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The first, these are the highlights for today.

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King Charles is in Belfast.

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Queen's coffin to return to London.

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Inflation collapsed to 8.3% in August as price gains remain painfully high.

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The Navy quietly rolls back punishment for SEALs who refuse to get vaxxed.

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Memphis shooting spree suspect Ezekiel Kelly, and this reminds me of Ezekiel was one of the names of the killers in conspiracy theory.

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Ezekiel Kelly, 19, due in court following live streamed attacks, accused of shooting over seven people last week, killing over four, killing over four over a span of several hours.

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Ezekiel shot Dwayne Tunstall in the head in another friend's driveway early Wednesday before embarking on a string of shootings hours later, leaving three wounded and three dead.

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And a car bomb explodes at an Auburn, Washington funeral.

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The suspect fires shots at officials in pursuit, and he's still alive.

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Now, this is the main story which I found today, which I found exceedingly intriguing.

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Featured story.

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Out of Houston, Texas, woman arrested on charges.

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She made death threats to judge in Mar-a-Lago documents case.

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Texas woman arrested on charges.

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A Texas woman has been arrested for allegedly making death threats against Eileen Cannon.

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A judge, the judge presiding over former President Donald Trump's courtroom fight against the Justice Department over national security documents seized from his Florida resort.

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Tiffany Gish was arrested last week in the Houston area after she admitted to federal marshals that she had left three threatening voicemails for Cannon telling her she was marked for assassination and that she planned to shoot her in front of her family, a federal criminal complaint says.

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Gish also made a number of outlandish comments in the September 1st calls, saying she's in charge of nuclear for the country and has a license to kill, the court filings said.

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At one point in the voicemails, she said she's working for Trump as his hit man, while at another point she accused Trump of having orchestrated the September 11 attacks and claimed he is marked for assassination as well, they said.

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She identified herself in the calls as a federal agent named Evelyn Salt, the name of a spy character played by Angelina Jolie in the 2010 movie Salt, the filings alleged.

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U.S. Marshals were able to identify Gish as the caller by tracing her cell phone number, the criminal complaint says.

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Prosecutors say she has a history of delusional conduct and has claimed to be a CIA agent, a Navy SEAL, an Army Ranger, and someone familiar with nuclear weapons or war, all while intermixing threats to public officials such as former President Donald Trump or former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

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She also contacted the CIA several times since 2021, offering uncredible, nonsensical information related to nuclear weapons, the filings said.

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Secret Service agents spoke to Gish's mother in March, and she told them her daughter has suffered from severe bipolar disorder and is a borderline schizophrenic.

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A lawyer for Gish did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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She has been ordered held pending trial on charges of influencing a federal official by threat, one count of interstate communications with the threat to kidnap or injure.

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Gish's attorney argued she hadn't acted on any of her threats, but Magistrate Judge Peter Bray found the threats themselves to be harmful because they were designed to place the victim in fear and cause distress and apprehension.

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Gish is due in court in Houston on Tuesday for a hearing on the government's request for a mental competency exam.

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Cannon, a Trump appointee last week, granted his request to have special master review the evidence the FBI sees while executing a search warrant at his Mar-a-Lago estate last month and temporarily block parts of the Justice Department's investigation.

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Police have said the federal magistrate judge who authorized the search warrant, Bruce Reinhart, also received a number of threats from people last month, which that's warranted, unfortunately.

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Okay, here's a little scene for people who don't know what the movie Salt is.

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It's about a Russian agent, actually.

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She finds out she's a sleeper agent.

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And so she's asleep all these times.

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This lady sounds like she's MKUltra for sure.

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Yeah.

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So Angelina Jolie plays a sleeper agent that awakens, and when somebody tells her that they know that she's a Russian sleeper agent.

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And so I'll play the trailer from this.

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And our disclaimer is, do you have the disclaimer, David?

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I have the disclaimer, and we'll put that right up.

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Here it is.

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Fair use, Section 107, Copyright Act 1976, Copyright Disclaimer under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976.

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Allowance is made for fair use for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education, and research.

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Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.

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Nonprofit, educational, or personal use tips to balance in favor of fair use.

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Okay, so here we go with a little trailer from Columbia Pictures.

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If you don't, if you've never seen this movie, I encourage you, please take a look at it, because then you'll understand the significance of this story.

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I didn't get time to enhance it, so.

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We got a walk in.

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A defector.

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He's rushing it.

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Neural scan is up.

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Over.

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And she works for the CIA.

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What's your name?

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My name is Vasily Orlov.

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Nothing.

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He doesn't exist.

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Today, a Russian agent will travel to New York City to kill the president.

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This agent is K-12.

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The K-A program is a myth.

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It is a myth, by the way.

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It is a real-

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Don't you want to know the name?

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You're good.

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You can tell the rest of your story to one of my colleagues.

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The name of the agent is Evelyn Salt.

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My name is Evelyn Salt.

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Then you are a Russian spy.

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Where'd she go?

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What are you doing there?

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What are you doing?

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You're doing good.

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I'm not a Russian spy.

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On the ground!

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I'm in it then!

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Somebody is setting me up!

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Shut up!

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I'm murdering her!

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Maybe Salt is who she says she is.

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Maybe it's your department.

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What is catching her so we can find out?

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Drop it!

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Okay, so is she worth her salt?

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Interesting.

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That's my question.

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So, having heard this for the first time, I wasn't aware this was a headline today.

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So, what is her name?

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It begins with a G?

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Gish.

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Like her name Gish.

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She was an actress.

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And so, she is claiming to be a Russian spy or Evelyn Salt.

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She identified herself in the cause as a federal agent named Evelyn Salt.

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The name of a spy character played by Angelina Jolie.

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Oh my God.

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And the 2010 movie Salt, the filings alleged.

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The fact that it's in the media means that it's part of a movie script of what's going on right now in the world.

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Because it doesn't go in the media unless the story has some type of path to educating the public that it's going to eventually.

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This is a, they're planting the seed for some story.

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Otherwise, this would not be in the media.

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Everything we're experiencing right now is leading to an end result.

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So, having not fully read the story myself, I can't really comment on what I predict the end result is.

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But everything in the media right now is to affect some future narrative.

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And if it's related to Trump right now, and I think if I heard you correctly, they were linking Trump into this in some way to appear negative.

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Yes.

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Which is.

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She was, she's working for Trump as a hitman.

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Okay.

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So, then she accused Trump of having orchestrated the September 11 attacks.

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And she claimed he is marked for assassination.

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Now, we know that there have been several things.

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We have a guest coming on, Carrie Cassidy.

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Yeah.

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That talked about, I think it was, was it Juan O'Sevin, David, that said that he thought he was going to get arrested?

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Yes.

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But we know he's been marked for assassination.

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He's had over like 27 assassinations.

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Actually, it's 46 attempts.

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Wow.

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Dang.

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Okay, I lost it out like in 2019.

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Yeah, it's been 40.

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And some of them have been subsequent to his leading office.

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So, do we think that this is, one, allowing him to get into the public narrative that he has had assassination attempts?

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Or is this leading in the direction to make the tunnel jump look more compromised and more sinister?

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What is your, what is your take on the theme of the.

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Well, I just found this myself.

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Okay.

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So, when I found it, I was telling David, oh, my God.

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I was like looking for headline news and I found this.

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It's very compelling.

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It's in Texas.

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So, I am going to have to do a little bit more research on this.

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But when I looked at it, I said, MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra.

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The MKUltras are trained assassins.

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So, and they've also said she's bipolar and schizophrenic.

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So, again, MKUltras are labeled as bipolar and schizophrenic.

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So, you know, do they have her medicated?

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Where has she stayed?

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Has she been programmed?

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Are her doctors MKUltra programmers?

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Why is she, you know, what triggered her to go off and to do this?

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You know, she, she attacks a federal judge.

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And, and then the defense are like, well, you know, she didn't actually, she didn't do it.

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Really?

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Are we going to do that thing?

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She didn't do it because it was a credible threat.

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It was a very credible threat.

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You have to look and see what, okay, that's talking about a story.

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What is not said in the story that it's, that it's also bringing out, it's bringing attention.

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It seems like it's bringing attention to some, some characters that are in this storyline for some reason.

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Um, so, so, so there's always potentially a secondary aspect.

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All right.

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So I did this story about a Russian general, um, Les Sotkov.

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Um, and he suicided himself in, uh, I think it was June of this year.

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And he was also in charge of the Russian sleeper agents.

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I think that's what this is.

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Okay.

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He, when he suicided himself, he didn't say, um, goodbye, cruel world.

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Life sucks.

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Uh, you know, my health sucks.

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Uh, so, and he waited for his, his wife to go to the grocery store.

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I say probably to pick up some cheese.

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It's, I don't actually know what was on the list, but then she comes back and he's dead in the bathroom, which most suicides.

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I mean, that's also a ritual room too.

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Is this the guy who left a note about how he got the gun, how he purchased the gun?

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Well, you know that another thing could be, they're, they're referencing a very well-known movie character in this media story.

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I think where this could be leading is that we're aware that there are over, there's a hundred thousand, I reported on this, 120,000, I believe, sleeper agents from China and America that they had to pull out that were put in colleges.

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So these sleeper agents, they were, this may be bringing that narrative about sleeper agents into the mainstream media.

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Because that's not part of our narrative.

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I don't know if this is a education tool about the topic more so than it is about the actual individual story.

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But I, when I hear media stories like this, I look and see what has not come out in the media that I'm aware that is part of our reality.

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And what, who are the people that are being pointed out in this story?

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Trump's being pointed out and then also this judge.

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And the movie Salt, which is about sleeper agents.

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So when,

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That could be a con.

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When General Sotkov killed himself, Putin talked to Chi about it.

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Got it.

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So now General Sotkov was in charge of the sleeper agents program, which actually led to Snowden at one point because the Russian, one of the Russian sleeper agents that was in D.C. then gets deported.

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And then she tweets out to Snowden, they were going to honeypot Snowden with her.

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Snowden, will you marry me?

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Now she's back in Russia.

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So what I considered that, that suicide was instrumental in activating the Russian and the Chinese agents, sleeper agents.

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Interesting.

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And then we also talked about the Russian suitcase nukes, which they said there were like a hundred missing.

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But in actuality, my intel told me more like 200.

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We don't actually know.

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So these sleeper agents are, are active.

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I believe that that was the activation because the guy, why, why not just die peacefully?

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Why kill himself?

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He killed himself, I believe, to signal because this was after essentially World War III starts with Russia and Ukraine.

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Right.

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So then he, he activates the sleeper program by his suicide, which was pre-planned years and years ago.

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And, and then he talks about the gun that he killed himself with, which was actually provided to him when he was secret service for not in, not in China, but a country adjacent to China.

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I can't recall what it was, but so that he talks about the gun that he used to kill himself, which I was like, well, is that, and then we also have all the Russian generals, et cetera.

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That have been, and the gas palm people that have all been suicided, which I have information on that as well.

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So I, you know, that I talk about the military industrial entertainment complex, and we know that the CIA is behind the military industrial entertainment complex.

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And there are leaking out strategized military intel within these movies, within every single movie, there's overt and overt messages, which are presented.

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So when I saw this, I was like, what?

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She called herself Evelyn Salt, which the premise of Evelyn Salt was that she was a sleeper agent, which I found out that I was a sleeper agent, but I didn't know it either.

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And I woke, you know, and when I awoke, I was told, if you leave, if you leave me, you're going to end up homeless, in jail, in a crazy house.

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And I was like, is it illegal to divorce you in California?

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Because then fine, I won't divorce you.

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I identify with your story, with your background in Hollywood and my background in Hollywood.

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I did a show with Michael Jaco, and I indicated that I was trying to reverse engineer my life, where I thought my father was possibly a former CIA agent, in that because what had happened is he used to come home from work every day and watch the Gong Show from lunch.

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The Gong Show was Chuck Barris was a former CIA agent.

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So what we alluded to was that they were doing comms on the Chuck Barris show, by whatever he would do in his show.

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Why would my dad drive across town to come home?

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And also, I know that my grooming was CIA grooming.

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They drugged me with cell asylum, all this stuff that has come out later about, you know, the grooming programs for agents.

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And this is kind of where I'm having to reverse engineer my life.

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All of these things that you talk about, that other people talk about, that happen after you trauma.

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You put a child into a trauma-based program of MKUltra, which wasn't able to stick on me, that I'm aware of.

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But I think that all of my siblings and myself were brought into, were groomed for some type of potential use in the future and some type of programs is why we're on two different parts, two different roles.

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And this is why I have recently come to a conclusion that I'm not so sure that, because I know where we're going and what's happening and how a lot of celebrities are going to be forgiven, a lot of politicians are going to be forgiven, and we're going to move into a new future as if though nothing ever happened in many ways until we see it happens.

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I think that there are a lot of, whether you call them sleeper agents or whether you call them indoctrinated for future intelligence programs people, I think that the Chinese that came over from the students, they were allegedly programmed so that whenever they were activated, they would come out when the new world order started and assist, but there would be a surprise attack.

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I think in my personal experience, and I don't know your personal experiences, it was basically to be able to use in some kind of capacity, whether it was being next to globalists or being next to something in some kind of capacity.

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I had one of my military people who announced what this program was, and he was trying to tell me, I think, so that I would investigate my own life.

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I'm going to go back and ask him.

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He gave me a title for what these, this level of people are.

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So, if it's being revealed in the media, maybe it's an intention to get people talking about it, to get people doing comms, to create more awareness, to bring some attention to Trump being more of a victim, or something's in there.

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There's some type of message.

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For people that don't know, I'm going to just read this because I know that you know, because you're who you are.

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But many people don't know, older people that remember the Gong Show.

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In 1984, Barris wrote an autobiography, Confessions of the Dangerous Mind.

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So, this is, we're talking about Chuck Barris, Charles Hirsch Barris, who was the Gong Show.

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He also, he was American Game Show creator, producer, and host who was known for hosting the Gong Show, creating the Dating Game, which I was actually on one episode.

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Oh, nice.

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And the new, the Dating Game?

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Yes.

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I did get picked because I said Elvis tried to date me, and they didn't like that.

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I love it.

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He was a legend guy.

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He stood me up, and they didn't pick me because they thought I was weird.

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But I thought I am weird, right?

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We are weird.

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Right?

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So, he did the Dating Game and the Newlywed Game.

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He was also a songwriter that wrote Palisades Park, recorded by Freddie Cannon, recorded by the Ramones.

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He wrote an autobiography entitled Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, which is made to the film of the same name, directed by George Clooney.

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If you haven't seen that, I'm going to ask you, please take a look at this, because we're not saying, when we're saying this, it's not like, you know, oh, yeah, he was a CIA agent.

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Okay, here's his career claims.

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In 1984, he wrote an autobiography, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind.

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In the book, he states he worked for the CIA as an assassin in the 1960s and the 1970s.

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The 202 feature film version, directed by George Clooney and starring Sam Rockwell, depicts Barris killing 33 people, of course.

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Barris wrote a sequel to Confessions of a Dangerous Mind in 2004 called Bad Grass Never Dies.

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The CIA denied Barris ever worked for them in any capacity.

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Sure, they did.

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After the release of the movie, CIA spokesman Paul Nowak said Barris' assertions that he worked for a spy agent are ridiculous and absolutely not true.

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In an interview on NBC's Today Show in 1984, Barris admitted to having made the story up, because it probably came to him and said, we're going to kill you, Barris.

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So he said, no, I never was a CIA hitman.

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I never did those things.

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I once applied for the CIA, meaning that he was already groomed for the CIA.

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And while I was going through the process, I got a job and went on television because the television hosts and game show hosts and talk show hosts are CIA.

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They're deep state CIA handlers.

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But I always wondered what would happen if I'd done both.

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In an interview in 2010 with the Television Academy Foundation, he was asked if he ever disclosed the truth to anyone, including his wife.

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No, never, Barris said.

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I'll never say one way or the other.

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Well, that was I enjoyed that movie, but it was it was interesting how, as you probably have done, as I'm doing now, going back with all this new information we have and looking at our life with a different perspective.

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And it's helping to to to put things together in a certain way to understand why I had so much trauma in my life.

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You know, you know, you know, I think that is part of their path and I've had an unusual amount of trauma in high school.

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I was taken I was picked up by some friends and given a ride.

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They said they were friends of someone that I knew was giving me a ride, but they took me to a bridge and held me over the bridge by my feet.

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You know, what's the purpose in that?

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This is trauma.

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And then and then I mean, a Rothschild within within a month after that, who becomes my friend, a guy named Norman Rothschild in Columbus, Georgia.

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He's an older man.

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And he starts and starts inviting kind of trying to be a mentor in my life.

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He's older.

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I mean, invites me over to his house.

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He starts having these nice dinners, you know, wine.

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And and it's like he is grooming me for to be able to be comfortable in another setting.

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So I have been as first time I've told this story right now is about this Rothschild coming into my life.

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This is why I'm able to put all this stuff together.

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And hindsight, you know, well, we I've had some experiences that I think that I know handlers were places in my life.

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But it means they wiretap phones and it means that the Postal Service is part of the CIA because the things that have happened to me have been directly linked to mail that I have gotten.

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And it would it would have to have had a someone in the Postal Department to be the witness.

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So this was my suspect that that what what better place would the post office be?

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They know exactly where your mail comes from, who you're interacting with, your postal carrier.

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I think postal carriers in some aspects have been agents for intelligence agents, because when I backtrack my life, the handlers that came in my life would have to have been.

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And because I was matched up with another handler who was the producer of Marilyn Monroe's last film before she died.

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His name was Henry Weinstein.

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He was the producer who fired her from the last movie.

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Something's got to give.

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Oh, yeah.

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You can go back and Google him.

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But it's not Harvey Weinstein.

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Henry Weinstein.

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OK.

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But are they related?

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I don't know.

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That's a good question.

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But he was 29 years old when he was the producer of Something's Got to Give.

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And in 1985, through the mail, somehow we did an interaction.

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I don't know if it was for a mentoring program in L.A. that I responded to an ad.

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He ended up inviting me to go to Washington, D.C.

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I went out to L.A. and met him.

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He was with with Catherine Hepburn and with some other Hollywood people he introduced me to.

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He took me to the very first Cirque du Soleil.

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This was like in 85.

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But he also took me to Washington, D.C., to the Watergate Hotel to have lunch.

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And I think I was being inspected because none of this makes sense.

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So these weird experiences that I have not talked about that I'm saving, you don't talk about these things in your normal life until now when I'm realizing that this trauma that I was probably trying to be groomed into some type of intelligence program from childhood, from the molestation, the trauma.

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And so your story today of you getting that news, this is kind of spontaneous.

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We're not planning for this.

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It's kind of interesting because this is revealing more layers.

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And I think people like you and myself, we're probably catalysts for helping other people discover their lives and wake up and break their programming.

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So by our talking about this, we might have an opportunity to to let other people put together aspects of their life that can help them heal because I'm still healing, you know, discovering.

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That's the whole premise of, you know, why we're here.

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And I want to let people know that Alan's going to be a regular.

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Today is going to be a little bit of a short day because because David has something that he has to showcase right after this.

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But, you know, you're this is going to be a regular spot for you.

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You'll have full hour and then, you know, we'll be able to disclose more things.

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And then as I bring you on, because I like bringing you on every once in a while when I have some stuff that I'd like to discuss, because I know that you understand Hollywood with some very huge, huge, huge stars.

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And they just basically put me in the background, you know, as an agent.

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And Kathy O'Brien, who we had on yesterday, she was right in the foreground.

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And, you know, I've started to read her book and find out more stuff about her, which is congruent with me.

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So I'm hoping that at some point she will decide that she wants to be a regular on the Dark Outpost as well, because I believe that people need to hear what she has to say.

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A lot of people contacted me.

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They're like, hey, how could I get in touch with her?

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So, you know, I'm hoping that she she does decide that she wants to.

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I know she's very busy.

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So, you know, I'm praying that she does decide that she wants to come on as a regular.

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You know, my motivation for for being in the public eye is basically as an impetus to help other people discover their life and also to heal and also to be aware and also for my advocacy for the children.

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And so this is kind of why talking about the celebrity aspects was was another topic.

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I'm kind of upset and disappointed to see all these celebrities right now that are coming back into the domain, like Oprah and Gail doing their book clubs and Katy Perry this morning on the Drew, Drew Barish.

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All these things as if nothing has ever happened.

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You know, this is going to make a lot of usual for them.

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You know, as usual, this is why I'm pivoting.

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And we had that conversation about pivoting in our in our movement is that we have to go back to being a feet to the ground lobbyist doing I'm doing my child lobbyist organization to make things happen in reality.

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I do know that people are upset that people are mourning over the queen and that they don't know the true story of the queen and that our politicians are not telling the true story of the queen.

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And I've talked to my military contacts, and this is probably going to be how it goes into the very near future, is that we're going to be diplomatic.

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So if people are wanting to have transparency, it's going to be up to us as advocates, activists to make that happen, because even though the Q17 operation was authentic information warfare, it's going to be covered up.

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It's not going to be it's not going to come out and take ownership.

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That's why the people that are in this Q movement, they need to all come together and become a citizen lobbyist organization to impact their needs of what they want to see happen in the government.

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You have to realize the people, even President Trump and these people that are higher up, these are their friends and relatives, you know, these are their friends and relatives.

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There has been a power shift take place from an evil, evil regime to a another power regime.

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You know, we're watching like the daughters of the president's Tiffany, who is Marla Maple's daughter with Donald Trump's Tiffany.

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Yeah.

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And Naomi Biden, they went to school together.

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They're their best buds and the public doesn't know any of this.

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I didn't know it until I did some research.

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So I encourage everyone, please, you know, do research, listen to some of the stuff that we say.

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But, you know, I just give the news and tell you what's going on.

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And it's up to you, the, you know, the listener to go ahead and do further research on it as it pertains to your life, because these things do pertain to everyone's life.

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Yeah, I do.

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I do believe like, for instance, one thing that was very difficult for me.

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I love the Trump family and I love what they're doing.

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But we have Donald Trump Jr. is now the boyfriend of Gavin Newsom's ex-wife.

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That's right.

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How do you execute your daughter-in-law's future former husband?

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It's not going to happen.

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So this is why, take this information.

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The Q operation was necessary in order to empower the public.

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But we have to come together.

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They're going to whitewash this Q.

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General Flynn is out there acting like he knows nothing about it, that it's some government psychological operation.

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I know nothing.

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Yeah, he knows nothing.

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Yeah, he knows nothing.

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So we have to take our power and not let it be in vain.

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And we have to use it to be, we have to be an elite body.

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The 60 million survivors plus the 300 million citizens, you know, or say the tens of millions of QFOs now need to be a lobbyist organization for the people.

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Well, unfortunately, we have to leave it there for right now because we have another guest coming up, Alan.

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But we'll see you again next week, I believe, on a regular basis.

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Alan, you're our regular contributor now.

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So I promise we'll talk to you again next week.

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Thank you for your brilliant insights.

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Again, Georgia Families for Justice.

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That's G4, G the number four, families for justice.com.

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Isn't that the correct?

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G, the number four, J-U-S-T-I-C-E.com or Alan Fountain, Peddergate Whistleblower on Google.

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Thank you.

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Very good.

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Thank you so much.

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Talk to you next week, Alan.

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Appreciate it.

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All right.

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That's Alan Fountain, Georgia Families for Justice.

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We'll bring him back again next week.

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Joining us now is Daniel Satchkoff, and he is one of the creators of something we really are excited to tell you about today.

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For those of you who are involved in social media, as, of course, we are here on the Dark Outpost, there's a lot of social media out there, but they censor you or they shadow ban you.

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They try to prevent you from getting your message out there, from being able to communicate with others.

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Well, there's a brand new social media platform out there called Bastion, which kind of operates on a little bit of a different system.

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It even works when the Internet goes down.

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And I'm now a part of it, and I want to bring in one of the creators of that, Daniel Satchkoff, into the mix here.

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Daniel, welcome to the program.

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Thanks for being with us.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, David.

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Thank you, Penny.

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Hi, everyone.

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Glad to have you.

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So tell us a little bit, how did Bastion get started?

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What was the impetus to get this new social media platform started?

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Well, the impetus was actually started years ago, because in my mind, looking at where things are going, I feel like the wave of censorship and kind of blocks and outages is really not going to stop, even where we are today.

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We're sort of like in the middle of the journey, maybe even toward the beginning.

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So my kind of mind was always looking at what's the next step.

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I mean, it's not going to end up being I ban this person or ban that person, because that's not very useful.

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Right.

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It's like a leaky bucket.

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You have to actually plug everything and you have to stop the information flow.

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So Bastion was started with the idea that this will get much more extreme and it will get more extreme, both in the sense of banning people off of YouTube or whatever, but also in the sense of deplatforming financially, in the sense of possibly restricting Internet in some way.

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And since we started like around 2017, we've done a lot of work.

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We picked a completely different foundation.

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So like what's called a Web 3.0 foundation, as opposed to just starting another freedom oriented service.

423
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:12,140
There are quite a few of them.

424
00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:13,980
I think there are many of them are great.

425
00:37:13,980 --> 00:37:18,160
So this is not a competition type of situation necessarily.

426
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:27,540
But we thought about a scenario where, OK, we're living under extreme censorship where we need a project that's more like Bitcoin, for example, that is open source.

427
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,840
That's not corporate.

428
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,460
It has no bank accounts, has no CEO, has no centralized computers.

429
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,200
You know, that's what Bastion is.

430
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:42,200
It has not there's no centralized server that you can say, well, shut this down because it runs on computers, computers around the world.

431
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,280
There are hundreds of them at this point and there will be thousands.

432
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:53,500
So as long as there's some people in the world running Bastion, you should be able to connect to them and actually use the use the platform.

433
00:37:53,940 --> 00:37:57,420
Right. And it's got micro blogging, long blogs, video.

434
00:37:57,980 --> 00:37:59,200
It has an encrypted chat.

435
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,180
So it has a lot of the features you used to.

436
00:38:01,260 --> 00:38:03,400
But the core of it is completely different.

437
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,200
So we're thinking about a few situations.

438
00:38:06,980 --> 00:38:09,460
So, first of all, it's anonymous or pseudonymous.

439
00:38:09,460 --> 00:38:11,640
Rather, you don't provide personal identity.

440
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:13,760
We feel like that is really, really important.

441
00:38:14,180 --> 00:38:22,640
People underestimate the degree of threat they expose themselves to when they use their identity on on corporate social media.

442
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:31,920
And they use they use it to divulge their preferences, to comment, because essentially every user on those platforms has their own neural network built for them.

443
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,640
So they have their own psychological profile that is very that's very dangerous.

444
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,860
It can be used to manipulate, manipulate you.

445
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,220
It can also be used to to flag you in some sense.

446
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,000
Right. Put you on some list or something.

447
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,240
So Bastion is pseudonymous.

448
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,880
It is not linked to the identity.

449
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:55,460
Also, we believe that the censorship will get worse in the sense that we'll see servers being shut down.

450
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,080
We'll see bank account.

451
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,180
I mean, we're already seeing that.

452
00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:58,780
Right. We're not.

453
00:38:59,140 --> 00:38:59,540
Yeah.

454
00:39:00,420 --> 00:39:00,720
Yeah.

455
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:02,260
So accounts frozen.

456
00:39:02,260 --> 00:39:07,340
I mean, your social credit scores messed with.

457
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,000
I mean, it's it's pretty bad right now that people can't get their message out.

458
00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:12,340
Yeah.

459
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,260
And my worry and I would be happy if Bastion was not needed in the world.

460
00:39:17,580 --> 00:39:19,080
I have plenty of other things to do.

461
00:39:19,540 --> 00:39:20,240
I love my books.

462
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,060
I love my math.

463
00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:28,240
But I feel like we owe it to to ourselves and to our kids to have a platform of communication when things get get worse.

464
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,180
So when you mentioned that Bastion works when Internet is down, let me clarify.

465
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,100
Like if all of the Internet is shut down worldwide, then nothing, of course, works.

466
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:37,960
Not even Bastion.

467
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:47,620
But generally what we what we see in our hypothesis and it was actually proven that in in the situation kind of an emergency or whatever is going to happen, we don't know.

468
00:39:47,740 --> 00:39:49,900
We don't have the initiative in this situation.

469
00:39:50,180 --> 00:39:51,620
We don't know what's going to happen.

470
00:39:51,620 --> 00:39:59,740
But in that situation, Internet can go down in the sense that the DNS does not work, meaning that you type in any Web site and it doesn't work.

471
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:03,720
So remember that Facebook, Instagram outage like a year ago or something.

472
00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:04,240
Yeah.

473
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,700
Part of the Internet was not working.

474
00:40:05,820 --> 00:40:07,240
Now, Internet itself was fine.

475
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:18,480
It was the DNS that wasn't working, but the DNS effectively ruins information flow for most people because you don't know the IP addresses and they can be blocked and so on.

476
00:40:19,180 --> 00:40:21,040
Bastion and it's with a Y.

477
00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:22,560
I have a short to help you remember.

478
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,700
You can go and register.

479
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,100
It takes like a few seconds.

480
00:40:25,220 --> 00:40:26,440
There's no identity check.

481
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,220
It has a desktop app.

482
00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:37,780
So when Bastion.com is down, the desktop app is a application on your computer that will connect to different people around the world running the software.

483
00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:40,380
So we'll find a private network.

484
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,520
Exactly.

485
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:42,120
Exactly.

486
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,920
It's like it's like a private network.

487
00:40:44,020 --> 00:40:45,080
That's a very good analogy.

488
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,480
So you as a user, you log on to Bastion and you can connect it.

489
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:51,220
So most of the Internet could be down, but you'll be fine.

490
00:40:51,340 --> 00:40:52,300
There was an example.

491
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:57,360
If you remember, there's a country called Kazakhstan, incidentally, where I was born, actually.

492
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,540
There was a kind of a revolution there about, I don't know, what is it, 10 months ago?

493
00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:03,120
I don't remember.

494
00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:07,620
But at the time, the government shut down Internet to stop the information flow.

495
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:11,580
And we have videos from users that the Bastion desktop app worked.

496
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:12,880
Literally nothing worked.

497
00:41:13,460 --> 00:41:15,140
You had state TV that was working.

498
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,160
Internet did not work at all, not even like Facebook.

499
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,680
But Bastion desktop app worked and so people could get access to the information.

500
00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:27,560
So you should ask yourself, and this is great that we have a variety of freedom-oriented services.

501
00:41:27,740 --> 00:41:28,700
I think that's very healthy.

502
00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:31,200
It's much harder to go after all of them.

503
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:37,200
But in a situation that we're heading toward, I fear, think about this.

504
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:42,560
What will happen to you if you don't have access to information about what goes on in your own hometown?

505
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,340
Like you look out the window, you don't really know what is going on because most of the Internet is down.

506
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,200
Now, it could be like a hacker attack, right?

507
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,280
It could be anything.

508
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:52,940
Oh, yeah.

509
00:41:53,060 --> 00:41:53,440
You can call it anything.

510
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,240
And all of a sudden, without access to the information, you're pretty helpless.

511
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,700
And that's why Bastion desktop app is really important.

512
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:02,160
Now, there's mobile apps as well.

513
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,880
But, you know, mobile phones are devices that are essentially controlled, right?

514
00:42:06,220 --> 00:42:08,800
There's no censorship resistance on the mobile phone per se.

515
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,680
But on your computer, yeah?

516
00:42:10,940 --> 00:42:11,120
Sorry?

517
00:42:11,740 --> 00:42:18,540
No, as you're saying, in many cases, people don't realize that mobile phones can easily be compromised.

