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The virus is roaring back into the headlines
tonight, an outbreak somehow traced to

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who had probably caught measles abroad,
visited Disneyland, and may have sneezed.

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Measles on the march in America.

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There are already more cases this year than
there were in the United States.

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The number tripled to 644 measles cases
reported in 27 states.

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And I mean, is this all basically because of
the anti-vaccination movement because parents

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aren't vaccinating their kids?

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Yeah, you know, I think so.

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A bill that would ban exemptions from
childhood vaccines is advancing through th...

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Legislature.

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We are offering legislation that will abolish
the personal belief exemption.

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I think you're starting to see why it is that
mandates are so important.

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from a British study linking vaccines to
autism.

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We still continue to hear that vaccine caused
autism, even though that's been debunked.

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Repeatedly and thoroughly debunked.

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You may have heard vaccination causes autism
in one out of 110 children.

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Fuck that!

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Total bullshit.

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It doesn't.

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The bill requiring children to be vaccinated
has passed with bipartisan support.

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and day cares.

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I would strongly encourage everybody, look at
the science, look at the facts, CDC, the

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Center for Disease Control can give you good
information, get your children vaccinated.

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I was involved in deceiving millions of
taxpayers regarding the potential negative

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of vaccines.

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We lied about the scientific findings.

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The CDC can't be trusted to police itself.

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Just a few thoughts.

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Was sitting at my desk where I teach at
Simpson University, my phone rings, and it...

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Thompson.

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Brian, you and I don't know each other very
well.

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I don't know how this is all going to play
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You have a son with autism and I have great
shame now when I meet families with kids with

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My son, Steven, was born in February of 1998.

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Steve, what does the cow say?

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Weep, tweak.

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Peggy.

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Peggy.

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Peggy.

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Two weeks after his 15-month vaccines, then
he lost all language.

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He lost all eye contact.

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This is a time where CDC was just starting to
do these studies on vaccines and autism.

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As a scientist, I have over 60 technical and
scientific publications and major

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scientific journals.

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And I was contacting the CDC and was deeply
critical of their studies.

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And so the CDC decided that the scientist who
was going to interface with me at that

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Because I was on his back, because he didn't
like what I was saying about the statistics,

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I received a letter from a CDC attorney in
2004 saying that I was no longer permitted

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to contact the CDC.

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Fast forwarding to 2014, Thompson said to me,
"Brian, if you listen to me and if you

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of data, and I would like to guide you
through these steps."

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So I want to be a research and I want to be
valuable to you.

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I want you to have someone in the system.

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glimpses of what was not right.

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The CDC has put the research 10 years behind.

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Because the CDC has not been transparent,
we've missed 10 years of research because

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I am a licensed clinical psychologist and a
board certified behavior analyst.

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In 1978, I want to say the prevalence of
autism was about one in 15,000 children.

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It was a very rare disorder.

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children with autism, and we had maybe six to
10 children who we were working with.

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Somewhere around the early '90s, shortly
after I opened CARD, the growth of autism ...

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so high and so rapid that I've never felt
like I could ever catch up anymore.

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From an official diagnostic perspective, the
way that we define autism, we were looking

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The first is social communication and social
interaction, and in that area, we require

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three specific symptoms to be present.

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Symptoms such as no social-emotional
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contact, for instance, or no development of
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behaviors, and these are things like hand
flapping, body rocking, insistence on

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the same.

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One of the new additions is the presence of a
sensory dysregulation.

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the way we do, that could be classified as a
symptom of autism.

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So if you have five symptoms, two in the area
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of social communication deficit, then you
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We begin, though.

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As always, keep an eye on it.

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Breaking news tonight.

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Just hours ago, the British medical journal
BMJ did something extremely rare for a

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journal.

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It accused a researcher, Andrew Wakefield, of
outright fraud.

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I got a call on the 19th of May 1995 from a
mother telling me the story of her child,

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I know nothing about autism you've come
through to the wrong number."

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And she said, "No, doctor, my child has
terrible gastrointestinal issues, and no o...

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them seriously."

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I was an academic gastroenterologist doing
research with a particular interest in

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disease and Ulcerative Colitis, inflammatory
bowel disease.

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I knew nothing whatsoever about autism.

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We heard a succession of stories which were
very, very similar.

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Medicine is about pattern recognition, and
there was a clear pattern emerging.

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So we decided, a group of us, including the
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at the time, led by Professor John
Walker-Smith, decided that these children

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investigation.

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paper, the journal allowed it to run.

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All the other studies were done, showed no
connection whatsoever, again and again and

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again.

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So it's an absolute lie that has killed
thousands of kids.

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And what we discovered and reported for the
first time was this link between what

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to be a novel type of intestinal inflammation
and autistic regression in previously

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And among those, the majority had regressed
into autism, according to their parents

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the measles mumps rebella vaccine.

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It wasn't our place to censor their story
because it may be uncomfortable for public

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health.

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Our job was to report that story accurately
in order that it might lead to further

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And the paper explicitly said, this paper
does not prove an association between MMR

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More work is needed to resolve this issue.

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That was the conclusion of the paper.

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As an investigative medical journalist, I've
spent the last seven years working on one

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of the best medical talk shows in the world.

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We know in medicine that there have been
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cause autism.

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But the problem I have always had with that
is thousands and thousands of parents all

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telling the same story.

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out in a fever.

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And then when they came out of the fever,
lost speech, lost the ability to walk,

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regressed into what we know as autism and
never came back.

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Doctors used to be told to listen to their
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That was the cornerstone of medicine as we
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But something's changed recently where the
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about.

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no idea what's really going on with their
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I have two kids, and anyone that has children
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overly sensitive to every little hiccup,
every cough, every sniffle.

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So to say that a parent was just unaware that
their child had issues, and suddenly they

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realized one year later that, oh, they have
autism, that doesn't make sense to me.

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medicine, science, and real parents?

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I couldn't wait to be a mom.

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I remember specifically, before we even got
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would be in our lives.

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I wanted a daughter first, then I wanted a
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Bella was born, and that was a wonderful
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Bella was just an angelic, perfect child.

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She'd hit all her milestones.

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I got pregnant with Billy quite quickly.

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Bella, say hello to Billy.

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Hello.

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We've now got a beautiful girl and a
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Life was just amazing.

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So at two, four, and six months, Billy had
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So me, in my perfect mother mode, rushed to
the doctor, I mean, is he okay?

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Do I need to give him anything?

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Yes, you need to give him antibiotics, just
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It didn't clear up.

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Rush him back to the doctor, and we need more
antibiotics, just keep this going in him.

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And I remember my mother calling me out.

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My mother's sort of homeopathic hippie, and
calling out and saying, what do you do at

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your chucking, loads of antibiotics, down
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For what?

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best.

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He was due his MMR vaccination at 12 months.

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So the morning, exactly to the day, my
friend, she said to me, listen, I've heard

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may be a problem with this vaccine, we're
about to take Billy for the MMR.

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And I said, are you crazy, what is the matter
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If there was a problem with this vaccination,
it would be headline news.

