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Good evening ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday, September 9th, 2022. I am Andy Steal,

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the Operations Manager here at 8E 911 Truth and as you can see behind me, the event is

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or bidden truth. This is our 21st anniversary event. I'm very excited to be joining you

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tonight as well as joining all of these great people that are going to be coming to you in the next

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four hours, who are those people going to be? Well, we're going to be joined by 8E 911 Truth

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CEO, Roland Angle. He's going to be sharing a few words and thoughts with you. We're going to be

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seeing Matt Campbell 911 family member who lost his brother Jeff Campbell on September 11th. He'll be talking.

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I believe about the inquest, so you'll have to see that Ted Walter, a director of strategy in

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development, we'll be speaking on revelations from the NIST request for correction. We're going to be

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joined by Brian Thompson, who I've never actually had on my podcast before, so this is going to be

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interesting for me personally and he's going to be presenting his South Tower video analysis.

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John Cole will be here. He'll be talking about a paper that he's submitting and also we're going to be

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joined by AE board member Scott Granger and Roland discussing an AE building seven pre-collap study.

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All very interesting stuff for the people that dive into the nitty gritty. But after all that,

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after we get done with the science section, we're going to be playing clips from AE 911 Truth's

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newest film. It's called 30 seconds of silence. You have to check it out. I actually just watched

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some of the clips for the first time about an hour ago. This is going to be a fascinating movie,

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but you're going to see that for yourself. We have plenty of time to get into that. And then

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after we play those clips for you, we're going to be doing a Q&A session with Dylan Avery himself

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as well as John Cole, who has featured prominently in the film. And then Roda could be done there.

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Because we're going AE 911 Truth is going to be announcing an exciting new project here at the end

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of the night. You're going to want to hear about it. I think people are going to be excited about it.

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I know I am. It's a brand new thing we've never done before. You're going to find out about it,

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but we're going to make you wait. We're going to be like that. You have to stick around to the end of

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the show to find it out. Now we wanted to start off tonight. Of course, remembering why we all do this

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work. I mean, something drives us to get involved in a topic like this. The controlled

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demolitions of the towers is not an easy issue to be an activist for. So for a lot of us, what we

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remember at this time are the family members. And we've gotten a lot of help from the 911

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family members over the years. People that we do this for, they also help us and our mission.

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It's a symbiotic relationship. So we're going to take just a minute right now to

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remember them and highlight those family members who have helped us with our cause. So let's do that.

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all right. So as we proceed further tonight, we sound out of bulletin,

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a number of months ago asking our supporters, why does 911 still matter to you?

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Now for me, the reason was just flashed across the screen. All those people who lost

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loved ones on that day, all those people who died through. The only crime that they

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committed was going to work that day. That was at. And we're still being lied to about how

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they died. The circumstances under which they died, they deserve that justice. But for every

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single person, that reason is different. That's what we wanted to hear from them. And the response

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was overwhelming. We got like 900 responses. I couldn't even keep up with all of them.

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We did our best together. I grabbed a few of them, but there's an entire spreadsheet somewhere here

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on my hard drive that has everybody's response is we're going to be referencing those throughout

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the years on my show 911 free fall here at 811 truth. Some great insights, some great thoughts

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from our supporters out there. We want to thank you all for doing that. What we did though,

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in order to honor this whole concept of why 911 still matters to you is we wanted to make a video

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to capture it. I mean, invited some of our supporters who wrote in and to participate in making

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this video. So before we get all of our guests on and everything, we're going to play that for you.

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This is about three minutes long. But listen to some of the things they say,

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and also some of the imagery. And I think it captures exactly what this time of the year is all about

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for people in this audience.

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911 was probably the most painstakingly and effectively produced perception management project

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in the long dark history of governmental malfeasance and corruption.

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Unless the malifact is exposed, they'll always win.

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In these times of deliberate distortion of the truth, when our society has seemingly lost its moral

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compasses and ethics are being eroded, we need to keep our minds clear and our innate ability

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to discern reality from thinking fully functioning.

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There are conspiracy theories, lies and disinformation, however, when the official explanation of

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the catastrophic events defies the laws of physics and also denies the properties of the world's strongest

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materials. You know that you're being lied to by the official story.

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911 was the first situation where it was so obvious to me that in engineering organisation,

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that is missed, was lying to the American public in civil war.

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To me, 911 represents a mass betrayal of those things we hold dear and true about this great nation.

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911 was the first time we've ever seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and knowledge.

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911 was the first time we've seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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911 was the first time we've seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true.

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911 was the first time we've seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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and true about the fact that we've never seen a mass betrayal of the world's strongest

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but it was exactly the executive branch of government that failed to protect us on that day

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and so we saw that there was an inherent conflict of interest in having an arm of the executive branch

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conduct the investigation into what had happened. That's a sort of a basic principle of law

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that we've been doing in the past and we've been doing it in the past and we've been doing it in the past

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and we're concerned that that report would not be accurate and in fact we found numerous flaws with the report on the point of ours

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so in 2006, an architect by the name of Richard Gage found in architects and engineers for 9.11 truth

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and that organization began looking into the inferences and the evidence of the report as it was published by NIST.

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In 2008, NIST published another report on the collapse of building 7, the third tower that had come that day,

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and the report was also found to be deficient by those of us that looked into it.

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So we began to gather evidence, talking other researchers, and we eventually paid for another report on the collapse of building 7

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to be conducted by the University of Alaska for advice under the guidance of Professor Viro at Housi.

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And the Housi report came out in 2018 and they found that they could not replicate the conclusions of the NIST report on the collapse of building 7.

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So this is a problem. They found many anomalies in the report, omissions, defiance of the laws of physics and so on.

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And so we began to question NIST and ask them to discuss with us the differences between the findings of the UAF report and the NIST report.

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NIST refused to do so. And so that was one problem, but a bigger problem was the fact that our professional organizations that speak for us on the national stage, that is the American Society of Civil Engineers, the American Institute of Architects, the National Society of Professional Engineers, the National Council for Structural Engineering Associations,

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all these organizations, the leadership came down in support of NIST and said that the studies that NIST had conducted were accurate and complete and there didn't need to be any further discussion of them.

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So those of us who disagreed with that decision had to begin to another tactic. And so we formed here at AE911 Truth, we formed Project New diligence, and we trained the team of engineers from around the country and in some in Europe, and with the information that we had collected.

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And we took that information out and began to present it to the local branches and chapters of the professional organizations.

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And what we found was that the engineers that heard what we had to say unanimously agreed that we had sufficient information of quality to ask for a new investigation.

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And because the investigation conducted by NIST did not meet our professional standards. So that was that has been our reaction from the rank and file of our profession.

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And it is in direct contradiction to the position of our leadership. So we have a problem within our professional organization in that the government is saying that our profession supports them.

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But there are elements within our leadership that do. So we are attempting to put pressure on those leaders to come around to the opinion that a new investigation is necessary.

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So you can see our analysis actually put together and a more recent video that we put together called critical decisions that derail the World Trade Center investigation of building 7.

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And that's at AE911 Truth dot or forward slash CPD. If you want to look into that further.

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So using that information we are now going to begin our outreach to persons that were involved in the official investigations.

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We believe most of them were honest doing their job properly, but somehow in the process of producing those reports their investigation was.

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So in addition to that we are working in the public arena and that's you're seeing the videos and.

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Other information reports that we've produced that we published on our website. We've taken out billboards. We've had campaigns. We have our personnel making appearances and the alternative media.

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So we do have a public outreach. We know that public opinion is essential for us to gain the kind of momentum we need to force a new investigation.

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We're also working in the legal arena. We're challenging the list. Refusal to dialogue with us. We've taken them to court.

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The courts at the lower level have ruled in their favor coming up with the amazing conclusion that even though we represent 3,500 building professionals. We don't have standing to question their decisions.

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And they even went further and said that there's no obligation for the government to issue truthful reports. So we're challenging that at the appellate level and the district of Columbia.

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We've also submitted information to the attorney general and the Southern District of New York. And we've asked that person to present the evidence that we have of controlled demolitions through the grand jury as a crime was committed in their district on September 11.

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The attorney general has refused to present that information to a grand jury. So this is set up a unique challenge that we have brought to the courts to ask in fact isn't it a fact or a point of law that the attorney general is required to present evidence of a crime to a grand jury when he has knowledge of it.

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And so that is also before the courts. In addition to that we have the camel case and I'll be introducing Matt Campbell to you in just a minute. He's got information related to the court related to his brothers death on September 11.

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I'd like to close with a fundraising appeal. We need support. These are very difficult times. All the nonprofits, uniformly are reporting difficulty raising money.

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There's so much uncertainty in the world with payments, wars, inflation and other events that are great concern to every one of us.

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And it's easy to forget that there are ongoing projects that need our support. So I'm asking each one of you today to open your hearts and open your account and your wallets and please contribute to a thing.

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We are making progress. I know it's slow and it's painful but that's the nature of the investigation that we're conducting.

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We can't proceed. That's where I'm firm growl and we can't do that without research. It takes time, takes money.

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And I want to say that without our great staff and the volunteers that work with us, we wouldn't be able to accomplish what we've accomplished so far.

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And so they deserve our great appreciation and our support.

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And I also want to thank the ongoing support of you, the donors that are fully possible until now. We get no money from the government.

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We have no money from any corporate source that could possibly compromise our mission. So we depend upon you.

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Sustainings support in this and all of my thoughts on a monthly basis would be the best possible solution for us.

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As many of you as possible, if each of you gave a little.

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There's tens of thousands that we could operate without having to fear for our future existence. So please consider giving us a donation and any other way you can support us.

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So now I'm going to cease my comments and introduce Matt Campbell to you. Matt it's my pleasure to introduce Matt. He was the is the brother of Jeff Campbell who lost his life in the north tower on September 11.

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He's worked with us for a number of years. He appeared in our film The Unspeakable, a large portion of which was documented his and his families efforts to achieve a new request into Jeff's death.

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So thank you for coming on tonight, Matt, and I'm going to turn the floor to you.

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Thanks, Ryan.

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Yeah, here we are another anniversary.

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21 years ago, my brother Jeff was murdered on live TV.

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He didn't usually work at the World Trade Center. He worked for Reuters, which was up in Midtown.

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But that day he was attending the risk-water conference on the 100th floor of the north tower.

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Since then, over the years and I mean decades now, small fragments of his body just sort of 3%.

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As has been identified and returned to us, we're talking a few small bones and parts of his face in his head.

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I know that the identification efforts still continue at the office of the chief medical examiner in New York.

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But you know, for those of you that know, there's still 1,106 people.

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Some 40% of those that died at the World Trade Center still aren't identified and their remains haven't been returned to their loved ones.

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You know, approximately a third of those 22,000 fragments that were recovered remain an identified and 5,000 of those are smaller than an inch.

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These are statistics that still make me shake my head in disbelief.

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I first like questioning the official narrative way back in October 2001, and it's been what seems a very long journey.

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And this time last year, thanks to supporters who generously donated the legal fees that we needed.

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We submitted an application to the UK Attorney General to try and re-open my brother's inquest.

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And for those of you who don't know, an inquest in the UK is an investigation designed to find out, you know, a basic stuff like who the deceased was, where they were and when they died.

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But more importantly, how meaning, you know, by what means did they die.

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Now, the UK coroner concluded that Jeff's death was caused by the impact of American Airlines Flight 11 causing the North Tower to collapse, you know, resulting in Jeff's death.

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That's something that, you know, I want to challenge and under section 13 of the 1988 coroner's act.

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There is a mechanism which allows, um, found members like ourselves to petition the Attorney General to apply to the High Court for a fresh inquest.

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Now, our grounds for a new inquest are essentially, I guess, two areas that we're challenging on or questions that need to be dealt with by the Attorney General.

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This is an insufficiency of inquiry and a new evidence which was not heard at the original inquest which was held in 2013.

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Now, the transcript of the 2013 inquest, plainly shows that no evidence was heard to the cause of the North Tower's destruction.

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And as the, the coroner's conclusion or findings that the, the plain caused the North Tower's destruction and ultimately Jeff's death is unsupported.

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We also found out, um, in February this year through the release of, it was previously marked, um, exempt from disclosure.

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It was a report, paired by the London Metropolitan Police and like the counterterrorism branch of them.

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That that report only contained two pages in the form of a very basic native narrative summary.

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Um, covering the high jackings and the towers destruction.

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And, um, you know, our barrister, a mixed-anage, you know, pointed out in a communication to the Attorney General's office shortly afterwards.

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But, you know, the police report contained no evidence or even an assertion as to what caused the destruction of the North Tower and, and thus Jeff's death.

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And to be clear, the coroner at the 2013 inquest did not hear or state any evidence as the cause of death.

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And this is all required under, um, UK law.

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And on the second sort of, um, area that we're challenging on which is, um, new evidence.

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Um, we submitted a two and a half thousand page application, which contained a lot of evidence, which was not heard at the original inquest.

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And obviously a substantial chunk of that application is evidence of explosives and, um, in sendaries being used to bring, um, or three towers down.

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Um, that the third thing that, um, the coroner, sorry, not coroner, the, um, the Attorney General needs to consider when looking at replication.

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Um, is they need to satisfy these question, which is, um, is it necessary or desirable in the interests of justice that a fresh inquest should be held.

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And, um, you know, the UK case law is quite clear on this that, um, a family's wish for a fresh inquest is given considerable weight.

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Because, um, you know, basically a new inquest, uh, maybe desirable simply because a family member in this case is all of us, um, request it.

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Um, so there are the three things that we're, you know, petitioning the Attorney General on.

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Um, I'm sure a lot of you may be of notice that there's been quite a lot of stuff going on in the UK this week, uh, not least the passing of the Queen.

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Yes, today. But also, we've had a change of Prime Minister and that in turn has, um, course the change of the cabinet. And so the previous Attorney General, um, so a brave man.

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Um, is now the home secretary, um, and she in turn has been replaced by, uh, Michael Ellis, um, who, I guess will stay in that position until, you know, whilst the Conserves are still in, uh, government.

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Michael Ellis is actually a member of Parliament for the region where Jeff and I grew up as kids. Um, I mean, none of these development should affect the legal process in assessing our case, but um, I said there are a lot been going on this this week.

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Um, having said it shouldn't change anything. Um, you know, after not hearing from the Attorney General's office, um, probably since May, June this year.

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I found it kind of odd, but also encouraging that we actually received a communication from them this very afternoon.

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Um, I mean, it was a very, uh, routine admin matter, um, at least I know that it's still being actively looked out. Um, the application that is.

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Um, you know, the wheels of justice made turn very slowly, but at least we know they haven't sort of rusted up completely.

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Um, I mean, I am personally confident that the Attorney General will grant his authority to, um, reopen Jeff's inquest.

