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After John discovered that I was capable to
make the same machine, I mean John worked ...

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And we would talk about what could be done
with this machine at night, but we would t...

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Like at the time we were working on the
gravity field generators with Tom Bearden ...

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And they were all friends. You know, all
these people were friends.

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And we were talking about...he'd always say,
well come to my lab.

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You know, and then there'd be always
something new in his lab.

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I mean it was totally new, you know, and we'd
be talking about it at this coffee shop.

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And there were three of us involved. There
was Steve Worth, John Sajak, and myself.

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We were all involved. However, Steve never
made this machine.

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Steve knew how to operate it, but he never
actually made that machine.

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I made the machine.

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Well, what actually happened was, and Tony
asked this question, is I was giving a...

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About, that doesn't do anything, that's just
all crap they were saying, right?

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And so I went over to the sink, and I got my
hands wet.

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And I turned the machine on, and I was
sprinkling water on the plate.

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And this is what's known as the plate.

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But without the pitcher, without the witness.

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And I was just sprinkling the water on the
plate.

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Well, I was sprinkling the water that came
out of the sink from that building.

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See, everything has a signature no matter
where it comes from.

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And so I was sprinkling it like this, and
everybody was laughing, laughing away.

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And pretty soon, there was one hell of a
storm, Pat.

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I mean, it just flooded the place.

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The drops were huge.

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You know, there was a guy bringing an
amplifier that I was supposed to repair fo...

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He goes, why is it just raining here and
nowhere else?

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And of course, I didn't give him an answer,
and the laughter stopped.

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And everybody was seriously in trouble at
that point in time because this rain didn'...

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And then it quit.

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And of course...

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Wasn't it coming down the air conditioning
duct?

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It was coming down the air conditioning duct.

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It was coming...the roof was a flat roof, if
that tells you something.

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It was flooded.

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It was coming over the overspills.

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In other words, it couldn't get down the
drains fast enough.

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It was coming out over the top.

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And I'm probably lucky that it didn't
collapse the Sylmar facility.

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You know, but I can tell you one thing.

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The people that were involving me never
laughed again about it, and they didn't wa...

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And so I'll finish the story with what I did
with the machine.

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I sold it to Pete Kelly.

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And Pete Kelly had heard, because Rhonda had
told Tom Bearden, that yep, that's exactly...

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She said, and he had a customer coming.

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And the customer said, why is it just raining
here?

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What's going on here?

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It just came out of nowhere right here.

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And of course, we, you know, I didn't answer
that question, and she didn't answer the...

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They just sort of turned around and went the
other way, right?

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They're just like, well, this must be a
fluke.

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And what I did was later on, I was destitute
and didn't have any money.

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And Pete Kelly says, do you want to sell the
machine?

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And I said, yeah, I'll take $500 for the
machine.

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So I packed up the machine and sold it to
him.

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And Tom Bearden called me up about three
weeks later after Pete Kelly had gotten th...

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And he said, you know, because Pete did the
same thing that you did, and a lightning...

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And it scared the hell out of him.

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And I said, oh, come on, Tom, that, you know,
and Tom says, no, no, John.

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He was so afraid of the machine after that
that he dug.

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He won't tell anybody where he disassembled
it and buried the machine.

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So and that was based on, you know, the
UCCACO principle.

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Later on, I explored more.

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See, the thing is, when you don't put that
battery in there, you have no shield.

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So it can come back on you.

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OK, that's what you meant when you mentioned
that.

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That's why I mentioned to everybody that you
must, you know, you must put this battery ...

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It's a shield from the machine coming back on
you.

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You know, so I want to keep stressing the
point that you don't get your fingerprints...

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Make sure everything's washed down with
alcohol.

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And I don't know, Tony, can we get a close up
of the way the plate looks with I have a...

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But so why have you built this machine now?

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I'm well, to figure out exactly how this one
worked.

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OK.

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Because now later on in time, our
sophistication in technology allows us to ...

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I wanted to put one together.

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I put two together and they both run
identical.

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And then, of course, the antenna screws in
here.

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Yeah.

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And this is a modern case compared to what
John had.

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Right.

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Now, he never mentioned and this may be
something that we all should think about o...

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He never mentioned.

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Why is it in a wood case?

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Doesn't transmit.

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I don't know.

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Was it he couldn't get a metal case to put it
in?

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Or does the metal have something to do with
the machine?

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See, you have to ask all these questions.

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Why did he build a metal case and a
plexiglass front?

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He built a wooden case.

