1 00:00:00,179 --> 00:00:03,540 welcome and welcome back thank you for 2 00:00:03,540 --> 00:00:06,240 tuning in for today's show and I've got 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,179 a great show for you today I am being 4 00:00:09,179 --> 00:00:12,120 joined for the third time by Janice 5 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:14,759 McAfee she is the Widow of the late 6 00:00:14,759 --> 00:00:18,060 great John McAfee now before we proceed 7 00:00:18,060 --> 00:00:19,740 with today's interview 8 00:00:19,740 --> 00:00:21,720 if you have not watched the first two 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,240 interviews that I did with Janice I will 10 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:25,500 have them Linked In the video 11 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:28,320 description and the pinned comment I 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,820 encourage you to take an opportunity 13 00:00:29,820 --> 00:00:32,520 watch those two interviews before 14 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,790 proceeding with today's video 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:50,960 [Music] 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,110 thank you 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,120 all right ladies and gentlemen today I 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,620 had the honor and privilege of being 19 00:00:58,620 --> 00:01:00,780 rejoined for the third time by Miss 20 00:01:00,780 --> 00:01:03,120 Janice McAfee most you should know her 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,519 she is the Widow of John McAfee we're 22 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:06,659 going to be talking about everything 23 00:01:06,659 --> 00:01:08,580 that's been going on since the last time 24 00:01:08,580 --> 00:01:10,979 we talked to Janice before we started 25 00:01:10,979 --> 00:01:12,840 recording I didn't tell you this because 26 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,159 I wanted to wait till we started 27 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:15,780 recording to share this information with 28 00:01:15,780 --> 00:01:18,180 you but the last time that we did an 29 00:01:18,180 --> 00:01:20,040 interview and we're recording this on 30 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,080 September 1st we had to reschedule from 31 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,020 yesterday uh which was the 31st of 32 00:01:25,020 --> 00:01:27,540 August the last time I interviewed you 33 00:01:27,540 --> 00:01:30,659 was on August 30th last year 34 00:01:30,659 --> 00:01:34,680 and I released the interview August 31st 35 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,140 and that was ironically the day that we 36 00:01:37,140 --> 00:01:38,579 were scheduled to do the interview I 37 00:01:38,579 --> 00:01:40,439 just thought the timing was because I 38 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:42,420 did two interviews with John during the 39 00:01:42,420 --> 00:01:43,560 month of August 40 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,020 as well and I just thought like it was 41 00:01:46,020 --> 00:01:47,820 just really crazy because you know I've 42 00:01:47,820 --> 00:01:49,560 been trying to get in touch with you 43 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,180 and I you I know you had to take a 44 00:01:51,180 --> 00:01:52,680 little time out a little mental break 45 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,720 which I completely understand I'm sure 46 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,180 everybody else does as well considering 47 00:01:57,180 --> 00:01:59,540 everything that you've been dealing with 48 00:01:59,540 --> 00:02:02,939 since Going On The Run and what 49 00:02:02,939 --> 00:02:05,460 tragically happened to John so 50 00:02:05,460 --> 00:02:08,459 here we are a little after a little two 51 00:02:08,459 --> 00:02:11,039 years after his his uh death 52 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:13,739 um is what I'll call it and we're 53 00:02:13,739 --> 00:02:17,459 talking about June 23rd 2021 54 00:02:17,459 --> 00:02:20,160 and um the last time that you had come 55 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,620 on the show we had talked about the 56 00:02:22,620 --> 00:02:25,319 Netflix documentary that came out and 57 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:27,480 the first time that you came on we had 58 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,340 talked about from your perspective 59 00:02:29,340 --> 00:02:32,879 everything that had occurred so one if 60 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:34,860 people watching this video if you have 61 00:02:34,860 --> 00:02:36,720 not seen the interviews that I the first 62 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,400 two interviews that I did with Janice 63 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,599 they're going to be linked in a video 64 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:42,000 description and a pinned comment I 65 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,220 encourage you watch those interviews 66 00:02:44,220 --> 00:02:46,560 before you watch this we're not going to 67 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,540 try to rehash too much of what we 68 00:02:48,540 --> 00:02:49,800 actually talked about in those two 69 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,120 interviews and those two interviews 70 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,879 cover a lot of information so be sure to 71 00:02:53,879 --> 00:02:55,379 check those out 72 00:02:55,379 --> 00:02:57,239 so Jan is the last time we talked though 73 00:02:57,239 --> 00:02:58,620 John's 74 00:02:58,620 --> 00:03:00,480 um Bonnie still hadn't been released uh 75 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,280 and autopsy hadn't been released you 76 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,500 were dealing with some Court proceedings 77 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:06,780 to try to get that to happen again today 78 00:03:06,780 --> 00:03:09,120 is the September the 1st what kind of 79 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,099 update can you share with us with what's 80 00:03:11,099 --> 00:03:13,080 going on with the release of John's body 81 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,360 and with the autopsy 82 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,400 right okay so 83 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,739 um here in Spain the the court system 84 00:03:19,739 --> 00:03:22,140 that they go on on a break for the month 85 00:03:22,140 --> 00:03:24,360 of August so the judges lawyers 86 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,280 everybody takes a break for the month of 87 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,080 August but not just the court system 88 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,180 that it's just sort of a national 89 00:03:30,180 --> 00:03:32,280 holiday month 90 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,980 um here in Spain and so um business 91 00:03:34,980 --> 00:03:37,019 professionals I guess take the month off 92 00:03:37,019 --> 00:03:39,000 anyways 93 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,540 um so on July 31st which is the day 94 00:03:42,540 --> 00:03:45,420 before obviously August the the court 95 00:03:45,420 --> 00:03:48,540 actually gave their decision that they 96 00:03:48,540 --> 00:03:50,519 were not going to release the autopsy 97 00:03:50,519 --> 00:03:52,860 report because they feel like all of the 98 00:03:52,860 --> 00:03:55,860 procedures were followed and there's no 99 00:03:55,860 --> 00:03:58,200 need for them to give that information 100 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,879 out 101 00:03:59,879 --> 00:04:02,640 um which according to what I'm I've been 102 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,920 told from my attorney is it's not 103 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,480 necessarily illegal but it's strange 104 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,159 because when 105 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:10,200 um an autopsy report is requested it's 106 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,659 given like there's usually no problem 107 00:04:12,659 --> 00:04:15,420 with it being given and so the fact that 108 00:04:15,420 --> 00:04:18,120 it's that it's not been given it's 109 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,979 obviously very concerning and it 110 00:04:19,979 --> 00:04:23,280 obviously raises is a lot of great Flags 111 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:26,040 um and it raises a lot of concern 112 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,080 um because if this was just an open and 113 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,139 shut suicide as as it's been reported as 114 00:04:31,139 --> 00:04:32,820 they're telling me that I need to trust 115 00:04:32,820 --> 00:04:35,340 that that's what has happened then why 116 00:04:35,340 --> 00:04:37,020 not just release the paperwork so that I 117 00:04:37,020 --> 00:04:38,940 can know that that's what happened you 118 00:04:38,940 --> 00:04:40,440 know I'm not trying to contest anything 119 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,080 I just want to know what happened and I 120 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,380 don't want a um I don't want to have to 121 00:04:46,380 --> 00:04:48,960 trust these people's work I don't know 122 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,699 them I don't know them from a can of 123 00:04:50,699 --> 00:04:52,440 pain like I don't know if they're lying 124 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,600 you know I don't know if something else 125 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,979 happened to him and they're trying to 126 00:04:55,979 --> 00:04:58,080 hide that I don't even know if they 127 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,000 actually even did an autopsy report and 128 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,440 they just said oh this is how he died 129 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,940 and and put that on the death 130 00:05:02,940 --> 00:05:04,919 certificate I don't know 131 00:05:04,919 --> 00:05:07,680 and so the only way to answer those 132 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,060 questions or the best way to answer 133 00:05:09,060 --> 00:05:11,280 those questions would be just to give me 134 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:13,620 the autopsy report I've gotten every 135 00:05:13,620 --> 00:05:15,479 other piece of paperwork since you know 136 00:05:15,479 --> 00:05:17,520 since he died so I don't understand why 137 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:18,960 this is the only thing that's not being 138 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,960 released and so um 139 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,180 like I said right before they went to go 140 00:05:24,180 --> 00:05:26,280 on on vacation they released their 141 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:28,199 decision to not release the autopsy 142 00:05:28,199 --> 00:05:29,580 report 143 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:32,100 um and so what this means then moving 144 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:34,919 forward is I apparently I've appealed to 145 00:05:34,919 --> 00:05:37,020 the highest court in this land and 146 00:05:37,020 --> 00:05:39,900 there's no other uh legal options that I 147 00:05:39,900 --> 00:05:42,660 can