1 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,600 I'm very happy and we're helping you guys and Bill Ryan. 2 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,400 And we're going to be doing what we call a future talk. 3 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:46,800 It's basically sort of a round-table discussion in which we kind of battle around ideas. 4 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:52,400 Certainly you're going to be the focal point and we want to really hear from you on 5 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,480 whatever subjects kind of you get sparked by in the course of conversation. 6 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,480 No problem. 7 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,040 And then we'll just kind of run with it and see how it goes. 8 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:07,400 Something that I would like to say is that I think we get more emails and have done over the 9 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,160 three years that we've been going, asking us to interview you and wondering if there's 10 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,440 some weird reason why we haven't. 11 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,800 There's never going together. 12 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:16,800 But here we are. 13 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,800 It's all synchronistic in the end. 14 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:24,680 And so we're here in Sedona and you're here and it was great that we were able to connect 15 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,680 with you. 16 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,680 Great. 17 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:33,960 So where we want to go with this is we have whistleblowers and on curious, have you got 18 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:39,160 your own sort of secret sources that have been giving you information through the years? 19 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,480 No. 20 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:49,000 What happened to me is I had an extraordinary experience or series of experiences in the early 21 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,000 1990s. 22 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:56,240 I was a television presenter and a national spokesman with British Green Party. 23 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:06,680 And suddenly I felt over 1989 that there was a presence in the room whenever I was alone. 24 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,360 And it became more and more tangible as 1989 unfolded. 25 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:14,880 It was bizarre really because the Green Party and Britain had a their biggest electoral 26 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,760 year in 1989 at a European elections. 27 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:23,640 And I was going through this while whenever I was in a room alive and I would tell him 28 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:32,160 something there was this presence and eventually it got so powerful towards the end of 29 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:38,280 1989 that I was sitting on the side of a bed in a hotel called the Kensington Hill 30 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,000 in London just down from the BBC and they called us. 31 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,680 And I said to this apparently empty room, look if there's something there would you please 32 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,480 contact me because you'll drive me out the wall. 33 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:55,480 That two weeks later it must have been I'm with my son and he was a little boy there and 34 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,480 he's a singer somewhere right now in mid-20s. 35 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:59,480 See that? 36 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,400 Yeah, this is a gas and garrison. 37 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,200 We were playing football and we were going to go down to the town and get some lunch. 38 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,000 I lived on the C-Scibe resort and played the honor white England. 39 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,280 And as we got down towards this greasy joke, if somebody some railway workers stopped me 40 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,200 and started talking about football because I was on the television to talk about sports 41 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,200 and stuff. 42 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,680 And then after this conversation is finished I saw that garroth wasn't there. 43 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,880 I knew he would be at the news shop just down next to us. 44 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:32,720 So I walked in and he was reading the steam train books because he liked steam train 45 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:38,600 and said to me and I said to him come on, come on guys we're going to get some lunch and 46 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,120 as I turned my feet wouldn't move. 47 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,760 Now this is a guy who's not been into any of this stuff. 48 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,280 He's a television presenter and National Spokesman with a green party, a journalist basically. 49 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:54,520 My feet wouldn't move and I heard whilst I really avoid but a very strong thought 50 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,640 formed past room in mind which didn't seem attached to me why would I think it. 51 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,080 And it said go on look at the books on the far side. 52 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:07,640 So I went over and in among the romantic novels was this book with a woman's face on the 53 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,560 front and I picked it up because it was so different to the rest. 54 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,360 Turned it over and saw the word psychic. 55 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:20,920 So I read this book in 24 hours and I wrote sort of went seeer and what I told 56 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,600 it was I had arthritis which I have and maybe a hands on healing would help us told 57 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,520 it not the real reason I went which was which he picked out but the heck this presence 58 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,520 is I've been feeling for nearly a year. 59 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:38,640 Well actually a four year by then and went to the first couple of times and it was sort 60 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,160 of four times and she did dance on healing and we had a chat part of the dimensions 61 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,880 and stuff all made sense to me because I'd always rejected religion and always rejected 62 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,600 her the scientific view of reality I just hadn't focused on what's okay so what's 63 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,320 the alternative. 64 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:57,880 And then the third time I went I'm lying there on this medical type bench thing and I 65 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:03,000 felt like a spider's web on my face which really took me back because I had read in her 66 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:09,720 book that when other dimensions or whatever spirits or whatever you want to use I try 67 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,400 to lock into you sometimes feel like a spider's web on your face we're funny enough. 68 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,880 I never had before and I never had since but at that moment seriously powerful real tangible. 69 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,440 So I'm going oh my goodness me what's going on she's kind of doing it doing this but 70 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:28,680 I mean laughing he and I never said a word to her and then suddenly she launches her head 71 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:35,440 back and goes my god I've got close my eyes for this one this is powerful and she sees 72 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:42,800 this figure in a mind and she says this figure is thought where she called it is asked 73 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,760 to be the passive information to you and taking to account you know I'm a television 74 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:54,760 presenter presented the sport and the news at the time and suddenly she starts saying that 75 00:05:54,760 --> 00:06:05,400 this this entity or this projection of consciousness was saying that I was going to go 76 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:12,240 out in a world stage eventually and reveal great secrets that there was a shadow across 77 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,280 the world that had to be lifted that there was going to be a spiritual revolution in my 78 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:20,440 lifetime because of a vibrational change. 79 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:26,520 That's why the first book I wrote was called Truth Vibrations after that vibrational change 80 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:32,440 and that one line was one man cannot change the world but one man can communicate the message 81 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,440 that which changed the world. 82 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:40,920 I would write five books in three years and I'm thinking I know nothing about this stuff 83 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,800 five books in three years you must be having a laugh you know and this is all new to me. 84 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,760 I wrote five books in three years to the month and I didn't realise that done it until 85 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:54,360 I realised it was five and then went back it was five books to the month of three years 86 00:06:54,360 --> 00:07:00,360 from that time and I went back in other time and the next time and there was some more 87 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:10,520 so I left and waited something felt right about it even though my mind's going, what? 88 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:19,560 Within weeks the BBC had decided that we're going to renew my contract even though I was 89 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:25,640 the youngest one in there the part when I was in by a mile presenter and it would seem that 90 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:31,640 I would have had a lifetime working lifetime future there when I look back at that thought 91 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:40,280 my emotional chakra starts vibrating wildly the thought of being in the media all my life 92 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:50,040 oh my god I want to look back nightmare anyway so now I'm out of work but I feel I have to go 93 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:55,560 with this and fortunately I've always lived below my income because I have a very you know I'm 94 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,800 minimalist me I'd rather I'd rather have the money to go to India than a big house than the 95 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:07,160 mortgage and anyway so I had enough money to keep me going for a year and then it all started 96 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:23,080 this synchronistic almost daily this daily journey through a maze and when I started out 97 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:28,760 it was a thick maze I had no idea what this was all about just felt I had to go with it 98 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:34,040 I didn't even know why I had to go with it I just got to go with this and what's happened is 99 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:43,000 it's like some force has been opening and closing doors so I go down this road in a maze and 100 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:49,400 not this one and so coming around to you know answering a question directly 101 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:58,520 I just follow and have a follow now for nearly 20 years this pulsing this urging this knowing 102 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:09,960 that passes through me so I will I edit my life on the basis of that will you go here 103 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:17,640 don't feel to would you go here yeah I feel I'll be there and what has happened as a result of just doing that 104 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:26,280 is I walked into people experiences information books documents 105 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:33,240 which has taken me when I look back on a very specific journey I've just cried before it's like 106 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:39,800 you're trying to put a jigsaw puzzle together and some force is handing you the pieces 107 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:46,360 we've had almost almost in the right order that you can encompass them in the picture 108 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,560 most easily and so 109 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,600 um first of all in the early years of the 90s and through to about 110 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:03,400 1996 all the synchronicity was about the five-centre level of this conspiracy 111 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:09,960 banking scams families connecting same people behind this and behind that and behind that 112 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:18,040 who's behind the drug networks and all that stuff banking families and engineered wars 113 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,440 what was really behind the second world war the first world war and what's this and that what's this 114 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,600 this network that that is the the guiding force of this 115 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,280 conspiracy all that stuff and then from about 96 when I came to America to talk about this with 116 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:39,960 first time and lots of people turned up I talked to eight people in Chicago I remember that 117 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:46,360 it was a real that was what you might call an expeditionary three months because I was talking 118 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:52,120 to myself most of the time but I was picking up information as I passed around and what started 119 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:59,480 that from 96 onwards was the next stage of this which is these families that I'd learned so 120 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:08,280 much about in the years before were actually connected to some non-human race or entities 121 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:14,840 which for which they were basically fronting up an agenda within this five-centre reality that's 122 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:22,120 when I went into the whole reptilian stuff and of course the synchronicity of my life and 123 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:28,760 my journey personal journey and my communication information fundamentally connected because part of my 124 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:37,000 massive part of my life is as I've been learning more and more you know my personal journey has been 125 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:43,000 clearing out my own body computer programming so that you know I can access higher and higher levels 126 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,240 of consciousness of course every everyone's got the opportunity to do that many people are doing it now 127 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,280 so I've had great challenges in my life at the same time as doing the information to break this up and 128 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:57,640 one of the break there's these programs up and one of the biggest ones happened in 1991 when I 129 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,040 started talking about what was happening to me and of course I was a well-known television presenter 130 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:09,320 in Britain so there was monumental ridicule of a kind that you know few people can actually have 131 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:15,640 experienced I mean I would walk down the street and be laughed out by most of the people in the street 132 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:21,080 for like two or three years a comedian only had to say my name no joke necessarily get a laugh 133 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:27,400 but can we go back to that because I'd love to get you know to sort of drill down and find out 134 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:33,400 what how did you actually get into the reptilian situation? Well yeah what what I was just going to say 135 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:39,240 the reason I bring this up is about the synchronicity of my life is because from 96 when I 136 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:47,160 started to go into the reptilian stuff because I'd been through that mass ridicule in the early 1990s 137 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,760 it had cleared me out of the key thing that most people live in the prison the most people live 138 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:03,800 in which is the fear of what other people think therefore to me coming out from the late 90s 139 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:09,400 about the reptilian stuff was not a problem because the level of ridicule could not be great 140 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:16,040 and then what is before but why did you have ridicule before because the only ridicule I knew was about 141 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:26,360 the reptilian oh I mean I tell you a challenge another another story that leads into that 142 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:36,200 towards the end of 1991 I had finished the book through five brushes and it went off to 143 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:45,480 the publisher to be published in the spring of 1999 I had this overwhelming feeling again the 144 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:56,680 urge the inputs to go to Peru and I had no idea why I just had to go to Peru so I get on a plane 145 00:13:56,680 --> 00:14:02,680 to Peru not knowing why I'm going there and I landed in Lima airport and from the moment I landed 146 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:10,040 in Macy's Synchronicity things happened but eventually I had this prudent guy chat was taking me around 147 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:17,160 and fully enough the first time I met that guy was in Cusco in the old Inca region and I went 148 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:23,400 round to his house because we were going off traveling around Peru from that day and he's lying on 149 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:30,760 his back and asleep and I walked in because the door was open and he looked at me and he said 150 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:40,200 not alone but Joveny dreams last night I said well I did I said I had a real big clear 151 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:46,680 technical adrenal that one of these two front teeth fell out coming in which one and he said 152 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,920 if you found a grandfather still alive I said well my father is here I said why he's well 153 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,000 that's usually symbolic of your father or your grandfather Taihe I thought this guy's going to be a 154 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:00,680 bunch of laughs the next three weeks and when I next got a call out of Peru my father 155 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:08,200 died back in England. Oh my god. Anyway I go around with this guy and where it all leads which kind 156 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:16,040 of the fundamental it leads to the reason behind the ridicule was eventually put his in a hotel 157 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:24,360 put a call the Seew Stani in Puno it's kind of southern Peru not far from Lake Tiniqaka and the Seew 158 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:30,120 Stani hotel was named after an Inca ruins site but now an hour and a half strife away so this 159 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,880 pictures this place all over the hotel