1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:16,000 This entire solar system is so resounder, 2 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 boils down to sex and greed. 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 It's where you see interviews with the Royal Family 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 and any circumstance let alone on something like this. 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,000 At the heart of the story is this bizarre, dysfunctional triangle 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 between three people. 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Prince Andrew answering questions for the first time 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,000 about a friendship with convicted sex-eventor Jeffrey Epstein. 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,000 For many years, Prince Andrew tried to avoid this story, 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,000 but ultimately the photograph did it in. 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,000 She provided a photo of the two of you together. 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 You've seen the photos. 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,000 I've seen the photo. 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 How do you explain that? 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,000 I can't. 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,000 I've absolutely no memory of that photograph ever being taken. 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:08,000 The junior Jew Rape alleges that he was perfect to have sex with Prince Andrew. 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Perfect by the Prince's friend, Jeffrey Epstein. 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:19,000 A very young girl and allegedly been abused by the Queen's second son. 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,000 That was utterly shocking. 21 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,000 The reaction was absolute horror. 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,000 How could someone like Prince Andrew have gotten into such horrible behavior? 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 There was a life-sourmon in the making. 24 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Andrew was treated like a little king. 25 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 He was very spoiled. 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Prince Charles was the heir. 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Prince Andrew was simply the spare. 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,000 But Andrew had the edge over Charles because he was the Queen's favorite. 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 That's given him a lot of leverage. 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,000 The problem is, the man's an idiot. 31 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,000 He doesn't drink and he's never taken drugs. 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,000 But from people I told him to, I think he could call him a sex addict. 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,000 He couldn't keep his trousers closed. 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 He could have resigned to Andrew. 35 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 He had a barrisone, sir. 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Prince Andrew's world is dirty money. 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,000 He's dirty laundry and dodgy people. 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Is there any way you could have had sex with that young woman or any young woman trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein in any of his residence? 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 No. 40 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 The New York Times 41 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,000 It was a sort of December 2010. 42 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,000 I got a telephone call from where the newspapers are working for. 43 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,000 The New York Times 44 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 We don't know where and we don't know why. 45 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Could you try and find him? 46 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,000 I don't know. 47 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,000 I've been working as a freelance journalist in New York from 1995. 48 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 And this is a good story or a world exclusive. 49 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Never goes away. 50 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,000 So I cancelled my plans and called if it's all referred to join me. 51 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,000 And Prince Andrew went off to try and find Prince Andrew. 52 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,000 At that point, I'll never really let you go. 53 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 I've never seen you. 54 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 I've never seen you. 55 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 I've never seen you. 56 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,000 I've never seen you. 57 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,000 I've never seen you. 58 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,000 I've never seen you. 59 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 I've never seen you. 60 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,000 I've never realized what a scoop I was about to uncover. 61 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,000 I started looking into his official place as like the Consum General of Britain. 62 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 If he was working, he'd always stay there. 63 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,000 He wasn't staying with the Consum General. 64 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,000 Oh, okay. 65 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,000 That's a, well, the next place to look would be to kill a Maxwell. 66 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 He's very good friend. 67 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 He's got a beautiful townhouse on the Upper East Side. 68 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 So I took a little over to Elaine's house. 69 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Eventually, a towncar arrived and she got into the car. 70 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 So we followed her. 71 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,000 First of all, try and becker, where she went into a bar. 72 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,000 And then she went to a restaurant in the meat-packing districts. 73 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 But no Prince Andrew. 74 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 But it was very clear by 10 o'clock at night. 75 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 He wasn't going to turn up. 76 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 So I went back home, you know, defrosted. 77 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,000 And sat there thinking, where else could he have gone? 78 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,000 I thought, oh, Jeffrey Epstein. 79 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,000 He was a Gillay's ex-boyfriend, but also convicted sex offender. 80 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,000 A judge sentenced the billionaire to 18 months behind bars 81 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,000 for paying underage girls for sex, but his release comes early. 82 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,000 But it seemed very unlikely we would stay with somebody like that. 83 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,000 But that point had no rules to look. 84 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:12,000 So on the following morning, 8 a.m. I went to Jeffrey Epstein's house. 85 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,000 It's the biggest private residence in New York. 86 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 And I sent so lots of activity. 87 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Men in suits, talking literally into their coffers. 88 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,000 And there was clearly somebody in Jeffrey Epstein's house who was important. 89 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,000 And it could only have been Prince Andrew. 90 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000 My could not believe it because I was sitting at my desk. 91 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,000 And I get this phone call from the movie publicist Peggy Seagull. 92 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 And she says, Tina, Tina, I want you to come to a fabulous dinner tonight. 93 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Jeffrey Epstein is hosting a dinner for Prince Andrew. 94 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,000 And Woody Allen is going to be there. 95 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,000 And Charlie Rose is going to be there. 96 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 And we just think it would be wonderful if you could come. 97 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Peggy, then, went on to explain. 98 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,000 This was all about the King's speech, the movie that she was helping to publicise. 99 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,000 It's a story of King George's of sex. 100 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 And it's already getting Oscar buzz. 101 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,000 She said, this is why they want to do this dinner for Andrew, 102 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,000 which seemed like a pretty lame excuse as far as I was concerned. 103 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Because clearly it was another transactional Jeffrey Epstein dinner. 104 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:20,000 The deal was Andrew would enhance Epstein's karma and his rubber decks. 105 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,000 And I just was gopsmarked because in the daily beast, 106 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,000 I had already run six exposays about Jeffrey Epstein. 107 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 She must have surely seen these stories. 108 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,000 And I said to her, you know, Peggy, what is this? 109 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 The effing predator's ball? 110 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,000 I don't want to go to dinner with a pedophile? 111 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Anyway, back in the front of Jeffrey Epstein's, 112 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 the door was opening and closing quite a lot. 113 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,000 We were all watching pretty young girls going in and out. 114 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,000 I've now spent three days trying to find Andrew. 115 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Finally, out came Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew. 116 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 And it was like, oh my god. 117 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Jay, the photographer, leaps out and followed them. 118 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 And they walked straight to Central Park. 119 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Jay's got the head of them. He's still on a rock. 120 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,000 And he looked down and there in the frame was Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein 121 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 in deep conversation. 122 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,000 And he was a terrific, a b user of very young girls. 123 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,000 And the second son of the queen is staying with him and has gone out open to you with him. 124 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Why would he be seeing the Jeffrey Epstein? 125 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 What is Andrew doing? 126 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,000 What is Andrew doing? 127 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 What is Andrew doing? 128 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Let's start at the beginning. 129 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Look at the get. 130 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 All right. 131 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Oh, boy. 132 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 I'm going to go to the next room. 133 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 I'm going to go to the next room. 134 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 I'm going to go to the next room. 135 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,000 And the second son of the queen is staying with him and has gone out open to you with him. 136 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Why would he be seeing the Jeffrey Epstein? 137 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Look at the get. 138 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,000 What is it about the royal world that keeps you fascinated? 139 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Well, you have the institution of monarchy, but you also have a family with all the floors of any other family. 140 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,000 And how do you feel about the Andrew story? 