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I have a lot of questions for even though I've been your student for years and I get to spend

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all the time with you I feel like there was always such a wealth that I can...

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But when you have the opportunity to just put a bright light on me and just question it.

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Yeah exactly!

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I have to take advantage.

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We're going to begin today's video with an exercise.

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If you already know who Keith Reneri and Ellison Mac are, you'll absolutely be able

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to participate in the same way as someone who's coming in completely cold.

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But if you've never heard of these people, all the better.

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So don't look them up.

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The exercise is simple.

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Literally all that we're asking for is your attention.

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So if you're currently consuming this video in a passive manner, listening to it in the background,

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watching it while playing with your phone or what have you, cut that out.

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At least just for this short exercise.

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In a moment, we'll resume playing this conversation for three minutes and all we're asking

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you to do is to pay as close attention to it as you can.

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We're not telling you to look for anything in particular.

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It's just important that you're not in a position to say I wasn't paying attention

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when we pause again and give you the second and final instruction of the exercise.

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I know for myself there are moments in time when I feel like creatively abound.

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And then there are other times when I just feel like the most boring person on the planet

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I can't come up with anything.

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And I was just wondering if you could explain sort of your take on the nature of creativity

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and if there's a process of...

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I can say a bunch of things that are just not creating creativity.

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Creating creativity.

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Creating creativity.

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Is it like a muscle that you're in?

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Or a scientific act.

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Yeah.

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I normally speak of science and creativity as sort of being somewhat opposite.

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But they're not real.

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I mean inherent in science is this notion that we can have free will and there's even

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in science things like the Heisenberg uncertainty principle that talks about our limits

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and how we can observe things and stuff like that.

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But a point is if we have something that we can predict, it becomes not creating

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of it all, it has no free will and it's science.

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And if it seems to have free will, we see it as things, the things parts of it that are

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not predictable and thereby creative.

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It creates.

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It is the thing that comes from it is not a function of that which comes before in any

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way that we can predict.

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It is if this thing births something totally new and unpredictable.

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I hope it's predictable, not creative.

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So of course, we as humans feel we have free will and that's sort of interesting, but

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doesn't mean we do.

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Just means we can't see our own programming enough to say that we're just robots.

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If it ever comes about that we find that we are truly just robots, a tomatah of sorts.

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I think all creativity is out the window then.

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Don't worry, because I just pre-programmed into it.

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Yeah, so that which makes us not a scientific predictable thing is creativity.

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Most people take creativity and, you know, they unfortunately creativity in itself has

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a more rigorous or, I would say, pure aspect.

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Then as with many things and we assume it's love to do this, use it as an excuse.

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You know, there's a saying that talent, it's by showpin' how our talent hits the target,

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no one else can see.

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No one else can hit.

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And genius hits the target, no one else can see.

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So whenever I hit my volleyball, I serve my volleyball off of the court completely.

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It's just genius.

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All right, so now that you've listened to this conversation for three minutes, though it may have felt significantly longer,

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here is the final instruction for the exercise.

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Imagine as you've been watching, a friend has noticed you paying close attention to this conversation,

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though they haven't been able to make out the audio and they've just said to you, hey, what are those two people talking about?

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So now you have to relay the overall meaning of what you've just listened to.

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What do you say?

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If you want, you can even pause now and try to say your answer aloud or write it down.

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But no watching the conversation back, after all, it was only three minutes and you were paying close attention.

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So how hard could it be to summarise an coherent matter?

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Can you do it?

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Our guess is no, which is no slight on you the viewer, because the fact of the matter is,

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in spite of Elis and Max constant expressions of wonder, there really isn't anything too paraphrase.

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Because over the course of that three minutes, Ketraneri essentially said nothing.

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But his ramblings are a rather special kind of nothing, as you actually have to pay attention to notice the nothingness.

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When a person who is cognitively impaired rambles, we all immediately realise it for what it is.

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Because this syntax is broken and the thoughts they put for it are often naked the bizarre,

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with one sentence not even being clearly related to the next, they're just,

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well lack of a more delicate word, crazy.

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There are a lot of disparaging labels that we can and will apply to Ketraneri,

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but crazy certainly isn't one of them, and so his ramblings have a sort of paradoxical quality.

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They are aimless, yet calculated, non-sensical, yet coherent,

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because when we contend he didn't say anything, we don't mean that in a literal sense.

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Technically the conversation can be summarized.

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Ellison Mack wants Ketraneri to explain his take on the nature of creativity.

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Reneri then expounds that while in some ways science and creativity could be said to be opposites,

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in other ways they are also linked.

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While transitioning to his explanation of this, he briefly asserts that the notion of human

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free will is quote inherent in science and named drops heisenberg's uncertainty principle.

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He then states that his point is essentially that predictability is the opposite of creativity,

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so free will equals not predictable equals creativity basically.

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Then he uses over whether or not human beings really do have free will, or whether that may

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just be an illusion, as we cannot observe our own quote programming, a concept and philosophy

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known as determinism.

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He conclude that if we were to find that free will does not exist, this would end the notion

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of creativity as we know it.

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No free will equals total predictability equals no creativity basically.

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Without really putting a finer point on the importance of all of this, Reneri then begins

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talking about how we sometimes use creativity as an excuse, sort of like pointless originality.

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We cut the one under half our conversation short before we could unpack that much more,

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because we can only subject you to so much.

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But you get the point.

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It's not that what Reneri is saying does not strictly speak in makes sense.

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He is speaking in plain English and all of the words are in the right order, so as to form

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discernible thoughts.

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It's just that those thoughts provide absolutely no insight into the human experience or

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anything else for that matter.

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What so ever?

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But when Reneri's empty words are spoken with the sort of knowing pattern he's mastered,

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combined with his semi-casual yet professorial appearance, and the added benefit of an attractive

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young woman sitting across from him who seems to be hanging on to his every word.

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An illusion is created that what he is saying may be deeply profound.

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It's an illusion that many sociopathic cult leaders like Kithrineri become a dipped at

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creating.

