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This

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very important figure in masonry, Jacques de Molay.

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And he was a major figure in the Crusades, and he's pictured in other places with his

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giant red cross on a white field like many of those crusaders have.

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And interestingly enough, he was killed on Friday the 13th.

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The death of Jacques de Molay is being depicted.

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He's being burned on a pyre.

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Hey guys, welcome back to Edge-O-Wonder with our very incredible guest, Joaquin, the insider

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on the Freemason.

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Who I'm calling the Masonic Mystery Man.

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Welcome back to the show.

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Thanks for having me.

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Thanks, guys.

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Great to be here.

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For those of us outside that are looking in and researching this stuff, right, I'm just

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going to kind of ramble off a couple of things, which is, one is, you know, he was the head

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of the Knights Templar at the time, right?

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And yes, was it King Philip?

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Philip.

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Yeah.

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Just burned this guy and wiped out a bunch of the Masons and stuff like that.

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Because they were accused of Luciferianism.

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Worshipping Baphomet, right?

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Worshipping, you know, some really dark stuff.

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And, you know, the Masons seem to believe that this guy, as you said, is some kind of

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like figure, you know, and they even have little subsects, even young sects of the Masonries

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or of these sister lodges or something where they're, it's almost this strange worship of

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this guy.

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And how on the inside, he's certainly revered, right?

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Is this Luciferian thing even discussed?

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Is the word Illuminati used within these lodges the way that they're used and looked at from

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outside?

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Because the Masons seem to be this group that really, if you were to say, okay, here's the

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Illuminati, you would actually, the first thing you would think of is the Masons in the Masonic

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Lodge, because throughout history, they were tied to the Illuminati, especially at their

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birth.

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And Dumoulin is just this like, you know.

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Well, yeah.

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Adam Weishaupt kind of combined these two things, right, kind of together.

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Adam Weishaupt is much less discussed in Masonry.

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The term Illuminati is not directly used except in books that are very topical that seem to

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be giving a historical approach of how this society is related to the other one.

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The term that is sort of used or is repeated internally and even appears in some other ways

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is hierarchy.

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And you have, you have these concepts which do seem to originate from Hermeticism and other

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mystery religions through time, things like the winding stair, also that, that checked floor.

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Right.

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So those, those symbols are used extensively.

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Adam Weishaupt They always try to tie this to the Tai Chi somehow, but it's like not affiliated

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at all.

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But basically like the black and the white, the two sides of the coin, you know, the, the

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two four opposing forces kind of thing within Hermeticism, right?

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That's kind of what, when, when you're researching from the outside, that's what they're talking about.

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Adam Weishaupt They use those symbols extensively and they, a lot of people know that we refer to,

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it's interesting to note, two things are forbidden to be talked about in a lodge while it's in session.

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Frosted Flakes and what else?

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I'm just kidding.

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Adam Weishaupt Yes, there's no mention of Frosted Flakes.

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It's totally off of it.

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Politics and religion.

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Those two topics are not to be discussed in the formal context among brothers because they

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bring division among brothers.

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One of the things you got to understand is Masons, through all the ritual work, through

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all the degrees, through all the pageantry of the lodge opening and closing, are loyal to

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each other, really in the absolute.

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And loyal not only to each other, but to keeping each other's secrets and to keeping each other's

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reputation, you might say.

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In Masonry we have this principle called the, the heal and conceal.

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And what this means is you have a, what they call a brotherly obligation, to the best of

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your ability.

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You know, you don't have to go broke or die in the process yourself, but to the best of

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your ability you should help a fellow brother in distress.

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So if their family is going through financial hardship or whatever, most of these guys are

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not anywhere near that, but you know, if they were, you'd have an obligation to try and

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help them to the best of your ability.

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That's the heal part.

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The second part, the conceal, the, the way it's explained is like you, you are to make

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it seem or to cover for that person as if they never had hardship.

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So you're helping them not only recover from whatever it was that afflicted them, but help

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them save public face, for lack of a better word, so that other notable families don't

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see them as being weak or having any kind of problem.

