1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,140 My name is Mark Leda, and I produce the videos that you see on my channel, Soft White Underbelly. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:10,500 Mark gets into people's stories, those living on the fringes, drug addicts, prostitutes, gang members. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,380 You've shot thousands of videos. You're super prolific. 4 00:00:13,620 --> 00:00:14,360 Four thousand so far. 5 00:00:14,460 --> 00:00:15,480 Four thousand, okay. 6 00:00:15,660 --> 00:00:18,720 I spent most of my career helping wealthy corporations become even wealthier. 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,940 I wanted to do something that mattered more in the world. 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Amanda, where are you from when you grow up? 9 00:00:22,980 --> 00:00:26,000 Do you see that you're kind of getting worse and worse every time we speak? 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,080 You're going to do whatever it takes to get your money for crack. 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,820 So if your dad and I give you a little bit of cash. 12 00:00:31,100 --> 00:00:34,260 All right, so Lima. Lima Yabramovich? 13 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:35,220 Yabramovich. 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,220 You have a company called Aura. 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,500 Amanda is the most difficult case. 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,780 We're going to be documenting exactly how we're getting Amanda into treatment. 17 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:50,720 The way that you get somebody that doesn't want to get help into treatment 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,080 is through something called an LPS conservatorship. 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,580 It feels like a betrayal to that person. 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,140 But at the same time, Amanda's in a safe place now. 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,040 She had passed away. 22 00:01:07,300 --> 00:01:10,120 It's been a really, really big shock for us. 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:31,380 When I was smoking, I'm like, in the cut, and then I'm going to get murdered. 24 00:01:31,380 --> 00:01:35,440 Like, you know what I'm saying, I'm behind the scenes, I'm annoying everybody, and then 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,160 I get murdered. 26 00:01:37,700 --> 00:01:44,340 And I don't want no girl close to my age doing my thoughts and video gaming me, so, nah, I'm 27 00:01:44,340 --> 00:01:45,180 not feeling it. 28 00:01:45,180 --> 00:01:53,400 Sometime in February, I was on the internet, definitely not minding my own business, and 29 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:58,580 someone told me, this guy, you know, you vaguely remember from your childhood, Bam Margera. 30 00:01:58,580 --> 00:01:59,720 I'm Bam Margera. 31 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,300 An actor from Jackass. 32 00:02:01,300 --> 00:02:04,320 And I feel like kicking my dad's ass all day today. 33 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,740 Is in a conservatorship. 34 00:02:08,740 --> 00:02:17,040 So, yeah, he's in a program, um, and the good thing is now is, uh, he's got, like, he's 35 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,020 under a conservatorship. 36 00:02:18,740 --> 00:02:20,340 And I went to the media. 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,340 The last person I left is Dr. Phil, or else I give up. 38 00:02:23,460 --> 00:02:27,580 It was unidentified callers, whenever the callers were clearly identified. 39 00:02:28,020 --> 00:02:32,700 I went there thinking I was going to do 30 days, but they insisted that I do 90 days. 40 00:02:33,460 --> 00:02:35,060 You're not going to find anything in the media. 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,540 And again, like, I had to go to the court document. 42 00:02:37,540 --> 00:02:43,520 Searched in Pinellas County, found and confirmed that Bam was in some type of conservatorship. 43 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:46,680 It was sealed, but some information was available. 44 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:51,820 Having bipolar disorder, taking Adderall, none of those are reasons for conservatorship. 45 00:02:51,940 --> 00:02:57,180 One of those things was the name Lima Takali Yavremovich as the petitioner. 46 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,040 The petitioner on a conservatorship is usually the person who wants to be the conservator. 47 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,760 But again, it was sealed, so we have no 100% way of knowing whether it was Lima. 48 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:14,000 I can say with certainty now, Lima was this guardian in a Maricopa County conservatorship. 49 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,580 So the next thing was Googling her to see if I could find any information out on her. 50 00:03:18,580 --> 00:03:36,780 One of the very first results that came up for Lima was her appearance on a YouTube channel called Soft White Underbelly. 51 00:03:36,860 --> 00:03:41,320 Now, this YouTube channel is run by a photographer called Mark Lata. 52 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,680 Basically, what I was able to figure out is he interviews people, mainly in the skid row area. 53 00:03:46,820 --> 00:03:49,120 A lot of the people who he interviews are without homes. 54 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,480 They often struggle with substance use issues, dependence, etc. 55 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,080 You know, people say, oh, what you're doing is exploitive all the time. 56 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:12,840 Look, a hotel, the hotel I'm staying at while I'm here in Tampa, they're exploiting my need to sleep. 57 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,540 The restaurant that I had breakfast at is exploiting my hunger. 58 00:04:17,420 --> 00:04:18,460 Everything is exploitive. 59 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,420 Yes, they're exploitive. 60 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:26,280 If I take a drug addict and I do an interview with her, she takes the hit because she's been made to look bad. 61 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:28,020 Now, I didn't trick her into doing that. 62 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:34,780 She came to me or I might have asked her and said, you know, but I tell everybody right up front, like, this is going to be on YouTube. 63 00:04:34,980 --> 00:04:36,600 How much drug addiction can you actually watch? 64 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,560 You know, it's like something. 65 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,400 But people love those. 66 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,060 You put up a female, attractive female heroin addict, that'll get a lot of views. 67 00:04:43,100 --> 00:04:44,060 So it's all that. 68 00:04:44,060 --> 00:04:45,280 Let me just get this straight. 69 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:56,540 I'm doing this for myself. 70 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,920 I'm not doing it for anybody else. 71 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,180 I'm not trying to make anybody happy. 72 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:01,220 Some people say, oh, I hate these Appalachian people. 73 00:05:01,420 --> 00:05:02,220 Stop doing that. 74 00:05:02,500 --> 00:05:03,820 Get back to the drug addicts. 75 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:05,520 And other people say these Appalachian things are great. 76 00:05:05,580 --> 00:05:06,220 That's all I watch. 77 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,140 I don't give a fuck. 78 00:05:09,420 --> 00:05:11,180 I've been a photographer since I was 14. 79 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:15,380 And I spent most of my career doing advertising work. 80 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,620 So I'm basically making, helping wealthy corporations become even wealthier. 81 00:05:20,540 --> 00:05:23,880 And that became, I realized as I got older, that was my legacy. 82 00:05:24,060 --> 00:05:26,120 And I didn't feel comfortable with that. 83 00:05:26,180 --> 00:05:28,400 So I wanted to do something that mattered more in the world. 84 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:32,100 It's not to help the addict that's outside my door. 85 00:05:32,220 --> 00:05:33,060 Even though I've done that. 86 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:34,020 I've done that many times. 