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Corn, as you know, is a vegetable that was imported from the Caribbean up here.
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It was originally discovered in Haiti, I think.
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But corn, being a tropical plant like that, we have to plant seed in the spring, and
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of course they grow amazingly fast.
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By July, August, it's six or seven feet tall, or maybe eight feet tall.
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But it grows so fast, and the cells of the corn expand and multiply at such a great rate,
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and it pushes up from the center as a swirl, and it pushes up as it slips through the sections
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that are already completed.
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The new section will make a squeaking sound, and you can actually hear that in the fields
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because it's planted at 30,000 population, which is 30,000 plants per acre.
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An acre is 44,000 square feet.
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So you'll have almost a one plant to the square foot.
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It's remarkable.
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It's remarkable that you hear something grow, and it's growing as it's pushing up and expanding
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upwards.
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Each plant is growing at a different rate, at a different stage.
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So you could almost maybe put a tune together, but it'll be a solid amount of squeaking
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going on all the time, like a swing might make a squeaking sound like that.
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But that's what happens in the corn field.
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You've got that bamboo that's growing there.
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You've got a boat too.
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Yep.
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I haven't had it up very much this year.
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We were expecting a plumber.
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You can't break yourself if you have to.
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Yeah, right.
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I go fast this summer.
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I had two.
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Something happened.
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See, this is a potato.
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Well, I had the newspaper come out and took pictures of it.
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I had the US Department of Agriculture guy here.
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I said, what's going on?
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Could it actually cross?
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And he said, no, it can't be.
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He said, this is a throwback.
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So the original potatoes had fruit on them.
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And we domesticated the potato.
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And used the root.
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Yes.
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But he said, the originals, it produced a fruit.
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But anyway, we've got a lot of tomatoes off this thing this year.
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And I hope it's making potatoes inside.
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It probably is.
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Yeah.
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But it's kind of unique.
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I took a red potato and put it in quarters.
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Put a quarter of a potato in top of each butt.
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And it grew up.
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And they make the potatoes all right.
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But I never suspected it would make some fruit.
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It's remarkable, anyway.
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There's not too many you're going to see around like that.
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Right.
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Did Johnny ever talk to you about the biharmonics machine?
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Yeah.
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I have worked a lot with him.
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I have about 15 of them downstairs.
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Yeah.
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Biharmonics.
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And I worked a lot with biharmonics with him.
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Yeah.
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He was always interested in cycles.
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And cycles, as you know, can be represented on an oscilloscope.
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And that is when you see the frequency form on an oscilloscope is a true representation of a cycle.
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And likewise, the planets, the environment, the Earth itself runs in different cycles.
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Like the pulse, like the beating of a heart.
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And he was very interested in that, as everything could be identified by frequency.
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And therefore it had a certain cycle to it.
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And we got involved in a weather company, weather forecasting company called Weather Science Foundation,
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which is an old company.
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And they were in the process, or were in the business of forecasting weather,
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or private weather forecasts for companies.
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And they employed quite a few men, at one time several hundred people.
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It was in Glenview, Illinois.
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Oh, Illinois, okay.
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And Dr. Raymond Wheeler from the University of Kansas was probably the basis of that,
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because he had studied tree ring cycles for years and years,
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and was able to prove by the science of reading tree rings the different lengths of cycles that were repeating.
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And then he was also a co-worker with Dr. Selby Maxwell, who was an astronomer.
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And of course, Maxwell's theories were that since the Earth turns, the Moon turns, the Sun turns,
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everything in the universe turns, so they all have a cycle.
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And he was able to prove by the influence of the gravitational pull from the different astronomical bodies,
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like I say the Moon, the different planets, the Sun, very even distant stars.
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They change, by their action of their gravity, change the surface of the Earth, the atmospheric surface.
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And he was able to match those cycles with Dr. Wheeler's cycles.
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And Wheeler of course developed his own entirely different science, independent from Maxwell.
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But when you put the different cycles together that each man developed, they were the same length.
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And so they were able to build a company based on what those cycles would do for weather,
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and could run it forward or backward, and what they do after casting.
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So what they did is they'd run the cycles backwards, and they'd look at the weather that actually happened in recordable history,
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and see if those cycles matched. And they did. So they'd run them forward, and then they could tell forecasts.
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They were forecasting about 85% accuracy. And this was in the 20s and the 30s, without computers.
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This is a sum of 220,000 plus 1,000,000, 1,000,000 plus 5,000,000, 6,000,000 years.
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And this is weather and changes on the Earth. And if you talk about atmosphere,
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and there was a number of these scrolls that disappeared.
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This is that scroll that Dr. Maxwell wrote. This is how he wrote everything. And it was all put together. This is the original.
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Where's the door?
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This is 100 feet long.
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What's it about?
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Everything.
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It's all about weather. He always started paragraphs like this.
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Alchemists.
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Yeah, right. It's really something to read, and it really should be studied. It needs to be studied.
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Because he went into all kinds of taxes.
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Were he and John pretty well acquainted?
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He never knew him. He passed away before.
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John knew a lot about alchemy.
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Yes. And Dr. Maxwell had his own observatory built in Chicago.
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He had a lot of formulas.
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Listen, he talked about the Earth's mantle. He studied everything.
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And where did this come from?
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This is Dr. Selby Maxwell. He was part of the original Weather Science Foundation, which we purchased as a family.
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He bought that company, and then we renamed it Cyclomatic Engineering.
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He talked about time.
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Yeah, I saw that.
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He was right about the weather, the atmosphere of the Earth being perturbed by the gravitational pull of the planets.
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And not just the Moon and the Sun, but all of the planets, you have them up as a total effect upon the atmosphere.
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So that company had grown very old. I mean, the people that worked there were old people.
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And the science of forecasting and everything was changing.
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They had tied it in to markets, the way markets moved, based on the cycles.
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So that's how Johnny got interested, because he lived in Chicago.
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And he got to meet those people. And he became very, very interested in that.
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But what we were kind of concerned about was what other things would be affecting the markets other than weather.
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And that would be pesticides, pests, not just the weather, but a lot of the environmental things that affect us.
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So we got involved in another company, and that became one of the things that I think Johnny devoted most of his life to.
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And that was a company called Cyclomatics.
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And Cyclomatics incorporated the use of devices that would or could control pests from remote areas.
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It wasn't enough to know what the weather would do. You still have to control the other elements.
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So by using this equipment that was developed, and one of the base founders for this kind of process was Dr. Galen Horonomous.
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And Horonomous was able to do remotely things like killing insects at 1,000 miles away by having a pitcher.
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He worked with a pitcher and say a leaf. And he could kill the bugs on a tree 1,000 miles away.
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And he did that by using some of this equipment that my brother worked with.
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And that equipment today is still something that could work, but I'm more interested in the principle behind it about why could it work than why it did work.
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And I have that. I've got all that equipment, too.
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It was something that Johnny felt could, leaving a lot of problems that man has today.
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I know that Johnny was very religiously secretive about this device, and he regarded it as his priority.
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He safeguarded it. I suppose the fact that maybe he was so involved with it, he might have been very cautious about people imitating it.
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In fact, I don't know why he would be that way, because a lot of stuff that he put in this machine, he adapted from other people's.
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He called it a biharmonic machine, which is just another name for what it was doing.
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It's similar to the machines that were built in the past before he did.
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And he improved that because of the frequency that he used when he converted this or built this machine.
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It was built on overlapping frequencies, which he controlled by the selection.
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I don't know how many tubes. This is a tube machine. It's not built in transistors.
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He very much emphasized that. He had more control of the frequency of using tubes.
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But he had thousands of tubes that he used, until he found the exact ones that would match the frequencies that he wanted to transmit through.
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In that fact, it's kind of safeguarded by its own construction, because to imitate it would be very, very hard.
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It's really very hard.
