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We're here with David Wilcock and we're very happy to be invited to his humble about which is not so humble and

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I won't say where and David Wilcock.

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Well thank you.

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Thank you, Harry.

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I've had the opportunity to be in the right place at the right time on many occasions with some really amazing people.

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And I've had a lot of really interesting experiences of my own going all the way back to very early in my life.

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I read this book actually when I was seven years old.

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It's called How to Make ESP Work for You by Harold Sherman.

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This book talks about ESP as if it were something that most people didn't understand and know about.

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And that surprised me.

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Most kids in my grade were reading Clifford the Big Red Dog.

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And this book was obviously a lot more intense than anything most kids would read at my age.

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There were no pictures.

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It was kind of scary.

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You're looking at these little bitty words and trying to follow it.

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But I was just so fascinated as a child with the concepts that I just got into it.

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And the other thing that I felt really drawn to with that age was books on Hifnosis.

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And I've read both of these books beginning when I was seven years old as well.

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I somehow felt that there was a connection between Hifnosis and ESP.

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And I didn't understand why I felt that way until much later.

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The next book that I really read was Eric Achitam's Nasser Domis prophecy is 1985 and Beyond.

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This is when I first got into the idea that there was going to be some kind of event around the year 2000,

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which Nasser Domis scholars typically would say is a cataclysmic event and nasty event.

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And I saw that special on HBO where the Russian nuclear missiles are in blow up the US.

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And they had Orson Wells narrating and he goes into great detail about Nasser Domis's prophecies.

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What triggered, I mean, why would a seven-year-old kid read books like this?

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Why would you be inspired to conduct such research at such a young age?

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I was an usually intelligent, but more importantly, when I was five years old, I had a really pivotal event in my life, which was an out-of-body experience.

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I woke up in the middle of the night and I was floating over my own body in bed.

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And I looked down and saw myself breathing, so it was clear that I was still alive.

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But I couldn't make sense out of why I was in two places at the same time, and why I still had these funny yellow pajamas with the red cuffs.

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Well, the event had such an impact on me that I saved the pajamas.

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They became sacred pajamas, and I never washed them again.

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I never wore them again.

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These pajamas were in two places at once, and I didn't understand how that could be, and so they became very sacred to me.

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I wake up the next morning, very excited.

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I tell my father and he says, oh, you just had a dream.

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I went to school, and I told the kindergarten teacher Mrs. Demazzi, she says you just had a dream.

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And bear in mind, I was a typical silly kid.

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Mrs. Demazzi told my friend Chris and myself to go trim the Christmas tree, and so we proceeded to take our little scissors and start cutting ran his off the tree.

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So, you know, I did kid things.

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I had rocks in my pocket, and paper clips, and gumballs, and but at the same time, once this out of body thing happened, I saved the pajamas, and I said,

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I got to get another chance, because if I hadn't been afraid, I wouldn't have stayed in the house, and I probably would have gone somewhere really fascinating.

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And I had so many UFO dreams, where, in some cases, I would end up talking to someone who looked like, after I saw the movie Star Wars, it became Obi-Wan Kenobi.

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And he said that something really amazing was going to happen in the future on Earth, and that I had some kind of role in it, and that I would be guided, and,

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most of the conversations I couldn't remember when I woke up, but I would be so overwhelmed with the emotion of the loss of this contact with him that I would wake up and just be devastated by the fact that I had lost that connection.

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If we fast forward from that, which is a wonderful introduction to who you are today, you, at some point, became aware that you could be the reincarnation of Edgar Casey.

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I did read the ESP book, and he said, the younger you are when you start doing these exercises, the more psychic you'll be.

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I'm like, I'm already seven years old. What am I?

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Never going to be very good now, should have been doing this since I was two. I read this book, Stephen LeBarage, Lucid Dreaming, and then exploring the world of Lucid Dreaming in high school, and was able to have Lucid Dreams based on the techniques in this book.

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I would end up on the main deck of UFOs and talking to beings, and I would, LeBarage is perspective as, hey, this is just your mind. There's nothing real about any of this stuff.

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So I would just wake up and laugh and be like, no, this means anything.

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College, I quit using alcohol, and all intoxicating chemicals. I did smoke some marijuana, and I quit that in my sophomore year.

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Six months later, a friend comes in to my room. He had traveled long distance to see me, and he was white as a sheet of paper, and he said,

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I got to tell somebody what just happened. What are you talking about? He said, I just had a conversation with my physics professor and he said, UFOs are real.

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Give me a break, man. Come on.

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But I was curious enough that I had him keep talking, and he basically said, the physics professor offhandedly mentioned UFOs are real, and he was the star pupil.

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So after class, he talked to the professor, and he said, the professor said, yeah, we know this is true. We mean NASA. He had worked in the high-rush lines of NASA for 11 years. We know this is true, but we're never going to let it go out on the main headline of the New York Times.

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And the reason why is that we, we shot tests of the public with more of the worlds and found out that they really can't handle the truth.

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Because they're going to think that they're being invaded, they're going to think they're going to panic. The economy is going to go belly up, so we just can't let this out. So there's a gradual indoctrination going on, getting people into this information.

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He said that the ship had a panel all the way around the bottom, and they pulled it off, expecting to see components inside, and instead all they saw was this ceramic.

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So for a couple of years, they didn't know what they were looking at, and they finally looked at the ceramic under magnification, high magnification, and saw all these lines on it.

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It turns out that this was a gigantic computer ship that ran the whole width of the ship, and it was a superconducting ceramic material, which means that electrons would flow through it without any loss.

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Now, from this, the professor said that we got fiber optics, they found burnt edges of fiber optic cables in the ships.

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We got Teflon, the non-stick material, it's a special material. We got Kevlar, bulletproof vests came from reverse engineering.

