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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America.

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I'm your host Seth Holhaus.

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In 1995, President Bill Clinton apologized to the survivors and families of those who have been

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knowingly subjects of government-sponsored experiments.

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He made his remarks ahead of a true of documents detailing his experiments was declassified.

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It televised a dress he said, quote,

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Thousands of government-sponsored experiments did take place in hospitals,

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universities, military bases around our nation.

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In too many cases, informed consent was withheld.

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Americans were kept in the dark about the effects of what was being done to them.

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The deception extended beyond the test subjects themselves to encompass their families

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in the American people as a whole for these experiments were kept secret.

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At the time, President Clinton basically promised the American people that this would never

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be allowed to happen again.

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But according to my guest today, these sinister experiments have now developed

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into sophisticated, mind-control programs that are being deployed on the masses,

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including UNI.

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So it's with great honor that I welcome Kathy O'Brien on my show today,

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a survivor of the CIA run in-k-altra mind-control preparation.

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And she'll explain to us based on her own real-world experience

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why she believes the entire COVID response was actually a mass mind-control campaign.

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But before we get started, today's show is brought to you by Rise TV, a Patriot-owned

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streaming platform. So over at Rise, our mission is to uncover the truth no matter how dark

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and difficult will always holding on to hope. We have a massive content library and an amazing

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community of Patriots and also we're now showing Kathy's incredible new documentary

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trance on Rise TV. So I hope you can go check it out after the show.

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Dom, you can go ahead and cut the YouTube feed. And folks, by now, we all sense that we're

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in for a bumpy ride for foreseeable future. Much of the world is going through a process that the

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experts are calling D. Dollarization and China and Russia are leading the charge. So what's this

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All right, folks, I am very excited for this interview. I actually interviewed

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Kathy O'Brien yesterday. I'm so excited to share it with you because of scheduling. Now,

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there's a few things on the talk to you about ahead of time. One is that we did have so a few

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issues with her internet. So I apologize the videos little choppy in some places, but it's still

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such a golden interview. The other thing is obviously we won't be having a Q&A, but there is a portion

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of the discussion which I felt was a little too sensitive for the public that we're only going to

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be having for the second half of the show that's on rise TV only. So if you want to check out

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Kathy's new documentary trance and if you want to catch the second half of the interview today,

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make sure you go to rise TV and again there's a link for a free to in the description below

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for a free trial to rise TV. So I'm going to go ahead and start this with an introduction,

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you know, Shunga Shou, someone for her documentary, the introduces her and her background and

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gives you a little bit of an idea that who she is and then we'll dive right into the interview.

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So please enjoy folks. It's a little bit of a heavy topic, but there's still a lot of hope that you'll

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find in it. Thank you so much and joy. It was so hard to come running out of a hell that nobody

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believed exists in. My name is Kathy O'Brien and I'm a survivor of MK Ultra Mind Control.

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The MK Ultra program was to ultimately control the minds of the population

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for implementing what Adolf Hitler first term the new world order.

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I'm so fortunate that an intelligence insider who saw the kind of corruption that was going on

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in the highest levels of government decided to take action and rescued me and saved my life

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so that we could begin to expose what was being done.

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Kathy, thank you not only for joining me today, but thank you for everything that you're doing.

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You have such an incredible story and I'm really excited to hear this story from you.

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have voice right now while people are waking up and looking around and wondering what

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you know, world is going on. I've been talking about it for over 30 years has been going on

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my whole life so it's not new to me, but what is new to me is seeing people wake up and starting

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to question what is going on and so this is a wonderful opportunity. Thank you.

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Oh absolutely. It's interesting because I grew up in countryside of Ohio, Midwest and

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grew up in a simple Christian home life was very American. It was very simple and beautiful and

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innocent and I didn't really have much of an understanding of grasp of the amount of evil that

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existed in the world, which is a good thing for a child to not understand that and it wasn't until

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a chance encounter in my college years where I met someone that actually had come out of a Chinese

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labor camp that I had first really understood about the evil that existed in communist countries.

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communist party and expose the horrors of communism, which are still doing a forced organ harvesting

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psychological abuse, cannibalism, all kinds of terrible church things are happening in communist

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countries. But it was hard for me and I wouldn't have been able to at first to understand that

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maybe my government in America, the land of the free home of the brave could also in some way

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be involved in these types of evil acts. But my research led me to a lot of different places but also

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to you and to your story and what you've revealed is was shocking and your story was shocking to

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say the least and we will get into that and I want to just ask for those of you that are watching

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this interview. Some of this information might you may have heard about it but some it might be new to

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you but just try to enter into this with a very open mind and remind yourself that two or three

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years ago, if I would have told you that the entire world is going to shut down over a

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over a fake pandemic and be forcing vaccines and you're forcing masks and everything you probably

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wouldn't have believed me. And so just remind yourself that you feel yourself like oh this isn't

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sound right and not just this interview but anything that remind yourself that what we've been through

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and we've gotten to with this because it's important that we look at things with an open heart

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open mind and the one thing that I'll say before I let you talk Kathy is that when I've watched you

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speak, I feel your heart come through and to me that's what speaks the truth and so that's what and

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also as a so it's often been investigating and trying to wait through propaganda, I really try to

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listen to my heart when I'm watching someone speak or reading information and my heart usually

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helps me find what's true. So saying that, you know, Kathy, can you just go ahead and just walk us

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through your story? Walk us through, you know, your early years and just what happened and how

