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from corolla one studios in glendale california this is the adam corolla show adam's guest today

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john mcafee with gina grad on news and bald brian on sound effects and now the counter

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to the counter culture that has now become the culture adam corolla yeah get it on

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got to get it on no choice but again on mandate get it on thanks for tuning in and thanks for

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sharing we love that about you right gina grad that's right handball brian window of negligence

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i uh we're gonna talk to uh peter freeman in a second because uh you may not know who that is

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he's a founder of road microphones and i woke up this morning and i got an email from uh

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from mike august that explained that kurt cobain's guitar from his unplugged session from mtv that

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you guys all remember that iconic guitar he was playing upside down like like like jimmy hendrix

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used to do uh just sold for six million dollars at an auction and uh and the sweater he was wearing

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during that went for 334 so um and i always kind of periodically talk about this celebrity

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memorabilia how you know when jimmy hendrix died his guitars weren't worth anything and now now they are

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but one a guitar just sold for six million so i came in and i said hey max back here's something we can

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talk about and uh he and dawson ran down the guy who bought it and uh he's going to be phoning in in a

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couple of minutes so we'll we'll talk to him about that um and for for those of of you who go six

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million dollars for an acoustic guitar you're nuts it's the same people that said that people that bought

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a uh ferrari uh let's see trying to think about now that's lamborghini but uh thanks damn it

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gina's gonna ask me a car question later so and she set it up she set the table perfectly look

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a ferrari gto somebody paid 27 million dollars for you know 12 years ago and someone said that's

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insane except for that car 60 million dollars now so is it insane and uh the sweater chris looked up

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the cardigan that kirk cobain was wearing that thing went for i don't know buck 50 or buck 60

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two years earlier than doubled its price in after four years in four years it more than doubled i

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don't know who are what what else can we say that about so somebody bought that thing for i was it a

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buck 60 something like that buck 55 or whatever it was sat on it for four years sold it for for 340

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and the sweater sold in october just to be clear didn't it wasn't over the wasn't in the same wasn't

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in the same auction yeah the thinking was the thinking with the jimmy hendrix stuff like well he's dead

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he's not gonna be able to play it anymore what does it matter now like what was the thinking that

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this wouldn't be memorabilia worth keeping i don't think memorabilia was memorabilia in 1967 or 9 or

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whenever he died you know what i mean but what about but generations before that there were still

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musicians there were still artists there was still their stuff it i there's a couple of things i think

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it was considered uncouth to take dead people's junk and like auction it off because this person

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who's dead played it whatever it was a little it was uncouth as i learned from walking through the

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winchester mystery mansion uh years ago and none of the furniture was in there was all taken to san

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francisco and auctioned off and i said well may i bet you fetched a premium saying it was from the

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winchester mystery mansion and they said no that would have that's considered uncouth they wouldn't

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have even said it back then so yes we used to have a society that had sort of social rules you know the

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way you dress on an airplane how you talk to other customers in a walmart and things things like that

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we still follow some sort of social rules but uh and also it just we're too young a nation there wasn't

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i guess enough celebrities i don't know how it worked but none of this stuff was worth anything

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and and now it is and uh i was also thinking back about uh i was looking at it and it's like oh the

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special came out in november of uh 93 i remember it's that iconic unplugged they unplugged special

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and then uh cobain died about five months later you know killed himself about five months later and i

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always look back at that little window in time which was just a few months for me uh i was up against

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turning 30 in may of uh 94 uh my my dreams my career all the things i sort of my time my timeline was up i

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gave myself until i was 30 to try to do something in the industry again not not be a celebrity per se

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just do something in the industry be a writer or or director or something and all a foothold yeah and

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i i'd gotten to the end of my my cutoff date which was turning 30 i was weeks and months away from from

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just being 30 and i was ready to pack it in and sort of go back and get my contractor's license and you

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know get a bigger pickup truck kind of thing and so i remember and of course nirvana was at the height

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of their powers back then and then in probably march or april of 94 cobain kills himself and the reason

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it's it's etched into my brain is nobody played more nirvana songs than k-rock so when i got to k-rock

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maybe a week after or maybe the same week or whenever because i was just starting to train

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jimmy for the bleed and recita with my birthday being at the end of may i i just got in into k-rock

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before the end of may cobain had literally just killed himself and that's all everyone was talking

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about at k-rock you know that the phones would constantly ring and and it was all kirk cobain

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killed himself 24 7 and it was also weird because i was trying to call in to get someone on the phone

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when they would say you know hey we have boxing we need trainers we need equipment we need a venue

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give us a call on the morning show but it was all kirk cobain killed himself talk that as i recall so

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so as i was sitting back you know 25 26 years on looking at his guitar selling for six million bucks

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and all that has happened in that 26 years and how that marked the very end obviously the end of his career

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was right the exact beginning of of my career so everything is uh it's pretty pretty poetic when you look at it

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both left-handed maybe the spirit uh traveled to you oh my god time to pick up a thing about that

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that's it that's right i know it's so funny i was just talking to someone about this when um

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we're doing a lot of like you know you couldn't know my experience or you couldn't you know you

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couldn't know my experience as a black person or you couldn't know my experience as a as a gay person

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or as a woman and then there's also that we're somehow unified because of the color of our skin

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or sexual proclivities i reject it all the time i think it's dangerous and i hate that kind of talk

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but i oh i was just saying to someone i like once in a while i'll be signing an autograph and people

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go hey you're left-handed i'm left-handed too and i was going yeah yeah that's not doesn't mean

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anything please have you noticed i've never brought it up in five and a half years thank you

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thanks for coming thanks for coming to book signing yeah if you but if you told me your favorite

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comedian if you said i really love mitch hedberg and i went i really love mitch hedberg then we'd

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have a conversation because that's not about an arbitrary left-handed or even the color your skin

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or gay or straight that's something brown eyes i got brown eyes right that's something you chose

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and i chose that as well and now we can discuss or vintage datsuns if in a pinch all right so uh

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yeah the way the l the lgbtq uh community should use that quote because you said it doesn't matter

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if you're gay that's it's not something you chose it's not something you chose right um so uh yeah he

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when did cobain i'm trying to figure this one out i've always i'm always trying to figure this one out

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max betta the bleed and recita was what date and when did kurt cobain die he died in april april

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9th it always sticks out in my mind for bleed and recita or his dad no no for cobain i i don't have

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bleed and recita it's in my mind it's it's it's a little bit of cultural touchstone he was he was fit

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he was april 5th 94 well i don't know if your brain works even and odd but my brain works even and

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odd i'll i'll i'll say i knew was it the eighth and someone will go no the sixth yeah it's even

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an odd and also single digit double digit i knew it wasn't double digit it was like it's the ninth

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to the seventh or something the um we can uh yes contrast your that's like a moment in your life

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that you remember because of where you were and blah blah i remember waking up the morning that he

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died i think it was a weekend a friday or saturday because i remember not having school or something

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and um that they discovered the body and it was all over mtv news and that was like you know

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banner you know wall to wall kurt cobain and i remember thinking like oh man that sucks because

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i had no connection in nirvana i was the nerd in 1994 i was six 16 15 16 years old i hadn't turned 16 yet

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i was only listening to the beatles i say all the time i'm a huge beatles fan i was only listening to

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the and maybe a little bit like guns and roses but like it was all beatles all the time so nirvana who

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ironically was super influenced by the beatles when the guy died i was like oh yeah well i should

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get into their music couldn't escape nirvana out here with k-rock on all the time so i was and and

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watched well i ended up you know i ended up on mtv probably two and a half years later

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actually that's right wasn't wasn't much after he killed himself that i was all over mtv

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uh all right so uh we're good uh peter freeman to uh call in oh sorry freedman to uh call in

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and uh i guess road is doing okay if he's got six million laying around we bought about a million

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of the microphones while we're at it might as well give him a shout out we use road microphones here

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on the carolla show yeah i like that and i also like it when guys don't go anonymous i like it when

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people buy a baseball or a car or a guitar and they go yeah i bought it because i think a lot of people

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feel like uh i don't know they could get robbed or or worse hit up for a loan by a relative which

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definitely definitely something something scary we have to deal with you ever consider collecting

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anything besides cars i mean you're a sports fan you like certain music yeah besides racing

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relating things you know um they've always there's always been this kind of adage when it comes to

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car collectors where you go what car should i get and then the the adage is basically what car do you

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like because you'll you'll always ultimately don't try to figure out what's going to gain the most in

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value figure out what you like what you do you'll probably land on your feet if you do that or at least

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you'll be able to enjoy it you know for instance there could be you know dorothy's ruby red slippers

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or you know a gown from uh breakfast at tiffany's or something like that but i wouldn't enjoy it and i

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don't want to research it and i don't really know you know i don't know what it is i like i like watches

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but i don't know anything about watches and i like guns but i don't know anything about guns i like the

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mechanics of watches and guns someone should combine a gun and a watch you'd be like hey what

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time is it no um but what's that yeah boba fett yeah yeah oh see he gets lost on him i get lost

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so um no but i do i do have some newman fire suits and helmets and tom cruise stuff and and walter

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payton you know i have walter payton fire i have his fire suit not a not a football or jersey

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the bleeden recita was april 22nd and so kirk cobain was the fifth you say right yeah right okay right

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and the bleeden recita yeah so i would have been so i had about three weeks to train jimmy and or so

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and two or three weeks as i as i recall so he would have killed himself right as i was right as i was

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trying to make it in to the uh to the station crazy anyway time goddamn flies all right or uh i'll do

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method man and then we'll uh get peter on the on the phone yeah i heard us talking about uh these guys

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and previous weeks on this show they got a fresh approach to groom and staying clean fresh should

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be fuss free let's talk about deodorant i actually just hit it uh today before i came in people think

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uh i have weak hygiene i do not i always use the uh deodorant uh you owe it to your co-workers

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sea surf and uh the cedar cypress the cedar cypress that's the deodorant i use yeah it smells so good i

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look forward to taking showers now if i could use that body wash the uh sea surf is the is the body

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wash the cypress is what i think uh i use in the deodorant department anyway it's fresh cut cedar

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hints of cypress the stuff looks good it works better and just just check it out but believe me you will

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that's m-e-t-h-o-d-m-e-n.com all right let's see you're looking for a real quick you're looking for

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a watch that works as a gun james bond had several watches uh one containing uh explosives and detonators

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and one that shot at like a garrett like a like you know like a i don't know a lasso basically um i'm

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not sure if he had one actually fired like bullets but uh he had many watches that did many things

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bombs i as a kid the watch the james the james bond gadget department when they went down and

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talked to q i guess and went into the basement where they were testing all the ejector seats and flame

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proof capes and everything that it was it just showed what a horrible childhood i had because

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that was the most exciting thing ever just sort of dumb cardboard junk in this you know they'd be

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testing the stuff in the background while they were walking through to get to his flash paper

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his db5 yeah oh chris uh in golden eye he had a gun that shot a laser you can find that oh wait a gun

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or watch it shot a watch sorry watch that shot a laser there was also a watch that he used uh it was

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sean connery and um never say never again he used a laser from his watch to break out of that prison

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cell oh and there was also the laser that was going right at his nutsack that's right famously

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there back then as well all right uh so let's see should be calling in any second peter should i uh

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move on to another subject or you want to try to get on you want to try to get on yeah we're trying

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to get a hold of him yeah go ahead move on uh gina grad yeah you want a new car i need a new car

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so my lease is almost up i have no idea where the time went uh you know i love my good my good

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vibes my puppy kissing booth my subaru um but i've i don't know what to do so i i guess the options

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are lease buy a used car or buy a new car for some reason i have zero desire to buy a new car

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i'm loving getting like something new every couple of years and i know that's an expense that you never

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get rid of but what do i do i i know i'm well into adulthood and i have no clue i looked at a

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site that said best leases of 2020 i don't know what to do i jump in my car yeah i've never bought

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a used car before uh there's so many good cars that are two or three years old that are still

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under warranty and people don't really get it like transmissions are sealed now with synthetic

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transmission fluid and they never have to change them and they're so there's so so there's so much

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better in the maintenance department that you can so what you can do like my whole thing is like look

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do you want to drive a brand new honda or do you want to drive a two-year-old audi and by the way