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The doctor would be calling me up saying, do
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You're being negative, you're being careless,
and you're listening to what, some rumor that

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you heard somewhere, Billy could become deaf
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the MMR.

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You know, most of the evidence linking
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is kind of settled down, and most of the
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agree that it probably isn't the major cause.

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I've been working in pediatrics for almost 20
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I think most pediatricians view vaccines

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as the number one thing they do for kids.

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One, two, five, there we go.

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I'm young enough to not remember the days of
kids in an iron lung

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because they were battling polio.

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Polio has essentially been eradicated from
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In '98, the Wakefield study came out.

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My son had just been born.

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That study kind of pointed a finger at the
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As a parent, I was scared to give the MMR to
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because I wanted to see.

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I wanted to see what additional studies would
show.

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And over time, additional studies did show
that no, no, it's safe.

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And so he did get the vaccine.

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You know, if everybody stopped vaccinating,

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we'd be going back to the dark ages.

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When a CDC scientist who'd been there at that
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tells you, this is how you access data,

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it didn't take me very long to realize,

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oh, I better do what he says because he knows
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I just want to tell you one thing.

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Right now, I'm sitting in a very pretty
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in terms of providing you a lot of
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He asked me what data sets are you going to
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And I said, well, I'm going to ask him.

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And I said, well, I'm going to request two of
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that you've done on Tamerasol, the
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preservative that's used in some of the
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And he said, well, that's fine.

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But I want you to request the MMR data set
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And this is the study by Frank DiStefano and
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in 2004.

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It was the one study where we could end up
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while the CDC tried to sort out something

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The day Billy got the MMR was the loving
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That's the worst day of my life, to be honest
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I came in and I saw him lying in his cot
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He started this uncontrollable shaking,
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Imagine coming out of a frozen pond.

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His eyes were doing this, and he was shaking
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And I remember she grasped him and held him
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to her chest.

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And there's immediate, "Mommy, this is not
going to happen.

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I don't know what is wrong with you,

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but this is not going to happen."

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And we get to hospital.

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We rush him in.

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Doctors are coming in and looking at him.

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And that's when they said he's had a
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He's had a seizure.

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This is normal.

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This is common for many, many children

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who have this vaccination.

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It's absolutely OK.

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He's going to be fine.

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of any of the vaccinations my children had.

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Following his febrile convulsion that he had
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we were told to take him home.

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He slept in the bed with us for the night.

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He seemed just very, very sleepy.

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In fact, he didn't really ever wake up

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For me, it became really necessary to start
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what types of medical issues are these
children going through.

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What are the other factors that have affected
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that have brought them to this level of
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that we call autism?

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This is now probably the mid-90s.

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I came to notice that there was a very high
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of antibiotics amongst these children.

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the number of families who were reporting

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that their child had a regressive type of
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right after their vaccinations.

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A lot of these parents were showing me
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who had been completely developing normally
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incredible regression.

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Children who had speech anywhere close to 50
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and had completely lost all of their words.

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Children who were extremely attached and
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with their parents and had suddenly become
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no longer responding to their own name.

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This was all happening right after their MMR
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My oldest son, Ian, was born normal,
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He was this beautiful boy

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and we ended up at our 12-month visit,

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which is this one year.

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Then they gave him multiple vaccines at once.

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And within seven days, he had 104 fever

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and a rash all over his body.

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home videos that he was walking

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and actually running at that point.

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he was no longer able to do that.

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(gentle music)

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(gentle music)

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He was falling down.

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He became a really sick, sick little boy.

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So the question for those of us investigating
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is age of exposure to MMR, a risk for autism.

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And in order to understand why that might be,

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you have to understand something

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of the history of MMR vaccine.

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In 1987, there was an MMR vaccine

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produced by Smith Klein Beecham.

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And that vaccine caused meningitis.

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It was recognized quickly

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and that vaccine was withdrawn in Canada.

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However, in the same month that it was
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it was licensed in the UK.

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The name was simply changed from trivirics to
pluserings.

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In the UK, it was used for four years

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and likewise it caused meningitis

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and had to be rapidly withdrawn.

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It was a public outcry.

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by the public in vaccine policy makers

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and the vaccine should, at that point, have
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It wasn't.

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It was then shipped to developing countries
like Brazil

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where it was used in a mass vaccination
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And there was an epidemic of meningitis

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which was entirely predictable.

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Now, scientists studied that epidemic

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was associated with age of exposure.

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The younger you got the MMR vaccine

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and the greater the risk of meningitis.

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For people like me investigating autism,

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the question was, is there a similar risk in
autism?

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Is age of exposure to MMR a risk for autism

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just as it was for meningitis?

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- We shared with the US Congress and the CDC

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- The story has told to us

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at which we have an obligation to report

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is that the majority of children regressed

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following a period of normal development

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in the face of MMR vaccination.

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That does not mean it is the cause of the
disease.

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- The Institute of Medicine is a body of
scientists

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and physicians that review the available data

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on vaccine safety

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and then advise our government

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on vaccine research policy.

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that the age at which you receive the MMR

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may increase your risk of autism,

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the IOM looked to the CDC to do that very
study.

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It was a study about timing.

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Does the earlier you receive the MMR vaccine

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increase the risk of autism?

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- When we talk about the MMR study,

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nobody had ever requested those data

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because it was a big secret that you could do
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and then on the inside,

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I also found out that one of the people

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preparing these data sets for me was Bill
Thompson.

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- They don't really want people to know

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that this data exists again, you know.

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I just can't believe we actually got you that
data.

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- Thompson couldn't send these documents
directly

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to Brian Hooker because that would have been
illegal.

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What Thompson identified was a legal loophole

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That allowed Thompson to deliver to Brian
Hooker

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potentially classified information in a legal
way.

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- You get checked in England with your babies

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at certain times health by health visitors.

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So at nine months, Billy had his full blown
check

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and it says no parental concerns,

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baby laughing, babbling, talking.

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18 months is when they next come in.

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And by this time, we know there's something
seriously wrong

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with Billy.

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- Probably within five or six days,

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the first signs really was this vacancy.

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He wasn't the same smiley little baby that he
was before.

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He had a blank expression.

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Then the diarrhea kicked in.

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Rock hard bloated tummy.

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He would start to walk on tiptoes.

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His hair fell out and this dreadful high
pitch scream,

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sort of whiny scream developed from him.

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And then came the head banging,

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the constant banging against his crib,

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the constant banging against the floor or a
wall

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or anything that he could find to bang his
head on.

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He would thrash it and thrash it.

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just listening to this thud, thud, thud.

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- Thud.

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- There's nothing.

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He's now not even noticing his sister

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who he used to play with.

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John comes to the front door after work,

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no recognition that we were his parents

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or this child even belonged to us.

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Nothing, nothing gone.

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from what he was to a real tragic, tragic
case of a child

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who regressed into this autistic state

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and lost everything, lost everything.

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The CDC, the way that they do research
studies

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is very reactionary.

