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Many of us will have heard the phrase,

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you will own nothing and be happy.

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And just last month, the EPA implemented a
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seemingly in service of this agenda

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that will even by the EPA's own admission

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put many small and medium meat processing
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and cattle producers out of business.

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Only those that can afford to reduce their
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of the animal products will be able to bypass

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these new EPA regulations.

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This example of bureaucratic overreach

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is in service of a larger goal of controlling
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ostensibly to stop climate change.

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Will it succeed?

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Here on Fallout, today we have a special
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physician and local rancher, Dr. Brooke
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And we'll get to learn about where he thinks

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all of this is heading.

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Hello everyone, and welcome to Fallout.

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I'm Jan Jekielek.

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I'm the Senior Editor with Epoch Times.

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Of course, we're here with Dr. Robert Malone,

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the star of Fallout.

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Ha!

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And also we've got Dr. Brooke Miller with us
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And you're doing great.

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We're going to have a lot of fun with you.

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We're going to have a lot of fun with you.

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We're going to have a lot of fun with you.

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We're going to have a lot of fun with you.

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We're going to have a lot of fun with you.

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We're going to have a lot of fun with you.

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And you're a different kind of doctor.

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No, he's not.

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He's my physician.

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Yeah.

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Well, he's a real doctor.

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So we've got a doctor MD and we've got a
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I am a different doctor.

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I'm a doctor and a rancher.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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Well, yeah, so what we're going to talk about
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is number one, we're going to look at
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how these new rules that may actually end up
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the small producers, cattle producers,

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and I guess processors really,

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this is what the new rule is targeting.

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And the other thing is this 30 by 30 plan,

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which I discussed years ago at 2021 actually,

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became aware of it.

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Then Governor Ricketts, now Senator Ricketts
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had been sort of championing this,

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I guess pushback against this 30 by 30 plan,

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to get 30% of land in America,

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basically under federal jurisdiction

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or federal protection, essentially.

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Now it's 12%.

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So let's talk about that.

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Yeah, what really shocks me about this

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is that it comes on the heels of this Supreme
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about West Virginia versus EPA having to do

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with the Clean Air Act and kind of the
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and capricious activities of the EPA

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as it relates to air quality.

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And the Supreme Court clearly made a decision

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that the EPA doesn't have the authority

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to go outside of the bounds of the statute

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and start doing its own rulemaking.

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And here we have the EPA acting directly

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using the Clean Water Act.

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And again, in arbitrary and capricious
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based on modest levels of phosphorus and
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in wastewater from animal processing
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And because of that, they're gonna force

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these small slaughterhouses to implement

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some really high tech solutions to solve the
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of wastewater that contains phosphorus and
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which of course is the stuff that we put on
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as fertilizer on a routine basis, right?

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Yeah, exactly.

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And this just looks like bureaucratic
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and shows that our country is being run by
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and they really aren't accountable.

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So, you know, about a year ago, we were over
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and a fellow Nate named Texas Slim was over
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showing us how every part of the cow can be
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and eaten and so forth.

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And I got to see your farm for the first
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But how did this whole process happen?

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I think you told me, or he told me back then

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that it's been a 30 year process of these,

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both the producers and the processors

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are basically being consolidated hard.

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Currently, there are four major corporations,

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multinational corporations that control 85%

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of the processing and basically protein
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through the regulatory agencies.

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And I think this ruling is probably part of
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They have basically monopolized our industry

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and we can now see that we have a national
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are smaller than they have ever been since
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that producers claim or get from raising
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each year, they don't compete.

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And Texas Slim, as you mentioned, is part of
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that we've been seeing growing movements

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where we're trying to bypass the big packers.

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Is we use small and medium sized processing
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to market our cattle directly to consumers.

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So this is really an assault on not only our
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to market our cattle, but consumers ability

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to decide where and what type of food they
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And what happens is, is you have people like
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who do this because they love it.

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do it because they love it, they love it the
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But their children are growing up

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and they see how hard it is and how
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And they're going to do other things.

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So this is turning into a national security
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for our country because we are outsourcing
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to foreign countries.

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Currently, we are a net importer of beef

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as opposed to a net exporter.

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And we have some of the best genetics

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and the best ranchers in the world.

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And we could produce far more food for this
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and worldwide than what we're doing.

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and the ability of these big corporations

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to influence our lawmakers has stacked the
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against our production agriculture model.

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So why don't we look at the actual wording of
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And the whole history of this is really quite
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It just came out in January, right, as a rule

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or as a draft rule.

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Then they asked for a comment period

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up until March 23rd or something like that.

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I think it was the next day they issued the
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So this is the EPA summary of the rule.

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This is a mouthful.

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The Environmental Protection Agency

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is proposing a regulation to revise

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the Technology-Based Effluent Limitations
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and Standards, or ELGs, in case you were
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for the meat and poultry products point
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The proposed rule would improve water quality

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and protect human health and the environment

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by reducing the discharge of nutrients

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and other pollutants to the nation's surface
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EPA is proposing several regulatory options,

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including the preferred option discussed in
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The preferred option is estimated to cost

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232 million annually and reduce pollutant
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by approximately 100 million pounds per year.

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What are the effluents that they're talking
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Like I said, it's nitrogen and phosphorus.

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Apparently they spent years trying to detect
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and other pathogens associated with these

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otherwise approved and compliant meat packing
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And they couldn't detect the bacterial or
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and they came down to just these two things

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that are really fertilizer ingredients

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that every farmer puts on their fields,
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Yeah, I had a local Southern States rep come
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wanting to sell me some fertilizer for our
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and that's exactly what they were gonna put
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was nitrogen and phosphorus.

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This is much akin to what's being claimed in
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as justification for trying to push the
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off of their lands is particularly nitrogen
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Tell us what that they want to put this solid
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What do they want to change it into?

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Yeah, so apparently what they want to do is
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CO2 and methane.

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Which are obviously-

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Makes a lot of sense.

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According to them, greenhouse gases, right?

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Makes a lot of sense.

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So that's what they want this waste to go
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They want to take solid substances

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which could be theoretically spread on the
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and they want to gasify it,

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which the entire climate change hysteria

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is based on CO2 and methane.

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And they want to make more of it.

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Without any notification or acknowledgement

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of that contradiction.

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Is there any theories out there

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as to why they may have chosen this?

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Because you would think that the people

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that deeply believe that this is an
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wouldn't they be concerned about this?

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You would think so.

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If they truly believed in it.

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This looks like a heavy handed rule that had
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that is trying to put small packers out of
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Because small farmers can market their cattle

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directly to the consumers

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and it doesn't benefit the big multinational
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Control the food, control the people.