518
00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:39,880
And if all of these networks, 5G, 4G, whatever it is, goes down, you know, when I think Bastion, if I got you correct, it's like saying you have a private connection, like a walkie-talkie or satellite phone type connection with Bastion, where you don't have to depend on 5G.

519
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,740
You don't have to depend on the DNS numbers.

520
00:42:42,860 --> 00:42:44,020
You can get through to people.

521
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:50,360
As long as there's a network of people connected with their Bastion app, you can get through to them.

522
00:42:50,780 --> 00:42:52,280
Yeah, if there are nodes working.

523
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,380
I mean, you do need some internet to work.

524
00:42:54,380 --> 00:42:58,980
So you still need the pipes, communication pipes to work.

525
00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:06,480
But I assure you that in most scenarios, I do not believe that all of the internet will go down because that will be utter...

526
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,340
Then nobody can predict what will happen.

527
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:10,600
I don't think it's in anybody's...

528
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:21,380
Nobody would, you know, nobody would shut everything down because all communications, even for the powers that ought not to be, they all depend on internet too.

529
00:43:21,380 --> 00:43:27,280
They just want to shut down the internet that we're on right now, that you and I are speaking, people are watching.

530
00:43:27,380 --> 00:43:28,500
That's what should go down.

531
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,320
Their communication will work.

532
00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:33,020
But Bastion, in a sense, works on a much lower level.

533
00:43:33,540 --> 00:43:34,260
And there's constantly...

534
00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:35,380
There's actually over...

535
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,500
There's like 28 developers now.

536
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,360
I'm not a developer.

537
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,480
I'm actually a math geek.

538
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:43,120
And I really designed this thing.

539
00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:50,920
And I think my achievement was designing it, of course, but more importantly, inspiring some really good programmers to work on it.

540
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,980
Because it's not a corporate project that didn't take any VC money.

541
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,000
So it's not beholden to any corporate board, in other words.

542
00:43:58,180 --> 00:43:59,560
It has no bank accounts.

543
00:43:59,660 --> 00:44:00,600
It has no servers.

544
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,700
It's just a team of people around the world.

545
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,920
You know, just like Bitcoin, in some sense.

546
00:44:05,060 --> 00:44:06,940
That was kind of our inspiration.

547
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,700
It's like the Bitcoin of communication.

548
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,060
Sorry?

549
00:44:12,820 --> 00:44:15,160
It's like the Bitcoin of communication.

550
00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:15,940
Exactly.

551
00:44:15,940 --> 00:44:19,680
We called it every once in a while, Bitcoin of social media.

552
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,180
We just didn't want to...

553
00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:24,060
You know, Bitcoin is a great technology, amazing technology.

554
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,600
It's got, you know, conflagrated with some speculation and so on.

555
00:44:28,660 --> 00:44:32,120
So when we try to avoid that, because we're about the technology.

556
00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:34,320
But Bitcoin, the technology, absolutely.

557
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
It is the way for decentralized communication.

558
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:46,180
So how do people get this desktop app on their computer?

559
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,780
Does it work with...

560
00:44:47,780 --> 00:44:48,940
Is it Windows-based?

561
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,780
Does it work with Mac computers as well?

562
00:44:50,780 --> 00:44:52,440
It's got Mac and Linux versions.

563
00:44:52,820 --> 00:44:55,240
You go to bastion.com, you sign up.

564
00:44:55,580 --> 00:44:58,780
And within like a minute, you will get a banner that will say,

565
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,200
look, the safest way, the most censorship-resistant way is for you to download the app.

566
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,400
And then you download the app.

567
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,680
And you're right.

568
00:45:05,820 --> 00:45:08,480
And I did that on my computers.

569
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:09,500
It works great.

570
00:45:09,580 --> 00:45:10,380
It's easy to sign up.

571
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:10,820
And you're right.

572
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:12,100
They don't take any of your...

573
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:14,160
They don't ask you any personal questions.

574
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,020
Nothing like that.

575
00:45:16,140 --> 00:45:16,500
You don't...

576
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:19,120
And they assign you...

577
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,380
I think it's like a number.

578
00:45:20,540 --> 00:45:25,540
It's like a code, which you hold on to, which acts as your identifier.

579
00:45:26,060 --> 00:45:28,160
And you can also put this on your phone, right?

580
00:45:28,940 --> 00:45:29,500
That's right.

581
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,160
There are apps.

582
00:45:30,220 --> 00:45:31,260
There's an Android app.

583
00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:38,060
Apple is more difficult because they're basically a highly censoring organization.

584
00:45:38,420 --> 00:45:40,060
We're trying to come to some compromise.

585
00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:42,220
So at least we get the app in the hands of users.

586
00:45:42,220 --> 00:45:43,400
But it's not so easy.

587
00:45:43,940 --> 00:45:47,120
Google also removed the app from the Play Store some time ago.

588
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:47,960
Then they put it back.

589
00:45:48,020 --> 00:45:48,740
We don't know why.

590
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,080
But there are mobile apps as well.

591
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,980
So you can use it on the mobile.

592
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:54,920
Just the desktop.

593
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,560
Remember, this is for a situation where some...

594
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,420
There are problems, right?

595
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:01,580
Internet is down.

596
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:02,520
Banks don't open.

597
00:46:02,780 --> 00:46:03,120
Whatever.

598
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:06,000
So the best way to use it is on your desktop.

599
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,240
Yeah.

600
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:11,060
I mean, we realize that today most people use everything on their phone.

601
00:46:11,180 --> 00:46:14,260
So the mobile experience, we feel like, is very good.

602
00:46:14,460 --> 00:46:16,760
The developers have gotten very good at it.

603
00:46:16,780 --> 00:46:18,200
You can use it in the browser too.

604
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,600
Like bastion.com, you could use on the mobile phone in the browser or the app.

605
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,620
Like on iPhone, you could use it in Safari.

606
00:46:25,060 --> 00:46:26,520
It's optimized for that.

607
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:30,340
But even if you do, make sure that you have your desktop app.

608
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:37,340
Because there may come a time where your phone is not going to give you the information that you need to even survive.

609
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:40,100
And tell us a little bit about the interface.

610
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:49,540
When you get into the app, when you have it on your desktop, it looks a lot like a regular social media platform.

611
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,680
There's different people you can follow and connect with.

612
00:46:52,860 --> 00:46:54,060
And tell us a little bit about it.

613
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:54,840
Yeah.

614
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,160
If we use analogies, it's maybe a mix.

615
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,040
It's a mix of different functionalities.

616
00:47:01,180 --> 00:47:02,200
Like microblogging.

617
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,720
Like Twitter is very popular.

618
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:04,840
But there's also video.

619
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,540
There's a video component that's very important to bastion that's growing.

620
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,420
There's a lot of work done on decentralized open source video.

621
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:16,920
It also has long blogs, kind of like medium.

622
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:21,920
So we realized that innovation of bastion is not in a completely new interface.

623
00:47:22,020 --> 00:47:25,660
Though I think the interface developers are trying really hard.

624
00:47:26,340 --> 00:47:30,960
And designers, enthusiasts are working really hard to improve it and make it really, really good.

625
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,200
But the main thing about this is an engineering invention rather than aesthetic one.

626
00:47:36,260 --> 00:47:38,840
Because we have a lot of social media like TikTok, right?

627
00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:50,220
That's essentially kind of a spying service that collects every bit of data, even more than, say, Facebook on you.

628
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:52,680
But they've developed like a new interface.

629
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,740
In bastion, there's something like that.

630
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,660
But the core proposition of bastion, why you want to get it, is that you're not identified personally.

631
00:47:59,660 --> 00:48:01,300
You can open multiple accounts.

632
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,620
This private key that you mentioned, there's a private key.

633
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:06,620
It's your secret number.

634
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,940
It's actually usually not a number, but it's like 12 words.

635
00:48:10,220 --> 00:48:10,340
Sure.

636
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:11,920
You have to write it down.

637
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,080
You have to memorize it.

638
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:15,500
Because if you lose it, nobody can recover it for you.

639
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:16,760
This is not Google.

640
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,640
Like developers don't have access to your account anyway.

641
00:48:20,380 --> 00:48:21,440
So you have to keep it.

642
00:48:21,540 --> 00:48:23,220
But at the same time, it's yours.

643
00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:31,500
And it's not going to be like when some central server gets hacked, it's not going to be among the millions of passwords that get hacked routinely, right?

644
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,180
We know that.

645
00:48:32,780 --> 00:48:37,580
Centralized web, which people call web 2.0, is highly insecure.

646
00:48:38,140 --> 00:48:44,660
People think that because it's with Google or somebody in these big servers and there's a lot of security, that it's somehow secure.

647
00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:45,680
That's not true.

648
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,140
So, you know, any server, there's always a human element.

649
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,640
There's a social engineering element.

650
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,740
They will get your information out because it's like a goldmine.

651
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,500
It's like a Fort Knox of information because it's centralized.

652
00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:02,500
Whereas with Bastion, every private key resides with a different person.

653
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:09,640
You may not have your own Fort Knox of computer security, but look, for them to hack a million people, that's impossible.

654
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:13,180
They're not going to hack a million separate computers.

655
00:49:13,180 --> 00:49:17,820
So, in that sense, that's another dimension why Bastion is very important.

656
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:18,980
It's much more secure.

657
00:49:19,820 --> 00:49:27,880
And I feel like we're entering an age where, I already said, unfortunately, I think there'll be disruptions with information.

658
00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:31,320
And there can be blatant hackers.

659
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:37,780
I mean, quite frankly, hackers, whatever, whoever they are, will play some role, I think, because that's such an easy culprit.

660
00:49:37,780 --> 00:49:50,200
Now, I'm assuming that you don't have any fact checkers or anyone on there who's monitoring your posts and will try to censor you or delete something, right?

661
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,880
That's a very important point.

662
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:58,080
In fact, it's not correct to say that Bastion is completely censorship-free because you would degenerate very quickly.

663
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,120
There are types of content that is strictly prohibited.

664
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:01,980
They're very simple.

665
00:50:02,140 --> 00:50:03,820
It's not like vague hate speech.

666
00:50:03,820 --> 00:50:09,500
You know, it's pornography of any kind, it's direct threat of violence, and it's illegal narcotics.

667
00:50:09,660 --> 00:50:14,600
Those three things are completely forbidden, but they're moderated by users themselves.

668
00:50:14,780 --> 00:50:20,900
If you're a user on Bastion for like a year and use it actively, eventually you get a status of moderator.

669
00:50:21,660 --> 00:50:29,060
And when a lot of moderators agree that this is clearly that kind of content, then they can remove content.

670
00:50:29,060 --> 00:50:31,080
But it's a very high bar.

671
00:50:31,220 --> 00:50:34,960
It usually has to be clear cut, and many people have to agree.

672
00:50:35,140 --> 00:50:41,560
And in fact, the developers are now working on an algorithm that will come out soon that's even more sophisticated.

673
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,520
It's called Decentralized Jury System.

674
00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:48,680
So right now, the moderators vote for content that's not allowed.

675
00:50:48,780 --> 00:50:50,360
Very simple, three kinds of content.

676
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,200
But in the next version, moderators are not even going to choose who they moderate.

677
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,100
There's going to be a lottery on the blockchain.

678
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:58,540
There's a blockchain behind it.

679
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:04,320
And a moderator will be chosen like a jury, like a jury duty.

680
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:11,260
And then they can come or not come, but they can't say, I'm going to vote on this case because there may be biased.

681
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,020
They're going to be picked randomly.

682
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:25,900
And so at that point, it's going to be even harder to remove permitted content, whereas the content that's not permitted is removed regularly from the platform.

683
00:51:26,060 --> 00:51:30,340
We have people who try to attack it, and it's removed pretty swiftly.

684
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:38,500
Tell us a little bit about there's something called pocket coin associated with Bastion.

685
00:51:38,620 --> 00:51:39,480
What's that all about?

686
00:51:40,020 --> 00:51:40,800
This is important.

687
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,220
Well, this is, by analogy, the Bitcoin of Bastion.

688
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,160
And the reason it's called pocket coin is because Bastion's original name was Pocketnet.

689
00:51:49,980 --> 00:51:56,160
But we renamed it to Bastion on many requests to make something more kind of symbolic and simple.

690
00:51:56,900 --> 00:52:04,320
But pocket coin's idea, the cryptocurrency in the platform is there to protect everybody from financial censorship.

691
00:52:05,140 --> 00:52:08,000
And that's why we feel like Bastion is such a versatile project.

692
00:52:08,140 --> 00:52:10,140
It doesn't solve one problem, right?

693
00:52:10,140 --> 00:52:13,380
It's not just, well, you can post videos that you can't post on YouTube.

694
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,640
Yes, that is true, but it's got other dimensions.

695
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:17,400
It's anonymous.

696
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,820
It's basically robust.

697
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,220
It will survive in tough situations.

698
00:52:22,220 --> 00:52:25,380
But also, it withstands financial censorship.

699
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:25,720
Why?

700
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:33,240
Because there's an internal token called pocket coin and it is used in the system, for example, to advertise.

701
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:40,780
Not a lot of people know that because it came out recently, but you can actually move up content in Bastion using pocket coin.

702
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,140
Now, why is that coin even there?

703
00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:43,780
What is there?

704
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,480
Because people need to earn, like, for example, bloggers, right?

705
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,200
Authors.

706
00:52:48,820 --> 00:52:51,560
Before I started doing this, I thought it was a very easy job.

707
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,360
Like, you sit there and you just speak.

708
00:52:54,080 --> 00:53:01,760
But what I realized after dealing with a number of very prominent bloggers is that their job is like, it's really horrible.

709
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,180
I mean, it's like they spend, just to record one video, they spend hours of research.

710
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:07,520
I'm talking about the good bloggers.

711
00:53:07,740 --> 00:53:09,300
So it's a very difficult job.

712
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,480
So the blogger, the author, has to eat.

713
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,540
They can't just go to work and then put out good content.

714
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,320
It's really, it's not possible.

715
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:27,160
So then if we, if Bastion was just another freedom platform, we would kind of open up PayPal or bank account and compensate them that way.

716
00:53:27,340 --> 00:53:30,080
But remember, those would be closed very quickly.

717
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:36,180
So PocketCoin is used to compensate authors and it's a decentralized token.

718
00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:38,500
It's traded on cryptocurrency exchanges.

719
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,120
So it's a decentralized economy.

720
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:45,140
Same thing for servers that are around the world that run the network.

721
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,080
They have to get compensated, right?

722
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:51,040
The hundreds of people, they expand electricity, internet connection, hardware.

723
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,740
So they get compensated with this PocketCoin.

724
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,820
Developers, they write code.

725
00:53:55,940 --> 00:53:56,760
They don't make money.

726
00:53:56,860 --> 00:53:57,580
There's no bank.

727
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,560
There's no corporation.

728
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:09,180
So PocketCoin is actually a thing that is really make, defending Bastion from financial censorship and everybody who adds value like yourself and many other people.

729
00:54:09,180 --> 00:54:16,360
How many users do you estimate are currently making use of the Bastion platform?

730
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,080
How many users do you have so far?

731
00:54:18,460 --> 00:54:20,680
So I have two data sources on that.

732
00:54:20,780 --> 00:54:24,160
We can see the registration because there's a blockchain.

733
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,660
These pseudonymous accounts are close to half a million of them.

734
00:54:27,740 --> 00:54:29,460
So it's not very large at this point yet.

735
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:38,820
But there's also, we don't have like Google Analytics or tracking, but there are websites out there, like for example, SimilarWeb or SEMrush.

736
00:54:39,060 --> 00:54:40,020
Those are websites.

737
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,380
They actually gather data from providers worldwide.

738
00:54:42,620 --> 00:54:43,840
We have no control over it.

739
00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:46,580
And they will estimate the visitors.

740
00:54:47,140 --> 00:54:53,120
So according to those websites, in the summer, there are about just over 1 million visitors per month.

741
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,480
But in the spring, it was closer to one and a half.

742
00:54:55,660 --> 00:54:58,220
I think in the fall, it will be closer to 2 million per month.

743
00:54:58,460 --> 00:55:01,620
So, you know, it's not huge, but it's not insignificant.

744
00:55:01,620 --> 00:55:07,900
If you think of like what one and a half million people a month look like, that's a significant traffic.

745
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,080
And the secret is that many people watch content without registering.

746
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,460
And Bastion is not closed.

747
00:55:14,460 --> 00:55:18,640
You can watch videos without registering if you choose not to register.

748
00:55:19,540 --> 00:55:27,080
Well, that's good because I know a lot of the other social media platforms, you can't get access to any of the content unless you become a member.

749
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:30,320
And to do that, you have to give away a lot of your personal information.

750
00:55:30,660 --> 00:55:35,320
So that's one of the good things about Bastion that I like.

751
00:55:35,460 --> 00:55:38,740
When you post videos on there, how long can the videos be?

752
00:55:38,740 --> 00:55:46,220
So when you just join immediately, remember, because we have no personal identification, you don't get to upload video immediately.

753
00:55:46,380 --> 00:55:52,720
It takes some time to get a minimum level for the system to be sure that you're not a bot, essentially, right?

754
00:55:52,980 --> 00:55:53,400
Yeah.

755
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:54,680
Then you can upload.

756
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,660
It's actually pretty hefty right now.

757
00:55:56,820 --> 00:56:02,560
It's, I think it's 500 gigabytes.

758
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,440
I'm sorry.

759
00:56:04,580 --> 00:56:06,540
No, 500 megabytes a day.

760
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,180
Okay.

761
00:56:07,180 --> 00:56:07,780
Early on.

762
00:56:07,780 --> 00:56:11,100
But you can also buy some pocket coin and put it in your account.

763
00:56:11,220 --> 00:56:12,520
It costs nothing to upload.

764
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:18,640
But when you have coin, the system knows that you're not likely a bot because bots will be very expensive for bots to use coin.

765
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,040
So if you're a creator, you can also request, like there's a form.

766
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,580
When you click upload video, it tells you, look, you're a new user.

767
00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:26,660
We don't know if you're a bot.

768
00:56:26,980 --> 00:56:31,180
But you can request pocket coin and the developers will just send it to you.

769
00:56:31,180 --> 00:56:33,940
So it's not really, it's just closed for bots.

770
00:56:34,140 --> 00:56:37,880
But new users can upload to up to 500 megs a day.

771
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:44,240
Now, if you're an advanced user who's been there for a while or a big blogger like yourself, then you get much higher limits.

772
00:56:44,340 --> 00:56:46,200
It could be five gigs a day, even higher.

773
00:56:47,260 --> 00:56:47,660
Excellent.

774
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:48,280
Excellent.

775
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:54,100
So once again, you go to bastion.com, B-A-S-T-Y-O-N.com.

776
00:56:54,220 --> 00:56:56,860
Download the desktop app is the best way.

777
00:56:56,860 --> 00:57:00,580
You said you can use it in your browser, but I use the desktop app myself.

778
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,700
I think it's a better way to go.

779
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:04,720
And it's a very easy interface.

780
00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:06,040
Sign up.

781
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:07,520
It's free to sign up.

782
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,380
Become a user.

783
00:57:08,900 --> 00:57:09,160
I just signed up.

784
00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:10,980
Very good.

785
00:57:11,060 --> 00:57:11,320
All right.

786
00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:12,600
Well, Penny just signed up.

787
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:21,500
And look, I think it's a fantastic opportunity for people for an alternative method of communication and social media.

788
00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:22,820
I highly recommend it.

789
00:57:23,660 --> 00:57:27,540
I think it's going to revolutionize the social media industry.

790
00:57:27,540 --> 00:57:34,020
And I want to commend you and your team for putting this great platform together.

791
00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:45,300
You can click the link in the description of today's show to go to bastion.com and to follow me and to also sign up for your own account and get things going.

792
00:57:45,860 --> 00:57:48,220
Daniel, thank you so much for coming on the program today.

793
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,900
I think it's absolutely fantastic.

794
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,000
I appreciate what you're doing.

795
00:57:51,780 --> 00:57:52,660
Thank you, David.

796
00:57:52,980 --> 00:57:53,200
Yeah.

797
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:53,900
Thank you, Penny.

798
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:54,560
Go ahead.

799
00:57:54,620 --> 00:57:55,120
Sign up.

800
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,040
Remember that you don't want anything connected to your name or your mobile phone number.

801
00:57:59,180 --> 00:58:00,600
That's what China does there.

802
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:08,080
If you message in a personal message, something that's deemed to be disloyal by the algorithm, you may not be able to buy food the next day.

803
00:58:08,140 --> 00:58:08,860
And that's a fact.

804
00:58:08,860 --> 00:58:10,120
That is not fear mongering.

805
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,560
I spoke to people in China.

806
00:58:12,940 --> 00:58:14,020
That's happening today.

807
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:22,260
By the way, bastion, last thing, also has a private messenger that's truly encrypted for one on one messages because neither WhatsApp nor Telegram.

808
00:58:22,260 --> 00:58:23,660
They're not really peer to peer.

809
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:24,440
No, they're not.

810
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,100
And this is not for anyone to know.

811
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,320
It's not for China.

812
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,440
Not for China.

813
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:30,440
No.

814
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,380
You mean bastion?

815
00:58:33,820 --> 00:58:34,240
Yes.

816
00:58:34,540 --> 00:58:35,300
I'm saying not for China.

817
00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:37,760
Well, I mean, it's bastion.

818
00:58:37,860 --> 00:58:39,000
We do have a Chinese version.

819
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,180
Unfortunately, it's not very popular.

820
00:58:41,460 --> 00:58:42,700
It's mostly the English version.

821
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,960
There's also a Russian-based version that's popular, German-based.

822
00:58:46,580 --> 00:58:48,200
But in China, I spoke to people.

823
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:48,840
I was like, why?

824
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,240
They said, basically, everybody's in fear.

825
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:52,060
Yes.

826
00:58:52,060 --> 00:58:53,060
Everybody's in fear.

827
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,580
People can access it in China, by the way.

828
00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:00,000
Desktop app works in China without VPN, which is very rare.

829
00:59:00,220 --> 00:59:02,100
In China, almost nothing works, right?

830
00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:03,540
No websites.

831
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:11,580
But people say, regardless, I am so worried about somebody finding out and me not being able to eat that I'm not going to use it.

832
00:59:11,580 --> 00:59:12,060
All right.

833
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:12,980
All right.

834
00:59:13,020 --> 00:59:14,460
Well, Daniel, thank you so much.

835
00:59:14,580 --> 00:59:15,640
We highly recommend it.

836
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,760
Bastion, B-A-S-T-Y-O-N.com.

837
00:59:18,820 --> 00:59:21,760
And we'll talk to you again, hopefully, in the near future.

838
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,680
Daniel, thank you so much for being with me.

839
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:23,820
Thank you.

840
00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:24,740
Thank you for having me on.

841
00:59:24,820 --> 00:59:25,360
Thanks, everybody.

842
00:59:25,740 --> 00:59:26,080
God bless.

843
00:59:26,540 --> 00:59:32,540
Daniel Satchkoff and one of the developers of this great Internet platform called Bastion.

844
00:59:32,660 --> 00:59:33,820
Go to Bastion.com.

845
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,820
Just click the link in the description of today's program to get you there.

846
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,920
We're going to take a quick break.

847
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:38,780
We're going to come back.

848
00:59:38,780 --> 00:59:40,940
Brad Olson returns to the Dark Outpost.

849
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,340
We're delighted to have him with us.

850
00:59:42,580 --> 00:59:44,100
We'll be back in just a moment.

851
00:59:47,700 --> 00:59:48,620
Let's see.

852
00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:49,160
Where's the music?

853
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:49,920
Play the music.

854
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:50,600
There's the music.

855
01:00:08,780 --> 01:00:09,080
There's the music.

856
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:09,560
There's the music.

857
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:09,920
There's the music.

858
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:10,280
There's the music.

859
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:10,840
There's the music.

860
01:00:11,180 --> 01:00:11,440
There's the music.

861
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:13,700
There's the music.

862
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:14,820
There's the music.

863
01:00:15,180 --> 01:00:16,220
There's the music.

864
01:00:16,820 --> 01:00:17,080
There's the music.

865
01:00:17,580 --> 01:00:18,520
There's the music.

866
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:19,540
There's the music.

867
01:00:19,620 --> 01:00:21,100
There's the music.

868
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:22,400
There's the music.

869
01:00:26,740 --> 01:00:27,280
There's the music.

870
01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:28,560
There's the music.

871
01:00:28,740 --> 01:00:29,680
There's the music.

872
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:30,880
There's the music.

873
01:00:30,980 --> 01:00:32,980
Talk to primero.

874
01:00:33,980 --> 01:00:34,740
There's the music.

875
01:00:34,940 --> 01:00:35,960
There's the music.

876
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:36,960
There's the music.

877
01:00:36,980 --> 01:00:37,280
There's the music.

878
01:00:37,280 --> 01:01:07,260
Thank you.

879
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:37,260
Thank you.

880
01:01:37,280 --> 01:02:07,260
Thank you.

881
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,740
What a great – oh, did I do it?

882
01:02:10,140 --> 01:02:11,200
No, I'm in here.

883
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:12,900
Hey, Anna.

884
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:14,440
You're a ninja.

885
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,980
One of those technically challenging days.

886
01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:19,120
But glad to have you with us.

887
01:02:19,420 --> 01:02:20,340
Brad, I got to tell you something.

888
01:02:21,020 --> 01:02:25,680
Brad and I are friends on Facebook, and I follow him every day.

889
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,980
And, Brad, I know you're a busy man.

890
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,320
I know you're in the publishing business.

891
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,860
I know you've written some fabulous books, of which I have them all.

892
01:02:33,660 --> 01:02:37,100
But I also know that every time I see you posted on Facebook, you're on a beat somewhere.

893
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,960
So you've got to be having some time to have fun.

894
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,060
Hey, David.

895
01:02:41,260 --> 01:02:41,740
Hey, Penny.

896
01:02:41,860 --> 01:02:43,760
It's great to be back on the Dark Outpost.

897
01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:47,060
Yeah, David, you and I have a very similar sense of humor.

898
01:02:47,060 --> 01:02:49,520
I always crack up when I see your stuff.

899
01:02:49,520 --> 01:03:02,800
We have to make light of what's going on in the world and inject a little humor sometimes, a little brevity in the situation, just so people aren't so down on everything that's going on.

900
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,300
And, yeah, I travel a lot.

901
01:03:04,420 --> 01:03:16,760
I have a lot of conferences still this year, two in October, and one I'm about to leave for on a trip out to Boulder, Colorado for the Gaiosphere Conference.

902
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:25,400
And it's great to have this opportunity to travel and also to be in the office and come on the Dark Outpost again.

903
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,900
Well, listen, it's really – it's always a pleasure to have you on the program.

904
01:03:28,900 --> 01:03:39,240
I know that Penny is very interested in one aspect of your life that we really haven't covered in your previous visits here, and that is your publishing business.

905
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:40,360
We've talked about your books.

906
01:03:40,420 --> 01:03:42,720
We've talked about a lot of topics, and we're going to get into some.

907
01:03:43,260 --> 01:03:45,900
But, Penny, you expressed an interest in publishing.

908
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:47,220
Yes.

909
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:56,900
We were talking with my best friend, who I call my sister, and she was talking about maybe me ghostwriting for her because I'm a writer.

910
01:03:56,900 --> 01:04:12,560
And doing some publications, we had thought about maybe her creating an entity and then to do documentaries, which I know nothing about, and then also in the publishing sphere.

911
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,380
So, again, I know nothing about it.

912
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,920
Can you tell me how you started in publishing?

913
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,000
Sure.

914
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,220
Well, I've been in publishing for almost 30 years.

915
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:29,700
I started out as a travel writer, and a lot of my books are still – they're all in print, in fact.

916
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,260
My very first one is this one called World Stompers.

917
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,020
This is a catalog for CCC Publishing.

918
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:41,340
And, of course, my latest books are the Esoteric Series, which –

919
01:04:41,340 --> 01:04:42,040
Great books.

920
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,200
I highly recommend them.

921
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:44,600
Thank you.

922
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,800
And I do other authors.

923
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:49,880
I've just picked up Michael Jaco.

924
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,000
His book, The Intuitive Warrior, has just come out.

925
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,460
And Laura Eisenhower, who's never published a book.

926
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,760
It's kind of amazing for all that she's accomplished.

927
01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:03,960
But she'll be coming out through CCC Publishing in a couple years.

928
01:05:04,460 --> 01:05:07,620
But to answer your question, Penny, how did I get into publishing?

929
01:05:07,620 --> 01:05:17,740
Well, I came out with my first book, and I did shop it around to other publishers with very little – even a reply back often.

930
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:18,760
I thought, what?

931
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,160
I'll just do it myself.

932
01:05:20,980 --> 01:05:24,540
And it turned out to be a great move.

933
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:30,940
Now, I have done other books through another publisher.

934
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,620
These ones, the Extreme Adventure books.

935
01:05:33,620 --> 01:05:38,780
These came out way back in the early – or, I mean, the late 1990s.

936
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,080
So, I've been at this for quite a while.

937
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:49,580
And I know both sides of the publishing door, so to speak, those being published through a publisher or doing it myself.

938
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:56,980
And my good friend, David Hatcher Childress, who's now a big rock star on Ancient Aliens, well, he's a book publisher, too.

939
01:05:56,980 --> 01:06:00,780
And he's been my mentor in many ways for many years.

940
01:06:01,140 --> 01:06:12,080
And he said some advice that he got at a very early stage was it's the publisher position that you want to be in because then you control the content.

941
01:06:13,060 --> 01:06:19,020
Nobody can ever censor you or remove your book titles.

942
01:06:19,020 --> 01:06:23,140
Yeah, and you can pick up other authors.

943
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,980
And to me, that's kind of half the joy of publishing.

944
01:06:27,260 --> 01:06:37,140
And I've picked up Leo Lyons Agami, Lon Milo Duquette, who did the Key to Solomon's Key book.

945
01:06:37,340 --> 01:06:41,640
And this is what really got me in the esoteric subject matter.

946
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:49,400
I really didn't know much about King Solomon or Solomon's magic that goes all the way back to the Middle Ages.

947
01:06:49,540 --> 01:06:55,220
I read this book, and it came to me very highly recommended that I publish it.

948
01:06:55,300 --> 01:06:57,500
And it's done quite well, and it still does well.

949
01:06:58,260 --> 01:07:05,200
And it just got me thinking, boy, there is so much involved in this umbrella term of esoteric subjects.

950
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:11,240
And it's one of those categories where people are willing to plop down money and buy a book.

951
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:19,940
You see, because when I was doing the travel books, and I had a very successful career with the Sacred Places books.

952
01:07:20,420 --> 01:07:25,940
And this is kind of how I ended it with doing travel books.

953
01:07:25,940 --> 01:07:39,560
Because at the time these books were coming out in the early 2000s, right around the time the Internet was really starting to blossom.

954
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:48,100
And look, you can go on the Internet and pretty much find any information for any destination in the world you're looking for, including Antarctica.

955
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:53,660
And so it's really hard to sell a book for money when you can get it for free.

956
01:07:53,660 --> 01:07:56,920
So I kind of went through this existential crisis.

957
01:07:57,460 --> 01:07:59,880
What am I going to do, and what am I interested in?

958
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:04,020
Well, what I'm really interested in is these esoteric subjects.

959
01:08:04,220 --> 01:08:07,100
So many things that you cover on the Dark Outpost, David.

960
01:08:07,660 --> 01:08:10,980
I just, I'm an esoteric junkie, I guess you could say.

