1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,680 Music 2 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:33,960 You also, there's interesting things, like when you go through the ritual, if people 3 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:40,840 know about different esoteric practices where you cannot have metals on you, gold, silver, 4 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:47,440 et cetera, because they will interfere with the energy, you also take those items off during 5 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:55,480 Masonic rituals. Rings, coins, et cetera, are temporarily placed aside. 6 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,880 That is interesting, because I would imagine the gold would have been a conductor for that 7 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,820 energy, not something that they would want to put aside. 8 00:01:03,140 --> 00:01:04,420 Yeah, but what energy? 9 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,380 And we are back with Joaquin, our Masonic mystery man. 10 00:01:10,380 --> 00:01:12,580 Thanks so much for being with us, Joaquin. 11 00:01:12,700 --> 00:01:15,120 Yeah, this has been an amazing interview so far. 12 00:01:15,180 --> 00:01:16,340 Thank you. It's been a journey. 13 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,520 So, you know, some people say that the layout of D.C. is Masonic itself. 14 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:28,580 True. The layout of the laundry room is similar to the actual layout of D.C. itself. 15 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:37,300 Specifically, the relationship between the Washington Monument and the White House is the same as 16 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:44,500 a relationship between an altar in Masonry and the Master of the Lodge, typically known as 17 00:01:44,500 --> 00:01:50,740 the Master in the East. So that relationship in terms of physical aspect and distance is similar. 18 00:01:50,740 --> 00:01:58,440 Even Judges' gavels, the shape and character of those, heavily Masonic as well. 19 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:06,540 The fact that the Judge sits above you, in fact, in use in Masonic lodges as well, with the gavel. 20 00:02:06,540 --> 00:02:15,400 That's how the Master of the Lodge brings the Lodge to order with the gavel from his elevated position. 21 00:02:15,980 --> 00:02:17,120 There's all kinds of other things. 22 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,760 You know, they do have guards. 23 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:24,980 During Masonry, when it's in session, they have a person who's armed at the door. 24 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:31,160 I think some of them carry a firearm in modern times, but they actually have, at least in 25 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,260 my Lodge, they had the old regalia on, so they actually carry a really cool medieval sword. 26 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:42,100 So they're literally guarding the door with the sword to prevent, as they call it, cowans 27 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:46,280 and eavesdroppers from hearing the business conducted in a Masonic. 28 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,880 So they're going to cut their ears off? 29 00:02:47,980 --> 00:02:49,500 They're going to do something. 30 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:55,940 And again, you know, this is all, it's so funny to think about, because if you really 31 00:02:55,940 --> 00:03:02,420 get in the mental image, it's almost like this cartoon world, but these are very real 32 00:03:02,420 --> 00:03:06,680 people with a lot of power in society. 33 00:03:06,940 --> 00:03:12,380 You'd think it's something that you might play when you're like in a high school play 34 00:03:12,380 --> 00:03:17,760 or something, you know, but this really does go down like this in the Masonic Lodge. 35 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,160 It's a fascinating pageantry. 36 00:03:20,340 --> 00:03:24,860 You know, some people are drawn to this kind of symbolism, this kind of rank. 37 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:29,200 You know, people are attracted to the military and certain religious ceremonies for the same 38 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:29,560 reason. 39 00:03:29,980 --> 00:03:36,700 It does have a very almost comfortable feeling when you're going through it. 40 00:03:36,700 --> 00:03:46,540 Some aspects are, you know, questionable, to say the least, from a deeper esoteric perspective. 41 00:03:47,260 --> 00:03:53,080 But they tell you in Masonry that nothing you will do or say or obligate yourself to in 42 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:59,480 Masonry, at least in Blue Lodge Masonry, will interfere with the duty to whatever God or 43 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,800 higher being you believe in. 44 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:09,200 And so that's comforting, and that's one reason I'm still willing to remain in Masonry, because 45 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:16,980 I do believe that it's, even though it touches on these spiritual things, but Blue Lodge Masonry 46 00:04:16,980 --> 00:04:26,580 itself is kind of like the light version of real Hermeticism or real magical occult things. 47 00:04:26,580 --> 00:04:33,140 It alludes to it by means of signs and symbols, and you can almost think of it, and some scholars 48 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:40,360 do think of it as a kind of training ground for people who will go on to those things, you 49 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:48,400 know, training them in loyalty, in obedience to a system, to a hierarchy, and in giving them 50 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,040 some of the symbols. 51 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:56,420 Like an inner court and an outer court. 