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So the other contradiction here

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is that this is completely flies in the face

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of this announcement from Tom Vilsack in
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When he says, Biden-Harris administration

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is investing 73 million and 21 grant projects

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through the first round of the meat

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and poultry processing expansion program.

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So they said they were gonna drop in the
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73 million to try to improve

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and enhance the number of small processing
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Yeah and I asked that question to our
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for small packing in the United States
Cattlemen Association.

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His response was that that money's gone.

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It went to keeping the government open.

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The money was never used.

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So it got reappropriated and now they've come
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with this from a separate agency

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other than USDA or Interior.

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They're coming out from EPA making this rule

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that essentially is shutting these folks
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They're accomplishing exactly the opposite

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what they said their stated goals were in
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So is anybody in Congress doing anything
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Well there's the beef act.

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Which is what?

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Um, basically it is trying to rein in the EPA

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and saying that they have no right to
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over this and that they can't make this rule.

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So this thing, this hemit is 64 pages

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of new regulatory language that these meat
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are gonna have to comply with.

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Well we're gonna see loss of, massive losses

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of probably the older packing plants

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that serve the communities.

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And it will negatively impact farmers and
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indirectly because if they don't have packing
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to send their cattle to, they'll have to send
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through the commodity market where the
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already control that and suppress our live
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Explain that to me, how does it work now?

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Basically you have your cow calf producers

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and they produce calves and then they go to a
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and grow them out and finally, eventually
they go

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to a feed lot and these feed lots sell these
animals

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to packing plants.

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Well if there's no free market competition,

263
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the packers pretty much set their price.

264
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They don't have two people bidding on it.

265
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There's no actual free market because there
are four

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of them that control 85% of the market.

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So they have a monopoly there and so the use
of small

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and regional packing plants is a way to
bypass

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that monopoly and market directly to the
consumer

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and the consumer is able to see exactly how
their animals

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are raised, who raised them, what practices
they use,

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what they're fed and they know a lot more
about their food

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and it's a lot healthier.

274
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You know, one of the things with COVID-19 is
we saw

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a couple of large packing plants shut down

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because they had some workers that were sick

277
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and we saw a temporary reduction in their
packing capacity

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or their processing capacity.

279
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We saw shortages of meat at the meat counter.

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Ultimately, consumers paid tremendous higher
prices

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at the meat counter and they also gave the
farmers

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and ranchers a tremendous reduction

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in the value of their animal.

284
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In other words, so they were-

285
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So the packers squeezed everybody.

286
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They squeezed everybody and they made so much
money

287
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during that, they recorded record profits

288
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during the pandemic.

289
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They made more profits during the pandemic

290
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than they did before and after the pandemic

291
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because they were able to squeeze both ends

292
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and consumers saw that and they finally said,

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hey, my food doesn't come from the grocery
store,

294
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it comes from a grower, it comes from a
farmer and a rancher

295
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and there's one right down the road.

296
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Why don't I go talk to him and hey,

297
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do you ever sell me any of your beef?

298
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And I get that question all the time.

299
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Do you ever sell me any of your beef?

300
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And I say yes.

301
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He goes, well, how can I get some?

302
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So this, here in Virginia, there's a lot of
smaller

303
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cattle producers that are selling direct to
market

304
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and you're one of them.

305
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Yes.

306
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And we get our beef from you.

307
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So you're able to-

308
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You're supposed to say it's the best beef
you've ever had.

309
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It is absolutely the best beef.

310
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So your local slaughterhouse

311
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that you ship your steers to,

312
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what is it gonna cost them?

313
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Their costs are gonna be comparable

314
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with the rest of the industry.

315
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What's the impact on those poor guys?

316
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It's gonna be financially devastating for
them.

317
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I mean, we've heard-

318
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What kind of numbers are you talking about?

319
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We've heard estimates-

320
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It's gonna be $20,000?

321
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We've heard estimates, three, 400,000,

322
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up to a million, to a million and a half

323
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for them to upgrade their facilities

324
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in order to meet these regulations.

325
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So that they're not, remember, EPA Clean
Water Act

326
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is supposed to be for navigable waterways.

327
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Yes, most of these waters are well waters.

328
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Yeah, so they're not discharging in navigable
waterways.

329
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So this is a real novel application

330
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of the law, so to speak, or rules-

331
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It's total stretch.

332
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Yeah.

333
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Yeah.

334
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To reduce a small amount of waste of nitrogen
and phosphorus

335
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that are essentially fertilizers.

336
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We will see lawsuits, I forget.

337
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I'm sure we will see lawsuits.

338
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And the EPA, kind of, from their own
statements,

339
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they really don't care.

340
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They estimate between 16 and 845 facilities
will shut down.

341
00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:46,940
Yep.

342
00:15:46,940 --> 00:15:47,779
And that's okay.

343
00:15:47,779 --> 00:15:49,860
It's really the climate agenda.

344
00:15:49,860 --> 00:15:53,019
Oh, you're exactly right, because you can
bypass this

345
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by reducing the amount of beef that you
process.

346
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So that's their proposed solution.

347
00:15:58,860 --> 00:15:59,700
Yes.

348
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Is drop a million to a million and a half,

349
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,659
or just stop producing so much animal
product.

350
00:16:06,659 --> 00:16:08,600
Exactly, exactly.

351
00:16:09,580 --> 00:16:11,419
So that's the whole point of the law.

352
00:16:11,419 --> 00:16:14,220
It's to control the food, control the people.

353
00:16:14,220 --> 00:16:15,060
Right.

354
00:16:15,060 --> 00:16:15,899
Yeah.

355
00:16:15,899 --> 00:16:20,100
And so this kind of plays into this other
agenda of-

356
00:16:21,060 --> 00:16:21,899
Control the land?

357
00:16:21,899 --> 00:16:23,700
Controlling the land, yeah.

358
00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:25,700
The packers, the multinational packers

359
00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:27,100
control the chicken industry,

360
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and they control the hog industry,

361
00:16:28,779 --> 00:16:31,019
because they can do that in confinement.

362
00:16:31,019 --> 00:16:34,019
They have tried to completely control the
cattle industry,

363
00:16:34,019 --> 00:16:36,259
and one thing that they have not been able to
do

364
00:16:36,259 --> 00:16:37,700
to control the cattle industry

365
00:16:37,860 --> 00:16:38,700
is to own that much land,

366
00:16:38,700 --> 00:16:40,300
and they do not control that much land.

367
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Those cattle are grazing places in this world

368
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that have no other use.

369
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The only use is for cattle and agriculture.

370
00:16:49,259 --> 00:16:52,379
You can't till it rough land, you can't till
it.