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Yeah, he built a wooden case.

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Because it actually looks more like an old
radio, doesn't it?

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I think this is because he, because it has
the look of an old radio.

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And also you notice this.

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You're going to lock it.

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He locked them so the farmers couldn't get in
them.

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Okay.

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In other words, they'd have to tear his whole
case apart and then he'd know that they go...

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But he could have riveted this one.

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He could have done a lot of things, but
there's reasons and there's questions that...

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I mean, this is stuff he would just go to the
lumber yard and you'd get these, looks lik...

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And then it's like he's built a box out of
this.

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And because it's tubes, he's drilled all
these holes.

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Because of the heat.

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And you can see he didn't have a pattern.

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So he was experimenting with all this.

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He wasn't a master cabinet maker.

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No, he wasn't a master cabinet maker and I'm
sure he could have had somebody done a muc...

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But why bother? I mean, it was an experiment
with John.

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And he was interested to see if the machine
was actually going to treat all these fields.

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And they did. They worked.

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Actually, John, I was thinking, why did he
use a wooden box?

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Do you think? Why not use a metal one? They
had metal ones back then.

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Well, yeah, but they were back then when you
talk about 60s or 70s.

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I would have thought the metal box, a custom
metal box would be pretty expensive.

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And to put together a wooden box like that,
the local cabinet maker could have probabl...

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I don't know. What do you think, John?

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It's always puzzled me why they all were in
wooden boxes.

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All right.

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Now, here's a thing that is kind of
interesting, too.

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Even the Yucaca device was in a wooden box.

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And that wasn't him at all.

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Right. Right. I mean, they had the money.

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These guys were professors when they were
doing the experiments.

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And they had the school behind them and
everything.

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And they had the agricultural department that
they were dealing with.

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So I have no idea.

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You know, except that what I said, if you
look at the box, it's wood.

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There's no distinct pattern to any of
drilling any of these holes.

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If you look at it, it's got a key lock,
right?

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It's like they were drilled downhill.

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And the chassis that's in there is something
you would get from, say, bud. Bud box.

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And it doesn't even seem to be important in a
way.

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And what's even funnier is these parts.

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The resistors, they're all like 10 and 20
percent.

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They're not even on value.

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So, you know, this one could be 470k and this
one could be 475.1k.

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You know, so it seems to be none of this is
important.

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You don't need any 1 percent resistors or
anything.

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Definitely the capacitors are like 20 percent
or 30 percent, I think, when I took this o...

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And it's just, it doesn't make any difference
where the wires are going or anything.

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There's nothing in a nice, neat wire loom or
anything like that.

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It's just like this is running from this
point, point A to point B.

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And basically underneath, and I noticed that
about the Yucaco machine, too.

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Basically underneath, he's got this chassis,
right?

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And he's got a tube here and he's got a tube
here and a tube here and a tube here and a...

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And the sockets underneath, right, with their
pins, right?

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It's like he's got a resistor that's 20
percent soldered over here, right, like this.

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And then he's got some kind of tabs here,
right?

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And he's got this one stretched, you know, to
this point and then this point stretched o...

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So it's like point-to-point wiring, right?

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And there's no procedure to any of it.
There's no neatness to it or anything.

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It's just put together and this is the way it
works and that's it.

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I mean, so I have no idea why, you know, he
wouldn't invest in a metal cabinet except...

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He probably did this out of his own money.

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You know, and he wanted, he developed
something that worked and then he said, we...

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And basically when you look at his machines,
they all work the same.

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It's got the same meters. It's got the same
switches, the same plugs. These are guitar...

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The handles like a briefcase. The handle's a
guitar handle. A briefcase handle or...

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Yeah, it's just, you know, in the key lock is
something you go down to the local hardwar...

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So he basically scavenged thoughts.

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Well, there's a lot of old TV parts in there,
you know, that I noticed right away like t...

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You know, that's a metal tube. So there are
these, you know, tubes that are metal like...

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You know, they're a metal tube. They're not a
glass tube.

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They're metal shielded tube, but they got
real high gain.

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And I think that's why he used them where the
Yucaco didn't use that. The Yucaco used a...

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Is that a metal tube as well?

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Yeah, it was a metal tube.

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So you've seen the Yucaco machine?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I have pictures.

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Yeah.

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I have pictures. I have the full dynes to a
Yucaco machine because I actually had a...

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What happened to it?

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I gave it back.

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Oh, okay.

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And then I was given all the prints. And that
machine now, on the other hand, was laid o...