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In the past, machines have been built like this for the application of medicine and chemicals for remote implementation.
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I mean that by applying it to land for protection against insects, and that's where I originally heard about it.
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But it's been used therapeutically for people, too.
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But the idea is to connect the machine with the person or with the plot of ground.
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He always used, say, a soil sample. If he wanted to treat ground against pests, he'd use a soil sample and a photograph.
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And tie those two together onto a plate.
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There's a plate like this, which is connected through here, and this is run to a ground.
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This plate being disinfected and cleaned before anything is put on here, and you put a photograph.
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He liked to use Polaroid, because the negative was included.
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And a soil sample, which he called a key.
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And then of course that was attached through here, and the ground was to a ground.
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Actually a good permanent ground wire with a six-foot rod.
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And then this was turned off. This was an antenna.
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And you could actually, if you had a soil sample from a piece of ground in India, you could treat that here by using this.
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And actually you'd power on around about 15 minutes to warm the circuits and the tubes up.
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And then you'd put this on, and that would, he says, spray, because he was licensed under the Department of Agriculture.
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And so that's why he has a spray.
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But that's what he was treating the ground through the matrix of the connectivity of the earth.
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So if you're treating a piece of ground in India, it wouldn't make any difference if it was next door, it was in India.
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So it would travel through the matrix system, through that.
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As you can see in there, it's just tubes and a transformer, but they're all tuned so that they put out a specific wavelength.
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And the key travels within that frequency, which he found to be capable of transmitting that information into the matrix.
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And the whole idea was to keep this completely clean of any other frequency except the key that he wanted to transmit to.
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So you disinfect that first, and then put your...
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Yeah, he always used rubber gloves and everything with this.
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He had no vibrations of himself onto anything, see.
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But the whole idea was you could remotely treat things for, and this was primarily for agriculture, but it could be used for a number of things.
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But that's all he directly intended to use it for.
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And I've gotten a number of witnesses and pictures and photographs and stuff of what actually happened to areas that he treated.
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And I can say it worked, it definitely did work.
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He had, I think, a couple dozen farmers that he used in Nebraska and Iowa that used these machines.
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And they leased them from him on a leasing contract.
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And they treated thousands of acres with it.
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As far as I knew, I was never told that there was any problem with it, it seemed to work.
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But he only promoted it so far.
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I mean, there's a limit to how much you can actually push this kind of device, you know.
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And if you raise a bunch of eyebrows, you're going to be in trouble.
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So the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Federal Communications System representatives, they all contacted him and met with him.
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And it was licensed and approved through the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
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What kind of years would that have been?
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This was, I would say, in the 70s, probably 71 or 72, through probably the first part of the 80s, 81 or 82.
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About 10 years, I suppose.
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It was just the devices he was very interested in.
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He knew it had other ramifications, as far as a way to use it to maybe generate income or help people.
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He just wanted to do that.
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He finally ran out of interest in it.
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I think that's why it kind of died, and it was not really promoted after that.
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So basically this is an iteration or development of the Hieronymus network?
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Yeah.
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He and I did travel down to Sea Gale and Hieronymus and spent some time with him in Georgia.
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And I know Johnny had further contacts with him later, but I was there on his initial trip and met Dr. Hieronymus.
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And as far as the machine, I think the basis of the way he built it was a lot like the original Hieronymus machines.
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But he wanted to do, and the way to actually work within the law was to get it certified through the Department of Agriculture, and it was.
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And so it was completely legitimate and was used for several years.
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But not to the extent that commercialization of the big companies, because chemical companies would not have gone along with this.
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But I think he just wanted to stay that way.
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He didn't want to get too big enough to ruffle any feathers.
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But generally I don't know what to tell you about the machine that seemed to work.
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I got to know some of the farmers that used them through Johnny, but I had nothing to do with the business end of it.
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We talked about some of the results, and I just didn't get into it with him.
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About how many of these machines did he build?
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Well, as far as I knew, there were two dozen of them built at the time.
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And I don't have all of them back.
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There's probably, I've got some in storage, and I've got four or five here at the house.
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And parts for different parts of them.
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And I've got a collection of tubes that would work in these machines, which he painstakingly went through with a oscilloscope to find the right ones.
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So I have those too.
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I could rebuild them, but I had really not any interest in doing that.
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But they work, as far as I know they still work.
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And it's regular 110 volts, just plug and play?
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Plug it in, and like I said, you want to turn it on, let it warm up for about 15 minutes, and then you can turn on the transmitter.
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How long do you have to transmit for?
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Oh, I think he said, and I found out too, about half an hour.
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About 30 minutes minimum.
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I don't know what that reason for that was, but he felt that it would take at least that long.
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Does the mental state of the operator get involved?
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Does the operator have to be concentrating on the particular field, or is it irrelevant?
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Once you put the witness in there, it's the key in there?
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That's right.
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It was built to be that way, so you would not be personally involved with it.
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It's not like some of the other machines prior to that that were built where the operator had to be personally connected to it.
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You didn't have any physical connection with the machine.
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Once you laid down all the stuff, it was automatic after that.
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The early radionic machines, the person was connected.
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I think there was a hazard to that, because if you used chemicals or whatever, a person could become contaminated.
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He wanted it to be more impersonal and work more on an objective basis.
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I think that's the problem.
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I think that's the problem.
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This would be the original one that John Sajek had developed,
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and I think in the late 70s, I think this was.
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And this one over here is a remake of this machine,
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only in a nicer chassis and everything.
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So the one on the left is the one that runs Sajek into us.
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Yes, and John used to lease these out for doing work in the field,
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and then he had a plate that went into the biocon with a picture on it.
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And so let's just open this up so that everybody can get a look.
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Anyway, let's start with a look inside so everybody can understand
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that it was a tube unit, and these tubes are all of the same type tubes,
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one, two, three, four of them, and one rectifier tube for the power transformer.
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And what this machine actually does is the picture,
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when the plate is plugged into the biocon and this is grounded to a water pipe or something,
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the picture resonates with this antenna right here.
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So it's like a loop that's going around and around and around and around,
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and it's never ending, and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger as it builds its area in space.
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And so how this machine actually operates is you warm up the tube filaments
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and then give that about five minutes or ten minutes.
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Make sure that the image that's on the plate then is covered up with a bell jar or something
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so nothing can get on it, and then you hit the spray,
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and that spray then starts the units transmitting now.
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I don't know whether or not that I would agree with that you actually need an FCC license for this
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because it's not interfering in any radio bands or anything.
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So let's get started and understand the principle of it.
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So the first thing that we're going to do is we're going to start with the
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So the first amplifier, if we look at it and integrate it circuit wise,
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we're going to set some gain on this amplifier.
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And so you would do that by putting the resistor to ground, and then you'd have feedback.
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And then what you do is you would set the gain between these two resistors,
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and you want to make this gain as high as you can.
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Say, let's just take this as an example, 100,000.
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Okay, so you got 100,000 gain, and then what would you take this input right here,
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and you run that to a plate, then you take the output of that amplifier and run it to an antenna.
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So that when you put the image on this plate, that's in resonance with this amplifier.
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So what you're doing is you're creating waves, and it's sort of self-oscillating, self-oscillating.
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The ideal wave would be something like this, with all the frequencies in between.
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All right, but that's not how this machine operates, because it's not solid state.
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I'm just giving an explanation here of the symbol of an amplifier.
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Okay. I take it that the mains going to that plate as well, right?
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Well, the wire is connected, right, the wire is connected. The power supply is already on the IC here.
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Oh, okay.
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All right, so I'm just showing you a gain stage of 100,000.
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Okay.
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All right. I'm trying to make the analogy real simple for everybody to understand,
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that it's a resonance between this plate and the antenna, and it's like a feedback.
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So it's like an oscillator. So what's going to happen is it's going to oscillate like this.