371
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There's some of these public lands in the
West,

372
00:16:58,180 --> 00:17:00,160
but the cattle are good for the public lands,

373
00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,980
but they're trying to push them off.

374
00:17:01,980 --> 00:17:05,840
They've been trying to push them off for 30
years.

375
00:17:05,879 --> 00:17:07,919
They've reduced grazing allotments.

376
00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:11,679
They've used environmental standards,

377
00:17:11,679 --> 00:17:13,439
or made up environmental standards

378
00:17:13,439 --> 00:17:15,359
to try to reduce cattle production.

379
00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:20,359
Well, they're also trying to really redirect
groundwater

380
00:17:20,699 --> 00:17:22,039
to urban areas, right?

381
00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:22,879
Yes.

382
00:17:22,879 --> 00:17:24,240
And that's been another part of the
justification,

383
00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,919
is to get the ranchers off the land

384
00:17:25,919 --> 00:17:28,679
so they can appropriate the groundwater

385
00:17:28,679 --> 00:17:30,359
and redirect it towards the big cities.

386
00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:31,319
Isn't that part of it?

387
00:17:31,319 --> 00:17:32,159
Yep.

388
00:17:32,159 --> 00:17:34,699
Well, I'll have to also direct our viewers

389
00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:36,819
to a recent American Thought Leaders episode

390
00:17:36,819 --> 00:17:37,900
with Margaret Bifield.

391
00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:38,740
Absolutely.

392
00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:40,980
Who's been kind of in the thick of all this
stuff

393
00:17:42,059 --> 00:17:43,140
for quite some time.

394
00:17:43,140 --> 00:17:45,539
Margaret is one of the big heroes here, I
think,

395
00:17:45,539 --> 00:17:46,819
in really pushing this.

396
00:17:46,819 --> 00:17:49,620
And she comes from direct experience

397
00:17:49,620 --> 00:17:52,299
in her dad's ranch in the West

398
00:17:52,299 --> 00:17:56,860
of having been shut down by this kind of
regulatory overreach.

399
00:17:56,860 --> 00:17:58,660
But this is really interesting,

400
00:17:58,660 --> 00:17:59,580
what you're saying, that somehow,

401
00:17:59,580 --> 00:18:02,299
so the beef industry is different than these
other industries

402
00:18:02,339 --> 00:18:05,740
just because of the larger amounts of land
required?

403
00:18:05,740 --> 00:18:06,579
Absolutely.

404
00:18:06,579 --> 00:18:07,940
Yes, yes.

405
00:18:07,940 --> 00:18:10,399
Chicken and pork, they basically,

406
00:18:10,399 --> 00:18:14,019
they eat a concentrated ration.

407
00:18:14,019 --> 00:18:18,259
Cattle grow up and they eat basically grass
and hay

408
00:18:18,259 --> 00:18:20,500
until they go to the big feedlots.

409
00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:22,539
But they're raised mainly on grass and hay.

410
00:18:22,539 --> 00:18:24,379
In order to raise grass and hay,

411
00:18:24,379 --> 00:18:25,899
you have to have thousands of acres,

412
00:18:25,899 --> 00:18:27,799
millions of acres of land.

413
00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:31,259
And the large packers have not been able

414
00:18:31,259 --> 00:18:33,740
to totally control our industry

415
00:18:33,740 --> 00:18:36,619
and totally vertically integrate our industry

416
00:18:36,619 --> 00:18:37,900
because of that fact.

417
00:18:40,819 --> 00:18:45,579
And so now there's this push, you know,
Agenda 2030

418
00:18:45,579 --> 00:18:49,500
and Biden's 30 by 30 proposal

419
00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:54,099
to basically sequester a lot of the highly
productive lands

420
00:18:54,099 --> 00:18:57,339
and rewild it, allow it to go back to

421
00:18:57,339 --> 00:18:59,660
what was claimed to be its original state.

422
00:18:59,740 --> 00:19:03,380
And this is all justified based on climate
change

423
00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:06,540
and on species extinction.

424
00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:08,340
They want to sequester the equivalent

425
00:19:08,340 --> 00:19:10,900
of nine states of Nebraska in addition

426
00:19:10,900 --> 00:19:12,340
to what it is right now.

427
00:19:12,340 --> 00:19:13,340
That's crazy.

428
00:19:13,340 --> 00:19:16,940
Absolutely insane that they want to do.

429
00:19:16,940 --> 00:19:18,700
It's basically about control.

430
00:19:18,700 --> 00:19:21,860
You have to get ranchers off the land in
order to control them.

431
00:19:21,860 --> 00:19:24,420
If ranchers can't produce food for people,

432
00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:26,019
then they will rely on the government

433
00:19:26,019 --> 00:19:29,620
or, you know, government-corporate
partnerships

434
00:19:30,619 --> 00:19:32,579
and also trying to get us to migrate

435
00:19:32,579 --> 00:19:35,099
to these alternative food sources,

436
00:19:35,099 --> 00:19:38,299
including synthetic meats, et cetera.

437
00:19:38,299 --> 00:19:40,339
Are they going to succeed in this?

438
00:19:40,339 --> 00:19:41,179
No.

439
00:19:41,179 --> 00:19:42,899
What's the long-term agenda?

440
00:19:42,899 --> 00:19:44,619
The long-term agenda, I think we all know

441
00:19:44,619 --> 00:19:48,139
that the long-term agenda is the 15-minute
cities,

442
00:19:48,139 --> 00:19:51,739
and you will own nothing and you'll be happy
about it.

443
00:19:51,739 --> 00:19:56,419
So trying to pack people into dense urban
areas

444
00:19:56,420 --> 00:20:00,779
and sequester the land away, this

445
00:20:00,779 --> 00:20:04,940
seems to be part of a population control
logic.

446
00:20:04,940 --> 00:20:07,140
Yeah.

447
00:20:07,140 --> 00:20:10,340
Well, the Paul Ehrlich view of the world,
right?

448
00:20:10,340 --> 00:20:16,140
Like that humanity is kind of a blight on the
planet.

449
00:20:16,140 --> 00:20:19,140
I loved wild lands.

450
00:20:19,140 --> 00:20:21,300
In fact, I became a biologist because I

451
00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:25,180
wanted to spend time in wild lands and not
among people,

452
00:20:25,180 --> 00:20:27,779
not in necessarily Washington, DC.

453
00:20:27,779 --> 00:20:31,740
You know, like, it's kind of funny that way
sometimes.

454
00:20:31,740 --> 00:20:34,700
I didn't think about stewardship, for
example,

455
00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:40,700
as an alternate model for treating the land
well.