take so what's going to happen once 148 00:05:42,660 --> 00:05:45,060 the courts come off a vacation is we're 149 00:05:45,060 --> 00:05:47,100 going to put in an application to 150 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:49,320 collect his remains finally because now 151 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,419 his remains can be released because the 152 00:05:51,419 --> 00:05:56,039 court was keeping custody of his remains 153 00:05:56,039 --> 00:05:58,320 while this process was going on and so 154 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,220 now um that this is over hopefully I 155 00:06:02,220 --> 00:06:03,960 should be 156 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,840 um not held up any longer in collecting 157 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:08,400 as you need 158 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,280 okay and you and so you're thinking 159 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:13,380 that'll happen within the next the next 160 00:06:13,380 --> 00:06:15,300 week or two that you'll be able to put 161 00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:18,060 that that request in and hopefully be 162 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:20,039 able to leave Spain ultimately because 163 00:06:20,039 --> 00:06:21,900 you've been staying in Spain waiting for 164 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:23,220 the release of 165 00:06:23,220 --> 00:06:25,680 your husband's remains unfortunately 166 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,660 yes I have 167 00:06:27,660 --> 00:06:29,699 I'm thinking within the next week or so 168 00:06:29,699 --> 00:06:31,500 hopefully the request will be put in 169 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:33,240 well not hopefully the Practical people 170 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,160 will be put in but they'll be back in 171 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,400 session and the request will be put in 172 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,520 once they're back in session and and 173 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,740 things will move forward however quickly 174 00:06:43,740 --> 00:06:46,620 or probably slowly as it has been moving 175 00:06:46,620 --> 00:06:48,060 so um 176 00:06:48,060 --> 00:06:50,039 I doubt that this will be another year 177 00:06:50,039 --> 00:06:51,900 or two or I'll be sitting here waiting 178 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:54,120 to collect his remains but it is Spain 179 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,220 they do tend to take their time about 180 00:06:56,220 --> 00:06:59,520 things so um so we'll see 181 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,919 well I mean I I you know I don't feel 182 00:07:01,919 --> 00:07:03,180 like I have to say it but definitely 183 00:07:03,180 --> 00:07:05,460 keep me up to date with what's going on 184 00:07:05,460 --> 00:07:07,620 um and if we have some success with this 185 00:07:07,620 --> 00:07:08,819 and you want to come back on the show 186 00:07:08,819 --> 00:07:11,280 The the invitation is always open 187 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,419 um especially if you want to share 188 00:07:12,419 --> 00:07:15,240 information about how people can get 189 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,880 involved with this celebration of of 190 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,620 John because I know ultimately that's 191 00:07:19,620 --> 00:07:21,000 what you're going to do for some closure 192 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,380 we talked about that in the previous 193 00:07:22,380 --> 00:07:24,599 episodes 194 00:07:24,599 --> 00:07:26,759 um real quick I guess there's no point 195 00:07:26,759 --> 00:07:29,400 in having people sign the change.org 196 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,020 petition anymore then 197 00:07:31,020 --> 00:07:35,400 no no not anymore okay okay so I'll keep 198 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,460 people as up to date um I'm sharing what 199 00:07:38,460 --> 00:07:40,319 I'm screen sharing here is uh just the 200 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:43,199 the actual macv playlist which includes 201 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:44,460 everything that I've done on my channel 202 00:07:44,460 --> 00:07:46,139 in regards to John which includes the 203 00:07:46,139 --> 00:07:48,539 two interviews with you and also Mark 204 00:07:48,539 --> 00:07:50,819 Eglinton who wrote 205 00:07:50,819 --> 00:07:53,099 um no domain the dangerous life of John 206 00:07:53,099 --> 00:07:54,360 McAfee 207 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,919 um so I encourage people to check this 208 00:07:55,919 --> 00:07:57,960 out and then I'm also going to be making 209 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,639 sure that I share Down Below in the 210 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:02,400 video description Janice's Twitter 211 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,720 account I'm still going to call it 212 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Twitter I'm not using this x stuff so 213 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,000 you guys can follow Janice on on Twitter 214 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,680 to keep up to date 215 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,599 um Janice and the foundation I believe 216 00:08:12,599 --> 00:08:14,580 have control of John's Twitter account 217 00:08:14,580 --> 00:08:16,680 so you can also stay up to date with 218 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,720 John's Twitter and then I will have a 219 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,940 link for the foundation 220 00:08:20,940 --> 00:08:22,080 um I don't know if you want to talk a 221 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,160 little bit more about the foundation 222 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,139 here towards the end I do if you're if 223 00:08:25,139 --> 00:08:26,400 you're cool with that I would like to 224 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,460 talk about the foundation but 225 00:08:28,460 --> 00:08:30,780 to rewind 226 00:08:30,780 --> 00:08:32,990 um 227 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,620 if we if we go back to the first 228 00:08:34,620 --> 00:08:37,680 interview that you and I did the big 229 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:39,360 problem that a lot of people are having 230 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,520 and the confusion is that the Spanish 231 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,200 authorities said 232 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,380 that John ended his own life I'm trying 233 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:47,640 to be really careful with the words with 234 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,940 the algorithm here and but John was very 235 00:08:50,940 --> 00:08:52,260 very adamant 236 00:08:52,260 --> 00:08:56,339 and saying to people that he had no 237 00:08:56,339 --> 00:08:58,320 intentions of doing anything like that 238 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,560 and got a tattoo the whack tattoo so 239 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:04,560 with with the Spanish authorities 240 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:06,959 taking so long with this not knowing 241 00:09:06,959 --> 00:09:09,480 what the condition of the body is if 242 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,920 they've even done something with the 243 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:11,820 body 244 00:09:11,820 --> 00:09:12,600 um 245 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,660 if the body is uh and I hate asking 246 00:09:15,660 --> 00:09:17,339 questions like this but if if everything 247 00:09:17,339 --> 00:09:18,480 is 248 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,360 uh was taken care of properly in a 249 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,360 medical fashion do you have any plans to 250 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,959 try to explore a private autopsy in any 251 00:09:27,959 --> 00:09:30,889 capacity 252 00:09:30,899 --> 00:09:34,310 um 253 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,880 time it's been it doesn't really make 254 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,440 sense 255 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,760 um 256 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,580 from that standpoint then we have the 257 00:09:41,580 --> 00:09:43,800 expense standpoint you know if how much 258 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,420 is that going to cost 259 00:09:45,420 --> 00:09:48,720 and and where then does the body have to 260 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,060 be moved to and how long of a process 261 00:09:51,060 --> 00:09:53,220 that's going to be 262 00:09:53,220 --> 00:09:56,100 um mind you I've been here in Spain for 263 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:58,980 two over two years 264 00:09:58,980 --> 00:10:01,440 um waiting you know waiting to put John 265 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,620 duress waiting for all of that so 266 00:10:04,620 --> 00:10:07,019 I I've given it a lot of thought I 267 00:10:07,019 --> 00:10:09,000 haven't arrived at a decision but I just 268 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,640 I will explore the options but I don't 269 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,820 think that I have a 270 00:10:14,820 --> 00:10:17,640 the strength to continue this any 271 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,800 further you know I think 272 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,200 um I think 273 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,800 it would just be um 274 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,019 I think it's just I don't I don't know 275 00:10:28,019 --> 00:10:30,180 you know well I think it's fine I think 276 00:10:30,180 --> 00:10:32,279 it's time to move forward and to lead 277 00:10:32,279 --> 00:10:34,260 John to rest and that's what that's 278 00:10:34,260 --> 00:10:37,019 where my heart is that's where where I'm 279 00:10:37,019 --> 00:10:39,600 looking toward obviously 280 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,959 um there's the idea of you know because 281 00:10:42,959 --> 00:10:45,839 initially that's what I was trying to do 282 00:10:45,839 --> 00:10:47,940 was while I was trying to get their 283 00:10:47,940 --> 00:10:50,100 autopsy report I wanted his remains 284 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:52,620 release so I could do my own 285 00:10:52,620 --> 00:10:55,200 um independent autopsy but because they 286 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,019 refused to release his remains 287 00:10:58,019 --> 00:11:00,300 um while they decided on whether or not 288 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:02,040 to release the autopsy for it I couldn't 289 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,260 do anything you know I couldn't 290 00:11:04,260 --> 00:11:06,060 his remains have been in in their 291 00:11:06,060 --> 00:11:08,519 custody and I couldn't do anything you 292 00:11:08,519 --> 00:11:11,040 know with his remains until they 293 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,180 released his you know right 294 00:11:15,180 --> 00:11:17,459 and I'm I'm even thinking too you know 295 00:11:17,459 --> 00:11:18,959 and this is the reason why why I wanted 296 00:11:18,959 --> 