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your life changed and what happened with you? Yeah, well, knowledge is our defense against mine control

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and when we realize that this has been going on for a long, long time and we hear about things

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from back in the Korean War and we hear about Nazi Germany and I'll like that but it's still

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difficult for us to wrap our minds around the reality that we share this planet with some very

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dark, forest, energy people that are not like us and they do not like us. It's hard to

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understand why anyone would want power over another person and they use mine control as

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a means of ushering in like the great reset that we're seeing right now. This globalism, this

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globalist agenda where a handful of big guys make all the money and we do all the work and it's a

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very difficult situation. The knowledge that is our defense against mine control has been

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suppressed very deliberately under national security because after World War II the Nazi

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of Fascist scientists were imported into the US under Project Paperclip and with them came

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the formula for MK Ultramarine Control. That knowledge was kept from the public while the CIA

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became actively involved in using it on children especially who had been sexually abused.

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Trauma is a basis of mine control and there's no trauma more horrific than the sexual abuse of a child

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prior to age five while their brain is still forming. I had been born.

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I had been born in a multi-generational and such space family and my father was sexually

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using me from infancy and even though I couldn't think to nobody was doing was wrong my brain

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because we have this amazing defense mechanism within our brains when we understand our mind

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brain function. We have so much within a so much resiliency and capability but we also have this

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defense mechanism where the neuropath ways of the brain actually shut down around trauma.

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So the rest of the mind can function normally. That is sometimes referred to as repressed memory or

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when people in like in their 30s start remembering the childhood use you know it's because of the

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way our brains work and this safety mechanism that we have in our brain and even though I couldn't

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think to know what my father was doing to me was wrong my brain knew shut those neuropath ways

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down and tried to protect me that way. Well in that process of trauma after trauma and the neuro

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pathway shutting down it creates a heightened suggestibility. That's why trauma is used for mind control

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because it actually does affect those neuropath ways in our brain it's like our brain's

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freezing fear and then we're easily led in manipulated times like that we're highly suggestible

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and we so then we follow authority whatever they tell us to do and there was a handful of

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power movers people who really aren't like us at all that wanted to manipulate the whole

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planet using this formula for mind control so the sexual abuse I was experiencing I was highly

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suggestible my father was using me in child pornography so I had compartments for that he was

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trafficking me and this was back in like 1960 we're talking real early on and he was trafficking me

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so I had compartments for that and in the meantime he was a contact me you say a compartment in your mind

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what is that what is that like what is a compartment that you have what is the compartment for the

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child pornography for instance? Well it it's like the neuropath ways shut down and then when my

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father would come in to sexually abuse me again the part of me that knew how to deal with it that

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part of my brain would open up trigger open to deal with it again and again it's needed and then

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when it was child pornography the part of me that dealt with that that part of my brain used to be

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called multiple personalities but that's a misnomer because it's a shattered personality and this

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it's more compartmentalization. So then we'll set this out. The brain deals with trauma right so

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that you experience such intense trauma that all your brain can do is to

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pull your consciousness into this little small area the safe space of your brain to learn how to deal with that right?

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Yes and then there's no continuity because there's actually no brain firing happening between

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that compartmentalization and so there was a faction of the government the CIA that thought what

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better place to have government secrets than in the mind of someone who can't think to bring those

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to mind unless it's triggered open. So that's how mine control works and it's a very scientific

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very deliberate formula that capitalizes on our brain's natural responses to trauma and this manipulation

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was so strong through the CIA they had taken what the would have been brought in by the Nazi

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and fascist scientists and combined it with what the Catholics had long since learned about the

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effects of trauma and the human mind through the Spanish and Kosozian and the Crusades and all like that

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and made a very powerful form of mind control and this secrecy this secret was being discussed like

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at my grandfather's Blumasana Glage where secrecy is the the whole point of this this

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there were politicians within that watch a lot of local politicians and one of the local politicians

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approached my father and told him he could receive immunity from prosecution he'd been

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caught sending that child for an outer feed through the mail he could receive immunity from

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prosecution if he would sell me into the CIA's and Kaltra Monk control project. My father thought

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it was a great idea and look at this this is this is back in the early early 60s and we're already

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seeing how our courts are being manipulated to allow for the proliferation of pedophilia because

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again sexual abuse of a child the sexualization of children is the most powerful form of mind control.

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So the whole pedophile agenda we see going on in society has been promoted in our schools all

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transgender sexualization so called gender confusion is all in mind control

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project it's what it's all about is to create a more compliant society that well do as

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their toll for this slave society agenda that's being ushered in underguise of what eight off

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Hitler George Bush and now Joe Biden term the new world or part of great research or whatever

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term they want to apply to it it's just where you follow the money those are the same handful of

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big guys that think we're all on to that these things so basically if I'm a frankly

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your dad exchange for immunity sold you into this basically he sold you to the CIA for

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their MK Ultra and I have also and I've researched this and for folks

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for one I I can't imagine as I told you I grew up in a very simple

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wonderful home the fact that you can be here and smiling at me is just incredible for what you've

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been through I can't imagine oh my god you're in a good home and that's just so beautiful to me

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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and so you know for for the viewers that are watching

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you know MK Ultra maybe you've heard at whisper's other you've heard mentioned you know I went

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through and looked up and you can actually find declassified CIA documents declassified

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meetings with the CIA's being questioned about this you know it's not a fiction there's not

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something that just is made up this is a real program and so if I understand what you're telling

