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yeah let me go ahead and all right everyone hold on one second i'm gonna go ahead and pull the link

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and put it on twitter and if you guys want to share this this would be absolutely amazing so

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let me get that link going i'm gonna tweet it out um all right we are live now all right we are

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officially live so i'm gonna get off it um well actually i'm gonna let me pull this and i'm gonna

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post it in the chat john and you're in the ghost chat as well so we're gonna put it in there

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put it in my chat put it into the ghost chat all right are live we're live all right we are live

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so i actually need to keep this open for to talk to see about getting more oh wrong one okay so

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there's that there's this one okay not now all right you guys we're gonna go ahead and get start

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oh you know what yeah there's gonna be a couple of those that pop up okay john first and foremost

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thank you so much for coming on my show today i am so excited to talk to you um you are just you

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you are a very you are forced to be reckoned with um in the space most definitely well thank you

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but before we get started i'd like to give a shout out to uh first and foremost my russian uh friends

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and for my spanish-speaking friends please say nothing to anybody however in america it's legal

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it's true for my chinese-speaking friends those of you who speak uh cantonese especially is

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no and if you don't speak one of those four languages then uh you damn well better within

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about a year because i am afraid english is not going to be the number one language forever

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and thank you very much well you know what i i don't know if i agree with that or not but that is

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okay that is that is okay so let's go ahead oh what do you first off what are you drinking

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oh fuck me all right what i what do you got always drink um these i've emptied already today this i'm

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working on so uh this is a jameson uh irish whiskey i am in fact irish and therefore legally i'm not uh

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i'm not allowed to drink anything else okay well that makes sense so first and foremost i've already

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told you thank you for coming on but you guys this is the o show my name is crypto wendy oh i am

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with john mcaffee on today's show i'm going to be doing an ama with john talking about his project

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ghost um this is not sponsored i'm also going to be asking a few tough questions um if you guys

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i don't tolerate that type of stuff i have no patience for it um i actually want to talk to john

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and learn more a little bit more about the project and then i've got some other questions

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for him as well because he's been in the space for such a long time and he's been such a big part

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of tech i want to say that probably 90 percent of you have had mcafee virus removal on your computer

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at one point if not your computer probably your parents so this is an absolute honor to have you on

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so all right so do you want to go ahead and give us a short summary of ghost in the project

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yeah okay so listen i believe fully that uh cryptocurrency not bitcoin bitcoin is a different

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animal but cryptocurrency the field that uh was opened up by the uh the creators of bitcoin

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um is the first opportunity in i think 100 years uh for the people to own their own world changing

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technology and if you think cryptocurrency and blockchain is not world changing then

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go back and and relearn this it is um the the problem that we're facing in cryptocurrency is

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the governments are attempting all over the world certainly america china has already done so

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to take it over for themselves every every government will eventually have their own

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cryptocurrency the america is working on the big crypto dollar chinese is already the u.s digital

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dollar it is coming the u.s digital it's coming and so when it comes i i fear the following that the

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uh the currencies that have been developed by the people through open source and i have never seen god

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bless all of you a technology with more open source in it almost everyone uh that builds a blockchain

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that builds a facility a privacy coin a distributed exchange uh does so uh through completely open

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uh auditable and available source meaning what it belongs to all of us to understand that everything

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that i have done with ghost um is open source and will continue to be uh the problem that we have is

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is we have facilities like privacy coins and more narrow which by the way is the certainly the most widely

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used uh privacy coin on the planet um the problem uh with monero is eventually if you want to cash out

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into well i don't know fiat or exchange for a minute for uh ethereum or bitcoin or dai well then you screw

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people because you have to do so on a centralized exchange like finance or what have you which already

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are under the thumb of governments why hashtag cancel coinbase

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so so um so that's the problem yes absolutely if you if you do nothing in your life except monero

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you're perfectly safe if you can get paid and they can buy everything from shoes to

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proof vest to to real estate which you can by the way um you're okay but as soon as you got to change

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we're fucked we're fucked um so with ghost what have you done well first of all ghost is a privacy coin

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and and on the 22nd of this month our main net goes live and uh our wheel white paper i regret please

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for deceiving people early on about our uh our fork of yet uh an ancient privacy coin no we have our own

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blockchain and the reason i did that is because ghost is not just a privacy coin um it's a privacy coin

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with its own uh distributed decentralized exchange called the ghost exchange coming up next month

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and uh with the world's first completely um anonymous and private uh smartphone i had to do that

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and by the way it's called the ghost uh uh um phone system uh we operate in 35 countries now

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uh and we work using um e-sims if you don't want an e-sim is very simple you don't want a sim card

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is you buy a phone with at&t you go to at&t they insert the card and you go home and a few hours

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later you're you're fine now e-sims are totally different this is data only you can download an e-sim

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right from from the web from anywhere get an email if you like uh take your phone scan it and you're up

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and running on the phone system now unfortunately the e-sims are new uh they currently only work with

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the samsung s20 the samsung flip uh the phone phone um google's pixel the latest iphone anything

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that's been uh put out in the past six months will support e-sims what does the ghost phone system do

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well we have a a sim card and uh two weeks ago we we gave out 20 of these cards uh in our uh you know

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one of our chat rooms and and everywhere from germany to america to france to spain they work

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perfectly fine we currently support 35 countries and we'll be moving to many more before the year is

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out um what does it do well with our e-sim and you can keep your your your regular sim in if you choose