141 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 How long have you got? 142 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Andrew always had this sort of holier than now. 143 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 I'm greater than everybody else. 144 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 I'm just a little bit more mature. 145 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Living at Buckham Palace and having hundreds of staff and everything done for you. 146 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Of course he's going to have some kind of arrogance to that. 147 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 I mean, that's completely normal. 148 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,000 When you are the queen's son, no one ever tells you the truth. 149 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,000 So he really grew up with a completely inflated sense of his own self-worth. 150 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 He's a very weird situational narcissism. 151 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,000 And it means you may not have been born of flaming, you know, narcissism. 152 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 But you become one. 153 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 And I think that's what happened in Prince Andrew. 154 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,000 But then you have to ask yourself, well, why didn't Prince Edward like that? 155 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Or Prince Charles or Prince I? 156 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Why Andrew? 157 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,000 And I suppose there's always one who runs over the litter. 158 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 An Andrew is it. 159 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Any five months old baby would all this baggage travels in royal style. 160 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,000 And that's exactly the case for Britain's little Prince Andrew. 161 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Prince Andrew is born in 1960. 162 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,000 And he was just treasured. 163 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,000 He was the beginning of what the queen and prince Philip called their second family. 164 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,000 The queen's first child, Prince Charles, was born in 1948. 165 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,000 And then Prince's uncle came along in 1950. 166 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:17,000 And then suddenly, the queen's father died in 1952. 167 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:23,000 And the young prince Elizabeth was propelled into this job that she really didn't think 168 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 it was going to happen to her for another 10 years. 169 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,000 I hear a present at you. 170 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Queen Elizabeth, your undoubted queen. 171 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:44,000 For the next decade, she was so busy being queen that she really, really had a difficult time spending much of that period with her children. 172 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,000 She saw them briefly in the morning and briefly in the evening. 173 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,000 And otherwise they were really left in the care of Nannies. 174 00:10:52,000 --> 00:11:00,000 But when Andrew was born, she was determined to see more of this little boy that she had her other two children. 175 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,000 So she would pencil in when she was going to see Andrew. 176 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,000 And he would play under her desk when she was working. 177 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Join us, spare time. The Carbill doesn't know about the new part pattern. 178 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,000 There have been busy on a very special project. 179 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,000 A scale done version of the James Bond Car for young prince Andrew. 180 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Andrew was treated, you know, like a little king. 181 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 He was very spoiled. 182 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 But prince Charles could not have been more different. 183 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Gordon has found his where prince Charles will be in the next summer. 184 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,000 And he treated the same as all the other 400 boys. 185 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,000 My husband was at Gordonston with prince Charles. 186 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 And Charles was very much a loner. 187 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,000 And the boys there picked on him. 188 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Gordonston was all about teaching somebody to sell to swim 189 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 to climb mountains. 190 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,000 But Charles was rather clumsy and didn't fit in there. 191 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,000 But Andrew fit in perfectly there. 192 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,000 He particularly enjoyed the emphasis there on outdoor sports. 193 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Prince Andrew was one of the lads. 194 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 He was very mischievous. 195 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,000 And of course Prince Philip loved this boy. 196 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,000 He was everything that perhaps Charles hadn't been. 197 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,000 So he had even more attention lavished on him. 198 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Being second in line to the throne was very important. 199 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Because Prince Charles was the heir. 200 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 And Andrew was the backer. 201 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000 And you know he enjoyed his mini kingship for many years. 202 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Before the fact dawned on him, 203 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,000 the Nazi he was just number two. 204 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,000 My lads and members of the House of Commons. 205 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:59,000 It's obvious that Prince Charles has always had a future as the future king. 206 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,000 So you have an older brother who's got a job. 207 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,000 And everybody is you know lining up for him. 208 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,000 The prince Andrew's just kind of sitting there. 209 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Andrew's life was to be one of descending importance. 210 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Because of the heir had a son, Philip, who then gave both the three children and down, down, he went. 211 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 And that has been his life for his life. 212 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:32,000 So we had this very needy Prince Andrew who was looking to feel important. 213 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 And then we had the enabler. 214 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:42,000 In some ways it was something really inevitable about the downfall of Andrew as soon as he came into the orbit of Jeffrey Epstein. 215 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,000 I mean that was the path of no return for Andrew. 216 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Your friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. 217 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,000 How did you first become friends? How did you meet? 218 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:04,000 Well, I met through his girlfriend back in 1999, 219 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:09,000 who an I'd known her since she was at university in the UK. 220 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,000 You said you weren't very good friends, 221 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,000 but would you describe him as a good friend? Did you trust him? 222 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Yes, I think I probably did. 223 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,000 But again, I'll be a bit. 224 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:30,000 I don't go into a friendship looking for the wrong thing. 225 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:37,000 At the heart of the story is this bizarre dysfunctional triangle between three people. 226 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Epstein had the money, but no social skills. 227 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Prince Andrew had the status that opened any door. 228 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,000 And Gillan was the glue. 229 00:14:53,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Gillan is really known in Britain as the daughter of medium magnets Robert Maxwell. 230 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:10,000 When I first came to the UK from New York, I met Gillan, and she and I immediately clicked, 231 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,000 because we were both outsiders. 232 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:21,000 She was part of a smart group of people who were so different than those in the Royal Circles, 233 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,000 but she was adopted very quickly as children of being an heir to tentative. 234 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,000 She was very bright. Everybody says very good fun. 235 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,000 And at some point she met Prince Andrew. He was rich. She was entitled. 236 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Gillan was very similar. And so they were a firm friendship. 237 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Pretend it was dazzled by Gillan. 238 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:48,000 You know, here's this wispy smart rich woman. 239 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Plus she was fun and highly sexed. 240 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Let's start to do investigate Gillan and looking into if she was going out of Prince Andrew. 241 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:03,000 He obviously trusted her and Gillan quickly became a regular visitor to Buckingham Palace. 242 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:12,000 I was a place officer with a much modern place, and I was based with the role protection command for six years. 243 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:20,000 My main role was to provide round the clock architecture for the Queen Prince Fiddett and Prince Andrew, whilst in residence. 244 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,000 If you look at the front of the palace, you'll see the placement always on the gate. 245 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:29,000 That's where guests to see Royal Family would go to. 246 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:35,000 But whenever Gillan would enter the palace, the room team was wiened by the way, but no idea, nothing. 247 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:41,000 Straight into the court, Prince Andrew's private apartments, so she would come in and out as often as she wanted. 248 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 And she was in an at all the time. 249 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Which you know, is an incredible breach of security. 250 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:55,000 At one point she took him Kevin Spacey and the two of them sat on thrones and had their pictures taken. 251 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,000 No one else had that access, apart from members of Royal Family. 252 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Myself and my colleagues were under the perception that Prince Andrew and Gillan the Maxwell were in an intimate relationship. 253 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:12,000 The Queen No Robert Maxwell's daughter was being entered the time by Prince Andrew in the palace. 254 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,000 She definitely wouldn't like that. Oh, so we thought. 255 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:24,000 I think Prince Andrew felt Gillan's pain and humiliation probably closer than most people, because it all fell apart for her. 256 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,000 And very, very publicly. 257 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Robert Maxwell, missing at sea, here at last, over board, meets Motio. 258 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,000 Gillan had to deal with the father's death. 259 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,000 But there was a lot more. 260 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:53,000 Police are investigating reports that Maxwell took almost $2 billion from his public companies in the weeks before he plunged to his death from his young. 