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Rather than actually providing genuinely deep insights, they instead present a sort of blank

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canvas that devoted followers then take a imaginary paradigm shifting lessons and sometimes

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the very meaning of life from.

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You can literally watch that process in real time in this video, as Elis and Mak is not

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just a co-conspirator in the scam, though she certainly is that also.

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But a genuine true believer in the utter bullshit being spouted at her.

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One would say authenticity is being as you are and expressing as you are, at least to some

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degree.

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And as you are, of course, to some of your whole past.

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So when someone's being authentic, you get the feeling that not only that there's a person

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there in the moment, but somehow you reach into their very essence and you meet a unique

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individual.

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I don't know why, let me see what it cry.

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It's a beautiful.

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So who is Elis and Mak?

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And how did she find herself in a place where the sort of drivel she just heard would

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make her want to cry?

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Well, her story is both sensational and mundane, and in order to better understand it, it's

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crucial to explain how people are drawn into cults in general.

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Before we get into that, we should quickly outline what a cult is.

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That's a question that's been subject quite a lot of debate over the years, but for the purpose

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of this video, a cult is defined as, a group, either religious or secular, that endeavours

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to recruit individuals, indoctrinate them into the group's worldview, and subsequently

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exert control over their lifestyle, relationships, and finances.

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While this definition may not be perfect, it should serve to capture the sorts of groups

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that come to most people's minds when they think of the word cult, as well as exclude groups

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that are sometimes controversially branded as cults, but can be plausibly argued to be relatively

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benign.

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Now, while there is no absolute cookie cutter profile for the sort of person who is drawn into

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a cult, there is about as close to one as possible for the sort of person who is not.

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Imagine someone raised an unstable household who finds it for filling the shooting life,

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leading to steady employment that allows them to support themselves, as well as the people

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they love, who love them and turn.

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The person you just pictured is very unlikely to wind up moving to a remote compound, handing

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over their life savings to a man who claims to channel the spirit of an ancient healer named

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censor, and going on to chant mantras in a made-up language for just about every waking hour

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of the day, until several years later when the compound is rated by federal authorities

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responding to multiple reports of sex abuse.

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At this point you might feel like we have just prescribed a cult avoidance strategy of just

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be perfect, but if you look close to the profile we gave, there is no circumstance or attribute

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we assigned our hypothetical cult of earth into the jewel, that is all that remarkable.

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The upbringing we gave them was merely stable, the nature of their employment just steady,

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and they had love.

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There is enough in there for many to in the unfortunately, but we are not talking

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to pying the sky-life aspirations here.

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Now take note of some desirable attributes that did not make it into the profile.

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We never mentioned physical attractiveness, fitness or riches, fame and even power didn't make

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the cut.

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Nor did intelligence or higher education.

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The sorts of people who are recruited into cults often on a surface level and naturality

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have a lot going for them, but they also just about invariably have some kind of void to

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they might have had a bad breakup and be dealing with feelings of rejection and a fear of

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never being able to find someone else, they might have suddenly lost a job and be dealing with

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the dread of an uncertain future, they might be someone who doesn't have one specific crisis moment

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to point to, but has found themselves in a place where they just don't see the meaning in it all,

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and desperately want to find their place in the world.

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Put more simply, they are uning to be happy.

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Which brings us to the question of intelligence.

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When you look at cult members in their final fully indoctrinated form,

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it's easy to think of them as being stupid or extremely gullible.

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And this video contains that the vast majority of cult recruitees are in fact gullible.

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But unlike intelligence, gullibility is not necessarily in innate quality,

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and when an intelligent person finds themselves in a place where they're

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uning to be happy, it is remarkable just how gullible they can be.

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And so once a cult has found their mark, the next step in the indoctrination process is to provide

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a first fix, a feeling of release or relation. But one that is fleeting, there is no magic

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pill for eternal happiness, but if there was, it would be of no use to a cult, as it wouldn't

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provide much of an incentive for people to come back or stick around. There are all kinds of

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methods for delivering a first fix. But one of the more vividly illustrative ones can be found in

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the Church of Scientology. An extremely controversial religion found in 1954 by science fiction writer

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El Ron Hubbard. I wondered Mr Hubbard, if you could explain simply to a lemum, what Scientology is?

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I think that'd be a relatively easy idea, because it's actually a subject which is designed

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for the layman. And if you couldn't explain it to the layman, you would have a very difficult time

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of him. They subject to name, in steel, which means knowing how to know in the full sense of the word

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ology, which is study of. So it is actually study of knowingness. That is what the word itself means.

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The same, to me, that doesn't mean very much. I understand that. What does it do for you in theory?

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It increases one's knowingness. But if a man were totally aware of what was going on around him,

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he would find it relatively simple to handle any altances in that. Even after three hours of talking,

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we never got an explanation from him that we could understand. And we won't waste any time trying to

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convey what Scientology is and a manner that can be understood. Because for this video, it's

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beside the point when it comes to one of the key mechanisms of recruitment. Scientology is by far

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the most successful and widespread organization profiled in this video. And so there are all sorts of ways

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a given person might be introduced to the church. It could be through a friend, a person handing

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out pamphlets on the street, or even by finding themselves in one of the many Scientology run

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drug rehab clinics throughout the world. Like any successful cult, they're adept at putting themselves

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in close proximity to the vulnerable. Regardless of how you come into contact with the church,

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one of the first things you'll find yourself doing if you agree to give their way of life a try

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is sitting down for an auditing session. Scientology's mechanism for delivering a first fix.

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Auditing is a relatively simple if not odd looking procedure. It almost always involves the use of a

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device called an emitter. A machine hooked up to two cylindrical electrodes held by the subject being

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audited that Scientologists claim measures the quote mental mass into energy of the subject,

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assisting the auditor and monitoring their progress. The following scripted training video

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that explains the method and reported benefits of auditing for whatever reason omits the emitter,

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which finally enough is appropriate as there's no scientific evidence the device actually does

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anything more than register changes in the electrical conductance of the skin. So it's

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absence when do anything to detract from the illustration of what people are supposed to get out of the

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exercise. In auditing the person running the session is called the auditor. The person receiving

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auditing is called a preclear because he is not yet been cleared of his reactive mind.

