1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,000 We have the Ark, we have the Shamir, we have the Kavod, anything else? 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 We have the Ruach. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,000 That's the rising up? 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Yes. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,000 The flying? 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Yes, the Ruach. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 So some sort of suggestion of a flying machine? 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Yes, yes, a flying machine. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Of course, I don't know where in the Bible. 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,000 In the Bible. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Give me an example. 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 In the Bible. 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:51,000 For example, in the book of Ezekiel, in the book of Exodus, is clearly described the 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:12,000 you cannot stay in front of Kavod because if you are in front of Kavod, you die. 15 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,000 And so that is important. 16 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Yahweh cannot do nothing. 17 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:37,000 And that is very interesting. 18 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Yahweh tells to Moses, you can hide you after these rocks. 19 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Right. 20 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Impressive. 21 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Yes, very, very much so. 22 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,000 So Maro, a pleasure to meet you. 23 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 I've heard a lot about your work. 24 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,000 It's a pleasure for me and I thank you for having me here in your home. 25 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 It's an honor for me. 26 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,000 You're welcome. 27 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Very nice to meet you. 28 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Now, fundamentally, the issue at stake is translation, the translation of the Bible. 29 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,000 So let's establish some things clearly. 30 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,000 When we talk about the Bible, we're talking about the Old Testament. 31 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:36,000 When we talk about the Bible, normally we talk about the Old Testament. 32 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Yes. 33 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,000 We have many versions of the Old Testament. 34 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:56,000 We have the Old Testament in the Masoretic version. 35 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 That is the official version. 36 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:25,000 We have the Old Testament in the Dead Sea Scrolls that have, for example, only in th... 37 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:42,000 But the theologians says that the Old Testament, the true is that in the version... 38 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Explain Masoretic to me. 39 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:23,000 So the people could read it how he wanted. 40 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000 They could insert whichever vowels they wished to. 41 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Exactly. 42 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:51,000 And I translated this, not because I think it is the best or the unique of the truth. 43 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,000 This is the definitive version. 44 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:13,000 First of all, with our friends, I apologize for my English, but I'm learning it few 45 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,000 And so I hope to make you understand. 46 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,000 You're certainly making me understand. 47 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Yes. 48 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,000 And that's the name of the Hebrew Bible. 49 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Yes. 50 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:41,000 And if I take the Masoretic translation of the Torah, it's identical in content. 51 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,000 They contain the same books. 52 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Not in all the translations. 53 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Right. 54 00:05:53,000 --> 00:06:00,000 And often are also important. 55 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:12,000 And so when we are in front of this book, we have only to be careful to the context. 56 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:34,000 It's uncertain also if all the scholars of the world say that this is the translation. 57 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 It's not certain. 58 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 They're using their authority. 59 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:57,000 And so we have to use the context to understand the real meaning of a single term. 60 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Like the verb "bara", who is present in the first verse of the Bible in the Genesis. 61 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:11,000 "Berechit bara eluim ashamay mevet hares". 62 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:17,000 So the term "shaddai" that doesn't mean "almighty". 63 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:23,000 But it means "Lord of the mountains". 64 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 "Lord of the steppe". 65 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,000 But they know it's not "almighty". 66 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Because, for example, in the Bible of Jerusalem, in the notes, they write that t... 67 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Right. 68 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Also, they know that "shaddai" doesn't mean "almighty". 69 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:21,000 So to be clear, in the original Hebrew, if somebody is a Hebrew speaker and understan... 70 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,000 No, exactly. They understand the real meaning. 71 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:35,000 So the problem is with the translation out of Hebrew into other languages. 72 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Exactly. 73 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:43,000 What is your special qualification to translate and to comment on biblical texts? 74 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,000 After, I started to translate the... 75 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 What led you to start learning Hebrew? 76 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,000 For my interest, for my personal passion. 77 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:12,000 As you, I wanted to understand, really, because I know Latin, Greek, ancient Hebrew. 78 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:35,000 And after I started to translate, for me, the publishing house of San Paolo, 79 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,000 So my translation. 80 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,000 And after, they asked me to translate for them. 81 00:09:54,000 --> 00:10:00,000 And I translate 70 books of the Old Testament. 82 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,000 You were translating into Italian or into which language? 83 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Into Italian. 84 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:20,000 But when I was translated for them, for example, 85 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:26,000 the term "Heloim" was not translated. 86 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Because in the world, nobody knows the really meaning of the term "Heloim". 87 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,000 So it's better not to translate it. 88 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 But to leave it as it is. 89 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Exactly. 90 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,000 So that's a transliteration that we're looking at. 91 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:07,000 So terms as "shall die", "Heloim", were not translated. 92 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 They were left as they were. 93 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Interesting. 94 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,000 So it's true to say then that you're an official Bible translator for the Vatican? 95 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Yes. 96 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,000 And how is the relationship between you and the Vatican? 97 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:34,000 When I started to explain to the public the real meanings. 98 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,000 I was fired in one minute. 99 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,000 One minute. 100 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,000 It's a very explosive subject. 101 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 All finished. 102 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Right. 103 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,000 So you had a temporary connection with the Vatican? 104 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Yes. 105 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,000 And that resulted in the translation of 70 books? 106 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Right. 107 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 They published this 70 book with my name. 108 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 And they're still in print? 109 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,000 They now changed my name. 110 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:28,000 They made a revision of this book so to can insert another name and cancel my name. 111 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:46,000 But when I was working for them, Elohim was not translated. 112 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:51,000 So do you think this is the essence of the problem then between you and the Vatican? 