456
00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:44,340
During my lifetime, I have known a lot of
Western ranchers,

457
00:20:44,340 --> 00:20:47,220
and I've spent a lot of time on Western
ranchers.

458
00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:48,980
And there are no better stewards of the land

459
00:20:48,980 --> 00:20:51,420
than someone who owns private ownership.

460
00:20:51,420 --> 00:20:53,660
Innovative and they love the land.

461
00:20:53,660 --> 00:20:55,259
That's why they're there.

462
00:20:55,259 --> 00:20:56,860
They're not desecrating the land.

463
00:20:56,860 --> 00:20:58,740
They're trying to take care of the land.

464
00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:01,420
And those privately owned ranches

465
00:21:01,420 --> 00:21:06,259
are in much better ecosystems than these
publicly federally

466
00:21:06,259 --> 00:21:10,420
owned properties that are under federal
control.

467
00:21:10,420 --> 00:21:14,340
And my understanding is that what the
government is,

468
00:21:14,340 --> 00:21:18,100
the US government is trying to do with this
30 by 30 program

469
00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:22,220
is get those ranchers to place their lands
functionally

470
00:21:22,220 --> 00:21:26,700
under federal control through financial
incentives

471
00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:30,500
to get them to put them into conservation
easements.

472
00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:33,620
So you get a little bit of money now.

473
00:21:33,620 --> 00:21:36,460
Sort of like giving donuts for MRNA
directors.

474
00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:38,539
Yeah, that's right.

475
00:21:38,539 --> 00:21:39,779
Yeah, right.

476
00:21:39,779 --> 00:21:41,700
It is, it is a little bribe.

477
00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:43,420
Yeah, a little bribe.

478
00:21:43,420 --> 00:21:45,059
What could possibly go wrong?

479
00:21:45,059 --> 00:21:46,140
Here's free money.

480
00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:46,980
Yeah, free money.

481
00:21:46,980 --> 00:21:48,539
The same kind of program.

482
00:21:48,539 --> 00:21:50,660
It's free money, but there's a fish hook in
there.

483
00:21:50,660 --> 00:21:51,500
Yes.

484
00:21:51,539 --> 00:21:56,420
The fish hook is that then the EPA and all
these other agencies

485
00:21:56,420 --> 00:21:58,579
are going to be able to come in and inspect
your land

486
00:21:58,579 --> 00:22:00,259
and tell you what you have to do with it

487
00:22:00,259 --> 00:22:02,500
and how you have to do it because you've
signed off

488
00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:03,980
for the program and you took the money.

489
00:22:03,980 --> 00:22:05,339
Exactly.

490
00:22:05,339 --> 00:22:06,059
Exactly.

491
00:22:06,059 --> 00:22:08,700
So that seems to be a strategy that we hear
again and again.

492
00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:11,299
That's the way to get around states' rights
in everything.

493
00:22:11,299 --> 00:22:12,740
Yeah, that's what my dad told me.

494
00:22:12,740 --> 00:22:16,099
My dad was still alive when these
conservation

495
00:22:16,099 --> 00:22:17,220
easements came about.

496
00:22:17,220 --> 00:22:19,900
And he said, son, you never give up your
rights.

497
00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:20,980
You'll never get them back.

498
00:22:20,980 --> 00:22:22,500
You never give up your rights.

499
00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:26,140
Right now, it's 30% of the land by 2030.

500
00:22:26,140 --> 00:22:30,019
But the overall objective is to get to 50% of
the earth

501
00:22:30,019 --> 00:22:32,539
placed into wild reserves.

502
00:22:32,539 --> 00:22:34,180
30% by 2030.

503
00:22:34,180 --> 00:22:36,420
That's actually from Agenda 2030.

504
00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:37,180
Absolutely.

505
00:22:37,180 --> 00:22:37,660
Right.

506
00:22:37,660 --> 00:22:39,220
Well, it was signed off by Obama.

507
00:22:39,220 --> 00:22:40,460
Right.

508
00:22:40,460 --> 00:22:44,779
And it was done under this executive
authority, which

509
00:22:44,779 --> 00:22:49,220
we're learning more and more about during the
debate

510
00:22:49,220 --> 00:22:52,740
regarding the World Health Organization

511
00:22:52,740 --> 00:22:56,539
and the international health regulations,
wherein

512
00:22:56,539 --> 00:22:59,900
the Senate doesn't end up actually taking a 2
thirds

513
00:22:59,900 --> 00:23:02,579
vote to approve a treaty.

514
00:23:02,579 --> 00:23:06,220
These agreements are put in place as
executive agreements,

515
00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:07,940
but they apparently have been determined

516
00:23:07,940 --> 00:23:11,180
by international courts and supported by the
Supreme Court

517
00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:13,579
as having the force of a treaty, even though
they've only

518
00:23:13,579 --> 00:23:16,860
come through an executive agreement from the
president.

519
00:23:16,899 --> 00:23:20,299
And that's how Agenda 2030 got passed.

520
00:23:20,299 --> 00:23:23,379
And it's interpreted globally.

521
00:23:23,379 --> 00:23:25,899
And we're all scratching our heads,

522
00:23:25,899 --> 00:23:28,339
trying to make sense out of the open border
policy,

523
00:23:28,339 --> 00:23:29,819
not just in the United States.

524
00:23:29,819 --> 00:23:33,379
People forget the same thing has been
happening in Europe.

525
00:23:33,379 --> 00:23:38,099
To the same end, disruption of cultures,
major upheavals,

526
00:23:38,099 --> 00:23:41,219
protests, et cetera.

527
00:23:41,219 --> 00:23:44,339
And the same kind of thing we're seeing here
in the States,

528
00:23:44,379 --> 00:23:47,699
and so many people are afraid of with this
massive illegal

529
00:23:47,699 --> 00:23:48,779
immigration.

530
00:23:48,779 --> 00:23:53,619
And that is all grounded in a clear statement
in the UN

531
00:23:53,619 --> 00:23:58,740
Agenda 2030 with now the force of treaty and
international law

532
00:23:58,740 --> 00:24:00,939
that it's a fundamental human right to
migrate wherever

533
00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:02,939
you want to live.

534
00:24:02,939 --> 00:24:04,099
Nobody was told about it.

535
00:24:04,099 --> 00:24:05,259
There was no debate.

536
00:24:05,259 --> 00:24:07,500
We didn't have any action in the Senate.

537
00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:09,220
And so no one heard about it until they

538
00:24:09,220 --> 00:24:10,619
started implementing it.

539
00:24:10,619 --> 00:24:13,179
Yeah, I think we'll have to do a deep dive
into that,

540
00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:15,900
into that situation.

