1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,920 I don't want to cut in on any time of John's, but I do have a now it can be told story. 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,880 I was just talking to a guy outside during the break who went on a tour with John and 3 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:26,400 he said that was my first and only trip to Egypt and he said I think about it every single 4 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,400 day. 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,760 Isn't that beautiful? 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,960 And I've been to Egypt a number of times I used to work over there and I've shot half a million 7 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:44,460 pictures plus and when I was a monk, one of the monks came to me and he had this burning 8 00:00:44,460 --> 00:00:52,760 desire to go to Egypt and he talked about this for years and so finally I told him I said 9 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:59,080 okay, here's what we'll do why don't you go try to line up a tour and I'll cover for you 10 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,600 and we won't tell anybody and you just split, just go to Egypt and he said well 11 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,760 I'd like to read about it, you know first to know more and I said well there's only one 12 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:14,640 guidebook worth reading and that's John's you know and so he was able to line up a tour 13 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,080 of this monk so he snuck out of the areshrum and went on a tour with John. 14 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Isn't that amazing? 15 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,720 Nobody knows this till now. 16 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:28,320 I won't name any names but the only other story I have to tell you it's like that one 17 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:34,280 of the monks has a friend who works for the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences 18 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,240 and his friend told him the Academy Awards are coming up I'd like to rent you a 19 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,920 toks and why don't you come to the Academy Awards and we'll get you a seat up front 20 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:49,640 and so this monk didn't tell anybody somebody came picked him up to come to the Academy Awards 21 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:54,720 and during the commercial breaks all the people run to the bars you know and hang out 22 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,840 and then they rush back to their seats so it's this continual going back this monk 23 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:05,240 who's for the first time at the Academy Awards finds himself standing next to the actress 24 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:11,440 live Olman at the bar and he tells me the next day when he's telling me this story he 25 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:19,040 said you know what next life I'm gonna be beautiful. 26 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,360 Well next life I want to go on tours with John Antony West and I encourage all of you 27 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,360 to do the same. 28 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,360 John. 29 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,360 Thank you Craig. 30 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:35,080 You're young enough to go in this life I'm still going. 31 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:44,520 Anyway since we start on this particular track I always have a sort of a table of contents 32 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,280 in my head when I start out and I'm talking at the end of the conference which I like 33 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,160 to do because then no one can contradict me and I can go on forever without them pulling 34 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,680 the hook. 35 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,960 By the time I get to the bottom I'm getting ready talking about I forget that it's going 36 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:03,240 to be talking about because there's so much other interesting stuff that people have 37 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:11,160 been talking about that I want to comment on but this time since Craig introduces me like 38 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,040 that. 39 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Let me start it this way obviously my subject is Egypt and I often start the lecture with 40 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,880 this line because it tends to take to it tends to wake people up out of their torpor 41 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:34,360 which is now going on all afternoon and that is that Egypt is like sex that gets everybody's 42 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,000 attention. 43 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,200 Why does Egypt like sex and I mean this quite literally because you can read all about 44 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,520 it and that's a certain kind of information accurate no doubt and you can look at pictures 45 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:52,880 that's a different kind of emotion of information that hits a different center that's 46 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:59,880 interesting too but in fact you can't understand sex until you have experienced it 47 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:06,680 period you can know a lot but you can't understand it and Egypt is exactly like that 48 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,520 you can read books from Nadal Dunes and if you think this by the way is a plug for my 49 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,560 trips it is. 50 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:20,120 If you think that you can read from Nadal Dunes there and there are a ton of good books 51 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:26,120 out there now and some but are not so good and you can look at all of the wonderful 52 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:31,320 pictures in the world you've been seeing a bunch of them over the course of today but 53 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:38,080 you can't actually experience it and Egypt is what it's it's major importance you might 54 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:45,920 say is it's not that it was necessarily the highest level of civilization ever achieved 55 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:53,280 by human beings but it is the highest level of civilization that we can still access 56 00:04:53,280 --> 00:05:00,840 in depth and come back with it viscerally in our emotional centers and and then in our 57 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:05,800 gut and nowhere else on earth can you do this you go to the great Gothic cathedrals which 58 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:14,440 is the supreme superb sacred art and you can go to the great mosques and temples of India 59 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:23,320 and the wonderful things in South America but nowhere nowhere is there this this onslaught 60 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:34,320 of sacred art and architecture and they have to day after day it's like as a bad analogy 61 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:40,480 it's like listening to all of Beethoven all of Bach and all of Mozart not necessarily 62 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:48,080 simultaneously but in sequence through very good speakers it after 14 days of Egypt and of 63 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:55,120 course if you don't get it if you don't see it through symbolist eyes I'll get into that in a moment 64 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:01,760 arily if you don't see it through symbolist eyes you really don't see it at all and the peculiar 65 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:08,480 thing is that symbolist Egypt that's the the interpretation the life work of the great French 66 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:17,120 actually Alsacean philosopher mathematician, Pythagorean or antelist with the unpronounceable name 67 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:24,480 R. A. Schvaler the l'Ubiques if he had been called Joe Dokes or Bill Smith everyone would have heard 68 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:34,480 about it but nobody can pronounce almost nobody could pronounce and he could pronounce Rene Schwa Leif 69 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,840 the l'Ubiques and get away with it but the rest of us can't so this is why nobody knows about 70 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:49,440 because they're ashamed to mispronounces name anyhow anyhow the so with Egypt they're only 71 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:58,080 on the handful of people who understand Schwa Leif's work it's quite impenetrable well enough to 72 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:04,480 retransmit it and I happen to be the only one who leads symbolist tours so either you go with me 73 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:13,760 or you don't get symbolist Egypt simple as that and and I have a trip going I do them continually 74 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:19,440 I do three or four a year nowadays with everybody scared stiff to go because the press and 75 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:26,000 suits of the media have scared everybody off and made its own does though it's Syria whereas in 76 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:32,320 reality it's probably a lot less dangerous and then Los Angeles it certainly less dangerous than 77 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:42,640 Chicago and but people are scared and no trip goes by without people asking is it safe and like anything 78 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:52,000 everything is safe until it isn't and if you break it down I mean if you look at try to look at it 79 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,680 rationally and fear is not a rational emotion if you try to look at it rationally and just say well 80 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:04,880 just how dangerous is it even if something happens while we're there the chances of view or me 81 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:12,160 being caught up in it about the same would be being struck by lightning it's I mean those are the chances 82 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,240 in fact I've been in Egypt in the 90s they were gunning for tourists now they're not gunning 83 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,760 for tourists well there are the tourists they had a gun for with a big big advantage when you're 84 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:33,440 going there and I did recently because I had addressed this all the time recently I did another 85 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:39,360 for a trip that's coming up in December another kind of update on is it safe or isn't it safe 86 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:45,200 and I did a little bit of research I live in the upper upstate New York and the in Ults 87 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:51,600 the County and I often use the image of how many times have you driven down the road and there's a 88 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,560 smoking wreck and the ambulance is a screaming and you see that this was some terrible accident you 89 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:02,000 see that it only happened about 10 minutes ago so what do you do you look at it and say 10 minutes 90 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,880 it's good thing I'm coming out 10 minutes earlier that could have been me but it wasn't you 91 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,600 so you drive on without giving it a second thought then I chased it down Ults the County 92 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:21,280 relatively tame county rather more let's say culturally oriented than some county in Utah but 93 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:29,840 nevertheless abrid sort of county and over the course of the year on average 1400 people die 94 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:36,560 in automobile accidents that's a lot of dead people does it stop anybody from driving no so 95 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:42,000 you just don't think about going to eat I mean you don't take that into consideration that's an 96 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:49,200 element of danger that said the next trip was coming up very soon but if everybody has or anybody has 97 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:58,720 the money and the will it leaves on December sorry that leaves October 21st and anybody interested 98 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:06,640 to go to my website or corner me here because I'm you know I'm available in public as long as 99 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:16,240 the conference goes on and we'll discuss it now I get started the some thoughts on what we've been 100 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:24,080 listening to most of the day many people have have had up on particularly pattern and number 101 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:34,640 and geometry and the the cosmological significance of of of the consensus of these elements 102 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:43,280 within the cosmic scheme and the absolute certainty that the ancients knew about these these 103 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:53,600 elegant, eloquent, elegant and sophisticated geometrical, numerological relationships but 104 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:04,320 my big question it's always written big question is a practical one what did they expect to 105 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:11,760 accomplish you can sort of ballpark it and say well they are in some way shape or form connecting 106 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:20,080 humanity at large connecting the particular the particular society a civilization that is 107 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:29,680 employing these complex cosmological constants in their architecture but what are they getting from it 108 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:36,800 and the answer is at the moment I don't even write we don't know and it would be very interesting 109 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,360 I would be fascinated and it's something not something not about to do because I don't have that 110 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:49,200 level of geometric or cosmological expertise at my fingertips it would be really interesting if we 111 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:58,000 had some sort of inkling of the practical aspects of doing that because we now know enough about 112 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:07,920 it just the knowledge that has been passed around by Alan and by by just on Scott and a few of the 113 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:15,920 other people there's a lot of knowledge that we now have the number of people have it how how could 114 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:25,840 we or how would we or how can we redeploy that kind of knowledge into our own society in such a way 115 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:31,440 that it actually makes a difference because what we have now and this is another thing going 116 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:37,520 back to Egypt you will forgive me if I digress or you won't forgive me I don't care that I 117 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:46,320 press any of that can't do anything else that what the important thing one of the important things 118 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:53,360 that that comes that comes through when we go to Egypt is that the end of the two weeks you 119 00:12:53,440 --> 00:13:00,960 really understand not just what a civilization consists of a true civilization that lasted even 120 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:09,040 in its diagnostic form 3500 years but you understand the contrast between it and what we call 121 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:18,560 civilization well we actually call it progress which I call shiny barbarism and it is a big it is a 122 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:26,560 come there they're they're almost diametric opposite if I battle on long enough we'll see maybe I'll 123 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:34,960 get into the five cowboys of Apocalypse 2.0 and and maybe the Jesuits of the Church of progress 124 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:41,760 who are science education and the press maybe we'll see if I get into that big surprise and 125 