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They live among us. They walk beside us. They're hidden and playing sites. 15 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:43,520 We like to think that Colts operate on a level underneath us, but sometimes it's quite the opposite. 16 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:51,280 In 2019, the FBI records Twitter account released a 600-page document about their investigation into the 17 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,880 finders cult. The tweet gained a massive amount of attention from modeling users and conspiracy theorists. 18 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,960 Maybe you've heard about this mysterious group from around the internet. 19 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,680 You may have even heard about some of the area practices this group was said to partaken. 20 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,880 Curious myself, I decided to look into the documents. Only to find that a lot of their 21 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:20,720 wording was redacted or blacked out. And so it began. I became interested in learning more about 22 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,840 this supposed satanic cult from the 80s. But through my research of newspaper articles, 23 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:31,520 official investigation reports and FBI documents, I honestly wasn't prepared for the mountains of 24 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:37,360 information that waited for me. It really seemed like every other source had something new for me to read. 25 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:46,080 So why isn't this talked about more? In this video, I will try to encompass my research in a 26 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,840 straightforward timeline of events. This is the story of the finders cult. 27 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,920 It was the 1980s. 28 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:26,160 Among the decades trends of arcade games, horror movies, and big hair. A growing fear was sweeping 29 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:33,440 the United States. Known as the satanic panic. To describe this story as horrifying, 30 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:38,080 would be an understatement. The rise of heavy metal music would suppose that hidden messages, 31 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,920 dungeons and dragons, and new stories about the tannic cold sand rituals taking place, 32 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:52,560 fueled the growing hysteria. The evidence is in. Satan worship and satanic cults are growing rapidly, 33 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,600 and adherence of these ideas are becoming more vocal and more dangerous. 34 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,200 But in the end, that's all this was, right? Just hysteria. 35 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:16,000 On Wednesday, February 4th, 1987, an anonymous call was made to the tele-hassy police department. 36 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,200 The call stated that too well-dressed men were seen watching over six, 37 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:26,800 dirty and unkept children, ages two to seven, at a playground in Myers Park, tele-hassy. 38 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,680 According to an official report of investigation, the children were covered with insect bites 39 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:39,600 and very dirty. Most of the children were not wearing underwear, and all the children had not been 40 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:45,280 bathed in many days. Whereas the two men were found wearing suits and ties. 41 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:53,920 Even more disturbing was their vehicle, a 1979 Dodge Van, inside the Van were maps, 42 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:01,680 books, letters, 20 floppy disks, a computer, and a mattress. 43 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:09,120 The vehicle was also described as being foul smelling, and it appeared as though all eight of them 44 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:15,040 had been living inside that Van for quite some time. The two men explained to the police that 45 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:21,200 they were the children's teachers, and that they were driving to a school for brilliant children 46 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:27,840 in Mexico. Police asked the men where the children's mothers were, to which they said, 47 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:34,240 they were being weed from their mothers. The men were arrested on multiple accounts of child abuse, 48 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,240 and all eight of them were taken into custody for further questioning. 49 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:47,360 The men identified themselves as Michael Hula-Hin, and Douglas M. M. 50 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:55,520 When questioned, the two men were initially apprehensive to communicate. Some reports claimed 51 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,920 that one of them wouldn't cooperate at all, and would enter a trans-like state. 52 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:07,120 Authorities turned their efforts to questioning the six children, and this is where things started 53 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:15,680 to get unsettling. The children were identified as Mary Hula-Hin, Max Livingston, 54 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:28,800 Benjamin Franklin, Honey B. Evans, B. B. and John Paul Hula-Hin. 55 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,760 Evidently, these were not the children's real names, because they didn't have proper names. 56 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,840 According to the police, five of the six children were uncommunicated, 57 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:48,640 and didn't seem to recognize common items or modern technology, such as typewriters, hot water, 58 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:56,480 or electricity. The six and oldest child, Mary, showed signs of sexual abuse. 59 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,640 Mary fortunately was able to communicate and give information to investigators. 60 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:09,600 Here's some of what she said. Mary confirmed that the two men were indeed their teachers. 61 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,360 However, she wasn't sure where they recently were or where they were going. 62 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,000 When asked what her last name was, she replied, which one? 63 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,840 She stated that they lived in Washington, in a house with other children and adults. 64 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,560 She and the other children mainly survived on a raw fruit and vegetable diets, but were 65 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,400 visibly malnourished and only fed as a reward for a good behavior. 66 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,800 When asked what the two men taught them, she responded with, how to play games. 67 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:47,760 She said they would receive instructions from their leader, a man known as the game caller or 68 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,720 a game leader. Later to be known as a man named Mary and Petty. 