1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,000 The Bilderbergers have been plotting, and we are watching. Let's enter the Buzzsaw. 2 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Daniel Westchalen is back with us on Buzzsaw. 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,000 He's been here before talking about the Bilderberg conferences. 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 He's the author of books such as The True Story of the Bilderberg Group, 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Shadow Masters, Trans Evolution, and his upcoming book this September, 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Tavistock Institute, Social Engineering, The Masses. 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 He also has an upcoming documentary about the Bilderbergs. 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 But we're going to start with our first question. 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Daniel. 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,000 How are you? It's great to have your show. 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Thank you for joining us again. We're going to start with the first question. 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,000 What were the major points that were brought up this past summer 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,000 at the Bilderberg conference that you uncovered? 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,000 We actually attended this year's conference, 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,000 and not as a member of the Bilderberg elitist, 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 but as a member of the independent press 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 who were there getting information, gathering it from our sources, 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 and so on and so forth. 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,000 And I can tell you unprecedented security measures. 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:16,000 It was like a five or an eight-kilometer, five-mile, eight-kilometer perimeter, 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,000 security perimeter. 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,000 You know what I mean? 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,000 And a lot of interesting stuff. 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Artificial intelligence, cybersecurity, 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 you know, chemical weapons threats, 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 current economic issues, obviously. 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,000 You know, European integration, globalization, 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Greece, Iran, Middle East, NATO, 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Russia terrorism, you know, England, 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 United States, American elections. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Just a lot of stuff and, you know, some very serious discussions. 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 And although Bilderberg has lost a lot of its luster from, you know, 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 from the yesterday or so, because the people who organized the meetings 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 back in the 50s and the 60s, they're either old or dead, 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 you know, such as cases with, you know, 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,000 the Rockefellers and Schultes and Brzezinski's and Kissinger 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,000 and so on and so forth. 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,000 But still, you know, this year's conference did have a lot of interesting individuals, 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,000 a lot of people, you know, actually who run governments, 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 which isn't really saying a lot because, you know, 41 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,000 people who run governments that don't preside over important issues 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 as far as the, you know, past world affairs are concerned. 43 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 But still, there are a lot of people, you know, 44 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 mid-level kind of individuals from the intelligence community, 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:22,000 presidents of northern European nations such as Finland and Sweden and Denmark, 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 a lot of American important representatives. 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 And, you know, so they're quite a nice group this year, 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 you know, to say, to say the least. 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 And a lot of stuff was discussed, and neither to say, 50 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 but, you know, the greatest trend right now, 51 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,000 what we're looking at right now is, you know, the global amount of meltdown, 52 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 which obviously is hitting every part of the world. 53 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Yeah, I think that's something that's been talked about a lot 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 in the alternative community is the idea of 2015 being the year 55 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,000 where we could potentially see a collapse of the dollar system. 56 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 And then in order to maintain the dollar, 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 the Fed is basically going to continue to potentially crash the market 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,000 in order to preserve the strength of the dollar. 59 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,000 So what were some of the remedies that were discussed as to how to approach 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,000 this problem within the overall global financial system 61 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 that's currently dominated by the dollar? 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Well, you know, Sean, if you kind of go back a little bit to the 1970s, 63 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,000 you know, to the Arab oil embargo, 64 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,000 and you kind of look at the cycle, 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,000 it's amazing that, you know, there's this seven-year cycle 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 for the sequence of events that takes place, 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 which, you know, pretty much can destroy the world, 68 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 or any one of these seven-year cycles. 69 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,000 For example, in 1973, you had the Arab oil embargo. 70 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Then in 1980, you had the gold and silver, you know, 71 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Hunt Brothers peak. 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 1987, Black Monday. 73 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,000 In 1994, if you remember, irrational exuberance, you know, 74 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 with the ensuing Asian meltdown. 75 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Then in 2001, the inside 9-11 job. 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,000 In 2000, you know, the Lehman Brothers period. 77 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,000 And so this year, 2015, it basically built over a kind of 78 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,000 how this consensus, you know, if you wish. 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 There's a lot of disagreement, but they've agreed to disagree. 80 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 But there's consensus that we continue to demise 81 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,000 in the United States, you know, with the full firework set up, 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,000 you know, with Ukraine and also the European repeat of war. 83 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000 And a kind of quickening pace of events is highly negative 84 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,000 into, you know, natural types of, you know, 85 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,000 the lead to this actual earthquake, which we're about to experience, 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 and also, you know, to lead to this financial meltdown, 87 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 which could cause havoc on the world stage 88 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 and basically not only destroy countries and destroy economies, 89 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,000 but lead us and push us into this fourth, 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 if we're talking about the third world war being the Cold War, 91 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,000 fourth world war, which would be the semi-nuclear war. 92 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 There's no coming out of that. 93 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Right. 94 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 So you're saying that they're basically trying to instigate 95 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,000 some kind of global conflict, and this could be vis-a-vis, 96 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,000 could be vis-a-vis Russia, Iran, any number of countries to divert? 97 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,000 I don't know that far. 98 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Then I need to, like, you know, you're seeing battles rage in all the world. 99 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,000 It's basically, you know, the economy has been destroyed all over the world. 100 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 You know, the financial sector has been worked out. 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 You know, debt has never been paid. 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,000 You're looking at, you know, we're sitting on top of a 2.4 quadrillion dollar 103 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,000 derivatives bubble. 