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Laser beams, past between two mirrors, one of them is semi-permable, a beam comes out. Laser's came from the ships. LED lights came from the ships.

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Infrared night vision came from the ships. They looked through the port hole windows, and they saw this green, you could see outside at night, and computer chips, obviously.

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So, what this really means is that most of the technology that we now have, including the technology that's recording my voice, and that we're filming with, would not exist if it were not for this sort of celestial inheritance that we got in the forties.

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Well, that just screwed my head right off, and for two weeks I'd be walking down the street, I'd see a main hole cover, I think a UFO's.

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I'd go to the cafeteria, I'd have a plate on my, I'd be eating off this plate thinking of UFO's. I just couldn't get it out of my mind, and after two weeks time I said,

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if this is real, and I believed it was, because he went into propulsion systems, how they could get to light speed, he went into three different types of occupants they found in the ships.

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If this is real, it's the most important thing that could possibly be to study. I finished college, and I got my bachelor's degree in psychology, and I got a PhD in UFO's.

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This was the director of communications for the Apollo missions, okay? This guy is the real deal high-end NASA scientist, who came forward in 1995 to say that they had discovered ruins on the moon, architecture on the moon.

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Well, this book went into so much detail about ancient civilizations, and obviously showing that some sort of intelligence interface with ancient civilizations, to get us to where we are now, and to create these artifacts that we find all around the world,

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I became quite compelled with the evidence he presented showing me that there had to have been a civilization that was highly advanced before our current one, which in most people's mind, you think of BC, you think of cavemen, right?

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Well, BC is only 100 generations ago, and that's not a whole lot of time really. So basically speaking, we have a much older history.

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So all this stuff is coming into my mind. I had started to write my dreams down when I got sober. That was part of my recovery process, because dreaming is a very important part of the lucid dreaming process.

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You have to capture a dream when it comes in, and then meditate on it, and visualize yourself becoming lucid, meaning that you say, oh my God, I'm in a dream. I can levitate things. I can fly. I can snap my fingers and go to a whole different place. I can create people to talk to. I can create objects.

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I mean, I've had a number of these, and they are absolutely fantastic. But you have to remember your dreams, and then repeat this line to yourself, next time I'm dreaming, I want to remember to recognize that I'm dreaming. That's the key line. Next time I'm dreaming, I want to remember to recognize that I'm dreaming. So I already had a lot of experience remembering dreams. So I start remembering dreams, and I start getting all this information coming in from books. I read 500 books in three years.

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I had a list of all of them, and I submitted my application in the Rope Institute, which is a graduate school in Boulder, Colorado, and Transpersonal Psychology, which is sort of like metaphysical psychology.

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And I handed them this list, and I said, name any book, and I'll give you a discourse on it.

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And I didn't get accepted, probably, because my financial situation wasn't very good. It came back from Boulder. Now we're into 1996. I've been doing this research for three years.

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And I was like, okay, why am I so compelled? Why can I not stop reading these books? I'm just so obsessed. There's got to be something more to this.

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I start having dreams in which UFOs fly overhead, and something shoots out of UFOs when it comes spinning down lands on the ground, and it's a telephone, and it starts ringing.

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Oh shit. Wow.

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And then I had this other dream where this ET kind of walked up to me, and all these books start flying out from behind it like a cyclone.

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And they're hitting me in the face, and it hurts kind of them. But as each book is flying past me, all these books that I'd read, it's like all the knowledge in the book comes into my mind at once.

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And I start seeing how it all fits together in this dream. It was like this incredible telepathic overwhelming blast. And I woke up and I'm like, what is what does this mean? What it's almost like they're saying,

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because if you're watching these videos and you're into the UFO subject, you kind of say to yourself, yeah, it's all out there, right? It's all something I'm reading about.

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This is like it comes into your mind. It's personal. It's part of you now. And they want to talk to me. They want to have a conversation. They meaning whoever they is.

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What finally happened was I had a dream that said, okay, here's what's going to happen.

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You'll be able to hear it was ghost that was talking to me in the dream and he said, you can hear me, but nobody else can. So I'll tell you what to say. And then you just dictate it into a taper quarter.

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So here I am. I've read 500 books. I get on the internet. And by this point, I had come across material called ascension or some people were calling it,

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Paul shift. I read the Nasserdama stuff. So I said, well, what's really going on here? Now up until this point, I had almost entirely read empirical science-oriented books about UFO biology, about metaphysics, about Atlantis.

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However, at this point, I started to get more into the possibility that somebody could intuitively communicate with these guys.

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I found a book by Dr. Normal on a bitch called Wee the Arturians. And I wasn't 100% convinced but I was relatively compelled by it.

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Then I found a book by Dr. Scott Manlker called From Elsewhere. And I don't have it in front of me here, but this book says on the cover, the subculture of those who claim to be of non-earthly origins.

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I looked at it in the store and this guy is really far out. But I held the book between my hands, which I would do, psychometry. And it was tingling so incredibly, it was electrical.

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So I looked, opened the book to the back and said, if you can answer these 12 questions in the affirmative about yourself, then you very likely are an extraterrestrial soul in human body, who's forgotten who you really are.

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I started reading these questions and it's like the most personal, insightful, almost invasive, psychological description of who I really was, underneath the mask that I'd ever seen.

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And I couldn't believe it. He doesn't even know me and yet he knows me better than anybody, even my parents. How did that happen? And he's saying that this has to do with being an extraterrestrial soul in a human body.

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So I read, I just devoured this book. This was in November of 1995, after I graduated college in 95.

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I go to my friend Jude's house, Jude and I did music together a lot, because I'm also a drummer and a composer.

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And Jude and I did automatic writing together on his suggestion, where you hold the pencil in your left hand, let it do what it wants to do, and I didn't think it was going to work. I thought it was kind of hokey.