961
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:20,520
So I started to compile my own research, and that's what eventually came the three-book series and the esoteric book series.

962
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:29,620
Did you, was it your, as a travel writer, obviously you traveled and still do.

963
01:08:29,820 --> 01:08:34,960
I was going to ask what does a travel writer do, but it's, you know, in the title, I travel.

964
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:54,140
So what I'm wondering is, were you like on certain trips to some exotic places and during perhaps while you were visiting those places, taking a tour of the area or exploring on your own, something came up and you said, boy, I would really like to know more about this.

965
01:08:54,140 --> 01:09:11,040
But it would be not really advisable for me to put this in a travel book so much as it would be to do an entire book on this particular subject, like Solomon or some weird situation that you came across when you were traveling.

966
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:18,240
Was it something in the travel sphere that propelled you into the esoteric book series, or was it a completely separate idea?

967
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:26,500
Well, that's exactly how it went down, because first I went to Japan to teach English.

968
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,520
All my trips have been self-financed.

969
01:09:29,660 --> 01:09:35,460
Nobody's ever grown up to me and says, oh, go to Antarctica or go to Asia or wherever.

970
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,460
I always paid for it myself.

971
01:09:37,700 --> 01:09:42,660
And I did a three-year trip around the world in the early 1990s.

972
01:09:42,660 --> 01:09:48,060
Yeah, and it's still on this website, Stompers.com, that story of that trip around the world.

973
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:54,300
And I found myself attracted to going to these sacred places.

974
01:09:54,740 --> 01:09:57,160
It's kind of what you do when you're traveling around.

975
01:09:57,300 --> 01:10:02,140
Say, for example, you go to Agra, India, you're going to go to the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort.

976
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,040
They're the two big attractions in town.

977
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:16,680
And so by having the firsthand experience of going to a lot of these locations down the line, it gave me the content to start this series of books.

978
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:25,820
But to your point, David, how it expanded into these esoteric subjects, we'll take, for example, the Great Pyramid.

979
01:10:25,820 --> 01:10:27,920
And I went there in 1993.

980
01:10:29,020 --> 01:10:43,520
It turns out March 1993, the exact same time that Gattenbrink was putting the robot up the air shafts in the Great Pyramid, I was there and I climbed to the top of the Great Pyramid on a full moon night.

981
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,060
It was one of these transformative experiences in my life.

982
01:10:47,060 --> 01:10:53,640
I'll put that up to youthful indiscretion because it's illegal and I did get away with it.

983
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,920
You can get caught in a lot of trouble.

984
01:10:56,620 --> 01:11:09,560
But it was at that, around that time, I was thinking, boy, I would really like to expand on some of these really esoteric sacred places, which I do in the books.

985
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:21,360
So a much larger treatment of the Great Pyramid and some of what it means, the placement and how it was built in modern esoteric, for example.

986
01:11:21,660 --> 01:11:26,680
And then some of the other sacred places have popped up in the other books, too.

987
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:32,000
What is the most of all the topics that you've written in your books?

988
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:36,660
And I'd like to I'd like to get into each individual book separately because there's there's what?

989
01:11:36,660 --> 01:11:44,500
There's three of them. But of all of the topics that you've ever covered and written about as you were doing the research,

990
01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:55,940
what was the most astonishing or unbelievable thing that you wrote about that you just it blew your mind, even even for all the stuff you write about?

991
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:01,460
And it's all mind blowing. But was there something that we just said, it's almost incomprehensible?

992
01:12:01,460 --> 01:12:14,100
Yeah, surely, with all of the polygonal architecture, the megalithic stonework that you can find really around the world.

993
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:22,340
Just coming to the realization that civilization, as we know it, is is highly edited at best,

994
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:28,460
that there is so much about our ancient history that has just been written out of the history books.

995
01:12:28,460 --> 01:12:39,160
So, David, the more I delved into these subjects, as far as human origins, it brought up the elongated skulls and giants.

996
01:12:39,340 --> 01:12:46,080
It brought up these megalithic architecture sites around the world, most especially in Peru,

997
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,760
which is the highest concentration of megalithic sites in the world.

998
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:55,480
And also this whole idea of anti-Diluvian civilizations.

999
01:12:55,980 --> 01:13:03,740
So I'm going to Boulder, Colorado in a week and a half, and I'm presenting about early maps and the builder race.

1000
01:13:04,460 --> 01:13:05,620
And so what's the connection there?

1001
01:13:05,700 --> 01:13:13,200
Well, because I draw maps in my books and I love cartography as a science,

1002
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:18,980
I think of it as another language, similar to the way people can say mathematics is a language.

1003
01:13:19,700 --> 01:13:26,960
Well, cartography is also a language, and it conveys so much about the physical aspects of the world

1004
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:33,860
that when you look at some of these early maps, most especially the Piri Reis map from 1513

1005
01:13:33,860 --> 01:13:42,300
and showing the islands off of Antarctica, and Antarctica was not even discovered as a continent until 1821

1006
01:13:42,300 --> 01:13:47,120
by the whalers and sealers that were going down there to exploit the resources,

1007
01:13:47,820 --> 01:13:52,640
that you just have to say to yourself, how do they have this knowledge?

1008
01:13:52,640 --> 01:14:00,240
And in the finer notes in the Piri Reis maps, it even says that this was a map copied from earlier maps

1009
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,860
all the way back to the time of the Library of Alexandria.

1010
01:14:02,860 --> 01:14:11,100
So I guess to answer your question, David, it's just the accumulation of so much evidence

1011
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:17,600
and information that there had been a high civilization on this planet that really does not get talked

1012
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:26,380
about in our history books, and it has to be in this arena of alternative research for this information

1013
01:14:26,380 --> 01:14:27,100
to come out.

1014
01:14:28,260 --> 01:14:28,940
Penny?

1015
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,120
What do you actually think is in Antarctica?

1016
01:14:32,860 --> 01:14:36,740
Well, gosh, we could do a whole show on that, Penny.

1017
01:14:38,220 --> 01:14:43,640
And I think David and I have talked about this before, but what is in Antarctica?

1018
01:14:43,820 --> 01:14:46,880
Well, let me just give you a few very basic facts.

1019
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,840
It is the fifth largest continent in the world.

1020
01:14:50,260 --> 01:14:54,580
It is covered over 99% in ice.

1021
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,760
And it's also the most volcanic continent in the world.

1022
01:14:58,940 --> 01:15:01,060
So 91 known volcanoes.

1023
01:15:01,060 --> 01:15:08,580
So you can just imagine the propensity of some of these geothermal formations creating large domes under the ice.

1024
01:15:08,580 --> 01:15:10,140
So what's in Antarctica?

1025
01:15:10,140 --> 01:15:20,520
Well, I guess that's one of the big mysteries of the world right now, because we here at the Dark Outpost have talked about ET bases down there,

1026
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:28,680
about giant motherships that could be also a portal of some sort, portal of some sort at both of the polls, by the way.

1027
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:33,360
And also the elite having their own bases down there.

1028
01:15:33,500 --> 01:15:37,980
John Kerry going missing for a couple of days during the 2016 election.

1029
01:15:39,140 --> 01:15:45,220
Talk of Christine Lagarde and Klaus Schwab going down to Antarctica earlier this year.

1030
01:15:45,620 --> 01:15:48,140
None other than Rothschild Island.

1031
01:15:48,140 --> 01:15:49,540
Yes, there is a place.

1032
01:15:49,780 --> 01:15:56,960
And when I was getting ready to go down there, I asked my colleague, Michael Sala, what should I check out along the Palmer Peninsula?

1033
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,360
And he said, try to get down to Rothschild Island.

1034
01:15:59,620 --> 01:16:09,400
And while that was quite a bit further south than we were going, it just leads me to believe that the elite have a very vested interest in this area.

1035
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:14,800
Not only that, but on the mainland across from Rothschild Island is the Rockefeller Plateau.

1036
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:19,840
They just love aiming things after themselves in the most remote areas of the world.

1037
01:16:20,460 --> 01:16:31,860
You know, Brad, someone sent me, somebody that I met on Twitter said that she had this CD with all these pictures of Admiral Byrd in Antarctica.

1038
01:16:32,740 --> 01:16:38,400
And so she sent me the CD and there are like hundreds and hundreds of pictures.

1039
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:46,980
But I was telling David, there's like kind of a weird, because of who I am, I opened it and I went to, and I went through all these things.

1040
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:54,160
I opened this one box and in it was pretty much a bare ass picture of a bird.

1041
01:16:55,540 --> 01:16:56,600
Bare ass picture?

1042
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:57,140
What does that mean?

1043
01:16:57,480 --> 01:17:00,700
That means he had no, he had a jockstrap on.

1044
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:01,480
Okay.

1045
01:17:01,480 --> 01:17:07,420
But he was, but he was facing, his rear end was facing the camera.

1046
01:17:09,460 --> 01:17:12,700
And yeah, I say this because, you know, if I had.

1047
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,040
Maybe that's a portal too.

1048
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,580
If I had the facility to copy this and send it to, because I opened it, I was like, ah!

1049
01:17:18,900 --> 01:17:21,040
And I snapped a picture of it and I closed it out.

1050
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:23,920
And I didn't open it again for like three months because I was like, great.

1051
01:17:24,260 --> 01:17:27,160
Now, you know, the CIA or the FBI is going to knock on my door.

1052
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,360
Why do you have new pictures of Admiral Byrd on your computer, right?

1053
01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:39,380
And it was, but it was weird because he, and it was definitely him because there's lots of pictures with his dog and everything.

1054
01:17:39,460 --> 01:17:51,020
And I haven't gone through all the pictures, but it looked like he was, he was facing some kind of a screen and it looked like ETs on the screen.

1055
01:17:51,020 --> 01:17:59,640
And then I opened it again, like about six months later, and I found another one where it looked like his spine had been opened.

1056
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:00,960
Wow.

1057
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:01,740
Yeah.

1058
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:13,480
And so I closed it again and, and I actually bought like a little, an adapter that I could, cause I had my computer blew up.

1059
01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:19,300
It wasn't because of Admiral Byrd's pictures, but, um, and then I got a little drive.

1060
01:18:19,620 --> 01:18:24,680
So it's in that little drive and I haven't opened it and looked through it, but there's like hundreds of pictures in there.

1061
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,560
But that was the first one that I opened when I just, I looked at it.

1062
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:35,760
I snapped a picture with my phone and went, ah, I went out of, I was like, oh my God, you know, what did this lady send me?

1063
01:18:35,980 --> 01:18:38,640
She said she got it from a German garage sale.

1064
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:38,680
Wow.

1065
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:40,500
Wow.

1066
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:41,520
Right.

1067
01:18:41,580 --> 01:18:42,960
Well, maybe you can send that to me.

1068
01:18:43,020 --> 01:18:44,760
Cause I might be thinking of another book.

1069
01:18:44,820 --> 01:18:46,100
I'd really like to see it.

1070
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:46,640
Yeah.

1071
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:52,340
Um, I only have this CD, so I'm not sure how to even, how to even copy it.

1072
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:58,020
Um, I don't have the facilities, but if I, what I might try to do is I'll send you a couple of pictures.

1073
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,860
So yeah, I'll, I'll like copy those and send it.

1074
01:19:01,940 --> 01:19:03,740
I've, it was just bizarre.

1075
01:19:03,740 --> 01:19:04,140
Okay.

1076
01:19:04,140 --> 01:19:06,640
I can copy the, I can copy the whole CD too.

1077
01:19:06,940 --> 01:19:07,620
All right.

1078
01:19:07,620 --> 01:19:13,960
And I have, I just opened a couple of, there's hundreds of pictures on there.

1079
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:19,820
So I just thought, you know, I would, cause somebody said, did he, it, I think he kidnapped the Lindbergh baby.

1080
01:19:19,820 --> 01:19:20,780
And I'm like, what?

1081
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:26,040
And then when I opened it and I saw that one thing, I was like, this is very bizarre.

1082
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:34,960
I mean, it was like some kind of a, it looked like, you know, it looked like he could have jumped out of an airplane and the jockstrap thing would have saved his life because it was that big.

1083
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:39,040
You know, and you just saw his rear end and then he was doing weird.

1084
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,180
He was doing like, you know, muscle man poses and some of the pictures.

1085
01:19:43,180 --> 01:19:52,020
So I don't know what bird was doing there or all the things that he did, but I have some really weird pictures in Antarctica.

1086
01:19:52,020 --> 01:19:59,840
And then also the X-Files, as you know, the movie, they go to, they go to, is it Antarctica or Alaska?

1087
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:00,740
It's Antarctica.

1088
01:20:00,740 --> 01:20:00,940
Antarctica.

1089
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:01,680
Okay.

1090
01:20:01,780 --> 01:20:03,440
So then they go there and.

1091
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:04,940
It breaks off in the end and they're.

1092
01:20:05,580 --> 01:20:05,700
Yeah.

1093
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:05,960
Right.

1094
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:16,040
And of course, you know, after he rescues, you know, Gillian and she passes out, she's on the rock and the, and the ship takes off and he's like, look, look.

1095
01:20:16,380 --> 01:20:19,420
And she turns over and opens her eyes and she's like, what?

1096
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:20,000
There's nothing.

1097
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,140
And the next day she's back to, there are no aliens again.

1098
01:20:23,140 --> 01:20:30,700
And part of that character in the X-Files is, as you know, they base these movies on military intel individuals.

1099
01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:38,840
And my husband looked like David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson looked like me and she's 10 years younger than me.

1100
01:20:39,140 --> 01:20:43,000
And, but I'm not that character because I didn't actually work for the FBI.

1101
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:44,860
I'm not a medical examiner.

1102
01:20:44,980 --> 01:20:51,240
Although I did covertly work as an agent unbeknownst to me for, for the deep state.

1103
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,600
In a, in an agent capacity.

1104
01:20:55,500 --> 01:20:55,900
Yeah.

1105
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,520
It sounds like Admiral Byrd was doing a little twerk in there in his jockstrap.

1106
01:20:59,960 --> 01:21:00,360
Something.

1107
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:01,860
It was just like.

1108
01:21:02,740 --> 01:21:04,880
I opened it up and I was just like, oh my God.

1109
01:21:05,180 --> 01:21:07,740
And I just snapped a picture of it and then disclosed the CD.

1110
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,400
I was like, what did she send me?

1111
01:21:09,460 --> 01:21:10,820
Did she literally send me like.

1112
01:21:10,820 --> 01:21:11,900
I hate to say it.

1113
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,200
I think I'd rather look at Miley Cyrus twerking than Admiral Byrd.

1114
01:21:15,660 --> 01:21:18,760
Although at least the side you saw was not his bird.

1115
01:21:19,340 --> 01:21:19,720
So let me.

1116
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,640
A lot of subtleties we could inject here.

1117
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:23,900
Yeah.

1118
01:21:24,220 --> 01:21:29,520
I was wondering if he like actually met with ETs because there was a screen in front of

1119
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:34,600
him, which literally it looked like there were extraterrestrials in the screen in front

1120
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,020
of them that he was facing.

1121
01:21:36,140 --> 01:21:41,880
So his back was to the camera and you know, the cameras in those days, they set up the old,

1122
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,340
you know, old antique cameras.

1123
01:21:45,620 --> 01:21:46,800
We call them antique, but.

1124
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,260
So he knew he was being photographed.

1125
01:21:49,420 --> 01:21:53,140
It wasn't like they were taking a Polaroid and snapping Polaroids.

1126
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:54,800
It was definitely set up.

1127
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:59,880
So I just looked at it and said, is he standing in front of ETs talking to ETs?

1128
01:21:59,980 --> 01:22:02,420
Is he doing some Satanic ceremony?

1129
01:22:03,580 --> 01:22:03,740
Yeah.

1130
01:22:03,740 --> 01:22:08,580
You spend a little, uh, enough time down in Antarctica all alone.

1131
01:22:08,700 --> 01:22:12,300
You start doing a weird thing, twerking on the camera.

1132
01:22:13,300 --> 01:22:14,960
Was there any snow?

1133
01:22:15,500 --> 01:22:16,420
Like, was it cold?

1134
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,680
There was, there was snow.

1135
01:22:18,860 --> 01:22:21,260
There was like a snow thing in his cabin.

1136
01:22:21,460 --> 01:22:23,860
It looked like it was melting snow on the ground, which is this lady.

1137
01:22:23,860 --> 01:22:25,640
She thought it was a diaper.

1138
01:22:25,820 --> 01:22:27,700
She's like, is that the Lindbergh baby's diaper?

1139
01:22:27,860 --> 01:22:28,340
I'm like, what?

1140
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,320
How are you getting that from this?

1141
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:37,740
But she did send me this CD and I investigated because of who I am, because I'm the actual

1142
01:22:37,740 --> 01:22:39,000
11 depicted in Stranger Things.

1143
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,880
So I looked at it and I was like, that is just not right.

1144
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,420
You know, it's just not right.

1145
01:22:46,420 --> 01:22:52,300
Tell us a little bit about each of one of the, of the esoteric books so that people get

1146
01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:55,640
a flavor of what they're going to find in each one of these great books.

1147
01:22:56,340 --> 01:22:57,140
Oh, sure.

1148
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,380
Well, Modern Esoteric is the first book in the series.

1149
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:07,300
This is, uh, if I were to give you the 32nd elevator pitch, this starts at the beginning

1150
01:23:07,300 --> 01:23:16,140
with, uh, the antediluvian civilization, the giants of old, uh, the, uh, early rituals,

1151
01:23:16,140 --> 01:23:18,480
such as the mystery schools of old.

1152
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:24,100
And then it takes us up to the modern age with all the esoteric traditions included.

1153
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:36,040
Future Esoteric goes more into the UFO enigma, the crafts that are using zero point energy and

1154
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:43,320
what the exo-political positions are that they may be coming here, where Beyond Esoteric

1155
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,700
is the latest in the series and just comes out.

1156
01:23:46,820 --> 01:23:53,720
And this is pretty much a synopsis of the other subjects that, uh, weren't in the first

1157
01:23:53,720 --> 01:24:01,520
two books, but also in this, uh, very strange time we find ourselves when globalists can,

1158
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:09,700
uh, declare a pandemic, scamdemic, uh, plandemic, uh, uh, a way that they can festoon upon the

1159
01:24:09,700 --> 01:24:16,780
human race, their agenda for a new world order, which is now showing its face, uh, plain as

1160
01:24:16,780 --> 01:24:18,940
day to anyone paying attention.

1161
01:24:19,660 --> 01:24:27,180
So to me, this has always been that we have a right to know this information and esoteric

1162
01:24:27,180 --> 01:24:28,080
in its nature.

1163
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:33,500
Just the word itself means information that has been collected by a select few and only

1164
01:24:33,500 --> 01:24:39,560
known to a select few, but this is the great awakening that we're now in.

1165
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:48,320
And for anybody that feels compelled to learn about all that is hidden, it will soon be revealed.

1166
01:24:48,580 --> 01:24:49,900
It is being revealed.

1167
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:56,340
And just like you can't, you can take a horse to water, but you cannot make a drink.

1168
01:24:56,340 --> 01:25:00,040
You can't force information on anybody.

1169
01:25:00,420 --> 01:25:02,520
They have to really want it.

1170
01:25:02,620 --> 01:25:08,080
They have to be a seeker themselves and come to this information, just like the dark outpost

1171
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:12,980
to get information that they're not getting from any mainstream source.

1172
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:20,420
And that's why alternative media is doing so well because people realize this has been

1173
01:25:20,420 --> 01:25:21,420
withheld from us.

1174
01:25:21,420 --> 01:25:27,340
This is the information that I really need to make good decisions in my life and to be

1175
01:25:27,340 --> 01:25:29,240
informed about what's going on in the world.

1176
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,560
So the books have been met with a great amount of success.

1177
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:39,340
I'm quite grateful to all the readers and people who have, uh, done a review on Amazon.

1178
01:25:39,340 --> 01:25:44,760
For example, there are all, uh, four and a half or five star reviews, hundreds of reviews

1179
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:51,920
for each book and, uh, but I'm not doing this, uh, to aggrandize myself.

1180
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:59,080
I just, I really feel that I need to be in service to team humanity here and to help those

1181
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:06,240
who are on a quest to awaken, to come into this information on their own and use it as

1182
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:06,680
they will.

1183
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:11,820
I can tell by the way your books are written that you're, that you're telling the truth

1184
01:26:11,820 --> 01:26:18,460
because I've, I've seen books written by people and when they come on a program, whether it's

1185
01:26:18,460 --> 01:26:23,300
our program or somebody else's, they spend most of the time saying, well, as it says

1186
01:26:23,300 --> 01:26:26,560
in my book, cause they want people to buy the book and then you buy the book and there's

1187
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:31,420
a lot of self-aggrandizing going on in the, in the writing of the book.

1188
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,680
Uh, you don't do that.

1189
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,760
You are out there to give as much information as possible.

1190
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,800
The books are a tremendous value.

1191
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,200
I think because there's a ton of information and these are thick books.

1192
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:46,680
These are not, um, you know, this is, you know, you know, uh, something where you get,

1193
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:48,700
you know, one or two tidbits of information.

1194
01:26:49,060 --> 01:26:56,480
Uh, these are encyclopedias, basically a very valuable, um, information has, has, if you got

1195
01:26:56,480 --> 01:27:02,820
any kind of, uh, uh, negative feedback from like Amazon or any other, I know you can get

1196
01:27:02,820 --> 01:27:09,560
your books at your own websites, is it cc, cccpublishing.com, but also, but they're at

1197
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:10,080
Amazon too.

1198
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:15,920
Has anyone tried to censor you in any way or try to prevent you from getting this information

1199
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:16,260
out?

1200
01:27:17,140 --> 01:27:23,600
Well, that's the beauty of being the publisher myself that I cannot be edited.

1201
01:27:23,860 --> 01:27:24,000
Yeah.

1202
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:29,080
I'm glad that Amazon could come down on me, but, uh, I worked through a really great distributor

1203
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:35,020
out of Chicago where I grew up, uh, and I've been with them since the mid 1990s, ever since

1204
01:27:35,020 --> 01:27:38,640
world stompers came out, uh, called independent publishers group.

1205
01:27:39,020 --> 01:27:47,480
And so using a distributor to get those books into bookstores, but also to argue on my behalf,

1206
01:27:47,480 --> 01:27:54,940
if there was some kind of, uh, copyright claim or anybody, if somebody was actually trying to,

1207
01:27:54,940 --> 01:28:02,780
uh, steal the copyright to modern esoteric a few years ago, and yeah, IPG really stepped up and,

1208
01:28:02,780 --> 01:28:08,500
uh, fought back on my behalf and we, we got that person to back down.

1209
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:15,320
Uh, so there are other ways that they can come in, but as far as Amazon, I really just try to fly

1210
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:21,620
under their radar. Cause I do know that a lot of people do get censored there, but they are still

1211
01:28:21,620 --> 01:28:28,120
the 500 pound elephant in the room. So you, you kind of have to, uh, go along with them and,

1212
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:39,480
and their, uh, terms, but, um, I have been hacked. I have been, um, threatened in a veiled kind of way.

1213
01:28:39,480 --> 01:28:44,960
I have been ever since I started doing the esoteric series, David, it's just amazing.

1214
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:49,140
When I did travel books, I'd get junkets and travel around the world on press trips and everything

1215
01:28:49,140 --> 01:28:53,580
was fine and nothing ever happened to me. And then as soon as I came out with these books,

1216
01:28:53,580 --> 01:28:57,820
I became a targeted individual. No doubt about it in my mind.

1217
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:03,500
It's like Trump being the host of the apprentice. Everybody loved Trump before he got into politics.

1218
01:29:03,780 --> 01:29:06,660
As soon as you ran for office persona non grata.

1219
01:29:07,260 --> 01:29:13,700
Yep. That's kind of par for the course when you try to awaken humanity. And, and you made a point,

1220
01:29:13,700 --> 01:29:20,760
David, I take myself out of these books. It's not about me. It's about us and the world and the

1221
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:28,660
great awakening that we're going through. And so perhaps because I try to stay ego free and all

1222
01:29:28,660 --> 01:29:35,680
this, it's not about me. It, you know, it's about us learning and growing and understanding all that

1223
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:42,920
has been withheld from us and, and some of these dark secrets. That's why the subtitle in Beyond

1224
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:49,920
Esoteric is escaping prison planet. So to realize that we have been put into this construct of the

1225
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:55,800
mind that keeps us in this prison. It's not that saying that earth isn't a beautiful planet. It is,

1226
01:29:55,800 --> 01:30:03,680
it's a gem of a planet, a gorgeous place, but the human race has been imprisoned in this construct

1227
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:11,000
to, to, to shape us with a certain kind of narrative that keeps us in line and going along

1228
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:17,360
with this globalist plan. And it's been going on for a long, long time. So the very first time in

1229
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:23,860
history, I would argue all the way back to the time of the ancient Greeks were the last ones who

1230
01:30:23,860 --> 01:30:30,140
basically tried to break out of this construct for the very first time. We have this opportunity

1231
01:30:30,140 --> 01:30:37,460
to free ourselves and to free our minds. And that all starts with the knowledge that knowledge is

1232
01:30:37,460 --> 01:30:45,520
power. And to understand this information is to give yourself that one step up in knowing all that

1233
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:51,480
has been withheld from us. Absolutely. Penny. Well, I was actually going to ask you, what do you think

1234
01:30:51,480 --> 01:30:56,640
the answer is to kind of answered it, but you know, what do you think the answer is to the dilemma that

1235
01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:02,940
we find ourselves in today in order to educate people of the facts that they've been taught erroneous

1236
01:31:02,940 --> 01:31:10,780
history, historical lies throughout the millennia. And, um, my answer has always been to educate

1237
01:31:10,780 --> 01:31:15,960
yourself, to open your mind to the possibility that anything is possible is possible. Start your

1238
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:22,160
research from that standpoint, regardless of limiting, um, what would be the finite mind,

1239
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:30,540
which has already been inundated with the constructions and, um, and manipulations of

1240
01:31:30,540 --> 01:31:37,280
those who are in power, who have held these precepts to us. And then we copy them like little copycats

1241
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:43,740
and we believe everything they've said. So my premise has been, it's always incumbent upon you to do the

1242
01:31:43,740 --> 01:31:48,740
education for yourself. If people come to me and they want, they want answers. I have some answers.

1243
01:31:48,820 --> 01:31:55,280
I don't have all of them. And I also entreat them to investigate those answers that I have as well.

1244
01:31:55,460 --> 01:32:00,200
You know, cause I'm, I've started investigating my life to find out what happened to me and I

1245
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:05,340
entreat others to do the same, but they have to take the initiative. And I feel like it's people like

1246
01:32:05,340 --> 01:32:10,760
you, people like David, people like the whistleblowers that are putting their lives on the line

1247
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:17,300
to be able to tell what they know, the truth that they know. And, uh, and I believe that that will

1248
01:32:17,300 --> 01:32:22,300
educate the adults who will then educate the children who will then educate the grandchildren.

1249
01:32:22,300 --> 01:32:28,580
And that's how I think we might be able to actually change this corrupted system. Your thoughts?

1250
01:32:28,580 --> 01:32:36,380
This is how we change this corrupted system. Knowledge is power. And the more that we learn

1251
01:32:36,380 --> 01:32:42,280
and the more that we can take on. And David, one reason I really admire the dark outposts and all

1252
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:50,040
that you do is you're not afraid to shy away from some of these dark subjects. And look, so much has

1253
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:58,900
been done to us by this, uh, satanic cabal that, that has ruled the Western world for so long. It's

1254
01:32:58,900 --> 01:33:05,360
just, we have to expose them. We have to talk about this. We have to have a conversation about how they

1255
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:11,660
have captured our mind in this prison planet and how we're going to break out of it because this is

1256
01:33:11,660 --> 01:33:18,840
the most extraordinary time in human history. And it's also the time when we may have meaningful

1257
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:26,940
contact with those extraterrestrial brothers and sisters, but it's not just extraterrestrials as

1258
01:33:26,940 --> 01:33:31,880
we have often been programmed to think, Oh, look to the sky. They're going to come down from some

1259
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:38,080
distant galaxy far, far away. What about inner terrestrials that are right here, right below our

1260
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:44,860
feet that live within this planet itself? And then what about considering the dimensional aspects of

1261
01:33:44,860 --> 01:33:52,880
ultra terrestrials? And this is things we are just so, uh, ignorant in knowing, but is so very

1262
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:59,440
important if we're ever going to make that very important step of having meaningful disclosure with

1263
01:33:59,440 --> 01:34:06,420
these entities to know who they are. Like the old, uh, Lao Tzu saying, if you don't know your enemy,

1264
01:34:06,420 --> 01:34:14,100
how can you ever be expected to defeat them? And, and that's quite true with this globalist new world

1265
01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:19,480
order agenda. How can we ever attempt to bring them down if we don't even know who they are? And

1266
01:34:19,480 --> 01:34:24,060
they're very good at disguising themselves and keeping themselves out of the public. Why do you

1267
01:34:24,060 --> 01:34:30,660
think they always put up their puppets first? So even people like Bill Gates and, and Klaus Schwab,

1268
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:36,100
they're just puppets to these globalists who remain nameless. That's why I often think it's

1269
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:43,740
disingenuous to blame it all on government. Government is just a captured operation at this point.

1270
01:34:43,740 --> 01:34:52,200
Government is just the tool to allow these globalists to do what they do. And so it's exposing

1271
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:59,900
this agenda. It's exposing these crimes that is really what I believe the way that we're going to

1272
01:34:59,900 --> 01:35:09,080
escape this prison planet. Govern the mental. Yep. I, and you know, there is a, um, you're absolutely

1273
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:17,120
right. A lot of people won't stop at the, uh, people like Klaus Schwab's, the George Soros's,

1274
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:25,200
the, the Rothschild's and say, this is the ultimate, but these people are also held accountable

1275
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:31,620
to something else. Uh, whether it be of extraterrestrial, uh, interterrestrial,

1276
01:35:31,620 --> 01:35:39,200
or ultra terrestrial nature, um, or it could be even a higher power right here within, on the surface

1277
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:44,380
of the earth. There was a great book written called the committee of 300, which claimed that there is

1278
01:35:44,380 --> 01:35:50,680
a group of, of individuals who even control the, what we consider to be the power brokers of the world

1279
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:56,180
right now. And they are pulling their strings. What can you tell us about that?