113 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Oh yes, great problem. 114 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:31,000 important biblical translator protestant. 115 00:13:52,200 --> 00:14:02,200 There is not the concept of transcendence. There is not the concept of spirituality. 116 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:22,200 And so I was here and I thought in my mind, but they are saying what I say normally. 117 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:43,200 If I understand YHVH it's supposed to mean I am that I am or I am what I am. Is that 118 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:05,200 So nobody knows in what language was pronounced. 119 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,200 Yes. 120 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:25,200 And of course nobody can absolutely confirm that Moses was a real historical figure at 121 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:33,200 1200 or in the opinion of other scholars, 500. 122 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,200 So much later. 123 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,200 There is some disargument about when. 124 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,200 But nobody is sure about this. 125 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,200 But when did the Hebrew language come into existence? 126 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:57,200 In that moment Aramaic was the international language as the English now. 127 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:35,200 So nobody knows the real sound of this name. 128 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,200 Yes. 129 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,200 You are saying that the language that Moses spoke could not have been Hebrew. 130 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,200 No. 131 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,200 Could have been ancient Egyptian. 132 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,200 Yes, perfect. 133 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,200 Could have been ancient Egyptian. 134 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Is it controversial to say that the Hebrew language did not exist in 1200 BC? 135 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,200 Old Hebrew. 136 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,200 Old Hebrew. 137 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:27,200 But it is not Hebrew because the Hebrew really started to exist as a dialect of 138 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:41,200 So this entity called YHVH or Yahweh, we don't know what language he spoke to Moses... 139 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,200 No, we don't know. 140 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,200 But since Moses was reared in the household of the Pharaoh it is most likely to have b... 141 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,200 Yes. 142 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,200 And they don't use vowels at that time. 143 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,200 Yes, they don't use vowels. 144 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,200 So why YHVH are all consonants? 145 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,200 And we don't know what the vowels are. 146 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,200 No, we don't know. 147 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,200 Right, so that's when... 148 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,200 Sorry for English. 149 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,200 No problem. 150 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:37,200 So this is an interpretation in the Hebrew text that is put upon those consonants, YHVH. 151 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,200 And generally it's interpreted as God. 152 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,200 And how do they relate to Yahweh or YHVH? 153 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:57,200 El could be, but it's not sure, could be the singular of Elohim. 154 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,200 But it's not sure. 155 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:23,200 That correspond to Allah in the Semitic Oriental, Eastern Semitic. 156 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,200 Ah, Bethel. 157 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,200 Bethel means the house of God. 158 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,200 House of El, which is often translated as the house of God. 159 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,200 Yes. 160 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,200 But you're saying that there's no legitimacy to that translation. 161 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,200 No, absolutely. 162 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:25,200 all people understand that El and Elohim and Eloah doesn't mean God. 163 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,200 Can't mean God. 164 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,200 Can't mean. 165 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,200 Yes. 166 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:47,200 My manager is studying Hebrew with the University of Jerusalem. 167 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:57,200 And they hear from her teachers translations that are similar to mine. 168 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,200 So where is that God in the Hebrew Bible? 169 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,200 There are many Judaism. 170 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:23,200 But there are many Christianities too, but they all share the view that there are 171 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,200 They would define themselves as monotheists. 172 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,200 Yes. 173 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:51,200 But there are many important executives in the Hebrew that writes clearly that El, 174 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,200 What does that lead us to? 175 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,200 What are your conclusions from that? 176 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:17,200 That Elohim was a superior civilization that divided the various populations in Kindos. 177 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,200 Right. 178 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,200 Of the whole earth. 179 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:39,200 And Yahweh was in charge of the population named the songs of Israel. That is Jacob. 180 00:22:51,200 --> 00:23:05,200 The other family of Hebrews, like Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, etc., was assigned to 181 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:21,200 Dagon and Asherah I recognize as Canaanite or so-called Philistine deities. 182 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,200 Yes, but they are present in the Bible. 183 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:31,200 They are referenced in the Bible. We hear that the Ark of the Covenant destroys Dago... 184 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,200 But what are they defined as? What are they? 185 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,200 Elohim. Always Elohim. 186 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:47,200 But the theologians say that those Elohim were not existent. 187 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,200 Were only idols or idols. 188 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:57,200 I understand Dagon and Asherah being referred to as idols. 189 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,200 Yes, it is a wrong translation. 190 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,200 So Elohim refers to a multiplicity of... 191 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,200 Yes, to a multiplicity of God. 192 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,200 By sure. Yes, absolutely. 193 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:25,200 I wanted to reduce the number of the Elohim present in the Bible. 194 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:37,200 But I reduced the number of the Elohim present in the Bible. 195 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,200 So there are no doubt. 196 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:45,200 How did you reduce it? 197 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:51,200 Reading and translating the Bible, which is name. 198 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:11,200 But those people are of the same family of Abraham. 199 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:31,200 And the name of their Elohims is present in the Bible. 200 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:59,200 There is a stone of Moabites in which is written that they fought with Israelis and 201 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,200 So you're seeing these Elohim as some sort of... 202 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:23,200 You're not jumping to conclusions about what they are, but you're saying they're not Gods. 203 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,200 They are of an higher civilization. 204 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,200 We'll come to that. 205 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:47,200 So let's go with this idea that peoples from another civilization are advising or 206 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,200 So we have Israel, we have the peoples of Israel. 207 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:03,200 Does Moses receive a divine instruction or any instruction to take the people out of 208 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,200 And if so, who gives that instruction? 209 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:23,200 Because he wanted to be sure with which he was speaking. 210 00:27:19,460 --> 00:27:23,240 He was speaking, okay 211 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,080 Because it don't news. I 212 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:33,400 Suppose the most the most controversial thing that you're saying really is that God as w... 213 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,960 God how I don't know a person that is speaking. I'm not a Christian 214 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,360 No, I don't belong to any of the mainstream religions 215 00:27:48,580 --> 00:27:56,600 Okay, but I'm not a Christian, but I have an idea of what Christians think God is and w... 216 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,080 often with a beard 217 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,680 Who is the father of Jesus Christ somehow? 