104 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,000 So, I mean, no matter where you look, you're just putting on the fires any way you can. 105 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 American economy is in a recession. 106 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 The Chinese stock market, you know, they're down. 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,000 I think everything that they've gained in the last year, 108 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,000 which has been a 135 percent rise in the Shanghai stock exchange, 109 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 they've all went and then some. 110 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,000 You know, also, there's just so much going on. 111 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,000 You know, the Goldman Sachs is warning that there's just too much debt. 112 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,000 You know, the Chinese just placed the artillery on the disputed South Sea islands. 113 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,000 You know, the margin debt is 50 percent higher than, you know, last week. 114 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Russia, you know, backs alternative to SWIFT. 115 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 You know, 5 billion euro bankrupt in Greece. 116 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,000 And, you know, of course, there's, needless to say, 117 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,000 there's a very strong sentiment among the builders that the U.S. dollar will not survive. 118 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,000 And so a lot of them are literally looking at the possibility of cashing out. 119 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:12,000 And a lot of them are looking at the possibility that this year, 2015, 120 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,000 will go down in history as, you know, extremely messy, extremely, 121 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 extremely important, you know, in the demise of the United States dollar. 122 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 But, again, it's not that they're organizing it. 123 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,000 And I think they've lost control in large part. 124 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 I mean, look anywhere you want across the world. 125 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:32,000 You want to love Europe, Italy, France, Spain. 126 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,000 You've just been overrun by, you know, by the Arab invasion. 127 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,000 And then if you're looking at, again, these aren't Arabs coming in with swords and horseback. 128 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 They're just being, but, you know, with refugees. 129 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:48,000 And Italy, northern Italy is just completely under control of these hundreds of thousands of refugees. 130 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 The French and Italians are basically shutting down the borders. 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,000 The Germans are doing the same. 132 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 You know, the Danish are doing the same. 133 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Spain, you know, Spain's president, Mariano Rajoy, is also looking at the possibility of shutting down borders. 134 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Because, again, you're looking at, you know, if that happens, Schengen is dead, 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,000 which means that Europe, as this united Europe, this creation, you know, of the Third Reich, 136 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,000 which was the whole idea of this united Europe, you know, at the end of the Second World War. 137 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 You know, that thing is containers. 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:20,000 And so no matter how you look at this, anywhere on the world stage, whether it's, you know, in South America, 139 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,000 whether it's in North America, all the, you know, the crampedest United States, you know, this, this, 140 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 the money is being spent. 141 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,000 And, again, it's something that I was looking into lately. 142 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 It's like you're looking at what the government is spending their money on. 143 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 You know, the first expenditure is on the earth. 144 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,000 But the second most amount of money is being spent on getting people in the United States to fight each other. 145 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000 You have to control, you know, the rhetoric. 146 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 And this is what's being done in the dialectic. 147 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:50,000 And so when the United States government has, you know, 50 million people who are living, 148 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,000 literally surviving on food coupons, another 50, 70 million who are literally unhappy 149 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 about what's going on on the national and international level. 150 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,000 You put all these people together. 151 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,000 You know, this great, amazing, you know, dissatisfaction. 152 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Also, you know, there's this extreme racism in the United States. 153 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,000 You're looking at 150 million people, half of the United States, 154 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 which are against what is being done by the government, 155 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,000 the people who run the government from behind the scenes in order to actually control these people. 156 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Because I think the question is, and this is one of the things which was obviously discussed 157 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,000 at the Bilderberg conference when we're talking about the United States as a subject matter. 158 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Obviously, they're talking about football, you know, or baseball negotiations with the union. 159 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,000 They're talking about the fact that half of the country, 150 million people, you know, 160 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:38,000 literally are, you know, up and up against the government in order to control the dialectic. 161 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 But you have to spend a lot of money to get men fighting women. 162 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 You get racists fighting each other. 163 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,000 You have the North fighting the South. 164 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:49,000 You have the Confederates, you know, the progressives in northern United States. 165 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,000 This whole kind of stuff is being orchestrated on purpose, because as long as people fight each other 166 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,000 on all these different fronts, you're not against the common enemy, which is basically what is being done. 167 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 You control, you know, the opposition. 168 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,000 And this is what's done on the United States, I need to say. 169 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 It's a huge problem. 170 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,000 When you go out to Asia, you have the same thing with China. 171 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,000 You know, Chinese economy is in a meltdown phase. 172 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 And if you kind of look at it, it's been a policy scheme since 2007. 173 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,000 And it just, you know, the markets are just blown out. 174 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:25,000 And if you look at the numbers, 9% of Chinese middle class, which is about 200 million people, 175 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 invested all their savings, all of their savings. 176 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,000 That's 200 million people into the stock markets. 177 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Well, the stock market just blew out. 178 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 All these people lost all their money. 179 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:42,000 After that, about 800 million people on the western part of China, which is underdeveloped and very, very poor. 180 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,000 And you put all these people together, you're looking at a billion, over a billion people 181 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 who are ready to go up against the government. 182 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:53,000 So you have governments, you know, busy protecting themselves from their own populations. 183 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,000 On the one hand, fighting each other on all these different fronts, which is why, again, you know, 184 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:06,000 the Council of Foreign Relations, and not too long ago came up with this terminology, which hasn't existed before in English, 185 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,000 frenemy, friends and enemies. 186 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:14,000 And anywhere you look on the world stage, we no longer have this, you know, long-lasting friendships and relationships. 187 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,000 And we had during the Cold War. 188 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,000 It's like even the Americans and the Israelis, they're frenemies on so many different fronts. 189 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Right. 190 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,000 But so in one sense, you're saying a lot of this is being stage managed from the top. 191 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:32,000 But at the same time, you're saying they are losing, it seems that they are losing their control and influence over these countries, you think? 