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:49,760 anyhow so this is this is this is one of the most important messages or let's say learning 126 00:13:49,760 --> 00:14:00,480 experience that comes out of Egypt the the the Eddie ecstatic experience of of of living 127 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:07,680 with sacred art and architecture at that level for that long and the intellectual understanding of 128 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:14,720 the difference between then and us and there is seriously a very big difference indeed so 129 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,800 that said there was something else I was about to get into and I just got it but let's see if 130 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:28,400 it comes back I what I want to go through shock when the other things I like about going last is that 131 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:35,040 I don't have to repeat stuff I can cut out from what I was going to talk about in the first place 132 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:45,040 and certain cases implement what others have spoken about so in this case what I want to do is 133 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:52,880 show you first I'll I'll just zip through because shock has done a lot of this but I have a number 134 00:14:52,880 --> 00:15:03,840 of the pieces of pictorial of slides of Egypt that don't illustrate certain of the points that 135 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:10,400 shock has made very very perfectly adequately but the pictures the pictures implemented and then 136 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:17,200 I have some funny stories it's all around them so let's see what comes up next wait whoops this is just 137 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:25,360 why is this not happening you see this is wait why is that not going on 138 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:38,480 help help what am I doing I screwed up something already technology technology and I don't get 139 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:47,680 on showing the zero you said you were going to be what am I doing wrong oh see I 140 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:58,160 I sabotaged the machine I didn't touch the machine and already it's gone now he brought it back 141 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:08,320 okay now which window I press this right that's one I press that okay see it's after it's after me 142 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:17,920 it's me really anyway this is just a wonderful particularly good particularly good 143 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:25,360 black and white infrared picture of the strengths and in all of its regal in all of its regal splendour 144 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:34,800 the next one is why the great strengths cannot have been weathered by wind and sand because 145 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:40,480 there it is in the 20th century early 20th century and this is what happened if it happens if you don't 146 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:48,480 scoop out the sand and keep it scooped out within 15 or 20 years it builds back up here left another 147 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:56,240 10 15 years it would be it would have it would have the sand would have built up so that all you would 148 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:02,400 see is just ahead above the level of the sand so what this means from a scholarly point of view 149 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:12,560 in a scientific point of view is if the academics who I call quackedemics were insistent upon upon 150 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:22,000 saying that it's been weathered by wind and sand and many of them still do you can prove actually 151 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:29,920 through the text that the swing says been covered up to the neck in sand for about at least 3000 152 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:36,800 of the 15 of the 30 of the 45 hundred years that have elapsed since it's been constructed and 153 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:44,000 self-evident to all but the few that once it's covered up with sand it can't weather so that leaves 154 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:51,280 and the weathering as we will see is very very extreme one of the one of the projects shock and I 155 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:59,840 have paramount in our minds is getting over there with a panel of geologists with their 156 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:07,920 varying very specialties various forms of expertise that are relevant to actually putting a 157 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:14,000 date on the swings because so far we can't do it all the chalk was saying up to now is speculation 158 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,960 and all that I will be saying just right now is more speculation will show you why that's 159 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:26,640 consequential the other one other the other things of course we talked about it being we talked about it being 160 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:36,000 the swings is being supposedly the face of cofferad the the builder of the supposed the 161 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:43,120 builder of the second pyramid so we continue this is the face supposedly this is the face of 162 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:50,880 the swings in its recarve form and you see in profile that it looks very definitely 163 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:59,440 African and sub-saharan African it has been recarved what does this mean what was it 164 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,480 what it was it before we don't know and until the run less they invent some kind of technological 165 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:12,800 curly infotography that can film capture the picture of what it was before it was recarved we'll never 166 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:18,560 know so it might have been it might have been the same face but just got so weathered that they 167 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:25,920 had to recarbit or it might have been a lion fully holy the body of a lion might have been a queen 168 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:32,240 could have been female nobody really knows anyway and here's the and the next one here's here's 169 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:40,480 the face of cofferad just keep those in your head for a second okay there's there's the head of 170 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:48,640 cofferad and you see with his with the falcon assimilated into the consciousness of the of the 171 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:54,880 Pharaoh this is to implement in fact a truck shot was talking about about the bird-ed the bird 172 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:02,080 man and so on Horace is the is the bird that represents the return to the source for reasons all 173 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:10,800 of the animals and the insects and everything used in Egyptian symbology has a cosmic 174 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:18,800 and a spiritual and an esoteric side to it so in this case the the Horace falcon is assimilated 175 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:24,960 into the head of the Pharaoh and the message that comes through and it's a brilliant message 176 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:31,840 because when we're there in the museum and I'm not sure if I even have it on my slides but when you 177 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:40,480 approach the when you approach this up total master masterful statue whoops lad 178 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:51,680 no that's not what I want them it I'm telling you it hates me okay oh here we go 179 00:20:52,960 --> 00:21:01,280 you you see how it how it it Horace Horace represents the return to the source the return to the light 180 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:08,800 and so here you have the the the the falcon the Horace falcon assimilated into the head of the 181 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,840 consciousness of the Pharaoh and with his wings spread down here now if you come at the 182 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:20,640 statue from the front the way you would approach it you don't actually see the falcon there you 183 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:27,040 have to go around the side to see that there's a falcon and what the message is the unspoken 184 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:35,600 message is that the divinized or enlightened man or woman doesn't look any different from 185 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:41,760 anyone else it's only when you go around to the side you see the falcon of enlightenment is there 186 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:48,080 so this is an important lesson we see lots of those kinds of lessons in Egypt now we get into 187 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:58,240 so originally this is why I need lots of time the idea was once we once we just got some money 188 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:07,280 together and decided to go over and and make a film of of our work one of the things that we 189 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:19,040 had to counter was that in the 80s was since the early 20th century the the sphinx has been 190 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:25,040 it's been believed that the sphinx the face of the sphinx represents the face of coffra we just saw 191 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:32,240 the face of coffra in a great statue and here so what I originally want to do we're making a video 192 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:38,720 and the loyal opposition in the form of mark liner and a couple of the other guys mark especially 193 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:46,560 in the middle 80s he did a kind of an early computer study and it wasn't very sophisticated because 194 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:55,040 the computers weren't that sophisticated but he he did a computer study of kind of took the measures 195 00:22:55,120 --> 00:23:03,360 or they he took the actual the the coffra head and that's in the museum the one that we just saw 196 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:09,360 and then he plunted on top of the body of the swings and said a hot looks like coffra after all 197 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:15,040 well this is not very sound science but this got a lot of press in New York Times some 198 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:20,960 Smithsonian magazine national geographic all of these things normal I wouldn't felt it necessary to 199 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:31,440 to to repute a that that that connection but because it was so well known we felt we had to do something 200 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:37,440 so I had the idea of using exactly that same technique but plunking down the head of Elvis 201 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:45,280 on top of the swings and and proving that the swings was really Elvis this was everybody was in 202 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:53,520 favor of this idea except the Elvis foundation there there is such a thing they wouldn't let us use 203 00:23:53,520 --> 00:24:00,800 Elvis's figure I Elvis would be turning over and this grave he loved to be the swings so next best 204 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:06,960 immediately my partner in this came up with the idea of bringing in the forensic artist to do 205 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:12,640 comparative studies of the head which is the the the Elvis connection is a great joke but it isn't 206 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:20,000 the exactly science but getting a forensic artist to compare the heads is so we no time flat we had 207 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:26,400 it's frankly me go is the senior forensic detective of the NYPD to come and do these studies 208 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,920 which took a long time you think they look simple they were weeks of days of standing on trucks to 209 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:37,280 get exactly the right angles so you can get the things together and here you see what's obvious to 210 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:42,960 anybody seeing looking at the at the the statue of Koffra that these two these two figures are 211 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:48,720 completely different even though the head the even though the face has been severely 212 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:54,800 defeated of the swings itself you have these reference points these angles which are drastically 213 00:24:54,800 --> 00:25:01,840 different in the actual statue of Koffra the men goes conclusion was that on the no circumstances 214 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:12,000 whatsoever could competent sculptors create the same the the swings and the Koffra image out of 215 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:19,200 the same human being and my criminal partner who without him the whole thing never would have 216 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,880 happened but he stole 150 thousand dollars from the till so we could never carry on our work anyway 217 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,960 that's another long story not not for now and he had a really great line when he got this news 218 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:37,120 from Franklin the mango he said boy he said this is the academics this is bad news and worse news 219 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:43,760 the bad news is that they were that there was an Atlantis and the worst news is that there were black 220 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:54,160 an interesting sidelight to that is that after we got Franklin mango's work in the a actually 221 00:25:54,160 --> 00:26:00,800 I think it when it was exactly 93 no 93 was the video 95 no even earlier it's late 80 somewhere 222 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:08,400 a long line um I had an op-ed piece to do for the New York Times and I carefully left out that 223 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:17,040 sub-saharan African connection because the Egyptians are as prejudiced as everyone else and the 224 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:23,040 last thing they want to know is that the swings has comes from you know deep into the 225 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:30,800 middle of Africa so I left that out but about three weeks later the times printed a letter from an 226 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:40,240 orthodontist a Massachusetts orthodontist it's never another kind of expert in physiognomy and 227 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:46,480 expert in faces who said hey didn't anybody notice that the swings is sub-saharan African so it's not me 228 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:55,760 saying it anymore somebody else anyway so let us continue okay now this is this is the depth 229 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:01,600 of the weathering this is a close-up of the extent of the weathering and here's a little anecdote 230 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,920 that chalk didn't tell but now it's okay to tell these swarming to secrecy which is a bad thing to do 231 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:15,440 any have when when we first started out but when we finally scraped together a few dollars to get over 232 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:23,440 the age of for our preliminary investigation and chalk was as cautious as anybody could possibly be 233 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,160 I mean in two the week that we were there we could get a declarative sentence out of them but 234 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:34,960 he was looking and but he was reaction when he walked into the enclosure we walked into the 235 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:42,560 enclosure this is the this is the weathering this is the weathering on the on the rear on the side wall 236 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:53,920 of the swings and and when we when we walked into the enclosure everybody else that's a gas when 237 00:27:53,920 --> 00:28:01,440 you're in the presence of this spectacular work of sculpture arguably the best on the face of the planet 238 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:08,080 but chalk of the geologist and he saw the rocks and he said wow these rocks look like 239 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:16,240 their hundreds of thousands of years old and that he said don't quote me on that so I haven't until 240 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:24,880 lately but now he's at the closet