the ruins and I said I said to the guy I want to go there 160 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:40,200 so we go out and I think he did a deal get some money out because I go out and like a little 161 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,640 tourist bus with windows on the side but the tourist bus driver and the guy in me nobody else 162 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,120 we got to this place and it's in the middle of nowhere and basically when you look to round 163 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:58,680 it was encircled by mountains in the distance mine and I go there the only people there are a 164 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:03,240 couple of children with longness for tourist photographs but they weren't a tourist so I walk around 165 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:08,040 for a bath and I was very nice it's only hill the goon on three sides and I go back to the 166 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:14,360 the car and it was nice but it didn't match the urge I had to go there so I get in the 167 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:21,400 the van thing and we start to drive away and I'm looking out the window day dreaming and I look 168 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:26,920 at I see this mound to my right but I must know more than three minutes down the road and as I look 169 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,440 at the mound all I can hear in my head is come to me come to me come to me come to me come to me 170 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,320 what because this is I'm really new to this stuff I mean what's going on in my life 171 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,520 so I said to the guy can you stop the van because the bus thing I'm going up the the mound 172 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,560 so I went up the mound I couldn't see it from the road but when I got to the top there was a 173 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:53,080 circle of standing stones about waist high this stones were obviously been there a very very long time 174 00:16:53,720 --> 00:17:01,000 so I walk into the middle of this circle and I'm looking across to see you staniin across 175 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,200 the distant mountains and it's a it's a piercing hot Peruvian day no clouds aren't cloud and 176 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:13,800 sky very much like this one today and I walked the centre of this circle and suddenly my 177 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:20,120 feco again like they did in the new shop but only seriously more powerful this like the like 178 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:25,800 magnets pulling my feet to the ground and I think oh Crike I recognize that here we go 179 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,320 and then I felt like a drill going in the top of my head and threw my body through my 180 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:36,840 feet to the ground and another one coming the other way and then my arms go out at 45 degrees 181 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:43,000 like that I never made a decision to do it and of course you at your your older arms out there 182 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,360 before you know a minute starts to eight well my shoulders do anyway I was a best part of an hour 183 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,360 let's be 45 minutes without my arms like that and when it was over my shoulders were 184 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:57,720 agitate but when it was going on nothing and what then started to happen is this energy coming through 185 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:07,560 me this is February 1991 got more and more powerful my body started to shake with it and that I had 186 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:17,720 two very powerful thought forms as past through my head just like in the new shop the first one said 187 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:24,280 they'll be talking about this 100 years from now and I'm thinking talking about what and the other 188 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:30,520 one was it will be over when you feel the rain I've just described what it was like it will be 189 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:36,040 over when you feel the rain I mean you're having a laugh mate so what happened there for 190 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,200 an next 45 minutes because time disappeared it wasn't a time I whipped it out later 191 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:47,560 was that this energy just kept coming through me and I kept going in and out of if you like a 192 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,400 awareness consciousness like driving a car and you go cranky away the last two miles go 193 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,800 one of these times when I came back to kind of awareness I noticed that over the distant mountains 194 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:03,320 there was a light gray mist and I kind of thought I watched it and he got darker and darker very quickly 195 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:10,040 and I realized it was pouring the rain over the distant mountains and over the next little while 196 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:15,800 I went along it was I watched this storm come out of the mountains and people whether 197 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,200 people talk about it you know a weatherfront well this was a straight line the cloud was a straight 198 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:25,000 line I've described it many times as like drawing the drawing the curtains across the sky 199 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:31,400 and this thing's coming towards me and I see got closer the sun's gone been covered 200 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,480 and all the clouds are building and I'm seeing faces in the clouds and making sense to me 201 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:41,880 but I saw faces in the clouds and then it's a wall of rain and watching it coming towards me 202 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,720 and by this time I'm hanging on you know with this thing coming through this energy coming through 203 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:54,120 me and eventually it hits me to rinse your rain and everything stopped and that's when I 204 00:19:54,120 --> 00:20:02,360 staggered forward and my shoulders were agony and all the rest of it and many other things happened 205 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:11,640 but when I came back to England after that as I said earlier my my book was published 206 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:17,800 in the early part of 1991 which is you know the matter which is very short time after this 207 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:29,720 experience and when I look back now it was like you know if you've got a dam and it's 208 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:37,560 holding water back well the water is calm right because that's it's natural state in that situation 209 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:49,400 if you like but when the dam bursts before a new balance is found after the dam bursts or 210 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:55,560 hell breaks loose the water right as it's trying to go from one state to another yeah when I look 211 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:06,440 back what happened to me on that mound it was like the waters of my mind bursting 212 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:14,840 and for three months I didn't know what planet I was on right in the middle of this my book came 213 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:22,440 out and I went on the biggest chat show live chat show in Britain at the time it's called the 214 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:32,520 work in show in a complete bloody days about what was happening to me and it had all been in the 215 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:39,640 national papers that basically I got crazy and I was sitting in this chair in the chat show 216 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:47,880 and the audience were laughing within a minute two minutes and they basically laughed for 217 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,200 I think I must have been on about 15 7 6 7 10 minutes and from that moment on 218 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,000 because I was talking about what was happening to me except I didn't understand what was happening 219 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:07,160 and what that did was triggered the most extraordinary levels of ridicule and 220 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:15,640 it cleared me out of that fear of what other people think but I learned so much about 221 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:23,880 human behavior I remember because what you're supposed to do when you face that scared of ridicule 222 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,600 is is run and hide right and it's one of the means is used to control us oh yeah so what I 223 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:38,840 did is I went on a university speaking so and in front of all these students who had not come to listen 224 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,520 that come to laugh right my understanding is that what you had is a condolini experience you 225 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:50,200 relate to it like that or do you call it something else I don't care but have you investigated or 226 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,880 not talk to you no I mean I've talked to people about a condolini experience and maybe it was 227 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:05,320 see what what I what I do I kind of talk for myself is what is is you know one of the things that 228 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:11,560 was said to me by the psychic or through the psychic in 1991 all this started for me was 229 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,680 they're saying you will face enormous opposition but they will always be there to protect you 230 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:26,760 now I don't know who they are I don't I've hardly even thought about who they are because when 231 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:34,840 I leave this genetic space suit I will know who they are all I do is I go with my intuition and 232 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:41,480 what happened to me in 1991 with the great ridicule was as life so often does it gave me my 233 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,800 My greatest gift brilliant at disguises my worst nightmare because that's what it was at the time in the 234 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:53,240 experience of it so what actually happened to me is something transformed my 235 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,760 sense of perception and that's good enough for me I don't really what after know the detail of what happened 236 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,360 but condolini experience you could what a bit yeah and in the meantime it's got something to do with 237 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,000 temporary and steel second temporary and steel 238 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:15,640 tempering the steel yeah because as I keep coming back to my personal journey and what I'm doing 239 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:21,960 in terms of communicating information absolutely at one I was it was going to say what what 240 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,440 happened to be when I went out on that university speaking to her I was at a university in 241 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:36,360 nottingham and there were a thousand people there I would say 950 had come to laugh and I walked 242 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:44,280 out on the stage and it was literally the best part of 15 minutes before I could speak because it was just 243 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:54,760 abuse ridicule laughter plastic beer glasses thrown at the stage and I just stood there and 244 00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:03,320 waste for it to die down because it had to eventually and when it did I said you think I'm mentally 245 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:11,560 ill don't you and you know what it's like and I said so what just that say about you because you've 246 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:18,200 actually paid to come here to ridicule someone you believe is mentally ill I tell you what you 247 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,640 can you're a pindrop and you could you're a pindrop for the rest of the night and it's 248 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:32,280 to do what I do what I've done in terms of talking about some really bizarre things and you know 249 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,960 my name is still only has to be mentioned in a national newspaper and Britain and it's like 250 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:42,360 complete ridicule whatever I'm saying a little bit but not very much I mean I stood for election 251 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:50,520 in a you know parliamentary bi-election in was it July last year to July 2008 not to get elected 252 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,240 and you're I wouldn't get any votes in wanting to vote so I mean I must be the first 253 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,440 parliamentary candidate ever to put out a leaflet to everyone in the constituency saying I don't want 254 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,080 you votes just to brief attention goodness me I didn't want to want to get involved in that but 255 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:10,840 but again it was a great experience and I learned a lot from it but the the media coverage was 256 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,480 I did a media presentation for the national press which about about about 50 minutes 257 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,400 PowerPoint pictures and stuff in which I talked about the five cents level because anything else 258 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:27,000 I mean that blew their bloody minds anything else reptilians I think cranky and what they did is they just went away 259 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:34,440 and and just abused me and abused it and ridiculed me and ironically the one it did the most 260 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:40,600 abuse one of the things I said was coming actually about six weeks later was actually the 261 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,960 front page story and he's so newspaper I mean it's bizarre these people have total cognitive 262 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:52,680 dissonance so that they can't put these two things together so it's still there but it doesn't matter 263 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:59,400 you know and you know we we're in a situation where thanks to the internet we can bypass these 264 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:07,080 sad people that work with their concrete minds in the mainstream media and you don't have to reach 265 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:13,000 everybody just enough people it's a hundred hundred yeah I tell you what I feel more and more you know 266 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,880 I mean look I can feel it when I speak anyone speaks it's a vibrational communication 267 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,480 there's silence between you and me this silence when you speak to me until my brains decoded it 268 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:32,200 what it is it's vibrational communication and I feel very strongly that it's not just 269 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:41,160 the people that hear this information it's the fact that this information circulating if you do 270 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:48,280 an interview for a radio station a hundred thousand people might listen to it but that broadcast 271 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:56,440 frequency carrying that information is passing through the the ether if you like 272 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:05,480 and is there to be potentially picked up by people don't even listen to the radio interview 273 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:12,200 and it touches the monovibration or level and you know I think that's right you're talking about the 274 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:19,560 better flag that in essence yeah it's a multiplied and that's actually a very good way to put it 275 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:24,600 that it actually you know on a subliminal level because we exist on some humanity do love 276 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:31,400 exactly that it's like waves it's actually it's hitting them and you know there's a line that I've 277 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:37,160 been quoting lately that says you know we learn by what osmosis just as much as by you know word 278 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:43,800 it actually permeates just by osmosis yeah it's your skin into our brain 279 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:53,560 exactly exactly we receive a transmitters that's what we are but people think that the only 280 00:28:53,560 --> 00:29:00,040 form of communication is voice to hear telephone story I was in 2003 I was in the rainforest 281 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,440 Brazil and I took this ayahuasca psychoactive drugs the only time we were in taking a psychoactive 282 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,640 drug-blooded did dogs fantastic and a lot of people had bad experience but this female voice 283 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:15,000 talked to me as loud as mine is now for five hours about how reality physical reality is an illusion 284 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,920 absolutely riveting stuff very very funny I mean my feet were in the air a couple of times it was 285 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:27,320 so funny what what was coming out and one of the things that as the voice was telling me things 286 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:34,920 I saw pictures of obviously we've been projected and there was one where I was I walked out on a stage 287 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,800 and there was an audience I was just saw the front of the audience here and this voice said 288 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:49,640 you only speak words to keep the mind happy basically to keep the deaf brain happy 289 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,920 and as this voice was saying from this I saw two two women in the front row of this 290 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,120 scene that had been projected to me and I'd walked out in the front of the stage and I just stood there 291 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:07,880 and just said nothing silence and after a while there's one more macrosse of you 292 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:13,160 not just the other one like that and basically what's he doing and the voice I was like 293 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,480 so funny when it was said because it came out nowhere the voice said you only speak 294 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,320 because if you did not the audience would be asking when the fuck is he going to start 295 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:36,840 and that actually carries a profound kind of understanding because the real communication 296 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:43,800 between all of us is unspoken and this is very good news and this is what you know I would 297 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:51,960 impress upon people the more you speak your truth even if people are not listening you're you're 298 00:30:51,960 --> 00:31:00,280 changing or offering a vibrational field which other people can tune into you know when I look 299 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:09,000 at the speed at which people are awakening it's not just because of information on the internet 300 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,800 not just because of information in my books or someone else's books there's there's something 301 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:21,400 massive going on vibrationaly which fits totally with what that what I got through that 302 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,840 psychic in 1990 which was there is a spiritual revolution coming in it's second form of vibrational 303 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:34,600 change I can see it in 