52 00:04:56,420 --> 00:05:03,260 And since I've chosen not to go into the inner court, I can't really comment on that. 53 00:05:03,260 --> 00:05:09,040 Who controls the British crown? 54 00:05:09,260 --> 00:05:11,060 Who keeps the metric system down? 55 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:12,200 We do. 56 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,320 We do. 57 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,140 Who leaves Atlantis off the maps? 58 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:19,240 Who keeps the Martians under wraps? 59 00:05:19,380 --> 00:05:20,360 We do. 60 00:05:20,860 --> 00:05:21,860 We do. 61 00:05:22,860 --> 00:05:27,060 Who holds back the electric car? 62 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:31,040 Who makes the Doonberg a star? 63 00:05:31,300 --> 00:05:32,560 We do. 64 00:05:33,260 --> 00:05:34,460 We do. 65 00:05:35,340 --> 00:05:37,360 Who rocks cavefish of their sight? 66 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,380 Who rigs every Oscar night? 67 00:05:39,620 --> 00:05:41,120 We do. 68 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,000 We do. 69 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,520 But I will say, and I didn't know this at the time, because this was years before a lot 70 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,020 of this information had come out, at least I had never heard of it, and there was no 71 00:05:55,020 --> 00:05:55,900 edge of wonder back then. 72 00:05:56,280 --> 00:06:01,320 I was invited to a party while I was a mason by one of the other brothers. 73 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,180 He said, oh yeah, we have these parties on the weekend, and this is going to sound like 74 00:06:05,180 --> 00:06:08,660 I'm making it up, but these are the exact words he said. 75 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,800 He said, yeah, it's like a masquerade. 76 00:06:12,060 --> 00:06:13,760 Everybody wears a costume. 77 00:06:13,940 --> 00:06:14,680 You'll love it. 78 00:06:14,740 --> 00:06:16,800 We have a house right across from the Clintons. 79 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,740 That's in the Hamptons. 80 00:06:17,740 --> 00:06:18,860 Put your bathroom at it. 81 00:06:19,260 --> 00:06:19,920 That's what he said. 82 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,260 He said, our house is right across the street from the Clintons in the Hamptons. 83 00:06:23,820 --> 00:06:25,220 And I said, oh, pretty Tony, huh? 84 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,760 But at that time I didn't drink. 85 00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:27,640 I still don't drink. 86 00:06:28,020 --> 00:06:28,920 So I just didn't feel like going. 87 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,880 I'm like, ah, you know, I'll pass. 88 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:31,620 You know, no thanks. 89 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,840 Who knows what happens at those parties? 90 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:41,960 I mean, from everything that we've researched, the masquerade parties are where the sexual 91 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,280 stuff happens. 92 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,640 And I've watched Eyes Wide Shut. 93 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:46,540 I know what you're saying. 94 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:52,700 Those robes in Eyes Wide Shut are extremely similar to Rosicrucian robes, the black robes 95 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:53,180 that they wear. 96 00:06:53,860 --> 00:06:57,780 I can't comment on the rest because I haven't experienced it, but, you know, he did say, 97 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,080 ah, we're right across the street from the Clintons, and that was like, that was like 98 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,880 a come on, like, hey, these are the people you'll be socializing with, so who knows, maybe 99 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,380 I'd have met Jeffrey Epstein. 100 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Oh, dear Lord. 101 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:13,060 Thankfully, I ducked that, ducked that bullet. 102 00:07:13,060 --> 00:07:24,360 But Masonry is not, but is tangentially related to a lot of stuff in higher society, for better 103 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:24,720 or worse. 104 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:30,400 You know, I've met some lovely people in Masonry, some genuine people that I would call brother, 105 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:37,040 you know, and they are really kind, excellent people, near as I can figure of them. 106 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,100 I'm not going to defame Masonry here. 107 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:45,760 I'm not going to paint with too broad a brush because I truly don't believe that everyone 108 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:53,280 goes to these things whatsoever actually happens at them, nor does everyone go in for the kind 109 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,280 of mystical side or occult side of Masonry. 110 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,440 You know, some people are just kind of there because maybe their family was there. 111 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:06,120 You know, some of these people's family last name, they've been Masons for generation after 112 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,520 generation. 