87 00:05:34,020 --> 00:05:38,120 I've spent, over the last 10 years, I've talked with about 1,000 people. 88 00:05:38,260 --> 00:05:43,880 And I've, financially, I've probably spent $150,000. 89 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,440 I've helped some addicts. 90 00:05:45,900 --> 00:05:47,420 That's a personal thing I do. 91 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,740 It has nothing to do with this channel. 92 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,880 I'm just showing you some things that are wrong with the country. 93 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,980 And so Lima was on Mark Leita's channel. 94 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:58,600 I give the doctors the tools to see. 95 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:04,340 So if you tell me you're fine, and I look and I can see that you're not fine, addicts 96 00:06:04,340 --> 00:06:06,140 are master manipulators. 97 00:06:06,420 --> 00:06:08,040 And I was like, well, this is strange. 98 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:14,420 Why is Bam Margera's conservator on Mark Leita's channel talking about virtual reality? 99 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:20,220 We also use virtual reality so we can put patients in triggering environments. 100 00:06:20,220 --> 00:06:25,540 So she talks about her company, Aura, which is a digital health startup. 101 00:06:25,780 --> 00:06:29,300 But essentially what the startup does is uses virtual reality goggles on people with drug 102 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:29,600 addiction. 103 00:06:29,780 --> 00:06:37,560 And I quickly, quickly discover that Lima and Mark had teamed up to help one of Mark's subjects. 104 00:06:38,500 --> 00:06:40,960 Lima ended up being in charge of this subject's life. 105 00:06:41,460 --> 00:06:45,760 And now this subject, whose name is Amanda Rabb, was dead. 106 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:52,140 I start looking into Lima and turns out this is not her only and first startup. 107 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:54,700 She had some company, at least one, maybe two. 108 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,380 It seemed like the type of program you could do to shorten your jail time or something. 109 00:06:58,540 --> 00:07:00,560 And that's all I was able to tell factually. 110 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:06,400 Now, what I can speculate is that Lima was looking for a targeted group of test subjects. 111 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,600 And prisoners seem easy, right? 112 00:07:08,660 --> 00:07:11,140 She could have easily gotten government funding if she was helping prisoners. 113 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,460 So that didn't work. 114 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,120 I don't know why. 115 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,100 That was just my assumption. 116 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:16,160 And then you see Aura. 117 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:17,860 All right. 118 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:18,280 So Lima. 119 00:07:18,540 --> 00:07:20,660 Lima Yemramovich? 120 00:07:21,020 --> 00:07:21,740 Yemramovich. 121 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,760 You have a company called Aura. 122 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:26,500 And what do you guys do? 123 00:07:26,980 --> 00:07:29,060 So we're all about data-driven healing. 124 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,780 Our goal is to use technology to scale affordable, high-quality treatment services. 125 00:07:34,780 --> 00:07:41,020 We also use virtual reality so we can put patients in triggering environments. 126 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:47,280 And, you know, for example, we put a patient in a bar. 127 00:07:47,540 --> 00:07:49,620 Walking VIP, don't need no drink. 128 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:50,600 Sickest buddy. 129 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,040 Or we put it, or for our veterans, we put them in a war zone. 130 00:07:56,460 --> 00:07:58,420 They're just not willing to let someone in. 131 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:01,100 So you kind of have to find a way to gain their trust. 132 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,640 Lima kept mentioning a woman named Amanda. 133 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,660 Amanda is the most difficult case. 134 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:09,940 We're going to be documenting exactly how we're getting Amanda into treatment. 135 00:08:09,940 --> 00:08:12,960 Something else has happened with Amanda that kind of helped, right? 136 00:08:13,420 --> 00:08:13,760 Yes. 137 00:08:14,220 --> 00:08:15,060 She ended up in jail. 138 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:15,800 Exactly. 139 00:08:16,140 --> 00:08:21,840 Once I figured out that there were like 15 or 16 different videos in this Amanda, Lima, 140 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,800 Mark Leita series of events, I began to watch them in order. 141 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,180 My first question was, who is this Amanda person Lima keeps referencing? 142 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,300 Because I had never seen Soft White Underbelly before. 143 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:35,880 I didn't watch the channel. 144 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:45,860 So on December 14th, 2019, the first video of Amanda appears on Soft White Underbelly. 145 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,340 She says a number of things in that first video. 146 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:55,160 First of all, she off the bat calls her father a molester and says that is the reason why she 147 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,460 had to move out from living with her father. 148 00:08:57,660 --> 00:09:03,360 Now, Amanda is introduced to us as a homeless prostitute, but she explains her homelessness 149 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,440 situation in those first appearances on Soft White Underbelly. 150 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,120 No, I didn't have a mom growing up, so it was just me and my father. 151 00:09:13,380 --> 00:09:17,180 I had to move to my mom's family's house, so I grew up with them. 152 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,280 I just went with them. 153 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,740 It was just a better situation. 154 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,880 Any problems with that? 155 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:21,760 No. 156 00:09:23,820 --> 00:09:24,700 Tell me about your family. 157 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:25,600 You grew up with both of your parents. 158 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,720 Yeah, I grew up with my auntie and uncle. 159 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,660 So, they took me in because I was with my dad. 160 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,060 He turned out to be a molester. 161 00:09:32,700 --> 00:09:33,900 So, his wife left him. 162 00:09:35,060 --> 00:09:37,140 She says she used to live with her father. 163 00:09:37,420 --> 00:09:39,220 She says her mother is dead. 164 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,360 She says her father was a molester. 165 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,980 So, she moved in with her aunt and uncle. 166 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,900 And now, today, she could live with her father, who does have an apartment, but he's a molester. 167 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,620 She says those things. 168 00:09:50,620 --> 00:09:57,580 Now, this is important because later on in this series of videos over the course of months and years, 169 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,880 Amanda Rab's father would make an appearance as the savior of Amanda. 170 00:10:02,260 --> 00:10:07,940 During one such domicile situation, he attempted to put her in a conservatorship. 171 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:14,700 Amanda does come across, just generally in these videos, to the average viewer. 172 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:23,840 Most likely as crazy, unhinged, very paranoid, rambling, and perhaps unable to, like, share 173 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,920 a reality, right, with the person she's talking to. 174 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,420 But I went into watching Amanda's videos with a very open mind. 175 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,200 I wanted to hear what she had to say. 176 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,800 And it was traumatic and painful for me to even watch the videos. 