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that a lot of the site the research coming out of Nazi Germany where we know that Hitler and

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Mangala they did a lot of experimentation on people and they were obsessed with you know mind control

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and you had a break of human being down and everything that's it's not just them it's you see

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the same principles in communist China and Cambodia during the community etc so a global a lot of

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that the research you know through operation paper clip which again is another CAA in operation

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you can look up and find declassified documents about operation paper clip that

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operation came into our government and became a foundation of this mind control so are you saying

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that the CIA actually had a mind control program where they were making mind control slaves and

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that you were one of the people that got brought into them it's um so what did they actually do to you

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how did that how that work well the a mind control is a sliding scale from the kind of robotic

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mind control that I was conditioned for and programmed for to information control because we

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all formulate our thoughts opinions and actions based on what we know and I think we all know our

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knowledge base has been severely altered and we're being lied to through control media every day

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and it's not that they even care that we catch them in their lives because the media is the voice

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of this globalist agenda to manipulate the minds of the public especially when trauma occurs especially

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when we all experience a trauma like we did with um with you know so called pandemic when mind control

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masters of virus was unleashed on a global scale was for the purposes of this financial global

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reset I don't understand how much greed and power someone needs but they don't think like us like

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us that they aren't like us and I got a good view into this government operation and what they plan

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I'm doing on a mass scale while I was deep in the swamp among these perpetrators of the new world

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order because the politician that granted my other immunity from prosecution was just a local

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politician at the time but he went on to become the unelected president of the United States and

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that was Gerald Ford and Gerald Ford also was had a the war in commission that supposedly

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investigated the Kennedy assassination and it was at that time that our country lost much of its freedom

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it was in that wake of that national trauma the trauma everybody knows where they were and what

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they were doing when Kennedy was assassinated and even as I say it those old and those of us

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old enough to remember we all get the image of the bullet and because the media showed us over

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over the repetitious traumatic program even that same way as when we say 911 everybody sees the

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plane flying into the twin powers you know it's because of the repetition and what the media was

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doing at the time and then they use they they give us orders or that's where we lose our freedoms

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that's when this this globalist agenda started taking over and I refer back to the Kennedy assassination

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because Gerald Ford's involvement in implementing this new world order was very very strong

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now we need to do what's looking to hit his cabinet to see that we've got the same handful of people

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over and over and over again in Ford's cabinet was Henry Kissinger Nelson Rockefeller George Bush

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Dick Cheney Donald Rumsfeld and Jack Bolletti who was head of the motion picture association of

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the one the big wagon hollywood decided what we get to see on our TVs you know so

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we're seeing how easily the media has brought into the fold on this so that it can be the voice

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of this this mind control agenda is really what it's all about because they know that people are

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not going to cooperate with this darker agenda that's being forced on the the global population

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from the the sexualization of our children to their funding mechanism of drug and human

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trafficking across open borders they've been doing that my whole life I know I was traffic

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and I was used in CIA drug ops programmed to robotically carry out their operations I know that's

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funding mechanism it's why when we were all sheltering at home from my control mast is virus

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the first thing that happened when elections were stolen 2020 is the borders were flung back open

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to the drug and human trafficking that we see going on so strong right now so there's just a

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few queath that very key things that we all need to recognize and it will give us deep insight

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into what in the world is going on these days and how mind control is being used and because of

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my personal experience and anti-altramine control the first 30 years of my life were completely

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controlled by outside forces I did exactly what I was told to do I couldn't think to do anything

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else I was tortured out of my mind and programmed very systematically very scientifically and

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very deliberately on various military and NASA and DARPA installations all across the US so

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my experience in MK ultramine control was one that put me into the swamp in Washington DC where I was right

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among these perpetrators and just as everyone knows you know get that same image of the the airplane or

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whatever flying into the the cows or the Kennedy assassination the a brains record events

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surrounding trauma if they photographically record those events and that's why we that comes to

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mind so strong for us well my brain was photographically recording events around the trauma

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and it wasn't until later years when an intelligence insider rescued me directly out of the swamp

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and handed me keys to my own mind that I was able to write out and photographic detail what exactly

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I had experienced in MK ultramine control and what I witnessed and heard around me the discussions

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going on for the this new world order plan it's actually released in my 1995 testimony for Congress

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transformation of America which was censored on the national security because it had been validated

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by clean members of law enforcement and intelligence US customs and and all and we every bit of

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as validated so national security was invoked on it but in there it outlines exactly what we're

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experiencing today which truth has always been out there around us it's just we have been kept from it

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we have been truth has been censored for so long because knowledge is our defense against mine control

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and once we understand that and realize that after what I went what I experienced in my torturous

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MK ultra my control from birth experience I healed from that I regained my free thought free

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will so expression I gained my strength this spirit where I can live the love that I am and bring

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this truth to light and if I can heal and reclaim my free thought we all can every one of us can

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reclaim our own personal power and stop complying with this dark agenda stop complying with this

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handful of the same old perpetrators that have been behind the scene manipulating our government

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and selling us out into this new world order agenda for a long long time our constitutional values

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have been eroding for for decade and the injustice gross injustice that we're seeing now

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has been in place for for a while it's certainly been that way my whole life I've never

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dreamed I would see conventional justice through the courts but I always hope that I would see

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the ultimate justice of positive change through public awareness as people woke up to face the

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reality that we share this planet with some very horrible criminal power moongers we absolutely do