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You know, so you're, you're called on to, you protect each other.

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It's really, it really is in the fullest sense of the word, it's a good old boys club.

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I feel like I'm watching a National Geographic like animal documentary or like an animal planet

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animal documentary where you're describing like a group of, you know, animals and how they

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treat one another.

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It's really bizarre actually.

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Here's another interesting fact.

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The, there's a beautiful saying in Masonry that in Masonry, all brothers are equal.

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And in a lodge, even the King may take a low seat.

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And this is an extremely interesting concept.

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Masons have a rotating, uh, chairmanship as it were, uh, called the master of the lodge.

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And you rotate over the course of several years often through different stations of the lodge

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with many brothers ultimately sitting as master of the lodge, uh, over time.

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But when you're in lodge, you're outside of rank, which you might use if you're at a fancy

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dinner party and you enter the room based on your rank.

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So in other words, it's like if you're a president or something.

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Yeah, if you're a prince, if you're a marquee, uh, none of that, uh, precedence happens in the lodge.

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Only Masonic rank counts in the lodge.

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So you could literally be, um, you know, a low ranking Mason and be the Duke of Wales, right?

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Whatever.

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And, and you wouldn't, uh, have the same precedence according to you in the lodge

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because only Masonic rank is counted when the lodge is in session.

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We call each other by number, not by name.

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Carla's number 14, I'm number 12.

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Burnsy's number 29.

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You outrank Mr. Burns here?

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Sure.

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Watch.

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Hey 29, get out of here!

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Thank you, sir.

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May I have another?

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Patience, Monty.

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Climb the ladder.

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So this is an extremely interesting principle and I do find a lot of these guys, um, a lot

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of the big shots, Wall Street big shots or whoever that I met and, and have now some, you know,

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pretty good friends arising from this, they will let down their guard in the Masonic lodge

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for this reason, because it feels comfortable, it feels brotherly and it feels like you're

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just able to share with one another, uh, without all that outside pressure and, you know, you

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don't have, uh, you don't have women, uh, distracting you, right?

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You know, that can take some competitive pressure off of men at times, you know, and you, from the

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outside, if, if you're looking at, you know, some of the nefarious things attributed to

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Masonry over time, you know, you would think all these guys are, uh, are the uber mensch

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or something, that they never suffer, that they never have hardship or, you know, but they

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do.

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They have emotional tribulations, they have other tribulations.

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They might be wealthier than the average person, but they're, uh, they're still people and,

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you know, they, they, they do have this side which you, you, you, you, you don't see them

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portray in public, um, for all kinds of reasons.

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So I'm gonna guess that because of that, some people have come up to you and said some

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pretty weird things, right?

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Uh, for sure.

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I mean, I had a guy, uh, directly tell me, and this, this sounds like, you know, it sounds

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like it's some kind of intentional leak or some, you know, funny thing that you would

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hear on edge of wonder or, or, you know, but he, he literally told me, he said, uh, and

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he was a little tipsy at the time.

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He had had a few beers in him from our, uh, convocation, you know, he directly told me

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this in a wall street firm, you cannot rise above a certain level of management.

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Unless you are Austro-Hungarian Jew.

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He was kind of complaining about it.

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You could say like, cause he was in finance.

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He wasn't Austro-Hungarian.

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And so he was kind of like this BS system, you know, kind of, so to speak, you know, which

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is funny.

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There definitely was, I had some good friends in the lodge who were, uh, Jewish, extremely,

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uh, wealthy.

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I know from casual conversation knew the Koch brothers personally.

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They knew, they knew all of these, uh, people, you know, and, and they're just in that circle.

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People complain about how college admissions are no longer based on merit.

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It's based on like payola, basically complaining that their kids can't get into Harvard anymore

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cause too many people are bribing their way in or whatever.

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Too much Chinese influence there.

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Some of them even are aware of the fact that they had to limit the number of Asians at certain

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of these schools and actually put a quote on it.

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Or otherwise there would be, the entire school would be Asian based on your actual qualifications.

