1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,160 I'm an internal medicine physician. I've practiced medicine for 21 years, and my background is mostly academic, internal medicine, hospital-based, clinical research, and medical education. 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:17,220 I am going to skip many of the things I wanted to say because I didn't realize it was only five minutes. 3 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,400 Wireless radiation has biological effects, period. 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,400 This is no longer a subject for debate when you look at PubMed and the peer-reviewed literature. 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:33,800 These effects are seen in all life forms, plants, animals, insects, microbes. 6 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,820 In humans, we have clear evidence of cancer now. There is no question. 7 00:00:39,700 --> 00:00:47,840 We have evidence of DNA damage, cardiomyopathy, which is the precursor of congestive heart failure, neuropsychiatric effects. 8 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,340 So 5G is not a conversation about whether or not these biological effects exist. 9 00:00:53,340 --> 00:01:00,100 They clearly do. 5G is a conversation about unsustainable health care expenditures. 10 00:01:00,660 --> 00:01:07,360 Why do I say this? We've been sitting on the evidence for EMR and chronic disease for decades. 11 00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:11,840 And now we are seeing all these epidemics appearing. 12 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,260 So diabetes is the first epidemic. I think most of you know the statistics. 13 00:01:16,860 --> 00:01:17,880 They're very scary. 14 00:01:18,460 --> 00:01:21,940 One in three American children will become diabetic in their lifetime. 15 00:01:22,180 --> 00:01:25,100 And if they're Hispanic females, the number is one in two. 16 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:28,740 So what does this have to do with wireless radiation? 17 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,300 Wireless radiation and other electromagnetic fields, such as magnetic fields and dirty electricity, 18 00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:38,540 have been clearly associated with elevated blood sugar and diabetes. 19 00:01:38,540 --> 00:01:42,600 That is what the peer-reviewed literature says. It is not opinion. 20 00:01:43,420 --> 00:01:48,260 The closer you live to a cell tower, the higher your blood glucose. 21 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,420 That is based on hemoglobin A1C measurements. 22 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:57,200 So the idea with small cells of putting the cells closer to people's homes and bedrooms, 23 00:01:57,700 --> 00:01:59,760 scientifically, is very dangerous. 24 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,920 And from an economic perspective, it's dangerous. 25 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,180 And you may not know this. I was shocked to find this out. 26 00:02:05,180 --> 00:02:13,220 But the way you create a model of diabetes in rats, in the lab, is by exposing them to 2.4 gigahertz. 27 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,660 And this is not for long-term exposure. 28 00:02:18,140 --> 00:02:24,900 So I don't have time to talk about the costs, but the huge problem with diabetes really is chronic kidney disease. 29 00:02:27,460 --> 00:02:33,180 End-stage renal disease, the worst complication of diabetes, leads to hemodialysis. 30 00:02:33,180 --> 00:02:36,940 Hemodialysis is an automatic qualification for Medicare. 31 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:43,960 And if you don't qualify for Medicare, we still have to dialyze the patient. 32 00:02:44,460 --> 00:02:47,820 And the state ends up paying in many different instances. 33 00:02:48,740 --> 00:02:56,260 So renal failure is 1% of Medicare, but it takes up 7% of all Medicare expenditures. 34 00:02:56,260 --> 00:03:01,860 I don't have time to talk about this anymore, but once again, we have... 35 00:03:01,860 --> 00:03:09,500 So the other epidemics that clearly link from the science with electromagnetic radiation are related to mental health. 36 00:03:09,740 --> 00:03:12,920 And this is straight from PubMed. 37 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:14,200 This isn't my opinion. 38 00:03:14,540 --> 00:03:15,500 This is science. 39 00:03:15,820 --> 00:03:16,120 Okay? 40 00:03:16,540 --> 00:03:19,520 For those of us who aren't physicians, what is PubMed? 41 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,460 I'm sorry. 42 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,280 It's just the... 43 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,840 It's our National Library of Medicine. 44 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:26,200 This is where you would go. 45 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:27,740 This is just the peer-reviewed literature. 46 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:31,520 So we have three epidemics that clearly... 47 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,620 They're essentially one epidemic. 48 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:37,160 We have deterioration of mental health in the United States. 