113 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:11,680 As talks that are given in Masonry show, they will highlight a certain brother who's been 114 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:18,140 with the lodge since his grandparents came here from the old world, since like the 1600s. 115 00:08:18,140 --> 00:08:23,400 So, there's this fascinating history, and it's not all dark. 116 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:28,820 Otherwise, I think great people like George Washington would have never associated themselves 117 00:08:28,820 --> 00:08:29,240 with it. 118 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:39,240 But something is or has crept in over the years, and there are definitely some dark corners of 119 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,220 Masonry, if you want. 120 00:08:41,220 --> 00:08:44,220 You know, there's something called Black Lodge Masonry. 121 00:08:44,340 --> 00:08:46,000 You tell me what that is. 122 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,060 It was barely explained to me what it is. 123 00:08:48,140 --> 00:08:50,680 I said, oh, you may know at the higher degrees. 124 00:08:51,220 --> 00:08:51,760 You know, whatever. 125 00:08:52,620 --> 00:08:53,100 Whatsoever. 126 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,300 Somebody described that there's a room. 127 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,700 This was mind-blowing. 128 00:08:56,700 --> 00:09:02,300 This was not somebody that I actually met in Masonry, but someone I met in a different 129 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:03,540 social circle. 130 00:09:03,980 --> 00:09:08,360 And they said they'd seen this, but I didn't know this person really well, so who's to say 131 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,620 the veracity of this information? 132 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:16,220 But they said, and this is going to sound super high level to people, but she, actually, 133 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,240 she was not a Mason, but somehow knew about it. 134 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:28,580 She said there's a room where future events are on the wall of this room in what amounts 135 00:09:28,580 --> 00:09:36,240 to, like, poster format, like movie posters, like this event, that event, this event. 136 00:09:36,580 --> 00:09:41,380 Not unlike maybe, I don't know, some of the artwork in Epstein's house, right, where you 137 00:09:41,380 --> 00:09:43,640 have Bill Clinton in a dress. 138 00:09:43,940 --> 00:09:44,340 Right. 139 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:44,860 Sorry. 140 00:09:44,860 --> 00:09:52,520 Hopefully not in that room, but, you know, they just said it was, like, as if, you know, 141 00:09:52,820 --> 00:09:59,020 these things are just scenes from the future that someone has printed out with a laser printer 142 00:09:59,020 --> 00:10:02,700 or something and put on the wall of this room. 143 00:10:02,780 --> 00:10:04,480 Were these, like, drawings, or were they, like, beautiful? 144 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,400 I didn't see them. 145 00:10:05,780 --> 00:10:10,020 I didn't see them, and this person is, like, you know, a few degrees removed from me, so 146 00:10:10,020 --> 00:10:12,900 I can in no way vouch for the veracity of this information. 147 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:19,080 But she claims that there's this room, and it has a table in it, and it's kind of like 148 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,740 a circular room, and on the walls are things that's going to happen in the future. 149 00:10:23,740 --> 00:10:27,480 So it's not that far-fetched, because, I mean, if they're doing occult stuff and rituals, 150 00:10:27,820 --> 00:10:32,780 and then, you know, if someone's going into whatever, like, seeing the future, you know, 151 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,220 and then telling others about it, and they're either, like, painting it or whatever, you know, 152 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:41,620 that's one aspect, unless there's some kind of, like, technology, like, project looking glass 153 00:10:41,620 --> 00:10:45,120 that they're using to actually see directly into the future. 154 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,000 Yeah, all of the above is possible, in my opinion. 155 00:10:49,140 --> 00:10:54,600 But, again, you know, in aggregate, all these little fascinating bits of information are entirely fascinating to me. 156 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:58,940 Wow, this really is something here, but I don't know what it is. 157 00:10:58,940 --> 00:11:05,060 Now, this next story I'm going to tell you is a personal story, which I can definitely vouch for the veracity of the person. 158 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,560 So without giving too much away, there's a person in my business circle. 159 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:17,480 Not, again, a woman, not directly through Masonry, but through a friend in Masonry. 160 00:11:17,580 --> 00:11:19,760 We became good friends over the years. 161 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:26,640 Her daughter, she was married to a wealthy, I believe, Saudi of some kind. 162 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,580 She has a ton of money. 163 00:11:27,780 --> 00:11:33,040 She has a big house on the upper west side of Manhattan, almost like a whole floor of an apartment building. 164 00:11:33,540 --> 00:11:35,980 She's a wealthy socialite woman. 165 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,080 I'm not going to say her name. 166 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:49,060 But her daughter, before Prince William was married, her daughter briefly dated Prince William. 167 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,400 Okay, so that gives you some idea of what social circle she's in. 168 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,300 He's a reptilian, isn't he? 169 00:11:53,880 --> 00:12:03,160 During this courtship, which lasted several months, not too long, but not too short period, and this is fairly sad, 170 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:08,720 but this daughter of hers developed a mental illness. 