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But so, uh, another interesting thing, speaking of the Asian topic, in order to be a Mason,

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interestingly enough, and they ask you this, and that when they come to your house, they

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say, are you a communist?

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And you cannot answer yes, because only a theist, only someone who believes in a higher

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power is allowed to be a Mason.

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So communists de facto are disallowed because they're atheists.

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However, I know for a fact that in the Acacia Club, which is the Chinese men's lounge of Masonry,

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so to speak, uh, there are in fact some pretty high ranking, uh, communists.

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Now, I don't know if you follow this thread, but there's this author, uh, Richard Wumbrand,

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who says that high-level communists are not atheists, they're something else.

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So they do believe in a higher power if you follow.

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Yeah, like, you're thinking more of the darker satanic aspect of things, correct?

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You could, you could put it that way.

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Man, I have, like, a lot of questions.

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I, I, um, well, one, is there anything else that people have told you that just, like, blew your mind?

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You know, and I don't know how this stuff even comes up in, in casual conversation,

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but it's just, like, some of these people are so excited about it, they sort of can't contain themselves.

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Uh, I forget how it got started, but, you know, all kinds of topics are discussed around business

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or other things, you know, and when men get going, it's always history and logic and technology and cool stuff, right?

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So he was saying that we, not sure who exactly that was, um, I believe this person worked for or had something to do,

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maybe was an investor in, uh, Rand Corporation.

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Rand and or Lockheed Martin, I think those two are somehow related, but in any case, uh, he said,

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we now have a, uh, a train that can dig its own tunnel.

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The way he described it, it's like a train fitted with, uh, an extremely high-powered laser on the front of it,

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or an array of lasers that can dustify, uh, some people may be familiar with this theory out of, you know, 9-11,

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but it can, it can dustify, uh, dirt or rock or anything.

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It can turn into, like, a fine powder.

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And so essentially, no track or tunnel has to be laid in advance.

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A train can just, uh, burrow, so to speak, like a, like a mole might burrow.

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And so you can dig as many underground tunnels as you want, you just, and you're already in the train,

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so you're, you're riding in it, like a passenger might ride a, you know, a, a condor or something,

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and you, you're just, uh, you know, burrowing under the ground.

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How fast, though? And like, where would you go?

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He just says, we now have this thing, and I'm like, oh, that's fascinating.

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You know, it's almost like some of these people, like, they, they can't bear to really not talk about it

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because it's just so cool, you know? Um, it was this kind of feeling, you know, it wasn't like,

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I'm meeting the guy behind the, you know, in the alley and put the money envelope and he gives me the goods.

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He just kind of, like, wanted to kind of tell me, like, as if he's like a kid in a candy store,

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like, we have this thing, check this out, you know?

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And it's funny because, you know, these guys, I mean, they do, you know, these huge funds, you know,

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they're in defense, they're in all kinds of stuff, you know, so they know what's going on.

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They know tangentially probably all kinds of stuff.

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I'll go back to the library thing for a second. Here's the mind-blowing thing.

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There's a book in this library by John Dewey, and I forget the title, I apologize, I can't remember the exact title,

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but when I read it, it was basically a book about occult numerology.

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John Dewey was literally an occult numerologist who spent, apparently, a large portion of his life researching numbers

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and had recorded his thoughts on the subject in this book about occult numerology

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and what all the numbers meant and how you could manipulate them and add them up and learn things about the universe

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and just all kinds of, you know, people who are into sacred geometry would probably love this book or whatever.

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But, you know, it's like, these are like his theories, you know, and my explanation for why these books are so hidden from the public,

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again, I didn't find something like, oh, here's, you know, plan for world domination in the Masonic Library,

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but these are topics, a lot of them, occult topics, or what have you, numerology, astrology, there's a bunch of books about astrology and finance.

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Like, find that section in your local library, the astrology slash finance section, right, where they basically, for lack of a better word,

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are discussing their pet theories on how to apply, it's like applied astrology as it applies to finance.

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And my only explanation for this is that these men, these high public figures in their lifetimes, were into these subjects, casually,

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and wanted to write books about them and share them as giddy intellectuals get.