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They look at something that's creating a
press

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and creating a buzz that could actually lower
vaccination rates

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and that's what they study.

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They don't study vaccines proactively.

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So if Andy had never done his original study,

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gotten that published in the Lancet,

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would have never created the uproar

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then the CDC would have never studied this.

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- The press conference for the Lancet paper

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was called by the Dean of the Medical School

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who was the chairman of the media committee.

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- The separate association between MMR

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and autism was initially made in the United
States.

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- I had done an extensive research

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in the pre-licensing phase.

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In other words, what safety studies had been
done

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before these vaccines were put onto the
market

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and into children.

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The 250 page report was compiled by me

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showing that the vaccine safety studies

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for MMR in particular were lamentable.

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They were lamentable.

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There are many, many assumptions have been
made

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about the safety of this vaccine.

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So I wrote to my colleagues and the Dean

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and I said, going forward,

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there are going to be questions about

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what parents should do next.

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I cannot in due conscience support

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the continued use of the MMR vaccine

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having done this research.

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I said, I will continue to vigorously support

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the use of the single vaccine,

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but can no longer support the use of the
triple MMR vaccine.

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He could have not had a press conference.

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He could have banned.

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not had a press conference. He could have
banned me from the press conference.

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Or when the question came up as inevitably it
would, what do parents do next about

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their children? He knew what my response
would be. He could deflect the question to

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When the question came up on the day, he
directed it straight to me.

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agreed on. That is extremely important. All I
recommended at that press conference was that

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parents opt for the use of the single
vaccines, single measles, single mumps,

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until the issue had been resolved
scientifically. What happened when I made

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importation license for the single vaccines.
Merck opting in the US to cease the

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of the single vaccines, giving parents no
option. I said to a senior representative ...

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of Health, why if your objective is to
protect children against serious infectiou...

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why would you take away the option of how
parents do that? And she said, because if ...

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was for the protection of the program over
and above the protection of children.

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No one's career has ever been advanced in the
medical industrial complex

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by being outwardly and openly critical of the
vaccine industry. I'm Mark Blacksell,

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come out of the autism movement have been
projected into autism advocacy ever since.

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McKellis born typical, everything was fine,
was developing normally through her first

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We had vivid memories of early language,
joint attention, lots of play. She was

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and she began to retreat into a world of her
own. And at two years, nine months,

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we got a formal diagnosis of a full syndrome
autism. It was a hopeless pessimistic future

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that was laid out in front of us. She was
going to be disabled for the rest of her

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Part of the story we heard from the Harvard
experts was autism was genetic. It was low

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relatively constant prevalence. The more I
learned, the more clear it was that that

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orthodox view was false, completely false.
Revolutions only happen in science when there

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explosion in cases, which meant that what
people were trying to describe as a genetic

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neurologically based condition couldn't be
genetic. It could only be environmental. I...

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some set of things that had happened to
children. And you had to ask the question,

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LWT London weekend television. And this guy
said, why don't you do a program?

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And people out there may, there may be
someone out there with this condition.

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He said, this is going to be an unbelievable
story. So we've got nothing to lose. Right

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this child is either going to kill himself
because he's going to smash his head to

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or we're going to go insane because everybody
here is miserable.

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Computers were kind of new then, the whole
internet computer thing.

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Ours crashed, we'd set up a Billy Tommy
website just in case somebody,

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one person might be able to help us, crashed.
The television stations computers crashed.

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They had never seen anything like this
before. The parents had exactly the same

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The diarrhea, the constipation, the height,
hitch, scream, the banging of the head.

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We've all lived through it. It's the same
story.

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And it was Polly's idea to put all of this
stuff together in a magazine called Autism

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Let's all ask the questions and maybe someone
can help.

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They came to us out of desperation and we had
45,000 subscribers within four months.

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When I originally got the MMR autism data, I
came up with my own analysis plan

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I looked first of all at males versus
females.

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Then I looked at black males. The relative
risk of them receiving an autism diagnosis

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was astronomical and it was highly
statistically significant.

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I really had to scratch my head and say, "I
know nothing about the MMR vaccine."

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Wow. Really? After everything that had
happened, everything we'd all been through,

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everything that the families had suffered for
the last 15 years,

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and the CDC had known all along, there was
this MMR autism risk.

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As I started to divulge more of the
conversations, and I think it really hit him,

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The first thing that Thompson did was to plot
a graph.

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A graph of percentage of children vaccinated
against age at first MMR vaccination.

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The children with autism are represented by
the pink line, the children without autism

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by the blue line. Now, if there's no link
between early MMR and autism,

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Now, they do track together until they get to
15 months,

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and then they separate, and they continue to
separate thereafter.

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This was their first indication that MMR
vaccine was causing autism,

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and that finding alone rocked Thompson back
on his heels.

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This was a huge issue for Andy.

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So I said to Brian, "Brian, are you recording
these conversations?"

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I've almost seen cruel.

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Whistleblowers can disappear as easily as
they came.

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They're like a fish on a hook.

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And your job is to get them into the boat.

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Temple walked at 12 months, so he had been
walking for an entire month

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before we went in for the next set of
vaccinations.

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she's screaming her head off.

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I mean, she knows what's going on.

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She doesn't want the doctor touching her.

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I look up, and there she's got the shots
lined up.

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Three for him, three for her.

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By the second shot, Lucinda had flipped
herself over.

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So I had to stop looking at what I was doing,

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unstrap her, get her out.

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He's screaming.

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I look at the shots, and I notice that one of
hers was gone.

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There are only two shots left for her.

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And I asked the nurse practitioner, I said,
"What happened to that other shot?"

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She says, "Oh, oh my goodness, I gave it to
him."

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I said, "Which one was it?"

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She said, "It was the other MMR."

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I said, "Call the doctor."

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This baby is screaming his head off.

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I don't know what the effect of that's going
to be.

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We're leaving, and I left.

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So she never got her shots.

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I go home.

480
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:02,760
This baby cried, cried, cried.

481
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,320
I put him down on this little blanket.

482
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,440
He starts banging his head on the floor,
banging his head on the floor.

483
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:17,640
Next morning, I go in this room, and he's
staring in the space, and he's looking aro...

484
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:28,600
Not the baby who was always doing this every
morning, smiling for me to get him out of

485
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,079
And I pick him up, and he does this.

486
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:37,159
And I said, "What has happened to my baby?"

487
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:38,360
So I call the clinic.

488
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:45,720
And I said, "I think my child's had adverse
reaction to those shots yesterday."

489
00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:52,199
I don't think it was a reaction to that."

490
00:36:52,199 --> 00:37:02,519
Bill Thompson looked at African Americans.

491
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:09,880
He saw that those African Americans that got
the MMR on time were 2.64 times more likely

492
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:22,440
What this was suggesting is that among the
Blacks, the ones that were getting vaccina...

493
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,600
were more likely to have autism.

494
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:30,840
At that point, the group of researchers that
was working on this particular study,

495
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,440
they were having weekly meetings.

