1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,980 all right let's get going uh welcome to the show security uh cyber security expert presidential 2 00:00:09,980 --> 00:00:14,900 candidate and so much more john mcafee thank you for coming on the show john how you feeling how 3 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:22,580 you doing in coronavirus lockdown well you know it's boring as hell i bet being uh three three 4 00:00:22,580 --> 00:00:27,220 weeks we've been under you know fairly severe lockdown we started out in spain because we went 5 00:00:27,220 --> 00:00:33,560 to visit uh friends in spain the day before lockdown in spain and that was serious so we had 6 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:41,000 to escape from spain after eight days we managed to get out crazy and then uh then uh the following day 7 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:51,020 uh our country um i can't tell you where i am um lockdown and so good lord man this is just no fun 8 00:00:51,020 --> 00:00:55,820 are you locked down we're all we're all in the states locked down but john i got three questions 9 00:00:55,820 --> 00:01:00,680 for you right off the bat before we get going really uh is it a boat or is it a house can you 10 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,040 still get weed and do you want to smoke a little bit of weed before we get going here for real 11 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:10,940 you know just so we can all chill out a little bit you know i would love to smoke weed with you but i 12 00:01:10,940 --> 00:01:19,000 can't smoke it uh where i am i'm in i'm in um my communications room oh no no smoking in the comms 13 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:25,340 weed ready you know i just can't do it i can i can drink with you no we're having a hard time 14 00:01:25,340 --> 00:01:31,800 getting weed by the way getting decent weed oh no me i mean with so the the last batch we got and 15 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:42,060 and our you know our supplier is um excuse me is um complaining because coronavirus is locked down 16 00:01:42,060 --> 00:01:49,860 in his supplier yeah and uh in another city and this is where we are there is no way to drive to 17 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:56,120 another city you will be arrested that's a real issue in europe right now yeah no jesus you can't 18 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:02,320 listen and even if you're going to the hospital unless you're driving a patient you can't drive you 19 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,720 can't have more than one person in a car just the driver no passengers allowed wow if you're going 20 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:16,560 to get groceries no passengers allowed so that makes things dangerous well yeah if you get if 21 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,480 you get a hanker and just let us know if you can do it within 60 seconds you can get up go smoke the 22 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,920 weed and come back and we'll smoke here's the thing here's the thing the weed i've got is which is why 23 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:33,220 i'm um only lukewarm about the idea even though i could uh is it shit weed all right 24 00:02:33,220 --> 00:02:41,820 is it near is the weed near could could you could you go hit a bowl and be back 25 00:02:41,820 --> 00:02:50,140 yeah i could janice do you mind go getting involved sweetie with uh with that last weed we got 26 00:02:50,140 --> 00:02:58,940 i get the shit weed no the one the one that's in there well no it is shit i'm sorry i don't know 27 00:02:58,940 --> 00:03:07,220 99 indica so you so you smoke it and pass out and you pass we'll have to keep you awake then after 28 00:03:07,220 --> 00:03:15,500 you smoke so i've got hang on so i i had a little bit of stash uh leftover that a friend gave me and if 29 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:23,600 anybody gives you weed you know it's shit right it's a gift it's a gift it's wrong what the fuck 30 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:32,620 is wrong with it what's wrong with it is it's just shit but anyway oh even even a bowl of the shit 31 00:03:32,620 --> 00:03:41,460 would help so janice is going to another section of our facility to get my and i don't do bowls i do 32 00:03:41,460 --> 00:03:49,300 i do these um small little hookahs and i put uh tequila in instead of water whoa oh damn that's 33 00:03:49,300 --> 00:03:53,940 cool that's my preference that's my you know preferred way of smoking do you drink the tequila 34 00:03:53,940 --> 00:03:58,880 afterwards by any chance oh god no man although i've never tried it why not there you go that's 35 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:04,260 what might happen might be might be good that's a good idea yeah it is 36 00:04:04,260 --> 00:04:14,760 i mean it's nasty looking i mean yeah yeah it's a residue after about three bowls that's a nice 37 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:23,640 mellow gold and mellow color turns into a brownish uh sewage i recommend after every bowl after every 38 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,680 bowl drinking and refilling it yeah just give it a one shot but then you'd be real drunk you'd be 39 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:34,300 that's a lot of tequila yeah pretty drunk well it's a small it's not a lot of tequilas no more 40 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:39,580 two shots because oh really it wasn't you know it's one of the personal who goes i don't want to 41 00:04:39,580 --> 00:04:46,580 do big motherfuckers who has time for that shit no like a bubbler yeah like a bubbler maybe it's 42 00:04:46,580 --> 00:04:53,420 tall wow the bowl is no bigger than this i could go get my bubbler and put tequila in it yeah we might 43 00:04:53,420 --> 00:04:57,460 have a new regiment coming up come on listen first of all the taste is extraordinary 44 00:04:57,460 --> 00:05:02,520 all right you're not going to believe how smooth that smoke is going to be i mean water cools it 45 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:09,560 yeah but tequila melts it yeah so definitely doing that uh from now on we're going to call 46 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,820 brings it back i'll show it to you absolutely then i'm going to go out i'm going to go out 47 00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:21,520 uh with a smoking area it's only about uh five seconds from here and do it and then i'll come back 48 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:27,180 is that going to be okay with you guys yeah why not we'll call it we're going to call this mcafee we're 49 00:05:27,180 --> 00:05:31,100 gonna call the mcafee or something do you want to watch us smoke so you just to prove that we're 50 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:35,840 not uh fucking with you yeah we'll do it here first while while janice yeah how do i know it's 51 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:40,100 weed in there how do i know you're not smoking tobacco how do i know you're not the how do i know 52 00:05:40,100 --> 00:05:46,560 you're not the feds i'm in i'm in a legal state john i'm in nevada i'm in nevada here so this is a 53 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,900 this is a good question but do you want to do you want to watch us smoke weed there anyways 54 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:56,320 no i'm going to smoke with you before you light up let's do it at the same time okay let janice come 55 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:01,080 back with my pipe i'll show you my pipe if you guys took up i'm going to walk out here and took up 56 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:07,860 and then we'll come back and see what we can do okay so all right i like it security expert you you 57 00:06:07,860 --> 00:06:12,640 know you you founded max the antivirus it was a mainstay it was you know you're the first guy 58 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,660 computer viruses and really identify and commercialize it you're you know you're shit 59 00:06:17,660 --> 00:06:22,340 um so i'm so glad to have you on the show because i was wondering if you could help me there's this 60 00:06:22,340 --> 00:06:28,520 thing on our on our uh studio computer called search mine i don't know what it is but um have 61 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,560 you heard of this thing is there any way you could like i don't remote into my computer and help me 62 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:38,700 clear some of this malware off and and also what's the best what's the best uh course of action for 63 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:45,920 hiding your porn browser history there is not if you think you have any privacy then you've been 64 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:51,560 living in your mother's basement and you need to move out i'm serious um we haven't had privacy or 65 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:58,440 security for almost seven years people and then 10 years ago i told people listen antivirus software 66 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:07,640 does not work anymore it's a useless um uh dinosaur of a system that no longer works so i should 67 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:15,660 cancel my mcafee subscription yeah i run no antivirus myself none it's useless because mcafee norton 68 00:07:15,660 --> 00:07:21,040 uh kaspersky it doesn't matter because you're being spied on already by the government and here's why 69 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:28,220 here's why nobody does technical hacks anymore it's all social engineering you want to find out 70 00:07:28,220 --> 00:07:36,300 somebody's password don't go to their computer uh go to their secretary their wife or or trick them 71 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:44,000 into uh giving it to you in subtle um and powerful ways i mean this is that's called social