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But you want to chop these, you want to chop these to where it's oscillating like this,
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with all the frequencies in between.
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Okay.
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In other words, as it oscillates, it's like a ringing oscillator, you follow me?
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It's like an oscillator that's ringing, where the waves are going up and down,
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and these are all the frequencies, and being that this plate is the witness.
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Whatever you're putting on this plate is the witness in this loop that's continually growing, like this.
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Okay.
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You follow me?
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Yeah.
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So say, let's take what we've done, and we're going to take the frequency,
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and we're going to take the frequency, and we're going to take the frequency,
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and we're going to take the frequency, and we're going to take the frequency,
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and so say, let's take what we've drawn right here, these loops, right?
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And let's just say this is South Africa, okay?
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And I get a soil sample from South Africa, and a picture from South Africa,
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and I put that on this plate, and there's this tree that's infested, all right?
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Sooner or later, these waves are going to reach that point.
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See that?
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Yeah.
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And it's going to hit in that area.
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So, the machine.
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What you put on the witness plate is a Polaroid picture?
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Yeah, a Polaroid picture, which of course everybody knows the Polaroid's hard to get now.
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Yeah.
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Right, but it can be got.
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And basically, the Polaroid has a positive and a negative.
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And since this machine, this machine, the solid state machine, wasn't like the tubes,
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we would have to flip this IC to be a non-inverting machine, and I'll show you why in a minute.
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All right, so let's suppose.
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Just to back up a little bit.
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So the guy in South Africa would have sent you a Polaroid picture of an infested tree.
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Right.
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Yeah, so you put it.
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I would have took that picture and the soil sample in a part of the tree,
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and then I would have put the treatment on there without touching anything, and turned the machine on.
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Okay, all right.
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And then what this thing's going to do is start oscillating.
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See?
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It's going to form this loop.
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So it's like a never-ending circle that's growing and growing and growing,
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and it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger, until it saturates the area.
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So it's going to keep stopping from a small spot and going out big?
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Yeah, it's going to keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and I'm going to show you why.
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All right, okay.
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So let's take the actual circuit.
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Now, I don't really want to draw the whole circuit, because it would take me quite a while to do this.
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But I'll give you an example.
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We're going to start out with a plate, which is a copper plate, and say this is 5 inches by 5 inches.
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Okay.
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So we have a square plate.
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Right?
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And this plate on this machine, on these machines, is actually going into the grid of a tube.
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All right?
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And that tube, you know, has either the cathode grounded or it goes to a resistor to ground.
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In this case, it's a Jacob and a resistor to ground, all right, which was some low value of 30 ohms.
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So why put it there?
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Anyway, it's this tube.
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And of course, this is going to your power supply, which they call B plus.
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And this, people that work with tubes will know exactly what I'm talking about here.
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And what's funny about the machine is that this one here, he used a 6AC7 tube, but he still takes this grid,
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and he ties it to the cathode, which would be the same thing as an audio tube, a 6L6 or a 6V6.
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Things people are familiar with that ever worked with tubes.
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And he ties this screen right up to the B plus level.
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Now, off the plate of the tube is an antenna.
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He calls that the antenna, and that's coupled through a low value capacitor so that you, you know, don't get any high voltage at the antenna.
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So what's actually happening here is this is making an oscillator.
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All right?
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So the thing starts to oscillate.
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This gain, say, is 5,000.
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You know, this resistor divided by that resistor will give you the gain of the tube.
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All right?
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So 30 ohms, and then this is like 250,000 K.
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So of course, the gain of the tube is going to be very high.
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So we're just going to say 5,000.
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And that's hardly enough to make the circuit operate the way we want it to operate because we want it to, we want it to sort of self-oscillate.
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Okay.
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All right?
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So the next stage, without the antenna, if we just disconnect the antenna, and we go into the next stage of the tube,
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see,
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now this gain is multiplied by this gain.
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So what we have is we have this multiplication factor and gain, and that's going to increase the oscillations.
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We're going to get more frequencies in the oscillations when we do this.
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Okay, so now we take this out to the antenna.
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And now we take our sample picture, which will be a tree.
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We're just going to call it a tree that's in the Polaroid picture.
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Now, what was unique about the Polaroid was it had a negative in it.
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And this machine is inverting.
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It's inverting the signal.
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In other words, what's going in here is going this direction, and what's coming out here is going that direction.
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So it's inverting the signal.
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So that's the reason for the negative.
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So is that like a mirror image?
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Yeah, it's a mirror image, but opposite, you know, completely opposite, 180 degrees out of phase.
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Right.
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And so what is actually happening is our machine's right here.
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And when we start this machine into operation, these waves are generated, oscillation waves.
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And they keep growing like this.
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So now if we say our machine's in the United States...
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Right.
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Is that the F-4 idea?
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Yeah, right.
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We say our machine's in the United States here.
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It doesn't make any difference where we are in the United States.
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This wave's still growing and growing and growing and growing and growing.
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So it can reach this image with the treatment.
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So presumably it'll go all around the world and come back anyway to the US.
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Well, it just keeps growing.
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Right.
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You know, it just keeps growing and growing and growing and growing.
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And the tree is located over here in Africa somewhere, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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And you see the waves have already hit the tree with this treatment on it.
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So whatever you put here, right, what's going to happen is this message is going to be relayed in these oscillations that are riding on these waves.
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See?
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And so that's exactly how the machine is going to get its witness out using a gain amplifier.
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Not really an RF transmitter, but a gain amplifier.
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And what are these waves going to be?
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They're not RF frequency.
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They're low frequency waves.
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Because this thing's only doing like 150 hertz or 200 hertz with all these waves in them of this witness.
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So I wouldn't really call it RF because it's not radio frequency.
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It's a high voltage, low frequency wave that's oscillating.
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And you can see that when you look on the scope.
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You can see that it's generating harmonics, you know, in a band.
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And the harmonics are, will start out like this and will have a middle harmonic that the machine's running in.
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And with all the frequencies in here that are mixing up, it's like modulating inside there.
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So it's going to generate harmonic frequencies.
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See?
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And this may be at 200 hertz.
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And this one may be at 15k.
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This one may be at 20k.
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And this one may be at 100k.
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So see, it's running in a curve.
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Like that.
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So it's most power is going to be right in here.
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And then the harmonics are going to be in here.
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But they're going to be on this wave like this.
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On this pulse frequency that's in between these two bands.
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In other words, what's going to happen is,
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as this oscillator, oscillated, chops off.
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So basically we're looking at, let's just do it with square waves so you understand it.
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And they're only going in one direction.
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So they're going in this direction with all the frequencies in between.
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But when you look at it with a spectrum analyzer, this is what you see.
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In other words, when you take a spectrum analyzer and you look at this, this is exactly what you see.
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You see that these frequencies between the witness and the oscillator circuit are generating harmonics.
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And so it's really a true sideband instrument.
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In other words, it's using the sidebands to make up all these frequencies.
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And that's part of what this witness is.
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So one of these frequencies in the witness is there.
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And so it keeps generating, generating, generating, generating.
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And it keeps building.
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Now, John Sijeky used to say that you could take an AM radio out in the field
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and tune it to a station right where you had taken the picture.
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You could hold the AM radio and hear the 60-cycle hum.
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Well, there's a reason for that.
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Because on the power supply itself, right, he never used a filter capacitor.
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So it just looked like this.
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It was unfiltered.
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So you're saying that the polaroid of the tree that was in the witness,
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if you went to where that polaroid had been taken, where the tree was, and you had a radio,
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you would hear, when the machine was turned on, you would hear the hum.
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You would hear a 60-cycle hum. That's what he said to me.
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Of course, I never bothered with that theory because I built, you know,
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four or five different of these machines.
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And they worked. They worked for what I was doing.
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And I really, I will tell you this, that they worked well for healing when they were used right.
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And they worked for corn.