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Um, I mean, actually, I'll probably be astonished if he, if that's not the case.

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Um, because I believe that our case is very strong. Um, and once that authority is granted, the next stop is the high court where, you know, we will need to

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report from our barrister again and to represent us in ensuring that, um, you know, the high court orders that the original in quest is quashed and a new one is ordered.

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Um, and that new interest in quest would actually be held at the original, uh, colonist court, which is the West London colonist court.

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Um, and where I believe that, you know, finally evidence of control demolition and what ultimately killed my brother, um, will be heard.

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I remain very hopeful. And I hope, you know, um, we, we here in the not too distant future. Thank you.

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Thank you so much, Matt, and I know a lot of people's hopes and prayers are writing with you and so many people have questions about this event and people who lost loved ones, but so few of them stand up and stick to the neck out and do all that great work.

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So we very much appreciate you here at AE and I know all the people out in the audience appreciate you as well. So good luck and good night. I know it's late. Hit there.

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Cheers, Andy. Thank you.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, so we are going to get technical now. We're going to start talking about some of that science, uh, which is what we do all the time here at AE 911 truth, but we've got some, uh, new research out there and stuff that, uh, we haven't really highlighted a lot of before.

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And we're going to be beginning with Brian Thompson. Now, Brian has an undergraduate degree in civil engineering from Markette University and a master's degree in fire protection engineering from Worcester Polytechnic Institute.

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He holds a professional licenses in both fire protection engineering and civil engineering in multiple states and he practices in fire protection engineering design and consulting.

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And I think that's what I'm going to do here is there he is spring him on in Brian. Thank you for joining us tonight. Yes, my pleasure. Good to be here.

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So you have the floor.

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Very good. Thank you. So a year ago for the 20th anniversary. I was putting together a presentation and I had told the audience it was going to involve and look at all three towers.

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Not much information on tower two. So in order to fulfill my promise, I set out to try and do a preliminary analysis of tower two.

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And what I learned last year has sort of progressed into a little deeper dive and there is still more work to do, but I'm happy to share what I found regarding the tilting top of tower two.

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So to set the context, we'll just start with a video clip. I've sped it up to five times the speed just for the sake of time. So what we'll see when we watch is we've got tower one and tower two.

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There will be a glimpse of daylight as the smoke clears early in the video just to give us perspective on on how high we are in the towers here.

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And of course, the impact zone is in this general area.

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We'll see some activity in this location on the building leading up to the collapse.

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And then when the collapse initiates, we'll see some activity in this area as well. So those are the things to kind of keep in mind as we roll the tape here.

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So again, this is five times the speed, but we're starting to see that activity at the lower corner of the impact zone.

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And then as the collapse initiates in the center of the area, we'll see some other unique characteristics that we'll delve into.

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So it was pretty quick. You might have missed it. So let's now focus on just that collapse segment.

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And here it is at regular speed. So again, we'll have tower one and tower two. We've got the collapse or the impact zones.

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So once you've been using the area of focus for a collapse initiates and then some subsequent activity in the center of the tower, and we'll just go ahead and jump right into it.

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Okay, that was regular speed, but it was still pretty quick. So here we'll run it at half speed.

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Okay, and see if you can catch some of those nuances we're looking for.

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So I'll rewind it and we'll watch that again because there's a few spots to look at at the same time. So we're looking.

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Basically, there's kind of a bright spot in the middle of the tower above the impact zone. And if you watch kind of that region of the tape as it plays, you'll start to see some of the things that that we'll be looking at in more detail.

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All right, so here's the framework of the analysis that I undertook was basically there is a distinct corner of the building that's got a nice straight white line.

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And so we can trace that up and I placed my line where it aligns with kind of the dark edge of the building and the white face because it's a very broad line and I'm trying to kind of dial it in there. I am an engineer.

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So now we'll step through video frames as we trace that corner. So basically I'd find the white line, I trace it down and we just repeat that process stepping through.

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And here we're just going frame by frame. But what we'll see is as the tower starts to tilt.

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We're able to follow the line to some degree. And then we get to a point where there seems to be a disconnect. We can see the top portion of the line of that corner of the building.

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So I can chase the bottom up, but I find that it also doesn't align with the top of the building. So there's there's something happening to this tilting top.

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In addition to the collapse that the occurring in that impact zone, there's something happening higher in the tower.

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So now we're just going to keep stepping through and again, the alignment wasn't caused by some misalignment of my markings. We're seeing that gosh, each time we step the frame, there's a disconnect.

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But what we'll then see is in this location it's the sort of a warm spot there. But now all of a sudden look, there's a bright white spot that's occurring well above the impact zone.

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And in the vicinity of this location where what I characterize as a king is occurring in this tilting top of tower two.

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So there's that bright white spot and it is basically at the base of this discontinuity that we see in that corner of the building.

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And we can continue tracking this and we can see that as much as we extend these lines that they're not lining up.

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In fact it appears that there are even perhaps further apart than they were.

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So we're starting looking at this.

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So something is happening that's causing the top of the tower to separate into two segments.

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And as we continue to watch how this can be traced, we end up starting to also notice that the red line seems to be falling.

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And the yellow line seems to be staying in place.

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And so when we take that together, we'll go to this next slide here and we'll just lay all of those trackers over the top of each other.

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So starting with the original red line that we had at the beginning and then dropping down to where we saw the motion of that red.

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Well we can see that there are two distinct tilting top segments of tower two.

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But this is just one two-dimensional perspective.

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Three dimensions is not perfectly perpendicular to our screen.

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And also then opportunity to try and quantify the rate of descent of the top segment and lower segment of tower two.

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Those are the interesting things I discovered with the tilting top of tower two.

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All right. Well thank you so much Brian.

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You know I mean a TED told me that you had some fascinating research here and I'm just suggesting it right now as I'm sitting watching this.

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And it was to take in a lot of tedious effort to look into that.

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So thank you for doing all that work and for showing up here tonight.

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All right ladies and gentlemen.

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So our next guest here is a person that to this audience probably doesn't need much of an introduction.

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This is John Cole.

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He's a professional civil engineer who is registered in Connecticut Florida and New Hampshire.

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He has over three decades of experience in civil engineering and construction management.

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Including building bridge utility and infrastructure design.

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He's famous for his series of videos documenting his 911 slash world trade center related experiments, including this one I found personally fascinating.

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He was able to construct what he called a thermetic box cutter using a thermite and some.

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Materials that he found and he showed that a properly made device could be constructed to slice through structural steel.

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So if you haven't checked out his videos, I definitely recommend it.

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It's all backyard experiments, but it supports our cause very well tonight.

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He's going to be talking about a new paper of his.

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So let's go ahead and add him into the stream here.

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Hello, John.

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Hey Andy, how you doing? Thanks.

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Oh, go ahead and get your presentation up.

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Go the floor is yours.

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All right. Well, thanks, Andy. I appreciate it. Yeah, I've been involved in this this truth movement for quite a while.

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Actually, back since early 2008, I did my experiment videos and the great thermate debate and all that stuff.

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I've kind of done some recent stuff. Actually, I kind of eased out of 911 for a while.

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Then I'm sort of getting pulled back into it now.

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I'm getting interested again in it because I think it's an important very important issue, especially with all things going on today.

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And so I've done some some kind of some updated recent research.

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And I call this I only have seven slides to go.

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Right call this the disappearing top block and the spires single column.

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Now for some background, I'm sure the vast majority of your listeners are well aware of the history of the the nest.

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And investigations rolling touched on it earlier today earlier tonight.

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But this was tasked by the US Congress to quote, determine why and how WTC won in WTC to collapse following the initial impacts of the aircraft.

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Well, they did a multimillion dollar study and they took it on over a year and a half and then rolling mentioned that.

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But interesting after a thousand and thousands of pages, they stopped their study at collapse initiation.

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Ignoring the actual collapse itself.

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And they simply concluded, you had a couple concluding comments, one of them was just at global collapse then ensued as if it was inevitable that it was going to happen.

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How would ensued they didn't exactly explain.

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As a matter of fact, later on, this said that they were quote, unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse.

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That's going to odd here we have something that that killed, you know, 2,800 souls and they weren't able to provide a full explanation of the collapse and they're the experts.

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They also said prior to this study, the the key theory at the time that was proposed by PBS Nova, all the science stations.

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ASEE was called the Pancake Type collapse, a progressive floor by floor Pancake collapse.

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Well, surprisingly, this said that they were unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse.

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It's also a little odd.

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So, missed never proposed their own collapse theory.

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They did support what's called a crush down crush up theory proposed by a couple of professors, lay and Byzant,

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where they mathematical paper that was developed through a number of years describing how the upper smaller top block of the floors and that's what Brian was just talking about him building to.

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How they crushed down the larger structure below and then once it got done crushing that larger structure below, once it hit bottom, those floors automatically crush themselves back up.

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So that's really the current theory that every likes to throw out, they like to throw out this mathematical paper, but let's take a look at some of the key assumptions in that paper and talk about them.

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This is this right here is there assumed two phase collapsed processes from their paper.

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This came out in 2007 initially it came out a couple days after 911, but it was edited and updated over the years.

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It was one in 2007 and there's another one just came out by the way.

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But they had a two phase collapsed process.

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The first phase they called the crush down phase where this smaller top floor area in tower one, it was like the top 12 or 13 floors in tower two as Brian point out.

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It was larger, it was maybe twice as big, but this basically shows tower one where this small upper top floor started dropping down this would be after the nist report concluded this is trying to continue and on from this report by these private professors.

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If this top block crushed down this larger colder stronger block and destroyed it all the way down to the ground and here is this top block here into basically crushed up rubble and then when this top block hit ground zero if you will then this top block according to their mathematical equations.

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It crushed itself back up in the crush up phase so when all was said and done there was just a small pile of rubble here.

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So again they had a two phase crush down crush up phase.

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Now they also put together a motion history graph for the entire collapsed duration.

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So in their paper they broke down they have two graphs and these look complicated, but they're not basically this is the north tower right here that I'm circling here.

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The blue line here is just nothing more than the elevation observed at the top corner of the tower and as time goes by as a second stick by of course the top the top elevation starts dropping.

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And it drops down around around 12.4 seconds that's the end of their crush down phase that means the top roof is all the way down and then it reverses in the last few seconds into the crush up day.

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So the total elapsed time and they say it's the entire collapsed duration not partial the whole building was down in about somewhere under 15 seconds.

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Well let's take a look let's take a look at what they had here and take a peek at how those towers fell.

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Fortunately we have a lot of videos of this so we can look at this thing this is the north tower.

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I'm going to play this clip I'm going to start through I play in a kind of piece by piece and I'm going to play the whole thing for everybody.

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So here's the north tower just before the collapse here comes the top block down the top floors and right about there after about three to four seconds we can't see that top block anymore it's it's gone.

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Now what they're saying in their papers that well that top block must just be hidden behind all that smoke and debris there.

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So that's what I call stage one where I call the top block the visible top block.

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From there we see a whole bunch of lateral ejections.

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Now I'm going to stop it here all this material is being blown is it over the top of the lower colder core the lower colder tower now it's not it's being blown away outside of the lower tower.

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So if it's being blown away there's an awful lot of mass there I don't know how much it is but there's an awful lot of mass that cannot even impact the lower tower so any mathematical equations.

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And these needs really to net out that mass so it doesn't impact the lower the lower structure if they're going to use their map.

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So here we go it's continuing down what I call the lateral phase now right about here.

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We're just starting to see this little fuzzy column stick enough but we're going to see a lot more of that in the next few seconds that is a top internal core column.

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Okay, now as we continue the rest of stage two I call stage two okay now stage two is down right about now and there was a north wind that day kind of blue the the smoke and the dust away so we have a pretty good visual of something still standing there it's a significant portion of the tower it's the whole central core.

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And that's about 60 floors high according to this it's pretty high it's a big structure there's others pictures showing it's there's more depth to it and they're all interlaced together.

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Well that that structure it's a free standing structure it's not a building but it's part of the structure that stands for another full 15 or more seconds.

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Okay and that's a standing there there's no motion.

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To about like I say about another 15 seconds and then here's this top column right here and there's nothing on top of it now then the whole central core.

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Starts dropping straight down it's not turning to dust it's dropping straight down and by the way that central core kind of what's known in the in the 911 world that's called the spire so if you hear me use the word spire it I'm talking about the central core columns that fell after.

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The the main event if you will so I'm just going to play this whole thing again I'm not going to interrupt it this time here stage one coming down that's the top stage where we can see it here stage to the lateral stage.

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Okay and then half way through this little bit beyond half way through his lateral stage we start to see that.

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That central core column sticking up there now everything's down except for a significant amount here of the central core that spire looks like a church spire is still standing that stands again for 15 seconds during stage three what I call stage three and then finally the last three seconds that drops straight down.

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Which should have been through which path of most resistance didn't tip over up plenty of trees down and never see one goes straight down like that but that's what we observed and by the way you won't see this on TV anymore during the 911 anniversary they only show.

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They don't they don't show the collapse of the buildings so that's what we actually observe now let's go back and let's let's look at their assumption in their paper versus the reality of what we all observe just now so again this is.

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In their paper this is their two phase of collapse process the crush down in the crush up phase and this is their assumed motion history for the entire collapse duration.

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Actually I just did this I'm sorry let me jump ahead here okay this is their crush down crush up technical paper two phases here's the crush down phase here's the crush up phase.

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What did we just see well I just saw actually a four stage event.

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Stage one was where we could actually see the visible roof stage two is my lateral destruction and a ways through stage two we start to see that core core spires sticking through there.

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And then finally all this lateral destruction destruction is down and now we're just looking at stage three the standing core that last for about three seconds or so.

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As a free standing structure and then stage four is the final falling core so really this is more appropriate I think based on observational evidence.

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What they had in the paper they they forgot to add the core column in their in their crush down as well as their crush up phase they just they omitted it.

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Now let's take a look take a look at their assumed motion history in their mathematical paper and their crush down crush up paper they again they they provided these two graphs we just showed them before this is what they provided and the whole their whole event was over in less than 15 seconds.

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And again their title this is motion histories of the tower for the entire collapsed duration.

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Okay, this is the North tower this is the South are both cases is less and definitely less than 15 seconds are standing entire building fell down well.

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We all just saw that the entire building was not down in 15 seconds there was a significant amount of the core that was still standing so.

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I created another motion history as far as what at least what I observed.

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I basically agree through their through their first portion of the falling building this is my stage one where we can see the.

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The still some of the top block this is stage two where you see that lateral ejection.

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Now this lateral ejection of debris kind of ends again down at that 14 or 15 second level level but overlapping that stage two is that standing core okay.

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So that standing core didn't move down it went straight across for another 15 seconds with no motion whatsoever again it was a free standing structure and then.