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everything works everything's good but my take is why not drive that two-year-old audi which is still

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under warranty and why not drive a 53 000 you know if if you say all right i have i have 30 000 to

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spend on a car my thing is is buy a car that's two or three years old that was 53 000 see we can get

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it for 30 versus just pay full freight for a new car but everything is everything is good everything

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is safe everything works everything looks pretty sharp and there is no there's no wrong you do have

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to kind of figure out uh electrical or electric car versus uh internal combustion and as i was saying

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with my kids just turning 14 two years from now their their first car is going to be electric and i and i

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and that's all they're ever going to know i mean i don't think they're ever going back you know we're

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always kind of trying to do this thing where it's like we're going to regulate or mandate or whatever

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but but as far as consumers go trying to sell someone electric car six eight years ago was tough

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i mean i i i had like a nissan leaf or something i brought over here i plugged it in i was two three

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hours i was here then gained two three miles on a on a plugin it's just like the technology wasn't

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there two years from now there'll be no reason not to not to drive an electric car so well yeah

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this is this is well that's really good to know but stupid question because i i own a car as well

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i own a mazda um that uh i i gave to a family member who can no longer use it can you just go

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into any dealership even if it's not a mazda and trade a car in yes i had no idea i was like well

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that means i have to get a mazda and my fiance's like no you can trade a car in anywhere i didn't

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know that you can trade in anywhere i mean if they do use cars and look not everyone is interested but

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i've always been interested you just reminded me in this sign that you'd see from the freeway with

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the used car lot which is they'd go we pay the most for your used car and then right under it they'd say

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rock bottom prices on used cars and i'm like one or the other it's got to be one or the other you

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can't simultaneously pay me the most and and so the problem with the the trade-in is i don't know what

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the vig is no but the vig is like i'll put it to you this way if you could get ten thousand dollars

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trade-in for your mazda you could probably sell it on bring a trailer or ebay for 13.5 there's really

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there's a there's a vig there it's not it's never worth what you could get but a lot of people want

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to drive in drop it off and drive drive away in the new and so that that kind of vig that you're paying

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is that convenience thing like do you want to yeah i guess in a way it's kind of like the price of gas

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in the rental car like do you want to if you're going to just drive it back and drop it off that's

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fine but it's four bucks a gallon right but it's better than stopping at the shittiest i think

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there's some sort of deal that they put the scariest gas stations closest to the airport so you go fuck

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it man look at that dude i don't trust that guy just keep driving i'll pay the because i've been

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i've been to every scary gas station by the airport because mike august doesn't want to pay the

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extra 22 cents a gallon all right yes i'll give you one quick piece of breaking news that just came

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across my news alerts it says eclectic director joel schumacher whose career range from batman to

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saint elmo's fire dies at age 80 wow did not did not know you know it's weird you know it's a bad time

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with the pandemic and me too and all the shit that's going on where when i hear about a person

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dying now i'm like lateral move i mean at least you didn't get me too'd like i i mean like i i when

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i hear you hear you hear the celebrity name and you go oh my god this guy's getting me too'd or there's

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some footage of him in blackface from uh 1971 and it's like oh he died oh good for him bullet dodged

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good for him he's the lucky one the lucky ones died first i do i i i think about you know i was just

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thinking about my my friend uh jeff katz who i told you passed earlier in the year and it's like hey he

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missed this whole thing he missed the riding and he missed the me getting me too'd and black lives

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matter he missed the taking to the streets and the cops and the all the chaos the covet 19 like he

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just missed that i look let's let's be honest there's probably you know there are better times

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to be alive and people do this all time like who would want to live how would you have want to live

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you know when uh you stepped on a rusty piece of bronze got tetanus and now died you know on your 22nd

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birthday like no one would want to live we live in a time you know so it's kind of like we can all

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agree they're good times to be alive and it's like you're talking about lgbt like there was a time where

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hey if you were uh gay you were put to death or or whatever it's a good good time for that but

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to be fair they're probably good times to die too i should write a children's book uh but i mean

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hey if if you punched out in uh you know january february uh of this year you look i'm not saying

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that there's a good time but you picked it you know picked a pretty good time to punch out

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you missed a lot i haven't seen every joel schumacher movie i'm i'm it's a blind spot for me but the

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ones i've seen uh fun booth fantastic movie streaming on hulu yeah and uh uh what's the one

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falling down with michael douglas really good streaming on often referenced hulu and voodoo

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for those we have no word from uh peter no i know he's traveling from la to san francisco right now so

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i don't know if there's something going on with that oh okay all right we're just waiting let me um

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you know be a you know be a nice move like you know when they you know when somebody like

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buys the baseball that mark mcguire hits and then shreds it or something like that because he's a

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cubs fan or you know that move that blows up the ball yeah yeah he should take that six million dollar

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guitar and go full el kabong uh also uh john belushi in the stairwell of uh animal house just go full

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honky-tonk man yeah just full honky-tonk man el kabong who was a a character that probably i i there's

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a lot of cultural appropriation going on with el kabong but uh in in the cartoons i used to watch when

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as a kid a quick draw mcgraw i think became had like an alter ego or something named like el kabong

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and he'd hit everyone over the head with a with a guitar or the honky-tonk man yeah yeah that'd be a

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power move well let's pitch that to uh peter when he's uh when we get him on the phone his team said

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uh he'll call in in a second all right let me uh hit uh brandon 37 tucson arizona what's going on

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hey adam gina bald how are you guys good what's going on great pleasure to talk to you guys adam i've

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read and listened to just about everything so i really appreciate everything over the years

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well thanks have you got uh i'm your emotional support animal yet yeah i already listened to

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the audio book i love the side commentary oh our commentary commentary dawson chiming in all of it

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yeah it's great yeah it's fun dawson was on the mic as well which made it fun because i was just

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talking to him through the window so uh yeah guys go get that and get the book i know amazon is sold

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out but they won't take you can still go buy the book and they won't cash your check until it comes

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back in which should be any day now and give it a review because i read them thank you um infinite

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uh audio books as well so says max patter i go ahead uh brandon all right so i was actually whenever the

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tweet to call in came across i was sitting here jotting down some notes for a team meeting that i

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have tonight i have eight young-ish employees on their young in their 20s and uh arizona just went

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to the full mask thing like california has been and so we have a team meeting tonight it'll be brought

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up and addressed everything is full mask now and it's kind of been like you've said before catch

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catch can all along with all of it as well as with my employees and i don't know where they get

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their information or how they you know how they decide when to wear the mask or when not doing all

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this stuff but i always think of you talking about being calibrated now again these employees are all

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20 something years old and probably don't have a whole lot of life experience to be calibrated

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so how do you you know and again just tonight i'm just bringing up the mask thing but as an aside i

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would like to you know give them a little something like from the ace man here's here's here's how he

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would recommend to get calibrated so you know whether or not to actually be scared or worried

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or wear the mask or whatever it is well i would pitch it i was just talking to dr drew about how

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unaffected it is is it ineffective ineffective ineffective how ineffective it is to just sort of

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push your ideas right at people they just fight it you know but the way to do it just sorry real

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quickly i spent 15 years in construction like you did where you were spoken to and no in certain

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terms yeah so this new this new venture now where i have these young kids under me has been a challenge

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to communicate to them in a way you know all right so here's the thing here's what i would here's the

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way i would push it out there which is people look at you know better safe than sorry and that's that's

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the adage and people look at it as you know 100 safety is good if the shit goes down but they don't

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look at the downside of living your life that way in in totality it's funny i just i was telling you i

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had my i had a had a heart to heart with my dad i told you the other day and one of the things we

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discussed was my cousin vince who was uh a friend a very close my dad's closest friend from the old

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neighborhood in um the south side of philadelphia was uh vince bruno and vince was a gregarious kind

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of out he wasn't he was an outgoing guy and he said you know when i would walk to school i would

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literally hide behind cars as i sort of scurried to school because there were gangs and there were

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tough neighborhoods and they would get beat up and so on and so forth and and vince just walked he just

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walked straight up and down and and and then later on uh vince would he got to know his grandkids by

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like taking his grandkids to europe you know and they they'd hike all over the place and they'd see

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everything and so here was my dad at the end he's telling me this because he's at the end of

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his life you know and he's starting to be more vulnerable and and kind of open up and he's saying

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i envied vince because vince wasn't scared i was scared all the time i didn't want to do i was oh my dad

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led a life of fear and now he's reflecting on his life and there's not that much to reflect on because of

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the fear he was driven by fear and his best friend who grew up in the same neighborhood didn't live his

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life based on fear and would just go out he wasn't a daredevil he just he would just go out and do

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things and and and the fear so if you think about anyone historically or vince bruno you know names you

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you know names you don't know there's no example of a fear-based life that you look up to there just

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there just isn't so how about the very real fear of living a fear-based life what about all the

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consequences that go along with that i mean there's bumps and bruises that go along with a life if you

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want to go out in the desert and ride 250 honda motorcycles and you can fall off one or you want

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to ride a horse and jump over a fence i mean there's always or you do a lot of traveling and

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you know a lot of puddle jumpers or you know sea planes or whatever i mean there's there's a danger

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that is that is inherent in that life but when they both got to the end of their life meaning my dad and

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vince vince was able to reflect on all these experiences and my dad is sitting there telling me

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that he wished he wasn't fear-based he wished he would have done those things he wished he would

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have had those experiences so you know this notion of um all upside to safety and no downside oh there's

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a big downside there's a colossal downside there's a downside that nobody you know everyone talks about

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fear like in the moment you know like do you want to get in that race car do you want to jump on that

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horse you want to jump in that plane and go here and it's like there's a financial fear there's kind

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of a spiritual fear there's a danger you know your your own safety fear yeah all those in the moment

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you can say in the moment no i don't want to get on that motorcycle or no i'm not going to climb on top

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of that camel and gallop through the desert no i'm not going to get in that race car that's all good

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in the moment stand back like a mosaic you don't see it when you're up against it you're up against

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the little tiles of the mosaic and you go no i'm not going to do that i'm not going to venture i'm not

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going to buy a kurt cobain's guitar for six million dollars i'm not going to race paul newman's old race

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car that's fine when you're staring at the tile step back see the picture that's your life

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and you see a coward you see a mosaic of a coward that you can't see when your face is up against it

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my dad is now 90 and he stepped back into the museum of his life and he's seeing a very clear

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picture of a coward and he couldn't see it when he was up against it you can't see it you just see the

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different color tiles and you go no it doesn't sound safe i'm not going to do it well eventually

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a life of playing it safe gets you into what it's it's it's it's a mosaic of a coward and it's not

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a life well lived yes most people never see it you know they never see the mosaic and if they do

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they're like your dad is 90 years old and what are you going to do right right there's nothing to do

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there's nothing to do now at this point the ship has sailed right and and that's what he was relating

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to me sounds like a johnny cash song mosaic of a coward yeah no it's a metaphor which is of course

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when you're up close it's real easy to make all those super safe decisions like i'm not doing this

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or i'm gonna protect that okay but keep doing that throughout your life and see what that mosaic see

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the shape that that that that takes all right uh peter friedman is on uh line four should we take a

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talk to him or take a break oh we'll get him on the phone right now let's do that peter

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yo hey man uh thank you for calling in my pleasure my pleasure i'm listening to you i'm thinking am i

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a coward or a fool or or a brave man or what am i doing here huh oh listen i bought paul newman's

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race car for five million bucks at an auction so you give it away what's that did you give it away

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hell no i'm driving it no dude that's not the way to go i'm giving this away are you

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are you going to give that six million dollar guitar away you know it brother how's that not

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before i've done some good how does i didn't buy it i didn't buy it for me i bought it to highlight

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the crisis worldwide for musicians entertainers people on both sides of the camera and microphone

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because that supported me for my whole life and my family so now i've got a bit of coin i'm going to do

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something for them what are you going to do that's great ah yeah good question so you know there's a lot

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of talk and there's letters and there's this that but i've got friends all over the world who are

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literally sleeping on each other's floors they can't have food they've got kids there's no medical

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there's no wage support there's no mental health support there's nothing because we don't consider

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them as workers uh but then we all want to go to a gig and that's got to stop so yes and the amount