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they only have as much power as we give them we just need to stop different and stop

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how important is that now you know Kathy in understanding the the process of

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turning someone into someone that can then control their minds and just you keep in mind I want to

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be sensitive if there's anything that's difficult for you to talk about then it's tell me that

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let's not go there you know I will be really mindful of that because I've had my experience of

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you know to hard times that it's like I can't talk about that right now but for the audience it's

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watching and and understand this when you are brought into these these programs you know

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I whether you say on dark the installation the military installation you know you talk about being

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tortured and what was what was that like what are some of the things that that they did

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how how did that work because it's it's almost it's difficult for for even myself or other

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folks are watching to even picture that and so if you can kind of paint that picture look for

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us that understand what was going on there yes there's different levels to mind control and

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there's different components to them KL to mind control and it's very important to be able to

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understand all of those repetition is one of the most basic form of mind control that there is so

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that when we experience trauma we hear the same narrative over and over and over and over again from

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every angle every place we go and that repetition is a form of programming that I think everybody

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can relate to especially after mind control masters of iris was imposed because we were all told

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to social distance mask up get the injection we go to the grocery store same thing over the

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intercoms us you know it was it's it we're constantly bombarded with the same narrative so repetition

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is one aspect once we experienced trauma that manipulates our mind also a neural linguistic programming

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and L p the language of the subconscious is something that we need to be aware of after my father

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sold me into um KL to mind control he was flown to Boston Massachusetts where he was trained by

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Cardinal law the same Cardinal law of the infamous Catholic child abuse scandal that was exposed a few

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years back because they were sanctioning pedophilia because the Catholic church wanted me the one

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world church in the new world were so they were very much a part of the pedophile um agenda and Cardinal

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law was right there at the top and even back then he was training people like my father how to raise

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me in untalter mind control and um how to manipulate my mind using the language of the subconscious

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after that my father would say things to me like um you earn your key but now keep what you earn

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you know he would just do the reversals because satanic reversals the um violence and peace you know

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we all saw you know when while our cities were burning and they're saying also peaceful

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protests we knew better but the constant you know barrage of repetition has its effect and my father

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started taking me to um the Catholic church that was heavily involved in MK Ultra um and in

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Muskiegan Michigan and um their experienced um satanic reversal of the Catholic mass the occultism

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which is very traumatic blood trauma is a very traumatic on the human mind and the physical

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tortures that I experience what beyond just the extreme sexual assault that I experienced from

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infancy into um horrific tortures using um like high voltage stun guns and all and that was like

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in in some of the later years where that that would be used um and and also um any kind of any kind

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of trauma I mean CNN animal abused is very traumatic on a child to the point where

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while I was growing up people who abused the children abused the animals and vice versa so no

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regard for life at all so um when we see animals being abused we need to look at the children

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and when we see children being abused we need to look at the animals and realize that that this is

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being used as a horrific trauma base on the children and um so I was always wanting to protect the

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animals and really the the kind of conditioning that I experienced in was so horrific that I didn't

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know there was any place in the world where good people existed and I remember when I was losing my

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free thought completely like around um age five or whatever the last thought I had was like wish

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to there was someplace in the world where people didn't hurt each other so um that was like the

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the physical pain was probably I mean it was an extreme but the brain can only perceive

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so much physical pain and so much torture but the traumatic aspects were when um I had a daughter

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that was raised in the project and no one she was abused I couldn't think to protect her anymore

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than I could think to protect myself I had no survival in stinking more I could only do exactly what I

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was told to do and knowing on any level at all that that was happening to her was the most traumatic

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torturous horrific thing that I have experienced so that was um probably the most strong

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means of control over me and of course my daughter being born right into the project was born

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right into the human trafficking and right in on a white house pennagon level so she was um horribly

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abused as well the kind of abuse that these people can inflict as beyond our comprehension it's beyond

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our scope it's beyond beyond anything when when I first started speaking out people didn't want

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to believe what I was saying this was like in the early 90s when I was trying to help my daughter

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and was trying to raise awareness in order to get help for her that's how I became a whistleblower

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how mark and I became whistleblowers is trying to help her so it's love for her that compelled me to

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speak out and still people didn't want to hear it out come running out of this how nobody wants

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to believe exists and it's like who wants to believe that exists it was so horrific to me that

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my brain just shattered over it you know I mean I I just associated completely from it so

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to me the fact that people didn't want to believe it was like you know touching you know it's like

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good people are in this world they don't even want to know that this happened and I hear from

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people even today that say I heard you speak 30 years ago and I didn't I didn't believe a word you

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said I wish I had and I say I wish you had too because then maybe right now we wouldn't be experiencing

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this this horrible agenda being imposed on us all maybe we all kind of you know

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joined together and stopped it before but the knowledge was being suppressed and people didn't want to believe

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and now people have no choice to believe it's in everybody's space it's in everybody's life it's

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in their own backyard everybody's affected these days if they're not affected by the trauma the

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constant morage of trauma after trauma being inflicted in order to control the minds of the masses

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but they're being um they're they're experiencing the financial devastation being imposed on us

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because financial control is a component of mk ultra-line control and it's one this being

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imposed on everyone right now so you know we need to understand that as we're beginning to

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experiencing all this and waking up and saying what in the world is going on it might look brand new

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to people as their eyes open to the reality of it but the fact is has been going on my whole life

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people woke up massively by 2016 enough to and override the rigged algorithms of the electronic