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um but if you want to at any time make yourself a knowledge i mean completely uh so that as soon as

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you turn the phone on and it logs into the phone network wherever you are like in america it works

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all over america um you have phone service but you don't have a name and you don't have a location

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which is the most important and people this is how you track do you understand that that's actually a

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real problem is is being able to track people with the phones and what a lot of people don't realize

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most of us are in crypto because we want we do value our privacy but i don't think a lot of us

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truly understand how to really protect ourselves and to actually be private and a lot of people call

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bitcoin private but really at the end of the day the transaction is transparent on the on the block

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explorer so you can pull up any address and you can see that i sent you a bitcoin or whatnot and that

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is a problem and i'll tell you why that's a problem for me it is a problem as a mother a mother of a

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three-year-old little girl if i am using bitcoin to spend at my local target and i want to go ahead

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let's say i want to go buy something at target and i'm with my daughter i take my daughter to target with

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me somebody that wants to stalk me can easily see oh this is where it was sent and they can pull all

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that information up and track it they're savvy enough forever that's a problem yeah forever exactly so

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that is a problem with all right if i sent you ten dollars in bitcoin you send me forever after i can

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look inside your wallet and say good lord you have much more money than i thought exactly um do you

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understand same thing with ethereum and many others so so no there is no privacy to most of the

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cryptocurrencies uh certainly none of the uh none of the uh ethereum based coins uh erc 22 erc 1440

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none of them have privacy which is okay if if privacy is not your concern uh but it sure is a

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concern online me too and and for those of you who do not know much about my life my janice and i have

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been in hiding uh for the past year um and the only reason we have not been arrested by the u.s

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government for unspecified crimes against america um is because no one can find us no we can't have

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phones we haven't had phones for over a year it's kind of a problem when we're out together and we

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get separated it's kind of panicking when you can't call when you can't go get your girl can't go get

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your girl i mean seriously and and this is however we can't live any other way but when when my ghost

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phone comes out on september 15th well we can be anywhere and no one will be able to locate us so

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location is the key people it is the key and um so the telephone we also have the ghost exchange

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which is a completely decentralized distributed exchange that we require nothing okay when you

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log on to the ghost exchange we don't require name address telephone number ip nothing documents you're

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just a completely anonymous person using the exchange for an anonymous transaction

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and people that this you know here's the issue all right so the sec is is has joined the irs and

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to locate me because um they insist that um for example the mcafee decks has been out for almost

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five months in beta and the ghost exchange is based on what we've learned from the mcafee decks

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only it's much much less chaotic than the mcafee decks they insist that that uh i had to put

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no your customer and anti-money laundering um protections in it well jesus people i am not a

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fucking policeman i'm not excuse my language no that's fine you're more than welcome to to speak

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like that on this show but one thing one thing i do want to butt in and say is that a lot of on my

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show i do i do i have a legal series where i talk about the different laws and regulations

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and how hard it is to get you know to actually um to create a functioning exchange i have experts that

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come on to kind of discuss this in detail and kyc is very it's very expensive for exchanges to

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implement kyc and to carry them out and what a lot of people don't understand is every single

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territory you are in you have to be certified you have to get approved it it's expensive and some of

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these exchanges are sending your data to the local governments and yes well they have to by law

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exactly yes but the thing that's the thing that's frustrating about it is that you may not be doing

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something illegal and they can still send your data to the u.s government and then you're on a radar or

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on some list and that's a problem that is a problem well it's certainly one for me and that's why

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i'm in hiding with janice which is why i don't give a shit excuse me whether they complain or not

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now so the sec said criminals will be the people to use this well of course people of course criminals

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will use it criminals need privacy more than anybody but let me ask you something who when

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the telephone first came out in america who developed the first nationwide phone system the mob

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the mafia why because they could coordinate nationwide criminal activities when the eight cylinder

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engine came out in 1932 who bought the cars first bank robbers for heaven's sake because they could

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rob a bank and and thumb their noses up at the police as they escape town and the when the eight cylinder

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automobile came out bank robberies increased tenfold in america so what people so what does that mean

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no let's not make fast cars because criminals no criminals will always use the best technology

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sorry and they'll always be around criminals will always be around yes we can't get rid of crime

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and i can't prevent it by putting kyc and aml in my fucking products people i'm not a policeman you

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want to pay me to be a cop maybe i'll think about it but maybe i don't want the job i am an entrepreneur

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a creator or a developer i am not a cop and so that's my reply to the sec that do not appease

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it very much in any case so they're still after me all right so let's get into some some questions so

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one of the things that i like um well actually quick question about the exchange i know when using

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a dex you basically you plug your ledger in and then you're able to transfer your coins on and you

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have control of your keys well is the ghost exchange does that work exactly the same because

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i haven't used it yet and i'm going to use it probably this weekend well it's a peer-to-peer exchange i

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mean you've just like a regular other decks there's nothing like any other decks any so just like

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any other uh centralized exchange really i mean you've got your your buy and sell orders you've got

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your um makers and takers i mean it's just it's all there the only difference is you don't have to

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send us proof of your identity to give us your driver's license a copy of your passport or your bank

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no we don't give a shit who you are come through and start trading the great the great thing about

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dexes what i really i really think that it bought embodies the whole point of cryptocurrency and

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bitcoin is that there are no borders people are not judged by race people are not you're not judged

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by who you are everybody is considered equal because there's no there's no identity you're not