69 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:10,880 Based on what Mary said, the tele-hassy police decided to contact the DC police, 70 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,800 and in attempt to identify the six children, only to learn that they were already aware of this 71 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,080 group. Who called themselves the Finder's? 72 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,720 According to a 1987 article from the Washington Post, one of the first newspapers to publicize 73 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:32,720 this event, records from the US District Court in Washington showed that in anonymous confidential 74 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:38,720 source told authorities that the Finder's were a cult that conducted brainwashing techniques 75 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:46,480 at a Northeast Washington warehouse, and an apartment building near Glover Park. 76 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,120 This source told that being recruited by the Finder's with promises of financial reward 77 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:01,440 and sexual gratification, and of being invited by one member to explore Satanism with them. 78 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:07,600 According to the Fidavit, the source told authorities that the children were used in rituals by the 79 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:12,640 members, and though the source had never witnessed abuse of the children, the source said the 80 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:19,040 children's grandparents feared for their safety. And so, on the following Thursday and Friday, 81 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,840 Washington police rated these two areas that were given to them by this confidential police source. 82 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:30,880 Furthermore, evidence found within the seized vehicle pointed to a 90 acre Virginia farm owned by a 83 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:38,080 man named George Marion Petty. Virginia State Police were contacted to visit and search the area as well. 84 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,080 At the warehouse in Washington, police found that the windows were boarded shuts, 85 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,560 and the building was padlocked with a heart-shaped lock. Inside were newspapers and mattresses 86 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:56,880 scattered across various rooms, as if someone had lived there. On one wall were shelves with 87 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:02,240 obscure books, and on the other was a huge map of the entire world. 88 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:11,600 Most disturbingly, DC police uncovered large plastic bags filled with walled-sized photographs. 89 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:19,440 According to the US Custom Service, some of these photos were of children, similar to school photos, 90 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:25,200 naked children, children engaged in what appeared to be cult rituals, 91 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,800 involving the slaughtering of goats with three men wearing white robes, 92 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,360 and one photo in particular that showed a child in chains. 93 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:41,040 At the apartment building near Glover Park, neighbors were questioned and confirmed that two of the 94 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:47,200 photograph children lived in that building. They also explained that only women and children 95 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,960 lived there, but that they would occasionally see men visiting the house. 96 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:57,120 One woman said that the children were often so dirty that they were easy to notice. 97 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:04,160 At the Virginia Farm, neighbors reported that the often-solve bands contained children 98 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:10,080 that were brought to the farm. According to the Tampa Tribune, one of the neighbors, a woman named 99 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:16,720 Wilma Richards said, they'd be hollowing and crying all the time, like they wanted something, 100 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:22,960 or something was hurting them. Wilma also explained that when she first met Mary and Petty, 101 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:29,360 he introduced himself as a boy-scow leader. Although her and her husband were suspicious of the 102 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,520 dozen or so men and children's seen at their farm, they never found the authorities. 103 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:41,200 On Friday, February 6th, Scott Hunt, of the tele-hassy police department said, 104 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,480 it is our belief these kids were not kidnapped, but that their parents gave them away, 105 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,760 because one of the rights of passage into the satanic organization is that you have to give up 106 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,480 your rights to your children, and that the leaders of this organization can do what they want with 107 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:02,960 your children. It was around this time that a series of telephone death threats were being made 108 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:10,160 towards the six children. The calls were described as brief and untraceable. This is strange 109 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,040 because the children were transferred to a private foster home, and the police were careful to 110 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:21,360 keep their location of secrets. The Palm Beach Post reported that the authorities do not know 111 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:27,200 where the calls are originated from or how they located the children. To tell you the truth, 112 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:32,160 we didn't anticipate any death threats against six obviously very four-lord children who are 113 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:37,280 in a very sad state. The fact that we have received death threats has put us on alerts, 114 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,280 and his children are going to be guarded around the clock. 115 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:49,360 By the weekend, the story of the founders made national headlines as one of the creepiest 116 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:54,320 mysteries of the 80s. Were the founders involved in satanic rituals with children? 117 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,560 Were they instead part of a massive human trafficking ring? 118 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,800 Where are the children's parents? And what games were the founders playing? 119 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,280 The first time the children were born in the United States, 120 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,280 the first time the children were born in the United States, 121 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,280 the first time the children were born in the United States, 122 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,280 the first time the children were born in the United States, 123 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,280 the first time the children were born in the United States, 124 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,280 the first time the children were born in the United States, 125 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,280 the first time the children were born in the United States, 126 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,280 the first time the children were born in the United States, 127 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:37,280 that once the police suggested the possibility of a satanic cult, 128 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,360 the media blindly accepted it. Their story was published on the Tavich of 129 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,360 June on Monday February 9th. 130 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,280 Torel sent the police a two-page memo detailing the finest 131 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,400 activities in order to clear up any misunderstandings. 132 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:59,840 In the memo, the two men and six children were originally on their way to Braria, Kentucky, 133 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,960 where the group was to help establish a retirement community, 134 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:08,800 and where the children would be placed in school. However, this trip was delayed. 