00:11:20,160 to bring it up because I mean if the 297 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,720 Spanish if the Spanish authorities are 298 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,220 basically saying this is what happened 299 00:11:23,220 --> 00:11:25,500 and they're not budging on that it's 300 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:27,899 like if you get a private autopsy and it 301 00:11:27,899 --> 00:11:30,899 says something other than that would be 302 00:11:30,899 --> 00:11:34,140 a an extremely uphill battle 303 00:11:34,140 --> 00:11:36,480 because then it would be uh you having 304 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,019 to take on the Spanish jail the people 305 00:11:40,019 --> 00:11:42,660 who did the autopsy and I know that that 306 00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:45,540 wouldn't be a um a pretty process so and 307 00:11:45,540 --> 00:11:46,800 I know you've already been through a lot 308 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,480 because that's the other thing that I 309 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,579 want to mention is that you know not 310 00:11:50,579 --> 00:11:52,019 only have you just been dealing with 311 00:11:52,019 --> 00:11:53,339 this trauma 312 00:11:53,339 --> 00:11:55,500 of what happened you know to John him 313 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:57,480 being arrested in October of 2020 but 314 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,060 you guys went on the run and you were on 315 00:12:00,060 --> 00:12:01,560 the run with them before that so it's 316 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:03,240 like you've been just kind of like 317 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,040 thrown into the deep end of the pool and 318 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,019 you haven't had a chance to get out 319 00:12:07,019 --> 00:12:09,360 no not really just been trying to 320 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,009 survive yeah 321 00:12:13,019 --> 00:12:15,779 yeah so 322 00:12:15,779 --> 00:12:18,350 um 323 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,180 I just um 324 00:12:21,180 --> 00:12:24,060 so good and it's gone it's all right 325 00:12:24,060 --> 00:12:25,740 it's all right I'll try to help bring it 326 00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:26,519 back 327 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:29,279 um thank you one of the things that me 328 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:32,100 and you had talked about on the the 329 00:12:32,100 --> 00:12:33,779 second interview because of the 330 00:12:33,779 --> 00:12:35,820 documentary that came out about John and 331 00:12:35,820 --> 00:12:38,640 the end of the documentary and um people 332 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,740 within the 333 00:12:40,740 --> 00:12:43,680 the 17th letter Anon movement because 334 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:45,360 again I got to be careful of the uh 335 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,940 YouTube overlords here and because I 336 00:12:47,940 --> 00:12:50,519 want this to go on YouTube 337 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:51,180 um 338 00:12:51,180 --> 00:12:54,300 with that being said uh there's all 339 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:56,760 these conspiracy theories going on about 340 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,220 John and there's a lot of people have 341 00:12:59,220 --> 00:13:02,160 been even like the videos that I 342 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,680 re-released of the interviews that I did 343 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:06,240 with John are still people commenting 344 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,519 that John's alive John's alive there's 345 00:13:08,519 --> 00:13:09,899 all these videos that are coming out 346 00:13:09,899 --> 00:13:12,720 that are definitely old footage the 347 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,120 people aren't saying otherwise or or 348 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,339 leading people in to think that it's new 349 00:13:17,339 --> 00:13:19,860 footage and that it's John showing 350 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:21,180 himself 351 00:13:21,180 --> 00:13:24,180 um you did make a tweet about it uh and 352 00:13:24,180 --> 00:13:25,380 I will put this down in the video 353 00:13:25,380 --> 00:13:27,420 description so people can check this out 354 00:13:27,420 --> 00:13:29,579 and listen to what you had to say on 355 00:13:29,579 --> 00:13:31,800 your on your actual tweet 356 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,380 but I saw an article that was written I 357 00:13:34,380 --> 00:13:36,420 think this is a UK 358 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:38,339 um yeah the independent 359 00:13:38,339 --> 00:13:40,740 and it's John McAfee conspiracy theorist 360 00:13:40,740 --> 00:13:42,779 plague Widow his body remains in custody 361 00:13:42,779 --> 00:13:45,959 now hopefully once you're able to get 362 00:13:45,959 --> 00:13:47,720 John's remains 363 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,339 I I know there's going to be people out 364 00:13:50,339 --> 00:13:51,480 there that are still going to say this 365 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,160 but hopefully the majority of people 366 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,779 will understand it John is no longer 367 00:13:54,779 --> 00:13:55,860 with us 368 00:13:55,860 --> 00:13:58,079 what what would you like to say in 369 00:13:58,079 --> 00:13:59,459 regards to this because I mean I know 370 00:13:59,459 --> 00:14:01,500 it's something that's been bothering you 371 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,120 um 372 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,740 I've been very trying to be very 373 00:14:04,740 --> 00:14:06,959 sympathetic to it what would you like to 374 00:14:06,959 --> 00:14:09,000 say to the people that are 375 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,459 content one the people that are running 376 00:14:11,459 --> 00:14:13,380 these fake Taliban groups and these 377 00:14:13,380 --> 00:14:15,060 social media accounts claiming that it's 378 00:14:15,060 --> 00:14:17,100 John and the people that are actually 379 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:18,779 believing this and thinking that John is 380 00:14:18,779 --> 00:14:21,440 still with us 381 00:14:21,450 --> 00:14:23,639 [Music] 382 00:14:23,639 --> 00:14:27,650 we'll just read we 383 00:14:27,660 --> 00:14:30,540 what I said in our interview about this 384 00:14:30,540 --> 00:14:32,519 um if John were alive we would have 385 00:14:32,519 --> 00:14:35,160 heard from him by now full stop 386 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,399 there there's no reason why after over 387 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:40,820 two years we haven't heard anything 388 00:14:40,820 --> 00:14:44,880 definitive that says hey this is John 389 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,060 and I'm talking about old videos you 390 00:14:48,060 --> 00:14:49,920 know the videos with it where we're in 391 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,720 like a faraday cage where you see the 392 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,180 foil I was with John that was when we 393 00:14:54,180 --> 00:14:56,339 were here in Spain and that was before 394 00:14:56,339 --> 00:14:57,920 he was arrested 395 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,360 we specifically went over that in that 396 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,980 second interview were you where you 397 00:15:01,980 --> 00:15:04,380 pointed out where you were in and 398 00:15:04,380 --> 00:15:06,660 obviously that makes no sense 399 00:15:06,660 --> 00:15:10,970 it's just 400 00:15:10,980 --> 00:15:12,839 just post them you 401 00:15:12,839 --> 00:15:14,699 have the videos that you're seeing 402 00:15:14,699 --> 00:15:16,380 the pictures that you're seeing is share 403 00:15:16,380 --> 00:15:18,540 them with me I will tell you the truth 404 00:15:18,540 --> 00:15:20,639 because there's no one on this planet 405 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:23,180 that wants John to be alive more than me 406 00:15:23,180 --> 00:15:27,660 absolutely no one but I can assure you I 407 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:30,540 would have heard from him by now 408 00:15:30,540 --> 00:15:32,660 full stop 409 00:15:32,660 --> 00:15:36,720 full stop I was for something from him 410 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,260 by now he would have said something he 411 00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:42,360 would have he just would have said 412 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,920 something and I think that the people 413 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,079 that are holding on to this I don't even 414 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:47,519 want to necessarily address them 415 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:49,139 directly because they're still going to 416 00:15:49,139 --> 00:15:51,420 say this even after I get the body even 417 00:15:51,420 --> 00:15:53,820 after it's been like five ten years from 418 00:15:53,820 --> 00:15:55,260 now and we still haven't heard anything 419 00:15:55,260 --> 00:15:56,639 from him people are still going to say 420 00:15:56,639 --> 00:15:58,740 he's alive somewhere with Tupac or with 421 00:15:58,740 --> 00:16:01,019 Elvis in Cuba or whatever Michael 422 00:16:01,019 --> 00:16:03,000 Jackson You Can't Forget Michael Jackson 423 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,699 yeah and Princess Diana and all that 424 00:16:05,699 --> 00:16:07,620 everybody they're just all Bob Denver 425 00:16:07,620 --> 00:16:10,440 John Denver all of them yeah they're 426 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,420 just all giving all 427 00:16:12,420 --> 00:16:14,279 into some secret court and they're 428 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:16,560 taking down the elites and and I just 429 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,660 wish that people would just take us a 430 00:16:18,660 --> 00:16:20,639 beat to stop and think that maybe is it 431 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:22,199 possible that that information you're 432 00:16:22,199 --> 00:16:25,019 being fed is to keep you muzzled is to 433 00:16:25,019 --> 00:16:26,519 keep you from doing anything because 434 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:29,279 obviously you have information obviously 435 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:31,500 you have access to information that may 436 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,180 obviously be vital 437 00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:35,760 you know and maybe that's the point of 438 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,259 it that you guys are sitting around 439 00:16:37,259 --> 00:16:39,540 waiting for some savior to come and save 440 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:40,380 you 441 00:16:40,380 --> 00:16:42,000 and you're sitting on this information 442 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,180 and and maybe you're being duped you 443 00:16:45,180 --> 00:16:48,300 know you sound like me John had a lot to 444 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:50,399 say about that 17th letter of the 445 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:53,579 alphabet organization and and um you 446 00:16:53,579 --> 00:16:55,079 know think what he