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But we really meditated and I felt this conscious connection to my third eye and trying to pull in energy from there.

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And all of a sudden, and the question we asked was, am I a wanderer, which is what they call these extraterrestrial souls? Am I a wanderer?

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I start feeling something coming in really strong and I pull here really strong.

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And for all of two or three seconds, my left hand jumped into activity and did all this stuff.

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And I dropped the pen, oh my god, Jude, turn on the light, something happened, man. This is crazy.

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So we turn on the lights and the paper looked completely white. It was like, oh, what the hell?

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Then we looked really close and it was very, very faint pencil.

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And it says, my hand had written forward and backward on the same line and the recurves that intersected.

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And only because they collided with each other did it say, Christ, come if.

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Now I'm not, I was not raised to be Christian. I went to the Presbyterian Church maybe four times in my life.

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My mother wasn't really, my mother had had a Bible upbringing and then she really rebelled from it and got away from it.

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Christ, come at that. And then the TH should come if looked like the word, raw.

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That's like the Egyptian God or something. What's that all about?

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Well, in the book that I have been reading from Scott and Anilker, the entity that he, based all this stuff on, was called raw.

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And it was a series of five four books originally then five called the Law of One.

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So after this happened, there was more than that. There was a encoded message. It said, E.C. 40, 57, and oxen.

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And the end was a little amperezane symbol. The oxen I understood, I'd worked at a fair over the summer.

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And I bought a statue of an ox, which I thought represented my becoming a beast of burden in the working world.

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And the woman was from Kenya and I said, well, what does this animal mean? She says, oh, how are you, American?

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Always think symbol, something mean something. Okay, well, this is an ox, right? You, you, you, hit it up to a plow and it plows the field for you.

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She says, no, no, it's water buffalo. Very dangerous. You get within 500 feet of this. You pray for death.

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So that surprised me. I said, okay, that means that somehow, all this stuff I'm going through is going to help me be really strong.

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And going through the working world doesn't mean I'm going to be submerged because I got out of college.

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And I'd had my bills paid. I'd had all the books I could read and then I had to support myself with like minimum wage jobs.

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And I did not want to be doing that. So I felt like I was going to be this burden, this beast of burden.

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Instead, the water buffalo is a powerful symbol. So here I am, months later, by this point, I've gotten fired from the men award for being too friendly to the patients.

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And there's this EC 4057 at the beginning. Well, Jude says, hey, EC isn't that like Bible like Ecclesiastes and it says Christ, right? So, okay, so we found the Bible and there was no verse 40.

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But then we remembered or Jude remembered the whole chapter verse thing only happened later.

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Originally, you measured it by the number of verses from the beginning. So we counted 40 verses from the beginning.

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I just got fired from the men award, right? That's why I was up state where my family was.

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Well, the first line says, for what half of the man, toiled and labored under the sun, this two is meaningless.

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Then the very last line, line 57 said, to eat and drink and be happy in one's toil. This is the grace of God.

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So it was like somebody was up there with the Bible saying, hmm, all right, let's give him this.

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And then my hand does this thing and it says, Christ, come, and then it gives me a Bible quote and it mentions the ox about my work.

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And then the Bible quote is about work. And in the middle was that famous line, which was turned into the song, turn turn turn by the birds, to everything there is a purpose.

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To everything there is a season and time for every purpose under heaven, a time to be born and the time to die, a time to gather stones together, you know, all those things, all those opposites.

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And I was at a real turning point in my life. So I felt, okay, this is really powerful, crazy.

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But what do you do with it? I mean, after that life just kind of returned to normal.

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So a few months later, I get this bill from my ex-girlfriend. I had a Japanese girlfriend in college and we had had a big long argument on the phone and I got a phone bill for like $200 to something.

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And I couldn't pay it and I freaked out because it was going to make me broke. I was working for 577 an hour taking care of developmentally disabled people in a residence facility.

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And I started screaming and crying and I said, if you're out there, I want the fucking proof right now. Sorry.

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Just beat that or something.

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No, really.

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People have told me I shouldn't swear. So.

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So if you're out there, I want the proof and I want it right now.

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So, and I'm looking out the window and seeing if there's going to be UFOs in the window, nothing happened.

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And then I'm trying to levitate this napkin on my plate and it didn't levitate.

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My friend ended up calling and he was going through AA and rehabilitation and I realized, you know, I'm a heck of a lot better off than he is right now.

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And by the end of the night, I'd forgotten about it. Next morning, my buddy had a housemate and he delivered pizza. He didn't even get home until after I went to bed that night.

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So he slept in until like 10 or 11 in the morning and we had a rule. Don't call us in the morning period.

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So this one morning the next morning after this happened, I get this little itch to go outside start the car.

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So that I could warm it up because it was winter time really freezing outside.

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So I go out, I start up my Subaru, I come back inside and there's Eric with pillow creases on his face and he's on the phone.

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Okay. Why is he on the phone? He hangs up the phone, he says, dude, I had a really strange dream about you.

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And I'm like, I can't listen to your dream. I gotta go to work. I'm late.

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Yeah, but this had UFO, all these UFOs were in it, man.

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Okay. I'm listening.

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All right. So I'm listening.

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So he starts going into this dream in which this whole fleet of UFOs flies overhead and people start panicking and running and they're all hiding under things.

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It was like a big mall, but there was no ceiling on the mall.

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And everybody evacuates except for my ex girlfriend and he didn't even know that I'd had this event happen about her and him and me.

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One UFO stayed and this pillar of light comes down and there's a flat disk on the bottom.

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And there's a man standing on the disk wearing a white robe and sandals, but it clearly was not Jesus because he had gray hair and gray beard.

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This is like a wise old man archetype.

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Well, he starts doing this discourse and he says, we are your brothers. You're long lost family.

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You came from us, we came from you, we came from the one, we are all one, we are all connected.