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And they worked for an infestation of wasps.
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But you have to be very careful because you don't want your fingerprints on this.
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Did he say he actually put in that?
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Well, he was treating whatever Johnson and Jacob was treating,
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you know, depending on what insecticide that he wanted to use to kill the bugs in that field.
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And everybody must remember, he had approval to do this.
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Yeah, I know. That's what money can do.
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Yeah, he had approval. He was authorized by the FCC to generate these low-frequency waves,
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which are now used for submarines. You know, they're down there.
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And so he had a license to do this.
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But the problem is nobody understands exactly what the machine does.
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They understand that it's a bioharmonics machine,
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and the reason he called it bioharmonics was because of all the harmonic structures.
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And he was using biomaterial, so therefore you see here Biocon.
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You see Biocon right here.
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Well, let's turn on the Biocon.
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And once we turn on the Biocon, this thing's going to start oscillating and doing this.
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And it's going to go to wherever the witness the picture was taken from.
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You mentioned about not touching the witness or the picture, not having your personal information.
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You do not want to lay your fingerprint on this.
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Or any of your body oils.
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Right, because if you're treating this with an insecticide, your signature is on this plate.
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You definitely do not want to touch that.
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I must give you, you know, if you build this type of device,
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and you're using this type of device to do this, I must give you a warning about this.
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One of those things is these rubber gloves.
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And you want to take them out, and you preferably do not want to touch the ends.
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And you want to put them on and handle whatever you're handling.
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And you do want to wipe everything down with alcohol when you're doing this.
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Because otherwise, your imprint is going to be on this plate.
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Even if you touch the sides or the bottom, you must make sure that your imprint is not on this plate at all.
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Otherwise, the machine is going to seek you out.
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Okay, so you put your rubber gloves on, then you get an alcohol wipe cloth and you wipe.
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Make sure there are no things left.
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Yes, yes.
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You have to be far safer than a doctor scrubbing with this type of device,
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because of the gains and the way it oscillates and where it runs all these frequencies in the band.
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So this is actually a pretty dangerous...
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Oh, it was a very, very dangerous machine in that.
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Good question, Pat, because that was the thing with the Department of Agriculture and the FCC.
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The government knew that this machine could be used for other things.
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And so they were very worried that it wouldn't be used for that.
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So that's the reason why he had an agricultural license and an FCC license,
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and he had to keep absolute detailed logs of where the machines were and what the machines were treating.
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A very important thing.
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Yeah. I seem to remember Ronnie saying that he got worried because the farmers were turning them on each other.
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Yes, yes. John Sijaka got very worried.
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And then he discontinued the project when the farmers started taking pictures of the other farmer
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and then putting it in the machine and doing strange things with the machines.
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This was very dangerous, because people were getting sick.
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So rather than probably lose everything that John worked for, he just called them all in.
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Got them all back, except for a few. I think he didn't get a few back.
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But who was going to repair them? And where were they going to find the tubes?
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And they didn't know what John's matching process was for the tubes.
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So how were they going to figure this out?
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So once their shelf life hits, that was it?
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Right. Once they were gone, you just couldn't take another tube and put it in here because it was tuned.
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You know, John spent hours and hours tuning this with a scope to make sure that the wave was right.
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So today you can tune it pretty easy because we have spectrum analyzers.
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You know, and if you get one that goes down low enough and freaks something like a Pico scope or something like that,
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you can tune this thing real easy because you can see these side bands.
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Yeah.
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You know, you can actually move to each one of these and know exactly what this frequency is.
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And then you can change this tube and put another tube in.
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And then you can watch these bands move and change the fundamental frequency, right, which is the biggest one.
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Because this is the main master frequency.
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There's a main master with all this modulation inside of it that causes these side bands all the way out.
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And it's important that you tune it.
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I mean, you just don't throw the machine together and expect it to work.
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You have to look at the tuning of the machine to where it's oscillating with the most frequency
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and the most side bands out.
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So the machine that you built over there, you have tuned that?
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Yes, with a spectrum analyzer to match John's.
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Now, I didn't hear you mention this, but how many stages of amplification are there in the machine?
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Well, John used five and I'll show you that here.
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So, I'll go through this again.
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First, we have the witness plate.
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And our Polaroid picture has some picture on it, which in this case will make it a tree.
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Okay.
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Right?
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An elm tree.
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Okay.
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And that elm tree is sitting at your house, Pat.
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Okay.
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And it's infested with beetles.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So now, we've taken a Polaroid picture of that and we've got a beetle, which now is dead.
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And we have an insecticide.
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And what are we going to do?
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Rubber gloves.
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Right.
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You're not going to touch.
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You're going to make sure this is totally clean.
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And then we're going to put the beetle.
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It's a big beetle.
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Well, they're big.
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And we're going to put a vial of the insecticide.
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Okay.
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All in that picture.
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And the first thing that we're going to do, and I'm going to leave this here so you can get a good picture of it, is we're going to build John's little amplifier here.
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We're going to do it with tubes.
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So I'm sorry if they're not, if everybody's not experienced with tubes.
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All right.
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So this is your amplifier that you built now.
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Well, this is exactly how it's done.
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And we got the first stage.
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Okay.
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All right.
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And our witness is connected to the first page.
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And tubes, you always remember that, you know, you've got a one mega ohm resistor to ground.
57:36.860 --> 57:40.860
And say this is 30 ohms.
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And this is 270 k ohms.
57:45.860 --> 57:49.860
So we know that we've got a pretty high gain here.
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And so you would divide that into that.
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And that would give you the gain of the circuit.
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Again, I'm not going to sit here and divide it all for you to give you the gain.
57:57.860 --> 58:05.860
I'm just going to show you how that it we accomplish what we're going to accomplish.
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Okay.
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So this is the first stage of the machine.
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Now, the second stage of the machine then is identical to this stage.
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So everything is staying the same.
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You notice this?
58:28.860 --> 58:35.860
Yeah.
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So everything operates the same.
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So now let's give this a gain number.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Let's give this a game of say 5000.
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Okay.
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So the gain is 5000 in the first stage.
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And that's coupled to the next stage.
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And the gain of this stage is 5000.
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So see what's happening here.
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It's not 10,000.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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And so then the next stage.
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So John had five stages.
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Okay.
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And so we just do it this way without me drawing the whole circuit and everything.
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And just the grid.
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You can see that each one of these is 5000, 5000, 5000.
59:39.860 --> 59:40.860
So you got 25,000.
59:40.860 --> 59:45.860
Well, 5000.
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5000 times 5000.
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Times 5000.
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Oh, times 5000.
59:50.860 --> 59:51.860
Right.
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Okay.
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See, so what do you got now?
59:54.860 --> 59:55.860
Wow.
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The gain is pretty high.
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Yeah.
59:58.860 --> 01:00:00.860
So this machine is operating.
01:00:00.860 --> 01:00:01.860
Times, not plus.
01:00:01.860 --> 01:00:02.860
Yeah.
01:00:02.860 --> 01:00:03.860
Times, yeah.
01:00:03.860 --> 01:00:04.860
Right, it's times.
01:00:04.860 --> 01:00:09.860
See, and it keeps doing this.
01:00:09.860 --> 01:00:12.860
It keeps multiplying this.
01:00:12.860 --> 01:00:18.860
So now basically if you think about it for a minute, it's going to self-oscillate with
01:00:18.860 --> 01:00:20.860
that high a gain.
01:00:20.860 --> 01:00:21.860
Yeah.
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Here's an example of that.
01:00:25.860 --> 01:00:32.860
I got a speaker with an amplifier and I got the witness and that's a microphone.
01:00:32.860 --> 01:00:39.860
And I've set the gain on that amplifier to say be five level or ten level.
01:00:39.860 --> 01:00:43.860
And I start walking towards the speaker.
01:00:43.860 --> 01:00:46.860
What's going to happen?
