubator.

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And he'd stick the magnet on top of the agar dishes.

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And Strucker and I would look at each other and go.

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And laugh.

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Next day, Pat, we would come in and that bacteria was still growing.

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So then we'd go and we'd get John Crane and say, see.

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That magnet isn't going to do anything.

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Well, I can tell you that that magnet is going to do something.

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And Strucker and I would say, yeah, it's going to do something.

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It's going to magnetize stuff.

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It's going to ruin the tapes that we got here.

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You know, where you can't listen to them no more.

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And he was just like an impossible guy once he got something in his head.

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So what was his background? Was he a scientist?

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He was a draftsman.

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That was it? He wasn't a scientist anyway?

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No, he met Reif at the pawn shop for the drafting set.

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I guess he really took an interest.

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And then of course, John Marsh, his buddy.

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You know, this was during the 50s, 57, 50s, during around there.

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So I didn't know any of them.

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You know, but I heard that they went to jail.

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And what Strucker and I were saying to ourselves, geez, this guy's calling people.

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And he's telling them to come in here.

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And he's got that signal generator that you bought.

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I bought it, right?

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And he's treating people with it.

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Is that why he went to jail?

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Yeah.

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Yeah?

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Yeah, they were treating somebody and nothing, I guess, didn't work.

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Of course it wasn't going to work because that's not what this machine's about.

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You know, Reif stated very plainly that they weren't audio frequencies.

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You know, they were in the AM band and some in the megahertz band.

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Two of them, I think, two or three of them are in the megahertz band.

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We'll get into that.

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Your cancer, Reif said, is very high in frequency.

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And then there's other ones that are very low.

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But originally, Pat, Reif, how Reif saw that this was going to work was,

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if you think about it back, I guess you would say the 20s and the 30s,

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they didn't have frequency generators like we have today.

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He used audio couplers.

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You know, for somebody that's not familiar with an audio coupler,

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that's a machine, you know, that's coils that you slide in and out until you get,

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and it makes it look like an oscillator.

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And so you get different frequencies by moving the coil in and out.

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And they call that an audio coupler.

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So I think what Reif did was he might have seen where he cultured out, you know,

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E. coli or something like that.

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And he saw a slight little wiggle in it when he got,

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I mean, that's as good as the microscope was at that time.

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Reif couldn't work with that microscope, so he had to develop, you know,

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the biggest virus microscope.

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He had to see at least 15,000 times.

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You know, I think you could go up to 20,000, maybe 30,000 times with it.

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Meanwhile, here we are looking at this marble.

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And John Crane is drawing stuff,

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but we're not getting anywhere with this thing.

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We're driving all over the place looking for lenses.

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We're driving all over the place looking for prisms.

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It's costing hundreds of dollars, which Gamma paid for.

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And Gamma, who was Gamma?

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Gamma Electronics was the amplifier company in Paramount, California.

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And I had a research lab up in Somar that was part of Gamma.

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And so we just put all that stuff up there.

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And so the more I think about it, then I finally got frustrated one day,

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and I said, okay, John, you must know where there's one Reif machine.

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He said, yes, I do.

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And I'm gone.

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Oh, I might be getting somewhere here, right?

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A Reif machine or a Reif microscope?

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A Reif machine, a real machine.

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A machine, not the microscope.

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Not the microscope, the machine.

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And I said, okay, where do we go?

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Well, the last I remember was down over here towards Hollywood and blah, blah, blah.

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So I take off in the car.

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And I said, well, do you know the doctor that had the machine?

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He says, yes.

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He goes, that machine was the doctor hid behind the wall.

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But I know where it is.

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I think I know where it is.

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So we end up in the Hollywood Hills, you know, behind Beverly Hills.

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And we're driving up this street, and he's looking at the buildings,

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and he says, I think it was that house right there.

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So I stop, go to the door, knock on the door.

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I get to the door, only to get the door slammed in my face.

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So by saying, are you kidding?

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There's no such person that lives here.

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So we never did find it.

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We must have wasted 40, maybe 40 days driving around looking for a machine.

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And one day I was down there, and I said, as long as I'm down here by Marina Del Rey,

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I think I'll just take my boat out.

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Whether they get on it or they don't get on it, I'm going to take the boat out.

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So I took the boat out, and I went out for a while.

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I thought about it all, and I said, no.

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I said, this isn't going to work.

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Put the boat away, got them all in the car and drove back.

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I said, this isn't going to work.

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I said, John, I said, are you sure you just don't have any notes?

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So he did have some notes that he took out of a book.

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And he had pictures, of course, and he said this was this and this was this.

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Because Reif took a lot of pictures of different kinds of viruses and things,

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cancer virus and what it looked like under the microscope.

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And I said to myself, okay, it says here that it's 1706 something.

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You know, in these notes.

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Of course, that wasn't right.

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Reif wasn't reading the frequencies right.

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In the end, we found out because Hoylen corrected all those frequencies.

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That was his engineer, Reif's engineer.

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Because I remember from John Crane playing a transcript where Hoylen said,

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Reif thought he had the frequencies, but he didn't.

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Now, remember, Milbanks Johnson, the guy that wanted to make this machine work

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and was running that clinic and everything, the sanitarium,

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he wanted an electronic engineer to make the machine so it would be portable.

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Because before it was all these boxes, you know,

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which was standard stuff right off the shelf, Kennedy tube equipment.

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Now, the funny thing about this, Pat, is why would nobody ever see this?

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And so I just said to myself, I can't do this anymore.

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I just have to start from scratch.

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Meanwhile, Tom Bearden comes.

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You know, and Tom Bearden's looking that microscope over and taking the pictures

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because really it was a beautiful microscope.

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Probably about 200 or 300 pounds.

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Wow.

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Yeah, big base on it and everything.

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And so I get going.

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I start putting stuff like this together.

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I talk to Tom Bearden about the pump wave and everything.

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And he said, oh, yeah, the Peoria machine, John, he says, you know,

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that didn't work unless they were in this magnetic blah, blah, blah field and all this stuff.

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And so I started to put a machine together like this that mixed all these free.

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And this is the exact machine.

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And this is the one that I handed a paper out on,

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starting with all these oscillators at different frequencies and one fundamental oscillator.

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And then, of course, amplifying that and running it into a transformer.

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And then I had a pump wave, which was very mandatory in this type of system.

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John, before you get into the pump wave deeper, I just had a question.

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It must be really frustrating to you to work with John Crane.

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Oh, yeah, it was very, very headstrong.

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OK.

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In other words, once he got an idea in his head,

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you weren't changing John Crane's mind about anything.

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He would just burst this.

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As an example, I was asking him about the prisms in the microscope.

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Yeah.

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You know, before I said, John, if you know that Reif used all quartz lenses,

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why would you want to be putting this microscope back together again

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with lenses that aren't equivalent to what Reif had?

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Well, it doesn't make any difference.

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I've built this and this and this and it really didn't make a difference.

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Now, don't get me wrong about John Crane.

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I mean, he was a good draftsman.

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He built a couple of microscopes for doctors, and those doctors said they worked great,

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you know, probably 5,000 diameters or something like that.

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And he patented a, I think he applied for a patent.

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I don't know if he ever got it.

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I never investigated it, but he did a projection microscope where I think you can find that online.

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OK.

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But as far as him telling you the truth about things, he had little secrets.

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And he would play a game with you.

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You would ask him something one day, and I probably was a little bit tricky for him

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because I would change the question the next day and probably draw him a little bit buggy.

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And I would get him into conversations for hours about Reif, about where's the machine.

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You don't know.

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Here's my suspicion, Pat.

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There was a doctor in LA that had a machine.

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But that doctor took the faceplate off that machine because I remember John Crane saying something like that,

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that they had changed the front of the machine somehow.

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What do you mean the faceplate? Like the name?

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The name tag on the machine.

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Because right there was, you know, Reif Labs or whatever was on that machine.

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The name tag.

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Yeah, the name tag on the machine.

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Now, my suspicion is that Jeff Garf...

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I was going to ask you about him too.

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Who has reproduced the MW, which is a multi-wave oscillator, you know, this which calls a MOPA.

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But when I moved up here, you see, I probably brought that MOPA back to life

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because I remember building the machine, which...

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And there's one upstairs here. We could drag it down and look at it.

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But the thing is that I remember doing that, putting it on the Internet and Reif.org.

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Yeah.

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You know. But you got to remember too, I was working with Lynn Kenney.

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I was working, I was talking to Jeff Garf.

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Jeff Garf used to come and visit me and I was talking to Stan Truman of Reif.org.

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Plus I was on the Reif sites, you know, doing all different kinds of machines,

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multi-wave oscillators and everything that had to do with this.

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But the thing that...

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When Jeff Garf told me that the Royal Reif, you know, history,

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that he had put this thing up and go download the PDF and read the PDF,

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and you'll understand the whole thing, you know,

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not everybody can download that and understand the whole thing,

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but the thing about it was that it made perfect sense to me when I read it,

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of how it actually operated, what actually, how it operated.