171 00:12:09,540 --> 00:12:11,800 She actually has a letter, which she shared with me. 172 00:12:11,860 --> 00:12:14,900 I didn't see the letter, but I believe her about this letter. 173 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:23,340 Prince William basically wrote a personal letter apologizing to her and her mother for having to break off the relationship. 174 00:12:23,340 --> 00:12:27,120 He said, you know, I'm sorry, I do have feelings for your daughter, 175 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:36,580 but as you can imagine, someone of my personage cannot really be seen in public with someone who has a mental illness. 176 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,560 So I'm sorry, I'm going to have to, you know, basically discontinue this relationship. 177 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:47,360 You know, and so they were, you know, kind of that close to being Kate Middleton. 178 00:12:47,360 --> 00:13:00,780 But, uh, so, but again, with the mental illness, this whole thing, it basically onset, this is the really, if you want to get kind of spooky with it. 179 00:13:00,940 --> 00:13:01,100 Yeah. 180 00:13:01,580 --> 00:13:06,140 It basically onset during their courtship. 181 00:13:06,420 --> 00:13:07,460 That's what I was going to ask. 182 00:13:07,460 --> 00:13:08,120 What do you mean by that? 183 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,280 She didn't have any mental illness before she started dating her. 184 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,820 There's no prior evidence of mental illness. 185 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:28,080 And though she did not reveal any details to me, her husband also died at some point after what she told me making some kind of financial deal. 186 00:13:28,380 --> 00:13:29,580 He lost a bunch of money. 187 00:13:30,260 --> 00:13:30,960 He died. 188 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,480 She's had a lot of tragedy in her family, the poor woman. 189 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:42,740 Um, but now, and I don't know what she knows, but I know that now, and I've actually helped her with this, uh, project a little bit. 190 00:13:43,340 --> 00:13:51,400 Uh, she runs now, with her money, a, uh, a saving children charity. 191 00:13:53,420 --> 00:13:53,980 So. 192 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:55,440 Wow. 193 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,940 Those are some dots. 194 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:58,580 Yeah. 195 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,040 In space, you could say. 196 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,960 Uh, and I know this woman personally. 197 00:14:04,100 --> 00:14:08,360 This is not, uh, you know, this is what she told me personally, you know. 198 00:14:09,020 --> 00:14:09,460 Um. 199 00:14:09,780 --> 00:14:10,140 Wow. 200 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,480 So, you know, um, there are things. 201 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:17,200 There are things and there are things. 202 00:14:17,780 --> 00:14:18,660 There are things. 203 00:14:19,780 --> 00:14:24,700 You know, so these are, these are some of the, you know, kind of life adventures I've had, I guess. 204 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:25,940 But, uh. 205 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,860 And you've, I mean, is there, who's like some of the bigger people that anybody, 206 00:14:30,860 --> 00:14:32,240 that you've actually met? 207 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,280 I don't know if you want to talk. 208 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:34,540 Oh. 209 00:14:34,740 --> 00:14:35,380 Well, okay. 210 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,060 So, I actually don't know for sure who the person was. 211 00:14:39,140 --> 00:14:45,420 But there was one time when I was in the lodge, and people kind of were, you know, getting excited 212 00:14:45,420 --> 00:14:51,380 or hushed because they were going to have, uh, what was described as, uh, one of the Rockefellers 213 00:14:51,380 --> 00:14:52,660 visit the lodge. 214 00:14:52,940 --> 00:14:56,320 Um, they're, you know, notorious for being reclusive. 215 00:14:57,060 --> 00:15:00,080 I still to this day don't know who this person was. 216 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,300 They were very elderly. 217 00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:06,680 Uh, Ben told me from my description, could have been David Rockefeller. 218 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:07,520 I'm not sure. 219 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,040 Uh, they were very elderly at this time. 220 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:13,280 They said, oh, one of the Rockefellers is coming. 221 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:16,800 And his handlers were pushing him on a wheelchair. 222 00:15:17,540 --> 00:15:20,400 And he looked very ill. 223 00:15:20,820 --> 00:15:22,960 He looked about to die, I would say. 224 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:25,180 He looked about to die. 225 00:15:25,180 --> 00:15:35,380 And, uh, this is going to sound like I'm making it up, but I really did feel, um, this, upon 226 00:15:35,380 --> 00:15:40,000 seeing him, I thought, man, you know, I, I don't know what is wrong with this person. 227 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,200 Like, I, I really felt, uh, something I, I would say I'd never experienced on meeting 228 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,780 another person on this earth. 229 00:15:47,940 --> 00:15:54,220 It was very cold, his, his overall energy, uh, you know, like an aura or what have you. 230 00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:58,840 Of course, I couldn't see it per se, but, you know, it just, I just felt cold. 231 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:06,040 Like the whole room, in fact, felt like it had gotten a few degrees colder, which I almost 232 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,500 would doubt myself, except I've heard other people say this about. 