218 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:09,400 And and is is alone. He's a one God one one one one God 219 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,060 There is no basis and that's the old test of the Bible. Yeah, all testament 220 00:28:19,060 --> 00:28:22,120 Absolutely, there is no basis for for this 221 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:27,600 For this construction of the image of the God like a person 222 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,480 When do you think that image began to be constructed in the Bible? 223 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:38,160 Yeah, in the time in the Bible at the time of the time of the exile at the time of the X 224 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,600 they there they weren't 225 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,420 Conscious of the existence of many Elohim. Yes 226 00:28:51,420 --> 00:28:54,360 Clearly in the Bible. Yeah 227 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,800 What I wonder is what with the if this all of him Elohim idea is correct and that that w... 228 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,400 Organizational force which is organizing different cultures around the world 229 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,400 I mean the Moses leads the children of Israel out of Egypt were told in the Bible 230 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,540 But Egypt seemed to carry on in its own way afterwards is for at least another thousan... 231 00:29:19,540 --> 00:29:24,039 Did they have an Elohim or are looking after them? 232 00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:29,560 The the Egyptians what about as a part of that and and the 233 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,600 Elohim they don't 234 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,380 They were the same 235 00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:51,039 In Hebrew was Elohim in Mesopotamia was he loo or Ilano 236 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,720 in Egypt 237 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,320 Was other name. Yeah 238 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:02,400 But the same function. Yeah, but the same functions. Yes, the same characteristics 239 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:10,000 I I see so to cut a long story short. Do you interpret these entities as human beings? Yes 240 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,720 You interpret them as human beings. So this is where there's a crossover with with my 241 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,120 In the sense that I have advocated the possibility of a lost 242 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,200 civilization of some sort 243 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,560 Which originated during the Ice Age and which was destroyed 244 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,519 in the global cataclysms that brought the Ice Age to an end now 245 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:41,039 It has long it has for a long time seemed to me that the wisdom and knowledge of that 246 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:44,240 But it was preserved that there that there may have been 247 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:50,800 Specific groups of people who were charged with carrying that knowledge down. Yes int... 248 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,000 So I can see the I can see the crossover with with it's a it's 249 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,880 Absolutely possible that Elohim were those 250 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,680 Now the thing is that we have a very long gap 251 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,880 If we agree on the flood, which is another question. I want to ask you 252 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,340 Okay, but the biblical flood is the is the best of course the best known 253 00:31:18,340 --> 00:31:21,000 flood myth in the world 254 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,400 Everybody knows about the flood of Noah whatever their religion is today 255 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:41,039 That tell of a global flood and a cataclysm that afflicted the earth and that caused 256 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:49,080 I've long been of the view that that the most likely period for that cataclysm 257 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,680 Is the end of the Ice Age? 258 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,840 Yes, and it runs roughly for 1200 years from 259 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,720 12,800 years ago to 260 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,480 11,600 years ago 11,600 years ago 261 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:15,560 We get a final massive pulse of melt water which raises sea levels very very rapidly 262 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,120 It's one of the reasons why I'm interested in the story of Atlantis actually 263 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,200 9,000 years before the time of Solon is 264 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,920 The date that Plato gives for the submergence of of Atlantis 265 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:38,920 But I know so if these calculations are correct, and we're looking at a global 266 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,080 massive 267 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,320 spasm of disaster 11,600 years ago. That's a long gap 268 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,800 3,200 years ago. So we have about 8,000 years gap 269 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:05,440 Now one of the things that my critics find hardest to accept is the idea that a wisdo... 270 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,039 perhaps even specific technologies 271 00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:15,320 Originating with a lost civilization could have been preserved for 8,000 years 272 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:23,640 This is the this is raises. It's absolutely possible. So talk to me about why it's 273 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,960 Also in the the Egyptian culture 274 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,600 I read that 275 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,200 the priest Phoenician 276 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,880 Sanquniaton who wrote and 277 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,440 Eusebio of Caesarea 278 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,360 report is 279 00:33:50,960 --> 00:34:00,760 Uncover I didn't that under the means a true history of an ancient 280 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:07,460 Civilization well in Egypt. We have entities like this one here 281 00:34:07,460 --> 00:34:11,760 These are not these are not Horus and Anubis 282 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:20,800 They're also related to another group called the followers of Horus and their 283 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:27,360 Purpose specific purpose as described in the ancient Egyptian text was to transmit 284 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:34,720 From the past into the future that there are kind of secret brotherhood. They could als... 285 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:37,400 because the ancient Egyptians were very 286 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:50,519 I prefer not to say a brotherhood a secret society which passed down knowledge from t... 287 00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:57,960 The most difficult thing to believe is that such a secret society could survive for 8,... 288 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,119 often when I'm criticized about that I point out that 289 00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:04,480 that 290 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:14,019 Even the idea of the flood is an idea that has lasted for thousands of years 291 00:35:14,019 --> 00:35:20,720 But what's your feeling about the dating of this? Do you do you accept the notion of a 292 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:23,519 Do you prefer it? 293 00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:28,420 Is there anything in the 11,000 years ago? It's fascinating that that where 294 00:35:28,420 --> 00:35:34,039 Where the Bible says that the Ark of Noah ends up is Mount Ararat 295 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,760 Which is now in Turkey. Yes 296 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,539 Although it's 297 00:35:39,539 --> 00:35:45,159 It's actually visible from Armenia. You can see the Mount Ararat more clearly from 298 00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:51,240 But it's now it's now in Turkey. Now the interesting thing is there's no question 299 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:54,960 That whatever floods took place at that time at the end of the ice age 300 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,280 None of them reached the slopes of Mount Ararat 301 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:03,159 They did not Mount Ararat was never submerged 11,000 years ago or a hundred thousand yea... 302 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:10,699 But the idea that survivors of a flood would seek refuge in high places 303 00:36:10,699 --> 00:36:16,039 That makes sense to me. Yes, because also Nicola Damasceno 304 00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:20,079 Right in his books that when 305 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:24,320 Noah arrived on top of this mountain 306 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,079 He found here other people 307 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:31,840 Interesting found other people and 308 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:39,800 Were afraid to descend right and the Noah with her sons 309 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:45,320 Convicted them to descend right, but this is not in the Bible. This is this is in some 310 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,880 This is in the text of 311 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,240 Nicola of Damascus, right first first 312 00:36:52,240 --> 00:37:00,960 Century before Christ, right, right, so it's an exegesis. Yes. Yes. Yes, so so interesting 313 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:12,000 I mean the reason that Mount Ararat is of interest to me is because of its relative 314 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:18,360 Gobekli Tepe. Yes, also 11,600 years old. Yes, the Arhat Tepe is 11,600 years old 315 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:25,400 Gobekli Tepe is another proof of an Igar civilization. I believe it is. Yes. I thin... 316 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,000 but what's fascinating is 317 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:35,400 archaeologists most oppose is that 318 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:41,480 The thought that knowledge could be preserved within select groups and passed down to th... 319 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:47,320 That for that to happen for 8,000 years is something that many skeptics find very 320 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,980 Yes, I think I think that history must be 321 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:08,320 History is not able to explain. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah 322 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,280 Let's consider technology as you know 323 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,600 my 324 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,880 Well, my background was in journalism and 325 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,600 Okay, I became very interested in the Ark of the Covenant 326 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:38,059 Fascinating object the way that it's described in the book of Exodus the bluepr... 327 00:38:38,059 --> 00:38:40,440 The things that the Ark then does 328 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,840 subsequently 329 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,000 During the conquest of the of the Promised Land. Yes 330 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:54,240 Interpret it in any other way 331 00:38:54,240 --> 00:39:01,440 What do you think the Ark of the Covenant was but I think I think it's what what 332 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:08,000 Is written in the Bible can be can be true. Yeah 333 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,039 Because the Ark is 334 00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:14,920 Defined as an object 335 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:24,480 Produced it had contained it some form or of energy and was also an 336 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,119 instrument for the communication between 337 00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:33,079 Moses or the people of Israel with 338 00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:36,119 His Elohim 339 00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,960 Named Yahweh. Yeah, when if I may say 340 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,079 Talking to God not talking to Yahweh. Yes 341 00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,760 Talking to Yahweh. Yeah, whatever it was 342 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,559 Whatever he was whatever he was my I think 343 00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:02,039 This is clear in the Bible. Yeah, there is no doubt 344 00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:10,000 Of course, we can we can think that the Bible is not true 345 00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:18,400 to pretend that the Bible is a 346 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,320 True history like all 347 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:26,199 history books all around the world that 348 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:31,559 Contains always the truth. Yeah, but not only 349 00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:37,119 Also, also the books of history written today. Yeah 350 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:51,240 It's the same history indeed. So I'd like to I'd like to I'd like you to talk a little 351 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,840 Technological aspects of the Ark of the Covenant, but also 352 00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:01,320 Can you think of other objects in the Bible which which maybe deserve a technological 353 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:04,360 which may be deserve a technological interpretation rather than a spiritual 354 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:16,519 There is another object named Kavod. Kavod is always translated as "Glory of Yahweh". 355 00:42:24,759 --> 00:42:37,880 exact translation of the Hebrew term that is not Baruch, but is Berun. What happened to 356 00:42:49,480 --> 00:43:04,119 a great noise that Ezekiel heard but this noise was behind him. Is it also the Kavod 357 00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:18,599 It does sound very technological. What do you make of the tower of Babel? 358 00:43:51,239 --> 00:44:05,480 And after the Bible says that Yahweh divided languages. But if you read carefully, 359 00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:16,920 previous chapters of the Bible, you read that the languages were before divided. 360 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:33,480 Each people had their own language. So when Yahweh destroyed this tower, 361 00:44:43,319 --> 00:44:52,759 So you don't create new languages, because the diverse languages were already existed. 362 00:44:52,759 --> 00:45:01,960 It is clearly written in the Bible. And yet not made available to us who don't speak 363 00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:17,880 Yes, because the Hebrew Bible is written, or first some parts of 364 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:27,799 written after the exile of Babylon. And so we cannot be sure. 365 00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:44,119 And they created monotheism. 366 00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:50,759 Okay, so in summary, in your view, monotheism is not a natural outcome of the Bible. 367 00:45:50,759 --> 00:45:53,319 It's a deliberate, man-made strategy. 368 00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:19,719 like as other peoples. Every people has one or many. 369 00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:37,639 which controls advanced knowledge and has ideas about how human beings should be 370 00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:41,559 So we're saying that they were present in the time of Moses. 371 00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:46,359 They were present in many other cultures at that time as well. 372 00:46:46,359 --> 00:46:48,599 Are they still with us today? 373 00:46:56,199 --> 00:47:02,119 Because we are not sure of what they were. 374 00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:16,759 And the Elohim, I know, for example, a Protestant pastor Barry Downing, 375 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,119 Like a secret government? 376 00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:46,599 Exactly, exactly. And he is a Protestant pastor who has a personal faith in God. 377 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:53,880 But he tells that Elohims were not God, absolutely. 378 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:59,719 Were they, okay, they were not God. Were they good or were they evil? 379 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,119 Were they like humans? 380 00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:06,599 Both good and evil. 381 00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:11,159 The efficient depends on the position, because, you know, 382 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:27,559 There's a controversial view of the encounters with entities in the Bible. 383 00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:33,559 I know quite well, although I've not seen him for some years, 384 00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:38,440 Professor Benny Shannon from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. 385 00:48:46,359 --> 00:48:54,199 ayahuasca. Benny has drunk ayahuasca 400, maybe 500 times. 386 00:48:54,199 --> 00:49:02,279 I've worked with ayahuasca too. My total is more like 70 or 75, not 500. 387 00:49:02,279 --> 00:49:06,679 But in Benny's view, he puts it forward as a hypothesis. 388 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,880 in daily life? No, we don't. Not especially if it speaks to us. 389 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,599 We can see a burning bush, but a burning bush that speaks to us is unusual. 390 00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:30,039 And he points out that in ayahuasca visionary states, we often meet trees that speak to us 391 00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:33,639 and other entities that speak to us. And sometimes they may even be in flames. 392 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:46,679 and mimosa hostilis, which both together contain the same molecules as ayahuasca. 393 00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:51,639 So the bottom line is that Benny Shannon was suggesting that Moses was on ayahuasca. 394 00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:57,880 Or it's possible that he was having a visionary experience, that many of these. 395 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,920 And that is, it's very important to be clear when we talk about visionary experiences, 396 00:50:07,319 --> 00:50:12,599 We're not saying that visionary experiences can be real in every meaningful sense of t... 397 00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:20,759 But we're saying that they're harder to fit in to the Western way of looking at things. 398 00:50:20,759 --> 00:50:22,679 I'm just wondering what your view of this is. 399 00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:30,599 There's a case to be made that almost all religions arose out of visionary experienc... 400 00:50:34,359 --> 00:50:41,880 Of course, it's possible. But I wanted to tell you another thing. 401 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:51,480 The term Hebrew, translated with bush, is present also in other parts of the Bible. 402 00:51:12,759 --> 00:51:15,719 So it's another case of mistranslation. 403 00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:42,039 is a name for Rocky Mountain. So we can think that there was not a bush with fire. 404 00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:55,960 This glowing, burning, energy with sound. 405 00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:08,279 And so since we know that in that region, where many archaeologists found, 406 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:36,119 some substance like petrol. So when the cupboard of Yahweh is posing on the earth, 407 00:52:53,079 --> 00:53:04,119 We are not sure. And my system is always to have open mind to all possible solutions. 