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You know, if you've ever worked with college professors or whatever, they just can't wait to tell you their new theory and give advice, right, you know.

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So it's like, they wrote these books knowing full well that they dare not publish them in public to a largely, you know, Christian world at that time,

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who would immediately find these subjects to be totally...

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Bonkers.

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Bonkers.

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The book is actually....

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Bonkers.

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There's actually a Masonic publishing house, which publishes exclusively Masonic books and their reprints, oh, this company does not carry these books in their catalog because they've looked.

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But they carry a lot of other Masonic titles.

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I can't even find these books on any kind of Internet search or in any other library and I've tried.

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Anyways, these books exist, I have seen them, I have held them, I'm absolutely sure of their

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existence.

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That's all I can give you really, but basically these guys were interested in these topics,

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they knew they were untouchable in society, but they wanted to publish them internally

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for maybe no other reason than their peers in the social circle, in the investment world

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or whatever, could look at it and say, wow, that's an interesting theory, I had to try

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that out, you know, kind of thing.

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Because from the outside, these things are like big conspiracy, but this is the world

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that these guys deal with every day.

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They deal with investment, they deal with managing people, and I do think from the tone of some

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of these books, especially Albert Pike and Ledbetter, they do kind of, for lack of a better word,

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get off on this idea of kind of playing God, manifesting this kind of authority in the

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human world.

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And their megalomania or whatever, they just want to write about it, you know, and discuss

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their pet theory of how you can, you know, essentially manipulate or know this kind of

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stuff.

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And again, you know, I don't believe that this stuff is absolute or even absolutely works,

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but it doesn't stop these people from trying, it's just like our government doing constant

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experiments with weather, you know.

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It may not actually work, but they're going to try it, they're going to try to do it because

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if they succeed, well, you know, nothing like being able to time an economic cycle.

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Well, and be able to tell everyone, hey, I controlled the weather.

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You know, funny enough, I didn't read the whole book because I was just, you know, kind of browsing

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at the time, I wasn't, I didn't even know this book existed, so I wasn't planning on

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reading the whole thing because I only had like a couple hours that day to be in there.

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You know, as I can tell from my light consumption of this book, if someone has read it, you can

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correct me, but he basically wanted to number things in a fashion that suited his thinking.

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I don't know what he was really cooked up on or thinking he was doing by renumbering everything,

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but I remember, because I've also studied the Bible extensively, I'm an ex-Catholic, went

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to a number of Catholic institutions, and I've actually read the Bible from cover to cover,

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mostly the King James Bible, even though that's not the one that's used in Catholicism.

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That was my personal favorite Bible.

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You know, you have the book of Numbers, for one thing, you have Deuteronomy, you have these

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other books, and one of the things that seems to be a theme in the Bible is that the number

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in which things are given is fairly important, and it comes from the Divine, it comes from

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God, right?

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So, in my understanding of esoteric theory, and I'm, again, no advanced adept or anything

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at this, but when you renumber something, it essentially changes its correspondence or can

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alter it on earth and maybe in other ways.

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If you talk about, you know, something like 440 and 432, right, when you change that frequency,

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something else happens or a different effect is produced.

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So, I can only think by literally renumbering and reordering all the subjects for people to

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learn everywhere and every school child being taught this.

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I have no idea, but it might have some effect on their mind's perception of those subjects

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or on the weight, esoteric or otherwise, of those subjects.

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Because numbers are important in the universe, in physics, you know, they just kind of are.

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So, for whatever reason, he set out to do this, and he was, for lack of a better term,

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an occult numerologist.

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You know, I'm always, like, hearing you speak about this, I'm very curious what 666 represents

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now in the Dewey Decimal System.

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The Dewey Donkey System.

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The Dewey Donkey System.

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Interestingly enough, 666 doesn't really come up that much in Masonry.

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It's not symbolically anywhere, it's not.

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More so numbers that come up are 3rd, 33rd, multiples of 3 are very important.

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9th degree, 12th degree, 18th degree, Freemasonry.

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These are, these are all degree numbers.

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There are no degrees in between those degrees.