192 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:37,000 And you're saying that people themselves are becoming more radicalized against their own governments. 193 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Absolutely. 194 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:46,000 I mean, if you kind of, you know, if you, if, to say right now that Bilderberg is controlling the best of the world stage would be absolutely false. 195 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,000 And I've heard this kind of stuff, but Bilderberg is controlled. 196 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Bilderberg in control this year is not part of the equation. 197 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Just look at some of the stuff that's going on. 198 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,000 You know, the Russians, for example, they jumped off the petrodollar recycle bandwagon. 199 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,000 That's one of the things. 200 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:06,000 You know, the Swiss, they removed the 120 euro peg to their currency, you know, which is a very big event. 201 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,000 You know, the Greeks, you know, they were preparing to exit the European Union. 202 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,000 That one all basically happened. 203 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 But, you know, this thing is far from over. 204 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:20,000 You know, the Greek populace is, they're up in arms, they're against everything which is being done, you know, to them as a nation state. 205 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:25,000 The European Central Bank announced details of the newest quantitative easing tampering. 206 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,000 So that's, you know, also a huge part of what we're seeing, you know, behind the scenes. 207 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,000 Then, you know, King Abdullah in Saudi Arabia died. 208 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,000 And you have this transition for the royal family begins. 209 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:43,000 You have this new king, Crown Prince Salman, who's, you know, the CIA has shown that has been supporting terrorists on the world stage. 210 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,000 And so he is senile. 211 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:52,000 So you have this, you know, the younger generation of Saudi princes battling for control of what basically is going to be the future of Saudi Arabia. 212 00:11:52,000 --> 00:12:00,000 And also the future between who are they going to stand with, the Americans, the Russians, are they going to go independent on what's going to happen to them. 213 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:07,000 You know, also, you know, Angela Merkel in Germany, she has offered a trade union proposal to Russia, which is a really big deal. 214 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Because if you kind of look at what's going on, you know, with Merkel, everybody's against her because they think, you know, she's this scrounger. 215 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 But, you know, she's very pragmatic. 216 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000 She understands the situation. 217 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 She knows that the American government is using it. 218 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 She knows that, you know, when the time comes, they're just going to throw them away. 219 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:26,000 And they know, you know, she understands that their natural trading partner is obviously Russia and not the United States. 220 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:34,000 And so, you know, Merkel offering a trade union proposal to Russia, which basically discards the United, you know, U.S.-led, you know, TTP trade. 221 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,000 And these are the kinds of, you know, that are huge kinds of, you know, deals. 222 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Gas from pipeline extension going through Turkey, you know, that's been revealed as well. 223 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,000 All that kind of stuff. 224 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,000 You know, to say that Bilderberg is managing this, you know, is completely out of the question. 225 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 And then you have, like, you know, the American economy. 226 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:54,000 They have this enormous miss, you know, in expected durable goods orders, which is huge information. 227 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:59,000 You know, the coal purchases are down 40%. 228 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,000 And people are saying, you know, okay, that doesn't really matter because we're not using coal. 229 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Well, the United States is using 15% of the coal, but the rest of the world is living off the coal. 230 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:15,000 And so the fact that, you know, you have the amount of purchases down 40% only goes to show you that the economy is tanking the world over. 231 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,000 And that's something that nobody can control. 232 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,000 But again, nobody can control. 233 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:30,000 But if we come back to what the Bilderberg has been doing for, you know, for decades, it's all going back to the deindustrialization, demand destruction, zero growth. 234 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 And you have this exactly, you know, this is exactly what you have. 235 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:41,000 And, you know, my book on the Bilderberg group back in 2009 when it first came out, we talked about this, you know, the prototypes, deindustrialization in America. 236 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:46,000 You have Detroit, which is a great, you know, prototype of what Bilderberg wants for the future. 237 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:52,000 And, you know, to people, you know, anywhere but in America, you look at Detroit and it looks shocking. 238 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Right. 239 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,000 It's what you're seeing, like, you know, in Time Legend with Will Smith, you know, minus the zombies, it's all there. 240 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:04,000 But, like, in about, you know, a generation from now, the rest of the world is going to look like Detroit and Detroit is going to look like paradise. 241 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,000 And that's what people don't, you know, that's what people don't understand. 242 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 But, you know, this kind of stuff. 243 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:16,000 That policy of the deindustrialization you're talking about, that does go back to, like, basically for America, post-Kennedy, post-Vietnam, really. 244 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,000 And then we start with taking the dollar off the gold standard and going to the petrodollar system. 245 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,000 That really begins, heralds the beginning of this deindustrialization process. 246 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,000 What's the psychological motivation behind it? 247 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Because you just did this book on Tavistock Institute. 248 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,000 And I was curious if there is a psychological dimension to the deindustrialization process. 249 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:39,000 What is the motivation of the elite to deindustrialize not only America, but basically the entire civilized world? 250 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Well, you know, the progress in the development of society is directly proportional to the population density. 251 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,000 The Bilderbergers know this. The Rockefellers know this. 252 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,000 You know, the circles of Gopher and Leibniz, you know, back 300 years ago knew this. 253 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 You know, Malchus knew this. 254 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,000 All these people knew, you know, the progress in development is proportional to population density. 255 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,000 So you have progress. 256 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,000 You have technological development and industrial growth. 257 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 You're going to have bigger families, more wealth. 258 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:09,000 And, in fact, we're living on a small planet with limited natural resources and an expanded population base. 259 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:15,000 If you kind of, like, you know, expanded a generation or two, you're going to go through, like, there are a lot of people saying right now we're not at seven and a half billion. 260 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,000 We're, like, closer to nine billion people. 261 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,000 But the fact is that if you go a generation or two, you're going to go to about 15 billion people. 262 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,000 You're always going to have a lot of, you know, enough space because people think there's not enough space. 263 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Seven billion people you can put in the state of Texas. 264 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 I mean, we're not going to be very comfortable, okay? 265 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,000 But you can put all these people, you can put them all in the state of Texas. 266 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,000 Showhorn them if you have to. 267 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 It just goes to show you that the world is a very big place. 268 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,000 You can put a lot of people. 269 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,000 But what we don't have is food. 270 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,000 We don't have natural resources. 