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identified as john mcafee and i'm not identified as windy and this person isn't identified by race or

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gender it's just everybody that's on the exchange you're on the exchange and you're all

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treated the same and that's it and why should you be identified people do you understand that if

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if you do not have privacy of your financial transactions uh where you make your money and

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how you spend it then you have no privacy exactly if you have no privacy of finance then you're a slave

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you're a slave to those who control your finances anything people don't control your finances then please

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god uh who is it that takes uh 30 percent of your earnings in america it wants the government

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uh who is it that monitors your uh transmission of money to a friend in london or or iran which you

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can't even do from america now i mean please god it's it's a system that requires permission

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what is cryptocurrency it is permissionless people permission do you understand the power

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of a permissionless system you don't need my permission to use the mac if you don't listen

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i can't control it anyway in fact my reply to the sec was uh that i had to put uh those features in

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i wish i could but unfortunately i stupidly put the logic on uh the blockchains as smart contracts

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i wasn't thinking i'm so stupid i'm an old man i should have thought about it no uh you don't need

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permission from me or anyone and neither should you people please this is the most fundamental of

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all freedoms please think about it john you're you were i love listening listening to you talk

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because you're laying out facts and i i think it's awesome so first question from the mcfee ama this is

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from the ghost community all these questions are going to be from the ghost community um first and

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first and foremost i want to say i popped in the ghost chat last night and it is abso-fucking-lutely

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amazing everybody's in there they're posting memes they're having a good time and that's the type

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of time that i like to have i one of the one of the things i love about crypto is that we do a lot

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of shit posting a lot of fun posting we have fun and it's part of life you know we troll we make fun

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but it's all it's all in good fun and the ghost community you guys are lit you guys are awesome so

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this question is from grizzly business hey hey jade here just wondering what's the gas motivation that

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helps you keep moving forward out of these out of all these years from antivirus to now

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cryptocurrency always helping giving advice to this to the youth gender the younger generation

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and on plus now adding this new project ghost which obviously will help people achieve their

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privacy so what is i guess what is just your motivation for um for just not being retired

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and being out there and keep and to keep creating things especially things that are needed

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well i mean you're not gonna like my answer wendy i'm sorry but it's um young women and i'll be

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frank with you my my wife janice is uh she's 37 i'm 74 half my age um why and she tells me if you die

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on me i will cut your bones off and she means it so good woman good woman yeah no i i that's that's

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partially a joke but young people keep you in line but i love young people and so great young

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women just people youth um yeah i would rather hang out with a group of 35 year olds than a group of

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65 year olds any day it's in all seriousness because youth has well

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i think two of the most important things in the world energy and humor i agree you look at you look

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at a group of 35 year olds in a restaurant and a group of 65 year olds and you find out which of them

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are laughing the most what's the 35 year olds for heaven's sake um so i don't know and the next thing

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is i just love life i love everything about it i'm 74 and if i look out this window i might be able to

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see my exit door approaching on the horizon and yet every day people i'm happier than the day before

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and here's the real secret let's drop all the jokes the real secret is i have done only

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only what i have loved nothing else when i had a job that suddenly i i no longer loved i i walked out

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i didn't even bother to walk into my boss's office and quit i would call later i'm not coming back in

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when i've um i've been married five times um when um when the woman i married i woke up and not the same

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woman i i just packed my bags and left if the country i was living in uh turned ugly i moved to another

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country i've lived in 11 different countries and actually been arrested in every moment too as a

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matter of fact but nevertheless that's it that's an achievement a round of applause

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so no do what you love and nothing else people that's the secret i you know i can respect that

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i get behind that i have a three-year-old daughter and probably the best time of my life is spending with

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her and laughing with her just being silly playing air guitar with her singing with her my three-year-old

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my three-year-old loves she loves willie nelson she loves willie nelson and ray price

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absolutely loves outlaw country and we just we we sing and we just have a good time together and you

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surround yourself with good people people that give you energy so i can get behind that this morning

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let me give you an example so janice and i go out to eat every day why because we're too damn lazy to

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cope for ourselves so we went out for breakfast and and um there was a song on on the speakers on

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local radio playing uh the rolling stones give me shelter oh i love that one love that right so do i

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and the waitress was just standing you know like waitresses do does anybody need me but while she

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was doing it she was fucking dancing i mean yes real now actually i didn't get much sleep last night

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the air conditioning was broken and it was hot so i was kind of dragging but as soon as i saw that the

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biggest smile came across my face because someone else was dancing to life people and dancing

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the uh the greatest of all therapies next question from janos farrakas i think john you achieved

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everything in life why ghost and why now which i think you kind of answered that but well yeah and

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why now it's because because i have achieved uh everything personally and a person could want

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more money than god or listen by the way if you think money makes you happy please god it does not

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folks i would be searching anything uh or chasing after anything of money the chase after the opposite

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sex i promise you you'll be happier but um um um why now

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because i have lived 74 years and i experienced america in the 1950s when it was truly a free

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fucking country now you might go well it wasn't free for blacks no no it's not free for blacks now

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if you think it is and wake the fuck up people uh it had problems but everybody every single

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person black black white indifferent had the opportunity to be become and experience anything

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i mean do you know what happened in 1960 if the government said all right everybody there's a virus

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go home we would have stormed city hall burned it down thrown everybody out and had an impromptu

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god damn election people but today what what did you do you went home and locked your doors

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you imprisoned yourself why because you allowed the government to tell you what to do well fuck me i'm an