1990 no evidence now I mean please it's you can see it I'd people come 304 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:45,080 up to me in LA when I spoke there I'm recently saying I was absolutely a part of the system 305 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:53,320 until three months ago I read one of your books and suddenly everything I'm just totally different now 306 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,800 it's not just because they read one of my books there's and there's there's a if you start 307 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:08,360 tuning into this vibrational change then bang things can happen real real quick and I personally I find 308 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:14,600 it a such a good thing that for my experience I went through all that that nightmare experience 309 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:21,800 the early 1990s when I started to awake not knowing what the hell was happening because now you 310 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:31,400 can explain to people that if if if if you have an energetic construct here which was you 311 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,880 believing everything was real and the system was serving you and this is the cutting edge of human 312 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:42,680 evolution and all this nonsense that vibrational field is vibrating your state of being out 313 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:49,800 and it will draw to you people places ways of life experiences etc locations which fit 314 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,720 your inner self because the outer self is a projection of the inner self so when you 315 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,560 try to start a transform this is what happened to me but I mean that's to everybody 316 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:11,160 to another state of being which then draws to you a very different group of people places 317 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:18,600 locations ways of life etc there is a transition between the two it doesn't go one gone 318 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:27,320 air you go this one has to break down as this one emerges it's a process of 319 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,800 one losing power over your reality another one gaining power can happen very quickly 320 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,800 but it's not like instant actually the great metaphor for what's going in the macro 321 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:47,400 exactly exactly and in the United States in particular but certainly England you know all over 322 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:53,880 I mean what we can see it here I mean what's happening here with the economic you know downturn 323 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,160 and with people losing their houses you know their shelves if you will change their lives 324 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:06,040 but I couldn't agree more and the more you resist I think the more destruction is going to happen 325 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,560 the less you resist the quicker you know the destructive faces over and you can actually 326 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:17,960 start climbing back up in your case you were quite extraordinary in the sense that you had this 327 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:25,320 radical change in your life almost you know you went from you know black to white almost 328 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,120 there was almost no downtime for you it sounds like although you said for three months three months 329 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:36,840 was the big downturn but that's extraordinarily quick you know especially the 90s today 330 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,840 I think this is happening to people and they are going through a quicker transition and in some 331 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:49,560 ways there's also a reason for that because you and people like you have made it easier for those 332 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:59,320 that are following now to go through the changes I hope so I hope so I mean that's that's I get 333 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,440 such satisfaction when when when when people say that they were helped in understanding what was going on 334 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,040 and you're absolutely right I mean you know I talk about this a lot now because 335 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:17,640 between that the old self and all that it projects in what we call the physical experience 336 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:23,800 and the new self which projects something else there is a parent chaos relationships breakdown 337 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,160 you lose job you can lose your house and all this stuff and and if you live that 338 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:37,000 as a physical I am a human body experience then it's very very challenging if you start if you 339 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,200 see look this is where I want to go and you realize that this is the transition to get there 340 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,560 then you can encompass the unpleasant experiences as just that an experience 341 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:55,640 which you're going through to get to somewhere and quite right the collective there's 342 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,800 so many levels of this you know so people say to me sometimes you know tell me what's going on 343 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:06,840 I say well first of all I'm not the guru but if you want to know what I think is going on my 344 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,400 question is what level of what's going on do you want to talk about because there's so many ways to 345 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:18,920 observe the same thing so on one level these illuminati bloodlines have crashed the globally 346 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,720 economic system because they want to have that as a problem to which they can offer a solution which 347 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:31,480 is a fiercely or well-earned fashion centralized economic system but on another level I was 348 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,760 suggest well beyond their level of comprehension because they're stuck in their own box otherwise 349 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:46,120 they wouldn't be doing what they're doing we are witnessing the transition from the prison society 350 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:54,680 to the the paradise society if you like or the freedom society and to to go from the system 351 00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:02,360 we've had which is based on control and in position to the system that we're heading towards which 352 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:11,240 is what this vibrational change is all about this has got to go and it's now going and if people 353 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:15,880 and it's easy to say this it's easy to say that it's apparently tried things when you you know 354 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:22,600 you've got a knock on your door saying you're leaving a house today but if we can hold this 355 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:31,480 level of seeing it it makes it easier we're going through this this process where it's all 356 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:39,160 breaking down and if we can encompass it as what it is which is a collective experience to get to where 357 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:48,600 we'd like to go a world of freedom, a world of kindness, a world of love, a world of freedom to 358 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:57,320 express your uniqueness rather than be imprisoned in your tiny version and false identity of what 359 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:05,480 you are told you are then it's much easier than if you seek to cling to the wreckage of the 360 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:15,080 dying system and hold it together. In some ways you were something of a pioneer where you had to 361 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:22,760 go along. I imagine that you must have have a much more support now from everywhere just in the 362 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:28,120 way that Kerry is describing than you did when you really felt that you were alone going down the 363 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:33,000 wreckage. Yeah it's funny, don't you? Because I mean there's so many things that I'll talk about 364 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:39,720 you just you've just brought up because I think it's very, very important. I won't say I'm a loner 365 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:47,000 but my connection has always been to that which is driving the in-opening doors and pushing 366 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:54,760 in this direction and I just follow that. Although I was alone in so many ways when it all happened 367 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:02,440 I still had that connection and I still have that connection now and people are sort of very kind 368 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:12,280 and very supportive but I still basically just operate my own little bubble and just go my 369 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,240 own way. I don't deal with organisations, I don't connect with other researchers or anything like 370 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:25,560 I just follow this impulse but it is easier because there's more people that are open to what you're 371 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:33,480 saying but you know what you just brought up is very, very important and you know for me if not 372 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:41,880 the greatest human disease of all because everything comes out of it I guess is insecurity. Ironically 373 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:48,840 it was at the height of mass national ridicule that I found my security because there's that 374 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,240 line in that song I think was in the 60s, freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose. 375 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,640 Inside the insecurity do you do not get it from anywhere else? Yeah I mean you look at my situation 376 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:07,080 we go to that line from that song in the early 1990s, early mid-90s. I was being ridiculed by a nation 377 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:18,440 so I had nothing left to lose and that's when I found freedom. The freedom to break out of the 378 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:24,040 prisons of fearing what other people think and basically I was laugh, laugh but this is me. 379 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:30,680 You know I saw a great car sticker. I remember a great car sticker in California I saw 380 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,080 would be in California and it said you laugh at me because I'm different I laugh at you because you're 381 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:44,120 all the same and I don't laugh at people because they're all the same but it is ironic when 382 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:50,120 this heard mentality is kind of focusing on one person as it wasn't written at that time and 383 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:59,640 you look at them and you think you laugh at me, my God and so this economic thing that's going and 384 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:05,960 you know I've been describing it recently and as like a controlled demolition of a building you see 385 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:11,240 the charges go off and then there's a bizarre split second before the building goes and then it 386 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:19,240 collapses well in the economic terms of this crash we are in that bizarre split second now. I've been 387 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,920 describing the economic situation we're in recently it's like a controlled demolition where 388 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,560 you see the charges go off and you know there's a problem but then there's a bizarre split second 389 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:35,160 before the building actually crashes and I would say that we are in and getting very very closer to 390 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:40,600 the edge off by the day that bizarre split second we've seen nothing yet I mean this is a crash that 391 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:47,640 no one alive today will have seen compared with the 1930s but because of the way the world is 392 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,800 and there's more people and the nature of a ownership and all the rest of it it's got having 393 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:57,160 it's got a bigger fuel soap with gardens and then depend means of doing anything at all with 394 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,040 much more of interconnect that's the idea you're absolutely right absolutely and and so 395 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:10,280 we now face this very situation you're talking about where we need to reevaluate our 396 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:18,760 it would have been a good idea to do it anyway our symbols of success now because insecurity 397 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:24,600 is rampant in people and society both individually collectively and on the level of 398 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,520 governments and the media or the rest of it are constantly getting people of fuel insecure 399 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:35,000 most people do not get their sense of who they are from in here they get it from what they think 400 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,720 is out there so you're sitting there absolutely and therefore if you are going to 401 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:48,520 attract to you the recognition you want that you're an okay person to feed your insecurity 402 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,800 you have to succeed out there on the basis of the symbols of success that out there 403 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,880 recognises the success and of course through the media and the indoctrination from greater 404 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:04,040 the grave it's more money bigger house bigger car fame or the stuff titles and all this business 405 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:11,720 he who dies with the most toys wins yeah so what you've got is the insecurity itself is 406 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:22,440 to kind of feed some acknowledgement that to lessen its insecurity it's chasing these symbols 407 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:28,760 of success that society has decided is successful and we forget other symbols of success are my 408 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:36,040 happy how my fulfilled you know do I live in a you know as a society a kind 409 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:42,440 loving society that I'd like to live in and all this goes by the board because the other thing about 410 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:50,680 needing to succeed on this manufactured basis to feed this is that you then have to compete 411 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,760 with all the other people that are trying to succeed in the same way to feed their insecurity 412 00:43:55,720 --> 00:44:02,440 and that that creates this doggy dog top of the greasy pole society where everyone's walking 413 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,280 I over everyone else when I'm everyone but vast numbers of people are walking over everyone else 414 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:12,200 so that they're the ones on the top of the pile that get their insecurity fed most profoundly 415 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:19,160 with the symbols of success and this is why this insecurity is why you find some of the most 416 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,720 insecure people you'll ever meet in places like Hollywood and in the entertainment industry 417 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,880 because they're insecurity is such and they're not all like it's very secure people who just play 418 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,320 music and like to act but there's a lot of insecure people because they need that extra 419 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:42,440 adulation to feed their insecurity and so if we can move our point of observation 420 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:48,120 from I am this body that I see in the mirror in the morning I am David Ikeim Charlie Smith 421 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:58,360 of Jones whatever to I am consciousness having an experience then your values of what is successful 422 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:05,480 change because you point of observation of everything changes and it's the mind working through the 423 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:13,960 body that deals in status and symbols of success that are how high is your pile of trinkets 424 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:20,040 whereas consciousness it doesn't deal in trinkets it knows they're illusory 425 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,520 and of course when you deal in trinkets like that is the trinkets controlling you you're not 426 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:34,440 controlling the trinkets and so for me the whole foundation both of coming through this 427 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:43,320 crash to something much better as a result of it and the whole transformation in general 428 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:50,360 is moving out of mind and into what I call consciousness which is that beyond this virtual 429 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:57,240 reality game beyond this biological computer we call the body and you can start to see the difference 430 00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:06,920 because mind deals in structure it deals in hierarchy and it deals in a partner sees everything as a 431 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:16,280 and polarization yeah and if that's what you are if that's the way you're seeing life 432 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,640 in terms of hierarchical structures and a partner's and competition and all this stuff you're in 433 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,760 mind ironically the religion is in mind and all their mind constructs their religions that's 434 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:34,200 where there rules of regulations that's another massive red light hey mind and that's rules and 435 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:43,080 laws and limitations and limitation sense of limitation so if we can change our point of observation 436 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:54,360 so we cease to see ourselves vitally and the world we think we're living in in those terms and 437 00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:01,720 look at it from a point of view of consciousness said earlier that this this force that's been 438 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:09,320 kind of pushing me through my last 20 years took me through synchronous experiences to understand 439 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:14,360 a five-cent level of the conspiracy then moved into the interdimensional connection and the 440 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:21,320 reptilian connection to these families and since 2003 it's taken me into what I I know is that 441 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:29,080 by far the most important and that is understanding the nature of reality because you know how can you 442 00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:39,720 get a grasp of your own life and take any kind of control of your own experience if you 443 00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:46,680 don't know who you are where you are or the nature of the world you're living in and this information 444 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:55,960 for me is by far the most important because it moves the point of experience from in this world 445 00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:02,520 to observing this world or a mixture of the two and that when if you're in this world and 446 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:08,680 