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Again, when you look at how Masonry represents God.

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One of the interesting things, when you take your oath, Masonic oath, which you take on

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an altar, above an altar, on a holy book of your choice, the holy books you can use are

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limited to the orthodox religions, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism.

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Do they consider Islam an orthodox religion in Masonry?

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Yes.

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Yes, they do.

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You can use the Quran, but you can't use, for instance, the Kebra Nagas that the Rastafarians

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use, or whatever is used by Santeria, or whatever.

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You can't use those books, because they're not considered orthodox.

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But the Quran is considered orthodox by Masonry.

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You know, you take your oath upon the book, just like any person taking a public office would

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take an oath, right?

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Pretty standard format, really.

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When you refer to their concept of a divine being, because it's kind of as a nod to different

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brothers having different beliefs.

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The term they use is to go to, or the grand architect of the universe.

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Many Christian scholars over the years have asserted this does not at all refer to the

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Christian God and maybe the deist God, or the so-called God of nature, which some people

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accuse Jefferson of using in the founding documents of the country or whatsoever, as Springmeyer

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asserts in his book.

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All I can say is, it's not made explicit.

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It's almost like a blank slate in which you can project your own image of God onto.

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He's just symbolized by a G in Masonry.

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There's a large G, this to go to, as I say, the grand architect of the universe.

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Because everything in Masonry is about architecture, right?

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The whole concept of Masonry is architecture and building.

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Okay, what is an entered apprentice Mason?

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Someone who gathers rough stones in a quarry.

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What is a fellow craft Mason?

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Someone who smooths those rough stones for the master Mason's use.

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What is a master Mason?

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Someone who lays those stones for the master of the lodge to lay his ground drafts upon.

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This is the symbology that's used in, in Masonry.

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And it's how you wear your apron and other signs and symbols denote your rank.

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And it is a Mason's apron.

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It's the apron of a stone cutter.

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So the famous Simpsons episode of the stone cutters, right?

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Was all a reference to that.

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Well, I didn't realize you were a member.

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As were, uh, Nick Cage's comments in, uh, the movie, uh, you know, about Masonry, uh.

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Of the National Treasure or whatever?

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Yes.

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That's, that's the one.

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And, uh, the person, I'll tell you this much, uh, without getting too into it.

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The person who wrote that movie definitely, I would say, had to be a Mason.

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Or if they weren't, they were a very good Masonic scholar.

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Because a lot of the references were pretty spot on.

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And the language used was playfully not the actual language, but was very close to it.

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So that if a Mason watched that movie, they'd get a whole nother layer of inside jokes out of that movie.

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Um, because there were a bunch.

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And, uh, Cage's character himself uttered a lot of them, actually.

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You know, the Templars and the Freemasons believed that the treasure was too great for any one man to have.

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Not even a king.

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That's why they went to such lengths to keep it hidden.

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That's right.

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What level did you reach?

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I'm a Master Mason.

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Now, because of my, uh, bloodline, um, which I won't get into directly because...

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It'll give you away!

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I'm eligible for the highest levels of Masonry, including, as I am to understand it, pretty much any level I want.

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I'm eligible for, uh, the Society of Cincinnati.

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There's different, uh, kinds of clubs that, you know, Sons and Daughters of the Revolution, for one thing.

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This concept, I cannot tell you enough how important this is to Masons.

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Bloodline is extremely important.

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They said I could join the Knights Templar.

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They said I could join the Mystic Temple of the Shrine.

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I could, if I chose, I could now, uh, go and become a 30-30 degree, uh, Master Mason.

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I did not want to do that, even though I was told by higher-ranking Masons that it's just a play.

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It's just a play.

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What do you have to do to become a 30-30 Mason?

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Well, I don't know, because I didn't do it.

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I can tell you what I had to do in not so many words, because this part, um, this part really is the so-called secrets of Masonry,

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which I have taken an oath not to reveal, and there's no point of me revealing it to the audience anyways,

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unless the person plans to infiltrate Masonry, which is the exact, uh, signs and the words of the ritual.