1280
01:35:56,180 --> 01:36:04,200
The committee of 300, the Bilderberg group, the trilateral commission, the council on foreign

1281
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:14,680
relations. These are the think tanks groups that the globalists use to inject their policies into

1282
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:21,860
government. Uh, there was a great researcher named Anthony Hilder. And I think he, he has not

1283
01:36:21,860 --> 01:36:30,480
gotten the kind of, uh, fame that he deserved. He's, he's passed away, but he, he had some great

1284
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:36,900
interviews back in the days of VHS tapes. And he was really instrumental in part of my awakening. You

1285
01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:43,900
can still see some of his videos, um, on some of the channels, perhaps not YouTube. I think he's

1286
01:36:43,900 --> 01:36:51,020
probably been, uh, ejected off of there, but Anthony Hilder had, had, had this statement that saying that

1287
01:36:51,020 --> 01:37:03,480
these globalist groups, uh, use the CIA as the enforcement arm for the CFR. So our CIA has been

1288
01:37:03,480 --> 01:37:11,740
a captured operation and does the operations for the globalists abroad. Similarly, the FBI is a

1289
01:37:11,740 --> 01:37:19,100
captured operation, which we're all starting to see so glaringly obvious how captured they have become

1290
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:28,560
in things in this country. So once you start to put that together, that it's really the globalists

1291
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:36,520
all along, this group that's trying to, uh, bring us into the worst form of fascist with this digital

1292
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:44,440
currency that doesn't even have, uh, the, the transparency of a blockchain that just, they control and they

1293
01:37:44,440 --> 01:37:50,840
can turn it on and off. And if you're going too far in your car, David, well, they, your carbon credits

1294
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:56,320
have been exceeded and we're cutting you off the next time you go to a gas station. Isn't it interesting

1295
01:37:56,320 --> 01:38:04,040
that really it can only go about 300 or 400 miles max on a tank of gas. Similarly, you can only go about

1296
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:11,980
that far or less on an electric car. So they really do keep us captured in such a way that if they wanted

1297
01:38:11,980 --> 01:38:18,840
to shut you off or if the supplies stop, they can do that. And so many other ways that they want to

1298
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:25,660
control us in this new world order system. So we are at that point, we have crossed the Rubicon really,

1299
01:38:25,780 --> 01:38:34,040
it is getting very serious that if we don't stop them in the very near future, this is going to be

1300
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:40,900
the worst form of fascism on this planet than anyone could ever imagine. Like the movie Avatar, we would be

1301
01:38:40,900 --> 01:38:50,120
this space conquering, uh, colonial power, uh, and using humans as slave labor and, and this planet

1302
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:55,960
will be degraded. I mean, look at how apt they're to try to get us into world war three right now,

1303
01:38:56,060 --> 01:39:03,640
provoking Russia. This is a very dangerous time we live in and we do have to see them for what they

1304
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:08,780
are. I'm so glad you have Carrie Cassidy coming on next because, uh, she and our friends and

1305
01:39:08,780 --> 01:39:16,460
colleagues, and she is, uh, so into this whole global game of chess that's being played right now

1306
01:39:16,460 --> 01:39:23,700
and how important it is that we stay on the ball and, and, and keep in mind that they have really

1307
01:39:23,700 --> 01:39:30,740
captured governments around the world and these very dangerous organizations like the FBI and the CIA,

1308
01:39:30,740 --> 01:39:38,900
which can go in and do the wet works and take people out and even leaders of, uh, countries who don't go

1309
01:39:38,900 --> 01:39:39,880
along with their agenda.

1310
01:39:41,020 --> 01:39:47,660
Brad, what do you think about, uh, the, the principle? I had a friend who, uh, told me about to research

1311
01:39:47,660 --> 01:39:54,040
Phil Schneider and he was actually in the white house. This person was being groomed in the white house.

1312
01:39:54,040 --> 01:40:02,640
He was an independent and, uh, he was also a vet. He saw, uh, he saw the shape shifting in the VA of

1313
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:08,860
one of his psychiatrists. Um, and he said, do you know why Phil Schneider started disclosing? And I

1314
01:40:08,860 --> 01:40:14,100
said, no, he said, because the same entities that he fought, he went to a meeting, a global meeting,

1315
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:19,260
and he saw that they were the ones in control of earth. Is it possible that the, that a benevolent

1316
01:40:19,260 --> 01:40:26,220
faction is actually the head of the cabal controlling all of the, puppeting, all of these

1317
01:40:26,220 --> 01:40:27,920
factions that we just spoke of?

1318
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:33,900
I'm so glad you brought that up because I have quite a few sections about Phil Schneider,

1319
01:40:34,420 --> 01:40:43,460
the Dulce wars and the nightmare hall and what these extraterrestrials are doing. Uh, Alex Collier is

1320
01:40:43,460 --> 01:40:48,360
also a friend of mine and a colleague from conferences. We were just both up at the Mount Shasta

1321
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:56,840
summer conference and somebody asked him in a Q and a, who owns the earth? And he said,

1322
01:40:56,840 --> 01:41:05,740
the Anunnaki. So now we're looking at extraterrestrial forces who malevolent ET forces in

1323
01:41:05,740 --> 01:41:12,000
service to themselves who are really running the show. That's why I often say the Rothschilds and

1324
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:18,180
the Rockefellers, they're more like the colonels and the captains. The real generals here are

1325
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:24,080
are not even human. That's what we're up against. And they're so good at disguising themselves and

1326
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:30,900
they may not even be of this surface world. They could very well be interterrestrials around. Yeah.

1327
01:41:30,900 --> 01:41:36,520
Or even ultra terrestrials that we can't, how can we fight something that we can't even see or know who

1328
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:43,280
it is? So this is how disadvantaged we are. But the advantage that we do have Penny is humans are

1329
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:52,740
extremely capable of attuning their pineal gland, of getting into some of these superhuman abilities

1330
01:41:52,740 --> 01:41:58,220
that lie dormant within our bodies. Once we start to wake up to our true human potential,

1331
01:41:58,220 --> 01:42:04,840
I think it's game over for whoever they are, because we have so many more in numbers than they do

1332
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:12,860
that just by critical mass alone, the human race can rise up and reclaim our position on this planet.

1333
01:42:13,060 --> 01:42:18,840
Because right now we are in a prison planet and there's no escaping if you don't know even what

1334
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:24,080
you're up against. That's what I try to do with some of the people that come to me that are MKUltra

1335
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:31,080
or targeted individuals. And when I became enemy of the state under James Clapper and got locked in a

1336
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:35,540
crazy house for a year, I found out that they're making movies about all of us. I've been in the

1337
01:42:35,540 --> 01:42:43,920
entertainment industry for over 58 years behind the scenes as a singer and a writer. And they've

1338
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:48,540
taken everything that I've ever written. And I found out that the character in Stranger Things is

1339
01:42:48,540 --> 01:42:57,040
actually me. And I'm like, how are they doing this? It's literally either it's a demonic intervention

1340
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:03,280
or it's an epigenetic thing with some of the things that I've been, I've seen myself in,

1341
01:43:03,500 --> 01:43:10,580
or it's just an alien thing. And they're just having, you know, fun. I was telling David that

1342
01:43:10,580 --> 01:43:14,480
I was in this production. It's called P.S. I Love You. I was at the end of it. It was with Greg

1343
01:43:14,480 --> 01:43:22,100
Evigan, Connie Selick, Selicka. And it was filmed at the JW Mary. I thought it was a failed pilot,

1344
01:43:22,100 --> 01:43:27,220
but I went back because somebody had told me about, they felt that Max Spears was in their body.

1345
01:43:27,620 --> 01:43:31,500
And I said, I had this experience once with my brother. And when I was at the JW Mary,

1346
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:37,340
I went back and I found out that it actually wasn't a failed pilot. And I was, my band was at

1347
01:43:37,340 --> 01:43:45,020
the end of it with Greg Evigan. They also used it in the intro. And over my head, it had the casting

1348
01:43:45,020 --> 01:43:50,220
director's name. I was looking to see, did they even give me credit, right? For the, my band.

1349
01:43:50,220 --> 01:43:57,940
At the end, it said L over my head. And I was like, how are they doing this? Because that,

1350
01:43:58,060 --> 01:44:03,940
I know that that can be planned and strategized by the people that are cutting it. But I'm seeing

1351
01:44:03,940 --> 01:44:12,000
something far above that, that is some kind of an alien faction intervention in which perhaps,

1352
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:18,000
as you know, the CIA is in control of the entertainment sphere. Are they giving their

1353
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:23,860
instructions from these aliens? How, you know, I mean, some of this stuff is just baffling me

1354
01:44:23,860 --> 01:44:30,740
as to how do they know so much about me to write a character based upon my life?

1355
01:44:31,540 --> 01:44:31,740
Yeah.

1356
01:44:31,740 --> 01:44:36,360
I don't think the Duffer brothers, I don't say I'm the inspiration. I don't think they have a clue that

1357
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:39,840
they're actually writing about a real person in Stranger Things.

1358
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:45,300
Well, you must be doing something right, Penny, because when they take the truth.

1359
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,420
Yeah. Revealing the truth. Yeah. That's doing something right.

1360
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:55,140
Well, I know that the truth tellers also, and whistleblowers have contracts on them. And I,

1361
01:44:55,340 --> 01:44:59,600
my brother was, David was murdered because he wrote an unpublished book called The Whistleblower,

1362
01:44:59,700 --> 01:45:04,620
which is whistleblower about the Vatican bush and my evil family, which is why when I started writing,

1363
01:45:04,620 --> 01:45:09,660
I just call it writing in the air. And so I started my blog and then through my blog and

1364
01:45:09,660 --> 01:45:13,660
through my research, I was getting memories back. And that's how I started, you know,

1365
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:19,080
focusing because they, they gave me essentially a chemical lobotomy. I was walking on a walker in

1366
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:23,740
adult diapers. I had to learn how to walk and talk all over again. And then when I started,

1367
01:45:23,740 --> 01:45:30,900
you know, disclosing, I started writing a blog. And then the first thing I wrote was this stupid blog

1368
01:45:30,900 --> 01:45:38,080
called, um, penny for your thoughts dash writer. And I wrote this little itty bitty blog about

1369
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:43,320
Snowden and the NSA. And I said, is the NSA going to come after me because I'm writing this little

1370
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:49,560
itty bitty blog about job, uh, Oliver who went over to see Snowden and darned if you don't know,

1371
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:54,900
but then I was made homeless. I was targeted. And then I was thrown in a crazy house. And, and I was

1372
01:45:54,900 --> 01:45:58,840
asked, do you want to end up like Snowden and Assange? And I was like, what are you talking about?

1373
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,540
I'm a singer. Why would I end up like Snowden and Assange?

1374
01:46:05,440 --> 01:46:11,000
The nail that stands up energetically gets hammered back down. That happens on this planet

1375
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:16,800
over and over and over again. And David, I'm sure you've, uh, experienced some censorship and, uh,

1376
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:23,320
Oh, I kicked off the YouTube two years ago. Uh, it'll be two years next month. Um, and the,

1377
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:28,680
the very next, the very same day I was on rumble and bitch shoot and all those other platforms

1378
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:35,880
immediately. Uh, but yeah, it, it, it happens. It happens all the time. But, but the thing is

1379
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:40,280
you have to keep, you have to keep pushing. If a lot of people, as soon as that happens,

1380
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:44,340
they give up, they say, okay, well, I've been kicked off. So I'm just going to just keep my

1381
01:46:44,340 --> 01:46:51,040
mouth shut, put my tail between my legs and go home. But you can't, we, we have a, this is a fight

1382
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:56,320
for humanity. This is the, it's a fight that you're involved in. It's a fight that Penny is involved

1383
01:46:56,320 --> 01:47:01,540
in with all of her heart, soul, and mind. I mean, I admire Penny so much. I'm glad she became a,

1384
01:47:01,540 --> 01:47:07,140
uh, a partner in this show because she, she's uncovering the truth. And one of the things she

1385
01:47:07,140 --> 01:47:12,120
said, it's still, it resonates with me every day. I say this every day, ever since I first heard Penny

1386
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:18,460
say it is a prayer to God. And when she says, please help me learn about myself, please help me

1387
01:47:18,460 --> 01:47:24,380
discover me and God will help you. You know, you look inside and find out more about yourself.

1388
01:47:24,380 --> 01:47:28,720
And she's discovering more, more about herself every day. Right, Penny? I mean, I mean, my,

1389
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:35,560
my prayer was in 2015, before I left my husband, who was an ex, uh, Sergeant, uh, from Carlsbad PD

1390
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:42,700
in San Diego was God reveal myself to me. And I also asked for help, um, in extricating myself from

1391
01:47:42,700 --> 01:47:48,240
a situation in which I was with this individual who was a handler, uh, for the deep state and also,

1392
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:53,900
uh, for my brother worked with my brother, which I didn't know. I didn't know that all these people

1393
01:47:53,900 --> 01:47:59,060
knew each other for 60 years. You know, I'm 64 now, but I didn't, I didn't even know I was MJ

1394
01:47:59,060 --> 01:48:04,860
ultra until I was 58. So I'm hoping with my disclosures and the things that I'm finding out

1395
01:48:04,860 --> 01:48:09,820
about, you know, the projects that I was involved with, that other people who come forward that I can

1396
01:48:09,820 --> 01:48:15,760
help them so that they start writing and they start speaking and they start having, you know,

1397
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:23,080
books and blog spots and, um, you know, start doing, uh, disclosures on various shows. You know,

1398
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:29,380
that's, that's my hope because as I said before, the, the entire humanity needs to, as they're

1399
01:48:29,380 --> 01:48:36,180
awakening and I, I don't convince her to call, to call, to cajole anyone, you know, if they come to

1400
01:48:36,180 --> 01:48:39,800
me and they're like, well, I don't believe you. I say, well, your disbelief doesn't change

1401
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:46,500
the truth. I know who I am now. Um, and it's not about me. I, I liken myself to what Jim

1402
01:48:46,500 --> 01:48:51,720
Marr said about for every grain of sand that's on this planet, there's another galaxy and another

1403
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:56,960
universe. So if we think that we're the only sentient beings, that's rather ignorant. And I

1404
01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:02,460
liken myself as to one of those grains of sand on the beaches of this planet. I'm just one grain of

1405
01:49:02,460 --> 01:49:08,020
sand. All the grains of sand need to be put together to create this beach of truth.

1406
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:10,920
Well said.

1407
01:49:11,500 --> 01:49:16,560
Yeah. What is your biggest, I've been hearing some things about an executive order that was signed,

1408
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:24,260
uh, back, I believe under Barack Obama's regime, um, and actually reinforced by something Biden

1409
01:49:24,260 --> 01:49:31,800
signed back in March of this year that will eliminate currency as we know it. Cash, you know,

1410
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:37,100
cash is going, Starbucks just announced that I think it was effective either September 1st or next

1411
01:49:37,100 --> 01:49:42,640
month. They're not going to take cash in any of their coffee stores. You have to use digital currency.

1412
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:46,940
So if they're home in person, don't go to Starbucks because you're standing on the corner asking for

1413
01:49:46,940 --> 01:49:52,320
coinage. Yeah, exactly. Are you concerned that there's, there's a rumor that going around that by

1414
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:56,980
December the 12th, we're going to be, cash is going to be eliminated altogether and everything's

1415
01:49:56,980 --> 01:50:04,660
going to be digitized, which makes it far easier to control your social credit score and eliminate just the

1416
01:50:04,660 --> 01:50:10,600
bank and just shut down your bank account and shut down your ability to buy something depending upon

1417
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:16,020
how they view you as a person and what you're talking about. So if you're posting something on

1418
01:50:16,020 --> 01:50:21,240
social media that they don't like, all of a sudden you find your bank accounts been cleaned out. You

1419
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:26,060
can't make a purchase. Can't do anything. How concerned are you about something like that? And if you heard

1420
01:50:26,060 --> 01:50:32,680
the same thing, I have heard the same thing and I'm extremely concerned because this is the big move.

1421
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:41,360
This is the, the shift into this new world order. I think they still need a big false flag. I'm also

1422
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:48,360
concerned it's coming up here. The October surprise, something to roll off that midterm election, because

1423
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:56,280
there are some, uh, speed bumps that they've encountered. They're moving quick though. And

1424
01:50:56,280 --> 01:51:05,180
maybe by December, perhaps next year, it's going into this cashless, uh, environment and, and then

1425
01:51:05,180 --> 01:51:13,480
they got you. So this is a very dangerous precedent. And we're, as you said, Starbucks just started doing

1426
01:51:13,480 --> 01:51:20,120
it and other places are going to start doing it. I say boycott those places. Do not spend any money

1427
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:27,800
there. Vote with your dollar. We don't go along with that. And so here we are up against this

1428
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:35,820
behemoth that's making its big power move, not only in the U S but on planet earth. And we just happen

1429
01:51:35,820 --> 01:51:43,220
to be the most outspoken one, uh, country men that have the second amendment rights that can actually

1430
01:51:43,220 --> 01:51:49,760
defend themselves. That's why America is the showdown right now. That's why they want to take

1431
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:57,120
down this country because we are basically the only ones who can stand up to them. The Europeans are,

1432
01:51:57,220 --> 01:52:03,820
they're doing these big protests and stuff, but, uh, if it goes into the dark winter, which looks like

1433
01:52:03,820 --> 01:52:09,820
it's going to be in Europe, a very difficult time there. Uh, what do you do? How can you fight back?

1434
01:52:09,820 --> 01:52:16,500
They cut off your, uh, electricity and your gas, and then they cut off or put you on this, uh,

1435
01:52:16,500 --> 01:52:22,740
digital currency system and mark my words. I guarantee you that they will induce us with,

1436
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:31,540
Oh, sign up and be a part of this global currency and we'll stack you. We'll give you a free currency.

1437
01:52:31,700 --> 01:52:38,780
We'll give you a free clicks on your card every month if you go along with it. And, but then that's

1438
01:52:38,780 --> 01:52:45,140
when they got you. So it's going to sound really good and free money. And we've seen the government

1439
01:52:45,140 --> 01:52:51,680
give away free money all the time before, but it's, it's a trap. And I don't think, uh, it's going to

1440
01:52:51,680 --> 01:53:01,020
end well if we go down this digital currency route. We have, uh, California, for example, right now is

1441
01:53:01,020 --> 01:53:06,800
like a European country in and of itself. Um, you know, they're, they're, I had to laugh. They're

1442
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:14,020
going to go to, to all, uh, electric powered vehicles by the year, what? 2035 in California.

1443
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:20,460
And yet, uh, they're having a, uh, an electricity crisis right now in which you're telling people,

1444
01:53:20,460 --> 01:53:25,600
I believe it was over the Labor Day weekend. Uh, don't charge your car. Don't charge your electric

1445
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:31,960
car. Don't go anywhere in your car. Yeah. It's commie for me out here. I'm in California and

1446
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:40,080
I'm out of here soon. I just bought a, a ranch in Nevada. I'm getting ready to get out of here.

1447
01:53:40,660 --> 01:53:46,180
It's getting bad. And I know a lot of people I know in the truther community are also plotting

1448
01:53:46,180 --> 01:53:52,980
an escape. It's, uh, I fled in 2016. I literally like, I had to drag my leg, which wasn't working

1449
01:53:52,980 --> 01:54:00,440
like Igor dragged it behind me, got in my truck and just literally fled. Uh, I call it CIA of

1450
01:54:00,440 --> 01:54:09,620
Pornia, CIA of Pornia. Um, and then you have people like, uh, Harari from the world economic

1451
01:54:09,620 --> 01:54:14,800
forum that calls us all a bunch of useless eaters and says that people themselves can be replaced.

1452
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:23,000
Um, and I think they're using a lot of, you know, we can get into the COVID thing, uh, as a depopulation

1453
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:29,880
agenda to eliminate as much of humanity as possible and say, whatever resources are left

1454
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:36,480
for the powers that be. Control the food and you control the people. That's a Kissinger quote.

1455
01:54:37,180 --> 01:54:42,080
And they're trying to do that. Like shoes, Brad, you know, I know that my brother, David,

1456
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:45,620
when he was murdered, I didn't get his body back. And I believe that my brother, John is wearing

1457
01:54:45,620 --> 01:54:50,680
him his shoes. I like shoes a lot, Brad, don't get me wrong. I just don't want to be, I don't want

1458
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:57,060
to end up a pair of shoes. Yeah. Don't end up as red shoes. I don't like that. Nice yourself.

1459
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:02,440
I mean, this is how sick they are. And, and to your listeners, I know they're very sophisticated

1460
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:09,640
that know about the red shoe club. This is how depraved these globalists are. And we want to give

1461
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:14,780
them control of our money. We want to give them control of, well, they've already observed the

1462
01:55:14,780 --> 01:55:21,960
government, but this is where it's going. This is the worst form of neo-fascism that's ever been

1463
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:27,320
brought upon the people of the world. And we're watching it happen in slow motion in real time.

1464
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:33,640
Did you also see that there were like 23 States that voted on using human remains as fertilizer to

1465
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:40,580
put on our food? Yeah. And soylent green is real. And soylent green, it was like 22 years to the

1466
01:55:40,580 --> 01:55:48,600
day. They said, this is going to happen. Is this for real? You know, you want to eat COVID on your

1467
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:54,100
food or whatever diseases these individuals had. And they call them because they told me my brother

1468
01:55:54,100 --> 01:56:00,120
was liquidated. So they're going to liquidate the remains of these people and then use it as fertilizer

1469
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:05,700
to put on your food. All of a sudden you can see these little hands popping.

1470
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:14,700
It's just a hand that comes out. It looks like you can't make this stuff up. Life is stranger than

1471
01:56:14,700 --> 01:56:21,120
fiction. And they certainly use a lot of predictive programming like the movie Soylent Green, which

1472
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:27,440
takes place in 2022. Funny. And there's even products with the word Soylent in it, food products.

1473
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:33,880
It's like, who's going to buy that stuff? One of the guys that was a, he was a consultant

1474
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:43,080
for it. He actually ran a wastewater. Like he had a thing in Irvine, wasn't wastewater, but

1475
01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:48,540
it was like equivalent to that. It was like some kind of a dump that he ran. I wondered if

1476
01:56:48,540 --> 01:56:53,220
my brother actually worked for him because he worked for Hyperion water district. And he was

1477
01:56:53,220 --> 01:57:04,080
a consultant on Soylent Green. They mock us. They make fun of us. It's everything they do to us.

1478
01:57:04,220 --> 01:57:09,120
They make fun of us. But David, you know, that's, what's great about your memes and that you put out

1479
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:15,840
on Facebook and Penny, you share some funny stuff too. When we make fun of them, it's the best way to

1480
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:22,780
get through to people that when you try to put this heavy stuff out there, it doesn't always go

1481
01:57:22,780 --> 01:57:31,040
over so well. But when you show how bizarre they're thinking it through humor, that's the best way to

1482
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:37,640
approach this. And I think you and I have the same kind of sense of humor. And this is, John Lennon had

1483
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:42,340
a quote that the establishment, they're going to try to do everything they can to provoke you into violence.

1484
01:57:42,340 --> 01:57:48,760
They'll tug on your beard and poke you in the chest. But the one thing that they can't get through is

1485
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:55,920
this sarcasm and making fun of them. And this is how you know that they're not like us at all.

1486
01:57:56,620 --> 01:57:58,980
It's one big club and we ain't in it like ours.

1487
01:57:59,340 --> 01:58:02,800
They get buggered when you make fun of them.

1488
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:10,840
Yeah. In the publishing business, what do you look for in someone that you sign

1489
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:18,600
to write a book? I mean, obviously, you've just picked up Michael Jaco, Laura Eisenhower,

1490
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:23,060
who was on the program the last time you were here and she's coming up again, I think in a few days,

1491
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:28,100
she's going to be back in the program again. What type of individual do you look for? What type of

1492
01:58:28,100 --> 01:58:35,840
content does CCC Publishing look for? Well, I'm a small operation and I do get approached

1493
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:44,940
quite frequently by very good authors and books. And I wish I, maybe when I get my operation going

1494
01:58:44,940 --> 01:58:50,740
in Nevada, I'll be able to take on more authors. But right now I can only do one or two books per year.

1495
01:58:50,740 --> 01:58:57,940
Okay. And what I look for is just people that are out there like Laura and Michael Jaco, Leo Zagami,

1496
01:58:58,180 --> 01:59:04,300
who are doing their own shows and are doing interviews, who are basically speaking their

1497
01:59:04,300 --> 01:59:12,260
content. And of course, good writing is essential. And oftentimes it's good storytelling. That's when

1498
01:59:12,260 --> 01:59:17,320
a lot of people say, hey, I want to be a writer. What do I got to do? If you're a good storyteller,

1499
01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:25,860
the war is half one right there. It's being able to articulate your thoughts, ideas, pen to paper.

1500
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:33,020
Nowadays, it's keyboard to words and just getting it out there in such a way that is understandable.

1501
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:40,500
And as I said to Michael Jaco and Laura, when I signed them, that this is a period where this

1502
01:59:40,500 --> 01:59:46,320
information is really important. Your message is very important. And I pick them up as authors

1503
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:53,380
because I believe that what they're doing is going to help the human race advance in this very

1504
01:59:53,380 --> 02:00:00,960
critical time. So that's also a subtle part of it. But an important part is that these people have

1505
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:05,760
skin in the game, so to speak, and they're already out there with their message.

1506
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:13,120
Is there someone that you, like, for example, that's also in the truth of the community that

1507
02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:17,680
you would like to get that you haven't yet? Well, you kind of said you can only do one or two books

1508
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:22,580
a year. But I mean, do you see yourself down the road saying, going after, let's say, for example,

1509
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:27,760
Wano Sabin or Dr. Charlie Ward or someone along that line?

1510
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:33,000
And they both have books out themselves. So they're already doing it. They don't necessarily

1511
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:39,540
need me. I'll tell you one author I am courting is Alex Collier, who, again, has no books, but

1512
02:00:39,540 --> 02:00:44,780
a lot of material that we could draw from. And I'll be seeing him next month in Orlando

1513
02:00:44,780 --> 02:00:53,240
at the Influencers Conference third weekend in October. And it is his very last public appearance.

1514
02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:59,640
And so he's kind of the reluctant messiah. That's my joke with him. He doesn't even really want to

1515
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:04,700
be out in public and do it. But you should definitely try to get him on the dark outposts.

1516
02:01:04,700 --> 02:01:10,660
Great guy. And boy, he's been doing this for decades. And his message does not change. But

1517
02:01:10,660 --> 02:01:15,680
he's so articulate. And he's so passionate about this moment in time with human history that

1518
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:19,280
I think he'd be a great guest. And he'd be a great author, too.

1519
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:22,640
But he'd be a little reluctant to do too many interviews with him.

1520
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:26,520
Anything we should have on the show? Just text me, you know, their information.

1521
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:26,900
Sure.

1522
02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:28,360
We'll invite him on your board.

1523
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:34,920
Yeah, Alex is one of those guys. You don't even really see him on social media or putting

1524
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:45,180
himself out there. He does a series of video shows. However, he will not really... It's even

1525
02:01:45,180 --> 02:01:52,180
hard to get him through email. I do have a cell phone. But like people, I'd be very... Use

1526
02:01:52,180 --> 02:01:57,820
it only sparingly when I have a message to convey. But I'll see him face to face next month.

1527
02:01:57,820 --> 02:02:02,400
I understood. Anybody that you think that we should have on here, you can broker them.

1528
02:02:03,260 --> 02:02:03,860
All right.

1529
02:02:03,860 --> 02:02:13,680
Especially if you're working with them in some capacity, it'll help you to get the word out

1530
02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:16,900
through your publishing company and through your books. I mean, so, you know, we're happy

1531
02:02:16,900 --> 02:02:23,740
to do that. You've been on several speaking tours. The most recent time I spoke with you,

1532
02:02:23,820 --> 02:02:28,560
you were with Laura Eisenhower. We had the both of you on, kind of like in separate hours. You

1533
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:32,160
came on first and then you came on afterwards. Tell us about these tours.

1534
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:39,380
Well, they're mostly conferences or gatherings. So in the month of June, we were both speakers

1535
02:02:39,380 --> 02:02:46,640
at the Disclosure Fest down in Los Angeles. And then the opportunity came up for both of

1536
02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:55,320
us to speak at the Truth Tour with Louis Herms. And they just did on the day before 9-11,

1537
02:02:55,480 --> 02:03:01,560
the Truth-a-thon that Laura and I both spoke on. So we both are getting invited to speak at

1538
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:09,280
these conferences. And it's really interesting that both Laura and I started speaking at these

1539
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:16,080
conferences at mostly UFO or paranormal type conferences like Contact in the Desert. But

1540
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:23,360
now it is blended into the Truther community. So a lot of the Patriots. And so it's kind of

1541
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:28,600
interesting, the blending of different subject matters. But really what we're all interested

1542
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:35,160
in is just getting information out to the people that is really important at this very crucial,

1543
02:03:35,540 --> 02:03:41,600
pivotal moment in time. And because we both are not shy of getting up in front of a crowd,

1544
02:03:41,900 --> 02:03:49,400
did you know that speaking in front of a crowd is the biggest phobia of America's, even more than fear

1545
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:55,640
of heights or fear of death or fear of drowning? It's public speaking. And it is an art, I'll tell you.

1546
02:03:55,640 --> 02:04:02,800
It is one of the hardest things that I've endeavored to really try to master. Because getting up in front

1547
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:08,680
of a microphone, you got all these people that are just hanging on your every word. And unless you know

1548
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:15,180
what you're going to say and make a really good point of saying it and go along a logical framework

1549
02:04:15,180 --> 02:04:21,700
to get your message or your presentation out there, you can fall flat on your face. And I can see why people

1550
02:04:21,700 --> 02:04:27,700
are afraid of public speaking. And I've had those dreams, too, where I'm naked in front of a crowd.

1551
02:04:28,700 --> 02:04:30,260
Not like you were weird.

1552
02:04:34,200 --> 02:04:39,360
What types of people attend these conferences, for example? I mean, are these people who are

1553
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:47,780
yearning for something that the mainstream media isn't giving them? I mean, are they considered

1554
02:04:47,780 --> 02:04:55,480
by many to be weird individuals in that they talk about things that other people don't pay much

1555
02:04:55,480 --> 02:05:03,700
attention to? Or are they just everyday normal people who just are seeking truth, justice, and

1556
02:05:03,700 --> 02:05:08,740
a return to American values, for example?

1557
02:05:08,740 --> 02:05:16,460
Well, truly, all of that, David. And it's interesting that in the realm of UFO, extraterrestrial

1558
02:05:16,460 --> 02:05:23,440
exopolitics, that mainstream media won't touch this stuff, right? So it kind of, by default,

1559
02:05:23,620 --> 02:05:30,280
falls on this community who's very interested in this subject. So at these conferences that I speak of,

1560
02:05:30,300 --> 02:05:36,320
it's a lot of people who are very cutting edge in their thought, or at least being open-minded enough

1561
02:05:36,320 --> 02:05:42,200
to hear what the presenters have to say on these subjects. And to me, this is the most important

1562
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:47,040
thing we could talk about. This is what it's all about. This is the zeitgeist of the age that we

1563
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:53,540
live in. If we were to make meaningful contact with benevolent extraterrestrials, this is a complete

1564
02:05:53,540 --> 02:05:59,020
game changer. It would change everything. So isn't it interesting that the mainstream media and the

1565
02:05:59,020 --> 02:06:03,860
government even shies away from these things? They're giving us a little drip, drip, drip of

1566
02:06:03,860 --> 02:06:12,860
disclosure now, releasing grainy videos, the TikTok video. But come on, they know, and they have much

1567
02:06:12,860 --> 02:06:21,380
better video and footage that they could release, but they're not. So there is still this whole pal of

1568
02:06:21,380 --> 02:06:30,920
disinformation and not telling us the truth that comes into the sphere. And because we are what would

1569
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:40,480
be considered fringe, it is in many ways, a self-policing organization so that people who do

1570
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:46,520
come in as disinformationalists, well, after a while, people see through that. They're pretty

1571
02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:53,720
sophisticated in these conferences, the attendees, and even the speakers, that they'll basically just

1572
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:59,500
drop away. And I've seen that happen quite a few times in just the six, seven years that I've been

1573
02:06:59,500 --> 02:07:08,920
speaking at these conferences. And because we are self-policing in a way that we have to basically

1574
02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:13,780
call out those who are disinformationless. And David, I'll tell you this, this is really funny.

1575
02:07:13,940 --> 02:07:20,560
Penny, you'll find this interesting too, that every single one of these conferences has a disinformation

1576
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:29,380
agent that comes in to monitor what is being said. And so they're not interested

1577
02:07:29,380 --> 02:07:36,420
so much in what we're talking about, but what we're not talking about. Because that is what

1578
02:07:36,420 --> 02:07:36,900
they're still...