engineering 72 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,160 right and john how has security changed from when you started where you know it was like uh people 73 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,140 i'm guessing at first were just fucking around trying to destroy things anarchists then it moved 74 00:07:53,140 --> 00:07:59,600 into potentially you know people using viruses to steal data etc uh as you're alluding to today 75 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:05,160 things are very different how things changed over the course of the 30 years well you know it started 76 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:15,080 out um as just kids just trying to fuck with the world seeing can you destroy something and how much 77 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:22,460 can you destroy keep in mind every every generation this is uh revolts against the prior generation and 78 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:28,340 against the system in which they find themselves this is this is what life is um so these kids 79 00:08:28,340 --> 00:08:34,500 revolting against authority and whatever it's kind of like taggers in subway stations that paint 80 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:41,340 uh you know everything uh only it was far more deadly um you know could destroy all of your data 81 00:08:41,340 --> 00:08:49,140 depending on the virus um and that was that was bad enough because there were thousands of them 82 00:08:49,140 --> 00:08:55,260 around the world and it just got a kick out of writing viruses putting them out somewhere 83 00:08:55,260 --> 00:09:00,920 um and then seeing how long it would take because there was no one else but me for a year right how 84 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:07,980 long it would take my team to uh find a cure for it and put it out and honestly john did you ever i was 85 00:09:07,980 --> 00:09:11,880 thinking about this when i was reading about you recently did you guys ever and this you could tell us 86 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:19,500 now it's okay uh did you guys ever drop a virus why would we why would we there was sales way up 87 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:29,560 would it if you released hang on there were 10 viruses written every day in 1988 why in earth 88 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:37,120 would i spend a year of my programmer's time writing a fucking virus and putting it out there 89 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:42,640 we had a thousand people doing it for me this is what people don't consider that would be well 90 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,900 before before you started the business though were you were you like uh a little bit of a 91 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:52,200 virus writer hacker yourself how did you know no i've never heard of a virus hang on before not 92 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:58,560 think okay here's my here's my all right there we go oh look at that i can't smoke it in here 93 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:04,840 right right you're headed out so if i do the the local security will shoot me let's get a look at it 94 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:10,000 let's get a look at it yeah can we show the rig there what kind of tequila you got in there john 95 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,860 it's the cheapest you're smoking through it this is queer okay i gotcha 96 00:10:14,860 --> 00:10:26,560 this is not this is not stipping tequila people this is this is filtering i use it as a filter 97 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:31,560 it's cooking wine no i'm gonna go and i'm gonna go and smoke this bowl it will take me all of all of 98 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:36,400 one minute all right okay i will see you guys online because uh i don't i don't feel like 99 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:41,000 connecting up again nope we're here baby we're here we're staying yeah all right i'll be back with 100 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:48,380 you we'll be with you in spirit all right let's do it all right i'm gonna wait till he gets back to 101 00:10:48,380 --> 00:10:54,400 my i'm not okay go for it wait no i'm gonna wait till he gets back yeah right when he right when he 102 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,120 arrives he wanted to uh want him to do one now and one then he wanted to do it go for it do whatever 103 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,380 you want to do camaraderie same time all right camaraderie then it is 104 00:11:02,380 --> 00:11:14,840 uh i will to get high during the day 105 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:20,340 there we go this is gonna be something 106 00:11:20,340 --> 00:11:30,800 there we go you guys you guys not used to this sensation i think daytime i am but uh daytime i'm 107 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:37,500 not used to interviewing people yeah wow hi that's for sure wes is already in his head after one hit 108 00:11:37,500 --> 00:11:41,880 well that's good wes okay that's good wes because you and mark are up first with the questions as 109 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:48,380 soon as it's back i'm looking forward to it i can still read yeah what are you talking about 110 00:11:48,380 --> 00:11:51,640 what are you doing all right all right all right all right here we go 111 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,480 nice one 112 00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:13,620 i think we're gonna have a relaxed john here yeah chilling i thought you said it was smooth 113 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:19,880 there he is all right there he is all right there's the guy 114 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,000 all right 115 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,620 doing wonderful for you here john here all right 116 00:12:27,620 --> 00:12:28,980 oh 117 00:12:28,980 --> 00:12:32,220 there we go welcome back 118 00:12:32,220 --> 00:12:35,920 nice welcome back john 119 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,660 all right i said i like your shirt 120 00:12:38,660 --> 00:12:45,120 this this weed is so fucking harsh hey blue shirt guy i like your shirt oh i like your shirt too 121 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,640 thank you yeah we got shirts over here 122 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,100 hi what's up hello how's it going 123 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:55,040 are you janice how are you yes janice how are you 124 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:00,180 good how are you i'm good i'm very well i like your shirt too that's elon musk blowing up 125 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:06,640 yes yeah elon musk smoking weed that's what i mean smoking a blunt no less yeah 126 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:14,180 we actually created this shirt for for for quarantine it says lock down and turn up 127 00:13:14,180 --> 00:13:14,620 yeah 128 00:13:14,620 --> 00:13:20,740 to charity shirt yeah that's charity you can still have fun when you're locked down right it's like 129 00:13:20,740 --> 00:13:22,480 like what we just like what we're off to doing right now 130 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,060 yeah 131 00:13:23,060 --> 00:13:28,080 it keeps us from trying to kill each other 132 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,120 i was just saying 133 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,580 wait i'm sorry i missed that hi 134 00:13:34,580 --> 00:13:38,780 what's the weirdest shit you've ever seen john do we're talking to janice john's wife 135 00:13:38,780 --> 00:13:44,860 um hi i'm janice john's wife um the weirdest thing i've ever seen him do 136 00:13:44,860 --> 00:13:49,820 the children enjoy um please i don't know if i could say that on on here because there's 137 00:13:49,820 --> 00:13:54,600 children listening i'm sure oh no there's there's absolutely no fucking children listening to this 138 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:54,780 show 139 00:13:54,780 --> 00:14:03,500 i don't know there's really nothing he's not a weird dude no i'm not weird yeah no he's very 140 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:08,620 normal you think so no i'm the guy that when we're in jail in the dominican republic 141 00:14:08,620 --> 00:14:14,380 seven months ago uh oh you're trying to fuck julio yeah that's right no no i mean it was a joke 142 00:14:16,220 --> 00:14:19,820 but i was laughing i was laughing all night long janice was in 143 00:14:19,820 --> 00:14:23,740 a separate a separate building in a junkyard this is their jail 144 00:14:23,740 --> 00:14:28,540 listen do not try dominican republic jails if it's your first time in jail 145 00:14:28,540 --> 00:14:33,980 i'll recommend yeah um how did you how'd you get out but i was laughing all night long janice is 146 00:14:33,980 --> 00:14:38,220 pissed off the next day because not really i was laughing all night i was not pissed off because 147 00:14:38,220 --> 00:14:43,340 you're laughing i was pissed because i was tired i was hungry we were supposed to be on a flight we 148 00:14:43,340 --> 00:14:48,220 weren't even supposed to be at that location they were supposed literally they said they were taking 149 00:14:48,220 --> 00:14:53,500 us to the airport and they took us to another fucking jail yeah we've been in jail for three 150 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:58,380 days and then they took us to the worst yeah that's what i was pissed off of a jail you've 151 00:14:58,380 --> 00:15:03,420 ever seen i get pissed off when i'm in jail too janice yeah right it's just in hell because 152 00:15:03,420 --> 00:15:03,900 the virus 153 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:08,300 but they didn't do that there that's like when the parents that's like when the parents say we're going 154 00:15:08,300 --> 00:15:13,420 to get ice cream to take them