you're of this world then what's coming is going to be a bloody nightmare if you have become the 447 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:14,760 observer as well as the experience by becoming more conscious then it's much easier because that's 448 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:21,400 not you that's your experience which you're observing and this is something that George Green 449 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,960 says that he was in contact with the play arts and that they were they helped you know right 450 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:33,640 of book through him that says that exact thing that you need to stay in the observer mode 451 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:41,400 exactly and observe what's going on and not get caught up in the experience in such a way that 452 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:47,080 it that actually as you say you become of this world instead of in it but not of it 453 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:53,640 yeah and what I found as I'm talking more and more about the reality we live in 454 00:48:54,840 --> 00:49:05,400 is it does if you like to take the edge off the fear of what's happening because it is funny really 455 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:14,360 I think that when we find out everything that's going on and the nature of what we're experiencing 456 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,520 and what's behind it I think we're going to laugh for weeks I do I think we're going to laugh for 457 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:27,400 weeks and we thought it was that that oh my god and the whole thrust of the maze and opening 458 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:33,720 closing doors since 1993 for me and it's getting more and more deep and deeper and deeper is 459 00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:38,040 what is reality who are we what we're doing here and how do we interact with it and it's very 460 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:46,040 clear to me that this is a virtual reality universe of enormous advancement compared with what we 461 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:52,120 perceive to be virtual reality simulations in this world and you know this is not just 462 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:59,720 supposition this is provable scientific fact I mean it's so good that we think it's real yeah you know 463 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:08,360 the five senses just decode vibrational information into electrical signals send it to the brain 464 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:15,000 and the brain decodes it into this construct that we think is outside there but it's actually inside 465 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:21,880 us the only place that's what exists is so called solid world a three dimensional world is out there 466 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:27,160 is out there we think but actually it doesn't exist out there out there is just vibrational fields 467 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:35,400 exists in here as we construct it and even the brain is a decoded construct as well it's 468 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:41,640 it's on an energetic level that we do the decoding really and this is very very important 469 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:49,720 because what the manipulators do because they've hoarded this basic knowledge and passed it 470 00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:54,440 over at the highest level of the secret society network and sucked it out of public circulation 471 00:50:55,160 --> 00:51:00,920 they know that if we look out there for answers believing that there is an out there 472 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:06,840 etc and loosely he loses a rejection is going on in here then we're never going to change anything 473 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:13,080 yeah never going to change anything and once you go ah there's no out there so where's it coming 474 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:18,840 from oh it's coming from in here so this is where I have to change oh there you go it's what I call 475 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,000 and this is what most people do because of the suppression of this understanding 476 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,320 is they stand in the movie theater and they shout at the screen because they don't like the movie 477 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,040 and people are saying you're crazy you're never going to change the movie shout at the screen 478 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,760 go about the projection room change the real if you don't like the movie and the the projection 479 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:46,920 is deep within us you know the some research I saw recently says that about only 5% of 480 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,720 behavior and decisions that we make or with the conscious mind I would actually I would say that's 481 00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:59,960 not correct personally I'd say a hundred percent of what happens in this three-dimensional 482 00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:07,400 reality Sony in our head actually is a projection and the conscious mind he's actually not the decision 483 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:18,760 at all it's the observer and experience of it and it literally is the same principle 484 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:25,480 as a movie projector which comes from within within what we call the subconscious where all 485 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:30,600 those patterns are there which we're being influenced by and are affecting our projection 486 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:36,600 and our reading of it and it comes out of the subconscious and by the time it hits the screen 487 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:42,680 in here symbolically on the movie theater it's a done deal this is where the change has to take 488 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:49,240 place within us to change the projection which is our conscious mind's experience and people are so 489 00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:53,880 caught in the conscious mind as that's the only level I mean they hear talk about subconscious 490 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:59,080 and all that stuff but really it's I thought it well how come that experiments have shown that 491 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:05,960 the electrical changes and muscular changes to make an action happen 492 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:13,480 happen as split second before the conscious mind is decided to do it it's because they're playing 493 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:19,960 it out and so that this talk about we must go within there's no age must go within 494 00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:28,680 and there's much about the new age I would challenge but this basic theme is absolutely right I would say 495 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:35,640 and what the whole conspiracy is trying to do is get us to look out there let's go and protest 496 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,560 let's go and do this let's go and do that and you protest and you have million people on the streets 497 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,800 of London protesting against war and what happens the war goes on and then they start another bugger 498 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,280 and it's a small dialectic yeah we need to change the projection 499 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:55,960 and this is actually something that we've come around to and we're you know we're aware 500 00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:01,160 that consciousness is where the change has to happen and then consciousness is actually 501 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:10,600 also where you have to apply the change in your vision of reality can't actually just stop there 502 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:19,160 it's actually has to permeate everything so it needs to be embodied in this body but we have 503 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:24,680 to talk about who's in control so if consciousness is in control and I can use this 504 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:32,840 to do for example what we're doing here which can be used to further change and push the change 505 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:38,680 and help the change then then this is a good thing but it's not enough in other words just to go 506 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:46,360 in like Buddha and simply sit in your mind and do nothing because doing nothing is also not the answer 507 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:52,360 we actually came here with a purpose a game is being played out here and as you if you stay in 508 00:54:53,160 --> 00:55:01,400 consciousness and you're able to change your inner self and then mirror it outside and facilitate 509 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:08,440 which is what you're doing obviously and obviously you embody this in your life and what we've been 510 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:15,560 doing with Camelot is we're also talking about you can't actually demonstrate in the streets and get 511 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:23,240 real results because it's really you know action reaction exactly that I agree but 512 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:34,200 but you can join minds and meditate there are places for action that are actually really proactive 513 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:40,520 and can change the world in a positive way so it's kind of it's it's very interesting you know 514 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:48,280 dilemma for people that they have to actually embody the change that they see and live it 515 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:56,520 that's you know you cannot be a contradiction to what's inside it doesn't work there has to be 516 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:04,200 through line well I would put it I would put it this way I would say that as I mentioned a few minutes ago 517 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:13,160 that this reality this holographic illusory physical construct which we put together in our heads 518 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:18,760 and it's like a holographic internet I call it that is one hundred percent a projection and 519 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:27,720 but a time it hits the screen it's a done deal in our experience but a lot of people I 520 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:37,560 come across and heard they do think that if you just sit and meditate or just go within 521 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:45,000 then as all you need to do but this is a projection and it's a projection from somewhere 522 00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:54,840 so this projection is an open book of the inner eyes individually and collectively 523 00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:06,840 so what we play out in this experience says everything about our state of being and you can 524 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:14,840 say go within and you can use it as an excuse to not go without and you can go within 525 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:20,680 the inner eyes I go within and meditate okay so what are you what's happening in the projection 526 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:28,760 as a result of what you're doing the only projection that you're affecting is you sit and 527 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,720 cross-legged in the corner what else is changing yes of course you can change things by 528 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:41,640 brushing it to an extent but you know what is happening in the world is saying what's happening 529 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:52,120 in us and we kind of miss that connection so if we're doing nothing to make a contribution 530 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:59,640 to the kind of world we like to live in then it in the physical world then that says something 531 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:10,600 about the state of us within that we're not doing that and there's I see so many excuses 532 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:18,200 being made by people who have become to a certain extent aware of some of what's going on 533 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:23,960 so that they can justify to themselves why they're doing nothing people said to me you don't tell 534 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,840 us what to do and I think well actually I talked about becoming conscious and all that stuff I think 535 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:35,400 you know that's a start but it ain't for me to tell you what to do and if you think that that I 536 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,280 have to tell you what to do then you're not listening because this is about taking power back 537 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:47,640 to the point where we project rather than looking out here at a done deal 538 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:53,000 absolutely there's an active paradox here isn't it because that's not the whole story otherwise 539 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,960 you'd be sitting in the corner smiling and not talking to us here and not working as high as you do 540 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:04,440 and not talking to people to to help the process of waking them up so that they can then join you 541 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:10,600 in this understanding which we share with you also it's important in a sense to pretend that all 542 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:15,400 this is real because this is the platform from which we can wake in ourselves up and rejoin 543 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:21,000 consciousness again and so it's a paradox it goes on the left levels what you say is true and this 544 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:26,600 all is an illusion and it all doesn't matter but it's all important enough for us to be talking about it 545 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,520 what I was saying is your presentation where you're talking about consciousness and the 546 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:38,440 mind and the problems were staying just in mind because there's a lot of brilliant people out there 547 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:47,240 coming to brilliant conclusions and yet they can't live it see the manifestation doesn't go anywhere 548 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:56,600 yet becomes an intellectual academic kind of point of observation rather than consciousness 549 00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00:10,040 which is something that just is and the difference that I now increasingly making is between 550 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:16,760 mind and consciousness and I would go further and say that we talk about my mind your mind 551 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:23,640 his mind her mind I don't see it like that I say I talk about the mind there is a the mind is a 552 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:30,280 construct of the virtual reality universe which allows us consciousness to interconnect 553 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:39,080 with this virtual reality it's like a conduit and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it what 554 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:46,440 so ever if it serves the experience of consciousness and serves our ability to interact with this 555 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:53,880 virtual reality universe what has happened and I would strongly suggest it's been manipulated to 556 01:00:53,880 --> 01:01:02,440 happen not least by these families and other levels of the manipulation is we have been manipulated 557 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:10,120 into a false identity which is identifying who we are with mind which operates immediately directly 558 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:16,600 through the body and cause itself David Ikethel Jones Charlie Smith looks in the mirror and thinks 559 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:24,440 that's so it is and basically you know this is a biological computer it's not a computer that 560 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:30,840 just reacts to the way it's programmed to react to data input it has the ability just they call 561 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,240 them living computers biological computers they try to try and try to build them now it's a different 562 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:40,760 past the wing it has the ability to assess information and make decisions on it in other words to 563 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:47,720 to to quite a large extent it has the ability to think and what happens is if we get caught in mind 564 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:57,400 and self identity of that reflection in the mirror is me then and not just my experience then 565 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:03,480 mind starts to govern our sense of reality and mind is about division, a partner, hierarchy rules, 566 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:13,320 regulations, laws, limitation and you know you can have someone in the new age arena who talks 567 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:18,760 about spirituality talks about other dimensions which are other virtually reality games so it's 568 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:27,800 just other levels but blatantly is stuck in mind and the values of mind I mean I hear new 569 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:33,320 age people talk about the great white brotherhood and the hierarchy of the angels and the stuff 570 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:41,160 that's mind talking, consciousness doesn't do hierarchy it just is all possibility 571 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:53,240 all all that is and so the same mind construct the mind can can in trap a new ageer as it 572 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:58,280 entraps in another part of the mind a Wall Street banker it's just another religion it's another 573 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:03,320 yeah that's the thing you know I was I was talking to I was talking on into the yesterday 574 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:11,880 we've gotten to some interesting areas he asked me about religion well religion and a 575 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:19,000 political party and the new age and all these things that we don't call religions institutions 576 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:27,880 that they're all the same construct and because consciousness just is consciousness doesn't 577 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:32,040 think consciousness knows that's why consciousness is silent when we access it 578 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,280 because he's got nothing to work out the mind is where the chatter comes from because he's constantly 579 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:41,160 trying to work things out what about what about you say what what did she say about me 580 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:51,960 meaning in me silence consciousness and so to hold you in mind and this conspiracy is about 581 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:56,040 holding the population in mind because then they got you because that's their stadium mind they're 582 01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:03,480 stuck in mind if they were conscious they wouldn't do what they do it so holders in mind they 583 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:10,680 have to sell as something to rigidly believe in so religions brilliant example of rigid belief 584 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:17,880 and what is it once you rigidly believe something you then call it a name what are you you 585 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:23,320 don't say unconsciousness how many people say hello go you unconsciousness oh so am I not 586 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:32,120 to meet you no no what we are is what we do on a journalist working in factory what are you 587 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:39,160 I'm a Hindu I'm a Christian now these are mind constructs these are mind prisons that limit our 588 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,320 sense of self so once you have a religious belief then you give it a name and I have a simple 589 