1579
02:07:36,900 --> 02:07:43,160
Somebody comes in and infiltrates this? I mean, they don't speak themselves. They don't come up on stage.

1580
02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:51,220
They're just there in the audience to monitor what is not being said. Because they're keeping

1581
02:07:51,220 --> 02:08:00,180
tracks at how advanced this disclosure community is getting. So if you start delving into, say,

1582
02:08:00,260 --> 02:08:06,440
for example, zero-poor energy, if you start showing schematics about how these crafts fly,

1583
02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:13,620
if you start explaining how free energy technology works, that is going to set off some alarms.

1584
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:19,000
So there are certain things they do not want us to talk about. And they will come in there with

1585
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:25,760
the red herring and try to throw you off in the question and answer part of it. But the thing is,

1586
02:08:26,100 --> 02:08:33,500
people are starting to be able to read auras. And somebody who's coming in as a liar or deceitful,

1587
02:08:33,500 --> 02:08:39,400
they'll have more of a red aura around their body. And so a lot of times, these disinformation

1588
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:46,180
agents, they just stand out like a sore thumb, because it's so clear that they're from one of

1589
02:08:46,180 --> 02:08:53,620
these alphabet agencies to come in and monitor the events. And then so they don't really... For me,

1590
02:08:53,860 --> 02:09:02,580
I don't give them much credibility. We had this one guy at a conference in Las Vegas two years ago.

1591
02:09:02,580 --> 02:09:06,820
It's hilarious. We still laugh about him. Of course, he gives us a fake name, but he says,

1592
02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:16,040
yeah, I'm from Langley, Virginia. And all these veiled little tips that he is. Yeah. One of these

1593
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:21,060
alphabet agency guys. So after some of these conferences, I've got a core group of people.

1594
02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:25,760
We just like to hang out with each other and do cool things. And when you're down there and

1595
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:32,600
go to the casinos, that's boring. But to go out to Area 51 for a skywatch. And he just

1596
02:09:32,600 --> 02:09:38,840
wanted to come with us and do it. And we're like, yeah, whatever, dude. Your disinformation is like,

1597
02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:42,500
well, I get access to Area 51, don't you know? Yeah, sure you do.

1598
02:09:42,500 --> 02:09:43,160
Oh, God.

1599
02:09:44,060 --> 02:09:46,400
Do you ever have hecklers? Pardon?

1600
02:09:46,900 --> 02:09:51,860
Do you ever have hecklers? I mean, people who just try to disparage the speakers in any way?

1601
02:09:52,500 --> 02:09:57,120
Sometimes. Yeah. And it's usually these guys, usually these disinformationalists.

1602
02:09:57,120 --> 02:10:07,120
But they're lower vibration people. So oftentimes they'll get heckled for being a heckler. Or if

1603
02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:12,100
they're trying to throw a red herring into the conversation, it'll be very obvious that this

1604
02:10:12,100 --> 02:10:18,400
is what they're doing. Just keep in mind that a disinformation agent will tell you mind-blowing

1605
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:25,920
truths 90% of the time. But it's that red herring, that 10% of the time that they're trying to inject

1606
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:32,000
whatever direction of narrative that they want to take it. And that's when it became so obvious

1607
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:32,800
who they are.

1608
02:10:34,540 --> 02:10:40,340
Have you ever, you or any of the other speakers during these conferences, any ever called someone

1609
02:10:40,340 --> 02:10:45,740
out, you know, like, and actually said, okay, you're obviously a plant. You're here in the audience

1610
02:10:45,740 --> 02:10:49,560
to try to, I mean, has anyone ever confronted one of these guys or women?

1611
02:10:50,680 --> 02:10:55,180
Oh, yeah. Yeah. This guy, Gregory, not his real name, but that's the name he gave us.

1612
02:10:55,180 --> 02:11:03,380
He wanted to come to the Skywatch in Rachel Nevada with us. We called him out. And yeah,

1613
02:11:03,620 --> 02:11:07,960
just someone gave him his phone number and he kept calling. Hey, what are you guys doing? Where

1614
02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:11,480
are you at? I want to come and join you. That kind of thing. It's just like, blow him off. Don't

1615
02:11:11,480 --> 02:11:18,620
give him the time of day. We know who he is and just don't even let him get into the conversation

1616
02:11:18,620 --> 02:11:19,900
to muddy the waters.

1617
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:28,660
What do you think, getting back to the ETs and the UFOs, is the biggest reason the government

1618
02:11:28,660 --> 02:11:35,060
has withheld this information and or when they do release it, it's only a trickle of information.

1619
02:11:35,380 --> 02:11:37,980
I have my own theory, but I want to get yours first, Brad.

1620
02:11:37,980 --> 02:11:44,640
Good. Yeah. Well, look, the highest level of classification is called Cosmic Top Secret

1621
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:51,120
with the UN and within our military organization. So to have this kind of clearance

1622
02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:59,800
is the highest priority, right? So you know that there's information that they're sitting on,

1623
02:12:00,460 --> 02:12:07,000
technology as well. This is top secret because they're backward engineering this technology.

1624
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:14,360
So in future esoteric, I get into all of these reasons why this information has been kept

1625
02:12:14,360 --> 02:12:24,540
silent for 70 plus years. Ever since we retrieved crash at Roswell and elsewhere, I would go to

1626
02:12:24,540 --> 02:12:32,060
some of the early, not only conference speakers, but authors and whistleblowers such as William

1627
02:12:32,060 --> 02:12:40,660
Cooper. And he said that the next crash after Roswell took place at Aztec, New Mexico. And what

1628
02:12:40,660 --> 02:12:48,460
they found in that crash disc sent chills down the spine of everybody who was involved in that crash

1629
02:12:48,460 --> 02:12:56,500
retrieval, because what they found were human body parts. And so when you also consider that this

1630
02:12:56,500 --> 02:13:04,780
also goes into abduction and missing persons and the cattle mutilations, they just had to stop and say,

1631
02:13:04,900 --> 02:13:14,320
hey, the citizens of this country cannot be privy to this information. And it's interesting that now

1632
02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:23,360
that I'm working with Laura Eisenhower, one of her chapters in her new book is all about recognizing

1633
02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:33,140
Eisenhower and the very precarious position that he was put in, in the early 1950s, right after the flyover

1634
02:13:33,140 --> 02:13:45,000
of Washington, DC. And this goes back to, yeah. And so he was put in a position that, how are you going to

1635
02:13:45,000 --> 02:13:52,220
tell this to the American people, that we're being basically blackmailed by this malevolent ET group?

1636
02:13:52,780 --> 02:13:57,400
And yeah, they're doing a lot of nefarious things and the people have a right to know, but how can you

1637
02:13:57,400 --> 02:14:03,780
possibly tell them when body parts are being found in some of these downed crafts? So that's why it went

1638
02:14:03,780 --> 02:14:10,540
top secret, cosmic top secret, and only a very few knew. And then some of those who did come out that

1639
02:14:10,540 --> 02:14:18,540
were cosmic top secret, like Bob Dean, and a few others. Well, they get ridiculed, they get

1640
02:14:18,540 --> 02:14:25,320
marginalized, they get called all these names that we get called, just for seeking the truth. And just

1641
02:14:25,320 --> 02:14:30,180
for being a whistleblower who is brave enough to come out with it. And Penny, you brought up

1642
02:14:30,180 --> 02:14:39,280
Phil Schneider, and him and Bill Cooper, they were both executed. They're both killed.

1643
02:14:39,280 --> 02:14:42,060
Yeah. So this is a dangerous field to be in.

1644
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:44,140
I think I might have known Bill Cooper.

1645
02:14:44,940 --> 02:14:48,560
Really? Wow. I would have loved to have gone to one of his lectures.

1646
02:14:48,560 --> 02:14:57,740
I was erased a lot. Okay. So when I was brought out and sold with my first handler, who was my

1647
02:14:57,740 --> 02:15:07,360
manager as a singer, I started gigging in Lake Havasu and in Arizona. And when I call it coming out of

1648
02:15:07,360 --> 02:15:14,320
a coma, when I started awakening, I called it pretty much a coma, because I wasn't available to any of

1649
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:22,940
the things that had happened to me. I saw a video with Bill Cooper, I started crying. And when I write,

1650
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:29,680
I write in code, because that's one of the things that I do. I do cryptography, I guess it's that what

1651
02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:36,400
you call it. I decipher ciphers. And I also write in code. So when I started writing Bradford and

1652
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:43,640
Valentine, it was actually going to be a television series. And it was predicated upon Lucifer, Castle,

1653
02:15:43,640 --> 02:15:51,140
and the television series called Psyched, which is about two kids that they were trained, like I was,

1654
02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:56,620
they were trained on situational awareness, acute situational awareness. And then he said that he was

1655
02:15:56,620 --> 02:16:01,540
a psychic. But in fact, he wasn't, he was just very acutely situationally aware. And of course,

1656
02:16:01,620 --> 02:16:09,060
Lucifer, and then Castle. And when I started writing it, I wasn't aware of the fact that I was actually

1657
02:16:09,060 --> 02:16:14,660
writing about real characters. So my one character, I had three characters, which is another way that I

1658
02:16:14,660 --> 02:16:22,240
actually integrated myself. For a year, I was writing this book, television series. And in there,

1659
02:16:22,240 --> 02:16:29,360
Laura Adora Valentine is a DEA agent. She has a white shepherd named Cooper that wears a vest because

1660
02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:35,760
he doesn't want to get shot. And I wrote a backstory for the dog. Well, Bill Cooper, when I saw him, I was

1661
02:16:35,760 --> 02:16:40,620
like, he looks familiar. And I need to talk to this person. I found out he was dead. He was shot

1662
02:16:40,620 --> 02:16:47,380
in Arizona. He didn't wear a vest. He also called people sheeple. And he had sheep.

1663
02:16:47,380 --> 02:16:54,340
Yeah. And I remember when the first interview I did with Carrie Cassidy, she asked me about Bill

1664
02:16:54,340 --> 02:17:01,460
Cooper, and I started crying on the air. So I think at some juncture, I might have met him had some kind

1665
02:17:01,460 --> 02:17:09,800
of interaction with them in Arizona in the 80s. Because that's when I was I was gigging out there,

1666
02:17:09,800 --> 02:17:17,500
Parker, I gigged all over. When I went back after 50 years, or 40 years, I spent 40 days and 40 nights

1667
02:17:17,500 --> 02:17:23,480
in the desert with my handler, who I believe is the son of Albert Spears. And then I started going to

1668
02:17:23,480 --> 02:17:28,260
these places. And I was like, I remember this place. I remember this place. It's right by the

1669
02:17:28,260 --> 02:17:35,380
London Bridge. So remember, I couldn't walk or talk. So I started healing myself. I got up all the drugs

1670
02:17:35,380 --> 02:17:40,020
that the doctors put me on. There were a team of doctors working on me. They put me on like 50

1671
02:17:40,020 --> 02:17:48,860
different drugs. And I walked down to the lake from his house. He said he had six exotic cars. But

1672
02:17:48,860 --> 02:17:53,720
yet when I got there, no car was availed to me. So I had to walk everywhere that I went. So I walked

1673
02:17:53,720 --> 02:18:00,680
down to Lake Havasu down to the lake. And as you know, when London Bridge is falling down, when the queen

1674
02:18:00,680 --> 02:18:07,040
dies, London Bridge was actually retrieved by McCulloch, who built Lake Havasu City. Also,

1675
02:18:07,300 --> 02:18:15,620
Disney's engineer, Disney's engineer or architect, he built the streets in Lake Havasu, which is weird

1676
02:18:15,620 --> 02:18:21,940
there, because there's some kind of a magnetic thing there, where my GPS kept going off. And there's

1677
02:18:21,940 --> 02:18:28,460
weird, like, I was going to the Starbucks, by the way. And I couldn't get into the Starbucks. You had

1678
02:18:28,460 --> 02:18:32,880
to like circle around like five different times to try and get in. It was a very weird, there's a lot

1679
02:18:32,880 --> 02:18:41,280
of, a lot of car people there. So my first handler was a race car driver. And he was very wealthy. And

1680
02:18:41,280 --> 02:18:47,040
when I went back there, it's because I'm breaking out of MK Ultra. And so they want to know what I

1681
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:52,520
know, and they know I'm writing. And it took me a year. Like I said, I wrote a backstory for the dog.

1682
02:18:52,680 --> 02:18:57,100
And then I found out that the people that I was writing about, which I thought I was making up,

1683
02:18:57,100 --> 02:19:02,900
James Patterson, as you know, a very prolific writer has, I don't know, at that time, he had

1684
02:19:02,900 --> 02:19:08,560
something like 137 books. So I took his masterclass, because I'd forgotten, I forgot I was a singer. And

1685
02:19:08,560 --> 02:19:14,980
I've been singing for 50 years. So I was recovering memories. So I was like, all right, I need to learn

1686
02:19:14,980 --> 02:19:19,420
how to write all over again. So I took James Patterson's masterclass. And then I started writing

1687
02:19:19,420 --> 02:19:25,320
Bradford and Valentine, which initially started out as a saltwater cowboy. And then I'm reviewing my life

1688
02:19:25,320 --> 02:19:30,360
with the people that I live with, and I'm writing in code. So they want me back there.

1689
02:19:30,720 --> 02:19:37,360
CIA puts me back in play again. And I contact both my handlers, because that's what you're supposed to do,

1690
02:19:37,640 --> 02:19:41,540
because you're an asset. So you go back to your handlers, who are actually like your generals.

1691
02:19:42,120 --> 02:19:45,400
And then Darrell says, Hey, you want to be a snowbird? And I'm like, what's that? Right?

1692
02:19:46,140 --> 02:19:50,700
Because I'm from California. I'm actually born in Florida. So, you know, I don't live in a cold state.

1693
02:19:50,700 --> 02:19:54,400
But now I'm in Illinois. And he says, Well, you'll know when it starts snowing. So they make

1694
02:19:54,400 --> 02:20:00,140
me homeless. And then, of course, now I go back to the handlers that I would have never gone back to,

1695
02:20:00,340 --> 02:20:07,640
because I was sold by this individual, I was beaten, I was raped. He wanted me to marry him. And I said,

1696
02:20:07,720 --> 02:20:14,200
no, but I forgive him now, because I think he's Christian. He's just not, he's just a psycho.

1697
02:20:14,200 --> 02:20:20,480
And nothing changes, because the psychopathic nature doesn't change. So you go back to that

1698
02:20:20,480 --> 02:20:25,640
same individual, 40 years from now, they're going to be the same individual that they were before,

1699
02:20:25,720 --> 02:20:31,220
they're going to be constructive liars, because they're psychopaths. I said that both my handlers

1700
02:20:31,220 --> 02:20:36,960
should be given a lifetime achievement award for impersonating a human being, that many, that many

1701
02:20:36,960 --> 02:20:46,440
lives. So when I saw Cooper, I recognized him, he looked very familiar. I had a conversation with

1702
02:20:46,440 --> 02:20:53,940
him at one point. I don't know, I played in 1000s of places. You know, all over the United States. So

1703
02:20:53,940 --> 02:21:00,300
and I slept with a lot of people, too, because I was sex menage. So I was trained beta programming.

1704
02:21:01,340 --> 02:21:05,200
That's one of the things that I did. So, you know, I was like, did I sleep with them?

1705
02:21:05,200 --> 02:21:10,100
You know, but I know that I knew this person, and I recognize him. And then when I found him,

1706
02:21:10,140 --> 02:21:15,940
he was dead. So when Carrie had asked me about him, I started crying. Because I was like, I know,

1707
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:21,880
I know him, but I don't know how. And that was like five years ago. So from the five years when I first

1708
02:21:21,880 --> 02:21:27,000
spoke with her, I've grown exponentially, because I research every single day and night. And then when

1709
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:32,960
I was declared enemy of the state, which I believe each and every one of us right here have been

1710
02:21:32,960 --> 02:21:38,780
declared enemy of the state. Maybe you're not feeling the impact as much as some who have had

1711
02:21:38,780 --> 02:21:45,260
their YouTube channels taken down carries had her taken down, or they've been disavowed, like Megan

1712
02:21:45,260 --> 02:21:51,980
Walsh, they've been had their homes taken from them, like myself. And, you know, then financial and

1713
02:21:51,980 --> 02:21:57,760
just financially and disrepair been made homeless, you know, at been told that they're crazy,

1714
02:21:57,760 --> 02:22:05,580
diagnosis crazy, which by MKUltra doctors, because of what you know, and when it starts coming forward,

1715
02:22:05,580 --> 02:22:10,060
and you find out, you know, I was told, you don't know what you know, until you know it,

1716
02:22:10,060 --> 02:22:13,700
I was like, really, you're going to do that platitude thing. You don't know what you know,

1717
02:22:13,700 --> 02:22:19,880
until you know it. And they were right, I did not know what I knew until I knew it. And then when I

1718
02:22:19,880 --> 02:22:25,780
found out I was 11 and stranger things, I emailed my handler. Of course, they're not responding

1719
02:22:25,780 --> 02:22:31,260
anymore. And I said, I know that little girl is me. And, you know, and then I did more research

1720
02:22:31,260 --> 02:22:36,220
because I am a writer. So I know, and I'm also an actress trained actress, I was trained at New York

1721
02:22:36,220 --> 02:22:45,500
University under Stella Adler, who also trained Marlon Brando and Robert De Niro. And then when I

1722
02:22:45,500 --> 02:22:50,560
start researching that, I find out that method acting is actually Russian mind control. So I studied

1723
02:22:50,560 --> 02:22:56,320
Stanskovsky to find out who's who was Stanskovsky. That wasn't even his name. His name, he's Russian

1724
02:22:56,320 --> 02:23:02,900
royalty. And method acting was fun was actually funded by Lenin. And by some of the strongest

1725
02:23:02,900 --> 02:23:10,540
scientific minds. At that time, they formed the basis for method acting, why would you need

1726
02:23:10,540 --> 02:23:16,000
scientific minds to form the basis of method acting when in fact, I believe that it's spy training.

1727
02:23:16,000 --> 02:23:22,200
Number one, what does spy have to do? He has to be a good actor, right? He has to be able to change

1728
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:28,220
faces at any time. He has to be able to emulate people. And if you think the CIA is not staffed

1729
02:23:28,220 --> 02:23:33,840
with these individuals, I'm telling the public that you need to think differently because they do have

1730
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:39,440
masks, just like they have a Mission Impossible, where they can put it over the face. You've seen

1731
02:23:39,440 --> 02:23:46,480
a white girl with a black mask on looking like a black woman and they take it off and it's a white

1732
02:23:46,480 --> 02:23:51,160
woman underneath it. My brother had written a couple of books. One was The Whistleblower and another one

1733
02:23:51,160 --> 02:23:59,340
was called Chitago Road in which his characters, because he was framed and put in a prison in Georgia

1734
02:23:59,340 --> 02:24:06,380
and he was raped every day. And so he was going to write a book about Chitago Road about a white guy

1735
02:24:06,380 --> 02:24:12,220
in an all black prison. And then, and he says at the end of it, they'll take the masks off and the

1736
02:24:12,220 --> 02:24:16,280
white guys played by a black guy and the black guys played by a white guy. But we know that that's

1737
02:24:16,280 --> 02:24:25,300
actually possible in today's realm. So, you know, for myself, when I saw Cooper, I was like, and the fact

1738
02:24:25,300 --> 02:24:32,460
that I named my dog, it was a white shepherd. I named the white shepherd Cooper. And then when I

1739
02:24:32,460 --> 02:24:39,220
saw Cooper, I started crying. So can I say with all alacrity that I actually positively knew him?

1740
02:24:40,000 --> 02:24:46,560
No, but does my feeling inside here say, yes, you, you talk to him sometime at Parker, maybe on one of

1741
02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:52,780
those barges and which people visited you. And then you went out on a party barge and he was on that

1742
02:24:52,780 --> 02:24:59,740
party barge or, or you visit him in a home that was, uh, in Arizona. You know, I think so. And he

1743
02:24:59,740 --> 02:25:07,240
was also military intel, which people don't know about. Naval intelligence. Yeah. He died in Eagan,

1744
02:25:07,740 --> 02:25:17,940
Arizona. Yeah. Shot by, uh, sheriff deputies. And so my character, Cooper is a white shepherd that

1745
02:25:17,940 --> 02:25:23,240
was a best because he doesn't want to get shot. I mean, it was like very specific about the things.

1746
02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:28,760
And then when I start writing the names of my characters, I'm thinking, um, you know, Patterson

1747
02:25:28,760 --> 02:25:32,620
says, Hey, if you can't think of names, there's this name generator thing, right? So it generates

1748
02:25:32,620 --> 02:25:38,520
like 40 names. And I pick out these names. Brad Bradford is the FBI agent. Who's his best friend

1749
02:25:38,520 --> 02:25:44,680
is Thaddeus Jones. Right. And they grew up together. Well, I look and I find out, Oh my God,

1750
02:25:44,760 --> 02:25:53,260
it's Carl Thaddeus Mengele. And my handlers knew one another. I found out my agent was my brother

1751
02:25:53,260 --> 02:26:00,120
from my first husband, Steve Zenos, who tells me then he dies three weeks later. And then I find out

1752
02:26:00,120 --> 02:26:05,480
these individuals have known each other since they were children. And when I, when, uh, my first handler

1753
02:26:05,480 --> 02:26:10,860
takes me back to California, when I go out there in 2016, 2017, he drives me back to California.

1754
02:26:11,020 --> 02:26:17,980
And then he takes me to my former agent's high school, which I just found out that was his high

1755
02:26:17,980 --> 02:26:25,200
school. Cause I didn't know anything about him. And I was like, he goes, uh, Oh, I don't even know

1756
02:26:25,200 --> 02:26:29,940
why I drove here. And so I said, well, maybe you came here to pick up another 17 year old drill

1757
02:26:29,940 --> 02:26:35,400
because that's when he met me when I was in high school. Only in the reality, he met me when I was a

1758
02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:45,460
child in the program. Wow. So you come out of the programs, the one that I found out that I was in,

1759
02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:51,880
it was called a project Genesis. The sub project is Eve, which is a cloning project. And when we talk

1760
02:26:51,880 --> 02:26:57,020
about the ETs, I've talked to those ETs, I've talked to them all my life. And when I was made,

1761
02:26:57,120 --> 02:27:01,940
when I was coming out of MK ultra and I was going through Nevada, I heard a voice in my head

1762
02:27:01,940 --> 02:27:06,220
because I'd been, I lived in Nevada for a year and I gigged out there, gigged on the strip.

1763
02:27:07,180 --> 02:27:14,500
And, um, when I heard this voice in my head and I'm not schizophrenic, just one time when I was

1764
02:27:14,500 --> 02:27:19,660
driving to Nevada, there was a voice and it said, I'd like to go back to area 51. It was nicer there.

1765
02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:24,920
And I was like, what? I'd like to go back to area 51. It was nicer there.

1766
02:27:24,920 --> 02:27:27,620
I didn't ask, where are you now?

1767
02:27:30,140 --> 02:27:36,480
Wow. So I've been talking to these, these benevolent and benevolence because the

1768
02:27:36,480 --> 02:27:42,520
benevolence around you since I was a child, since I was an infant, because I was in this program from

1769
02:27:42,520 --> 02:27:47,740
infancy. And when I start researching a little bit further, then I find out that I start asking

1770
02:27:47,740 --> 02:27:52,000
questions. I say, why does John look like Joseph Mingley? Why do I look like Irene Schoenbein who

1771
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:55,840
married Joseph Mingley? And why does my murdered brother, David, who wrote a book entitled The

1772
02:27:55,840 --> 02:28:00,620
Whistleblower about the Vatican bush and my evil deep state family? Why does he look like Rolf,

1773
02:28:00,740 --> 02:28:07,040
their son, who Rolf is still alive? Every time I see Rolf, I cry too. I'm a very emotive individual

1774
02:28:07,040 --> 02:28:11,700
because I'm an empath. So you'll hear me say I'm crying a lot. I don't live there. I try to laugh

1775
02:28:11,700 --> 02:28:19,160
as much as possible because that's the, that's the life that we breathe through is to have joy in our

1776
02:28:19,160 --> 02:28:25,760
lives. That's what I loved about Kathy O'Brien. She's very joyful. And I was just blessed to,

1777
02:28:25,900 --> 02:28:31,080
to speak to her for the first time yesterday and find out a little bit more about her journey,

1778
02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:33,640
which is congruent somewhat with mine as well.

1779
02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:44,760
Yeah. Anybody who's been through the programs, I have nothing but the utmost compassion for you

1780
02:28:44,760 --> 02:28:52,300
having had to deal with that. I have a chapter in Beyond Esoteric all about MKUltra. And I've met

1781
02:28:52,300 --> 02:28:59,260
quite a few people who have come out of the programs. Some of them are in, in the secret space program

1782
02:28:59,260 --> 02:29:07,380
too. And having their memories swiped and the amount of abuse that people who have been in these

1783
02:29:07,380 --> 02:29:14,260
programs have endured is just, for someone who hasn't been in them, I just can't imagine

1784
02:29:14,260 --> 02:29:19,380
the kind of mind fuckery that people have had.

1785
02:29:19,380 --> 02:29:27,660
Yeah. I like the way Penny puts it. I think we've all been MKUltra only to one degree or another. Some

1786
02:29:27,660 --> 02:29:32,440
of us don't realize it. Some of us has been like what Penny's gone through has been so horrific

1787
02:29:32,440 --> 02:29:40,360
that at the age of 58, you just started beginning to get some of these memories back. And she's

1788
02:29:40,360 --> 02:29:44,820
been uncovering this mystery ever since. It's an ongoing process. Right, Penny?

1789
02:29:45,240 --> 02:29:48,880
You know, Brad, we talked about this one story. I'd just like to get everyone's opinion on this

1790
02:29:48,880 --> 02:29:54,300
this morning. It was a featured story, so I don't know if you heard it. It was out of Houston,

1791
02:29:54,400 --> 02:29:58,820
a Texas woman arrested on charges. She made death threats to a judge in Mar-a-Lago documents case.

1792
02:29:58,820 --> 02:30:05,640
So I got Alan Fountain's opinion on this. And the woman was arrested for allegedly making death

1793
02:30:05,640 --> 02:30:10,880
threats against Aline Cannon, who's the judge presiding over former Donald Trump's court fight.

1794
02:30:11,120 --> 02:30:21,040
She said she was an assassin for Donald Trump. And she also said she identified her. Hopefully,

1795
02:30:21,240 --> 02:30:27,060
you do watch movies. She identified herself in the calls as a federal agent named Evelyn Salt.

1796
02:30:28,820 --> 02:30:34,700
And that's the name of the spy character played by Angelina Jolie in the 2010 movie Salt.

1797
02:30:35,540 --> 02:30:40,440
So she says she made a number of outlandish comments in the September 1 call saying she's

1798
02:30:40,440 --> 02:30:44,820
in charge of nuclear for the country, has a license to kill. And at one point in the voicemail,

1799
02:30:44,880 --> 02:30:49,800
she said she was working for Trump as his hitman. And then another point, she accused Trump of having

1800
02:30:49,800 --> 02:30:55,080
orchestrated the September 11th attacks and claimed he's marked for assassination as well,

1801
02:30:55,080 --> 02:31:02,060
they said. Juana Sabina has talked about them about being arrested. And we already know that

1802
02:31:02,060 --> 02:31:07,540
there have been many assassination attempts. So I looked at this and I was I just found this this

1803
02:31:07,540 --> 02:31:16,180
morning. I was like, ding, you know, I believe this is a classic case of MK Ultra, a triggered individual.

1804
02:31:16,180 --> 02:31:24,720
And she is a covert agent. She's not awake. She's being triggered. But her mom said she is bipolar and

1805
02:31:24,720 --> 02:31:32,000
schizophrenic. And that's what they do in these programs, especially MK Ultra is to fracture the

1806
02:31:32,000 --> 02:31:41,660
mind. And one of the goals is to create these Manchurian candidate or assassin on demand. And if

1807
02:31:41,660 --> 02:31:47,200
they happen to get caught, that their fractured mind, they might not even remember what they've

1808
02:31:47,200 --> 02:31:54,580
done. And that's the whole goal of it. In the movie Manchurian Candidate, that was one of the

1809
02:31:54,580 --> 02:32:03,140
telltale signs is that they could lose their memory of even doing some of these very notorious acts.

1810
02:32:03,140 --> 02:32:12,220
So they can have a certain event or trigger word, get you to commit some sort of an action, and then

1811
02:32:12,220 --> 02:32:17,360
something else makes you immediately forget it afterwards. So that so that if you are being

1812
02:32:17,360 --> 02:32:24,000
interrogated about it, you really don't believe you did it. So in essence, it comes out as being

1813
02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:30,220
truthful, right? Beat the box in a polygraph is they create the altars for the soldiers. And then when

1814
02:32:30,220 --> 02:32:35,400
the altar gets on the stand, the altar says, Well, I wasn't there, because the altar wasn't there,

1815
02:32:35,400 --> 02:32:41,800
the main person or the other altar, you know, maybe he's in his main person, and then he can

1816
02:32:41,800 --> 02:32:46,460
testify with clarity and alacrity. No, I wasn't there. I don't know what you're talking about.

1817
02:32:46,760 --> 02:32:53,140
In this instance, this is what I focused on when I looked at the character salt, right? So I played a

1818
02:32:53,140 --> 02:32:59,980
little video about it. Salt was actually a sleeper agent. And she was pointed out by the

1819
02:32:59,980 --> 02:33:09,040
Russians, that they were her that she was their acquisition. So now we know that the CIA uses

1820
02:33:09,040 --> 02:33:15,800
movies to, to put in the public purview, coded information, which they want to put out there.

1821
02:33:15,940 --> 02:33:21,860
So this individual, there was another individual who went to the CIA, asking for this was years ago,

1822
02:33:21,860 --> 02:33:30,500
asking for agent penis. She went there like, went there like three times. And this was after NASA,

1823
02:33:30,920 --> 02:33:37,180
you know, painted a penis in the sky. There was the same guy had two of those penis sightings. I'm

1824
02:33:37,180 --> 02:33:41,200
like, what, you know, did you grow up and want to be a writer and just write about that? Seriously,

1825
02:33:41,340 --> 02:33:46,540
could you write about anything else? But this individual, she was apprehended,

1826
02:33:46,540 --> 02:33:51,360
she went into the CIA office. And then they said, well, maybe there's somebody in the bowels of

1827
02:33:51,360 --> 02:33:57,200
Langley. That is, you know, agent penis is going to save the world. I mean, that's disgusting, really.

1828
02:33:58,780 --> 02:34:02,900
It's funny how sex always works its way back into these programs.

1829
02:34:03,340 --> 02:34:03,760
Yes.

1830
02:34:04,600 --> 02:34:04,840
Yeah.

1831
02:34:04,840 --> 02:34:14,380
It's a vulnerability, especially of men. And that's why these, uh, honey traps are so effective.

1832
02:34:14,860 --> 02:34:22,140
That's what Epstein Island was all about is blackmailing people, most, especially men to get

1833
02:34:22,140 --> 02:34:27,720
them into these situations where they're compromised. And then they film it. And then they show them the

1834
02:34:27,720 --> 02:34:29,800
film and say, look, we gotcha.

1835
02:34:29,800 --> 02:34:31,980
Hey, tell me what we had on yesterday, Penny.