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The auditor assures the preclear that he will know everything that happens. We will begin the session

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now. You will remain aware of everything which goes on. Have the preclear close his eyes.

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All right close your eyes. The auditor has to ensure that anything said or done during the session

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will have no force or control over the preclear at a later time after the session.

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In the future when I utter the word cancelled, everything that I have said to you while you're

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an authority session will be cancelled and will have no force with you. The auditor has to locate

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and return the preclear to an incident. Locate an incident that you feel you can comfortably face.

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Okay. Now we come to the fifth step. Having the preclear re-experience the incident from beginning to

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end, telling the auditor about it as he goes along. Go through the incident and say,

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what is happening as you go along. I'm in a meeting and I'm just feeling stressed out.

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The preclear has returned to the incident going through it as it is happening, not simply remembering

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it. I just feel tired like I need to go lie down. And so I excuse myself from the mirror.

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Half the preclear go back to the beginning of the incident again. Each time the preclear goes through

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the incident, its negative influence over him is reduced. Go back to the beginning and go over it.

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Pick up whatever additional data you can contact. The auditor is listening for new information coming

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out of the incident. As long as new data is coming out, the incident is reducing. Oh yeah,

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an ambulance drives by outside and the guy, one of the guys goes up to close the window and I'm

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ever thinking to myself, I'm so tired. My eyes are so tired. It's like I can't see.

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Continue to run the incident until the preclear is cheerful about it. When the preclear is cheerful

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about running that incident, they have the preclear locate another incident that he can comfortably

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face. Let's find another incident that you feel you can comfortably face. The time I broke up with my

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girlfriend to this day, I do not understand why I did that. All at this new incident,

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by continuing the procedure with step five, followed by step six A. Go through the incident and say,

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what's happening as you go along? Well, it started out great. I mean, I went to pick her up at

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her house for dinner and it was pouring rain. Run the preclear through the incident as many times

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as it takes to bring the preclear to the point where he is cheerful about it. And we started driving

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and some guy runs out into the middle of the road. I almost hit him. And I just started to feel

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really stressed out. It's the same thing. I'm thinking to myself, this relationship is getting too

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serious. And life is too short. If the preclear does not seem to be able to uncover any more about an

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incident, then find out from the preclear if there was an earlier incident. Similar to the one

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you were auditing. Is there an earlier incident similar to the one we are auditing?

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Yeah, there is my accident. Go through the incident and say, what is happening as you go along?

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Driving home, I'm coming home from a business trip. It's late. I'm tired. There's this storm

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brewing up ahead. There's thunder and lightning. And then a newspaper comes from out of the blue.

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And lands on my windshield. I can't see. By the time it blows off, I'm heading straight for a tree.

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As long as new data is still coming out of the incident, the auditor needs to continue to run

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the incident using steps five and six A. What are you here? I hear a hissing sound. I guess that's

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this is the steam from the radiator. Good. Continue. It's blood coming down my face. I can hear a car

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going by and someone says, oh my god. And something about getting an ambulance, I can hear the

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door chime going. I open the door. Yeah, I open just before I blacked out. I tried to open that door,

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but I couldn't get out. And then they got me out. They got me on a stretcher. Yeah,

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someone starts talking. I got my head as throbbing. Someone says something. Yeah,

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stress is killing me. This stress is killing me. They're talking. One of them's talking about

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the dropping is girlfriend. Life is short, you know. Life is short. That's

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that's where I said to my girlfriend when I broke up with her. That's, but that wasn't,

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that wasn't me. I didn't want to break up with my girlfriend. And and the stress is killing me

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that's something that I always say, but that, that was those two guys in the ambulance.

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This is the end of the auditing session. The preclear is bright, cheerful, and the end gram has a

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race. This is a good time to end offer today since he's really doing well. You don't want to continue

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the session of the preclear as had a win. Always end on a high note. So what the hell did we just

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watch? Well, first of all, a scripted video that naturally depicts an absolute ideal for how the

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church of Scientology would want an auditing session to be portrayed. Most sessions don't actually

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result in the subject recovering memories that miraculously explain decisions they're a greater

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what have you. But in the main, what the video demonstrates is a form of exposure therapy.

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Dressed up with unnecessary jargon and additional steps to make it seem like an original invention.

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The idea is that an unpleasant memory can only be so unpleasant for so long a stretch of time

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before the emotional impact of it begins to diminish, at least for the time being. So an

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auditor sits you down and has your a call an unpleasant incident. But always an unpleasant incident.

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That you feel you can comfortably face. Not something so unpleasant might actually make you a

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rig. They don't want you running away, so you talk through this memory that's been bothering you

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once. Then again, recalling any details you might have left out. Then again, and again, and again,

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and again, until you basically don't have the emotional energy to even care about it anymore.

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Put like that, it sounds rather mundane. Which it is? But from your perspective in the moment,

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something that's been bothering you has all of a sudden been rendered totally insignificant.

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You feel like a weight has been lifted off your shoulders and you start to think that maybe

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these people might be on to something. Over time, once the repetition and juiced numbness has worn off,

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the memory might start to bother you again. But there's just a sign you're not truly clear yet

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and need more auditing. It might sound like a scam to your friends and family, but you know the

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technology works because you experienced it yourself. And at this point basically they've got you.

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So the next thing they need to worry about is retention. Like any cold or even mainstream

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religion for that matter, Scientology has some turnover. With members periodically becoming disillusioned

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one way or another before leaving the flock, one of the most effective ways to curtail

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a colds exit rate is to manage the pace of indoctrination, introducing recruits to some of the

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groups more colourful teachings, only after a period of time with their deemed to be sufficiently

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invested to accept said teachings. Put another way, save the really crazy shit for later.