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We are here now at this time because you are about to go through this amazing, fantastic, energetic enlightenment of your life.

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Of your entire planet. Right now you're only seeing the bad part where you have the earth changes and you have the upheavals in your government and you're starting to see the rottenness in your society.

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But what comes after this is a golden age, far more incredible than you could ever imagine.

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And we are here to help you through this transition.

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So eventually stopping, he gave this whole ascension discourse.

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And he's just standing there and the girl says to Eric, shouldn't somebody go talk to him?

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And Eric says, well, I'll leave that today. He's the UFO guy. He'll know what to say.

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So apparently they kind of prodded me along. This is his dream.

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I walk up to the guy and he recognizes me.

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And we say some strange word to each other that wasn't in English.

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And then we hug each other. And he has his arm around me and he looks at Eric very serious now.

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And he says, it is very important that you know that he is one of us.

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So Eric tells me all of this, right?

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So then I didn't even have time to think about it. Oh my god. Okay, that's the whole dream great.

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Got to go and I'm driving to work and I'm passing people and I get to work and it's a terrible day.

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And then I got out from work and I was going to go visit my mother.

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So the next thing you know I'm on the New York State through a driving north up to Albany.

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It's pouring rain. My windshield is fogging over.

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I can't see anything. It's very deadly. I might not even make it alive.

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I'm hydropaining as I'm driving.

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And all of a sudden in this condition where I'm just almost in tears already from that day and just such a terrible day.

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I realized wait a minute.

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I asked a question the night before in prayer basically.

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You are you know one of us.

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I pulled the car over to the side of the road.

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And I just lost it. I mean.

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I knew in that moment that there was something.

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There was something I was here to do.

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And you know when you really bring yourself back to that point where you first heard it.

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It's still just as potent as when it happened.

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So my experience after that was again like okay what's next? What's going to happen now?

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That's when I started to get these dreams saying that we you know we want to communicate with you.

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But you're after I first had the automatic writing.

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I had now joined Richard Holglin's discussion group online.

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And met a guy named Joe Mason who had created a website soon afterwards called GreatDreams.com.

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And he talked about something he called the Dream Voice. And he said when you wake up in the morning and you can first remember your dreams.

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Listen to the background noise in your mind and just write it down no matter how cryptic it is or how nonsensical it sounds don't analyze it.

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That's the most important part.

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Do not try to understand it. Do not pay attention to it.

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Just let it flow through you and write it all down.

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I was up so late and he's telling me all this great information. I'm falling asleep and I'm just trying to write it.

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I wake up in the morning and it's like I can still hear his voice.

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So I just start writing it down.

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And I get all the way done and I have eight pages of material and it's weird.

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It almost sounded like schizophrenic ranting.

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But it said some very interesting things and one of the things it said was

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you should visit Chitchin Itza that my impairments. You can go there with your mind.

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Okay, you can go there with your mind.

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Well that's a astral projection. That's something I've been wanting to do all these years.

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I had the lucid dreams but I'd never really been able to walk out of my body from a conscious state.

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I really wanted to be able to do that.

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So I'm reading this for the second time really understanding it and the phone starts ringing.

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And it felt like there was this tugging energy on me from the phone.

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Hello?

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Hey Dave, this is your buddy from the Pine Bush UFO group.

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You want to come to a seminar on astral projection?

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I mean, again, it...

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I know that it's not likely that anybody's really going to want to believe this,

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but I mean, this is what really happened.

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I tried to get to the seminar I got lost on the highway.

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I never made it. I ended up having to come home.

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So there were a lot of really synchronistic events happening.

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I started to get these readings. On the first day, it also said,

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one of our women Theresa, a sibling, inoperative, the Christian, psychically.

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One of our women Theresa, mother Theresa, a sibling, sibling mother.

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One of our women Theresa, a sibling inoperative. Something went wrong.

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Something's with her health maybe, right?

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The Christian, mother Theresa, the Christian.

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One of our women Theresa, a sibling inoperative, the Christian psychically.

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Five days later, mother Theresa had a massive heart attack.

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Oh my gosh, right?

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So then a little while later, and this is one of the stories I tell in the book,

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which we'll get to in a second.

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I did a reading for my housemate, Eric, and it said to him,

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you would be happy to know that your student loans for new Pauls have come in.

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This is the college we were going to, state university, even New York and New Pauls.

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Let's make any sense because he graduated from New Pauls already.

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you'll be happy to know your student loans have come in.

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You should visit New Pauls.

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So I told Eric about all this, and he was now a graduate student at SUNY Albany.

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he says, dude, you better sit down for this one.

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Let's go on, man. He says, new Pauls called my mother.

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They were cleaning out the burstars off as a financial office.

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There was a file cabinet up against the wall, was one of the last things they had to remove.

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They pulled a file cabinet away from the wall, there's an envelope behind the file cabinet.

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Inside the envelope was a check made out to me, Eric, for $900 on cash, staffed loan.

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And we needed about $879 to be able to pay our rent.

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So this was just like, wow.

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How did they, and then you start going through these loops in your mind, like, okay, how could this possibly have been done?

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What started to happen was that I would have a stack of cassette tapes.

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I would get about a month behind a lot of times on my transcriptions of this.

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I would dictate my dreams, and I would dictate whatever words I heard.

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The words were basically like a wisdom teaching, talking to me and saying, you know, spiritual principles, spiritual growth.

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Talking about this ascension saying there's this amazing thing that's going to come in your future.

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The whole plan is going to be going through this shift into a golden age.

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But I would get behind and I'd have these stacks of tapes.

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And I would sit down a month after I dictated it or whatever.

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I'd start transcribing and it would describe what I was doing right before I sat down at the computer over and over and over again.

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You may remember that back in the 90s there was this little toy called Tomaguchi.