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And I was wondering to myself, because the more I thought about driving a crane around,

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you know, looking for this machine that was sealed, if that didn't come,

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that was the only surviving machine, because guess what?

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The machine that Jeff Garf got had no faceplate, no name.

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So are you saying that, do you think that might be a machine that was sealed in a doctor's office?

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Well, he got that from a Dr. Low.

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But where did Dr. Low get it from?

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Yeah. You see, because you mentioned a little earlier

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that a machine had been sealed up in the wall in some doctor's office.

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That's what he told me.

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Yeah, which sounds really sort of skull-duggery-tasting.

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I mean, this guy would tell you things and you'd go,

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okay, John, let's go find that. I would.

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Yeah.

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Dr. Stuecker, not so much, because Dr. Stuecker lived with him enough,

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you know, taking care of him at night to figure out that maybe it's just BS.

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Yeah.

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And I was more investigative towards the type of thing,

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okay, John, if you're talking about it, let's go get it.

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Let's go find it.

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Because I have a pretty open mind.

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I mean, I was conventionally trained, you know, in electronics and everything.

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But I still had an open mind or I wouldn't have worked with Tom Bearden.

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You know, Tom Bearden, on the other hand, I was discussing everything that I was doing with it.

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And I said, you and Doris need to come out here.

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And they flew out.

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And Tom took all kinds of pictures of this microscope disassembled.

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Yeah.

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Where they are, I have no idea.

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Where anybody, where any of this stuff went, I have no idea.

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Wherever the machine that did the zapping under the microscope went, I have no idea.

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But I remember keeping a copy of the diagram of the machine, you know, so it doesn't end there, Pat.

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You know, this goes on with John Crane because after we I'll just jump a little bit ahead in the story.

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But then I'll go back.

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Okay.

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When we did get this to work under the microscope, that was Stryker's microscope.

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Actually, I don't think it was Stryker's microscope.

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I think it's the one that I bought.

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I made special slides.

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I made special capacitive slides, which the foil was it was more like a capacitor.

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00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:06,000
So when you put the virus on the slide, you know, when I had those 30 doctors in the room with Stryker and John Crane,

468
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:12,000
the first thing that came out of John Crane's mouth was he pots the circuits.

469
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:19,000
I didn't want John Crane selling my circuit off, you know.

470
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,000
One question. Why were there 30 doctors assembled? What was this not conference?

471
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:34,000
Stryker got them together to prove to them that the machine would actually kill these bacteria and these living creatures underneath the microscope.

472
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:41,000
It didn't at first. It took a lot of work to get it to where it finally worked.

473
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:49,000
And one of the things was the pump wave. That made a big difference in the machine, and that was discussed with Tom Bearden.

474
00:35:49,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Now, Tom Bearden was present to examine the microscope. He was not there when the 30 doctors were there.

475
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,000
Okay.

476
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,000
But.

477
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,000
Was it Tom that said the pump wave was necessary for this?

478
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,000

479
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,000
Yeah.

480
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,000

481
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Yeah.

482
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,000
And I said, okay, Tom, let's talk about this pump wave for a minute.

483
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:19,000
He didn't quite know what I was going to do for a pump.

484
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:33,000
You know, but I thought, okay, maybe that'll carry the frequency, you know, which was modulated on this wave, which I drew right here.

485
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,000
You know, across this capacitive slide, and it'll kill this stuff.

486
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,000
Well, when I did that.

487
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,000
And these doctors were in the room and they saw it, each one.

488
00:36:46,000 --> 00:37:02,000
And if you made a mistake, Pat, if you swabbed the slide, and then you put that swab back in the culture, they were all dead.

489
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,000
You could not get them to grow back for nothing.

490
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,000
You had to wash that jar out. You had to steam sterilize that jar.

491
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:20,000
You had to leave it. Then you had to regrow the culture again. And then if you made that mistake again, they were dead.

492
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,000
Yeah.

493
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:27,000
I mean, I did not even realize what Tom was talking about.

494
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:36,000
You know, until it hit me like a light bulb, that once this pump wave is involved, it carries it in.

495
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,000
Yeah.

496
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:43,000
And that frequency stays in the cells. Somehow it gets in there and stays there.

497
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,000
Okay.

498
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,000
Now, I'm not a medical doctor.

499
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,000
Right.

500
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,000
And I make no claims for any of this stuff to do anything. But I'm just telling you.

501
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,000
You're just saying what...

502
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,000
I'm telling you...

503
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Research is...

504
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,000
I'm telling you the story of exactly what happened.

505
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Right.

506
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,000
And believe me, I made this mistake when I was making the machine.

507
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:12,000
And it cost me days and days and days to try to get these things to regrow.

508
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:22,000
And I'm saying, you know, Tom Bearden's right about that. There has to be this pump wave that's involved.

509
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:30,000
And we called it four-wave mixing. You know, Tom called it that. Not John, Tom.

510
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:40,000
And so I said to myself, damn. But I never thought anything about it, Pat. I was so...

511
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,000
You know, I was so... It was a problem having this guy there.

512
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,000
Right.

513
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Taking care of this problem and that problem with him and this problem and the next problem.

514
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:56,000
And oh, by the way, I got to go over here and get this. And do you have, you know, like $200?

515
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,000
And do you have $300 over here and $500 over here?

516
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,000
You could not get around how much money this...

517
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:14,000
I used to just call up the CEO and say, I need $1,000. Okay.

518
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:20,000
And I'd get the $1,000 and one day it'd be gone. You know, he had it all gone already.

519
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:33,000
And then he'd say, well, we need another $500 for this or we need another $200 for this or we need another $1,000 to get this or to get me out of trouble over here. I need this.

520
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,000
You know, and so I would do it because I was interested in...

521
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,000
Yeah.

522
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000
I gave him my word.

523
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Is he still around?

524
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:47,000
No, he's dead. He died shortly after the lawsuit. But we'll get into that.

525
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:56,000
So, see, the thing about John Crane is he sold everything. He didn't tell anybody that he sold it.

526
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,000
But he never gave the item that he sold.

527
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:08,000
You know, so after we did all this work, all this research work on the microscope and on these, you know, trying to get this machine.

528
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,000
But I want to go back to the doctors.

529
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,000
Okay.

530
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:25,000
We get it to work. Dr. Strecker verifies it. He invites 30 doctors.

531
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:41,000
I gave each doctor got a demonstration one right after the other. In other words, got to take a clean swab, put it on the slide, got it in focus under this microscope.

532
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:50,000
That doctor watched and I say, okay, now I'm going to hit the button. Bang. Dead.

533
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,000
They all got to see the same thing because they all got to witness it for themselves.

534
00:40:54,000 --> 00:41:00,000
The first thing was you potted everything. We don't know what's in there. This could be a trick.

535
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:07,000
The next thing was we could never do this. We'll lose our jobs.

536
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Oh, sure. Yeah.

537
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Yeah. Yeah. That went on and on and on. And we never.

538
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:21,000
They were making too much money, you know, with with whatever they were doing. Yeah.

539
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000
And I didn't blame them. Yeah.

540
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:31,000
You know, they were being pretty honest standing in that room that they were going to be, you know, that they could never get into anything like this.

541
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Yeah.

542
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:39,000
And like I say to everybody, if you're going to do this, you got to do it on your own.

543
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,000
It's not on my recommendation to you to do it.

544
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,000
You know, if you're interested in it, do it. Yeah. Do your own research work.

545
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:58,000
John didn't tell you, you know, that you're going to cure this person because the word cure.

546
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:04,000
Is the downfall here. You can't cure anything.

547
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Because the minute you cure something, they're going to be after you.

548
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:18,000
You can only mask the symptoms. You can only treat.

549
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Yeah. Yeah. Well, mask them. You know, but.

550
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000
I don't think you can treat people if you're not a doctor either.

551
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:31,000
So what happened is after this thing worked and the doctors were in the room, I had two prototypes.

552
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:40,000
I had one that I used at the microscope and that one at the microscope I gave to Tom Bearden and he took that back with him.

553
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,000
OK. Doris liked it and Tom liked it and it felt good to them.

554
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,000
So they took it and I gave it to him.

555
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,000
The other one.

556
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:59,000
John Crane, when I wasn't there, was starting to treat people with leukemia.

557
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Oh, my God. So guess what?

558
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:11,000
One day a guy brings back his report from the doctor's office on his count or whatever it was.

559
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,000
And the count went. Yeah.

560
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,000
And Dr. Strecker, I've never seen him get that mad in my whole life.

561
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,000
I mean, he just wasn't that type of guy.

562
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:31,000
But he lectured John Crane and says, You cannot treat people.

563
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,000
But he did it anyway.

564
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,000
And he was charging him money. Meanwhile, we were paying his bills.

565
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:44,000
So that's the kind of guy that I was dealing with.