541
00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:19,259
Well, what underlies it, Jan, that's really
been bothering

542
00:24:19,259 --> 00:24:23,299
me, and as I say, it's come to fore because
of the World

543
00:24:23,299 --> 00:24:26,580
Health Organization pandemic treaty
initiative

544
00:24:26,580 --> 00:24:29,019
and the international health regulations,

545
00:24:29,019 --> 00:24:30,820
is that it turns out, as you know,

546
00:24:30,820 --> 00:24:33,060
because you know some of the international
lawyers that

547
00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:35,060
have been discussing this, is there

548
00:24:35,060 --> 00:24:38,420
is a real debate going on within the world

549
00:24:38,420 --> 00:24:41,660
of constitutional scholars, academics and
otherwise,

550
00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:45,860
about whether or not treaties can supersede
the Constitution

551
00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:47,620
as the Biden administration is doing,

552
00:24:47,620 --> 00:24:53,140
enabling these treaties such as the WHO
pandemic treaty, which

553
00:24:53,140 --> 00:24:58,340
have clauses which seem to violate
fundamental clauses

554
00:24:58,340 --> 00:25:01,900
in the Constitution, such as free speech

555
00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:07,540
and personal autonomy, property rights, et
cetera,

556
00:25:07,539 --> 00:25:11,899
and really undermine both domestic
sovereignty

557
00:25:11,899 --> 00:25:13,579
and personal sovereignty.

558
00:25:13,579 --> 00:25:16,339
And my understanding, because there's

559
00:25:16,339 --> 00:25:20,180
a specific case of Pink v. the United States,

560
00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:27,259
there is significant case law indicating
that, in fact,

561
00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:31,819
these treaties can create a socket between
international

562
00:25:31,819 --> 00:25:37,259
law and our national law and enable

563
00:25:37,299 --> 00:25:40,420
international courts such as happened with
the Cool Rule

564
00:25:40,420 --> 00:25:42,740
decision, right?

565
00:25:42,740 --> 00:25:45,460
That Cool Rule decision is crucial

566
00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:48,299
because it is a great example of where

567
00:25:48,299 --> 00:25:51,259
we had the North American Free Trade
Agreement

568
00:25:51,259 --> 00:25:55,859
and we had an objection to US practices about
labeling,

569
00:25:55,859 --> 00:25:58,339
which is fundamentally free speech.

570
00:25:58,339 --> 00:26:01,740
And they objected to those labeling, that
labeling,

571
00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:06,059
as in some way violating the North American
Free Trade

572
00:26:06,059 --> 00:26:06,940
Agreement.

573
00:26:06,940 --> 00:26:11,500
And they succeeded in that challenge.

574
00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:15,299
And American beef farmers and the American
beef industry

575
00:26:15,299 --> 00:26:17,059
had to change their practices, their labeling

576
00:26:17,059 --> 00:26:18,419
practices, as a consequence.

577
00:26:18,419 --> 00:26:18,940
Well, right.

578
00:26:18,940 --> 00:26:23,220
And that's using the WTO as the kind of
mechanism,

579
00:26:23,220 --> 00:26:24,460
the enforcement mechanism.

580
00:26:24,460 --> 00:26:26,379
So I guess what you're arguing here,

581
00:26:26,379 --> 00:26:28,819
this is now we're going to be using the WHO
or something

582
00:26:28,819 --> 00:26:29,779
like that in this context.

583
00:26:29,779 --> 00:26:33,539
Well, and to your point, in the pandemic
treaty,

584
00:26:33,539 --> 00:26:36,019
so the question is, because the pandemic
treaty

585
00:26:36,019 --> 00:26:41,139
has these clauses, that the director general
can basically

586
00:26:41,139 --> 00:26:44,420
mandate responses, including all the way to
you shall

587
00:26:44,420 --> 00:26:50,059
take this drug or this vaccine, to public
health

588
00:26:50,059 --> 00:26:51,859
events of international concern.

589
00:26:51,859 --> 00:26:56,220
So Tedros would have the ability under this

590
00:26:56,220 --> 00:26:59,539
to force that kind of implementation.

591
00:26:59,539 --> 00:27:02,660
And right now, the administration

592
00:27:02,660 --> 00:27:04,019
seems to be totally OK with that.

593
00:27:04,059 --> 00:27:07,740
Well, to me, the biggest concern is just
this.

594
00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:10,579
We've already seen what it looks like even
when there isn't

595
00:27:10,579 --> 00:27:12,660
actual force of law.

596
00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:15,579
Someone comes out and says, well, these are
just guidelines.

597
00:27:15,579 --> 00:27:16,379
Yeah.

598
00:27:16,379 --> 00:27:20,180
That's the old IHRs were just supposed to be
guidelines.

599
00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:22,460
The guidelines have been used as the excuse

600
00:27:22,460 --> 00:27:25,379
to implement effectively something

601
00:27:25,379 --> 00:27:26,980
like a mandate in many cases.

602
00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:28,180
They were treated that way.

603
00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:30,779
And then everyone has plausible deniability.

604
00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:31,619
I didn't do anything.

605
00:27:31,619 --> 00:27:32,180
What did you do?

606
00:27:32,180 --> 00:27:32,500
Anything?

607
00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:33,660
I didn't do anything.

608
00:27:34,019 --> 00:27:35,340
There was just a suggestion.

609
00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:37,460
I didn't mandate anything.

610
00:27:37,460 --> 00:27:39,940
Which is the same position the CDC and the
FDA

611
00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:41,940
are taking right now, because they don't
actually

612
00:27:41,940 --> 00:27:43,940
have the right to regulate the practice of
medicine

613
00:27:43,940 --> 00:27:45,220
in the United States.

614
00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:47,340
It's exactly analogous.

615
00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:52,660
If you liked what the CDC and the FDA did
during COVID,

616
00:27:52,660 --> 00:27:55,940
you're going to absolutely love the new
international health

617
00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:59,259
regulations and the WHO pandemic treaty.

618
00:27:59,259 --> 00:28:01,940
So Robert, I think this is actually a great
place to wrap.

619
00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:05,380
But these international health regulations
and pandemic

620
00:28:05,380 --> 00:28:07,660
treaty, I think we've got to cover them on
Fallout one

621
00:28:07,660 --> 00:28:09,779
more time before they actually get voted on
in May.

622
00:28:09,779 --> 00:28:10,259
Absolutely.

623
00:28:10,259 --> 00:28:11,820
Absolutely.

624
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:14,500
And Brooke, you're kind of having

625
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:17,500
a very interesting activity coming up

626
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:20,140
at the farm, your farm ranch.

627
00:28:20,140 --> 00:28:21,340
I don't know.

628
00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:22,740
I never know what to call it, right?