408 00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:15,639 quite old and is very difficult to understand and has been through already multiple chan... 409 00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:22,840 language, which causes further problems. We cannot be always sure. Absolutely. 410 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:30,199 We must not be dogmatic. We must not be dogmatic. And yet it is a book which has 411 00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:49,480 last 2000 years. Because in my translation, I'm using several dictionaries. Theologica... 412 00:54:00,279 --> 00:54:11,480 to all possible solutions. I agree. But we must know that there are several possible 413 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:17,239 not only one. Absolutely. Tell me what your view of the book of Revelation is. 414 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:41,239 for the church, the main church, that were arising in that time. So to not speak to t... 415 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:41,719 of the time. 416 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:54,519 like Roman emperor, etc., and I think it's a book written in Codex for that time. 417 00:54:54,519 --> 00:54:57,880 What about the prediction of the end of the world? 418 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:15,320 Because, for example, all the prophecies written in the Bible, all the prophecies w... 419 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:24,840 after what was just happened, after, always after, rather than before, always, always. 420 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:37,400 So what we were saying was that the Elohim are clearly human beings of some sort. 421 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,200 Yes. 422 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,519 Is that too rapid a conclusion? Could they be something other than human beings? 423 00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:46,360 You keep an open mind on everything? Do you keep an open mind on that? 424 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,880 We can try it, okay. 425 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,440 But it's the same, it's the same as you want. 426 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,840 Because I'm interested in their vices. 427 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:07,160 Human beings have vices. Did the Elohim have vices? 428 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:19,240 But Yahweh wanted to have every day from two to five liters, because I don't know how m... 429 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,440 Where is this stated? Is this stated in the Bible? 430 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:45,560 It's stated in the Bible, in the Torah, and He wanted also every day the smoke of the 431 00:56:54,600 --> 00:57:03,880 this smoke that He wanted to smell was able to calm Him. 432 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,760 Yes, I remember that passage. 433 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:30,120 there are some molecules that are similar to the molecules of the endorphine, 434 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:16,360 And you wouldn't expect the one God, the Creator of the universe, to need to be cal... 435 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:22,280 But it's clear, it's not my translation. Absolutely. 436 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,320 It's the normal translation. 437 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:38,600 So does the Bible tell us, give us any hint as to where these entities, these Elohim, 438 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,600 this Yahweh, where they come from? 439 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:50,920 No, the Bible doesn't say where they come from, and so I don't do suggestions in that. 440 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:50,120 was used also by Monsignor Corrado Balducci Patkin, who said, because now he's dead, 441 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:08,440 knew the existence of the inhabitants of the earth and the inhabitants of the universe, 442 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,920 that they were different. 443 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:30,280 And in the English Bibles, the terms in Hebrew "Petahim" and "Sherim" 444 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:37,160 are translated by Hebrew translators, gates. 445 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:54,840 Yes, but I stop at the literal translation of the Bible, because after this translation 446 01:00:54,840 --> 01:01:03,240 we have to become with speculation, but I prefer for now to remain to the 447 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,000 I think you're right to do that. 448 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:16,600 It's always interesting to speculate, but what you're doing is you're providing people 449 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:23,480 with new facts that allows us to think more clearly about this important text. 450 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,480 We've spoken of the Ark of the Covenant as a technological object. 451 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,320 You've spoken of the kavod. 452 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,920 There is also the Shamir. 453 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,200 Sounds also technological. 454 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,280 Can you talk a little bit about that? 455 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:49,960 The Shamir is an object very difficult to explain, because it's quoted only one or two 456 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,680 times in the Bible. 457 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:10,760 But I want to work of fantasy, and so I prefer to be silent. 458 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,200 You don't want fantasy. 459 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,360 I get that. 460 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,720 as technology? 461 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:26,680 We have the Ark. 462 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:27,720 We have the Shamir. 463 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:28,680 We have the kavod. 464 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:29,800 We have the Ruach. 465 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,039 That's the rising up. 466 01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:32,360 Yes. 467 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,320 The flying. 468 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,360 Yes, the Ruach. 469 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:38,840 So some sort of suggestion of a flying machine. 470 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,440 Of course, I don't know where in the Bible. 471 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,240 In the Bible. 472 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:54,039 Give me an example. 473 01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:54,680 In the Bible. 474 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:55,880 In the Bible. 475 01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:05,160 For example, in the book of Ezekiel, in the book of Exodus, in the book of Exodus, 476 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:26,440 to see this kavod, and Yahweh says to him, you cannot stay in front of kavod, 477 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:31,160 because if you are in front of kavod, you die. 478 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:40,680 Yahweh cannot do nothing. 479 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:53,720 So God is important, not potent, in front of the dangerosity of the kavod. 480 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,520 And that is very interesting. 481 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:13,880 So the rocks can do what God cannot do. 482 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,400 Right, right. 483 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,720 So impressive. 484 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,039 Yes, very, very, very much so. 485 01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:20,760 Yeah, yeah. 486 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:25,560 When you was a journalist of The Economist. 487 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:26,360 Yes. 488 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,480 Yes, it was, I was the East Africa correspondent for The Economist. 489 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,720 So I was based in Nairobi in Kenya. 490 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:44,120 And a number of neighboring countries were countries that I reported on regularly. 491 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,360 And one of those countries was Ethiopia. 492 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,079 Okay. 493 01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:06,920 with Harrison Ford, very soon after I had watched that, I was on a research trip in 494 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:12,280 And it came to my attention that the Ethiopians claim to possess this object. 495 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:13,800 Well, obviously I was interested. 496 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,680 And it's hidden in the mountains of Ethiopia. 497 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,039 I had never heard that before. 498 01:05:24,039 --> 01:05:28,360 So I began to investigate that particular claim. 499 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,600 Now at that time, which was 1983, the early 1980s, 500 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:39,160 I didn't have any particular interest in history or in prehistory or in archaeology. 501 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,000 My interests were much more in current affairs. 502 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,560 that there was, there was something going on here. 503 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,320 Because although archaeologists were rejecting Ethiopia's claim, 504 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,079 they're saying there was nothing to it. 505 01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:58,600 It was a complete fantasy. 506 01:05:58,600 --> 01:05:58,920 Okay. 507 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,920 My own eyes showed me that it was central to Ethiopian culture. 508 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:07,880 It was fundamental to Ethiopian culture, that there was a community of Ethiopian Jews. 509 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,800 They call themselves the Beta Israel, the House of Israel. 