01:00:46.860 --> 01:00:48.860
You're going to get distortion.
01:00:48.860 --> 01:00:50.860
You're going to get feedback.
01:00:50.860 --> 01:00:55.860
Well, that's exactly what's happening here.
01:00:55.860 --> 01:00:57.860
You see how it's generating this wave?
01:00:57.860 --> 01:00:58.860
Okay.
01:00:58.860 --> 01:01:03.860
And the last stage, I'll only draw three, but we know there's five.
01:01:03.860 --> 01:01:05.860
Right.
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The last stage is coupled through a capacitor to the antenna, which is right here.
01:01:16.860 --> 01:01:22.860
Now notice the length of the antenna.
01:01:22.860 --> 01:01:30.860
That's the most length that you're going to have, which is I think this is almost five feet.
01:01:30.860 --> 01:01:32.860
Yeah.
01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:35.860
Pretty close by the time you get it already extended.
01:01:35.860 --> 01:01:38.860
About 52 inches is exactly what you want.
01:01:38.860 --> 01:01:41.860
So I'm going to put 52 inches here.
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Okay.
01:01:42.860 --> 01:01:44.860
And that's that.
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Now the plate is then plugged into the Biocon.
01:01:51.860 --> 01:01:59.860
And this thing right now with a bare plate is whistling.
01:01:59.860 --> 01:02:04.860
So John used to always go like this with his hand.
01:02:04.860 --> 01:02:11.860
And it would play a musical tune like all the way up.
01:02:11.860 --> 01:02:14.860
He'd say, machine's working.
01:02:14.860 --> 01:02:18.860
It'd be playing this tune.
01:02:18.860 --> 01:02:21.860
Now you have this stuff on the plate.
01:02:21.860 --> 01:02:22.860
Right.
01:02:22.860 --> 01:02:29.860
You have 5,000 times 5,000 times 5,000 times 5,000 times 5,000.
01:02:29.860 --> 01:02:32.860
Now I didn't calculate the number.
01:02:32.860 --> 01:02:34.860
I just gave you an example.
01:02:34.860 --> 01:02:35.860
Right.
01:02:35.860 --> 01:02:36.860
Here.
01:02:36.860 --> 01:02:39.860
Normally you divide that into that, and that would give you the game in the first stage
01:02:39.860 --> 01:02:44.860
and second stage and third stage and fourth stage.
01:02:44.860 --> 01:02:53.860
So once again what's happening is the game's so high it's like I got the microphone right up to the end of the speaker.
01:02:53.860 --> 01:03:01.860
And the acoustic noise and the feedback is so bad you can't control it.
01:03:01.860 --> 01:03:09.860
So the thing is this isn't transmitting RF.
01:03:09.860 --> 01:03:12.860
There is no RF.
01:03:12.860 --> 01:03:16.860
Except for maybe a very small amount.
01:03:16.860 --> 01:03:18.860
So what's it transmitting?
01:03:18.860 --> 01:03:24.860
I always said since I looked at the spectrum analyzer that infrasonic waves,
01:03:24.860 --> 01:03:28.860
something like low frequency sound waves,
01:03:28.860 --> 01:03:33.860
you know, were coming out of this thing because it was playing, you could hear it.
01:03:33.860 --> 01:03:38.860
You could hear it with your ears as you went up the antenna would play a musical scale.
01:03:38.860 --> 01:03:39.860
Yeah.
01:03:39.860 --> 01:03:43.860
So, so once again what's it doing?
01:03:43.860 --> 01:03:55.860
It's feeding back between this witness and the antenna.
01:03:55.860 --> 01:03:58.860
And it's going both directions.
01:03:58.860 --> 01:03:59.860
Okay.
01:03:59.860 --> 01:04:04.860
So where it goes out it comes back to.
01:04:04.860 --> 01:04:14.860
Now, a little trick to keep the signal from coming back on itself.
01:04:14.860 --> 01:04:27.860
And that little trick was in this circuit here in this ground circuit if we just change these signs
01:04:27.860 --> 01:04:30.860
to look like that.
01:04:30.860 --> 01:04:34.860
The trick, and we connect them all together.
01:04:34.860 --> 01:04:37.860
These are all common now.
01:04:37.860 --> 01:04:41.860
If we took a battery, right?
01:04:41.860 --> 01:04:46.860
And it has to be a dry cell battery, it has to be a carbon zinc battery.
01:04:46.860 --> 01:04:49.860
And we put that in ground.
01:04:49.860 --> 01:04:52.860
Put this battery in the ground.
01:04:52.860 --> 01:04:58.860
And that shields the wave from coming back on itself.
01:04:58.860 --> 01:05:01.860
And it doesn't work right without it.
01:05:01.860 --> 01:05:02.860
Okay.
01:05:02.860 --> 01:05:07.860
Because then the wave can come back on itself.
01:05:07.860 --> 01:05:09.860
You see what I'm saying?
01:05:09.860 --> 01:05:17.860
So, again I'll tell you that this thing keeps building.
01:05:17.860 --> 01:05:22.860
And it gets bigger and bigger and bigger.
01:05:22.860 --> 01:05:27.860
And you want to know something that's really important.
01:05:27.860 --> 01:05:30.860
These are low frequencies.
01:05:30.860 --> 01:05:34.860
These waves are low frequencies.
01:05:34.860 --> 01:05:43.860
But in these low frequencies are all these oscillations.
01:05:43.860 --> 01:05:49.860
With the fundamentals and all the side bands.
01:05:49.860 --> 01:05:51.860
And that's part of this now.
01:05:51.860 --> 01:05:53.860
Because it's in the loop.
01:05:53.860 --> 01:05:54.860
Okay.
01:05:54.860 --> 01:05:56.860
In the oscillator loop.
01:05:56.860 --> 01:06:10.860
So that's how this, all this, gets to the point of destination.
01:06:10.860 --> 01:06:17.860
I have the soil sample, I have the bug, I have the tree.
01:06:17.860 --> 01:06:21.860
And I have the chemical.
01:06:21.860 --> 01:06:24.860
And so what did I just do with the machine?
01:06:24.860 --> 01:06:29.860
I just impressed upon this machine.
01:06:29.860 --> 01:06:36.860
This in terms of an oscillation.
01:06:36.860 --> 01:06:37.860
You see what I'm saying?
01:06:37.860 --> 01:06:38.860
Yeah.
01:06:38.860 --> 01:06:41.860
It's in terms of an oscillation.
01:06:41.860 --> 01:06:49.860
Which means now it's part of the transmission that it's putting out.
01:06:49.860 --> 01:06:55.860
So what happens is this goes out through these waves.
01:06:55.860 --> 01:07:00.860
And it finds this point and treats it.
01:07:00.860 --> 01:07:07.860
So how long do you reckon it would take for the infestation to be cured?
01:07:07.860 --> 01:07:16.860
Well, John said that once the machine reached a full saturation level,
01:07:16.860 --> 01:07:24.860
it probably took a couple of weeks to clear it all out.
01:07:24.860 --> 01:07:30.860
Now he did do something that was kind of exciting because he talked about it with me.
01:07:30.860 --> 01:07:38.860
He got a job by the U.S. Agriculture Department to clean out mill foil.
01:07:38.860 --> 01:07:40.860
Oh, that's a weed?
01:07:40.860 --> 01:07:41.860
Yeah, a weed.
01:07:41.860 --> 01:07:47.860
And he was able to take this machine and kill all the mill foil.
01:07:47.860 --> 01:07:54.860
So they knew right then and there that it could be used for other things.
01:07:54.860 --> 01:07:58.860
So presumably he would have had a photo of the field where the mill foil was.
01:07:58.860 --> 01:07:59.860
He did, yes he did.
01:07:59.860 --> 01:08:01.860
And a little bit of the soil and the mill foil.