629
00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:24,820
But why don't you tell us a little bit about
that?

630
00:28:24,820 --> 00:28:26,740
Well, this coming Friday, we're going

631
00:28:26,740 --> 00:28:30,779
to have one of our herd health days, where
we're going to run

632
00:28:30,819 --> 00:28:32,899
basically every animal through the shoot.

633
00:28:32,899 --> 00:28:35,980
And we're going to pregnancy check the cows.

634
00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:37,420
We're going to vaccinate the calves

635
00:28:37,420 --> 00:28:40,259
to try to ensure their good health after we
take them

636
00:28:40,259 --> 00:28:43,500
off the mamas in about a month and get your
viewers

637
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:46,579
to see a little bit about what goes into
raising cattle.

638
00:28:46,579 --> 00:28:48,819
And I think it would be something good for
them

639
00:28:48,819 --> 00:28:50,180
to view.

640
00:28:50,180 --> 00:28:53,700
So I think we'll definitely have to send a
camera over there,

641
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:56,819
and we'll include it as part of our episode.

642
00:28:56,819 --> 00:29:00,019
So Brooke, it's been fantastic having you on.

643
00:29:00,019 --> 00:29:01,420
Thank you very much, Jan.

644
00:29:01,420 --> 00:29:04,740
I've always respected you as a top flight
journalist,

645
00:29:04,740 --> 00:29:07,740
the best journalist in the world, in my
opinion.

646
00:29:07,740 --> 00:29:10,339
And I'm very honored to be on your program.

647
00:29:10,339 --> 00:29:14,019
And I'm very honored to be sitting beside
this gentleman

648
00:29:14,019 --> 00:29:17,980
right here, who I also love and respect.

649
00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:20,099
And you're doing your best to keep me
healthy.

650
00:29:20,099 --> 00:29:20,980
Absolutely.

651
00:29:20,980 --> 00:29:21,740
Absolutely.

652
00:29:21,740 --> 00:29:23,660
And if Jan comes and wants to come out and
see me,

653
00:29:23,660 --> 00:29:25,539
if he ever feels the need to come out and see
me,

654
00:29:25,539 --> 00:29:27,099
I'd be happy to take care of him as well.

655
00:29:27,099 --> 00:29:28,139
Brooke, thank you so much.

656
00:29:28,140 --> 00:29:31,300
So with that, let's bring our viewers over to
Ginger Hill

657
00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:34,820
Angus and see how a proper roundup is done.

658
00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:40,100
Thanks for coming down, Robert.

659
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:42,420
Today, as you know, we're at Ginger Hill
Angus,

660
00:29:42,420 --> 00:29:44,540
and we're having our annual herd health day.

661
00:29:44,540 --> 00:29:47,300
We'll run every cow and calf through the
shoot.

662
00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:50,180
The cows will be vaccinated and pregnancy
tested.

663
00:29:50,180 --> 00:29:53,340
The cows will be vaccinated for viral
diseases

664
00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:56,940
that seem to hit on them in times of stress,

665
00:29:56,940 --> 00:29:59,180
such as weaning, when we'll be weaning in
about a month

666
00:29:59,180 --> 00:30:00,059
from now.

667
00:30:00,059 --> 00:30:04,820
And as you can see, we're out here on a
beautiful day.

668
00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:06,700
It's raining.

669
00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:07,900
That's farming and ranching.

670
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:10,660
You pretty much do it no matter what you're
dealt.

671
00:30:10,660 --> 00:30:11,820
You do deal with it.

672
00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:13,700
The cows don't mind, and the grass doesn't
mind.

673
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:15,660
No, the grass is loving it.

674
00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:17,460
I think what's amazing is that you've

675
00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:20,539
got a vet here that's going to be not only
preg checking,

676
00:30:20,539 --> 00:30:22,620
but sexing those cows in utero.

677
00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:23,380
Yes, yes.

678
00:30:23,380 --> 00:30:24,140
In real time.

679
00:30:24,140 --> 00:30:24,660
Yes.

680
00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:25,980
I had no idea you could do that.

681
00:30:26,980 --> 00:30:29,700
It's pretty amazing what they can do.

682
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:31,140
He has an ultrasound probe.

683
00:30:31,140 --> 00:30:33,420
He doesn't even have to stick his arm.

684
00:30:33,420 --> 00:30:35,620
It used to be you have to stick your arm up

685
00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:39,380
in the cow's rectal area and feel through the
rectal wall

686
00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:43,579
and feel the size of the calf and to get the
pregnancy

687
00:30:43,579 --> 00:30:44,180
date on it.

688
00:30:44,180 --> 00:30:46,579
And he's got an ultrasound probe that does
all that,

689
00:30:46,579 --> 00:30:47,980
and he just has to interpret it.

690
00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:49,579
So let's go see what they're doing.

691
00:30:49,579 --> 00:30:54,659
Here at Ginger Hill Angus, this is definitely
a family affair.

692
00:30:54,659 --> 00:30:57,379
Eddie, who's not here right now, works here
five days a week

693
00:30:57,379 --> 00:31:00,259
pretty much and takes care of the place while
I'm

694
00:31:00,259 --> 00:31:01,980
at the office.

695
00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:05,579
But Henry, my son, my daughter-in-law, the
children

696
00:31:05,579 --> 00:31:06,899
all pitch in.

697
00:31:06,899 --> 00:31:10,259
We need a lot of help on days like today.

698
00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:13,659
And then we have friends like Blake and Cody,

699
00:31:13,659 --> 00:31:16,139
who pretty much are our friends.

700
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:22,060
And Cody, who pretty much are my kids, too.

701
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:23,460
I adopted them.

702
00:31:23,460 --> 00:31:27,500
So it's a big deal, and I depend on a lot of
people

703
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:30,140
to keep this operation running.

704
00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:35,220
As you can see, this chute is run off
hydraulics.

705
00:31:35,220 --> 00:31:37,220
It's one of the Cadillacs of the business.

706
00:31:37,220 --> 00:31:41,460
Dr. Cummins has had this made specifically
for himself.

707
00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:46,060
And now it holds the catalyzer.

708
00:31:46,059 --> 00:31:49,059
It holds the cow completely still so she's
not injured

709
00:31:49,059 --> 00:31:51,779
and nobody that's working on her is injured.

710
00:31:51,779 --> 00:31:55,379
It's a lot easier than everybody.

711
00:31:55,379 --> 00:31:57,659
How does this whole chute business work?

712
00:31:57,659 --> 00:32:00,460
Well, this is called a bud's box.

713
00:32:00,460 --> 00:32:03,899
It's sort of a low stress handling way to
handle cattle.