510 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:21,320 And they practice a very ancient form of Judaism. 511 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,640 They do not know, they only became acquainted with the Talmud 512 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,360 as a result of missionary activity from Israel. 513 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,920 They did not have the Talmud, but they did have the Torah. 514 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,520 So they are very old form of Judaism. 515 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,120 They did, they practiced sacrifice of rams. 516 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:45,240 Yes. 517 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,360 They, they, they, they practice sacrifice of rams. 518 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:53,400 They, and they had a rich history that told how they had come to Ethiopia 519 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,120 and how they had brought the Ark of the Covenant with them. 520 01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,680 It's a different story from the story that the Ethiopian national epic tells. 521 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:05,480 The Ethiopian national epic is called the Kebrin Agass, the glory of kings. 522 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,920 And in that they claim that the Queen of Sheba was an Ethiopian queen. 523 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,560 She was made pregnant by Solomon, according to the Ethiopian version. 524 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,920 She returned to Ethiopia. She bore the child. 525 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,800 His name was Menelik, means the son of the wise man. 526 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:29,079 And the story is that at the age of about 20 or 21, he went back to Jerusalem. 527 01:07:29,079 --> 01:07:31,320 He was recognized by his father. 528 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,520 And somehow after one year in the court of Solomon, 529 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,960 he contrived to steal the Ark of the Covenant. 530 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:48,280 And we are told in the Kebrin Agass that Solomon was okay with this 531 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:52,840 because it meant that God wanted it to be in Ethiopia rather than somewhere else. 532 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,000 There are many problems with this story. 533 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,840 And this story does not take into account the mysterious presence 534 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:05,960 of a very ancient community of Jews in Ethiopia and their story about how they go... 535 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:13,800 that their ancestors spent some hundreds of years on an island in the Nile. 536 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:19,079 And that island, we are quite certain what that island was. 537 01:08:19,079 --> 01:08:20,840 It was the island of Elephantina. 538 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,619 certain what that island was it was the island of Elefantina why are we 539 01:08:21,619 --> 01:08:25,239 certain because there was a Jewish temple built on that island and that 540 01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:29,840 Jewish temple was built there in the first temple period. I beg your pardon can I 541 01:08:41,579 --> 01:08:50,479 the wife of Yahweh so they were really another kind of Jewish religion indeed 542 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:56,319 so indeed indeed so here we come to the interesting point where history connects 543 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:06,039 fact it did exist there were communications between it and Jerusalem 544 01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:10,680 the temple had the same dimensions as the temple of Solomon when I search the 545 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:16,640 Bible for an explanation for the construction of the temple yes the only 546 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:21,760 explanation I find is as an house of rest for the Ark of the Covenant of the 547 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,279 Lord it's a place in which the Ark of the Covenant is to be put okay and then 548 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:37,560 built in Egypt of the same dimensions those Ethiopian Jews say that their 549 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:42,199 ancestors were driven out of that island this also is true we know we know 550 01:09:42,199 --> 01:09:46,359 from the the Egyptian history that this happened there was a Jewish community on 551 01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:51,079 that island and there was conflict with the Egyptian authorities because the 552 01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:02,399 ram-headed deity so the tension was caused by the sacrifice of rams that 553 01:10:02,399 --> 01:10:05,840 was taking place so the philashes say to cut a long story short that their 554 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:11,000 ancestors fled south they didn't go north through a hostile Egypt and back to 555 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:15,399 Jerusalem they went south and they followed the Nile river system they 556 01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:20,520 followed the blue Nile branch and they ended up in Lake Tana in Ethiopia and 557 01:10:26,039 --> 01:10:31,960 source of the blue Nile okay and and suddenly I could see how this story 558 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:38,800 made sense because how do you get the connection between Jerusalem and Ethiopia 559 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,960 okay what connects them once you come into Egypt and into the Nile valley what 560 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,119 connects them is the River Nile and it made perfect sense and Lake Tana was the 561 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,840 began to feel that the Ethiopian story really deserved serious investigation 562 01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:02,039 and I looked into it in great depth and it was the moment where there was a 563 01:11:02,039 --> 01:11:07,920 transition in my life from investigating current affairs issues to 564 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:15,319 investigating the past okay it put me on that path and the very the very first 565 01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:24,720 of the descriptions very very carefully is this thing sounds like a piece of 566 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:29,600 technology it's constructed it's carefully made there's a blueprint there's 567 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,880 instructions on what to do there's gold there's wood there's gold yes there's 568 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:39,359 these mysterious tablets that are placed inside it whatever they are and and it 569 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:51,680 episode in the past of humanity and I would not have gone on to write my 570 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:56,159 books about the possibility of a lost civilization if I had not first had that 571 01:11:56,159 --> 01:12:01,239 encounter with the mystery of the Ark of the Covenant personally I think the 572 01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:06,720 Ethiopian claim is rather strong for a lot of reasons but in a way its role in 573 01:12:12,180 --> 01:12:18,239 archaeologists completely ignore and just scornfully dismiss yes they are not 574 01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:22,680 interested in myths and traditions any such thing they just they just dismiss 575 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:27,560 it and in the process of doing so as we say in English they are throwing out the 576 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,439 baby with the bathwater they're missing important things in their desperate 577 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:36,039 effort to be scientists okay so it was an important lesson for me there are 578 01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:44,680 explained by the present model of history and that that model therefore must 579 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,279 be questioned and that's what I've subsequently devoted my life and often I 580 01:12:48,279 --> 01:12:56,960 think many mystery are explained in in two simply way yeah that's right far too 581 01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:03,159 simple too simply way yeah definitely but I think that your journey your journey 582 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:19,279 great great gift for all us thank you it was an amazing adventure for me and it 583 01:13:19,279 --> 01:13:24,880 and it opened my eyes to to problems and issues that I had been completely 584 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:30,520 unaware of before and it set me on a it set me on the track that I'm still that 585 01:13:36,199 --> 01:13:41,760 condition in the present if we have only a single view of the past yes we must 586 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:46,000 we must have a diversity of views we must be open to to all of them and this is 587 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:52,159 the main problem I have with archaeology I would like if you want to to to tell 588 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:10,079 course so totally as I as I read your books because I wanted that the the 589 01:14:10,079 --> 01:14:17,720 friend friends of my Mauro Bellino official channel can hear from your 590 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,399 a bit in it was certainly was a breakthrough for me you know the problem 591 01:14:28,399 --> 01:14:36,840 with communicating controversial information about the past is you want 592 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:42,880 to make a strong a case as you possibly can so that's fine in a book where you 593 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:54,880 difficult to oh yes to make that convincing case yes yes especially so 594 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:59,840 if you're banned from filming in Egypt which I am and Egypt is an important 595 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:05,920 part of my story to tell you must make your point in each episode within half 596 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:10,479 an hour so everything has to move very quickly but the advantage the positive 597 01:15:15,079 --> 01:15:21,319 book would not do and tens of millions and this is what I wanted to what I 598 01:15:21,319 --> 01:15:27,039 wanted to do was to not to tell people what to think because academics do that 599 01:15:27,039 --> 01:15:31,600 already archaeologists do that they say this is what you should think about the 600 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:36,239 past but my project is to encourage people to ask questions about the past 601 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:47,680 that are not explained in mainstream history and archaeologists complained 602 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:53,380 that I was unkind to them in the series and that I should have included many of 603 01:15:53,380 --> 01:15:57,359 them in the series although I did actually include some archaeologists but 604 01:15:57,359 --> 01:16:02,800 my point is that the sea that archaeology dominates completely dominates 605 01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:12,640 childhood the moment a child starts to go to kindergarten starts to learn 606 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,640 something about the past what they're learning has been filtered through 607 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,239 mainstream archaeology the whole teaching of history and prehistory in 608 01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:25,359 schools in universities is all based on the opinions of archaeologists I say 609 01:16:25,359 --> 01:16:31,520 opinions not facts based on the opinions of archaeologists and they 610 01:16:35,899 --> 01:16:40,520 provide a counterbalance of course so my view was that this in making this 611 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:47,359 series I was providing a counterbalance to the over dominant position that 612 01:16:47,359 --> 01:16:52,199 archaeological opinion occupies that it's that it's essential that that be 613 01:16:52,199 --> 01:16:56,600 questioned because archaeology is not physics there's a difference between 614 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:05,960 hard science and the further back you go into the past the more archaeology is 615 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:11,800 based on interpretation of very minimal numbers of artifacts so really with 616 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:17,119 archaeology what we have is the opinion of a group of scholars and we do not have 617 01:17:17,119 --> 01:17:21,199 we do not have many many facts and I don't think the public are fully aware 618 01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:24,880 of that so I hoped with the Netflix series that I would make the public more 619 01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:40,079 are the opinion of the archaeologists becomes dogma yeah it becomes dogma it's 620 01:17:40,079 --> 01:17:44,559 really really very bizarre that there should be so that there should be no 621 01:17:44,559 --> 01:17:50,840 place for dogma in science as I say archaeology the claim of archaeology to 622 01:17:55,359 --> 01:18:02,199 called a science but there is a tendency in also other scientific endeavors for 623 01:18:02,199 --> 01:18:07,720 for a particular outlook to establish itself as the way things are but the 624 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:13,039 the history of science makes it makes it absolutely clear to us that there are 625 01:18:13,039 --> 01:18:19,279 no fixed or firm ideas that ideas change constantly and what was yesterday's 626 01:18:25,159 --> 01:18:28,479 listened to anymore so I don't understand why scientists don't learn more from 627 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:33,199 that that even in the hard sciences everything should be provisional we are 628 01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:38,520 offering ideas we're investigating a complicated problem but what we offer is 629 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:44,000 not necessarily fact it is where we are now and this is what I think archaeologists 630 01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:56,319 have the truth many archaeologists asked actually why even my series was allowed 631 01:18:56,319 --> 01:19:01,720 should never have been given permission to be shown in their view and when you 632 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:06,119 come but when you ask them to give substantive reasons for that they're 633 01:19:06,119 --> 01:19:10,039 incapable of doing so they kind of provide any substantive a reason apart 634 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:19,079 Hancock is wrong and that's a fact this is this is no way of debate and no way 635 01:19:19,079 --> 01:19:24,079 of no way of argument at all and it's a sign of a problem that we have in our 636 01:19:24,079 --> 01:19:28,920 society we're so called experts people who define themselves as experts in a 637 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:34,119 field dominate the field so much that they distort reality and I believe 638 01:19:34,119 --> 01:19:36,640 that's what's happening in the understanding of our past and it was 639 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:47,960 this to make this series and to present controversial ideas to a large global 640 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:52,920 global audience and to set up a global conversation about our past and of course 641 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:57,119 fundamental in the in the past of the world is the Bible that your that you're 642 01:19:57,119 --> 01:20:01,359 translating is a fundamental document which plays a huge role interesting is 643 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:20,920 written in human history human history but and the Bible is the book of one 644 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:26,880 little people exactly well only one little the family of Jacob not of the 645 01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:44,039 contents of the Bible confirms your theories give me some ideas about why 646 01:20:44,039 --> 01:20:50,520 why does it confirm my theories of course because they speak that the Bible 647 01:20:59,039 --> 01:21:04,920 the human kind of this time right of that time yeah yeah and so it's clear yeah 648 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:12,399 there is no discussion right only only the dogmatics yes so it's a it's a 649 01:21:12,399 --> 01:21:18,680 record of communication between people who had advanced technology and the 650 01:21:27,239 --> 01:21:39,760 years ago told me Mauro you know because we are friends you know that I agree with 651 01:21:52,399 --> 01:21:58,739 indeed the the system did used to kill people literally oh yes the Roman Catholic 652 01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:01,199 I received a ballot. 653 01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:02,199 Oh, really? 654 01:22:02,199 --> 01:22:03,199 Yes. 655 01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:04,199 Tell me more. 656 01:22:04,199 --> 01:22:05,199 Many years ago. 657 01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:06,199 You received a bullet. 658 01:22:06,199 --> 01:22:08,199 A bullet, a military bullet. 659 01:22:08,199 --> 01:22:11,199 And that's a threat to you. 660 01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:16,199 Yes, with a letter in which it was written. 661 01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:53,199 But likely nothing happened. 662 01:22:53,199 --> 01:22:55,199 But the threat is there. 663 01:22:55,199 --> 01:22:59,199 And the days of Giordano Bruno are not over then. 664 01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:00,199 Okay, okay. 665 01:23:00,199 --> 01:23:05,199 Fortunately, we are living in other times. 666 01:23:08,199 --> 01:23:18,199 But those times are relatively recent when the church was capable of burning people a... 667 01:23:18,199 --> 01:23:22,199 I find a great deal of hypocrisy at the church in this matter. 668 01:23:22,199 --> 01:23:32,199 I draw your attention, particularly to the Spanish conquest of Mexico between 1519 an... 669 01:23:44,199 --> 01:23:47,199 The Aztecs would carry out acts of human sacrifice. 670 01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:55,199 But not a single one of them was able to contemplate the possibility that burning a 671 01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:59,199 They are sacrificing that entity to what they believe is God. 672 01:24:00,199 --> 01:24:01,199 They were in no position to. 673 01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:07,199 But also Yahweh asked human sacrifice of child. 674 01:24:07,199 --> 01:24:08,199 Tell me more. 675 01:24:08,199 --> 01:24:09,199 Of child. 676 01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:10,199 I didn't know that. 677 01:24:10,199 --> 01:24:12,199 Please talk to me some more about that. 678 01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:46,199 Is it Isaac? 679 01:24:46,199 --> 01:24:54,199 Isaac instructs Isaac to sacrifice his son and then changes his mind at the last minute. 680 01:24:54,199 --> 01:24:57,199 Because it was normal. 681 01:24:57,199 --> 01:24:58,199 It was normal. 682 01:24:58,199 --> 01:25:07,199 And Abraham accepted it as normal because Yahweh wanted to try the fate of Abraham. 683 01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:08,199 Yes. 684 01:25:30,199 --> 01:25:36,199 That means a messenger to stop it. 685 01:25:53,199 --> 01:25:55,199 It was normal. 686 01:25:55,199 --> 01:26:00,199 Very cruel and obnoxious behavior. 687 01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:14,199 So he cannot be the God of love. Absolutely. 688 01:26:14,199 --> 01:26:15,199 No. 689 01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:25,199 He was a God of war. Only a God of war. Not a God, of course, but to use this term. 690 01:26:25,199 --> 01:26:26,199 An entity of war. 691 01:26:26,199 --> 01:26:27,199 An entity of war. 692 01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:28,199 An entity of war. 693 01:26:28,199 --> 01:26:29,199 Who uses war. Fascinating. 694 01:26:37,199 --> 01:26:55,199 Yes. But what is important, and in the conferences, in the lectures, I always say 695 01:26:55,199 --> 01:26:56,199 Right. 696 01:27:01,199 --> 01:27:12,199 I only say that in that book there is no spiritual God. There are the Elohim. 697 01:27:12,199 --> 01:27:13,199 Yes. 698 01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:29,199 He doesn't much care about others. 699 01:27:44,199 --> 01:27:45,199 Right. 700 01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:50,199 Stop. The Bible is this book, nothing else. 701 01:28:06,199 --> 01:28:12,199 You have a book coming out, translated into English. 702 01:28:19,199 --> 01:28:21,199 And its title is? 703 01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:23,199 God's in the Bible. 704 01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:25,199 God's in the Bible. 705 01:28:25,199 --> 01:28:26,199 God's in the Bible. 