271 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,000 And we're running out of water. 272 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Like, for example, Yemen is the first state on the planet Earth which is out of water officially. 273 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,000 They have no water. 274 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:54,000 India, which is about 1.4 almost billion people, they have no water as well. 275 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:59,000 You know, for them to actually get to their water supplies, they need to use nuclear technology, you know, 276 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 and get, you know, to the very core of the Earth. 277 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,000 And so the fact is that we're running out of water, food and natural resources, 278 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,000 which only goes to show you that for the elitists, for the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds 279 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:14,000 and all these, you know, supranationalists out there, for them to survive, most of humanity has to die. 280 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 And that's what we're looking at. 281 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 So all this kind of stuff of deindustrialization, demand destruction. 282 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,000 And if people don't understand this, if you're looking at the population base of 7 billion people, 283 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 the more people you have on the planet, the more technology you need, 284 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 you know, so all these people can actually live, you know, feed themselves, 285 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:36,000 have the necessary transportation system, and have basically the necessary amenities in life. 286 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,000 So if you don't have that, you know, the destruction of the technological base, 287 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:46,000 you're going to get to the point where you're not going to have enough waste to actually feed all these people. 288 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 And that's when you have the population, you know, break down. 289 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,000 And this is what these people are after. 290 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,000 And, you know, again, Detroit is a great example of that because it's, you know, 291 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:01,000 it's a living, breathing proof of what all these people have been, you know, talking about in the alternative media, 292 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,000 the investigators for, you know, for decades, that the plan is to deindustrialize the world. 293 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,000 It was started back in 1972 officially by the Clark Rome, whose idea was, you know, 294 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,000 basically to show that there's a limit to growth, which is, of course, insanity. 295 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,000 But the point is that if you actually use that formula, then what they're saying, you know, the globalists, 296 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:24,000 is enough of this growth, enough of this technology, let's go back to the, you know, to the basics, 297 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:29,000 let's go back to the caves, go back to planting tomatoes in our garden, and let's stop this, you know, 298 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,000 crazy development of technology. 299 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,000 And that's exactly what we're doing. 300 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:38,000 So on the one hand, when you see this, and I talked about this, you know, in the book that I released a year and a half ago, 301 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,000 which we were discussing, we showed trans-evolution, the coming age of human deconstruction. 302 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:47,000 So on the one hand, what the elites are doing is they're destroying the world's economy on purpose. 303 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,000 But on the other hand, what they're doing is they're using their gazillions of dollars 304 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:58,000 to invest in this futuristic technology so amazing that this gap between them and us is going to be greater than ever. 305 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,000 And then we're seeing it right now. 306 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,000 And, of course, the next stage of this gap is, you know, the race for the conquest of the moon, 307 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 and then, obviously, the planets. 308 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:13,000 And so for the first time in history, you know, up to now we have been a planetary civilization, 309 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,000 but now we're literally going to the galactic civilization. 310 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,000 And I'm not talking about intergalactic. 311 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,000 I'm not talking about UFOs or, you know, a little, you know, green and brown man. 312 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:28,000 I'm not talking about, you know, this quest of society, the Americans, the Russians, the European Space Agency, 313 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,000 you know, the Indians, you know, the Japanese, the Pakistanis, the Argentines. 314 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Everybody is trying to get to the moon because you have all the natural resources on the moon which you need, 315 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 first of all, you know, to survive on the planet Earth. 316 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:46,000 And second of all, you actually start building, you know, forward colonies on the moon, then on Mars, et cetera, et cetera, 317 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:52,000 which is basically a question of infrastructure, which is the biggest problem right now, the biggest question right now, 318 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,000 is the whole problem a question of infrastructure? 319 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,000 We have so many people over the world, especially, you know, in Asia, 320 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,000 which is one of the reasons why, you know, BRICS is such an important alliance. 321 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:07,000 And one of the things which needless to say was discussed at the Bilderberg Conference. 322 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000 The BRICS. 323 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:15,000 So what was the approach, the tactic discussed by the Bilderbergs regarding the Brazil, Russia, India, China alliance 324 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:21,000 and that banking alliance that's being formed to counter the World Bank IMF structure? 325 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Well, what you're looking at, you know, it's quite a bit asymmetrical, you know, global warfare. 326 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,000 And you're looking at what Catherine Austin-Fitts called BRIC civilization. 327 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Basically what it means, you know, you have the American-led models, you know, as we've discussed before. 328 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:41,000 But there's a lot of nations, such as the Russians, you know, the Chinese, the Indians, the South Africans, you know, the Brazilians. 329 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,000 They want to get out of the system. 330 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,000 They want to create their own system, something which is very different, what the United States has established, 331 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,000 which is, you know, the warfare models, Catherine Austin-Fitts calls it. 332 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,000 And so the whole point is that you have all these different, you know, groups of people. 333 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,000 And I just came back from Venezuela. 334 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,000 I gave a speech to the Minister of Defense and all the generals, you know, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 335 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,000 and also gave a speech at the National Assembly in Caracas. 336 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000 I'm the first foreigner to have actually done that. 337 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000 I was not a president of the country. 338 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Yeah. 339 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:14,000 And so you're seeing, you know, countries like Venezuela and Ecuador and Bolivia and all these nation states, you know, 340 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:20,000 who are kind of aligned with the United States and Western Europe and, you know, the supranational power structures, IMF, et cetera, et cetera, 341 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000 you know, trying to get out of there. 342 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:29,000 And I was using Mercosur, using, you know, Bank of the South, which is there for, you know, these big, large infrastructure projects. 343 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,000 And this is what, you know, this whole thing about, you know, the new what Silk Road is all about. 344 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:38,000 It's about joining this world, merging it, you know, internationally, using this whole thing about infrastructure, 345 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:46,000 by merging countries, merging economies, but not in a sense of, you know, global, you know, one-world corporation kind of thing, 346 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:53,000 but other nations working together to get out of this, you know, the neocon or warfare model, call it whatever you want, 347 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:58,000 which the United States has imposed on the world a long time ago and actually has been there, you know, for the last 500 years. 