so I can I can do it anyway that this this gives you an idea 241 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:31,200 this gives you a graphic idea of the kind of weathering what's involved here and this is why 242 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:37,840 we're so anxious to get over there whether or not we can actually date it we don't know but it 243 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:44,960 could even be my sense of it is in the Egyptians themselves talk about in the texts well as a stone 244 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:54,400 steel a colopalermostone that and a very ruinous but reconstructed papyrus called the Torino the Turin 245 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,120 papyrus because that's where these are lodged not that they have anything to do with polarmo and 246 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:09,120 Torino respectively that where the Egyptians themselves are talking about long rains when they have 247 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,960 god kings the nature of themselves which I take to mean human beings who are fully 248 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:22,000 exalted and fully divinized and they give the names of the kings and their regular years and then another 249 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:30,480 long list of semi-divine rulers called the Shamsu Hor which means the the followers of the 250 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:37,680 companions of Horace and again the names of the kings and the and their regular years and when you 251 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:46,400 put that all together you get about 34,000 years, 34, 36,000 years allowing for certain gaps and 252 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:52,320 look when I'm so on so this is the Egyptians themselves talking about their own history but 253 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:58,320 cost today's quacketemics have PhDs from somewhere and others so they want to more about 254 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:06,000 inter-dejipian history than the Egyptians themselves but we don't necessarily have to exceed to that 255 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:15,840 to that conceit and when Shakwas talking earlier about the dates one of the one of the striking 256 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:26,080 things about the swings is that it reeks of a Leo connection and when the sun rises on the 257 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:36,800 vernaly quinox the last time that the swings looked at its own image in the sky was around 10,511,000 258 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:47,920 BC or thereabouts and this is a figure that Hancock and Bobo have zeroed in on and originally 259 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,520 I thought maybe so too but although when I developed the theory to start off with in the 260 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:59,680 serpents in the sky I had no geology to go with and I had to couldn't find a geologist to talk with 261 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:07,520 so I went with the Egyptians themselves at 34, 36,000 without connecting it you know through 262 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:16,880 archaeo astronomy but given the but the Egyptians themselves are telling us the processional age 263 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:27,360 prior to 10,000 or thereabouts BC is in fact about 35, 36,000 BC so I'll go with that for the moment 264 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,480 but it occurs to me given the depth of the of the weathering and Shakwas and even 265 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:39,360 necessarily disagree with it but it could be even older than that and some of the speakers today 266 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,280 over the course of the day we're talking about these you know these the cycles going much 267 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:53,120 much further back than not recorded history stops at about 3500 BC but way way back following the 268 00:31:53,120 --> 00:32:04,480 processional cycles anyway to continue okay all of these all of these are just examples of the 269 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:11,600 weathering and where we're walking there you see that that that the you see that we're on a shelf here 270 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:18,080 a substantial shelf and the original wall is weathered back from that and when you look at some of the 271 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:26,080 deeper weathering let's say there we are, me standing in the deep deep, deep crevice when you're in there 272 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:33,280 you can see that it's almost it's hard to imagine you know have been you know the sea weathering like this 273 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:39,200 on the on the face of the planet certainly nothing that you would associate with with you know with it 274 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:45,680 with a civilization so anyway now more more bits of pieces and I'm going to whip by some of these 275 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,680 this is the cough up pyramid second pyramid and you see that it's built in stage or anyway 276 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:57,520 that there are two very different styles of masonry here there are these gigantic blocks which are 277 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:04,320 similar to the kind of construction around the temple of the swamp and then piled on top of this 278 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:12,960 much right much much rougher core masonry which we will we agree probably was put on there by 279 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:20,960 cough rock but whenever you see two different radically different styles of masonry within the same 280 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:27,680 structure you know automatically that you're dealing with two different periods of construction 281 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:33,840 if you buy a nice Victorian house and it's got an archaic key a kitchen in it nice new shiny kitchen 282 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:41,440 do you say poor these were pretty advanced Victorians hey look at that a dishwasher and you know 283 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:50,080 I know a microwave wow no you say somebody put a knife here kitchen into this nice Victorian house anyway 284 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:58,000 everywhere actually everywhere but egyptology does this this this prevail not when it's two 285 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,800 different two different styles of architecture and no doubt we love built but it's same people 286 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:10,800 here another this you see these these are the paving blocks around the around the 287 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:22,640 cough up pyramid this is one block like this is one block that's one block and 288 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:32,000 that's the block scene edge on so that that block that I showed you about 20 by 30 feet there's 289 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:39,120 six to eight feet thick and the question then becomes even if they've squared dinastic 290 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:46,880 Egyptian how the devil did they do that and then the question again why did they do it I mean 291 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,760 that they have to have had some reason they were not showing off to anybody who could build the 292 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,720 put down the biggest block with the smallest tolerance between the joints no they have to have 293 00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:02,960 had some reason or another those who think that the aliens built the pyramids 294 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:11,520 of a position I do not have a lot of sympathy with say that they could have been 295 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:18,560 that's why they needed landing pads for their spaceships but the spaceships are pretty buoyant 296 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,840 you would think having come from Mars or the Pleiades or whatever and they wouldn't need this 297 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:32,880 kind of of structure to to support their their their their pyramids or their their their 298 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:39,840 paving sounds but this brings me back again I said I digress what I get back to it on on the purpose 299 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:45,600 of all of this well all of the extraordinary geometry the geometric constants the fly and the 300 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:52,720 E and all of these figures incorporated into their structures they have to have had some 301 00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:03,520 probably intellectualized and articulate reason for doing this or maybe not even articulated but 302 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:10,240 they knew it was very they knew it was very important to do it and I mean things have you do things 303 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:20,320 some purpose or another and this is sorry this is a this is a major question I mean this is 304 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,840 something that's a real consequence to us as we see and I will take issue with one of our 305 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:31,040 speakers today that everything is really okay I don't think they'll pay at all and it's going to 306 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:41,520 hell in a hand basket in a big big hurry and it it is it is very important for us individually 307 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:48,400 and collectively if we're going to get anything accomplished at all to come to some kind of 308 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:54,240 a coherent understanding of why they were doing what they were doing and to see if in some way 309 00:36:54,240 --> 00:37:00,160 or another we can get into that kind of this isn't even a mindset it's a kind of heart set 310 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:07,600 that would impel us to do the kinds of structures or to reproduce not reproduce but to 311 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:15,040 in our own way to do the kind of sacred art and sacred architecture that has the kinds of effect 312 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,320 on us and I'll get to this in a bit that sacred art and real sacred art and architecture has I don't 313 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:28,480 know how many of you have been say to the cathedral of Shaka many not so many or to Egypt of you right 314 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:36,320 yeah not so many it's not until you go there like sacks until you've experienced it you don't really 315 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:46,960 understand it and of you know fitting things to fitting activities carried out for a specific purpose 316 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:54,000 is you have to know what your purpose is which always remind me I'm a student of the Gourge F work 317 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,960 and there's a story told about Gourge F I don't know how many of you know about him extraordinary 318 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:06,880 and controversial man but he there's a story about him told by one of his pupils he's Gourgef was 319 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:14,880 talking about school that he had of seekers who were doing complex experiments in raising 320 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:22,320 consciousness and he told whoever this was that they even succeeded in making a sheep 321 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,360 conscious and the obvious question is well what did you do with it and he said we ate it 322 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,000 there's more to this than you think it's not just a wise ass answer 323 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:40,960 so I leave that with you because I can't explain to D the Gourgef you never know if he was pulling 324 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,160 your leg or if he wasn't pulling your leg but there's no point in making a sheep conscious that's 325 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,680 what you can do with eat it you want to use higher consciousness for some other reason 326 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:56,320 okay that's more on holding rocks this is the Ozeran I'm going to zip by some of this stuff now 327 00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:04,560 another another instance of of earlier construction a good friend of mine is about to publish 328 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:12,720 in this inside in the chambers in here and on the other side there are lots of inscriptions 329 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,640 and a good friend of mine and they're astronomically based and a good friend of mine is decoded 330 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:29,200 them proving that the Egyptians are are very in a very sophisticated fashion painting 331 00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:39,360 inscribing reliefs that have to do with with reconciling the cycles of the sun and the 332 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,960 cycles of the moon and procession so this and so this is all over Egypt actually a lot of the 333 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,880 architecture whatever the symbolism whatever the obvious meaning of the symbolism or the the 334 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:58,080 apparent meaning of the symbolism often it is astronomical astrological and it is doing something 335 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:04,400 but I'm not sure what since my question again of what is what is the intention behind all of 336 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:13,440 that not just all of that sacred science but of of of um manifested it in this particular fashion 337 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:20,080 anyway this is Ozerian which is one of the most potent to one of the most resonance of of 338 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:27,200 Egyptian of Egyptian architecture and there's the Ozerian again it gets covered up with water now 339 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,800 because of water table is risen and you get a sense here it's a sense of scale of the size of the 340 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:39,040 of the blocks as mine boggling we continue now over to go back to the tapis shock covered that 341 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:46,080 in an excellent detail but this is an artist's rendition of it early and you get of course it's 342 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:52,800 an artist's rendition but you do get a sense of the unclatered you know when it's not a 343 00:40:52,800 --> 00:41:00,160 jungle as it is when you when they excavate it of what they probably not too accurate but you do 344 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:07,040 get a sense of of the of the overall picture and of course it goes whoops whoops whoops 345 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:19,280 and and of course the whole um the whole thing goes it covers up all over the rest of the hill 346 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:25,200 and there are some 20 odd of these stone structures and I think shock is probably almost certainly 347 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:32,960 correct in seeing astronomical differences in astronomical orientations that they're each of 348 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,160 each one of these is illustrating one of those things which brings us back to the same question 349 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:44,080 Stonehenge really are tossing around 40 ton blocks carefully orienting them to certain 350 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:50,480 equinocts or celestial and equinoctial points but for what um they're getting something from this 351 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:59,040 that we don't know okay here's go back to the tapis shock covered all of that oh this is a 352 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:06,000 little one he didn't cover but this is pretty intriguing this is a little bead that was found 353 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:11,840 in go back to the tapis and you see there's little bead that somebody's hand so there's a small 354 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:19,760 bead and it was presumably um part of a necklace and you're looking at the hole that's drilled 355 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:25,840 and there's very hard stone which is I think a porphyry and presumably there's a whole necklace full of 356 