01:08:01.860 --> 01:08:02.860
He had all that.
01:08:02.860 --> 01:08:05.860
And then he treated the mill foil and it was gone.
01:08:05.860 --> 01:08:07.860
But he also did it.
01:08:08.860 --> 01:08:11.860
You know, John was into all this kind of stuff.
01:08:11.860 --> 01:08:21.860
I'm not saying that he was an absolute engineer when it came to calculating all the gains and everything.
01:08:21.860 --> 01:08:24.860
I mean, he did what worked.
01:08:24.860 --> 01:08:30.860
And he did visit other people that were working with radionics and stuff.
01:08:30.860 --> 01:08:32.860
I think Hieronymus was one.
01:08:32.860 --> 01:08:34.860
Wasn't it, Tony?
01:08:34.860 --> 01:08:38.860
Yeah, Ron said they would visit a lot of us.
01:08:38.860 --> 01:08:41.860
And I think other people too.
01:08:41.860 --> 01:08:51.860
Yeah, but John was not the type that would just run out and have coffee with you and then talk about this machine.
01:08:51.860 --> 01:08:56.860
In other words, he had to be in private with John.
01:08:56.860 --> 01:08:59.860
He had to be totally private with John.
01:08:59.860 --> 01:09:04.860
And I'll never forget the look on his face when I called him up.
01:09:04.860 --> 01:09:07.860
It was 1230 at night.
01:09:07.860 --> 01:09:11.860
And I said, John, you better get your butt over here.
01:09:11.860 --> 01:09:13.860
I want to show you something.
01:09:13.860 --> 01:09:16.860
And he says, what?
01:09:16.860 --> 01:09:19.860
I said, I just built your biormonics machine.
01:09:19.860 --> 01:09:22.860
And of course, John liked to get around a lot, right?
01:09:22.860 --> 01:09:27.860
He would say, no, you didn't, like that.
01:09:27.860 --> 01:09:31.860
And I said, well, then just get your, and I said ass.
01:09:31.860 --> 01:09:35.860
But, and it came over.
01:09:35.860 --> 01:09:38.860
I said, get your ass over here.
01:09:38.860 --> 01:09:44.860
And he walked in the garage and he looked at the scope and he just went.
01:09:44.860 --> 01:09:50.860
Oh.
01:09:50.860 --> 01:09:53.860
That's exactly what he did.
01:09:53.860 --> 01:09:57.860
He says, you better watch out.
01:09:57.860 --> 01:10:01.860
He said to me, he says, you better be careful.
01:10:01.860 --> 01:10:04.860
And I said, why?
01:10:04.860 --> 01:10:08.860
I said, you're the one that said I couldn't do it.
01:10:08.860 --> 01:10:15.860
And he didn't even ask the question how I got the wave shape or anything like that.
01:10:15.860 --> 01:10:19.860
Because my machine was totally different.
01:10:19.860 --> 01:10:21.860
My machine was totally different.
01:10:21.860 --> 01:10:23.860
It had filter capacitors.
01:10:23.860 --> 01:10:25.860
How did he know that yours was working?
01:10:25.860 --> 01:10:27.860
We could see the wave on the scope.
01:10:27.860 --> 01:10:32.860
And the first thing he did was he went to the antenna and he went.
01:10:32.860 --> 01:10:38.860
Like that and he goes.
01:10:38.860 --> 01:10:42.860
You better be careful.
01:10:42.860 --> 01:10:51.860
And I certainly found out that you better be careful because I thought.
01:10:51.860 --> 01:10:58.860
I thought that it was a simple procedure to take the yellow jacket infestation.
01:10:58.860 --> 01:11:02.860
And just spray them with spray on the plate.
01:11:02.860 --> 01:11:06.860
I had been touching the plate.
01:11:06.860 --> 01:11:08.860
I'm going to tell you something.
01:11:08.860 --> 01:11:10.860
You can get real sick.
01:11:10.860 --> 01:11:13.860
And so I'm warning everybody.
01:11:13.860 --> 01:11:24.860
If you attempt this radionics or whatever you want to call it, psychotronics, radionics, biharmonics, you better watch out.
01:11:24.860 --> 01:11:35.860
You know, now the other thing about this is this can be used for good too.
01:11:35.860 --> 01:11:39.860
This can be used with vitamins.
01:11:39.860 --> 01:11:43.860
It can be used with people, you know, as a witness.
01:11:43.860 --> 01:11:48.860
Providing that you don't want to do any harm with anything like this.
01:11:48.860 --> 01:11:51.860
You only want to do good with it.
01:11:51.860 --> 01:11:57.860
You know, you don't think you're just going to take something and get even with somebody because it doesn't really work that way.
01:11:57.860 --> 01:11:59.860
Right.
01:11:59.860 --> 01:12:03.860
You know, there's a danger to doing this.
01:12:03.860 --> 01:12:10.860
And one of the dangers is if you forget one little thing that I've said, it will come back on you.
01:12:10.860 --> 01:12:14.860
And I'll be devastating when it comes back on you.
01:12:14.860 --> 01:12:24.860
And this is probably why John had to have the agriculture license and the FCC license.
01:12:24.860 --> 01:12:29.860
Is because there's really no radio transmission here, Pat.
01:12:29.860 --> 01:12:33.860
This is not an RF type oscillator.
01:12:33.860 --> 01:12:38.860
You know, that's like crystal controlled where you have a radio frequency that's constant.
01:12:38.860 --> 01:12:41.860
No, this isn't doing that.
01:12:41.860 --> 01:12:49.860
This is generating this musical wave, which he called a musical wave, in cycles.
01:12:49.860 --> 01:12:54.860
In other words, it's generating that wave in cycles.
01:12:54.860 --> 01:12:59.860
In those cycles is what he said.
01:12:59.860 --> 01:13:04.860
Now, I never did it, so I'm going to be totally honest with everybody here.
01:13:04.860 --> 01:13:16.860
I never went to where I was doing the treatment with an AM radio to find out if this, really this wave was there.
01:13:16.860 --> 01:13:19.860
But I believe what he said.
01:13:19.860 --> 01:13:27.860
Because John proved a few things to me with these machines and I proved a few things to him.
01:13:27.860 --> 01:13:30.860
I really can't go in that, but...
01:13:30.860 --> 01:13:36.860
Presumably that's one reason why the Minister of Agriculture didn't think it was a good idea in the end.
01:13:36.860 --> 01:13:38.860
Well, no, because the...
01:13:38.860 --> 01:13:40.860
They didn't withdraw that provision, though.
01:13:40.860 --> 01:13:43.860
No, they didn't take anything away from John.
01:13:43.860 --> 01:13:45.860
Okay.
01:13:45.860 --> 01:13:48.860
You know, John stopped this on his own.
01:13:48.860 --> 01:13:50.860
Okay.
01:13:50.860 --> 01:13:52.860
But he always kept a special machine.
01:13:52.860 --> 01:13:53.860
Yeah.
01:13:53.860 --> 01:13:57.860
Because he would every once in a while come to my shop with a...
01:13:57.860 --> 01:14:00.860
It was in a smaller case than this.
01:14:00.860 --> 01:14:06.860
And he would come to my shop and he would say, could I use your oscilloscope?
01:14:06.860 --> 01:14:09.860
And he would pull up the antenna.
01:14:09.860 --> 01:14:12.860
And he would plug it in and he'd turn it on and he'd wait a few minutes.
01:14:12.860 --> 01:14:17.860
He'd turn this on and then he'd take the scope with a loop around it, right?
01:14:17.860 --> 01:14:22.860
He'd put a loop away around this and take the scope and there you'd see the wave on the scope.
01:14:22.860 --> 01:14:24.860
He'd say, working fine.
01:14:24.860 --> 01:14:29.860
Then he'd put the antenna down, just like this.
01:14:29.860 --> 01:14:34.860
Shut the machine off and look at me and go, see you tonight for coffee.