496
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:38,280
Colleen Boyle, who was the head of
Developmental Disabilities Branch,

497
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,720
Frank DeStefano, who was the head of the
Immunization Safety Office,

498
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:52,119
and then a postdoctoral research associate
named Tanya Basin.

499
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:57,880
In that meeting, Thompson brought up the fact
that African Americans were showing

500
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,800
a highly statistically significant risk of
autism if they got the MMR on time.

501
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:11,159
I mean, do people say, "Oh, well, this is
unacceptable,"

502
00:38:11,159 --> 00:38:16,680
or do they always say, "Oh, this can't be
right," or "I'm not going to lie?"

503
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:26,280
But I also don't want to say things to you
right now that aren't some written form.

504
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,480
Right.

505
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,840
that just shook through the CDC.

506
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,079
I take him to see the pediatrician that I
know.

507
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:47,480
And she looks at me, she closes the door, and
she whispers.

508
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,760
She says, "Sure, I believe he has autism."

509
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,600
I say, "What? Like rain, man?"

510
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,800
She says something like that.

511
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:00,760
And we go see the neurologist the next week.

512
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,800
He says, "He has every classical symptom of
autism.

513
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,559
I do not believe this.

514
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:08,680
I was angry."

515
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,039
When he was explaining to me what cannabis
autism is,

516
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:13,720
he told me he was born that way.

517
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:14,920
I said, "No, he wasn't."

518
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,240
Clearly, there was a very high risk of autism
in African American children.

519
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:23,480
But here's the thing, we know that autism is
four times more common in boys.

520
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:35,400
When I looked at African American males only,
the relative risk was 3.36.

521
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,240
It just blew my mind.

522
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:40,760
And that's when I wanted to call Bill
Thompson on the phone.

523
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,039
And his statement to me was, "Oh, you found
it."

524
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:50,119
The appears in the final publication is that
race in general is downplayed.

525
00:39:52,920 --> 00:40:06,840
Temple's twin is amazing.

526
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,960
She is fluent in three languages.

527
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,519
She speaks French like a native.

528
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:15,320
She is an A student.

529
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,800
She plays classical piano.

530
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:29,800
was to walk out of that office without her
being vaccinated.

531
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:35,800
At the end of this journey, I don't want to
be one of those mothers standing there saying

532
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,119
what I wish I would or could have should have
done.

533
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:41,640
I want to be able to say I gave it everything
that I had.

534
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,680
I gave it my best shot.

535
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,240
Now am I grateful he's here, you bet?

536
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:58,440
I'm grateful my son lived.

537
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,519
But I was so naive that...

538
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:16,599
He would end up being a happy man, having a
family, my dreams for him.

539
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:34,599
All about vaccines! So what do vaccines do?

540
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:38,599
Vaccines build up your immune system and make
you stronger to fight off disease.

541
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:40,599
Are vaccines safe?

542
00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:45,599
Yes, studies involving millions of children
have shown no connection between vaccines ...

543
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:54,599
The CDC's own vaccine schedule, which we are
required to adhere to as parents in America,

544
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:58,599
recommends that our children get the MMR
between 12 and 18 months.

545
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:05,599
But in this hidden data provided to us by
William Thompson, it is clear that for

546
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:09,599
this is actually the most dangerous time to
deliver the MMR.

547
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:21,599
I probably either go on their website or open
one of their reference books every day.

548
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:25,599
That building is filled with a lot of
scientists that are smarter than me.

549
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:46,599
It's the laws or the rules by which the
scientist will adhere to while doing the

550
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:50,599
And this analysis plan is put together by the
scientists themselves.

551
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:52,599
Sometimes they're superior's way in.

552
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:58,599
But once they've locked that analysis plan,
they've said this is how we're going to us...

553
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:02,599
And you can't deviate from that analysis
plan.

554
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:05,599
Or you're at risk of fraud, scientific fraud.

555
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,599
If they did, we have a real problem.

556
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:21,599
Thompson not only played a major role in
developing the analysis plan, he was the

557
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:27,599
He was responsible for collecting the data,
analyzing the data, and presenting the

558
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:31,599
And by November 2001, the results were in.

559
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:48,599
And I'm going to be sharing these draft
analysis plans that we had.

560
00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:51,599
And you can see whether we did what we said
we're going to do.

561
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:58,599
That analysis plan had been agreed upon not
only by the co-authors, but also CDC's

562
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:09,599
in order to reduce what is referred to as the
statistical power.

563
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:15,599
That is, the ability of the study to detect a
difference if one genuinely exists.

564
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:19,599
In the analysis plan, they had agreed to use
two sources of information.

565
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:24,599
The first was the children's school records
and the second was the children's Georgia

566
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:33,599
because the other half had been born in other
states.

567
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:35,599
So the analysis plan was explicit.

568
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:39,599
Information on a child's race was to come
from their school record.

569
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:45,599
But when confronted by data that revealed an
increased risk of autism in African Americ...

570
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:47,599
so they deviated from their analysis plan.

571
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:53,599
They chose to get the race data not from the
school record, but from the Georgia birth

572
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:04,599
The relative risk went down from 2.64 to 1.8.

573
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:10,599
But more importantly, that relative risk was
no longer statistically significant.

574
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:15,599
I now ask you to step forward to receive your
prize from the hands of His Majesty the King.

575
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:25,599
I am a virologist by training.

576
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:31,599
I obtained the Nobel Prize for my
contribution to the discovery of the AIDS

577
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:37,599
The vaccine-autism interaction is a worldwide
problem,

578
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:42,599
not only in this country, in Europe, but also
in Asia, even in Africa.

579
00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:57,599
was more prominent in African American
children, and this was hidden for some time.

580
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:05,599
This fraud, of course, ranks very high, to my
opinion, in the ethics of medicine and

581
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:19,599
so I'm very disappointed to see a different
situation with CDC, dealing with autism.

582
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:28,599
Shortly after Julie Gerberding became head of
the CDC,

583
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:33,599
I began to communicate with her and ask her
to come to my office.

584
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:43,599
There was the CDC trying to promote
vaccination for children,

585
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:47,599
and then they were doing the safety research
themselves.

586
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:53,599
In CDC's judgment, the best public policy is
to continue vaccination unchanged,

587
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:58,599
while aggressively working to try to identify
causes of developmental disabilities.

588
00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:07,599
The CDC can't take money directly from
pharma, but they can set up a foundation,

589
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:11,599
and the foundation can attract donations from
commercial interests and does.

590
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:19,599
Merck, GlaxoSmithKlein, now Pfizer, Sanofi
eventus have huge, multi-billion dollar

591
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:24,599
They're profitable, they've grown because
some of these new high-tech vaccines

592
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:36,599
of regulatory capture in HHS and are
guaranteed multi-billion dollar franchises.

593
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:40,599
When I was working at Merck, I was a sales
rep for Vioxx.

594
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:45,599
The whole scandal started when it was
discovered that Merck had manipulated data

595
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:51,599
and covered up the fact that Vioxx actually
caused twice the amount of heart attacks a...

596
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:57,599
does not mean they are safe.