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:33,920 such stones and it makes you wonder well what are they drilling with and okay with some you know 357 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,840 hunter gatherer who's been in an argument with his wife and he says do something that 358 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,760 gets her back on my side so he says I know what got these hard little chunks of stone 359 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,400 I'll cut a hole through the stone string them all together and you know she'll be okay again but 360 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,120 you know you see but because a lot of these things when you look at them 361 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:06,400 what is the motive and you imagine how much work it was how it would be I mean we don't know how they did it 362 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:12,400 we don't know why they did it and this is a big deal this little bead and then let's keep going 363 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,600 you see more now this one this is another hunter gatherer one this is found in Turkey recently 364 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:23,360 it's a bracelet made of obsidian which is a practically impenetrable stone and 365 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:35,200 and they the archaeologist found that the you know the ornament not ornamentation but the 366 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:42,240 way that this is the way that this is cut is is very complex geometrically so again you've got this 367 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:46,880 okay hunter gatherer as they just shot or I know persons that we've got food for a month or so 368 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:53,680 so what should we do now is that let's let's do something for the old lady and so 369 00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:02,960 cut this thing out of obsidian and and then one of them says yeah but it looks too regular what's 370 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:12,240 invent geometry and and decorate the stone but this is dated this one is dated to 8000 BC 371 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:17,920 so these are smart hunter gatherers and another thing on the subject of hunter gatherers 372 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:25,760 there's a story about the American Indians that we're talking about the settlers recently I read 373 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:32,880 that there was there's never been a record of any Indian native American wanting to learn 374 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:39,040 Western culture none and and then there's a story and I'm not sure if it's true story or someone 375 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:45,280 just made up of of of of an Indian saying you know before the white man came you know our 376 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:51,360 ladies our women did all of the the gardening and the plowing and we went out and we hunted and we 377 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:56,640 fished all day long and now they're coming around telling us which you learn their ways and farm 378 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:06,880 we'd have to be crazy to want to do that so this is this is the consideration with we automatically 379 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:16,800 take hunter gatherers as inferior in inferior lifestyle to our own and it isn't necessarily I mean 380 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:24,400 yeah they don't have you know iPhones or anything of that sort but maybe it wasn't so bad if you 381 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:29,920 all you have to do is go outside your tent or whatever or your hot wherever you were living and shoot 382 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,680 you know with a bow and arrow whatever happened to you walking by and having food for a couple of months 383 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:41,040 this is not the worst way to live necessarily and even on the esoteric side even on the 384 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:52,960 on the spiritual side we are again assuming that sophistication requires literacy technology all of these 385 00:45:52,960 --> 00:46:00,080 things but actually for anybody here I probably you get this maybe not having to articulate it 386 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:05,360 to help anybody involved in any kind of a genuine spiritual discipline which doesn't mean a 387 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:10,400 car a sponge and scores in something it means a practice without a practice it isn't anything 388 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:18,240 but when you practice virtually anything particularly anything having to do with with movement 389 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:27,600 with dance or something like that you you could you could be in a in a constant state of 390 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:36,560 put it this way a constant state of ecstasy if the only way the only practice you had was dance 391 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,160 and we don't know where these people you know what what was what was the state of mind 392 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:47,280 what the state of heart that they lived in as they were living all of these years oh hunter 393 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:54,640 gathers no this is maybe they were hunter gathers but maybe they were a lot more advanced than we are 394 00:46:54,720 --> 00:47:02,000 just as for example at living example the shamans of the rainforest they can't write they can't read 395 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:11,920 but they could figure out iowasca and not rationally there are 90 thousand plants in the rain forest 396 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:16,960 and these are two completely undistinguished looking plants that don't grow anywhere near each other 397 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:23,520 and in order to put them together one fixes that I forget what chemical it is that has in it 398 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:32,960 TMT maybe I forget and one is a poison and the body would reject it instantly and the other fixes 399 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:39,920 it so that even though it's pretty violent it's definitely not for the faint of heart but it fixes 400 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:47,760 it so that you go you take it and you have all of these extraordinary what a lack of a better 401 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:55,200 word spiritual experiences well how did they invent who who discovered iowasca how to do it 402 00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:00,480 I have some quotes actually in serpent in the sky of some guy saying well it must have been 403 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:07,680 trial and error that did it you have a trial and error imagine you have 90 thousand plants in the 404 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:12,400 rain forest so they go around they collect 90 thousand them and then they say well let's put 405 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:17,920 this one with this one and this one with this one no they have to have they have to have had 406 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:28,560 they have to be able to observe emotionally maybe not maybe not intellectually even they have to 407 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:36,400 observe emotionally the soul of that plant if it's alive it has a soul the soul of that plant 408 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:41,280 and something tells them to put this one with this one and then has to go through a whole bunch of 409 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,800 processes as we boil to a certain way and then re-boiled and then re-boiled and then outcomes this 410 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:55,120 absolutely horrible tasting stuff that produces these extraordinary effects so you don't need 411 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:04,000 you don't need our sophistication and you don't need I would disagree with John Longwall that 412 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,760 writing is and and agree basically with Plato that writing is is a step backward in a way 413 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:18,080 it we deprive us of the need for our memory and also words change putting splitting things in writing 414 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:25,600 is not a good way to keep them connected languages change enormously and I mean Shakespeare anybody 415 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:31,280 who says they can read Shakespeare just like that and understand all of it without a glossary there 416 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:37,120 that says will by this he's means it's the same word we use but the meaning has changed sometimes 417 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:43,440 into its opposite and you go further back who the devil can read Chaucer at all so the language 418 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:48,560 changes but the myths don't because it doesn't matter what the language becomes you can tell 419 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:56,960 you can convey the myths which by the way are not fanciful stories as John was saying they're 420 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:02,240 not fanciful stories but what actually what they are the true myths on some of them come 421 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:11,360 resonating down through the ages the true myths are the dramatization of the interplay of cosmic 422 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:16,720 principles so you don't need to know the history and you don't need to know how to read and write 423 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:29,840 they the true myth connects viscerally to us and we resonate to us we resonate to it and the myth 424 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:38,080 can be told and retold and retold and with variations but it will it will continue to resonate 425 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:46,800 depending upon the you might say the brilliance of its of its reformulations so ISIS as Iris 426 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:54,880 Horace if you read the myth is kind of tough to read really I mean you don't it's you don't react to 427 00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:02,640 it especially Hamlet we do react to Hamlet is by the way is the recreation or a retelling of the 428 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:11,040 ISIS as Iris Horace myth. In fact absolutely obvious that was missed by most of the drama critics 429 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:19,600 this is not surprising and then recently I don't know how many of you saw it how many of you saw the 430 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:27,040 movie not played the movie of the lion king lots of people see that yeah lots of people saw that 431 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:34,640 well somebody that's ISIS as Iris and Horace again it's the Hamlet story and there are some interesting 432 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:41,600 bits in there I forget who the who the screenwriter was but there's a point in there with little 433 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:49,440 lion cub is looking up at the sky and pointing to the stars and he says to his father lion 434 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:55,920 king what are those and the lion king says those are the souls of dead kings well that's not part of Hamlet 435 00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:02,720 that's not an Hamlet but it is part of the part of the Egyptian pyramid texts and a shock was talking 436 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:12,400 about earlier it's a stretch perhaps I mean there's no point even bringing up such a subject to a 437 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:19,200 clacodemic so you better off just keeping your mouth shut but it is worth considering that 438 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:28,080 the soul whatever the soul stuff is it's very very verified and who would hate to say that the 439 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:34,960 universe just coagulates accidentally out of a lot of gas they're mostly a lot of gas but the universe 440 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:44,400 those what it knows what it's doing so anyway so the myth the true myths resonate down through the 441 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:54,480 ages and are a much wet better way of communicating real knowledge because everybody will understand 442 00:52:54,480 --> 00:53:02,240 it on his or her own level nowadays to understand cosmology you have to be an astrophysicist or 443 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:08,560 I mean really a mathematically adept which I certainly am not but I can understand the 444 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:15,920 I just those iris horrors met out of at a very let's say at a very emotional satisfy satisfactory 445 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:25,360 level so okay more ancient technology this is like I'll go through quickly but this is 446 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:32,080 perfect example this is hollowed out the walls of this very hard green shift green chest 447 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:38,960 bars are the width of the thickness of the lip of that now the question how the devil says 448 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:46,960 they hollow it out we don't know and the explanations that have been given are are pretty preposterous 449 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:54,000 and it's thought we think actually that is just possible shock was talking about this that 450 00:53:54,320 --> 00:54:02,000 after this giant CME event which I think is pretty well established after that giant event 451 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:10,880 the whole the whole planet went into let's say a civilization freefall and so we're wondering 452 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,640 it's more sophisticated than you think actually because if you go to a museum 453 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:22,800 Cairo museum there's a little tray full of couple of casement windows full of pre-denastic things 454 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:28,640 but some of those pre-denastic things this is one are very very sophisticated and not too long ago 455 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:34,800 the the met put together a new york put together a origins of Egyptian art show and there 456 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,920 were certain things in it a lot of it was fairly crude pottery and cones and those things like that 457 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:51,280 but some of it was elegantly realized small but polished beautiful sculptures and so we wonder if 458 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:56,560 maybe these are artifacts from that still earlier civilization because it's sort of weird that they 459 00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:04,640 should be producing you know they should be producing mostly just crudely thrown or relatively 460 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:10,880 crudely thrown pots and at the same time we producing these things that we wouldn't we wouldn't have 461 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:20,400 a clue how to produce today okay these are just more algebraic but on the subject of hiding out from 462 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:28,240 you know from from a CMA or or a next CMA these are in sardinia which is one of the best 463 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:35,040 kept archaeological archaeological sites on the planet these are sardinia full of these incredible 464 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:43,040 structures called niragi which they date to around 2600 BC but we think it's shocking myself that 465 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:48,320 maybe they got them wrongly dated and they date for much much earlier anyway they're pretty amazing 466 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:55,200 that's the ceiling of one of them that's a dome without any you know without any keystones or anything 467 00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:02,720 just just formed out of the rough rock this is not the playa the stone circle in stone circle in 468 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:11,120 southwestern Egypt which even though it looks like a jungle is in fact it's demonstrably 469 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:20,720 employing very sophisticated astronomical alignments and they date it not us they dated to at least 470 00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:27,360 6000 to so BC so 6000 BC they've already got their astronomy