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:49,880 philosophy about all this if you if you can tell me what you believe and give it a name 590 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:56,200 you're in your in a prison because everything just is we all just are it's the force with no 591 01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:03,560 name I call it consciousness and so you create religion and then after the name then comes the rules 592 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:10,600 and regulations this is how the construct goes of what you have to conform to if you are going to 593 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:16,520 allow be allowed to call yourself whatever name that's been come up with you're not a Christian if you 594 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:23,960 believe that and all this stuff then you look at political parties you have a group of people they 595 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:30,600 get together and they they want to do something politically so they give what they're doing a name 596 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:38,520 Democrats Republicans Labor Party conservative party whatever so there's the name now come the rules 597 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:45,640 and regulations that decide if you can call yourself one of you can't believe that and be a conservative 598 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:52,520 you can't believe that and be a liberal it's the same construct wherever you look and and then the 599 01:05:52,760 --> 01:06:02,040 the belief system as researchers shown rigid beliefs the neurons fire off in a certain 600 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:09,960 network and sequence in line with the belief because what the brain's doing is then 601 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:18,680 filtering decoding reality in circumstance through the belief system which manifests in the brain as 602 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:25,400 the way the neurons fire on and suddenly instead of being free thinking or even better free knowing 603 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:32,600 conscious you are operating in a tiny little box and that box is basically the way you're 604 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:39,320 not basically it is the way your brain decodes reality and so once you're into belief 605 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,920 and rigid belief then they gotcha and that's why they want a cellular rigid beliefs but there's 606 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:50,040 an active paradox here isn't that because that's not the whole story otherwise you'd be sitting 607 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:55,320 in the corner smiling and not talking to us here and not working as hard as you do and not talking to 608 01:06:55,320 --> 01:07:02,120 people to to help the process of waking them up so that they can then join you in this understanding 609 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:08,200 which we share with you also it's important in a sense to pretend that all this is real because 610 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:13,640 this is the platform from which we can wake in ourselves up and rejoin consciousness again and so 611 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:18,040 it's a paradox it goes on at birth levels what you say is true and this all is in the 612 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:23,080 illusion and it all doesn't matter but it's all important enough for us to be talking about it 613 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:31,480 it matters imagine it matches Jim in the sense that do we want to experience a reality that's 614 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:41,480 very very unpleasant and controlling and limiting and frightening and stressful or do we want to 615 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:48,520 experience a reality that is loving kind where no one goes hungry in a world of plenty where 616 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:54,920 there is no walk as no one would even consider the idea that it was a possibility or an option 617 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,080 that's the choice we're making we're always consciousness and when we leave the body 618 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:05,800 will become much more at least much more aware of everything that we are now so we're always 619 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:11,880 conscious we're all eternal consciousness but the question is what kind of experience do we want here 620 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:17,880 exactly you know what that's the choice what kind of we call it what kind of game do you want to play yeah 621 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:25,320 we have a chance now because we are consciousness to change the rules of the game to make it 622 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:32,840 something different than it is changed inside but let's also agree because that's what's happening 623 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:39,560 that's what a consciousness revolution has to be about it's not good enough for you David Ik 624 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:46,760 to have got it it's not good enough for us to have got it what we need is for everyone to get it 625 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:52,760 that's in this game here on this plane because that's what it's really about in other words 626 01:08:52,760 --> 01:09:00,120 consciousness and this is where it gets into what is consciousness it's love and what is love 627 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:08,760 it's actually the awareness of all of us hmm well I would say everything is consciousness 628 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:19,080 but mind is consciousness but it's a much denser expression of consciousness that's 629 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:25,640 why these have been in terms of limitation and as people become conscious it can 630 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:32,120 to use the term of a friend of mine South Africa consciousness can conch entice mind and bring 631 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:39,240 its awareness out of the level that it currently perceives reality but I do think it's important 632 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:45,240 that we if we're going to play this game successfully that we understand where the game is being played 633 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:50,120 it's not being played out there see what what what what what the five senses are doing like I said earlier 634 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:56,120 is that they're decoding vibrational information turning into electric signals and the brain then 635 01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:00,280 constructs this apparent reality out there which is actually only in here so the primaryality is 636 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:05,160 vibrational that's the primaryality that's where the change has to take place because as 637 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:13,000 as the change takes place there the five senses decode different vibrational states in electrical 638 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:17,240 signals that one right story told by Michael Talbot and the holographic universe yeah and I read 639 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:21,400 that page over and over again when I first saw that book in the late 1980s this is the story 640 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:27,480 about the stage hypnotist who hypnotized the father to believe that his father was in that 641 01:10:27,480 --> 01:10:32,680 his daughter was invisible and then he was able to read an inscription on the watch held behind 642 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:40,040 his her her body because for him it was no longer there and reality had changed it was physically 643 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:45,240 different in his mind well this is the whole point you see that for a hypnotist to put a watch 644 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:50,040 behind someone's back and someone the other side of a reader that is perceived to be impossible 645 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,560 but it's only impossible if you believe this world to be solid and real and out there 646 01:10:54,360 --> 01:11:00,520 the reason it could happen is because the the primaryality this I can't emphasize this more 647 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:06,680 more the primaryality that is playing out here is vibrational that has to change or this can't 648 01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:20,760 change and so if the hypnotist as he did implanted the program into the guy's brain not to decode 649 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:28,680 the vibrational level the prime level of his daughter through this system into a holographic 650 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:36,200 so-called physical form that we see then he would decode all the other vibrational fields in 651 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:44,520 the room into people and walls and furniture but because it's like a computer being fire walled 652 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,720 off he doesn't decode the daughter's prime state your prime state i prime state the prime state 653 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:55,960 everything this vibration the vibrational level into the holographic apparently out there reality 654 01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:03,560 and so she doesn't exist in his head as a holographic form i.e supposedly physical so he can't 655 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:08,440 see her because she's not there you can see what's behind her it's there for he can read a watch 656 01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:12,760 even though she's standing there to everyone else in the room they can see her why because 657 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:17,560 they brain has not been programmed not to read that energy field into a holographic form now 658 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:24,280 just as a quick aside how many things collectively are we not reading the other to be read 659 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:32,680 one of the things is there's more than five senses okay and the heart is you can't see it's not 660 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:38,680 just the mind it's actually the heart it's really the heart and the intelligence of the heart 661 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:46,440 that he could see through if he would only use that so it's it's more than we have in other 662 01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:53,240 words this these are tools for us our mind is a tool our heart is a tool but you can't stay up here 663 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:58,200 you've actually got to go through the heart to really see see what else to see with our eyes 664 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:06,040 that's actually that's a construct that's a sense of the mind we actually see with our heart 665 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:12,120 when anything else and through the heart and so what happens it's it's a union between the 666 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:17,960 mind and the heart high-creen that allows you to see and what you could put yourself in that man's 667 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:25,560 position and say how could the man see through the implant that was put into his brain first of all 668 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:34,760 what did he do he had to accept the magicians or you know implant to begin with so in the same way 669 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:41,000 we in society are accepting the implant whether it's television or whatever which is blocking 670 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:47,640 our real view of reality we're accepting it yeah I mean the thing is though that what the 671 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:53,080 but the hypnotist was doing was just programming the decoding mechanism yes and therefore he didn't 672 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:59,240 decode a vibrational field a his daughter into a holographic form therefore he didn't see her and I 673 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:07,800 completely agree that the heart has the potential to be a massive part of our reality 674 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:17,640 decoding our reality expression but we also have to appreciate that this conspiracy 675 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:23,880 while we see the George Bushes of the world and the Barricut Barmers and people like that and the 676 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:32,680 Kissing Ches the real level of this conspiracy where the world is being controlled is on a 677 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:37,640 vibrational level that's why I talk about these reptilians that are doing this and others too 678 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:43,400 operating outside this reality they operate in the level of the vibrational level that's where 679 01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:49,880 that's where the manipulation's going and we need to be you know kind to ourselves as well in 680 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:58,040 understanding the the challenges that we've faced and not least trying to understand a world that 681 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:04,360 is being manipulated into a state or has been manipulated into a state which is to stop us 682 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:13,160 understanding the world and so you know we look at television and the manipulation of television 683 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:18,920 and newspapers and stuff but that what we see a newspaper or we see a television program 684 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:27,400 we're just seeing the decoded version of a vibrational field those newspapers and those 685 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:32,760 television programs and news programs all the rest of it they are actually quote physical 686 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:38,040 holographic representations of the primary reality which is vibrational field it's at that level 687 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:44,680 that manipulation we call subliminal that manipulation we call lying to the people and all the 688 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:52,200 rest of it actually happens and and so basically what they've done is pull a vibrational 689 01:15:52,280 --> 01:16:08,360 veil over us and if you can make it powerful enough and dancing off you focus people's sense of 690 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:14,520 perception into such a narrow area that they disconnect from an awareness and therefore a deep 691 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:21,400 effect in their perception of consciousness you're isolating their point of observation 692 01:16:21,480 --> 01:16:26,920 into mind and that's happening on a vibrational level which then plays out in what we call 693 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:34,680 the physical world so it's it's it's what's vital this is why this information is so important 694 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:46,920 not just I tell you what I've found nothing represents literally and symbolically the 695 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:56,040 prison than the left brain which deals in a partners language hierarchy structure and all this stuff 696 01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:07,880 and the information about the five cents conspiracy I've found one of its great values 697 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:17,960 is that it operates in a left brain realm when you're explaining how this and that and the other 698 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:22,600 is connected to the same people and they control that this is what they're doing these the techniques they 699 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:28,440 use that's left brain information and when people say oh you shouldn't put out their information 700 01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:36,520 is negative they don't understand but we're looking at a multi-level situation therefore we have 701 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:42,360 to deal with it on a multi-level basis that means covering all basis not just sitting across the 702 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:50,680 leg on a mountain of course now what I found over the years is that once the left brain 703 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:56,360 because symbolically I see you know you've got the left brain which is what I'm talking about you 704 01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:01,560 got the right brain which is a much more out there connection and and sees everything in unity 705 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:06,360 the creative which and then you've got the bridge the corpus colossum which ideally should be 706 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:11,160 sharing information so you've got a balance you're in this world and and and or it you know 707 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:17,560 but what the conspiracy does again it's all under vibrational level that it goes in and then 708 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:22,200 it plays out here is they put symbolically soldiers on the on the door to the left brain 709 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:29,800 this is why to progress within this society one of the most effective ways is to keep passing 710 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:35,800 exams and passing exams and getting degrees and all this stuff because that's an exam is here's 711 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:40,680 some left brain information now given me back on a on a paper telling me what I've told you to 712 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:45,000 believe okay you've done it very well you you've got a first class degree a first class 713 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:50,680 indoctrination often now what this conspiracy information on a five-centre level does 714 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:58,120 it talked to the left brain in the language of the left brain understands and I've seen it over the 715 01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:04,200 time in my personal experience and of course other people would have seen it it starts to make the left 716 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:14,120 brain change its sense of reality and once it starts to change that it starts to think well hold 717 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:22,120 on a second if everything I thought about the world here was was wrong and it's not like that at all 718 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:28,600 what the heck else is in this world is not like it I thought it was and I've seen this 719 01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:35,960 where people once that left brain starts this process of withdrawing from a sense of it knows 720 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:43,240 what's going on to I never knew then it starts to move and as it starts to move it literally starts 721 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:50,120 to open to other possibility and then this movement between the hemispheres can start to happen 722 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:56,280 and I've seen people who would have lacked in my face about reality and all that stuff 723 01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:04,680 who now encompass it because they went through the process of of credible names, dates, places 724 01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:11,240 five cents information explaining logically why the world is not like they thought it was on a 725 01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:16,760 five-centre level everything starts to move then so you know it's important that 726 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:25,640 the deprogramming of people's manipulated sense of reality happens on multi levels not just kind of 727 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:31,800 you know we must become spiritual we must go we must go within you know I mean people people say 728 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:37,880 oh Alex Jones he just frightens people and all that but hold on a second you know just just 729 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:45,400 on a second you know what's negative it's not information it's ignorance that's what's negative 730 01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:50,120 ignorance and if you if you want to be ignorant and therefore a manipulator's party trick 731 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:54,200 then you go ahead and if