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voting machines by sheer numbers including a president that cared about America and our sovereignty instead

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of this new world order agenda and it was at that time I think a lot of people gained insight into

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the reality that there's a criminal faction within our government is very big now it's gone on

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so long our justice system has been eroded and our information has been controlled through

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censorship through controlled media for a long long time our knowledge base has been altered

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and above all that drug and human trafficking across open borders has been funding this dark

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agenda for a long long time so people were so awake then that even with my control mass

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is a virus which was like the last ditch effort once these perpetrators lost their control

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because Hillary Clinton it's in my 1995 testimony transformation of America they held

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reclitten was the post to us during the New World Order it didn't happen and when it didn't happen

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they freaked out they went all in with mine control mass is a virus and they've been tipping

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their hand it's showing us the plan ever since it's not that they intended for us to all see

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what's going on it's the frantic aspiration to maintain any semblance to control over the population

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and they're losing that control more and more every day and when it's understate is that that's

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a really really important message actually is because when you look around you look at the state of

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our country it feels like gosh this is going according to their plan but it looks like they're taking

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more and more control but there are ways that I'm seeing it and I want to hear more on your perspective

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that they're losing control and they're frantic because if we watch their different actions

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you're seeing it unfold that they're having to take these almost sloppy actions to cover things

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up and people it's not stopping so when you say that they're losing control and that they're

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they're great reset their efforts of the New World Order are failing what are some of the strong

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indicators that you see that tell you that? Well there's different things that are used to

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gauge the response of the people including like for example the last booster injection that

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big farmer big farmer follow the money they are right at the top of this big farmer was imposing

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and people didn't buy into it the percentage of the global population is so minutes you know

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that they realize they've lost control through the trauma of mine control mast as a virus

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and that they were going to have to go to something else which is why they're gone they've gone to

404
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:18,640
the financial control aspect right now and we're seeing the destruction of America's financial

405
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:29,040
stability on every front from you know raising taxes to our the the the exorbitant prices that

406
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:35,520
we're having to pay for everything that is just it's devastating financially devastating to everyone

407
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:42,400
right now and that is just an effort to regain control of people because if they can control

408
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:51,840
people by money like through the the digital currency and all then then they can monitor

409
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:58,160
what are they can decide what we do and how if we get out of line it off they cut off their money

410
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:04,320
which cuts off our food which cuts off our shelter which cuts off our ability to provide for families

411
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:10,960
and protect our children and you know so that's the effort they're going to right now and even

412
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that isn't unfolding the way that they have planned it's not unfolding smoothly I don't

413
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:24,320
all I hear is people everywhere having having heard the slip of the tongue that we will have

414
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:30,240
nothing and be happy I'm thinking people are on to the fact that that is a major part of the plan

415
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:38,880
and they're like why should I cooperate with that? Exactly. No, but I'll operate. Yeah and so Kathy that

416
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:46,560
you describe the pandemic as mine control disguises of virus and that's a really interesting way

417
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,800
of looking at it so I've interviewed folks like Mickey Willis you know right who is behind the

418
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:58,720
planed-emic movie and from a lot of angles you know as you unpack the motives behind the the

419
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:05,520
coronavirus pandemic you can say okay well it collapse the the small businesses it destroyed the

420
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:11,280
middle class there's it brought in new medical tyranny everyone got the you know so people have to

421
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:17,040
get the vaccine to keep their job etc and so there's a lot of we can the military right people

422
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,760
left the military that refused the jab and those that stayed in got the jab and so there's a lot

423
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,720
of ways of looking at it to understand okay what were their intentions but what I'm gathering from you

424
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:31,600
especially with your history of understanding how mine control works is that you're looking at

425
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:37,120
this pandemic and the virus through an entire different lens and in my correctness and that you're

426
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:42,320
looking at it and seeing that everything that they've done with with the pandemic was part of an

427
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:49,600
MK Ultra mass scale program to condition people to blindly follow authority and basically to

428
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:56,640
submit themselves to mine control is that am I correct in that? Absolutely and then

429
00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:02,320
there are so many people who masked up that never would have and they had to in order to keep their jobs

430
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:10,480
or to take the injection they're so ashamed that they did that it it has we can their own resolve

431
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:17,520
and belief in themselves so it's true to he wrote people's belief in themselves so that they have

432
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:23,920
looked to something else to lead them and that was an an ultimate call on that and I say it's

433
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:31,280
mask as a virus because masks are using MK UltraMine control my daughter was trafficked in a mask

434
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:38,320
and it's a very common thing because when you put a mask on someone it depersonalizes them

435
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,920
that you can't we can't recognize each other that you can't save somebody's

436
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:50,480
my leaner sneering we don't know what's behind that mask and worse it makes this feel like we don't

437
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:56,480
have a voice because we can't hear each other through those masks especially from six feet away

438
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:05,120
and then it inhibits oxygen to the brain necessary for critical analysis free thought and if that

439
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:12,080
oxygen is inhibited in the brain of children prior to age five all the brain is still forming

440
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:18,000
that's why it's such a move towards masking up the little list little as youngest ones

441
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:25,520
is because it causes compliance that it makes the brain not develop properly and it makes

442
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:33,760
more compliant and easily led into this slave society agenda so just the mask below say you've

443
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:39,040
been a friend of mine works in child care and I was just talking to her the other day and she was saying

444
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,320
that these you know third, fourth and fifth graders they're not like the children that she was

445
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,760
working with a couple of years ago they're depressed they're depressed looking they're aggressive