597
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:04,599
I think we get into a very dangerous
territory with vaccinations.

598
00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:07,599
If a drug company gets just one vaccine added
to the schedule,

599
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:11,599
they can make upwards of 30 billion dollars
in one year.

600
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:14,599
It's no secret. I think they've published
their intention,

601
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:20,599
which is they want to create an environment
of constant vaccination from cradle to grave.

602
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:28,599
Gardasil shots, meningicoccal shots.

603
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:30,599
They want adult vaccines.

604
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:35,599
They want you and me to come in and get a
constant barrage of shots.

605
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:37,599
And then they want vaccines for the elderly.

606
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:42,599
We have a highly profitable product because
the safety testing isn't as rigorous

607
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:44,599
as a normal pharmaceutical drug.

608
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:48,599
The gold standard is double-blind,
placebo-based, long-term study.

609
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:56,599
because they're classified in a different way
as a public health measure.

610
00:48:56,599 --> 00:48:59,599
And they haven't been tested in combination
with other vaccines.

611
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:03,599
Yet doctors give six to nine doses per visit.

612
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:04,599
It's insane.

613
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:09,599
If pharmaceutical drug was tested like this,
it wouldn't be on the market.

614
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:13,599
But because it's a vaccine and the safety
testing is less rigorous,

615
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:16,599
our children are being experimented on.

616
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:23,599
I look at it from more of what causes it in
each child.

617
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:25,599
When I want to define autism,

618
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:29,599
I have to say that it's the inability to
detoxify the way you're supposed to

619
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:31,599
or the rate that you're supposed to.

620
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:34,599
It all has to do with this toxic overload.

621
00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:38,599
These children are not detoxifying from the
vaccinations.

622
00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:40,599
Same thing with GMO products.

623
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:42,599
The pesticides in our food.

624
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:49,599
then when I'm teaching the child,

625
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:53,599
at least the child's getting better and not
continuously getting worse.

626
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:56,599
Without a doubt, what's happened to Billy has
changed his life.

627
00:49:56,599 --> 00:50:06,599
What I have on my hands now is a 19-year-old
man.

628
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:09,599
He's six-foot-two. He is volatile.

629
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:15,599
On bad days, the slightest thing can trigger
him and he's scary.

630
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:18,599
I'm going to go downstairs and get daddy
right now.

631
00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:20,599
You need to stay up here, okay?

632
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:22,599
I'm going to kill daddy right now!

633
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:25,599
Bill, listen to me. I'm going to stay with
you up here

634
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:27,599
and you're going to try and calm down, okay?

635
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:31,599
The reason they become aggressive and
dangerous in some cases

636
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:35,599
is because they have no ability to
communicate.

637
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:44,599
and then bringing the chickens here.

638
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:46,599
Because this is your fault, Mummy.

639
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:48,599
If you were not able to express your needs,

640
00:50:48,599 --> 00:50:52,599
your wants, your desires, your happiness and
sadness,

641
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:54,599
and so on, you would become aggressive.

642
00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:57,599
That's often when we see the worst part of
autism.

643
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:10,599
And of course, that is a massive intrusion in
his space

644
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:13,599
and he got very upset.

645
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:16,599
Where else in this house can we play a video
with?

646
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:18,599
Remember? Listen, Bill.

647
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:20,599
Push the stress level, Billy.

648
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:22,599
Bill, don't hurt Danny.

649
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:25,599
Out there, there's millions of me.

650
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:28,599
There's millions of polytomies with
vaccine-damaged children.

651
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:33,599
I am telling you this because I do not want
you to live the life that I've led.

652
00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:38,599
I do not want to see you suffer. We'll
finally suffer.

653
00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:39,599
That is why I'm telling you.

654
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:41,599
I have no other reason to tell you about it.

655
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,599
It's not my concern. My kids are already
damaged.

656
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:55,599
I am a senior research scientist here at MIT

657
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:58,599
in the Computer Science and Artificial
Intelligence Laboratory.

658
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:01,599
I have a bachelor's degree in biology from
MIT

659
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:07,599
Also from MIT in electrical engineering and
computer science.

660
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:10,599
I became interested in autism a long time ago

661
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:14,599
when my best friend at the time had a son who
was diagnosed with autism

662
00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:17,599
following a DPT shot.

663
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:20,599
He had ran a high fever after the shot
seizures a week later

664
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:23,599
and then was later diagnosed with autism.

665
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:25,599
We have to accept the fact that autism is
new.

666
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:30,599
That before 1930, the rate of autism in the
world was effectively zero.

667
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:36,599
I got interested in studying autism eight
years ago

668
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:39,599
when I saw the numbers go up and I was quite
alarmed

669
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:42,599
because I could see that the trend was
exponential growth.

670
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:45,599
And exponential growth is extremely scary.

671
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:48,599
Since really the mid to late 80s

672
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:51,599
we've gone from this low prevalence
environment

673
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:55,599
to a rate of increase where the trend is
still vertical.

674
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:57,599
We have not seen a flattening in trend.

675
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:03,599
are diagnosed with autism.

676
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:06,599
And you've got the dots going all the way
back to 1975.

677
00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:09,599
You draw the line. It is a perfect
exponential curve.

678
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:12,599
If we assume that things are going to
continue

679
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:16,599
as they have for the past 30 years into the
future

680
00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:19,599
we can predict that by 2032

681
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:23,599
80% of the boys born will end up on the
autism spectrum.

682
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:26,599
Half the children 80% of the boys.

683
00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:46,599
[music]

684
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:48,599
If you think this vaccine is only a problem

685
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:51,599
for African American kids like me, you're
wrong.

686
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:53,599
There's an even bigger problem.

687
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:55,599
One that puts all kids at risk.

688
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:05,599
[music]

689
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,599
When the CDC researchers set out to do the
study

690
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:10,599
they asked themselves the question

691
00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:13,599
if early MMR vaccine causes autism

692
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:17,599
in which children would we be most likely to
find this effect?

693
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:22,599
Their answer is children with no
developmental concerns

694
00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:26,599
Children who were perfectly healthy

695
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:29,599
until they received their MMR vaccine.

696
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:33,599
They called this group isolated autism.

697
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:37,599
Now this does not refer to an isolated case

698
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:40,599
of autism or an isolated group with autism.

699
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:46,680
an isolated group with autism. They isolated
autism out as the children who had no

700
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:56,120
apart from their autism. No cerebral palsy,
no mental retardation, no visual or hearin...

701
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:17,000
world. I'm a single father raising a 15 year
old severely autistic nonverbal teenage

702
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:22,680
When she was 15 months old she received a
round of vaccines that included the MMR an...

703
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:35,000
old when I took her in for her vaccination.
Two hours later she had a five minute seizure

704
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:41,320
and two hours after that she had another five
minute seizure. Mom is here. Come on, come

705
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:47,960
you're okay, you're okay. Come on baby, come
on baby, come on, you can do it, come on

706
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:58,039
gave her severe brain damage and she had
seizures every day for the rest of her lif...