177 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:45,860 So, I don't even pretend to know what it must have felt like for Amanda to be in these videos. 178 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:51,840 But, I mean, she talked a lot about things that people would immediately write someone off for talking about. 179 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,760 She talked about there being electronic versions of herself running around Skid Row, 180 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:05,240 which sounds crazy until you see that the treatment that she would later be subjected to against her will 181 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,080 would be, in fact, a virtual reality version of Skid Row. 182 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:15,440 So, she would have an avatar in the world, so there would be electronic versions of her running around Skid Row. 183 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:21,160 There's different me's running around here electronic, and I want to know who is doing that. 184 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,380 What the fuck? 185 00:11:22,620 --> 00:11:23,540 You need to stop. 186 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:25,360 Oh my god! 187 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,620 When I was smoking, I'm like, in the cut, and then I'm gonna get murdered. 188 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Like, you know what I'm saying? 189 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,400 I'm behind the scenes, I'm annoying everybody, and then I get murdered. 190 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,900 So, over the course of the videos, Amanda appears several times and is interviewed. 191 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,880 She becomes kind of a repeat player on the Soft White Underbelly channel, 192 00:11:42,020 --> 00:11:45,280 and each time she appears to be in a slightly different physical condition. 193 00:11:45,460 --> 00:11:49,020 Now, it does appear as though Amanda's physical condition does get worse. 194 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,580 She loses teeth, she seems to lose weight. 195 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:57,280 Mark Leita begins to drop clues in his videos about his intervention in Amanda's life. 196 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:06,060 I feel uncomfortable, the guy videotaping me right now is making me feel like he regrets helping me right now, so... 197 00:12:06,060 --> 00:12:07,000 I don't regret helping you. 198 00:12:08,660 --> 00:12:09,960 I would love to help you. 199 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,220 You're lucky to have the dad you do. 200 00:12:13,340 --> 00:12:13,700 Yeah. 201 00:12:14,020 --> 00:12:19,580 Your family and I, and a few other people that have known you in the past, are trying to help you. 202 00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:21,120 No, they're not. 203 00:12:21,860 --> 00:12:22,660 Yes, we are. 204 00:12:23,060 --> 00:12:23,680 Oh, okay. 205 00:12:24,540 --> 00:12:25,300 Yes, we are. 206 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:30,460 There's different me's running around here, electronic, and I want to know who is doing that. 207 00:12:30,620 --> 00:12:31,800 You need to stop. 208 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,640 He says things like, he brings Amanda clothes, or he'll try to come and talk to Amanda, 209 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,200 and Amanda admits in these videos to running away from Mark. 210 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,100 Mark also says something along the lines of, 211 00:12:41,460 --> 00:12:47,380 you know, Amanda, dad and I give you money because we know that you will do whatever you need to do 212 00:12:47,380 --> 00:12:51,940 and whatever it takes to get money for crack, and we don't want you to have to expose yourself to all that. 213 00:12:51,940 --> 00:13:00,540 So, in my opinion, that is Mark Leita admittedly financially enabling a woman who he knows to be suffering with a crack addiction 214 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:03,060 with money in order to buy crack. 215 00:13:03,140 --> 00:13:07,720 Your dad and I give you money to avoid you doing more dangerous things for your addiction 216 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,620 that you're not going to, you're going to do whatever it takes to get your money for crack. 217 00:13:10,620 --> 00:13:13,300 So, if your dad and I give you a little bit of cash. 218 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,300 Now, not all of Mark's subjects are repeat players. 219 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,200 Not all of them come back. 220 00:13:18,300 --> 00:13:19,740 It seems to me most of them do not. 221 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:25,640 Amanda came back and appeared on Mark Leita's Soft White Underbelly on March 1st, 2020. 222 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,600 Because I was out of my day, he turned out to be a molester, so his wife left him. 223 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,280 She appeared again for a third interview on April 15th, 2020. 224 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,700 Amanda, do you see that you're kind of getting worse and worse every time we speak? 225 00:13:39,900 --> 00:13:48,960 Then on May 30th, we have Lima doing another YouTube collaboration, this time with a YouTuber named 16leo. 226 00:13:49,220 --> 00:13:52,100 This video is in collaboration with 16leo. 227 00:13:52,300 --> 00:13:54,380 How exactly does DID happen? 228 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:58,760 So, is Aura a result of you trying to help out your sisters? 229 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:07,680 Yes, actually, Aura was bloomed from a desire to help my sisters, but it also exists to better treatment for all mental health illnesses. 230 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:17,760 Now, Lima would go on to make various YouTube appearances, and she would talk mostly and predominantly about Aura and her technology. 231 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:25,040 Hi, I'm Lemia Gromovich, and I'm the founder of Autonomous User Rehabilitation Agent, or Aura for sure. 232 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,720 She would use the same talking points on each one. 233 00:14:29,020 --> 00:14:33,000 If we put more services, more funding behind mental health services. 234 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,900 Kind of seemed like a PR marketing strategy to me. 235 00:14:36,060 --> 00:14:40,320 So, she would say things like, you know, insurance doesn't cover enough days in rehab. 236 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,380 They go to treatment for 30 days because that's what insurance will cover. 237 00:14:44,580 --> 00:14:50,760 It costs about $45,000 per month for somebody to get treatment in a residential facility. 238 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,040 It's very expensive, but the relapse rate is 90%. 239 00:14:54,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Insurance companies are saying, we're not going to fund $45,000, $45,000, $45,000 when you have such a high relapse rate. 240 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,640 If she wasn't cash paying, she would have been released in two days from that video. 241 00:15:05,780 --> 00:15:15,140 So, she had the same kind of talking points over and over, and she had this virtual reality program that she was marketing to people with substance use disorder, is what she calls it. 242 00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:28,660 So, by July, Lima already knew about Amanda and was working in concert with Amanda's father, who she called a molester, and Mark Leyta, who was paying her, admittedly knowing to go buy crack with. 243 00:15:28,660 --> 00:15:33,640 And they all conspired to make sure that Amanda went to jail. 244 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,100 This is what happened. 245 00:15:37,020 --> 00:15:39,180 Larry Rabb called Mark Leyta. 