261 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:59,000 The headlines were Maxwell as a crew. 262 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,000 And so overnight Gillan went from being on everybody's top invitation list. 263 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:11,000 To suddenly just everyone blanking her. 264 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,000 For Gillan there was only one way out of this. 265 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:22,000 And that was cross in the ocean to New York. 266 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:30,000 She was like rehabilitating herself in New York after the disgrace of her father and Britain. 267 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:39,000 As long ago as 2000 added tip that Prince Andrew was having lunch with Gillan Maxwell. 268 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:51,000 Gillan had taken them to a place called Nellos on the Upper East Side, which was a one-only celebrity restaurant that had paparazzi for top of her sitting outside. 269 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Gillan clearly wanted to be seen with Andrew. It gave her street cred. 270 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Andrew started going to New York in a more regular basis and Gillan was always his touch point. 271 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,000 When he was with Gillan in Manhattan, he felt he was a center of attention. 272 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Gillan would invite him to these amazing parties. 273 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,000 By Heidi Klums, Halloween party. 274 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,000 And I don't think Prince Andrew had ever met people like this in his Royal World. 275 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,000 They just had a blast. 276 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,000 And there was genuine affection between them. 277 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:35,000 As I started to investigate Gillan in New York, the name Jeffrey Epstein kept popping up. 278 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:41,000 Everything went back to Jeffrey Epstein, who was his mysterious J. Gatsby character. 279 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Epstein's reputation in New York was basically who's Epstein. 280 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 You know, my husband is a banker. 281 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 When I would talk to bankers, no one had heard of him. 282 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:02,000 Gillan's role for Epstein was to be the bridge to this big time social world. 283 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:09,000 And as far as Gillan was concerned, one of her biggest kind of big white whales that she landed for Epstein was Andrew. 284 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Jeffrey Epstein became known as the collector of important influential people, cremns of the cram. 285 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,000 The top of that list was Prince Andrew. 286 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Americans go crazy for a title because he still don't really understand it. 287 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000 It's something that they don't have, so they want it. 288 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,000 And you got, you know, the Prince of England. They go crazy for that. 289 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,000 That relationship was very valuable for Epstein. 290 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,000 But it wasn't so much about money. 291 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,000 The Royal Connection was really about status. 292 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:51,000 It's quite astonishing when you see how many places Jeffrey Epstein got into courtesy of Prince Andrew. 293 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,000 He got to go to the Queen's private home, Sandranger, to go shooting. 294 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,000 He went with Gillan and Prince Andrew to Balmoral. 295 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000 He went to ball at Windsor Castle. 296 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:15,000 I mean, these were crime invitations that definitely helped his auntie and his social profile. 297 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,000 So he got a lot out of him. 298 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Prince Andrew was not, you know, naive either. 299 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,000 He said, you know, this is the guy that's going to make it happen for me. 300 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,000 He found the people that he thought, you know, he should be with that we're going to change his life. 301 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,000 And that loved him. 302 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,000 When he was with Epstein, he felt he was a center of attention. 303 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,000 He felt he was part of the big time of last. 304 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,000 When she never felt when he was in England. 305 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,000 It's sad when you see the pathetic figure that we see today. 306 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000 There was a moment of promise with him. 307 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Argentina today invaded and seized the Focland Islands, which inmanaged British rule for nearly 150 years. 308 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Have you ever thought about the Focland Islands? 309 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,000 That's my helicopter flying over the moment. 310 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,000 I should go. I think this is almost time I should go. 311 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,000 There is a long tradition of Princess putting themselves in harm's way on the battlefield. 312 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,000 Most recently of course, Prince Andrew flying highly dangerous helicopter missions. 313 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Prince Andrew was aged 21 when he joined my squadron. 314 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,000 The fact that he was a member of the Royal Family really caught no ice whatsoever. 315 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 He was the Asapinas. 316 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:46,000 The role of the squadron was for tech hardships from missile aircraft to tech as well as some renotact. 317 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,000 There was a high risk thing for him to have to do. 318 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,000 And he rose the case. 319 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,000 I've been shocked at the way that the ships were taken out. 320 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,000 He's a really nasty burning wreck. 321 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,000 I mean, it was quite horrific. 322 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,000 At that point, he's now action-prens-and-the. 323 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,000 He's on the fire. He's genuinely out there fighting in the Focland. 324 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000 He certainly acquitted himself very, very well. 325 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,000 His best moments were in the Navy because there he had some structure and he had some purpose. 326 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000 And he wasn't a bad officer. 327 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Our family is used to service. 328 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:32,000 There wasn't that much of a reaction in the sense that, well, off you go. 329 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 That's your job. 330 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,000 Go. 331 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:49,000 The day we returned to Portse and I said, the nation turned out to see if Frank was lying with his people. 332 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:57,000 When Frank came back from the Focland, he was a war hero. 333 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,000 He was called the One with the Rubber Bedford looks. 334 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:07,000 And that was probably the height of his popularity. 335 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,000 People just loved Frank's Andrew. 336 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,000 He was the most eligible batch in the country. 337 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Would you accept the invitation from the French? 338 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,000 What are you doing? 339 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:24,000 He had a reputation of being a ladies man, but it's done him in trouble ever since. 340 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,000 The organizers of the sports display hadn't forgotten the Princess reputation with the girls. 341 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:43,000 Randy Andy has a practice dive for the ladies and his romantic adventures have been well-publicized. 342 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Like those principal me Randy. 343 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000 I'm an off-y guy. 344 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Prince Andrew was known as the playboy Prince. 345 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,000 He was a very good looking guy. 346 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 When we were literally falling at his feet, 347 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,000 he always had lovely, exciting girl friends. 348 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000 There was Carolyn Herbert. 349 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:41,000 He was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who was a guy who 350 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:47,240 he certainly deserves that after the war in the falklands but it is who he was with that has made the headlines 351 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,680 It turned out as an actress she depended on all's house moving where there were sex scenes 352 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,160 This suddenly became unacceptable to the British public 353 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,920 The soul was she wasn't suitable 354 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,200 marriage material 355 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,080 I know this is typical 356 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,800 British tabloids are both in their quest for new narratives all the time 357 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,000 I mean they build you up and they crush you we saw this with Megan Mangal 358 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,080 Harry 359 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:34,360 I'm sure the coups dog was under the first two love and I think it was mutual Prince Andrew 360 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:38,200 I think wanted to marry coup star she clearly made him very happy 361 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:45,160 But it was bringing the family into dispute whatever was hanging on Prince Andrew 362 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:51,320 There's bouncing off on the rest of the family and had the potential to damage the institution 363 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,880 Andrew came under tremendous pressure 364 00:26:54,360 --> 00:27:00,840 In the court of public opinion, and perhaps as well from his own family that no he could not marry coup star 365 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,320 You know you need to find an English rose or British girl 366 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,240 So ultimately they swiss up 367 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,720 The pressure was too bright 368 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:24,760 And then came Fergi as she's become no Sarah Ferguson age 26 up bringing impeccable social connections 369 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,040 Excellent 370 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,040 Sarah's a close friend of the princess of Wales 371 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:38,200 A two were frequently seen together but at that time the camera and wear paint so much attention to Diana's red headed companion 372 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,880 In contrast to coup stock Fergi actually knew a little bit more about the workings of the role family 373 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,880 Her father was Prince Charles's polio manager and in fact Fergi had already met Prince Andrew 374 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,720 When they were kids together 375 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,680 The first time that I can remember was 376 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,600 On the polio home, the usual place for everybody beats 377 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,880 Could I ask you if you could tell us what you like about each other? 