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This little orange plastic thing and little teenage girls would have it on their belts.

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And it was like a little chicken and you'd feed the chicken by hitting the button.

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I saw a little girl with one of these things on her belt, playing with it.

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I get home, pop in the tape, start transcribing it.

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And in the dream I'm saying I'm seeing this little girl with some strange orange toy on her belt.

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A couple years later another really dramatic story was I had a girlfriend at the time Sabrina as I call her on the website.

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And she came in to the house and I was transcribing and she says, I got this really great story.

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You can love this. He stopped the tape. Okay cool.

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I just met this guy at the ARE. This is the Edgar Casey Institute. I was now living in Virginia Beach at the time because the Casey readings instead it was a safety land.

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And I felt that was a trustworthy thing. Safe from earth changes or whatever.

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So she says, yeah, this guy just stopped in for one day's an old friend of mine and he was telling me about this building where the top floor was built to look like a UFO.

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Little port hole windows. You could look out. It was really neat.

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So I say, oh, that's cool. So there I go back and I hit play and I'm transcribing.

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I'm seeing a building with the top floor looking like a UFO.

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So I'm like, come over here, hit play and my headphones off and we're just looking at each other.

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The hairs are standing up right. Oh my god.

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So long, long story short. I'm getting all these synchronicities all the time. And I'm saying this is world class data.

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But do you think I want to go public about being extraterrestrial communicator? Heck no.

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Working for 577 an hour in a developmental disability facility. The last thing I want to do is end up in the mental ward again, but as a patient, not as an employee.

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So I'm living this double life by day I'm working in the night I come home and I'm transcribing tapes.

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And these readings are coming through and they're beautiful. Amazing discourses on spiritual growth and lighten and consciousness ascension.

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So finally the source to make a long story short tells me, you know, I finally had not a body experience.

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And one of the things that you want to do when you go out of body if you're a guy, at least it's your desire body, it's your subconscious.

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So you want to have sex. So I tried to conjure up a partner. And then I would be standing there with my pants down.

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And then there'd be all these people standing around pointing at me laughing.

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And it was like, okay, well, you know, if I'm going to get humiliated this much, maybe sex isn't such a good idea in the out of body plane.

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But then it seemed like I found this one woman and things started to go pretty well. If she took me back to her room.

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And I'm like, wow, this is now we're getting somewhere. But then she had a roommate in the room this guy and it's like the room is a mess.

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And so I start trying to convince them, hey, look, you know, I'm out of body. Now this is real. Watch this and I took my hand and shook it and turned into a bowling ball.

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And then detached it and rolled it down the hallway.

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And then when I do that, they just kind of like dissociate and they wouldn't look at me.

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And then if I'd stop trying to do stuff like that, they'd come back. But when I try to tell them I was a body, they would like lose track of my talking.

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So I finally said, isn't there somebody who knows what the hell is going on around here?

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Right? And I turn around and there's this woman. And she's just looking at me with this incredibly serene face.

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And she's got gray hair and a purple dress.

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And she's standing there. And she's not saying anything and I realize I'm paralyzed. I can't move.

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And I'm looking at her like, okay, what's going on? I can't move.

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And I keep waiting for something to happen. And I'm getting really freaked out because I'm paralyzed.

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She goes, you know you have to move, don't you?

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No. Well, I know you said something about Virginia Beach. And as soon as I said Virginia Beach, it was like I was free.

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And then this other woman comes out. I go down a hallway and there's all these doors and door opens and this woman comes out and she says,

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You're from Bloomingtown. That means you're Blooming. Doesn't it?

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I lived in a town called Bloomington.

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So I'm like, all right, I guess I got a move to Virginia Beach. So it was wasn't easy. I had $700 through all my stuff in the car drove down there.

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Got a list from the ARA Association for Research and Lightment, the Casey organization.

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And this guy who I'd connected with Francis Spore, the art director of the venture and word magazine, the Edgar Casey magazine,

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says, I have got to meet you as soon as you get here.

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Okay, because I told him I was doing these readings and stuff, right?

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And I walk in, he walks up to the door because I ended up renting a room from his friend who lived in the condo across the way from his.

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And he opens up the door and he looks at many goes, My God, it is unbelievable.

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It's me. It me, what are you talking about? He's like, you look exactly like Edgar Casey. Exactly.

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Oh, man. You know, I'd already had this experience before I left from New York in which there was, there happened to be the only northeast ARA study group was just a few miles away from my house and sky skipped weather for who's running it.

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And he secretly, you know, we were having these study group meetings in public and he didn't want me to tell them, but on the side we were doing these met, these,

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He knows the sessions where he would hypnotize me and I would end up channeling and I was reading his mind.

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I would answer questions that he would ask before he would ask them out loud.

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And at one point, apparently, I, you know, he said, well, isn't it, it's so strange that you can do this and apparently in the channel,

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I open up my eyes and I looked at him and I said, it is by nature of the continuity of consciousness that I can do this.

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I freaked him out because my eyes are black, you know, they just like, it didn't look right.

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But that was also strange because I had these two crystals I would use under my hands when I do the reading.

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I put my hands on the crystals and exactly as I did this bolt of energy comes out of the wall from, from a wire like about this long.

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And then he said, as soon as I left after that day, all the power in the house went off for exactly one hour.

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So strange things were going on like that.

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And then one day he, I come, he says, you got to come over to my house right now, right now.

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I don't really, no, I'm serious, right now, okay, fine, fine, fine.

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So he, I go over there and he's got this magazine and there's a, there's a cutout in the middle of the magazine with a picture in it.

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And the picture is of a face and the face looks exactly like my face and he says, throws it down on the desk, says, who's that?

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I'm thinking, okay, well, I've never been, I've never been published, I never been print it's clearly my face.