49 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,060 And if you look really at the science, what does it show? 50 00:03:41,060 --> 00:03:51,440 And these epidemics are our suicide epidemic, epidemics in violent shootings, and the opioid epidemic. 51 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:52,480 And I don't have... 52 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,600 Five minutes is not the time to talk about this. 53 00:03:54,740 --> 00:03:56,080 This is in the peer-reviewed literature. 54 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,360 I have a file to submit for the record. 55 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,360 But these are facts. 56 00:04:00,500 --> 00:04:00,940 These aren't... 57 00:04:00,940 --> 00:04:03,820 And these are things that have just been glossed over by the wireless industry. 58 00:04:03,940 --> 00:04:06,800 And I really don't have time to talk about them in five minutes. 59 00:04:06,860 --> 00:04:07,560 I wish I did. 60 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,960 But we need to examine our epidemics in the context of our EMF exposures. 61 00:04:13,300 --> 00:04:14,160 What does that mean? 62 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,660 That means that the CDC tracking these epidemics needs to... 63 00:04:20,660 --> 00:04:25,780 We need to start measuring how much radiation are people being exposed to. 64 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:29,060 And before we roll out 5G... 65 00:04:29,060 --> 00:04:30,060 And this means... 66 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,880 There are four kinds of electromagnetic fields that we know are harmful to human health. 67 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:42,040 So radiofrequency radiation, magnetic fields, dirty electricity, and electric fields. 68 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:42,500 Okay? 69 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,600 Our exposure... 70 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,620 Any given person, and all humans are affected by EMFs. 71 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:55,260 Our given exposure has nothing to do with the research that my colleagues are going to cite. 72 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,140 With the National Toxicology Program. 73 00:04:57,620 --> 00:05:02,200 That is an assessment of the risk of one cell phone in the near field. 74 00:05:02,460 --> 00:05:02,700 Okay? 75 00:05:03,780 --> 00:05:04,700 What is our exposure? 76 00:05:04,700 --> 00:05:06,060 In a day. 77 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,200 It's not one cell phone. 78 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,080 It's cell phones. 79 00:05:10,180 --> 00:05:11,740 It's multiple wireless networks. 80 00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:12,800 It's smart meters. 81 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,800 It's cell towers. 82 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,180 It's this sandwich. 83 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,720 And it all adds up. 84 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:24,140 And this is a serious problem for occupational health, public safety, and personal safety. 85 00:05:24,140 --> 00:05:39,580 And I feel that it's irresponsible to be even talking about the Internet of Things and rolling out a new untested technology when we're not even measuring what are our current exposures from the current networks. 86 00:05:39,580 --> 00:05:40,920 Doctor, I appreciate your testimony. 87 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,300 Would you, again, provide us with your credentials? 88 00:05:43,940 --> 00:05:44,780 You said at the beginning. 89 00:05:44,780 --> 00:05:45,040 Yes. 90 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,240 I'm an MD. 91 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,640 I'm board certified in internal medicine. 92 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:55,700 I've been an assistant professor at different medical schools, mostly in New York, most recently the University of Miami. 93 00:05:55,700 --> 00:06:03,080 And I got interested in the electromagnetic fields after my administrator at the University of Miami gave me a new iPhone. 94 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:08,520 I used it for 20 minutes on speaker, and my finger was burning at the end of the call. 95 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,220 So that was years ago. 96 00:06:10,340 --> 00:06:13,800 I started reading about the science and connecting with other scientists. 97 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:18,880 And really, my expertise, I've taken care of a lot of patients with chronic disease. 98 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:32,020 So when I talk about diabetes and, for instance, heart failure, that, you know, the National Toxicology Program shows clear evidence of cardiomyopathy in that study. 99 00:06:32,020 --> 00:06:35,460 In other words, that's a precursor to congestive heart failure. 100 00:06:35,940 --> 00:06:38,360 And I want to just read one thing, if you'll allow me. 101 00:06:38,660 --> 00:06:45,360 This is from the United States Renal Data System, Health Care Expenditures for Persons with Chronic Kidney Disease. 