233 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:15,460 And he also had, he also had something which I can only describe as being straight out of 234 00:16:15,460 --> 00:16:16,200 a movie. 235 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,840 Uh, if you ever see like Nosferatu or these other kind of vampire movies, and, you know, 236 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:27,140 people are going to say this, well, this is really incredible, but really and truly, he 237 00:16:27,140 --> 00:16:34,880 had a vein on the side of his neck that was extremely enlarged and also a little bit translucent. 238 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:40,880 It was like a red vein in otherwise almost albino, uh, skin. 239 00:16:41,140 --> 00:16:41,540 Weird. 240 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:42,680 That's crazy. 241 00:16:43,140 --> 00:16:46,860 And he, you know, I, I was immediately a little bit frightened of him. 242 00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:47,940 I would be too. 243 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,960 As I said, as I said, you know, the room felt colder. 244 00:16:51,860 --> 00:16:56,180 Um, I was maybe, I don't know, 20 feet away from him, something like this. 245 00:16:56,220 --> 00:16:58,300 In the room, I was on one side, he was on another. 246 00:16:59,020 --> 00:17:00,180 The lodge was in session. 247 00:17:00,380 --> 00:17:01,300 He was just listening. 248 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:02,900 He didn't really say anything. 249 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,340 They were talking about various financial matters, you know, where they're going to invest 250 00:17:07,340 --> 00:17:07,720 money. 251 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,200 You know, this is always a topic of formal Masonic meetings is what they're going to 252 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,080 spend the money on. 253 00:17:13,580 --> 00:17:16,840 It's pretty much the, the, the business at hand is, is money. 254 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,320 That's, that's it. 255 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:18,960 Money. 256 00:17:19,620 --> 00:17:22,900 Um, because without politics and religion, you just discuss business, right? 257 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:28,720 So it was just, uh, you know, kind of like one for the record books experience, you know, 258 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,640 just to, I can't describe it. 259 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:33,680 It was fairly unpleasant. 260 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:41,160 Uh, you could say, anyways, was introduced as such without the first name being given. 261 00:17:41,940 --> 00:17:45,040 How did everybody else in the room kind of respond to him? 262 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:47,140 Did they have the kind of same feeling that you had? 263 00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:48,700 With almost no response. 264 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:49,340 Okay. 265 00:17:49,740 --> 00:17:53,440 There was almost no, how do I describe it? 266 00:17:53,460 --> 00:17:57,300 It's like everyone is transfixed on the business at hand. 267 00:17:57,300 --> 00:18:02,680 Uh, and so you, you would give a nod to the guest because he arrived late. 268 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,960 He arrived like partway through an ongoing meeting. 269 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:11,780 So people, I think, gave him a nod of recognition if they knew him or what have you, but there 270 00:18:11,780 --> 00:18:17,100 was no formal exchange and maybe that's how he liked it. 271 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,300 He appeared to be a very quiet person. 272 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:25,480 Very introspective, if you can call it that, you know, uh, absorbed in his own thoughts, 273 00:18:25,820 --> 00:18:27,220 uh, for lack of a better description. 274 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:29,800 Almost, almost like he wasn't really there. 275 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:35,480 Just was there, but, you know, and people, oh, that's so-and-so, you know, important. 276 00:18:35,660 --> 00:18:38,260 But then they just carried on with their business, you know. 277 00:18:38,260 --> 00:18:39,200 Hey, the zombie feller. 278 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,380 Um, you know, but it was, you know, it's like a surreal kind of thing, you know, to have, 279 00:18:44,380 --> 00:18:50,100 uh, because it was so cold, I, I can't impress enough, it was really like being in a cold 280 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:56,200 room, like he, him coming into the room, uh, it sounds like an exaggeration, but it really 281 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:04,820 felt colder, physically colder, not just spiritually, I feel he's not in such a good way colder, but 282 00:19:04,820 --> 00:19:10,080 like the temperature has dropped in this room colder, um, that kind of feeling. 283 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:19,380 What, why is it that, from your perspective, that the Masons view bloodline to be so important? 284 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:26,620 Because from all of our research, it all seems to go back to these, um, these fallen angel 285 00:19:26,620 --> 00:19:34,320 bloodlines that, where they, these, these bloodline people think that they, they came from these 286 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:41,400 ancient biblical times from somewhere else, and they have, yeah, the fallen, or the, uh, 287 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:47,180 the watchers, like, this kind of thing, so, whatever, what is it, what do you think, from 288 00:19:47,180 --> 00:19:49,020 your experience, that this thing is? 289 00:19:49,260 --> 00:19:57,220 For sure, there are people who regard themselves highly, and see themselves as of fundamental 290 00:19:57,220 --> 00:19:59,680 importance to the functioning of society. 