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Those are the secrets of Masonry, and they are unintelligible to a layperson anyway, so I won't get into those.

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Like, Latin? Or a more ancient language?

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They can be used in English, if you want.

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Uh, I will tell you that Holland Lodge No. 8, uh, conducts some of their ceremonies, uh, or rituals.

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They conduct them in Low Dutch.

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Low Dutch is an old language that hardly anyone speaks.

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Those of you who may know that before it was New York, it was New Amsterdam.

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Right.

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I think that has something to do with it.

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All these financial titans, and still today, whole ceremonies, whole, uh, assemblies of the Lodge,

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and I've personally witnessed this, connected, conducted in Low Dutch.

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I'm like, y'all just hedge fund managers all speak in Low Dutch,

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and I guess I'm just not going to the right parties, like, I don't know, you know, like,

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y'all still know how to speak this, and here we are, kind of half-naked,

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this candlelight, and everyone's speaking in Low Dutch, you know.

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It doesn't, you know, you just have to pause for a second, because an ordinary person would be like,

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Oh God, get me out of there, you know.

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But here it was, you know, and, and that's, that's the ritual work of, of major.

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It is, it is some of it, conducted in candlelight.

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Um.

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Half-naked, as you said.

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There are times, especially when you're, you're joining, you go through, uh, what amounts to a pretty heavy-duty fraternity hazing ritual,

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um, which is a little bit painful.

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I'll just describe it similar to, like, the, uh, you know, those guys in, in the airborne,

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Army airborne, when they get their pin put on.

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Oh yeah.

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Directly, uh, with the steel.

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Uh, yeah, there's some elements of that in masonry.

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Um.

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Amazing in, like, in fraternities and colleges come from?

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Comes from this.

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Really?

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Yeah, I believe so.

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Yeah, I, I, I, I had that, I had that feeling for a while.

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You all, there's interesting things, like, when you go through the ritual, if people know about, um, different esoteric practices

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where you cannot have metals on you, gold, silver, et cetera, because they will interfere with the energy,

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uh, you also take those items off during, uh, masonic rituals.

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Rings, coins, et cetera, are temporarily, uh, placed aside.

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That is interesting, because I would imagine the gold would have been a conductor for that energy,

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not something that they would want to put aside.

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Yeah, but what energy?

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All right, guys, that's all we have time for right now, and check out our next episode with our Freemason Insider.

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Coming soon.

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On Edge of Wonder.

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Right.

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So there's, there's three major lines in masonry.

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The York Rite, the Scottish Rite, and the Ancient Order of the Mystic Shrine.

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The money that they have definitely doesn't come from that.

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It comes from holdings, some of which seem to actually go back to the Templars.

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She said there's a room where, uh, future events are on the wall of this room in what amounts to, like, poster format,

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like movie posters, like this event, that event.

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They've had this kind of money under their control, uh, for a long time.

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At least in my lodge, they had the old regalia on, so they actually carry a really cool medieval sword.

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So they're literally guarding the door with the sword.

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I, I don't know what is wrong with this person.

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Like, I, I really felt, uh, something I, I would say I've never experienced on meeting another person on this earth.

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Spiritually, I feel he's not in such a good way, Kulder, but like, the temperature has dropped in this room, Kulder.

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They've researched it extensively, and they're the best in the world at treating burns.

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Spiritually, spring.

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Spiritually, progress Salem, 않아요.

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Spiritually, for use, like yoga,cioani, rescue kommuns.

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Spiritually, smell.

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Spiritually, yes, so Hö cow, so a았어.

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Spiritually, she makes whatever reason.

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Spiritually, it's very narrow.

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Spiritually,護身.

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Spiritually, she feels very easy to the materialhta, andiset sitcom.

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edere淵, even with her lovelyupunann.

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Spiritually, that's the song...

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Spiritually.

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Spiritually, it's very early on.

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Spiritually, it's very specific.

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Spiritually, it's very relevant.

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Spiritually, she's a living видел state.

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Spiritually, Spiritually, it's very relevant.

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Spiritually, the everyday man.

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Spiritually canalleys, we managed to have toAT vars.