to like a doctor now i can tell you some strange things that night 155 00:15:13,420 --> 00:15:16,940 that night please pull the chair i want to talk about okay oh yes darling i'll pull the chair okay 156 00:15:16,940 --> 00:15:21,740 yes pull up the chair janice will have to help me tell this can you get on this side about sitting 157 00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:35,260 in that chair oh no no no i'll come over here come over over over over over all right nice check all 158 00:15:35,260 --> 00:15:40,940 right you ready almost let's turn that teeter off because now i'm frying 159 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:51,580 okay so now all right let us tell you the story uh of the dominican republic so 160 00:15:51,580 --> 00:15:56,060 now mind you okay let's first can we just give some clarity to everyone out there okay 161 00:15:56,700 --> 00:16:07,740 we have not been home in america since january 22nd of 2019 21st wait 17th no 17th january 17th of 162 00:16:07,740 --> 00:16:15,420 2019 okay so technically we're like the super ogs of quarantine because you know we're away from our 163 00:16:15,420 --> 00:16:20,460 family and friends okay but anyways let's catch you up to the dominican republic so we got kicked out of 164 00:16:20,460 --> 00:16:28,540 cuba they were um hard to do yeah right yeah well i tell you what it was easy for us by the way we'd 165 00:16:28,540 --> 00:16:33,900 gotten thrown not thrown out but they came to arrest us in the bahamas and we we found out about it 166 00:16:33,900 --> 00:16:41,500 that it's on behalf of the u.s government okay um we found out about it left went to cuba cuba called us 167 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:48,220 in after two months in cuba yeah the government uh into an army barracks when a general came in sat down 168 00:16:48,220 --> 00:16:56,140 very politely said uh uh you have been um we have been asked by the us government to return you to 169 00:16:56,140 --> 00:17:05,020 america um in exchange for various concessions we are disinclined to do that however you're now a 170 00:17:05,020 --> 00:17:12,540 problem uh we have 72 hours to leave the country janice was there and we we got this notice 72 hours so now 171 00:17:12,540 --> 00:17:19,500 i was kind of nice i really like cuba cuba was so nice no cuba was talking awesome people there are 172 00:17:19,500 --> 00:17:24,380 amazing jesus god is that a fun country yeah and that's the most fun place i've ever been 173 00:17:26,540 --> 00:17:32,460 like to go fishing in cuba with a cuban cigar that would be nice yeah we had a nice cigar experience 174 00:17:32,460 --> 00:17:39,820 too it's really nice anyway um so we get thrown out of cuba after we've been thrown out of the bahamas 175 00:17:39,820 --> 00:17:45,660 and everybody says the same thing just go back to america uh cuban said no we're not sending him 176 00:17:45,660 --> 00:17:53,820 back when we were four days at sea in very rough on our way to the dominican republic no one but the 177 00:17:53,820 --> 00:17:58,140 people that were on board knew that we were going to the dominican republic okay what type of vessel are 178 00:17:58,140 --> 00:18:06,940 you on what's we were on a seven four foot uh buddy davis uh yacht um yes it was yeah it was i mean it 179 00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:11,740 was not a fun ride at all it was rough the dogs were throwing up some of the crew were throwing 180 00:18:11,740 --> 00:18:17,500 up we it was rough and we didn't have enough food we have ten we have ten people and four big dogs on 181 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:24,620 yes how long how long is that trip four and a half days four and a half days dogs are dogs funny to 182 00:18:24,620 --> 00:18:30,540 watch in a choppy boat because uh some of them are they lay down mostly they don't they don't like to move 183 00:18:30,540 --> 00:18:35,820 around so much but when they were very comfortable and just so everyone understands also we weren't just 184 00:18:35,820 --> 00:18:41,020 anchored out with our dogs on the boat you know we were at you know we were at a harbor where they 185 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:46,460 got plenty of exercise and running so the only time they were confined to the boat was while we were 186 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:53,900 at sea yes which was not very often because i don't do at sea okay that's why i took four and a half days 187 00:18:53,900 --> 00:19:02,220 janice yes well yeah well no it was just a long trip it's a long trip from havana to uh dominican yeah 188 00:19:02,220 --> 00:19:07,740 because we couldn't go anywhere else because everywhere else would be too much riskier that 189 00:19:07,740 --> 00:19:12,620 um you know america still no one knew where we're going because i made that decision after we left 190 00:19:12,620 --> 00:19:18,380 port and were at sea and then i told the captain we're going to the dominican republic our listeners 191 00:19:18,380 --> 00:19:23,580 might not know why you were on this journey or what you may have been running for okay so what happened 192 00:19:23,580 --> 00:19:29,980 is that we were charged with tax fraud john was okay he found out information about um they were going to be 193 00:19:29,980 --> 00:19:39,580 um convening a grand jury uh january uh 20 seconds or something anyways and so yes what john said sorry 194 00:19:39,580 --> 00:19:45,180 and so they charged both he and i with tax fraud and um some other people that were employed by john 195 00:19:45,180 --> 00:19:49,660 with tax fraud for me it's crazy i've never filed taxes so i don't know how you can 196 00:19:50,540 --> 00:19:58,940 be and for me i stopped paying taxes 10 years ago because well i had already paid 50 over 50 million 197 00:19:58,940 --> 00:20:04,300 dollars in taxes so that was enough i have not received 50 million dollars in services from the 198 00:20:04,300 --> 00:20:12,540 u.s government so enough is enough um but for the real reason is it's fraud i mean it's theft 199 00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:19,660 it's um uh it's illegal it's unconstitutional why are you putting up with it i'm sorry if you have this 200 00:20:19,660 --> 00:20:25,340 charge does this block you from running for president this year no of course not the charge is not a crime 201 00:20:25,340 --> 00:20:30,940 you understand oh okay oh okay but it would have to be a totally online campaign 202 00:20:31,580 --> 00:20:35,820 pardon it would have to be totally guilty it would change things he's just been charged yeah but if 203 00:20:35,820 --> 00:20:40,860 you don't step foot in the u.s until an audition yeah no hey listen plus you know i don't know i mean 204 00:20:40,860 --> 00:20:48,060 to to be charged by the irs is kind of a badge of god damn i've done the right thing in life 205 00:20:48,060 --> 00:21:01,020 but here's the truth of it so 10 years ago i stopped paying i said i'm not paying i'm not filing 206 00:21:01,020 --> 00:21:07,820 i'm not filing i'm not not paying i did not file told them no information about anything um which is 207 00:21:07,820 --> 00:21:14,460 not illegal not illegal no the the um it's also not illegal for them to come take your shit right 208 00:21:14,460 --> 00:21:21,260 it's not illegal for them to come and take all your shit yeah back and forth okay so yeah it's not 209 00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:28,860 illegal but they're going to take all your stuff so now uh so i go you know and for eight years 210 00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:36,220 they paid me no attention finally two years ago i started going on international stages in london 211 00:21:37,020 --> 00:21:46,940 after you ran malta and stockholm and where were we in bucharest and china and everywhere um saying 212 00:21:46,940 --> 00:21:54,060 you don't want to pay taxes people use privacy coins and distributed exchanges no one will ever 213 00:21:54,060 --> 00:22:00,620 know what your finances really are work for people who pay you in crypto and buy everything with crypto 214 00:22:01,260 --> 00:22:10,140 and so that they didn't like that so now i got charged with tax fraud however i ask you something 215 00:22:10,140 --> 00:22:23,020 fraud means i have lied uh or uh given false information uh on my statement right fraudulently 216 00:22:23,020 --> 00:22:28,620 i fraudulently put down oh i only made 50 000 when i made 50 million no good i didn't put anything 217 00:22:28,620 --> 00:22:36,780 down there's no statement that i could be fraudulent so shouldn't it be tax evasion right tax fraud like 218 00:22:38,540 --> 00:22:44,700 it's not even tax evasion tax evasion is you trying to evade it i'm refusing to pay it different thing 219 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:51,020 i'm not trying to evade my taxes i told them up front every single year i'm not paying you can't be 220 00:22:51,020 --> 00:22:57,020 evading something while you're standing there with your arms open please people it's fair you're not 221 00:22:57,020 --> 00:23:03,820 evading it yeah that's true no i'm i'm refusing to pay it i guess it is all in the phrase it is 222 00:23:03,820 --> 00:23:11,580 sounds like evasion no it's not it's not evasion means you are it may it means you're you're hiding 223 00:23:11,580 --> 00:23:17,340 your assets so they can't be filmed you're you're no okay i'm just saying you're paying it putting it 224 00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:23,740 in your dog's name yeah putting it in your dog's name no yeah that's evasion no no just say i'm not 225 00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:31,500 paying it have you not learned this that fuck you irs i'm not paying you anything yeah i know 226 00:23:34,140 --> 00:23:40,700 so now so now so now you now you have to leave in january 2019 because of the tax whatever and then 227 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:46,140 the first place you went you said was cuba or where was the first place no no no bahamas and i figured 228 00:23:46,140 --> 00:23:51,740 i went to the bahamas because i knew i couldn't be legally extradited because and so what he decides 229 00:23:51,740 --> 00:23:59,900 is because okay so the the um the caveat of us going to the bahamas