714
00:32:03,899 --> 00:32:06,179
You run the cows in here.

715
00:32:06,179 --> 00:32:08,659
They come from these pens out here.

716
00:32:08,659 --> 00:32:11,220
And then when they come in, they want to go
back out

717
00:32:11,220 --> 00:32:13,019
the same way they came.

718
00:32:13,019 --> 00:32:17,500
For some reason, they will file in through
here very easily.

719
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:21,740
And this is an alleyway that is curved.

720
00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:24,539
They seem to work better through a curved
alleyway.

721
00:32:24,539 --> 00:32:27,259
And these are stops when they get past them.

722
00:32:27,259 --> 00:32:30,059
And you see the cow just sort of walks right
through.

723
00:32:30,059 --> 00:32:36,059
And as you notice on the chute, on the
squeeze chute,

724
00:32:36,059 --> 00:32:39,779
he will always open the rear end before he
lets the cow out

725
00:32:39,779 --> 00:32:41,660
because the cow wants to follow her.

726
00:32:41,660 --> 00:32:43,259
And it pushes the forward one out.

727
00:32:43,259 --> 00:32:44,779
Yeah.

728
00:32:44,779 --> 00:32:47,900
They act like they've been through this rodeo
before.

729
00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:49,540
Yeah, they know what they're doing.

730
00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:51,620
The calves, it's a little bit difficult

731
00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:53,540
because some of them will turn around in the
chute

732
00:32:53,540 --> 00:32:56,100
and then you have to get in there and turn
them around.

733
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,100
But the cows pretty much know they've been
through here

734
00:32:59,100 --> 00:32:59,740
before.

735
00:32:59,740 --> 00:33:02,740
And they're acting like it.

736
00:33:02,740 --> 00:33:06,060
We try to handle them in a low stress type
manner.

737
00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:07,940
And if you handle them in a low stress
manner,

738
00:33:07,940 --> 00:33:09,779
they're not going to stress you out.

739
00:33:09,819 --> 00:33:12,539
How many head do you run on this ranch right
now?

740
00:33:12,539 --> 00:33:15,379
Right now, they're about 250 to 300 head of
cattle here.

741
00:33:15,379 --> 00:33:16,660
That includes the calves?

742
00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:17,819
That includes the calves, yes.

743
00:33:17,819 --> 00:33:18,539
OK.

744
00:33:18,539 --> 00:33:22,500
And then they were out here in these fields,
right?

745
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:23,019
Exactly.

746
00:33:23,019 --> 00:33:25,019
And this morning, you ran them in,

747
00:33:25,019 --> 00:33:26,619
and then you separated them.

748
00:33:26,619 --> 00:33:30,740
Well, we incentivize them.

749
00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:34,259
Anytime I want to move them, I always take
them some place.

750
00:33:34,259 --> 00:33:36,339
Like new grass, that's an incentive.

751
00:33:36,339 --> 00:33:39,139
So they'll pretty much come to me when I call
them.

752
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:41,180
You may have to push some stragglers in.

753
00:33:41,180 --> 00:33:44,460
Well, we get them into the barn lot.

754
00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:46,060
We give them a treat.

755
00:33:46,060 --> 00:33:49,180
And so they willingly come in and get the
treat.

756
00:33:49,180 --> 00:33:54,300
So that's just part of being able to handle
250 cows

757
00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:56,220
by yourself with one or two people.

758
00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:57,460
Yeah, so they get grain.

759
00:33:57,460 --> 00:33:59,100
Yeah, they get grain when they come in.

760
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:00,740
That's the only time they get grain.

761
00:34:00,740 --> 00:34:03,180
Generally, we're just a grass and hay
operation

762
00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:04,220
on the cow herd.

763
00:34:04,220 --> 00:34:07,660
They get what Mother Nature supplies.

764
00:34:07,660 --> 00:34:10,460
When did you breed all these cows?

765
00:34:10,460 --> 00:34:11,940
We started breeding them.

766
00:34:11,940 --> 00:34:14,099
We turned bulls out, and we started
artificially

767
00:34:14,099 --> 00:34:15,940
inseminating around the 1st of December.

768
00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:17,740
They all don't get bred on the first service.

769
00:34:17,740 --> 00:34:19,019
Most of them do, thank goodness.

770
00:34:19,019 --> 00:34:20,619
That's one of our selection criteria

771
00:34:20,619 --> 00:34:23,579
is to have cows that calve in a small calving
window

772
00:34:23,579 --> 00:34:24,180
in a bunch.

773
00:34:24,180 --> 00:34:26,619
The cows cycle every 21 days.

774
00:34:26,619 --> 00:34:31,460
So right now, they're pretty much, they've
all taken.

775
00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:33,139
We're hopeful.

776
00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:34,780
That's what Dr. Cummings is going to tell us,

777
00:34:34,780 --> 00:34:38,100
that there are any surprises, that there are
any cows in here

778
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:40,740
that are not pregnant.

779
00:34:40,740 --> 00:34:44,540
And the tagging is absolutely critical, as I
recall.

780
00:34:44,540 --> 00:34:46,700
The USDA requires it, right?

781
00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:48,900
Well, these are our own personal ID tags.

782
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:52,620
Now, these cows do have their own personal
permanent

783
00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:53,900
identification on their side.

784
00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:56,620
It's a freeze brand, where we do this once a
year,

785
00:34:56,620 --> 00:34:58,900
where Cody and Blake and all the kids come,

786
00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:00,900
and we have a big party in the fall.

787
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:03,980
And we freeze brand the yearlings.

788
00:35:04,019 --> 00:35:06,900
So as you notice, they have a number on their
side,

789
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:10,380
and they have our Ginger Hill brand on their
hip.

790
00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:15,179
And that's where you freeze the melanin in
the skin,

791
00:35:15,179 --> 00:35:16,659
and it grows back white.

792
00:35:16,659 --> 00:35:18,980
Yeah, so it's a lot more humane than the old,

793
00:35:18,980 --> 00:35:20,380
oh gosh, yes.

794
00:35:20,380 --> 00:35:23,019
And they also have an electronic ID tag,

795
00:35:23,019 --> 00:35:26,260
so if we want to ship them across state
lines,

796
00:35:26,260 --> 00:35:30,260
the USDA requires that they have permanent
identification.

797
00:35:30,260 --> 00:35:31,099
And they have one of those.

798
00:35:31,099 --> 00:35:33,820
So they use an ear tag instead of a chip, an
injective chip.

799
00:35:34,660 --> 00:35:36,660
Yeah, it's an ear tag that's put in their
ear.

800
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,180
I can pretty much recognize all these cows

801
00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:41,180
without their tags.