566
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Plus I had to drive him everywhere that he wanted to go. That was part of my deal.

567
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,000
Didn't he have a driving license?

568
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,000
Well, he didn't have a car.

569
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Didn't make any difference if he didn't have an arms license.

570
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:04,000
But so I mean, I chased things. I chased machines.

571
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,000
And I just did my best to try to work with the guy.

572
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:16,000
Until one day, the AMA showed up.

573
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:22,000
They sent out somebody talked, probably this guy.

574
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:29,000
And they showed up and they came there. And a good thing, the machinery wasn't there.

575
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,000
I had taken it out. After that, I had taken it.

576
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,000
And I brought it home and put it in the closet. I just left it.

577
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Because the only thing in the shop were amplifiers and a microscope.

578
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,000
And then what are they going to do?

579
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,000
So you took them out so that John Crane couldn't treat anymore?

580
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Right.

581
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,000
Of which he got totally pissed off. And he took off.

582
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,000
On a bus.

583
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,000
And so I had the locks changed on the shop. Like, yes, I did.

584
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,000
You know, I'm telling you, I did.

585
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,000
He came back. He couldn't get in.

586
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,000
The one thing that I didn't want was the AMA there.

587
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,000
Right.

588
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,000
And, you know, going to take everything.

589
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:19,000
So John Crane goes back to San Diego and he writes a lawsuit. A bogus lawsuit.

590
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:24,000
And he demands $20 million in the lawsuit.

591
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,000
Which is online. Anybody can go find it online.

592
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:35,000
And he never told us that he had sold the microscope to Barry Lines.

593
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,000
That was another name from the past, yeah.

594
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,000
He never told Stryker or I that he had sold the microscope.

595
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:50,000
And so Barry Lines got a court order to come and get the microscope.

596
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:58,000
Of which Gamma Electronics then got the same order.

597
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Right.

598
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,000
And so we made arrangements. Crane was locked out.

599
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,000
I wouldn't let him come back.

600
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,000
Right.

601
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:15,000
He had taken a bus all the way to San Diego and then he didn't know what was going to happen to this microscope.

602
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:24,000
See? Because he didn't realize that Barry Lines had got a court order to come and get the microscope.

603
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:31,000
So I remember George and a few other people picking this thing up.

604
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,000
And the sheriff's car was parked out front to come and get it.

605
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,000
And all the sheriff did was open his trunk.

606
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:46,000
And he tells them, throw the microscope in the trunk.

607
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:52,000
In other words, don't lay it down. Just throw it in the trunk.

608
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Of course then we were all heartbroken.

609
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,000
Because we didn't get to finish this microscope.

610
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:09,000
I was able, after we made the prism holders,

611
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:19,000
I was able to light Reif's light underneath, turn the prisms and watch this, the light change colors.

612
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,000
Okay.

613
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:29,000
And I was able to see the light through the microscope. So you know what? It might have worked.

614
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,000
Hmm.

615
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,000
But by then it was too late.

616
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,000
But surely the microscope was not part of the treatment.

617
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:46,000
No, no, no. But you got to understand, for Reif to do what he did, he had to be able to see it alive.

618
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,000
Right. Okay, yeah.

619
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:54,000
Yeah, you got to be able to see this thing alive. An electron microscope does not.

620
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,000
Yeah.

621
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,000
It's a dead specimen.

622
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Right.

623
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,000
Yeah, it shows you what it looks like and everything. And how do you know it really looks like that?

624
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,000
Yeah.

625
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:10,000
You know, you're just seeing a still image of something that can magnify this electron microscope.

626
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Yeah, it's fine. But how do you find the right frequency for the thing if you can't see it alive?

627
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,000
Yeah, yeah.

628
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:27,000
You got to remember Reif, when he first found the frequency, I think it was for E. coli or something, or B. coli.

629
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Hmm.

630
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:37,000
He found the frequency and then he noticed when he came back that these things weren't alive.

631
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Yeah.

632
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:44,000
So he repeated the experiment with the same frequency until he did it a couple hundred times.

633
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,000
Yeah.

634
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:55,000
And Reif, I could understand, had the patience because the way Crane talked, that he could sit for hours and hours and hours at that microscope.

635
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Running through all these frequencies on these old Kennedy machines until he found the one that killed it.

636
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,000
And then he would culture it ten or fifteen times to make sure that was the frequency.

637
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,000
Yeah.

638
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:15,000
So, that's a little more of the information about John Crane.

639
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:22,000
But what John Crane could never tell me that was important was what were these frequencies.

640
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,000
Mm-hmm.

641
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,000
You know, and how did the real machine work, John?

642
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Yeah.

643
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,000
Well, it's in the book.

644
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:38,000
I said, John, anybody that looks at that diagram that's in the book can't understand that at all.

645
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,000
Instead of a tube, there was a socket.

646
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Mm-hmm.

647
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Well, that's fine.

648
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,000
You know, and this resistor was drawn just like the part.

649
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:54,000
In other words, it was drawn just like this tip with no value.

650
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,000
And it went to somewhere on these sockets, right?

651
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,000
And I kept asking him, I kept saying, okay, what's the tube?

652
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Well, you got the tube right there.

653
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:09,000
And I'd say, yeah, but what was this tube?

654
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,000
And he'd go, well, that could have been one of three tubes.

655
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000
Okay, John, what was this?

656
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Oh, that's one of those big coils.

657
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:24,000
Well, where, John, go out in my shop, and I've got a bunch of coils out there.

658
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,000
Show me what coil it was.

659
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Yeah.

660
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:31,000
And he'd walk out in the shop, and he'd look in the box, and he'd go, what was like this one?

661
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,000
You know, which is a big wire wound coil.

662
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,000
And I'd say, okay, where does this hook to?

663
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,000
I said, you can't see it in this diagram.

664
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,000
It's not clear.

665
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Well, I can't remember.

666
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:51,000
So that's what you were faced with over and over and over, Pat.

667
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:59,000
But when he saw this work is when those gears started to spin.

668
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,000
And he said he had it sold.

669
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:09,000
He already had five or six of them sold.

670
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,000
He had the money, but no machine.

671
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000
But no machine.

672
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,000
How did he get the money?

673
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,000
He took the money.

674
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,000
He got presales.

675
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,000
He presales, yeah.

676
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,000
He presold it.

677
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,000
Yeah, wow.

678
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:28,000
And I'm saying to myself, John, you can't sell my machine.

679
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,000
Right.

680
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,000
No, no, no, it's my machine.

681
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,000
I told you how to do it.

682
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,000
I said, John, you didn't tell me how to do this.

683
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,000
You weren't here doing this.

684
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,000
Oh, well, I told you how to do it and the frequencies and everything.

685
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,000
I said, I'm not using the frequencies that you're talking about.

686
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,000
Right.

687
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,000
That's not how I'm doing that.

688
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,000
And I said, plus, it's got different circuitry in it.

689
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:00,000
He says, yeah, but you took my old generator and you put this stuff in it.

690
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:06,000
And I said, well, yeah, I did.

691
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,000
I said, but you can't sell my machine.

692
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,000
He says, well, I can sell that machine.

693
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:22,000
And it just went back and forth and back and forth and back and forth on and on, you know, with you can't do this and you can't do that.

694
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,000
I said, I'm sort of tired of all this.

695
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:32,000
I said, you know, I really was interested in Reif and I really was interested in the microscope and everything.

696
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,000
I said, but this guy's got to go, I said to myself.

697
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,000
And Strecker came to the same conclusion.

698
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,000
This guy's got to go.

699
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,000
He's dangerous because he's medically treating people.

700
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,000
He doesn't have a license.

701
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,000
He's not a doctor.

702
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,000
And he doesn't know what he's doing.

703
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,000
No, he just.

704
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,000
Yeah, he knew what he was doing.

705
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,000
You know, he knew that he was getting five or six hundred dollars cash for each machine.

706
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,000
He already had five or six sold.

707
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:06,000
So he had a fistful of money and he was getting ready to do whatever he was going to do.

708
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,000
Meanwhile, I was paying his bills.

709
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,000
We were paying the electric bill down in his house.

710
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,000
That all stopped.

711
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,000
Yeah.

712
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:23,000
As soon as this guy did this in the AMA showed up, that's when I called the CEO and I said, I've had it.

713
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,000
I said, I'm not doing no more of this.

714
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:32,000
I said, you can just not even bother writing the checks.

715
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,000
So then he sued us.

716
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,000
He sued Barry Lyons.

717
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,000
He sued Tom Bearden.

718
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,000
What did he sue Barry Lyons for?

719
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,000
For the microscope.

720
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,000
Yeah.

721
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,000
He sued me for a steel ruler for 20 million dollars.

722
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,000
OK.

723
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,000
And here's the other thing he did.

724
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:56,000
At the time, he wrote his own lawsuit and he filed his own liens.

725
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:02,000
So he leaned everybody's house.

726
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,000
He leaned everybody's house.