348 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:03,000 But the whole point is, is that there's a lot of pushback from the Russians and the Chinese. 349 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,000 And that's one of the reasons we've seen what we've seen. 350 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:11,000 And also, that's one of the reasons we've seen, you know, this whole deal with Iran add a big part to play in this, 351 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,000 because, again, this whole thing about frenemies, frenemies. 352 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,000 And, you know, yesterday, your enemy today could be very much used being a friend, 353 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,000 because for the Americans, the whole deal with Iran is a very big part of the strategy, 354 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,000 which I don't have information from Bilderberg if they've talked about this or not, 355 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,000 but I have no doubts that they actually talked about this, because, you know, the whole information that I got from my sources 356 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:38,000 after the deal was, you know, sealed and signed and delivered is, you know, just points to the fact that it was very much discussed at the Bilderberg conference. 357 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 And what was the take on it? Because I've heard different accounts. 358 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:50,000 I mean, one interpretation of the deal with Iran is to say America is basically going to turn that kind of situation into what they did with Iraq, 359 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,000 where once the UN inspectors start going in, next thing you know you have grounds for allegations 360 00:21:54,000 --> 00:22:00,000 and actually have a treaty that could justify a strike, a preemptive strike by the US or even by Israel. 361 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:07,000 And then the other interpretation is, well, we're actually opening up Iran to become the next Saudi, 362 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,000 basically what the Saudis were for the petrodollar before, as far as the oil was concerned. 363 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Iran is basically being turned into the next version of Saudi Arabia to recycle our petrodollar. 364 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,000 So, tell me, what is your take on it? 365 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,000 Yeah, I don't see that happening, first of all, because, you know, the Wahhabists were founded and created by the British Empire. 366 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,000 And, you know, the British Empire is, you know, the United States is a junior partner of this, you know, British Empire. 367 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:36,000 And my take, you know, from things that I've heard from my sources and the sources at a very high level in the Russian government 368 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,000 and also in other governments in Latin America is the following. 369 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Again, the whole thing about frenemies, the United States signed the deal with Iranians. 370 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:52,000 So the Iranians, obviously, are going to have a million and a half barrels a day of oil output coming on the market, coming online, 371 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 which is obviously, you know, great for the Iranians. 372 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,000 It's bad for the Russians, which is, again, one of the reasons the whole deal was signed, 373 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,000 is to do as much damage to the Russian economy as possible. 374 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,000 If oil right now is $50, $52 a barrel, it's actually only going to, you know, bring it down. 375 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,000 So that's great for the, you know, Iranians. 376 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,000 They get oil online, you know, the back part of the international community. 377 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,000 They get $100 billion of their assets unfreezed. 378 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000 You know, it's awful for the Israelis. 379 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,000 You know, it shouldn't be because Iran has never been an enemy in the sense that, you know, 380 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,000 Iran, who have they attacked lately or, you know, recently or in the last hundred years? 381 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000 They haven't attacked anyone. 382 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000 And it's Israelis actually doing all the attacking. 383 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,000 And so the point is that the Israelis, the Saudis, is just basically vying for control, you know, 384 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 of Middle East territory. 385 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,000 But also, you know, what's bad for the Russians is also great for the Chinese. 386 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000 And then you have the frenemies between the Chinese and the Russians. 387 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000 You know, there's also a lot of, you know, rivalry. 388 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,000 They signed a deal last year, you know, $400 billion deal on natural gas. 389 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000 But again, it was signed at the worst possible moment for the Russians. 390 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,000 But they needed, you know, to announce the deal because they were getting pressed, you know, 391 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,000 pressured all over the place. 392 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,000 And so needless to say, the Chinese got a lot, you know, as far as the bargain is concerned. 393 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,000 And now they got, you know, the fact that the new oil is coming online, which is great for the Chinese 394 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000 and that for the Russians. 395 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:13,000 But the same day that the deal was signed with the Iranians, American arms companies signed 396 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:19,000 a $6 billion deal with the Arabs, you know, in the Gulf. 397 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,000 And at the same time, you know, I mean, frenemies between the Saudis and the Americans. 398 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,000 On the one hand, they're saying, you know, we're not happy that you signed a deal. 399 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000 We are going to buy arms. 400 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,000 But on the other hand, immediately after the signing, you know, the deal with the Saudi Arabia, 401 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,000 Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, et cetera, the Saudis turn around and sign a very important deal, 402 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,000 you know, of space exploration, you know, this nuclear technology, you know, 403 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Maglev trains, which is, you know, a high-speed train. 404 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:53,000 And so, again, the Saudis, they're using the Americans, but they're also, you know, getting 405 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000 closer to the Russians. 406 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,000 And, but then, you know, there's the other part, the whole thing on American corporations, 407 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,000 ExxonMobil, which is, you know, I just got back from Venezuela, and it's a very part of 408 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,000 their exploring territory, which, you know, legally belongs to Venezuela. 409 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,000 And so ExxonMobil, which is ex, you know, Rockefeller, part of the Rockefeller empire, 410 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:19,000 they had this amazing deal, almost a billion-dollar deal with Rosnet, which is Russia's national 411 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,000 oil company for exploration in Sakharin, in the Far East. 412 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:29,000 When the Americans put the embargo on the Russians in March of 2014, the American companies 413 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,000 could no longer deal with the Russians. 414 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,000 So they lost out on a billion-dollar deal. 415 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:39,000 And needless to say, the Rockefellers or ExxonMobil, which is an amazing political clout 416 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,000 and lobbyists in Congress, they're not going to sit back and just, you know, take it with 417 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000 their arms. 418 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000 And the fact that it didn't say anything led me to believe that something is up. 419 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,000 And needless to say what's up is that the Iranian oil, once it's online, the problem with 420 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,000 Iran is that their installations are very old. 421 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000 They need to be upgraded. 422 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,000 Well, the upgrade is about a $70 billion upgrade. 423 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,000 And you know who's going to get most of that money? 424 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,000 ExxonMobil, which, again, just goes to show you how all that kind of stuff works. 425 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000 And with the elections coming up in 2016, you know a lot of that money that these people 426 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,000 are going to be making is going to go back to the Democratic Party as a thank you, you 427 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 know, for getting Exxon, you know, into Iran. 428 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000 So, again, a lot of that stuff is going on. 429 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,000 A lot of the things which we have taken for so long, you can no longer take for granted, 430 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000 because, again, the word, I think, of 2015 is for enemies. 