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the time grid we know as August 8th to 9th has always been a magnet for events
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of savage purification on August 9th 1945 an atomic bomb was dropped on
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Nagasaki Japan thus bringing the Second World War to its apocalyptic finale
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the first National Congress of the Ku Klux Klan was also held on August 8th
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August 8th 1907 is the birthday of Edward Gein the notorious Wisconsin
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ghoul whose cannibal exploits inspired the film Psycho on August 8th 1914
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Hitler's friend unity Mitford the British fascist who worked for an
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alliance between Germany and England was born on August 8th 1985 the Los
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Angeles Police Department first announced to a terrified public that the
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night stalker a satanic serial killer was haunting that city on August 8th
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1974 Richard Milhouse Nixon became the first president in United States history
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to resign on August 8th 1969 Disneyland in Anaheim California opened the doors
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of its popular attraction the haunted mansion later that same evening August
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8 1969 at another mansion in Bel Air California five persons were slain
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including the film actress Sharon Tate the next evening August 9th 1969 the
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murders continued when a grocer Lino LaBianca and his wife were slain at
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their home on 3301 Waverly formerly the residents of Walt Disney these murders
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brought the 60s to an end in that year of fear 1969 a myth was born that
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continues to fascinate the world a man named Charles Manson and other members
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of his family were arrested in Death Valley and brought to trial for these
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murders after the 20-year barrage of books TV movies magazines lies
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distortions one may well wonder is there anything left to know Charles
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Manson has been transmogrified by the electronic thaumaturgy of the mass
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media into a larger-than-life erratic emblem of evil Manson has become the
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favored brand name for murder and madness the very archetype of everything
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the popular mind understands is anti-social crazy and criminal he is one
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of the last true heretics of our time is it possible to peer behind the
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monumental edifice of this Manson myth that fiction forever frozen in time by
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the famous life magazine cover of December 19 1969 throughout the world
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this image has become an icon as well known as the logo of Coca-Cola or
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McDonald's and indeed Manson has become the property of the corporation a
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consumer product designed to satisfy an audience that loves nothing more than to
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be frightened to regard its own death it has been said that every society
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receives the criminal it deserves why and how has America conjured Manson to
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be public enemy number one to serve the need for a villain a scapegoat a devil
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in a world that claims not to believe in devils this tape is designed to
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deprogram the minds of those who are still thinking those who have not yet
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been lulled into sedation by the soothing lies that surround us
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yeah
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and my feelings begin to grow as my goal begins to know my knowing begins to
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surrender and my surrender and since I go and my thinking in my mind and I'm
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thinking from within thinking that in forever and I'm feeling crime or sin
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on the mountain and my mom she only got me there
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oh
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oh
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there out there
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don't miss our baby
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God on our home
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oh
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in your stomach and blow off your mother's head
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don't want to go on a rift don't want to go on three
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don't talk to walk on talking don't talk to talk on me don't talk to me don't
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whisper away the whole boat minding a dead jungle walk on the walk and got a
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bone yesterday got a pot and got it cooking got my weasels and my bones got my
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beer my friend I'm at my own got my whiskey and my whiskey got my
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catch up in the tree got whiskers on the willow got the willows on tree got the
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trees on the spaceman got the spaceman on the dirt got the moving on the monkey
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got the monkeys wearing shirts got the things out on string and got my string
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from my head got my whiskey in my yellow and my yellows in my head
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I was even born into the universe in the perfection of that I was born 1111 34
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Veterans Day and my grandfather my granddaddy was was the conductor on the
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BNO railroad out of Kentucky out of the blue moon of Kentucky that's off the
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First World War Manson was born in Cincinnati Ohio the bastard son of a
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teenage girl named Kathleen Maddox whose ancestry goes back to the earliest
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settlers of Kentucky in 1792 said Manson's much maligned mother in a 1971
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interview Charles was born out of wedlock but it wasn't just any man I
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wasn't a prostitute I've never been a prostitute I was just 15 years old and a
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dumb kid I was Miss dumb but my mother was a very stripped woman very religious
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and didn't allow smoking or drinking or even movies so when me and my sister
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got a few years on us I guess we had a tendency to be a little wild the way
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kids will she brought her child to Kentucky to be passed back and forth
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between various relatives one of whom was an uncle Jess a moonshiner who
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struggled against the federal revenues I'm from Kentucky in Kentucky I live in
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a county called Moorhead and they got them long guns and if they don't know
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you and you come up to holler you know we only got enough to last us to get