727
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,000
And I had to go get this lawyer.

728
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:20,000
I had to go to each of these people and ask for $500 to get this attorney to go down to San Diego to get this thrown out of court as bogus.

729
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:26,000
But the lawsuit was for 20 million dollars and it was against unnamed on this thing.

730
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:33,000
Everybody was sued in this thing that ever did anything.

731
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:40,000
I think mine was for a six inch steel ruler.

732
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:53,000
Then he said I took from him, which I didn't take from him because when all the stuff was picked up from the shop, all the stuff that was there that he left there was packed up in a box and nobody touched anything.

733
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,000
I made sure of that.

734
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,000
And I made sure that it all got sent back.

735
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,000
And so that's John Crane.

736
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,000
Wow.

737
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:08,000
And it's not that he was a stupid man, Pat. He was not.

738
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:15,000
This guy had some good ideas and no money to do them with.

739
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:22,000
And so what he would do is he'd get somebody to come into a partnership with him.

740
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,000
Yeah.

741
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000
But they weren't ever going to get any money.

742
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000
He was a shark.

743
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,000
You know.

744
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,000
He was better than a shark, Michael.

745
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000
He was.

746
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,000
I mean, he got me pretty good.

747
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,000
Yeah.

748
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,000
You know, he got me for who knows, maybe $150,000.

749
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,000
Yes.

750
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:46,000
But the amplifier company was doing real good.

751
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:53,000
I think we were at probably close to a million a year.

752
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,000
What year was that, John?

753
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:00,000
That's around 83, 84, 85 right in there.

754
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,000
And you moved up here when?

755
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,000
Oh, I didn't move up here until 89.

756
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,000
89, thank you.

757
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:14,000
You know, and even when I moved up here, I continued my research and all this.

758
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,000
Although I didn't use it quite as much.

759
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,000
I mean, there were a lot of machines in between.

760
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:32,000
You know, I think we even took the SSG machine and used the waveform from it on pedals to treat too.

761
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,000
Okay.

762
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,000
On ourselves.

763
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,000
All the experiments were done on ourselves.

764
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:43,000
Like, that's why I never recommend, you know, I'm not giving them medical advice here.

765
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,000
I'm just saying.

766
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,000
You're just reporting what?

767
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:50,000
I'm just telling you my story about what this machine is.

768
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,000
Anyway, Pat, do you have any more questions?

769
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,000
Not right now.

770
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,000
That was pretty fascinating stuff about John Crane, though.

771
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:02,000
Well, the story is the story and that's exactly the way I remember it.

772
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,000
And I really didn't want to change anything.

773
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:12,000
I mean, there's a little bit more detail to it, but I figure that gives you the basic.

774
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,000
Yeah.

775
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,000
Scope of this.

776
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:19,000
Well, I read a book about it a while back and Barry Lyne is in there and John Crane and I.

777
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,000
Right.

778
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,000
That was like 20 years ago, sir.

779
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,000
So anyway, I'm going to go back to this.

780
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,000
This is basically what I did.

781
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:39,000
Was I combined all these oscillators in what they call a mixing bus so that they,

782
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,000
the frequencies would hit against each other.

783
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:54,000
In other words, so that I could generate these, these different frequency bands along the pump wave down here.

784
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:11,000
And so and then once that was done, you could, you could select the, the level with this amplifier that you wanted this mixing transformer to put up.

785
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:18,000
Because if you look at the diagram very closely, you see that the positive line, there's a light bulb here.

786
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,000
OK.

787
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:26,000
And that's if somebody shorted these electrodes, it would not burn out the transistor.

788
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,000
OK.

789
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:34,000
So the light bulb would just turn on and then what you would see with that light bulb is the, the frequency of the light.

790
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:39,000
You know, you could see the frequency in the light because the light would chatter.

791
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:48,000
And the pump wave again, I'm going to point out was mandatory in this and you could adjust the level on the pump wave.

792
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:54,000
And you didn't want amperage as far as current went.

793
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,000
You wanted micro amperes and milli amperes.

794
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:02,000
You wanted to be way down because you're passing this through your body.

795
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:11,000
And then what's happening is the frequencies and everything are creating these bands.

796
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,000
And they're beating and against each other and everything.

797
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,000
And they're making like like two tuning forks.

798
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,000
He hit one tuning fork and the other one vibrates.

799
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:25,000
And so that's how you have to shatter the virus or the bacteria or whatever.

800
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:37,000
So when we knew that, so we put a meter in here and we would just like maybe two microamps or three microamps or we could take it up to 10 milliamps if we wanted to.

801
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,000
You don't want to feel anything when the machine's running.

802
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,000
You don't want any stinging at the electrodes like what John Crane was doing.

803
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,000
OK.

804
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:56,000
If I remember right, when John Crane was treating people with a standard off the shelf generator, he would make the electrodes out of brass.

805
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00:00,000
And those people would hold the brass.

806
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,000
And then that brass would turn green after about a day or so.

807
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,000
So do you think if they were holding onto the electrodes, the sweat from their hands would turn green?

808
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:19,000
Yeah, that's exactly what was happening because John Crane was passing, you know, an extreme amount through them to where it would sting.

809
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,000
Right.

810
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,000
You don't want to feel any sting when you.

811
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,000
Why not?

812
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,000
Because it's not necessary.

813
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,000
That's just it's just painful.

814
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,000
Yeah.

815
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,000
And you don't want to use it.

816
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:38,000
You know, you know, what you want to be able to do is is be able to get this into you.

817
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,000
You just have the pump wave carry it in.

818
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,000
OK.

819
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:46,000
So you want to, you know, and you think about this for a minute.

820
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,000
This is a current that's running through you.

821
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,000
DC current.

822
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,000
So it's going through.

823
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,000
Right.

824
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,000
It's actually going through the cells and everything.

825
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,000
Yeah.

826
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,000
And what you want to deposit, what you want to do is you want to get this in there.

827
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,000
Yeah.

828
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,000
Yeah.

829
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,000
And to see that make sense, because when you get a pain, you tense up.

830
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,000
Yeah, exactly.

831
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,000
You don't want to do that.

832
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,000
Yeah.

833
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:21,000
So anyway, what we mixed in this machine and I wrote it here, we mixed 100 hertz, one killer, five killer, ten killer and 50 K.

834
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,000
That's about the max.

835
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:33,000
We could get at that time out of this device, out of the five five five, without doing a lot of weird stuff to it.

836
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,000
You know, building special stuff.

837
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,000
And we use this for the fundamental.

838
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,000
So this was the highest one.

839
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:45,000
You know, and I'll show you what I mean by that in a minute.

840
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,000
And that was the fundamental.

841
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,000
And these were beating against the fundamental.

842
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,000
So that's why we called it a mixing bus.

843
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,000
And then that was being amplified by an amplifier.

844
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:08,000
You know, at the time, which is I think it was like a two watt or three watt audio amplifier that could do 150 kilohertz in bandwidth.

845
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:15,000
And then, of course, it was capacitive coupled to just put the frequency into this one K.

846
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:21,000
So you could see everything mixed here on this one K.

847
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,000
OK.

848
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:32,000
And what would happen is it would when this thing, when the pump wave turned on, it would put the DC current through it.

849
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:37,000
And then it would be modulated on the on the current on the DC current.

850
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:41,000
And then it would, of course, it's switching on and off.

851
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:50,000
So it goes on and then you could see the frequency and then it goes off and it would keep doing that.

852
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:58,000
And that was set at about anywhere between seven point five and eight hertz.

853
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:02,000
Since that time, we've learned more about this pump wave.

854
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:07,000
And we found out that a little bit higher might be better.

855
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:15,000
So basically, this was the machine that Tom Bearden and Dr. Struecker and I built.

856
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,000
And this is the one we would not give John Crane the schematic to.

857
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:25,000
This is why we potted the machine, because that would have been gone.

858
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:30,000
And I had never seen anything and nobody would ever been known anything.

859
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,000
So.

860
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:37,000
Let me move on here with everybody.

861
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:41,000
But first of all, I'm going to explain to everybody once again.

862
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,000
I'm not a medical doctor.

863
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,000
I can't give you advice.

864
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,000
I can't tell you whether or not this will work.

865
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:59,000
So don't ever say John Badini said this will do this.

866
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,000
Anyway.

867
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,000
We're going to get a little bit detailed here.

868
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:09,000
OK, this is going to be a lot more technical than people think,

869
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:17,000
because generating the correct frequencies from the real machine.

870
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:22,000
If it wouldn't have been for Jeff Garth, as I said, getting the real machine,

871
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:27,000
nobody would have never been able to figure out how this worked.

872
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,000
Because.

873
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:38,000
As you asked earlier, Pat, about Richard Hoylan, you had asked me that question.

874
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,000
And Richard Hoylan was Reif's engineer.

875
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:47,000
And what Richard Hoylan did was he actually was hired.

876
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,000
He went into the laboratory.