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of tension i've got it's awesome i've got probably a billion people have seen it or more every bit of

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press worldwide they're all asking me what are you doing this for i've got a vehicle to actually

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say right we need to change it i've even got government people saying they want to help but

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what should we do now i've got a voice i've got to move quickly but we've got a voice so i'm going

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to tour it around the world all the proceeds are going to go to this foundation i'm doing which is

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a lobbying foundation then i'm going to sell the guitar as well and there's lots of other fundraising

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things i'm going to do with it but yeah i don't need it hanging on my wall wow you're so much

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better than i am yeah i'm not i'm not a i'm not a num nut well actually no my girl thinks i'm a

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num nut but anyway well first off you know what check out the photo what a fool i'm holding it up

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i was gonna say and i can't play you see right which is right side up uh yeah man how do you get

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we use road mic microphone so so thanks to that and and so do all the all the good shows i guess and

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musicians and everything else how how does that company work how did you did you start road or

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did you yeah i did yeah i started i don't know any money it's a nice spot to be in but i uh wasn't

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well it feels like it wasn't that long ago i'm 62 this year and that's uh 30 years of slog and i was

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in la in the 90s when all the nirvana stuff was going down and that's when i was melting i was uh

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super fat because i eat when i'm depressed and i was drinking and eating shitty pizza and walking the

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streets trying to sell my prop my mic or one mic that's how low i was because i'd lost my house

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lost everything i had little kids but man magic happened and i ended up being reasonably wealthy

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more than i'll ever need and so yeah i'm thinking about what to do with it i'm not giving it to the

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kids there's no lucky sperm club needed for them they're happy i'm happy and let's do something

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what the what did they estimate estimate the uh the guitar would go for i mean i've been to a lot

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of car auctions they usually have an estimate yeah i i uh instead of talking about instead of start

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i put a bid in at a million they uh earlier on like uh because i found out about a couple of months ago

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and i thought i've got a one and a half two something like that and then it blitzed past what i thought

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was my highest thing in seconds and then i'm starting to shake and think hopefully i don't

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throw up on the auctioneer and then um there's some seriously much people in this country as you

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all know and i thought if they want to hit me they're going to hit me and so i thought well the

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only way is to try and bluff it and so when the uh bids came in and it's about three i thought all right

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whack a mill on it immediately don't muck around with hundreds and then somebody went oh it's four

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something all right well make it five and then i probably thought he's a maniac he's just going to keep

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going um and i would have i would have you know 10 20 30 whatever i wanted it because of what i can

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do with it 30 million is not going to pay you know give a hot dog to anybody in the music industry for

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you know it's really a major change for the rest of the you know the the world and the industry

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ongoing well but this is cheap for that man d uh was funny as i was thinking back on paul newman's

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daytona rolex the first bid was 10 million dollars and somebody thought they were going to blow

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everyone out of the water just freak everyone out and go 10 million and everyone stopped and gathered

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themselves and then it went up to 18 million bucks yeah yeah dude see that's the thing i met a couple

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of people drove down from their places and said i want to meet this guy and they got real money

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and i just freaked them out and they said i want to meet the guy who made me a uh what is it a

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bridesmaid because i don't that never happens and i thought oh then it did but it was good it's very

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very good so the guitar the guitar is going to tour around the country yeah it's gonna it's gonna it's

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gonna go worldwide yeah and i'm gonna also um you know have little uh some acoustic gig things

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it's got to be played you know this is like Stradivarius you don't leave them in a box

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um and then there's other things that's going to go with it and with it we're lobbying you know

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here in the states uk germany you know this would be in berlin paris all for oz everywhere and it's

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actually i've just been contacted by a massive promotion company they're doing a huge tour with

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orchestra etc all through europe uh nirvana uh in 2022 and they're asking if i would be wanting to be

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involved with that yeah sure of course wow and of course all the big names and i'm like you know

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in the uk the states really huge old-time artists as we all know they're all going yeah

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this is not some guy trying to promote himself so they're in as well well peter uh we're the timing

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was perfect because we're just talking about living a life that wasn't fear-based and uh i thought you

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spending six million bucks on that guitar was a an example of it but spending six million bucks on it

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and then uh raising money and then at some point getting rid of it and giving the money to the

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charities is even much further than i'd even anticipated so uh hey and that's you know you

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i know what you do you're the same guy so people don't know you don't trumpet it but there are a

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lot of good people in the world um and and we just got to focus and then we all love the arts

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now's the time to support the people well in my own little stupid way when i went to houston and did

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four shows in houston as they sort of partially reopened they said we'll give all the money to the

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houston food bank from the four shows and i said no give one show's worth of money to the houston food

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bank and give the other three shows give those proceeds to the people who work at the club

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the bartenders and the waiters i've seen so many times where 20 30 million's been uh you know in

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good faith given to the charity and then eight months later they still haven't worked out how to

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get it out right that's insane i you know these people need help today yeah you need a maniac

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business like a man like me goes i got the money in my pocket i don't need to ask anybody's permission

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i do this get out of my way well peter uh thank you and uh continued uh continued uh godspeed i i should

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yeah man but be careful now you erupt in thanks man no my uh my feeling is i'll do what i can when

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i can do it but uh i'm gonna get i'm gonna drive that uh newman race car that's uh that's my take but

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you know i gotta tell you there is something to having whether it's a car or a guitar or anything

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else that rhymes with car guitar is taking it out there and letting people like sit in it see it show

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it hear it you know just put just just travel it around i mean that car's been to england and back

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with me driving it up the driveway up up there uh it's goodwood did i hear correctly uh is peter

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friedman part of the warren buffett uh there's no such thing as lucky sperm club is that what he said

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well he certainly quoted that but i don't know if he was i mean i'm i'm just saying i know warren

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buffett sort of famously doesn't go around handing out you know his inheritance to his kids and

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grandkids and that sort of thing well most successful people know that giving people at the

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there there's two things that i'm really giving a lot of thought to as i skate through this life

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um how destructive a victim mentality is and how destructive free shit is to everyone it's

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destructive to the son of the millionaire it's destructive to the person that's perpetually

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hooked on on welfare or subsidized housing like it there's there's a version of it that works but

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but but you know there's a there's a there's a version of it of like you know when you when

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your kid turns 30 you know if they if they're employed then they'll get x they'll do x amount

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of draw on this or if they turn 35 and they're married and they have kids then they'll have a draw

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on that there's no dump that works you know kid turns 18 boom here's 50 million dollars that that's a

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that's an overdose and i think there's a verse there's a social version of it of you know you

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can get this for a limited period of time if you're looking to get a job and and blah blah blah the part

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where you just go in perpetuity it killed that kills people rich and poor all right let's take a

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quick break you go to you can visit uh road that's r-o-d-e.com for more of that uh info on there

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on a good man's product we'll come back we'll do the news with gina grad right after this

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give me the news with gina grad

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breaking viral all those crazy trump tweets give me news with gina grad trouble in the middle east

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celebrity drunk meltdowns deep news with gina gina

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the news with gina grad so some uh updates on bubba wallace who was going to be on this show

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and i imagine you'll you'll speak to him at some point um a noose was found in his garage stall

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sunday at talladega and now nascar and the justice department and the fbi are investigating it as a

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possible hate crime wallace who's the only black driver nascar's top circuit in an outspoken supporter

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of uh black lives matter wrote in a very lengthy tweet part of it said today's despicable reminder

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of how much further we have to go oh sorry today's act of racism and hatred leaves me incredibly saddened

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serves as a painful reminder of how much further we have to go as a society uh wallace has been

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outspoken called out nascar to ban the confederate flag at races they did and according to nascar the

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garage area because i thought you'd ask well who would get in there and how uh is restricted to

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essential personnel which includes race teams nascar officials security and health and safety

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personnel and during the show just now i got another little alert we have uh some footage um

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the tweet from fox sports says after a noose was found in a garage stall last night driver

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so show support above wallace go ahead so he's driving and when they pull back the camera out

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just a huge group of people walking around him next to him in front of him behind him so this

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story picked up some traction two hours later they're going to put him into the wall at 205

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miles an hour but for now that's just business for now they're united uh yeah willie t is going to

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be on don lemon's show i think uh tonight is as we tape this so nate just told me that uh willie t

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is going to because uh you know all this stuff in the news why not go old school and talk to a guy

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who was there in in the 70s yeah late 70s yeah and you know what i had this horrible cynical jaded

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thought that i'm not proud of and also i know i'm not alone what was one of the first horrible

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things you thought of when i said a noose was found in bubba wallace's garage stall

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did another celebrity come to mind oh yeah smollett yeah i'm like smollett ruined this for everybody now

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is everyone thinking oh or did it really though yeah there's a couple ways to look at it so the

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one way is uh yeah this is the problem when people do this kind of stuff the now you're all forced to

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go hmm let's wait and see uh you raise that eyebrow which unfortunately people earn you know themselves

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there's like a small version of this where somebody tells you something and you go it doesn't seem like

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that person and then there's a societal version of it but then there's another part of me that thought

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who in their right mind with all that he's going through smollett becoming a essentially a pariah

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right and every human being and a camera everywhere these days who would try to pull

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this off only someone as daring as a nascar driver thank you

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well said but would you guys try to pull anything off these days i'd be scared i'd be scared the next

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day they go you know there was a bird with a gopro on it there was a bird with a gopro up its ass saw

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that whole fucking thing you said you did corolla like i'd just go i'm sure there's a ring doorbell

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or a gopro on a pigeon or something like i i would be scared to try to pull anything off yes and to

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your point a lot of very surprised young people are getting knocks at their door it seems like lately

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um when they thought they were just anonymous looters you know running into malls and grabbing stuff

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the cameras were everywhere and little by little uh they're getting arrested like me how did you how

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did you pick me out i don't know because your face is on 14 cameras in a mall could you imagine

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just the simple fundamental act of killing one's spouse and dumping their body somewhere

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how i could not on record i could not how in i grew up is that being an that was a that was an option

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that was a marital option according to what i saw growing up every third movie was somebody had to

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dig a grave and dump them in the river and like you know there's like that thing going out at night

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putting in the trunk of the car goodfellas you know whatever it's an impossibility now right i you

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couldn't i don't know how you'd even do that it's sad that my kids have to grow up in a society where

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they can't toy with the notion of killing their spouse yeah no longer an option getting away with it

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makes it crazier that all we see on uh next door which is like a community app for your neighborhood

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is like people posting like video from their ring doorbell of porch pirates or people stealing stuff

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and nothing ever happens no like yes we can we can we have the capabilities uh to do all this but we

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nobody cares who's not to yeah it's got to get up to murder before they they do anything well again

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that's what got i've always say unintended consequences that uh that that guy got shot for the laptop

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computer because the guy wanted it back and passed it in and told the cops he's got a gun

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that that creates that yeah it's gonna be a lot of the law the law is gonna be an interesting subject

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over the next few years yeah well you know we've heard a lot about um aunt jemima and characters such

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as that and we got to get rid of them and little twist in the aunt jemima story everybody seems

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perfectly happy to get rid of this uh this character this imagery from this box the company

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does uh people involved in social justice do but guess who's completely against changing this

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uh terry cruz i'm thinking of the blackest the most ironic person that could be samuel jackson it

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couldn't be couldn't be conan o'brien has raised his voice i mean that wouldn't work right it's got to

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be a black guy black original is the original model it brian's very close it is it is a black

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family it's the families of both of the women who were the models for aunt jemima families uh are are

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very upset um relatives of the late lillian richard she was one and anna short harrington um they were

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hired by quaker to portray the character in the 20s and 30s and they've spoken out after pepsi co said you

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know this these are based on racial stereotypes we were getting rid of him the great great grandson

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of harrington had a lot to say in a recent interview i just i just pulled one quote because

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he was fired up and he says uh that the company's solution being to erase his great grandmother's

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history hurts uh aunt jemima brand originally depicted a heavyset black woman wearing the garb

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of a kitchen maid and a kerchief commonly worn by slaves and then the next uh iteration of that was

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was sort of softened i guess for a better word a bit and in the wake of this decision now they're

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talking and we've talked about uncle ben we've talked about cream of wheat and now