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Yeah.

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Well, that makes a good point. Also, this is
serial number 114 that I was given.

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This one?

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Yeah. So there was 113 that went before it.

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Yeah.

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Which is a lot. So production costs would
have been a lot cheaper with a cabinet mak...

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Right. And this is like it's routed out,
Tony, out of the piece of wood with a hand...

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Right.

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And again, it raises an interesting question
because when we were with Ronnie, he maybe...

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There was a few more scattered around, but
you're still about 100 short.

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Yeah, where are they?

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Yeah.

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And John had one in California with him.

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Yeah, but his was kind of a custom built one.

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Well, it was a lot better looking than this.

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You said he had one that was smaller than
this.

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Yeah, it was a little bit smaller than this.
And that's right. Where are the rest of th...

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Yeah.

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I mean, because I doubt that it started at
serial number 100.

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No.

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Yeah.

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No, John would have started at 00 and then
01, 02, 03.

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Yeah.

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That's the way John would have done it
because I.

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Because the more he got out there, the more
money he'd get.

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Right. These were leased.

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Yeah.

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These were never for sale.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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And none of these are for sale.

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So, okay, so why did you build these?

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To find out with a spectrum analyzer exactly
what was going on with it.

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It's a research project.

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Yeah. And I actually have the picture that I
took out the spectrum analyzer.

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And, you know, I was trying to be with the
people, trying to tell them, you know, tha...

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But when you look at the actual frequencies,
you know, make it a little more detailed.

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You know, they're, they've got a fundamental
here and a fundamental here and a fundamen...

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And these are all, you know, what John was
tuning to get to the wave that sort of loo...

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Right.

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Which was a burning feather, basically.

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You know, and all the frequencies are in this
burning feather.

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I mean, so, you know, that's something.

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I mean, this is so typical because not only
is this thing working on sidebands, the Ri...

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And in fact, a bunch of even the Abrams
machine, the medical machines, all work wi...

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Yeah.

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And they all got some fundamental carrier
frequency, you know, that they got.

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And I mean, that's for another time.

228
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But basically, they're all doing the same
thing that works in the biological realm.

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Right.

230
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You know, so even like I said, the Abrams
machine was nothing more than a pendulum t...

231
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You know, and the thing about that one is
that it generates these pulses and then...

232
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Right.

233
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That isn't even really hooked to anything.

234
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And it's generating these spikes and waves.

235
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It sounds like Daniel or something.

236
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Well, it sounds like, you know.

237
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And most people, like I said, the ones that
were around when I was goofing around with...

238
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And then they didn't laugh anymore.

239
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Right.

240
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P. Kelly didn't laugh after that.

241
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He just buried it.

242
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Actually, I heard that he smashed it up in a
million pieces, dug a six foot hole and th...

243
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That's what Tom said to me.

244
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I said, you got to be kidding me.

245
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He destroyed my machine.

246
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And he goes, he but you know something about
that?

247
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He got really sick after that.

248
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:11,000
And the other thing that I find interesting
and I really don't want to make a conspira...

249
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Right.

250
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,000
You know, Tony says there's these machines
that they don't have.

251
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,000
Well, all we know is this is number 114.

252
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:25,000
Well, we also know that we saw at Lonnie's
house four or five.

253
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Right.

254
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,000
We said he had four or five.

255
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,000
Yeah.

256
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,000
But where are the others?

257
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:36,000
Well, he said some of the farmers kept them
and hadn't turned them back in.

258
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Remember, they were never sold, Pat. They
were leased.

259
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Right.

260
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Property of John H. Sadeka.

261
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000
Yeah.

262
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Yeah.

263
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So.

264
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Strange.

265
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,000
I mean, that's about what I can tell you
about the case and the box.

266
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And it just seems strange to me that this is
built like an old time radio.

267
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,000
Yeah.

268
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,000
You know, it seemed wired like an old time
radio.

269
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When you get in there.

270
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And so that's something to be considered.

271
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Yeah.

272
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,000
Yeah.

273
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,000
I don't want to see when the antenna is
insulated.

274
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,000
Okay.

275
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From the wood box.

276
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,000
Well, that would make sense.

277
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000
Well, isn't the wooden.

278
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,000
I don't know. You could have mounted this
antenna.

279
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000
I thought wood was sort of an insulator
anyway.

280
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,000
Well, I.

281
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,000
No?

282
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It is.

283
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,000
But I mean, the way he's got this in here,
it's.

284
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It's.

285
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000
Yeah.