877
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:57,000
Reif dialed the old tube Kennedy equipment, which was standard off the shelf.

878
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,000
Now.

879
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,000
Let me say one thing to everybody.

880
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:07,000
That at that time, the maximum frequency that these.

881
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:13,000
Receiver regenerative receivers did was two megahertz max.

882
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,000
So.

883
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,000
Everything that Reif found.

884
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,000
Had to be under the two megahertz.

885
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,000
Yeah.

886
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,000
OK.

887
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,000
When you say found, you mean found here.

888
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:31,000
Found in the laboratory with these viruses was under two megahertz.

889
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,000
In other words, they were in the radio band.

890
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,000
They weren't 100 cycles and 400 cycles.

891
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,000
That's all poppycock.

892
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,000
There is no such thing.

893
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,000
OK.

894
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,000
Audio frequencies are not going to kill anything.

895
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,000
So.

896
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,000
There's a correct way to do this and an incorrect way to do it.

897
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:59,000
And the incorrect way is to think that a signal generator is going to do it by itself.

898
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,000
Or just the fundamental frequency is going to do it by itself.

899
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,000
It's not going to work.

900
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,000
So I'm going to tell you that right now.

901
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,000
OK.

902
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,000
Well, let's just look at this first.

903
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,000
Of what Reif and Hoylan found.

904
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,000
OK.

905
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,000
First of all, Hoylan read the correct frequency.

906
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,000
From his master oscillator.

907
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,000
After Reif dialed it in.

908
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:32,000
And the frequency that Reif found was for cancer was one thousand six oh seven.

909
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,000
Four fifty.

910
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,000
And that's one point six megahertz.

911
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,000
So you're not going to hear that.

912
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,000
You're never going to hear that.

913
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,000
Why not?

914
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,000
Because that's out of the audio range.

915
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,000
All right.

916
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:53,000
That is the highest frequency that Reif found.

917
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,000
So.

918
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,000
Hoylan was a pretty sharp guy.

919
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,000
OK.

920
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,000
He says, well.

921
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,000
If I make an oscillator.

922
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,000
And I have.

923
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:12,000
This fundamental frequency and I think he did them between.

924
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,000
Three point.

925
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:21,000
I think three point three megahertz at that time with the tubes and three point eight megahertz.

926
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,000
But.

927
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:27,000
One must remember that the higher.

928
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,000
These side bands are the more power there is.

929
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,000
So that's why you see.

930
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:37,000
You know them going up like this because it's generating side bands.

931
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,000
This machine.

932
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,000
So.

933
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:46,000
He picks a fundamental frequency and he says to himself and this is really good.

934
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,000
Really sharp.

935
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,000
He says I'll take Reif's.

936
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,000
BX frequency.

937
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,000
And I'll double that.

938
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,000
Times two.

939
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,000
So here it is.

940
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:04,000
One six oh seven four fifty times two.

941
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,000
Multiplied by two.

942
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,000
Let's not forget that everybody multiplied by two.

943
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,000
And that equals.

944
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,000
Three to one four nine hundred.

945
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,000
Or three point two one four megahertz.

946
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,000
But.

947
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,000
But it's never going to come out exact.

948
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,000
Yeah.

949
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,000
Only on a few.

950
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,000
So.

951
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:32,000
We have this frequency now because we doubled the cancer frequency.

952
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,000
And why did we double it.

953
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,000
We doubled it.

954
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,000
To get up to where the fundamental.

955
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,000
Okay.

956
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,000
All right.

957
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,000
The fundamentals sitting at thirty one.

958
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,000
Or three point one megahertz.

959
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,000
So now we take this three.

960
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,000
Two one four point nine hundred.

961
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,000
And we subtract it from the fundamental frequency.

962
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,000
Okay.

963
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,000
And that gives us a difference frequency.

964
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,000
See it says difference frequency.

965
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,000
Now.

966
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,000
Here's the nice part of this.

967
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:11,000
This difference frequency right here still this is still too high.

968
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:15,000
We'll bring this down a little bit so that the sweep generators can get it.

969
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,000
See.

970
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,000
Okay.

971
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,000
So.

972
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,000
If I divide this by two.

973
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,000
Then it's really simple.

974
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,000
I just count.

975
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,000
One two.

976
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,000
And it's going to end up right there.

977
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,000
If I divide it by three.

978
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,000
It's going to end up right there.

979
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,000
Okay.

980
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,000
If I divide it by four it's going to end up right there.

981
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,000
But see it's getting.

982
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,000
Smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller.

983
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,000
Does that mean it's getting weaker.

984
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,000
Yes it's getting weaker and weaker and weaker.

985
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,000
You want to be as close.

986
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,000
To this fundamental frequency and power as you can get.

987
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,000
Okay.

988
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,000
All right.

989
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,000
So here's.

990
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,000
Exactly what's happening with the spectrum analyzer will look like.

991
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,000
Or close to there's going to be some little differences but.

992
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:07,000
So you can see here that this is the max the fundamental frequency.

993
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,000
Three point one megahertz.

994
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,000
And.

995
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:17,000
This three point two one four is actually.

996
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:22,000
One six oh seven four fifty which is right on his cancer frequency.

997
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,000
You see how he got it.

998
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,000
You understand how he got it.

999
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,000
You just lost me.

1000
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,000
Well this is really.

1001
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,000
By the side bands out the third side band.

1002
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,000
Right.

1003
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,000
Right.

1004
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,000
This frequency out here.

1005
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,000
Is really this frequency here.

1006
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,000
Right.

1007
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,000
Right.

1008
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,000
That I can see.

1009
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,000
Yes.

1010
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,000
So what's happening.

1011
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,000
Right.

1012
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,000
That I can see.

1013
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,000
Yes.

1014
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,000
So what did oil and do.

1015
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,000
He hit it.

1016
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,000
Nobody was ever going to figure that out.

1017
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,000
Nobody could see.

1018
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,000
He hit it because it was a sideband.

1019
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:02,000
Well the reason that a oil and hit it from right and everybody.

1020
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,000
Is so nobody could duplicate the machine.

1021
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,000
But anything could be duplicated.

1022
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,000
Right.

1023
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,000
You know the English bought machines but he unwired them.

1024
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,000
So they didn't work when they got there.

1025
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:21,000
You know for somebody that's really interested.

1026
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,000
And what the full story of this is.

1027
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,000
They need to get the right history report.

1028
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,000
From Jeff Garth that's on the Internet.

1029
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,000
Which they can get.

1030
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,000
But that's not going to tell you how to make the machine I'm going to show you about.

1031
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:37,000
Right.

1032
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,000
But it is going to explain to you.

1033
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,000
This mathematics right here.

1034
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,000
This is how you get the sideband.

1035
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:49,000
Now if I was to go lower here I'd be going this direction.

1036
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,000
So it's important to go off to the right.

1037
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,000
Well it doesn't make any difference what side it's on.

1038
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,000
As long as it's closest.

1039
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,000
Okay.

1040
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,000
It's got the most power in the upper sidebands.

1041
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,000
Because see these bands.

1042
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,000
The fundamentals the tallest.

1043
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,000
All right.

1044
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,000
This is the highest frequency right found for cancer.

1045
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,000
That's the highest one.

1046
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,000
Frequency of.

1047
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,000
This is a frequency in megahertz.

1048
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,000
Okay.

1049
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:27,000
When he tuned his equipment he killed it under the microscope.

1050
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,000
That was the frequency.

1051
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,000
Right that's his target.

1052
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,000
So where did the 3100 come from?

1053
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,000
That's the fundamental oscillator.

1054
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,000
Okay.

1055
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,000
So that's the fundamental oscillator.

1056
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,000
That's the fundamental oscillator.

1057
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,000
That's going to allow all this to happen.

1058
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,000
That stays constant.

1059
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,000
Fundamental.

1060
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,000
Yes.

1061
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,000
That's the fundamental frequency.

1062
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,000
That's that little chip over there.

1063
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,000
That's that little oscillator.

1064
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,000
I didn't realize the fundamental was like a machine.

1065
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,000
I thought that was your fundamental.

1066
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,000
I can follow you to here.

1067
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,000
Okay so I'm going to go on now.

1068
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,000
They used to call it like a big frequency didn't they?

1069
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,000
What frequency?

1070
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,000
Amateur radio operators are very familiar with sidebands.

1071
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,000
That's how come I can do this.

1072
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,000
We used to use it in the desert in Libya.

1073
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,000
Yeah.

1074
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,000
Yeah.

1075
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:25,000
You could send out a fundamental frequency and you disturb that fundamental frequency you get sidebands.

1076
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:29,000
Those sidebands then contain the information that you're looking for.

1077
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,000
Are you recording this?

1078
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,000
Yes.

1079
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,000
Okay.

1080
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,000
Then what do you call a sideband?

1081
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,000
Well these are sidebands.

1082
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,000
They're like side effects.