was that in the bahamas income 230 00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:04,860 tax is not it's not a thing they don't have it they have no income tax they're not paying it it's not 231 00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:11,980 a crime exactly so we're evading it it's not a crime so i but i knew once we got there we wouldn't take 232 00:24:11,980 --> 00:24:17,820 long before they would illegally because it's u.s government push them above us and then also he 233 00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:22,620 decides in that yeah you can't come and get me so i'm gonna thumb my nose at you and say hey 234 00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:30,300 here i am yes i'm standing on the beach in the bahamas going fuck you fuck you i'm not paying taxes 235 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:39,980 right what uh 86 miles from america so now you know that pissed them off a little anyway so this the the 236 00:24:39,980 --> 00:24:45,740 thing they came up with was uh they bribed the the commissioner's police paul roll with i don't know how 237 00:24:45,740 --> 00:24:52,380 what's maybe fifty thousand dollars just arrest me on any fucking grounds at all and charge me 238 00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:59,500 right uh at that point i'm now an undesirable alien charged with a crime on bahamian soil 239 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:06,860 like mexicans come over and rob a liquor store and expect to get justice right i'm sorry yes 240 00:25:06,860 --> 00:25:12,620 yes bribed the the bahamian officials a representative yeah a representative of the 241 00:25:12,620 --> 00:25:18,620 u.s government um not the entire u.s government but he has a representative yes he's asking what 242 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:25,580 that the u.s government bribed oh yeah they bribed people they do what they want 243 00:25:25,580 --> 00:25:32,060 they threaten people if you don't believe it read the news but nevertheless so let's get back to 244 00:25:32,060 --> 00:25:36,620 john if you had your best if you had your best guess what like agency you think would it be from 245 00:25:36,620 --> 00:25:41,660 the u.s government that bribed oh any three-letter agency it could be anything it's the fbi in collusion 246 00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:46,220 with the cia right they won't they're not going to call it collusion they call it cooperation 247 00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:58,300 uh the cia cooperated with the fbi in this major uh tax scam mcafee which will be headlines you 248 00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:09,100 understand if they do collect it iris finally catches mcafee well won't that be a day anyway um 249 00:26:09,980 --> 00:26:15,900 so if you if you happen to run into the situation where you do get caught and extradited back to the 250 00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:19,260 u.s what janice is saying is you would go to jail for the rest of your life she thinks or 251 00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:25,740 not for that no not for tax evasion but for whatever they want oh i'll never see the light 252 00:26:25,740 --> 00:26:30,140 of day again and you will never hear another one from it maybe they don't understand why this is 253 00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:35,660 happening in the first place so because i mean it goes back to beliefs and the information that you 254 00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:39,900 have because people don't understand why you're running anyways and but maybe just tell us let's 255 00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:48,060 let's finish the story of the dominican republic i'm getting so off track so so now we're at sea in 256 00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:53,020 rough weather and we get to the dominican republic and they're waiting for us so we get there you 257 00:26:53,020 --> 00:26:59,500 know we're tired we're just happy to fucking see the dominican republic and so we're you know excited 258 00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:04,620 to get some food and everything but they just keep us sitting waiting as soon as we dock i notice 259 00:27:04,620 --> 00:27:10,220 something's wrong yeah there are soldiers yes soldiers soldiers everywhere with with fully 260 00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:16,700 automatic weapons and customs and immigration does not come down to the boat because you got to sit 261 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:25,180 on your boat until until they give you permission to stand on dominican republic soil not very welcoming 262 00:27:25,180 --> 00:27:29,820 it's not exactly the welcome party yes it's not exactly well no but but no no but in every no no 263 00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:36,140 in every port when you come in you can't get off the boat you just wait until immigration first comes 264 00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:42,140 and says let me see your passports i did you may now step off the boat onto dominican soil yes and 265 00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:47,100 then the procedure before that you're not in the minican republic and the procedure with that is also we 266 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:51,820 had to declare you know what we had so we like weapons so we had our weapons ready to be declared 267 00:27:51,820 --> 00:27:57,500 out on the tables what kind of oh wait wait wait what kind of weapons are we talking here what's 268 00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:04,060 the coolest weapons you guys had at the time well it depends on what for what purpose okay she liked 269 00:28:04,060 --> 00:28:14,460 the vanilla automatic shotgun um you know i like my specially modified uh ar-15 uh with some serious 270 00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:21,740 with a binary trigger uh you know the binary trigger is oh you pull it i'm sorry it's a good 271 00:28:21,820 --> 00:28:29,020 you pull it it fires you let it off it fires oh wow you pull it it fires you let it go 272 00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:36,700 faster than a machine so in any case oh so we had that was my favorite weapon 273 00:28:38,540 --> 00:28:44,620 uh yeah a couple of pistols you know they they called me they called me the buyer by their machine 274 00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:51,820 gun in college you know what i mean yes so you do know what you you have used a binary trigger yes 275 00:28:51,820 --> 00:28:55,900 that's right no no no no he has no idea what he's talking about no we we 276 00:28:57,660 --> 00:29:03,900 are you guys not gun guys no well not i own some but not not a binary we don't we own guns but in 277 00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:14,220 college they call me that for a different reason let's move on so the guns are out on the table 278 00:29:15,580 --> 00:29:22,940 yeah unloaded unchambered uh uh with the uh slide we're always armed even when we're not armed we're 279 00:29:22,940 --> 00:29:30,940 armed i heard someone ask if you had a gun no don't show it don't show it don't show it yeah we've 280 00:29:30,940 --> 00:29:38,540 been done no okay no yeah if this goes on youtube they're listening live you can't show a gun anymore 281 00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:44,220 are you kidding me you can't show a gun no no no no no he's 282 00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:58,380 he's that's an ak-47 and that's that's the one that's got the the double that's got the double 283 00:29:58,380 --> 00:30:05,900 trigger now i am not no hang on this is an ak-47 people yeah i can't get ar-15s over here um 284 00:30:07,420 --> 00:30:12,460 let's let you know i'm not in america because this this would not be my weapon of choice 285 00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:18,300 if it were if i were able to get an ar-15 keep in mind all those guns and ship were confiscated 286 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:26,060 gone boats gone um so in any case let me get this back well you're still able to maintain an arsenal 287 00:30:26,060 --> 00:30:34,140 which is impressive you know you have to we keep on having to recreate it they took all of our guns 288 00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:41,580 all right okay so dominican republic republic so in any case it's pretty clear we're not allowed to 289 00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:47,420 talk to immigration nor customs nor to get off the boat while more and more people come finally 290 00:30:47,420 --> 00:30:55,260 this short motherfucker short cropped hair with a black suit black pants black tie comes and introduces 291 00:30:55,260 --> 00:31:00,380 himself and says hello i am the prosecutor i go okay in spanish 292 00:31:00,380 --> 00:31:15,580 i am so now i know i'm not talking to immigration or the customs which they never let us do uh and so 293 00:31:15,580 --> 00:31:20,140 they were on my boat illegally because i haven't docked legally i haven't got possible yet i'm not 294 00:31:20,140 --> 00:31:27,580 in the dimension republic and they get on my boat from internal not it's not the coast guard not the navy 295 00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:38,780 no no it's internal executive security oh yeah the special forces that the president of the dominican 296 00:31:38,780 --> 00:31:49,500 republic uses to uh terrorize his rivals um raid small villages and may bring haiti when nobody's watching 297 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:56,700 and ship like that they're like was it that's who i'm talking to i'm sorry i yes the g es in um in belize 298 00:31:56,700 --> 00:32:02,620 was it the gang and four that was the uh the gsu the gang suppression unit yeah no i'm used to this 299 00:32:02,620 --> 00:32:08,860 shit trust me this is nothing new for me yeah so that that was more serious the gsu yeah well 300 00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:16,940 mother fucking hell the time i had with