you want to look at the information the five-centre information that I put 732 01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:59,560 out and Alex puts out and people like that and all many others and say no that you've it's 733 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:05,240 right and well the fact that you find it frightening instead of empowering because you now understand 734 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,800 the game better and therefore you have more power to do something about it then that is not a statement 735 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,720 about those put in the information that's a statement about the way you're receiving it exactly 736 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:18,120 something that we like very much was something that George Green said to us in our interview 737 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:23,720 with a staple last year and he used the little analogy said listen if your car is on the railroad 738 01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:29,640 track and there's a train coming down and you don't know that then and I don't tell you then 739 01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:35,640 it's a shame on me for not telling you and shame on you for not knowing and this is just a nice little 740 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:41,800 way of encapsulating what what you're saying yeah I have an analogy I use very similar to that I 741 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:49,000 talk about the not the hurricane coming what what are you calling the the twist is the tornado 742 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:58,440 tornado here and the tornado is coming but you put your head in a bucket of sand because you don't 743 01:21:58,440 --> 01:22:09,320 want to face the fact that tornado is coming now you can hide from that for a while but you're still 744 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:17,000 and the tornado is still coming and your bum is still in the air and it's going to get 745 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:25,640 smack very shortly by a tornado if you lift your head from the sand face the situation that you're in 746 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:34,760 there's a tornado coming now you you have taken power back to yourself by saying okay I see the situation 747 01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:43,240 I can take a voting action for my benefit of course this is why it's so important and you know 748 01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:50,680 you know I hear I hear people you might call into age who talk about letting go of fear 749 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:55,880 and taking a power back and come to this workshop and we'll show you how to do it and then 750 01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,800 they say oh you mustn't talk about this conspiracy it's too negative and these are going to 751 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:04,600 what happened to let go of fear and all this stuff you know and what are these are the dice for 752 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:09,240 the angel Gabriel is going to come and say that's in the world that doesn't work either every level 753 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:15,080 it seems to me everybody's system every mind construct seems to have a version of the cavalry coming 754 01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:20,760 over the arise you know okay here's the cavalry okay here's the cavalry here's the cavalry there's the 755 01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:29,320 cavalry and we need to understand that you'd know because if we if we give our power away to 756 01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:36,040 other people where are those other people actually where do they actually stand physically as we give 757 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:42,600 their power away to them out there symbolically so what we do is giving our power away into the 758 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:48,840 illusion and and then wondering why nothing ever changes the whole conspiracy or the foundation 759 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,520 of the conspiracy is supposed to wait six billion people to give their power away every day and the 760 01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,280 power used to control is the power these people say thank you very much thank you very much thank you 761 01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:01,560 very much take it back our so cards comes down because that's what it is it's how so cards and we're 762 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:06,680 holding it together in here we're constructing the house of cards in here great news we can bring it down 763 01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:13,000 in here right but but but I have to say we're not only going to do that with the mind that's that's 764 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,680 what's really important here no the mind plays it man plays it out we're going to do it by 765 01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:21,880 becoming conscious that's the point absolutely but also left brain right length brain I want to 766 01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:28,040 address that a little bit because it's not enough to reconstruct reality based on saying 767 01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:33,800 getting to a place where you don't know and then you're willing to open to a new construction of 768 01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:39,320 reality such that you're going to play the game different but you're still lodged in the left 769 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:47,000 you must bring in the holistic view the view that encompasses the heart that encompasses the female 770 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:54,440 which is the yin yang side of things because what we have here it has been playing out for centuries 771 01:24:54,440 --> 01:25:00,600 is is a really yang view of reality especially on the western side of well kind of world 772 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:08,760 I just say what I have to say is it's more than just reconstructing the left brain in a new way 773 01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:14,680 to play the game better because that's actually cheating yourself on another level so that 774 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:21,800 you need is you need to grow and open the door between the left and the right brain such that 775 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:28,920 there is a flow and that means you're talking about the heart you're talking about senses that are 776 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:36,280 beyond the five and so you have to what you had to do in your own exploration was you never would have 777 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:41,800 gotten the information you wanted to get by staying in the left brain it actually as you said 778 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:47,560 you had physical sensations they locked your feet they gave you information that came out of nowhere 779 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:54,840 you couldn't make logical sense of it it was logical out the window so left brain's gone you know 780 01:25:54,840 --> 01:26:02,680 it's even words are useless when you get into that place so it's you must actually it's like 781 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:10,120 traveling in a sense you must actually travel to a different place what you do is you follow 782 01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:16,600 your intuition right you're you're over on your I guess they call it the right side of the brain 783 01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:23,320 that's where you are that's where intuition resides so you've opened that door there is a flow 784 01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:32,520 and that's that's really what has to happen well yeah I mean I am I take my intuition 785 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:41,000 which has guided me and has led me to information also it's like a filter I have a 786 01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:47,480 vibrational sensation when something is not true and something is true and another one when 787 01:26:47,480 --> 01:26:53,400 it's maybe partly true that's a holistic yeah but I still the left brain's still important 788 01:26:53,400 --> 01:27:00,440 on bringing those concepts down into a language and communication that will that that people 789 01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:05,160 can assimilate that that are stuck in the left brain because if you don't talk in logical 790 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:12,360 from their perspective logical um uh in terms that the left brain can understand which is 791 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:19,160 which is under lock and key then that that that key will never open and that that's also why 792 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:25,960 what you just said that you will accept on rare occasions when I'm talking in a very 793 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:32,280 small time scale or doing an interview on a specific subject I will never talk about the five 794 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:38,600 sense conspiracy without the nature of reality and the influence of the influence of consciousness 795 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:45,000 and the all the rest of it another point you make is about the heart I agree the heart is 796 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:50,920 absolutely at the heart of this and is much more powerful than the brain and much more powerful 797 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:56,760 than the mind because it is connected I would say that what's connected through the consciousness 798 01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:02,200 and this conspiracy also because you know it's it's a simple thing in the deep shadows 799 01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:09,720 behind the people in dark suits are a force whatever you want to call it that understands how 800 01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:15,960 this works so they've structured a society that is to close down all the channels to consciousness 801 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:20,840 to isolate us in mind because then we're playing in their stadium and one of the key things 802 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:26,040 that is to close the heart to close the heart and if you want to open the heart and you want to 803 01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:32,680 become conscious it's what I say my talks then what we need to do is to ask the question what 804 01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:37,160 would consciousness do in this point at this point would consciousness when we face with this 805 01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:42,680 set of circumstances say well what's the best outcome for me no consciousness will say what is right 806 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:51,480 just fair thing in this situation for me to do and if we when we face with choices all through the 807 01:28:51,480 --> 01:28:58,840 day ask that question in this circumstance what would consciousness do and act upon it crucially 808 01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:05,960 then everything changes and our life changes why because we are now starting to resonate with 809 01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:15,240 consciousness because we're operating in its realm which is by doing what we say consciousness 810 01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:21,320 would do in these circumstances we are vibrationally locking into that level and therefore 811 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:26,760 becoming more and more influenced by consciousness when we say well yeah well I never see that but I mean 812 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:32,680 what is not good for me if I do what's right in the situation I must do what's right for me that's 813 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:39,800 mine so that's locking you into mine you know this thing about becoming conscious I see it 814 01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:45,880 so often all over the world I mean I was in India just before Christmas and you know good 815 01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:52,840 luck to them but they make it sound so complicated and you know a lot of the complication I see this 816 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:58,200 with new age people that stand on stages and do workshops not all of them of course but I see it 817 01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:05,240 with gurus in India and stuff like that not all of them again but vast numbers on the complexity 818 01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:11,160 says two things one they don't really understand it because if you can if you really understand something 819 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:15,560 you can put it in simple language and this is why you get academia repeating jargon and you say 820 01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:20,360 lot I'm an idiot mate okay I never passed an exam in my life I left school 15 to be a professional 821 01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:24,520 soccer player you can have to put it in language I can understand they can't because they don't 822 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:30,920 really understand it as repeating jargon and the other side of the complexity of becoming conscious is 823 01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:37,960 if you can make it sound complex then you've taken power over your potential audience that's a big 824 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:45,000 thing because you have to come through me and the more I more I make it sound complex the more 825 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,920 power I have therefore the more you must come to me and the longer you must stay with me and 826 01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:55,640 by the way you know but check in the in the box essentially and yet it is so simple this is the 827 01:30:55,640 --> 01:31:03,400 point I would make people talk about we must become conscious it's it's a line we are conscious that 828 01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:10,200 is our natural state what's happened is barriers that we have been manipulated and we you know 829 01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:18,280 must take responsibility for it too big time a put in place have symbolically created a concrete 830 01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:26,280 shell around our natural state and this concrete shell are all the things that control people 831 01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:33,640 fear and stress and conflict and seeking success and competition and all this stuff it's not that we 832 01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:40,840 have to become conscious we are conscious it's like breaking that shell and that shell is mind 833 01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:46,440 domination it's like the right language it's like the lie that's in language when people say 834 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:51,720 my spirit myself and I'm hungry it's like wait a minute this is the wrong way around here you know 835 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:59,800 I have a body and my body is hungry my body is tired and I am a spirit but language 836 01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:08,200 which is a product of the mind in the first place because we don't think how we don't talk how we think 837 01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:13,640 we think how we talk and language is one of the ways in which we're programmed to pass it away 838 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,640 massive yes George or well 839 01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:20,040 much of that in the past before programming the computer but what are words 840 01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:28,280 their vibrational fields so again even the words that programmers are actually coming in 841 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:34,680 at a vibrational level a waveform level and they're only decoded into language when they pass 842 01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:42,120 through the brain construct so everything goes gets in the place out here gets in at a vibrational 843 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,280 level that's what we need to get to that level of ourselves and clear ourselves out 844 01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:52,840 because that's where all the patterns are put in and I use this analogy in my talks that 845 01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,720 a ball it's natural place in a tank of water is on the top just floating away in that 846 01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:05,240 real state free going like if you want to put the ball in in a natural state in the tank you've 847 01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:10,040 got to put it on the on the bottom of the tank and you've got to hold it there you can't put it 848 01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,600 there in it will stay there because it's not its natural state it's not a state's 849 01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:17,480 going on the top and natural state is being conscious so what the manipulation has had to do 850 01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:24,280 is and this is this is says something about the true scale of who we are it has had to bomb 851 01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:33,880 bars with so many multi-level systems of control diversion and manufactured ignorance 852 01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:40,520 to symbolically hold the ball on the bottom and it hasn't succeeded with it. 853 01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:45,960 This is their mounting. These systems are controlled that's what the move towards 854 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:51,800 you know a fascist state and a world government is all about. I've I've actually heard an 855 01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:57,400 interview with you in which you talked about that fact the fact that you see the fact that we 856 01:33:57,480 --> 01:34:04,360 are if you send if you use your analogy which is a very good one. We are consciousness and as 857 01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:12,120 that ball we are moving as a group towards the surface of the water we're actually getting out of 858 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:18,600 their grasp. Right. Right. That happens they're intensifying their game to want to keep that ball 859 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:25,880 down and so that's why the stakes are rising on both sides. Couldn't agree more. And what's going 860 01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:32,920 to happen is look at the natural I mean even the metaphors perfect because what's going to happen 861 01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:41,320 ultimately the water and the ball are going to win. Okay there's no way that those forces as 862 01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:49,880 much as they intensify sometime somewhere that ball is going to get to the surface like it or not 863 01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:57,400 like ours if you know what's going to be interesting is if they actually start understanding 864 01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:03,560 on a deeper level then power and their power over because I've got the clue and I've got the key 865 01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:09,800 that's what the luminosity you know that's what they think. They think if you don't get it then 866 01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:15,880 you can we can hold you down you deserve to be held down that's actually there I'm sure you know 867 01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:22,440 this this is their rationale. So what happens is what happens when we because we're greater than 868 01:35:22,440 --> 01:35:28,840 their our body you know are the consciousness that we are is greater than what they are because they're 869 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:38,840 on limitation starts to win in their own mind you see and they start to let go because this is what's 870 01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:48,280 probably happening there have to be many members that have been under the thumb of this game 871 01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:54,120 and have joined and are being you know we're being padded on the head and given all the reinforcement 872 01:35:54,120 --> 01:36:00,360 necessary to keep them in the game what happens when they start to see the lights of speed and some 873 01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:07,560 of them I'm sure already are because there's nothing more