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adult we don't need a government to tell us what to do people we at the age of 21 if your parents

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didn't say don't call me for advice anymore mofo i'm happy you're leaving home i've loved you

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now we're renting out your bedroom no that's what life really should be people but that's neither here

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nor there but what i see

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it breaks my heart and without freedom people without freedom you are nothing

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and without financial freedom there are no other freedoms you must understand this please

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see this without the fiat dollar the pound the yen the euro you can't pay rent you can't send your

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kids to school your daughter your daughter wendy what would you do without dollars um no without

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financial freedom you are simply a slave of course no definitely to the system that owns the

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currency that you use and that's why that's why because i work in the space i do marketing in the

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space i have my own business in the space and when i have clients and i do business development too when

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i have clients i have them pay me in crypto and that's that yeah well listen i i can't have a bank

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account i haven't had one for so everything i do when he is with crypto i'm sorry to laugh about it so

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no and so why because you need it people you need it i mean monair was fantastic until china shut down

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two and a half years ago i was there i was i was keynoting the chinese national security conference

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in beijing when china shut down every exchange in china how did they do it well fuck me it's a

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decentralized exchange has an address it's got employees it's got no how how silly and or how

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easy is that it's trivial and so the decentralized exchange ghost which is coming up is an absolute

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necessity i agree to maintain any sense of of privacy people and anonymity and freedom so this is why i'm

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doing it well don't i mean don't get me wrong i think when crypto is still very complicated to

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understand and i think most of general population um tech scares them crypto and bitcoin is essentially

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based on math and a lot of people are not into math because it's hard it's complex so don't get

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me wrong i think some of these centralized exchanges and initially to onboard people on is great but i am

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a firm believer that we need dexes especially for people that value their privacy because dexes embody

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the whole point of bitcoin the whole thing the ethos that's what it stands for is privacy and to

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to be decentralized and to have control of your own money because if you have your money on a

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centralized exchange it's still not your money not your keys not your coins as cringy as that sounds

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next question yes okay next question hi john is it is it true the actor starring as yourself in the

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upcoming film being made about you has been able to take has been able to handle the drugs you take

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first of all i'm not starring in that film listen okay it's gone through three actors now the first

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was johnny depp and i threatened lawsuits i love johnny depp i love johnny depp but johnny depp is a

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babe okay and i think every man and woman is is i but i just i just i i couldn't see him playing

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here we could not not that i have any control over this by the way but no he signed on uh fuck me 18

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months ago um but i threatened lawsuits and threatened non-cooperation um and then um

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michael keaton but for some reason he dropped out now it's zach efron and that motherfucker i mean

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he's a nice guy he can't fucking blame me that young idiot i like him nice guy um so no i've got

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no control and i'm certainly not playing myself it's too much fucking hard work and it would be well i

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think you would be great at it you could do a lot of impromptu stuff maybe i don't know but in any

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case i'm not i'm not acting in it neither am i doing a cameo uh i've got no controller but zach

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efron is starring it's coming out in uh 2021 in the spring oh all right next question do you like

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telsa tesla cyber trucks listen you know i like everything that tesla does um you know i've never

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met elon musk we communicate uh infrequently over twitter uh he's sometimes you know commented on

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some of my posts and things but i listen i don't give a shit what anybody thinks about elon we need

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people like elon do you understand what he has done i don't know if you saw the first year or so ago

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two rockets coming back to earth landing with precision on these pads you understand that

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america china and russia have been trying 75 years to do this unsuccessfully now you tell me we don't

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need this man and you know i'm not trying to i'm not saying he's a good man bad man whatever i don't

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know him god damn it we need him people that's all i'm saying i agree with you there i definitely do

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next question do does ghost as ghost as privacy coins have does ghost privacy coins have concerns

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about money laundering and how to prevent it or do you not care i don't care i think i answered that

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but maybe i didn't but listen yes criminals will use ghost coin of course they will like like criminals

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used uh used the telephone when it first came out to organize nationwide criminal activities and

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bank robbers used eight cylinder automobiles in 1932 to escape police making bank robberies 10 times as

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much as before does that mean we shouldn't make fast automobiles with telephones or privacy coins no

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to me it's got criminals use it damn we did something right because if criminals can use it so can

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you what are criminals using it for privacy and anonymity well if all of us have the right to privacy

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and anonymity then i'm sorry how in the hell can you prevent criminals from having that same thing

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we can't stop crying people i mean good god almighty if there are any christians among you and in the

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bible and the new testament jesus himself says that you know when when uh mary is anointing his feet with

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expensive oils and said you could have saved so many poor because the poor will always

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be with us well so will criminals so will every negative aspect of this world good god i wish we

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could give them mosquitoes and i wouldn't have any nice but i'm i'm deathly allergic to mosquitoes so i'm

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i think i think for 2020 we should cancel mosquitoes that should be next well you know listen i've tried

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everything i think the best thing is that i just write signs saying that once it gets loud put it

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right outside the window i agree all right next next question what's the crypto community going to do

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for fun and entertainment once you finally kick the bucket old man do you have a succession plan in place

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and are you training someone that has a wit balls and is that damn funny well first of all i'd like to

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say uh fuck you very much a young person whoever wrote that um um i don't know i'm not training

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anybody please god no first of all my wife chance who is the uh typical um autocratic black wife i hate

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to be i'm not trying to be racist but i want to tell you marry a black woman the home is hers i mean