together and it's already important enough 471 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:35,440 for them to integrate it into their structures okay that's another not to apply that's just a schematic of it now here's 472 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:49,680 this is they really shouldn't we go back shock us talking before of of of dealing with with the 473 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:56,800 opposition and the notion of of of ancient sophisticated civilization this is the most recent the 474 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:05,360 most recently discovered of the Paleolithic caves in France it's called Cave of Shove 475 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,920 and what's different about it the other the others with the mut with the really fabulous 476 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:18,240 painting our ultimera and lasco with the whole of the bulls that everyone's probably familiar with 477 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:27,440 and these are dated to around 17 by stratigraphy and other means stratigraphy to about 17 or 19,000 478 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:35,840 BC so if they're hunter and gather as the 17, 19,000 BC but they're painting like Picasso you should 479 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,400 if you have your mind working a little bit correctly say hey wait a minute 480 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:48,880 hunt primitive hunter gatherers who paint like Picasso and Picasso in fact learn from them 481 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:59,600 doesn't necessarily not necessarily a convincing connection but here this is Shovey and this one 482 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:08,000 day the quacketemics not make the quacketemics date this one to 31,000 BC or older and this is by far 483 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:15,600 the most sophisticated of all the cave art that they had so again the question arises they're master 484 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:21,440 painters they may be wearing bare skins and they may be whatever else they're doing you know eating 485 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:28,320 raw rhinoceros because they're too lazy to cook and they don't have a big enough oven but 486 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:38,560 but this is this is fabulous art and my contention is that great artists I know some very 487 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:44,560 good ones and they're not primitives great artists are not primitive people they can look at 488 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:51,280 either cave art is the horses I mean this is wonderful stuff and it's much more sophisticated than 489 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:57,280 even these photographs suggest because they use perspective and things go around corners and 490 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:04,480 and why they're again the question arises what is it that they are trying to demonstrate usual 491 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:11,040 explanation oh well this is just hunting fetish stuff they're painting all of the stuff on the walls 492 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:16,080 so that they can go out and hunt and the animals will sort of fall down in front of them and 493 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:23,840 they can they can just eat them now that's to me that's not a good enough explanation 494 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,960 but what you're having this is what I'm saying though that when you're dealing with the date 495 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:40,080 and I mean it's a nightmare story of getting the French archaeologists to accept that the 496 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:47,520 paleolithic caves are ancient caves when they were first discovered I think in the 1870s Hancock has a big 497 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:54,800 chapter it's a really good chapter and one of his books I guess it's supernatural on the battle to 498 00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:00:02,960 get to prove I mean to get the establishment they get the quacketemic establishment to acknowledge that 499 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:10,320 these are actually ancient but these are actually artifacts of a very ancient civilization 500 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:17,120 I mean people the people who are working on it committed suicide a few of them because they just couldn't handle 501 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:24,400 the opposition that was so rabidly against them because it was it was actually overthrown 502 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:29,200 their pet paradigm which are who'll come to when my usual security fashion shortly 503 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:38,880 that's whoops on here the same one that's Boris my criminal partner swinging the digital 504 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:49,760 sledge that is going to reveal the the chamber medital the need the the the the 505 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,920 paws of the swings now we're going to zip ahead that when you saw already at the swings 506 01:00:54,000 --> 01:01:02,960 um now we get the symbol of the steed jipped and what time is it come it's time do I have left 507 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:13,600 oh yeah is that a challenge? Bill we will see about that 508 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,240 515 what time am I supposed to be finished? 509 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:24,160 I can't see out okay I can't see that hey can somebody bring me I forgot to 510 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:31,600 it I think of water was Brian we're Sean Sean around anybody some water zika you there somewhere 511 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:44,000 okay so again as briefly as possible which is never very briefly when Schroller came to Egypt in 512 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:49,760 1937 he had been brought up without even going into biogorovian who's brought up he was a practicing 513 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:56,480 alchemist or a antelist mathematician he'd been brought up in a scientific household as father was a 514 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:04,800 chemist and early on he was not a fiascifist but connected with the acety you kind of a boy wonder 515 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:11,280 he's he's first little pamphlet at age 16 was about patechary and mathematics anyway 516 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,160 I originally thought I couldn't find out much about him 517 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:21,920 researching trying to research it even I worked extensively with his stepdaughter when I was writing 518 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:28,240 when I was writing serpents in the sky which by the way is not for sale thank you thanks 519 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:47,920 I'm what is held up yeah which yeah that's fine thanks which which is not for sale 520 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,560 and the bookshelf here because my stupid publish is sent the wrong book that's not my fault 521 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:58,640 you can't go um that's what published that's why from now on I do self publishing 522 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:07,280 among other reasons anyway Schroller was very interested particularly in the in the west 523 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:14,880 in western her metacism and I originally thought that he went to Egypt in 1937 just on a holiday 524 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:20,400 he was very lucky that he had a wife who was both beautiful and rich good luck 525 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:29,360 and so he didn't have to work for a living he could just be a full-time genius and 526 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:36,240 get his work done actually his wife helped a lot with his work they so he went to Egypt but he was 527 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:43,440 looking for the basis of the hermatic disciplines which from time immemorial from the 528 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:49,440 plateness the neoplateness on through the renaissance the sages of the renaissance all of them 529 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:57,120 believed that their knowledge derived from Egypt all of them but once rational so-called 530 01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:05,120 rationalist science materialist science took over it became a kind of heresy to acknowledge that 531 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:14,240 the Egyptians actually had a very sophisticated civilization get into this in a bit too the 532 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:25,600 the so-shallish while her when and what he was looking for specifically was the use and 533 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:31,920 when he walked when he went into when he went into into the temple of Luxor here this is an 534 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:38,160 aerial view as you say and here is the temple and you see it's totally ruinous but even there you get a 535 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,720 sense you get a sense that it's built you see this is all the skewed off to the side here 536 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:50,560 and that it's it's actually built on on several axes and Schwaller going through this temple and 537 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:56,640 I believe me when you're in on the ground level it's quite fantastic I mean it's enormous temple 538 01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:09,680 but you Schwaller had this what let's say what mystics call a revelation and artists call an inspiration 539 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:16,240 and scientists call a hypothesis formation in order to make it sound as boring as possible 540 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:23,440 so Schwaller had such a hypothesis formation which was that this whole temple was an exercise in 541 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:31,040 harmony and proportion temple was built around 1300 BC harmony and proportion of supposedly inventions 542 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:39,280 of Pythagoras or any way certain of the Greeks about a thousand years later and so Schwaller 543 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:46,480 started put his anchors down and decided to stay in Egypt and to see if he could show that 544 01:05:48,240 --> 01:06:01,600 this was that this extraordinary you know double axis structure was incorporated harmony and proportion 545 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:07,600 and he was incredibly lucky and that the French mission there at the time was surveying the temple 546 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:13,760 to the millimetre so he had exact measurements to work with and he very swiftly proved to his own 547 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:20,400 satisfaction and anybody else's in fact to care to look at it that it did indeed incorporate 548 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:26,720 harmony and proportion the Phibonacci series in fact the diatonic scale as well and then it occurred 549 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:32,960 to him let's see if the next there you have there you have the different harmonies and proportions written 550 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:39,280 into the you know correlated to the particularly the whoops whoops whoops whoops whoops whoops whoops 551 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:55,680 that but incorporated into the particularly the the articulations of the main of the main 552 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:04,880 of the main structures of the main parts of the temple that the corresponding came across 553 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:10,160 to the idea that this represents why he called it the temple of man because the whole thing is 554 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:20,480 as a schematic is is done to the precise proportions of the average male skeleton we think there's 555 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:27,760 an I think anyway that there's a car-sponding temple of temple of woman up in Philai and because women 556 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:33,600 have a different the the golden section cuts at a different point and you know our proportions 557 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:42,240 as car are considerably different but anyway he took this I mean he took this idea and ran with it 558 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:47,280 and the the mathematics led them to the astronomy and the astronomy to the symbolism and the 559 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:53,120 symbolism to the medicine and all of the other aspects of Egypt so he stayed parked there through 560 01:07:53,120 --> 01:08:03,360 World War II and in 1952 he could see trouble brewing and NASA coming in and so on and decided to leave 561 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:14,160 Egypt and go back to France but in the process he he reformulated he put together his symbolist 562 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:20,480 interpretation which which concentrated upon Egypt of course four Russians they focused upon 563 01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:27,920 Egypt is actually a reformulation of the sacred science of the ancients and in my view probably 564 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:35,040 the single most important work of scholarship you know in the last two thousand years because it 565 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:41,440 really does demonstrate for those willing to follow the evidence that the extent of the knowledge 566 01:08:41,440 --> 01:08:49,120 that they had and Scholar opened the door for lots of others among us who can take his work and find 567 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:57,280 not necessarily faults in it at all but places where there's lots more study to be done so we're 568 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:04,480 in the process we think of turning all of history around and I will be getting to this shortly 569 01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:12,000 and I want to get through this part first so there we have different the play of geometry that 570 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:21,120 defines the various aspects of the temple and now we get to what is it that makes sacred art sacred 571 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:26,800 and it's not just that it's called the Church of Sohansau when you're in the middle of 572 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:32,240 I mean if you go to a Methodist chapel in Wales you'll see what sacred art isn't because God doesn't 573 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:42,880 like it there or your neighborhood mega church either God runs away from there and goes to see a 574 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:53,760 football game in the 19th century there was a Swiss early physicist I mean there was hardly physics at that time 575 01:09:53,920 --> 01:10:02,240 but he was a particularly interested in the phenomena of acoustics and he got very intrigued in the 576 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:09,760 relationship between or the possible relationship between frequency and form so his name was 577 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:18,080 Ernst Colodney and what he did was he fastened a metal plate to a violin and sprinkled sand on the 578 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:22,800 plate I don't know where you got this idea from actually because it's not an obvious idea that when 579 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:29,680 would come up with he sprinkled sand on the plate and the bold violin and got these remarkable 580 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:36,080 harmonic geometric figures that look rather like mandalazs with the fact they look like mandalazs 581 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:43,920 is one and this is just photograph is just a photograph of sand sprinkled on a plate and photograph 582 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:52,800 and then they'd called Colodney figures and they'd been let's say curiosities for 100 and 583 01:10:52,800 --> 01:11:00,000 some odd years and then in the 40s and 50s I think that's when it was anyway around and another Swiss 584 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:11,920 artist of the anthropocylists follow a root of stina and and scientist as well decided to 585 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:20,880 do deeper study into the Colodney figures and he devised rather simple devices that will allow him to 586 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:28,800 vibrate different materials but at controlled vibrations