fiercely compartmentalised in this whole 874 01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:15,560 control structure itself there's so many people within the control structure right down into mainstream 875 01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:22,280 society that are daily contributing to this gathering fascist global state who who have no idea 876 01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:27,560 of the true implications of it or as they go up higher and higher I've been misled about the nature 877 01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:33,960 of themselves reality and the force behind it. So the nature of the chaos and the destruction will 878 01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:42,840 actually work in the favor of releasing the ball because what happens is during chaos you can change 879 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:50,360 sides you see you can actually you know it's really hard to maintain control during the time of 880 01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:55,240 destruction. Yeah I agree you know what I would say is that the ball will get to the top of the water 881 01:36:55,320 --> 01:37:05,960 when the ball realizes it is the water and and the scale of the movement and the speed of movement 882 01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:11,720 of this conspiracy now as it puts in more and more surveillance more and more control more 883 01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:17,960 more centralisation of power etc. I've been saying for years now that is not about even 884 01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:27,560 gathering more power it is about defending the control that's already there because they understand 885 01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:36,200 I mean if I can go to a psychic in in England in 1990 to be told through this 886 01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:41,560 psychic that this vibrational change was coming and it was going to create a spiritual revolution 887 01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:47,800 and I mean are the other illuminati families not going to know that this spiritual 888 01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:53,800 changes vibrational alarm clock is coming and of course they are and they've known about it for 889 01:37:53,800 --> 01:38:03,240 a long time and so what we're looking at is a I mean you when you move the power from where 890 01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:11,480 control and we're going to give more power to we must impose more and more control to stop this 891 01:38:11,480 --> 01:38:19,720 happening that they're not in a if you like a proactive situation now as they push this or 892 01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:26,600 wedding and stay on they're in a defensive situation trying to keep the lid on human ignorance 893 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:32,440 as this vibrational change brings it to the surface and you know compared with consciousness 894 01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:40,040 this illuminati I mean they're flies on an elephant's back you know and they're going to get 895 01:38:41,480 --> 01:38:47,960 removed and you know I think it's not about winning the game it's not about losing the game 896 01:38:48,440 --> 01:38:53,320 it's about realizing the nature of the game and the fact that it's not about winning and losing 897 01:38:53,320 --> 01:39:00,280 it's just about experiencing and and as these pyramids of control certainly the lower levels first 898 01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:05,320 start getting picked off by this vibrational change and people start to see things differently 899 01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:10,680 you know as I've been saying for 20 years you know look at a pyramid you know the cap stones 900 01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:14,360 the place that the power no it's not the cap stones up there because the rest of the pyramids 901 01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,440 are in the bugger up there the rest of the pyramid moves away where's the cap stone going to do 902 01:39:18,440 --> 01:39:24,440 it's going to crash to the floor is nothing old in it up we're holding up the structure that is our own 903 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:32,520 control system and I just tell a story years ago you're in that which in Larry Grayson the 904 01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:39,320 comedian in his right and I knew Larry towards the end of his life he used to do big shows on the BBC 905 01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:47,720 and I was invited to his some his some memorial service at Cobb and Gardner and after he died 906 01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:53,000 there's another comedian in Britain called Roy Hud and he did this presentation 907 01:39:54,040 --> 01:40:02,360 to about Larry's life and he told this story and I sat there and I thought whoa that is that is so 908 01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:09,000 profound when applied to what we're talking about. Roy had said that Larry Grayson told in the story 909 01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:17,000 that in the the days of the music hall hyped the editor or the last vestiges of it. Larry was in an 910 01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:23,720 all-male show going around Britain and he was the woman in it because he's dressed up as a woman 911 01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:31,080 Larry and the final scene of the show that final part of the show was all the men ran on the stage 912 01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:35,880 dressed as sailors singing raw Britannia you know raw Britannia Britannia rules the waves and 913 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:42,680 all that stuff he not Britain I was a rule of it anyway so as this song's reaching its climax all these 914 01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:48,760 sailors climb on each other's backs and form a pyramid on the stage right and then Larry Grayson 915 01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:54,200 came on dressed as Britannia with the gown and the helmet and the sword and was manhandled up 916 01:40:54,200 --> 01:41:00,920 to the top of the pyramid of these men you know with the big finish with the sword and he said one night 917 01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:06,920 things seem to be going rather well he said until one of the sailors in the bottom left hand 918 01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:13,000 corner got a cough and the cough got worse and worse and worse until he couldn't stay at how 919 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:17,080 hold his place in the pyramid anymore and he's standing on the stage at the bottom of the pyramid 920 01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:23,480 this guy you know ethyl Jones and Charlie Smith and in the end he couldn't hold it anymore because 921 01:41:23,480 --> 01:41:30,120 the cough got too bad and he he had to step out the pyramid what happened was Larry Grayson at the 922 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:37,080 top symbolic of this illuminati ended up in the second row because the whole pyramid collapse 923 01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:43,800 because one little guy on the left hand bottom corner got a cough you know the pyramid power 924 01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:51,560 in one way is all roads from the base of the pyramid lead up to the point of the pyramid and that's how 925 01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:59,960 they control the thing I would like to connect up with this it's so interesting what you're saying 926 01:41:59,960 --> 01:42:08,040 and and we we passionately agree with you with your thesis here and one of the things which 927 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:16,280 I love about your work is that it's like in order to controls or a one good way to control 928 01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:21,320 somebody's delighted them and therefore if somebody you know if you're being lied to then someone 929 01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:27,960 is trying to control you these things are are intimately connected right and we are being 930 01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:36,440 convinced that this reality is all there is that these are just animated hunks of meat that last 931 01:42:36,440 --> 01:42:41,240 were three score years and ten and that's a lot and then and then and then either we're pushing 932 01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:46,200 up daisies or we're going to have to go to hell with another trap and another lie absolutely and 933 01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:52,440 meanwhile there's some fascinating things going on behind the scenes and as you must have known 934 01:42:52,440 --> 01:42:59,240 from from your own research and your own contact and your own conversations that you've got a magical 935 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:06,520 component to the controllers meant in the real definition of the word magic black magic ceremonies 936 01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:12,120 rituals sacrifices all kinds of things that you and I don't want to know about but actually 937 01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:16,680 this is part of the truth of the matter this is what they do they vote 938 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,960 Jesus they do strange things that the audience people didn't know about some 939 01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:23,880 amount of stuff about that in the late night and it's not pleasant to look at and it's real 940 01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:28,920 and then there's another aspect of this which is something that's been coming at us quite a 941 01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:37,160 lot from from black projects inside us who which is not the black magic but the black technology 942 01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:45,240 which was well stated by Richard Hogan who told us that he'd had a phone call from from an 943 01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:49,400 insider who said that they would rather lose an American city than give up their new physics 944 01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:57,160 and this new physics we were told by somebody who we met in Thailand in October 945 01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:01,720 we'd given him the pseudonym of Jake Simpson we know the guy very well he said that the 946 01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:06,760 say to black physics at the moment is meant I say black physics it's like secret physics 947 01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:12,600 as in black operations yeah those guys are not all evil people but they're on the inside 948 01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:18,040 and they're playing these games with all the resources and all the knowledge that is denied 949 01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:23,240 the public domain right 10,000 years ahead of public sector physics let's say 950 01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:26,600 accelerating away from public sector knowledge at the rate of a thousand years a year 951 01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:31,080 and I checked those figures with it that's a lot of zero it's 10,000 years ahead 952 01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:40,520 and he told us for instance that the technology exists to phase shift soldiers special forces 953 01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:46,040 soldiers so that they can walk through walls yeah which is quite you I've heard that you've heard 954 01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:52,200 that yeah yeah that's yeah it's an interesting corroboration these little stories pop up 955 01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:58,120 yeah here and there in different researchers and I think the thing is bill that the reason for the 956 01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:05,080 vast acceleration is there's a critical point where you understand reality and from that point 957 01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:11,080 the potential just absolutely saws where is because of the suppression of science in the 958 01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:17,720 public arena there nowhere near yet that line where where the potential saws so they've 959 01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:23,320 in the secret projects they're cross that line and therefore they're accelerating away at the rate 960 01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:29,080 you talk about from from mainstream science if it can't understand that's exactly right 961 01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:35,640 and there were a certain dimensional intelligence to have gotten to that absolutely it's really a 962 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:44,360 key and ETs negative you know service to self ETs basically that they're you know working with 963 01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:52,120 and certainly becoming aware of the you know the veil behind the veil you know because if you 964 01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:59,160 could talk about consciousness and mind as as we have here but if you want to lay out you know 965 01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:05,480 if you want to understand what's really going on you do have to talk about ETs and you have to 966 01:46:05,480 --> 01:46:12,200 talk about interdimensional entities and and also show entities that that don't 967 01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:18,360 have physical body sure that's what I say early you've got we've got to do this on all levels 968 01:46:18,440 --> 01:46:25,480 because it's awkward and the best presentation which I heard of the answer to one of the most 969 01:46:25,480 --> 01:46:31,240 important questions and I can't remember whether you yourself or Jordan Maxwell or perhaps both 970 01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:37,560 who said how could humans do the things that they do to other humans on this planet is they seem 971 01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:43,400 to really be doing how could we be trashing this planet our home in the way that we are at the 972 01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:49,800 behest of the controllers how could humans be doing this and the answer is that actually they're 973 01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:55,640 not human at the highest level is there something that you said always that was that was that's a 974 01:46:55,640 --> 01:47:02,680 thing that I've been talking about for a while because you know this reality we keep talking about 975 01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:07,480 different levels this reality I was operates on different levels and you've got the the wave 976 01:47:08,440 --> 01:47:13,080 vibrational level you've got the electromagnetic level you've got the visible light level 977 01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:23,080 and you've got the digital level and you when you talk about the level of advancement and 978 01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:31,400 potential that you mentioned earlier it is a sense to if you look at where the development of 979 01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:37,240 artificial intelligence is moving now within this stone age level of awareness you 980 01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:45,240 imagine what is possible at the cutting edge of the secret projects and even beyond that in the 981 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:54,840 realms of the non-human levels of this and they have without question the ability to create 982 01:47:55,800 --> 01:48:01,320 artificial intelligence that looks to our in the decoded world because I'm decoding you now 983 01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:06,520 what you are as a vibrational field so if you can create a vibrational field 984 01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:16,840 with artificial intelligence that is vibrating externally in the same form range that human body is 985 01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:23,480 because basically it's a biological computer human body but what's animating it is different 986 01:48:23,480 --> 01:48:29,720 to what animates at us then I'm going to decode you or I'm going to decode this artificial intelligence 987 01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:34,360 just like the lady in the red dress in the matrix movie and she's going to look just like you and me 988 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:41,560 and I remember being in that ayahuasca state in 2003 and this that female voice said to me 989 01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:47,720 if you programmed a computer to abuse a child would the computer have any emotional 990 01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:52,200 consequence for that any emotional reaction none it would just do what it's programmed to do 991 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:57,800 and one of the most blatant things about these illuminati bloodlines is they have no empathy 992 01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:03,480 they have no ability to empathize with the consequences for others of their actions that's why 993 01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:10,840 there are no limits you know pepper bombing bag dad to us horrific, terrific emotional consequence 994 01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:17,960 so then nothing just like a computer and they are like computers and to a large extent that's why 995 01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:23,720 they are some of them are so so bright you know my computer on my desk and work things out 996 01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:30,760 quicker than I can in some areas where it's just you know working out to a program it's not 997 01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:36,680 yes no wisdom it has no empathy it has no heart or consciousness but on a mental level it can 998 01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:40,680 work very quickly and these people are very sharp mentally is no doubt about it some of these 999 01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:47,080 people are very sharp indeed but they have no no heart no no balancing qualities of consciousness 1000 01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:53,960 I've convinced their artificial intelligence and when I look at someone like Kissinger I mean I 1001 01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:59,240 see an artificial intelligence that has been created by a very very advanced knowledge and 1002 01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:05,400 looks just like you and me because that's the way we decode it you know and we know again 1003 01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:12,440 Bill when you're talking about the rituals and what have you what are the rituals doing 1004 01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:17,720 they're it's all about creative vibrational field they're creating an energetic environment 1005 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:22,840 that allows these interdimensional entities to move into this dimension at least briefly 1006 01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:28,760 and what they're also doing is accessing through these rituals the vibrational level of reality 1007 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:36,280 which is the prime level of reality which we decoded to this and so what they're doing on 1008 01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:42,120 on one level with these rituals which they often do at vortex points which are a very powerful 1009 01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:47,320 and affecting the vibrational state of the planet and the lines of communication lines that 1010 01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:52,760 like meridian lines that we have in the body of the planet has if they do a ritual where a lot of 1011 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:58,840 these lines meet then the vibrational effect of that ritual is going out down these lines and they're 1012 01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:04,840 being they're affecting ours because we're being affected by that vibrational level at prime level 1013 01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:13,560 so I know doubt at all they've got technology too that is that is creating disharmony 1014 01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:19,640 within the vibrational level of this reality which then will create disharmony here 1015 01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:29,000 you know and the thing is though I remember this that that's seen in the matrix 1016 01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:35,480 because I people read things in different ways I read neos journey has become unconscious 1017 01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:39,000 I mean I think that's probably what they meant but that's a that's quite a way I read it very 1018 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:46,840 