446
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:56,000
they're completely different and you know my daughter she was born amidst the pandemic so she's

447
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,800
just turned two years old and she's just on the opposite side of the spot you know she spends her

448
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,680
her days outside chasing our chickens around and you're throwing sticks on and that's that's her

449
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:13,440
way of you know growing up and I will never allow her to be mask but I feel I feel so bad for all

450
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:21,680
the children that had to go through that and that had parents that just trusted the CDC and just

451
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,960
you know shudder kid in the school and didn't fight back like it was their duty to protect their

452
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:32,800
their kids from harm but something that does encourage me and you mentioned this towards being

453
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:38,400
in the interview is that if you can go through this I would imagine that what you've been through is

454
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:45,280
a million times worse than what you know they're wearing a mask in school or then you know seeing

455
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,240
the COVID death numbers flashing on seeing in every day all the different tactics that they've used

456
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:56,000
so if you can walk through this and be this wonderful woman that's smiling that has faith in the

457
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:01,760
future that has faith in the good of humanity I would I would certainly believe that mankind as a

458
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:08,400
whole and a goodness in mankind can emerge so how you know through your own experience in escaping

459
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:14,720
this darkness how can people that are realizing this is what's happened how can they escape the

460
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:23,520
darkness how can they help their children escape that darkness well when intelligence inside

461
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:31,120
or mark Phillips he was working the highest levels of in tell nine sciences and that he was a

462
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:39,200
spoof which means he could be CIA FBI secret service he'd wear whatever had he needed to to be

463
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:45,680
wherever he needed to he had an extremely high clearance and access to a lot of information

464
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:52,080
he also saw children being brought in out of the White House and he was outraged he was outraged to

465
00:50:52,960 --> 00:51:00,240
his determination his whole goal in life was just to preserve the sanctity of free thought because

466
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:06,080
he knew like I knew from my experience that without free thought there's no free will and without

467
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:12,640
free will there's no soul expression battle for the soul of the nation takes out a whole new concept

468
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:20,160
when we understand the effects of mine control and a population not having soul expression without

469
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:26,080
soul expression there's no strength in human spirit to stand for the things that you believe in

470
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:32,800
and mark was seeing the erosion of freedom across the country very deliberately through

471
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:40,240
the controlled media and he wanted to get the information up to the people on mine brain function

472
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:47,600
so that they could again remember that we have been born with this amazing resiliency to heal

473
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:54,640
from any level of trauma to resist any level of mine control that knowledge has our defense against

474
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:01,200
my control and he needed that information back to the people it was suppressed under a blanket of

475
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:07,760
national security when he found that out he decided to take action and do something about it he

476
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:13,280
couldn't release the information because he was bound by laws the sedition because he was in

477
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,960
intelligence so he rescued my daughter and me right out of the swamp in 1988

478
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:25,520
1988 he took on the whole deep state shadow government new world order

479
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,360
kabal whatever we want to call and this dark energy force he took command

480
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:39,040
and rescued us out of them and handed me keys to my own mind that he we all have a right

481
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:45,360
known and he to know because it's within us all to heal and he didn't heal me he did

482
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:52,720
it's not the one who deprogrammed me he reminded me how to heal myself by hand and me the keys he

483
00:52:52,720 --> 00:53:01,120
handed me a pen and he said the pen is my dear venous horror right out your memory and my mind was

484
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:08,480
flashing with with events from the past there was just intruding on on my mind and he said make

485
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:17,840
note of what you're seeing and then write it out and what that did is by very active moving a pen

486
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:24,080
uses the logic part of the brain that critical analysis part of our brain it's an important

487
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:32,640
brain function to move a pen so I shifted the emotionally in comprehensible that was compartmentalized over

488
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:40,320
here shifted it over to logic where it could be written out right in front of me and consciously

489
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,680
seen so healing on so many levels at once opening your own pathways in my brain

490
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:53,920
writing it out critically analyzing information seeing it in front of me consciously dealing with the

491
00:53:53,920 --> 00:54:01,360
reality of what I experience regaining free thought in the process because it was more in pathways

492
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:09,280
our opening up and that very active moving a pen is so important that we've got to get it back into

493
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:16,560
our school systems that's how we help our children that's what we need to do to keep their critical analysis

494
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:24,800
get that back in the play open the neuro pathways backup reclaim their free thought so they can

495
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:32,800
retain their free thought moving forward but that moving a pen is a very important part mark also told

496
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:40,960
me voice no negatives without a solution well all I knew was what I had experienced and and I

497
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:46,080
didn't let me just sit around and complain about it because that would have just reinforced it further

498
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:51,680
verbalizing like that reinforces so I didn't want to just talk about it and I had to think in

499
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:57,520
terms of a solution that forced my brain to think in ways that I had been 30 years I know

500
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:03,120
free thought on my own and now I was having to think forward not only think forward but to think

501
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:10,240
how is solution so my brain started firing in all these new ways opening your own pathways in my brain

502
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:17,520
so that I could think freely for myself so that I could think in terms of solution rise above

503
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:25,520
the storm so to speak so that I got a clear view of how to proceed forward and I learned then

504
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:34,960
that love is the most powerful force in universe and these perpetrators who had been manipulating me

505
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:43,040
and who are manipulating us all feet off of fear and negativity not only are they the basis of mine

506
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:49,040
control but that's their energy that's their energy source they love hatred they wanted to