378 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,840 Oh, wait 379 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,720 Charles is probably and the red hair and the good looks 380 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Good week 381 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:29,240 Charles rang to the happy cries of photographers today with the universally expected announcements of their engagement 382 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:35,480 Andrew and Sarah Ferguson were a fantastic couple 383 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,920 She was bright beautiful gun home would do anything for a laugh 384 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,080 Wow, he's good 385 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:51,560 When Fergi came in to the picture Prince Andrew thought he was more than a royal I think he thought he was a celebrity 386 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,440 He just loved every bit of attention he got 387 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:08,280 The British royal family is the world's longest running show and what's happening now is the introduction of a new character 388 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,800 The interest in Andy Fergi's wedding was immense 389 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:21,000 It's the true air of expectation here this morning because these people have been waiting all night long 390 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,640 I'm in sweat mode with the crowd in fact, I don't think I could get away with our audience 391 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,200 The public is a husband fascinated by celebrity 392 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,680 And the place celebrity and gear is the Queen's family 393 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:48,920 There were this townism in the new model family a couple who genuinely delighted in each other 394 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:54,200 So we thought wow if something had ever happened to Prince Charles 395 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,160 It would be Andrew that would be our future king 396 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:04,120 It was a sense that the dashing second son had married this joyful redhead and everything was upbeat 397 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,920 But of course very fast 398 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,800 collapsed 399 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,840 What have you learned so things can be best over the two is this year? 400 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:25,000 We've got a terrific range of merchandise it's so good look at this type now that is part of this year's merchandise 401 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:32,440 When I joined Buckingham Palace in 1998 my job was as one of the Queen's press secretary 402 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:39,560 In those days the media was sort of crompting the arrival of Fergi and Andrew as a breath of fresh air 403 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,920 But my hate that phrase breath of fresh air because it didn't take long for that air to turn very very 404 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,920 stale 405 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,960 They couldn't maintain an air of decorum 406 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,280 Prince Andrew and Fergi were sort of early adopters of leveraging titles for all sorts of deals 407 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:05,080 There was a story we broke in the sun when they had their second child 408 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,720 They posed up for hello magazine 409 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,400 And the rumor was that they'd been paid £250,000 410 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,720 And in those days that was seen as an extremely unroyal exploitative thing to do 411 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,800 They were brand you know today we hear about this all the time everybody's a brand but not in those days and I think 412 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,280 You know the two of them sat down and said you know we should monetize ourselves 413 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,720 They were thrilled to be cheapening the monarchy. I think that was a major turning point 414 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,520 It seems to sort of go downhill from there actually 415 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,520 All right, I miss the fan, don't you see some york? 416 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,560 I think Fergi thought it would be champagne all the way it's gonna be fun fun 417 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,400 But it wasn't fun 418 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:03,320 Fergi was thrust into the royal world without Prince Andrew because he was still in the navy 419 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,280 She was very unhappy very quickly because she really saw Andrew never 420 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,600 I think she saw him for something like 40 days in the first year of her marriage 421 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,160 And here she was this young 422 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,720 Ride stocking this gloomy marriage 423 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,600 She was miserable and full moon and 424 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,880 Quickly started sort of acting out 425 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:41,960 Tabloid newspaper is published pictures today of a topless Fergi sunbathing in central pay with her financial advisor 426 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,320 One picture showed him kissing the Duchess's foot several featured the pair in intimate embrace 427 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:53,640 The pictures of Fergi went around the world 428 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,480 The public was shocked 429 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,480 Anybody who cared about the rules was shocked 430 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,120 And the rule family what's only disgusted 431 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,600 The reaction was one of absolute horror 432 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,240 Buckingham Palace if you were statement, the squadly disaffuting number four of rats and the circumstances 433 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,840 And what if they were taken? 434 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:24,920 Once those pictures have come out Prince Philip refused to even be in the same room as Sarah 435 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,440 Andrew was very weak when it came to his father because he has no agent to his own 436 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,280 Essentially he allowed Fergi to be sort of banished 437 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,200 The Duke of York who suffered the humiliation of pictures of his half naked white being published 438 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,520 Throughout the world looked calm today as he's doing the church on the front seat of the Queen's call 439 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,880 As a marriage for a second son, Paul so publicly apart 440 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:57,640 That was 1992 the Queen's Alice Heribilis one of those years when anything that could go wrong did go wrong 441 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,640 It's clear that what we're witnessing here is a national tragedy 442 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,800 The fight to save one of the nation's best love buildings 443 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,320 Buckingham Palace made it official today 444 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,040 The Prince and Princess of Wales are to separate 445 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,240 The sad end of a partnership and the start of the potentially damaging era for the monarchy 446 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:30,200 1992 is not a year on which I shall look back with undiluted pleasure 447 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,600 It has turned out to be an annus or a rebellious 448 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:40,440 It was at that time it was decided that Fergi and Andrew should split 449 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:47,400 So the Queen didn't dip it in the bud pretty quickly because it's about protecting the back sides of her children 450 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:57,320 If you look at Prince Andrew's choices and my you get an idea of what kind of person he is 451 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,520 The Prince was touring a housing project yesterday when he picked up a paint gun and pulled the trigger 452 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:12,680 The Prince went to a novelty restaurant where mock spankings are given by waitresses dressed in schoolgirl skirts 453 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,520 Where did paper reveal the prince's view kept in before? 454 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,560 Prince Andrew was so different than Prince Charles 455 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:30,280 The reputation Prince Charles has is as a statesman who seem loved and made a more handy bit 456 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,240 Prince Charles is serious 457 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,240 Liz and Jonathan 458 00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:40,680 You know he is genuinely committed to the monarchy 459 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:43,240 Too many of us in the West 460 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:48,120 There is something quite studious about him and the same cannot be said for Prince Andrew 461 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,240 Andrew and Charles have never really been close because there's an over 10 year age gap 462 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,280 So Andrew always grew up new in the Charles was obviously the heir to the throne and he wasn't 463 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:12,280 But Andrew had the edge over Charles because Andrew's always known that he had the Queen's intense affection 464 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,480 That actually he is her favorite 465 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,840 That's given him a lot of leverage 466 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,840 We saw this with Fergi 467 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,080 London's Somerset House here the divorce court in which the York's marriage was this morning effectively ended 468 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:37,080 On the railings outside there's the last of 29 cookie divorce cases listed for HRH the Duke of York and HRH the Duchess of York 469 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:42,760 The collapse of the marriage to Sarah Ferguson was a disaster in terms of both their 470 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,760 Revisions 471 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,200 But Andrew has always really staying in love with Fergi 472 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:57,400 Are they still live together very near to the Queen and they moved in very very wealthy circles and they wanted to be like those those friends 473 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:06,360 It's global elicism has a capital if he's surely here in Davos 474 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,680 So here's the thing about royals 475 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,640 When we see Prince Andrew and private jets rubbing elbow with billionaires 476 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,440 Doing rich and luxurious things 477 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,200 Our assumption is that you know he has to be very rich he has to be a billionaire but 478 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,040 He isn't 479 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:36,520 If you're royal unless you're the queen or Prince Charles you're just not that rich 480 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,880 The queen has her own private wealth 481 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,600 Which at forms we estimated at five hundred and million dollars 482 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,640 She doesn't own bucking in palace, but she owns two castles worth over two hundred million dollars 483 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,360 Her private income is about thirty million dollars a year 484 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:05,800 As the heir to the throne, Prince Charles has this massive estate that he has inherited and the private income from that 485 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,920 Which is also about thirty million dollars a year 486 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,920 But the Queen's other children obviously were not as lucky 487 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,880 Their income is really contingent upon the work that they do as a royals 488 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:28,200 And also whether their mother wants to you know give them any pocket money 489 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,080 So you would ask what happens to Prince Andrew 490 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,960 As it were King royal he made roughly three hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year 491 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,240 Which would pay for a lot of things if you're me 492 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,080 But if you're Prince Andrew living a certain type of lifestyle 493 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,480 It's not actually a lot of money 494 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,960 Other royals don't live that flashy lifestyle 