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In stage four in the last three seconds we saw those that remaining structure fall straight down well beyond 30 seconds we sign up we kind of lose view but we lose view of the 30 seconds but I had to continue down so.

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In my opinion the observed motion history for the entire collapse this graph here that I developed is really more representative of what we actually observed.

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Now let's just take one more quick look let's take a look at this one tall column right here this is the this is that central core which stood for.

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Again, at least 15 to 20 seconds this is the spire notice this one tall column here first of all straight notice also there used to be connected okay this was all interconnected with floor systems in there.

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And when it was designed and built and standing less than a minute before this was what we would call the braced column in other words it was connected at the bottom it was also connected by the floor trusses all the way up here maybe the elevator shafts and it was connected at the top so in engineers design columns they look at what the bracing system is in a brace column something that's connected at the top in the bottom can withhold more.

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Vertical load then an unbraced column this is now for these 15 seconds in the time before this is now an unbraced column with it fixed on the bottom we call free floating at the top.

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And just using some engineer lingo that this is this is now a it's a larger with the call effective length for the column and a larger cylinder slenderless slenderness ratio.

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Which is really nothing more than saying that when it's in this kind of condition this column can hold a lot less than it could when it was designed.

365
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Okay so what well the so what is during that stage to a collapse when this top lock alleged top lock was coming down.

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The downward vertical force on this column had to have been less not more than its design original design capacity to this column.

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And the reason we know it had be less is that if it was more not only is the effective length longer, but we would have seen a buckled column and we don't see a buckled column that things crease straight as well as here's another free standing column and another one none of those columns were buckled.

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So the downward force had to be less during the collapse rather than more.

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So what can we conclude with my with this well first of all the two phase crush down crush up scenario that was assumed in the model has got to be wrong.

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Because we just observed at least we just observed four stages the visual top stage a lateral destruction stage the standing core stage and the falling core stage.

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The second thing is that the assume duration of less than 15 seconds for total collapse.

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Well that's also wrong even this technology and I quote from video evidence significant portions of the course of both buildings roughly 60 stories for WTC one and 40 stories for WTC two are known to have stood 15 to 25 seconds after collapse initiation.

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Before they to began to collapse so they knew it they knew it but nested enough to address it because they stopped their study prior to all this happening.

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The third thing we can conclude is that the top block of floors was not hidden in the dust nor could have remained intact all the way down to the ground.

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Well why is it that had to been destroyed early early on because it could not have passed through the still standing core intact how do you have a solid intact block dropping through a standing core well it can't happen if it's intact.

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So the assume crush down phase has to be wrong based on observation.

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The fourth thing is is there could not have been any crush up phase either because the spire columns that were standing for at least 15 seconds after the main event would have impeded any kind of crush up and plus or wouldn't many solid block to crush up anyhow because it couldn't have got through that core.

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Any downward force of the falling top must have been less not more than the design load of those spires that were still or the still standing column or we would have seen it buckled in bent but we didn't it was straight so the impose load of the falling top block must have been disintegrated had to have been less during the event.

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So since that top block was destroyed some unnatural force must have blown the building material laterally because the top block couldn't have done it didn't exist allowing those core columns to still stand and be exposed so we could all see it so it had to have been blown out.

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Also some unnatural force must have been applied to the remaining core columns that were standing there for for so long causing those to accelerate straight down through its path of most resistance because everything else of the building was gone so there must have been some outside force that brought those down again they didn't turn the dust they fell straight down.

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Now this crush down crush up paper was originally submitted a couple days after at least a simplified theory was submitted two days after 9-11 was quite remarkable and it was been updated over the years.

382
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It was updated in 2007 and it's actually just been relatively recently updated.

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It's uploaded to the American Society of Civil Engineers well I recently submitted what's called a discussion paper which in which I just kind of outlined some of these concerns that I had to the ASC.

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So I'm hoping you know by raising these concerns this will allow them to go back to the authors and give them the opportunity to either correct their mathematics to address this additional information use for stage collapse.

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Or maybe even discard this crush down crush up theory like the pancake theory has been has been discarded by nist.

386
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But because of this evidence here this may explain why the nist stopped their study before collapse even started and why they couldn't explain to total collapse and also why they were silent about the last 30 seconds.

387
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And that's it that's all I have to prevent well present Andy.

388
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Well, John I mean I know you couldn't see me there in the waiting room but I kind of sat there with my jaw drop like this I thought that I've get you know that we have gathered everything that we can on this and you just completely come in with a new thing.

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I'm familiar of course with the illustration by nist of this top block coming down.

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I'm suddenly inexplicably disappearing in the last panel quite hilariously but then and I've seen the spire but I've never put the two before here and realize that the spire completely disproves that illustration from nist.

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It is amazing and this is what I call an official story silver bullet I've got my own list of them here just certain points that immediately throws the investigation out the window justifies rerunning of the analysis a whole new report.

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This is now made the list I'm actually going to watch this again later tonight and we're definitely going to be talking more about this so thank you so much for doing this research.

393
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Presenting it here tonight. We're going to be talking to you a little bit later so you'll be sticking around but we appreciate you and everything you're doing so just want you to know that.

394
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Great thanks Andy appreciate it.

395
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All right ladies and gentlemen so fascinating I haven't seen these presentations yet so I'm learning along with the audience here and I'm going to be processing more of this later after this is done.

396
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We've got another great researcher coming up here. I'm very familiar with him. We work together every single day of course this is Ted Walter. He is the director of strategy and development here at a e911 truth.

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He holds a master of public policy degree from the University of California Berkeley prior to his current role with a he he was director of NYC cans 2014 high rise safety initiative he was a volunteer campaign manager for eight years rethink 911 campaign back in 2013 very successful.

398
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That was and director of NYC cans 2009 ball in the initiative. I mean he's been working hard for 911 truth for a number of years. He's also the lead author of the booklet beyond misinformation. I'd hold up my coffee but it's all damaged. I always reference it.

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And so because it's so informative as well as world trades center physics and request for correction to this world trade center seven report which he's going to be talking about tonight so let me find Ted here there he is and let me show your presentation.

400
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And Ted I'm going to disappear you have.

401
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Thank you thank you so much.

402
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Thank you everybody for being here this evening. Thank you Matt for speaking. Thank you for you and your family are doing.

403
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Thank you.

404
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John thank you Brian I want to say a couple words about John's analysis and his paper before I dive into what I'm going to talk about you know I'm very excited about of it you know just as Andy was very excited about john's analysis and the paper that the discussion paper that he submitted.

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Very recently to the ASC Journal of Social Engineering.

406
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Critiquing a paper that is a dynamic design and juggling way just published earlier this year in that journal these are the same authors that published the paper.

407
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A little over a decade ago which we've been talking a lot about recently because one of our key volunteers petition signers Tony's emboity and another gentleman submitted a discussion paper critiquing the 2011 paper from the

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exam and what's interesting about their paper and john's paper is that they were looking at the very beginning of the North tower's collapse those first few seconds where there's no jolt there's no observable deceleration.

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And they had a chance in a checkmate because they showed that the values the imped values in his analysis were incorrect and if you use the right values for the weight of the upper structure and the resistance of the columns below.

410
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And that in normal gravity German collapse the top would have slowed down.

411
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Because they had him in a checkmate would essentially happen was the editors of the journal said your paper is out of scope.

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And they have been fighting in ever since and we are still fighting in their paper we have a four year at this complaint that's still underway and they their paper is now being re-reviewed by the journal of engineering mechanics.

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John john is submitted this discussion to the journal of structural engineering.

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He also has a present and a checkmate and the beauty of it the poetry is that he's looking at the very end of the collapse whereas Tony and Richard Johns were looking at the beginning of the collapse.

415
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So there's yet this other period of observational evidence where the crush down crush up theory doesn't work.

416
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And what's perhaps intriguing about this one is that you know John doesn't have to get into any really complicated equations and formulas which are.

417
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Byzantium and Leia strong suit he's just saying you know pure logic this your model doesn't it doesn't account for cannot account for this spire that remains standing.

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So we wish John the best and we hope that you know I believe he has.

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And this is crushed down crush up in the checkmate let's hope that the editor is at the journal don't tip the chessboard over and allow this checkmate to actually take place and see how Byzant and Leia will respond.

420
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I'm going to talk about another process where we're kind of going up against.

421
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We have gone up against one of the main promoters of the official story of the Twin Towers destruction that obviously being missed.

422
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And we also had them in a checkmate in a number of ways scientifically with the request for correction that we submitted in the spring of 2020.

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We looked at eight different areas of the niss report that we argued missed violated its own information quality standards and so very methodically we showed.

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And about a hundred pages.

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What was wrong with this analysis and why violated its information quality standards.

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As as many of the listeners know this process lasted for over a year, this finally declined our request for correction last year in the summer we then filed a lawsuit trying to get niss to go back and actually respond to our request for correction in a meaningful way.

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And we were able to have a really nice, was able to evade this checkmate because the process of the request for correction is a fairly weak process missed pretty much I could troll over the process and now the courts are saying things like we don't have a right to.

428
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You know agencies like miss publishing truthful information and we don't have standing to actually challenge how missed handled the request for correction.

429
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And we're we're appealing miss and we're fighting to have nisco back there's been some there's been a lot of value produced throughout this process by some of the original research that was done as we were putting the request for correction together and also some of the things that.

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came back and said in response to our arguments.

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And so what I'm going to do try to be brief is touch on some of the biggest takeaways from this request for correction a few of the things that were discovered and preparing it and a few of them the important things that niss said in response.

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I'm going to skip the kind of the if the first part of the request for correction where we really look in detail of the collapse initiation mechanism and the various ways in which niss modeling.

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Was flawed and the ways in which the initiating mechanism of the the alleged initiating mechanism of the collapse would be impossible.

434
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It's very technical it's very very like dry engineering stuff.

435
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I'm going to focus in some of the bigger takeaways that pretty much anybody should be able to understand.

436
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Perhaps the the the the the biggest thing the biggest thing that what this what this report what's niss report really centered on was producing a model that they could then say.

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explain.

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Um, looked like the actual collapse that they were able to replicate the observatory behavior.

439
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So what you're looking at right now is is a key statement and then is supporting it's one that we really highlighted in the request for correction.

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Um, and I'll read it for you.

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The global collapse analysis match the observed behavior reasonably well.

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The global collapse analyses confirmed the leading collapse hypothesis.

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So so based on that claim that their model match the behavior they said that their model confirmed their hypothesis.

444
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Um, what we showed methodically in the request for correction was that it didn't notice two sides of this equation of.

445
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Um, matching the observed behavior there's the model side and then there's the actual observed behavior.

446
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Um, niss does something very important in mischaracterizing the observed behavior.

447
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Um, and this was really first developed and discovered by David Chandler a little over a decade ago.

448
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And as part of this process of putting this request for correction together, um, David updated his analysis.

449
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Um, and it was included in this request for correction.

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And so that's what I want to share part of what I want to share with you here.

451
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Um, move to the next slide here.

452
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Okay.

453
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So, um, niss says, uh, it part of finally it's trying to explain the free fall of building seven.

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Niss and their final report came out and said we have three stages of descent.

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The first one is this this one point seven five second stage where the building moves a little bit slower slower than gravity.

456
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Uh, then in stage two we get into actual free fall and for purposes of tonight at the stage three is not that important.

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The top the building gets to slow down.

458
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Um, these are the graphs that niss, um, produce and it's report.

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The, what I'm ultimately going to say is that the, that first stage that niss described is actually completely made up and this was really confirmed through.

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Um, the analysis that was done for the request for correction.

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So niss says in their, um, and the report that they tracked the downward motion of the roof line.

462
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Um, by tracking, uh, the position of a single point near the center of the roof line.

463
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All right. So what you see here on the left is the, the displacement of the roof line.

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You see it like they have it starting to move and that first second and a half.

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Uh, and then they have their graph here where they have the free for the stage two free fall.

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Um, niss really, it's really important for niss that they can say that the first part that there was a build up to free fall that free fall wasn't instantaneous.

467
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Um, or wasn't across the entire width of the building.

468
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Um, in fact, that's, that's what we and what David Chandler discovered and doing and updating his analysis for this request for correction.

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Um, whereas niss looks at one single, uh, point in the roof line near the center.

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What David did earlier in the beginning of his research, he was looking at one corner of the building.

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Uh, eventually he decided, he said, why am I doing that? Let me look at all three.

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Look, let me look at the entire roof line. So he found a point in the one corner, the middle of the building and the other corner and he tracked it.

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This is the video that he used. I'll just play it really quickly and for anybody who hasn't seen the collapse before.

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This is it. You'll see the east penthouse goes down first about seven seconds before the rest of the building.

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Okay.

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So, these are the, these are the graphs that David produced in this analysis.

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Um, what he found was, okay, in the middle of the building, there is a little bit of movement in the beginning.

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Uh, and that's what you're looking at in the middle. Here's the displacement. Sorry. Here's the displacement and here's the acceleration.

479
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Um, but what he found then was that after about 1, 1, 0.75, 1, 0.8 seconds after the time that niss says the, the collapse initiated all three points in the roof line go into free fall simultaneously.

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Uh, within a tenth of a second of each other. So there's a little bit movement of the middle. It just drops like a few feet stops drops another foot or two and then boom.

481
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The whole thing goes into free fall.

482
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So really the more accurate way to describe what happened was basically what I just said, a little bit of movement in the middle and then the entire roof line goes into free fall at the same time.

483
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Um, niss, niss confirms this for us.

484
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Um, figure two, figure five, 200, one of their report.

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Uh, this might be a little confusing at first, but basically what niss does done is taken two photos and laid them on top of each other of building seven.

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The first one is five seconds after the collapse of the, the east penthouse.

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The second one is seven and a half seconds. So they're two and a half seconds apart.

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And when you, they overlay them and they do some sort of effect. What they're looking at is the change in the placement of the building, the amount of downward motion.

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And that's represented by that really light colored sliver there.

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So that's where the building is actually moved from five seconds to seven and a half seconds after the east penthouse collapse.

491
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Uh, what's interesting about seven and a half seconds is that is point six seconds. So about a half second into the period of collapse.

492
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Where niss says the collapse started. So over over a half a second into the supposed collapse of the whole structure.

493
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Um, or the exterior shell.

494
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Uh, most of the building hasn't moved.

495
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Um, and this is essentially what David would David channel. I was showing that analysis was that the corners hadn't really moved yet.

496
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And niss actually says in the report interestingly, little movement of the northeast and northwest corners of the building is indicated.

497
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Exactly. Um, so here I'm going to show you and this is the other side of the equation now. We show the niss mischaracterized the collapse by saying that there's a set over a second and a half of gradual build up.

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This is their actual model. I'm just going to run for anybody who hasn't seen it before.

499
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Okay.

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We took a really close look at their model, which hadn't really been done before this request for correction process.