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Bruce, what is our T3? It's basically a type of exorcism. You are removing from your body or

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attached to you in some way, spiritual beings that are stuck there and they're stuck there because

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of an incident that happened 75 million years ago. There was a place that that looked like earth

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and these people were packaged up by this crazy galactic leader Zeno. Box them up in boxes through

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them into space plans and I took these people because I dumped them and then they settled

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up hydrogen bombs on the top of each primary volcano. And that those people that were blown up

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are now what composers and makes up our bodies, right? Yeah. It's insane. Yeah. But we all did it.

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Lea Rimini isn't the only former Scientologist to cite the revelations of OT level 3 and the

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Intergalactic Warlord Zeno, as a turning point in the way they viewed Scientology over all.

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So it makes sense the church keeps such things close to their chest.

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It's been claimed as little as 5% of church members even reach OT level 3. And those that do

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make it are taught that premature exposure to the information can cause some to be inflicted with

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illnesses such as pneumonia and even cancer, as evidenced by people like Rimini, even keeping

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the material that guarded isn't enough to eliminate and certitude. But that's only half the point

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behind why Colts often withhold their most extreme tenants from the attention of members until

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much later down the line after they sign up. The other vital benefit of the approach is that by

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the time a member reaches OT level 3, they will be invested in the church in ways that transcend belief

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in its teachings. Colts have a way of slowly encouraging more and more isolation from influences

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outside of them. Over a period of years, if you've gradually built more elicir and tire social

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circle around the church, perhaps met an intimate partner through it and even raised children in it.

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Well, they could sit you in a room and tell you your great grand malwazino and you'd have a lot of

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reason to go along with it. To not, would be to leave the church, which would effectively be to

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throw away your entire life. Beyond material consequences, when a person has been emotionally

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invested in a cult for long enough, a profound sunk cost-fellacy is liable to be instilled in their

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psyche. The idea that one really invested years, sometimes even decades of their life,

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and to what is essentially no more than a regimen of watered down talk therapy, with a top secret

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piece of mediocre sci-fi behind it, is just too bitter of a pill for many to swallow, and once

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someone is far enough down the rabbit hole of a cult, they can reach a point of no turning back

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with a follow-through on their bizarre beliefs, as both confounding and grave.

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Hello, I need to report an anonymous tip, so do I talk. Okay, this is regarding what?

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This is regarding a master's role, and I'm going to give you the address.

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On March 26th of 1997, a shockwave went through international media upon the discovery of 39 bodies,

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an immense and rancho-centre fake California. The deceased were all found to have down

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the lethal cocktail of phyno-barbitol and vodka, along with a serving of chocolate pudding,

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a few chose apple sauce instead. Working in teams over the course of three days, one group

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would take the poisonous solution, fast and a plastic bag over their head in order to suffocate,

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and lie down on their assigned bunkbed. Their associates would then see to it that a purple cloth

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was draped over their face and torso of privacy. The final two of the 39 being denied that

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dignity for obvious reasons. The event was reported in the media as being a mess to aside.

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A characterisation accepted by roughly 99.99% of people, but to the adherence of the teachings

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of Hivon's Gate is just one more misrepresentation of what they have come to know as reality.

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It is the belief of those people that while the human bodies found in that mansion may have died,

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this was just a necessary step to facilitate the transportation of the spirits held within,

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to a spaceship trailing the comet Hale Bob that had that year become visible to the naked eye

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from planet Earth. An event they took as a sign that it was finally time for the departure,

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to what they referred to as the evolutionary level above human in the literal Hivon's.

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The voluntary killing of their physical bodies was therefore no more a suicide than the booking

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of a plane ticket. What figure could be so well spoken and charismatic to convince dozens of people

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of such a proposition? This guy. We can't enter that kingdom by

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and no one can enter that kingdom by trying to live a good life in this world and then when this

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world's life takes your body, then that's when you enter. The only time that kingdom can be entered

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is when there's a member of that kingdom, members or members of that kingdom, who have come into

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the human kingdom incarnated as we have and offer you clarification of that information

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and then help you get your mind into your body so that when it when the time comes to leave,

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then we help you also get out of your human body so that you might enter a body of the next

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evolutionary kingdom. His name is Marshall Apple White though his followers know him as

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and maintain his visited planet Earth on several occasions prior to the 20th century as a

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representative of the evolutionary level above human. Through vessels you may know as Jesus Elijah,

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Moses, Enoch and Adam. Though on this visit, he was not sent to serve alone. You might wonder why

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this chair is as prominent as it is in the picture beside me and this chair represents

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my partner. So this is T's chair and this is I hope that T occupies this chair many times

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that I might not be, even though I might not be able to see T but still I'm uncomfortable if I am

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the center of attention without a reminder to me and to my students that my partner

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is with me beside me and since T is in the next level and no longer occupying a human

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vehicle, then sometimes when I ask T questions I may not get an immediate answer and I might get an

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answer a little later I may get answer days later or a month later depending upon the question.

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Sometimes I may not get an answer at all if the answer was inappropriate. The T that have a white

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refers to as a woman named Bonnie Nittles. She co-founded Hivins Gate with Apple White in the 70s,

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though it wasn't called Hivins Gate at the time and there were some rather notable differences

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to their prophecies of a coming as sentient to the next level as well. When they were actively

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touring the nation recruiting people into their group, there was no talk of an eventual need to

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kill your physical body in order to make the trip. Rather T and O promised that a spacecraft

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would come down to Earth, very much visible to those that did not adhere to the teachings of Hivins

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Gate and transport those who had been spiritually awake enough to see the truth up to the next

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level with Apple on. So unlike the small stepping recruitment strategy with cover to not putting

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the crazy stuff up front, Hivins Gate took more of a niche approach, focusing on those who had a

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let's just say particularly open mind. And the shift from the externally verifiable spaceship

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to the thinner barbatoles means of transportation to the next level. Was not as far as we can

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observe part of a sinister long con either. From their words and actions over the years,

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it appears that T and O were indeed true believers, but their theology ran into a problem when

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Bonnie Nittles fell victim to cancer, dying of the disease in 1985.