those people it was a very unpleasant time but that's another 301 00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:22,140 story we're now in the dominican republic and the equivalent of the gsu only now 302 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:30,620 there's already international attention people waiting for us photos are being taken john mcathy's 303 00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:38,220 boat and the dominican harbor raided and all this isn't fun because we're right in an area 304 00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:44,860 that's surrounded by hotels and our friends are on on the porch waiting for us and so all this is being 305 00:32:44,860 --> 00:32:51,980 filmed and as soon as he got into social media half an hour later even before we were formally arrested 306 00:32:51,980 --> 00:33:02,140 it was in the news um check that period out okay july of last year until like 48 hours later 307 00:33:02,140 --> 00:33:08,460 yeah we were not we were detained but not formally arrested for and for another 48 hours another two 308 00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:18,860 days and then the game started meanwhile i managed to get two lawyers in the dominican republic on my payroll 309 00:33:18,860 --> 00:33:26,860 why because i had i had we needed a lawyer huh we well it was just we needed a lawyer we need a lawyer 310 00:33:26,860 --> 00:33:35,180 plus i had a hundred thousand dollars in cash on my person 25 000 which i paid them immediately 311 00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:43,500 in cash now how did i do that i've been in more jails than any man on this planet at least in different 312 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:51,900 countries and i know how to do shit but anyway so um is that anything to do with bitcoin have nothing 313 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:58,460 whatsoever listen bitcoin doesn't do jack shit when you're dealing with soldiers that have loaded 314 00:33:58,460 --> 00:34:05,900 different set of skills yeah fair enough so no only cash is only cash cash is king when it comes to the 315 00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:11,020 underworld and i consider the dominican republic to be as underworld as you can ever get 316 00:34:11,660 --> 00:34:18,700 in any case so now uh three days later they tell us we're going to immigration and that i'm going 317 00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:24,060 to get to go to england with my wife which is all i wanted the other people are staffed they're going 318 00:34:24,060 --> 00:34:33,740 to go back to their homes perfect so they come and pick us up we're surrounded by again people with guns 319 00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:43,100 we drive at some mad pace from uh wherever we were across to santo domingo it took forever 320 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:47,180 fucking forever they stopped on the side of the highway to pick up someone's dinner 321 00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:53,580 and they were supposed to be taking us to the airport all right this is when they were supposed 322 00:34:53,580 --> 00:34:57,180 to be taking us to the airport and they take us to another jail and then instead of going to the 323 00:34:57,180 --> 00:35:03,100 airport they take us to the end of nowhere which is really a junkyard there was a junkyard yes right 324 00:35:03,660 --> 00:35:09,980 there and some raggedy old buildings that looked like they were horrific detention and thank god 325 00:35:09,980 --> 00:35:15,180 those things were closed down uh at the end of the dark ages no no they're still open that's where we 326 00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:24,540 spent the night but before that before that it's clear to me that somebody in the middle that doesn't 327 00:35:24,540 --> 00:35:32,460 understand the upper thing said you know we're gonna we're gonna kill this guy yes that's what 328 00:35:32,460 --> 00:35:37,660 that's what their plan was they had us counting how does counting his money uh you know hundred dollar 329 00:35:37,660 --> 00:35:44,220 bills in the middle of the street under right now this is after we got to that major that ugly detention 330 00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:50,380 cellar and it's 11 o'clock at night we don't have it they have a cardboard box in the middle of the 331 00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:59,180 street under the only light there is which is a street light um and um counting i said i'm counting 332 00:35:59,180 --> 00:36:06,140 the money and they're going to about to take and i said whoa receipt right i figured they're going to 333 00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:11,660 take the money and kill us but i've been in this position so i go receipt now meanwhile although janice 334 00:36:11,660 --> 00:36:20,060 didn't do this yet oh no i was i was cussing and fussing janice janice okay okay well tell this part 335 00:36:20,060 --> 00:36:25,100 because okay so now so in any case for the receipt and they gave and they while they were getting the 336 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:30,620 receipt you know i was no no they didn't that's not how it worked okay so in any case that's what you 337 00:36:30,620 --> 00:36:35,420 wanted to tell them how let me let me tell them the receipt part so now so i asked for receipt and 338 00:36:35,420 --> 00:36:43,180 they're looking at each other like uh what you know right like did we just hear that we've got the 339 00:36:43,180 --> 00:36:51,420 guns right it's 11 o'clock at night no one knows where the fuck you are dude i go on my seat so somebody 340 00:36:52,060 --> 00:37:02,380 fortunately fortunately goes inside to some raggedy old building and out comes a colonel right 341 00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:05,740 who's pretty much unaware of what's going on 342 00:37:05,740 --> 00:37:15,580 what's going on so i shake hands and in spanish uh lo siento uh senor uh senor colonel um and 343 00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:26,060 this to sito recita and tiende instead and i reached out with my hand and he reached his out and we 344 00:37:26,060 --> 00:37:35,420 shook as two gentlemen would now even in a corrupt mother fucking country like the dominican republic 345 00:37:35,980 --> 00:37:42,620 someone with the rank of a colonel is not going to whack someone which the news is fully aware of 346 00:37:42,620 --> 00:37:51,580 right for a mere uh it's now only 75 000 because i've given 25 000 to my lawyers no for a mere 25 347 00:37:51,580 --> 00:37:58,540 000 75 000 are you stupid so i could see him looking at your word for it this is all news to us 348 00:37:58,540 --> 00:38:04,780 i'm sorry no that makes sense i mean dominicans still like people travel there it's a tourist spot 349 00:38:04,780 --> 00:38:09,820 they don't want that they don't want that they don't want that shit for nothing well listen the lower 350 00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:16,620 downs the scarja no no no i understand first of all most of them can't if i was a lower down i would 351 00:38:16,620 --> 00:38:21,180 have shot you and taken the 75 grand i get it from both sides i mean if i was yeah right so but in any 352 00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:28,860 case in any case you know bluffing works tremendously well if you are confident and 353 00:38:28,860 --> 00:38:35,180 not afraid now after that things are fine not after that it was during see this is what i was 354 00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:41,980 trying to tell you okay but at some point in this janice and this is after i had he noticed that i was 355 00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:47,420 cussing everybody out because i was pissed off because they wanted to search my belongings again 356 00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:54,940 okay i was tired i was hungry i was supposed to be at an airport now we're separated from our 357 00:38:54,940 --> 00:38:59,980 attorneys so yeah everybody was hearing my mouth plus they tried to kill us the night before but 358 00:38:59,980 --> 00:39:05,900 that's or anyway but that's not it's just a thing all right i just had i had a problem with that yeah 359 00:39:08,060 --> 00:39:12,940 i mean you guys threw him off completely how'd they try to kill him yeah i wouldn't like me to know 360 00:39:12,940 --> 00:39:19,420 and so poor john he's sitting over there and they're looking at him looking at me and he's like 361 00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:26,620 right now so right i just established some rapport right and i thought listen i got this 362 00:39:26,620 --> 00:39:33,660 shit this is no fucking problem right and then janice explodes at one of the officers right 363 00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:40,140 so which immediately made my cred go way down except i mean i just right that's 364 00:39:40,140 --> 00:39:45,180 there every one of them every one of these men trying to kill you and then yeah they all looked 365 00:39:45,180 --> 00:39:49,900 of marriageable age in a catholic country they all had wives so i just go 366 00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:59,340 you know and they all go they're nodding that saved the day that's all but in any case uh 367 00:39:59,340 --> 00:40:04,460 this that's not the end of the story the the big part comes at the end but we don't have any more 368 00:40:04,460 --> 00:40:11,660 time do we okay let's finish the story ask you anything so let's wait for finish so they can okay 369 00:40:11,660 --> 00:40:20,380 so now let's finish the story to tell you how we got to where we are right now uh was a direct fork 370 00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:28,460 from that dominican republic i think so now so okay um the next day they say that i get my receipt in 371 00:40:28,460 --> 00:40:35,740 hand signed by the dominican republic colonel right so i'm not worried i'm getting my fucking money 372 00:40:35,740 --> 00:40:44,220 there's no question about that um so we're going without the money to the airport um immigration 373 