501
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Sorry, one second. Okay. So here I overlay two images from their model. The first one, which is really light is right before the collapse begins before the collapse of the east penthouse.

502
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The second one, which is bolder is right at the point where they say global collapse initiates where the whole building starts to go down.

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As you can see, there's actually quite a bit of deformation to the building at the point where they say that the global collapse initiates.

504
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As we just saw, there was there's zero movement or deformation to the building.

505
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In, in the actual video, when the collapse even after the collapse started, there was zero movement or deformation of the corners.

506
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They have an interesting claim in their, one of their FAQs. They say only in the later stages of the animation after the initiation of global collapse.

507
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To the upper exterior wall deformations from the Nissenauce differ from the video images.

508
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Well, this overlay of their model shows that that is categorically false actually, and this is a lot of deformation.

509
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It's maybe hard to see in this picture, but actually like the entire east side of the building is basically cave downwards.

510
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:55,240
That's a lot of deformation, and that's before the collapse initiates.

511
01:17:55,240 --> 01:18:01,240
We pointed this out in their request for correction, and that's one of the many things that we asked them to change.

512
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:11,240
And they came back in their response and literally just made the same claim again, as if we hadn't said anything in the request for correction.

513
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:18,240
Other ways in which their model does not actually represent the reproduced the observed collapse.

514
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:28,240
I'm just going to read that what they themselves say, the building started to tip a little bit northwards and then settled back into its original line and fell nearly vertically.

515
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:32,240
And that's represented here, you can see nearly vertically.

516
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:36,240
The building fell straight down according to this.

517
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:44,240
Does this model show the building falling vertically or a little bit to the north and then straight down?

518
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,240
No, it actually shows the building tipping to the south.

519
01:18:48,240 --> 01:19:02,240
And one of the reasons why NISC probably cut off their model, you know, about 1.8 seconds into the collapse, which was before free fall, is that they realized that the building was tipping over.

520
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:08,240
And if it weren't any further, it would probably tip a lot more.

521
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:15,240
Okay, so those are the big takeaways with this failure to replicate the observed collapse.

522
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:20,240
I'm going to quickly touch in a few other big takeaways that are easy for anybody to understand.

523
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,240
I think they're important for people to know.

524
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:29,240
NISC says in their report that there were no witness reports of such a loud noise, essentially there was no reports of an explosion.

525
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:39,240
Because they did this analysis to show that if there was an explosion capable of just trying to calm them in the building, it would be 140 decibels.

526
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,240
That's that is a mislead analysis.

527
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,240
They didn't assume any noise abatement.

528
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,240
They didn't consider the use of thermite or something else that would be quieter.

529
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:54,240
But in any case, they said essentially that there were no witness reports of explosions.

530
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,240
I'm going to the first clip I'm going to play really quickly.

531
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:58,240
People might have heard that.

532
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,240
Yeah, I'm trying to understand there.

533
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,240
You know, we were watching the building actually because of the bomb fire.

534
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,240
The bomb fire was over there.

535
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,240
I'm filming off fire.

536
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:12,240
And we heard this sound like a clap of thunder.

537
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,240
There'd around here we stopped the speed at the building.

538
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,240
Well, I'm going to take it with a shot wave.

539
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,240
I think it's building.

540
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:21,240
We got the bomb.

541
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,240
So on the day of 911, we had somebody say that there was a shockwave or something to the building.

542
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:30,240
We had a thunder obviously other people later into the future described explosions.

543
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,240
Craig Bartmer, the NYPD officer.

544
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,240
But as we were.

545
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:40,240
The day that we submitted the appeal of this initial decision in September of 2020.

546
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:46,240
Somebody sent us this new eyewitness account, a video clip of a New York one reporter.

547
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,240
And so and I would.

548
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,240
We had just submitted the appeal and I was like, shucks.

549
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,240
I really would have liked to include it that.

550
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,240
Let me play it for you.

551
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,240
The fire was going to get worse.

552
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,240
All of a sudden a loud, dreadful loud explosion.

553
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,240
And we have the video to show you.

554
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:05,240
All right.

555
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,240
So that was the first time I had ever seen that clip.

556
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:13,240
An actual reporter from New York one saying that there was a loud and incredibly loud explosion when building seven went down.

557
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:17,240
So we deliberated for deliberated for a couple months and decided to go ahead and submit.

558
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,240
Make a supplemental submission to niss.

559
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,240
With that new eyewitness account.

560
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:30,240
Because it was consistent with the arguments that we will already making the request for correction that there were eyewitness reports of explosions.

561
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:35,240
We thought that they would consider it because it was totally relevant.

562
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,240
We actually submitted that in December.

563
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:43,240
And then in December I finally heard back from the cameraman who the reporter named in the video.

564
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,240
Because I tried to contact him. I wanted to confirm where this reporter was.

565
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:51,240
And I figured I wish he was. He told me wish he was.

566
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:55,240
And I found her contact info emailed her and she emailed me back.

567
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,240
Her name is Gigi Stonewoods and she wrote in her email.

568
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:03,240
All I remember is that we were reporting near building seven heard a loud explosion and people yelling to run.

569
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,240
And we all did.

570
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,240
So she confirmed her account.

571
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,240
And we then.

572
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,240
Contact and this again in January saying hey we know who it was.

573
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:19,240
This is her contact info you should interview her.

574
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:25,240
And this was about six months before and it's responded respond with their final decision on the request for correction.

575
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:29,240
In their final letter in July of June of 2021.

576
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:34,240
This is what they had to say about that since the supplemental information and the additional emails were submitted.

577
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,240
Well beyond the 30 calendar days from August 28 2020.

578
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,240
They were excluded from the record.

579
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,240
However, for the same reasons explicated below.

580
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,240
Had they been considered by this.

581
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,240
They would not have altered this decision on the appeal.

582
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:49,240
I wonder why they didn't.

583
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,240
Include them.

584
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,240
If they could just be explained away like like the rest of the evidence.

585
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,240
So what are the reasons that they explicated below?

586
01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:01,240
This is the closest thing that we have to an explication from this.

587
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:06,240
Further in the letter they say the request or a pelence approach has many differences with the approach taken by nist.

588
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:14,240
These differences include the methods used to collect and analyze first person accounts like contacting the witnesses and asking them what they witnessed.

589
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:20,240
Due to these differences the resulting outcomes from the request or a pelence approach do not have an impact on nist findings.

590
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:25,240
So that was their explanation.

591
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:31,240
I want to quickly just point out people are going to be familiar with the Barry Jennings account.

592
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,240
People may be less familiar with Michael Hess who was with Barry Jennings in the building.

593
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,240
So I'm just going to play his video really quickly.

594
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:38,240
Yes, there was.

595
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:44,240
I was up in the emergency management center of the 23rd floor and when all the power went out in the building.

596
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,240
Another gentleman and I went down to the A4 floor.

597
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:55,240
They were the explosion and we've been trapped on the A4 floor with no fixed smoke while around us for about an hour and a half.

598
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:56,240
Okay.

599
01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:01,240
So nist story is that these two gentlemen started.

600
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,240
We're on the 23rd floor in the emergency operations.

601
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:09,240
I started to leave that floor around 959 when the South Tower collapsed.

602
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,240
And that it took them.

603
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:21,240
But that the event that they witnessed the explosion as they described it was actually just the collapse of the north tower's debris from the north tower impacting building 7.

604
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,240
Well that occurred at 1028.

605
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:33,240
So how do they leave the 23rd floor at 959 and take some 29 minutes or thereabouts to descend only 14 to 16 floors?

606
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,240
That's something like almost two minutes of floor.

607
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,240
So really their timeline doesn't make any sense.

608
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:43,240
There's no way that what that buried that it took for the Benning very Jennings and Michael has got down to the A4.

609
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:48,240
Anywhere close to 1028 would have been much earlier like 1010 or so.

610
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,240
So we raised this issue in the request for correction.

611
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,240
This is nist only response.

612
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,240
So we now know for a fact that nist cannot.

613
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:02,240
That has no answer with their account of what happened to Michael lesson and.

614
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:10,240
And very Jennings nist disagrees with the assertion that it distorted iwiness reports of an explosion occurring inside WTC seven.

615
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:17,240
The rescue events documented in NC star 1 dash 9 section 6 5 2 are based on eight independent interviews.

616
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,240
That's all they wrote.

617
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:24,240
I thought that when I started reading that I thought that they would elaborate on what what they found in those interviews, but they didn't.

618
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,240
So we have no they did not explain why how it took.

619
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:33,240
Jennings and has 29 minutes to descend you know roughly 16 floors.

620
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:40,240
Lastly, um big takeaway for people to know is that nist refused to.

621
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:45,240
Exam in the steel that is still that work or Worcester polytechnic institute.

622
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:51,240
And because we claim that they should examine the steel and that they should run experiments to try to reproduce.

623
01:25:51,240 --> 01:26:00,240
The the sulfidation inter granular melting, which John Cole also ran those experiments in his backyard some 12 plus years ago and found that that would not occur.

624
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,240
We thought nist should do the same.

625
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:13,240
We thought nist might have some interesting excuse for explanation for what happened to that steel because actually it's no no one has provided a valid explanation.

626
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:26,240
This was nist reason for not examining that steel and the absence of a method to confirm that that the FEMA 403 sample one that was tested at WPI, where Chester polytick exist to is in fact steel from WTC seven.

627
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:34,240
There's no justified will basis for conducting further analyses to examine other theories that explain the cause of the erosion in the sample.

628
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:38,240
So in other words, they're saying we don't know for sure that that steel can from WTC seven.

629
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:42,240
So there's no justifiable basis for conducting further analyses.

630
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:56,240
First of all, if it were a real genuine legitimate investigation, they would conduct that they would they wouldn't examine that steel no matter what even if there was a 50% chance it was rebuilding seven or a 25% chance.

631
01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:09,240
But beyond that, you know, pretty much every every scientist engineer who has studied this piece of steel at WPI or elsewhere,

632
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:21,240
believes that it came from building seven that that was uncontroversial until until nistmated controversial with their refusal to examine the steel and I'll just play one very short clip and then we'll be.

633
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:28,240
In New England, the claims of the mysterious melted steel from talis seven has been unraveled.

634
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:34,240
It was found by five protection engineer, Professor Jonathan Bonette, in a salvage yard.

635
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:41,240
It came from a much larger, a this was the size of steel that they used the construction of talis seven.

636
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:47,240
They didn't use this particular kind of steel in talis one or talis two.

637
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,240
So that's why we know it's pedigree.

638
01:27:50,240 --> 01:28:00,240
All right, so no question that the steel came from building seven, but nist says we're not going to investigate it because we don't know for sure that it came from building seven.

639
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,240
All right, so the big takeaways just to summarize.

640
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:13,240
The entire building seven roof line entered free fall simultaneously and instantly instantaneously nist stage one is completely made up.

641
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:18,240
Number two, the nist model in no way and no respect matches the observed behavior.

642
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:23,240
We showed this by taking a real close look at their model.

643
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:31,240
Nist refuses to interview a confirmed WTC seven explosion witness whose contact information we provided to nist.

644
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:35,240
Number four, Nist has no answer for the Jennings has timeline issue.

645
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:44,240
And number five, Nist refuses to examine WTC seven steel based on the false and unscientific ground that we don't know for sure it's from WTC seven.

646
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:54,240
If you want to look at some of the other things that some of the big takeaways from this whole request for correction process, you can go to a e911 truth dot or forward slash nist.

647
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,240
We have a series that has been started.

648
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:01,240
Five parts series, we've written two parts of so far called.

649
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:06,240
What is it called nist confirms that it's building seven report is undefensible.

650
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:15,240
So take a look at that and in the first couple parts, we examined the more technical engineering side of things with the initiating mechanism.

651
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:19,240
So thank you very much.

652
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:26,240
Well, Ted, thank you very much for that astonishing analysis. That's the best way I can describe it.

653
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:36,240
Every time you do you come back with one of these reports or papers or whatever you find all these facts that completely refute what nist says and I think a big problem for them.

654
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:48,240
Is that you got an event that was so globally covered that you can find these observable facts all throughout the coverage of that day all throughout this the reports that all they can really.

655
01:29:48,240 --> 01:30:05,240
All they can really do is just look the other way almost like a mobster with a really good lawyer but the thing is it almost sounds kind of funny like they say that you know we don't know that the steel came from real trade center seven and then here's Ted playing a clip of them saying a came from real trade center seven.

656
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:22,240
You know, but it's not funny because they're playing games with the murder investigation that took thousands of lives. So that's why what you're doing is so important and of course, what everybody else here tonight is presenting is so important as well. So thank you for bringing this to our audience here tonight.

657
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,240
Thanks Eddie.

658
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:44,240
All right, so we are going to be bringing Roland angle back on he again he's our CEO here at a e 911 true and he's going to be joined by Scott Granger and Scott Granger is a board member here at a email 11 true with he's a civil and fire protection engineer licensed licensed in several states.

659
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:59,240
He was a resident engineer for the US army core of engineers and he ran his own engineering firm for many years specializing in fire protection engineering fire in building code consulting and forensic engineering. So he really knows his stuff when it comes to the subject.

660
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:06,240
He graduated from Colorado State University with a bachelor of science and civil engineering and they're going to be talking about.

661
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:25,240
A. E. 911 truths pre building seven free collapsed study. So I am going to leave the streamer to get their visual aid up in just a moment, but guys go ahead and get.

662
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:32,240
And I'm not hearing Roland Roland does make sure you're not on mute test.

663
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,240
There you go, perfect.

664
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:54,240
Okay, last year we went specifically on a search for a fire protection engineer and of course one of the first persons that we thought of was Scott because he's done so much for our investigation process in the past.

665
01:31:55,240 --> 01:32:02,240
And he really has the credentials to investigate a subject that we've been wanting to look at more closely for a long time.

666
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:07,240
And that is what happened in regard to the fires in building seven.

667
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:16,240
And the reason why this question is so important is because this claims that it was the fires that brought the building down.

668
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:29,240
And of course that's never happened before in the history of high rise steel frame buildings. So that is an extraordinary claim and it needs extraordinary proof to back it up.

669
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:43,240
We want to look, we had Professor Housie conduct study on the collapse of the building itself and Professor Housie in order to try to replicate their results.

670
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:53,240
He took the fire information that NIST provided and he used that as the input for the thermal effect on his structure.

671
01:32:53,240 --> 01:33:04,240
However, and looking at the information as we went through that process, we came to realize that there's a lot wrong with the fire thermal input load that this foot of the structure.

672
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:24,240
So, and Professor Housie are now going to embark upon a thorough study of what happened to building seven starting at 647 in that morning when the fire alarm system was turned off and put on his test mode until the building came down at 520 in the afternoon.