495 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,640 You know we see them in the news every day, but it's their royal duties 496 00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:58,760 That's what they're doing you know you're not gonna see them on a private yacht 497 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,280 But Andrew belongs to a different group of people 498 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:11,320 An opulent luxurious fancy lifestyle is not something you can buy out of your own pocket 499 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,240 So you're dependent financially on your mother 500 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,320 You 501 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:27,320 Where you have apartments when you spend time in London Princess Royal still has these and I have what was 502 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,440 The Prince of Wales is a apartment, but they're not very big they're only about three four rooms here 503 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:40,680 I went to see Prince Andrew once when he was living in Buckingham Palace and I was sort of struck by what a dingy scene it was 504 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,680 Kind of slam and that 505 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,840 Now it was a department 506 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:51,160 Was as if he was living in a second-rate hotel you sort of suddenly saw just how he has to ask his mother for everything 507 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:58,840 He's completely infantilized Prince Andrew's a brat and in fact there was a story about how he lines up his 508 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000 Teddi's on his bed every night 509 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,760 You want to tell your best story 510 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:10,040 As a raw protection of soap we would do security checks on their personal apartments 511 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,680 I went to Prince Andrew's private apartments and he had about 512 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,920 I suppose it's a 50 or 60 stuff Teddy bears on his bed. Is this your Teddy? 513 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,920 It's got a new scarf 514 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,120 A fault for a 41 year old mom was a bit odd 515 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,800 And then the up in the drawer and it was a laminated picture in the drawer with picture of the Teddy bears all these 516 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,880 Situ and a bed basically if those teddy bears are put back in that older 517 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,240 Prince Andrew's shirt and screaming at the modes so they took a picture so make sure I get it right 518 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,200 Many grown men yes they keep their tetties locked away but they don't still have them on their beds with 519 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,720 Andide grounds for staff to fall up you know most of us have gotten past that 520 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:59,640 So the queen is lumped with this not very clever boy who wants action and she has this kind of conundrum 521 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,640 Which is what are we going to do with Prince Andrew? 522 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,960 The Duke chose HMS art royal for his farewell to the navy 523 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,880 22 years I have thoroughly enjoyed myself with the light of you 524 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,600 When Prince Andrew retired from the navy 525 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,440 He was a joblice who is also short of money 526 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,000 He saw how to house to upkeep he had an x y for two daughters 527 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,840 So he was giving this job his woven trade-ampass 528 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,120 Which involves flying around the world allegedly promoting British businesses 529 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:49,320 It was basically a fake job it didn't actually pay but it gave him access to a lot of perks 530 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,240 You became known as Hamiles Andy because he was constantly on an airplane 531 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,440 You know pulling off three trips here there in every world 532 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:08,680 Amiles Andy and his travels that been too costly say some his trade-em-voi work because the taxpayer just over one million pounds a year 533 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,960 Hey, I ask you about the comments that are made about an extravagant lifestyle and so forth. Is that fair? 534 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,600 Isn't extravagant lifestyle sometimes people do look at the role family and see 535 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,480 perhaps that privileges being used 536 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,680 To give them a lifestyle that 537 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,400 People might think of as unreasonable. Well, I have to ask the question what is a reasonable lifestyle 538 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,920 Not long after 9.11 539 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:43,400 I went to Bahrain as the deputy ambassador at the British embassy 540 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:51,160 When the Duke of York came in for visits the problem started right from the beginning 541 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,760 He had a private secretary 542 00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:03,160 to detectives and a query a lady clock that she's called was sold job apparently as to 543 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,280 Right thank you letters 544 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:13,000 We went with the Bahrain officials in convoy to the main five star hotel on the island 545 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:20,360 Because Duke of York and then he always refuses to stay at an ambassador's residence even though it's free 546 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,520 It's paid for by the government. He always likes to stay in the best hotel 547 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:33,080 At one point I was coordinating things in the foyer when the valley then turns up with the luggage and 548 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,600 Print and respsix foot ironing board and 549 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,240 Tristan get his ironing board 550 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,720 Through the revolving door of the five star rich carton hotel 551 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:51,800 And I said to the chap why you traveling with an ironing board and he said I'm the only person that knows how to iron 552 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,760 His royal highness's trousers correctly 553 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:03,800 The whole thing was an embarrassment and then I discovered that all these other people had the same sort of stories 554 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,320 What people really became worried about in the foreign office was not only was he unbelievably 555 00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:12,200 Oficion his kind of social manners and rude 556 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:18,600 But also he would be going off and doing these side deals with if he people that wasn't even on the agenda 557 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,280 I am not doing this as it were for my own good 558 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:28,600 I am not getting any return for this this is all done on behalf of the UK 559 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,080 It's not done on my behalf 560 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,600 You would go off and be partying with these oligarch types 561 00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:43,320 Essentially using the trade-own basket ship as some kind of springboard for his own sleazy deals 562 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:50,520 For instance in advance of the Duke of York's last visit when I was in buckering a 563 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:57,400 Private secretary had told me during the pre-visit meeting that he might be mentioning 564 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,280 Sunning Hill Park which was his house but had been out for sale for a while 565 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,040 And I expressed surprise because I thought this wouldn't be 566 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,320 Particularly ethical 567 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:21,960 Couldn't unload the house they would be wanted to buy it at all and then all of a sudden this oligarch buys this house for three million pounds over the asking price 568 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:29,480 The only difference in this house from when it had first been on the market was it was now in the flight path of Heathrow Airport 569 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:37,640 So it was actually even less desirable than it had been a few years before but it's frankly always been seen as some kind of a dubious deal 570 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:49,320 Resigning there's no way Prince Charles is going to accept the freebies that Prince Andrew has 571 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,040 And then talk about them and be seen doing them 572 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,280 He's become an embarrassment to the role family 573 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:02,040 I think we should say thank you for what you've done over the years to promote British trade 574 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:08,360 But he needs to step back he needs to go he just kept messing up and making dodgy deals and you know 575 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,840 It came to an abrupt end let's just leave like that 576 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:16,120 And now he's stepping aside the UK special end boy for trade 577 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,360 It will be seen as a response to the controversies he's brought upon himself 578 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,720 Without all the perks I think he needed abstain 579 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,080 The moment Prince Andrew met abstain he said 580 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:41,320 Who are because abstain was every dodgy businessman or shake all wrapped up into this one little guy to who offered him everything 581 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,320 You want it 582 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:48,840 When you realize that Prince Andrew himself is actually not that rich then you understand why Jeffrey 583 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,840 Epstein would be such an attractive friend 584 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,680 Because he would foot the bill 585 00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:04,200 Further needed money to pay off very steps and it was Andrew's job to see if Jeffrey Epstein could perhaps help out a little 586 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,680 Which we later discovered he did 587 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:17,400 It was a pretty good financial social status trade that went off between them 588 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,560 And then of course the other great glue between them was Andrew sexline 589 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000 You 590 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,280 Every so often you have these three rumors Prince Andrew and Furgie 591 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,080 We're getting back together 592 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,000 Meanwhile Andrew started going out with other women 593 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,320 After the marriage he really sort of went into overdrive 594 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,680 There were models their actresses 595 00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:03,000 For any young woman if you're you know asked out on a date by Prince Andrew you're probably not going to say no 596 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,520 It all looked very glamorous 597 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,720 The first time that I met Prince Andrew who was on a double day 598 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,360 You know who wouldn't want to be at dinner with Prince Andrew you know 599 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,720 Andrews of masculine guy in the fact that he's 600 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:29,320 flown planes and he's like a real guy and I think women are attracted to that 601 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,160 It was fun 602 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:39,320 But we couldn't go into any place without their being you know 20 photographer outside 603 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,880 Prince Andrew was getting an awful lot of attention and an awful lot of gossip 604 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,880 Which is exactly what he's not supposed to do 605 