135 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,400 So the group instead went vacationing in Florida with the approval of the children's 136 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:20,160 mothers, even the founder and financial developer for this retirement home, 137 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,520 Reverend Jim Weiker, and Carl Shabley respectively, 138 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:29,360 chimed in explained that the founders were gentle people, searching for new dimensions 139 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:36,320 in lifestyles, as for the photographs found of naked children and goats being slaughtered. 140 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,720 Torel explained that there were simple innocence explanations for each. 141 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,480 First, he explained that Michael Huwahan was a stepfather to one of the children, 142 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:51,360 and the biological father to another. The photo of naked children was there because, 143 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,440 well, that's what parents tend to have. 144 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:59,520 To goats on the other hand, were already slaughtered and brought to the group's farm, 145 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,880 the men wore white robes to simply protect their clothing, 146 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,000 and thought that the children should be taught the experience. 147 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,320 Torel explained that the parents of all six children were members themselves of the 148 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:17,920 fighters. However, he also knows that many of the adult members of this group were hiding around 149 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:24,480 the country, fearing a rest. There were several reports of sightings of members in Gainesville, 150 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Miami, and Tampa. Police also reported that the mothers of the six children were in San Francisco. 151 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:40,320 As for their leader, former members explained that Mary and Pety was a retired Air Force master 152 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:46,560 surgeon. Huw in the late 1960s started the finders group. He saw that after those who were 153 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:53,440 intelligence and into the counterculture scene, he would lecture them about the new age way of living, 154 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:59,200 anyster mysticism. Mary and his followers decided to start a new generation of children 155 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:05,040 that would be raised by them instead of their parents. In reality, they were largely ignored by the 156 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:10,560 members. However, they claimed to not know anything about supposed child abuse or 157 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:19,760 Satanism taking place within the group. And just like that, the finders were seemingly 158 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:25,040 cleared of suspicion. The media and several newspapers reported on the misconception, 159 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:30,800 saying that, although the finders were strange, there was no evidence of illegal activity. 160 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:38,160 Both Huwlin and Anne-Roman were free from jail. The charges were dropped and the case was closed. 161 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:46,320 The whole event vanished from headlines as quickly as they appeared. And the finders were 162 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,160 attributed to nothing more than another instance of Satanic panic hysteria. 163 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,360 As you may have suspected, the official story given by Terrell and newspapers 164 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:12,400 did not match up or at some times conflict with the details given by official reports. 165 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:17,440 For example, Terrell claimed that the men and children were on route to Kentucky, 166 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,080 despite Huwlin and Mme themselves saying they were going to Mexico. 167 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:28,880 Furthermore, several women from the finders' cult, who claimed to be the mothers of the children, 168 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:34,480 stated that their kids were well-ticking care of. They attributed their uncapped and dirty 169 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:40,880 appearance to them just being kids. Despite the reports of malnutrition and sexual abuse. 170 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,200 Let's take a closer look at some of these official documents. To see what else was suspiciously 171 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:55,440 left out or ignored. On April 13, 1987, an official U.S. Customs report by special agents 172 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,720 Ramon J. Martinez was filed. The report mostly follows the same story published by the media. 173 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,760 An anonymous call is made about two well-dressed and six dirty and uncapped children in 174 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:11,200 Myers-Priktel Hassey. The two men are arrested and the six children are brought in for questioning. 175 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,720 Authorities are eventually led to several properties and buildings that are believed to be owned by the 176 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,920 finders. At this point, the stories begin to diverge slightly. 177 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,720 Agent Martinez comes in the contact with Detective Jim Bradley, who had already been investigating the 178 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:33,680 finders since 1985. The two inspected the apartment building first. 179 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:40,560 Where they found large amounts of clothing for toddlers, such as diapers, and toys. 180 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,440 They also uncovered documents with detailed instructions on how to obtain children, 181 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:53,440 including trading, kidnapping, purchasing, and the impregnation of finders' members. 182 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:01,200 Within a computer were teleex messages from across the country and foreign locations about 183 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:07,120 the purchasing of children. One message in particular, specifically ordered the purchase of two 184 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:15,200 children in Hong Kong to be arranged in the Chinese embassy. Other findings include an 185 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:21,680 interest in bank secrecy situations, interest in high-tech transfers to the United Kingdom, 186 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:27,440 numerous properties set to belong to the finders, an interest in terrorism and explosives, 187 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:36,720 and how to avoid law enforcement. What's strange is that they also found a detailed summary 188 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:43,440 of Hula Hinz and Amraman's arrest until a hassy. This is unusual because Hula Hinz and Amraman were 189 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:49,360 taken into custody the night before Martinez' and Bradley's investigation, and well before the 190 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:56,800 Washington Post broke the story. So, somehow, the finders were already aware of their arrest, 191 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:04,400 even before mainstream media. They