and the next few minutes now we'll see he put 587 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:35,840 he called the study simatics from the Greek kimos which means waves so in other it's a study of wave 588 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:48,240 forms frequencies and I don't have the sound because I took the the clips from from the video but 589 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,320 it wouldn't matter even if they were sound it's only a kind of it's not as though they're playing 590 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:59,280 Beethoven it's just a who or a who or an ups and downs of sound but what you're going to see now 591 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:07,280 is a few minutes which is good because I need a break of a few minutes of different materials 592 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:15,440 being vibrated on different medium some of it are powders on a plate at the end there are metal 593 01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:22,400 filings on a steel plate which is really amazing I do some bit of commentary as we're going along 594 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:30,160 but what we're actually seeing is something really of immense importance and Colodney no 595 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:37,840 I'm sorry Hansianny I didn't even give his name Hansianny you exactly what he was showing and on the 596 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:44,720 original video it's a very dry commentary because he absolutely didn't want to upset his scientific 597 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:54,160 colleagues and there's a video called climatics a kind of visually not not very technologically brilliant 598 01:12:54,160 --> 01:13:00,240 and if you google up climatics now there are lots of people who are doing their own experiments on 599 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:07,600 on cinatics and coming up with all kinds of really interesting stuff and this is this is material 600 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:15,520 that should be taught and every at least at the 9th 10th 11th year any high school in the 601 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:22,800 country because what it's demonstrating if I say it's the the relationship of frequency and form 602 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:32,640 that sounds it doesn't sound as others anything emotional behind it but it is actually a 603 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:38,880 demonstration of the famous in the beginning was the word and of the word in other words that 604 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:48,800 that by out of vibration out of vibration comes manifestation and manifestation is the visible 605 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:56,720 and the experiential world that we all live in and here you see it's basis and it's really moving and you can 606 01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:06,320 see why the various schools you know colleges or denoury education to John definition of education 607 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:12,000 Western education that it is it is to the mind what aids it to the immune system the more 608 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:18,560 experience the more exposure you have to it the more likely it is to be lethal so you can see why 609 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:23,520 normal schools would be afraid of this stuff because it actually has some meaning and the kids might 610 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:38,880 get interested okay here it is now it's supposed to start it is this is this is on a steel 611 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:45,280 plate and just watch the and I think these are these are powders like a podium powder or 612 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:51,040 something and this is all I mean there's just a shifting of sound waves and this is what's 613 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:59,920 happening more come on there we go these are the forms that come from where does the backbone come from 614 01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:12,560 our well yes yeah and these are just clips from at the actual videos about 45 minutes 615 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,520 Trilibites anyone 616 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:29,680 all of this is just vibration and different powders and sands and so on 617 01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,240 Dragonflies 618 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:43,360 that starts out just this is chaos on the chaos of powder on a plate 619 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:22,480 and the other things where he's he's photographing your vowels for the AIOU and getting different 620 01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:29,520 forms out of the you know out of the chaotic material now here this is my favorite these are steel 621 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:39,600 filings on Orion filings on a metal plate and it's just vibration it looks like a it looks like 622 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:48,960 it looks like a martial art film by you know by Kura Sawa look at that and that's metal form 623 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,520 the why do they associate Mars with metal with with iron look at it 624 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:50,960 yeah 625 01:17:50,960 --> 01:18:00,960 yeah 626 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:16,960 yeah 627 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:27,920 oh it would be it's it would be a not a study time it would be changing I think anyway that's it 628 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:35,760 they lost the war by the way but nevertheless the demonstration is impressive so 629 01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:44,560 now so that's in other words when to get back to the original you see I do get there 630 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:53,040 where I where I left off from was why is the sacred why is the sacred sacred and 631 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,040 from the harm the harmonies and the proportions 632 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:05,040 grater called architecture frozen music which is not just metaphorically and poetically true 633 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,920 it's literally true and this is why when you go into a 634 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:13,440 where you go into a hot thought temple it's one thing and you go into an ammoan temple it's quite another 635 01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:19,680 an horror temple is something else again they the the the sacred the the architects and the keepers 636 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:28,480 of the sacred of sacred geometry understood that the so-called gods are not these primitive figures 637 01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:35,760 that are divided by by by by simple minded primit by simple minded peasants or simple minded 638 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:42,160 grandizing priests but rather that the so-called gods as soon as actually as soon as you 639 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:48,720 as soon as you call the gods not gods but cosmic principles the whole thing changes 640 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:56,640 as I said earlier myth is the is the is the articulation or the the embodiment myth myth 641 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:05,520 tells in dramatic form the interaction of cosmic principles and an architect or doing the same 642 01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:12,080 sort of thing all of the all of the so-called gods were associated with certain numbers in certain 643 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:18,640 number combinations which are in turn associated with certain ratios in geometrical form 644 01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:24,880 and when those are put together by somebody who really knows what he's doing 645 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:33,360 outcomes these amazing temples and Egypt goes it's very strange let's get into procession and various 646 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:41,840 ways and I'm not exactly sure how but it's at a tight very close to its beginning and then gradually 647 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:50,480 gradually presumably as it as it descends as the cycle continues and it gets closer and closer to 648 01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:58,160 to the dark age to the to the call the yoga it gets heavier and and and less exalted looking 649 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:08,800 geometry still intact but it gets it gets much less emotionally involved but it's there and when you go 650 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:14,880 there it's said it's it's particular it particularly applies to Egypt 651 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:25,280 less so to other cultures to very considerable extent to to Indian architecture but that's much 652 01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:33,040 that's much later there's nothing that goes back to 3000 BC or 2000 BC in India but the geometry is the 653 01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:49,440 same five what five hours okay really oh all right um the you go to the Gothic cathedrals the 654 01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:54,400 great ones and only the real Gothic the 12th and 13th century your Gothic and then it gets 655 01:21:54,480 --> 01:22:02,720 eye Gothic and it all gets the generit and over gets overly fussy and it loses its purity but 656 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:11,840 it's only an Egypt that you have sacred architecture that embodies the entirety of this great 657 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:19,360 esoteric discipline now I will warn me there five minutes and now this is not going to say so 658 01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:25,680 anyway what we're looking at here what we will be looking at momentarily all of these these are 659 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:32,560 this is all symbolist Egypt and all of these figures to try and let's see get a sense of 660 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:38,000 it won't make sense to us a lot of it doesn't make sense to me even with all the study I put in 661 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:44,720 but the only because symbolism is a dead art and symbolism almost dead we don't have sacred 662 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:51,760 symbolism anymore we do have we do have a form of of secular symbolism that is good enough 663 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:58,720 to allow us to understand what's going in and these into these kinds of reliefs and it is that 664 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:07,120 the the political cartoon and but you have to be an initiate initiated into the politics in other 665 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:13,040 words a political cartoon in the New York Times or something else American is not going to be 666 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:19,680 understood by tribesmen in the middle of Papua New Guinea or or in the Amazon you have to be 667 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:26,480 educated into the cartoon but as long as you have some knowledge of it you'll get the point so you'll 668 01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:33,280 have you'll have Uncle Sam America's Uncle Sam in England by just John Bow and well-lead 669 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:40,560 France is the Lebe of Thay and Russia cut into the Russian barrel cut up into pieces like Ozaris 670 01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:48,080 in a certain configuration and out of that you instantly get a very complex picture of a particular 671 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:55,600 situation well that's Egyptian symbolism is like that this is incredibly complex thing to us doesn't make 672 01:23:55,600 --> 01:24:02,320 any sense at all and if I go through it one thing by thing by thing I can say this is this and this is 673 01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:07,680 that and so on but you still won't get an emotional head out of it and Egyptian priest would walk in 674 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:13,280 and instantly get get the whole thing in its totality but now I really have to rush because I 675 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:18,960 thought they were kidding before when they told me this is not a thing this is the so-called cathode 676 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:24,720 ray tube at the bottom of one of the crypts which is not a cathode ray tube it is cosmological 677 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:30,480 and it is it is it is the first where it's sorry 678 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:45,520 right damn it looks no come on I did something 679 01:24:46,160 --> 01:25:05,920 so John help what did I do can I go backwards now okay wait a second okay without without going 680 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:11,600 into a long pullover this is in a deep crypt out of the bowels of the earth the deep 681 01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:18,800 crypts are always where the beginnings of the universe and what this is a representation of is the 682 01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:28,640 the water snake represents vibration or energy it's the it's the prime evil the it's the prime evil 683 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:35,840 the first the first energy form and it's springing from from a lotus which represents an 684 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:41,680 sort of what it does in India it's a it's a plant that grows with its roots in the mud it 685 01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:48,560 grows through the water it flowers in the air it sends out its mildly psychedelic perfume 686 01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:54,400 into the into the atmosphere so it represents the four elements and so this is at a 687 01:25:54,400 --> 01:26:03,760 principle level not as a I mean in real life it does but here we're talking symbology and and the 688 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:12,640 sort of eggplant shape around the around the the serpent is not a cathode ray tube but 689 01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:17,280 if you're a cartoonist and we're talking about cartoons and you have to portray a smell how would 690 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:23,360 you do it something like this and then this is stage one of the creation and then the next stage 691 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:30,400 shows two of these eggplant forms and a different stake and then if you look carefully you see that 692 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:37,040 one snake is completely unfinished and the next one this one here has its scales on and you follow 693 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:42,400 it through and you see that this it's stage one and stage two of universal creation 694 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:50,560 anyway more things as we go through all of this is cosmology the serpent the crocodile on the 695 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:58,160 this is this represents the the axis of the universe the upright hipopotamus representing maternity 696 01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:04,400 or creation the principle of maternity or creation the crocodile on its back representing death 697 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:11,120 of fairly obvious reasons and so all of these things make sense and you make a visceral sense to 698 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:16,960 to the priest who are officiating the public can't go into these places this is in the tomb of 699 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:22,320 setty the first they can't go into these places because they wouldn't understand it anyhow it's 700 01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:28,400 sort of like you know major league baseball it's democracy why can't the eye play center field for 701 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:33,920 the Yankees or whatever well haven't paid my dues that's why and so with these places 702 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:40,320 this is cosmology again going through this is the sun's rays shining on the temple of 703 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:44,880 author I'm going to have to run because I thought I could babble on forever and they're going to let me 704 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:53,040 this is this is proof according to Schweller the ram headed swings outside Karnak because 705 01:27:53,040 --> 01:28:01,920 this is the period the age of tourists moving into in-gassing into the age of areas and appropriately 706 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:09,840 mirrored by