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mrs butterworth who i did not know how to race i'll say was she black i don't know but i wonder if

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the family is still receiving something from that estate that that was my first cynical thought was

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like the grandson shouldn't be that upset unless he's still getting a check

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yeah i mean i don't know but i i do wonder i don't want to be a cynic but i think one of the

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family members of the aunt jemima model woman put the noose up in bubba wallace's parking stall

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that's what i think james woods tweeted about that i tend to believe the man that's solid yeah um

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you know what i was thinking about in in our all woke no joke world and one that i could actually

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really sign off on and in in the new world order if we're going to tear down every statue and we're

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going to rename every military base and we're going to change the labeling on on all the breakfast

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all the breakfast stuff flavor town ohio and and and one of those one of those things uh one of those

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things i was thinking about right versus uh columbus right and in that world the one i was looking at

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that no one's really brought up it it doesn't land under black lives matter and it's not a me too

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thing but think about our relationships with animals and you know how we treat animals and

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factory farming and or anyone has ever videotaped like yanking like uh the karen who was yanking her

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dog around in the park saying there's an african-american man you know we're more upset about what she was

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doing to the dog uh than the african-american man i was watching sports center last night

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they were doing the whatever preakness or whatever derby the guy's going down the back straight he's

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got the riding crop out and he's viciously beating the shit out of the horse like he's got a weapon

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the crop and he's just he's just whacking away like as hard as he can on the animal he's riding and i

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thought how come that's kosher like why did we how come that slid under everyone's radar there's a

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midget who's who's physically assaulting the horse he's on and i mean they're beating the shit out of

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that horse yeah i i i can only say i just listened to a recent podcast uh by andrew jenks and i now i

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can't remember the name of it is but he's a very interesting guy and he did a whole thing on all the

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horses dying at santa anita and apparently i mean yes mainstream you're right it does not come up very

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often they were cropped they were cropped to death yes heat up vehemently against horse racing and a lot

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of you know like i can't have this conversation with tim conway jr because he put me through a wall

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but verbally but i'm not a fan it's hard to watch i think a lot of people don't love watching it um but

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the series was interesting and they talked about you know how the soil was packed too tight so you try

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running on concrete and see what it does to your ankles and that sort of thing so i know it's

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coming out there now especially because of what happened at santa anita but you're right we it's

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not talked about regularly amongst people who are often outraged by animal abuse it's it's sort of

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we i was used to it sort of in the past but as i watch it now it's it's a it's it's off-putting to

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seem just really laying into this beating the side of the horse with this something that's meant to hurt

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it's meant to get their attention all right what else we got gina grand well speaking of riding

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crops new york city's hottest sex parties have had to modify some things during covet 19 so there's

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this club called nsfw which we all know is not safe for work they're called new society for wellness

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and they're a members only sex club in new york they uh recently hosted their first sextival

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since the pandemic began and some of the guidelines are a little bit different you'd think it's no

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holds barred but you know you don't want to come home with uh with something else you didn't you

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didn't walk in with no holds barred that's good that's funny so nsfw implemented a new set of

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guidelines for the gathering including requirements you got to wear masks you got to wear gloves

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and you have to bring a clean change of clothes and you can only have set you can't have new sex

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you can only have sex with person the person that you came with no pun intended instead guests are

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encouraged to enjoy themselves quote unquote in front of other guests or watch others who came you know

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who spouses have sex at the first sextival held last weekend footage from remote off-site adult

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performances also broadcast across monitors because you're just not able to get in there like you used

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to be you know i uh i i don't normally heap praise on like real sex but the show because i normally

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i i i'm normally angry i'm angry at that show but they have taught me some valuable lessons because i i grew

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up if there was an orgy it was it was 22 year old hotties as far as the eye could see like you

524
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watch a movie like caligula back in the day roddy mcdowell i think uh you know they have their like

525
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orgy scenes it was beautiful maidens everywhere just sucking off everybody but if you watch real sex

526
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you'll find out the actual real the actual version of this uh those chicks look like whoever's in the

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crowd at a tractor pull and uh you want no part of that you want no part of that malcolm mcdowell

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malcolm what'd i say roddy roddy he was uh yeah he was uh as you know i famously went to a

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orgy in riverside and that is nothing no truer words were ever spoken than by what you just said

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about what what's really out there and i didn't participate because um who who would when uh when

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you're in a in an airplane hangar in the inland empire yeah but i would also argue i don't know

532
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why show up if you're not you know down my first your first how did that one go again they had

533
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mattresses everywhere there was body paint going on yes yes i was invited by people who worked for some

534
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facet of playboy something because i was friends with you know an eclectic group of people and you can

535
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only get in a guy can only get in with a girl so a lot of like you know pseudo journalists and you

536
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know entertainers or whatever a couple of us were invited so we drive you know two hours out in the

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middle of nowhere and go to this giant just huge warehouse and the front room is like it's literally

538
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like a bar mitzvah there's a buffet set up there's there's a band but then there's like elderly and

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slightly older than middle-aged women in like fishnet body stocking like neon green

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dress shirts and no underwear pants and shoes see this is what i've been worried about yeah

541
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:24,920
where was the business part of this okay so the only so this is this is how you know women uh have

542
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come a long way baby you're only allowed to go into those rooms if you're escorted by a woman

543
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so you couldn't just be like a creep you know going in being like hey what's shaking over here

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so i would go into every room and upstairs in the loft it was just a sea of mattresses and people

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getting down and so i'm up there in like a little sundress and i'm just like watching everyone and the

546
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couples are waving at me and i'm waving back but wave means like come on by when they're having sex

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yeah everyone is and so then i went into like the dungeon rooms and like the swing rooms and the body

548
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paint rooms and i let them body paint because there's nothing else for me to do and um but yeah

549
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all the dudes apparent i don't know if there's a rule but all the dudes had dress shirts on they just

550
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didn't have any underwear did they airbrush you yeah was it a dude doing it or a chick doing it

551
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full rack full uh full open rack no like i was in a strapless sundress so from maybe a centimeter

552
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below the strap to yeah i really have so much paint not really come on i think you've made your old

553
00:59:34,460 --> 00:59:41,860
shive joke before i was thinking more of the wagner you know power painters that they sell at home

554
00:59:41,860 --> 00:59:47,440
depot like when you have to do a lot of fencing i think i have pictures from it i'll send them

555
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:54,100
like an outfield like an outfield fence yeah um send some to larry miller oh that's right but it

556
00:59:54,100 --> 01:00:00,480
was i mean it was it felt it didn't feel dirty like oh naughty dirty it felt actually dirty yeah yeah

557
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:06,320
i don't know there were people we went with who are gorgeous who are in the porn industry who are paid

558
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:11,840
to be like party starters and they wouldn't do anything with anybody just to further your

559
01:00:11,860 --> 01:00:18,820
point yeah you had me at orgy but you lost me at riverside yeah there's no that's not good orgy

560
01:00:18,820 --> 01:00:29,000
country oh how about the band good news guys got us a gig that's right right yeah yeah uh i was

561
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,440
picturing as you were going upstairs you were talking about like the business was taking place

562
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:38,860
upstairs i was picturing the elevator from the shining but instead of blood

563
01:00:38,860 --> 01:00:48,780
yeah sure i made uh i don't know what the it's some stupid i'm gonna make a gross joke but i when

564
01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:59,200
i was over at uh i was over at dennis dennis quaid's like street block party whatever um oh we started

565
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:07,440
talking about uh giving blood and what blood type everyone was and i don't know my blood type does

566
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,700
everyone know their blood type no i always said they should put on your license but i didn't really

567
01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:18,160
know i didn't know that and then we were staying around kind of shooting the shit and uh i said

568
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:23,840
something like i used to give blood or something and and dennis made a joke like oh i thought you gave

569
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:31,700
sperm or something like that and then uh i said no different different cups we don't uh we don't

570
01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:39,640
want to make thousand island or some gross version of of that and uh thank you it was funny because uh

571
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:44,600
because i was a little buzzed i think things are funnier when you're that way sorry what else one more

572
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:55,600
you got it um oh so okay uh do you guys know what durian is i've i've tasted it so um this is

573
01:01:55,600 --> 01:02:01,440
oh is that weird fruit that's yes this does not surprise me at all 12 german postal workers received

574
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:08,900
medical treatment and dozens more were evacuated due to this pungent suspect suspicious package uh which

575
01:02:08,900 --> 01:02:15,500
turned out to be a shipment of this notoriously disgustingly smelly fruit durian so german german

576
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:22,940
postal worker sounds like a metaphor for this guy's uh this guy's prompter this guy's moron his on time

577
01:02:22,940 --> 01:02:29,540
record is better than a german postal worker like it just sounds like a metaphor for something right

578
01:02:29,540 --> 01:02:36,940
model of efficiency right yes so cnn reports that police firefighters emergency services all called to

579
01:02:36,940 --> 01:02:41,800
this post office in this little bavarian town when they noticed this horrible smell coming out of

580
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:48,060
this package everyone was evacuated 60 employees um it turned out to be this package of durian it's

581
01:02:48,060 --> 01:02:54,540
this spiky fruit it's very creamy when you taste it and it's popular in southeast asia but the smell is so

582
01:02:54,540 --> 01:03:00,380
bad it has been banned all over singapore you can't take it in subways it can't be in hotel rooms

583
01:03:00,380 --> 01:03:08,660
the article says it smells like rotten food or dirty socks i described it as rotten onions mixed with cat

584
01:03:08,660 --> 01:03:15,600
pee i can't tell you how disgusting it smells but doesn't taste that bad so it ended up being six

585
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:21,600
ambulances five first responders two emergency vehicles uh it turns out this guy was just sending

586
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:29,260
his buddy a package of durian that he so enjoys but it cleared out a 60 person post office not good with

587
01:03:29,260 --> 01:03:35,420
bubble wrap by the way if you look at the actual fruit do you guys here's so here's how i am with

588
01:03:35,420 --> 01:03:45,380
the smell which is when you smell you know hobo crap or somebody yaks in your car and then you want to

589
01:03:45,380 --> 01:03:52,580
throw up and and and blah blah blah then it's horrible but when you find out that the origin is not bad

590
01:03:52,580 --> 01:04:00,940
it takes the edge off it immediately yeah so it's like we've all had it's like it's a kind of a two-way street

591
01:04:00,940 --> 01:04:05,680
i've always remember if you've been in enough locker rooms once in a while you'll get a whiff of

592
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:11,280
something and it smells like somebody ordered a hawaiian pizza in here or something and it's some dude's ass

593
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:16,780
and sack who's who's next to you but there's sometimes there's a smell where it can simulate

594
01:04:16,780 --> 01:04:23,880
something that's actually good or bad but once you it's the origin that matters more for me so if

595
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:29,860
it's putrid smelling that's bad if it's a fruit that tastes good i'm not freaked out but if it's

596
01:04:29,860 --> 01:04:36,920
putrid because some rotting corpse is in the subway car then now i don't know how you explain that but

597
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:42,380
the point is is for me it's about the origin how many times or is it just me but it can't be you have

598
01:04:42,380 --> 01:04:47,960
to play the game in a new space chopped onions or body odor because those are very different one's

599
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:55,400
great one's not so great yeah there are many things that if you didn't have a context for them would be

600
01:04:55,400 --> 01:05:03,120
good or bad all right let's do one more gina grant you got it uh oh well this is a decent one for ace

601
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:08,560
on the roof as your dad would say a new survey says that a majority of respondents known as home

602
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:14,660
improvement projects uh are of course on the uptick during all this lockdown stuff and that's

603
01:05:14,660 --> 01:05:20,400
all fine and good unfortunately fox news reports that seven out of ten of the people surveyed said

604
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:25,920
these projects did not turn out well everybody's attempting it everybody's ruining their homes

605
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:31,860
one intent admitted that the the finished product looked much worse than it did when they first started

606
01:05:31,860 --> 01:05:36,740
so the average home improvement attempt reportedly has an average of three things that go wrong

607
01:05:36,740 --> 01:05:42,840
the major problem is incorrect assembly and respondents listed a variety of home projects

608
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:48,560
that they ruined uh kitchen countertops and cabinets upgraded lighting switches and outlets