286
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:47,000
You know, maybe that the antenna mount was
too thin to go through this, you know,

287
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three quarters of an inch.

288
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,000
And so he probably drilled a bigger hole and
put this plate in here and then

289
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mounted in a plastic because this looks like
it's replaceable.

290
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,000
In other words, you just take it out and
replace it with somebody snaps it up.

291
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000
Yeah, somebody will step it up.

292
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,000
Yeah.

293
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:08,000
And what's funny, I mean, if you look at
this, they don't even sell.

294
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:18,000
This kind of antenna keeps going and going
anymore.

295
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,000
You know, you have to use a whip now if
you're going to do it.

296
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000
We have plenty of cars with antennas like
that.

297
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,000
Well, early on.

298
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000
Yeah.

299
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,000
Right.

300
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000
Maybe that is a car's antenna.

301
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:34,000
No, this is like a shortwave radio.

302
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,000
You know, it's got like nine sections to it
here.

303
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,000
Yeah, we had one on the short.

304
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000
Oh, Lord?

305
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,000
Short.

306
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

307
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,000
Yeah, so.

308
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:49,000
John, would you mind recapping a little bit
what we were just discussing?

309
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:56,000
Yeah, Pat, I'll get as close as I can to what
the film was about.

310
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000
OK.

311
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:09,000
And I'll start out with the basic theory,
which is the symbol for an IC.

312
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000
An IC is what?

313
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,000
IC.

314
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,000
OK.

315
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000
Which is an integrated circuit.

316
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,000
Now, Sijeka, I'm going to point this out.

317
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:27,000
Sijeka did not believe that it could be done
solid state-wise.

318
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:37,000
For the simple fact is, if you look at the
solid state transistor and you look at the

319
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tube, one uses space charges and one doesn't.

320
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:47,000
In other words, the charges that come from
the cathode, they always assume that those

321
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are space charges.

322
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:56,000
And John used to talk a lot about dark rays
and things like that that came off the back

323
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000
of TV picture tubes and different things.

324
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:16,000
But anyway, to give the example, the IC, to
make this machine function, once again, we

325
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000
have a witness on a plate.

326
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:28,000
Let's just say that that's a tree that's
infested in South Africa, someplace like...

327
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:35,000
And that tree has a beetle infestation.

328
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:42,000
So if I do Africa, we'll just assume that I
did Africa here.

329
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,000
Right?

330
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:50,000
And that tree is located right here.

331
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,000
And I get a picture of that tree, a Polaroid
picture of that tree, and I get a ground

332
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000
sample.

333
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,000
And I put the dirt sample on the picture.

334
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:09,000
And I get the beetle.

335
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,000
And this is a dead beetle, but it's that
species.

336
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:21,000
And I put that on there, and then I put the
insecticide on here in a vial.

337
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:28,000
Meanwhile, warning again, you don't touch
this with your hand.

338
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Everything has got alcohol.

339
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,000
You have to alcohol everything, make sure you
have no fingerprints on it.

340
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:46,000
Okay, so what's going to happen, and this
gain is 100,000.

341
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,000
This self-oscillates between this point and
this point.

342
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:59,000
So the plate is a copper plate.

343
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:04,000
And the picture is located on the plate.

344
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,000
And I'll get into a little bit here in a
minute.

345
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,000
But this is some gain that's selected.

346
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,000
Okay.

347
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:27,000
All right, and so what starts happening is it
starts to oscillate in between these points,

348
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000
and it grows.

349
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000
Once again.

350
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:39,000
It keeps growing like this.

351
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000
And see.

352
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000
And this keeps going out and out and out and
out and out.

353
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000
And it takes a little bit of time for this to
happen.

354
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:52,000
But now you can see that it's reached this
point here with its frequencies in here.

355
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000
Right.

356
00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:01,000
You know, that's harmonics of the master
oscillating frequency,

357
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:06,000
which is actually a fundamental frequency
here.

358
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:12,000
And we'll show you a picture of the spectrum
analyzer so that everybody can see that.

359
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,000
But anyway, that's basically how it operates,
is it self-oscillates,

360
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000
and it keeps building itself like this.

361
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:28,000
And since John Sijaka used it for
agriculture,

362
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:34,000
he called it a bi-harmonics machine because
of the harmonics

363
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,000
that were generated by the tube stages in the
machine.

364
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
All right.

365
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,000
So let's recap just a little bit further.

366
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,000
You need some selected gain at multiple
stages.