00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:49,340 immigration at the airport or anyway the head of immigration maybe it's not at the airport 374 00:40:49,340 --> 00:40:55,900 i didn't know and i've got to see outside in any case so that's the first time and by and by the 375 00:40:55,900 --> 00:41:03,340 way i'm now i already have retained lawyer and an official uh is talking to me they have to be there 376 00:41:03,340 --> 00:41:08,940 so my two lawyers are there and me and and the guy doesn't speak english he speaks uh just speaks 377 00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:14,460 spanish at the immigration at the immigration office and he says uh miss mcavie we're sending you back 378 00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:20,220 to america uh we're not filing any charges against you uh or your wife and and your wife can go back 379 00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:29,020 with you and i said well uh international law says that you have two options to send me where i want or 380 00:41:29,740 --> 00:41:36,140 back to the country i came from which is as you see on my paperwork cuba if you want to send me back 381 00:41:36,140 --> 00:41:44,060 there fine knowing they wouldn't um and the guy goes yes but unfortunately you have to why it's muy 382 00:41:44,860 --> 00:41:54,220 muy muy complicado amigo it's very very complicated well i know what the complication was it's america 383 00:41:54,220 --> 00:42:04,060 demanding and how they arranged for the dominican republic to arrest us in before we even got there 384 00:42:04,060 --> 00:42:10,620 how the did they know but they knew but they knew before we got there we were surrounded they were 385 00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:17,420 waiting for us now so so i go okay so and he goes there's no argument i'm sorry sir we're sending you 386 00:42:17,420 --> 00:42:25,420 back so i said uh to my lawyers i want you they spoke very good english uh i want you to file and it was 387 00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:33,740 about two in the afternoon i want you to file with the dominican republic courts um a stay order pending 388 00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:42,620 uh my getting to tell my side in court no by then we'd been in in jail for four days 389 00:42:43,340 --> 00:42:50,700 and we are in the international press everywhere john mcafee and janice mcafee arrested with cash of 390 00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:57,660 weapons in the dominican republic failed to declare to customs why they never once would allow us to 391 00:42:57,660 --> 00:43:02,220 talk to customs they boarded the boat before i could even talk to immigration so in any case 392 00:43:02,220 --> 00:43:08,620 it doesn't matter the law is always on their side however only if the courts don't get involved and 393 00:43:08,620 --> 00:43:16,140 if the courts get involved and they saw the that went down with them boarding our vessel before we even 394 00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:23,820 talked to immigration illegal illegal illegal for uh a dominican republic official to forcibly board 395 00:43:23,820 --> 00:43:30,460 a foreign vessel that has not docked you've got to go through channels for that shit yeah coast guard 396 00:43:30,460 --> 00:43:36,860 you got to go through the coast guard or possibly the navy if you can make it a military matter otherwise 397 00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:42,700 they're the only motherfuckers that are allowed by international law to touch your boat 398 00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:48,140 so are you waiting are you waiting hours with withdrawn weapons right are you waiting to fight 399 00:43:48,140 --> 00:43:52,860 this fight right now this legal fight is there are you oh no there's no legal fight there's no 400 00:43:52,860 --> 00:44:01,340 legal fight how this works no let me explain how this works i mean no i knew that they would not 401 00:44:02,140 --> 00:44:08,700 want me to get my day in court and and so the because that would be the ruination of this whole thing 402 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:16,700 i would they would divulge exactly what corruption was there so in any case so the the laurie said um 403 00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:23,340 when we got outside uh i said it's gonna take two hours she says it's gonna take two hours i said okay 404 00:44:23,340 --> 00:44:30,620 you've got two hours i said but they're they're boarding you on the plane now i said no you have two hours 405 00:44:30,620 --> 00:44:36,140 then i went and told janice i said janice whatever happens in the next few minutes do not panic 406 00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:40,780 he didn't say all that you just said don't worry um don't worry about me i'm doing my thing oh don't 407 00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:45,020 worry about he gave me his glasses and then well you didn't have time to say no i gave him glasses 408 00:44:45,020 --> 00:44:49,740 because i had to fall on the floor in a convulsion so no and so they were happy they had i didn't want 409 00:44:49,740 --> 00:44:54,380 to pass my money again they were they had given him back the money they were counting it again in the 410 00:44:54,380 --> 00:45:00,380 room across from where we were with the immigration and so then i think a few he went sat on and then a 411 00:45:00,380 --> 00:45:05,500 few minutes later he's falling he fell on the floor and having convulsions this time he faked instead of a 412 00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:10,620 heart attack it was a stroke yeah they did a heart attack eight years ago that got me that got me 413 00:45:10,620 --> 00:45:16,860 out of trouble in guatemala faking the heart attack yeah so i'm faking a heart attack twice that's 414 00:45:16,860 --> 00:45:21,900 that thing that works wow so now so i'm in convulsion second time it's not going to work for a heart 415 00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:25,980 attack even you could tell i could tell the way that they were looking at him they were they looked 416 00:45:25,980 --> 00:45:35,500 very skeptical they were like seriously skeptical yes yes and unfortunately immigration had a doctor 417 00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:42,060 on premises yeah they had a doctor who was watching me like a fucking off and so i'm going 418 00:45:42,620 --> 00:45:47,260 okay what do i comes to you and he pretends like he doesn't recognize yeah okay so here's what's going 419 00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:55,580 through my mind uh what do i know about uh symptoms of stroke uh outward symptoms so you know i went 420 00:45:55,580 --> 00:46:02,060 so anyway open my eyes and uh then i pretended not to know anybody of the my staff that was there my 421 00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:09,740 lawyer oh my god he's had a stroke i had just sat with and and i was terrified i was scooting across the 422 00:46:09,740 --> 00:46:18,060 floor backwards no no stay away stay away um and i think that's what you know if the doctor said 423 00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:23,100 you're faking all the women there who are going oh please that was that was especially the one 424 00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:28,940 secretary it's okay no listen he's very he's very good at this he's very very good at this because when 425 00:46:28,940 --> 00:46:33,020 you think about it oh he just fell on the floor and then they thought yeah no he was very convincing 426 00:46:33,020 --> 00:46:39,180 of course it's the acting ability as well this is this didn't make that to work this didn't make 427 00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:44,380 the list of the craziest things you've seen him do yeah right no no this is not the craziest i 428 00:46:44,380 --> 00:46:50,380 fucking promise you oh okay when you're trying to save your life right anything goes yeah okay 429 00:46:50,380 --> 00:46:56,220 yeah this is when you're this is not crazy shit this is necessities because if they let if we had 430 00:46:56,220 --> 00:47:02,220 if we got sent back to america it's the end of me that's a hell of a story man that's the most 431 00:47:02,220 --> 00:47:07,420 amazing shit i've heard in a long time uh yeah so anyway they took us to the hospital yes took me 432 00:47:07,420 --> 00:47:12,380 to the hospital they were about to put janice on an airplane when they called her back which i knew 433 00:47:12,380 --> 00:47:18,220 they would they're not going to send her to america uh john mcafee dies on the way to hospital in 434 00:47:18,220 --> 00:47:24,060 the Dominican Republic under mysterious circumstances while separated from his wife no because i look good 435 00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:31,820 so if i'm going to die they want my wife at least by my side they're having a heart right so no and so he 436 00:47:31,820 --> 00:47:37,340 so when i get to the air the the i mean the hospital um after coming from the airport anyways 437 00:47:37,340 --> 00:47:42,540 he's he's there he's still sort of out of it so i'm playing the part and you know he's still trying 438 00:47:42,540 --> 00:47:48,300 to just stall for time and then finally the lawyers came it took them forever and they finally came 439 00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:52,380 and they've they worked out the paperwork yeah they're a little over two hours i'm in the hospital 440 00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:59,420 now and the lawyers come in smiling at me waving papers right five minutes later keep five minutes 441 00:47:59,420 --> 00:48:04,380 later head of immigration comes to the hospital and says mr mcafee we're sending you to england like 442 00:48:04,380 --> 00:48:12,540 you ask now not only did they send us to england they paid for a ticket they they gave us a military 443 00:48:12,540 --> 00:48:19,580 escort to the airport and had a colonel sit with us until i was safely on the plane and they took us to 444 00:48:19,580 --> 00:48:27,580 the vip lounge where they serve heads of state we were served with with waiters in formal entire 445 