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you're a fucking guest i'm just saying right she has forbid me uh to get the bucket and let me tell

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you uh she scares me so i'll be around as as long as i can god bless janice because she's she keeps

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she no she she keeps you young she keeps you on your toes she keeps you young and i can respect that

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i can respect that and i i think you guys are just the most together so god bless you janice if you

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happen to watch this next question can you tell us how many girlfriends did you have in your life

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maybe stupid but i'm curious guys i think that i don't think he knows i think that it's probably

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i really don't have a clue i don't i really yeah what's a girlfriend mean i mean you're talking about

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the women that i might have slept with i'm 74 thousands obviously uh i have lived with more women

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like i'll be married five times i have uh 47 children that's all i'm saying well you it sounds

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like you have a very impressive body count so congratulations sir

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i love that body count it's it cracks me up i do it i do a um a wednesday a wednesday night

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podcast with hotel jesus and we talk about we talk about relationships and we talked about that term

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body count i says i don't like that term and he said why don't you like that term i said it just

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sounds gross and he's like so we we talk and you you got to check us out it's wednesday night at 6 30

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p.m pst we just we go back and forth i have never heard that term i think it's it's perfect let's face

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it yeah we we talk about some funny stuff hotep and i we don't always agree on everything but we

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we we have a good time together so we'll be we'll we'll be doing next wednesday all right so next

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question is this project going to be open sourced which i think it is open source you answered that

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will it accept general contributions to the code base of course done it's definitely everything

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i do is open source so why why bother listen this is the beauty people of of uh the blockchain and

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and especially cryptocurrency almost everything in it is open source people which means who does it

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belong to the people everybody the people now what what could be a a greater gift to the world that an

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entire technology an entire technology supported by everyone capable of doing so and presented to whom

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everyone to understand what we have which is why it is so important to me you do not succumb to

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governments agencies and powers that try to take this for themselves because here's what's going to

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happen and i promise you people i promise you soon america is going to say monero is now an illegal

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currency and they'll do the same thing with ghosts in every privacy coin i would like you when this

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happens to understand the phone i don't know if anybody out there has ever smoked weed i mean i don't

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know maybe one two of you um if you have for 75 years in america in some states i mean i was arrested in

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tennessee in tennessee in 1973 in charge of possession of a dangerous fucking narcotic for having less

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than an ounce of weed 30 years in prison i was facing got a good lawyer got off but um did it stop you

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from smoking weed why did it not because you saw it as an unjust and unenforceable law in most cases

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what you do in the privacy of your fucking home people is you and only you provided you're doing

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it with willing participants or by yourself and trading cryptocurrency with a privacy coin is

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definitely something you do in the privacy of your fucking home so no if you succumb you go oh fuck i

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gotta give up crypto then you have given up your last opportunity your last fucking opportunity for

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freedom people please god hear me and understand me and i apologize for getting serious no it's

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important and you guys make sure you guys make sure you guys stand strong and tall and hold on to your

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balls okay do not get do not give your balls to the government yes and let me tell you and then this

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goes for women as well as men because hold on to the janice speaking janice here she comes talking about

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balls lady balls right here i mean she puts them on the table to bring up the mind

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we're happy that janice is here because we talked a lot we said happy that you're here baby say hi to

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everybody hi everybody hey janice thank you for we did thank you for stopping in and thank you for

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keeping john mcafee alive he is a national he is a national treasure and we will protect him at all

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fucking costs all fucking costs all right um so the next question is this actually relates to the um

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to the e-sim and to the phone that you were talking about so they said is there any schedule

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for explaining the e-sim services to other countries or expand i'm sorry is there any schedule for

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expanding expanding okay okay well currently we support uh 35 countries and we're in beta test now

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we're not going live until september when we go live i'm sorry it'll only be 35 countries but it's

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going to be most of it certainly all of europe uh well all of east all of western europe the united

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states canada mexico russia except china except china we unfortunately i do not think we'll ever

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uh be able to be supported in china oh no no who is going to be because they've got their own they've

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got their own show they're running they don't care i'm sorry guys if you travel to china then

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figure it out somehow uh and likewise in countries like north korea etc etc however um by the end of

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the year we will have 106 countries and right now that with the 35 for most people where you're going

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to be traveling we will support you all right so i have so that's those are some questions and then

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i've got someone sent me um someone some of the ghost team they sent me some more but i have a

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question this may be a tough question but i have to i have to ask it um because it's important for me

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to be um unbiased and showcase transparency on my channel there's been a lot of fud regarding ghost a

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lot of people are calling the project a scam they're saying that the white paper was copied all types of

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stuff so what do you have i i gotta ask so what do you what do you have of course well yeah absolutely

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you know the first white paper we put out a month ago keep in mind ghost is not just a privacy

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going on people it's going to change the white paper is going to change well it has changed we put

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out the new one and the real one four days ago i think five days ago um i we could not say the truth

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because listen the ghost phone is a radical new technology that i don't think anybody thought

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about in fact i think uh the people who go e-sims there's a great idea and they implemented it

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well they they never thought of people like me exactly oh and e-sim well fuck me thank you people

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um so yeah it was the white paper was copied no question i'm 90 right um nevertheless um it got our

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our our chat rooms going and our our real white papers we're not a fork of anything people please

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god do you think john mackley's going to fork something no if i'm coming out with something

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it's going to be brand new and it is it's a brand new blockchain a brand new technology with features