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,920 Money you've got to admit that he depends on our story in the 90s. It was a tap-loid sales frenzy 606 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:14,280 If you could get a picture of Andrew with a new girlfriend it was worth a lot of money in those days and would have say once the drop-back 607 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:26,520 Andrew and funny moved into middle age 608 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,080 He put on weight he got grire 609 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,400 But he thought he was still the young playboy Prince 610 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,880 The talk of the dinner party is was that you know he couldn't keep his trousers closed 611 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,120 I 612 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,680 Then a sports injury massage therapist for about 10 years 613 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,040 I got a phone call one Sunday 614 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:01,080 Just asking me if I was available to come and do the home visit and I went to the Royal Lodge and 615 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,640 I was the first time I met Prince Andrew 616 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,040 His massage table was set up 617 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:11,080 But it was in a bedroom but again I said I don't tend to work in people's bedroom that was completely unusual 618 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:20,760 I didn't hear him come in but this male voice I just announced great do you take it? 619 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,600 I shot up how was absolutely astounded 620 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,080 And I kind of spun around and he was slightly right up against me 621 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:35,080 Pretty much you know no snooze almost and thank god I just had the wear rule with all just to say 622 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,120 You know no your business he then said 623 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,600 You can't talk to me like that and I just said you can't talk to me like that 624 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:48,360 From then on in it was just a lot of sexual in your endos lots of sex jokes 625 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,400 Lots of talk about you know asking me inappropriate questions about sex 626 00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:56,040 Every time I saw or any you tried to hug me 627 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:02,280 Sometimes trying kiss me and just a bit weird and creepy to be honest and quite frightening to scoff 628 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,280 Sticken way to approach a woman 629 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:11,800 Andrew doesn't drink alcohol he's never smoked and he's never taken drugs 630 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,360 But his one big thing is sex 631 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,320 Mark Hollywood is it fucking impalice we still have the jug that he should have what I would do with his bedroom 632 00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:29,960 The matter with me that guy in an atleast it was just literally every other day 633 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:35,960 Some would become interested in different one every time these stories started to appear with increasing the 634 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,760 Repidity and I think for Prince Andrew having 635 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:45,800 Witnessed the demise of Prince's Diana from the press. I think it was a bit of you know why are the tabloids doing this to me 636 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,440 I think Prince Andrew genuinely believed that he has his mother's standing 637 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,080 We all know that 638 00:51:55,240 --> 00:52:01,720 Even if the queen were to have a cocaine fueled party we wouldn't report it because everybody reveres the queen 639 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,600 The difference is nobody loves Prince Andrew 640 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:06,840 The young 641 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:16,600 Playboy Prince became this sour middle-aged man who was rude who upset people and people would leak stories 642 00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:24,920 On monocation a female turned up and said that she was here to see Prince Andrew 643 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:32,200 We've apologized to the young ladies and we really sorry can't let you in at the moment so we can get confirmation from the staff 644 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,840 So she'd had us fine and you'll be to ring him on my mobile so we said yeah, that's fine 645 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,280 She rang him up we could hear a conversation anyway. He said put one of the officers on 646 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:46,760 The McCollies took the phone is shouted at the top of his voice listen to me 647 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,680 You fat lardiosk if you don't let my more guests did not gonna come down there 648 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,360 We just hand she went bright red if she was embarrassed and we just let her in 649 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:03,320 You would think the member the wrong family would have some kind of decor and respect for the staff there 650 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:09,320 They're piter protecting them and look after them. This none none at all is just a horrible person 651 00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,720 Is a bully 652 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,600 He became this sad couch potato living in his grand but dinge apartment 653 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:24,440 Certain grievance all the time about the fact that he wasn't bigger and better than who he was and I think it kind of ate away 654 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,440 And he's so ready 655 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,720 In San Francisco's daily life in Britain we'd be spent inspecting military parades 656 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,680 cutting ribbons 657 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:45,160 He's like he's probably quite dull 658 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,960 He was a side-sharp he wasn't rich enough he wasn't the heir to the throne 659 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:57,160 Meanwhile Epstein was very very good at making him feel that treating him as if he was a major big deal 660 00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:06,360 Jeffrey Epstein was a wash with money and property all over the world they're a lot of pretty girls around 661 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:12,600 But the privacy that Epstein offered the house in Manhattan 662 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,800 The private plane 663 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:22,840 The private islands that for Andrew was heaven. I mean he was able to behave as badly as he wanted behind closed doors 664 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,480 This entire 665 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:26,680 Sorry saga 666 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,680 Balls down to sex and greed 667 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:33,080 Prince Andrew has never had a woman saying no to him as fraught as we know 668 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,480 But then we hear about Virginia Robots Jiffy 669 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,160 So 670 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,640 I've been working on sexual abuse cases for many years 671 00:54:54,280 --> 00:55:01,320 This is the only lawsuit now filed by one of Mr. Cosby's sexual assault victims that and I represented for 672 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,240 Young girls in the original litigation against Jeffrey Epstein 673 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:14,920 It was incredibly surprising that Prince Andrew was associated himself with somebody like that and bring such an embarrassment upon the crown 674 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,920 But based upon his history it seems 675 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:25,800 Prince Andrew has lived his life very similar to Jeffrey Epstein which is narcissistic 676 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:31,240 He thinks he's infallible but thinks that everyone will believe everything he says and that he can 677 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:36,120 Basically do whatever he wants whatever he wants without any consequence or recourse 678 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,320 It only changed after Virginia came forward with her story 679 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,360 We turn next to a controversy shaking Britain's royal family 680 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:56,440 Allegations in US federal court by Virginia Roberts robbers claimed she was forced to have sexual relations with the Prince when she was a minor 681 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,120 The explosive claim blanketing Britain's front pages today 682 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,680 Virginia Roberts was taken under Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein's wing at a very young age 683 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,360 Around 15 years old 684 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:16,280 They introduced her to people of notoriety and one of those people clearly was Prince Andrew 685 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,120 I was broken up by Gulin in the morning and told I was going to meet a Prince 686 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:27,400 Virginia was groomed and essentially made to be a sexual slave of Jeffrey Epstein and his friends which included Prince Andrew 687 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,800 Gulin tells me in the car that I have to do 688 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:38,600 What I do for Jeffrey before Prince Andrew. It's completely inappropriate behavior on behalf of someone like Prince Andrew 689 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,440 to even be put in a situation with a young girl 690 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:48,200 How if people were allowing this to happen not only allowing it to happen but participate in it 691 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,160 When Virginia came out with her story regarding Prince Andrew 692 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:59,720 I felt the same way about her story that I originally had felt about the young woman that I represented 693 00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:01,720 Against Jeffrey Epstein 694 00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:03,240 Don't stop for a minute 695 00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:05,240 If you don't want to just fight to she I'm sorry 696 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:13,960 I knew the royal family would attack her make her out as a liar all of the typical tactics that we saw in the Epstein saga 697 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:19,800 I knew we're going to happen to her unfortunately probably tenfold given who she was going up against 698 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,800 Prince Andrew is on the defensive this morning 699 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:30,840 Buckingham Palace forcefully denying the bombshell allegations not one but an unprecedented four statements issued 700 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,200 Buckingham Palace comes out all guns blazing and just denies denies denies denies 701 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,480 Any suggestion of impropriety with underage minors is categorically untrue 702 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,280 I remember when the story broke 703 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:52,360 Andrew was away skiing and he actually came back to almost direct operations in the press office to make sure that the wording was absolutely right 704 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:59,720 I've just wished to reiterate as to real firm a statements which have already been made on my behalf 705 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,440 He was in effect denying everything he wasn't in any of these locations 706 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,160 He didn't have sex and he certainly didn't know who she was 707 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:15,080 And her evidence there's this photo from 2001 in London Robert 17 at the time with Prince Andrew 708 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,040 She says they had sex that night 709 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,200 As journalists we say there's no words without a picture 710 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,240 And there was this picture of very young 711 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:33,160 17-year old Virginia standing a galae Maxwell's home with Andrew's Puggy fingers ran to bear midriff 712 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:40,280 The original photographs that everyone saw of just Prince Andrew and Epstein hanging out 713 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,640 