1083
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,000
What is a sideband?

1084
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,000
These are...

1085
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,000
They're harmonics.

1086
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:47,000
They're harmonics of the fundamental.

1087
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:54,000
Let's go over this again so everybody understands.

1088
01:13:54,000 --> 01:14:03,000
What I'm looking for is this frequency but I need an effect.

1089
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:13,000
I need to generate this exact frequency but I need to sweep this frequency because cancers aren't the same today.

1090
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,000
So when you say sweep you mean...

1091
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,000
I mean sweep it.

1092
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,000
I'm going to sweep it, yes.

1093
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:26,000
So this was the highest frequency that Reif Erhoelin found for cancer.

1094
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:36,000
In other words when he redid Reif's work and said this is why he said Reif thought he had them.

1095
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:44,000
Because Reif had 17,000 something and he was reading a harmonic.

1096
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,000
See these are harmonics.

1097
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,000
Yeah, okay.

1098
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:50,000
All right.

1099
01:14:50,000 --> 01:15:00,000
So anyway, so if you take his highest frequency when you multiply it times two you want to get as close as you can get to this fundamental.

1100
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,000
And when you say fundamental you're talking about the fundamental...

1101
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,000
The very fundamental oscillator that's in the machine.

1102
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,000
They're like the original frequency.

1103
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,000
Yeah.

1104
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,000
Okay.

1105
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:16,000
In other words we are choosing a frequency where we can generate the most bands at the most power.

1106
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,000
All right.

1107
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,000
Okay now we're getting there.

1108
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,000
And then you pick up the harmonics.

1109
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,000
It's like tuning on a guitar.

1110
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,000
It's like tuning two pitchforks.

1111
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,000
Okay.

1112
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,000
Here, here.

1113
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:29,000
So anyway this was his frequency.

1114
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:37,000
So you're going to multiply this times two because it's going to put you at 3214.900 which is close to this.

1115
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,000
Right.

1116
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,000
All right.

1117
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:45,000
There are other frequencies Reif had where you may have to multiply this times five.

1118
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,000
Okay.

1119
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,000
Or times six to get it.

1120
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,000
Because you can't reach it otherwise.

1121
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:53,000
Yeah you can't reach the virus frequency otherwise.

1122
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,000
So you have to hit it with a harmonic.

1123
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,000
Right.

1124
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,000
Okay.

1125
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,000
So anyway after you do that you multiply it times two.

1126
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,000
This is the frequency that you're getting.

1127
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:10,000
Then this frequency, this frequency is subtracted from this frequency.

1128
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:18,000
3214.900 subtracted from 3100 gives you the difference frequency.

1129
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,000
Yeah.

1130
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,000
Of 114.900.

1131
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,000
Yeah.

1132
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:30,000
Now where do I want this frequency to end up?

1133
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:35,000
I want it to end up with the most power that I can get it towards the fundamental.

1134
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,000
Okay.

1135
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,000
Without actually being on the fundamental.

1136
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,000
Okay.

1137
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:44,000
So if I divide that right here.

1138
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,000
Okay.

1139
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:53,000
114.900 divided by three that gives me an audio frequency that I can use.

1140
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,000
38.300.

1141
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,000
Okay.

1142
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,000
Hertz.

1143
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,000
But you said audio frequency.

1144
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,000
This is the audio.

1145
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:07,000
The audio at this frequency is going to generate the frequency.

1146
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:11,000
This frequency is going to generate this sideband.

1147
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,000
But you said the audio doesn't kill anything.

1148
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,000
No.

1149
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,000
The audio by itself will not kill anything.

1150
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,000
Okay so it's just a mere wave measure.

1151
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,000
It's to gate.

1152
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,000
Okay.

1153
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,000
The fundamental oscillator in doing this.

1154
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:35,000
So now I've divided this by three and that's 38.300 Hertz.

1155
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,000
Right.

1156
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,000
So my whole generator can do easy and my modulator can do easy.

1157
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,000
Okay.

1158
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,000
And it's all derived from the difference frequency.

1159
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,000
Okay.

1160
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,000
And since I divided by three it's going to end up here.

1161
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,000
On the third.

1162
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,000
It's going to end up on the third sideband.

1163
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,000
Okay.

1164
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,000
And when it ends up there it's going to be in the high range.

1165
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,000
See it's three, two, one, four, nine hundred.

1166
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,000
Yeah.

1167
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,000
That's going to be equivalent to that.

1168
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,000
Yeah.

1169
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,000
Okay.

1170
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,000
Okay.

1171
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,000
I think I understand.

1172
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,000
I couldn't explain it but I think I understand.

1173
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:15,000
Hoylan had to figure out a way to hide it from the world since they had nothing to

1174
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,000
patent.

1175
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,000
Oh yeah.

1176
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:18,000
That's right.

1177
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,000
That's a statement.

1178
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:29,000
Since there was nothing to patent and you know what he never told Reif that.

1179
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,000
Yeah.

1180
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:35,000
So Reif never understood any of this.

1181
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,000
And how did they know it worked?

1182
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:41,000
Because Hoylan built this machine and went into his lab and tested it and they sold

1183
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,000
them.

1184
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,000
And they worked.

1185
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,000
Where's Hoylan now?

1186
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,000
He's dead too.

1187
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,000
He's dead.

1188
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:47,000
Yeah.

1189
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:52,000
And he wished that he never took the ten thousand dollars.

1190
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,000
For selling those?

1191
01:18:55,000 --> 01:19:02,000
For selling it, you know, from Fishbine, which was the head of the AMA at the time.

1192
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,000
Oh, okay.

1193
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,000
There's a lot too that's bad.

1194
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,000
It's a pretty dense story.

1195
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,000
This is dense material.

1196
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:16,000
So when you're saying frequency then, you're actually talking about sound frequency, like

1197
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,000
audio frequency.

1198
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,000
Well Michael, I'm going to show you when he's over here with the camera.

1199
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,000
No, like a radio frequency.

1200
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,000
Yeah.

1201
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,000
What is that?

1202
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:30,000
There was nothing that Reif found that was past two megahertz.

1203
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,000
I understand the math, but I don't understand the vocabulary.

1204
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,000
No, listen.

1205
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:41,000
There was nothing that Reif found that was past two million cycles.

1206
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,000
Right.

1207
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,000
That's two megahertz.

1208
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,000
This is using the virus microscope.

1209
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,000
Yeah, that's using the microscope.

1210
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,000
Okay.

1211
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,000
They were all in the radio.

1212
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,000
Where he could kill them all.

1213
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,000
Yes.

1214
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,000
The highest he had to go was two thousand.

1215
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,000
Okay.

1216
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,000
That was it.

1217
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,000
That's a good question to ask.

1218
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,000
Right.

1219
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,000
But.

1220
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,000
I got this one.

1221
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,000
You can ask that one, yeah.

1222
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,000
I got this one.

1223
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:16,000
There was nothing that he found, Michael, that was above the two megahertz band.

1224
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:21,000
That's kind of amazing because you think about how big is this virus.

1225
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,000
It's not very big.

1226
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,000
Yeah.

1227
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,000
Yeah.

1228
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:36,000
Well, how do we know that that frequency, a harmonic in there somewhere, wasn't actually killing it, which is higher yet.

1229
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,000
Yeah.

1230
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,000
See, the scope can't follow it very well.

1231
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,000
Right.

1232
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,000
Because it's sweeping.

1233
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,000
Right.

1234
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:50,000
But if you saw me when I stopped the sweep and I say, Michael, we're going to just dial in the cancer frequency.

1235
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,000
Right.

1236
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,000
Because here's what he found.

1237
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,000
Right.

1238
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:57,000
I understand the sweeping and how it'll find where it needs to go.

1239
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:02,000
Yeah, the spectrum analyzer is the only thing that's going to be able to show you that.

1240
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,000
Right.

1241
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,000
That's right.

1242
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,000
That's right.

1243
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:06,000
Now, let me ask.

1244
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,000
That's like having a super microscope.

1245
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,000
Yeah, exactly.

1246
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,000
It's like having a super microscope.

1247
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,000
You're not seeing the cracks in a concrete.

1248
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:21,000
See, Pat, it was all about hiding what the real frequencies were from the world.

1249
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,000
Right.

1250
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,000
Yeah.

1251
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,000
And that's a vital piece of information to put in there.

1252
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:26,000
Exactly.

1253
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,000
Yeah.

1254
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:32,000
If you know that, all you have to do is figure some way to get in there and sweep that in there.

1255
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:38,000
It doesn't make any difference what frequency I use, because I got my spectrum analyzer,

1256
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:48,000
as long as I hit it, because I'm telling the machine, yeah, it doesn't make any difference

1257
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,000
what I put in there.

1258
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,000
I can dial that machine anywhere I want.

1259
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,000
I can bring it closer or further.

1260
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,000
Right.

1261
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,000
Yeah, exactly.

1262
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:03,000
And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to bring it closer.