706 01:28:26,199 --> 01:28:27,199 Okay. 707 01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:28,199 Okay. 708 01:28:28,199 --> 01:28:33,199 So I'm a layman. I know nothing about the Bible. I've read tiny bits of it as a chil... 709 01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:53,199 They are thinking what the Catholic Church think. 710 01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:54,199 But what is that? 711 01:28:54,199 --> 01:28:55,199 God. 712 01:28:55,199 --> 01:29:02,199 But in the traditional Orthodox understanding of the Elohim, they're plural, right? The 713 01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:19,199 So, but in that Bible, in the Greek Bible, and their Orthodox understanding of Elohim... 714 01:29:19,199 --> 01:29:25,199 No, Elohim is always translated as God. 715 01:29:25,199 --> 01:29:26,199 God. 716 01:29:26,199 --> 01:29:30,199 The Elohim in Greek is Theos. 717 01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:54,199 When I had this meeting with those four important theologians, they said all four. 718 01:30:06,199 --> 01:30:21,199 So, I'm sure that the Bible doesn't speak of God, but in that occasion, also those 719 01:30:28,199 --> 01:30:32,199 Many people. 720 01:30:32,199 --> 01:30:50,199 More and more and more. In less than three years in my channel, we have almost 25 721 01:30:56,199 --> 01:31:04,199 Why should anybody believe your interpretation rather than the Orthodox 722 01:31:38,199 --> 01:31:51,199 Okay, but there's a body of biblical scholars around the world who would say and also th... 723 01:32:02,199 --> 01:32:09,199 Why should we assume that you are correct rather than 2000 years of people who've 724 01:33:06,199 --> 01:33:11,199 If everyone can see the translation, why is everyone else wrong? 725 01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:33,199 I simply say that that book doesn't speak of God. It's all. 726 01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:53,199 I don't want to say that God knows it doesn't exist because I don't know it. I don't know. 727 01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:08,199 I believe and I don't speak Hebrew, so I don't know, but I believe Hebrew is much m... 728 01:35:08,199 --> 01:35:10,199 It's much more difficult. 729 01:35:10,199 --> 01:35:14,199 So as I understand it, there's different ways to read a word. Yes. Multiple ways to read... 730 01:35:26,199 --> 01:35:36,199 Because, for example, "kabod" means something easy. 731 01:36:00,319 --> 01:36:11,619 theologians choose the term "glory" and always apply to the term "Kavod" without 732 01:36:23,460 --> 01:36:32,139 the kavod in front because he killed me, but when the kavod passes I have to be 733 01:36:44,979 --> 01:36:54,479 able to control the effects of his glory, so it's ridiculous, so the context says 734 01:37:03,779 --> 01:37:10,379 this term. So I read a book called "Nura Apocalypse" by a guy called Reverend 735 01:37:10,379 --> 01:37:15,819 Danny Nemo and he went into all of this and he talked a lot about the serpent in 736 01:37:15,819 --> 01:37:20,939 the Bible and how in the original Hebrew the word for it he says the 737 01:37:26,399 --> 01:37:31,119 is the serpent deceived Eve but the same word could also mean elevated and 738 01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:36,119 there's different ways of reading the same word and the whole Bible can be 739 01:37:36,119 --> 01:37:41,039 translated a completely different way just choosing different different 740 01:37:52,539 --> 01:38:04,379 attention carefully to some few words and the these words are the most 741 01:38:21,239 --> 01:38:30,279 meaning of this term you can read another book more more more fascinating 742 01:38:43,899 --> 01:38:55,899 interpretation of Hebrew exegesis tells that the serpent had two arms, two 743 01:39:10,359 --> 01:39:22,960 profound knowledge okay not a physical serpent because the Hebrew says they had 744 01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:34,319 translated as deceived or elevated depending on your initial preconceptions 745 01:39:34,319 --> 01:39:38,479 and the story that you want to tell when you're the translator or whoever is the 746 01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:43,319 translator so so the original Bible translators had a had a dogma and idea 747 01:39:43,319 --> 01:39:47,679 when they put it into Greek the story they were going to tell but other people 748 01:39:53,799 --> 01:40:04,960 of the church in the first centuries after Christ that said that the 749 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:16,899 translation of Bible and this theological narrative was a useful 750 01:40:24,859 --> 01:40:29,719 with the Elohim or the serpent receiving or elevating I understand that 751 01:40:29,719 --> 01:40:33,279 because Hebrew is a much more fluid language and you have to pay 752 01:40:33,279 --> 01:40:36,960 attention to context much more you can't put a flat interpretation on a word 753 01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:41,119 is there a correct and incorrect way of translating it or is it meant to be 754 01:40:41,119 --> 01:40:45,679 multi-layered is it meant to mean both deceive and elevate for example but for 755 01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:08,099 Ruach but to to make you understand me well if possible with my English if I 756 01:41:18,619 --> 01:41:31,619 an alcoholic substance I want to say a phantasm I want to say a characteristic 757 01:41:42,539 --> 01:41:52,059 when I when I I'm working with the other person so there are and many other many 758 01:42:02,859 --> 01:42:14,420 that you that help us to understand the real me the real meaning if I if I say 759 01:42:25,179 --> 01:42:35,219 that I am speaking about a phantasm and not about a spirit of team of course in 760 01:42:35,219 --> 01:42:40,819 the Hebrew is the same okay so so it's not that there is multi-layered there is a 761 01:42:44,539 --> 01:42:49,219 saying that the the traditional translation from Hebrew to Greek just 762 01:42:49,219 --> 01:42:57,739 got the context wrong yes but no but but between the Hebrew the the Hebrew Bible 763 01:42:57,739 --> 01:43:05,819 and the Greek Bible there are differences and also important in in many 764 01:43:14,099 --> 01:43:21,339 that didn't correspond to the the the thought of the Hebrew that was in 765 01:43:21,339 --> 01:43:30,460 Babylonia so we can find differences and we find differences but okay so so 766 01:43:30,460 --> 01:43:34,500 you're saying there's no God in the Bible as it was translated from Hebrew to 767 01:43:39,539 --> 01:43:45,619 and they're still a monotheistic people they still believe in one God so if if 768 01:43:45,619 --> 01:43:49,859 the translation is wrong why did the Jews believe that there's one God when 769 01:43:49,859 --> 01:43:53,659 they have the original text why how can they interpret their own Bible wrong how 770 01:43:53,659 --> 01:44:00,619 does that work actually actually the Hebrew are monolithic monolithic not 771 01:44:11,059 --> 01:44:23,899 is Yahweh who is the Elohim who choose them who rules above them and they have 772 01:44:36,379 --> 01:44:40,539 other gods do exist or do they believe there is only one God there are there are 773 01:44:40,539 --> 01:44:52,739 so many currents in the Judaism that you can find every kind of thought in the 774 01:45:01,059 --> 01:45:09,179 the orthodox theories so all are present so in your translations of the Bible 775 01:45:09,179 --> 01:45:13,379 your own your own interpretation of these different words you've come to the 776 01:45:13,379 --> 01:45:18,340 conclusion that there's no God in the Bible at all yes and there is Elohim 777 01:45:24,619 --> 01:45:28,420 you're saying they were just people they were just normal people but they were 778 01:45:28,420 --> 01:45:34,059 vastly more technologically superior see does that imply is there any 779 01:45:34,059 --> 01:45:38,219 implication at all of them being a different species perhaps alien or 780 01:45:38,219 --> 01:45:41,219 something like that or is it just straight up they're normal people who 781 01:45:41,219 --> 01:45:45,899 just like a lost civilization what's your what's your take on that all around 782 01:45:58,299 --> 01:46:08,379 anthropologist substantially every every two three four months discovers another 783 01:46:18,139 --> 01:46:27,979 recently they discovered that that Neanderthal and Homo sapiens united male 784 01:46:27,979 --> 01:46:38,019 and female when before they they told that that was not possible so so 785 01:46:46,739 --> 01:46:52,979 every day but we don't know when but does your interpretation of the Bible 786 01:46:52,979 --> 01:46:59,219 imply that the Elohim are a different species or like alien or are they 787 01:47:07,899 --> 01:47:17,899 the females of the Adamites that the sense of Adam their species their 788 01:47:17,899 --> 01:47:27,699 species could be all the same or the same or very very very very similar 789 01:47:37,059 --> 01:47:41,579 were around even during the time of Moses you said Moses talked to one of 790 01:47:41,579 --> 01:47:47,579 the Elohim when he was escaping since in yes so why is the Bible the only 791 01:47:47,579 --> 01:47:51,539 account of them why isn't there a rich historical record of Elohim outside of 792 01:48:01,819 --> 01:48:10,859 world change what is changing is the name in Semitic in Western Semitic was 793 01:48:23,579 --> 01:48:35,059 in the India the name is Deva in the America your father can tell more 794 01:48:47,779 --> 01:48:54,139 exact exact in the in the north of Europe the Aussie these are very ancient 795 01:48:54,139 --> 01:48:57,939 accounts these are much more ancient than the time of Moses which I think you 796 01:48:57,939 --> 01:49:02,779 said was what 1200 BC something like that or later or later is not sure so is 797 01:49:09,059 --> 01:49:17,379 the Elohim that was rolling it on the on the land of Canaan and and Yahweh had the 798 01:49:17,379 --> 01:49:20,599 the necessity to 799 01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:27,320 to fight with them. And the Bible is clear in narrating these words. Clear, absolutely. 800 01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:46,920 that period, from Moses' period, outside of the Bible? Is there any records? Yes. For 801 01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:46,039 And the king Meshah is quoted in the Bible. So we have a double check. In the same time, 802 01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:58,920 but it's going to be the King James translation or something like that. It's 803 01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:03,320 standard translation that every priest will believe. Is there any way I can read a Bible 804 01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:08,920 as you believe to be the true translation? Does that exist anywhere? Can I read that 805 01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:28,280 So many people ask me to do a Bible with it, but I have no time. 806 01:51:43,079 --> 01:51:45,720 Thank you to you. Thank you to you. Thank you.