01:14:34.860 --> 01:14:37.860
And he'd be gone.
01:14:37.860 --> 01:14:41.860
He actually was...
01:14:41.860 --> 01:14:43.860
He was not a bad guy.
01:14:43.860 --> 01:14:45.860
In other words, he was not bad to me.
01:14:45.860 --> 01:14:47.860
Okay.
01:14:47.860 --> 01:14:57.860
You know, and we had a lot to talk about at night and we used to talk about all this and other machines that he had seen and done and things like that.
01:14:57.860 --> 01:15:03.860
So he was quite knowledgeable when it came to cycles, you know.
01:15:03.860 --> 01:15:04.860
Yeah.
01:15:04.860 --> 01:15:11.860
And he based everything on these cycles that was going on throughout history.
01:15:11.860 --> 01:15:14.860
So he was into that pretty well.
01:15:14.860 --> 01:15:24.860
But something here in all this machinery stopped John Sijaka from doing this any longer.
01:15:24.860 --> 01:15:25.860
Right.
01:15:25.860 --> 01:15:27.860
And I don't know what that was.
01:15:27.860 --> 01:15:29.860
And I never asked him.
01:15:29.860 --> 01:15:34.860
I just know that he kept the machine till the day he died.
01:15:34.860 --> 01:15:39.860
And then mysteriously when he died...
01:15:39.860 --> 01:15:40.860
Yeah.
01:15:40.860 --> 01:15:42.860
Who knows where the machines went.
01:15:42.860 --> 01:15:44.860
We do know Ronnie got some, right?
01:15:44.860 --> 01:15:45.860
Yeah.
01:15:45.860 --> 01:15:47.860
But where are the rest?
01:15:47.860 --> 01:15:48.860
Yeah.
01:15:48.860 --> 01:15:50.860
So that's the real question.
01:15:50.860 --> 01:16:00.860
What I find very surprising is how long did his schoolhouse stand, Tony?
01:16:00.860 --> 01:16:02.860
It had been there for 50 years or so.
01:16:02.860 --> 01:16:03.860
Yeah.
01:16:03.860 --> 01:16:04.860
And then one day...
01:16:04.860 --> 01:16:06.860
It was built out of solid brick too.
01:16:06.860 --> 01:16:07.860
Yeah.
01:16:07.860 --> 01:16:08.860
Yeah.
01:16:12.860 --> 01:16:29.860
Well, this was originally a schoolhouse for the area, wasn't it?
01:16:29.860 --> 01:16:30.860
It was.
01:16:30.860 --> 01:16:33.860
It was built in 1916.
01:16:33.860 --> 01:16:40.860
But I think when I went to school here, there were 54 students.
01:16:40.860 --> 01:16:43.860
That was the total amount of students in the class.
01:16:43.860 --> 01:16:47.860
But it had, during its history, they had a senior high.
01:16:47.860 --> 01:16:52.860
It was kindergarten through 12th grade.
01:16:52.860 --> 01:16:56.860
So it just outlasted the population.
01:16:56.860 --> 01:17:00.860
The population grew up and got bigger.
01:17:00.860 --> 01:17:05.860
And they didn't need the school any longer.
01:17:05.860 --> 01:17:11.860
Our family purchased it just to maintain the school for a while, which they did.
01:17:11.860 --> 01:17:17.860
I put personal equipment in there and so did Johnny.
01:17:17.860 --> 01:17:22.860
And there are records of the old companies here.
01:17:22.860 --> 01:17:32.860
So after John Sejka died, what was left in California went and was stored here, and now you've removed the...
01:17:32.860 --> 01:17:34.860
Well, whatever I could get.
01:17:34.860 --> 01:17:42.860
I brought a U-Haul from California back here.
01:17:42.860 --> 01:17:47.860
One day out of the blue, Ronnie was gone.
01:17:47.860 --> 01:17:50.860
Just within the last five or ten years.
01:17:50.860 --> 01:17:51.860
Yeah.
01:17:51.860 --> 01:17:52.860
Ronnie was gone.
01:17:52.860 --> 01:17:53.860
Yeah.
01:17:53.860 --> 01:17:58.860
And a tornado came out of nowhere and destroyed the schoolhouse.
01:17:58.860 --> 01:18:00.860
Now, why?
01:18:00.860 --> 01:18:02.860
Which just stood in the middle of nowhere.
01:18:02.860 --> 01:18:03.860
Right.
01:18:03.860 --> 01:18:04.860
Yeah.
01:18:04.860 --> 01:18:11.860
Now what was actually buried at that schoolhouse or in that schoolhouse that nobody knew about?
01:18:11.860 --> 01:18:14.860
And it just picked, right, Johnny?
01:18:14.860 --> 01:18:16.860
It just picked the one building.
01:18:16.860 --> 01:18:17.860
Yeah.
01:18:17.860 --> 01:18:18.860
And where?
01:18:18.860 --> 01:18:19.860
Where Iowa?
01:18:19.860 --> 01:18:22.860
Yeah, where Iowa? What's there?
01:18:22.860 --> 01:18:23.860
Nothing.
01:18:23.860 --> 01:18:24.860
Yeah.
01:18:24.860 --> 01:18:29.860
But anyway, that's what I wanted to tell everybody.
01:18:29.860 --> 01:18:46.860
You know, I basically wanted to give them an explanation of how the machine operated and what it looked like and what could be rebuilt when it looks like this and how it oscillates.
01:18:46.860 --> 01:18:50.860
And if you'll give me a few seconds here, I'll bring out a plate and show it to you.
01:18:50.860 --> 01:18:52.860
I have a question.
01:18:52.860 --> 01:19:00.860
Back in, I think, in the 50s, there were some engineers, those scientists, I think they went to Stanford.
01:19:00.860 --> 01:19:01.860
Yeah, U-CaCO.
01:19:01.860 --> 01:19:04.860
They invented a machine kind of like this.
01:19:04.860 --> 01:19:06.860
What's the relationship?
01:19:06.860 --> 01:19:14.860
And I think in the Sejaka files, there's a circuit diagram for the U-CaCO machine, which is what it was called.
01:19:14.860 --> 01:19:15.860
Right.
01:19:15.860 --> 01:19:19.860
In the Sejaka files, is this related to the U-CaCO machine?
01:19:19.860 --> 01:19:22.860
Oh, yeah.
01:19:22.860 --> 01:19:32.860
The U-CaCO, actually very, very, very simple compared to John Sejaka's machine.
01:19:32.860 --> 01:19:38.860
John's machine has five stages in it, you know, and a super gain.
01:19:38.860 --> 01:19:49.860
And each one of John's stages is tuned to a specific biological form that he was dealing with.
01:19:49.860 --> 01:19:58.860
You know, so it encompasses five stages, all giving different frequencies and causing these.
01:19:58.860 --> 01:20:02.860
Let me go through this one more time for everybody.
01:20:02.860 --> 01:20:09.860
So first, let's put the diagram of the U-CaCO machine so you can see the similarity.
01:20:09.860 --> 01:20:10.860
Okay.
01:20:10.860 --> 01:20:11.860
All right.
01:20:11.860 --> 01:20:16.860
So once again, we have our tube.
01:20:16.860 --> 01:20:26.860
And basically, this tube, the way it's hooked up, is actually an RF amplifier tube.
01:20:26.860 --> 01:20:37.860
But the way it's hooked up with its, you know, grid to its cathode makes it no different than an audio tube.
01:20:37.860 --> 01:20:46.860
Because a 6L6 is basically would be the same tube without the gain.
01:20:46.860 --> 01:20:47.860
All right.
01:20:47.860 --> 01:20:57.860
So diagram-wise, to me, the tube is, the way that it's hooked up, it's no more than an amplifier tube.
01:20:57.860 --> 01:21:08.860
So once again, this would be the U-CaCO.