291 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:07,360 You know, they really do, I think, from talking to some of them, see themselves as, as kings 292 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:13,320 among men, or maybe even gods among men, in the sense, not in the direct sense that they 293 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:20,540 would say that in conversation, but how they talk about affairs, as if it's something under 294 00:20:20,540 --> 00:20:27,020 their direction, rather than being something that the rest of us might see from afar or abstractly. 295 00:20:27,020 --> 00:20:32,900 It's their domain to talk about it, and to handle it, and to administrate it, and they 296 00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:36,760 have the money, and the connections, and everything else to do so. 297 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,500 And, you know, they talk about everything from running the, uh, Players Club in Manhattan to 298 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:47,000 the old, uh, 21 Club, I'm not so familiar with this, but you can look that up. 299 00:20:47,140 --> 00:20:54,180 They have stories from this, these people, you know, big shot editors, publishers, uh, among 300 00:20:54,180 --> 00:21:00,000 some of my personal friends and acquaintances there, people who have a lot to say at a, 301 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,540 at a boardroom table, you know. 302 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:07,040 As somebody in one of my business circles once told me, you know, who talks about Ferraris 303 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:07,960 and Lamborghinis? 304 00:21:08,540 --> 00:21:10,560 Poor people, right? 305 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,140 These guys don't care about that kind of thing. 306 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,060 They care about impact and legacy. 307 00:21:17,060 --> 00:21:23,640 They care about what they're able to do in society, and how society will remember them. 308 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,320 Those two things are of primary importance. 309 00:21:27,260 --> 00:21:31,000 Everything else is whatever, you know, it's just some money, right? 310 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,240 These guys have, they have this kind of money. 311 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,540 When you're on that level, and maybe your family has been on that level for many, many 312 00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:43,340 years, as some of these people have, the normal things are not your concern. 313 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:50,300 You've moved on, and you want to deal with the more important things, and whether they 314 00:21:50,300 --> 00:21:56,060 really are in charge, or see themselves as such, or maybe it's the world's biggest case 315 00:21:56,060 --> 00:22:02,320 of megalomania in their own mind that they are really in charge, but they want to be. 316 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,480 They want to hold the levers of power. 317 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:10,180 That's what's, that's what is pleasing to them, you know, and some of them do, I would 318 00:22:10,180 --> 00:22:11,520 say, for sure they do. 319 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:15,300 Is, is this why, like, philanthropy is, like, so important? 320 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:21,000 Philanthropy is one of the main things that masonry uses its money for. 321 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,120 Masonry is a kind of non-profit, or lodges often are registered as non-profit organizations. 322 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,420 Some of them may even be NGOs. 323 00:22:29,620 --> 00:22:31,420 I haven't looked into the legal structure of them. 324 00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:37,660 As they put an enormous amount of philanthropy work, I've even forwarded my own proposals 325 00:22:37,660 --> 00:22:40,540 to them at times of what I think they should donate to. 326 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:47,000 I won't get into that, but, but they donate to certain charities regularly, and they donate 327 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:54,640 the enormous sums of money that they seem to have on hand, probably have had on hand for 328 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,460 a long time. 329 00:22:56,100 --> 00:23:03,540 It's the kind of thing where they'll, they'll drop a couple mil at a lodge meeting, you know, 330 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:09,200 they'll, they'll say a million to this, 12 to this, uh, whatever, you know, um. 331 00:23:09,340 --> 00:23:11,680 Wait, but did you, did you have to pay dues? 332 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,840 Yes, but the dues are trivial. 333 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,140 I think, you know, the dues, depending where you belong, somewhere between 45 and $200 a year, 334 00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:20,740 you know, they're trivial. 335 00:23:20,740 --> 00:23:23,560 The dues are trivial from the actual members. 336 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,260 The money that they have definitely doesn't come from that. 337 00:23:26,380 --> 00:23:32,360 It comes from holdings, some of which seem to actually go back to the Templars. 