609
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:54,400
and bathroom fixtures kitchen countertops is pretty advanced isn't it adam like we we've done

610
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:59,220
kitchen countertops and i wouldn't attempt to do that you know put in your marble well it kind of

611
01:05:59,220 --> 01:06:05,880
exactly how quartzite it kind of it kind of is kind of depends on if you're going over the existing

612
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:11,080
or you're going to demo out the existing and put the new ones in but yeah you got to cut out for the

613
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:17,460
sink and cut out for the fixtures and there's a lot that can potentially go wrong in the kitchen

614
01:06:17,460 --> 01:06:23,060
countertop era people are so bored they're going you know what i can remodel my house

615
01:06:23,060 --> 01:06:32,760
i remember once jimmy remodeled his house and he went with two scary things which is a butcher box

616
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:39,320
countertop sorry not butcher box butcher block but your sponsor yeah delicious yeah butcher like

617
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:45,780
a big wood cutting board that is large enough to be right the whole countertop was that which seems

618
01:06:45,780 --> 01:06:54,460
cool but an over mount sink never go with the over mount sink never go with the over mount sink and

619
01:06:54,460 --> 01:06:59,720
this one had like a half inch lip as it went over the top now they're much easier to mount because you

620
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:04,940
just cut a rough hole and drop them in and it's clean but all the water builds up on the outside

621
01:07:04,940 --> 01:07:10,780
of the sink started delaminating all this wood almost immediately turning black and just like

622
01:07:10,780 --> 01:07:17,340
spreading out the uh the countertop i had a countertop that was slate once that was screwed up

623
01:07:17,340 --> 01:07:25,540
get something good like uh some quartz or some synthetic whatever and go with that under mount sink yes

624
01:07:25,540 --> 01:07:31,260
brian i was gonna say was it the fancy like farmhouse sink that has like bib over the front

625
01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:36,960
or did he or i'm imagining this is recent or old did he cheap out just get like a crappy over mount

626
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:47,020
sink it was a crappy over mount sink and this is probably god this is 20 years ago okay plus but i just

627
01:07:47,020 --> 01:07:56,300
remember walking through the kitchen and seeing it and then also the other part that's tough is the

628
01:07:56,300 --> 01:08:03,320
seam so the countertop is like you know it's like i don't know 14 feet of counter so it's two pieces

629
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:11,920
of the butcher block there right and so smartly you put the seam of the two seven foot pieces where the

630
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:16,860
sink cut out's gonna go because it's the least you're not gonna see the whole seam you'll see three

631
01:08:16,860 --> 01:08:21,840
inches in the back and two inches in the front but when the water all builds up in the back and the

632
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:28,580
front then the seam starts sucking in through the seam and delaminating it and anyway no one lives in

633
01:08:28,580 --> 01:08:35,280
that house anymore i mean start over everyone everyone moved on but i i do clearly remember that

634
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:43,140
the other thing that i remember very clearly is i go into people's houses when they're remodeling

635
01:08:43,140 --> 01:08:51,420
their house and i go don't do this otherwise that's gonna happen and i was talking to uh gina's

636
01:08:51,420 --> 01:08:58,220
gina his uh jimmy's ex-wife at the time and i remember saying you got to go with the fridge that's

637
01:08:58,220 --> 01:09:03,860
two doors you got to go two doors not one big door because if you do the one big door when you swing it

638
01:09:03,860 --> 01:09:11,840
open it's gonna go right to the island and just cut the place off in half and uh i remember sort of

639
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:18,520
smash cut to she went with the one big door and then threw a party and it's like literally smash

640
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:24,140
cut to me walking through the kitchen with the door open and it cutting the kitchen off in half and me

641
01:09:24,140 --> 01:09:29,520
like knocking on it like it was a front door like excuse me i'm going through the back and it closes to

642
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:35,720
expose her standing there and i just went that's what we remember i said this part that's what just

643
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:43,400
that's what just happened but i've had that conversation uh many times and uh if you ever

644
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:51,860
want to uh hear lynette dry heave you just repeat this mantra when i said to her uh many times i should

645
01:09:51,860 --> 01:09:58,100
charge people five thousand dollars to walk through their house she just goes oh god i'm like wrong with

646
01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:05,120
you i'm serious i mean it especially uh especially when it's being worked on it's been a while since

647
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:12,440
we broached this uh many years actually but uh hey gina yeah the fridge in your house oh freezer on

648
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:19,520
the top or freezer on the bottom i think you know the answer to that i don't look could be freezer on the

649
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:27,200
side oh you know what i'm just gonna say this we have a cross from john's what do you think

650
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:34,380
the answer to that question is john's which used to be von's but now became john's all right this is

651
01:10:34,380 --> 01:10:42,160
not our stuff let me uh now what do we figure out freezer on the bottom was winner freezer on the top

652
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:49,840
was a loser that's right freezer on the side was yeah you'll get there yeah yeah we'll get there

653
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:59,400
well i will tell you and you guys know this but you know it's with all this crazy mishigas we haven't

654
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:04,280
really been you know talking about weddings and stuff but what we always have been on the same page

655
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:09,940
about is i'm not throwing away money on some fairy tale bullshit when we're trying to buy a house

656
01:11:09,940 --> 01:11:16,180
so don't you worry we'll we'll have a a mic small tasteful micro wedding and then we'll get our house

657
01:11:16,180 --> 01:11:22,400
oh do we have a tweet of me making fun of uh andy and gina's stove oh yeah i didn't even know

658
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:27,120
i didn't know i was talking to gina and andy i thought shit about my house i was just making fun

659
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:32,740
of a random a random i don't i don't look for where the tweets are from sometimes i just see things

660
01:11:32,740 --> 01:11:35,180
thank you for that yeah so andy writes

661
01:11:35,180 --> 01:11:43,100
sorry andy i was supposed to run the san diego marathon but it's canceled running 26.2 miles

662
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:47,920
tomorrow my own time pre-marathon meal two ribeyes and ultra salt per your instructions

663
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:53,900
i'm sure you approve and he put a picture of uh yeah ribeye in a pan on the stove and andy i mean

664
01:11:53,900 --> 01:12:00,300
adam just retweets it going looks like the meat is worth more than the stove oh sorry gina and andy

665
01:12:00,300 --> 01:12:04,500
but that's okay because many people tweeted back at you now you know what to get them for their

666
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:10,860
wedding oh shit yeah now you're on the hook definitely gonna get you a new frying pan that's

667
01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:16,900
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668
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669
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made by husband wife team by the way i think out in san diego area who uh came up with it the american

670
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671
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and why wouldn't uh it add it to whiskey also it's fun when we have parties we always bust it out and

672
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uh i said uh during our christmas party it was it was gone man good conversation fun subject tastes

673
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674
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675
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676
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682
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volume john mcafee that uh if you guys don't know that name and i wasn't that familiar with john mcafee

683
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:54,240
before i researched him a little bit and got into this uh interview um it's insane he's uh living

684
01:13:54,240 --> 01:14:01,720
sort of off the grid out of the united states um he's a kind of like a i don't know he's sort of part

685
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:08,260
bond villain and part james bond yeah he's kind of james bond and a james bond villain simultaneously

686
01:14:08,260 --> 01:14:16,900
he's a genius and uh he has a story to tell and it is interesting and lots of thoughts about uh

687
01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:23,180
this country and where it's going so uh please listen to that a second also uh you can check out

688
01:14:23,180 --> 01:14:30,280
uh our pluto tv channel chassis 585 got all the automotive stuff there the winning racing life of

689
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:35,160
paul newman and stuff it got me adam kroll going racing and all a bunch of good stuff on there too

690
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:42,660
and uh yeah keep buying that book y'all it just helps tempe uh arizona the improv coming up july

691
01:14:42,660 --> 01:14:48,120
3rd and 4th we're doing a live podcast there and we're doing stand-up as well so come on out get

692
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some tickets and celebrate with us uh thank you gina and bald and uh john mcafee next john mcafee has

693
01:14:59,340 --> 01:15:06,280
uh joined us he's um god i'm trying to think of how to describe john mcafee computer programmer

694
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:15,780
businessman uh politician to some degree or budding politician uh raconteur i don't know thanks for

695
01:15:15,780 --> 01:15:24,740
joining the show john well thanks very much for uh having me on adam how how did we get where we are

696
01:15:24,740 --> 01:15:31,520
today let's see let's let's just um give a brief bio of your your life and then we'll we'll get on to

697
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:41,360
sort of more current subjects born on a military base in england correct um so american dad and english

698
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:54,440
mom um that's correct came to the united states at what age two at age two um always obviously

699
01:15:54,440 --> 01:16:03,360
into computers long before anyone else was or most were into computers well yeah if i bit my teeth

700
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:15,900
working at general electric in um 1968 and um worked on process automation which is it's still the most

701
01:16:15,900 --> 01:16:23,060
uh sophisticated and complex of all uh computer applications uh general electric had the only

702
01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:31,260
process automation computers at that time i worked uh for a year and a half automating australia iron

703
01:16:31,260 --> 01:16:38,700
and steel's uh rolling mill in port kembal of new south wales um that's where i learned everything

704
01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:47,360
hardware software how it interfaces uh timing uh we were programming uh obviously in assembly language

705
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:56,060
um process automation does not uh adapt itself to higher level languages because of timing issues

706
01:16:56,060 --> 01:17:02,900
so that's where i cut my teeth i've been in uh computing ever since is there anything that is

707
01:17:02,900 --> 01:17:10,600
really surprised you about computers as somebody who was in on the in the infancy of computers is

708
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:18,840
there something that you didn't foresee that that happened or could happen i didn't foresee anything i'll be

709
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:24,960
frank with you i mean listen my when i started first of all the the uh the process automation

710
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:34,200
computers were small at the time they were still the size of a small bedroom um uh later on if i went

711
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:40,600
from general electric to the nasa where we worked uh with the uh first ibm 360 mainframe that was

712
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:49,000
the size of you know an entire house uh and had the processing power of maybe one one hundredth of the

713
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:55,440
smartphone that you have uh in your pocket or on your desk or somewhere nearby right so let's just let's

714
01:17:55,440 --> 01:18:02,740
just stop there for one second the the stuff you work with at nasa was took up the size of a house

715
01:18:02,740 --> 01:18:11,540
and had one hundredth of the processing ability that most people's smartphone have absolutely

716
01:18:11,540 --> 01:18:17,440
absolutely not only that i mean its ease of use was non-existent we didn't have monitors back then

717
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:26,180
people we had uh buttons and switches uh on the front uh of the mainframe panel uh and then later on uh

718
01:18:26,180 --> 01:18:32,020
card readers which you could punch your program and when i forced the general electric you had to

719
01:18:32,020 --> 01:18:38,960
hard code uh by switching uh the actual machine instructions on the front of the panel and

720
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:47,200
pushing enter to set that into into the hardware then came punch cards um monitors didn't come around

721
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:55,660
until the um 1970s late 1970s uh computer monitor and keyboards those were like miraculous things

722
01:18:55,660 --> 01:19:04,860
uh back at that point in time so you go on to develop your own software company and sell it

723
01:19:04,860 --> 01:19:16,060
and uh become obviously very successful and enigmatic as well i'm reading here fled to uh guatemala but

724
01:19:16,060 --> 01:19:23,660
got arrested for illegally entering the country and uh it's just a note on the bottom of my page here but um

725
01:19:23,660 --> 01:19:32,160
and and so let's let's talk about that that life uh that you've you've chosen to lead how would you

726
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:38,600
describe it well yeah i'm just a typical entrepreneur i've been an entrepreneur since i was 11 and started

727
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:44,520
mowing uh my neighbor's yards in the summertime and shoveling their walks in the wintertime i mean

728
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:51,020
nobody likes mowing a lawn to get real but i'm an 11 year old boy coming by with a lawnmower saying i'll

729
01:19:51,020 --> 01:19:59,660
blow your lawn for two dollars uh you know i made a fortune um so later on i had paper routes um

730
01:19:59,660 --> 01:20:08,400
uh i sold uh magazines uh put myself through college that way um i've always been an entrepreneur i

731
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:15,560
don't like working for companies even though i've worked for many um in computers there was simply no