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One of their leaders' bodies dying in such a typical human manner put a bit of a dampener on

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the notion of a physical spacecraft taking the whole group together. But the meat of T and O's

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teachings were still on point as far as Hivins Gate were concerned. T had simply fulfilled

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all purpose that she could have on Earth and was recalled to the next level. No longer needing

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her physical vehicle, it was essentially discarded via the cancer. Do on the other hand,

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still had stuff to do. The death of Bonnie Nittles therefore is seen by many as being one of the

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leading catalysts for what we're watching right now. With the approach of Hale Bob,

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the Hivins Gate away team had been given the sign that their physical bodies too must perish as

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part of their key to unlocking Hivins Gate. Suicide is separating from the kingdom of God when the

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kingdom of God has reached out and offered life to you. That is suicide. So to us, it would be

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suicide to not leave of the life vegetation, everything of the planet is about to be recycled

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because it needs to be refurbished. It'll be a miracle if this tape ever is permitted to become

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knowledge that could spread across the world to even give individuals a chance to know what we have to

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say about what you might have been offered or what you might even still be offered. If this

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connects with you, I want you to see the class that's sitting in front of me. And I'm very proud of

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these students of the kingdom of heaven, of the kingdom of God, of the evolutionary level above

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you. They're about to leave and they're excited about leave. Now, if you would hold your patch,

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maybe we're exhuming on the patch that great, see, turn it the other way a little bit. If you know

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the opposite way a little bit, there you go. Now we don't have, there we go. A sea says heavens gate,

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a way team. And that's exactly what that means to us. We've been away and now we're going back

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okay, go back to Gemmody. If you would. Okay, thanks Gemmody. Now let's go to Devotey.

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Hi Devotey, look at the camera. You look great. Okay, now let's go to our lody.

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In case you were wondering, the members of heaven's gate do not just all coincidentally have

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uncommon names ending an odie. All were assigned new names beginning with two to three letters

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that we unique teach member and ending with odie. Why? Sociologists cite this as a mechanism of

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brainwashing, cementing a member's psychological isolation from the rest of society by taking their

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given name and replacing it with a uniform identity that conforms with the cult. According to

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heaven's gate, odie is just a suffix for a child of the next level. Okay, and then there's

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odie next to him. We call him odie because he's he's a little taller than odie who happens to be

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very, very tall and we've had a lot of fun teasing him. What you just heard was a slip-up that

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diverged enough from heaven's gate doctrine for apple white to feel the need to correct himself

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in a separate recording. I realized when I was talking about the classmates and the camera was on

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00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:50,400
them individually after I spoke to you that I thought myself a number of times realizing I had spoken

414
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:58,640
of the vehicle that they were wearing as them and I was very uncomfortable realizing I had done

415
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:05,360
that because that's something we were hard to try to break the habit of because we know that the

416
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:12,320
body is not as speed. We took the body when the body was even mature and now we're going to

417
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:20,400
leave the body. But I remember when I spoke to you about tall odie and I said because he's so tall

418
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,760
or I think I might have said that instead of always remembering to say because this vehicle

419
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:32,400
is so tall. It's an illuminating mistake because it isn't one that you would be prone to making.

420
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:38,960
If the nature of being apple white just described was literally true, take the example of an actual

421
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:46,240
vehicle for instance. Say you saw Marshall apple white driving a hammer. You would say Marshall's

422
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:52,400
carous big, never Marshall is big and more importantly you would not need to make a conscious

423
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:58,400
effort to say the right thing. Describing people as being separate from their vehicles comes naturally

424
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,560
because it's just reality. But in congruent he's like this don't seem to unsettle members of

425
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:11,440
Hivinsgate one eyeoter and this is the most significant factor that makes this cult such a fascinating

426
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:17,120
case study. With many cults you can see cracks showing in some adherence now and again.

427
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:24,400
The members of Hivinsgate all indoctrinated and adulthood show no signs of any such misgivings

428
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,520
and their accident of use. Every person that you're about to see here is fully aware that they'll

429
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:35,520
be taking the lethal cocktail in a matter of days. You've probably heard of the news meet a story in

430
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:42,560
75 about a bunch of people disappearing from all port Oregon. Well first of all here and not belong.

431
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,920
I'm here and I'm very very happy here. I don't know what I did to deserve to be here

432
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:59,600
and I'm embarrassed that I can't express without getting emotional. How good I feel about what I'm doing

433
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,080
and how good I feel about being here. I just want to say how thankful I am to

434
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:13,680
dough and tea for helping me and taking me under their wing and showing me the ways of the next level

435
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,960
and all my classmates have been so great to me and all the problems I've caused.

436
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:24,000
This particular vehicle that I'm using. I know it had a deposit in it because from the time

437
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,840
it was just a little kid. They looked around and observed what was seeing around it and it felt like

438
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:35,200
something was missing. There was nothing significant to what it saw they don't do in the lives

439
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:42,400
it saw going on around it. To end all sad they had a formula of how to get out of the human kingdom

440
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,720
to a level of love human and I said to myself that's what I want. That's what I've been looking for.

441
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:53,520
I don't care if this is some, you know, maybe they're crazy for all I know but I don't have

442
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:59,280
any choice but to go for it because I've been on this planet for 31 years and there's nothing

443
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:06,560
here for me. The moment I saw them I just at first I think the vehicle was frightened. It's

444
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,600
the mind that's coming into the vehicle, recognize them and be under shadow of the doubt.

445
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,000
I knew what I had to do. This vehicle knew it didn't fit in this world but after I met my

446
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:24,160
older members saw them through these eyes, heard them through these years, I knew where I belonged.

447
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:30,800
I recognized them. The little people I had been looking for had come to take me home.

448
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:37,920
I'm one who left the class after having been in it for six years and returned into the world.

449
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:45,200
It's up to each individual to prove to the next level that the next level is all that they want

450
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,640
and that there's nothing in the human kingdom to cope with here. Those who might have recognized

451
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:56,880
the next level but turned away from it for one reason or another, anywhere whether in a meeting

452
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:03,200
or having been with us, may need to plead repeatedly like I did over a long period of time

453
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:11,680
to show that they're sincere but if you not come into war and continue asking to serve

454
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,680
the next level, they won't suffice. I don't know if you remember though we're talking about

455
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:23,600
that some students had chosen and proven to him that they desired to have their vehicles neutered

456
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:29,840
and I'm one of those students that did that. I can't tell you how free that has made me feel.