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And then I'm thinking, okay, well, all right, it's got to be the A-R-E magazine because it's got that pencil style that they use on the cover.

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Edgar Casey.

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Yeah, but who else does it look like?

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Oh, man.

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So I'm just like, I do not want to be under Casey, okay.

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But then I get this out of body thing, you know you have to move, don't you?

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And then you're from Bloomingtown, that means you're Blooming, aren't you?

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And all this stuff happens, so I go to Virginia Beach.

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The next thing, you know, Francis is saying, I got to get you a meeting with Robert Smith, the director of the venture in Worm Magazine.

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So we go to this, uh, N'Wobb, Indian restaurant, which is down in Virginia Beach, a few streets back from the ocean front.

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I forget what the street is.

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Anyway, apparently I was sitting in the restaurant and I turned over and looked at him like this.

358
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And there's a picture of Edgar Casey working at his desk and turning the smiling.

359
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So he walks in the restaurant and I look at him like this and it's the spinning image of the photograph.

360
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,000
And he says to me, you know, he eventually confessed he was trying to stay cool.

361
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He said, when I saw your face, I almost fell over backwards.

362
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,000
You are exactly the same as Edgar Casey in the way you look.

363
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Uh, long story short, I ended up meeting everybody in the ARE.

364
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:15,000
I'm living with a guy who's a Casey scholar. He starts telling me all the stuff about Casey because I hadn't really read too much about Casey.

365
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000
I'd read about the Atlantis stuff, which I found fascinating, but I wouldn't know.

366
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:26,000
I knew he was psychic and I felt his work could be trusted, but I hadn't really gotten into it because there's seen a 5600 Casey books.

367
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:35,000
But here's this guy I'm living with now as a result of the ARE contact who had been best friends with Gladys Davis who was Casey's apparently soulmate and secretary.

368
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:41,000
I heard all the inside stories you don't usually hear, including the fact that he'd stepped on a stick and went through his testicle.

369
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One of his testicles was dead.

370
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:53,000
Um, I heard all all these stories about what the reading said about Atlantis and how all these people reincarnations of each other and they kept reincarnating in groups together.

371
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And we kept kind of, he kept kind of saying, you know, you probably had your Casey reincarnated.

372
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:05,000
I'm, oh my god. And we actually had Tom Johnson, the owner of the Heritage Store, which sells Casey products,

373
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can't come into the house one night. My god, he looks just like Edgar Casey.

374
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,000
Here we go again, Jesus.

375
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:21,000
So finally he said, my contact Jim says to the guy I was living with says, you got to ask, you got to ask your readings.

376
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,000
He can't let this go on much longer.

377
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,000
By this point, I knew I could trust him.

378
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:34,000
I finally said, I asked him a very strange way, because when you're in transit, you're trying to get your mind conscious enough that you can actually ask a question.

379
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:42,000
And then you have to sink back down to get the answer. So I said, I would like to incubate a question on my identity here related to Edgar Casey,

380
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000
because I just couldn't say, what does I have your Casey in the past life?

381
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:52,000
Well, the answer comes back. It says, table rock, which I don't know why they said that. Still don't know.

382
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,000
This is our boss.

383
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,000
In short, the answer is yes.

384
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,000
And then they pulled out the cheesy spider-man line, but with the answer comes greater responsibility.

385
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Oh my god.

386
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,000
I was pissed.

387
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:14,000
I, after I had this reading, I just, I did not want this to be the truth.

388
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,000
And then later on, I just said, what the hell?

389
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:24,000
I just picked up Edgar Casey's astrology chart, the needle chart, and then compared to my own chart.

390
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,000
It's called a bi-wheel, right?

391
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:34,000
Well, I did that. And we've got moon over moon, Mars over Mars, Mercury over Mercury, Venus over Venus, Sun over Sun.

392
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:40,000
And then Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus Neptune, are all in these perfect aspect ratios to each other.

393
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,000
30 degrees, 60 degrees, 90 degrees.

394
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,000
It was so locked in precise.

395
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:53,000
We eventually had somebody do an astrology comparison found out that in a 127 year period after Casey's death.

396
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,000
There's only one time you could possibly be born where it would align that well with his birth chart.

397
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,000
And that was my birthday, the exact day time location.

398
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Further more, it was also in the Chinese zodiac year of the ox, the ox. Oh my god.

399
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
There it is again.

400
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:18,000
So when I saw the natal chart, I literally ran into the bathroom and I'm hovering over the toilet, like ready to throw up.

401
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Because what do we know about Edgar Casey?

402
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Casey had a reading that said, in 1998, Rottah, the priest will return.

403
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,000
Meaning Casey's past life in the Atlantis.

404
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Apparently was this guy who helped design the Great Pyramid. He was one of the chief architects of the Great Pyramid.

405
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:57,000
Rottah, he was a prophet who foretold the destruction of Atlantis, fled the island, got into Egypt and then built this monument based on the technology they had, and all this stuff, creating a gateway with this higher entity that was called Rottah.

406
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:05,000
That's not really in the Casey readings, except in a few places they mentioned Rottah's two different entities and some prayers, which we have in the book.

407
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:13,000
So then the source tells me, you have to go to the area and tell them about this.

408
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,000
Oh my god, no way.

409
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,000
I finally got draghaking and screaming into doing it.

410
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:29,000
I had a meeting with somebody, told him the whole story and he says, we get somebody in here every week who thinks they're the reincarnation of Edgar Casey.

411
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Everybody's hip to this 1998 thing and when he's going to come back, you're just another number. Get out of here kid.

412
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:42,000
But he also invited me to sell candy bars at a play they were running called Manavla Masha.

413
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:47,000
He says, well, let's just get you out in the community and see if anybody else recognizes you.

414
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:54,000
So it's a really funny story, anecdote to say, at your Casey return to the ERE and the game of jobs, delicate candy bar.