were also given instructions on how to avoid police capture via 192 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:12,880 a computer network. H.M. Martinez and Detective Bradley reconnected the next day, Friday, 193 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:19,760 February 6 to investigate the warehouse on 4th streets. The warehouse contained a large library, 194 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:28,000 two kitchens, a sauna, a hot tub, and a video room. Inside the video room was something described 195 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:35,600 as an indoctrination center. Martinez goes on to report that the finders seemed capable of producing 196 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:42,800 its own videos, and that jars of urine and feces were also found. At this location, where 197 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:49,920 documents describing explicit sexual conduct between members of the finders. A large collection of 198 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:57,440 photographs were also uncovered, containing images of new children, on display, adults and children 199 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:03,920 in white sheets participating in a blood ritual, and goats being dismembered, disemboweled, 200 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:11,200 and skinned by the children. Files revealing the activities of the finders in other parts of the 201 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:23,760 world were found, including London, Germany, the Bahamas, Costa Rica, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, 202 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:34,880 Africa, and Europe. Other files described the finders' projects, such as one plant titled 203 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:41,360 Tensicon Break-In, if that wasn't disturbing enough, there also seemed to be a large amount of 204 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:49,200 information on families and child-day care organizations. According to this report, the finders would 205 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:56,000 respond to various newspaper advertisements for babysitters, tutors, etc. A member would use this 206 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,840 opportunity to learn about the habits, identity, occupation, and so on about the family. 207 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:05,920 For what purposes were unknown to the investigators, 208 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Agent Martinez concludes his report with the hope that all the information would be sorted, 209 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,240 reviewed, and logged by the Washington D.C. Metropolitan Police Department, or the MPD. 210 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:28,320 If his findings were to be true, this would be a strong case against the finders for child abuse 211 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:33,840 and international human trafficking. However, none of that would happen. 212 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:42,240 On April 2, 1987, Agent Martinez was to meet with Detective Bradley to review their findings. 213 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:50,080 However, Bradley was unavailable. A third party who was willing to speak to Martinez on an 214 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:56,960 off-the-record basis told him that the investigation into the finders had become a CIA internal 215 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:06,000 matter and was classified as secret. The FBI also withdrew from the investigation, and from that point 216 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:12,480 forward, no further information will be available, no further action will be taken. 217 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:23,520 That's the story according to the U.S. Customs report. However, in 2017, the tele-hassy police 218 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,640 documents were acquired and uploaded online, and these documents would reveal much more information 219 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:37,040 that was hidden from the public for three decades. First, an investigation into the finders' vehicle 220 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:45,920 for the reveals, a few radios, boxes containing clothing, fruits, vegetables, a Chinese English 221 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:54,000 dictionary, a pack of Trojan condoms, a brown canvas bag containing photos of children, some nude, 222 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:01,920 computer programming discs, a piece of paper titled The Ballet of Ballets, which made references 223 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:09,440 to houses in Miami, Hawaii, San Diego, and China, and many many other items. 224 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:20,480 Second, there was an audit currency at Florida State University. According to this report, 225 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,920 a student by the name of Robert Sorkyne came across a small computer at a public phone booth 226 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:31,360 on campus. During an interview, Robert explained that he was walking past the phone booth when he 227 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:37,200 noticed the computer and took it home with him. During the weekend, he managed to start up the computer 228 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,560 and attempted to figure out its owner. Robert discovered information concerning the tele-hassy police 229 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:49,440 department and decided to turn the computer over to them. The TPD were able to determine that 230 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,360 this computer was owned by somebody involved with the finders. 231 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:02,480 Next, two of the six children, Mary Max, would describe some of the games the finders would play. 232 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,480 One involved taking off the men's clothes, putting them on, and then looking through the pockets. 233 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,280 Max elaborated that they would only remove the men's jackets. 234 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:21,600 Another game was taking a show with holes, running away with it, and then tearing it up. 235 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:29,120 Both Mary and Max also noted that women would come downstairs with no clothes. 236 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,080 During the interview, some of the other children year-needed their pants, 237 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,840 and one wanted to go outside to go to the bathroom. 238 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:47,040 After a medical examination from the tele-hassy department of health and rehabilitation services, 239 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,400 this report claimed that two children, Mary and Max, were confirmed cases of sexual abuse. 240 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:59,840 Max lacked anal spectric control, consistent with autonomy, and Mary showed signs of penetration by 241 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,840 fingers. But penal penetration wasn't completely ruled out. 242 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:11,600 John Paul had by Marx on his arm, but doctors couldn't determine if they were from an adult or 243 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,200 child due to the marks being five days to two weeks old. 244 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:24,240 As you can hopefully tell, these are very serious claims made by both tech-dives and medical experts. 245 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,400 Yet for whatever reason, these reports seem to be ignored. 246 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:35,200 How is it that the media reported on finding no evidence of the tentacles or legal activity? 