246 00:15:42,060 --> 00:15:42,960 Hello, Mark. 247 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,920 Yes, yes, Mark Leyta here. 248 00:15:45,020 --> 00:15:45,660 Well, how can I help you? 249 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,180 Yes, Amanda assaulted me. 250 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,160 What do I do? 251 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,460 Mark Leyta says, oh, you should definitely call the police and get her in jail because that's the only way we're going to be able to help her. 252 00:15:53,460 --> 00:15:55,380 Oh, okay, I'll do that. 253 00:15:55,460 --> 00:15:56,040 Thank you, Mark. 254 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:56,560 Okay, cool. 255 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,120 Let me know how it goes. 256 00:15:57,220 --> 00:15:57,560 Okay, bye. 257 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:58,460 Okay, bye. 258 00:15:58,740 --> 00:15:59,980 So, basically, that happened. 259 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,960 So, then Larry calls 911, calls the police. 260 00:16:02,060 --> 00:16:02,780 Amanda gets put in jail. 261 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:03,200 Now, listen. 262 00:16:03,340 --> 00:16:06,040 This is, do not take this as me excusing criminal activity. 263 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:06,640 I do not. 264 00:16:07,340 --> 00:16:18,940 We have a criminal justice system for a reason, and it is based on innocence until proven guilty and fundamental principles like due process of law, being able to hire your own lawyer, 265 00:16:18,940 --> 00:16:24,460 not having or being coerced to testify against yourself. 266 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,320 So, for the criminal justice system, we have a system. 267 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,440 It could be better. 268 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:35,660 It could be refined and reformed, but I do believe in it, and I do think that when you commit crimes, 269 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:44,340 and especially when those crimes are harming other people physically, you should have to deal in some capacity with the criminal justice system. 270 00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:49,060 So, this assault happened in context of a lot of other moving parts, all right? 271 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:55,160 And I would prefer if you just please keep an open mind, stay with me till the end of the story, because I think you might think something different at the end of it. 272 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,120 So, we have Lima ramping up her social media activity, right? 273 00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:02,080 She's doing Disociated, huge YouTubers. 274 00:17:02,220 --> 00:17:04,540 I consider myself being part of a DID system. 275 00:17:04,940 --> 00:17:05,820 My name is Sally. 276 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:06,820 My name is Nina. 277 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,200 My name is Jade. 278 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:09,580 My name is Mara. 279 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,500 Hello, everybody. 280 00:17:10,740 --> 00:17:11,400 This is Chloe. 281 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,580 Welcome back to another video by Disociated. 282 00:17:13,580 --> 00:17:16,220 And today, I have Lima here with me. 283 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:21,980 Lima got Disociated, who has a million subscribers, on Lima's channel as her first YouTube video ever. 284 00:17:22,180 --> 00:17:22,840 Oh, my God. 285 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:23,880 Hi, everyone. 286 00:17:24,220 --> 00:17:28,380 So, I work in mixed reality and mental health. 287 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Today, you're here to talk about it with me. 288 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:30,560 Exactly. 289 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:31,380 Yeah. 290 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:38,360 Lima's doing some really, really exciting things that I think is really going to change the future of mental health and how we treat it, 291 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:42,340 especially in inpatient therapy and speaking with doctors. 292 00:17:42,340 --> 00:17:44,300 You've got a lot of people on board. 293 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,720 And I really think that what you're doing can make a big difference. 294 00:17:47,860 --> 00:17:48,460 Hi, everyone. 295 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,880 Welcome to my first video with Chloe from Disociated. 296 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,680 16 Leo, huge YouTuber. 297 00:17:54,820 --> 00:17:55,280 All right, Lima. 298 00:17:55,420 --> 00:17:56,760 Let me ask you a few questions. 299 00:17:57,540 --> 00:17:57,720 Yeah. 300 00:17:57,820 --> 00:18:00,800 Can you explain Disociative Identity Disorder? 301 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,520 Disociative Identity Disorder or DID was previously called Multiple Personality Disorder. 302 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,980 She's getting a YouTube channel. 303 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:14,820 Her sisters also are YouTubers who Lima has taken over their social media accounts and is advertising Aura. 304 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:23,640 If you go to Lima's website, meetara.io, you will see under her pressed or whatever tab that she still has Amanda up and is advertising using Amanda. 305 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:24,180 Amanda's dead. 306 00:18:24,180 --> 00:18:37,100 And also on her website, she has a whole section on a step-by-step procedural process, how you can put your family member into a conservatorship or take over their rights, just like she did to Amanda. 307 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:44,880 So step one on Aura's website, Lima's website, is conservatorship or jail. 308 00:18:45,540 --> 00:18:47,420 Step two is detox. 309 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,220 Step three, I don't know. 310 00:18:48,300 --> 00:18:52,360 I just, I never really stopped being flabbergasted by conservatorship or jail. 311 00:18:52,560 --> 00:19:01,760 So she's telling you in the open, out in the open, that her tactics involve putting someone into a conservatorship or jail. 312 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:02,340 Okay? 313 00:19:02,340 --> 00:19:10,680 So if you watched the Bam Margera video, you might have said something like, well, how do you know Bam wasn't trying to escape court-ordered treatment? 314 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,440 Well, how do you know he didn't choose court-ordered treatment over jail? 315 00:19:13,580 --> 00:19:14,560 He might have. 316 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:21,320 Because Lima's MO is to force somebody to choose between a conservatorship under her or jail under jail. 317 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:24,300 And I guess most people don't know what a conservatorship is. 318 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:31,740 Lima was telling everyone, these homes, these rehab facilities are so nice, she would go there for a vacation. 319 00:19:31,740 --> 00:19:33,660 It's like a luxury facility. 320 00:19:33,820 --> 00:19:34,840 You get to play games. 321 00:19:35,220 --> 00:19:39,000 Anybody would choose that over jail if that's the two options they were given. 322 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,000 But that is not the reality and that is not what happened. 323 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:47,840 So Lima, Mark, and Larry get Amanda put in jail in Los Angeles. 324 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:50,760 While she's in jail, Lima visits her. 325 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:53,640 And they talk about the conservatorship, getting out, whatever, whatever. 326 00:19:53,640 --> 00:20:04,280 August 1st, so that means after Amanda was put in jail, Lima shows up on soft white underbelly for the first time to talk about Aura. 327 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,540 Lima Jemramovich? 328 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:07,620 Jemramovich. 329 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,660 You have a company called Aura. 330 00:20:10,940 --> 00:20:12,400 And what do you guys do? 331 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,020 So we're all about data-driven healing. 332 00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:18,140 She talks about starting a scholarship program. 333 00:20:18,140 --> 00:20:21,580 Yes, so I'm actually starting the scholarship program. 334 00:20:22,180 --> 00:20:28,060 I just registered a non-profit called the Jemramovich Institute of Behavior and Brain Sciences. 335 00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:33,840 And so the reason for that is initially because I work in mental health. 