367
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,000
He believed that you couldn't do it with
integrated circuits or solid state

368
00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:04,000
because it just didn't give you the same wave
shapes.

369
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,000
So hold on a minute because I've got a few
questions.

370
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,000
So since it's spreading out like that,

371
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:20,000
wouldn't it affect everything that falls
within those almost parallel lines?

372
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:27,000
No, no, no. It's transmitting the same signal
in all these lines.

373
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000
But what it's doing is seeking out this.

374
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000
Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

375
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000
It's seeking out this witness.

376
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000
Okay.

377
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,000
So when the first one has passed the target,

378
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000
another one is coming right behind you.

379
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Yes.

380
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Yeah, okay.

381
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000
Yeah, so it's multiple. It's like an ocean.

382
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:53,000
It's like throwing a rock in a lake, and it
puts out the rain.

383
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000
Right, right.

384
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,000
It puts out these waves until it hits
something.

385
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,000
Right.

386
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,000
Now here's the thing. It's hit this target.

387
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000
So there's a bounce back.

388
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,000
Okay.

389
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
There's a bounce back.

390
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,000
So now if there's a rock here and this ring
hits this, right,

391
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000
then you see another wave start to come back.

392
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Yeah, I've seen that on the harbor also.

393
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Right, exactly.

394
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,000
So.

395
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,000
Reflective waves.

396
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,000
Yeah, reflective waves.

397
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,000
So it's doing this.

398
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,000
You must take precaution in what John Sadega
was saying,

399
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000
and it must have some form of shield.

400
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Okay, now I see what you're saying. Yeah.

401
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,000
Right. And so this ground would be isolated.

402
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Yeah.

403
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:51,000
And then the battery would be put in this
position.

404
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000
You see what I'm saying?

405
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000
Yes.

406
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
Because we know the negative of the battery.

407
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000
It's almost like a reverse polarity.

408
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000
Yeah.

409
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,000
That keeps the bounce back from coming back
to the witness.

410
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Because then it's interference after that, if
the bounce back comes back.

411
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000
Yeah, okay.

412
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000
All right, so.

413
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000
Do you understand that part of it, Pat?

414
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,000
Yeah.

415
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,000
Okay.

416
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Once again, I'm going to stress this.

417
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,000
When handling this machine, use gloves.

418
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Yeah.

419
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000
And make sure that you clean the gloves with
alcohol,

420
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000
and make sure that the witness is wiped down
with alcohol.

421
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,000
Right.

422
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:40,000
Make sure none of your fingerprints are on
this machine, on the witness.

423
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Okay, so let's just for a second here go back
to John's machine,

424
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,000
which is this machine right here.

425
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:57,000
And if you look closely, you can see that
this tube here,

426
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000
there's numbers on these tubes.

427
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,000
You can see that?

428
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000
Yeah.

429
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:08,000
And these numbers are the tubes John selected
to go in each stage,

430
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000
and he scoped these.

431
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Okay.

432
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:19,000
So that he could get the side bands that he
wanted, the bands in the frequencies.

433
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,000
So we've got one stage, two stage, three
stage, four stage,

434
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,000
and the rectifier tube, which now would be
solid state.

435
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000
This is not important.

436
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:37,000
What's important is the gain of these stages
and how they're working.

437
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,000
And then you can see that this wire here
comes out to this antenna.

438
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,000
Yeah.

439
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,000
Right.

440
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,000
And this is like 53 inches long.

441
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
So this antenna is 53 inches.

442
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:57,000
So once again, John's stages are these tubes.

443
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Now remember that in his stages, this ground
is isolated,

444
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:14,000
because between these grounds are all going
to tie together in the stages.

445
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Yeah, yeah.

446
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:23,000
And between this part of the ground is the
battery.

447
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,000
And that becomes earth ground.

448
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,000
So what is the battery there for?

449
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,000
A shield.

450
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,000
Okay.

451
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,000
So that you don't get any feedback from the
target is.

452
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Yeah.

453
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,000
All right.

454
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:56,000
So he has very conveniently selected R1 and
R2 to be some specific gain.

455
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000
So this was, I think, in the machine.

456
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,000
This was 270 K.

457
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,000
And this was 30 ohms.

458
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,000
So that divided by that will give you the
gain of that stage.

459
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,000
All right.

460
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:21,000
And then he's coupled these stages like this.

461
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,000
Now it's an identical stage.

462
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Pat.

463
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000
These are identical stages.

464
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:42,000
The screen, he has just tied up to the B plus
line, which is positive voltage.