247 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Yet a mountain of evidence from the tele-hassy police department, the HRS, and remote Martinez, 248 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:47,680 conflicts with that? Why did the fighters man carry condoms with them? Why were they given a 249 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:53,680 cover story to use of their recall by the police? Why were there so many connections to China? 250 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,360 The Chinese English dictionary, the files specifying ordering children from Hong Kong, 251 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:02,320 the fact that Mary learned how to count to 10 in Chinese. 252 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,600 It would take several years for the Department of Justice to get involved, but eventually they did. 253 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:33,200 By the 1990s, Martinez' reports on the finders remained kept away, and the hysteria surrounding 254 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:42,560 the Titanic panic had subsided. In December 18, 1993, news broke out that the Department of Justice 255 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,440 began looking into the finders, this time under the aura of conspiracy. 256 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:55,200 According to a private detective named Skip Clements, he claimed that the US Custom Service investigators 257 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:02,400 were called off the investigation by the CIA. The investigation was impeded, said Clements. 258 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:08,000 A senior official at Custom said it, the finders, was a CIA operation. 259 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:16,080 Clements' accusations reached at least two members of Congress, who were reportedly unsure 260 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:22,560 of what to believe in. Regardless, the Department of Justice began conducting an investigation 261 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,840 and to whether or not the CIA were involved with the finders. 262 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,120 However, a CIA spokesperson named David Christian claimed this to be a misinterstanding 263 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:39,680 on Martinez' behalf. When a Jemar Tinas was told that the investigation into the finders had become 264 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:45,440 a CIA internal matter, this was actually because one of the members of the finders was employed 265 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,160 as a part-time account at a computer training school called Future Enterprises Inc. 266 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,960 This location was also where employees from the CIA received computer training in the 1980s, 267 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,440 prompting an internal investigation. 268 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,760 Vice President of Future Enterprises at the time, Joseph Marinich, 269 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,280 confirmed that his company did train CIA operatives, but denied any allegations that the CIA 270 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:17,760 used it as a front company for the finders. However, according to the Washington Times, 271 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:24,160 a 1987 police document quotes a CIA agent confirming his agency was sending its people to a 272 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,520 finders' corporation, Future Enterprises, for training and computer operations. 273 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,840 It also notes that a later Custom's report said that the CIA admitted to owning the finders' 274 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:42,000 organization as a front for domestic computer training operations, but that it had gone bad. 275 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,960 Make that as you will. 276 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,720 In an article by US News, Florida's House of Representative member Tom Lewis states, 277 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,920 Could our own government have something to do with this finders' organization and turn their 278 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:05,200 backs on these children? That's what all the evidence points to, and there's a lot of evidence. 279 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:11,440 I can tell you this, we've got a lot of people scrambling, and that wouldn't be happening if there was 280 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,400 nothing here. 281 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:28,480 However, the finders still uphold their innocence in an interview between US News and Marion Petty 282 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:36,160 Petty describes the finders as a company that does freelance journalism, research, and competitor 283 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:43,040 intelligence. He also denies any claims that they work for foreign companies. Petty claims that the 284 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:49,280 reason why the CIA is interested in them and the finders is because his lay wife once worked for the CIA. 285 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,240 His son also worked for a CIA proprietary firm, Air America. 286 00:30:54,320 --> 00:31:00,960 Although the telehassy police reports does mention something interesting, 287 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,720 when word first broke out about the finders, Lieutenant Lee Hart of the Virginia Police Department, 288 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,920 got in contact with somebody from the cult. This contact told Hart that Petty had alerted 289 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,960 members to flee and hide. He further elaborated that Petty would have probably gone to the 290 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,560 Andrews Air Force Base and take a military plane to China. 291 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,960 The outcome of the Justice Department's investigation is never made clear in the documents that 292 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,880 I was able to uncover. However, I think it's pretty safe to say that the investigation was 293 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,400 either concluded or secretly dropped with no actions being placed against the finders or the CIA. 294 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:49,120 Many of the sources I found claim that the finders had fewer and fewer members as the years went on, 295 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,640 with some stating that less than a dozen were remaining. The finders were never heard from 296 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:00,160 again after this investigation, and Mary and Petty passed away in 2004. 297 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:18,080 So, here we are, several years later. Now we get to the fun part. In 2019, 298 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,280 the FBI Records Twitter account released a 600-page document about the investigation into the 299 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:29,600 finders cult. Knowing everything we know now, both told by mainstream media, 300 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:44,480 but was reported by Asian Martinez, and about the cult members and Mary and Petty, let's dive in. 301 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:59,600 Now we won't be going through all 600 pages, as a large majority of it is still redacted, 302 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,720 but I do want to point out some interesting bits of information in these documents regarding the finders. 303 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:12,800 The Department Justice, the DOJ, has requested the FBI conduct a preliminary inquiry into allegations 304 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:20,240 made by Amasuving Skip Climans, concerning child sexual abuse by a group known as the finders, 305 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,960 and what role, if any, was played by the United States Intelligence community. 