336 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,240 I know the industry inside and out when it comes to insurance and facilities. 337 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,120 She is the worst starting ever. 338 00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:42,420 Yeah, I'm sorry. 339 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,340 All of the politics behind it. 340 00:20:44,340 --> 00:20:46,880 She introduces herself, introduces Aura, says what she's about. 341 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:53,340 And then she says to Mark, I'm hoping your viewers will help me to pick someone out to win an Aura scholarship. 342 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,700 They're able to attend an Aura facility. 343 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:02,340 So treatment centers that use our technology receive three months of residential care. 344 00:21:02,980 --> 00:21:07,300 And then after the three months of residential care, they're put into an outpatient program. 345 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:10,140 They go home so they have a little bit more freedom. 346 00:21:10,140 --> 00:21:15,040 But the home is a sober living and it's, there's a lot of sketchy sober livings out there. 347 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,080 But the ones that we work with also have the Aura technology. 348 00:21:18,740 --> 00:21:21,820 It costs about $250,000 conservatively. 349 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:27,460 And then additionally, we'll do a Go, you want to do a GoFundMe campaign for this scholarship, right? 350 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,620 That would be incredible. 351 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:34,500 And then we'll choose somebody to be decided later that you think would be a good candidate for this? 352 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,320 Absolutely. 353 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,060 This is after Amanda was in jail. 354 00:21:38,140 --> 00:21:40,160 She might have been in jail during the filming of this. 355 00:21:40,260 --> 00:21:42,140 That'll be somebody that I've interviewed on my channel. 356 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,040 Exactly, exactly. 357 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,700 And we can do updates with that person. 358 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,220 I wish you the best of luck with it. 359 00:21:47,580 --> 00:21:47,820 Yeah. 360 00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:48,500 And so. 361 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,460 Sounds incredible. 362 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:57,240 Well, I'd love to work with you to fill in the first scholarship person from one of the people that you've interviewed. 363 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:57,580 Oh, that could be very exciting. 364 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,480 That would be awesome. 365 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,040 We can do an update for your guests. 366 00:22:00,180 --> 00:22:00,620 Yeah, of course. 367 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,200 Yeah, absolutely. 368 00:22:01,580 --> 00:22:01,940 All right. 369 00:22:01,940 --> 00:22:10,020 They didn't think anybody was going to put the timeline together because they would later tell us, and I'll admit in the open, and I have this clip, that they worked together using Lima's expertise. 370 00:22:10,260 --> 00:22:11,160 Lima already had the papers. 371 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:12,220 Lima already had the stuff ready. 372 00:22:12,340 --> 00:22:13,560 They all worked together. 373 00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:17,040 And I thank you, Mark, for introducing me to Lima and Ivan. 374 00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:18,660 What a blessing. 375 00:22:19,380 --> 00:22:21,240 Yeah, and then along comes Lima. 376 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:30,780 On August 1st, Lima comes on Soft White Underbelly for the first time, saying she's going to start a scholarship program, saying the viewers are going to help her pick who's going to be the one getting the scholarship and all of that. 377 00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:34,980 You want to do a GoFundMe campaign for this scholarship. 378 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,720 We'll choose somebody to be decided later that you think would be a good candidate for this? 379 00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:41,540 Absolutely. 380 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,040 But certainly already knows who she's going to be picking. 381 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,940 Yeah, and so... 382 00:22:46,940 --> 00:22:47,460 Sounds incredible. 383 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:54,780 Well, I'd love to work with you to fill in the first scholarship person from one of the people that you've interviewed. 384 00:22:54,780 --> 00:22:55,580 Oh, that could be very exciting. 385 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,500 That would be awesome. 386 00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:00,020 And then August 30th, the end of the month, she's talking about treatment plans. 387 00:23:00,220 --> 00:23:02,060 And we talked long and hard about who it could be. 388 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,960 And there's lots of people that are good candidates. 389 00:23:04,140 --> 00:23:09,000 And I also asked for comments from your viewers of who they wanted. 390 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:09,400 Right. 391 00:23:09,420 --> 00:23:09,640 Right? 392 00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:12,080 Because the funding is coming from the viewers. 393 00:23:12,660 --> 00:23:13,760 We want to listen to them. 394 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,220 And we had an overwhelming response. 395 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:18,840 We can save Amanda's life. 396 00:23:18,980 --> 00:23:20,560 She does not want to go to treatment. 397 00:23:20,780 --> 00:23:21,660 She doesn't want help. 398 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:28,040 The same day, while all that's going on, Mark Leita has the audacity to upload a whole nother interview with Amanda. 399 00:23:28,180 --> 00:23:30,700 I guess he figured, like, I should just do another interview with Amanda. 400 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,140 I don't know. 401 00:23:31,260 --> 00:23:31,580 Whoever. 402 00:23:32,420 --> 00:23:33,400 You're cuter than cute. 403 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,200 They really need to look at me. 404 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,920 You're so cute. 405 00:23:34,980 --> 00:23:36,460 I wish you could get clean and stay clean. 406 00:23:36,460 --> 00:23:38,740 I just wanted to show off my new hairstyles. 407 00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:39,920 Name Michael. 408 00:23:40,180 --> 00:23:41,160 Take off that silly wig. 409 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,900 And, uh... 410 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:43,580 Take it off. 411 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,680 There's a lot of people that have amazing bodies. 412 00:23:46,980 --> 00:23:47,980 It's called the crack diet. 413 00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:52,240 You guys pulled a fast one on me. 414 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:53,700 So... 415 00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:57,160 And I don't want no girl close to my age doing my thoughts. 416 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,160 And... 417 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,160 Video gaming me, so... 418 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,700 She says, among other very disturbing things, 419 00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:10,080 I don't want no girl close to my age doing my thoughts and video gaming me. 420 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,280 So, nah. 421 00:24:11,860 --> 00:24:13,100 I'm not feeling that. 422 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,220 But I am thankful. 