457
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:36,320
In all reality, I can't see that this next step that I'm prepared to take and looking forward to

458
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:41,600
taking is anything more than a clinical operation. I can't see any other way but the fully

459
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:47,120
expected laying down this vehicle is going to be anything but great for me.

460
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:54,240
I do want to recommend on our website. We have a picture of what we feel like I remember in the next

461
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:59,680
level might look like. We don't know if it's entirely accurate but we feel like because of the way

462
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:06,800
dough helped bring that picture about and that he feels so good about it that it must be very close

463
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,760
but we're looking forward to being in the next level bodies. Now you're going to find this old

464
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:17,200
crummy vehicle in a bunk someplace that I'll be going I'll probably be watching when you

465
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:23,600
you check it out and observe your responses and your reaction when you look at these vehicles and

466
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,360
there are nothing but containers that we've used in board for the short amount of time.

467
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:33,120
As a quote monastery, we've had a little business that we call higher source from which we

468
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:38,240
earned our income so we could consume while we were on this planet and there have been more than one

469
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:44,720
client who is suspected that there is a little something unusual about this and one particular individual

470
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:50,480
came up just one day and said something like I'm halfway expecting one of these days that you're

471
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:56,400
going to come through the door and say something like the big guy upstairs or centers you know to work

472
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,120
with you. To that individual I'd like to say this time that God did have a message for you but it was a

473
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:06,960
bit premature when you asked and we'd like to let you know that he's had an iron you and when

474
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:18,400
last thing we'd like to say is 39 to be up thank you. As you watch the serene demeanor of the

475
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,440
heavensgate members all speaking without a hint of discernible fear that they could be wrong and

476
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,960
might really just die in a day or two. There's one simple question that may keep coming to the forefront

477
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:36,640
of your mind. How? How could anyone little one dozens of people be exposed to a theology is

478
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:42,800
nakedly goofy as that of heavensgays and not just believe it but find themselves in a place of such

479
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,560
profound conviction that they're willing to do a thing like this before we take our best shot at

480
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:54,160
partially explaining that we have to acknowledge it's genuinely tricky task. When you look at the

481
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,720
available footage of Apple white and Nittles recruitment meetings they don't even present as

482
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:04,720
particularly charismatic though the weird alien like manna they present coupled with the insatiable

483
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:11,200
fascination some have with UFOs could create some fertile ground for a lion not at all heavensgate

484
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:17,360
members did have a preexisting obsession with aliens and the like. Furthermore multiple members have

485
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:24,000
reported converting instantaneously rather than being gradually persuaded they experienced a

486
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:30,400
sort of revelation that felt like it had been sent to them from the heavens. I had decided to join

487
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:37,840
after that meeting right. So I went around to people that when my friends I told them that I felt like

488
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:45,040
I sat in front of the equivalent of Jesus it was like I was ready I had this program in my mind you know

489
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:50,640
that this was gonna happen and that's what I actually t-endowed explained to us later. It ended up

490
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:59,600
being that 34 individuals at that meeting of approximately 200 or so and that abjoining with T&O

491
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:05,360
because of that meeting. It's like a life which going off. But it wasn't any sound or anything

492
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:11,200
with it or you know I didn't see the flashes in this you know just sky or visions or anything.

493
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,720
It was just I felt like my life I didn't feel like my life

494
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:27,520
flashed in front of my eyes as being leading me to this moment to where I had that choice

495
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,920
and that I had no question about that this was right thing for me to do.

496
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,680
Assuming such descriptions are not just backward rationalizations of a moment that

497
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:45,040
next well that he felt more mundane at the time there does not exist a simple and demonstrable

498
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,560
explanation for how Apple white knittled, where able to induce these sorts of experiences and people.

499
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,440
Please don't take that as this video as way of saying maybe there really was a spaceship.

500
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,240
It's just that while we are endeavoring to bring as much clarity to the sorts of psychological

501
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:06,320
mechanisms that underlie cults as we can it has to be acknowledged in some ways people are just

502
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:13,040
very strange and not everything about precisely what drives certain experiences and beliefs is known.

503
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,600
So what exactly made people sign up even though Hivinsgate were bold enough to put

504
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,960
there's a new story up front remains somewhat of a mystery in terms of what solidified their

505
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:29,280
commitment to the cause that we can shed some light on. On their website Hivinsgate

506
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,640
present behavioral guidelines for students of their classroom it reads like a quintessential

507
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:41,120
brainwashing regiment. They have a succumbless of what they deem to be major offenses knowingly

508
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:48,240
disobeying instructions, allowing any prolonged actions or thoughts of quote sensuality. Hivinsgate

509
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:53,680
is a strictly a sexual cult, mating is not part of how the next level operates so engaging in

510
00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:00,320
anything like sticks is a serious impediment to graduation and at the very top of the list is deceit

511
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:07,040
of any kind. Specifically named checking a failure to confess for even as long as one day the

512
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:13,920
commission of another offense either major or lesser among Hivinsgate's lesser offenses

513
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:20,560
trusting your own judgment, responding defensively to classmates or teachers having likes or

514
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:27,760
dislikes, desiring attention or approval, exercising poor control of thoughts running through your

515
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:36,640
head, vibrating femininity or masculinity in any way and having inappropriate curiosity. In short,

516
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:42,080
Apple-wide nittals constructed an environment in which individuality and critical thinking was

517
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:49,600
systematically stomped out. At any hour of any day if you so much as dare to day dream you must report

518
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:55,040
the offense as soon as possible, at least you commit the greatest offense of deceit. It is about

519
00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,320
as extreme an example of thought control as you'll ever find. And if the people over seeing

520
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,960
such a program are teaching you that your spirit is going to be transported to a spaceship,

521
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,680
you're going to be very likely to believe that with every fiber of your being after enough

522
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,840
time sticking to the program. Yes, the certainty of the away team and their

523
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,400
exident of use looks crazy, but when you take into account just how thoroughly they've been

524
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,960
conditioned not allow contradicting thoughts and perhaps it would be crazy for the level of

525
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:29,200
conviction to be anything less than 100%. And this is a crucial point when it comes to understanding

526
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:35,040
cults in the main. The outwardly bizarre stuff like intergalactic theologies is often what grabs

527
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:40,640
our attention, but it's the mechanisms of thought control that we often don't see, that are truly

528
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,680
at the heart of what makes the behavior and choices of cult members that seem so baffling to us,

529
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:51,280
normal to them, even teachings of a higher power or equivalent to heaven aren't necessary

530
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,560
if the cult leader has the right game plan in place to slowly take control of the thoughts and

531
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,840
actions of recruits. Well, the biggest limitation that women have is that they're women.