01:21:08.860 --> 01:21:11.860
Witnesses on the plate.
01:21:11.860 --> 01:21:19.860
And this stage then would be coupled to the next stage like this.
01:21:19.860 --> 01:21:23.860
Same arrangement.
01:21:23.860 --> 01:21:26.860
Okay.
01:21:26.860 --> 01:21:31.860
And basically, this is the circuit minus the values.
01:21:31.860 --> 01:21:38.860
So I could actually put values in here, but it's in the Sejka files.
01:21:38.860 --> 01:21:47.860
You know, I've already given this information one time in the files that we released, Tony.
01:21:47.860 --> 01:21:55.860
But this is basically the U-CaCO.
01:21:55.860 --> 01:22:21.860
And it was a very simple machine, and these two guys are the first ones to do the experiments with this machine.
01:22:21.860 --> 01:22:27.860
Everything that I researched, because I did ask John Sejka about that one time, I said, well, it's this machine here.
01:22:27.860 --> 01:22:31.860
He says, no, it's not. My machine is totally different.
01:22:31.860 --> 01:22:36.860
I said, yeah, but I got the same wave shape as you got. He says, well, you're lucky.
01:22:36.860 --> 01:22:41.860
You know, you're lucky. You're a little bit smarter than the rest of them.
01:22:41.860 --> 01:22:51.860
You know, but John probably didn't balance.
01:22:51.860 --> 01:22:56.860
He probably put a tube in and said, okay, I like that.
01:22:56.860 --> 01:23:03.860
And he kept playing with these values until he got everything the way he wanted it.
01:23:03.860 --> 01:23:23.860
So basically, the U-CaCO, if we have a fundamental, once again, if we have this fundamental frequency that's being modulated inside like this.
01:23:23.860 --> 01:23:38.860
So these frequencies create this band, and then the next frequency creates this band, and this band keeps going like this, all the way out.
01:23:38.860 --> 01:23:42.860
Well, these are side bands of the frequencies.
01:23:42.860 --> 01:23:49.860
In other words, we're hitting certain frequencies by how many frequencies we modulate here.
01:23:49.860 --> 01:23:59.860
All right, but it's clipped. It's not, it's so that it causes these side bands.
01:23:59.860 --> 01:24:02.860
I was wondering why they didn't go so high. They kept getting smaller.
01:24:02.860 --> 01:24:10.860
No, they keep getting smaller because, yeah, well, they're higher. You know, the frequencies are different.
01:24:10.860 --> 01:24:12.860
They're lower on one side and higher on the other side.
01:24:12.860 --> 01:24:16.860
So you limit the gain on the primary frequency, which forces the harmonics.
01:24:16.860 --> 01:24:21.860
So you force this one to do an oscillation with many frequencies in it.
01:24:21.860 --> 01:24:26.860
And then it creates these side bands.
01:24:26.860 --> 01:24:27.860
Okay.
01:24:27.860 --> 01:24:32.860
You know, it sort of works like ham radio in a way, but audio.
01:24:32.860 --> 01:24:33.860
Okay.
01:24:33.860 --> 01:24:43.860
And so all these frequencies end up being in here at different frequency rates.
01:24:43.860 --> 01:24:53.860
So let's say this is 500, and this one's 350, and this one, now watch what's happening.
01:24:53.860 --> 01:24:58.860
150, and this one, I'm going down.
01:24:58.860 --> 01:25:02.860
Okay, and this is 50, and this is 10.
01:25:02.860 --> 01:25:03.860
51.
01:25:03.860 --> 01:25:05.860
50 cycles, see?
01:25:05.860 --> 01:25:06.860
Okay.
01:25:06.860 --> 01:25:07.860
50 hertz, see?
01:25:07.860 --> 01:25:08.860
Yeah.
01:25:08.860 --> 01:25:12.860
And then this one's going from 500 to 1,000, right?
01:25:12.860 --> 01:25:16.860
And this is, you know, 2,000.
01:25:16.860 --> 01:25:17.860
Okay.
01:25:17.860 --> 01:25:18.860
See?
01:25:18.860 --> 01:25:24.860
4,000, 5,000, and 10,000, right?
01:25:24.860 --> 01:25:25.860
Yeah.
01:25:25.860 --> 01:25:27.860
It'll be way out here.
01:25:27.860 --> 01:25:31.860
You know, 20th harmonic or whatever you want to call this, the harmonics out.
01:25:31.860 --> 01:25:33.860
Right.
01:25:33.860 --> 01:25:44.860
So now, in the master wave, and that's the reason for no filtering in these machines.
01:25:44.860 --> 01:25:45.860
Okay.
01:25:45.860 --> 01:25:52.860
Because it rides the 60 cycle wave.
01:25:52.860 --> 01:25:54.860
Okay.
01:25:54.860 --> 01:25:57.860
In other words, it's a low frequency transmitter.
01:25:57.860 --> 01:25:59.860
As is the other one.
01:25:59.860 --> 01:26:13.860
And that's why John Sijeka would say, I went to the area with an AM radio, and I could hear the buzz.
01:26:13.860 --> 01:26:15.860
Because it's out there.
01:26:15.860 --> 01:26:17.860
It's out there at that area.
01:26:17.860 --> 01:26:19.860
So this is the Yukako machine, right?
01:26:19.860 --> 01:26:21.860
Yeah, but they work fundamentally the same.
01:26:21.860 --> 01:26:23.860
Okay, okay.
01:26:23.860 --> 01:26:32.860
Sijeka wanted five stages because he wanted more bands in here.
01:26:32.860 --> 01:26:34.860
He wanted to cover everything.
01:26:34.860 --> 01:26:35.860
Okay.
01:26:35.860 --> 01:26:52.860
And he worked on that and worked on that and worked on that and worked on that until he got the perfect match and the perfect wave that he wanted, which was something like a feather.
01:26:52.860 --> 01:26:55.860
So it basically looks like this.
01:26:55.860 --> 01:26:56.860
Hmm.
01:26:56.860 --> 01:26:59.860
Right?
01:26:59.860 --> 01:27:07.860
And then you can see in here that this is, you know, the 60 hertz.
01:27:07.860 --> 01:27:08.860
Okay.
01:27:08.860 --> 01:27:10.860
Right here.
01:27:10.860 --> 01:27:14.860
And everything is riding in here.
01:27:14.860 --> 01:27:19.860
So I wouldn't really call it an RF transmitter.
01:27:19.860 --> 01:27:20.860
Mm-hmm.
01:27:20.860 --> 01:27:26.860
I'd call it like a subharmonic or ultrasonic transmitter.
01:27:26.860 --> 01:27:34.860
You know, where it's working on the biological system, because you've got to take this into consideration.
01:27:34.860 --> 01:27:37.860
We're biological.
01:27:37.860 --> 01:27:45.860
And the earth is at a certain frequency, and it goes high up in one, you know, depending on where it is.
01:27:45.860 --> 01:27:46.860
Mm-hmm.
01:27:46.860 --> 01:27:54.860
In other words, you go to sleep at this one, you wake up at this one, you get excited, and there's this frequency that your brain's doing.
01:27:54.860 --> 01:27:55.860
Mm-hmm.
01:27:55.860 --> 01:28:02.860
So John's working on a biological type, cycles.
01:28:02.860 --> 01:28:11.860
And he turned everything in cycles, so you have to think to yourself for a minute, okay, what was he doing?
01:28:11.860 --> 01:28:12.860
Right.
01:28:12.860 --> 01:28:18.860
Well, he wanted to work on that biological system, say the mill foil.
01:28:18.860 --> 01:28:25.860
And so he needed the frequency range in this lower range that would hit that.
01:28:25.860 --> 01:28:26.860
Yeah.
01:28:26.860 --> 01:28:29.860
And then it would work on it, because that would be what would be on the witness.