That's 714 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,640 Poor judgment and character 715 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:56,280 But when you actually place Andrew with an underage young girl who then comes forward and tells the story behind that photograph and what had occurred to her 716 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:07,480 That was the pivotal moment in changing the entire story was he just a bad judge of character or was he instead an actual sexual abuser 717 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:15,800 He was going to drag the entire world family into a disaster circumstances 718 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,640 So the Buckingham Palace machinery kicks in so action 719 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,840 He shot the whole Virginia thing down 720 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:28,280 Had the story for three years, I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts 721 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,560 We would now put it on the air 722 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,800 First of all I was told who's Jeffrey Epstein no one knows who that is this is this is stupid story 723 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:43,480 Then the palace found out that we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us in the new different ways 724 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:51,000 Power can be very scary to large news institutions or television studios or whatnot 725 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:58,280 And unfortunately what happens in sexual abuse oftentimes is that it is a he said she said story 726 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00:02,760 You have a young girl in the one hand and you have royalty on the other 727 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,440 The press and the media have a healthy fear of the repercussions of putting out a story 728 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:17,960 And that fear really is what kept news media out of not only the Prince Andrew story, but as well the Jeffrey Epstein story from the beginning 729 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,960 I 730 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:35,160 Still remember it today I was sleeping it was early in the morning 731 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:41,240 I got a phone call from another attorney and he said are you watching the news? 732 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,920 Billion air financier Jeffrey Epstein has been arrested and arrested in charge with sex trafficking 733 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:48,920 Good morning 734 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:54,600 Today we announce the unsealing of sex trafficking charges against Jeffrey Epstein 735 01:00:55,240 --> 01:01:00,040 If you have evidence or information we want to hear from you 736 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:08,840 When Epstein was re-arrested in 2019 my first thought was what are the victims gonna think 737 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:16,840 I was hopeful that maybe the full story would come out and these girls were finally see some justice done 738 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,320 I 739 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,080 2019 was like a new era 740 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:32,120 The me two social media campaign against sexual harassment is now spilling into the streets 741 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,400 Women something had a voice 742 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,600 They were speaking out 743 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:46,280 Harvey Weinstein the grotesque abuser a woman had been convicted 744 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,760 The verdict of victory for the me two movement and as accusers 745 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:58,120 Everybody thought I lost justice is about so he don't it was a completely different world that that was 746 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,360 Entering into where people were now listening to these women about their story 747 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:10,120 Epstein's arrest most of shaken a lot of people who been involved with Epstein 748 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:22,120 And we'll have to wait and see whether Epstein's gonna name names it is time for Jeffrey Epstein and those who participated in these sex crimes to be brought to justice 749 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:28,760 Epstein being arrested was a body blow for Andrew, but that wasn't the worst thing that happened for him 750 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,680 Breaking news out of New York 751 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,160 Jeffrey Epstein is dead 752 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,120 When Epstein dies in jail 753 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,080 Everyone starts turning their sights to who's left behind 754 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:49,720 People like golem Maxwell and tonight the whereabouts of Gilein Maxwell still a mystery 755 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,040 When the story couldn't get any weird a 756 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,680 Gilein simply vanished 757 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,440 Where is Gilein Maxwell? We don't know where she is 758 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,160 We don't know exactly where she is. It sounds like she may be in Europe 759 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:07,320 She's was just to spit off the face of the other then she's keys to all of this and that's when the story really started to blow up 760 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:08,920 for Prince Andrew 761 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,120 70 Andrew found himself in the red hole spotlight 762 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:24,840 The Daily Mail has got 10 questions here that it believes the palace should be answering 763 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:30,840 As the story began to unfold Prince Andrew took it upon himself 764 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,800 to do an interview 765 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,200 The decision to do that interview was the most unbelievable 766 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,720 Self-destructive decision you could possibly make I mean Andrew strapped on a suicide vest 767 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:48,440 and sat down with one of the most forensic interviewers 768 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,880 I was I was actually sweating on his behalf 769 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,840 I was a Saturday night in November 770 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,160 I sat down on the sofa at my home in London and oh 771 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,360 I was just stunned 772 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,600 I'm just trying to work this out you were staying at the house as convicted sex offender 773 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,360 It was a convenient place to stay 774 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:20,120 There's I mean I've gone through this in my mind so many times and I admit fully that that that my 775 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,360 Judgment was probably colored by my 776 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:36,040 Tendency to be too honorable, but that's just the way it is because during that time I watched the news night interview with with Brian disbelief really 777 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,520 Do you regret the whole friendship with Epstein 778 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:47,320 Now I still not I mean it was a plate where I wanted to stop my own fist in my mouth 779 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:52,680 I was like no oh my god, oh you threw a birthday party 780 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,480 For Epstein's girlfriend go then Maxwell 781 01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,320 No shooting weekend shooting week just a straightforward straightforward shooting weekend 782 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,080 It was quite astonishing the excuse he came up with 783 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,320 Here's the problem 784 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:13,480 I've never seen Epstein with a camera in my life Andrew said the picture of him with Virginia was fake 785 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:19,640 I mean that's a picture of me. It's not a picture of I don't believe it's a picture of me in the London because when I would go out to 786 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,240 When I go out in London I wear the suit on the tie 787 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:30,680 It was just yeah great conspiracy theory the photograph is taken upstairs and I don't think I have a went upstairs 788 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:36,600 You sure that yeah because because the because the dining room and everything was on the was on the ground floor 789 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:42,040 That interview utterly ripped a shreds every one of his excuses 790 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,480 You have to be everyone's stand that that's I I I I 791 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,360 But but but I 792 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,520 Yeah 793 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,000 In essentially revealed him to the public as 794 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,360 Absolutely beyond the pale 795 01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:03,320 She described dancing with you and you profusely sweating and that she went on to have 796 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,280 Barns of this possibly this is slight problem with with with with with the sweating 797 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:10,600 because 798 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,640 I have a 799 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:14,280 peculiar 800 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:19,800 Medical condition which is that I don't sweat or I didn't sweat at the time and that was 801 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,720 Was she yes I didn't sweat at the time because I 802 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:31,000 Had suffered what I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline and the falcons war when I was shot out 803 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,880 And then of course when newspapers found pictures of been wearing almost the same blue shirt 804 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,200 Sweating at that time 805 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:51,320 And then you know there was the pizza express story on that particular day I was at home 806 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,360 I was with the children I'd taken pictures to 807 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,120 a pizza express in 808 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:05,240 Working for a party. Why would you remember that so specifically? Why would you remember a pizza express birthday in being at home? 809 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:10,520 Because going to pizza expressing working is an unusual thing for me to do 810 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:20,440 Woking is a strange little time not far from Windsor and the idea of Prince Andrew picking his daughter up from a pizza express in 811 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,440 Woking became a joke 812 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:27,800 He can't remember meeting woman having a photo with her but he can't remember a pizza 813 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,800 He had 18 years ago 814 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:36,760 So he went to pizza express for a bit in the afternoon isn't an alibi to cover the whole evening 815 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,760 It has expressed in a title 816 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:50,040 Prince Andrew is an idiot for having agreed to it on the interview 817 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:55,080 I would have put my foot firmly down so I don't do it. You're not allowed to do it 818 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,840 Andrew thought that his word would be taken as gospel 819 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,680 He later actually told his mother that it'd gone rather well 820 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:13,080 Andrew thought, oh I've got a vehicle I can justify my friendship right and clear my name 821 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,680 Well he didn't justify his friendship and he certainly didn't clear his name 822 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:25,560 Backwashed this morning. Did you watch the interview? This interview is sparking an immediate firestorm 823 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,120 Shood Cockroach 824 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:35,000 The headlines have been scathing a car crash total curling insane were some of the quotes 825 01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:42,440 Prince Andrew may have hoped to answer the burning questions instead he's called gas on the