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if you read the real white paper please god look at it just came out i got a ghost by mcafee.com it's

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right there that you've never fucking dreamed of in crypto um i apologize for the deception however

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everything that we said would be in there is still in there people so we did not cheat you

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we merely

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listen i i live in a world of what's called um disinformation and misdirection why that's

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anyway janice and i can survive we're on the fucking run we just got out of jail uh four

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fucking days in the dominican republic when they're trying to send us back to america because

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the cia demands it um we've gotten uh four days earlier before we got arrested we were thrown

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out of cuba cuban government grabbed us and said to mr mcafee um um the united states government

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has unofficially because there's no official channel uh demanded that we return you to america

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and by the way james will verify this two days before we were called in america put his fucking

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warships offshore saying give us mr mcafee and we'll go away cuba god bless you fuckers in cuba

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the general talking to james i think he even collected us at our yacht and hauled us into a military base

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that the general said however we are disinclined to do so but mr mcafee you need to understand that

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you are now a real problem for us we're giving you uh 72 hours to get out of cuba and never returned

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which we did four and a half days at sea we pulled into the dominican republic they arrested us before

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we got the fucking boat jesus on the boat we were surrounded by special forces from the internal

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what do they want you have to go back to america unfortunately the american republic does have a

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legal system in a supreme court and so i managed with the help of two lawyers to

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to get us sent to england instead i have a british passport plan there's like lots of passports

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who doesn't need to stay in age in any case um and and we went underground uh from that point did

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we not yes yes we did and so um so in any case i've i've actually lost the thread because now i'm so

384
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pissed off hey well let's well let's reach of america let's bring it back in let's bring it back in

385
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so you're saying that the project is not a scam at all and people just need to calm down oh please god

386
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people please god i mean if it's a scam first of all it's open source look at the goddamn source

387
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it was coming out in in three days you tell me it's a scam you tell me it is not the tightest most

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incredible that you've seen in a long time and it's not not a copy of anything yes i'm sorry

389
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disinformation is necessary in my life i wish it wasn't number one i do technological things that are

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so extreme i cannot allow potential competitors to know about it in advance i mean i can't put out

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a wipe everything oh you're going to be connecting up with this telephone shit no not until the very

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last minute we're coming up in production in september so my apologies people i had to ask the question

393
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because i told um the community that i was going to ask a tough question and i believe that was

394
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no that is it's a tough question most people wouldn't ask uh mr john macafe mr john fucking

395
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,960
mcafee no no no no no that's not a tough question a tough question would be did you really eat those

396
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children in cincinnati well that would be a tough question all right so next question um this is from

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this is from the ghost um community ama and john's twitter he said he could fly planes is he a licensed

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pilot or did he learn from the cartels no i did not learn from i am in fact a licensed pilot i'm

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actually a sport pilot and i fly listen i invented a sport called aero trekking look it up and look at

400
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some of the videos um and i invented a one of the largest sport flying clouds called um the sky gypsies

401
00:44:53,220 --> 00:45:00,620
when i had a flying school in rodeo mexico but i lost my i lost my uh

402
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:07,780
my 22 year old nephew in a flying accident and he was like a son to me he had he had firstly lived

403
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with me since he was 12 years old and um i shut down the school after that i mean i still fly

404
00:45:16,420 --> 00:45:22,780
and one of the greatest sport pilots you'll ever fly with and most people who fly with me go

405
00:45:22,780 --> 00:45:31,040
take me back now um but yes no i i that's why my license is not like to take no no no it's not

406
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but you look it up uh the faa side john mcafee uh i first got my license in 1984

407
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okay well i my condolences for your loss my next question to you um is from the ghost chat are you

408
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going to integrate a fiat gateway so people can buy ghost directly without first converting it to

409
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bitcoin oh absolutely and that's going to be coming live as soon as the exchange comes live

410
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also we're going to have a peer-to-peer fiat um sort of an automated um um local bitcoin.com only

411
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a lot more sophisticated yes we are now again it's it's keep in mind this is not using your bank

412
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accounts people uh you can in fact you can buy ghost uh now with a credit card up to 250 dollars i

413
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think for transaction unfortunately um but yes we're going to have the definitely a fiat exchange

414
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otherwise there's the problem with with decentralized exchanges isn't it you can change anything for

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anything unless right anything for anything um you can't exchange more narrow on a decentralized

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00:46:42,820 --> 00:46:47,940
exchange unfortunately otherwise i wouldn't have built ghost but i i mean seriously monero i've

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already got one of the best or the best privacy coins in the fucking world and they will never

418
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crack it i promise you but you can't use it on a decentralized exchange and on a centralized exchange

419
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:05,700
you're fine up until the point you need to cash out or exchange and then you fuck people that's the

420
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:12,400
problem next question this was a good one when and how did you meet josh from switch how come that

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you started to grow together on switch and then the ghost project how did he convince you and you

422
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convinced him to bring awareness to this ecosystem um together um uh yeah so basically how'd you meet

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josh and what inspired you guys to start um ghost and then also to will you keep will you keep the

424
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advisory role with ghost i mean here's the issue josh i don't know i'm sure josh is

425
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listening and by the way josh i hope you're not still living uh in your car every time i every time

426
00:47:46,580 --> 00:47:53,560
i talk to josh uh on skype or whatever he's sitting in his car and i worry but that's a different point i

427
00:47:53,560 --> 00:48:00,380
think if i remember josh if i remember josh a couple years ago you in fact came to the bahamas when