102 00:06:46,460 --> 00:06:57,860 So over half of the 2015 Medicare spending for beneficiaries age 65 and older was for those who had diagnoses of CKD, diabetes mellitus, or heart failure. 103 00:06:57,860 --> 00:07:08,560 All three of these conditions, when you look as an independent scientist, not someone who's funded by wireless, all of those three conditions are linked. 104 00:07:08,740 --> 00:07:12,760 So diabetes and heart failure are linked with EMF exposures. 105 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:14,840 It's very clear. 106 00:07:15,180 --> 00:07:17,620 Doctor, what are your trained medical professional? 107 00:07:17,940 --> 00:07:18,220 Yes. 108 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:19,460 We don't have one on the panel. 109 00:07:19,460 --> 00:07:30,100 What are we to make of the American Cancer Society, for example, telling us there's no evidence of a harmful product? 110 00:07:30,820 --> 00:07:35,660 Well, at this point, there's a national and international 5G appeal. 111 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,200 I don't know how many thousands of people have signed. 112 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,080 But the point is that many of these organizations have conflicts of interest. 113 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:48,020 And I can't speak to, I don't know who's on their board, who made these decisions. 114 00:07:48,020 --> 00:07:53,560 My testimony comes from, I've been reading this literature for years. 115 00:07:54,020 --> 00:08:04,700 And really, I got interested in it because I spent my career taking care of so many patients who were sick in the hospital that when I found out about the links, I was just shocked. 116 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:05,520 I couldn't believe it. 117 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:16,400 So I've read these articles myself and the experts who don't work for telecom and who are in their independent research, everyone comes to the same conclusion. 118 00:08:16,660 --> 00:08:22,020 This isn't, we're not in a place where we should be debating this anymore. 119 00:08:22,340 --> 00:08:24,160 This is exactly what happened with tobacco. 120 00:08:24,620 --> 00:08:25,780 It's the exact same thing. 121 00:08:25,780 --> 00:08:35,280 And really, right now, the only people protecting, the only people who are able to protect Americans are our legislators. 122 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:44,120 Because we don't have any relevant regulatory guidelines to protect human health. 123 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:53,080 The FCC guidelines were developed for short-term exposures, six minutes, 30 minutes, depending on it's a phone or an outdoor exposure. 124 00:08:53,080 --> 00:09:03,180 And they have absolutely no connection to the biological effects that have been very clearly summarized in the bio-initiative. 125 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:06,640 That's a huge document generated. 126 00:09:06,780 --> 00:09:09,300 All of the summaries are there. 127 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,020 And I've got it here for you if anyone wants to read it. 128 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:17,800 I have very concise summaries and abstracts documenting everything that I'm saying. 129 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,560 So I know there are plenty of people here that are probably rolling their eyes. 130 00:09:22,180 --> 00:09:27,400 But, you know, in academic medicine, we have a name for what's happening now with 5G. 131 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,260 This is called, and what has happened with wireless communication. 132 00:09:31,740 --> 00:09:38,440 This is called, you know, 5G is an untested application of a technology that we know is harmful. 133 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,760 We know it from the science. 134 00:09:41,380 --> 00:09:44,400 This is, in academics, this is called human subjects research. 135 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,400 Human subjects research is very tightly regulated. 136 00:09:49,060 --> 00:10:02,320 You can't just roll out some type of a research project on human beings unless, A, you have their informed consent, so they understand the risks and benefits, and, B, you have the approval. 137 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:10,740 Like someone has actually, you know, examined the literature and said, okay, this research project, we believe that it's safe. 138 00:10:10,740 --> 00:10:14,840 There's no evidence in the science to indicate that it would not be safe. 139 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:20,900 We have decades of evidence to show that it is not safe. 140 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,220 Thank you, Dr. Goldberg. 141 00:10:22,620 --> 00:10:23,080 Thank you. 142 00:10:23,580 --> 00:10:28,260 And very briefly, if you can, what do you mean by conflict of interest? 143 00:10:28,260 --> 00:10:36,020 I mean that, so I've taught, one of the things that I taught in medical school is evidence-based medicine. 144 00:10:36,140 --> 00:10:41,000 So teaching medical students and residents how to critically evaluate the literature, the science. 145 00:10:41,620 --> 00:10:46,980 And one of the first things that you teach residents is that you always have to look at the funding. 