1263
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,000
Right.

1264
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,000
It's your microscope.

1265
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,000
Yeah.

1266
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,000
It's your microscope.

1267
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,000
Yeah, well, I look at it differently than what Jeff Garfin, the rest of my life.

1268
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:11,000
I'm sure.

1269
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:12,000
Look at this, totally different.

1270
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,000
Let me ask you just for my information.

1271
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,000
Like, when you're talking about radio frequencies.

1272
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,000
Yeah.

1273
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,000
AM band.

1274
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,000
AM band goes up to about, what, 1600?

1275
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,000
Yeah, that's it.

1276
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,000
Right, that's the end of it, right.

1277
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,000
And we're at, where are we?

1278
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,000
We're at, like, the Maximus 2000, which is...

1279
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,000
Now you know why he chose 3 megahertz fundamental,

1280
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,000
because he wanted to be two above it.

1281
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:40,000
Right.

1282
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,000
And why he wanted to double the cancer frequency

1283
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,000
and then subtract and get a demerol.

1284
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,000
Because he didn't want to be...

1285
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,000
No, because he wanted to build an audio oscillator

1286
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,000
and not tell anybody what the frequency was.

1287
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,000
There was no such thing as a frequency counter.

1288
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,000
There was an expression of pushing it.

1289
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,000
Yeah.

1290
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,000
Yeah.

1291
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,000
Except he couldn't do it, he had tubes.

1292
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,000
Right.

1293
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,000
Why is the limit at 1600 on a monitor?

1294
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:06,000
That was the highest.

1295
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,000
The cancer was the highest.

1296
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,000
Here's something unique when you look at history.

1297
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,000
All the radio engineers that worked for AM stations

1298
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,000
very rarely ever got sick.

1299
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,000
It doesn't make any difference if it's a gas tube

1300
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:23,000
or it's electrodes.

1301
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,000
Right.

1302
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,000
As long as you can get that in there.

1303
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,000
Let's roll over this again,

1304
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,000
since everybody had questions in the room.

1305
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,000
Okay, Stevie Wenger.

1306
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,000
All right.

1307
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:41,000
First of all, the highest frequency

1308
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,000
that Reif found for cancer

1309
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:51,000
after Hoylen did the calibrations,

1310
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,000
in other words, came in

1311
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:58,000
as his engineer and had Reif dial the frequency

1312
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:03,000
and then he read the frequency off his master oscillator.

1313
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:08,000
So he said to people within the company,

1314
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:12,000
he only thought that he had the frequencies.

1315
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,000
He was actually, Reif was actually in some cases

1316
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:21,000
reading a harmonic, which would have been one of the frequencies.

1317
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,000
Reading a harmonic, which would have been way out here somewhere.

1318
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,000
And he wrote that on his notes.

1319
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:33,000
Later, he gave a list and Reif corrected these frequencies.

1320
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:38,000
However, whatever happened to the frequencies between Reif,

1321
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:43,000
the trial, the people involved in John Crane, no one knows.

1322
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,000
Okay.

1323
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,000
All right.

1324
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,000
So let's go over this again.

1325
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:53,000
Hoylen, first of all, had to protect the company

1326
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:58,000
because he was a businessman and Reif was not.

1327
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,000
Yeah, okay.

1328
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:08,000
So to keep people from figuring out exactly how this machine worked,

1329
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,000
this is the method.

1330
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:15,000
If I take his frequency,

1331
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:20,000
that's the highest one, 1.6 megahertz, we'll call it,

1332
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,000
and we double that, we multiply that,

1333
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:28,000
we get this number closest to the fundamental oscillator,

1334
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:33,000
which we have chosen so that we can get the highest power bands.

1335
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,000
Okay.

1336
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:40,000
And we subtract that, you know, the 3100 from this,

1337
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,000
we get a difference frequency right here.

1338
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,000
Yeah.

1339
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:52,000
Now, that's still too high for us to work with with an audio oscillator.

1340
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,000
Okay.

1341
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:59,000
Because, see, it's over 100 kilohertz.

1342
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:04,000
So, wouldn't it be easier for me to divide this by three times

1343
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:10,000
and use this audio frequency of 38, 300?

1344
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,000
I can do that easy on my generator.

1345
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:16,000
So by dividing it, you're still staying true to the original.

1346
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:20,000
Absolutely, because the math is going to divide it.

1347
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:26,000
And since I divided it by three times, I'm going to be three over.

1348
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,000
One, two, three.

1349
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,000
Right, okay.

1350
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:39,000
So when I go to this with a spectrum analyzer, guess what frequency I see?

1351
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,000
I see this frequency.

1352
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:41,000
Yep.

1353
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:51,000
But, what I've said, you could be within one tenth of one meter on error.

1354
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,000
What do you mean one tenth of one?

1355
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,000
One tenth of one meter.

1356
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,000
The wave.

1357
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:57,000
In cycles.

1358
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,000
Oh, in cycles.

1359
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,000
Yeah.

1360
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:09,000
So, if I sweep, if I use a sweep generator, and I set it to do a sweep,

1361
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,000
I'm going to hit it no matter what I do.

1362
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,000
Yeah, okay.

1363
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:18,000
Because this thing's going to be changing, right?

1364
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:25,000
Now if I divide this by four, Pat, then I move over one, two, three, four.

1365
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,000
Right.

1366
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,000
Five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.

1367
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,000
And it gets progressively weaker.

1368
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,000
Yes, but I still end up.

1369
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:35,000
In that?

1370
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,000
Yes.

1371
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,000
Yeah, okay.

1372
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,000
With his, with what Hoylan found.

1373
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,000
Now, isn't that pretty sneaky, Hoylan?

1374
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,000
Yeah.

1375
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:50,000
Because if now I say, okay, I built one machine here, and this was my fundamental frequency,

1376
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:58,000
and now I build another machine that's at 3.3 megahertz, these are all going to change.

1377
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,000
Yeah.

1378
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:05,000
And nobody's ever going to know what this frequency is here until they do the math.

1379
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:11,000
And so now we have done the math, everybody should understand how you do this.

1380
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,000
But would it make a difference if you had the wrong frequency?

1381
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,000
I guess it would, but not if you sweep.

1382
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,000
Not if you sweep it.

1383
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,000
Right.

1384
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,000
See, my thing is.

1385
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:19,000
Is that what you're saying?

1386
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:25,000
My thing is, is I agree with everybody out there, I agree with Jeff Garf, but then I

1387
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:26,000
don't agree.

1388
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:34,000
Because it doesn't make any difference as long as I end up with this frequency.

1389
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,000
Yeah, in your sweep.

1390
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,000
And it's gated in the sweep.

1391
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,000
Right, okay.

1392
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:39,000
Because I'm setting.

1393
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:43,000
As long as you end up with that frequency or a harmonic of it.

1394
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:44,000
Yeah.

1395
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:51,000
Which could be out here, because it may move out eight places or five places or whatever.

1396
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:57,000
Because there are frequencies on the Hoylian machine where they're out here.

1397
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:00,000
But it still works.

1398
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,000
Yeah.

1399
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,000
All right.

1400
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:07,000
So basically when we look at the spectrum analyzer, this wave shape will change a little

1401
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,000
bit.

1402
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:12,000
But what we're going to see is this fundamental frequency, and I'm going to actually show

1403
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:16,000
you on the spectrum analyzer.

1404
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,000
Okay.

1405
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,000
You're going to actually see this.

1406
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,000
And you're going to see then what happens when you put the sweep in.

1407
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:31,000
And we're going to lock the spectrum analyzer by dot to show how many times it actually

1408
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:35,000
hits this cancer frequency during the sweep.

1409
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,000
Which nobody has ever seen.

1410
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,000
I haven't seen it.

1411
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:45,000
I'm sure that, you know, it's possible that somebody's done this.

1412
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:50,000
John, does that mean that if you're looking for a particular cancer in a particular person,

1413
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:56,000
you can use the analyzer and find where that cancer resides and then target that?

1414
01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:00,000
No, see, it's not going to make a difference.

1415
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,000
There are so many different cancers.

1416
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:06,000
There's probably 27 or maybe 29 different cancers.

1417
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:11,000
They're all going to be in a little bit different frequency like the papillona virus.

1418
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:15,000
That may not be right at life's frequency right here.

1419
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:23,000
Unless you have the microscope and see it, you're just stabbing yourself in the dark.

1420
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:31,000
By sweeping, it's rolling over all the frequencies.

1421
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,000
You see?

1422
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,000
So sooner or later, you're going to hit your target.

1423
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,000
Yeah.

1424
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,000
Even if you were off.

1425
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,000
Just a quick question.

1426
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:44,000
The y-axis, what are the units on the y-axis?

1427
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:52,000
Well, these are your dB levels of your sideband and your fundamental frequency of what it's actually transmitting.

1428
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,000
So they're in dBs then?

1429
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:54,000
Yeah.