428
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on my boat i probably just for a fucking junket you probably told your wife it was business but

429
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um was that the first time i'm not entirely sure uh very uh handsome java handsome perhaps but

430
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:26,100
long hair and very uh pleasant uh came with some friends uh josh you did not bring any uh beautiful

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women to which i thought i was very unkind but still i think that was it and he brought he brought

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he brought us together so are we good does that make up trust me trust me we're good plus janice is

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sitting here listen if josh if your wife is listening he did not bring any beautiful women

434
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and he was by himself the entire time i can attest to this came with another dude baby

435
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shut up but he wasn't with any women don't get him in trouble women but he's already with a bunch

436
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of people for fuck's sake it's on the boat john look make sure to take a look at your tattoo and

437
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remind yourself who's who's in control here

438
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who's in control it says uh do not fuck right here on my chest so that every morning if i wake up

439
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in the bathroom mirror i remind myself do not fuck with your wife that's what it says i can see

440
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:28,060
that mirror good because um no no no no no that's uh the most dangerous thing i can ever do

441
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i i agree i think that fucking with your wife is worse is worse than fucking with the u.s

442
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government because she knows oh yeah well right listen i can hide uh from the u.s government which

443
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we're doing and have been quite comfortably for more than a year you cannot hide from janice no

444
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no no no i will find you janice will find me i'm sorry all right they want to know is is your vest

445
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bulletproof i don't have the vest on now but yes i of course have bulletproof vests that's a silly

446
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question one person in my situation wanted listen i'm wanted now let me count them

447
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by the u.s the bahamas cuba well cuba doesn't want me i just can't go back the dominican republic

448
00:50:15,820 --> 00:50:21,280
police and guatemala five fucking countries before of course i have bulletproof vests

449
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all right next question i'm just i'm looking at the chat and i'm laughing they said mr

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they said they said mr mr mcafee do you think privacy coins like ghost are going to be illegal

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by governments like super legally i can answer this question yes the government does not like

452
00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:46,120
privacy coins because they want to know whatever privacy they want to they want to know everything

453
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:51,820
you're fucking doing they want to know everything you're doing that's the whole purpose of the u.s

454
00:50:51,820 --> 00:50:58,540
digital dollar is to track everything yes every fucking thing but listen every single penny you get

455
00:50:58,540 --> 00:51:03,720
they're going to know the instant it reaches your account and everything you spend everything

456
00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:08,500
they're going to know instantly as soon as it leaves so i mean like if you're you know if you're

457
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have a face for bangkok or kurswell i mean the government may not care but they're going to know

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exactly and they can they can use that against you

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00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:26,620
duh yes yes yes yes all privacy in the end is going to be illegal but the question is this will

460
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you fucking accept that people or not that's the only question i have because it's up to you

461
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:42,680
it's up to you listen smoking weed for 75 years in america was illegal and in some states a fucking

462
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:48,920
company did it stop you no those of you there might be one or two out there who've done it once

463
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:57,380
all right did it stop you no well then god damn it do not let it stop you from being free

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i'm sorry about forgetting no we need to get serious i like to you know these are these are very

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important topics especially during time the times that we're in we're in the midst of essentially a

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financial revolution and a lot of people don't understand like the earth is shifting the

467
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world is shifting the way we do business the way we spend money is shifting so next question fed and

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ecb keep printing money economy okay hold on one second economy will blow up anytime like i just said

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00:52:26,860 --> 00:52:32,360
what final step is needed to convince the masses to embrace crypto as replacement to our current fiat

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system and what role will goal play ghost play in this transition well that's a very deep question

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i'm really sorry you asked it nevertheless it deserves an answer um i don't know i really don't um i do

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know that if people you hold the line if you're willing to risk uh and i promise you when when uh

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privacy coins become illegal it's not going to be a felony maybe first offense is i don't know the 500

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dollar fine like the first offense for weed in california back in 2000 all right um that if you will hold the line

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and if you will not give in to the burden of control by a corrupt government and all governments people

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00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:40,760
end up being corrupt if you don't give in then i believe that what normally happens in any

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00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:50,820
system of chaos is that those who understand where it's headed and what the final solution is intended

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00:53:50,820 --> 00:53:56,500
by your government and hold the line others will simply just come to your side this is just what

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00:53:56,500 --> 00:54:02,020
happens in all revolutions rather violent non-violent whether it's a revolution in thought

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like imagine people when christopher columbus returned to portugal and said hey dudes uh the world's

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fucking around imagine imagine the chaos from those who for 3 000 years convinced number one earth is

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flat and by the way the people who still believe that and i'm not going to disillusion you in any sense

483
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:40,940
but please go to bed now while i continue speaking um that the earth was flat and that the sun

484
00:54:40,940 --> 00:54:51,900
evolved around it okay you imagine now some people were were punished severely for that uh heretical

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thought so columbus created a revolution in idea in concept and in

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understanding this is where we are with crypto people this is where we are where much of the

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00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:14,820
world without thinking has bought into fiat currencies the necessity of someone else giving you fucking

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permission to send money to a rock or a rock you know korea or someplace where they say you can't

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00:55:21,940 --> 00:55:30,140
that those people when you come and say hey you know i haven't by the way janice and i do not have a

490
00:55:30,140 --> 00:55:40,140
bank account we don't have a credit card we don't have any uh yen or pounds or fiat currency what do we use