423 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,800 She was already in jail when that video aired, 424 00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:21,360 which means she probably knew someone was going to try to video game her 425 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:25,060 and do her thoughts in a virtual reality skid row. 426 00:24:25,060 --> 00:24:27,040 And she was uncomfortable with that. 427 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:27,880 And she said, nah. 428 00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:28,860 I don't want that. 429 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,920 Nah, I'm not feeling it. 430 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:36,040 And she wouldn't consent to letting Lima video game her. 431 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:42,500 Larry, Mark, and Lima conspired to force her. 432 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:48,840 And it was easier to choose Amanda as the victim of this coerced treatment 433 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,940 because they already had Larry Rabb. 434 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,180 What do we know about Larry Rabb? 435 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,140 We know that Amanda called him a molester. 436 00:24:57,140 --> 00:25:01,140 She never had to engage with strange people as a child. 437 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,640 From daycare to school, school. 438 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:04,840 You know what I mean. 439 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,640 So, now it's just totally different. 440 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,660 I live with my dad. 441 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,100 He turned out to be a molester. 442 00:25:10,780 --> 00:25:11,860 So his wife left him. 443 00:25:12,380 --> 00:25:15,100 Whatever Amanda said about her father in that first video, 444 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,760 it's a bunch of nonsense. 445 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,440 So, I just wanted to say that. 446 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:22,840 So, I'm just a little suspicious of what's really going on here. 447 00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:25,800 On September 11th, Amanda's still in jail. 448 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,280 And Lima and Larry appear again on Soft White Underbelly. 449 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:35,860 So, if it's September 11th, 67 days ago would be probably sometime at the end of July. 450 00:25:36,140 --> 00:25:39,140 Lima comes on Soft White Underbelly for the first time August 1st. 451 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,760 And this is why we do timelines. 452 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,360 So, Larry in the September 11th Soft White Underbelly video says, 453 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:48,700 he's been trying to put Amanda Rapp into a conservatorship. 454 00:25:48,820 --> 00:25:51,020 We got a call from Mark about Lima. 455 00:25:51,580 --> 00:25:53,640 So, last week was very interesting. 456 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:56,960 That was the first week that you've been involved in Amanda's life. 457 00:25:57,020 --> 00:25:57,760 Yes, absolutely. 458 00:25:58,180 --> 00:26:00,360 And Larry, tell me what happened last week. 459 00:26:00,580 --> 00:26:02,140 Last week, early morning. 460 00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:04,040 You know, you got to be at court at 8.30. 461 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:05,020 8.30. 462 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:05,880 And Amanda's in jail. 463 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,520 Amanda, she's in jail for an assault. 464 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,780 We have to petition to try to get conservatorship. 465 00:26:11,940 --> 00:26:13,240 He sings Lima's praises. 466 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,040 Thank you, Lima. 467 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,940 You are a blessing from God. 468 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,780 And Ms. Lima shows up and petitions. 469 00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:23,000 Her appearance and her presence made the difference. 470 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,980 She was able to just walk in the court and command that attention, that respect. 471 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,020 She had the papers ready to go. 472 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,420 Amanda does get put into court-ordered treatment. 473 00:26:32,420 --> 00:26:35,820 They were unsuccessful putting her into an LPS conservatorship. 474 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,580 Thank God. 475 00:26:36,740 --> 00:26:38,560 But they just circumvented the system. 476 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,080 And the judge released Amanda into Lima's care. 477 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,800 And Lima tells us on Soft White Underbelly that she took full responsibility for Amanda's care. 478 00:26:47,380 --> 00:26:47,940 Transported. 479 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:50,820 I think they probably detoxed her in L.A. 480 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:58,160 So, October, the next month, she enters into a treatment facility called Desert Hope Treatment Center. 481 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,700 It's in Las Vegas, Nevada. 482 00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:02,620 Like Las Vegas, where it has every substance known to me. 483 00:27:02,820 --> 00:27:05,920 But it was an Aura treatment facility. 484 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:13,300 And Lima tells us that Amanda's plan is going to include virtual reality exposure therapy. 485 00:27:15,220 --> 00:27:19,300 I'm Brennan Spiegel, director of health services research for Cedars-Sinai. 486 00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:23,540 I could not disambiguate this virtual reality from real reality. 487 00:27:23,660 --> 00:27:25,760 Everything's down to the high level of detail. 488 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,340 So, you can even see the track marks on the person's arm right here. 489 00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:34,500 And I realized at that moment that this was a technology that can overwhelm the mind. 490 00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:35,520 And it could be used for evil. 491 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:45,860 The virtual reality that Dr. Phil and Jay McGraw have created to help people when they get out of treatment is incredible. 492 00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:49,020 I do think you can turn this around. 493 00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:53,860 And I have some thoughts about this. 494 00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:55,900 I asked some people to come here today. 495 00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:58,240 You all know what virtual reality is, right? 496 00:27:58,940 --> 00:28:04,360 When you put on goggles and wherever you look, you feel like you are right there in the moment. 497 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:11,280 I've created a virtual reality tool to help that transition go smoothly and prepare for triggers. 498 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,880 Because I know people can be stars in rehab. 499 00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:15,600 It's transitioning out. 500 00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:19,800 And I'm trying to create a virtual reality tool to help people do that. 501 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:25,900 It's just a new way of tweaking the mind to become sort of super better in essence. 502 00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:36,700 Virtual reality exposure therapy, Lima, says it is unethical and illegal to put the drug of choice in front of someone who you are treating in a residential treatment facility. 503 00:28:36,820 --> 00:28:45,320 For example, if you're in a treatment facility and I put your drug of choice in front of you, that would be extremely unethical. 504 00:28:45,460 --> 00:28:46,420 It's not allowed, right? 505 00:28:46,420 --> 00:28:48,480 She said it is illegal. 506 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,000 You can use pictures, she said. 507 00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:54,840 But it's illegal and unethical and laughs. 508 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,160 That would be unethical. 509 00:28:56,540 --> 00:28:57,340 It laughs. 510 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,220 Like how funny it is that it's unethical. 511 00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:00,740 It would be extremely unethical. 512 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:01,820 It's not allowed, right? 513 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,540 There's no drugs on the premises. 