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through the winter we keep ours in jars you dig what I'm saying we raised ours
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and hogs and cows ain't got no money don't need no money but I can get
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through this winter you dig what I'm saying kick back and each summer I get
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up and I worry about getting through the next winter you dig that yeah that
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winter was lost 40 years ago and I'm the child of uncle Jess that sent me rolling
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out of them hills in Kentucky dig one saying to save his cabin to save his
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earth to save his planet because he stood there and blew himself up when
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fucking assholes like this come in and want to take you still away and shit he
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blew himself up he blew his kids up he blew his he blew everything up hound
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dog up chickens up blew the whole thing up but when he blew that up he went into
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the same eternal dream you dig what I'm saying the same eternal dream that I've
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been in in jail you can't fake on me you dig because I was your children you
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can't fake on me I was your children of the 40s Elendor and Roosevelt can't
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fake on me yeah that's what raised me I'm a child I'm a child of nighttime you
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know you're a child of your time my I'm locked in Second World War all your
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brothers run in Vietnam War well those are your brothers are like my little
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kids I was brotherhood to the Korean War and my father was it was the Second
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World War I'll put you this way when I was a little kid in the streets I was
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smoking grass and it wasn't been a few people smoking grass I come to jail as a
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beatnik I don't know whether you remember beatniks but what your hippies
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were the 60s were what we were were the 50s it's like a long time ago back in
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the 50s when I was in reform school and I would get in the fight or I get an
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argument and I'd be down to solitary confinement and it had me down solitary
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confinement I just go and I turned everything off a long time ago back in
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Virginia when I was about 17
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thank you
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you don't mind if I don't sit down do you this is the only chance I get to
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come around unhandcuffed for over 40 years Manson has survived most of his
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life in what he calls the hallways of the always the reform schools jails and
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prisons that have been his home and his tomb his thought was born in the
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darkness of the whole of solitary confinement apart from time beyond the
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pale of society in his cell he created his own world and speaks his own language
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where he has discovered that there is only the mind right wherever I am
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because I don't really move if I'm here I'm here I move over here I'm still here
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I'm still there and it was wherever I go I'm still there I call it pice pice
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I'm from pice I'm a Lichen we're Lichens well I like you you know you look all
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right to me dig one saying so I accept you as a Lichen so when I accept you as
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a Lichen you like kin to me because I never had a family see so you're like
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my kin you're like kin to me you know and I accept you completely and totally
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into that all the way through your mother's relationships and your father's
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relationship all the relationships you guys have I didn't have that because I
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was over here in reform school boys group I had the relationship of the
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guys over here boys group over on the basketball court the basketball course my
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kingdom always has been because I ruled it from child check and find them if you
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think that's your destiny not to know I ain't this is just me staying alive it's
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my life and there was we all do what we have to do to survive right well you
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know you put a child down here now I've survived this long you know I'm 40 I'm
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over 40 years in prison I've survived and I've survived you Manson claims that
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the so-called straight world outside of prison is but an inverted reflection of
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the underworld in which he has lived to him the reality that presidents and
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law-abiding citizens except begins in the hermetic alternate universe of
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criminals cons and outlaws but Elvis Presley was only the shadow that was
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playing up over somebody that was dying in a hole down in Brushy Mountain,
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Tennessee or someone that was over in the Soltec confinement in and you see
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what I'm saying in other words the real Humphrey Bogart and the real James
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Cagney are actors I mean the ones you know the real ones they died in here you
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know in other words we die so that you guys can play actors in there was we
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got to be the bad guys so you guys can be the good guys dig but in reality we
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know that you're not the good guys that you guys are worse than we are you think
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I'm saying which is acceptable because we're outlaws I'm a reflection of you
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take a little baby you put him in the penitentiary and you raise him up I'm
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Richard Milhouse Nixon I'm Richard Milhouse Nixon did once in but I'm him
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down here under the ground man I've had to do all the fighting while he gets up
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there and takes all the bows day I got to carry the motherfucker why this fat
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sack of shit won't let me call my old lady why his old lady tells him shut up
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I may I started all over we started rebirth movement we started the rebirth
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movement that Carter stole see you guys outside don't realize everything we do
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in here they'll play off and tell you that that's them if I dig a foundation
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for a house somebody else will say oh yes I've got this is my foundation here
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and I've you know in other words in the United States when you run in the United
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States you ain't running in nothing but con nothing but bullshit and nothing but