338 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:40,760 They've had this kind of money under their control, uh, for a long time. 339 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,580 Holy cow. 340 00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:46,800 And the work, if you can call it the work of Masonry, is where the money goes. 341 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:52,920 Uh, they talk about the, the architect, the master of the lodge is the architect, right, 342 00:23:52,980 --> 00:23:54,120 of, of that lodge. 343 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:59,220 Uh, they're even referred to as worshipful master in the ceremony of the lodge. 344 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,420 Interestingly, um, there's, there's masters in four cardinal directions in a lodge. 345 00:24:05,940 --> 00:24:09,820 Some people say the word news comes from north, east, south, west. 346 00:24:09,820 --> 00:24:15,120 Some people say that's been debunked, uh, but I can tell you in a lodge, there's warden 347 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:19,800 in the west, north, south, and the most important in the east. 348 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:25,120 And they each give an update, as it will, in the, in the ceremony of the lodge. 349 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:31,760 They update how their domain of enterprise is going, kind of like you might do at a board 350 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,860 meeting or something, you know, they'll give an update of the affairs under their management 351 00:24:36,860 --> 00:24:41,740 and then regular business is conducted and you keep minutes and there's a secretary and 352 00:24:41,740 --> 00:24:43,700 everything just like a corporate boardroom would have. 353 00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:52,660 Uh, but they, they have this very esoteric form, uh, and everyone does this ritual work 354 00:24:52,660 --> 00:24:54,260 at the beginning of every meeting. 355 00:24:54,260 --> 00:24:58,180 Um, they, they call it as such, they call it ritual work. 356 00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:04,240 And by the sacred parchment, I swear that if I reveal the secrets of the stonecutters, 357 00:25:04,340 --> 00:25:09,340 may my stomach become bloated and my head be plucked of all but three hairs. 358 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,820 Um, I think you should have to take a different oath. 359 00:25:11,940 --> 00:25:13,580 Everyone takes the same oath. 360 00:25:13,580 --> 00:25:16,620 Welcome to the club number 908. 361 00:25:16,620 --> 00:25:22,340 You have joined the sacred order of the stonecutters, who since ancient times have split the rocks 362 00:25:22,340 --> 00:25:25,380 of ignorance that obscure the light of knowledge and truth. 363 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,180 Now let's all get drunk and play ping pong. 364 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,780 Cause he's already kind of heavy, you know. 365 00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:36,840 You know, you, so going back to Jack Dumoulin, cause you know, you're, you're saying how this 366 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,540 money comes from the Templars. 367 00:25:39,740 --> 00:25:41,160 Yeah, really, you know? 368 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,980 So, so, I mean, you, uh, earlier you were talking to us about the Shriner Institute. 369 00:25:47,860 --> 00:25:48,240 Yes. 370 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:48,720 Right? 371 00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:52,180 So there's, there's three major lines in masonry. 372 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:58,920 The York Rite, the Scottish Rite, and the ancient order of the mystic shrine, which some 373 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:06,860 people call the York Rite, the Christian line, and some people call the shrine, the Islamic 374 00:26:06,860 --> 00:26:10,500 line, because it uses Islamic symbolism. 375 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:17,500 They use the curved crescent, the, the knife, the sword, the scimitar, the stars, uh, are 376 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:22,500 all part of the shrine, and what's called Shriners, you sometimes see them in parades with those 377 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:25,900 little hats, also parodied on the Simpsons, right? 378 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,220 They really exist. 379 00:26:27,220 --> 00:26:32,520 One interesting fact about them, they own an incredible amount of hospitals in the U.S. 380 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,880 There are Shriner Hospitals, you can look them up, they're publicly acknowledged as such. 381 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,180 They're Shriner Hospitals. 382 00:26:39,660 --> 00:26:44,040 What they're known for, like you have, you know, whatever, Memorial Sloan Kettering, which 383 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,520 everyone knows from their constant advertising is great at cancer treatment, right? 384 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:54,260 But Shriner Hospitals are really great at burn treatment. 385 00:26:55,260 --> 00:27:00,120 They've researched it extensively, and they're the best in the world at treating burns. 386 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:06,840 And the kind of absurd historical reason that they wanted to be so good at treating burns 387 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:13,820 is because their father figure, Jacques de Molay, was burned alive, so they forever wanted to 388 00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:15,900 heal people of being burned. 389 00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:25,020 Now, in my mind, that's a patently absurd reason for constantly researching how to treat 390 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:30,120 people from burns, but that's the reason they give in masonry, and in public, I believe. 