732
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:24,620
other way to uh maintain at least in the beginning to maintain your your relevancy uh all the computers

733
01:20:24,620 --> 01:20:31,740
were owned by massive companies um insurance companies ibm univac general electric and so on

734
01:20:31,740 --> 01:20:38,200
so if you wanted to really get hands-on experience you had to work for a large company uh and i

735
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:43,840
developed that i was very good at it i was a math major i don't know why math comes easy to me but

736
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:52,540
it always has uh and software is simply mathematics that's all it is uh boolean algebra pure and simple

737
01:20:52,540 --> 01:21:00,340
um with a little bit of normal mathematics thrown in like add subtract multiply divide um

738
01:21:00,340 --> 01:21:08,760
so it just came very easy to me and i you know always excelled i could get any job i wanted i'd work

739
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:14,900
for a year usually save up my money quit and then travel for a year or two wherever i ran out of money

740
01:21:14,900 --> 01:21:24,280
if i'd get another job i mean i ran out in 1975 i think 75 munich germany i was traveling

741
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:33,180
really enjoying myself ran out of money i got a job with zeeman's um germany's largest electrical

742
01:21:33,180 --> 01:21:43,520
manufacturer um i ran out of uh money a couple years later in london got a job with rank xerox

743
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:52,680
which is the british uh subsidiary of xerox at that moment in time made computers so that's just the

744
01:21:52,680 --> 01:22:01,820
life i've lived why i don't know i like uh i like adventure i like seeing the world um i don't like

745
01:22:01,820 --> 01:22:11,100
authority and um you know people people say you know i have a um or what is the word they use a

746
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:20,660
disrespect of authority it's not true at all i'm simply indifferent to it well you know um let let's

747
01:22:20,660 --> 01:22:28,300
talk about that because i i'm trying to sort of it's obviously these are interesting times we're

748
01:22:28,300 --> 01:22:37,540
living in as it uh as it as in as it pertains to authority and my feeling with authority uh anyone

749
01:22:37,540 --> 01:22:46,720
who knows me knows i've talked about running red turn arrows red turn red arrows uh to turn left i've

750
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:52,560
been doing this for 25 years now i'm not doing what you're doing but what i'm saying is is that's

751
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:59,080
the government or the city or the state telling me to do something that's unreasonable and i can

752
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:06,360
safely turn left if the signal's green and the arrow's red so i just choose to do it and i've never

753
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:13,420
gotten a ticket but i wouldn't care if i if i did because i think that it's unreasonable to tell me to

754
01:23:13,420 --> 01:23:18,000
sit there at a light that's green and not turn left when it's safe to turn left and the signal

755
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:25,240
before it you could have turned left because it didn't have an arrow so uh now this sounds weird

756
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:31,840
but you know in a way we're kindred spirits in that this is a law and it's an authority but it

757
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:40,320
doesn't make sense to me so i'm not going to do it well i'm the same um and only i extended to

758
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:46,800
maybe a little broader areas of my life i've been arrested 21 times been in jail 21 times in 11

759
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:55,440
different countries none of them for violent offenses um uh guatemala uh was arrested um

760
01:23:55,440 --> 01:24:02,500
i don't i just don't believe in borders for example national borders i mean it's an invisible line

761
01:24:02,500 --> 01:24:11,860
and on one side there's one person on the other i just um i um janice and i just got out of jail

762
01:24:11,860 --> 01:24:20,060
in the dominican republic um 10 months ago um by the way if you're looking for jail experience people

763
01:24:20,060 --> 01:24:29,100
i would not recommend the dominican republic it's uh it's the absolute worst jail system on this planet

764
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:36,420
there's no running water no bathrooms uh it's pretty ugly janice is your wife and you're in

765
01:24:36,420 --> 01:24:44,520
there janice is my wife how long were you guys in there oh just four days trivial um but um but no

766
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:50,360
i've you know i just uh and i'm wanted by the way by the united states authorities now because i've

767
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:57,940
refused to pay taxes for 11 years um it's unconstitutional and illegal and people tell me

768
01:24:57,940 --> 01:25:02,780
well good god if you don't pay taxes uh we're gonna you know how do we pay for things please

769
01:25:02,780 --> 01:25:12,880
people prior to 1913 we had no taxes whatsoever and we were the industrial giant of the world people

770
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:19,400
are we now no we have virtually no industry our steel mills our steel industry is gone our

771
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:26,060
automobile industry can barely keep up um with the chinese the japanese the germans

772
01:25:26,060 --> 01:25:35,080
um no we're no longer an industrial power we're military power um that's not the same thing it's

773
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:42,700
not at all uh so anyway i refuse to pay for 11 years um and i never will because they won't just pay it

774
01:25:42,700 --> 01:25:49,460
and come home i go no i refuse will not do it will not where are you now where are you now i can't tell

775
01:25:49,460 --> 01:25:56,880
you because we're in hiding um ever since okay so here's okay so the irs convened a grand jury on the

776
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:05,440
22nd of january of last year uh to charge janice myself with tax fraud now it's impossible for me to

777
01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:12,800
have committed tax fraud because i haven't even filed return tax fraud is lying uh deceiving no i've just

778
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:18,880
every year said i'm not filing you know where i live they left me alone for 10 of those years um

779
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:25,420
nine of those years up until two years ago when i started speaking on international stages about

780
01:26:25,420 --> 01:26:30,660
listen you don't want to pay taxes here's how you do it use privacy coins and distributed exchanges and

781
01:26:30,660 --> 01:26:36,780
no one will ever know anything about your finances well that didn't sit well with them and so in any

782
01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:43,660
case um i found out about the grand jury and i decided i'm not playing that game i found out about

783
01:26:43,660 --> 01:26:50,200
it in advance even though they're supposed to be extremely top secret and so janice myself my entire

784
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:57,480
staff and our four large dogs that went to miami and hopped on our yacht and sailed to the bahamas

785
01:26:57,480 --> 01:27:03,620
where they had no taxes and therefore it's not a crime not to pay them and therefore i could not be

786
01:27:03,620 --> 01:27:09,780
legally uh extradited in either one of those how did you find out this information this grand jury

787
01:27:09,780 --> 01:27:19,520
information uh i'm john mcafee i mean i've i've started the world's largest computer security firm

788
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:27,200
i mean if you're a safe manufacturer and you cannot crack every safe in the world then i want to know

789
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:33,280
which ones you can't and then i'll go and you buy that safe you understand no i mean if i can

790
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:39,500
stop people from breaking into systems i can sure as hell break into anything i want uh i've

791
01:27:39,500 --> 01:27:46,280
faith to admit to the fact that but no i don't do anything in order to hurt harm or you know make

792
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:52,920
money no i simply keep my ear to the ground when my name pops up anywhere in the digital sphere i want

793
01:27:52,920 --> 01:28:01,740
to know about it in any case so we found out went to the bahamas um now the the u.s desperately wants me

794
01:28:01,740 --> 01:28:06,180
now because we're in the bahamas i was thumbing my nose up the government and posting on twitter

795
01:28:06,180 --> 01:28:13,960
how taxes are illegal to about that i'm still doing uh keynotes and talks about how not to pay taxes

796
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:21,620
people um so the i don't know which agency but i found out about this too they're they came after us

797
01:28:21,620 --> 01:28:28,800
in um in late march um in the bahamas i found out we left about six hours before they arrived

798
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:34,380
uh went to cuba we were there for two months and the cuban government came and picked up janice and i

799
01:28:34,380 --> 01:28:41,900
um at the yacht club where we were docked i took us to a military base and a general came in and

800
01:28:41,900 --> 01:28:47,900
janice is here now it's a sort of you know the crazy in the song the general came in and said

801
01:28:47,900 --> 01:28:55,620
uh i'm very sorry but uh the united states has uh unofficially demanded that we return here to

802
01:28:55,620 --> 01:29:00,900
america you know my heart sank because if i go back to america i will never see the light of day i'll

803
01:29:00,900 --> 01:29:08,420
be like julian assange uh locked away in the basement of some you know prison for the rest of my days

804
01:29:08,420 --> 01:29:16,180
but the general said however we're we're uh disinclined to do that but you understand you're now a

805
01:29:16,180 --> 01:29:25,760
a very serious problem for us you have 72 hours to leave cuba and never return so we left i got a

806
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:32,080
boat our dogs our staff went to the four and a half days at sea to the dominican republic we were arrested

807
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:39,800
on the boat by internal security forces from the now this is how long and arm america has people just

808
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:48,660
so you understand the government that america has turned into in any case so we're arrested um

809
01:29:48,660 --> 01:29:51,180
what's the charge well we have to go back to america

810
01:29:51,180 --> 01:30:01,060
so that was everybody just got to go but just go back to america um so but fortunately this is not my

811
01:30:01,060 --> 01:30:08,100
first rodeo i got two very slick lawyers and the dominican republic and four days later they um

812
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:14,520
won our freedom without sending us back and uh we went to london and from there we've just gone

813
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:20,140
underground this isn't it's annoying to have to keep running from the american government because

814
01:30:20,140 --> 01:30:25,520
they're so good at chasing people well but now they don't know where we are do you do you believe

815
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:33,520
that i mean obviously you believe that they start going after you not for not paying your taxes but for

816
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:38,700
putting the message out that others didn't have to pay their taxes that that's that's of course

817
01:30:38,700 --> 01:30:44,640
listen for you know for nine years they left me alone please i paid over 50 million dollars in taxes

818
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:52,860
u.s government has federal taxes not to mention state and local over 50 i have not people received

819
01:30:52,860 --> 01:30:59,920
uh 50 million dollars in services i will say so well this is the argument i've made with people

820
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:05,360
all the time where they go well when are you going to pay your fair share you got to pay your fair

821
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:10,440
share like these rich guys don't pay their fair share i'm like i paid millions of dollars in taxes

822
01:31:10,440 --> 01:31:18,260
i didn't get anything for those right well what would my fair share be if 15 million dollars is not

823
01:31:18,260 --> 01:31:25,440
enough people please can you tell me your fair share is we take what the average american pays in taxes

824
01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:31,100
and then you pay that amount that's that's your fair share unless there's something you're getting

825
01:31:31,100 --> 01:31:37,660
like your own fire department or you get to speed or you get out of parking tickets yeah right then it

826
01:31:37,660 --> 01:31:42,160
should pay more for that i don't know however i would say jack shit i'll be honest with you other than

827
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:48,080
headaches yeah i know that's that's that's my point so it always drives me nuts when people use the

828
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:55,020
the phrase fair share that's not that's not the right way and also it's it's an interesting

829
01:31:55,020 --> 01:32:01,340
kind of smear campaign my mom is kind of an old hippie and she's you know getting near the end of

830
01:32:01,340 --> 01:32:07,180
her life and we had a conversation like two years ago and she looked at me and she said but adam rich

831
01:32:07,180 --> 01:32:13,300
people don't pay taxes and i said what do you mean they don't pay taxes they pay most of the taxes

832
01:32:13,300 --> 01:32:21,580
she had in her head guys like you who put in 50 million dollars into the system and you don't

833
01:32:21,580 --> 01:32:26,140
get to walk to the park and tell everyone to clear out stop the soccer game i'm gonna have a picnic

834
01:32:26,140 --> 01:32:36,340
no nothing nothing right in fact because because um i am or was in that bracket i mean i got audited

835
01:32:36,340 --> 01:32:42,160
constantly right and maybe another million dollars somewhere you haven't told us about no no i've got

836
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:49,300
rather than getting um preferential treatment i got treated like a derelict on the street i mean this

837
01:32:49,300 --> 01:32:57,680
is the truth of it where do you think this country is heading um in this current climate because it

838
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:06,400
feels to me like the the authoritarians that you're sort of talking about are really supercharged

839
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:12,720
and and and that under the umbrella and for me i'll i won't put words in your mouth but to me

840
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:20,440
they use the umbrella of safety everything is for your own safety for the safety of the whatever for

841
01:33:20,440 --> 01:33:27,400
the safety and then they regulate and tax based on safety they don't say because i want more power

842
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:34,560
they just go because because of safety and then they just move forward i mean if you take yeah go ahead

843
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:44,420
let's let's separate uh some of the words here for just a second country our country is not our