306 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,160 On February 4, 1987, a Michael Hood and Douglas Merman were arrested by the 307 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:38,000 teleastice police department, the TPD. On Mr. Meiner Child abuse charges resulting from a complaint 308 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,120 that six children playing in a park were unkept and neglected. 309 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,200 Hullahan and Merman, the two subjects with the children, could not initially provide sufficient 310 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,800 information as to their legal custody of the children, and were uncooperative regarding their 311 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:58,160 identity and the children's identity. As a result of information developed during these arrests, 312 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,040 the TPD contacted the Metropolitan Police Department and provided information concerning, 313 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,840 I think, the CIA and their association with the group known as the finders, 314 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:15,280 facing Washington, DC. On February 5, 1987, the MPD executed search warrants, 315 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,080 prepared by the United States's Attorney's Office, District of Columbia, Washington, DC, 316 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:27,520 on two properties owned by the finders. Special agents, Ray Mone Martinez, participated in these 317 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:34,880 searches. Department of Justice's review of the United States's Custom Service documents 318 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,800 indicates that during the execution of the search warrants by the MPD, 319 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,600 attitude to finders' properties, though warehouse on the apartment. 320 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,760 United States Custom Service Secret agents Martinez claims to have observed a substantial amount 321 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:53,200 of computer equipment and documents properly containing obstructions for obtaining children for 322 00:34:53,200 --> 00:35:00,000 unspecified purposes. The instructions allegedly included the impregnation of female members of the 323 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:07,200 community, purchasing children, trading children, and kidnapping them. Martinez claims 324 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:20,720 and a whole bunch of redacted. Martinez has alleged that the finders are involved in a well-organized 325 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:27,040 child abuse scheme, and that redacted, probably the CIA, I think, any conjunction with the state 326 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,560 department and the FBI's Foreign Counterintelligence section conspired to cover up those abuses. 327 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:40,560 Click at it, this is definitely the CIA because a later FBI document has the same text, 328 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:48,960 but without the CIA being redacted. This page real quickly is kind of weird. 329 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:57,840 Well, it's not really weird, I just can't. I have difficulty reading this section handled in 330 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:06,720 pen, something of CIA employees. I had a tough time reading this, but at the very bottom of this letter 331 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:17,520 said finders definitely not a CIA front, so if anybody wants to download this and try to interpret it, 332 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:26,640 that'd be great. This part right here is interesting, redacted. I assume this is Jim Bradley. 333 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:32,560 Also advised that he had been told that the documentation had been located in the WMPD files 334 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,920 to indicate that Sergeant John Stature deceased, who had been a sergeant during the finders search, 335 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:45,200 had been contacted by a redacted, who told them to step away from the finders case allegedly 336 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:51,360 redacted. So someone told them to step away from the case for some reason. 337 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:58,320 Additional search warrant executed on farm and rovergenia with support by Virginia State Police, 338 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,920 no federal involvement. Evidence of satanic slash cult ritual discovered, 339 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:11,120 based on observed documents, customs agents unsuccessfully attempts to gain access to evidence 340 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:16,960 for detailed analysis, for use in investigating possible exports, neutrality act, 341 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:23,200 menact, and child pornography violations. So this agent tried to gain access to the evidence, 342 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,920 suppose unsuccessful or some reason, and then a big redacted. 343 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,520 Blank contacts MPD intelligence and advised that all reports regarding finders are to be classified 344 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:41,520 at the secret level. Blank also advised that no information was to be turned over to the FBI 345 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:47,600 WFO for investigation, and that the WFO would not be advised of the Blank 346 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:53,760 involvement slash contact. Children discovered in Tallahassee were eventually turned over to the 347 00:37:53,760 --> 00:38:00,880 individuals claiming to be parents or guardians. No further MPD, FBI or customs involvement, 348 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:07,280 as far as known, no details of Blank involvement ever became public. 349 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:16,240 Search warns, based on the information received from the source, and from the authorities 350 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:22,240 in the state of Florida, Blank authorized a search warrant for the premises of Blank, Washington, 351 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,720 search warns were executed for the premises of Blank by members of the MPD intelligence division 352 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:36,000 on February 56, 1987. Although no children were found, large amounts of documents dealing with 353 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:43,360 child rearing and shaping were recovered, along with manuals for master plans and dirty tricks 354 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:49,280 for enemies of the finders group. All this information was turned over to the Florida authorities 355 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:56,960 for evaluation, and then the medical reports are redacted, and the psychological reports are redacted. 356 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,600 21 former finders have been interviewed concerning their involvement in the organization 357 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,440 They stated that the organization began as an alternative lifestyle in the 1960s, 358 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:18,800 and many of them became disenchanted with the quasi military order under the direct supervision of Blank. 359 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,840 Many of the former members stated that they feared retribution from the finders' organization. 360 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,480 In the case of Blank, she needed police intervention to stop the harassment of the finders, 361 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:38,240 and the Blank case redacted was burned down and remains an open arson, 362 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:46,800 and the Blank case members of the finders attempted to infiltrate Blank in the United States. 