514 00:29:03,540 --> 00:29:24,500 If I can put that drug of choice in front of you, just the visual of it, it's not the same as me showing you a photo, but being able to put you in a room through our virtual reality technology, being able to put you in a room where you, you know, you essentially are by yourself, right? 515 00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:27,680 So now I'm able to test you because it's the power of VR. 516 00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:33,500 She said she's worked with a man who said his rock bottom is him alone on the couch with a bottle of alcohol. 517 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,540 And so she created an environment that looked like a living room and a bottle of alcohol and this man put it on. 518 00:29:38,780 --> 00:29:40,400 So I'm not saying that's illegal. 519 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:48,660 I believe it's unethical because I think showing someone a picture of a drug of choice is like a degree of extrapolation, right? 520 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,560 It's less concrete than a virtual reality simulation. 521 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,340 I think that should absolutely be federally regulated. 522 00:29:54,340 --> 00:30:01,200 That you should not be able to just toss an unconsenting person into a triggering exposure environment, but that is not what the law says right now. 523 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:10,400 So this is where we are and Lima admits to using virtual reality to trigger people with PTSD and to trigger cravings in people struggling with addiction. 524 00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:16,400 We also use virtual reality so we can put patients in triggering environments. 525 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:22,460 Amanda enters into Desert Hope Treatment Center, an Aura facility in Las Vegas, Nevada. 526 00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:31,560 Now, interestingly, Lima posted a picture of the treatment center that Amanda was supposed to go to and never corrected the record and said that's not where she was. 527 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,060 And it's not Desert Hope. 528 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:33,800 There's a lie. 529 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:39,680 And people get upset when I call Lima a liar because she has this sweet affect and she doesn't seem like evil. 530 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:46,320 She's got this nice little soft voice and she seems to be, you know, saying all the right dog whistle words. 531 00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:50,660 And she's, you know, addicts and homeless and prostitution. 532 00:30:50,980 --> 00:30:54,780 And she uses all these scary words that get you in a state of upset. 533 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,080 Oh, girl, chill out. 534 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,700 And then she offers you a solution. 535 00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:59,700 And so you're like, oh, my God, make this trauma stop. 536 00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:01,040 So she must be telling the truth. 537 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,200 I operate in one absolute thing, and that is truth. 538 00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:07,180 Lima didn't tell the truth. 539 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,680 Now we've caught her in two lies so far on the timeline. 540 00:31:09,940 --> 00:31:14,160 First of all, that the audience was somehow going to help pick Amanda. 541 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:18,560 As I've said before, she was the worst case you could find on Skid Row. 542 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,940 Yeah, definitely. 543 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,620 And probably the worst case I've ever seen personally. 544 00:31:23,860 --> 00:31:27,060 It took a lot of courage for you to decide that she was the one you wanted to try to help. 545 00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:31,280 Yeah, but, you know, we have a lot of confidence in what we do. 546 00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:32,180 That was not true. 547 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,960 Amanda was hand-chosen because they had the cooperation of Larry Rabb. 548 00:31:35,020 --> 00:31:36,000 You need a family member. 549 00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:37,680 Number two lie we've now found. 550 00:31:37,820 --> 00:31:42,020 Lima said Amanda was going to be at a treatment facility that Amanda was not at. 551 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,500 She was at Desert Hope Treatment Center. 552 00:31:44,860 --> 00:31:45,780 That is where she was. 553 00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:47,480 That is where she took her last breath. 554 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,920 It wasn't the one that Lima posted on Instagram. 555 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,920 It doesn't seem like necessary to have lied about that. 556 00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:53,800 But here we are. 557 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:59,800 And so, if y'all are upset by the word lie, maybe repeat it each day to expose your therapy yourself to it. 558 00:31:59,860 --> 00:32:00,160 I don't know. 559 00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:06,800 The end of 2021, Amanda spends in Desert Hope Treatment Center from October all the way through May when she died. 560 00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:09,400 So, except she did check out one day. 561 00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:10,080 We'll get to that. 562 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,820 January 7th, coming to an end according to Lima's 30 to 90 days. 563 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:21,520 If you entered into treatment in October, Lima told me that insurance only covers 30 to 90 days in rehab. 564 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:30,800 If Amanda entered rehab around October, January 7th, Mark Lata makes his very first Instagram post ever. 565 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,880 And it is a fundraiser for Amanda. 566 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,740 Interestingly, this is around the time that Albert Manero Jr. enters into the story. 567 00:32:40,860 --> 00:32:41,840 The people trust me. 568 00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:43,720 They know I'm one of them. 569 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,680 Just an everyday guy with a passion and a purpose. 570 00:32:46,980 --> 00:32:50,300 Albert Manero Jr. is the program director for Aura. 571 00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:54,080 But a quick Google search will show you that he is also a very prolific actor. 572 00:32:54,260 --> 00:32:55,960 Anton is a nerdapaloozer, bro. 573 00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:58,020 When chicks see him, they get dry. 574 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,420 He has been in Hollywood for at least 10 or 15 years. 575 00:33:00,540 --> 00:33:02,300 We're back with my new buddy, Albert. 576 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,940 Who's looking for me to help him get relationship ready. 577 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,740 What do you think a woman is thinking when she walks in to see your dirty draw sunny side up on the floor? 578 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,540 Haven't had any here for a while. 579 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,880 The goal is to get some here. 580 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,600 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 581 00:33:15,620 --> 00:33:16,580 So I want you to keep that in mind. 582 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:16,820 Okay. 583 00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:18,020 No, no undies on the floor. 584 00:33:18,020 --> 00:33:18,560 Okay, okay. 585 00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:20,080 I don't know what to say. 586 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,120 Something's wrong with his mind. 587 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:21,320 Okay. 588 00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:21,900 So what? 589 00:33:21,980 --> 00:33:23,320 Does he even know what he was turning on? 590 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,880 This is not a tag team event. 