shared with me 447 00:16:55,079 --> 00:16:56,759 privately is that he thought it was a 448 00:16:56,759 --> 00:16:58,860 psyop and he told me not to get too too 449 00:16:58,860 --> 00:17:01,320 deeply involved with it 450 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,220 and oh she just got okay let me get you 451 00:17:05,220 --> 00:17:07,439 back in there we are you somehow you 452 00:17:07,439 --> 00:17:10,500 bounced out and bounced back in 453 00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:17,990 okay but um 454 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,160 but movement yeah they're called they're 455 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:30,169 Kool-Aid 456 00:17:30,179 --> 00:17:32,820 but maybe you guys are are just 457 00:17:32,820 --> 00:17:35,220 you know missing the point maybe and and 458 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:37,500 maybe maybe you're just too deeply 459 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:39,900 involved to to see that 460 00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:42,240 maybe you're being duped and maybe 461 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,620 you're being 462 00:17:43,620 --> 00:17:47,340 um controlled to to sit on your hands 463 00:17:47,340 --> 00:17:49,200 because maybe you actually have the 464 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,840 power to do something about about things 465 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,400 and because you're sitting around 466 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,000 waiting for this this 17th letter savior 467 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,100 to come and save you or whether it's 468 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:01,020 Trump I don't know if it's still trumps 469 00:18:01,020 --> 00:18:02,220 that's supposed to be the grand sound 470 00:18:02,220 --> 00:18:03,840 like you spent a lot of time with John 471 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,770 McAfee 472 00:18:06,780 --> 00:18:08,700 um I say to people we are the problem 473 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:10,620 and we are the solution and when it 474 00:18:10,620 --> 00:18:13,620 comes to what you said uh the whole 17th 475 00:18:13,620 --> 00:18:15,480 letter movement was talking about trust 476 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,059 a plan and My Philosophy was if there is 477 00:18:18,059 --> 00:18:19,980 a plan I'm not going to trust it I'm 478 00:18:19,980 --> 00:18:23,460 going to help it along because we can't 479 00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:26,340 we can't we cannot one put Faith in 480 00:18:26,340 --> 00:18:28,799 someone else to save us because we you 481 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:32,100 said it exactly we have what we need to 482 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:34,260 save ourselves and that is our cells and 483 00:18:34,260 --> 00:18:36,539 each other we just had to get past like 484 00:18:36,539 --> 00:18:38,940 all this Division and all these things 485 00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:41,700 that have caused us as human beings to 486 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:43,200 be separated from one another whether 487 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,260 it's color gender whatever politics 488 00:18:46,260 --> 00:18:47,400 there's so many different things 489 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,720 religion there's so many different 490 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,160 things that come into play that divide 491 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,340 us and if we can get past that we have 492 00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:56,100 what we need and you know I'm it's good 493 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:59,650 to hear that wisdom coming out 494 00:18:59,660 --> 00:19:02,039 and I'm glad that you're keeping that 495 00:19:02,039 --> 00:19:06,610 you're helping to keep um 496 00:19:06,620 --> 00:19:09,120 all the time I tell him you know listen 497 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:10,980 it may look like I'm not listening or 498 00:19:10,980 --> 00:19:12,539 paying attention but I'm like a sponge 499 00:19:12,539 --> 00:19:15,240 you know I'm soaking it all in and and 500 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,000 when the time comes you know I probably 501 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,700 will sound a lot more like him 502 00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:23,280 right which is a good thing because I I 503 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,080 do want to carry on 504 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:25,799 um 505 00:19:25,799 --> 00:19:28,559 not necessarily his legacy but his 506 00:19:28,559 --> 00:19:31,380 messaging a freedom pride of privacy and 507 00:19:31,380 --> 00:19:34,260 Technology that's what he stood for and 508 00:19:34,260 --> 00:19:36,120 and we're losing that 509 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:38,220 we're losing that because we're we're 510 00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:40,320 just sitting around trusting some bland 511 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,679 or or we've got our heads dug in the 512 00:19:43,679 --> 00:19:45,720 sand we're just like you know I'm just 513 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,419 gonna ignore the the fires that's 514 00:19:48,419 --> 00:19:51,360 happening around me or we're continuing 515 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:53,220 to do the same things expecting 516 00:19:53,220 --> 00:19:56,100 different results so so either way we're 517 00:19:56,100 --> 00:19:59,280 we're all operating in a degree of 518 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,100 insanity you know and it's time to just 519 00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:04,500 sort of wake up from that you know and 520 00:20:04,500 --> 00:20:06,960 like you said we are the problem but we 521 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,520 are also the solution 522 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,340 and and once we once we understand that 523 00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:13,860 then maybe we can start to move the 524 00:20:13,860 --> 00:20:17,460 needle in a Direction Where We can 525 00:20:17,460 --> 00:20:20,460 I don't know we're at least where we can 526 00:20:20,460 --> 00:20:23,160 we can ward off this dystopian future 527 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,500 that is imminent or at least appears to 528 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:26,580 be imminent 529 00:20:26,580 --> 00:20:28,140 I think we're getting more and more 530 00:20:28,140 --> 00:20:30,299 people waking up and you know there's a 531 00:20:30,299 --> 00:20:32,700 possibly some more events that could be 532 00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:34,799 happening in the near future that I 533 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:37,080 think will wake up those that aren't 534 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,400 awake you're always going to have some 535 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,120 sheep but I think the the the 536 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:43,440 non-sheeper going to outnumber the Sheep 537 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,419 uh appear pretty soon especially if a 538 00:20:45,419 --> 00:20:46,260 lot of the things they've been 539 00:20:46,260 --> 00:20:50,100 speculating potentially happening again 540 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:52,380 uh could be uh definitely that that 541 00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:54,059 Catalyst and also the other thing I want 542 00:20:54,059 --> 00:20:55,799 to remind people is in 543 00:20:55,799 --> 00:20:58,500 in my final interview with John I asked 544 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:00,720 him about the 17th letter and he did say 545 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,080 what you said psya so if people want 546 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,640 that you know they need to go back and 547 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,020 check out those interviews they're not 548 00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:09,539 released with John because I that I had 549 00:21:09,539 --> 00:21:11,220 asked John so many serious questions 550 00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:13,380 throughout six interviews that number 551 00:21:13,380 --> 00:21:15,720 seven was just fun it was like what is a 552 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,580 date what is a date what is a typical 553 00:21:17,580 --> 00:21:20,400 day of John McAfee like and asking them 554 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,240 about 555 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,919 um I think we talked about psychedelics 556 00:21:22,919 --> 00:21:26,039 and time travel we talked about the 17th 557 00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:27,960 letter movement uh so it was a really 558 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,340 interesting it was one of my favorite 559 00:21:29,340 --> 00:21:30,659 interviews 560 00:21:30,659 --> 00:21:32,880 yeah so I encourage people to check that 561 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,080 out 562 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,539 a lot of good insight and and just again 563 00:21:36,539 --> 00:21:38,340 about the 17th letter movement you know 564 00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:39,960 I was 565 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,840 in 2020 you know lockdown whatever so we 566 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,120 would smoke weed and then I would just 567 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:46,919 go on Twitter and there would be things 568 00:21:46,919 --> 00:21:49,200 there and it would be interesting and 569 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,380 I'd ask him about the things you know um 570 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:54,360 uh one in particular about Michelle 571 00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:57,059 Obama and so I will not go into that but 572 00:21:57,059 --> 00:21:58,500 what he said no I think I know what 573 00:21:58,500 --> 00:21:59,820 you're talking about 574 00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:02,760 I will say that they that the 575 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,679 information that he said they were 576 00:22:04,679 --> 00:22:07,380 saying was correct and so but this is 577 00:22:07,380 --> 00:22:11,400 just so I'm only saying that to say that 578 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,559 just because this movement has sort of 579 00:22:13,559 --> 00:22:15,659 become this crazy sort of you know 580 00:22:15,659 --> 00:22:18,179 outlandish thing does not necessarily 581 00:22:18,179 --> 00:22:20,880 mean that every all of their information 582 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,580 is just crazy and outlandish and false 583 00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:26,700 right there is some level of Truth to a 584 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:28,260 lot of the information that they have 585 00:22:28,260 --> 00:22:31,320 but some of it is just a little you know 586 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,480 um a little out there Target above the 587 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,299 