1430
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:55,000
Okay.

1431
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:59,000
At least that's what the spectrum analyzer is going to show you.

1432
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,000
This could be power.

1433
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,000
This could be wattage.

1434
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,000
This could be 20 watts here.

1435
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:08,000
And this could be 10 watts here, 5 watts, or 4 watts, depending.

1436
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:16,000
And then of course, what you're seeing down here is the fundamental frequency of 3.1, which is the biggest one.

1437
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,000
And then as you move over, you're seeing 3.2.

1438
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:23,000
See? And you're coming over here to 3.214.

1439
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:28,000
So when this hits this, it equals this.

1440
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,000
Yeah.

1441
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,000
Yeah.

1442
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:39,000
John, can you explain to me if you don't know what that 1607 frequency is, with the spectrum analyzer, how do you know when you have...

1443
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:40,000
Well, then you shouldn't...

1444
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,000
You have found your range that you're actually killing the...

1445
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:45,000
If you don't know...

1446
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:50,000
Let me just say this to everybody.

1447
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:57,000
If you don't know what this is, and you don't know how to use the spectrum analyzer, then don't do this.

1448
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,000
Yeah.

1449
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,000
Because you cannot do it.

1450
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,000
You won't be able to do it.

1451
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,000
You see, I'm pretty precise in what I do.

1452
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:14,000
I just don't believe that you buy something off the Internet, and just because somebody says it's doing this, that it's actually doing this...

1453
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,000
No, no, no. Not John.

1454
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:17,000
Yeah.

1455
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:18,000
John wants to...

1456
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,000
I wasn't suggesting that.

1457
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,000
No, no. I know.

1458
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:26,000
John doesn't want to build anything that he can't prove to you that that's what it's doing.

1459
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,000
Right.

1460
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:28,000
Okay. Right.

1461
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,000
And so therefore I'm a sticker when it comes to this.

1462
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:39,000
In other words, it better end up where we say it is, or we're going to change a setting there and find out what's going on.

1463
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,000
Yeah.

1464
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:47,000
Because there are many settings that will give me this, this frequency once I have it.

1465
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:48,000
Yeah.

1466
01:32:48,000 --> 01:33:03,000
So the first thing that I'm going to show you is I'm going to ask the analyzer to give me this fundamental frequency.

1467
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:18,000
And as you can see at the very top, let's see if I can move this out.

1468
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:31,000
Actually, I like it better over here where you can really see it.

1469
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,000
Okay.

1470
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:36,000
As you can see that there's your fundamental frequency.

1471
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:44,000
And if I tell it to mark it, it's at 3.1 megahertz as I've drawn on the paper over there.

1472
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:53,000
And of course, if I move out in these bands, you're going to see this frequency change on the marker.

1473
01:33:54,000 --> 01:34:01,000
And the frequency that I'm looking for is that 3148308 megahertz is the cancer frequency.

1474
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:12,000
So I'm going to move this out until I get to 314.

1475
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:18,000
I'm looking to be right on it.

1476
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:19,000
As close as I can get to it.

1477
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,000
See it sound very close to it right there.

1478
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:26,000
I'm within one tenth of one meter right now.

1479
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,000
3148308 megahertz.

1480
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:30,000
All right.

1481
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,000
Now watch what happens when I tell it to sweep.

1482
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:37,000
Now, can you get what it's doing here?

1483
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:41,000
It's gaining right here.

1484
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:45,000
The frequency from the audio generator is gaining this.

1485
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:53,000
This ripple you see is this pump wave here.

1486
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:58,000
And that's what's giving you this ripple because this is a small DC current.

1487
01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:59,000
Okay.

1488
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:00,000
Okay.

1489
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,000
So the top scope is the pump wave.

1490
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:09,000
This top scope is showing you the actual frequency of it being gated.

1491
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:13,000
And when this collapses down in between it, you can see the gate.

1492
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,000
You see how it goes down in there?

1493
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,000
Uh-huh.

1494
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:25,000
But the thing about it is, since it's being pumped, we may not be...there you go.

1495
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:28,000
It's being gated right here.

1496
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,000
And then the pump wave is in here.

1497
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:39,000
And you can actually see that if I can bring it down.

1498
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:44,000
So these are the packets.

1499
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:48,000
Here to here, the gate.

1500
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,000
Here to here is another packet.

1501
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:55,000
And that's giving me these sidebands.

1502
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:59,000
So as you can see right here, I'm looking for the BX cancer frequency.

1503
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:02,000
So I'm using the spectrum analyzer.

1504
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:06,000
And you can see here that I've got the most power here closest to the fundamental.

1505
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,000
So the little dot writing on top of the spike...

1506
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,000
Is the frequency.

1507
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,000
Is the frequency that you've marked that in the machine.

1508
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,000
Yeah.

1509
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:17,000
Well, I've asked the machine to tell me what it is because watch here as I go.

1510
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,000
Watch this frequency.

1511
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:21,000
See, that's way too much.

1512
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:22,000
Right, right, right, right.

1513
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:26,000
So what I want to do is I want to get within 1-tenth of one meter.

1514
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:27,000
Okay.

1515
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,000
So you're too...yeah, I see.

1516
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,000
Okay, so I'm 907 now.

1517
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,000
Right.

1518
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:32,000
So see where my dot is there?

1519
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:33,000
Yeah, it's not quite there.

1520
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:34,000
Okay, now watch.

1521
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,000
I can take my signal generator over here.

1522
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,000
Now you watch.

1523
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:45,000
And what I want to do is go back here to square.

1524
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:48,000
And I go back to frequency.

1525
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:51,000
And as I change this frequency to only...

1526
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:52,000
I can't see it here.

1527
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,000
You watch the dot.

1528
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,000
See?

1529
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,000
Yeah.

1530
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,000
Now I'm right on it, aren't I?

1531
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,000
Yep.

1532
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:00,000
See?

1533
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,000
So now I can leave the generator.

1534
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:07,000
I can tell you the exact frequency with this fundamental.

1535
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:12,000
And the pump wave is 49.80 kilohertz.

1536
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,000
Okay.

1537
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,000
So now I can go here, sweep.

1538
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,000
And I can go to the linear sweep.

1539
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:22,000
And I can say, sweep those frequencies.

1540
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:25,000
And look at that.

1541
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:32,000
And see if you really think about it.

1542
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,000
It's over at the third band.

1543
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:35,000
See?

1544
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:36,000
Yep.

1545
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:45,000
So this is why I disagree.

1546
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:46,000
And see what it's doing here?

1547
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:49,000
You can see the pump wave as it gates.

1548
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,000
Watch this very closely.

1549
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,000
When it goes down to low frequency.

1550
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,000
And I'll point out the gate.

1551
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:58,000
There's the gate.

1552
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,000
And the pump wave.

1553
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,000
Mm-hmm.

1554
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,000
Okay.

1555
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:13,000
Okay, so now you can see that I can just about dial anything that I want to dial.

1556
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:15,000
Now what I want to show you is I'm going to disconnect this.

1557
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:22,000
And I'm going to show you the generator that I recommend.

1558
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,000
And like I said, this was only $100.

1559
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,000
And this is a DDS generator.

1560
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:32,000
Well, let's turn this off so you can get a good picture of the fundamental frequency.

1561
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,000
See it?

1562
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:36,000
Mm-hmm.

1563
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,000
That's at 31.

1564
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:38,000
Right.

1565
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,000
3.1.

1566
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:42,000
So now watch when I turn this generator on.

1567
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,000
Watch this.

1568
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,000
Watch what's going to happen.

1569
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:49,000
Okay.

1570
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,000
Why don't you explain what did happen?

1571
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:54,000
Well, it's the same as that laboratory generator.

1572
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,000
And it's like $100.

1573
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,000
And it's generating all of Rafe's frequencies.

1574
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,000
Because you pre-programmed this.

1575
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:08,000
Yes, I pre-programmed this to do the sweep from 10 kilohertz to 70 kilohertz.

1576
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:09,000
Okay, that's this little guy.

1577
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:10,000
Yeah.

1578
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,000
Which is the Bellman.

1579
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,000
Can you hold it up just a little?

1580
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:21,000
Yeah.

1581
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:22,000
That's a $100 unit.

1582
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,000
Yeah, that's a $100 unit.

1583
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:28,000
And the thing about this is it's already pre-programmed.

1584
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:29,000
This is fixed.

1585
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,000
You don't have to worry about it.

1586
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:35,000
And you can change the voltage here if you want.

1587
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:39,000
Like we're at 1.3 volts because of the audio circuit in here.

1588
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:40,000
Right.

1589
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,000
And it's in a square wave operation.

1590
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:43,000
So we're generating the most bands, see?

1591
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:44,000
Right.

1592
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,000
All at once.

1593
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:50,000
Yeah.

1594
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:51,000
Okay.

1595
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:52,000
So we...

1596
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:53,000
Done?

1597
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,000
Yeah, and we'll go back.