flames 826 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:54,680 After the news night interview the queen went riding with him in Windsor Great Park 827 01:08:55,720 --> 01:09:00,760 Knowing the photographers were there the queen is very cany she's not an idiot at all 828 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:06,360 She wanted to support him and she decided that she believed what her son told her 829 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,680 Right after the interview the Prince Andrew gave the U.S. attorneys office 830 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,720 made it abundantly clear that they wanted to speak with him 831 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:26,520 The Southern District of New York and the FBI have contacted Prince Andrew's attorneys and requested to 832 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:34,200 interview Prince Andrew and today Prince Andrew has provided zero cooperation 833 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:40,360 If Prince Andrew was already feeling the heat imagine how he felt when Galeen was found hiding 834 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:47,960 At eight thirty this morning federal agents zeroed in on this new Hampshire house where they arrested Galeen 835 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,040 Maxwell 836 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:56,200 People speculated that Galeen had tapes that you know Jeffrey Epstein had made 837 01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:01,880 That she was going to use and was her get out of jail free card Andrew was to be terrified 838 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:10,360 A yellow at U.S. star bus drove past Buckingham Palace in a move designed to press the Prince to 839 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,360 help authorities investigate Jeffrey Epstein 840 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:20,120 If Prince Andrew was truly innocent he should have been stepping forward and telling the truth to 841 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,720 the U.S. attorneys and the prosecutors because he was an integral witness 842 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,280 So if he was innocent he should have talked 843 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,560 But he didn't and for Genefild her lawsuit 844 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,400 New legal travel for Britain's Prince Andrew 845 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,400 Virginia Roberts 2 free is now suing the son of Queen Elizabeth 846 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,000 Uncalling BS on this because that's what it is 847 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,640 Virginia was determined and knows a heatback 848 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,120 I won't stop fighting I will never be silenced 849 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,680 Until these people are brought to justice 850 01:10:53,960 --> 01:11:00,520 It's a testament to Virginia's strength that over the year she has been consistent with her story 851 01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:08,280 And yet at the same time you see an incredible inconsistency by Prince Andrew 852 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:15,160 I think she'd been goaded for so long that she was like rights. I'll sue him so 853 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:23,080 Meanwhile Prince Andrew was determined to avoid this lawsuit 854 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,360 They couldn't serve the papers because he was hiding up about tomorrow 855 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:35,080 Prince Andrew claimed of visits about moral was just a normal visit 856 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,320 But during that time his first grandchild was born 857 01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:45,880 Back to an in London he did not leave the Queen's estate to see his first grandchild 858 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:51,160 He seemed to think that if he refused to accept the paperwork that would be good enough 859 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:59,720 But this evening at a virtual hearing of this New York courthouse a judge will be told that Mr. 860 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:06,040 Ju free's legal team did serve the necessary papers on the royal and the clock should now be ticking 861 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,800 Then he came out with some ludicrous statement 862 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,720 Well, I'm going to go to court. He obviously wasn't listening to anybody 863 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:22,200 It was a bit like a hair running into the headlights not knowing which way to run 864 01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:31,000 Prince Andrew hired incredibly expensive lawyers to defend Virginia's lawsuit 865 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:37,560 They lodged all kinds of attacks against her complaint that were filed things such as the 866 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:42,760 Statutal amitations the fact that she wasn't a resident because she had moved to Australia 867 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:47,960 The fact Prince Andrew was a foreign dignitarian could not be sued because of his status 868 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:56,600 But the judge was having none of it. He said no, you know this case is going to happen 869 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:02,920 Prince Andrew has failed in his bid to get a civil case dismissed by US judge 870 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:08,760 Prince Andrew will you cooperate with always in America? The palace ultimately saw this was an 871 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,840 Absolute unmitigated disaster 872 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,520 There was no way that they could come back from that 873 01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:19,480 Met that point they had to distance themselves from Prince Andrew 874 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:38,120 The Queen loves her son and she has very much supported him by being seen with him 875 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:45,640 But she's also aware of the public feeling against him 876 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:55,160 After the news night interview the Queen saw that Prince Andrew had the potential to damage the 877 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:55,960 institution 878 01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:04,120 To her the institution of honour King is more important than safeguarding some of the stupid things that 879 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:10,200 So she took the decision to effectively fire him 880 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:21,080 Bucking in palace has announced that Prince Andrew is returning his royal and military titles to the Queen 881 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:30,520 She decided to strip Andrew up all his appointments and fire him from front-line 882 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:38,760 World duties is no longer a functioning member of the public royal family and will no longer be referred to as his royal 883 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:46,520 Highness royal commentators call the decision damage control given everything that has happened since Prince Andrew appeared on television 884 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,920 The Queen had little choice 885 01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:54,520 That's very difficult for for any mother to do but she saw the need to do it 886 01:14:54,600 --> 01:15:00,840 Because at the end of the day the buck stopped his home and it's the same thing with Virginia Roberts 887 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:05,000 Jiffrey there was nobody going to let him appear in court 888 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:09,400 Prince Andrew and Virginia Jiffrey have reached an out-of-court settlement 889 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:16,760 The sum of which is not being disclosed a clear sign that a disgraced royal wants to put this case and the controversy behind him 890 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,400 I 891 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:24,520 Think Prince Andrew must have been in pieces because he's always gotten his own way 892 01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:31,240 I must have been a very hard pill to swallow not just settling but how it was he going to settle 893 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,880 Because it didn't have the money 894 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,880 I also had some figures who were battled about 895 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:37,560 10 million dollars 896 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,960 15 million dollars 20 million dollars 897 01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:46,200 We don't know and they were reports that said that part of the bill was covered by the Queen herself 898 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:52,600 It was obviously substantial but it does beg the question doesn't it? I mean he's claimed it's not over 899 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,800 But why are you paying somebody you don't know? 900 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,840 Andrew refuses to accept today that he's done 901 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:12,840 I mean he really believes that he can come back because as a Prince that is the son of the Queen and everything always has really gone his way 902 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:14,600 He's mother still loves him 903 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,400 But does he's only brother love him? 904 01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,320 You know, I'll head as can I assure you on your 905 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:21,320 Brothers position 906 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:22,520 Pins Andrew 907 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,040 Please, I'll be here if you align 908 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:24,680 I understand his role 909 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,040 Very nice to see you, okay 910 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:26,760 Thank you 911 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,040 The question is what happens when Prince Charles takes over 912 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:35,000 Or Prince William who I know and I've heard has no time for this at all 913 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,600 It's a big dilemma for the monarchy 914 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:53,640 What to do to stash frankly a very healthy 62 year old man who lives a stone strove from Windsor Castle and doesn't want to go anywhere 915 01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,640 He can't work he can't represent the royal family 916 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,320 He's not been found guilty of any crime 917 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,000 But he's been sentenced by the court of public opinion 918 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:13,320 And the court of a public opinion is important because they are the people who decide whether the monarchy is retained or not 919 01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,600 He's out in the cold 920 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,320 It's important to remember that Prince Andrew is not a victim 921 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,280 I think he would like us to think he's a victim 922 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:30,840 But he was a very active participant in his own demise and not only did he make bad choices 923 01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:34,280 But morally questionable choices 924 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,800 And only he is to blame for his behavior 925 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,560 I think he's a victim 926 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,560 I don't know if you've heard of this 927 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,760 I think this is a key moment for the victims 928 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:58,760 Virginia Roberts, Chip Fry, Prince Andrews, a accuser 929 01:18:06,440 --> 01:18:08,440 Today was a towering day for justice 930 01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:14,120 If his one person is an entire soldier story who has the information 931 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,640 It could terrify Andrew is going 932 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:23,320 I think any of the co-conspirators that have been involved in this trafficking ring have to be very nervous right now 933 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:31,400 Glenn will appeal this case and we are confident that she will prevail on appeal 934 01:18:31,480 --> 01:18:46,680 I don't think that Glenn wants to spend the rest of her life in prison so some wealthy men can get away with it 935 01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:53,960 I think that anyone who is involved with Jeffrey Ups team which includes Prince Andrew 936 01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,920 Should be nervous about going back while talking 937 01:18:57,480 --> 01:19:02,120 She is really a person that holds all the secrets 938 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,920 This really isn't the end of the story