591 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,240 One of you speaks and the other doesn't. 592 00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:28,280 And that's how it works. 593 00:33:28,420 --> 00:33:30,180 And by courtroom, you are under oath. 594 00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:32,820 Which means you do not lie. 595 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,540 And you tell the truth. 596 00:33:34,540 --> 00:33:39,200 He's appeared in Lima Yvremovich's twin sister's YouTube videos. 597 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,320 He's appeared in Instagram stories of Bam Margera's wife, Nikki. 598 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,420 Bam Margera's brother-in-law has featured Albert Manera Jr. on his channel. 599 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,680 But he also happens to be the program director of Aura. 600 00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:55,380 In January, when Mark Leyta was posting on Instagram trying to raise funds for Amanda's treatment. 601 00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,540 It's also the same month Albert Manera Jr. would have met Amanda. 602 00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:08,840 Amanda, you coming into my life had such a humongous effect that I could never have known when I first met you. 603 00:34:09,020 --> 00:34:17,760 March 2021, Lima goes on the Meet Aura Instagram account and announces that her twin sisters both allegedly have dissociative identity disorder. 604 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,960 Not sure how that's telling us that. 605 00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:23,880 My sisters who are identical twins have had some mental health struggles. 606 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:30,520 They were diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder, which is more commonly known as multiple personality disorder. 607 00:34:30,940 --> 00:34:39,620 In February, Lima announces on her Meet Aura Instagram account that her sisters will start using Aura technology in March 2021. 608 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:47,800 So March 2021, the sisters are being used as guinea pigs for the Aura virtual reality exposure therapy. 609 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:59,360 She credits them with being the reason why she even knows about all this stuff in the first place because her sisters have been in and out of behavioral health centers and inpatient, outpatient, whatever. 610 00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:02,920 So she says that's how she learned how to navigate the whole system of it all. 611 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:10,100 April, the next month, Lima is in Las Vegas, which is where Amanda went to rehab and where Amanda was in rehab still at the time. 612 00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:18,580 April 2021, and then Lima posts a video on Aura's Instagram that shows Amanda using the virtual reality exposure therapy. 613 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,020 Oh my God! 614 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:20,680 Amanda. 615 00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:22,260 Oh! 616 00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:24,860 What the fuck? 617 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:25,860 Oh! 618 00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:29,720 Oh my God! 619 00:35:30,380 --> 00:35:30,760 Amanda. 620 00:35:31,180 --> 00:35:32,660 There's a bottle of alcohol. 621 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,800 It's Skid Row. 622 00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:35,480 You're kind of in the headset with her. 623 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:47,300 As if that's not dystopian enough, when you peer up on the virtual reality, you see a billboard of Bam and Nikki Margera on the side of a virtual reality building. 624 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:51,020 And it's like, thanks for backing our company, blah, blah, whatever, whatever. 625 00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:55,140 So Bam and Nikki Margera, you probably know them from Jackass. 626 00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:05,380 They were so moved by Amanda's story that they pledged to help support this publicly and help me fundraise for Amanda and for the scholarship to help raise more money. 627 00:36:05,380 --> 00:36:16,800 So in order to say thank you to them, our team has a bunch of virtual cities inside our virtual reality system. 628 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,700 So we made a billboard for them, and that was on the Skid Row experience that we put Amanda in. 629 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:29,840 Same month, Lima posts again on Instagram thanking Bam and his wife Nikki for supporting Aura. 630 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,440 And then on April 17th, Lima posts another video on the Aura YouTube applying for grants. 631 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,160 In January, they were asking audience for money. 632 00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:39,500 He had two GoFundMes going. 633 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,320 I think maybe three were going in total. 634 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,300 I think that she probably was trying to get money from Bam and Nikki. 635 00:36:44,460 --> 00:36:52,560 And that brings into question whether that is ethical or appropriate for someone who is basically an investor in your business, 636 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,840 and now you put them under a conservatorship. 637 00:36:54,840 --> 00:37:00,720 Like, I don't know about the actual laws behind that, but that doesn't seem appropriate, 638 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:07,640 that you could be someone's guardian or conservator, and they have purchased a stake in your business. 639 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:14,300 So all that's going on in April, and then wouldn't you know, May 9th, Mother's Day, last year, 2021, 640 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:23,320 Amanda Rabb was found dead in her bed, face down, in a messy, disheveled room at like 9.30 in the morning. 641 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,000 They did the autopsy. 642 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,760 They looked at her medical records. 643 00:37:31,940 --> 00:37:34,660 And so I'm just going to read it word for word of what we got. 644 00:37:35,340 --> 00:37:38,920 The cause of death was marked as a seizure disorder. 645 00:37:39,380 --> 00:37:40,640 What the fuck? 646 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,640 Myself and the investigation team have requested Amanda's autopsy report. 647 00:37:46,640 --> 00:38:03,820 The cause of death. 648 00:38:03,820 --> 00:38:04,700 Was there a make in the law? 649 00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:04,920 The cause of death. 650 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:04,960 The cause of death. 651 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,180 The cause of death. 652 00:38:05,180 --> 00:38:05,900 The cause of death. 653 00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:07,000 The cause of death. 654 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,020 The cause of death. 655 00:38:07,020 --> 00:38:07,200 The cause of death. 656 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:07,960 The cause of death. 657 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,100 The cause of death. 658 00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:08,980 The cause of death. 659 00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:09,520 The cause of death. 660 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:09,580 The cause of death. 661 00:38:09,580 --> 00:38:10,380 Billy took the teeth. 662 00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:10,420 The cause of death. 663 00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:10,580 The cause of death. 664 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:10,900 The cause of death. 665 00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:12,060 ThUCK concerning. 666 00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:12,380 The cause of death. 667 00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:12,960 The cause of death that I believe it's also. 668 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,140 The cause of death. 669 00:38:13,140 --> 00:38:13,400 The cause of death is terrible. 670 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,460 At the cause of death, the cause of death. 671 00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:15,460 And then you, injure the cause of death.