146 00:10:46,980 --> 00:11:00,120 So, and you can read about it, Marsha Engel, the editor of New England Journal, just wrote a great op-ed in the New York Times about researchers who are funded by private industry. 147 00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:08,320 The results of their research are much more likely to support their, whatever it is that is being funded. 148 00:11:08,620 --> 00:11:10,020 That's, yeah, that's true. 149 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,280 I think Representative Garrett has a question. 150 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,100 Yes. 151 00:11:12,140 --> 00:11:12,640 Good morning, Doctor. 152 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:13,960 Just a really quick question. 153 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,840 What is the normal REMF that an individual could be exposed to? 154 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:28,140 And if these small cells are installed, what is the prediction of how much REMF the human body would experience? 155 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:39,680 And then the second question would be, if we know that REMF is a issue, do we limit the amount of exposure that 156 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:55,500 somebody with cardio issues in the hospitals, whether they're going through a CAT scan or, so are we limiting that because we know that just small cells alone is not the issue? 157 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:58,480 It's, as you talked about earlier, it's the sandwich. 158 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:05,060 So give me the normal levels what the prediction is that the human body would experience moving forward. 159 00:12:05,060 --> 00:12:07,220 Well, I'm so glad that you're asking that question. 160 00:12:08,060 --> 00:12:12,220 And the answer is that, well, no one, no one's measuring. 161 00:12:12,740 --> 00:12:14,760 And that is the problem. 162 00:12:15,220 --> 00:12:16,180 That's the problem. 163 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:24,120 Because we have, and I, the way I think about this is in an occupational health perspective. 164 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:34,100 I think about, because we, people go to work and we, so for instance, your exposure will depend on where, like what you do in a given day. 165 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:44,400 So if one cell phone causes cancer, clear evidence of cancer, DNA damage, heart damage, what happens if you work at an airport? 166 00:12:45,980 --> 00:12:54,660 What happens if you work in a stadium where there are 100,000 people coming to watch a football game and everyone's using their phone at the same time? 167 00:12:54,660 --> 00:13:04,100 So the problem is that we have a very, very systematic, clear, empiric way to measure these exposures. 168 00:13:04,300 --> 00:13:06,520 And it's a discipline called building biology. 169 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,720 And we actually have someone here trained in building biology. 170 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,140 And I asked him to bring the meters. 171 00:13:11,620 --> 00:13:17,480 If anyone after this meeting is interested, I can, I can show anyone exactly how we measure. 172 00:13:17,940 --> 00:13:18,220 Okay. 173 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,700 But that is the problem that we don't measure. 174 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:30,640 And there are certain situations relevant to public safety where we really do need to be measuring with firefighters, with airline pilots. 175 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:41,200 Because when you activate microwave radiation inside an enclosed metal space, you get amplification, you have increased power density. 176 00:13:41,580 --> 00:13:42,300 So think about it. 177 00:13:42,300 --> 00:13:44,260 An airplane, everyone's with their devices. 178 00:13:44,580 --> 00:13:46,300 Every device is emitting radiation. 179 00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:50,960 And the access point is right next to the cockpit, usually. 180 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:52,740 So what does this do to pilots? 181 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,860 What does this do to firefighters? 182 00:13:55,300 --> 00:14:05,140 We already have a submission to the FCC from Susan Foster about firefighters that were unable to function in the line of duty. 183 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,180 This is from 2013. 184 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:12,860 After exposure to a cell tower that was put up near their station. 185 00:14:12,860 --> 00:14:17,420 And they, they also have two-way communication devices that they wear. 186 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:20,180 So we have to measure these exposures. 187 00:14:20,380 --> 00:14:21,660 That is the, the start. 188 00:14:21,780 --> 00:14:30,700 And not go ahead and roll out a whole bunch of internet of things with more, like, more devices that we're not even measuring what we're exposed to now. 189 00:14:31,100 --> 00:14:32,440 Doctor, thanks for your testimony. 190 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,420 Thank you. 191 00:14:33,420 --> 00:14:33,480 Thank you. 192 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:33,560 Thank you.