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devil you're running in nothing but demon the United States of America is
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the demon of the world Manson seems locked in a perpetual love-hate
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struggle with his keepers cursing them and forgiving them in the same breath
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and I stand back and give other people their space you see what I'm saying but
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they don't give me respect I'm sending all that back around yeah I'm sending
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it all back around you see what I'm saying because I live in my mind oh I
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would imagine yes yes yeah the last the glass wave of these guys the last wave
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of these guys that sent me to Vacaville are all gone now
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dr. Morgan blew his brains out can't we can't get into any music because we're
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in what I'm locked into is a soulless little jealous punk I'm gonna be all
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kinds of ways we could do it yeah I know I was thinking let me use that trash can
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down there around unless you want to pass a rule against that everything I do
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they make a rule against it see if I wanted a bucket of shit they'd tell me
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no you can't have that and then pass a rule said no buckets of shit man no
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matter what I want to do they want to keep me from doing it no matter what I
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want they don't like it they you know in other words if I I got I'm very capable
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and I'm unhandcuffed it's all together different game and these people that
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cut my mail off let me tell you what they do to me they cut my mail off you
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can give this to the next wave of little kids that you grow up to they cut my
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mail off they lie that she they got some big old fat women that paint their
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faces and shit and dye their hair and they cut the legs off the table so little
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girls can't get over and play with the little guys and they got all kinds of
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little sex paranoias and little little deceiving little lying cheating little
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things that they play and then they'll push him off on somebody else and say
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it's all their fault that they're no good and we got the bad guys locked up
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over here and we're all the good guys you dig what I'm saying when in reality
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man you got a bunch of scurvy fucking PC motherfucking pieces of shit you dig
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what I'm saying but that's on one hand here's where Abarachas comes in if they
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didn't have the love to do it who in the fuck would Manson invokes the ancient
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god of the Gnostic pantheon Abarachas or Abarachas a symbol of the eternal now a
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state of mind that exists beyond the false dichotomies of light and darkness
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good and evil right and wrong Manson justifies his forgiveness of his
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captors in the name of a Braxis a god that represents total reality I respect
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that same fucking asshole and I'm down on every day that's Abarachas man we
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roll on it we've been rolling on ever since he come on the tier he comes on
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charity fuck you you son of a bitch those shit and piss in his face dig one
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saying knock him down and he comes back and feeds me with it and lets me live
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and when he lets me live then I look back at him and I say well you know you
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not so bad after all if you let me live so then I have to let you live so as
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long as I'm in here I gotta let him live because you know living in my life
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clang bang clang when the big iron door they put me in a cell with a concrete
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floor nine other men in that cell with me I'm holding that mate with destiny
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clang bang clang clang bang clang clang
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How do you think you survived the ruin of the situation?
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Because I'm very I'm very adapt I can adapt to just about anything man you
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know in other words I stay right here all the time I've been here all right
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here all the time all my life so it's no new thing to me so when you go out in
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the prison yard you got to be up on everything that happens around you you can't
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let anything get in me that you know I'm letting you get into me now you know
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that don't the spirit is there and we could bring the spirit back to life but
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for people like this you dig what I'm saying he hates white people he's scared
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to death of this black guy he's afraid this black guy's gonna beat him up the
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black guy ain't even thinking about it the only reason he's scared of black
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guys because he's messed over the black guy so bad you dig what I'm saying he's
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got all that back so what do you do is feed me back to this dude you dig what
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I'm saying and say well here don't don't hit me but jump on him and then they'll
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hold me in the point and stand me out here in front of all these black people
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you dig and then push me down in there and try to get me hurt try to get me
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killed and every way they can and then when they can't then they say oh wow man
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then they want to wear boots and wonder about I'm gonna catch up with you I'll
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betcha catch up with you I betcha I catch up with you buddy I bet you I'll
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make you be what you are or I'll skin your fucking ass I'll hang you on trees
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I'll do every fucking thing I can do to do just what exactly what I've got to do
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to survive man I've been in jail since 1943 I've been locked up all my life I've
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been locked up all my life so I'm in that dream I am NOT that dream don't get
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me I am NOT that dream I'm only a witness one little witness one little
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fucking little piece of shit in that dream there's all kinds of people in
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that dream that are already all down the road you know according to 1961 prison
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records he killed the time he was serving for various charges of pimping
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forging checks and petty theft by studying various systems of personal