673
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:41,240
So Scott, I'm going to turn it over to you. You've got an outline here of the areas of investigation you're going to have to go through with Professor Housie in regards to the fires at building seven. So take it away.

674
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,240
Okay, thank you, Roland.

675
01:33:45,240 --> 01:34:03,240
The, it's been my experience in forensic engineering and I've done a lot of loss investigations related to fire sprinkler systems alarm systems all types of fire separations.

676
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:18,240
That the detail in the report needs to start early. In other words, it always works well if you get a history on the building and what's been going on in this case.

677
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:32,240
We're going to, we're starting at as Roland mentioned early in the morning at that point the fire alarm system was put into a test mode.

678
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:39,240
Why? Who did it? We don't know, but we'll find out.

679
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:57,240
The, by putting an intestinal that meant that anything else that was done in the building almost related to the fire sprinkler systems any other fire suppression systems and the fire alarm systems.

680
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:03,240
If they were disabled for some reason would not create an alarm condition.

681
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:12,240
And in other words, the fire alarm wouldn't respond because the system was an intest mode.

682
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:17,240
That's the reason you put something like that in, so you can actually test it.

683
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:38,240
But it's also could be used to take the system basically out of service and not create a condition where someone would come out to see how come you've taken the sprinkler system out of service in building seven in this case.

684
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:46,240
And there's a lot of data that's important to this kind of an exercise.

685
01:35:47,240 --> 01:36:07,240
But I want to back up a little bit and remind everybody that one of the prime goals of eight, nine, eleven truth is always been to get an independent

686
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:13,240
investigation into the failures of all three towers.

687
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:31,240
Well, the current test, the current evaluation of the structural collapse of WTC seven is very close to being just that for the World Trade Center seven.

688
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:37,240
And in that case, eight, nine, eleven truth did it.

689
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:49,240
They went to the University of Alaska and contracted with them to do the investigation evaluation.

690
01:36:49,240 --> 01:37:11,240
And now we're going to, I think, finish that investigation for WTC seven pretty much with this report that we're working on now related to the fire sprinkler systems, fire suppression systems and fire alarm systems.

691
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:25,240
So, with that, when we finish this, I think we will be fully one third of the way done with our original goals as far as the collapses.

692
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:46,240
And I rather imagine that when with your support, as Roland mentioned earlier, obviously for some of this kind of work, it takes some finances and we appreciate very much your financial support.

693
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:57,240
And your support otherwise, not everybody has to give money in order to provide support for the organization.

694
01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:15,240
So, anyway, getting back to this outline, we really don't know at this point very much at all about the fire suppression systems within the building.

695
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:21,240
And this is all about WTC seven, so we're going to keep that in mind.

696
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:29,240
There were a number of fires in the building on various floors, lower floors. It's a 47 story building.

697
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:40,240
And the fires that occurred were down between approximately floor seven through 13.

698
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:45,240
And that's a long way from the top of the building.

699
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:54,240
And the fires traveled around various portions of the different floors.

700
01:38:55,240 --> 01:39:01,240
They traveled in different directions and depending upon which floor you were looking at.

701
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:14,240
And typically, well, historically, for design of suppression systems, you've got one fire in the building.

702
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:18,240
Pick a place for the fire and the systems design to suppress it.

703
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:25,240
If you start adding more fires, the system's going to have a little bit of a problem suppressing the fire.

704
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:28,240
But that rarely occurs.

705
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:38,240
And the damage, minimal damage to WTC seven from flying debris from.

706
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:50,240
Towers one and two at this point doesn't appear to have been significant enough to cause some of the fires that we've got to deal with.

707
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:58,240
I've particularly seen some of the fires don't appear to have even started on the side of the building where any damage occurred.

708
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:12,240
We've got to put all that together in a timeline by floor by floor and at the same time, the investigating what happened to the waters of fly supposedly.

709
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:17,240
The military court says that the.

710
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:24,240
The was no water for WTC seven well, we have.

711
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:35,240
On the ground interviews reports from fire department officials stating that yes, there was water available.

712
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:37,240
But there wasn't any water in the building.

713
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:41,240
Why had the system been shut down. We don't know yet.

714
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:44,240
And we don't know who may have done it.

715
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:50,240
But the issue really is.

716
01:40:50,240 --> 01:41:02,240
Why the fact that there wasn't a water, but there was a lot of available contrary to what this says again the mystery court.

717
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,240
And significant question on that point.

718
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:12,240
We're looking for information on the sprinkler system themselves.

719
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:17,240
Any kind of piping details drawings that we might be able to get.

720
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:24,240
The next item in the list here item five is the combustible fuel that was in the building.

721
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:28,240
This was an office building.

722
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:36,240
It wasn't the storage facility for highly combustible materials.

723
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:46,240
It had the normal desks and chairs and filing cabinets and so forth and stacks of paper on people's desks and so forth.

724
01:41:46,240 --> 01:42:02,240
Those kinds of materials simply don't normally develop enough heat to make to create the damage that this claims occurred in the steel.

725
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:05,240
So we have to look at that.

726
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:14,240
That's already been looked at by this and in some portions of the policy report.

727
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:22,240
But we're going to do a little more investigation related to that so that we can.

728
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:33,240
Maybe more effectively put that to bed and other various items that besides the combustibility, what was in it.

729
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:36,240
The structural fireproofing of the steel.

730
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:39,240
We have indications that the steel was fireproofed.

731
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,240
Miss claimed that it wasn't.

732
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:55,240
And then we have an item seven the questions on fire travel where the fires were traveling around on the floors.

733
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:59,240
That's not a normal condition.

734
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:04,240
And we did we did have some windows in place.

735
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:09,240
And we know which directions the wind was blowing that day.

736
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:16,240
And that doesn't drive necessarily very well with how the fires were traveling inside the building.

737
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:23,240
And the fact that the fires would come back to areas where they had already burned.

738
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:26,240
That is very irregular.

739
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:36,240
So what what we need to mark need to find more information about what's what happened inside the building is best we can.

740
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,240
And we do have.

741
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:42,240
Two individuals so we're actually in the building.

742
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:48,240
And now we're getting more information associated with that.

743
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:55,240
And that's that's where we are going with this.

744
01:43:55,240 --> 01:44:02,240
It is part of our plan to finish.

745
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,240
The analysis.

746
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:12,240
The independent analysis of WTC seven and then start.

747
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:17,240
And independent analysis on how is one and two.

748
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,240
And it seems that that's what we're going to do.

749
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:25,240
We we need a lot of support for that.

750
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:30,240
And it does not have to just come from on this within the US.

751
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,240
We have many people outside the US.

752
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:38,240
The been very supportive and we'll continue to.

753
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:41,240
Ask for more support.

754
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,240
I think with that.

755
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:51,240
I've given you an outline of what we're going to be doing on in regards to WTC seven.

756
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,240
For the next.

757
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,240
Considerable very.

758
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,240
All right.

759
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:01,240
Thanks Scott and good luck to you and Professor Housie with your work.

760
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:04,240
And I know we'll be looking forward to those results.

761
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:09,240
And they're very, very important to our analysis of what happened to the building seven.

762
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:13,240
When you're done, I think we'll have a very complete picture of what happened to the building that day.

763
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:17,240
From the beginning until the point that it collapsed.

764
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:19,240
And that's what we really need.

765
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,240
That's that's our goal.

766
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:26,240
And Professor Housie and I are working together on that.

767
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:27,240
Now.

768
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:29,240
All right.

769
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:30,240
Good luck.

770
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:31,240
Thank you.

771
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:32,240
Thanks.

772
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:33,240
Yeah.

773
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:34,240
And Scott, I just wanted to ask.

774
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,240
Well, I wanted to ask if I can get a question.

775
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:38,240
I just want to boil it down a little bit.

776
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:42,240
So is it your hypothesis that the water was turned off intentionally?

777
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:46,240
No, not necessarily.

778
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:57,240
When and I don't have a hypothesis to start with, we're investigating.

779
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:05,240
I think the way I do my work in the in forensic engineering.

780
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:11,240
I start I look at the facts and start policing them together and start finding a route.

781
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:16,240
Through the material that is valid.

782
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,240
The material that we can.

783
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:25,240
That are confirmed by I witness and whatever else.

784
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:31,240
Without an initial hypothesis, I think that was one of the gross errors that missed me.

785
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:34,240
They started out with I often say.

786
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,240
They tried to prove it.

787
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,240
And that's a.

788
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:41,240
That's a big mistake.

789
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:44,240
That's not forensic engineering.

790
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,240
Well said.

791
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:52,240
Well, thank you so much guys for all of your work and everybody that's on here tonight.

792
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:56,240
It's just an excellent old information that we are getting.

793
01:46:56,240 --> 01:47:00,240
So we are going to move on and.

794
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:05,240
Everybody here to a new segment of the evening.

795
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:08,240
We have gone over the facts with you.

796
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:12,240
We have gone over all the science, which again, we have been doing for a number of years.

797
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,240
We've got so many official stories silver bullets out there.

798
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:19,240
I mean, the cases have been proven a long time ago in my book.

799
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:22,240
At least justifying a new investigation.

800
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:26,240
And I know a lot of the dihards are on tonight watching these presentations.

801
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:28,240
Pick up new information.

802
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:35,240
I'm one of those dihards and I'm picking up new things here this evening that we're going to be looking at a little bit more in depth probably.

803
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:38,240
I'm an 11 free fall in the coming year.

804
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,240
But we got to reach.

805
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:41,240
Everybody out there.

806
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,240
We got to reach the wall of our shoppers.

807
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:48,240
We got to reach the people who are not watching this presentation tonight.

808
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,240
So please share this after it is over.

809
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:58,240
But we do it on our end through films documentary films and we're always reaching new people in that way.

810
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:03,240
Some people flip them through Amazon or Netflix and those places or even just on YouTube.

811
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,240
Looking for films to watch.

812
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:06,240
They'll say, hey, this is interesting.

813
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:12,240
It's about 9-11 and suddenly we have a new person in the movement as a result of that.

814
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:16,240
So practically every year we are putting out new films last year.

815
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:17,240
We had the unspeakable.

816
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:20,240
We previewed that around the anniversary this year.

817
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:24,240
The film is 30 seconds of silence.

818
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,240
And the film is still being put together edited.

819
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,240
So that will be coming out very soon.

820
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:34,240
But we wanted to give you guys a sneak peek tonight.

821
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:35,240
So that is what we're going to be doing.

822
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:39,240
We're going to be playing a series of three clips from this film.

823
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:43,240
I'm going to withhold my opinion on it until it's over.

824
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:45,240
But we're going to be playing those three clips.

825
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,240
And then after that we're going to be coming back.

826
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:56,240
And we're going to have a Q&A session with the filmmaker Dylan Avery and John Cole who you're going to see is in the film.

827
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,240
Very prominent in it.

828
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:04,240
And don't forget we're going to be announcing a new special project at the end of the night.

829
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:07,240
We're going to hold you into suspense to find out what that is.

830
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,240
But it's going to be very exciting.

831
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:10,240
I already know what it is.

832
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:14,240
But I know everybody out there in the 9-11 truth movement is going to be very unique.

833
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:16,240
So stick around for that.

834
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:22,240
And what I'm going to do when I remove myself from the stream, the next thing you're going to see are the clips from the film.

835
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:26,240
Again, the film is 30 seconds of silence.

836
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,240
It's from Dylan Avery.

837
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:51,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

838
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:54,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

839
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:55,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

840
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:56,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

841
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

842
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

843
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

844
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

845
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:07,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

846
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:08,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

847
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

848
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:12,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

849
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:13,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

850
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:14,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

851
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:15,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

852
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:16,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

853
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:18,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

854
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:20,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

855
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:21,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

856
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:22,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

857
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:23,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

858
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:24,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

859
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:25,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

860
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:26,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

861
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:27,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

862
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:28,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

863
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:29,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

864
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:30,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

865
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:31,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

866
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:32,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

867
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:33,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

868
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:33,240

869
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:34,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

870
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:35,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

871
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:59,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

872
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:01,240
Without constant upkeep, first of all,

873
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,240
we have to constantly maintain a system

874
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:06,240
in order to keep nature from taking it over.

875
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:11,240
So there and you need to paint the steel,

876
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:14,240
you need to do a whole bunch of maintenance on buildings.

877
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:17,240
But nature also tells a story.

878
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:22,240
Nature is only going to do what it's going to do

879
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:26,240
and it's going to be repeatable for every particular setup.

880
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,240
And it'll do it every single time.

881
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:31,240
Even though you may want it to do something else.

882
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:34,240
That's why they're called laws.

883
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:37,240
We have yet to be able to defy those laws.

884
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:38,240
No matter how you feel,

885
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:40,240
if your feelings are heard over it,

886
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:42,240
I'm sorry it's secondary.

887
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:45,240
Because the laws of physics are the laws.

888
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:47,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

889
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:49,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

890
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:51,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

891
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:52,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

892
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

893
01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:56,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

894
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:58,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

895
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:00,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

896
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:02,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

897
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:04,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

898
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:06,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

899
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

900
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:10,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

901
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:12,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

902
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

903
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:16,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

904
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:18,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

905
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:20,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

906
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

907
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

908
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:26,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

909
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:28,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

910
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:30,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

911
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:32,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

912
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:34,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

913
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:36,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

914
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

915
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

916
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:42,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

917
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:44,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

918
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:46,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

919
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:48,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

920
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:52,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

921
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:54,240
Without constant upkeep, first of all,

922
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:58,240
we have to constantly maintain a system in order to keep nature from taking it over.

923
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:00,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

924
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

925
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:04,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

926
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:06,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

927
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:08,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

928
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:10,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

929
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

930
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:14,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

931
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,240
The film is from Dylan Avery.

932
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:24,240
Nature is only going to do what it's going to do and it's going to be repeatable for every particular setup.

933
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:28,240
And it'll do it every single time even though you may want it to do something else.

934
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:30,240
That's why they're called laws.

935
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:32,240
We have yet to be able to defy those laws.

936
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:44,240
No matter how you feel, if your feelings are heard over it, I'm sorry, it's secondary.

937
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:48,240
Because the laws of physics are the laws.

938
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:18,240
John Cole or John, I think Cole, some people know me by.

939
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:22,240
I've been doing civil engineering since 1979.

940
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,240
And I got registered in 1983.

941
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:28,240
So from 1983 to 2022, this is today.

942
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:32,240
So what's it almost 40 years close to it?

943
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:34,240
Yeah, long time.

944
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:38,240
What's it played of?

945
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:42,240
He says he that is most hated is he tells the truth.

946
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:48,240
It's resisted automatically because you're going against what everybody knows.

947
01:54:54,240 --> 01:55:02,240
Prior to 9-11, no steel framed building had ever fallen globally like those three buildings did on 9-11.

948
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:11,240
Firefighters routinely rush into steel buildings to help save the people who are put up the fire,

949
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:17,240
because they knew steel buildings do not globally collapse, do it fire.