target is what they say 588 00:22:35,299 --> 00:22:38,340 you're so nice about it 589 00:22:38,340 --> 00:22:40,380 well you know I don't want to be mean to 590 00:22:40,380 --> 00:22:41,760 people right because you believe what 591 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,740 what you believe and sometimes we have 592 00:22:43,740 --> 00:22:45,659 to believe the wrong things to get to 593 00:22:45,659 --> 00:22:47,820 the right thing maybe you know sometimes 594 00:22:47,820 --> 00:22:50,520 we have to be duped to to real to know 595 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,799 when we're being duped to not be duped 596 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:54,659 again you know 597 00:22:54,659 --> 00:22:57,059 um and and that's just you know that's 598 00:22:57,059 --> 00:22:59,520 just life we all learn in different ways 599 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,500 and so I'm not going to demonize them 600 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:03,840 but I'm gonna say you know that maybe 601 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,059 it's time to to 602 00:23:06,059 --> 00:23:08,100 maybe while you're trusting the plan 603 00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:10,380 also also maybe dig a little bit a 604 00:23:10,380 --> 00:23:12,240 little deeper into the plan and May and 605 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,240 maybe what can you do to bring the plan 606 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,340 about right if this you know because 607 00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:18,960 like you were saying earlier just 608 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,580 trusting the plan or trusting someone 609 00:23:20,580 --> 00:23:23,460 else to save you that's just that's just 610 00:23:23,460 --> 00:23:25,200 scary to me and people that think that 611 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,840 way are they terrify me because because 612 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,299 who better to keep you safe other than 613 00:23:30,299 --> 00:23:32,400 yourself who's going to care about you 614 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,700 better than you literally no one well 615 00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:38,340 guys this whole this whole thing is 616 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:40,440 when we talk about a sciopto too like 617 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,179 this whole thing if you look at if you 618 00:23:42,179 --> 00:23:43,799 if you're bored and you want to look 619 00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:45,720 into the Bolshevik Revolution you can 620 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,460 see a lot of similarities between the 621 00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:48,960 psyop and what happened with the 622 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,940 Bolshevik Revolution 623 00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:52,620 because a lot of people in in that 624 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:55,140 situation were trusting a plan and then 625 00:23:55,140 --> 00:23:55,980 um 626 00:23:55,980 --> 00:23:58,440 the complete opposite took place so it's 627 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,120 you know 628 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:01,500 and if you want to put out any 629 00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:03,240 information like and you want it to be 630 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,980 taken seriously whether you're putting 631 00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:06,780 out misinformation or not you got to mix 632 00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:08,520 in truth so that's where it takes 633 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,860 discernment researching thinking for 634 00:24:10,860 --> 00:24:12,659 yourself using critical thinking and 635 00:24:12,659 --> 00:24:14,100 kind of going that extra mile and not 636 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:15,240 just believing something because 637 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:22,090 somebody said it 638 00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:24,480 and obviously we want someone to come 639 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,820 and make it all better you know come and 640 00:24:26,820 --> 00:24:28,140 kiss the boo boos and make everything 641 00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:30,059 right but that's not the world that we 642 00:24:30,059 --> 00:24:32,580 live in it's just not and we need to get 643 00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:35,159 a grip okay because I think that's a lot 644 00:24:35,159 --> 00:24:37,620 of our problem as well like we're 645 00:24:37,620 --> 00:24:39,120 thinking you know we elect these 646 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:40,740 politicians or I don't even know if 647 00:24:40,740 --> 00:24:42,419 elections are real anymore maybe they're 648 00:24:42,419 --> 00:24:45,480 not but anyways there is a fraction of 649 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,340 the population that's believing the 650 00:24:47,340 --> 00:24:49,260 things that these people are saying 651 00:24:49,260 --> 00:24:51,299 because somebody's voting them they're 652 00:24:51,299 --> 00:24:53,580 they're not all just manufactured votes 653 00:24:53,580 --> 00:24:56,100 right so no you're right the portion of 654 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:57,600 the population that's voting for them 655 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,620 and it's like 656 00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:01,799 you no one's coming to save you right 657 00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:03,780 you have to get up and you have to save 658 00:25:03,780 --> 00:25:05,760 yourself you need to do the things for 659 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,620 yourself or your family to keep yourself 660 00:25:07,620 --> 00:25:10,100 safe to keep your freedoms right 661 00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:12,179 nobody's gonna make sure that you stay 662 00:25:12,179 --> 00:25:14,220 free especially after I look at the big 663 00:25:14,220 --> 00:25:16,380 the big um 664 00:25:16,380 --> 00:25:18,659 a paragraph that they went for with 665 00:25:18,659 --> 00:25:21,480 covet you know that's scary too because 666 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,220 when they roll up next thing because 667 00:25:23,220 --> 00:25:25,260 it's not an if it's a win they roll out 668 00:25:25,260 --> 00:25:26,760 the next thing it's going to be even 669 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,740 worse well there's already talks about 670 00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:30,120 it that's what I was mentioning there's 671 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:32,460 already talks about it like it happening 672 00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:34,500 and here in Spain they were I'm sure 673 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:36,000 this happened in a lot of places but 674 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,500 here in Spain they were actually turning 675 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:40,500 in their neighbors like also like if you 676 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:42,840 had there was someone um a friend of 677 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,340 mine was telling me that there was a 678 00:25:44,340 --> 00:25:46,020 woman who lived in this certain Village 679 00:25:46,020 --> 00:25:49,260 right and if she went across the street 680 00:25:49,260 --> 00:25:50,820 to the grocery store that would be her 681 00:25:50,820 --> 00:25:53,400 leaving her region and so she actually 682 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,880 did and they fined her like 500 that's 683 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,860 insane are people calling the cops or 684 00:25:58,860 --> 00:26:01,620 their neighbors because and that sort of 685 00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:03,500 level of just 686 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:06,240 compliance it was just it was just scary 687 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,460 to me you know I get it you don't know 688 00:26:08,460 --> 00:26:10,140 what's happening it's your health you 689 00:26:10,140 --> 00:26:12,779 don't want to die okay but you take care 690 00:26:12,779 --> 00:26:15,179 of you you don't worry about me I'll 691 00:26:15,179 --> 00:26:17,640 take care of me you know you take care 692 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,200 of you I'll take care of me we weren't 693 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,600 talking about the bubonic the Bubonic 694 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,640 plague plague whatever I'm trying to say 695 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,360 yeah I think you got it right but 696 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:28,919 um it just 697 00:26:28,919 --> 00:26:30,960 you know fear does crazy things to 698 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,059 people you know and I'm a testament to 699 00:26:33,059 --> 00:26:35,039 that as well because I was paralyzed in 700 00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:36,960 fear for a long time as well so I do 701 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,340 understand that but that's why I'm 702 00:26:38,340 --> 00:26:41,039 speaking from a from a position of of 703 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,260 you know you have to break free from 704 00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:44,880 that you know you have to break free 705 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,980 from the freedom of what if you know 706 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:49,500 what what if things don't go as I as I 707 00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:51,720 wanted to go or you know but you just 708 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,059 have to break away from that and step 709 00:26:54,059 --> 00:26:56,640 out encourage and say you know what this 710 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,559 is what I know to be right or this is 711 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:01,080 the way that I want my life to go and 712 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,299 and just live in that conviction you 713 00:27:03,299 --> 00:27:05,400 know and follow follow your heart you 714 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,840 know 715 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,320 what you said It reminds me of a 716 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,520 Benjamin Franklin quote and then we'll 717 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,720 kind of move on 718 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,000 um Benjamin Franklin said those who 719 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,620 would give up essential Liberty to 720 00:27:16,620 --> 00:27:18,419 purchase a little temporary safety 721 00:27:18,419 --> 00:27:20,700 dessert and neither Liberty nor safety 722 00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:23,460 yeah if we could just learn from from 723 00:27:23,460 --> 00:27:25,799 like those kind of individuals you know 724 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:27,539 we I think we would progress as a 725 00:27:27,539 --> 00:27:28,860 species but 726 00:27:28,860 --> 00:27:30,299 gotta learn from our mistakes we're 727 00:27:30,299 --> 00:27:32,580 living in that uh Insanity death Loop 728 00:27:32,580 --> 00:27:33,840 right now like you were talking about 729 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,059 doing the same thing over and over again 730 00:27:36,059 --> 00:27:38,220 expecting different results on a loop 731 00:27:38,220 --> 00:27:40,260 and not being able to do anything to 732 00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:42,299 recognize that you're just 733 00:27:42,299 --> 00:27:44,940 self-defeating yourself 734 00:27:44,940 --> 00:27:47,159 exactly it's insane we're not learning 735 00:27:47,159 --> 00:27:48,779 from our history right because those 736 00:27:48,779 --> 00:27:50,400 that don't learn from history are doomed 737 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,500 to repeat it and that's literally what 738 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:54,720 what's happened 739 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,880 so for when the news comes out that 740 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,460 you're able to get John germains this 741 00:27:59,460 --> 00:28:01,140 will be one of the few repeat questions 742 00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:03,179 that I would ask you is what are your 743 00:28:03,179 --> 00:28:07,020 plans for closure for yourself for 744 00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:10,559 family friends and people that have 745 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,659 followed and adored John what what can 746 00:28:12,659 --> 00:28:14,340 we expect once you're able to once 747 00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:15,539 you're able to let people know that you 748 00:28:15,539 --> 00:28:18,179 got his remains 749 00:28:18,179 --> 00:28:20,820 want to have like a big celebration of 750 00:28:20,820 --> 00:28:23,100 his life obviously 751 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,200 um depending on when I can get his 752 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,980 remains so that may be sometime next 753 00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:30,900 year maybe on the anniversary of his 754 00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:32,279 death 755 00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:33,539 um 756 00:28:33,539 --> 00:28:36,120 and um 757 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,039 you know and that would sort of be a 758 00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:41,220 public thing kind of um toying with the 759 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:43,020 idea of whether it should be online or 760 00:28:43,020 --> 00:28:45,120 whether it should be physically in you 761 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,520 know in a location which 762 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,179 um 763 00:28:48,179 --> 00:28:50,039 you know which I'm thinking about maybe 764 00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:52,799 somewhere in in Miami maybe just because 765 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:55,020 that's where we met and so um South 766 00:28:55,020 --> 00:28:57,299 Beach so that's kind of the yeah that's 767 00:28:57,299 --> 00:29:00,120 kind of the idea of 768 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,679 you know and then but we'll have to see 769 00:29:01,679 --> 00:29:04,380 how that goes and how obviously funding 770 00:29:04,380 --> 00:29:07,440 finances is a big part of that as well 771 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,600 um but that's that is the plan that's 772 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,059 what I would love to do I want to do 773 00:29:12,059 --> 00:29:12,960 um 774 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,840 as far as family goes maybe 775 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,640 finally 776 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,679 um 777 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:22,559 I will I'll probably connect with um one 778 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:24,600 of John's family members that that he 779 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,580 was in touch with that I know he had a 780 00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:28,860 relationship with and just kind of give 781 00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:30,480 them an update and let them know what's 782 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,559 happened 783 00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:33,899 um because I've not really reached out 784 00:29:33,899 --> 00:29:36,659 because John really didn't to my 785 00:29:36,659 --> 00:29:38,399 knowledge she didn't really have a lot 786 00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:40,320 of family that he 787 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,020 um was in contact with a lot I I had met 788 00:29:43,020 --> 00:29:44,880 different relatives 789 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,659 um 790 00:29:45,659 --> 00:29:48,299 especially earlier in a relationship but 791 00:29:48,299 --> 00:29:50,700 as far as a constant contact you believe 792 00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:53,039 we have uh one so 793 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:55,799 so that will happen as well 794 00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:58,500 um and as far as closure I you know I 795 00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:00,779 don't I don't know that I can 796 00:30:00,779 --> 00:30:03,659 really have closure from this you know 797 00:30:03,659 --> 00:30:04,260 um 798 00:30:04,260 --> 00:30:06,539 I'll just have to move forward you know 799 00:30:06,539 --> 00:30:09,120 and and what does that look like um 800 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,000 well kind of doing what I'm doing now 801 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,140 obviously there there will be a book 802 00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:15,960 sometime in the future when I'm not sure 803 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,120 but it's definitely something that's on 804 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,799 my mind 805 00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:21,000 um 806 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,340 more interviews maybe more in-depth 807 00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:25,799 interviews once I have his remains I'll 808 00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:27,299 feel a little more 809 00:30:27,299 --> 00:30:32,000 free to to speak about exactly 810 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,399 why I was pursuing the autopsy report 811 00:30:35,399 --> 00:30:37,320 and why 812 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,260 them denying it is even a bigger red 813 00:30:40,260 --> 00:30:42,299 flag in conjunction with the information 814 00:30:42,299 --> 00:30:46,440 that I already have and so um 815 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,039 so yeah once 816 00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:51,539 yeah it doesn't say I can attach what 817 00:30:51,539 --> 00:30:53,539 you're just saying because uh you know 818 00:30:53,539 --> 00:30:55,860 we've had the opportunity of you know 819 00:30:55,860 --> 00:30:58,620 speaking a lot and you I've been 820 00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:00,559 fortunate enough to have you kind of 821 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,240 explain things to me a lot more clearly 822 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,860 than you can say publicly and I 823 00:31:04,860 --> 00:31:07,020 understand why you can't because of the 824 00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:09,720 situation but yeah um I'm looking 825 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,820 forward to you being able to speak 826 00:31:11,820 --> 00:31:13,620 freely about this and not have to hold 827 00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:15,179 back what you're saying and how you're 828 00:31:15,179 --> 00:31:17,700 saying it because of the legalities and 829 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,799 situation that you're dealing with 830 00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:21,539 so I appreciate it I appreciate it I'm 831 00:31:21,539 --> 00:31:24,360 looking for that forward to that as well 832 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,760 um believe it or not I was very relieved 833 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,919 that they came with their decision 834 00:31:28,919 --> 00:31:31,679 obviously disappointed that they didn't 835 00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:33,600 just go ahead and release the the 836 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,880 autopsy because at the end of the day 837 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,080 maybe nothing even happened maybe they 838 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,880 I don't know maybe what they said 839 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,640 happened happened right I doubt that but 840 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,799 I'm just saying Playing devil's advocate 841 00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:48,720 here a little bit maybe that's so why 842 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,000 did his release it's just it's just so 843 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,679 frustrating like just give me the 844 00:31:52,679 --> 00:31:54,360 paperwork you know like I have 845 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,399 everything else well that's what makes 846 00:31:56,399 --> 00:31:58,440 it seem so shady Janice is the fact that 847 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,940 they're not releasing it like that I 848 00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:02,220 mean if if and the fact of what John 849 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:04,140 said in the fact of the saying how he 850 00:32:04,140 --> 00:32:07,380 did it so I get the situation and I I 851 00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:09,840 want to have an open mind as well I mean 852 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,960 like over the past year my brain is like 853 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,440 flip-flop not sure even what to think so 854 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,360 I totally understand why you had to like 855 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,460 take some time for yourself and just 856 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:22,260 like 857 00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:24,720 try to try to get some of this out 858 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,120 I think that was maybe kind of a point 859 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,419 why they wanted to drag this out I don't 860 00:32:30,419 --> 00:32:31,740 know maybe they thought I was just gonna 861 00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:33,779 fold and say you know what screw the 862 00:32:33,779 --> 00:32:35,880 autopsy report you know I'm just just 863 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,340 give me his body so I can go but I 864 00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:39,659 couldn't do that you know once I was 865 00:32:39,659 --> 00:32:40,980 committed it was like okay well it 866 