802
00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:43,620
I mean, I know them just like I know Robert

803
00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:44,539
and I know Blake.

804
00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:47,700
But we do have permanent tags for other
people

805
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:51,340
that come here or work here so they can
identify them.

806
00:35:51,340 --> 00:35:52,820
We have an ear tag in their ear.

807
00:35:52,820 --> 00:35:55,059
If you're looking head on, you can't see
their side.

808
00:35:55,059 --> 00:35:56,620
And then we also have a brand on their side

809
00:35:56,620 --> 00:35:57,460
that you can see.

810
00:35:57,460 --> 00:35:59,539
So this was a cow that was open.

811
00:35:59,539 --> 00:36:01,220
She's 12 years old.

812
00:36:01,220 --> 00:36:03,380
She slipped her calf last fall,

813
00:36:03,940 --> 00:36:04,780
and she was such a good cow.

814
00:36:04,780 --> 00:36:06,780
I kept her around to breed,

815
00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:08,340
but there's obviously something wrong with
her

816
00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:11,180
reproductively, so she has reached the end

817
00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:13,180
of her productive life.

818
00:36:13,180 --> 00:36:15,820
Tell me about why people ought to get

819
00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:20,380
Ginger Hill beef and locally produced beef.

820
00:36:20,380 --> 00:36:21,740
Well, that's a good question.

821
00:36:21,740 --> 00:36:24,700
With the shortages that we saw with the
COVID-19 pandemic

822
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:26,539
on beef in the grocery store,

823
00:36:26,539 --> 00:36:28,300
it made everybody completely aware

824
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:31,539
that there is a problem with our distribution
chain.

825
00:36:31,539 --> 00:36:33,699
We have a big monopoly in the cattle business

826
00:36:34,739 --> 00:36:37,059
and in the meat packing business.

827
00:36:37,059 --> 00:36:38,980
And they're squeezing out farmers and
ranchers,

828
00:36:38,980 --> 00:36:42,460
and that is making our food supply not as
abundant.

829
00:36:42,460 --> 00:36:44,179
And I think it's important for people

830
00:36:44,179 --> 00:36:46,779
to try to establish a relationship

831
00:36:46,779 --> 00:36:49,659
with a good local direct source of beef

832
00:36:49,659 --> 00:36:52,219
and not through a commodity source of beef.

833
00:36:52,219 --> 00:36:55,259
So there has been a big movement for people

834
00:36:55,259 --> 00:37:00,139
in urban areas to come out here and meet
ranchers

835
00:37:00,139 --> 00:37:02,139
and shake ranchers' hands and look and see

836
00:37:02,139 --> 00:37:05,059
how the animals are cared for, how they're
grown,

837
00:37:06,059 --> 00:37:09,219
and how wholesome and healthy the food is

838
00:37:09,219 --> 00:37:10,619
and how we take care of the land.

839
00:37:10,619 --> 00:37:13,059
You can figure out what they feed their
cattle,

840
00:37:13,059 --> 00:37:14,179
what they're exposed to,

841
00:37:14,179 --> 00:37:16,299
what vaccines they do and don't get.

842
00:37:16,299 --> 00:37:20,619
Now I know in terms of us deciding to buy
from Ginger Hill,

843
00:37:20,619 --> 00:37:23,099
which we're very glad to do,

844
00:37:23,099 --> 00:37:25,779
for us, it's really reassuring that we know

845
00:37:25,779 --> 00:37:29,099
that you're not giving them a bunch of
hormones

846
00:37:29,139 --> 00:37:32,139
and you're taking care of the animals well.

847
00:37:32,139 --> 00:37:34,299
I mean, you know that as a physician too,

848
00:37:35,179 --> 00:37:38,980
that it's important that the consumer
controls

849
00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:40,860
the nature of the food they're getting.

850
00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:43,380
We're fortunate we live out here in the
country

851
00:37:43,380 --> 00:37:44,659
and we can raise our own beef,

852
00:37:44,659 --> 00:37:47,739
but we also rely on neighbors and other
farmers

853
00:37:47,739 --> 00:37:52,739
for chickens, eggs, pork, and fruits and
vegetables.

854
00:37:52,940 --> 00:37:55,579
For those people that are living in urban
areas,

855
00:37:55,579 --> 00:37:59,460
there are people that do this on a larger
scale

856
00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:00,299
than what we're doing.

857
00:38:00,299 --> 00:38:03,539
We're mainly a breeding stock operation here,

858
00:38:03,539 --> 00:38:05,500
but do it on a larger scale and they ship

859
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:09,539
and they will ship it UPS it or FedEx it
right to your door.

860
00:38:09,539 --> 00:38:11,900
Now, another thing we were talking at the day

861
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:15,219
about the 30 by 30 initiative

862
00:38:15,219 --> 00:38:17,739
and the whole logic underpinning that

863
00:38:17,739 --> 00:38:20,299
that somehow the federal government is gonna
be better

864
00:38:20,299 --> 00:38:24,340
at protecting the land than the ranchers and
farmers are.

865
00:38:24,340 --> 00:38:25,860
I mean, this is a great example.

866
00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:28,860
This has been in your family for generations

867
00:38:28,860 --> 00:38:31,300
and generations and it kind of feels like

868
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:33,220
when we buy beef from you,

869
00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:36,660
we're supporting a whole family
infrastructure of people,

870
00:38:36,660 --> 00:38:39,100
just like we saw running that shoot today.

871
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:41,539
When you buy directly from a farmer or
rancher,

872
00:38:41,539 --> 00:38:43,340
not only are you getting a better product,

873
00:38:43,340 --> 00:38:45,500
but you are supporting his way of life

874
00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:48,340
so that he can continue to grow and produce
food.

875
00:38:48,340 --> 00:38:50,100
I mean, this is where we live

876
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,539
and I mean, you can look at the quality of
the pastures.

877
00:38:52,539 --> 00:38:54,420
You can tell it's been well cared for

878
00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:57,179
and these cattle are part of that whole
process.

879
00:38:57,179 --> 00:38:59,179
They are part of the ecosystem

880
00:38:59,179 --> 00:39:01,219
and their hooves break up the soil

881
00:39:01,219 --> 00:39:04,980
and they eat the grass and they prevent the
weeds

882
00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:05,820
and they fertilize.

883
00:39:05,820 --> 00:39:06,820
And they fertilize.

884
00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:11,259
So Brooke, thanks a lot for having us out
here today

885
00:39:11,259 --> 00:39:14,860
and letting us film this whole little
operation

886
00:39:14,860 --> 00:39:19,860
and I look forward to seeing you next week
here on Fallout.

887
00:39:19,860 --> 00:39:23,400
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