00:48:27,580 --> 00:48:34,380 white clubs it was a nice change it was a nice change champagne and and canadies and so then we 446 00:48:34,380 --> 00:48:40,300 landed in london we spent the night there and we are at a hotel which we did pay crypto with yeah 447 00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:48,300 well do you guys mind if we run down some of these questions yes now they have to answer 448 00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:58,460 questions so sorry that it was nice talking to you guys thank you thank you baby no get their 449 00:48:58,460 --> 00:49:04,220 question the answer i thought i thought it's not my fucking fault they started they're the ones 450 00:49:04,220 --> 00:49:12,140 yeah maybe maybe they're the ones who said smoke yeah did you not say smoke yes yeah right are you 451 00:49:12,140 --> 00:49:17,020 hearing this he gets chatterboxy when he smoked all right that's okay all right well you know that's 452 00:49:17,020 --> 00:49:21,660 it's good for an interview we're gonna get no okay because i don't give a shit about anything 453 00:49:21,660 --> 00:49:26,700 other than what's happening here real quick did you go from did you go from england to spain did you 454 00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:32,940 go from england and then to spain next and then wherever you are now no no no no no no we just we 455 00:49:32,940 --> 00:49:38,380 just went to spain to visit friends we just happened to get there we just happened to get there the day 456 00:49:38,380 --> 00:49:45,100 before lockdown and you were you were in england before spain okay so we got to england and then we 457 00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:52,540 went underground we haven't told anybody where we were and if we show pictures of ourselves and 458 00:49:52,540 --> 00:49:59,420 the location it's intentional now let me ask questions babe yes sorry i thought he was asking 459 00:49:59,420 --> 00:50:07,500 questions yeah yeah yeah i want to know where the hell you are but i know that's not we can't get an 460 00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:13,500 exact one i know everybody listen our family doesn't know our family doesn't know our closest friends 461 00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:18,700 nobody knows where janice they are and that's the only way we can stay safe we don't own phones 462 00:50:20,140 --> 00:50:26,140 we'd be found we'd be found in in seconds just just the two of you you and janice or do you have 463 00:50:26,140 --> 00:50:34,700 anyone else still there just janice we escaped from the dominican republic fortunately um with the cash in 464 00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:43,100 my pockets um and hit uh london uh and i knew i couldn't stay there for one because london england 465 00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:50,460 is america's best friend right fortunately we got there after the offices government offices were 466 00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:57,900 closed it was a friday so i knew we were safe for the weekend but we still left early the next morning 467 00:50:57,900 --> 00:51:04,460 to get the fuck out of england okay and after that we have not told anybody where we are now we did 468 00:51:04,460 --> 00:51:10,860 visit germany and uh about two weeks after we visited we published photos and videos as if it 469 00:51:10,860 --> 00:51:19,740 was happening live and we do have friends in spain uh but we did not announce we were in spain until 470 00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:27,180 after we left spain okay can we uh can we go through we so i don't know how you don't you don't know much 471 00:51:27,180 --> 00:51:31,580 about our show but our show is like a lifestyle show and a politics show so and we're we're we're out 472 00:51:31,580 --> 00:51:35,660 there dudes that's why we're very glad you smoked dope with us and can't beat that shit so if we 473 00:51:35,660 --> 00:51:40,780 can uh can we run down some questions about your presidential run and then get into some lifestyle 474 00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:47,420 stuff go for it pat ask a question okay well uh first of all we're running libertarian 2020. 475 00:51:48,220 --> 00:51:53,660 crazy all right what's your platform what do you want to do why are you for the libertarian ticket 476 00:51:54,940 --> 00:51:59,900 this is my second pass at the libertarian i ran in 2016 came in third for the mama nation 477 00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:06,220 that's my first time in politics um i don't want to be president i don't think it matters who the 478 00:52:06,220 --> 00:52:14,460 president is i have no platform uh because i have no desire to be president and what i want to know is 479 00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:23,740 why do we actually elect uh people who spend a hundred million dollars to take a job paying a few 480 00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:28,460 hundred thousand a year now my granddaddy said if things don't add up they don't add up 481 00:52:28,460 --> 00:52:36,860 uh it's weak our country started with people like george washington who did not want to be president 482 00:52:37,660 --> 00:52:44,700 i mean he flat out said listen i was general the continental army no man has sacrificed more 483 00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:54,060 for this country leave me be and let me fish on the potomac river i understand fishing on the potomac back 484 00:52:54,060 --> 00:53:01,260 then was outrageously good um no no they drug him kicking and screaming because in all sincerity 485 00:53:01,260 --> 00:53:08,220 of people who else was there i mean you know benjamin franklin um well he did chase skirts and drink 486 00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:14,220 wine he was brilliant i'm sorry washington was the clear alpha at the time yeah no who else and thomas 487 00:53:14,220 --> 00:53:20,620 jefferson couldn't find his fucking glasses i mean seriously john hancock well john hancock had one 488 00:53:20,620 --> 00:53:28,460 talent that is a fantastic signature wow yeah i love george was really all there was 489 00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:36,220 they sh they shamed him into taking it that's what we need to do now people we need to shame people into 490 00:53:36,220 --> 00:53:44,700 taking the job rather than vote for people who want who would want the job so who would you shame who 491 00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:51,020 would you shame into into being president besides yourself besides yourself first of all we have to 492 00:53:51,020 --> 00:53:58,140 change the system because it really doesn't matter now um our system is so broken by the negligence of 493 00:53:58,140 --> 00:54:07,020 the american voters um that um it doesn't matter it's like a car with a broken steering wheel it doesn't matter 494 00:54:07,020 --> 00:54:14,380 who's who's driving that car john that's it's going where it's going i'm sorry i said it's a tricky 495 00:54:14,380 --> 00:54:19,820 slope because i know when i'm like doing a job that i really don't want to do or i was shamed into doing 496 00:54:19,820 --> 00:54:26,860 i don't really do it that well um most of the time but what about yeah well i promise you if you pay 497 00:54:26,860 --> 00:54:41,020 10 times more for a job than what it will pay i promise you you will do the damn sight worse than 498 00:54:41,020 --> 00:54:46,140 the job you'll do well you said you said you said no platform but i'm going to call a bull show not 499 00:54:46,140 --> 00:54:51,820 because you definitely would run on the platform with no taxes correct yeah but i mean 500 00:54:51,820 --> 00:54:59,260 the right mind would not have a platform please let's not do unconstitutional things anymore 501 00:54:59,260 --> 00:55:06,620 but and the constitution clearly forbids income taxes good god almighty and yet we pay them but what 502 00:55:06,620 --> 00:55:10,860 about this what about this should the president if they're going to be shamed into doing a job they 503 00:55:10,860 --> 00:55:18,540 don't want to do should they be provided with unlimited women absolutely of course why else do the job i 504 00:55:18,540 --> 00:55:23,580 mean really if you put me in a position now where i didn't want to do the job i'd either shoot myself 505 00:55:23,580 --> 00:55:30,460 listen i've only got a few years left in the twilight of my life i am spending it in misery unless yeah 506 00:55:30,460 --> 00:55:39,580 i get enough women possibly or men if you happen to be a woman or gay um or sheep i guess well yeah 507 00:55:41,340 --> 00:55:47,580 let's talk about that what about whales or dolphins what was i just successfully mount everybody tells me 508 00:55:47,580 --> 00:55:53,660 that's not consensual with whales or i don't know about dolphins if you can get this in a whale it's 509 00:55:53,660 --> 00:56:01,820 fucking consensual john if if you're able to let me let me ask a single question because somebody said 510 00:56:01,820 --> 00:56:09,500 dolphins i'm gonna let you in on a secret that's very few because it's very few thought about it 511 00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:20,380 that male dolphins will actually fuck females oh yeah you do not think so google it people 512 00:56:21,260 --> 00:56:22,860 it's a very common thing 513 00:56:25,420 --> 00:56:32,460 would you let your lady in a pen with dolphins under if that's the case if she wants me listen i don't let 514 00:56:32,460 --> 00:56:44,220 my let my lady was that the question yeah hey janice do i let do i let you do would you please come here 515 00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:51,100 do you let me do anything uh-oh and pat's the me too guy too she's not talking about letting women do 516 00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:56,940 what do you let your wife don't go let are you fucking insane do i do what the fuck i want yeah 517 00:56:58,220 --> 00:57:05,980 she does what the fuck she wants to do okay if i were to say don't do this i'd better be 518 00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:15,820 30 feet away and money john okay okay instead let's move on from dolphins