431 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,000 And anywhere you look on the world stage, they are no longer, you know, these long-lasting 432 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000 relationships. 433 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000 It's all, you know, I take this from you, I give this back. 434 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000 In a while, I'm a friend with you on this particular issue. 435 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000 We're enemies on another issue. 436 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:43,000 And this is, again, the reason this is being done is, on the one hand, the economy is collapsing 437 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,000 all over the world. 438 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,000 But also, on the other hand, what you're seeing is that geography, for the first time, 439 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,000 is really dictating, you know, foreign policies of pretty much every nation on the planet. 440 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Hmm. 441 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,000 So you've done, I mean, you've done obviously a lot of work on the Bilderberg Group. 442 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,000 You've done work on these, on the nature of oligarchy in our world, and obviously the 443 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:07,000 trans-evolution concept being how the elite are pushing some of these sort of GMOs and the 444 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000 modification of our genetics in the future. 445 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,000 But what is it about Tavistock Institute that is so fascinating to you? 446 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Why did you choose Tavistock as the focus of this upcoming book? 447 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000 I actually wrote that in 2011. 448 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000 It came out in Spain, yeah, three and a half years ago. 449 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,000 And basically, if you kind of look on the world stage, you know, if you go back to explain 450 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,000 to people in a visual sense that they can understand, if you kind of go back, you know, 451 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:37,000 to the generation of people who fought the Civil War, and you look at the baby boomer generation, 452 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,000 and you look at the sons and grandsons of that generation, you know, it's like it's been 453 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000 a change of paradigm of society. 454 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,000 And again, if you want to change society, if you want to be able to control society, 455 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,000 you have to get people away from what we were to new paradigm. 456 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000 And this is what we have right now. 457 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,000 But again, this isn't new. 458 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,000 If you go back to the Aquarian conspiracy, you know, the brainwashers, you know, referred 459 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000 to themselves. 460 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:06,000 If you look at the 1974 Stanford Research Institute study, which was changing images 461 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,000 of man, you kind of, you know, think of all this kind of stuff, you know, as brainwashing 462 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,000 manual. 463 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,000 And brainwashing, of course, depends on the ignorance of the victim, and it's all around 464 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,000 us. 465 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,000 You know, we can all perceive this disintegration of our nation in terms of, you know, day to 466 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,000 day personal experiences. 467 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000 But, you know, this is not a coincidence. 468 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,000 Again, Detroit, as I said, is a great example of that. 469 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,000 You know, it's not an accident. 470 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 We're witnessing all this around us. 471 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,000 And it is a planned disintegration of the world economy by the most powerful people in 472 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,000 the world. 473 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,000 And, well, this book on Tavistock Institute attempts to show that the conspiracy is real. 474 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,000 You know, it shows who is behind it, you know, how this stuff is being put together, 475 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,000 what the long-term objectives are, and how they work together with, you know, Bilderbergs 476 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000 and all these other secretive and private organizations. 477 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,000 And, you know, again, this is real. 478 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,000 And people, you don't need to understand how secret societies work to kind of look around 479 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:04,000 and see that this disintegration, degeneration of society, of people, of moral values, you 480 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,000 know, of who we are as individuals has changed tremendously over the last couple of generations. 481 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,000 And, basically, what's at stake is the future of the planet. 482 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,000 You know, and what I do in the book is I show that, you know, every time, for example, 483 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,000 musical degeneracy is, you know, to order in a laboratory that every, you know, unwashed 484 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,000 environmentalist has, you know, has slithered out of some social engineering laboratory and 485 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:31,000 every drug addict is a byproduct of this, you know, farsighted government policy whose final 486 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,000 objective is the destruction of the human spirit and, you know, degradation of pen. 487 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:40,000 And you can talk about, you know, the, you know, transcendental meditation as, you know, 488 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,000 telekinesis, left-right radical movement, you know, followed by, you know, sensitivity 489 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,000 training, cosmic consciousness, new age operations, you know, chemtrails, anything you want. 490 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,000 You know, you kind of look at all this kind of stuff. 491 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,000 They all come from some, you know, government-sponsored, foundation-funded projects. 492 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,000 And basically what I show in the book, how this whole stuff was put together, who was 493 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,000 behind it, what were the objectives, and how this degeneracy in every level of society is 494 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,000 being put together and used against us as people to change the very parenting of who 495 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000 we are. 496 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Because again, we are people who are principles who believe, you know, in the values. 497 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Just think about it. 498 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,000 If everybody in the entire world was like Oliver Stone, they could never do what they're doing 499 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000 to us. 500 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000 And you know that. 501 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Right. 502 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,000 So basically it's a question of hurting the masses and keeping us dumbed down, essentially 503 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:33,000 having, having many events or things that seem to be organic, including, for example, 504 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,000 maybe shootings or whatnot here in the U.S. and playing that into some sort of controlled 505 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,000 scenario, as you mentioned earlier, in the United States, this push towards like a race, 506 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,000 racial conflict or divide between North and South. 507 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Issues like this basically keep people distracted and out of tune with the fundamental oligarchy 508 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000 that runs the planet. 509 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000 Absolutely. 510 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,000 You know, what's under solved, John, is, you know, not only our individual human rights, 511 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,000 but also the, you know, the very institutions of the nation state republic from the oligarchy's 512 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,000 massive social engineering program conducted through Tavisak Institute for Human Relations, 513 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,000 which, you know, there are the centuries in Sussex, England, in London. 514 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:17,000 And, you know, of course, you know, larger integrated networks of centers, applied social 515 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,000 psychology and social engineering that basically came out of the apparatus of World War II 516 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,000 in England. 