507
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:56,960
divide us all just like they divided my mind because if I had no no intercommunication in my own

508
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:04,320
brain I was easily left same with a nation same with the globe if we're all divided we're easily

509
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:11,840
led we need to unite in our common bond of strength of spirit and free thought is the way in

510
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:18,960
that's what we need to reclaim above all and understand the knowledge that is our defense against

511
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:27,600
my control so everyone everywhere pick up a pen right out your trauma right out what the

512
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:34,000
immobilizing negativity is that you're experiencing why you're not taking a stand what are you afraid

513
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:40,320
of and then write a solution because when you write the solution you're forcing your brain to think

514
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:46,720
beyond the control narrative you're forcing your brain to think beyond censorship you're forcing

515
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:53,440
your brain to think beyond the imposed traumas that are intended to keep us repressed and down

516
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:58,960
because negativity is totally immobilizing so I'm not gonna live in here I'm not gonna live in that

517
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:06,640
space anymore because as I started to heal I felt so in love with Mark I mean he was my hero he

518
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:14,640
got my daughter safe he rescued us both he cared about humanity animals loved him yeah

519
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:20,800
pets are crawled all over him and when those animals could trust him I sensed that I could because

520
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:27,840
I couldn't think to trust Mark when he rescued us but I sensed it because I had heightened

521
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:33,040
senses like an animal and I had the animal instinct and I saw that animals love an animal and

522
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:38,640
it was just it was so beautiful so he was he was everything and I was so in love with him and

523
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:44,560
and I he didn't want to have anything to do with me he said you have to heal first you have to

524
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:51,280
know who you are in order to have anything to give in the relationship and so that was huge motivation

525
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,960
to be all and so I was healing this fast as I turned it and then I had to find out who I am

526
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:03,680
and I couldn't base that on what other people thought of me because I'd only experienced that my

527
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:13,840
whole the whole first 30 years of my life and that's not I am not who they tortured me to to be so I found

528
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:23,200
myself within myself at the base core energy of my being and that energy is long and that energy

529
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:30,240
is who who I am so when I realized that you know people with telling me well you have to love

530
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:38,400
yourself and I couldn't love myself after what I had been forced to do under mine control but Mark told

531
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:45,040
me he said you're not responsible for what you were tortured and programmed to do under mine control

532
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:54,400
but now that you're aware you are responsible for every act you make going forward you are responsible

533
00:58:54,400 --> 00:59:01,200
for every thought for every breath you take wow that was so cool you know people act like

534
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:09,200
responsibility is some big heavy burn it's a freedom it's an ability to respond to what's going on

535
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:14,880
and so that responsibility is just like whoa so I'm responsible now and we'll live the love I

536
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:23,680
am I choose to live love and everything I do is out of love for my daughter out of love for humanity

537
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:29,680
out of love for the children it's not out of bitterness or hatred for my abusers that's their

538
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,760
energy I'm not going to give them anymore they're not getting any of that for me they're not getting any

539
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:42,880
hatred any bitterness any no no my focus is love I live the love I am and that's when Mark and I

540
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:49,440
fell in love and that's when I knew who I was I was a hundred percent in who I am Mark was a

541
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:54,720
hundred percent in who he is and so then it was a hundred hundred relationship where it's all like

542
00:59:55,520 --> 01:00:00:02,800
all like going forward and living our life's purpose of raising awareness and letting people know

543
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:09,120
not only what in the world is going on with this new world order agenda but above all

544
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:16,560
that healing is possible for us all we can all reclaim and retain our free thought going forward

545
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:23,680
this is evolutionary information and at the same time it's ancient because it's within

546
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:28,880
we were born with it all along we have been blessed with this healing capability

547
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:36,080
from the get go and we just need to remember a big farm a made us forget that we have an amazing

548
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:43,920
immune system we've been blessed with we forgot we need to remember that and stop following these

549
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:50,000
leaders we didn't know that stop following their narrative because as we need to find our

550
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:56,400
answers within our solace and start there we claim our personal sovereignty then we can reclaim

551
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:04,240
our national sovereignty then we can we can make an impact and it's on that level when we reclaim

552
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:12,080
our free thought that we realized how much we've been divided by in deep differences that really

553
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:19,520
don't make it really don't matter to anybody and when we live love on that whole level we have

554
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:26,320
to passion again the very first thing that goes with any level of mind-trows compassion and that's why

555
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:32,480
we got so much snap judgment going on because people don't even stop to listen to each other anymore

556
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:39,360
have compassion they're too busy asserting their narrative that's repeating and they're

557
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:47,600
you know mask up you know whatever so we need to understand that say that that's that's such an

558
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:54,960
important lesson and and to be takeaways I get from you is one don't give them our anger don't

559
01:01:55,040 --> 01:02:03,040
give them our hatred don't let them have the the when of creating that negativity within us but

560
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:10,080
all but even more than that it just have compassion you know have compassion for our fellow man

561
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:16,560
have compassion for those that are wronging us you know turn the other cheek etc it's I think it's

562
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:25,440
really really important lesson so Kathy you know you spoken about your daughter is she is she still

563
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:32,320
under their control or have you been able to get her out of that system how is that going

564
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:40,560
she is free of that system and she struggles very hard but she's also aware that people are

565
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:49,120
waking up but like many survivors of horrific abuse she struggles um day to day although she

566
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:56,400
lives love she is and is happy to be free she never takes her freedom for granted anymore