363 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,840 In general, all members of the finders who had left the group, felt that harm would come to them 364 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:59,040 if they spoke out against Blank. I'm assuming Mary and Petty, or his organization. 365 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,280 Detective Blank interviewed all the family members who were willing to talk. 366 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:14,240 Specifically, the all-stated that Blank had brainwashed their children and prevented any contact 367 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:21,600 with either their children or grandchildren. Members of the finders, according to family members, 368 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,640 would stop any contact by sending letters describing explicit sexual acts involving 369 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:32,320 her members, including photographs and drawings. In the Blank case, 370 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:39,600 members of the finders attempted to take over the Blank family residents and for a splank out of her home. 371 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,920 I might know who this is, but we'll get to that later. 372 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:51,920 Special agents Blank of the Virginia State Police stated that his organization 373 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,440 executed search warrants at the finders farm in Madison County, Virginia. Blank stated that this group 374 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,880 appeared to be a survivalist organization with attempts to take over the city government and 375 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:08,720 co-pepper Virginia. During Virginia State's investigation, information was revealed that bodies were 376 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:16,560 buried on the farm at the nethers, but excavation revealed nothing. However, cages were discovered 377 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:22,480 on the premises that witnesses revealed were used to keep children during their visits to the farm. 378 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,840 FBI investigation 379 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:37,520 The FBI had contact with the finders since 1971, including a recent report dealing with CIA 380 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,400 involvement, with at least one of the members of the finders, passing information overseas, 381 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,520 concerning activities of the central intelligence agency. When it became apparent that no 382 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,280 federal laws were violated, the FBI vacated the investigation, 383 00:41:51,280 --> 00:42:02,400 summary. It is the writer's belief that the finders organization is and has been utilized 384 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:08,320 by the central intelligence agency as a disinformation service spreading non-essential, non-critical 385 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:14,160 information to various organizations throughout the United States and overseas. This group, 386 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:20,800 to the most part, is made up of over-educated non-achievers who lacked the inborn initiative to succeed 387 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:26,720 on their own. Therefore, they fell in with a charismatic leader who gave them directions and 388 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:31,920 self-importance. To the most part, this organization individually is harmless. 389 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,800 However, when directed and monitored by a controlling factor, they are capable of destructive 390 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:44,560 and illegal activities. As in any culture structure, the main drive is for the group, 391 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:50,640 an individual values in ideologies lost. Therefore, when a member is asked to perform a 392 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,240 task that, here to for may have been objectionable, here she performs this mission for the good 393 00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:01,920 of the group. As to the abuse of the children, I do not think that child abuse was a plan 394 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:08,000 tactic of this group. But as in any cross-section of society, sick and amended subjects belong 395 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:14,160 to a cult as well. I do believe that the shaping of the children is a planned experiments of 396 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,680 this group. As in the case of the Nazis, they struggle for a perfect society, thereby in their own 397 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,640 way, try to form a group of children and ultimately adults that did not suffer from the 398 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,960 ills of normal society, but took only the benefits that afforded them perfection. 399 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:36,240 Lastly, I do not feel that the founders have to spend it, as reported by their leaders, 400 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:41,440 being stead, as reported in their master plan, have appeared to dispend to prevent further 401 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:47,760 detection by law enforcement or social service officials. I firmly believe that this group 402 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:53,200 should be monitored and general sense, and if further developments occurred, they should be noted. 403 00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,320 The second of these FBI files contains newspaper articles and a redacted version of the 404 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:06,800 teleassy police reports, so we'll be skipping over that. A ballot of ballots can also be found. 405 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,240 It's an interesting read, but we'll also skip it. 406 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:16,960 Remember earlier when it was mentioned that X members feared for their safety? 407 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:23,920 Here's a small tip about it. Redacted, Petty I believe, operates out of a multi-paramine 408 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:31,120 residence located at Blank, and uses telephone numbers, Blank. He has used a number of bank accounts 409 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:37,760 to hide the funds obtained from the group members. Petty also utilized a warehouse located at Blank. 410 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:44,800 This location is a front for the organization, and operates as a few distribution points for the needy. 411 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,320 Blank is currently Blank. However, Petty will not tolerate anyone leaving the cult. 412 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,400 Blank feels his experience to date, with respect to the harassing letters and threats, 413 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:04,560 have all been related to his attempt to leave the cult. Petty also uses group members as 414 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:10,640 enforcers to apply physical pressure, as well as psychological pressure. He identified these 415 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:17,440 individuals as Blank. Blank is reputed to be Blank. Both individuals are violence prone. 416 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:23,600 Blank said Petty's harassment campaign utilizes letters to apply psychological pressure, 417 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,440 and these are followed up by personal visits from Blank. Blank believes both of these 418 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:34,880 individuals also perpetuate the arson's order by Blank. Probably Petty. 