844
01:33:44,420 --> 01:33:52,960
government people our country is is the this vast beautiful expanse of magic you know the grand canyon

845
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:59,840
the rocky mountains two oceans um both of which are radically different and yet beautiful in their own

846
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:08,860
ways you've got deserts the vast fields of kansas good lord it's a beautiful country and on that land

847
01:34:08,860 --> 01:34:19,060
are the people the people plus the country is america the government is a servant or that was what it was

848
01:34:19,060 --> 01:34:25,900
designed to be of the people for heaven's sake we as the people because yeah too much trouble to build

849
01:34:25,900 --> 01:34:31,160
roads state to say let's get the government to do that uh we need a military to keep foreign

850
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:40,240
governments from you know coming and building their own whatever no um it's supposed to be a servant

851
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:49,220
now i was thinking about this just two days ago i don't know at what point the government changed from

852
01:34:49,220 --> 01:34:58,460
being a servant to a savior do you understand the difference a servant uh is a tool of the people

853
01:34:58,460 --> 01:35:03,180
go build the roads we're paying you a good salary if you don't do it we're going to vote your ass out

854
01:35:03,180 --> 01:35:10,260
and get someone who can do understand um and prior to 1913 and you figure out how to fund it because we

855
01:35:10,260 --> 01:35:17,560
ain't and that's what we've we we made sure we put in office people smart enough to fund themselves and

856
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:22,960
they did you know as long as they didn't take it from us we didn't care tax the chinese tax the

857
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:30,380
people you know who cares but no don't take it from us and the constitution that felt that strictly

858
01:35:30,380 --> 01:35:40,120
forbids taking it from us but in any case that servant at some point in time decided that well

859
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:46,640
listen i mean not only are we a servant but really we're big i mean we're nationwide and we're smart

860
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:53,080
because they put us in the office we must be smart i'm smarter than the people and therefore we must

861
01:35:53,080 --> 01:36:01,580
save them from from what well from themselves mostly uh i mean the this latest thing with coronavirus i

862
01:36:01,580 --> 01:36:10,240
mean listen um it used to be quarantine was for people who were sick put them in quarantine okay

863
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:16,040
let's hope we don't get sick now we put everybody in i don't know you might get sick therefore we're

864
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:22,480
putting you in quarantine for your own safety go in your house lock your door listen it used to be

865
01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:29,220
that they'd go their job should be hey there's a deadly virus out here be careful people do what

866
01:36:29,220 --> 01:36:34,280
you wish lock yourselves in if you wish or you don't it's your business but we're just informing you

867
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:41,900
no it's now we're going to save you from some deadly please god it's an airborne virus i don't know if

868
01:36:41,900 --> 01:36:51,540
anybody's noticed that yet um virus not an airborne bacteria a virus is a million times smaller than a

869
01:36:51,540 --> 01:36:59,440
bacteria if you uh sneeze the virus can be blown thousands of miles on the wind and look this up

870
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:07,900
people i did in every square meter of air that we breathe there are 800 million viruses of almost

871
01:37:07,900 --> 01:37:15,500
every species we live in a soup of airborne viruses there's no like polio which is a virus but can only

872
01:37:15,500 --> 01:37:24,740
be transmitted through contaminated water for example um or viruses that cause um pathogenic diarrhea and by

873
01:37:24,740 --> 01:37:31,920
the way uh two and a half million people a year die from pathogenic bacterial viruses two and a half

874
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:39,200
million i don't pay much attention the the john the part of this whole thing that is sad to me

875
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:45,420
is not what the government is doing because i feel like they're doing what they're going to do

876
01:37:45,420 --> 01:37:51,680
they want power and once you give them power they want to exercise that power the scary part about this

877
01:37:51,680 --> 01:38:01,480
whole thing is the people the people that are going with them on this crazy sort of in in insane power

878
01:38:01,480 --> 01:38:07,420
trip the folks the citizens that are yelling at the other citizens who are explaining you know we need

879
01:38:07,420 --> 01:38:12,940
to reopen the economy and then they're taking them out and trying to shame them that's the scary part

880
01:38:12,940 --> 01:38:19,740
the people that are going along with it and and and actually promoting it i i'm curious your thoughts on

881
01:38:19,740 --> 01:38:29,700
on that and how we got there so fast wow so fast i don't think it's so fast it's possible also

882
01:38:29,700 --> 01:38:41,380
the spanish would say step by step people um it starts with laziness then it uh it increases through the

883
01:38:41,380 --> 01:38:50,540
the power and energy of fear what is that fear well number one uh the fear that i might make a bad

884
01:38:50,540 --> 01:38:56,000
decision and therefore have to bear the consequences of my actions it's far better to let someone else

885
01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:02,520
make those decisions that know what they're doing and therefore i can just follow them but but the

886
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:08,340
fundamental problem people is none of us have really looked in the mirror anymore used to be i mean

887
01:39:08,340 --> 01:39:14,180
that's what we did wasn't much on television so we got to look at ourselves from time to time

888
01:39:14,180 --> 01:39:22,100
why does power corrupt no one asked that question and it's because we are people a a mixed bag we love

889
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:31,680
we're compassionate generous caring gentle people and at the very same time we are jealous and and

890
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:41,120
suspicious greedy and envious we're a mixed bag and if you give any human being power what aspect of

891
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:51,000
the that person uses it does love use power love flows or flowers from the human heart it doesn't need

892
01:39:51,000 --> 01:40:01,660
power it is its own does uh compassion and need power no no use for power what has

893
01:40:01,660 --> 01:40:08,820
need for power within that human being greed sure is hell needs power people doesn't it oh i forgot

894
01:40:08,820 --> 01:40:16,300
power i can be as greedy as i want and get whatever i want envy that needs power because uh if you got

895
01:40:16,300 --> 01:40:22,120
something i don't know if i got the power i can either take it away from you or build it myself um no

896
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:30,780
it's those negative uh non-life supporting aspects of the human entity that use power

897
01:40:30,780 --> 01:40:37,360
even person power over another is love going to use it no god doesn't even know how doesn't know how

898
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:48,980
no no uh anger uses it and hostility uses it and greed uses it so of course people go power

899
01:40:48,980 --> 01:40:56,440
corruption absolute power crops absolutely of course this is why now if we understood this in

900
01:40:56,440 --> 01:41:03,620
ourselves well we can easily see it in others but people don't look at themselves anymore

901
01:41:03,620 --> 01:41:13,980
where uh and i know you're libertarian um i think of myself as a libertarian as well uh what do you

902
01:41:13,980 --> 01:41:24,620
think the future might all this give birth to a robust libertarian party and candidate might all this sort

903
01:41:24,620 --> 01:41:33,500
the chaos may there be some good that comes out of this chaos well not according to the lessons that

904
01:41:33,500 --> 01:41:43,820
history gives us i mean uh in any democracy in any partisan political system multiple parties never

905
01:41:43,820 --> 01:41:53,240
increase they decrease from five to four to three to two and eventually to one and this is what's

906
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:57,500
happening in america we're going to end up in 10 years with one political party i don't care which

907
01:41:57,500 --> 01:42:06,020
does it matter does it matter the power is going to be equally as cruel just cruel to different parts

908
01:42:06,020 --> 01:42:12,100
of our society but the cruelty will be there no no i'm sorry i wish that was i wish i could give you

909
01:42:12,100 --> 01:42:18,940
hope in my mind that that would be possible but it's not never in the history of political systems

910
01:42:18,940 --> 01:42:28,160
have political parties ever increased in number ever now is america going to be that one rare for

911
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:33,320
example well i don't i don't know i mean i'm a statistician i mean there is a one chance in a

912
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:39,300
trillion now it's in it's interesting because uh earlier in our conversation you were talking about

913
01:42:39,300 --> 01:42:44,640
manufacturing and american automotive manufacturing sort of hanging on by a thread

914
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:56,480
and there used to be probably in 1940 or 1925 there were probably 150 american automotive manufacturers

915
01:42:56,480 --> 01:43:02,680
yes absolutely and some of them were just extraordinary chords and dusenberg of course

916
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:08,500
people don't know dusenberg is american right a lot of well it is absolutely and and i tell you what

917
01:43:08,500 --> 01:43:15,320
the the i think i actually had one the uh the greatest of of all i think is the auburn boat tail

918
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:22,740
racer i don't know if you've ever seen that car yes i i know that car and and and so there were all

919
01:43:22,740 --> 01:43:29,860
these manufacturers of automobiles and they made splendid automobiles many of them did some didn't

920
01:43:29,860 --> 01:43:38,820
but at some point going along the analogy of uh political parties they're just kept getting gobbled

921
01:43:38,820 --> 01:43:44,120
up and put under and now there's two or three and and they're not going to keep they're not it's not

922
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:48,300
going the other way it's not like mike no it will never go the other way because this is

923
01:43:48,300 --> 01:43:56,740
this is capitalism i'm sorry it's more than capitalism is uh take any specific industry see here's

924
01:43:56,740 --> 01:44:01,640
where car marks was totally messed up in the head no capital is going to collapse well no and it's not

925
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:08,340
at all but if you take any industry of course that industry will end up being one it means it's already

926
01:44:08,340 --> 01:44:16,020
happened many times and we break them up at&t uh whatever at&t used to be well um we had to break

927
01:44:16,020 --> 01:44:22,120
it up because there was only one phone company everybody else died um so of course there will be only

928
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:31,120
one car manufacturer the only one of everything but you know what he missed is the human uh capability

929
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:40,520
for creativity development and innovation so what happens is while the car companies are just cranking

930
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:47,060
along someone comes along with an absolutely new concept of cars i mean elon musk you're gonna be able

931
01:44:47,060 --> 01:44:54,840
to sell a four four wheel thing no it's not yeah you can call us an automobile but in entirely new

932
01:44:54,840 --> 01:45:02,320
concepts in terms of transportation um you'd look at uh ibm doesn't i'm sorry but doesn't that give

933
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:10,480
you some hope for the future the sort of elon musk's of the world yes absolutely it does but not

934
01:45:10,480 --> 01:45:15,000
politically so it's only a different animal here okay you're the one who bought up cars and i agree

935
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:21,780
fully i mean i bought up cars too um but yeah i agree fully and you agree that governments

936
01:45:21,780 --> 01:45:28,500
unfortunately don't work that way because let's look at the government of the u.s let's let's okay

937
01:45:28,500 --> 01:45:37,280
let's look at adding machines okay adding machines there were a bunch of companies in the 1940s who had

938
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:44,440
some truly sophisticated adding machines um and cash registers mechanical devices you push this and push that

939
01:45:44,440 --> 01:45:51,140
suddenly adds it up and the cash store opens and tells you what your change is um then along comes

940
01:45:51,140 --> 01:45:57,860
digital computing those companies are gone and in digital computing we started off with good god

941
01:45:57,860 --> 01:46:04,880
the mainframes i worked at three of them general electric uh univac uh and xerox and xerox as well

942
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:12,000
and xiemens when xiemens was manufacturing computers they're all over the place now mainframe suppliers

943
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:20,060
not very many people um and look at the uh the personal uh telephones we've got apple we've got

944
01:46:20,060 --> 01:46:26,280
samsung we've got google with the pixel a few others right that's all going to end up being one

945
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:33,420
uh which one but hopefully there will be new technologies that replace even that utility

946
01:46:33,420 --> 01:46:43,620
john do you believe that capitalism is a system or it's just what shall be if you leave people alone

947
01:46:43,620 --> 01:46:50,620
do they just does it become if you took a thousand people and put them on an island and just left them

948
01:46:50,620 --> 01:46:57,040
there and you came back in a thousand years would a form of capitalism be going on on that island

949
01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:03,600
no what do you think there would be a form there would be a form of government uh with one person

950
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:11,940
in charge uh and call them i don't care king emperor god king just like in all societies ever because

951
01:47:11,940 --> 01:47:18,540
it is always my friends government with the power of military because there is no government without

952
01:47:18,540 --> 01:47:25,020
military you understand this and why why did kings get to be kings they collected around them those that

953
01:47:25,020 --> 01:47:30,300
trusted them and were willing to fight for them and therefore they beat the shit out of anybody who