532
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,520
And the biggest limitation that men have is that they're men.

533
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:12,080
Don't think we forgot about these two. It was mentioned at the beginning of this video that

534
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:17,280
not all people who are captured by cults are facing what pretty much anyone would characterise

535
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:23,760
a period of crisis and seem to have a lot going for them. Ellison Mack is a prime example of this.

536
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,360
Not only was she a young, attractive woman, she had also attained something that many others

537
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:35,440
fortunate enough to have those attributes failed to, a successful acting career. Most notable for

538
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:42,480
her role is Chloe Sullivan on the hit TV series Smallville. But success and fulfilment are very

539
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,120
distinct from one another. Like anyone, Ellison Mack had insecurities,

540
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:52,160
stemming from a number of sources, such as having never attended college as a consequence of taking

541
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:57,680
the smallville role the age of 18 and so she found herself in a hit space many young people with

542
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:04,160
early success experience, a sense that she had at all yet so much was missing. She wanted a

543
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,840
deeper meaning in her life, and so naturally she found herself attending herself help similar.

544
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:15,840
Specifically, one run by a group called Janeus that build itself as quote, a woman's movement

545
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:21,360
that facilitates an ongoing exploration of what it means to be a woman. Janeus was a subgroup

546
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:27,360
of a larger self-help organisation named Nickseem, which was founded and run by the sky.

547
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,800
If these people become a failure, what are they going to do on the average?

548
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:36,640
Right, they're going to at least at least do this.

549
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,760
So what's going to happen on the average with this structure?

550
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,360
Right. This is a younger Keith Reneri, pitching a multi-level marketing company he

551
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:55,040
cooked up in the 90s called Consume as Byline. It didn't last long, being shut down in

552
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,600
96 after the powers that be determined it was an obvious pyramid scheme.

553
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,800
It's interesting that Keith Reneri was passionate about multi-level marketing from such a young age.

554
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,760
As various MLM companies have themselves been accused of being colds or utilizing

555
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,720
cult-like tactics to keep their contractors pitching their products door to door on a commission

556
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:20,640
only basis, even after a livable income hasn't materialized after months or even years.

557
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:27,120
It makes sense then that Reneri's Nickseem was in fact another multi-level marketing company.

558
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:33,280
Except this time, it was disguised as a self-improvement support group rather than a sales force.

559
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,000
The basic structure of the company went like this.

560
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,120
A person looking to overcome whatever obstacle in life you'd like to name,

561
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,800
signs up for one of Nickseem's multi-thousand dollar workshops,

562
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,720
often after having its virtues extoled to them by a friend or colleague.

563
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:53,120
Upon attending the seminar, this person actually finds they get quite a lot out of it.

564
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:58,480
After they're run through exercises such as an exploration of meaning or EM,

565
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:03,680
that funneling enough bears a striking resemblance to a Scientology-ordering session.

566
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:09,120
In an EM, a senior member of Nickseem has a subject to explore areas of stress in their life

567
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:14,160
and then moves on to quizzing them about with any traumatic memories maybe connected to such stress.

568
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,760
Unlike in Scientology though, an EM session has an audience,

569
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,640
discussing traumatic memories in front of a conference room full of people may sound invasive

570
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:30,720
and it is, but fellow participants are instructed to applaud whenever the subject has a breakthrough,

571
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:38,240
causing discomfort to transform into validation, a euphoric experience that makes for an excellent

572
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:44,640
thirst fix. But just like Scientology, at Nickseem it's not just a matter of thanks for coming

573
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:51,520
glad we could help. There's always more issues to work on, technology to learn and courses to buy.

574
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,560
With the price tags of courses starting at just south of $3,000, you might think the

575
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,920
prospect of regular return visits would be financially impossible for most, but by selling

576
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:08,000
courses to other people, you can actually make money from transforming your life, potentially

577
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:14,720
even turn it into a full-time job. This is all no doubt shady, but unfortunately not completely

578
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:20,160
unique in the world of self-help. Remember though, when trying to build a cold of more than just

579
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:26,960
dozens of people, it's best to save the crazy stuff for later. Upon attending her first

580
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,920
Janius Siminar, Ellison Mack was intrigued by the teachings and the prospect of finding that

581
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,800
deep meaning in life that she had been longing for, so she jumped at the opportunities to meet the

582
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:42,240
man who all of this was originated from. Keith Reniri was treated as somewhat of a dimmy guard

583
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:47,280
with a nixium, and face to face time with him wasn't typically something someone received right

584
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:53,040
out the gaze. However, Ellison Mack's celebrity status would make her a big gift, so it's not

585
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:58,880
exactly surprising that she got to cut in line. Their first meeting was actually captured on video,

586
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,160
and it's something to behold. The impressionable Mack has clearly already brought into the

587
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:09,200
notion that Reniri might be the man who holds all the answers, and atop a they broke during the

588
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:18,880
conversation is Max Glove of Art. When I go to see a film or a piece of artwork or something

589
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:27,360
happens when there's some of it and one blissful life. One thing many culturally deserved at

590
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:33,200
is turning benign or even outright a positive aspect of a person's life into problems that need to

591
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:46,800
be worked on. Just like we saw at the start, absolute global ego. Some people have spoken

592
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:52,080
of Reniri as a sort of evil genius, and while we would never dispute that the man is certainly

593
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:57,360
a well-practiced manipulator, it's important to not give people like this too much credit,

594
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,720
because the vast majority of people who came into contact with Reniri had no problem seeing

595
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:09,040
as pseudo-philosophical babbling for exactly what it was. Hypnotists sometimes say that the key

596
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:15,040
is finding someone who wants to be hypnotized. So when you watch Mack begin to well-up as if she's

597
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:20,320
just received some kind of life-changing insight, you're not witnessing someone under the spell of a

598
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:26,800
master brainwasher. She's already bought into the notion of Keith Reniri as a super guru. All he needs

599
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:32,000
to do is play the part. After that, she will more or less take care of the wrist.