419 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:42,240 Blank related an incident occurring in January 1983, which involved Cold Member, 420 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:48,560 Barbara Savester Matija, who attempted to leave the cult. She was physically restrained in Blank 421 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:56,480 residents. Matija subsequently became ill and required medical attention. Blank refused to allow 422 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:02,560 her to obtain this attention, and she died on the premises. Blank said he does not believe that there 423 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:11,520 was any police investigation of the death. On October 22, 1991, the under sign received a 424 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,880 telephone notification from Officer Blank. Officer Blank advised that he and two footmen 425 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,720 have observed activity, which they believe is suspicious in nature. The officers have observed 426 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,600 numerous well-dressed males, who operate rental cars in expensive luxury type models, 427 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:33,840 enter the building located at Blank at late and early morning hours. The subjects and their vehicles 428 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:39,200 do not fit the area in which this building is located. Namely the market area of any 429 00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:45,760 on at least one occasion, the officers have observed adult males with a young male child enter the 430 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:52,160 building. This occurred after the midnight section had reported for duty on the streets. On another 431 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:57,440 occasion, Officer Blank stopped a van after it was observed leaving the building in the early morning 432 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:04,160 hours. The van displayed tags which were not listed to a van. The operator identified himself as 433 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:11,680 Blank. He told the officer that he did research stuff. He also stated that he babysat children 434 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:17,760 for diplomats. The officer advised the under sign that the building in the neighborhood is not fit 435 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:24,000 for babysitting activity, especially after midnight. The subject story was very suspicious to the officer. 436 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:31,440 The van is listed to Blank, White Male. The vehicle is described as Blank. 437 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:40,000 The officer advised that to the best of his recollection, this building is the same building 438 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,040 which was rated by police approximately blank years ago for some type of child pornography. 439 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,440 Now the finders are mentioned here, but the fact that this is in the finders files 440 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:57,840 leads me to believe that this building, which was seen with well dressed males and at least one child, 441 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:04,400 was the same building used by the finders. Okay so this portion of the video was way longer than 442 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,400 expected, so we're just going to go over one last page before I close things off. 443 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,320 Blank was interviewed within the Office of General Counsel, Central Intelligence Agency, 444 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,600 Langley Virginia. After being advised as to the identity of the interviewing agents and the purpose of 445 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:26,560 the interview, Blank provided the following information. Blank advised that he retired from the 446 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:33,280 CIA on Blank. He indicated that in February 1987, he was Blank, special activities division, 447 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,240 Office of Security, Blank stated that his data birth was Blank and his social security account 448 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:44,560 number Blank, and that he's a white male. Blank related that the special activity section within 449 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:51,200 the Office of Security was responsible for counterintelligence work to include internal investigations 450 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:57,120 of CIA employees, media leak investigations, and investigations dealing with the impersonation of 451 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:02,480 CIA employees. Blank indicated that his office had a regular interface with the federal 452 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,680 bureau of investigation, denies the Department of State, and the Defense Intelligence Agency. 453 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:19,360 Blank was shown photo copies of his February 18th 1987 memorandum, and if February 19th 1987, 454 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:24,000 Washington Metropolitan Police Department report of investigation. Both documents 455 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,440 concerning the finders group. Blank was then asked to relate his recollection of the circumstances 456 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,720 regarding his memo and the finders group. Blank related that his first involvement with the finders 457 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:40,720 group, most probably began in 1987 as the results of the media's coverage of the finders investigation. 458 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,320 Blank advised that the media at the time was indicating that the finders had some connections to 459 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:53,120 CIA. Blank related further that he had looked into the matter, and recalled that there were only 460 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:59,280 two connections between the CIA and the finders group. Blank stated that the first connection was 461 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:06,640 that, and then the next three pages are redacted. So yeah, all that's gone. 462 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:20,320 If nothing else, I hope this video helps people understand the finders, as it feels largely ignored. 463 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,040 Although there definitely was a lot of paranoia about the tentacles during the 80s, 464 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,800 and admittedly, people do tend to fear the worst. I think the mystery of the finders is more 465 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:36,960 complicated than that. In order to believe the official story, one would have to discount a large amount 466 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:43,360 of other evidence and official documentation. Did Martinez imagine or lie about his findings? 467 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,520 Did the medical experts incorrectly report it that two of the finders' kids showed signs of 468 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:56,560 sexual abuse? If you want a much more in-depth look into the finders, I recommend the conscious 469 00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,600 resistance. He's done a lot of research into the finders, even before the FBI released their 470 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:07,280 documents. His channel has an interview with Robert Terrell, where he still defends the group to this day. 471 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:15,040 I also recommend we've read the documents. They've gone into this way more than I have, and I've 472 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:20,080 admittedly love some details and names out, but this video should be a good brief overview of the 473 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:35,280 finders. So, where are the finders now? They live among us. They walk beside us. They're hidden 474 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:44,560 and plain sight. During the 1987 interview with X members, one said, this is a group that for 15 or 475 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:54,080 20 years has done nothing but practice flexibility and invisibility. You will never find them.