powerfully and there was a point where he's in a simulation with the morphiest character 1019 01:51:47,480 --> 01:51:53,640 and morphiest is explaining about the agents now for agents read people that you're talking 1020 01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:58,280 about that have the ability to do incredible things within this reality because they understand 1021 01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:02,040 how it works and they keep it from the people right and people who watch the matrix will remember 1022 01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:07,720 the scene because the agent agent Smith is in freeze frame and this thing with a gun and the morphist 1023 01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:15,800 character says to neo people have emptied entire clips at them and hit nothing but air 1024 01:52:16,440 --> 01:52:23,160 but their strength and their speed he's still based on a world based on rules 1025 01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:29,480 and because of that they can never be as fast or as strong as you can be right because 1026 01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:36,600 within this virtual reality there are rules to the game some of them are called war laws of physics 1027 01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:44,120 and such like consciousness overcomes those laws does not recognize them he's not is not 1028 01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:54,040 entrapped by them so as we become conscious we move beyond the box that the controlling force 1029 01:52:54,040 --> 01:53:00,200 is actually in because during my talks I put two boxes one's got symbolically a reptilian on it 1030 01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:04,120 and a smaller one's got humans on it what they've done and the whole 1031 01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:09,160 foundation of how it's been possible because they're in a box otherwise what we're doing what they're doing 1032 01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:13,800 and if they're artificial intelligence they're obviously in a box with a lid on that doesn't 1033 01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:23,240 open but they're managed to control human society by putting humans in a smaller box than there 1034 01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:28,600 it again we come back symbolic of the box they're holding the ball on the bottom of the tank 1035 01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:35,800 as we become conscious we go beyond their potential and that's what they're terrified of 1036 01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:42,600 let me tell the story about Bill Burns and Admiral George Hoover don't know if you've heard this one 1037 01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:47,560 but we'd love to tell it's on on camera Bill Burns uh last-sanjardis based editor of 1038 01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:54,920 UFO magazine uh talked to Admiral George Hoover from the office of naval intelligence before he died 1039 01:53:55,640 --> 01:54:01,960 when he was an elderly man and he had one of these turnaround experiences when he was very old 1040 01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:06,760 and he started to talk to Bill Burns about what was really going on and Bill Burns wanted to know 1041 01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:12,520 about things like the Roswell crash all of this all of this stuff and one of the things 1042 01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:19,080 that George Hoover told Bill Burns was that the Roswell crash the the visitors there there were 1043 01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:23,800 time travelers there were us from the future time traveling future humans which we've heard from other 1044 01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:33,960 sources as well and the most important thing though the biggest secret was how powerful we are 1045 01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:39,800 the consciousness we have the ability that we have and Bill Burns's words from George Hoover 1046 01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:45,400 was our ability to manipulate the consciousness around us and if we started to do that as far as 1047 01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:51,160 the controllers were concerned we would create havoc and this is what must not be known it must 1048 01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:55,240 not be known how powerful we are because the time traveling future humans 1049 01:54:56,840 --> 01:55:03,000 used their consciousness in order to to bridge these dimensions and what these disks are 1050 01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:07,880 according to Hoover and also according to Philip Coursett who wrote the day after Roswell 1051 01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:12,040 was that they're sort of they're like they're they're amplifiers and 1052 01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:17,720 and focusing devices of consciousness and the pilots are in integral part of the machine 1053 01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:22,120 and as any quantum physicist will tell you it's consciousness actually has the ability 1054 01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:28,040 to determine whether Schrodinger's cat is a live or dead whether to to determine 1055 01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:33,400 probabilistic quantum outcomes to actually inferences reality you can't do quantum physics without 1056 01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:39,640 taking into advantage without taking account of consciousness and therefore this means if you have a 1057 01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:48,840 very high control and ability in that in that in that realm it's sort of bridges mind and 1058 01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:56,200 consciousness then just as great adept so I said to be able to do you can buy locate so okay so we'll 1059 01:55:56,200 --> 01:56:00,840 do it all together we'll do it in a craft it'll help us it'll amplifies and this is what the craft 1060 01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:05,000 so and this is why they were baffled when they opened up these things it couldn't find an engine 1061 01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:13,000 that female voice in the Iowa Square experiences it's certainly why do you fly in a plane 1062 01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:19,960 when you're only flying through yourself exactly and what came to mind when you were talking 1063 01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:26,760 there there was the the the the carry on of that scene in the matrix with the agent Smith 1064 01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:32,840 where we staying never be as strong and fast as you can be and then the neocaric just says 1065 01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:39,560 do you mean not be out of dodge bullets no neo when you're ready you won't have to 1066 01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:41,960 control in your 1067 01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:49,080 experience you know you don't have to dodge bullets you'm going to make sure no one understands 1068 01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:54,440 you want an abysson or you have to dodge yeah yeah and you know people are sitting these 1069 01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:59,880 so many times over the years right from the early days why aren't you dead and it may sound 1070 01:56:59,880 --> 01:57:09,720 I don't you know I can only say why no it's deep inside they can't they can't they can't 1071 01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:18,760 if we were coming to do something and all it took was someone to shoot a bullet and it's all over 1072 01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:24,200 what's the point they can't what I would what I would say very strongly and it's coming 1073 01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:31,880 more and more into my life there was an ex-factor which I don't understand yet by sure as hell 1074 01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:39,720 knows there and it's an ex-factor which is going to bring an end to this childish playground nonsense 1075 01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:48,600 of human control. what you mean an external influences something something I absolutely 1076 01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:59,080 a deep level I know it and whenever I think about it whenever I think about what I'm talking about 1077 01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:14,440 now what I see clearly is the planet with a a cell prison around it and a big lock and a key going in 1078 01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:21,720 and I'll tell you a funny story what a funny story tell you a story I was feeling so strongly about this 1079 01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:29,800 about two weeks ago and immediately after I went on the internet and I'm going through I'm looking 1080 01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:42,120 for a picture for my talk and in front of me was a planet in a prison cell with a big lock on it 1081 01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:49,880 which said master on it and a key and that ex-factor that master key it's coming it's coming 1082 01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:58,840 and it's not going to come like cavalry to save everything but it is a big factor in I'm absolutely 1083 01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:09,480 convinced that the end of this prison society is a done deal I think the outcome is going to 1084 01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:18,760 happen I think it's meant to happen and we're now seeing and it will go on for a while but we're now 1085 01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:30,280 seeing the last throws of a dying system where the illuminati in their box are believing their 1086 01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:37,080 crash in the system to create something else when it's actually crashing ultimately for another reason 1087 01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:41,720 is through a real danger because you've got a corner tanger that a cornered tiger that at its 1088 01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:47,960 most dangerous when it's cornered is that possible? Oh these people in their panic are going to 1089 01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:55,240 thrash out in all bloody directions but you know that's just part of this transition from where we are 1090 01:59:55,240 --> 02:00:01,800 to where we're going and the thing is that you know you can look at the news and you can see the 1091 02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:08,520 conspiracy moving on in Britain that's just going ridiculous but what you don't see on the news 1092 02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:18,120 and therefore it's not a Euro-wannus is how fast the awakening from the amnesic sleep is moving on 1093 02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:27,320 and it's moving on dramatically quickly and I'm not saying that tomorrow the sun's going to 1094 02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:31,640 come up and everything's going to be fine you know we're deeply into a transitional period here and 1095 02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:39,720 there's going to be a lot of challenges and this thing's going to move on further but the outcome 1096 02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:47,560 I think is a done deal this is going down and then we can start to create a new society based on 1097 02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:52,600 consciousness values rather than the limitations of mind and I would just say this because I think 1098 02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:59,720 important for my point of view it's important I think you know there's a great danger 1099 02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:05,640 that this 2012 thing is going to be a massive massive diversion it's a spirit to all right okay 1100 02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:10,440 that's that's what I've called it actually a spiritual work okay myself and 1101 02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:18,440 me of all people who saw a psychic in 1990 and was told that vibrational change was coming 1102 02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:24,680 I have all people should be saying yeah look 2012 that's it it's more evidence the vibrational 1103 02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:32,280 change the transformation I cannot sync with that at all and what's slightly concerning is that 1104 02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:38,760 the number of emails I get and other people I know websites get of people saying what's the 1105 02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:43,960 point of doing anything because so I'm going to change in 2012 or the matter is like a farmer selling 1106 02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:49,480 hope which is always the the horse in front on the carousel no matter how fast you you go around 1107 02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:54,200 you never get closer to the horse in front that's what hope does what hope is especially in the way 1108 02:01:54,200 --> 02:02:04,440 our farmer uses it and what why 2K 2012 has the deep potential of becoming is a holding path 1109 02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:12,600 a holding position where people who could be doing something now just wait around again what is 2012 1110 02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:21,720 symbolically it's the cavalry coming exactly hey hey the cavalry's here it's not coming it's here 1111 02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:28,360 right the cavalry needs to get on its horse by the incidentally and stop waiting for another one to 1112 02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:37,400 come it's exactly I mean it's like me in the place where he is at where he realizes that he has the 1113 02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:46,040 ability to become all that is and therefore bullets pass through him because he's no longer there there 1114 02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:54,840 right he's actually everywhere and and that in a sense I mean I know it's words but in a sense 1115 02:02:54,840 --> 02:03:02,600 that is the key that we all hold and what's happening in a sense is with the wave there's actually 1116 02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:11,720 a facilitation that's happening we've been told by various people but one in particular Jake Simpson 1117 02:03:12,360 --> 02:03:20,200 who has been on the inside talks about regardless of how you view the future this wave of energy is 1118 02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:26,360 actually coming towards our planet or you could view it as our planet solar system is moving into the 1119 02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:34,680 synergy it is coming so it's like it's like if you're surfing and you know a wave is coming 1120 02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:42,120 there's whole groups of people on the planet getting ready to ride the wave and so in a sense they 1121 02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:49,240 have to have the key in order to ride the wave in a sense you could say the surfboard the consciousness 1122 02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:55,560 the key to understanding who they are and what consciousness really is and how they're united 1123 02:03:55,640 --> 02:04:03,160 which is part of the key because we are united you see if if we know that we are everywhere 1124 02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:09,240 then and we're totally linked up see ominous by the right now you're in that body right now and 1125 02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:17,560 between us looks like there's empty space but in reality this is consciousness this space is incorporated 1126 02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:27,240 so there is actually no break between you and I and Bill here we're all in the sea of consciousness 1127 02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:34,440 three tips of the same ways but that's why you know becoming conscious is the bottom line of 1128 02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:40,680 everything if we don't become conscious and moving to these realms of understanding the sort of stuff 1129 02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:46,680 you're talking about that we're all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively life is only a 1130 02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:54,040 dream and you know matter is just you know energy condensed to a slow vibration is Bill 1131 02:04:54,040 --> 02:05:00,440 Hitchies to say unless we we come from this perspective then what what what's the key thing of 1132 02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:06,280 any dictatorship is divide and rule and so what they what the whole basis of what they're doing 1133 02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:12,040 is taking consciousness consciousness consciousness consciousness consciousness and 1134 02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:19,800 dividing it in upon itself you know what we're seeing here is is basically consciousness so 1135 02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:25,320 manipulated that it's at war with itself because it's come to a so it's been brought to such a low level 1136 02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:31,640 of awareness compared with its potential and so the spiritual and the street wise the five-sense 1137 02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:38,280 conspiracy and the understanding of the nature of reality they've got to go together and you know 1138 02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:44,360 for too long they've been apart and people said oh spiritual that's new age oh yeah that's that's 1139 02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:50,600 credible that's well what was saying spiritual that's new age or um is the credible you know because 1140 02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:55,960 I know all that stuff these things have to come together because as one unit they're unstoppable 1141 02:05:55,960 --> 02:06:02,920 apart again divided rule they have a fraction of their potential power for change yes if people 1142 02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:09,880 people come from the heart they'll know what to do exactly people come from the head it will tell 1143 02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:17,160 them a long list of things why there's nothing they can do or why there's no point in doing them 1144 02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:24,520 it's we're at it we're at a fork in the road and you know symbolically because it's a balance of 1145 02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:29,560 the two that we're looking for ideally here and it's symbolically it's the choice between the head 1146 02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:33,720 and the heart let's say head domination or heart domination of our sense of reality 1147 02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:43,640 and if we take the heart root then this world will transform from a manifestation of mind to a 1148 02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:48,600 manifestation of consciousness has to because this is just a projection this has to follow what goes 1149 02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:56,360 on here if we if we take the choice of mind then we're going to live in a global version of 1150 02:06:56,360 --> 02:07:04,200 Nazi Germany my my my strong feeling is although we're going to go closer to a global version of 1151 02:07:04,200 --> 02:07:11,800 Nazi Germany ultimately the whole thing will collapse because the awakening will cease to hold it together 1152 02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:17,560 if you're a betting man what would you say the timescale of events the rollout will be over the next 1153 02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:23,320 one two three five ten years if you're a historian what do you think you'd be writing about I'd say 1154 02:07:23,400 --> 02:07:29,080 and I'm probably being optimistic I'd say we would live in a global version of Nazi Germany 1155 02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:36,120 with in ten years if we take that route we take that route will in ten years time be 1156 02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:43,800 deeply into a transition to a very different world it's just a choice but this ex factor 1157 02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:51,960 he's going to help us to to change the world to one that I would like to live in don't know 1158 02:07:51,960 --> 02:07:57,720 what the X-factor is but I know it's coming it'll be fun wonderful well thanks thanks 1159 02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:05,400 there is a pleasure thanks so much cheers looking forward to the future yeah that's the good 1160 02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:11,480 future is now and the future is now I always once