600
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:08,320
And that is often what you'll witness when someone is caught by a cult, her client and

601
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:17,920
Sanker. They real themselves. From that point, Ellison Mack went on to become one of Nickseem's

602
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:24,160
most visible spokespeople and highest-ranking members, helping to recruit, run various seminars,

603
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:29,120
mentor fellow members, and even lead a Nickseem archipelagrop, simply human.

604
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:38,960
Yes, I know that you never met.

605
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:47,200
You can say I told you so.

606
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:54,800
Because hey, why the hell not? And really at this point from what we've covered, if you've

607
00:56:54,800 --> 00:57:00,320
never stumbled upon the Nickseem story before, why the hell not could be your overriding take away.

608
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:05,440
Yes, self-improvement groups like Nickseem are pretentious at best, and predatory at worst

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when considering the amount of money they bleed people out of, with their promises of self-actualization

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and like. But they're all so nothing new, and ultimately, not all that hard to walk away from.

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There's a decent chance that you or someone you know has been caught up in one of them. A

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regrettable experience may be, but hardly traumatizing, and maybe even genuinely beneficial in

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some ways, even if not as life-changing as what was promised. But of course, if Nickseem was that

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benign, they wouldn't be in this video. So let's move the timeline forward just to touch.

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Alsa Mack sentenced to three years behind bars and a $20,000 fine for her role in the

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next-seem sex cult. Its leader Keith Reneri was sentenced to 120 years in prison in October

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for his role that included sex trafficking women. The group founded in Albany, New York,

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By-Reneri was marketed as a self-help organization. But former members say Mack helped recruit

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women to a secret sub-society within next-seem called DOS or the VAL. The women had to give over

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collateral, like compromising photos and videos in order to join. Members were then organized in

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levels as masters and slaves. Some women in DOS say they were branded with Reneri and Mack's

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initials. And other former members say they were also co-worst into having sexual relations with Reneri.

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Next-seem victim Jessica Joan flew from the West Coast to Brooklyn to deliver an

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angrily-worded impact statement in which she labeled Alsa Mack a monster cut from the same cloth

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as Keith Reneri. And she said there are enough years in the rest of her life to make up for the

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harm, pain, and suffering she caused. Alsa Mack she asserted is an evil sociopath and a

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menace to society. You might feel like we skipped a big chunk in terms of explaining how exactly

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the self-help seminars escalated to the harem of six slaves being branded with a cotorizing pin.

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And we sort of did but sort of didn't. Because it's one of those things that doesn't necessarily

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make a whole lot more sense, the more it's explained. Conditioning is like that. It's hard to

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understand without actually experiencing it step of the slow burn yourself.

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Going to the self-help seminar and getting that first fix, meeting people you feel a connection with,

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look up to and trust. Having one of those people tell you about this exclusive in a circle group

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that will really take yourself from improvement journey to the next level. Being convinced to

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hand over damaging information for admittance because it's the only way to really make the program

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real. Beginning to realise just how deep you're really into this thing when that person starts

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and assisting you text them for mission to eat before every meal has part of a 900 calorie

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day diet plan, reneary like to swim in thin. Feeling like you can no longer bail out for fear your

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collateral will be released or worse. Convincing yourself that this really was a good idea to begin with

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if for no other reason than to cope. And finally, recruiting slaves of your own, graduating from

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victim to perpetrator. This video began by outlining how so many can be vulnerable to colds,

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so it feels appropriate to end with the best words of advice we can offer on how to avoid being

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captured by one. There are all kinds of colds and they vary in many ways, some are religious,

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some are secular, some conceal their weirdness, others let it all hang out, some know their

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as game, others really buy what they're selling, one very common thread however, is this, an implicit

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or explicit proposition that you're in some way broken and need of fixing, that if you're in a

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bad place now or even just some of the time, it doesn't have to be like that, ever again.

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You know, you can practice, regenerating and extreme feeling of joy over anything,

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food. But here's the thing, you're not actually supposed to feel happy all the time,

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going through periods of melancholy and even feeling like you're struggling to see the point of

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everything is within reason, normal and healthy. Life is always going to have ups and downs,

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so there's no need to feel like you're failing at it whenever you find yourself in one of the

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downpards. Hopefully it goes without saying that there are limits to those words of advice.

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If you're experiencing something like chronic and severe depression, please seek help.

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And in any event, we're not encouraging an approach of just way to doubt, being proactive and

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trying to find ways to turn things around during a rough patch is great, as is finding a

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support network of some kind. Even one that could be characterized as a self-help program,

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just make sure you do your research first, especially if you're dealing with a for profit company.

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But, if a personal group seems to be suggesting that they don't just offer help, but rather the

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solution, a way of life or destination that you can travel to that will result in you

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never going through a rough patch or feeling unhappy for a period ever again. That's when you need

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to run for the hills. Because it's following those sorts of people that will have you winding up

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in a dark room, reading about ancient alien warlords, being held down and table while the

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initials of some actress and pseudo-intellectual door carved into your skin, found dead among

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dozens of other corpses, sporting identical uniforms and pixie haircuts, or God forbid,

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singing in an occupying hell of a group.

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I can be creative at every time.

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I just a tiny little greatest thing.

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Yeah.

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Is that any way far I want in the cat?