465
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,000
And then this screen here, he's tied back
down to the cathode,

466
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:53,000
which turns this into something that's
equivalent to a 6L6 tube.

467
00:33:53,000 --> 00:34:03,000
You can't use a 6L6 tube because it does not
have the gain of the tube that John Sijank...

468
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:10,000
which was the 6CL6, I think, here.

469
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Let me make sure that's what it was.

470
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Whatever the tube is close enough, 6CL6.

471
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,000
6AC7.

472
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,000
There are a few tubes, 6SJ7, that you could
use in here.

473
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000
So I just put two.

474
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,000
And you tie them this way.

475
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:42,000
And then, of course, he's done the same thing
again in the next stage.

476
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000
Tied to that point.

477
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,000
This one tied to here.

478
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,000
This one tied back up to the line.

479
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,000
And then this grid is tied here.

480
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:05,000
And he's also put a resistor in the grid line
of one meg.

481
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:12,000
So that you cannot...

482
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,000
So it forces a negative voltage on the tube.

483
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,000
So then, I guess this is your witness.

484
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Into the first grid.

485
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,000
And then he's tied to one meg resistor here.

486
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,000
Ground.

487
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,000
And so then, I'm just going to do two stages.

488
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Okay, but he did four, right?

489
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:48,000
He did four stages. And let's say this stage
has 50,000 gain.

490
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,000
This 50,000 gain, then it's multiplied by
this 50,000 gain times the next 50,000 gain.

491
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,000
And that's the...

492
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,000
What's the billions before you know it?

493
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Well, you're up there in an infinite number.

494
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,000
To where it's oscillating all the time.

495
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:22,000
So then what he's done is out of this plate
here, he's capacitively coupled that to a...

496
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,000
And that antenna is pulled up.

497
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:33,000
See, for 53 inches.

498
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:43,000
And basically, you can set whatever you want
here.

499
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:48,000
As far as the length goes. So you could
actually tune it with the antenna if you...

500
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,000
Okay.

501
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,000
And it's swiveable. See, it's got a swivel.

502
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:00,000
So you can move the antenna back or you can
move it forward. You can just do what you...

503
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,000
And these, during the 60s and 70s, were
available everywhere.

504
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,000
I mean, you could go to what was Radio Shack
then.

505
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:17,000
You could just go to any electronics store
and get this antenna, which was nine...

506
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:23,000
So basically then, what John has done with
the tubes...

507
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:30,000
Remember, these are heated cathode tubes,
which means they have a filament voltage.

508
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:36,000
So that's why you see the two switches on the
machine, the red and the green.

509
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:48,000
And something convenient that he did also was
he broke this line where the battery is.

510
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:58,000
So we just crossed this out for a minute. We
pulled this wire over here and we put a...

511
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:03,000
And he called that switch spray.

512
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:11,000
So when he turns this on, in the power
supply, there's a current meter.

513
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,000
And when you turn the spray switch on, it
completes the circuit.

514
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:23,000
And the current goes up to, say, 25 to 100
milliamps.

515
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:30,000
And that indicates that the spray is on with
the green light and that it's oscillating.

516
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,000
So that's one thing to remember.

517
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:44,000
And then he's got a meter in the front. And
when you turn this, and this one says spray.

518
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:50,000
And the other one says power, which is just
lighting the filaments.

519
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:57,000
And what he would do is he would let that run
for about 10 or 15, maybe 20 minutes, and...

520
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Because he wanted the tubes stable, all the
same heat range.

521
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:12,000
And so that's basically how this machine
operates. And then this will start its...

522
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Right? And when it finds its target out here,
there'll be a return wave in this, in thes...

523
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:31,000
And you don't want this return wave going
back to the witness.

524
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000
Why not?

525
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:40,000
Because then it's contaminated. It's
contaminated with frequencies you don't want.

526
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:49,000
So he very conveniently said, I need
something that matches elements.

527
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:58,000
And that was a dry cell battery. Sink,
carbon, not alkaline, and not lead acid.

528
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:06,000
So this must be a dry cell. And I'm going to
put that down.

529
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:19,000
Must be. That means the cheapest battery
that's got zinc and carbon in it. And noth...

530
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:27,000
And this battery does not power the units.
And I don't want anybody getting the idea...

531
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:37,000
It's just used basically as a shield. And it
doesn't operate correctly without the shield.

532
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,000
It may work and it may not work.

533
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:50,000
You know, because I've run many experiments
on this and that battery's got to be in th...