707
00:55:58,039 --> 00:56:04,120
in my arms at the age of 15. There is no good
reason to choose not to get a vaccine. He ...

708
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:11,160
and he got his DTP and within days he stopped
talking. Projectile vomiting, convulsions. He

709
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:24,600
all acquired speech. He lost his speech, he
lost his eye contact, like the flick of a

710
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,320
vaccines were unsafe I think this would be an
interesting and reasonable discussion.

711
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:34,600
some minority get hurt by this stuff. I don't
understand why this is controversial.

712
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:46,360
that Merck wants to shove down my throat.
Autism is not a side effect of vaccine or ...

713
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:51,800
another way because some people don't want,
don't hear this well. Vaccines do not caus...

714
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:58,840
Hear this well. Hear this well. Please hear
this well. Hear this well. Vaccine can and...

715
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:09,800
I had a healthy, typically developing boy.
Please hear this well. Vaccines cause autism.

716
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:15,080
One day everyone will know the truth about
vaccines. Hear this well.

717
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:26,039
I actually think the most interesting results
are the elevated ones for the isolated one...

718
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:38,600
In isolated autism he saw a very, very strong
effect specific to those kids that got the

719
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:46,360
on time. When Bill Thompson ran those numbers
he saw an astronomical effect. Some of the

720
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:53,800
were actually the relative risks were as high
as seven or eight times higher with these

721
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:07,720
Isolated autism is confusing because it
sounds small but it really is a big problem

722
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:15,240
because all healthy children no matter what
race are at risk. For example, my sister's...

723
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:22,120
old and she's supposed to get her MMR shot
right now but if she does she's seven time...

724
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:37,640
Here's what's really scary. When we look at
isolated autism we see that there's an up ...

725
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:42,519
fold increase in the incidence of autism
between those that received the vaccine

726
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:47,960
between 12 and 18 months versus those that
got it after three years old. But let's be

727
00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:00,760
compared children who got the vaccine between
12 and 18 months versus children that neve...

728
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:09,160
vaccine at all? This is often referred to as
the Vax versus Unvax study and the CDC

729
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:15,400
this study even though every drug that we
take has been through this exact study.

730
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:25,320
there more side effects and complications
with the group that takes the drug. So why

731
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:32,600
refuse to do the Vax versus Unvax study?
Probably because when we look at the resul...

732
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:38,280
we realize that the risk would be
astronomical and is likely to be one of th...

733
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:55,880
children they went into the room and they
sliced and diced the data in an effort to ...

734
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:01,960
that effect. This is Colleen Boyle's meeting
notes how they plan to present the data by

735
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:16,760
groups. Even this failed to achieve the
desired effect since in the end they simpl...

736
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:22,840
the relevant findings from the paper
altogether. I was just looking at that I'm

737
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:37,480
the health field you who run our health
agencies in this country who are sitting h...

738
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:44,600
have an obligation to these kids that you
just saw there to make sure that these

739
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:51,720
thorough so that everybody knows that we have
all the facts and you don't have that. One...

740
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:04,920
under oath and if they were doctoring the
results of a study and they did it

741
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:11,880
committed a felony. It used to be one in ten
thousand and now it's one in more than 250

742
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:19,560
kids that are being damaged in this country
that are autistic. Now those kids are goin...

743
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:29,160
infected and they drop dead they're going to
live to be 50 60 years old now who do you

744
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:36,840
to take care of them? It's going to be us all
of us the taxpayers and it's going to cost...

745
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:44,120
you said Ms. Maloney trillions of dollars so
we can't let the pharmaceutical companies ...

746
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:58,840
the taxpayers trillions more if we wait
around on it and for our FDA and HHS and t...

747
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:04,120
to continue to hide behind this facade that
there have been studies that conclusively

748
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:10,520
is just wrong too. So the CDC wasn't just
doing this study inside of a bubble in fac...

749
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:22,600
demanding answers about mercury and the MMR
and vaccine studies and the connection to

750
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:27,480
Dave Weldon congressman from Florida is
reaching out to Julie Gerberding with seri...

751
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:32,840
on how he thinks this entire issue is being
handled. On top of that the Department of

752
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:38,680
is requesting files and data from the CDC
because of a previous study called the

753
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:49,640
suspicious. So then you look at the emails
that Thompson's provided to us and you see

754
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:56,280
reaching out to his line manager Dr. Melinda
Wharton throwing up red flags saying I fir...

755
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:02,200
you in September of 2002 regarding the
sensitive results we have been struggling

756
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:15,640
that doesn't make any sense. So you've got
Dan Burton breathing down their necks the

757
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:22,360
Department of Justice is requesting files and
William Thompson finds out that Colleen Boyle

758
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:28,120
has brought in a lawyer to help her decide
what materials are too sensitive to provid...

759
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:40,920
Wharton he says I will be hiring my own
personal attorney and it's extremely

760
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:45,960
need to be concerned about whether our own
legal rights are covered when participatin...

761
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:54,920
such as this. Now what's going on here? We
have government scientists lawyering up ov...

762
01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:07,160
email he makes what looks to me to be a clear
threat. My level of concern has also cause...

763
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:13,400
to seriously consider removing myself as an
author on the draft manuscript. So then a ...

764
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:20,840
Thompson writes directly to Dr. Walter
Ornstein head of the national immunization

765
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:34,680
Thompson has gone all the way to the top of
his department. I mean we don't ever get a

766
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:39,720
from Walter Ornstein but Thompson is very
clear on what happened next.

767
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:50,680
The higher ups wanted to do certain things
and I went along with it in terms of chain...

768
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:02,840
in fall of 2002 there was a meeting with the
trash can rolled in and they selected

769
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:09,160
destroyed. I led all the analyses with the
discussion of saying literally everyone el...

770
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:14,520
their documents so the only documents that
exist right now from that study are mine.

771
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:19,160
were noted out federal records. They were
very important documents because they show...

772
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:30,200
those documents and so in his office he kept
not only the hard copies but the computeri...

773
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:39,079
for that study. There was a dramatically
different result presented before and afte...

774
01:05:39,079 --> 01:05:45,240
that Thompson alleged that these data were
destroyed. If I never had the documents

775
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:58,200
and they decided to destroy those results. I
filed a formal complaint to the Office of

776
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:03,720
Research Integrity and the Department of
Health and Human Services. I heard back no...

777
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:11,240
the complaint was filed and the letter
basically stated that every co-author exce...

778
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:24,520
away. They were calling Dr. Thompson a liar.
It was their word against his. Dr. Thompso...

779
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:32,120
that this would happen. There are things I
haven't even shared with you because I can...

780
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:37,160
and that's what I struggle with. I don't want
to share things with you that I can't prov...

781
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:53,400
not true. Dr. Thompson provided meeting notes
to me for precisely the time where the

782
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:59,880
are claiming that no meeting took place.
That's what I keep seeing again and again ...

783
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:13,880
So look once you have the data a scientific
study like this is a relatively simple

784
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:18,920
You just run the data you get the results and
then you publish those results in the paper.