491
00:55:40,140 --> 00:55:57,220
d-a-b-e-l-u-s-m-a-r-i-d-a-i-l-o-n-a-r-o-r-n-o-r-th-a-l-o-n-a-r-l-o-c-l-e-l-o-r-s-l-o- linguistia that is

492
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and buy a fucking pizza i can go on to google and wherever i am find somebody somewhere with

493
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:13,260
a restaurant they will accept the ai nice are you are you sorry i'm no i got a quick question i want

494
00:56:13,260 --> 00:56:17,420
to kind of segue into that um so are you going to start using ghosts to pay for things as well

495
00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:24,540
just like you use of course duh duh i gotta ask gotta ask okay for you people developing monero

496
00:56:24,540 --> 00:56:36,200
god bless you you opened a door a door of incredible power into a field of opportunities that i never

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00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:44,420
dreamed of that no one had never dreamed of i mean you know if you use bitcoin or or ethereum then

498
00:56:44,420 --> 00:56:49,320
it's open i can look in your wallet and see how much you have where it goes where it came from

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00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:56,280
forever and so can anybody but monero came along and said well fuck that shit right so when the

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00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:02,520
dark web when bitcoin first came out stopped accepting credit cards and said yes we're only

501
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:08,740
accepting bitcoin and then monero came along and said nobody accepts bitcoin in the dark web nobody

502
00:57:08,740 --> 00:57:15,980
but everybody accepts monero in the story um so yes i i'm definitely going to start paying

503
00:57:15,980 --> 00:57:20,560
the ghost i mean why the hell would i go through otherwise i mean i'm a very selfish motherfucker

504
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:25,500
my apologies i am all right well it's actually interesting that you brought up people using

505
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:29,700
bitcoin to pay for stuff on the web my stepson actually that's actually how i heard about bitcoin

506
00:57:29,700 --> 00:57:35,060
was from my stepson so shout out to you son i know you're watching this he's what is your step

507
00:57:35,060 --> 00:57:43,440
son's what's your step son's name addison addison yeah good man good man he's he's a he's he's an

508
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:49,660
extremely intelligent um tech person very very well versed in um in in crypto and tech all types

509
00:57:49,660 --> 00:57:53,120
of stuff so i had to give him a shout out um a couple more a couple more questions then i'll let

510
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you and janice go i know you guys are super busy um will ghost be on major exchanges soon

511
00:57:57,180 --> 00:58:04,280
um i'll leave that up to josh to talk about i'm not going to talk about any any dates other than

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the september 15th the ghost phone it's going to be out three days you're going to see the main

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00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:17,440
net uh for the ghost coin and next month the ghost exchange all right so i have a quick question um

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there's a community that wanted me to bring up their project to you it's called note blockchain

515
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and it's basically it's a social media platform and you can post it's they don't censor you can

516
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,500
post whatever you want if you want to post a dick pic if you want to post a meme whatever you want

517
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:35,000
you can you can you can post on there the community is very vibrant and they are great

518
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:40,020
absolutely amazing um do you use other are you interested in using this other decentralized well

519
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:47,400
sensor anti-censorship listen i i'm i cooperate with every like gab and and so on every platform

520
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:53,560
that does not censor of course and god bless you guys the reason i laughed is wendy

521
00:58:53,560 --> 00:59:01,520
shit i wish i had videoed that segment you're saying you can post dick pics you said it was such class

522
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such i'm gonna i'm gonna clip it and i will send it i will clip it and i will send it to you

523
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:12,820
thank you very much we have time for one more question wendy i'm sorry all right that's fine

524
00:59:12,820 --> 00:59:17,620
interview coming up that's fine actually i'll let you i'll i'll let you um end with any closing

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thoughts that you have that you want to leave the community with because i appreciate your time

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and janice's time yes okay i i am 74 years old and probably older than 99.99 percent of the people

527
00:59:32,740 --> 00:59:39,340
listening to this if there's anything that i have learned that i want to pass on to younger people

528
00:59:39,340 --> 00:59:51,860
it is please god people do only what you love nothing else nothing i don't give a shit what it is if

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you wake up on a monday morning and go uh i gotta go to my job well fucking quit it if you wake up next

530
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,580
to your spouse and you go well what the fuck happened to the man or woman that i married

531
01:00:03,580 --> 01:00:12,900
leave pack your fucking bags don't look back people do not because if you're doing something you do not

532
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:20,040
love who are you hurting you and every single person around you because if you think you're in a

533
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:25,700
marriage in which you are unhappy that you're making your spouse happy your children your neighbors

534
01:00:25,700 --> 01:00:38,900
fuck no no i mean in all sincerity look in the mirror and say do i love my life

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and if not change it then thank you wendy very much

536
01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:47,960
john thank you so much for coming on having i had an absolutely great time with you thanks for

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answering some of the questions addressing some of the excuse me addressing some of the concerns

538
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:58,340
about ghost um god bless you and janice thank you guys for doing everything that you do god bless you

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01:00:58,340 --> 01:01:03,760
janice say goodbye to everybody bye everybody um again you guys anybody that's watching this thank

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01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,820
you so much for watching um shout out to the ghost community shout out to note blockchain uh make

541
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sure you guys follow me on twitter um subscribe to my youtube channel make sure to like and comment

542
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,660
that helps to trigger the youtube algorithm and again john god bless you guys and be safe thank

543
01:01:15,660 --> 01:01:17,320
you so much all right thank you