1836
02:34:31,980 --> 02:34:40,720
Um, yesterday. Yeah. In the, in the, in the first hour, the, uh, the author, William Steele,

1837
02:34:40,980 --> 02:34:49,580
who said that he, uh, he just, he spent 18 years in prison for, uh, he was like an international

1838
02:34:49,580 --> 02:34:57,060
jewel thief and he got out of prison, but he met Jeffrey Epstein back. I think he said back in 2005.

1839
02:34:57,060 --> 02:35:03,840
Uh, I think it was in New York city. Uh, I think he said it was in some sort of a barbershop or

1840
02:35:03,840 --> 02:35:07,940
something. And he was in, Epstein was in a barbershop with a 14 year old girl. He had his

1841
02:35:07,940 --> 02:35:12,960
hands down her pants. He knew something was wrong. He followed him. He got, he confronted him, but not

1842
02:35:12,960 --> 02:35:18,240
really confronted him. We got to know him a little bit, uh, became kind of friends with him and

1843
02:35:18,240 --> 02:35:25,380
Ghislaine Maxwell spent some time with them. He said he was involved in some, uh, romantic

1844
02:35:25,380 --> 02:35:31,380
tryst, well, threesomes, that sort of thing, but only with adults, only with adults, but that

1845
02:35:31,380 --> 02:35:38,300
Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein showed him videos that they had of prominent politicians like,

1846
02:35:38,360 --> 02:35:44,340
uh, Prince Andrew and Hillary Clinton having sex with underage girls. And they were using those

1847
02:35:44,340 --> 02:35:50,400
blackmail. And then he said at one point he was asked by Ghislaine to kill Jeffrey Epstein

1848
02:35:50,400 --> 02:35:54,960
because she didn't like him anymore. It was afraid of him or something. And she, and he

1849
02:35:54,960 --> 02:36:03,100
wouldn't do it, but I mean, you know, there's on the behest of HRC. Yeah. Of the blackmail

1850
02:36:03,100 --> 02:36:08,940
that he had, because blackmail is the currency, which the FBI people forget that, you know, Hoover

1851
02:36:08,940 --> 02:36:15,840
was the inception of the FBI. He was a Satanist and he was a tutu wearing, right? Tutu wearing

1852
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:26,060
full on claim, you know, homosexual and his currency was blackmail. So when they are, when

1853
02:36:26,060 --> 02:36:31,520
they're taking the women and they're beta programming them, they're going to put them at some point

1854
02:36:31,520 --> 02:36:40,060
in play into the honeypotting situation. Yep. The FBI building is still the J. Edgar Hoover

1855
02:36:40,060 --> 02:36:48,660
FBI building in Washington, DC. He was the most notorious for being a cross-dresser, but, uh,

1856
02:36:48,860 --> 02:36:58,120
to entrap people and honeypot them so they could blackmail them. This is the depravity and levels

1857
02:36:58,120 --> 02:37:06,360
that these captured organizations in our government have gone to control people. And it absolutely

1858
02:37:06,360 --> 02:37:13,240
needs to be understood how they're able to do it and by what means. And that's what Epstein Island

1859
02:37:13,240 --> 02:37:20,800
was all about. Uh, so now that this is starting to come out, people can have an idea of, of how they

1860
02:37:20,800 --> 02:37:28,420
were able to do these operations, but on the back end, how those agents who went through the MK ultra

1861
02:37:28,420 --> 02:37:36,520
programs, this goes all the way back to the, uh, paperclip Nazis and MK ultra was, was how they did

1862
02:37:36,520 --> 02:37:41,940
it in Germany. I mean, there's a page right out of the, the German playbook. That's why it's spelled

1863
02:37:41,940 --> 02:37:54,180
MK. Uh, K is German spelling for K O N R O N T O L L E. It's German. But many people don't realize

1864
02:37:54,180 --> 02:38:02,400
it's proliferation also, uh, was extreme in Florida, which is where I was born in Hollywood

1865
02:38:02,400 --> 02:38:09,220
because Warner Von Braun was, you know, operating our space program in Cape Canaveral. And then we had,

1866
02:38:09,220 --> 02:38:14,860
uh, the, the mafia contingency, which was, which was there under operation underworld working with

1867
02:38:14,860 --> 02:38:21,100
Meyer Lansky, who was operating out of the fountain blue hotel, working also in conjunction with our,

1868
02:38:21,220 --> 02:38:27,360
our military, um, which that operation, they said it is inception was world war two, but I believe it

1869
02:38:27,360 --> 02:38:33,460
was actually world war one and then operating with the presidents and with the, the CEOs of major

1870
02:38:33,460 --> 02:38:43,620
corporations, um, you know, taking operations like, uh, the one in, um, in Cuba, the Bay of Pigs. Um,

1871
02:38:43,620 --> 02:38:50,840
and, uh, because we were right off of that coast. So, and also it's a peninsula for, uh, drug trafficking

1872
02:38:50,840 --> 02:38:57,520
organizations because it has, you know, pinnacle drug trafficking routes in which, uh, and they were

1873
02:38:57,520 --> 02:39:03,200
also training, uh, in the Everglades. They were training covert operatives in the Everglades as

1874
02:39:03,200 --> 02:39:08,300
well. And then there was a whole contingency where Disney goes down there, opens up straw corporations.

1875
02:39:08,620 --> 02:39:14,520
And I think those straw corporations were actually run in conjunction with John Walsh from America's

1876
02:39:14,520 --> 02:39:21,800
Most Wanted who worked with John Monaghan. Um, and, uh, they, he was in, he was working for the

1877
02:39:21,800 --> 02:39:27,320
diplomat hotel as a hoteliers, but before that he was working with land corporations in which they

1878
02:39:27,320 --> 02:39:33,700
were opening straw organizations and working with the covert, uh, factions. And also, uh, Monaghan,

1879
02:39:33,840 --> 02:39:40,960
I believe was Irish mob. So it took me like, I don't know, 10, 10 or 15 shows to actually prove

1880
02:39:40,960 --> 02:39:45,860
that. So if John Walsh was working for John Monaghan, John Monaghan was Irish mob. And that means that

1881
02:39:45,860 --> 02:39:47,520
John Walsh was working for the Irish mob.

1882
02:39:47,520 --> 02:39:55,040
Well, let's not forget Zapata oil platform off of the coast of Florida that was run by

1883
02:39:55,040 --> 02:39:58,820
George Bush senior. Yeah.

1884
02:39:58,940 --> 02:40:05,960
Who was running drugs through Zapata oil. And then that ties into the Kennedy assassination as well.

1885
02:40:06,020 --> 02:40:08,700
And of course he was a head of the CIA.

1886
02:40:09,260 --> 02:40:11,240
He was instrumental in that assassination.

1887
02:40:11,800 --> 02:40:16,500
I just found out yesterday through reading a little bit more of Kathy's book that Kathy said that

1888
02:40:16,500 --> 02:40:25,900
she was a sex slave to Ronald Reagan and that it was Michael Aquino, um, brought her to Ronald

1889
02:40:25,900 --> 02:40:32,680
Reagan. And then, um, I've been working with Megan Walsh for over a year now. And that means that,

1890
02:40:32,680 --> 02:40:39,020
you know, I've been asking, did John Walsh know Michael Aquino? I, I can't say, you know,

1891
02:40:39,020 --> 02:40:46,080
specifically, but you know, now I, now thanks to Kathy, I discovered that that ties that she said that

1892
02:40:46,080 --> 02:40:50,900
Michael Aquino was one of her handlers and our trainers and he brought her to Reagan, which we know that

1893
02:40:50,900 --> 02:40:55,660
Reagan, while, you know, he's saying, just say no to drugs, Nancy saying, just say no to drugs. She's a

1894
02:40:55,660 --> 02:41:02,360
drug addict. And then they're running Iran Contra with, uh, you know, destroying the nation

1895
02:41:02,360 --> 02:41:11,240
through Iran Contra. Did Brad just freeze? He just froze, Brad. I've had a couple of brain freezes

1896
02:41:11,240 --> 02:41:24,400
in this conversation. It's been so mind blowing. All is not what it seems. No. Putting this over on us

1897
02:41:24,400 --> 02:41:30,920
for decades. And, and they're not going to stop either. So we have to fight this with just about

1898
02:41:30,920 --> 02:41:36,400
every fiber of our being. Brad, uh, tell us again about your books and how we can get them for those

1899
02:41:36,400 --> 02:41:42,080
people who haven't been fortunate enough as I have to have your books. Oh, thanks so much, David.

1900
02:41:42,080 --> 02:41:50,400
Yeah. To find them, uh, on cccpublishing.com. That's the name of my, uh, website. And this is the

1901
02:41:50,400 --> 02:41:58,700
physical catalog. You can see all, all our books on the website. Excellent. And, uh, beyond esoteric,

1902
02:41:58,700 --> 02:42:05,600
latest, uh, in the three book series. Are there going to be more? Are you doing more esoteric

1903
02:42:05,600 --> 02:42:11,840
books? I mean, do you, do you see enough material? Uh, I mean, it's a volume of just,

1904
02:42:11,900 --> 02:42:17,040
I mean, these books are so filled with so much important information again, not written from any

1905
02:42:17,040 --> 02:42:21,980
perspective of, Hey, it's about me. It's about getting the truth out. Do you see yourself doing

1906
02:42:21,980 --> 02:42:28,680
the fourth one? Uh, been asked to, but I really put everything I got into these three. And as you

1907
02:42:28,680 --> 02:42:35,960
mentioned, they're very thick in information. This beyond esoteric goes almost to a 500 pages or

1908
02:42:35,960 --> 02:42:47,860
yeah. 475 here. Um, so there's so much information here. This is a decade of my life put into these

1909
02:42:47,860 --> 02:42:56,040
three books. Uh, I might do a book on Antarctica next. I'm kicking around the idea. Yeah. My next,

1910
02:42:56,040 --> 02:43:03,100
uh, presentation to debut in 2023 at contact the desert is called birds Antarctica. So

1911
02:43:03,100 --> 02:43:09,680
yeah, yeah. Very interested in that file. You have penny. I will send that to, I'll send

1912
02:43:09,680 --> 02:43:14,600
that to Dave since he has the ability. He sends it to me, then she sends it to me and I will make

1913
02:43:14,600 --> 02:43:20,720
a copy of it so that we can send you the whole thing. And then all we ask is then when you make

1914
02:43:20,720 --> 02:43:30,960
a presentation on stage, use the photograph of him with a jockstrap. I'm kidding, but it also is

1915
02:43:30,960 --> 02:43:36,860
all kidding aside. Uh, these are great books, folks. I can't say enough about them. Brad delivers

1916
02:43:36,860 --> 02:43:44,140
in these books of, uh, just a treasure trove of information. And, uh, I, I can't, there's,

1917
02:43:44,180 --> 02:43:48,680
we've had a lot of, I've had a lot of authors on this program and none of them have come through like

1918
02:43:48,680 --> 02:43:53,640
you have in, in the writing that you did. So I just want to thank you. Uh, highly recommend it.

1919
02:43:53,680 --> 02:43:59,360
Go to cccpublishing.com. Now, if they go to your website, do they get a signed copy if they get it

1920
02:43:59,360 --> 02:44:04,640
from you or how does that work? Yeah, that's right. The only way to get a signed copy of any

1921
02:44:04,640 --> 02:44:11,180
of the esoteric or any of my books is through cccpublishing.com. Of course it's available

1922
02:44:11,180 --> 02:44:17,820
at the, uh, large retailer named after a South American rainforest, but I would suggest

1923
02:44:17,820 --> 02:44:28,180
a mason. You had to say it, you know, of course I recommend people go into their local bookstore.

1924
02:44:28,180 --> 02:44:33,440
Let's shop locally. Let's support the little mom and pops. They're, they're struggling right now.

1925
02:44:33,440 --> 02:44:39,280
And especially after the scamdemic, uh, there was a attempt to put a lot of these small businesses

1926
02:44:39,280 --> 02:44:44,960
out of operation. So that's what I would suggest. But, uh, yeah, if you want to get a signed copy

1927
02:44:44,960 --> 02:44:52,540
through cccpublishing is the way to go or, uh, and also support a small, but growing, incredibly

1928
02:44:52,540 --> 02:44:57,900
growing by leaps and bounds publisher, who's going to allow the truth to get out and not censor it.

1929
02:44:57,900 --> 02:45:02,360
So by purchasing Brad's books, not only are you going to be glad you did because of the content,

1930
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but you're also going to be helping to support the continuation of the distribution of absolute

1931
02:45:07,400 --> 02:45:14,200
truth. Uh, so I highly recommend it. Um, really, I really do. Brad, thank you so much for coming on

1932
02:45:14,200 --> 02:45:19,260
the program and, and, and giving us so much of your time. We really appreciate it. Uh, we'll do,

1933
02:45:19,320 --> 02:45:23,540
we'll do it again sooner than later. And, uh, in the meantime, keep doing what you're doing.

1934
02:45:23,540 --> 02:45:29,600
And, uh, you know, I have a funny feeling that, uh, your publisher, um, is going to bug you to do

1935
02:45:29,600 --> 02:45:33,460
another esoteric book and your publisher happens to be you. So I'm hoping you're going to do another

1936
02:45:33,460 --> 02:45:39,920
book. Might just happen. Well, thanks so much for having me on. I always enjoy our conversation.

1937
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Penny, welcome to the team. It's great to have you on the dark outpost and, uh, certainly we'll do it

1938
02:45:44,740 --> 02:45:49,860
again sometime. All right. Sounds good. Thank you so much. God bless Brad Olson here on the dark

1939
02:45:49,860 --> 02:45:56,500
outpost. Again, his website, cccpublishing.com, his, uh, esoteric book series. Please go out and

1940
02:45:56,500 --> 02:46:01,320
get them one way or the other, because they're really worth it. He has a lot of valuable information

1941
02:46:01,320 --> 02:46:06,120
there. Um, we're going to turn it over to Penny here. He's going to give us some updates on some

1942
02:46:06,120 --> 02:46:11,540
news and information before, as we wait for our next guest who'll be joining us at the top of the

1943
02:46:11,540 --> 02:46:17,780
hour, Carrie Cassidy. So Penny, you want to update us and what's going on? About Carrie. Um, okay.

1944
02:46:17,780 --> 02:46:23,860
So she's going, she's scheduled to be on, uh, my time is, uh, central standard time, 12 PM to 1 PM.

1945
02:46:24,200 --> 02:46:29,280
And we welcome her from project Camelot. Here's a little bit about her. If you don't know who she

1946
02:46:29,280 --> 02:46:40,840
is, one second, wait. Um, here we go. Okay. Carrie Cassidy, let me see if I, here we go. Carrie

1947
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Cassidy is a CEO and founder of project Camelot carries a documentary filmmaker and investigative

1948
02:46:45,860 --> 02:46:52,260
journalist and author and a well-known host of project Camelot TV broadcasting and, uh, weekly

1949
02:46:52,260 --> 02:46:58,480
live shows. She's been in the business for ever. Carrie travels around the world conducting

1950
02:46:58,480 --> 02:47:03,200
interviews and documenting the testimony of whistleblowers with above top secret clearances,

1951
02:47:03,200 --> 02:47:09,320
as well as authors, researchers, and experiencers covering conspiracies, the secret space program,

1952
02:47:09,700 --> 02:47:15,480
black projects, ETs, Kundalini, and Ascension and free energy. She speaks at conferences

1953
02:47:15,480 --> 02:47:20,560
around the world and is considered one of the leaders of the, uh, actually she's considered

1954
02:47:20,560 --> 02:47:25,720
one of the most renowned leaders of the disclosure of moment. Uh, Carrie's book, rebel genes, secret

1955
02:47:25,720 --> 02:47:30,840
space and future of humanity documents her trip down the rabbit holes and her years in project

1956
02:47:30,840 --> 02:47:37,800
Camelot. So yesterday she sent us this update and I'm going to play a little bit of this.

1957
02:47:38,460 --> 02:47:40,980
Yes, that was excellent. Check it out.

1958
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Play a little bit of it and it'll take us, uh, take us to the hour.

1959
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All right.

1960
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And of course it's silent right here.

1961
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Yeah. Right.

1962
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Thank you.

1963
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So this is Carrie Cassidy update, child trafficking epidemic, military sting up, 9-11-2022, state of play.

1964
02:48:33,740 --> 02:48:36,880
Hi, everyone. I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.

1965
02:48:36,880 --> 02:48:48,940
And I want to do an update today about what's going on, the Queen's passing and various other things that have happened in the last week or so.

1966
02:48:49,940 --> 02:49:00,900
And been going on really for like operations for the past, say, year and probably longer with the White Hats, etc.

1967
02:49:01,560 --> 02:49:08,560
So I've got a list here and I'm going to go down the list and hopefully we won't forget anything.

1968
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So I've also got a banner where I made a montage to show you kind of some visuals about what's happening.

1969
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So the first thing I'm going to talk about is Juan at the Reckoning.

1970
02:49:21,900 --> 02:49:30,320
And I just want to say that, as I figured, he didn't want people to take photos of him, but they they did anyway.

1971
02:49:30,560 --> 02:49:37,340
So and one particular website has a picture of him and how he looked on stage and so on and so forth.

1972
02:49:37,340 --> 02:49:44,980
So you can take a look at that. And I've also got a sort of a dulled down version on my banner here.

1973
02:49:45,260 --> 02:49:55,860
Just what I wanted to say there is that it does appear that he has had to kind of develop this white beard to camouflage himself even more.

1974
02:49:56,480 --> 02:50:03,620
And it was notable that he also has this stomach that's even bigger than before.

1975
02:50:03,620 --> 02:50:14,080
So obviously this is a disguise. I don't know if there's people out there that actually think that's how he really looks, but obviously it's not.

1976
02:50:14,800 --> 02:50:20,560
And so just wanted to draw attention to that. He is a lovely man.

1977
02:50:20,740 --> 02:50:28,600
I did have a short one on one conversation with him close up.

1978
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And I can tell you that this was the JFK Jr. version.

1979
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There are two wands and I have put that out there for those of you that are interested.

1980
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I've done other videos on the subject.

1981
02:50:41,700 --> 02:50:44,560
But this was indeed JFK Jr.

1982
02:50:44,740 --> 02:50:52,080
And he was in good form speaking on the stage and also signing books like crazy.

1983
02:50:52,080 --> 02:50:56,040
So that was a really big treat for the attendees.

1984
02:50:56,760 --> 02:51:03,100
And this was the reckoning in Texas that happened, I guess, it's almost a month ago, I think now.

1985
02:51:03,100 --> 02:51:19,720
So the next thing on the list here is Derek Johnson, and he's talking about the military sting operations that the Q White Hats military, those loyal to Trump, are involved in.

1986
02:51:19,720 --> 02:51:31,520
And that involves going into dumbs, obviously, and rescuing children that are part of the child trafficking, pedophile, deep state operation.

1987
02:51:32,140 --> 02:51:36,320
It's notable that this is an epidemic at this time on our planet.

1988
02:51:36,940 --> 02:51:42,880
And very unfortunately, because of the amount of humans that have reptilian DNA.

1989
02:51:42,880 --> 02:51:50,360
And they have started to basically feed on other humans and specifically children.

1990
02:51:51,360 --> 02:51:56,600
And this is actually sounds like a sci-fi movie rather than reality.

1991
02:51:56,940 --> 02:51:59,240
Very unfortunately, it is reality.

1992
02:52:00,180 --> 02:52:03,460
And so you need to do your own homework.

1993
02:52:03,460 --> 02:52:13,720
I want to say that Joaquin Hagopan, and I'm not sure how you say his name, but has done a very excellent article.

1994
02:52:13,720 --> 02:52:18,860
And he's been writing about this, you know, situation for many years, actually.

1995
02:52:19,220 --> 02:52:23,420
And Robert David Steele is one of the people that brought his work to the public.

1996
02:52:24,080 --> 02:52:26,060
So I want to give him some credit there.

1997
02:52:26,060 --> 02:52:41,340
And basically, he's written an article called The British Royal Family, Pedophilia, and the End of a 1200-Year Reign of the Parasitic Monarchy is what he called his article.

1998
02:52:41,900 --> 02:52:47,560
So I have posted that on my Telegram channel for people.

1999
02:52:47,820 --> 02:52:50,200
And hopefully, you will take a look over there.

2000
02:52:50,240 --> 02:52:53,040
I've also posted it on Truth Social.

2001
02:52:53,040 --> 02:53:09,900
So I just want to say that, you know, when people are just so interested in supposed pandemics where a very limited number of people have been affected by what is, in essence, a bioweapon,

2002
02:53:10,380 --> 02:53:18,580
this is far more serious and far more persistent a problem that we have on planet Earth right now

2003
02:53:18,580 --> 02:53:24,740
and definitely has to be dealt with openly and in the courts, et cetera.

2004
02:53:25,040 --> 02:53:28,680
Of course, the mainstream is completely ignoring it, which is typical.

2005
02:53:29,580 --> 02:53:36,940
And you'd have to say that those that do ignore it are most likely the reptilians

2006
02:53:36,940 --> 02:53:41,680
and people with high degrees of reptilian DNA who are in denial.

2007
02:53:41,680 --> 02:53:46,820
And one of those individuals, of course, is the queen and her family.

2008
02:53:46,820 --> 02:53:57,420
And I have a picture on my cover montage, which shows the queen with Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein.

2009
02:53:57,920 --> 02:53:58,900
And you certainly have them.

2010
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Right?

2011
02:54:00,380 --> 02:54:08,260
Perfectly in keeping with the kind of things that have been going on behind the public's back and even in front of them.

2012
02:54:08,260 --> 02:54:11,060
And they don't seem to really get it.

2013
02:54:11,060 --> 02:54:21,900
So this is so important that people realize that spending, I think it's millions of dollars to have her ride down the street

2014
02:54:21,900 --> 02:54:29,060
and be paid homage to by loyal fans is absolutely insane.

2015
02:54:29,860 --> 02:54:35,800
These people are terribly programmed and need to wake up, seriously wake up.

2016
02:54:35,800 --> 02:54:45,680
And there are a lot of British individuals that are in poverty situations who can't barely feed their families right now.

2017
02:54:46,040 --> 02:54:50,640
And so this waste of money is absolutely glaring and incredible.

2018
02:54:51,160 --> 02:54:54,720
All about how the reptilians rule their minions.

2019
02:54:54,720 --> 02:55:07,520
So if you are a reptilian minion and you want to follow this kind of insane behavior, then I guess that's what you're doing at this point.

2020
02:55:07,620 --> 02:55:18,500
You're actually paying homage to a dead reptilian queen who actually died, from what I understand, was probably executed a year or two ago.

2021
02:55:18,760 --> 02:55:20,580
And I don't have details on that.

2022
02:55:20,920 --> 02:55:21,340
Never?

2023
02:55:21,580 --> 02:55:22,460
You said that, David.

2024
02:55:22,940 --> 02:55:23,240
Yep.

2025
02:55:23,240 --> 02:55:25,020
She's spot on.

2026
02:55:25,320 --> 02:55:33,080
I can't wait to have us talk to her because I watched this preview last night, folks.

2027
02:55:33,160 --> 02:55:34,220
I watched this entire thing.

2028
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And I highly recommend you go to her.

2029
02:55:36,940 --> 02:55:41,560
It's called Project Camelot Portal, I believe, dot com.

2030
02:55:42,020 --> 02:55:43,860
And she has updates on there.

2031
02:55:44,440 --> 02:55:47,700
And this goes about 52 minutes.

2032
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But I resonated with everything this woman said.

2033
02:55:52,700 --> 02:55:55,580
And I know that you have been a guest with her.

2034
02:55:56,120 --> 02:55:57,760
Have you been on her program, I believe?

2035
02:55:57,760 --> 02:56:05,380
I was a guest right when I got out of the crazy house and then I had an individual give me some misinformation regarding her.

2036
02:56:05,540 --> 02:56:11,220
So I've had to revisit her and apologize for the misinformation that I was given.

2037
02:56:11,220 --> 02:56:17,900
And, you know, we have to go back and we have to research people and find out what the truth is.

2038
02:56:18,000 --> 02:56:26,320
The individual that gave me this misinformation, then one of the people she worked with was doing spells on me.

2039
02:56:26,320 --> 02:56:31,100
I kid you not, he showed up with an upside down bird that they killed.

2040
02:56:31,500 --> 02:56:34,540
And he said, I said, why did you kill this bird and why are you sending it to me?

2041
02:56:34,920 --> 02:56:38,560
And this was an acquaintance with this individual who gave me the misinformation.

2042
02:56:39,820 --> 02:56:39,840
So.

2043
02:56:39,840 --> 02:56:43,340
And here we are today.

2044
02:56:43,860 --> 02:56:45,320
Like, Carrie, I love you.

2045
02:56:45,400 --> 02:56:47,320
Please, you know, come on the show.

2046
02:56:47,780 --> 02:56:48,180
All right.

2047
02:56:48,220 --> 02:56:49,640
Well, she's going to come on in just a moment.

2048
02:56:49,760 --> 02:56:50,660
Here's what we'll do, folks.

2049
02:56:50,680 --> 02:56:51,900
We'll take a quick break now.

2050
02:56:52,880 --> 02:56:58,880
And when we come back at the top of the hour, hopefully Carrie will join us for a fascinating conversation.

2051
02:56:58,880 --> 02:56:59,800
I think you're good.

2052
02:56:59,880 --> 02:57:04,980
If you haven't heard her before or seen her before, just a fountain of information.

2053
02:57:05,640 --> 02:57:07,140
And we're going to bring a little bit.

2054
02:57:07,140 --> 02:57:13,920
And we're going to we're kind of going to let Penny lead the way in this interview, because I think the two of them together are going to be.

2055
02:57:14,400 --> 02:57:15,880
I'll have some questions as well.

2056
02:57:16,000 --> 02:57:17,420
I think this is going to be fascinating.

2057
02:57:17,540 --> 02:57:19,160
So please stay with us.

2058
02:57:19,160 --> 02:57:23,100
We will continue in just a couple of moments with the great Penny L.A.

2059
02:57:23,140 --> 02:57:26,440
Shepard, Carrie Cassidy and yours truly here on the Dark Outpost.

2060
02:57:37,140 --> 02:58:07,120
We'll be right back.

2061
02:58:07,140 --> 02:58:37,120
We'll be right back.

2062
02:58:37,140 --> 02:59:07,120
We'll be right back.

2063
02:59:07,140 --> 02:59:37,120
We'll be right back.

2064
02:59:37,140 --> 03:00:07,120
We'll be right back.

2065
03:00:07,120 --> 03:00:10,720
And Penny, any word on Carrie?

2066
03:00:11,120 --> 03:00:11,420
Yes.

2067
03:00:11,540 --> 03:00:13,680
So she says she's going to be joining shortly.

2068
03:00:13,900 --> 03:00:16,200
So let's continue playing a little bit of her update.

2069
03:00:16,340 --> 03:00:17,060
That sounds great.

2070
03:00:17,860 --> 03:00:18,820
Let's bring it back in.

2071
03:00:19,220 --> 03:00:20,320
Because there she is.

2072
03:00:20,540 --> 03:00:20,680
Look.

2073
03:00:20,680 --> 03:00:32,360
I'm just throwing that out there, but that's been the word around the street, as they say.

2074
03:00:32,360 --> 03:00:40,100
And various disclosure witnesses have talked about that, and Q, I'm sure Q has referred to that as well.

2075
03:00:40,100 --> 03:01:05,360
Then I wanted to talk about Derek Johnson, which is the young veteran who had a secret clearance, who was in the military and has come forward and is revealing, I believe, mainly, I guess, Marine and Army and various other organizations that are part of the military industrial complex of the United States.

2076
03:01:05,360 --> 03:01:12,960
Those that have now become loyal to the United States, those that have now become loyal to Trump and the White Hats, the MAGA movement, whatever you want to call it.

2077
03:01:12,960 --> 03:01:21,500
And I can say that they have been involved in a sting operation, and Derek Johnson does an excellent job on his videos.

2078
03:01:21,720 --> 03:01:24,940
Where you can find them is beforeitsnews.com.

2079
03:01:24,940 --> 03:01:27,300
He does have a website.

2080
03:01:27,500 --> 03:01:30,160
I think it's called DerekJohnson.com.

2081
03:01:30,580 --> 03:01:37,180
But from what I could tell, it mainly has his music career highlighted there.

2082
03:01:37,400 --> 03:01:43,540
So it's maybe an older website, and perhaps he's putting together one that will feature his videos.

2083
03:01:43,640 --> 03:01:44,680
I certainly hope so.

2084
03:01:45,100 --> 03:01:49,640
I know you can find them on Rumble just by doing a search under Derek Johnson.

2085
03:01:49,640 --> 03:01:53,900
And there may be other platforms where you can find him as well.

2086
03:01:54,400 --> 03:02:09,200
Highly recommend listening to him talk about the role of military law, how the White Hats have purposely done things really out in the open in some cases to wake the public up.

2087
03:02:09,200 --> 03:02:19,580
And this operation, this military sting operation, is something alluded to many times by Juan, although he doesn't quite call it that.

2088
03:02:20,000 --> 03:02:24,020
He talks about things being hidden in plain sight.

2089
03:02:24,580 --> 03:02:32,280
He talks about the military operations that he can't talk about.

2090
03:02:32,760 --> 03:02:34,880
But you get the idea.

2091
03:02:34,880 --> 03:02:39,380
So we've got more than one witness now coming forward.

2092
03:02:39,720 --> 03:02:49,300
There's also an individual called S.G. Anon, I guess he calls himself, that's also publishing White Hat reports at this time.

2093
03:02:49,780 --> 03:02:53,140
And for the most part, they seem quite accurate.

2094
03:02:53,860 --> 03:02:57,000
He's a very calm, well-spoken individual.

2095
03:02:57,000 --> 03:03:05,600
For those that are not really big on Bible stories, he doesn't really tend to go into that as much as Juan does.

2096
03:03:06,660 --> 03:03:12,220
Now, I think what Juan is each, you know, individual is covering a certain portion of the population.

2097
03:03:12,880 --> 03:03:22,320
Obviously, there's a large Christian community that's part of who Juan O'Savin is appealing to, a.k.a. JFK Jr.

2098
03:03:22,320 --> 03:03:32,620
So, you know, there are reasons why he puts things in parables and also because he is he's at risk himself.

2099
03:03:32,620 --> 03:03:38,220
So he used, you know, you see his boots and now he's come out in a couple of conferences.

2100
03:03:38,620 --> 03:03:41,020
One was the Vegas Double Down.

2101
03:03:41,340 --> 03:03:50,600
I have a shot of him there on my website as well as on this banner here, as well as now the reckoning that he's come forward.

2102
03:03:50,600 --> 03:03:54,560
So that you can see him, he's photographed on stage.

2103
03:03:54,780 --> 03:04:03,900
He actually had his picture taken at the reckoning with, you know, and the Double Down, actually, one-on-one with the person that he signs the book for.

2104
03:04:04,040 --> 03:04:05,620
He takes a picture with them.

2105
03:04:06,160 --> 03:04:13,940
And I assume that he tells them, please don't post it on the web because he doesn't want to be revealed quite yet.

2106
03:04:13,940 --> 03:04:22,980
But although I can say that the more bizarre his disguise becomes, the more obvious it is that it is a disguise.

2107
03:04:23,400 --> 03:04:33,520
And if you don't kind of get that pattern where he's trying to gradually reveal who he is, for me, it's kind of like pulling teeth.

2108
03:04:33,580 --> 03:04:35,500
It's very, very slow going.

2109
03:04:36,180 --> 03:04:38,580
But I'm sure there's a purpose behind it.