517 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,000 And, of course, you know, you have a lot of institutions in the United States such as Stanford 518 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Research Center, you know, RAND Corporation, MIT, the Advanced Center for Behavioral Sciences 519 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,000 at Palo Alto in California. 520 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,000 So there's a lot of that kind of stuff, you know, London School of Economics, Harvard Business School, 521 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,000 the National Institute of Drug Abuse. 522 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000 We have all these groups working together. 523 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:46,000 It's easy to see how you can change the paradigm of society pretty much in every level. 524 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,000 And then, you know, and that's what this book is about. 525 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:54,000 And it basically shows you who's doing what to whom, how it's being done on a very, you know, 526 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,000 miniscule level so that people can understand it in context. 527 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,000 What's your perception on what's coming for the U.S. in the coming year? 528 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Some people speculate if with the economic collapse, there could be a major false flag event. 529 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000 Perhaps this September is one of the dates I heard from military sources. 530 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:16,000 There's also talk, obviously, about the martial law scenario, especially with given Jade Helm and whatnot. 531 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,000 Do you, does anything lend you to that idea that we can, we're going to see something 532 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,000 that could potentially suspend next year's elections? 533 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Or do you think it will still, even despite whatever occurs, we'll still see elections in 2016? 534 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,000 I have a really hard time believing that they're going to suspend the elections. 535 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:42,000 I mean, you could push and shove and get rid of a few congressmen, you know, and the Speaker of the House. 536 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,000 But after you suspend the elections, it's going to do a hell of a lot of convincing. 537 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,000 And I think, especially the military, they're certainly not going to go for it. 538 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000 And I just can't see it happening. 539 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,000 I mean, it's a thought, but I can't see it happening. 540 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:01,000 What I can't see happening is, you know, it's every other scenario. 541 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,000 You know, false flag operations. 542 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,000 And a lot of these false flag operations, you know, are being done right now. 543 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,000 For example, the stuff that you're seeing right now, you know, with the police brutality. 544 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,000 And of course, you need to say, it's awful. 545 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,000 You know, it's just, it's amazing. 546 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000 You know, I'm in Europe, and you see that kind of stuff. 547 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,000 And it's hard to believe that the United States, which has forever been a beacon of hope for, you know, 548 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,000 the entire generation of Soviet citizens, you know, such as myself and my parents, 549 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,000 who were brought up and lived in the Soviet Union in the 60s and the 70s, 550 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000 and wanted to live in a free country. 551 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000 And now you see the United States for what it is. 552 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,000 It's a monster. 553 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000 And needless to say, there's nothing to do with, you know, what the founding fathers created. 554 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000 But the point is that a lot is at stake. 555 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,000 A lot of, you know, plays is being orchestrated in every level of society. 556 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000 You need a lot of money to do this, which is why, again, you know, 557 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:54,000 the second largest budget expenditure is on getting people, you know, to fight each other 558 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000 and make sure you don't see the common enemy. 559 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000 But beyond that, you know, I think the economy will tank. 560 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,000 I think September is, end of September is what everybody is, 561 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,000 every analyst in the world is saying is, you know, when the market is going to collapse. 562 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,000 You know, it's, you know, you go bust. 563 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000 There's very little to do. 564 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,000 And if you kind of, you know, look at the world stage of the financial numbers, 565 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,000 if you look at, you know, debt to, you know, GDP, it's, you know, it's hopeless. 566 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000 Spain is like 98 percent. 567 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,000 France is 95 percent. 568 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000 You know, Japan is 230 percent debt, you know, to gross domestic product. 569 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000 China is like 300 percent. 570 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,000 You have 24 nations around the world, which are in worse situations than Greece is, 571 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:41,000 and they're going to ask for, you know, for bankruptcy protection, you know, in any moment. 572 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,000 And, you know, half of Europe is in, you know, is in debt. 573 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,000 Italy, for example, has a $2.6 trillion debt, which is, you know, unpayable. 574 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,000 And, of course, Italy is going to hell from Rome down. 575 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,000 It's like, you know, it's literally, you know, northern Africa from Rome up. 576 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000 It's, you know, it's conquered by the Arabs, Arab horde. 577 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,000 You can say the same, you can say the same about Portugal, what always Greece is like. 578 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,000 But then Greece is not, you know, there's just a lot of many nations. 579 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Most of Yugoslavia is pretty much in the same position. 580 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Croatia, Macedonia, Kosovo, which only goes to Jordan from now on. 581 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:21,000 You've got this amazing, you know, enormous amount of drugs that are going to be pushed into Europe from Kosovo via Afghanistan. 582 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000 And you've seen the same thing being done in Latin America. 583 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:31,000 And one of the things which recently happened, you had this breakdown between the Colombian government and the foreign terrorists. 584 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000 They couldn't reach an agreement. 585 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,000 Of course they couldn't reach an agreement, because the United States need, they need Colombian, you know, drugs. 586 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:43,000 The Americans and the Colombians and the terrorists, the foreign terrorists, they all, they know it was just better not to make a deal. 587 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,000 Because the American needs drugs, because they're, you know, the banks have no cash. 588 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:56,000 Panamize is basically a bank drop, you know, and Panamize is the center for recycling of all the drug money, so they need, you know, Colombian drug money. 589 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:06,000 And then what you have right now, for example, in Africa, Boko Haram, Nigeria, well, you know, they're getting a lot of their money through the drugs being also exported from Colombia. 590 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000 And that being pushed into Europe, you know, from Nigeria. 591 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,000 So you have, you know, you have this, you know, this drug explosion all over Europe. 592 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000 You have this drug explosion in the United States. 593 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:21,000 I was just reading, actually, today on several national networks that there's, you know, the drug explosion in the United States. 594 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,000 Of course there is. 595 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,000 You can't avoid it. 596 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000 You know, drugs are the lubricant of the world economy. 597 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:35,000 So, needless to say, the powers that are going to be pushing drugs will stay all over the world because they need, you know, the drug profits, you know, to have to keep the economy running. 598 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000 And it's perverse. 599 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,000 It's perverse, Sean. 600 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000 It really is. 601 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,000 And, again, it's anything, you know, can go. 602 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,000 Nothing is off the table. 603 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,000 And that's one of the things that Bilderbergers are basically discussing. 