534
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:57,000
And so remember this return wave, right, is
blocked through the ground.

535
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Because the witness and everything is on the
ground.

536
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:11,000
So that blocks the return wave through the
grounding rod of this machine, which is here.

537
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,000
Which is in the earth.

538
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,000
Five foot rod.

539
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:26,000
And so I think now that I've covered pretty
much everything, Pat, unless you have some...

540
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,000
You said five foot rod in the ground?

541
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Well, he always used a five foot copper rod.

542
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Oh, and he just sunk it straight into the
ground?

543
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Yeah, an electrician's rod. He would go and,
you know, go to the hardware store and get...

544
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,000
California was pretty easy to pound into the
ground.

545
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:52,000
Up here in Idaho, it's not really easy to
pound into the ground because you're alway...

546
00:41:52,000 --> 00:42:04,000
But you can lay out a wire, I'm pretty sure
you could lay out a, you know, dig a trenc...

547
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,000
My early machines never used the ground.

548
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:16,000
And that's how I found out that you pretty
much want to be protected with John's shie...

549
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Because, you know, the storm that I created,
I really didn't want to be in.

550
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:28,000
And the one that Pete Kelly created, I'm sure
he didn't want to be in either.

551
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000
So those occurred because?

552
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000
There was no shield.

553
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,000
Right.

554
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,000
It just came right back on its own.

555
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000
And then the minute I put the battery in it,
things changed.

556
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Yeah.

557
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:46,000
Because I remember John's comment one day, he
was walking in the garage and it was gone.

558
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000
Yes.

559
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:54,000
He was taking his hand and he was going, I'm
going to tell you.

560
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000
He says, where's your battery?

561
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000
I said, what?

562
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000
Where's the battery?

563
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,000
That's what I need a battery for.

564
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,000
See, you need to protect this machine.

565
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,000
It doesn't operate correctly without the
battery.

566
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:28,000
Now another thing that's kind of funny too
was a comment that he made about the battery.

567
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:36,000
Now, his brother said the battery has to be
good.

568
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Has to have something in it.

569
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:47,000
And I really don't know the reason why his
brother said that because I ran the machine.

570
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,000
With a bad battery and a good battery.

571
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:58,000
And the one thing I did notice, that you lose
a little bit of current in this meter by...

572
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,000
But I don't think that's an important thing.

573
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,000
In other words, because the tubes can only
take 300 volts maximum anyway.

574
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:17,000
And there is, you know, voltage here so
between ground, say earth ground, in here,...

575
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,000
If you touch the ground.

576
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,000
And it'll be a pretty good sized shock. It'll
be a 300 volt shock.

577
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,000
There'll be no current in it so you're not
going to die or anything like that.

578
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Well, you might if you have a pacemaker.

579
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:38,000
But the point is that you definitely don't
want to touch the ground and the thing whe...

580
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,000
You can go and you can do this with the
antenna.

581
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,000
And listen to it play the musical sound.

582
00:44:46,000 --> 00:45:00,000
And you know then the machine is operating
because that's the first thing John Sajaka...

583
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,000
He went right to the antenna and he grabbed
it and he went like this.

584
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:22,000
He just got this look on his face like, oh my
God, an unexperienced person with a buyer ...

585
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,000
What have I done here?

586
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:33,000
But what I want to point out to everybody is
we released everything in other DVDs too.

587
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:40,000
We've released the SG, SSG, we've released
other DVDs.

588
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,000
But we've released everything that we could
possibly release.

589
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:50,000
You know so people can learn whatever their
science is.

590
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,000
You know we've done more. We've done more.
They're just not released yet.

591
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:10,000
But I suggest that everybody get a series and
especially the Sajakophiles because this i...

592
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:16,000
If the people would buy the Sajakophiles,
there's a lot of information.

593
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:22,000
Like this is one of the devices that's in
there.

594
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,000
Right, the Yukako.

595
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,000
The Yukako. You can see it's only two stages.

596
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,000
And it's definitely here.

597
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,000
And see John Sajakoff figured out you don't
need this.

598
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,000
You do not need this eight-hand rate choke.

599
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,000
You don't need this capacitor because of the
wave shape he was looking for.

600
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,000
And that's the difference in the machines.

601
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:58,000
But you can see this one has 270k in the
plate and 1.8k in the cathode.

602
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,000
So if you divide that into that you're going
to get the gain of this stage.

603
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:08,000
And then this gain is multiplied by this gain
and that's what's coming out of the antenna.

604
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:15,000
And Sajaka said I need to have something that
works immediately.