950
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:31,240
And yet, on 9-11, we're told that three of them came down from office fires alone in the same day.

951
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:47,240
So next started looking at this, I can almost be a fly on the wall.

952
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:50,240
I can almost imagine those engineers sitting around a table.

953
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:55,240
I can imagine saying, I don't really want to look at that thing because when you see that thing,

954
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:57,240
it's being blown up and brought down.

955
01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:59,240
And how are we going to justify that?

956
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:03,240
And I can almost imagine the response being told by their higher ups that look at guys don't even worry about it.

957
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:05,240
We got to weigh around this.

958
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:09,240
We're not going to talk about what happened when it started going down.

959
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:11,240
So you don't have to worry about it.

960
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:13,240
You don't have to put your license on the line.

961
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:15,240
We're only going to talk about it.

962
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:17,240
And we're going to talk about it.

963
01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:19,240
And we're going to talk about it.

964
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,240
And we're going to talk about it.

965
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,240
And we're going to talk about it.

966
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:25,240
And we're going to talk about it.

967
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,240
And we're going to talk about it.

968
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:29,240
And we're going to talk about it.

969
01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:31,240
And we're going to talk about it.

970
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:33,240
And we're going to talk about it.

971
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:35,240
And we're going to talk about it.

972
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:37,240
And we're going to talk about it.

973
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:39,240
And we're going to talk about it.

974
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,240
And we're going to talk about it.

975
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:43,240
And we're going to talk about it.

976
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:45,240
And we're going to talk about it.

977
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:47,240
And we're going to talk about it.

978
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:49,240
And we're going to talk about it.

979
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:51,240
And we're going to talk about it.

980
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,240
And we're going to talk about it.

981
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:57,240
The third thing we're going to do is we're not going to make you take any responsibility.

982
01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,240
You're not going to have to sign and seal it.

983
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,240
You know, I'm an engineer.

984
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:05,240
I've signed and sealed hundreds if not thousands of documents over the years.

985
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:07,240
It's a way to put your own responsibility on something.

986
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:10,240
And it doesn't necessarily mean it's 100% correct.

987
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:15,240
But it does have a responsibility as far as how that report was put together under whose direction.

988
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:19,240
But don't worry about this because nobody's going to sign a seal this.

989
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,240
Nobody's taking responsibility.

990
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:27,240
And the last thing we're going to do is all this work that we're going to do.

991
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,240
It's not going to have any value.

992
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:30,240
Why?

993
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:32,240
We're going to put a disclaimer right in the front.

994
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,240
And that disclaimer.

995
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:40,240
No part of any report resulting from a nIST investigation into the structural failure or from

996
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:47,240
Investigation under the National Construction Safety Team Act may be used in any suit or any action for damages

997
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:50,240
arising out of any matter mentioned in such report.

998
01:57:50,240 --> 01:57:52,240
So we're out.

999
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:54,240
We have no liability.

1000
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:57,240
You engineers don't have to worry about sign and seal and anything.

1001
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:59,240
Nobody's going to take responsibility.

1002
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,240
And we're not going to look at the key evidence.

1003
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:02,240
So we're all good.

1004
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:04,240
We're going to let the media tell the story.

1005
01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:07,240
We're going to bring you up to that point of global collapse.

1006
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:10,240
And then we're out.

1007
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:12,240
Again, I don't know if that's what happened.

1008
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:15,240
But that's the end result of what happened.

1009
01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:32,240
Great lead to cap it off there with that final clip.

1010
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,240
I think John summarizes it best.

1011
01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:40,240
The entire situation, the entire cover up and the just the lack of liability from our government institutions

1012
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:44,240
to account for the greatest mass murder in our country's history.

1013
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:46,240
So we're going to be talking about that film.

1014
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:51,240
You just watched yet to be released, but they are working on it right now.

1015
01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:53,240
It's going to be coming out soon.

1016
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:56,240
And we're going to be joined by two people who are involved with it.

1017
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:59,240
Of course, the first one is Dylan Avery.

1018
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:04,240
Dylan is a producer and director known for Olson asteroid black and blue seven.

1019
01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:05,240
The unspeakable.

1020
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:07,240
A lot of other movies as well.

1021
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:13,240
And a little film called loose change, which opened the eyes of people all around the world.

1022
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:16,240
To the problems with the 911 official story.

1023
01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:23,240
Kind of got the ball rolling for much of this movement and it was responsible for a lot of people being here tonight.

1024
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:26,240
And being part of this important cause.

1025
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:28,240
He's now editing the film.

1026
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:33,240
You just watched it's called 30 seconds of silence, which of course is being produced by A.E. 911.

1027
01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:34,240
Truth.

1028
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:36,240
Let's go ahead and get Dylan in there.

1029
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:38,240
And where's John?

1030
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:39,240
There is the other is.

1031
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:43,240
So he's going to be joined by John Cole, who we heard from earlier tonight.

1032
01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:47,240
And who is you just saw appears prominently in the film.

1033
01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:52,240
But guys, thank you so much for coming on to our anniversary event this evening.

1034
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:54,240
Thank you, Eddie.

1035
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:55,240
Can you hear me?

1036
01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:57,240
Okay.

1037
01:59:57,240 --> 01:59:59,240
I hear you just fine.

1038
01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:01,240
John, down to the desk.

1039
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:02,240
Yep.

1040
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:03,240
Thank you.

1041
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:04,240
Great.

1042
02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:06,240
All right, very good, very good.

1043
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:08,240
We've been doing pretty good tonight.

1044
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:12,240
We had a little issue with the clip there, but that wasn't as big a deal.

1045
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:13,240
You know, we were all.

1046
02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:18,240
Can we give it a little bit of context on those clips?

1047
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:19,240
Absolutely.

1048
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:24,240
Well, actually, what I wanted to say is one of these was considered a teaser.

1049
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,240
And I want to say that I am thoroughly teased.

1050
02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:31,240
The whole point is to intrigue people and want them to know what it's supposed to be about.

1051
02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:37,240
So please, in the context, however you want to, go ahead and give us a summary of what

1052
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:42,240
this film you're bringing to us is going to be bang.

1053
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:47,240
Yeah, as you said, I mean, that first little clip was a little teaser.

1054
02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:53,240
We were supposed to have it out a little bit earlier, but I imagine we'll be releasing that publicly soon.

1055
02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:58,240
And then the clip after that is actually kind of the first couple minutes of the movie.

1056
02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:03,240
After that, it's supposed to go into introducing actually Tony into the movie, Tony's Amboi,

1057
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:06,240
who you saw briefly in the teaser.

1058
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:09,240
There's a lot of structural things to kind of figure out.

1059
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:16,240
And then after that clip that you saw of John, so eloquently describing the being the hypothetical

1060
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:19,240
of fly on the wall at the walls of NIST.

1061
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:21,240
So that's a little clip from later on in the movie.

1062
02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:25,240
And I just wanted to get a little bit something else for you guys to see.

1063
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:33,240
But yeah, it's my third official project with AE and yeah, you know,

1064
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:38,240
we keep finding new ways to kind of, I don't want to say revisit the same material,

1065
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:44,240
but you know, we always find new ways of approaching it and new places to go and new people to talk to.

1066
02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:47,240
John has been a lovely surprise.

1067
02:01:47,240 --> 02:01:50,240
So yeah, I wish I had more to say.

1068
02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:53,240
I personally don't have much to say.

1069
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:55,240
Well, you see a lot through your art.

1070
02:01:55,240 --> 02:02:00,240
And we're going to get into some of the aspects of it because it personally fascinates me.

1071
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:08,240
I've never seen a case in history where you have to just make it such an overwhelming case for something that is absolutely obvious.

1072
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:12,240
And we're always coming up with new information is Chen brought it here tonight.

1073
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:17,240
Talking about the the top block and the spire and all of his research.

1074
02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:21,240
So we just keep on having to find new angles, new ways to get this information.

1075
02:02:21,240 --> 02:02:25,240
Now that's why these films are so important because that's what reaches the people as I was saying earlier,

1076
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:31,240
who you know aren't as initiated to this information as the audience is this evening.

1077
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:34,240
John, I'm just going to ask you a very simple question.

1078
02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:42,240
I know it's strange for anyone to be interviewed and then see yourself in such a cinematic way with mood music and all that.

1079
02:02:42,240 --> 02:02:47,240
So I'm just going to ask you for your very first reaction to those clips, especially the ones with you in it.

1080
02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:51,240
Yeah, that was the first time I saw Andy.

1081
02:02:52,240 --> 02:03:02,240
I can tell you, you know, I put together some videos over the years, sort of 10 years ago and mine looked like a five year old did it compared to Dylan's ability there.

1082
02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:05,240
I thought it was awesome to be honest with you.

1083
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:10,240
Miners funky and unbelievable how nice you put that together.

1084
02:03:10,240 --> 02:03:12,240
So I'm looking forward to it.

1085
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:14,240
I mean, it was awesome.

1086
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:15,240
More I could say.

1087
02:03:16,240 --> 02:03:20,240
That's also the skills of Ryan the DP, you know, I just kind of cut it together.

1088
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:21,240
Thank you.

1089
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:22,240
Appreciate it.

1090
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:23,240
That was awesome.

1091
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:24,240
Thank you.

1092
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:29,240
I'm glad John said that because I mean, this happens synergistically on free fall of the time.

1093
02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:36,240
Some people say something that perfectly leads into the next question, but I remember and I've been around since 2006 when I

1094
02:03:36,240 --> 02:03:53,240
was a job first opt seeing this information and I was happy to have those very cheaply produced videos from so many people who just kind of put things together either with their web cams or whatever early kind of video camera that they had that they could hook up to their computer.

1095
02:03:53,240 --> 02:04:05,240
Because it was all about the information and you'll notice that a lot of films that the 911 truth movement sort of knows by heart at this point were very information oriented very very

1096
02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:24,240
very bare bones and we owe it a dead a gratitude to all the people who made those films like films like ours 911 explosive evidence experts speak out where it's just like okay here's this person here's what they have to say about it in that person and a lot of them were just like presentations that people would put on as well.

1097
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:33,240
But Dylan from what I have seen and I don't work with you on the films, but I know what goes on it's like you're leading the way and what I call the second generation of the people that are working on the film.

1098
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:52,240
The second generation of 911 truth films, they're more artistic, more cinematic. I see a lot of symbolism and stuff. I just want to know if you personally what has led you into this kind of direction with this information.

1099
02:04:52,240 --> 02:05:00,240
Well, you know, and that's actually something that we can probably talk more about in this next little segment once we bring on Kelly and we talk about our little surprise that we have brewing.

1100
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:13,240
I don't know a lot has changed with me both personally and professionally since loose change. I mean like I've made actual films. I've directed narrative feature films now. So like I have done a lot of things that I didn't do before.

1101
02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:29,240
So, and that is kind of the nice thing about it is that by doing these project projects for A.e. like I'm able to hire like my DP Ryan from Los Angeles and I'm able to hire a soundman and I'm able to rent out this really cool band and building in

1102
02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:46,240
Philly and do it officially and let a camera crew and some talent loose in it and just kind of have some fun but still try to find a way to tie it together and tell a story with it. So yeah, it's just kind of where I'm at and I mean it's funny.

1103
02:05:46,240 --> 02:06:01,240
Like you say that I'm like I'm leading the second generation of 911 truth films. It was just like she's man like I mean I already kind of had my say with the first generation. I don't need to lead the second generation too, but I mean like it's just kind of where I'm at now really.

1104
02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:15,240
It's like you know I can't just make a documentary now by like just cutting together a bunch of like archival footage, you know like I need to get out and you shoot something and you do interviews and I need to try to find ways to like get cool footage and you know.

1105
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:36,240
Like repeat well, you know I hate to repeat same things again because again there are like new things and new discussions and new angles on it all being discussed and brought up all the time, but you know it's like trying to find new ways of getting both the old audiences and potential new audiences interested at the same time.

1106
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:51,240
That is important and everybody evolves to in whatever their craft is and it's sort of like painters, you know you look at somebody like Francisco de Goya and you would have different periods and some stuff would be kind of basic.

1107
02:06:52,240 --> 02:07:03,240
Just basic nature and all that and some of them are really horrific when he was going through a particularly difficult time and I love to see that and this would I love about the arts as you get an expression of the person.

1108
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:09,240
I think that's the reason why I'm talking about the things that I'm talking about.

1109
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:43,240
I think I actually posted it and what it did is it showed this mall on this escalator and it's just overgrown with nature, you know with trees and shrubs and weeds.

1110
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:53,240
It looks like people abandoned this mall a long time ago and the caption under it says in the end nature always wins and that is absolutely true.

1111
02:07:53,240 --> 02:08:10,240
I mean even if mankind manages to blow up the planet you still have the universe to contend with the nature mankind will never overcome that those are my thoughts on that I think the audience is more interested in yours so can you elaborate on those thoughts that you expressed in those clips.

1112
02:08:11,240 --> 02:08:20,240
Absolutely yeah you know one of the things that I focused on I mean there's so many so many pioneers and great in this movement you know Stephen Jones.

1113
02:08:21,240 --> 02:08:24,240
David Ray Griff and Kevin Ryan.

1114
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:37,240
David Chandler all those guys are some of the pioneers and some of the great Gordon Ross who's in the unsung hero in my mind and in the beginning did a fantastic video back in 2006 or something like that.

1115
02:08:37,240 --> 02:08:55,240
And so they did a lot of mathematical proofs on this just like nests and bazan is trying to do mathematical proof so when I started looking at this thing I wanted to take a little bit of a different angle when I started getting into this and so in 2010 I wanted to take the experimental angle.

1116
02:08:55,240 --> 02:09:09,240
Because experiment is nature and I've got some quotes in my videos you know Richard Feynman says it doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is or or how smart you are if it disagrees with nature.

1117
02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:20,240
Then it's wrong I mean that just cuts it like we've just cuts right to the chase of things no matter how complicated with mathematical equations are if it doesn't matter match what nature said is happening.

1118
02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:28,240
I'm sorry you're out and so that's the angle I tried to take through this thing naturally I'm saying when I say nature I mean nature's laws.

1119
02:09:28,240 --> 02:09:43,240
And physical laws laws of physics that that again are proved through experiment and and so many people I think even though we're back to take and I think we have a saying.

1120
02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:49,240
The strongest arguments prove nothing so long as the conclusions are not verified by experiment.

1121
02:09:49,240 --> 02:10:02,240
So I don't know I think you know we're on a journey here and one of the giants that we have on our side you know we're small we don't have all the power that the government has and nests and we're just a bunch of little guys here but.

1122
02:10:02,240 --> 02:10:20,240
We've got this humongous giant right behind us and that giant is a laws of physics and and the laws and nature's laws so without that giant would be nothing but I mean we're on the winning side in a long run we're going to be proved right.