785
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,240
In their own analysis plan this study was
only supposed to take six months

786
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:38,920
end up taking four years? The question
everybody needs to be asking the CDC is wh...

787
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:47,720
between October 2002 and February of 2004.
The reason you don't see anything else

788
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:02,760
secret meetings behind closed doors DeStefano
emerges with the final draft of the MMR study

789
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:10,280
and they're going to present it to the
Institute of Medicine. People on the IOM m...

790
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:16,520
government academia government industry and
they then they bounce around it's all the

791
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:23,319
people and there wasn't a really good
policeman in all this to really make sure

792
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:28,760
safety studies are done properly and that
they're done objectively. It just didn't s...

793
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:35,800
we were we were running a system that was
credible. I had written to Julie Gerberdin...

794
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:48,920
report I wanted to postpone because of my
concern that this was not an exercise in

795
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:54,920
the truth but was instead a meeting being
driven by a desire to short-circuit import...

796
01:08:54,920 --> 01:09:01,399
and draw premature conclusions. The problem
is William Thompson being the lead scientist

797
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:14,600
that he goes above the lead author DeStefano
above Walter Ornstein all the way to the h...

798
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:22,680
CDC Dr. Julie Gerberding and in an email he
says "Dear Dr. Gerberding I will have to

799
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:29,640
several problematic results relating to
statistical associations between the recei...

800
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:43,560
going to tell the truth." Thompson was
originally scheduled to provide a briefing

801
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:50,520
told Director Gerberding that he would have
to say that there is a causal association ...

802
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:57,000
switched at the last minute with Frank
DeStefano who was able to report to the IO...

803
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:13,800
the truth the IOM declared MMR vaccine safe.
It was a rushed judgment to shut the door

804
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:21,159
and completely on the MMR autism link it's
absolutely appalling that much of what I said

805
01:10:28,359 --> 01:10:33,159
you know it's the lowest point in my career
that I went along with that paper. After

806
01:10:33,159 --> 01:10:38,680
work on the MMR study DeStefano and his team
received an award from the Department of

807
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:44,840
and Human Services and then several years
later Dr. Julie Gerberding received an awa...

808
01:10:53,880 --> 01:11:06,439
had done investigating their vaccine. Just to
let you know I wrote a paper on my results...

809
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:14,119
and it will include something that I got from
you. Brian was about to publish a paper

810
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:27,079
and from that point forward William Thompson
was a marked man. Andy approached me and said

811
01:11:27,079 --> 01:11:33,960
it's time to publicize a CDC whistleblower.
Ironically 12 years later while Thompson is

812
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:40,359
bearing his soul to Brian Hooker in front of
Congress Colleen Boyle is just peddling th...

813
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:53,560
I wonder if the CDC has conducted or
facilitated a study comparing vaccinated

814
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:58,439
unvaccinated children yet have you done that?
We have actually done a number of studies

815
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:04,199
at the relationship between um uh thimerosal
vaccines and autism and other developmental

816
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:17,159
Thompson. Vaccines and their components did
not increase the risk for autism. My time ...

817
01:12:17,159 --> 01:12:24,840
limited here so clearly definitely
unequivocally you have studied uh vaccinat...

818
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:32,039
We have not studied vaccinated versus
unvaccinated. Okay never mind just stop there

819
01:12:37,159 --> 01:12:42,520
related paper to a journal called Nature
Neuroscience and in that paper he had

820
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:48,520
to an unnamed source at the CDC and my worst
fears were realized when a journalist from

821
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:55,079
Neuroscience contacted the CDC contacted
Walter Orenstein the message went on to Fr...

822
01:12:55,079 --> 01:12:59,960
who sent it out to the co-authors saying keep
your heads down this may be coming your way.

823
01:13:05,399 --> 01:13:11,880
So I said to him Brian we've got to do three
things we have got to get Thompson a

824
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:17,960
lawyer we've got to make sure that his
documents are with posie and we've got to

825
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:26,039
Whistleblowers are in danger only as long as
the only people who know their identity ar...

826
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:46,119
while the U.S. autism rate has skyrocketed
from one in 10,000 to one in 50. Dozens of

827
01:13:46,119 --> 01:13:54,039
research papers show that yes vaccines and
autism are linked yet the debate rages on ...

828
01:14:01,319 --> 01:14:07,720
lobbying. It shields drug companies from
liability for injuries and deaths caused b...

829
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:14,199
they manufacture vaccines that the federal
government admits are unavoidably unsafe.

830
01:14:14,199 --> 01:14:19,640
Instead of suing the pharmaceutical company
directly parents are forced to petition the

831
01:14:25,159 --> 01:14:31,319
the case is argued before a special master in
the U.S. Claims Court. Many refer to this as

832
01:14:31,319 --> 01:14:38,760
vaccine court. Here are some shocking facts
about the so-called vaccine court.

833
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:46,039
companies do not have to participate in the
proceedings at all. Taxpayers pay for all

834
01:14:51,800 --> 01:15:02,600
bill for their defense. Beginning in 2002
there were already thousands of cases

835
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:09,399
in vaccine court and the average compensation
for autistic child is in the range of five

836
01:15:09,399 --> 01:15:15,560
dollars so just do the math the government
was facing several hundred billion possibl...

837
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:28,760
that would exonerate MMR to deliberately
defeat the cases in vaccine court to avoid

838
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:35,960
trillion dollars. So the thousands of autism
petitioners were denied their fair day in

839
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:43,079
by a corrupt and deliberate obstruction of
justice. It is one of the most unethical

840
01:15:49,560 --> 01:16:02,600
as a direct affront to the congressional
mandate that they all be compensated.

841
01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:18,520
there's going to be a whistleblower from the
CDC who is going to come out and say that ...

842
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:24,439
had committed fraud on the MMR study and that
they knew that vaccines were actually causing

843
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:31,479
autism. I mean that's a huge story.
Unfortunately it was a story I would not b...

844
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,800
medical talk show because a lot of our
funding was coming from the pharmaceutical

845
01:16:40,359 --> 01:16:47,960
But I knew that once this story broke two
weeks later that the mainstream news media

846
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:53,559
it up. Fox would be on it. CNN would be on
MSNBC and we're talking about the biggest

847
01:16:53,559 --> 01:17:00,600
in the last decade or two at least. So that
two weeks came. I saw the video that was

848
01:17:05,559 --> 01:17:14,680
Oh my god I cannot believe we did what we
did. But we did. It's all there. It's all

849
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:22,359
And I watched the blogosphere go crazy.
Tweets. Facebook. Social media. Everybody

850
01:17:22,359 --> 01:17:30,119
it. But not one mainstream media source went
anywhere near the story. In fact on CNN

851
01:17:37,079 --> 01:17:43,800
wait a minute not only is my medical talk
show being produced by the pharmaceutical

852
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:49,399
all of television is. We were never going to
get this story.

853
01:17:49,399 --> 01:17:57,960
But we certainly did get a story. A highly
contagious measles outbreak. Major outbreak.