415
00:45:54,000 --> 00:46:05,000
So the last thing in the world I wanted is to be somebody else. How many Elves and personators can you mention by name?

416
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,000
It's not like this is an honorable thing for me.

417
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:23,000
The ARE did not take me seriously. In fact, this person was very belittling to me and said, well, you know, I found out through the great vine that the buzz on the inside the ARE was like, okay, we know this guy did drugs.

418
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:32,000
We know this guy swears. He's young, he's impressionable. There is no use that we can have of him being Edgar Casey reincarnated.

419
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:40,000
It doesn't do us any good because I was only like 24 years old. I mean, I was young and yet I'd read 500 books and I'd start to write about this stuff.

420
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:51,000
So in that bitterness of the betrayal from the ARE, I just got more into working with my source and the source is saying, you have to start taking clients and doing readings for other people.

421
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:56,000
And if you don't do this, you're going to lose the ability to channel.

422
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Well, I really didn't want to do that. But by July of 1998, I was in ARE. I was in Virginia Beach, Casey had a dream where he was back in Virginia Beach in 1998.

423
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,000
The prophecy had been fulfilled and I'm like, thinking, this is wonderful.

424
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:25,000
I end up starting to take clients. The second, third client I had, this woman comes in didn't say anything about herself. What's so ever, she just sat down and wanted to start the reading.

425
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:34,000
I really don't want to do that, but okay, I wake up out of the reading and she's totally in tears. She said, you're reading described exactly what's going on with my husband.

426
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:47,000
The fact that we're living in opposite ends of the house, you know, why we're fighting. What I'm going to have to do to make it better. I'm just so blown away. I can't thank you enough to the, so you know, you get to stage right.

427
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,000
But then once it started, it just happens and you just, just close through you.

428
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:59,000
So then a source is saying, well, the other part of the deal was not only do you have to do readings for people, but you have to write a book.

429
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,000
I didn't want to write a book either.

430
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:11,000
I finally got a website in February 1999. I had written up some of my preliminary research into ascension in 1998.

431
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:21,000
I got online in February 1999 and in a relatively short time laid out the case, including the photographic comparison of myself that your case is.

432
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:28,000
I started to get some interest on the internet, but I really didn't want to write a book and I didn't want to be known for that.

433
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:45,000
I got hired on in 2000 to this thing called Time A Global Shift, which was a seminar tour about ascension and I was presenting scientific information about 2012 and planetary change.

434
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:54,000
I started to have conferences and I got on art bell as I said, it was a short visit, then I had another visit again.

435
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Long story short, long comes December, May 2001, Dr. Stephen Greer, disclosure project.

436
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:07,000
I'd gotten on art bell now. I was doing these readings. I had a website. I was making all my money from taking clients.

437
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:25,000
I was barely surviving because I charged very little at the time. I'm now not doing readings anymore. That's an important thing to point out because I have demand and indation, which some people would call a happy problem, but it got to the point that so many people wanted readings I just couldn't possibly fill it.

438
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:31,000
I go to the disclosure project and I meet 39 top-secret witnesses to the UFO thing.

439
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:39,000
One of them was Sergeant Clifford Stone, who had experienced a direct encounter with extraterrestrials.

440
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:47,000
He asked him what's in it for me and they said a new world if you can take it. I remember that. That's what they've been telling me too.

441
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:57,000
By this point, I had a public presence. I didn't really talk about the reincarnation too much. I'm at this conference.

442
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:07,000
I'm meeting all these black ops guys and it starts to become clearer and clearer, the extent to which this UFO scenario is really true.

443
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:15,000
When you're in the room, I was in the May 10th briefing, which was closed executive summary for members of Congress and VIPs.

444
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:23,000
I happened to be a VIP because I was a public figure in the UFO field. Didn't have any money, it wasn't really well known, but fine.

445
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:31,000
That event really transformed me and got me my first exposure to black ops people.

446
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:41,000
One guy who had a reading, went for a one-to-write book. It didn't happen until years later that I allowed this to be done, but we finally wrote this book called The Reincarnation of Edgar Cacy.

447
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:51,000
I didn't want to give him a very good picture of me because I didn't want my face to be the car or so. They used the picture, but it had to be really small inside this little nebula.

448
00:50:51,000 --> 00:51:03,000
This book sold pretty darn well for a while. This was the third best-selling title in Frogs and Tyre, New Age, Catalog.

449
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:09,000
I went on and got more involvement with my source. I realized that I was in contact with the same source.

450
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:15,000
Now, if you think we've gone off the deep end before now, just do you wait because we're only getting started.

451
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:23,000
This source said that it is in the sixth dimension or sixth density.

452
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:35,000
At that level, we all have a higher self, which is this part of us, millions of years more evolved than we are, which travels back in time to help us get to the future.

453
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:43,000
To help us spiritually grow, because let's say that you have a future self that you're going to be and here's who you are now.

454
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,000
There's a finite number of steps that you have to make to get from here to there.

455
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:56,000
Well, the steps can't be changed, but what if it's like an accordion you can fold time so that you can make those steps in shorter amount of linear time?

456
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:02,000
That's what the higher self's job is to teach you spiritually so that you can get there faster.

457
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,000
Well, they said that they're at the sixth dimension level where the higher self is.

458
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:14,000
At that point, you have an entire planet worth of beings who have fused into one consciousness, but it's not like the board, like the nasty hive mind thing.

459
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,000
This is a positive thing where everybody's thoughts are one.

460
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:33,000
They said they originally started out on the planet Venus 1.5 billion years ago that it was like Earth and it had people like us that they evolved and they grew through fourth dimension, fifth dimension, they were now in the sixth dimensional level.

461
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:51,000
Now, there would be no reason why I would believe something so far out as this except that this data that was in this book scientifically speaking correlated with so many other things I had researched, which only came out after the material was channeled in 1981.