1123
02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:35,240
Yeah you know I always say that after 9.11 physics and common sense became a conspiracy theory I mean any time you question something if you smell gas and want to call the gas company to make sure you know a gas leak your conspiracy theorists now.

1124
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:50,240
What I love about eight e911 truth in particular out of all the different 911 truth groups is our focus on the science not only because it's just the most common sense but it's also the hardest to argue with and it's the easiest to defend.

1125
02:10:50,240 --> 02:11:04,240
When you are talking to the general public when you're talking to media whoever and this advice to the audience out there going with our information is the easiest route to go because they really can't argue with it typically they will scoff.

1126
02:11:04,240 --> 02:11:15,240
They will try to talk in circles around you or you see you as Ted was talking about earlier with nest they just throw up their hands and try to do everything that they can to.

1127
02:11:15,240 --> 02:11:38,240
I'm going to turn back to you because again I am interested in the artistic aspect of this one of the things that stood out to me in one of the clips and I can't remember the order they were in and all of that.

1128
02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:51,240
I know with film and stuff show up somewhere in some of its some of the stories behind it are circumstantial like hey that's pretty cool.

1129
02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:59,240
Talk about overall your use of symbolism with imagery and how are you utilizing that in your storytelling in this film.

1130
02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:17,240
I was going back through some of Ryan's shots like that earlier today and it turned out that he had gotten the shot of that butterfly on the ground and then he actually moved it up onto the window sill.

1131
02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:31,240
I was watching that shot and it was just like was that butterfly actually there did Ryan put it there and then going through footage today I got my answer he did in fact stage that.

1132
02:12:31,240 --> 02:12:41,240
There's the shot of the butterfly and you know either I believe right before or after it has a shot of the leaves up in the window and it's kind of like kind of like a life-desting and.

1133
02:12:41,240 --> 02:12:52,240
I don't know I've been kind of going through a lot of both of those things myself I don't know not to go off into like a weird thing on this show but like.

1134
02:12:52,240 --> 02:13:04,240
I don't know about other people but like I myself and a lot of the people that I know have been having a very intense summer really emotional kind of roller coaster with a lot of highs and a lot of lows like.

1135
02:13:04,240 --> 02:13:13,240
I've been a lot of life and a lot of death and a lot of marriages and a lot of breakups and just just a lot it's really just been kind of an intense summer.

1136
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:19,240
And so maybe that's kind of coming through when that teaser that I made to or I'm just like I'm really kind of.

1137
02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:27,240
Feeling a lot of those emotions but I mean I'm also not I'm not trying to make things selfishly too you know but like I do feel that.

1138
02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:37,240
It does kind of fit within the scene and also again like John tied it together beautifully because I asked him to give me like a nice little nice little speech about nature and to kind of tie together with a theme of the movie.

1139
02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:41,240
I think if you could at the end and of course he did so beautifully and one take so it was great.

1140
02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:45,240
But um yeah I don't know.

1141
02:13:45,240 --> 02:13:58,240
I guess I kind of somewhat lost my train of thought on that but like I said I've been kind of dealing with a lot personally lately both good and bad and so I guess I'm kind of.

1142
02:13:58,240 --> 02:14:19,240
Maybe somewhat using some of this is an outlet but you know again I'm also trying to be true to the message and true to what we're making and you know also like I said still trying to kind of move the presentation forward and you know try to do something different and at the very least when people see it you know they know that it makes an impression on them and it stands out if nothing else I suppose.

1143
02:14:19,240 --> 02:14:34,240
Well this is what I love about these creative works because okay we have the subject matter it's the 911 controlled demolition evidence we we beat the drum on this all the time but when you pick somebody to kind of portray it in a way and I've seen the comics I've seen this with films.

1144
02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:43,240
And it's kind of like going through the filter of them not on the information but on their worldview how they see the world.

1145
02:14:43,240 --> 02:14:58,240
That's why I love the early silent films from from the Europe and Germany and all those things because they really utilize that a lot and I feel like we've lost that to a certain extent except with the like David Lynch films and all that.

1146
02:14:58,240 --> 02:15:16,240
John and one of the segments here I see that you are walking up to what appears to be a 911 memorial piece crafted from some of the steel that was there from ground zero described what that was like for you especially with a camera following you.

1147
02:15:16,240 --> 02:15:26,240
Yeah so in Philadelphia like a lot of cities there is a memorial that's down by the river and I'm going to need to bridge down by the river.

1148
02:15:27,240 --> 02:15:38,240
And it's an actual piece of the world traits center tower you can see those sheer studs that were well known on the top of it it's actually set up piece of concrete a little bit angle.

1149
02:15:38,240 --> 02:15:50,240
And around the four sides of that is basically to circle with four quadrants there's a name of somebody who lived in Philadelphia that died in most hours.

1150
02:15:50,240 --> 02:16:06,240
And so you know like I said a lot of times you have to set aside the things that you know Mr. Campbell's going through right now you have to set aside all those people who were literally blown up exploded in the pieces.

1151
02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:14,240
And so it's those moments I set those aside when I try to do my science stuff is you have to.

1152
02:16:14,240 --> 02:16:26,240
If those moments when I started walking up to that steel that really brings it back to full circle full loop to like wow this is what this is all about these people perish who know to be even have the body back on this.

1153
02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:42,240
So that memorial kind of kind of ties things all back to me back to the back of the human aspect of this thing and away from the scientific aspect of it so it's a nice it's a nice closure if you will when I when I started walking up to that memorial.

1154
02:16:42,240 --> 02:17:00,240
Yeah, it's really difficult sometimes to separate the human aspect from the scientific it becomes easier and I can't speak for you but I mean I comes easier as you kind of just do this every day but then it becomes like you you look at the data and and.

1155
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:28,240
And you have to be reminded sometimes as to you know why this is so important and we do that every year of course because it becomes easy to just look at it as numbers and graphs and things like that but then you are faced with something like a memorial or picture of somebody that died on that day and I mean this is what I loved about the unspeakable to is because it actually went into Bobby McElvane's bedroom here his story Bobby McElvane of course killed as he was entering the north tower that morning.

1156
02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:57,240
And his father Bob is going through the bedroom and I just think about all of the books that weren't written because of you know because of 911 because Bobby wanted to be a writer on that day and there's so many stories just like that in those towers that we lost people all these lives lived just suddenly wiped out and of course they deserve justice they deserve to have the reasons for their deaths told to the world that's why we continue to do this but.

1157
02:17:58,240 --> 02:18:06,240
And so we're science meets the human ass of the human element of this entire thing so again that's why I'm really excited about seeing this entire.

1158
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:08,240
film Dylan.

1159
02:18:08,240 --> 02:18:14,240
What's the biggest takeaway went the audience the after watching this what's the thesis.

1160
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:22,240
If that's even the proper word but what do you want people feeling as they enter this and thinking about on their drives home.

1161
02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:27,240
This particular project right here that we're discussing yes.

1162
02:18:27,240 --> 02:18:37,240
Yes, I think that I believe internally like the main goal is to express that.

1163
02:18:37,240 --> 02:18:47,240
You know, despite all the outcry and despite all the insistence from both mainstream media and from popular mechanics.

1164
02:18:47,240 --> 02:18:50,240
It's really kind of.

1165
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:58,240
It's somewhat impossible for control demolition to have been debunked because they never actually went past the point of collapse initiation.

1166
02:18:58,240 --> 02:18:59,240
So.

1167
02:18:59,240 --> 02:19:13,240
Miss never actually explained how the towers came down so it's kind of impossible for any kind of hypothesis about how the towers came down to be proven or disproven because.

1168
02:19:13,240 --> 02:19:18,240
At least in according to nistan at least according to what the official report say because.

1169
02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:26,240
They're really is no official hypothesis about how the towers came down they just made it to collapse initiation and then kind of like.

1170
02:19:26,240 --> 02:19:30,240
Just to their hands and then that was it.

1171
02:19:30,240 --> 02:19:37,240
That's really kind of the main takeaway but you know there's going to be a lot of other things in there too.

1172
02:19:37,240 --> 02:19:44,240
I don't know I'm still working on it so we'll see what we'll see what the main takeaway is but I mean that's kind of like.

1173
02:19:44,240 --> 02:19:47,240
That's kind of the main goal.

1174
02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:55,240
Well I'll tell you what as I say to another project they stop at a collapse initiation but what happened after collapse initiation is what took so many lives.

1175
02:19:55,240 --> 02:20:02,240
Not just the people who died in the tower either but all the people who got sick from breathing in the toxic air and they started to get.

1176
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:16,240
It seems like a lot but they're they are sick as a consequence of those towers coming down not because airplanes crashed into buildings but because they actually came down turned to powder practically and mid air so for them this is just this people.

1177
02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:21,240
Not even the people in the buildings the people around the buildings too.

1178
02:20:21,240 --> 02:20:37,240
All around them yeah exactly so for that person who has to stop and take a bright few breaths just walking up the stairs this issue is just as important as for the firefighters that died that day and they deserved to know why they're sick.

1179
02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:44,240
John I've been asking a similar question to you but I know you're not the filmmaker you're an engineer you focus on the science.

1180
02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:48,240
Let's say other engineers decide to tune into this film they watch.

1181
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:58,240
What is the I mean I get that the whole 911 control demolition issue is just so vast and we're constantly getting new information new evidence.

1182
02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:00,240
It's hard to cover it in just a half hour.

1183
02:21:00,240 --> 02:21:13,240
I've tried to do that on radio shows and it's really tough but what's the biggest thing that you want them taking away from this and thinking about is they go on their afternoon drive after watching this.

1184
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:26,240
Just to piggyback on I'm Dylan I'm really with it. I think what I think is the theme of the whole thing and even in that is that the largest structural failure in world history.

1185
02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:39,240
And the event that killed 2800 people just in the towers and hundreds of thousands after after years and years of study the top experts in the world.

1186
02:21:39,240 --> 02:21:42,240
Can't figure out how they came down.

1187
02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:51,240
I mean like like Dylan said I mean it's how can you debunk something when there's nothing to debunk because they they couldn't figure it out.

1188
02:21:51,240 --> 02:21:58,240
And we have all these private people trying to figure it out throwing all these hypotheses out none of which of course magic sphere and hunter nature.

1189
02:21:58,240 --> 02:22:07,240
But again I'm kind of recap on what Dylan said is that they never told us the media told us so it's a pretty big embarrassment.

1190
02:22:07,240 --> 02:22:17,240
I think I'm an entire entire world scientific system and then everybody out there is afraid to speak up or say anything because they're worried to lose in their jobs or whatever.

1191
02:22:17,240 --> 02:22:29,240
I'm sorry silent about it but again again I'm just reiterating what Dylan said is that you're the biggest mass murder in history in US history and how.

1192
02:22:29,240 --> 02:22:38,240
And nobody nobody in an official capacity can tell us what happened with the actual collapse this is unbelievable.

1193
02:22:38,240 --> 02:22:47,240
That's right, but they have a lot of confidence in trying to assert it. I don't think it's real confidence. It's a fake kind like they read some kind of self-help book and how to snow over an entire world.

1194
02:22:47,240 --> 02:22:56,240
On a very important event and it's time to get past that again we're not going away. We're not going to stop doing this if they think they're going to ice us out and.

1195
02:22:56,240 --> 02:23:08,240
And then we're just going to pack up and leave. I have no plans to do that anytime soon and I'm sure you guys are not going to either so continue talking about this. We pick up new people all of the time.

1196
02:23:08,240 --> 02:23:23,240
And we're going to look at the contrast and one of the things that woke me up to this information wasn't even the science at first it was the way the media reacted to very reasonable people using example Steven Jones, you know, when they wouldn't let them show the building seven.

1197
02:23:23,240 --> 02:23:45,240
Coming down on TV they reacted very very hostilely just to the questions being raised by what I perceived to be very reasonable people asking these things and that kind of led me into getting into the nitty gritty and I know that's happening with people all over the world so more they just put up these barriers and.

1198
02:23:46,240 --> 02:24:00,240
You know, try to protect this official story they're really cutting their own throats in that sense because people are waking up and I have no doubt again that we are going to have an acknowledgement of this at some point the sooner the better in my opinion I think it'll be better for the for the world.

1199
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:18,240
So guys we got about three minutes left I'm not going to ask you to be laborate but I've been we I've been asking guests this on my show each week it's the 21st anniversary the 9 11 official story is old enough to buy a beer at this point.

1200
02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:29,240
We began with a video talking about why 9 11 still matters to our supporters and just a minute or so starting with Dill and tell us why 9 11 still matters to you.

1201
02:24:29,240 --> 02:24:52,240
Well, I mean we continue to live in the post 9 11 world so it continues to be relevant because it continues to affect us on a daily basis and there are now people who are in high school graduating high school entering college.

1202
02:24:52,240 --> 02:24:55,240
Potentially leaving college soon.

1203
02:24:55,240 --> 02:25:00,240
Who for them the post 9 11 world is just the world.

1204
02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:07,240
And this is actually something Andy that we'll be talking about in our next segment actually our little surprise segment but.

1205
02:25:07,240 --> 02:25:19,240
It continues to be relevant because it continues to affect us and I continue having to take my shoes off at the airport and having to be treated.

1206
02:25:19,240 --> 02:25:32,240
Very suspiciously because I don't want to go through the new East Gander and I'd rather just get a pat down and then they have to search my hands for explosives and then they get mad at me because I don't want to be searched for explosives.

1207
02:25:32,240 --> 02:25:33,240
You know.

1208
02:25:33,240 --> 02:25:47,240
And that's just our life and that's just what we put up with and that's just the post 9 11 world and for some people that's just the world and for me that's not okay and it's we're way too far gone to undo any of that stuff.

1209
02:25:47,240 --> 02:25:53,240
But I don't know that's why it still matters to me because as much now as.

1210
02:25:53,240 --> 02:25:58,240
I've now spent more of my life in the post 9 11 world than I didn't.

1211
02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:03,240
I do a long for the times when I didn't.

1212
02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:04,240
So.

1213
02:26:04,240 --> 02:26:05,240
That's it.

1214
02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:15,240
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember putting my suitcase one time getting one of those TSA cards saying we searched your bag and I had a whole bunch of beyond misinformation's in there.

1215
02:26:15,240 --> 02:26:24,240
I was going travel and there's a may eat thing and I'm like good I hope you kept one I hope you read it all and that this rifling through my belongings.

1216
02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:30,240
Produce them fruit here in in terms of outreach john same question why doesn't i live in still matter to you.

1217
02:26:30,240 --> 02:26:36,240
Yeah, well, well, it matters to me because I've been into a personal long, but I think it should matter to the average person.