854
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:10,199
of letting up. But in 2014 the number tripled
to 644 measles cases reported in 27 states.

855
01:18:10,199 --> 01:18:18,359
It's really amazing to consider the number of
cases of autism every year and to contrast

856
01:18:18,359 --> 01:18:24,279
to let's say the number of children who
acquired measles by going to Disneyland.

857
01:18:32,039 --> 01:18:40,359
are being diagnosed with autism every day. We
don't know what causes autism. I mean that's

858
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:44,600
fair to say we're not sure the scientific
community what causes autism but we know

859
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:50,760
that vaccines do not. Now I'm not saying that
Sanjay Gupt is a bad guy. In fact I think

860
01:18:58,039 --> 01:19:04,359
body that provides them with their
information what happens to all of us? Wha...

861
01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:12,600
doctor sees the same data that I saw? So
you're a scientist basically. So you're

862
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:17,239
and you feel 100% comfortable. You even said
you have kids so you're a family person. Yes.

863
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:26,359
of specialty? Sure I've been a family
medicine physician for over 10 years now a...

864
01:19:26,359 --> 01:19:32,760
families everyone from newborns all the way
up to my oldest patient is 96. So do you

865
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:38,520
vaccines as a part of that? Yes I do
administer vaccines. In our clinic we foll...

866
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:44,520
recommendations and we give that information
to our patients and we give them a schedul...

867
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:54,520
to show you. This is the formal complaint
about what they've been given by William

868
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:59,800
whistleblower at the CDC. There's all sorts
of reference materials in here and things

869
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:06,520
I'm just going to give you time to look at it
studied as long as you want. When you feel

870
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:21,559
So I have sent you what William Thompson has
said is the fraud at the CDC. All of that

871
01:20:21,559 --> 01:20:30,760
was missing. Did you get a chance to really
look it over? It's really unbelievable how

872
01:20:38,359 --> 01:20:44,600
that's been mandating how I practice medicine
for the past 10 years. If they're lying ab...

873
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:51,000
or leaving data out about this particular
study, what else am I being lied to about?

874
01:20:51,000 --> 01:21:01,239
I'm still trying to digest it because this
study which was used to kind of give the

875
01:21:09,319 --> 01:21:14,600
been lied to. When they set out to do the
study, they wanted to look at the data and

876
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:21,559
the data. But then there's a piece of data
that they chose to ignore. The data they

877
01:21:21,559 --> 01:21:29,079
was really, really significant. Think about
it. It's a big deal. It is a big deal for ...

878
01:21:35,559 --> 01:21:42,760
destroying the brains of children. Everything
I've been telling my patients for the last...

879
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:50,760
has been based on a lie and a cover-up.
Parents making decisions about their

880
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:55,479
deserve to have the best information
available to them. They should be able to

881
01:21:54,039 --> 01:21:59,199
They should be able to count on federal
agencies to tell them the truth.

882
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:03,039
Once Brian and I had outed Bill Thompson, he
got himself a whistleblower lawyer.

883
01:22:03,039 --> 01:22:08,079
He provided all of his documents on the
fraudulent CDC study to Congressman Posey,

884
01:22:08,079 --> 01:22:09,639
before the Congress.

885
01:22:09,639 --> 01:22:13,599
Considering the nature of the whistleblower's
documents, as well as the involvement of the

886
01:22:13,599 --> 01:22:19,039
CDC, a hearing and a thorough investigation
is warranted.

887
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,439
to please, please take such action.

888
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:29,439
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

889
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:30,760
I yield back.

890
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:35,359
It's now been seven months since Congressman
Bill Posey urged the Congress to subpoena

891
01:22:35,359 --> 01:22:39,079
Bill Thompson, and they have done nothing.

892
01:22:39,079 --> 01:22:42,679
Bill Thompson wants to be subpoenaed by
Congress.

893
01:22:49,159 --> 01:22:50,880
threat of jail time.

894
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:51,880
Absolutely.

895
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,000
William Thompson needs to go before Congress.

896
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,399
He needs to go before the whole nation.

897
01:22:57,399 --> 01:23:00,599
Everybody needs to see what he has to say.

898
01:23:00,599 --> 01:23:03,960
He needs to be deposed in front of a
committee in Congress.

899
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:09,439
And Julie Gerberding has to be brought in and
deposed, because this is a very, very, very

900
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,319
disturbing revelation.

901
01:23:16,679 --> 01:23:24,679
concealing critical information about an MMR
autism lane, horrible, horrible development.

902
01:23:24,679 --> 01:23:32,039
Deviation from an analysis plan, a mission of
crucial data, destruction of documents,

903
01:23:32,039 --> 01:23:40,239
obstruction of justice, misleading the
Congress, grievous harm to innocent children.

904
01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:44,359
You and I are in agreement.

905
01:23:44,359 --> 01:23:46,399
Vaccine safety should not be in the CDC.

906
01:23:46,399 --> 01:23:47,399
Absolutely.

907
01:23:47,399 --> 01:23:52,000
You would end up with an agency like the
National Transportation Safety Board.

908
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,199
The next thing they need to do is they need
to, somebody needs to reintroduce the Weldon

909
01:23:56,199 --> 01:23:57,599
Maloney bill.

910
01:23:57,599 --> 01:24:02,679
It needs to be very, very quickly enacted,
and you need to take all of the vaccine

911
01:24:02,679 --> 01:24:05,039
responsibilities out of the CDC.

912
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,920
Jurgen Alsop and Tanya Besin.

913
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,559
My son has been debilitated for 17 years.

914
01:24:18,559 --> 01:24:24,479
I think jail time is too good for these
individuals who have perpetrated such fraud.

915
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:32,359
The notion of vaccinating children,
protecting children against serious

916
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:43,639
You hear about measles outbreaks in
Disneyland, and then they try and sell you

917
01:24:43,639 --> 01:24:49,199
We didn't see autism being reported as a
consequence of the single vaccine, only of

918
01:24:49,199 --> 01:24:50,639
the triple vaccine.

919
01:24:50,639 --> 01:24:56,880
So my feeling is that we need to review
vaccination policy across the board, but i...

920
01:25:04,639 --> 01:25:09,000
into their single measles mumps and rubella.

921
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,559
I just cannot imagine what it will be like if
we really do face a future in which half

922
01:25:13,559 --> 01:25:16,239
the children born end up on the autism
spectrum.

923
01:25:16,239 --> 01:25:20,239
I mean, it will be so disruptive of the
school system, there'll be so little money...

924
01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:25,199
able to spend on the normal children to help
them, to bring them up and to educate them.

925
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:37,039
the challenge of bringing up these children
that are so sick that our society will not

926
01:25:37,039 --> 01:25:38,840
be able to focus on anything else.

927
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,760
The implications of that for our country, for
our competitiveness as a nation, for

928
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,239
our economy are massive.

929
01:25:45,239 --> 01:25:50,519
They must know, and they do know, that
there's a national emergency.

930
01:26:20,519 --> 01:26:50,319
., and we're going to have to do that.