605
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:21,000
That doesn't take a long time. It is weak.

606
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:29,000
So John made more stages to the machine which
anybody could do.

607
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Which drove his machine into infinity.

608
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,000
So do you feel like you understand this
machine a little bit?

609
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000
Now that we've done the recap, yeah.

610
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000
I still had some questions before.

611
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,000
But now you've gone over it again. It's
clarified a lot in my mind.

612
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,000
I have a question.

613
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Do you sort of reach the point of diminishing
returns with the number of stages?

614
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:04,000
Like if you added five more stages to where
you have ten stages, would that do anything?

615
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Well there's only so much you can multiply.

616
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,000
And then it's just...

617
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,000
When you're already at infinity then...

618
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,000
Yeah, you don't need to go anything more than
two to five stages.

619
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:29,000
I mean if you're just an early experimenter I
would probably buy the Sajaka files and bu...

620
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,000
However, I'm going to make that warning
again.

621
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Do not...

622
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000
Do not...

623
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,000
Touch the plate. Make sure the plate's clean.

624
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:55,000
Make sure that your skin oils and everything
that you do is off that plate when you goo...

625
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,000
Just make sure because this will come back on
you.

626
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,000
Even if you put the shield in there?

627
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Oh yeah, because if you put your fingerprint
on here...

628
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,000
Say this, witness is over here in Africa.

629
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:20,000
And now you've got your fingerprints all over
this plate and you've got DDT on there and...

630
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,000
And you live over here.

631
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,000
It's going to come right to you too.

632
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,000
Okay.

633
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,000
It's going to find that.

634
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,000
It's going to find the witness.

635
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Right, okay.

636
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,000
You know, it's going to find the destination
target.

637
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,000
Right.

638
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000
The witness has already got your imprint on
it.

639
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,000
Right.

640
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,000
That's unique to you.

641
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,000
Yeah.

642
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:48,000
The oils in your skin, your hair, any of
that's unique to you and not the other...

643
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,000
Yeah.

644
00:49:49,000 --> 00:50:06,000
So I think with that I'm pretty much finished
with this outside of maybe pointing out on...

645
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,000
So he's selected this tube for gain.

646
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:17,000
And what John was doing here was actually
matching all the gains of the tubes becaus...

647
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,000
And he's got 90 here.

648
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,000
And he's got 89 here.

649
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000
And he's got 94 here.

650
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:33,000
So he has selected these tubes to work in
this circuit at these frequency ranges.

651
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,000
And I'm not quite certain John ever owned a
spectrum analyzer.

652
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,000
They didn't have the technology we got now.

653
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,000
So he had to scope every one of these and
look at it.

654
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:56,000
And with that, that's pretty much what I
wanted to say outside that I'm telling...

655
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:01,000
Just get the DVDs so you understand all the
technology.

656
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,000
Right.

657
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:08,000
You know, if you start with the first DVD
with the energy, you'll understand that th...

658
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:15,000
And as you move up in DVDs, you're going to
find more and more things.

659
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,000
And then pretty soon this all becomes self
evident.

660
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,000
Yeah, it all becomes a positive.

661
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:29,000
It becomes the way that you're looking at the
energy because you remember you can't do...

662
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,000
You know, you can't destroy it.

663
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,000
You can just move it to another form.

664
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,000
And that's basically what this whole series
is about.

665
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:44,000
Is all these unique translations of energy.

666
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:57,000
And if you pay very close attention and you
actually build the circuits and get things...

667
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,000
And with that, I think that's pretty much
done.

668
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,000
Thank you.

669
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,000
That's great.

670
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,000
Thanks John.

671
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:10,000
I'll tell you, this thing is haunted.

672
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:15,000
I can tell you that because I've been in it
at night and you wouldn't believe what you...

673
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,000
A lot of whispering, things moving around.

674
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,000
So I just don't come here at night.

675
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,000
And I've been here several times in the dark.

676
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:32,000
And I'm going to tell you right now, there is
not just you here when you think you're he...

677
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,000
So it's definitely haunted.

678
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,000
Was there any crime committed here?

679
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,000
No, no.

680
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,000
But a lot of children were educated here.

681
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,000
And you'll hear a lot of creaks and groans
and whispering.

682
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,000
Whispering sounds and little voices in there.

683
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,000
And any kind of thing.

684
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,000
Children of the forum?

685
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,000
Yes, lots.

686
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,000
Mostly children.

687
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Children's voices.

688
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,000
Thank you.