2110
03:04:38,840 --> 03:04:41,420
Now, there are others that are going to come forward as well.

2111
03:04:41,420 --> 03:04:51,220
Well, I believe, Guyana, and not sure why, he did an interview with this mapping guy.

2112
03:04:51,300 --> 03:04:56,960
His name is Dylan Moore, and Dylan is going to be on my show, I think it's Wednesday of this week.

2113
03:04:57,220 --> 03:05:07,820
So we're going to have a lot of fun talking about everything because he was interviewing Juan at the reckoning and asking him questions.

2114
03:05:07,820 --> 03:05:16,240
And Juan was really going into actually the history of the Antichrist, the royalty, member of the royalty, royal family.

2115
03:05:17,200 --> 03:05:18,280
That is William.

2116
03:05:18,840 --> 03:05:24,820
And he was going into how this sort of this Antichrist person.

2117
03:05:25,720 --> 03:05:29,520
Now, I think it's important for people to realize there's more than one Antichrist.

2118
03:05:29,780 --> 03:05:30,320
That's true.

2119
03:05:30,320 --> 03:05:35,300
An Antichrist is, just as it says, Antichrist, individual.

2120
03:05:36,340 --> 03:05:40,920
And throughout history, there have been a number of individuals that could fill this role.

2121
03:05:40,920 --> 03:05:57,740
The unique thing about William, according to 107, is that he was biologically engineered to include all family, all the family lines, the 13 families, so-called ruling families of the planet.

2122
03:05:57,740 --> 03:06:06,360
And then Diana, or Deanna, as he's calling her, I'm not sure why, but whatever.

2123
03:06:06,600 --> 03:06:20,060
And he's saying that she was the Rosemary's baby woman that was used in this case to give birth to William, which is an incredible tragedy.

2124
03:06:20,060 --> 03:06:33,820
Now, I believe Deanna, or Diana, is very much alive, and she was rescued, I believe, similar to JFK Jr. being rescued, and kept in hiding all these years.

2125
03:06:34,040 --> 03:06:46,840
There is reason to believe she may be wearing a Melania mask and have been seen in public, and that she is now married to Donald Trump, that their child is Baron Trump.

2126
03:06:47,920 --> 03:06:48,520
Very interesting.

2127
03:06:48,520 --> 03:06:54,220
I don't have proof of this, but that's actually intuitively what rings for me.

2128
03:06:54,540 --> 03:07:14,180
And when I do these updates and when I put information out, as an investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, I do my homework on these matters and look for evidence and cross-correlate evidence and whistleblower testimony, which I've got 17 years worth, and continuing to this day.

2129
03:07:14,180 --> 03:07:26,160
So it's not a simple process to come to come to some conclusions, but I can assure you that the amount of time and effort and research I put in is quite substantial.

2130
03:07:26,160 --> 03:07:35,520
And then I bring in my intuitive knowing as well, and sometimes the intuitive is the first thing that comes to me, rather than the last.

2131
03:07:35,520 --> 03:07:41,220
So I don't really need to see a ton of evidence, so I don't really need to see a ton of evidence, I simply get information.

2132
03:07:41,220 --> 03:07:49,320
And a lot of that information then proves true in, you know, as you go through the records and documents and so on and so forth.

2133
03:07:49,320 --> 03:07:57,020
So, so that's how this is all, you know, put together before I come and go public with stuff.

2134
03:07:57,880 --> 03:08:05,620
I do want to talk about Patel Patriot, that his information more or less complements Derek Johnson's information.

2135
03:08:05,620 --> 03:08:34,960
So what we're getting here is complimentary whistleblowers and spokespeople coming forward, beginning to cross-correlate information that we've been given, say, by Q and the Q drops early on, and then various other people coming forward, such as 107, such as this guy SG, Anon, and more.

2136
03:08:34,960 --> 03:08:37,840
So, so just want to draw your attention to that.

2137
03:08:38,520 --> 03:08:41,360
The Patel Patriot information is very excellent.

2138
03:08:41,560 --> 03:08:46,680
I've covered it in several videos, as well as in my own articles.

2139
03:08:47,220 --> 03:08:54,160
And I draw attention to the government exile, which is COG, which is C-O-G for short.

2140
03:08:54,340 --> 03:09:03,160
And that's a very important term that covers what to do if your country is invaded and taken over.

2141
03:09:03,160 --> 03:09:19,160
And then there's the law of war manual that is our version, United States version of the Geneva Convention and what a country, what their rights are legally to do by meaning legally according to the Geneva Convention.

2142
03:09:19,160 --> 03:09:37,200
Now, there's reasons why the United States didn't really have to, in my opinion, stand on ceremony and wait a year, for example, for these interlopers, the Biden crime family and CCP,

2143
03:09:37,200 --> 03:09:55,060
in collusion with MI6, the British crown and Vatican, as well as likely other countries, including Germany and Italy, this Italian satellites being involved in this, in the election steal and so on.

2144
03:09:55,060 --> 03:10:08,860
And you could refer to that as a digital Pearl Harbor, if you find that easier to do, to understand that we have been invaded, but it hasn't been a boots on the ground, at least not yet.

2145
03:10:08,860 --> 03:10:24,200
Now, there is reason to believe that despite people who have told me to the contrary, I have quite a number of years of information saying that Chinese troops have not only been training in places like Pennsylvania and Texas,

2146
03:10:24,200 --> 03:10:48,040
but they have been at the gates in Canada, as well as the border with Mexico, and there's a whole sort of backing to that information coming from individuals that are south of the border, for example, or in our country and have seen things as well as testimony.

2147
03:10:48,040 --> 03:11:14,700
In one case, there was a truck driver who made a delivery in Texas to a certain area of Texas, this was back in March of this year, I believe, and it was reported on Steve Quayle's website, and I guess to Steve Quayle, and then it kind of disappeared, and then it came and resurfaced when somebody sent me that information a week or two ago, and I put it out there again.

2148
03:11:14,700 --> 03:11:26,540
So there is pushback against that idea, and there is also supporting evidence, so kind of go with that where you will, and decide what you prefer to believe.

2149
03:11:27,300 --> 03:11:31,400
Now, the Mar-a-Lago invasion, I do want to talk about that briefly.

2150
03:11:31,400 --> 03:11:45,820
Again, if you understand that Trump is still our president legally, and Derek Johnson, Patel Patriot, and various others do substantiate this information, as well as whistleblowers that I've talked to.

2151
03:11:45,820 --> 03:12:06,380
So that being the case, what is going on, the White Hats are actually allowing the dark side to do their dark deeds in many cases, while the White Hats stand by and do nothing until, or behind the scenes, maybe round them up later.

2152
03:12:06,380 --> 03:12:23,920
So it's kind of this sting operation that I've been referring to, and has been referred to by Derek Johnson, as well as other White Hats referring to having told me in advance that they were setting up a sting, and so on and so forth.

2153
03:12:23,920 --> 03:12:28,360
So this is what's going on on planet Earth.

2154
03:12:28,500 --> 03:12:31,140
This is not just a United States story.

2155
03:12:31,140 --> 03:12:49,500
It's very much a story that involves the rest of the world, and countries, obviously, that have been under the British crown and continue to be, are obviously very interested in what happens with them.

2156
03:12:49,500 --> 03:13:09,320
Okay, I just wanted to take a short little break and let you know, I think Carrie's experience in a little bit of a delay, and also, she had mentioned on one of the shows she did a couple of days ago, they're having fires in her neighborhood, and that they're having a lot of problems with smoke.

2157
03:13:10,000 --> 03:13:15,180
So I'm not sure exactly what's detaining her, but I just wanted to make that statement.

2158
03:13:15,180 --> 03:13:33,600
Yeah, that's fine, and we certainly understand, and if for some reason, you know, she's unable to appear, we'll continue to play this, because we want to get the information out, and we would reschedule her, but hopefully she will join us, because there's a lot of questions we have for her, but we can continue the presentation in the meantime.

2159
03:13:33,600 --> 03:13:45,800
Basically, the United States military and this operation, and how it's being revealed, it is also important to realize that because it's a military operation,

2160
03:13:45,800 --> 03:13:52,500
and they have a lot of secretion, and they have a lot of secretion, and they have a lot of secrecy involved, and that involves Trump, and what he can say, and what he can't say,

2161
03:13:52,860 --> 03:14:04,600
Wano Sabin, some various players, I interviewed Patrick Berge, as many will know, he's an IT specialist, who was working with this group that involved

2162
03:14:04,600 --> 03:14:29,320
a number of individuals, including Giuliani, Sidney Powell, Michael Flynn, and let's see, Patrick Byrne, I think that might be everybody, actually Tori Morris, I think is her name, and there's a few others.

2163
03:14:29,320 --> 03:14:42,760
So this group, somehow, a few of them went into Trump's office at a certain point in January of 2021, well, actually, it was December 18th of 2020, right after the election,

2164
03:14:43,280 --> 03:14:51,220
and they were trying to highlight and possibly convince Trump to do what's called sign the Insurrection Act.

2165
03:14:51,220 --> 03:15:04,100
Trump refused, at that point, to sign the Insurrection Act, but he did supposedly, in that meeting, assign Sidney Powell to be a special investigator.

2166
03:15:05,240 --> 03:15:14,960
After everyone left the office, we are told that he changed his mind, that in a short conversation with, I guess it was Giuliani,

2167
03:15:14,960 --> 03:15:26,740
the testimony goes, that he was told that he, who was not going to assign that role to Sidney Powell, there is confusion on that.

2168
03:15:26,860 --> 03:15:36,300
Patrick Berge is a very important witness, let me say this, because he is highlighting what goes back to the Cambridge analytics

2169
03:15:36,300 --> 03:15:47,120
and the election steal, not only in 2020, but in 2016, what was going on behind the scenes, and going back years.

2170
03:15:47,500 --> 03:15:58,300
And what it's all about is this mind control, this, this Tavistock, Rand Institute, mind control, that is...

2171
03:15:58,300 --> 03:16:00,920
Now we have the real person.

2172
03:16:01,020 --> 03:16:01,500
Hi there!

2173
03:16:01,500 --> 03:16:01,860
Wonderful!

2174
03:16:03,240 --> 03:16:08,680
Oh my God, you stretched the video, it was like, it makes me look like I'm huge, huge.

2175
03:16:09,220 --> 03:16:10,460
No, not at all.

2176
03:16:10,620 --> 03:16:17,200
I mean, hopefully now when people see me, they won't say, oh my God, you know.

2177
03:16:18,240 --> 03:16:22,480
Thank you, you have no idea what an honor this is for me, to meet you.

2178
03:16:22,480 --> 03:16:30,280
I've been following your videos and your channel, projectcamelotportal.com, for quite some time,

2179
03:16:30,440 --> 03:16:33,320
and I want to thank you for joining us, it's really a pleasure.

2180
03:16:34,440 --> 03:16:41,880
Okay, well, I've heard a lot about you, David, and I'm very happy to be here with Penny as well,

2181
03:16:41,940 --> 03:16:47,640
because I interviewed her quite a long time ago, actually, but she knows a lot,

2182
03:16:47,640 --> 03:16:51,100
so she's a great asset to your show, I bet.

2183
03:16:51,940 --> 03:16:57,920
Oh, she is, she's become, she's the full half of the show, she, I brought her on board

2184
03:16:57,920 --> 03:17:03,240
as a full, full partner in this, because she's got such a tremendous amount of knowledge,

2185
03:17:03,240 --> 03:17:06,920
and we're honored that she became not only the executive producer, but the co-host.

2186
03:17:07,120 --> 03:17:12,800
So, you have quite a lot to tell, but I was just going to bring your update from yesterday,

2187
03:17:12,800 --> 03:17:19,020
today, or from the 11th, actually, fascinating amount of information that you brought to the forefront.

2188
03:17:20,380 --> 03:17:28,140
Oh, well, good, I'm glad to hear that it resonates, you never know, you know, I try to gather bits and

2189
03:17:28,140 --> 03:17:34,600
pieces, and that was one where I was a little bit organized, because I had a list of things to go down,

2190
03:17:34,600 --> 03:17:42,280
so, you know, obviously, we have a lot going on, it's incredible, and just want to say hello to Brad,

2191
03:17:42,280 --> 03:17:45,520
I know he was on your show just before I was, so.

2192
03:17:46,380 --> 03:17:51,120
Yes, Brad Olkin is fantastic as well. Well, Penny, I know, has been on your show,

2193
03:17:51,260 --> 03:17:54,880
and I know that the two of you know one another, so, Penny, why don't we kick this off a little bit

2194
03:17:54,880 --> 03:17:57,540
with you, because I know you have a number of different things you want to ask about.

2195
03:17:58,000 --> 03:18:03,740
Yeah, I just wanted to say thank you so much, Carrie, for coming on here, and, you know,

2196
03:18:04,120 --> 03:18:07,760
you were one of the first people that interviewed me when I got out of the crazy house,

2197
03:18:07,760 --> 03:18:13,880
and, and so since that time, and while I was in there becoming an enemy of the state,

2198
03:18:13,880 --> 03:18:20,340
I have researched copious amounts of information to try and get to where I am today,

2199
03:18:20,340 --> 03:18:27,660
and had to fight people that were giving me misinformation, and so I just wanted to say

2200
03:18:27,660 --> 03:18:36,340
thank you so very much for, for your integrity, and for being who you are, and for being on the show,

2201
03:18:36,340 --> 03:18:42,740
and for everything that you've done throughout your life. I watched one of the shows that you did

2202
03:18:42,740 --> 03:18:46,780
with Jesse Hall, and he said, you said you were a singer?

2203
03:18:48,360 --> 03:18:55,900
Oh, yeah, I, I, I, I, a long time, you know, it's been a while, but yeah, well, I, I have some albums

2204
03:18:55,900 --> 03:19:02,000
out. One is kind of a spoken word quasi, and I do sing, I think, one or two songs on there,

2205
03:19:02,000 --> 03:19:10,240
but I, I, yeah, my, okay, my ex-husband was a rock and roller. I was very sort of in the rock and

2206
03:19:10,240 --> 03:19:20,220
roll scene when I was younger, and also acting, so kind of a dual, you know, thing to follow, and

2207
03:19:20,220 --> 03:19:27,200
then I ended up getting into, you know, writing, producing, and directing in Hollywood, and so,

2208
03:19:27,200 --> 03:19:34,340
and that's where I kind of climbed the ropes, such as it was, and, and made it to a glass ceiling,

2209
03:19:34,440 --> 03:19:39,680
basically, and then went off and did my own thing, which ended up to be Project Camelot.

2210
03:19:40,640 --> 03:19:44,420
That's amazing. I mean, there, I found out things about you that I did not know,

2211
03:19:44,840 --> 03:19:50,060
because as you know, I was in Hollywood behind the scenes for about 58 years as a singer,

2212
03:19:50,060 --> 03:19:56,400
and a writer, and an actress trained at New York University, and so I did some, you know,

2213
03:19:56,400 --> 03:20:01,820
more research on, actually, we, Brad and I had spoke a little bit about that regarding method acting,

2214
03:20:01,820 --> 03:20:07,500
and what it actually is. It was actually a form of Russian mind control, but it's also spy training,

2215
03:20:07,500 --> 03:20:13,120
because that's what they use the actors and the actors, actresses for, is they use them in the

2216
03:20:13,120 --> 03:20:19,480
industry for covert actions, some of them unbeknownst to them, because, as you know, I knew nothing

2217
03:20:19,480 --> 03:20:23,960
about myself for 58 years, and then, when I started finding out all the things that I was

2218
03:20:23,960 --> 03:20:31,360
finding out, I became declared enemy of the state, and was made homeless, and was devoid of any

2219
03:20:31,360 --> 03:20:37,280
financial means, and then, this last year, I started working with Megan Walsh, the daughter of

2220
03:20:37,280 --> 03:20:43,360
John Walsh, and I've done about 30 shows in regards to her. He's taken her two, taken her three

2221
03:20:43,360 --> 03:20:50,160
children, and then she had one infant that was at five days old, taken by DCF. She's in litigation

2222
03:20:50,160 --> 03:20:56,000
about that right now, but in regards to her three children, they were separated from her, and they're

2223
03:20:56,000 --> 03:21:03,680
going to be adopted out, so we're talking about the, the scurrilous, you know, interventions of the,

2224
03:21:03,680 --> 03:21:09,680
of the deep state in regards to CPS, kidnapping children, which I know you're well, you're apprised of,

2225
03:21:09,680 --> 03:21:15,520
like, every topic on Flint and Earth, so, you know. Well, let me, let me just say that I, actually,

2226
03:21:15,520 --> 03:21:24,460
I trained in New York City, the Sanford Meisner method, and, and I, I had an excellent teacher,

2227
03:21:24,840 --> 03:21:29,600
Robert X. Modica, just give him a little plug here. I don't even know if he's still alive. This is

2228
03:21:29,600 --> 03:21:39,360
a long time ago, but I, so I, I actually really liked that particular method, Sanford Meisner, as opposed to,

2229
03:21:39,360 --> 03:21:47,440
um, the other particular, the method, which is a slightly different approach, uh, but, um, and I

2230
03:21:47,440 --> 03:21:53,500
studied behind Carnegie Hall. There are little, there are dance studios and, and acting studios behind

2231
03:21:53,500 --> 03:21:59,140
there. A lot of people don't know that, and so it was a very, uh, I guess you might say historical

2232
03:21:59,140 --> 03:22:06,500
thing to do, uh, and, and it was, it's a compliment to my work, actually, at this time, because

2233
03:22:06,500 --> 03:22:13,400
what the Sanford Meisner method teaches you is to be completely honest and truthful, to tell the truth

2234
03:22:13,400 --> 03:22:22,260
in the moment. That's the acting training that you get, and it happened to compliment what I already

2235
03:22:22,260 --> 03:22:30,620
did in life, um, sort of naturally, just ever since I grew up, I, I used to get in trouble in school

2236
03:22:30,620 --> 03:22:38,160
for talking back to the teachers. Um, so, you know, and of course, talk back to my parents as well. So

2237
03:22:38,160 --> 03:22:44,760
that was just how I grew up. And so the Sanford Meisner method, like I said, complimented my,

2238
03:22:44,900 --> 03:22:52,260
my sort of approach to life. And from there, I actually became a director and got into making

2239
03:22:52,260 --> 03:22:59,340
the videos you've seen, which is 17 years worth now. And, and you might see the way I behave on

2240
03:22:59,340 --> 03:23:07,620
camera is, um, most people really appreciated the ones that like my work there. I do have lots of

2241
03:23:07,620 --> 03:23:14,280
enemies out there too, but the ones that do like my work, they appreciate the fact that I am very real

2242
03:23:14,280 --> 03:23:21,720
in, in the way I conduct myself with a witness and, or interviewee. And, um, I consider we're all

2243
03:23:21,720 --> 03:23:28,560
here on a mission to, uh, discover the truth, the real truth about being human. And so that's kind

2244
03:23:28,560 --> 03:23:36,600
of, kind of what, what my background is in that regard. So what, what year did I studied at NYU

2245
03:23:36,600 --> 03:23:50,980
under Stella Adler, um, in 1978, 79, were you in New York then? Uh, 78, 79. No, I think I left, um,

2246
03:23:50,980 --> 03:23:57,360
God, I haven't even thought about this. So let me kind of remember. Actually, yes. Um, I left New

2247
03:23:57,360 --> 03:24:04,180
York. I was there for, I think it was four years and, uh, and got involved in a lot of stuff there.

2248
03:24:04,180 --> 03:24:10,980
And I actually was supposed to go to NYU. Um, I, I was accepted to NYU graduate school of film and

2249
03:24:10,980 --> 03:24:17,720
television, and I was going to study directing there, but then I found out about this other

2250
03:24:17,720 --> 03:24:25,380
sort of, um, very famous teacher called Robert X. Modica that some very famous actors have studied

2251
03:24:25,380 --> 03:24:34,660
under. And for some reason, you know, my, my, my, my sense of everything was that I would do that.

2252
03:24:34,660 --> 03:24:41,940
So I, I actually dropped out of NYU graduate film and television. Although I have to also say that I

2253
03:24:41,940 --> 03:24:49,140
would have had to take student loans to complete that. And I didn't have the money anyway. So,

2254
03:24:49,140 --> 03:24:56,300
you know, it kind of all worked out very well for me. Um, and, and like I said, I, I really liked the

2255
03:24:56,300 --> 03:25:02,440
direction I went, but yeah. So then when I actually, I spent four years in New York and then I went back

2256
03:25:02,440 --> 03:25:11,260
to LA and I, uh, I went to the UCLA, uh, short fiction film program that I was accepted, you know,

2257
03:25:11,260 --> 03:25:17,880
it's, it was, it's a, well, at the time it was a competitive thing. So I entered that and I became

2258
03:25:17,880 --> 03:25:26,660
one of their first hyphenates and an actor, director, producer and, and put together a short film that I

2259
03:25:26,660 --> 03:25:33,820
never at the time didn't finance, didn't complete, even though I completed the course. And then I,

2260
03:25:34,000 --> 03:25:40,940
and it looks like I've gone frozen. I'm, I'm shocking the system here, but these, these revelations,

2261
03:25:40,940 --> 03:25:48,660
we can hear you, we can hear you fine. So. Okay. So anyway, just saying that I went to UCLA, uh,

2262
03:25:49,380 --> 03:25:54,540
at this extension program as a short fiction film. And I'm, I made a short film actually,

2263
03:25:54,540 --> 03:26:01,440
and I shot it on location all over LA and in, um, Palm Springs area, which was actually a lot

2264
03:26:01,440 --> 03:26:09,100
of fun. And I wrote the screenplay. So, um, what was the film on? Um, actually it was a noir thriller

2265
03:26:09,100 --> 03:26:17,020
and, you know, it was, uh, it was taking place in, in like Southern, you know, it was sort of a dark,

2266
03:26:17,020 --> 03:26:24,300
uh, thriller about, uh, a relationship and, and some stolen money. You know,

2267
03:26:24,300 --> 03:26:29,840
it was, it was, it was a bit of fun and it didn't go anywhere, you know, like since then, but

2268
03:26:29,840 --> 03:26:36,540
it was, it was a great sort of exposure. And, and we really shot guerrilla style on location. I

2269
03:26:36,540 --> 03:26:43,760
stole all the locations. I never did the proper procedure. Um, I even shot in a restaurant, um,

2270
03:26:43,760 --> 03:26:50,920
in LA in Hollywood. And I don't know if they knew we were filming or not, but, um, I, you know,

2271
03:26:50,920 --> 03:26:57,160
we stole that location. So, uh, you know, I, I've just been kind of a renegade. I don't like

2272
03:26:57,160 --> 03:27:03,480
rules and regulations. Uh, neither did my mother. So I probably, you know, picked up on that. Um,

2273
03:27:03,480 --> 03:27:15,740
you, so I, I'm the same now. So I actually found out in my family, Carrie. Sorry. I have Cassidy's

2274
03:27:15,740 --> 03:27:20,940
in my family lineage. Oh, well, Cassidy is not my real last name. It's a, it's a name that I gave

2275
03:27:20,940 --> 03:27:29,340
myself in college because my real last name is English. It's actually Unsworth, which is a real

2276
03:27:29,340 --> 03:27:36,180
traditional English last name. Although, um, our relatives on my mother's side are from, uh, Scotland

2277
03:27:36,180 --> 03:27:43,720
and, and Ireland and may even be Welsh. So there's been, my uncle went over there and they all tried

2278
03:27:43,720 --> 03:27:52,880
to claim him and her last name is Ayer, A-Y-E-R. So, um, so that that's, so I'm, I guess I'm a combination,

2279
03:27:52,880 --> 03:28:01,440
uh, of that. So where did the Cassidy name come in? Uh, I, I named myself that. So my first name,

2280
03:28:01,540 --> 03:28:07,760
like I said, my first name is Carrie Lynn. That's my name, but, uh, I didn't like Unsworth. I don't

2281
03:28:07,760 --> 03:28:12,880
know why, you know, it was my father's last name, but now I think my father was adopted. So it's kind

2282
03:28:12,880 --> 03:28:19,560
of interesting that I veered away. Um, so actually my actual bloodline, I don't know, but I would say

2283
03:28:19,560 --> 03:28:26,120
that, um, I've been told, first of all, I went to, I worked, um, I, I entered the peace court a

2284
03:28:26,120 --> 03:28:31,040
certain point and I went to Turkmenistan. I was assigned to Turkmenistan. I was trying to get to

2285
03:28:31,040 --> 03:28:36,920
Africa, but instead they sent me to, uh, you know, Eastern Europe or whatever you want to call that

2286
03:28:36,920 --> 03:28:43,720
and took one of the stands and Turkmenistan. And I only stayed there for a month or two. And I,

2287
03:28:43,760 --> 03:28:49,220
I dropped out of that program because I realized I, I, it wasn't right for me to go in that direction.

2288
03:28:49,220 --> 03:28:54,960
It was being a teacher and they wanted me to use corporal. I think you call it corporal punishment

2289
03:28:54,960 --> 03:28:59,860
in the classroom. And the minute I heard that, I was like, fuck, I'm out of here.

2290
03:29:00,860 --> 03:29:06,840
He's my French here. And I realized that, and I, I had some downloads at that point telling me I

2291
03:29:06,840 --> 03:29:13,320
need to get back to the U S but I had, uh, you live with a family and I lived with a family in

2292
03:29:13,320 --> 03:29:18,080
Turkmenistan where they had, you know, they put their garbage out on the street and they burn it.

2293
03:29:18,080 --> 03:29:24,220
So it was like a real poverty area and paper was, uh, it was really expensive, you know,

2294
03:29:24,220 --> 03:29:29,660
like little, they had a store, they had nothing on the shelves except like one thing, every few feet.

2295
03:29:30,020 --> 03:29:36,220
It was, so no one shopped in the stores. Everyone went to, you know, the big market in sort of the

2296
03:29:36,220 --> 03:29:42,940
center of town to buy anything. And I learned how to, uh, so I had a teenage girl that was my partner,

2297
03:29:42,940 --> 03:29:47,600
you know, she was my charge, whatever you want to call that, but we became really good friends.

2298
03:29:47,820 --> 03:29:52,580
And she showed me how to exchange money, like the secret way that the people do in, you know,

2299
03:29:52,580 --> 03:29:59,580
the culture and, uh, and stuff. So it was actually a really interesting experience, but I was okay.

2300
03:29:59,580 --> 03:30:06,380
So to get back to the subject, so Russians would see me and talk Russian to me. They thought I was

2301
03:30:06,380 --> 03:30:13,540
Russian. I, so I guess I look Russian to them and I would, you know, I felt really bad because they

2302
03:30:13,540 --> 03:30:19,280
thought I was being rude that I wouldn't answer them. I was studying Russian in that program, but I,

2303
03:30:19,440 --> 03:30:26,820
I didn't know enough to say very much. So, um, so anyway, so I, I did that and then I left and,

2304
03:30:26,980 --> 03:30:31,500
and that was very difficult because I had really kind of fallen in love with that family,

2305
03:30:31,500 --> 03:30:37,840
but, um, it was a very interesting experience. And that was during the downturn, the whole tech

2306
03:30:37,840 --> 03:30:43,560
downturn. I don't know if you remember at the beginning of right around, right after nine 11,

2307
03:30:43,560 --> 03:30:51,080
maybe around that time when a lot of us, uh, that were working in, I had a high paying job for a while

2308
03:30:51,080 --> 03:30:58,600
in a sort of quasi advertising and tech. And I was a interact, what you call it, interactive producer,

2309
03:30:58,600 --> 03:31:06,660
managing teams of, uh, designers and engineers. And that was then the whole system crashed.

2310
03:31:06,860 --> 03:31:12,760
I actually quit that job to join the Peace Corps. And you have to go through tons of stuff to join the

2311
03:31:12,760 --> 03:31:19,720
Peace Corps. Uh, and they did shoot me up with a bunch of, uh, vaccines, but I didn't go. I, um, I,

2312
03:31:19,720 --> 03:31:25,480
I realized they were doing that and I hate anything to do with doctors and stuff like that. I always have

2313
03:31:25,480 --> 03:31:31,660
my whole life. So I, I, I kind of played hooky and I didn't do, do all the vaccines.

2314
03:31:32,660 --> 03:31:36,460
So then from there, did you go back to the United States?

2315
03:31:36,820 --> 03:31:44,040
Yeah. So I came back to the United States and, uh, try to remember my trajectory. I guess I went,

2316
03:31:44,140 --> 03:31:49,960
you know, back into the film and I went into the film industry or back into the film industry really,

2317
03:31:49,960 --> 03:31:56,280
and, um, started doing that. But then there was, uh, I think around, forget the actual year,

2318
03:31:56,360 --> 03:32:07,000
but it was like 2004. Um, there was a whole, uh, crash and, uh, I Hollywood, all the jobs were gone

2319
03:32:07,000 --> 03:32:13,780
in Hollywood. So then I went to JPL jet propulsion lab. And I was actually writing screenplays on my

2320
03:32:13,780 --> 03:32:21,440
lunch hour, trying to package independent productions. And at the same time, um, I went

2321
03:32:21,440 --> 03:32:27,440
to the UCLA executive program to learn how, you know, the business side of the entertainment

2322
03:32:27,440 --> 03:32:33,620
industry. Cause I was a total artist up to that point. And I felt I needed some business groundy

2323
03:32:33,620 --> 03:32:44,120
and I won a prize in that, um, program for asking the most questions. I bet. So anyway,

2324
03:32:44,120 --> 03:32:48,900
that was kind of, and I was a journalist in college. Uh, so that's kind of where my journalism

2325
03:32:48,900 --> 03:32:57,200
background came, came into the fore. When you became, uh, more involved in the business end of

2326
03:32:57,200 --> 03:33:02,440
Hollywood, did you learn anything that shocked you coming in from the creative end?

2327
03:33:03,620 --> 03:33:09,720
Uh, not so much because I would, I would, you know, when you're in Hollywood and you're

2328
03:33:09,720 --> 03:33:14,940
working for, cause I worked as a development executive in Hollywood. And I, uh, I was also

2329
03:33:14,940 --> 03:33:21,580
what you call a reader recommending projects. Like I worked for HBO. I worked for the agencies

2330
03:33:21,580 --> 03:33:29,520
intelligence, not intelligence, but maybe intelligence, but you know, like, uh, ICM, CAA, um,

2331
03:33:30,140 --> 03:33:33,480
William Morris being a reader for those agencies as well.

2332
03:33:33,620 --> 03:33:41,900
And I also worked as an executive assistant. Okay. When those jobs were thin and not, not as much

2333
03:33:41,900 --> 03:33:48,520
around. So I kind of jumped around in Hollywood and learned, I even worked for, um, Sony pictures

2334
03:33:48,520 --> 03:33:55,300
as, uh, what was called a studio floater executive assistant. And I worked for people like John Peters,

2335
03:33:55,800 --> 03:34:03,580
Peter Guber, and Mike Medivoy who were running Sony at that time. And these are very top executives.

2336
03:34:03,580 --> 03:34:11,160
You know, the very, very top. So I, and I actually, um, one, one time I told off an executive

2337
03:34:11,160 --> 03:34:16,940
that was above me and I'm not going to say her name. She was, but she was, you know, some

2338
03:34:16,940 --> 03:34:24,140
of those people are really mean to their assistants. Yeah. They, they, they are really brutal. And I

2339
03:34:24,140 --> 03:34:30,120
basically talked back to her and the whole, I was in this row of, we used that in that particular,

2340
03:34:30,120 --> 03:34:35,280
when Sony was kind of still under construction, we were all, all of the assistants were in the hallway.