00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:43,020 doesn't make sense to back out now 867 00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:45,120 because what if I can get this paperwork 868 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,460 you know and and obviously if I didn't 869 00:32:47,460 --> 00:32:49,919 do that I could never come back and say 870 00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:52,200 I want it but maybe now that I've done 871 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,419 this this leaves that door open for me 872 00:32:54,419 --> 00:32:55,919 to come back and say you know let's 873 00:32:55,919 --> 00:32:58,020 revisit this now I don't know you know 874 00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:00,539 maybe in the future but um 875 00:33:00,539 --> 00:33:03,779 but the biggest thing though of why you 876 00:33:03,779 --> 00:33:05,159 know the questions is that he was 877 00:33:05,159 --> 00:33:07,500 actually alive when they found him again 878 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:10,200 and and I'm you know I'm not sure if 879 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,000 people even 880 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,519 um remember me saying that or that yeah 881 00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:15,899 well they need to go back and watch that 882 00:33:15,899 --> 00:33:18,419 first interview because we we went into 883 00:33:18,419 --> 00:33:20,880 depth about everything because I mean 884 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,820 again if if what they said happened 885 00:33:23,820 --> 00:33:27,860 then it should read on the autopsy 886 00:33:27,860 --> 00:33:31,080 complications due to attempted something 887 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,059 exactly 888 00:33:33,059 --> 00:33:35,820 but when you're saying he did this but 889 00:33:35,820 --> 00:33:37,919 yet he was alive when he was found but 890 00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:39,840 then died and it just does that's what 891 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,580 I'm saying it doesn't make sense 892 00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:43,980 um I just I feel like 893 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:47,399 I feel like the 894 00:33:47,399 --> 00:33:48,860 the law 895 00:33:48,860 --> 00:33:51,240 was manipulated 896 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,559 and 897 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,260 the truth was hidden from us 898 00:33:54,260 --> 00:33:56,220 unfortunately that's all it comes down 899 00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:59,880 to I I have to in my heart 900 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,760 I know John was 75. I know like he was 901 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,399 like having like you know pains going up 902 00:34:05,399 --> 00:34:07,080 and down stairs and stuff like that but 903 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,359 based off what John said John was a 904 00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:11,159 strong son of a I don't see John 905 00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,619 doing anything opposite of what he said 906 00:34:13,619 --> 00:34:15,480 he would or wouldn't do 907 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,099 no so that's that's how that's how 908 00:34:19,099 --> 00:34:21,720 it was difficult for him there in the 909 00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:24,300 prison but his Spirit he just was a 910 00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:27,419 fighter that's who he was you know um 911 00:34:27,419 --> 00:34:29,760 and we spoke daily so he's Papa America 912 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,619 right 913 00:34:31,619 --> 00:34:33,419 yeah 914 00:34:33,419 --> 00:34:36,240 Papa Americas with the other 915 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:37,320 person so 916 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,960 that's not to say he didn't have issues 917 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,240 you know that's I I don't know and he 918 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:43,679 probably would have never shared that 919 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,599 with me so I wouldn't worry about him 920 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:46,859 but 921 00:34:46,859 --> 00:34:47,520 um 922 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,500 but it didn't sound like a man that had 923 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:51,540 given up he didn't sound like a man that 924 00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:54,060 had lost hope he didn't sound like a man 925 00:34:54,060 --> 00:34:55,859 who felt like he was out of options and 926 00:34:55,859 --> 00:34:58,320 that was his only option you know and 927 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,619 and even if that were the case this the 928 00:35:01,619 --> 00:35:03,060 point still stands that he was found 929 00:35:03,060 --> 00:35:04,220 alive 930 00:35:04,220 --> 00:35:07,320 when they found him in his cell he had a 931 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,700 pulse and a heartbeat 932 00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:11,700 so if the heartbeat but he was breathing 933 00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:12,980 is close 934 00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:15,359 and again I just really want people to 935 00:35:15,359 --> 00:35:16,800 go back and watch those interviews if 936 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,119 you haven't watched them because it will 937 00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:20,460 fill in the blanks with all this I mean 938 00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:21,000 um 939 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000 I tortured Janice on that interview uh 940 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,040 and it was torture for me to torture her 941 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,839 so you guys need to watch it because 942 00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:29,160 there's a lot of really important 943 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,599 information now one of the things that 944 00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:32,760 we've talked about too Janice is 945 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,740 you're you're gonna you're on a mission 946 00:35:34,740 --> 00:35:37,680 still to keep John's Legacy alive 947 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,839 um is it cool to talk about the 948 00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:42,230 foundation 949 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,880 um yeah so the foundation we started the 950 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,060 John McAfee Foundation 951 00:35:46,060 --> 00:35:47,700 [Music] 952 00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:48,780 um 953 00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:51,720 not long after John died well the idea 954 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:54,240 of it was birth not long after he died 955 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,780 and we've kind of been 956 00:35:57,780 --> 00:36:00,359 um with without having Capital we've 957 00:36:00,359 --> 00:36:02,160 kind of just been building the 958 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,619 foundation of the foundation 959 00:36:04,619 --> 00:36:06,540 kind of getting 960 00:36:06,540 --> 00:36:07,500 um 961 00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:09,240 our 962 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:10,740 um I don't want to say talking points 963 00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:12,900 but just trying to get they found the 964 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:14,880 the idea of what the foundation is 965 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,060 supposed to be and projects that we hope 966 00:36:18,060 --> 00:36:20,280 to work on to bring to the public to 967 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,800 kind of further John's Legacy and even 968 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,260 projects that we hope to 969 00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:27,540 um bring back to the Forefront that John 970 00:36:27,540 --> 00:36:30,599 was working on before 971 00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:32,760 no it's okay the project that John was 972 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,740 working on before he passed some of 973 00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:37,260 those that um you know ended up not 974 00:36:37,260 --> 00:36:40,079 coming to fruition we're looking 975 00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,720 maybe um do something with those ideas 976 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,780 as well so the foundation is still kind 977 00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:49,200 of in its infancy where we're looking to 978 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,859 reach out to a potential investors who 979 00:36:52,859 --> 00:36:55,440 may want to invest in 980 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,359 Foundation because we obviously need 981 00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:59,640 capital and 982 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,540 um 983 00:37:00,540 --> 00:37:02,160 so that's kind of what we've been doing 984 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,740 working behind the scenes to sort of get 985 00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:07,500 get um like I said the foundation of the 986 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:09,660 foundation into place get all of you 987 00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:12,720 know our pieces into play so that once 988 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:16,260 we do the full launch of the foundation 989 00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:18,839 you know it will it can run seamlessly 990 00:37:18,839 --> 00:37:21,180 yeah awesome awesome and I didn't know 991 00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:23,040 if I was overstepping my boundaries with 992 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,320 I I know that the there's a Twitter 993 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,880 account and there's a website so I 994 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,859 figured it was it was it was in a public 995 00:37:28,859 --> 00:37:31,859 domain so um 996 00:37:31,859 --> 00:37:34,619 where obviously we're 997 00:37:34,619 --> 00:37:37,619 working on getting the messaging down 998 00:37:37,619 --> 00:37:40,320 obviously this is a big adventure that 999 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,960 we're taking on here you know John was 1000 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,500 such a larger than life person but he 1001 00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:47,520 has 1002 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,300 um 1003 00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:51,900 just an immense wealth of knowledge that 1004 00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,660 we can draw from and so you know that's 1005 00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:56,760 kind of what we're doing looking to pull 1006 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,940 from the