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development ranging from Dale Carnegie's how to win friends and influence people
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to L Ron Hubbard's Scientology on the vernal equinox of 1967 March 21st at 8
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15 a.m. the 32 year old prisoner number B 33 9 2 o was released from Terminal
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Island prison requesting permission to travel to San Francisco
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I am a mechanical man a mechanical man and I do the best I can because I have
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my family when Manson arrived in San Francisco in 1967 he drifted into the
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anti-culture that the media was already calling hippie he began to attract a
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following mostly of young women who were drawn to his music and his philosophy
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there's a bunch of broads that follow me around but there's always broads following me
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around then when I got back out the hippie was a takeoff on the beatnik as
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the beatnik was a takeoff on the bohemian or the bohemian was a takeoff on the
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bobskaboo in other words just loop the loops and circles that come in and out
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of these places the idea of Manson is the ultimate hippie and the family is an
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example of hippie dems ultimate folly has been ingrained into the public mind
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with all the other simplifications that have so far served as truth
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in fact as Manson has pointed out he was a child of the 30s not the 60s and the
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family ideology had very little to do with the ideas of passivity and racial
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and sexual equality characteristic of the 60s when black militancy and civil
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rights were at their height Manson insisted that his family retain their
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cultural and genetic heritage when the feminists were burning their first bras
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Manson taught his family to look to nature for an understanding of the
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balance between male and female initiating them into the joys of
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complete submission feminism I'm a matriarch I'm a beautiful woman I'm a
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very beautiful woman all my women know that all my women know that all of them
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sure they're all beautiful the net squeaky from one of the first to join
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Manson once wrote born into this imbalanced world of women's law in 1967
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caring truth over the threshold he met thousands of young in the streets I was
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one of them he stood our words up in truth never broke our wills we put up
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our lives and the symbol of one finger as alternative to anarchy in the family
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hierarchy each woman is a member of the order of the rainbow each with a
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corresponding color Lynette Fromm's color in the rainbow is red from who is
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imprisoned in 1975 for the attempted assassination of President Gerald Ford
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remains loyal to Manson and his cause she better be right on she knows what
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she's got to do see she knows what she's got to do to survive on this planet
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earth just like all the people that are with me do the ones that are with me do
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the ones that are not with me or not with themselves squeaky the one that's
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down there doing life trying to get me out of jail when from escaped from
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prison for two days on Christmas Eve of 1987 a wave of paranoia swept across the
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nation that had not been seen since 1969 that one woman could inspire such fear
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is a sign of how powerful the Manson myth has become in contrast to Fromm's
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loyalty Charles Tex Watson the principal murder in the Tate LaBianca
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case explains his family days with the convenient excuse of diabolical
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possession now Tex atones for his sins as a model born-again Christian prisoner
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in San Luis Obispo prison where he serves as a prison chaplain delivering
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sermons to the unsaved in 1979 Watson was married in prison to another born
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again Christian who has since given birth to his children the fruit of what
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one imagines to be wholesome Christian procreation during conjugal visits to
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the prison Manson regards Watson's new persona with
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amusement text text beautiful text got off with you know text got up with gives
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you need to try to walk around and say you get your pin who you know and he was
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there for a while and we were learning new things and we were experiencing our
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bodies and stuff and date but then he decided that he wanted to go back into
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what his mother was doing and I looked over at him and I said well if you get
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if you can get anything new over in there you did what I'm saying go ahead
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and see what you can find out but I'll tell you everything on this finger that's
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over there you know save you a long trip but he wants to go back through Jesus
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loves me he did once and he wants to go back and worship and play all the games
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that we played for 2,000 years and if that's what he wants to do it's okay
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with me I you know I'm still right there saying all right man you know like you
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if that's what you want to do but you're only destroying yourselves man
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the ghosts of the family still haunt the locales where they once lived in
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1968 Manson persuaded the octogenarian George Spahn to allow the family to live
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on the ramshackle movie set the spawn ranch in Chatsworth California it had
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appeared in countless old cowboy films as the archetypal Western town here the
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family engaged in an ongoing psychodrama changing their names and
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personalities immersed in their own dimension of make-believe with Manson
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serving as director they lived inside the facades of the crumbling sets
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tending the horses on the ranch and living off of food thrown away in
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supermarket garbage bins now 20 years later only a field of overgrown weed
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stands on the site the spawn ranch was burned down in a fire that destroyed
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every last trace here in this creek bed at the side of the hills leading into