the symbolism of ram headed swings which didn't occur before here we go honk and 707 01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:19,680 onk and was at symbol and this is a very important one this is ISIS and Ozeiras this is Ozeiras 708 01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:27,200 who has been killed by his brother set his wicked brother set and he's been cut into pieces but 709 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:34,240 he's been reassembled by his wife and sister ISIS the only thing that is missing is his 710 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:39,760 palace which has been thrown into the river and eaten by a fish and she charms a golden 711 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:49,520 palace from a god-coulso car that is good for just one night and upon that palace Ozeiras impregnates 712 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:55,520 herself and will give birth to Horace who represents the return to the source so this is basic 713 01:28:55,520 --> 01:29:04,000 Christianity but shown as Egyptian symbolism okay more there's ISIS impregnating herself this is 714 01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:12,160 actually the immaculate conception in 1300 BC okay more things this is Sechmed everybody's favorite goddess 715 01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:18,880 anyway and all the ladies favorite goddess who represents esthetetically the fire aspect of the 716 01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:29,280 female principle it is she who is in charge of of basically of of war and destruction and of 717 01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:39,760 healing but healing through purgation it's another just gorgeous Sechmed this is Hathor who is 718 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:46,320 represents cosmic femininity and you see her face this was a big mystery until one of the 719 01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:56,560 one of the women on my trip solved it she's associated with birth and music and and sexuality 720 01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:03,600 and so on and she has sometimes she's shown as a cow or associated with the cow and she has these 721 01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:08,880 strains cow ears and one of the women on my trip I was saying this is such an unen Egyptian looking 722 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:15,600 such an unen Egyptian looking face and she's shown in full face which is very very 723 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:22,000 unusual and Egypt and one of the women on my trips that all well John those it makes sense her 724 01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:30,480 faces in the shape of the uterus and the ears and the ears are ovaries and I check this 725 01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:35,920 ruin absolutely correct then even the quackedemics are now beginning to acknowledge it and sometimes 726 01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:42,560 inside hidden in the ear not in this one actually but you see a little egg in the inside of the ears so 727 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:52,400 they know all this up they knew how to how to sculpt women this is Horace I'm just 728 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:59,440 talking about him before this is a very complicated and very interesting stealer and anybody who 729 01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:06,080 comes to Egypt with me will have it explained in depth but now we're running out of time so can't 730 01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:17,520 help that's that's deep down in that crypt where the the of the beginnings of the universe 731 01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:23,760 this is Sikara the rearing serpents on the on the wall representing the risen quintileeting all 732 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:29,600 of these things resonate with all of the other esoteric civilizations that have a word this is set 733 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:39,840 the bad guy who is nevertheless a great god and they often call him the god of evil there is no god of 734 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:48,080 evil unless maybe it's Dick Cheney the there's there's there's a principle of opposition he who does not 735 01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:55,600 wish he who refuses to return to the light suddenly recognize that it puts a hole if you really 736 01:31:55,600 --> 01:32:03,760 study mythology and you start getting a sense of it you see that it makes immediate practical sense 737 01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:12,800 set is set is he who obstructs my turn my computer on in the morning set is there diswading me 738 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:20,240 from getting anything written but I know this so I know this so I don't have to fall under his spell 739 01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:26,080 even though I do very often okay now we're going okay this is a weighing of the heart all of this 740 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:32,400 oh there's my favorite I have a thing about dogs they're the Egyptian Greyhounds pulling down 741 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:37,680 the animals of the desert the animals of the desert the untamed the undemesticated are all 742 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:46,880 the domain of set and the Greyhounds the Greyhounds there they are are we there the Greyhounds 743 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:54,800 are pulling them down and interestingly enough there's another very good rendition of those strange dogs 744 01:32:55,760 --> 01:33:03,360 and here they are in real life because they stayed pure on the island of Abisa and my 745 01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:08,640 orca where I I'd be say I lived on for many many years and took those dogs off with me was one of the 746 01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:15,040 first people to do and I usually have a dog at the moment I haven't the last one not even very old died 747 01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:21,920 and there are a lot of troubles so I don't have one at the moment okay here we go the the 748 01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:28,240 scarab beetle represents the principle of transformation all of this to explain this 749 01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:36,240 satisfactory this one I could do would be 15 20 minutes to explain that satisfactory but and here we go 750 01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:44,080 okay now quick run through of symbolist Egypt from from beginning this okay at this thanks and you'll see 751 01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:56,880 sort of decrease you'll see it lose it's that exactly lose its divinity but you'll see it 752 01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:04,080 you'll see it what's the way I'm looking for the generate in front of your eyes though through 753 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:10,080 through new king the major this is old king well it's not much much older but old king them is 754 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:18,800 2500 BC two about a thousand BC and it's wonderful right through that and then it gets very 755 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:26,480 decadent decadent is the way I'm looking for so here's our spanks here's the car which is supposedly 756 01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:31,920 older than the spanks but it might be actually here's the car are reconstructed this is what it 757 01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:36,720 would have looked like if you could go to it today and we're intact this does not look like the first 758 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:42,080 stone structure ever done though until go back meet up he was found if this was called the first 759 01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:49,760 major stone the first major stone construction on the face of the planet this does not look like 760 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:55,840 somebody just sat down and said well let's build a temple now it has to have been has to have been 761 01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:02,800 the result of a long tradition of architectural knowledge here you see this is old king them 762 01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:11,440 the inlayed eyes look at back at you they stopped doing this in the new kingdom or by the 763 01:35:11,440 --> 01:35:16,720 new kingdom and nobody has ever done it since very hard to do that it's four different kinds of 764 01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:25,360 courts crystal and you have to know the reflective and the refractive indexes of the eye to 765 01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:31,760 produce an eye that looks back at you like this so once you see the Egyptian once you've been there 766 01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:37,440 and you see in the museum these wonderful statues with their inlayed eyes everything else even 767 01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:43,920 Michelangelo's and everybody else wrote down all of that's that you where it all looks blind and it is 768 01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:49,200 doesn't have inlayed eyes now you got this is hot chap so it's great temple another one that 769 01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:56,080 looks like it's been built the day before yesterday is that wonderful is this face of hot 770 01:35:56,160 --> 01:36:02,480 upset again see how we're going this is a abou symbol of ramsi's the second about their 771 01:36:02,480 --> 01:36:09,760 teenagers OBC and you don't see really don't get a sense of scale there but now you do and 772 01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:17,920 pretty impressive and this now we're fast forward a thousand years and this is telemic art these 773 01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:23,280 in Napoleon's drawings and you see that it's all got heavy and clumsy looking this is this is 774 01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:30,320 imagine this is how clumsy and it's a decadent the art has become and now we're going further further 775 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:39,760 and now it's into Roman times and this is this is in the museum of Alexandria 776 01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:46,560 the so-called barber the bird of the soul here it is a thousand years earlier in a bunch of papyrus 777 01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:57,040 looking pretty pretty refined and and potent more decadent stuff here this guy looks like he just 778 01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:06,080 came back from the orgy or some of my friends last night maybe and probably did just come back 779 01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:11,920 from the orgy there's the shrinks reduced to Tony the tiger and things are getting worse and worse 780 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:19,760 and this is the last gas of Egyptian real Egyptian civilization and catechomes of Komal Jugafel in 781 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:26,160 Alexandria where everything has got jumbled up and really there's no lost all of its purity 782 01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:32,800 the tombs are erected not by the temple itself but by some wealthy family who are still practicing 783 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:39,680 the ancient religion and as you see you know everything is corrupted it's like it's kind of when 784 01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:44,720 you go into it we don't go to Alexandria mostly it's an extra day and it's not worth going 785 01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:51,040 they're just for this and there's nothing much else that's sort of an underground Disney land 786 01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:57,120 and the degeneration continues here are the gods of Egypt on the back of a camel 787 01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:04,400 can't get much lower than that Christianity takes over and as the business I think this is the 788 01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:15,680 Byzantine cross hammered into the the the the the the columns of the temple of Fili which was 789 01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:22,800 the last place to practice the Egyptian religion and originally the the cops took over 790 01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:30,720 really a continuation of Christianity without the science and they were they were respecting 791 01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:36,160 they were taking over the particular sacred parts of the temple and turning them into churches 792 01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:41,680 they were not yet destroying everything it took a while for them to perfect the art of destroying 793 01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:49,200 anything you know we are again these are these are stylized onks all of a sudden looking like angels 794 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:57,840 and what are you happy and now we're back to our sphinx and this brings on the 795 01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:06,640 this brings on a new era you know everybody knows here I'm sure everybody knows the 796 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:18,240 the forehorsesman of the apocalypse correct what are they war famine pestilence and death 797 01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:25,280 which when you start to think about it is actually a peculiar choice the only the only horseman 798 01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:31,760 that we can do anything about pretty much as war in theory we can not have wars in practice we 799 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:40,880 don't do that well with it but pestilence famine and pestilence are you know brought on by nature 800 01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:47,040 mostly and death comes to us all so it's not the stage but these are these I talked a little bit 801 01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:53,440 about the the admiral running out of time I talked a little bit about the the church of progress 802 01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:59,840 which is our present religion except it's not called progress it is called sorry it is not called 803 01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:09,760 a church it is called reason and actually it's not reason it is the rationalization the whole materialist 804 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:20,400 Darwinist philosophy if you can call it a philosophy it's called the result of science let's say 805 01:40:20,480 --> 01:40:28,560 it's what science tells us we must believe we're not believe because in theory they say that science 806 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:35,200 leads us to that conclusion the only conclusion possible by their standards but really and we don't 807 01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:42,640 have time to go into this unfortunately but it isn't it isn't reason at all it is the rationalization 808 01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:52,000 of their own inner emptiness and it is the church of progress is the is the religion of the 809 01:40:54,320 --> 01:41:02,080 actually of the emotionally retarded spiritually dyslexic and philosophically depraved it has 810 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:07,760 absolutely nothing to do with science itself and in fact the top scientist at the max plunk 811 01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:14,160 Einstein kind of level understand this but the rest of the dumb heads don't and it is they who 812 01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:25,280 actually control control the press and control the our educational system and so on and I mean the 813 01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:33,840 martial arts master I used to know would tell me that you do not teach and it's it's impossible 814 01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:38,880 to talk to them it's impossible to let's say have a reasonable conversation with these people 815 01:41:40,480 --> 01:41:46,640 because the said martial arts master I used to know said you know if you want to be 816 01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:54,800 happy in the world that we live in you do not talk about movements who moonbeams to the blind 817 01:41:55,600 --> 01:42:02,400 or music to the death and you absolutely do not talk about sex to unix because they just get angry 818 01:42:02,480 --> 01:42:10,400 and sometimes violence and extending that metaphor nobody is surprised when the unix 819 01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:17,360 sneaker behind the saltons back and and deride his passions but when they take over the 820 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:25,200 palace and called a terrible disability reason the empire is doomed and this is where basically 821 01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:30,880 this is the position wherein now I must say I'm rather less optimistic