things that he has left behind 1007 00:37:59,940 --> 00:38:03,240 so that we can use that and and further 1008 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:07,320 his vision of what he wanted to 1009 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:07,980 um 1010 00:38:07,980 --> 00:38:11,040 he was concerned about for people to to 1011 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,200 pay attention to which is the privacy 1012 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,359 and and are losing the Privacy that 1013 00:38:15,359 --> 00:38:18,000 we're losing and and the technology and 1014 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,520 how if we're not careful if we can 1015 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,980 become very dystopian you know if we let 1016 00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:26,339 our the technology just completely run 1017 00:38:26,339 --> 00:38:28,500 our lives and then obviously freedom and 1018 00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:30,420 privacy these are just you know the 1019 00:38:30,420 --> 00:38:32,040 Staples of the things that he believed 1020 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,660 in obviously he believed in a lot of 1021 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:36,060 other things but these are things that 1022 00:38:36,060 --> 00:38:38,160 we are all each of us 1023 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,619 um individually passionate about and so 1024 00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:42,060 we're just looking 1025 00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:45,119 at how to take on this Larger than Life 1026 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:48,000 character and and continue his legacy 1027 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,400 you know because that that is how I want 1028 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,740 to honor him you know by by continuing 1029 00:38:52,740 --> 00:38:54,900 to share 1030 00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:57,359 um just you know the knowledge that he 1031 00:38:57,359 --> 00:39:00,000 had you know because a lot of the things 1032 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,700 that John spoke about are still relevant 1033 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:06,180 today you know and so I can see too why 1034 00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:07,440 people might think he's still alive 1035 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,900 because it sounds like he's talking you 1036 00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:11,760 know maybe you can go back and watch an 1037 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,800 interview or or something and you can 1038 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,359 hear him speaking and it's almost like 1039 00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:16,680 he's talking about what's happening 1040 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,560 today you know so um 1041 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,480 we just want to sort of keep that 1042 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,940 Timeless message going and that way he 1043 00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:27,060 can live on forever yeah awesome well 1044 00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:28,800 one I I appreciate you taking time to 1045 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,960 explain that and you know the you know 1046 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,940 like I said the the offer is always open 1047 00:39:32,940 --> 00:39:34,560 for you to come on a channel and if 1048 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,660 anybody from the foundation when when 1049 00:39:36,660 --> 00:39:38,940 everything happens with a real full-on 1050 00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:40,560 launch wants to come on the channel you 1051 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,200 know I will always give time to to 1052 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,040 family into the McAfee people so 100 1053 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,760 um 1054 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,760 well I mean I hope that you really get 1055 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,800 some good news here soon I want to stay 1056 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,720 on top and make sure I'm staying in 1057 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,000 contact with you to keep updated and try 1058 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,460 my best to keep everybody else updated I 1059 00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:01,079 will have information for your social 1060 00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:02,880 media so people can follow 1061 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,339 before we wrap up I think we've covered 1062 00:40:05,339 --> 00:40:07,079 pretty much most everything we want to 1063 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:08,880 but was there anything that we didn't 1064 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,160 cover or any any final thoughts you want 1065 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,099 to add before we wrap up 1066 00:40:14,099 --> 00:40:15,540 um 1067 00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:18,960 um no just just wake up please four five 1068 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,460 more wake up you know it's it's 1069 00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:26,339 you know we can't do this alone we need 1070 00:40:26,339 --> 00:40:28,800 people to to just wake up and see the 1071 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,140 truth of the situation that's happening 1072 00:40:31,140 --> 00:40:34,380 around you wake up and see you know 1073 00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:36,300 everything is kind of going to crap and 1074 00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:37,920 we're just letting it we're just riding 1075 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,440 this wave you know and and everyone has 1076 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,900 this attitude of why what can I do I'm 1077 00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:45,839 just one person but you can do a lot you 1078 00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:46,619 know 1079 00:40:46,619 --> 00:40:49,680 um just do something right yes right 1080 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,020 don't do nothing 1081 00:40:52,020 --> 00:40:53,700 something is definitely always better 1082 00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:55,980 than nothing yeah 1083 00:40:55,980 --> 00:40:58,020 is you know so it just it just takes 1084 00:40:58,020 --> 00:40:59,700 people actually taking a stand and I'm 1085 00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:01,500 I'm trying my best to try to inspire 1086 00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:02,820 people to stand for the things they 1087 00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:04,680 believe in because if we don't start 1088 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,240 standing for those things we're going to 1089 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:11,569 lose all of those things 1090 00:41:11,579 --> 00:41:14,160 100 so uh before we wrap up what I'm 1091 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,540 going to remind people is I'll have 1092 00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:17,400 links down below for everything that we 1093 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,980 were talking about I do encourage people 1094 00:41:19,980 --> 00:41:21,060 to make sure you're taking an 1095 00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:22,560 opportunity to check out the playlist 1096 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,500 the McAfee the math the man the myth the 1097 00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:26,400 legend 1098 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,560 all all the interviews that I've done 1099 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,020 with him I put all seven interviews in 1100 00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:33,780 one video with all the unedited footage 1101 00:41:33,780 --> 00:41:35,160 so you can kind of see a little bit 1102 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,619 behind the scenes you kind of get to see 1103 00:41:37,619 --> 00:41:39,000 a little bit of Janice in there too and 1104 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,260 you can kind of see how Janice and John 1105 00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:42,300 interact which is you you can tell how 1106 00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:44,339 much John loves you 100 1107 00:41:44,339 --> 00:41:46,500 and uh the Janice McAfee interviews are 1108 00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:47,820 here so make sure you guys are checking 1109 00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:49,440 those out and again make sure you're 1110 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,359 following Janice and the foundation 1111 00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:53,160 everything on social media everything 1112 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,560 will be linked down below 1113 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,000 um if you could bear with me Jenna's 1114 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,079 just gonna do the wrap up and stop 1115 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,240 recording so ladies and gentlemen again 1116 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:01,619 thank you for tuning in I greatly 1117 00:42:01,619 --> 00:42:03,240 appreciate it I hope that this 1118 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:05,400 information has provided some value to 1119 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,480 everybody 1120 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,980 kind of give you a sense of what's 1121 00:42:07,980 --> 00:42:11,280 Happening a sense of where Janice is at 1122 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,560 and what's happening with John hopefully 1123 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,359 we will get that closure here soon so 1124 00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:18,060 just stay tuned other than that uh this 1125 00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:19,440 is your first time watching any of my 1126 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,180 content I would ask you to make sure you 1127 00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:23,520 subscribed here at Rice tvx I also have 1128 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,320 another Channel called rice Against the 1129 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,119 Grain I encourage you to subscribe to 1130 00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:29,300 that check out my website 1131 00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:32,160 ricetvx.com and you will see that I'm 1132 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,920 launching a private Members Only video 1133 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,859 platform on my website 1134 00:42:36,859 --> 00:42:39,619 riceuncensored.com so I can make myself 1135 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