391 00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:35,300 At least in masonry, that's a well-known fact that that's why they indulge in that. 392 00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:41,660 They also operate a fairly high number of children's hospitals, which is interesting. 393 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:45,640 And here's one thing which is going to make you laugh. 394 00:27:47,180 --> 00:27:49,040 Masonry operates this little-known program. 395 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:49,700 It is public. 396 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,840 You can look this up online. 397 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,700 You'll probably find it. 398 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,680 I was able to find it online. 399 00:27:53,680 --> 00:28:01,100 They offer this program to masonic families, mostly, but also to others, in the way that 400 00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:05,760 Girl Scouts might sell Girl Scout cookies or something, or you get those little canes from 401 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,420 donated to the Lions Club or whatever. 402 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:16,960 They have this program, and this is the funniest thing, but it's called the Childhood ID Program, 403 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:24,980 and the acronym is CHIP, and I'm like, who came up with this marketing? 404 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,400 You're fired. 405 00:28:26,740 --> 00:28:30,640 Like, it's the most absurd, you know, like, really? 406 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,320 That's what you're calling this program? 407 00:28:32,420 --> 00:28:33,520 So it's a real program. 408 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:40,960 You can put your child in it, and what it purportedly does is it gives them what they call 409 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:49,240 like additional ID and means of identification should the child ever be kidnapped or abducted, 410 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,560 and I'm thinking to myself. 411 00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:51,560 What the heck, dude? 412 00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:52,600 I'm thinking to myself. 413 00:28:53,180 --> 00:28:56,040 Is there, like, a big need for this? 414 00:28:56,420 --> 00:29:02,040 Like, so anyways, you give your child this extra ID cards and some blood tests and some 415 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:08,240 other stuff so that if your child ends up, I don't know, trafficked somewhere, that they'll 416 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,440 be able to speedily recover them for you. 417 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,100 This is the purpose, stated public purpose of this organization. 418 00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:20,180 This is evidence that crazy stuff is happening to kids right now. 419 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,660 It's peripheral evidence. 420 00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:22,460 This is crazy. 421 00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:26,600 You know, and maybe, you know, given those facts, which I did not know at the time that 422 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,560 I learned about this program, given those facts that have come to light, perhaps this 423 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:37,500 is a way of safeguarding the children of the elite from accidentally falling afoul of 424 00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:40,200 a trafficker, perhaps. 425 00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:46,720 Like, if you're accidentally kidnapped, they'll immediately know that it's some, you know, 426 00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:49,640 high-level Mason's kid and they can't mess with him, right? 427 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,540 So, whatever. 428 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,820 But this is an actual real program that exists and it's public. 429 00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:58,440 You can look it up later and you'll probably laugh. 430 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,880 You know, not laugh too hard, though, because it's very terrible. 431 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,500 But, you know, this program exists to protect children, according to Masonry. 432 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:09,880 And this is directly related to the Masons or the Shriners, particularly? 433 00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:10,920 The Masons directly. 434 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:11,800 The Masons directly. 435 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,160 Yeah. 436 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:19,560 King Solomon, definitely a very important figurehead kind of figure in Masonry. 437 00:30:20,420 --> 00:30:23,760 Esoteric symbols, esoteric symbols, you know, they've been around forever. 438 00:30:24,620 --> 00:30:27,380 I think a lot of the meaning, the actual meaning, has been lost. 439 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,780 Nick Cage basically tells you what will happen to you if you reveal it. 440 00:30:32,780 --> 00:30:34,600 And they're pretty serious about this. 441 00:30:34,820 --> 00:30:45,880 Is they're claiming descent and right to rule based on connection to Jesus or other biblical figures or important historical figures. 442 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:52,200 Even the word foundation, like charity, I think may come from Masonry. 443 00:30:52,200 --> 00:31:11,080 Some people in more esoteric circles say that the real treasure that the Masons, the Templar Masons or the Templars guarded was the actual esoteric teaching or cultivation teachings of Jesus. 444 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:41,060 So, let's look at this.