462
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,000
So, how is that possible unless there's something authentic happening?

463
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,000
And then I started to have personal relationships with the source. Let me tell you one very interesting story.

464
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:12,000
A woman was having UFO visitations in her apartment. She'd be lying there in bed with her husband in the middle of night and there'd be just beaming light coming in the window.

465
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,000
And entities would appear in the room, sometimes take her onboard the ship.

466
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,000
So, she found my website one have a reading.

467
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Well, what I would do at that time is I would sleep on it and I'd wake up in the morning with a dream and then do the reading and then I'd call the person that afternoon, tell him for 15 minutes, which always ended up being an hour, what the reading said, and then send him a tape in the mail.

468
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,000
So, I called her up the day after the reading. She knew when it was going to be.

469
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:50,000
And she said, did you dream anything last night? Oh, yeah. I said, yeah, I had this dream where I was stuck inside a giant cathedral.

470
00:53:50,000 --> 00:54:01,000
She starts losing it, sobbing, going crazy on the other end of the phone. I'm like, are you okay? What is going on here?

471
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:07,000
She said, last night, it happened again.

472
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:18,000
What happened? The light outside the window? Yeah.

473
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:24,000
And, well, this man showed up in the room.

474
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:31,000
And he was in a white robe with the gray hair. I know that guy.

475
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:39,000
He said, I'm going to tell you something very important. You need to write it down.

476
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:49,000
Or else you won't remember. She says, okay. He says, remember the giant cathedral.

477
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:55,000
So then I, and she just went nuts. I mean, it was crazy.

478
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,000
And so I said, okay, well, I guess this source can make house calls in certain cases.

479
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:09,000
Later on, I'm in North Carolina, visiting a friend, again, ARE person, who's very into the idea of education coming back.

480
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:22,000
And I'm out in the field meditating. And, you know, you get to a state of divine indifference where you really don't care about anything except the oneness and the peace of that moment.

481
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:35,000
I open up my eyes. And I see this disk, it's guy, right? And it goes behind a cloud and the cloud blows away and this is gone.

482
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:41,000
Now I've seen a UFO. I always wanted to see one of those. Okay.

483
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:50,000
The only other thing that I always wanted to happen that now should happen is I need to have a ball of light coming to my room and give me an intelligent message.

484
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,000
So then I kept meditating. Didn't think anything more of it.

485
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,000
Call up my father a couple days later.

486
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,000
You'll never guess who's on the other end of the telephone. I say, let me guess my brother.

487
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:08,000
Yeah. Like dad, you realize that this is psychic ability, right? Oh, yeah, your ESP thing, whatever.

488
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:17,000
I mean, you know, he, I actually did eventually prove to my dad that something was going on because he worked at a publishing office and he had this woman there.

489
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:25,000
And I didn't know anything about her. And I walked up to her, held her hand, looked in her eyes, told her her whole life story.

490
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:36,000
And I can do that. When I meet somebody new, I can go into this place and I just tell them their life story and it gets tears and it gets intense and it's really powerful.

491
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:42,000
It's the easiest time to read somebody's when you first meet him before your mind is colored with any new data.

492
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,000
So my brother is talking on the other eye, other line.

493
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:51,000
And I say, yeah, I had this really cool thing where I was out in the field meditating.

494
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:58,000
And I see this tiny little disc looking thing like a metallic thing and it went behind the cloud and the cloud blew away and it was gone.

495
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,000
And if it was an airplane, it would have kept on going, but it disappeared.

496
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:08,000
It's like, oh, I always knew there had to be UFOs. I mean, I'm sure this is real, but who cares?

497
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:13,000
The only other thing I said was that I need the ball of light to appear in my room, give me an intelligent message.

498
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:18,000
My brother goes, what did you say?

499
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:28,000
Ball of light appeared in my room, give me intelligent message. She said, oh my god. What's going on?

500
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:40,000
The other night, I was in my room and I was meditating and my head started dropping back like this and I see this ball of light appear in the room.

501
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:51,000
And it gradually lasted 10 minutes. It spread into this vortex on the ceiling that was all like different shades of luminous blue in the middle.

502
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:59,000
It was almost like lightning colored and then it just got dimmer and dimmer, but there were these layers of it like ripples on a pond.

503
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:05,000
And it formed this vortex, this cone that was going up into the air.

504
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:13,000
And then I kept watching this and it finally faded out and formed a kidney shape energy between myself and my girlfriend.

505
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:20,000
She had had insomnia and after this happened, she was able to sleep every night without any trouble.

506
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:27,000
As it was fading, I didn't really want to go away. I was in such ecstasy, I'm like, this incredible thing is happening to me.

507
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:38,000
And as it was leaving, I heard these words in my mind. And it said, the ascension that your brother is writing about will not happen all at once.

508
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:48,000
It is an experience of cosmic connection to the universe that comes in a sequence of events, increasingly uplifting and amazing.

509
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,000
You have just experienced the first of these events.

510
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,000
Wow.

511
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,000
Great.

512
00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:02,000
So it was like, the administratively found a way to get this message which changed how I was talking about ascension,

513
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,000
because I always thought of it as kind of like this big switch that was going to go off in the future.

514
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:11,000
And the law of one series, the source of all this stuff that I was studying said, 2012.

515
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:17,000
Sometime between 2011 and 2013, this was back in 1981 before people were talking about the my calendar,

516
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:22,000
or knew what the end of the my calendar was, but they gave the same time coordinates.

517
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:34,000
So, I was like, this is the first time I was talking about the my calendar.

518
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:42,000
So, I was like, this is the first time I was talking about the my calendar.

519
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:47,000
So, I was like, this is the first time I was talking about the my calendar.

520
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:52,000
So, I was like, this is the first time I was talking about the my calendar.