than a couple of our speakers 822 01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:38,960 here the church of progress it's Jesuits our science education and the press science creates 823 01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:48,240 the dogma education inculcates it into helpless little kids and the press the media tried to make it 824 01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:56,240 palatable to people who otherwise might not find it palatable they have their like the mafia they 825 01:42:56,320 --> 01:43:01,920 have there let's say they have their posse out there these are the five this is a genre original 826 01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:08,880 they have there they have the five cowboys of apocalypse 2.0 and they are I don't know how 827 01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:18,320 time to get into it people want to argue go ahead um they are capitalism patriotism democracy 828 01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:26,000 technology and entertainment very briefly capitalism is based upon the philosophy everything 829 01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:31,280 for me nothing for you you see them all gobbling up each other to get market share nobody else can 830 01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:40,320 make a living they have to have it all and they pretty well do patriotism very bad to say anything 831 01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:45,440 nasty about patriotism patriotism isn't a virtue it's pathological condition 832 01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:55,200 um patriotism was based upon the idea everything for us nothing for them the bumper sticker says 833 01:43:55,200 --> 01:44:03,040 God bless America the other hidden sticky side says in fuck everyone else 834 01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:14,560 democracy try to say anything bad about democracy I don't know about you but I don't want to 835 01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:20,240 wait in the restaurant where the dishwash is elected the chef and tell them how to cook that's 836 01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:25,520 when it works reasonably well what we have is not democracy and it wasn't democracy just 837 01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:32,720 start off with it was a republic but it wasn't a very a very reasonably based republic but it was 838 01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:39,200 if you get into it it was better than it looks anyway that's that technology is a mixed bag even 839 01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:51,520 I registered a lot I would rather go would rather go to a 21st to a 21st century dentist 840 01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:58,800 than a 21st dynasty dentist even though their medicine was pretty good technology really does 841 01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:08,000 have its good side but it also has its terrifying side which people tend not to and it is unfortunately 842 01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:22,000 it is in principle a a moral and in practice much of the time immoral most of our glossy 843 01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:26,720 technology shiny barbarism I call it and shock goes along with me honest he's a scientist 844 01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:32,720 remember and a good one and we don't we don't know exactly what the figure is but we were talking 845 01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:41,840 about what percentage of science or technology is actually devoted to so-called defense which is 846 01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:48,640 really offense and he he wasn't sure either but it's probably somewhere on 70 or 80 percent and the 847 01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:55,840 rest of it is devoted the majority of it to for volatility the bubble head dolls and strike toothpaste 848 01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:01,280 and a little bit left over that maybe is useful somewhere another the internet fits into that 849 01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:08,640 bit and thank god for that because otherwise we'd already be cooked and the fifth one and detainment 850 01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:18,000 entertainment is something you do to kill time before it kills you and entertainment is not art 851 01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:24,080 date opens night symphony is not entertainment and neither is the cathedral of shot or the temple of 852 01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:34,080 Luxor in between it there's gray area that's comedy comedy is a sort of a comedy comedy you can only 853 01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:40,640 laugh and there a lot of people have this tried to figure out what it is that makes what makes 854 01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:47,520 things funny the dog doesn't think that anything's funny even dolphins and and and higher primates 855 01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:55,440 don't tell jokes at least as far as we know much less invent them comedy is strictly human I think 856 01:46:56,320 --> 01:47:06,400 and what it what it depends upon is that it depends upon an internal an inner sense of what is 857 01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:12,880 right and what is wrong there's a morality to it I had briefly nobody would pay me any money for it but 858 01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:24,560 I had briefly a did a stand up act called stand up metaphysics 2.0 and it was it was pretty funny 859 01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:30,480 but except it was ragged just as this is but it worked okay you know audiences liked it and 860 01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:39,040 it was not it was not just casual because there's there's an inbuilt hierarchical 861 01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:49,360 I hate to call it moral because it conjures up some crazy minister somewhere it conjures up 862 01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:58,880 but it's it's called it moral for lack of a better word at the moment and it conjures that it 863 01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:08,240 what sorry and it it conjures the you can only put it this way you can only laugh at what's wrong 864 01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:17,600 so by laughing you're automatically you're automatically acknowledging what is right you cannot laugh 865 01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:24,800 at good sex or good food you can make fun of attitudes to our good sex a good food but you can't laugh at it 866 01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:30,800 can only laugh at stuff that's wrong which is why it's such a rich age for comedians unfortunately 867 01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:36,640 very few of them recognize that they're dealing with a with a potentially metaphysical 868 01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:46,000 with a potentially metaphysical weapon and but anyway so there's a there's a nice area not a 869 01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:53,120 fine line as an area in in entertainment which is a set of shades or shades off into art that's a 870 01:48:53,120 --> 01:49:00,080 different matter altogether there's an area in there where entertainment actually serves a useful 871 01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:05,120 purpose otherwise as I said it's just something you do to kill time before it kills you so 872 01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:13,920 on this is so this is basically the five cowboys and this is the next one because one thing I want 873 01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:25,120 to get to that I almost forgot about almost wait a minute go away okay can we give it up for 874 01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:35,280 John Anthony West everybody wait a minute applause here no I got a five more minutes okay 875 01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:43,360 five more minutes I did not invent this some genius invented it when when Bush stole 876 01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:50,720 the second election I but I I changed the terminology it was originally the red state 877 01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:57,840 red dumbfuckestan and the blue states were America no this is this is this is partisanship 878 01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:05,840 the red states are greater dumbfuckestan and the blue states are lesser dumbfuckestan but it is all 879 01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:10,320 dumbfuckestan and anyone who thinks differently doesn't know what he's thinking about 880 01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,840 but they're giving me the giving me five minutes 881 01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:20,800 as a taric I've been working the last couple of years on a book with a friend of mine 882 01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:29,040 about near death experiences and it's come up unpractically every speaker here about the 883 01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:35,840 experience the transcendent experience that is the the aim the purpose of our being here on this planet 884 01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:45,920 the NDE and backtrack about everybody I'm sure is familiar with the victor who go line there's 885 01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:51,200 one thing stronger than all the armies in the world and that is an idea whose time has come great 886 01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:57,600 line and everyone says yeah that's right but the second strongest thing in the world victor who 887 01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:03,200 go did not think of the second strongest thing in the world is an idea whose time has not yet gone 888 01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:10,800 and since and since all the armies of the world be they financial or or agricultural or 889 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:18,560 scientific or scholarly or even artistic all the armies in the world are formally or de facto 890 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:24,560 in the service of the idea whose time has not yet gone so getting the idea whose time has come 891 01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:31,840 to come this is a big deal and I forget who it was before was citing important books of the last 892 01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:38,320 hundred years or so none of those books cumulatively they amount to something but really there 893 01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:43,280 are a couple hundred of us here and out there there are billions of people listening to Rush 894 01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:52,960 Limbo and and so so getting the idea whose time has come and the press the press the media are 895 01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:58,800 in the service the armies of the media are in the service of the idea whose time has not yet gone 896 01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:06,640 so what is it take to get the idea whose time has come to come and this it's cumulative so just 897 01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:13,360 for example supposedly I've been a searchist but I can't get a real figure on it 898 01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:24,800 Harriet Beatrice does uncle Tom Cabin had a real kind of a real effect in bringing on the civil war 899 01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:30,320 and and the abolition of slavery people have been talking about the abolition of slavery for 900 01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:36,960 hundred years but it hadn't been abolished a couple of things happen that can turn the whole thing 901 01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:45,520 around what we're doing here of islands you know amazing of decoding of Shakespeare and finding 902 01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:50,800 all of these constants in the great pyramid go into your local Walmart and try and talk to 903 01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:56,320 my bad islands discovery it's not going to work even even the mystery of the spanks which got to 904 01:52:56,320 --> 01:53:00,800 millions and millions of people because we put it in such a way that everyone really could 905 01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:09,040 understand it was not abstract science we can only get to a certain number of people the NDE is a 906 01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:15,120 very strange phenomenon and this friend of mine that I co-wrote the book I really I edited the book 907 01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:19,920 he started he was doing all of this research as neighbors David Solomon he was a Christian 908 01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:25,040 pastor very unusual one because he was actually a practicing Christian rather than a preaching 909 01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:30,880 Christian there's a big difference between them with a most part and he was doing all of his very 910 01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:37,040 careful research into the phenomenon of the NDE trying to kind of categorize to make sense of it all 911 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:43,680 and then he discovered started losing his bowsy discovery had a glialma glialblastoma it's a 100% 912 01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:51,920 lethal brain cancer and originally when he told me about his research he financed our trip to 913 01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:58,480 go back to the tapioffish off in shock in myself and and I was telling me you got a right 914 01:53:58,480 --> 01:54:07,120 of book David he's not I'm not a right of he got with this 100% fatal cancer he then decided he 915 01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:12,000 well he said well yeah you know this is this is my mission now I've got to finish this book before 916 01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:18,320 I go I gave him 12 to 14 months he lasted three years not quite three years and we got the book done 917 01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:26,000 but it seems to me see the NDE is something you don't have to use you don't need any science for the 918 01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:30,560 NDE these scientists needless to say that the bunkers are busy trying to debunk it saying that it's a 919 01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:36,800 hallucination of the deteriorating mind well they're the ones with the deteriorated minds and they don't 920 01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:43,680 know what a hallucination is try to define and try to measure a hallucination and turn it into 921 01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:49,120 science you can't do it anyway so we got we bought this book out there and it seems to me 922 01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:56,960 that it could be or anyway that NDE phenomenon this experience that normal ordinary people who have 923 01:54:56,960 --> 01:55:03,280 not meditated for 20 years or fasted or doing done any of the let's say the spiritual practices 924 01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:12,880 that normally are associated with spiritual development suddenly get thrust into one of the higher 925 01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:16,880 realms and they haven't taken any drugs to get there either not there's anything wrong with taking 926 01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:24,480 the drugs but they they get there and it's only for a couple of minutes and they come back 927 01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:30,480 with all of these fantastic accounts which in fact corroborate the funerary literature 928 01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:38,720 of the world since time has begun and this is this is material that anybody can grasp and it seems to 929 01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:46,320 me that science is to a certain extent losing its vice-like grip on the strangulating you know 930 01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:52,720 the strangled grip on our throats it's losing it anyhow but it's going to take it's going to take a 931 01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:58,320 lot or something anyway something dramatic to make it come and it seems to me that the NDE 932 01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:04,400 experience is something that anybody can understand and resonate to. 933 01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:09,360 One more time for John Anthony West everybody. 934 01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:14,400 Thank you. Okay. Okay. 935 01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:17,600 Thank you. 936 01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:27,840 So for those for those that are interested we can meet out at the fireside lounge for dinner plans 937 01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:30,320 the bookstore I believe is building here.