604 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000 And they realize that they're no longer in control. 605 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:57,000 And the fact that they're no longer in control is a scary scenario because it means that anything can happen anytime, anywhere in the world. 606 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,000 So, well, you see it basically, what we're looking at is a global disintegration of the financial system. 607 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,000 But it could be, it could go either way. 608 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:13,000 It could end up becoming this sort of decentralization of nations, of unions and communities. 609 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000 It could lead to potentially revolutionary moments. 610 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000 It could be positive or negative, right? 611 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,000 The way you see it, it doesn't really, it's not really clear, right? 612 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,000 We're just going into sort of a revolutionary time period. 613 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,000 Let me just, you know, explain to you, you know, this way. 614 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:42,000 With 2.4 quadrillion dollar bubble, a derivatives bubble, what you have right now is, you know, if you actually have like a 4% haircut, 615 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:49,000 of all this debt, the world economy is going to lose between 75% and 90% of its wealth. 616 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:58,000 So, literally, you can go to sleep tonight and you can wake up tomorrow and find yourself, you know, in a Mad Max or, you know, Blade Runner type of world. 617 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:06,000 Literally, you know, if that happens, and it can happen, you know, you have these levers anywhere in the world can just blow up in any moment. 618 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000 Because there's nothing holding them back. 619 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000 We can't pay this kind of debt ever to anybody. 620 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000 And so that happens. 621 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,000 There's even, you know, the slightest, you know, of drops. 622 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000 We're talking about like a 4% haircut, for example. 623 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:25,000 You're looking at 75% to 95% of the world's wealth is going to be wiped out immediately. 624 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,000 Which means that tomorrow morning, the banks are going to be closed, the world is going to be different. 625 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,000 You know, you're going to have supplies that are no longer going to be going anywhere. 626 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,000 The bank is going to be closed. 627 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,000 And how long will the police and the army are going to be able to keep control of the situation? 628 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,000 Very little time. 629 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,000 So, again, the situation is you go to bed tonight, tomorrow morning, it's a completely new world. 630 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,000 And the fact is that you have no money left anywhere on the world stage. 631 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,000 It's going to show you that, you know, it's desperate times, which is one of the reasons 632 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,000 this old, you know, long relationships and friendship are out the window. 633 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Literally on the government and corporations who run governments from behind the scenes. 634 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,000 You know, they change their interests. 635 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,000 I mean, it's fascinating to speculate and obviously we'll have to see what occurs. 636 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Tell us a bit about your documentary on the Bilderbergs. 637 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,000 What's the title of the documentary that's coming out in September? 638 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,000 It's called A True Story of the Bilderberg Group. 639 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,000 And it's basically, my book is coming out in September. 640 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000 It's been an amazing film for about four and a half years. 641 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,000 We have two producers who are literally bankrupted by, you know, . 642 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000 You know, we took the film under our wing. 643 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,000 A quarter of a million dollars of our own minds actually have the budget, you know, to make this film. 644 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:43,000 We travel to 11 countries to interview people, so it's a major and a very, you know, important documentary. 645 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:50,000 It's about 83 minutes long and it's coming out about the 20th of September and saying we have a, you know, huge premiere. 646 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,000 And then we're going to do platforms around the world. 647 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,000 Needless to say, the idea is to get out into every country and every new concordance 648 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000 so people can actually see who is doing what for them and how it's all being done. 649 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,000 Yeah. 650 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,000 No, that should be fascinating to see. 651 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,000 So, obviously, people have to check out the documentary, the upcoming book on the Tavistock Institute. 652 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,000 Yeah. 653 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,000 Where can they find more on you? 654 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000 On your website? 655 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,000 Probably the easiest is to go on Twitter, you know, . 656 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,000 I really have no time for a new book coming out in Spain on Islam. 657 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000 It's called In the Name of Allah. 658 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:24,000 And the subtitle, it's how the women created, funded, and unleashed, you know, Islamic terror in the world. 659 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000 And that's coming out in Spain. 660 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000 It's, you know, the first print run is about 70,000 copies. 661 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000 It's going to be a huge, huge book and very, very tiny. 662 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000 Fantastic. 663 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000 Well, thanks again for joining us and rejoining us, I should say. 664 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,000 You've been on a couple of times now. 665 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000 It's always a pleasure, Sean. 666 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,000 Always a pleasure. 667 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,000 Pleasure. 668 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,000 Take care. 669 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,000 You too. 670 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000 Bye. 671 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,000 Well, there you go, folks. 672 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,000 There are many predictions and warnings about what might be occurring in the coming year or two. 673 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,000 And I think it is in line with a lot that's out there in the alternative news. 674 00:40:53,000 --> 00:41:01,000 But one thing I do urge is that people not panic or be afraid of what's occurring in the world that's beyond our individual powers. 675 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,000 And realize that so long as human beings exist, we find ways of working out problems 676 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,000 and perhaps recreating and recrafting systems that are defunct. 677 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000 This is Sean Stone, signing off. 678 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,000 That's a great haircut. 679 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,000 I'm Christians. 680 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Tea Sauce. 681 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,000 Can't do myself. 682 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,000 Okay. 683 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,000 Let's see. 684 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,000 We'll be right back. 685 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,000 We'll be right back. 686 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,000 He's practicing, aren't I? 687 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,000 The entrepreneur wants us. 688 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,000 And so on. 689 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,000 See you. 690 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,000 Yay! 691 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,000 Of course be on the other side. 692 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,000 You're looking for not, yes. 693 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,960 It's limited constituent or anything. 694 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,960 Too many things like me rain. 695 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,960 What if we want her, you could get to be application. 696 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,960 I'm the guy. 697 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,880 The development Beethoven's manual 123. 698 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,960 Is a woman. 699 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,040 I'm the one. 700 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:48,040 We'll see you next time.