and whales we we 519 00:57:15,820 --> 00:57:22,540 we heard some stuff about a hammock in a hole uh belizean ladies uh it has to do with them 520 00:57:22,540 --> 00:57:30,140 shitting you catching them now uh is there truth to this is this your thing you're you're asking to 521 00:57:30,140 --> 00:57:37,260 dig into my sexual life yeah we're like further than which i have revealed or unwilling to in polite 522 00:57:37,260 --> 00:57:43,260 company i don't even fucking know you dude you've never shaken hands okay we've never dropped acid 523 00:57:43,260 --> 00:57:48,940 together so to ask me that question is the height of offense do you understand oh i no offense 524 00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:54,540 have you ever fucked a rabbit in the ass tell me i haven't but i might but i would drop acid but 525 00:57:54,540 --> 00:57:58,780 how can i believe you well i thought i believe you there are allegations i don't believe i mean 526 00:58:01,180 --> 00:58:08,700 no disrespect i understand don't ask me any any personal questions like what my wife and i do 527 00:58:08,700 --> 00:58:14,940 i have a second i have a question that's just fucking rude what that's just fucking rude yeah i 528 00:58:14,940 --> 00:58:19,900 agree it's fucking rude that's rude i mean i don't like that question oh yeah i'm taking off a point 529 00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:25,820 all right i have a question i have a question i have a question i have a question pat what is the best drug 530 00:58:25,820 --> 00:58:35,500 to do in the world for what for contemplation introspection for uh for keeping up for days in 531 00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:42,860 order to do your your exam like if you if you had like um one week left on earth and you could do one 532 00:58:42,860 --> 00:58:50,060 drug for a week what what drug would you prefer oh shit mdpv but only if i had about 30 women what is 533 00:58:50,060 --> 00:58:58,300 that what is that i don't even we've never even heard of that john explain what methylene dioxypyrovelerone 534 00:58:58,940 --> 00:59:06,140 well you don't kids see you're stuck in all of this strange organic chemistry sort of thing um 535 00:59:07,020 --> 00:59:14,300 uh kinds of drugs like peyote and mescaline and magic mushrooms of course and ayahuasca and 536 00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:20,460 on and on all of which i have taken more of than you could possibly carry and yet you know nothing 537 00:59:20,460 --> 00:59:29,900 about real drugs like no no to see no clue educate us look it up i'm gonna let you okay all right let 538 00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:39,420 me tell you what it is certainly the most powerful drug ever conceived it's of the cathinine class 539 00:59:40,140 --> 00:59:46,300 oh sorry it's of the cathinine family and there are hundreds of cathinines out there 540 00:59:47,020 --> 00:59:53,740 some of the ones that are safe for people who have tried cathinines are alpha pvp 541 00:59:59,180 --> 01:00:09,020 abdb alpha bdb alpha php there you go alpha php good safe drive even if you've never taken 542 01:00:09,020 --> 01:00:16,300 a real drug before it's all you've done is methamphetamine cocaine and heroin and that 543 01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:22,860 shit uh which are nothing compared so are these are these are all lab created you're talking about 544 01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:32,060 right yes of course yeah absolutely by china for fuck's sake um and um no you need you need to keep up 545 01:00:32,060 --> 01:00:40,060 with drugs speaking but no i mean if you if you take if you take mdpc there's a problem let me tell you 546 01:00:40,060 --> 01:00:52,300 no um it has a massive risk factor you remember about six seven years ago uh in miami where a man ate the 547 01:00:52,300 --> 01:01:00,620 face of a total stranger yes oh yeah the bath salts right he was on methylene dioxide and that's the 548 01:01:00,620 --> 01:01:08,140 one you want for for the last week yes yes let me explain this let me explain this now mdpv 549 01:01:08,140 --> 01:01:19,820 is the most dose dependent drug ever created i would imagine weigh yourself down to the to the 550 01:01:19,820 --> 01:01:27,020 to the half an ounce almost and work this work this formula which averages out to about uh 551 01:01:27,020 --> 01:01:34,860 uh one milligram per 552 01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:42,620 one milligram for for 25 pounds okay um and let's just say your dosage is then five milligrams 553 01:01:43,260 --> 01:01:51,500 you're 125 pounds actually no that's way too much let's make it 175 pounds five milligrams in any 554 01:01:51,500 --> 01:02:01,180 case i don't have i don't i don't have the formula in front in any case so now if you take uh uh um 555 01:02:01,180 --> 01:02:07,260 exactly exactly five milligrams you're gonna have 556 01:02:09,980 --> 01:02:21,180 an experience that you have never dreamed what's it like what's it like if you take 4.5 milligrams you'll 557 01:02:21,180 --> 01:02:30,780 feel nothing if you take 5.5 milligrams you will eat somebody's face off you understand the danger of 558 01:02:30,780 --> 01:02:38,780 this that's how dangerous it is so you better have um ten thousand dollars of scale 559 01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:45,180 scaling so that you can because you can't do this shit by having oh yeah just cut it in half 560 01:02:45,180 --> 01:02:51,340 you're gonna have to have mbtv you don't feel nothing uh or you're going to eat your own foot 561 01:02:53,340 --> 01:03:00,780 okay so hey john yes uh so we would be you know remiss to not we've obviously seen the documentary that 562 01:03:00,780 --> 01:03:04,620 was put out that kind of is getting some you know you some more attention whether it's negative 563 01:03:04,620 --> 01:03:10,620 you know most negative attention mainly um and we'd be remiss to not ask you about it but we i saw that you were 564 01:03:10,620 --> 01:03:18,380 um ordered to pay um 25 million dollars um recently for the death of the you know gregory fall that's 565 01:03:18,380 --> 01:03:23,580 that was a civil that was a civil court okay i just want to know if you've never even been i've never 566 01:03:23,580 --> 01:03:30,140 even been i've never even been uh a suspect uh or never charged by any authority ever so why'd they 567 01:03:30,700 --> 01:03:37,820 why they order you to pay 25 million dollars do you know nothing about civil law well not not as much as 568 01:03:37,820 --> 01:03:41,420 as i think i guess i think i do i'm just wondering if you can explain it maybe you can explain what 569 01:03:41,420 --> 01:03:46,460 what happened in that in that number one i never responded i've been sued over 200 times and this 570 01:03:46,460 --> 01:03:57,900 on my first my first wrongful death suit came because my nephew who was a pilot i'm also a pilot was flying 571 01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:06,620 in rodeo new mexico one of my airplanes with a passenger the airplane crashed and killed him and the 572 01:04:06,620 --> 01:04:13,340 passenger passenger's family sued me for 100 million dollars from wrongful death that's the same sort 573 01:04:13,340 --> 01:04:21,900 of suit right paid for i'm not even going to answer shit like that okay no not from you i mean i don't 574 01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:29,180 i'm not even going to answer yeah did george did george if i don't answer it defaults and if it defaults 575 01:04:29,180 --> 01:04:34,780 then they give them the money okay i'm not spending millions of dollars to fight nonsense 576 01:04:34,780 --> 01:04:41,420 it's nonsense oh so you avoid you'd avoid court over uh engaging in it just to save the money and then 577 01:04:41,420 --> 01:04:49,020 pay the fee at the end i'm not playing in a game uh which is weighted in the favor of lawyers 578 01:04:49,020 --> 01:04:54,220 25 million dollars if i were a lawyer i might have to play that game yeah but it might have been 579 01:04:54,220 --> 01:04:59,500 worth it to get a lawyer i just i don't play it i don't answer the suits i get the suits i throw them 580 01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:05,180 away and go on with my life okay do you think george fall uh killed your dogs though do you think 581 01:05:05,180 --> 01:05:10,140 he poisoned the dog of course not he had a fucking dog no dog owner kills dogs i know this for a fact 582 01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:18,380 okay okay but yeah well i mean belize somebody somebody in that thing called you uh the donald 583 01:05:18,380 --> 01:05:23,660 the belize donald trump you you give any merit to that comparison at all and do you think that 584 01:05:23,660 --> 01:05:29,180 that means i don't know what it means either but i mean i can't i'm gonna give queens to something 585 01:05:29,180 --> 01:05:34,860 i do not understand i think they were they were referring in the documentary that the the the 586 01:05:34,860 --> 01:05:39,420 donald trump likes the ladies and has a lot of money and that was that's kind of what they 587 01:05:39,420 --> 01:05:43,900 say right so i would say like i was thinking if you could use that in your 2020 campaign in any way 588 01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:50,140 i don't know i don't know i mean let me tell you something i lived with seven women simultaneously 589 01:05:50,140 --> 01:05:57,100 while i was in police there's been no more horrific time in my life um you know they start cycling 590 01:05:57,100 --> 01:06:08,140 together oh jesus god it's seven women against you oh i gotta go jan said you gotta go i've got another 591 01:06:08,140 --> 01:06:14,460 another one my apologies guys that's it this one's huge this one's huge all the kids are on a on an 592 01:06:14,460 --> 01:06:18,700 app called tick tock which is a chinese developed app is it dangerous for us to be on chinese 593 01:06:18,700 --> 01:06:24,380 developed apps like tick tock from a security perspective you have no security and you have 594 01:06:24,380 --> 01:06:30,460 no privacy this is the facts i mean if you understand that do you give a shit probably not 595 01:06:30,460 --> 01:06:38,460 not is what i'm hearing okay thank you oh yeah