567
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:05,280
then I do but she was hurt real bad in the system because once Mark had rescued us out she was

568
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:17,760
taken back into the system when she had a respiratory failure that resulted in hospitalization

569
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:25,760
and she wasn't responding to medication but she was responding to psychological intervention

570
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:34,400
and was therefore thrust into child protective services the so-called child protective services

571
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:45,440
is something that I think people are becoming more and more aware of is a very dark agenda I watched

572
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:51,920
it put in place while it was under mtalt from mine control my owner and mtalt from mine control

573
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:58,000
myself appointed owner was he was center of a Robert seabird and senator bird was in office

574
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:04,640
for over 50 years head of appropriations decided where our country's money was going

575
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:11,600
and he made sure that states were reliant on federal funding for the school system so that they could

576
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:18,320
bring in common court local education senator the bird was very evil in his agenda and um

577
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:26,240
opened up an office in the FBI building to set up the national center for missing and exploited

578
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:33,760
children as a catch net operation for human trafficking for child sex trafficking in particular

579
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:42,000
and that branched out into overseeing child protective services so the most important thing as

580
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:49,920
we're seeking to protect children as keep the FBI away from our kids keep the FBI away from our

581
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:56,240
state systems and realize the corruption that we're seeing in the FBI is just the tip of the iceberg

582
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:04,400
I I could get carried away for a long time on the FBI because the FBI went in and testified against

583
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:13,360
my daughter it testified against it and said there was no such thing as I'm K-altremon control and

584
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:19,600
that there was no such thing as human trafficking it testified against my daughter you know they're

585
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:29,040
just absolutely horrific so I had seen the system being side up while I was in the Washington DC

586
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:37,440
Swarm I was acutely aware of how that system was structured and as I had written it all out

587
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:43,440
in photographic detail and already knew and then my daughter was thrust in that system and it was

588
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:50,960
a nightmare from a second angle coming the coming around because I did all that that's how I became

589
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:56,720
well marked and I became whistleblowers was trying to free her from that corrupted system and we did

590
01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:04,400
that we blew the whistle on that for for years our journey through that system is detailed and

591
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:10,880
accessed denied for reasons in national security how we were able to navigate that system survive

592
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:21,440
that FBI and all their raids and how we were able to do that ultimately how my daughter was

593
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:28,800
free from that system and she is free of it now she was hurt so bad while she was in their

594
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:38,400
custody though that the physical damage done is significant so she's waiting for people to wake up

595
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:44,000
and her her main focus would be that everyone becomes aware of what's going on within child

596
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:49,680
protective services and protect those children because they are trafficked right out of there

597
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:55,920
and they're abused for her in there and they're oftentimes that's the the direction where

598
01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:03,600
they return back to abusers and take it away from any protective parent so our our justice system

599
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:09,680
has a long way to go to clean up and I think that number one get the FBI out of there.

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I think that the majority of people that have

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that understand what's happening in America have that same goal with the FBI especially

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you know the Mara logo raid and then coming after patriots etc so Kathy there's some more questions

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I have for you but these are a little more sensitive I want to talk to you a little more about

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some of the things I saw in your documentary uh Drenic chrome some of the human trafficking elements

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satanic ritual abuse but these are a little more sensitive so I'd rather not have those in the

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public forum so we're going to continue this conversation over on rise TV where you know the

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people over on rise is you know we've we've covered lots of before and and this it's it's our area

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to have these conversations um so but I also want to draw attention to your website so that's

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what you had given me for people and I'll pull this up for you which is um trans hyphen formation

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dot com so this is trans hyphen formation dot com this is your website where people can just follow

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your work you have a an ebook PTSD time to heal which people can can purchase that

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and so this one and direct you over there so we're going to go ahead and play a trailer for your

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your documentary trance and so just when my pilot so folks you can actually watch this trailer on

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right so you watch the documentary on rise TV we have the documentary just launched it on there

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and if you want to continue us in this discussion and dive into some of these other maybe a little

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more darker agenda items uh we're going to do to over on rise TV there is a in the link in the

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description below the video is a link for a free trial so please come join us over there because you

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won't want to miss us and I can tell you that Kathy's documentary is absolutely incredible so let's

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go and roll the trailer for that and we'll continue the conversation over on rise TV. It was so hard

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to come running out of a hell that nobody believed existed.

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My name is Kathy O'Brien and I'm a survivor of MK Ultra Mind Control

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the MK Ultra program was to ultimately control the minds of the population for implementing

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what eight off Hitler first term the new world order. When girls reached age 30 they were murdered

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or they were sacrificed. I was going to be killed as well. I was to go out in a blaze of glory

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and be burned alive. I'm so fortunate that an intelligence insider who saw the kind of corruption

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that was going on in the highest levels of government decided to take action and rescued me and

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saved my life so that we could begin to expose what was being done.

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I focus so welcome to rise TV what we're continues conversation so Kathy one thing I want to

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ask you about you know as I'm piecing things together in this journey you're talking about how

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human trafficking child sex trafficking and the drug trade you know the open borders are such a

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huge profit center for the you know the military industrial complex the deep state you know

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the these corrupt organizations that aren't looking out for our good by any means

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how does that fit in with what we saw with Jeffrey Epstein and how much of this you imagine that

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these people that they just have this they like to abuse children and their sickos but is there

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something more to this where this is part of an entire blackmail operation because that's what it

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my research has also shown that integral to this system is the ability to compromise people I mean

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if you go back to your father it was a f***