1218
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:50,240
I think the I think what this is is it kind of cracks or open to events both before and since 9 11 because once you see 9 11 once you see that it changes your world view.

1219
02:26:50,240 --> 02:26:56,240
And I think we're going to need justice out of 9 11 probably not unfortunately at my personal opinion.

1220
02:26:56,240 --> 02:27:04,240
You know, or there were concern their collateral damage to a bigger operation out there, but I think when people see this when they see what happened.

1221
02:27:04,240 --> 02:27:08,240
They're going to start questioning things are going on today.

1222
02:27:08,240 --> 02:27:19,240
There's a lot of events going on today that people from all over the political spectrum are questioning and they can point to 9 11 as an example of some of the horrific things that governs.

1223
02:27:19,240 --> 02:27:28,240
Can do to their own people and if you've used 9 11 as your stepping stone you can also go back in history and you can see some other events in history.

1224
02:27:28,240 --> 02:27:33,240
That are extremely questionable as far as who is behind those events.

1225
02:27:33,240 --> 02:27:43,240
So learning about 9 11 is very important maybe not that we're going to get much justice to this point 21 years later, but to use it.

1226
02:27:43,240 --> 02:27:50,240
And again, as a stepping stone to both what happened in the past and what very well is could be happening right now and in the future.

1227
02:27:50,240 --> 02:28:01,240
So it's an important thing for I think everybody to take a look at this so they get it so they see what what governments can do to their own people.

1228
02:28:01,240 --> 02:28:12,240
Right and you make people more vigilant to I mean that that is just sort of the I don't even want to see consolation price because I think it's huge you know you wake people up to this they start distressing what they hear more and make some smarter.

1229
02:28:12,240 --> 02:28:17,240
And I have no doubt that in the end I mean this is going to be acknowledged even if the government doesn't say it.

1230
02:28:17,240 --> 02:28:29,240
It's going to be acknowledged 60 years down the road that yeah well you know some strong evidence that we were being lied to about whether the towers came down and we just got to keep on doing our work to make that happen.

1231
02:28:29,240 --> 02:28:34,240
John Dylan thank you so much for your participation in this movie for all of your work.

1232
02:28:35,240 --> 02:28:52,240
And for coming here tonight so we're going to let John relax now I know he's been on a couple of times he's going to sit back and watch the rest of the show again the film is called 30 seconds of silence when it's ready to be released.

1233
02:28:52,240 --> 02:29:04,240
We're going to be sending bulletins out of about that and that's why you got to be subscribed to our emails by the way you can do that a e 911 true if that or g because the northern times is not going to report on it for some reason I don't know why.

1234
02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:09,240
But we will tell you about it and you'll be able to purchase the film and know where to see it.

1235
02:29:10,240 --> 02:29:15,240
So we are at the very last segment of this event tonight.

1236
02:29:15,240 --> 02:29:27,240
I have been enjoying listening to this information at times getting a little angry because of how ridiculous this is that we got to keep on and bringing up new points and something that's already been proven a long time ago.

1237
02:29:27,240 --> 02:29:33,240
But this has been a very valuable just experience for me and probably people out there in the audience.

1238
02:29:34,240 --> 02:29:51,240
So I have been talking a couple of times tonight about a new exciting project the A.E. 911 truth is undertake and it's not something that we've done before so that's supposed to intrigue you to let your monster wondering well that's what the nae has been done before.

1239
02:29:51,240 --> 02:30:00,240
And we've been teasing this out all night well for this announcement we're going to be bringing on a very special guest where is she there she is.

1240
02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:20,240
We're bringing on Kelly David and Kelly is the chief operating officer here for eight e 911 truth she also serves on the board she has overseen many of the great things that have happened here at eight e over the last eight years she operates behind the scenes so we don't see a lot of her in our media.

1241
02:30:20,240 --> 02:30:29,240
That is the audience's loss there, but we here on the staff and all the people who work with her see what she does and we couldn't do this work without her.

1242
02:30:29,240 --> 02:30:43,240
I mean she's basically one of our biggest 911 truth heroes here for the staff and she's also proven to be an excellent producer having served that role for our films that just seven.

1243
02:30:43,240 --> 02:30:54,240
The unspeakable and now for the film that we just talked about 30 seconds of silence, but you know what I got a feeling that she's not done yet with that role.

1244
02:30:54,240 --> 02:31:05,240
So I'm going to sit back I'm going to give Kelly the floor Kelly what is this big, slating new project that eight years undertaking.

1245
02:31:06,240 --> 02:31:09,240
Okay well.

1246
02:31:09,240 --> 02:31:15,240
Most of you know and if you don't know you should check it out and the published a book.

1247
02:31:15,240 --> 02:31:29,240
Born on 911 graphic novel it's available on our online store and Andy worked four years on that project and I was with him all along the way and watching him mature.

1248
02:31:29,240 --> 02:31:41,240
I mean he's a brilliant writer the story is brilliant, but he also taught himself to do the graphics for it as well and the you know all along he'd send me what do you think of this what do you think of that kind of back and forth.

1249
02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:55,240
And last year well I was working on editing the book Dylan and I were traveling for a shoot and I was pointing through and I was thinking and this this would make great movie.

1250
02:31:56,240 --> 02:32:10,240
You know it's a fictional story, but this is something that I think you know would really resonate with regular people and you know then I live in truth movement has never done a narrative before we've made plenty of documentaries.

1251
02:32:10,240 --> 02:32:14,240
Eight you know of a truth has been around for 17 years now.

1252
02:32:14,240 --> 02:32:18,240
We've done everything we could to try to reach as many audiences as possible.

1253
02:32:18,240 --> 02:32:25,240
A lot of people out there who love graphic novels and the reviews we've gotten on the novel itself.

1254
02:32:25,240 --> 02:32:31,240
Everyone loves it so again if you haven't read it, please do it is excellent.

1255
02:32:31,240 --> 02:32:48,240
And I kept telling Dylan I think this would make an insane movie but he was too busy making the unspeakable and the two of us just you know really didn't have much time to talk about it and finally when Dylan had some time he read it in like a couple of hours and.

1256
02:32:48,240 --> 02:32:58,240
Less than 24 48 hours after that he immediately said this can be an insane movie this will be a great narrative.

1257
02:32:58,240 --> 02:33:07,240
Let me work on this on the script for it and in like 48 hours he had already sent me like a first draft of it and I read it and.

1258
02:33:07,240 --> 02:33:30,240
And that's one yes yes I read that and it blew me away because it just took the book till like the next level like imagine this movie so what we really want to do is turn this novel into an narrative and a email and truth has never done anything like this before so it's new it's exciting it's not going to be easy to do.

1259
02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:45,240
Because we're going to have to cast people and you know it's very different than what I'm used to but Dylan has a lot of experience with this and that is our next project if we are able to raise enough money for it.

1260
02:33:45,240 --> 02:33:51,240
So that's the exciting announcement don't you have anything to weigh in on.

1261
02:33:51,240 --> 02:33:54,240
Yeah I mean I guess.

1262
02:33:54,240 --> 02:34:03,240
I don't want to discuss the strategy too much but I mean basically anyone who's familiar with the graphic novel you know that most of it takes place.

1263
02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:10,240
Starting on basically the 18th anniversary of 911 and kind of carries through from there and there's a little bit of a time jump and then there's some scenes.

1264
02:34:10,240 --> 02:34:18,240
I just did the end of take place during the winter and so I believe the plan with this initial.

1265
02:34:18,240 --> 02:34:21,240
Hope for fundraising is that we raise enough to.

1266
02:34:21,240 --> 02:34:24,240
Shoot some footage over this coming winter.

1267
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:31,240
One of the greatest things about the graphic novel is like once I read it and once I was talking to Kelly about it I was like well I mean a lot of this takes place in upstate New York.

1268
02:34:31,240 --> 02:34:39,240
I mean there's literally a panel in the graphic novel where they drive by the at sego county sign and I live in at sego county.

1269
02:34:39,240 --> 02:34:42,240
So it's just a.

1270
02:34:42,240 --> 02:34:47,240
It just seemed meant to be and I mean I feel like we've kind of.

1271
02:34:47,240 --> 02:34:52,240
Consistently raised the bar with the productions that we've done together.

1272
02:34:52,240 --> 02:34:59,240
And I don't know a narrative if we can pull it off feels like the next logical step.

1273
02:34:59,240 --> 02:35:03,240
Things like this have been kind of attempted in the past.

1274
02:35:03,240 --> 02:35:11,240
There's like like who killed John O'Neill I remember that one from like 2004 or five something like that.

1275
02:35:11,240 --> 02:35:21,240
There's been a couple there there's oh there was one called the new day in 2009 I'm actually in that one playing myself that was interesting.

1276
02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:27,240
But definitely nothing on this scale like absolutely nothing on this scale with the.

1277
02:35:27,240 --> 02:35:33,240
Again anyone who's read the graphic novel I don't know the spoil it so if you haven't read it you should.

1278
02:35:33,240 --> 02:35:39,240
And so that's our hope again I don't want to speak too much about strategy because it's not really my department.

1279
02:35:39,240 --> 02:35:44,240
All I can say is that for the last couple years of no one's familiar we've been kind of building a.

1280
02:35:44,240 --> 02:35:50,240
A little bit of a narrative film empire in upstate New York back in our hometown.

1281
02:35:50,240 --> 02:35:58,240
And last two years we've made three feature films I directed my first narrative feature film in August 2020.

1282
02:35:58,240 --> 02:36:06,240
Our film that we did last summer just came out bringing back to has you know Gary Daniels Daniel Baldwin in it we just wrapped in movie here in May.

1283
02:36:06,240 --> 02:36:14,240
We're not only making feature films here but we're making them I don't want to say for cheap because that makes them sound bad.

1284
02:36:14,240 --> 02:36:19,240
But we can take a little bit of money and we can make it go a long way so.

1285
02:36:19,240 --> 02:36:23,240
However much the supporters want to support this.

1286
02:36:23,240 --> 02:36:29,240
You will definitely see the money on the screen because we are very good at making movies and I'm state New York and.

1287
02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:42,240
Having the money showing on the screen and in surprising ways so that's that's all I can say I don't know again I don't know how much I'm allowed to say about this but I am very excited about the idea because I've.

1288
02:36:42,240 --> 02:37:12,240
I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited about it for a few years and I've been very excited

1289
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of narrative film to reach people. The general public we've got a great audience tonight that is very interested in all of the science and everything that's being presented here and digging down right into the nitty gritty but the general public is out there watching the Avengers getting a tear in their eye when Black Panther walks through the portal and things like that. I know this because I want to go.

1290
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The Avengers were the most of the movies are pretty good but we can't have a discussion on that later but most of the people that's what they're into and that's where they're getting their information and as you see the propaganda being worked into narrative features like films 24 was famous for this and I've never actually watched 24 but I heard a lot about it when it was on how it worked in the war on terror narrative into their

1291
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their shows and really kind of helped to push the agenda that that was being kind of pushed on us. You know this is where we need to be. We need to be on every single front not just on the science not just pursuing

1292
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these professional organizations and nests and getting our information out there but we got to repackage all of the evidence for new audiences and make it interesting to them to the people who may not

1293
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find this interesting natural. I know I got this because I did not. Yeah I did not want to have warriors hanging from my ear so I bought these wireless earbuds and now I deal with them.

1294
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I want to have my huge headphones on during the show so I was like let me use my radians and I'm severely regretting this decision so.

1295
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Sorry, carry on. Well because I'm a very animated speaker and I'm like you know shaking my head and stuff and I didn't really as how animated I wasn't.

1296
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I'm like stay still so they don't fall out.

1297
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But no that's where people are and that's you know we incorporated the controlled demolition evidence into the graphic novel made it part of the story.

1298
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I had cameo for certain prominent people in the movement. I did that by design working that into the story because we want to I don't want to see trick that's not the right word but I want to I want to have people get the evidence while also being entertained so that is where we need to be.

1299
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With this we had to be on every single front so I am very excited about that.

1300
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You know Kelly I guess it is for a conclusion to this tonight just outline what some of the challenges are going to be you may have touched on that a little bit already.

1301
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But just to re emphasize how our supporters can help out.

1302
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Probably the biggest challenge will be the funding for it so if our supporters can donate towards this project that would be a huge help.

1303
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The only other challenge I can see is that this will be my first time working on a narrative but.

1304
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I worked with Dylan long enough and I know a lot of what he does when he's working on narrative so I kind of have a little bit of knowledge but no no experience.

1305
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I think that's about it.

1306
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There you go and you know when you finish the act one I remember I read it and then I got mad that it just ended suddenly I wanted more of it at that time but it's really good and it's very similar to the book of course.

1307
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I know movie is exactly the same as the original source material but you know in terms of opening scenes and all that but it's the same story as far as I know it and we're going to be learning more as it develops but the book is my book it's born on 911 I got my copy of right here.

1308
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If you want to get a sneak preview what's going to be in this movie we have the book at the a e 911 truth dot org store find it right on there and order it will ship it right to you guys thank you so much again for all of the work you're doing I know what you do Kelly.

1309
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I see it every day in Dylan you given us these amazing films and these amazing new opportunities for the 911 truth movement I know your message is really resonating and getting out there so thank you guys both.

1310
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Thank you Andy.

1311
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No problem I think.

1312
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All right so folks we are at the end that is the big exciting announcement of course there will be more information on the narrative film.

1313
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As time unravels here and we have more information so yeah if you haven't subscribed to our emails I said this before I'm going to be a broken record subscribe again.

1314
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A.E. 911 truth dot org and learn all the news about our developments or projects outreach everything that we do I know how hard these people work it's like night and day because the work itself is so important.

1315
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And I want to thank everybody here in the 911 truth movement you know it's very difficult to include an event like this because it's just so much that's being presented we start with the scientific information I mean new stuff that I learned tonight that I didn't even see these presentations in the Mads scrambled to put on this event.

1316
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And then we get into the film a lot of the clips I hadn't seen yet to know just this big announcement it's hard to know how to wrap up all those different things but I'll just say this.

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For me the new year starts on September 12 it's a personal thing it's you know I know that the new year starts on January 1st that's what the the role is that's what the count the calendars are oriented but for me in my mind a new year starts on September 12.

1318
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Because of so much of my work focuses on September 11 and the light happens around the anniversary and I know it's like that for a lot of people who are watching this as well.

1319
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So I'm going to say let's talk about it like it is the new year let's go into the new year with a brand new energy and excitement for 911 activism let's get this message out there and let's make this the year that we really make some major strides and get our message out into the mainstream.

1320
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You can see we're doing our best and we're doing we're going down every single avenue that we can.

1321
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To put this out in the mainstream but we are going to need your help and it's only because of the help of our supporters that we are we can continue to do what we do here so.

1322
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Thank you for watching for bidon truth I'm Andy still and we'll see you next week.

1323
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Bye bye.