2341
03:34:35,280 --> 03:34:41,300
And I talked back to this woman in the hallway and everyone burst out clapping.

2342
03:34:43,420 --> 03:34:50,540
They knew she was due. I guess so.

2343
03:34:51,860 --> 03:34:54,940
So how did you start project Camilla? Yeah.

2344
03:34:54,940 --> 03:35:02,640
Well, okay. So my mother passed away and, uh, this is right around this time after I had been working,

2345
03:35:02,640 --> 03:35:09,460
uh, I guess at jet jet jet propulsion lab. Uh, and, and actually I was communication manager over

2346
03:35:09,460 --> 03:35:15,420
there. Wow. And I had to do with, um, I created the artwork for what's called the badges, the ones

2347
03:35:15,420 --> 03:35:21,340
with the rovers on them. And that was actually my idea. I, I'm, I, you know, they, they don't give

2348
03:35:21,340 --> 03:35:26,200
me credit or anything like that. But to this day, I think they're still doing that. But anyway, um,

2349
03:35:26,200 --> 03:35:32,240
it was really wonderful being at jet propulsion lab because it's up in the Hills in Pasadena,

2350
03:35:32,240 --> 03:35:40,800
if you don't know that. And, um, that's where, uh, let's see. Um, trying to think, um, you know,

2351
03:35:40,880 --> 03:35:47,420
sex and rockets, you know, that book, uh, and Alistair Crowley, not him, but the, um, Jack Parsons.

2352
03:35:47,420 --> 03:35:54,620
So the whole studio, um, the whole, uh, lab is actually named after Jack Parsons, who was a rocket

2353
03:35:54,620 --> 03:36:01,280
scientist, who was also an occult science, you know, uh, occultist and, uh, protege, as they say

2354
03:36:01,280 --> 03:36:08,440
of Alistair Crowley. Um, his background is quite mysterious and there's a lot to it. And I actually

2355
03:36:08,440 --> 03:36:14,480
did study the occult when I was very young. Like, I know this sounds kind of crazy, but I was a very,

2356
03:36:14,480 --> 03:36:22,380
maybe it's not so crazy if you listen to me, but I had, um, a great curiosity about the world

2357
03:36:22,380 --> 03:36:29,460
and I didn't like the way it was run when I first came here in this life. So I decided I was going to

2358
03:36:29,460 --> 03:36:37,040
change it. And so I, um, I stumbled on some books, uh, when I was around 12 years old about the occult

2359
03:36:37,040 --> 03:36:42,720
and I started reading about it and it just made perfect sense to me how it was working. And I read

2360
03:36:42,720 --> 03:36:48,660
about dark magicians and how they use black magic and all this kind of thing. Eventually I studied

2361
03:36:48,660 --> 03:36:56,480
the works of Alistair Crowley as well. So I really knew my stuff. I never wanted to be a magician.

2362
03:36:56,480 --> 03:37:06,620
I never practiced, but I understood it intuitively. So when I entered Hollywood later and later got into

2363
03:37:06,620 --> 03:37:12,380
kind of, um, well worked at jet propulsion lab and knew about Jack Parsons being in the background

2364
03:37:12,380 --> 03:37:19,500
there and started to see how that lab was really run kind of behind the scenes being in essence, NASA

2365
03:37:19,500 --> 03:37:26,940
and, uh, and, and the space program and kind of the lies they tell the people. And I've always been a

2366
03:37:26,940 --> 03:37:33,060
psychic intuitive and I always, it's always kind of protected me, like warned me about things.

2367
03:37:33,060 --> 03:37:41,100
So I've learned to rely on it because it's turned out to be true. And you know, like, um, one time I was

2368
03:37:41,100 --> 03:37:49,080
working for a guy in a film company and I just gotten the job and I got a download all about him being

2369
03:37:49,080 --> 03:37:55,400
like, I guess he was, I didn't know the word pedophile back then. Okay. We didn't use that word. I just knew

2370
03:37:55,400 --> 03:38:03,440
that he was a really, uh, um, creepy, dangerous kind of guy. So, um, I just went into work and I was

2371
03:38:03,440 --> 03:38:10,680
making good money. It was a really competitive, hard job to get. And, um, I just quit. Wow. He looked

2372
03:38:10,680 --> 03:38:16,500
at me. He knew that I knew now. I don't know, you know, he just knew that I knew cause I couldn't,

2373
03:38:16,500 --> 03:38:23,660
I'm quite open. Like people say, you know, when I don't like something, it's really obvious to

2374
03:38:23,660 --> 03:38:30,660
people. I don't know why, but you know, something about the way my face is or something, but he knew

2375
03:38:30,660 --> 03:38:38,340
that I was leaving because of, of what he was really about. So that's just one incident that,

2376
03:38:38,340 --> 03:38:45,880
you know, was, uh, sort of showed shows how I have this intuitive ability. So on the lab,

2377
03:38:45,880 --> 03:38:52,160
I realized there were secret projects going on that we weren't being told about that weren't in

2378
03:38:52,160 --> 03:38:58,720
the conventional, you know, there were certain buildings that you kind of had to avoid and you

2379
03:38:58,720 --> 03:39:07,760
never went into them like normal and stuff like that. Wow. So all of this is a background. So I'm

2380
03:39:07,760 --> 03:39:13,480
writing. I was also, I, I, okay. I, I don't know why I'm telling my personal stuff, but you're asking

2381
03:39:13,480 --> 03:39:22,220
me. So when I was young, I saw Steven Spielberg's, uh, close encounters of the third kind. And I stood

2382
03:39:22,220 --> 03:39:28,620
there in the theater in like a state of shock because I, I guess I realized I had been abducted

2383
03:39:28,620 --> 03:39:35,320
when I was a kid and I realized I knew about, you know, other worlds and aliens and all of that. So I

2384
03:39:35,320 --> 03:39:41,200
thought that was going to be the beginning of a complete openness in our society and talking

2385
03:39:41,200 --> 03:39:46,580
about that. The minute I left the theater, that's what I thought. I, it was like a revelation to me.

2386
03:39:46,660 --> 03:39:52,220
A lot of us did. It was a major motion picture. You know, I thought, Oh my God, this is incredible.

2387
03:39:52,220 --> 03:39:58,780
Now people are going to know what I know. And, um, I walked outside the theater and then I kind of got a

2388
03:39:58,780 --> 03:40:05,880
shock realizing that actually no one was thinking like that. And, you know, that the world was just

2389
03:40:05,880 --> 03:40:13,120
going back to the way to normal, so-called normal. And to this day, you know, we're still behind that

2390
03:40:13,120 --> 03:40:14,060
curtain, if you will.

2391
03:40:14,760 --> 03:40:19,860
Why do you think that is? Why do you think we do not get disclosure? Hollywood tells us,

2392
03:40:19,960 --> 03:40:23,860
and I think in a way it's kind of like the government's way of getting it out there as they

2393
03:40:23,860 --> 03:40:28,260
do it through, through fiction, but why do you think we don't get full disclosure? I have my own

2394
03:40:28,260 --> 03:40:37,700
theory, but I'd like to hear yours. Uh, well, it's, it's a, it's a very, um, packed sort of subject.

2395
03:40:38,160 --> 03:40:45,220
So when you get into our relationships with various alien races, they, first of all, you know,

2396
03:40:45,220 --> 03:40:51,640
the Jack Nicholson sailing, you can't handle the truth. That's basically the premise of like the

2397
03:40:51,640 --> 03:40:56,940
military when they look at what they call civilians. And even one, one of my top witnesses,

2398
03:40:57,200 --> 03:41:02,460
Captain Mark Richards, who I've interviewed 12 times, 12, I've done 12 interviews over a period

2399
03:41:02,460 --> 03:41:10,040
of five years going to, to prison, uh, to his prison in California, Solano prison. And, uh, so it's a

2400
03:41:10,040 --> 03:41:17,180
face-to-face interview. And basically he said the exact same thing to me just in passing, you know,

2401
03:41:17,180 --> 03:41:22,760
that he didn't think as a military guy that civilians could handle the truth, but he was

2402
03:41:22,760 --> 03:41:29,160
a disclosure witness. So he had decided that they needed to have the truth. So that's why he

2403
03:41:29,160 --> 03:41:36,640
talked to me, but, um, I'm the only journalist who's ever gone into prison, the prison and talked

2404
03:41:36,640 --> 03:41:42,980
to him, uh, about this. Now there was one other journalist that went in a few years ago. That was

2405
03:41:42,980 --> 03:41:48,680
like some conventional, you know, mainstream journalists from San Francisco who went in and

2406
03:41:48,680 --> 03:41:55,400
talked to him about his, his time in Vietnam, like as a regular soldier and never talked, never brought

2407
03:41:55,400 --> 03:42:01,500
up the idea of black projects, never brought up the fact, you know, that he was a, basically a

2408
03:42:01,500 --> 03:42:08,380
commander of a, uh, you know, a huge space vehicle and all the stuff that I release, which I'm putting

2409
03:42:08,380 --> 03:42:14,720
into a book right now. So I know this kind of long, long-winded answer to this question, but

2410
03:42:14,720 --> 03:42:21,320
basically, you know, I've been doing interviews about this because when I picked up a consumer

2411
03:42:21,320 --> 03:42:28,860
grade camcorder, this is actually before I met my, my partner, my early partner, Bill Ryan. Um,

2412
03:42:29,040 --> 03:42:34,080
I was actually going around Hollywood and I went to some conferences and I started to,

2413
03:42:34,080 --> 03:42:38,840
I was making what I thought was going to be a UFO documentary. And I put the camera in front

2414
03:42:38,840 --> 03:42:44,000
of their faces, the speaker's faces during the breaks, you know, how they would go and sit at

2415
03:42:44,000 --> 03:42:49,700
their tables and sell books. So I went around to them and I just, cause I, you know, I was already

2416
03:42:49,700 --> 03:42:56,300
trained, uh, sort of as a filmmaker, I knew what I was going to do. And I was just doing a documentary,

2417
03:42:56,300 --> 03:43:02,000
um, Allah, you know, MTV back in the early days, which is called guerrilla filmmaking.

2418
03:43:02,000 --> 03:43:07,020
So I would just start peppering them with questions. And I interviewed, you know,

2419
03:43:07,080 --> 03:43:12,900
Rich Dolan, Jim Mars, Stephen Bassett. I mean, a lot of, of the top speakers at the time

2420
03:43:12,900 --> 03:43:18,600
and just off the cuff, cause I just walked up to them and started, you know, questioning them.

2421
03:43:19,320 --> 03:43:25,340
And it was very interesting to me. I was struck by the fact that they would talk about the UFO things.

2422
03:43:25,340 --> 03:43:30,460
And back in those days, they didn't like you to talk about aliens. I don't, people don't,

2423
03:43:30,560 --> 03:43:37,040
don't remember this, but in the early days, when I first got into the field, um, there was a stigma

2424
03:43:37,040 --> 03:43:42,700
if you were abducted or you admitted it, or you talked about aliens. In other words, the drivers

2425
03:43:42,700 --> 03:43:48,740
of the ships didn't, you know, that was a subject that was like almost taboo, but to those people,

2426
03:43:48,740 --> 03:43:54,840
they wanted to only talk about the technology. And I thought that was so strange that here you

2427
03:43:54,840 --> 03:44:00,180
had a guy that was, or a number of people actually going on stage, talking all about this and sounding

2428
03:44:00,180 --> 03:44:05,680
really quite, you know, educated and brilliant about it. But they didn't want to talk about

2429
03:44:05,680 --> 03:44:11,200
that other side and they didn't want to, they never admitted seeing UFOs. So the first thing I

2430
03:44:11,200 --> 03:44:16,600
called my documentary, have you seen a bow? Because that was my first question to those people.

2431
03:44:16,600 --> 03:44:21,460
And they would hem and haw and they would answer a little and this and that they tell me some,

2432
03:44:21,500 --> 03:44:28,260
some anecdotes, but they never went on stage and talked about it. So that was strange to me

2433
03:44:28,260 --> 03:44:37,080
because I'd seen UFOs since I was a kid. So I knew they exist. Um, in fact, my whole family went into

2434
03:44:37,080 --> 03:44:46,580
the mountains and go, we used to go hiking in Lake Tahoe and we were there in the summer. There was a

2435
03:44:46,580 --> 03:44:52,080
just staring up at the sky and suddenly all the stars started moving around and, and interacting

2436
03:44:52,080 --> 03:44:56,280
with each other and stuff. And basically it looked like they were getting together for a meeting or

2437
03:44:56,280 --> 03:45:04,100
something, but my whole family saw that, you know? So it just seemed like, um, again, growing up and

2438
03:45:04,100 --> 03:45:11,860
knowing about this, um, I never understood why it was such a big secret. Gradually, as I got into the

2439
03:45:11,860 --> 03:45:16,800
I'll tell you what I think, Carrie, and see if you agree or disagree. I don't think it's so much

2440
03:45:16,800 --> 03:45:24,180
because they, they feel that we can't handle the concept of extraterrestrial existence. It's because

2441
03:45:24,180 --> 03:45:29,400
it would upset a lot of other people's religious paradigms who believe that we are the only thing

2442
03:45:29,400 --> 03:45:36,780
in the universe. It's us on the earth and God. And all of a sudden, if you bring other beings into

2443
03:45:36,780 --> 03:45:40,820
the mix and say, yeah, there are other planets, there are other solar systems, there are other

2444
03:45:40,820 --> 03:45:44,700
dimensions. All of a sudden, people who have this religious thought that we're the only ones here

2445
03:45:44,700 --> 03:45:49,160
are going to have their paradigms blown up. It's not going to create a mass panic. It's going to

2446
03:45:49,160 --> 03:45:54,100
destroy everyone's, instead of being able to open your brain to the fact that God may have created

2447
03:45:54,100 --> 03:46:00,220
more than one universe, may have created more than one race of, of, of intelligence. It's going

2448
03:46:00,220 --> 03:46:04,820
to upset their paradigm and that's going to blow their mind. And I think the government doesn't want

2449
03:46:04,820 --> 03:46:10,780
to blow people's minds. Okay. Well, I completely, I don't, I don't agree with that. I do know it's one

2450
03:46:10,780 --> 03:46:17,020
of the reasons why they ostensibly say they, they, they don't, they don't want disclosure, but the

2451
03:46:17,020 --> 03:46:23,080
reality, and in fact, it's happening right now, whether people like it or not. So this battle we're in

2452
03:46:23,080 --> 03:46:30,860
that involves, you know, Q, the white hats, Trump, et cetera, one of seven, uh, this battle we're

2453
03:46:30,860 --> 03:46:39,720
fighting right now is a battle against the advent of AI and transhumanism and a takeover of alien by

2454
03:46:39,720 --> 03:46:47,280
aliens of the planet. And it all gets down to the adrenochrome highways, what I call it, the child

2455
03:46:47,280 --> 03:46:54,800
trafficking and the human sacrificing, uh, and, and, and slavery that's going on. And that, that gets

2456
03:46:54,800 --> 03:47:02,140
into the, to the role of reptilians and Draco and how they interact with humans and, and why we are the

2457
03:47:02,140 --> 03:47:08,980
way we are and why some of us have a greater degree of what is in essence, reptilian DNA, which is now

2458
03:47:08,980 --> 03:47:16,180
making them turn on their fellow humans and feed on them. So this is, you know, people do not

2459
03:47:16,180 --> 03:47:22,840
understand how important this, what I'm talking about is. So if you won't even consider, even though

2460
03:47:22,840 --> 03:47:30,260
reptilians are carved into temples and, and, and ancient sites everywhere and people talk about them

2461
03:47:30,260 --> 03:47:38,320
and, and the symbology is everywhere in churches even, and yet they won't talk about it. It's so

2462
03:47:38,320 --> 03:47:44,820
interesting, but this is the overlay, overlay having to do with mind control. And for some reason, I'm

2463
03:47:44,820 --> 03:47:54,240
completely, I have proven myself to be impervious to this kind of stuff, mind control. And I don't know

2464
03:47:54,240 --> 03:48:00,100
exactly why that is. I figure that one of the things I did right when I came to New York,

2465
03:48:00,100 --> 03:48:07,400
was I had decided I wanted to reach enlightenment. So I sort of studied about it, you know, and I

2466
03:48:07,400 --> 03:48:11,860
didn't want to go have a guru. I wasn't, I didn't believe in gurus for some reason. This is just how

2467
03:48:11,860 --> 03:48:19,500
I came in. And so then I went and, and looked at all the books on Kundalini in, you know, Eastern rising

2468
03:48:19,500 --> 03:48:27,860
of the Kundalini energy. And I found one in particular that happened to be a very good book because it

2469
03:48:27,860 --> 03:48:33,280
talked honestly about it from someone who really had done it as opposed to a lot of posers out there

2470
03:48:33,280 --> 03:48:40,580
that actually never reached any kind of Kundalini activation. So it's not that easy to do, but I

2471
03:48:40,580 --> 03:48:47,060
happened to be in my early twenties and it happened to me in just after meditating a month or two, you

2472
03:48:47,060 --> 03:48:55,380
know, I guess I was perfectly ready to do that. So I actually spent two months of intense meditation

2473
03:48:55,380 --> 03:49:00,500
and I was at that time working temp jobs in New York while I was studying acting at night.

2474
03:49:00,820 --> 03:49:06,360
So I didn't, you know, I actually was able to just concentrate. I had some friends lent me their

2475
03:49:06,360 --> 03:49:15,000
loft in Soho. And so that's, I did that all day, every day. And just based on the instructions in this

2476
03:49:15,000 --> 03:49:22,200
book and, and then, you know, sort of doing the technique. And so that changed everything because

2477
03:49:22,200 --> 03:49:30,420
that made me, you know, stronger, able to heal myself, um, more psychic even than I was. Um,

2478
03:49:30,500 --> 03:49:37,400
and so that has kind of been, if you will, my shield that's kept me from being taken over,

2479
03:49:37,400 --> 03:49:45,540
you know, waylaid, et cetera, et cetera, over the years. And, um, so I, I know I kind of backtracked,

2480
03:49:45,540 --> 03:49:51,760
but the bottom line is so disclosure of understanding who we really are. The fact that,

2481
03:49:51,760 --> 03:49:59,060
that, you know, we didn't start with Adam and Eve. I mean, God, this is just so old fashioned and so

2482
03:49:59,060 --> 03:50:07,680
limited. It's one, you know, like nice way of telling people, but the Bible, as everyone knows,

2483
03:50:07,680 --> 03:50:14,860
was rewritten in, you know, in the, um, council of Nicaea and you can look it up. And, uh, and

2484
03:50:14,860 --> 03:50:21,700
basically the Anunnaki wrote themselves into the Bible as God. Okay. So the Anunnaki, um, wanted

2485
03:50:21,700 --> 03:50:28,100
humans to worship them as gods, obviously. And they're the ones who set up the royalty, the kingships,

2486
03:50:28,100 --> 03:50:36,180
uh, on planet earth, because they wanted, those were their minions that they then gave, um,

2487
03:50:36,180 --> 03:50:43,860
you know, the supposed divine powers of Kings was just the Anunnaki, um, either giving them the,

2488
03:50:44,040 --> 03:50:51,220
their DNA portion of it, or simply, uh, allowing them the permission to, to rule over the rest of

2489
03:50:51,220 --> 03:50:58,900
humanity. So they were the minions of, of, of the Anunnaki and the Anunnaki. That's why some people

2490
03:50:58,900 --> 03:51:05,540
say, Oh, you know, the gods, God said this, or God said that. But if you look at the, the translation,

2491
03:51:05,540 --> 03:51:12,040
the word is gods with an S. And again, that goes back to the Anunnaki. Now I'm not saying the whole

2492
03:51:12,040 --> 03:51:18,020
Bible is that some of it, you know, the story about Jesus and this avatar called Jesus and so on.

2493
03:51:18,340 --> 03:51:26,220
Actually, I mean, this is again, going to piss off people, but, um, and some of this is based on the

2494
03:51:26,220 --> 03:51:33,180
work of Ashayana Dean, who I interviewed, uh, on a six hour interview that I recommend it. Uh,

2495
03:51:33,180 --> 03:51:38,800
and she, she was, uh, a channel. She doesn't call her the channel. She calls herself, you know,

2496
03:51:38,860 --> 03:51:47,620
downloading information. And she was, uh, actually comes from a group that was, uh, using these CDT

2497
03:51:47,620 --> 03:51:54,560
plates that were found in Hawaii. That was basically left there by, uh, a group of races

2498
03:51:54,560 --> 03:52:01,500
and they're called the guardians. And so I got to know Ashayana Dean quite well and ended up going

2499
03:52:01,500 --> 03:52:08,700
to eat to India with her group. And so when we were on the bus, she wouldn't tell us where we were

2500
03:52:08,700 --> 03:52:16,700
going. She would wait for downloads. And this is traveling in India. And I started getting the same

2501
03:52:16,700 --> 03:52:23,820
information she was going to say before she said it, you know? And so I realized that I was somehow in

2502
03:52:23,820 --> 03:52:30,120
touch with this race of beings as well. And I had some very interesting experiences in India at the

2503
03:52:30,120 --> 03:52:37,880
time. And anyway, so that was just, uh, me. So I read the Voyager books. Now the Voyager books are

2504
03:52:37,880 --> 03:52:44,780
very difficult to read. A lot of people can't even understand them because she uses, there's a whole new

2505
03:52:44,780 --> 03:52:51,360
terminology. So you, you can't just, it's not so easy to just skim it or read it like with regular

2506
03:52:51,360 --> 03:52:57,520
English. Every, like a term we might use has been changed to another terminology. And some people

2507
03:52:57,520 --> 03:53:04,500
know all about this. There's another woman out there, not for remembering her name, but she also

2508
03:53:04,500 --> 03:53:12,280
tapped into the same body of knowledge. And she, she actually made a glossary of the terms, which is

2509
03:53:12,280 --> 03:53:17,380
quite helpful. So if you read and learn the glossary in the terms, then you can read the book much

2510
03:53:17,380 --> 03:53:26,740
easier. So, but it is a history of humanity with all the races that have invaded us, genetically

2511
03:53:26,740 --> 03:53:34,180
redesigned us, or tried to redesign us since the beginning of, of humans, which is where we're a

2512
03:53:34,180 --> 03:53:42,100
hybrid race coming here. And we come here, we're a humanoid hybrid race that is from Lyra originally in

2513
03:53:42,100 --> 03:53:51,680
this solar system, whatever you call it galaxy. So, and Pleiadians are also high, you know, a humanoid race

2514
03:53:51,680 --> 03:54:01,460
from the same place from Lyra and so on. So I guess I might be getting a little bit off the topic, but the

2515
03:54:01,460 --> 03:54:12,080
bottom line is that the Bible, if you, if that's all you follow and you get this tilted, distorted view of who we are,

2516
03:54:12,080 --> 03:54:20,700
of other races on other planets, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's just so limiting. I don't understand

2517
03:54:20,700 --> 03:54:26,440
why people would even want that. Now, let me say that I grew up in a family where we didn't even have

2518
03:54:26,440 --> 03:54:32,420
a Bible in the house. When I was around 12, I had to go out and buy one and read it. I read it, you know,

2519
03:54:32,600 --> 03:54:39,740
and I was just, I liked the part where Christ speaks, but I also thought it was ludicrous because

2520
03:54:39,740 --> 03:54:45,560
there's, there's nobody had a recording machine back then supposedly to record him speaking,

2521
03:54:45,760 --> 03:54:52,160
you know, and he's a composite of, as I was saying in the beginning, three different Christ's that

2522
03:54:52,160 --> 03:54:59,200
were around, you know, that during those years. And there was supposedly, at least according to the

2523
03:54:59,200 --> 03:55:07,100
Ashana Dean information, there's a six dimensional Christ, I think another Christ, and then there's a,

2524
03:55:07,100 --> 03:55:15,100
a ninth dimensional Christ. So, and it's still an individual. So a lot of people don't understand,

2525
03:55:15,560 --> 03:55:21,240
you know, we are, okay, I, you know, and this is the way I interpret it, that we are all sons and

2526
03:55:21,240 --> 03:55:28,860
daughters of God. Okay. Not Christ isn't the only son he has. Okay. We're all, you know, pieces of God

2527
03:55:28,860 --> 03:55:37,180
in essence. And so when you realize that, yes, he was an avatar, he had a trajectory, he was a teacher,

2528
03:55:37,680 --> 03:55:46,040
you know, all this is great. There's other avatars on, on earth, such as Buddha. Whether Muhammad is,

2529
03:55:46,140 --> 03:55:54,040
is really an avatar. There's some maybe discussion about that having to do with actually that the Pope

2530
03:55:54,040 --> 03:56:01,100
put, put Muhammad in place. I know this is just going to drive a lot of Muslims crazy, but

2531
03:56:01,100 --> 03:56:08,400
just have to say the information that's, you know, I have. So don't shoot me. If you don't like my

2532
03:56:08,400 --> 03:56:16,880
information, you know, decide what you like. So, and let me just say this about, you know, I,

2533
03:56:16,880 --> 03:56:25,480
I love the middle East and I love Africa and I adore the Arab people and I've, I lead tours in

2534
03:56:25,480 --> 03:56:33,340
Egypt and I have an incredible rapport with them. And I also have had sort of other lives there as I

2535
03:56:33,340 --> 03:56:39,600
know, cause I, I've tapped my past lives and so on. So, so don't get this the wrong way, but

2536
03:56:39,600 --> 03:56:45,900
have you ever looked at a temple, like, uh, you know, a temple in the middle East, it looks like a

2537
03:56:45,900 --> 03:56:53,740
UFO. Hello. I mean, they have it in plain sight and nobody even talks about it. You know,

2538
03:56:53,940 --> 03:57:02,840
and earlier the church, the, uh, the, in the Vatican, it looks like a snake reptilian about that.

2539
03:57:02,840 --> 03:57:08,880
And the reptilians run the Vatican. I mean, they run the Pope and everything there. I mean,

2540
03:57:09,000 --> 03:57:16,080
the guy, those guys have to be reptilian or a portion, reptilian hybrids really. And, you know,

2541
03:57:16,700 --> 03:57:22,760
there's a lot of information about them having a huge hive. I mean, I know it's kind of sickening to

2542
03:57:22,760 --> 03:57:28,860
hear, but under the Vatican, and I'll tell you, I have been to Vatican square more than once. And I was

2543
03:57:28,860 --> 03:57:35,560
there not that long ago. And I literally got, got close to the square and started feeling completely

2544
03:57:35,560 --> 03:57:40,700
sick. I mean, really, really sick. I thought other people say that the closer they got to the Vatican,

2545
03:57:40,700 --> 03:57:47,220
they became physically ill. So you're not the first person to say that, to say that I've heard it. So

2546
03:57:47,220 --> 03:57:52,420
you're spot on about that. And I had to leave. I actually had to leave. Uh, I, we wanted to go see

2547
03:57:52,420 --> 03:57:58,580
more cause I, you know, I was just coming back after quite a long time and, um, just couldn't handle it.

2548
03:57:58,580 --> 03:58:06,940
It was too sick. Wow. Carrie, we're going to have you back on September 27th. And, um, we think,

2549
03:58:07,040 --> 03:58:12,520
you know, you're, you're a fascinating person, Carrie Cassidy, you're a fascinating person.

2550
03:58:12,780 --> 03:58:20,480
And you're an industrious worker that aims to tell the truth. And, um, I've come to actually admire

2551
03:58:20,480 --> 03:58:25,200
and love you for the things that you do. I admire you too. Very much. I mean, this is,

2552
03:58:25,200 --> 03:58:31,080
we just scratched the surface here today, but, uh, you've got a lot of very valuable information.

2553
03:58:31,360 --> 03:58:34,740
Where can people get in touch with you? Where can they find your work?

2554
03:58:35,720 --> 03:58:41,120
Okay. Well, thanks. Uh, project cam lot portal.com is my website. It also has,

2555
03:58:41,280 --> 03:58:47,520
goes under two other URLs cause we got banned in parts of Germany and decided to make other URLs to

2556
03:58:47,520 --> 03:58:54,680
get around that, uh, project cam lot.tv and project cam lot.org are awesome. All go the same

2557
03:58:54,680 --> 03:59:00,880
place. And all of my videos now, because I'm banned on YouTube have now been put onto my website.

2558
03:59:01,340 --> 03:59:08,220
So everything's there as well. And this is over, this is thousands of, of videos that have

2559
03:59:08,220 --> 03:59:15,220
gone through 17 years of work. And then they're also, they got, um, sucked into odyssey.com

2560
03:59:15,220 --> 03:59:22,000
through some, you know, serendipity miracle that I, I signed up for odyssey looking for,

2561
03:59:22,000 --> 03:59:26,780
you know, substitutes for YouTube before I got banned from YouTube, because I had a

2562
03:59:26,780 --> 03:59:33,620
psychic sense again, that, you know, my relationship that was getting worse and worse and more rocky over

2563
03:59:33,620 --> 03:59:42,420
there. And sure enough, um, I was banned, uh, for one line in one video, I got my third strike and that

2564
03:59:42,420 --> 03:59:48,880
was Robert David Steele basically saying that COVID was a hoax. Right. And, uh, and that's it.

2565
03:59:49,020 --> 03:59:54,840
But what happened was I had had a psychic feeling that something was, you know, going to be wrong

2566
03:59:54,840 --> 03:59:59,920
with that video, even though the topic was nothing to do with COVID. The whole topic was all about his

2567
03:59:59,920 --> 04:00:07,640
tour coming across the United States at the time. And, uh, so, um, I went and I put it into what's

2568
04:00:07,640 --> 04:00:13,660
called an unlisted part on my, the, when you have a YouTube channel, you can put your either public

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or unlisted. If it's unlisted, the public can't find even in searches. So technically it wasn't

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public. Right. But they gave me a strike anyway. So at about 12 midnight, I moved it into the listed

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and I guess at around three in the morning, they gave me a strike. And so they, they were sitting and

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watch for me, you know, to, to take, to take me down. And that was overnight. And I'd been on YouTube

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for about 16 years as a, as a director on YouTube. Um, because I was one of the first directors they

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brought on board, which allowed me when everyone else was making 10 minute videos to do two hour shows

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just from out the gate. And so, um, so that's, I, so basically that was the end of my relationship

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with YouTube. Even now I have some remnant channels, uh, running around there, but I can't get into

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them. They won't let me in my own channels. Consider it a badge of honor. Yeah. Really? Honestly.

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So yeah. So Odyssey, I, I, I, I registered for Odyssey and they brought in about 850 of the videos. And

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since then I've added to it. So rumble has all my most recent stuff. So does odyssey.com. And so does

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my website. So I have three places you can watch my videos. All right. So we, please remember that

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project Camelot portal.com is the first place to go. It's an excellent website. Carrie, we'll have

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you back on again. Uh, and when did you say, what's the date? The 27th, but hopefully you'll be a

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recurring guest. And I just want to, I mean, honest to God, it was excellent stuff. Thank you so much for

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all you, you do. And thanks for coming on the program. Oh, thank you. And let me return the

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favor. Both of you are invited to be guests on my show. Cause I know you're both really fascinating

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individuals. Um, you know, I've already had a, a bit of Penny, but it, you know, it's been many years

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and David, I'd love to have you as, as a guest. I would be honored. I'd be honored. We will do that.

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Thank you. We'll talk to you soon. Uh, remember project Camelot portal.com. That's going to do it

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for this edition of the dark outpost and we are out of time. So we're out of here. And I would just

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say Zublik out. Shepherd out.

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Zublik out.

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Zublik out.

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Zublik out.

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