954
01:47:30,300 --> 01:47:39,500
didn't agree uh i'm sorry this is the nature it's not capitalism it's totalitarianism now we people

955
01:47:39,500 --> 01:47:46,620
go well totalitarianism is new bullshit what do you think the czar of russia was what do you think

956
01:47:46,620 --> 01:47:52,600
so do you think that do you think that's where this nation is heading

957
01:47:52,600 --> 01:48:01,060
yes totalitarianism good god it's written on the walls people it's written everywhere you look

958
01:48:01,060 --> 01:48:08,540
i mean did anybody bother for example in this massive 24-hour dash of congress when the coronavirus

959
01:48:08,540 --> 01:48:13,560
finally goes oh my god the world's coming to an end and they pass this two trillion dollar bill

960
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:21,660
didn't anybody bother to read that did you know that inside that bill are line items like

961
01:48:21,660 --> 01:48:29,160
the fbi uh in an emergency situation uh has the ability to arrest anyone without a court order

962
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:35,760
and without a judge's involvement and detain them they use the word indefinitely you understand that

963
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:43,020
means it could mean for life do you understand what fucking happened there people we became at that

964
01:48:43,020 --> 01:48:49,700
point a totalitarian government because all the executive branch has to do is go it's an emergency

965
01:48:49,700 --> 01:48:57,300
emergency and then direct the fbi to go and arrest all the enemies of the people please god see it's

966
01:48:57,300 --> 01:49:06,100
happening around you now do you happening with you uh i'm i'm sure you're not a fan of trump or

967
01:49:06,100 --> 01:49:15,640
or biden but uh is it a coin toss or do you care if you had a magic wand who would you rather be in power

968
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:21,900
i don't i do not it really it does not matter here's the problem people think that it matters who the

969
01:49:21,900 --> 01:49:30,200
president is well i beg to differ very strongly i mean let's look at uh history i mean you my friend

970
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:36,580
uh adam look old enough to have lived through at least about six seven eight elections presidential

971
01:49:36,580 --> 01:49:42,620
or more i have never counted but sure yeah makes sense all right let me ask you a question and

972
01:49:42,620 --> 01:49:52,080
everybody who's listening there's a single hair on your head wafted by that explosion of new power

973
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:58,300
no nothing in your life changed no and when you thought it would like with the obama administration

974
01:49:58,300 --> 01:50:03,680
and obamacare everybody in the know knew and they can be a difference because it's going to be

975
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:10,060
dismantled and it was please people we live in a system where presidents i think have zero power

976
01:50:10,060 --> 01:50:17,680
they have so many strings attached to them some of them extraordinarily powerful like the cia's

977
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:26,420
string um well john i've always said i used to say it which is if you'd locked yourself in a closet

978
01:50:26,420 --> 01:50:34,240
you never found out who was president whether it was you know mit romney or or or obama or whomever

979
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:38,640
hillary clinton and you just went about your life you wouldn't know you wouldn't be able to be

980
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:45,260
impossible to know it would be impossible so why do i care i don't and neither should you people

981
01:50:45,260 --> 01:50:53,140
what you should care about is changing the system do you realize people in america federal laws we have

982
01:50:53,140 --> 01:51:00,200
so many federal laws that the average person reading 24 hours a day seven days a week would take

983
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:08,620
600 years just to read them let alone comprehend them well figure out how to obey them should ever

984
01:51:08,620 --> 01:51:15,900
should everyone in america get a a gun in a yacht or or just a gun i mean where where are we at with

985
01:51:15,900 --> 01:51:21,600
gun ownership what are your thoughts on that before we get to that i think everybody knows where my

986
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:33,660
where i stand on gun ownership i i own more guns than god um no before we get to that before we get to

987
01:51:33,660 --> 01:51:40,480
that the question really is should we get the odds we get no the question really should be what should

988
01:51:40,480 --> 01:51:49,660
we do what should we do people um i don't know if anyone's ever read and ran seminal marvel at the

989
01:51:49,660 --> 01:51:54,760
shrugged yeah i don't know if you haven't let me just forget what it's about but atlas shrugged the

990
01:51:54,760 --> 01:52:01,020
title is all you need atlas is the gentleman who's the world was on his shoulder supported

991
01:52:01,020 --> 01:52:09,080
um the novel is a metaphor or actually that's a metaphor for the novel where the people shrugged

992
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:16,740
meaning do you understand that the power pyramid and all power is based on the pyramid there's simply

993
01:52:16,740 --> 01:52:24,160
no way for power to function otherwise ultimately at the very bottom comes on whose shoulders yours

994
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:29,900
and mine the people paying the taxes the people with no power the people that have no choice and

995
01:52:29,900 --> 01:52:39,480
the people who have no hope however if we no longer are willing to bear that burden everything collapses

996
01:52:39,480 --> 01:52:47,340
everything and if you doubt me please look at that look at the um uh violent revolutions i'm not i'm

997
01:52:47,340 --> 01:52:52,240
definitely not suggesting that absolutely not but look at the violent ones i mean good god almighty the

998
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:58,520
russian revolution by 1917 the czar of russia the most powerful man in the world with most powerful

999
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:05,500
remain and all it took was a few days of the people going we're not taking this anymore and with

1000
01:53:05,500 --> 01:53:15,680
pitchforks and uh plows and lit torches toppled most powerful regime in the world look at france i

1001
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:23,540
mean and here's another thing i mean leaders of countries eventually uh divorce themselves so far

1002
01:53:23,540 --> 01:53:29,700
from the reality of the people they are supposed to be working for i don't like these words governing

1003
01:53:29,700 --> 01:53:36,820
working for uh that in the french revolution uh there were riots in the street the queen goes

1004
01:53:36,820 --> 01:53:45,040
why are my people rioting and the advisor says well your majesty the we don't have any bread

1005
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,460
they're hungry so she goes

1006
01:53:47,460 --> 01:53:59,860
let them eat cake and make this a decree so they actually went out saying you may eat cake

1007
01:53:59,860 --> 01:54:06,900
that was the last straw right all right she was beheaded so please god people your power is the

1008
01:54:06,900 --> 01:54:15,040
power of indifference the power of not playing the game anymore what would happen if every single

1009
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:21,380
america just stayed home on election day if you do not think that would reverberate throughout

1010
01:54:21,380 --> 01:54:28,320
our government then you are sadly mistaken people we're sadly i don't have time for one more question

1011
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:35,000
i'm so sorry we're sorry no that's uh i've found this and i apologized i apologized for monopolizing

1012
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:43,280
this conversation i i'm 74 years old like old men tend to do this my apologies uh no uh i've i find it

1013
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:49,200
riveting and the reason uh we had you on is so you could monopolize uh the conversation so

1014
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:55,920
thank you for your time one more one more question uh adam well let's ask you about uh on a personal

1015
01:54:55,920 --> 01:55:03,560
note i know there's some film industry types thinking about uh telling your life story and zach efron i think

1016
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:08,620
has signed on and so on and so forth what what can you tell us about the story of your life

1017
01:55:08,620 --> 01:55:14,840
i i can tell you whatever about the story of my life but i i can't tell you anything about what

1018
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:22,240
the movie's going to say i'm not i'm not part of it not cooperating with it would you not like that to

1019
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:28,880
be done i don't care whether i like it or not it's going to happen i mean i am i'm one of those figures

1020
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:36,600
that uh uh if if uh shown in the proper light and i'm sure the proper light will be a villainous character

1021
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:42,940
of nefarious nature and the most despicable person on the planet but that doesn't bother me at least

1022
01:55:42,940 --> 01:55:53,260
um no no i well first of all johnny depp originally signed on um i was not happy about that i don't

1023
01:55:53,260 --> 01:56:02,040
think he could have played me um uh fortunate not fortunately the poor man uh unraveled as we all

1024
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:08,400
know from you know public uh images and things where they got into drugs or what and so that

1025
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:14,740
that didn't pan out uh i wanted morgan freeman quite frankly i just think you do a good job no

1026
01:56:14,740 --> 01:56:20,840
hey i'm serious about this see and so i i've the screenwriters um i actually i've been talking to

1027
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:26,920
the screenwriters they're decent people no one else will talk to me um and it did you know at one

1028
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:33,820
point i actually said i'm i'm shocked uh because you know they're they're funny folks uh uh that uh

1029
01:56:33,820 --> 01:56:40,800
you would choose johnny depp to play a black man um so just because i have had a skin condition since

1030
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:47,000
birth that has caused me to appear white does not give you the right uh to choose a white man

1031
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:56,300
no this is how clever these mofos are they actually sent me a link to of a um dna resource

1032
01:56:56,300 --> 01:57:05,380
site uh johnny depp uh three generations earlier has a black great great grandfather so i'm going

1033
01:57:05,380 --> 01:57:10,520
no shit guys this is how clever these guys but in any case but in all seriousness i'd prefer

1034
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:16,260
working for you i do have one one more legitimate question for you that i think you're what's that

1035
01:57:16,260 --> 01:57:22,900
uniquely qualified to answer i've talked to dr drew first we were talking about leaving the state

1036
01:57:22,900 --> 01:57:29,620
of california but now we're having discussions about leaving the country where give us

1037
01:57:29,620 --> 01:57:38,740
where would you move to what would be the what's the you've been everywhere you've seen all the jails

1038
01:57:38,740 --> 01:57:44,940
where where is the best country where would you live if you didn't have the yacht if you and you

1039
01:57:44,940 --> 01:57:50,000
weren't wanted by anyone and i'm not by the way i'm i'm not on the yacht the the yacht was taken

1040
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:55,300
from us um listen i can't answer that because it would tell you where i might be but i'll give my

1041
01:57:55,300 --> 01:58:02,780
second my second best okay of course i'll definitely wherever i am will be in the number one it's right

1042
01:58:02,780 --> 01:58:10,420
right um okay yeah well it depends on on on on what sort of lifestyle you want if you'd like utter

1043
01:58:10,420 --> 01:58:19,780
absolute freedom in in the paradise i would choose bali bali bali absolutely if that's a little bit too

1044
01:58:19,780 --> 01:58:28,380
freaky for you i mean it is a different place right and it's not exactly uh america um i said you know

1045
01:58:28,380 --> 01:58:34,920
people people complain about uh the violence in brazil but my god you've got violence in america now

1046
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:45,520
i i would move to ipanema in brazil on the the lower atlantic coast i mean i lived there for a year

1047
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:52,900
um while working for booze allen and hamilton yes i work for the same country that the company that

1048
01:58:52,900 --> 01:59:01,600
edwardson did um maybe that's why we're so much alike um but yeah uh whoa i mean first of all a lot

1049
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:10,120
a lot a lot more upscale a lot more facilities um valley and brazil and uh last question should

1050
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:11,840
weinstein have fled

1051
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:21,920
yes i think everybody should have fled that did not i'm so sorry but people go you're a coward mac if

1052
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:28,100
you want to stand up for what i'm going to face charges for refusing to pay taxes which i have made

1053
01:59:28,100 --> 01:59:35,820
public for 11 freaking years knowing i will never see the light of day simply because uh the american

1054
01:59:35,820 --> 01:59:46,860
government wants me to shut up so no um people if you believe that you are being unjustly prosecuted

1055
01:59:46,860 --> 01:59:55,340
then escaping leaving whatever you want to call it is is your right i'm sorry it's simply your right

1056
01:59:55,340 --> 02:00:00,780
and i'm sorry i must go now my apologies i will i hope we can talk again soon this has been

1057
02:00:00,780 --> 02:00:07,840
enlightening yeah and as a matter of fact adam i do have a list of people who i'm going to talk to

1058
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:12,840
again maybe one out of 25 people i would be happy to talk to you again and i'm sorry that i had to cut

1059
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:17,980
this short thank you and i'm flattered that you put me on that short list and uh the twitter okay

1060
02:00:17,980 --> 02:00:26,260
and janice is right here yes uh give her my love uh at official mcafee is uh the twitter handle if

1061
02:00:26,260 --> 02:00:31,600
you'd like to uh communicate that's correct john thank you very much for your time sir and thank

1062
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:36,680
you adam for yours i appreciate it appreciate it all right so until next time this is adam carolla

1063
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:42,760
for john mcafee and uh ball brian and gina grad say it mahalo