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the Santa Susanna Mountains the family would gather in these shaded coves to
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listen to Charlie's music and practice their marksmanship
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the
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Devil's Canyon directly across from the spawn ranch inspired one of Manson's
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songs the past where the devil you can see Santa Susanna is the past where you
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look for me I live I live on my planet my world my desert my thought it took me
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22 years to get through these fucking hallways this is what I'm mad about to
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land my thought down on that desert on Halloween of 1968 Manson decided to move
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his tribe away from the nearby urban decay of Los Angeles and into the
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wilderness of the desert where he imagined they would find the complete
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freedom they sought that Halloween night Manson and a few others camped at
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the tiny Newman cabin a refuge for miners and prospectors on the outskirts
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of the Death Valley National Monument Manson's name is still carved in the
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wood of one of the Newman cabin doors along with the year he first came to
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this desert
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after the family made their way through the almost impenetrable Golaire wash
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they set up a fire here in the hearth of the Myers ranch and surveyed the
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austere beauty of the desert around them
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one of the family girls knew of an abandoned stone house down the road owned
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by an old woman named Barker
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Manson after locating mrs. Barker in nearby furnace Creek convinced her that
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she should allow the family to live in her place in exchange for general
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upkeep and a gold record given to him by one of the beach boys today the ranch
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as much as the family first found it as remote and outpost as can be imagined
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hidden in the vast silence of the desert
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little has changed in the kitchen where the family prepared its meals
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or in the bedroom that once was Manson's
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now what comes to me I have to deal with don't I so I go out in the desert and
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I'm sitting in the desert and I'm not bothering anybody and I'm just having a
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good day I'd rather be a coyote in the desert but I've got to play act this
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human thing this form that I'm in
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in the solitude of the desert he dreamed of training his family to
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learn how to cook and to be a good cook
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and to be a good cook and to be a good cook and to be a good cook and to be a good cook
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and to be a good cook and to be a good cook and to be a good cook and to be a good cook
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and to be a good cook and to be a good cook and to be a good cook and to be a good cook
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and to be a good cook and to be a good cook and to be a good cook and to be a good cook
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he dreamed of training his family for survival long before America had seen an explosion of
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survivalists moving into rural areas to stockpile arms and wait for the apocalypse
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inspired by the exploits of Field Marshal Rommel the Desert Fox in the 40s
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Manson began a massive project of stealing and converting cars into doom buggy attack vehicles
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they would be a new Africa Corps that would rule this desert domain far from the sick city
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the motorcycle clubs that Manson had brought into the family
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the straight satans, satan slaves, the jokers from hell
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would serve as auxiliary troops
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you dig but if you want to get up and ride we'll ride and I'll be right there with you
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you know who I ride with I ride in Venice California with straight satan
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near the Barker Ranch the remains of hundreds of stolen cars still lay resting in the desert sun
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one can still make out the fading psychedelic paint jobs
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my world's out there in that junkyard you know my world's in that picture
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you know what picture my world's in
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this auto graveyard is one of the few signs that the family left behind
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its atmosphere is that of the remains of a lost civilization
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an archaeologists excavation
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so distant does the alien world that blossomed here in 1969 seem
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oh garbage dump oh garbage dump
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why are you called a garbage dump
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oh garbage dump oh garbage dump
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why are you called a garbage dump
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the family foraged into the nearby naval bombing range
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where they stole communication wire which was strung around the Barker Ranch
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further adding to the impression of a command post
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the camouflaged lookout bunkers where the family girls would take shifts
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keeping watch of the ranch
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knives strapped to their legs are still evident
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the fabled family bust that once stood in the front yard of the ranch
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crumbled slowly for years
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eventually local prospectors dragged the infamous relic to an abandoned mine
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and dynamited it
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as if symbolically destroying the spirit the bus once stood for
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as Manson's plans for extending his increasingly militaristic commune
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to the further reaches of Death Valley expanded
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getaway routes were planned emergency supplies of ammunition and gasoline
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were hidden all across the landscape
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this still full can of gasoline stands hidden under the same rock that Manson
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left it under decades ago
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Manson familiar with local Shoshone and Hopi Indian legends of a subterranean
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lake beneath the desert made sporadic attempts to search for what has come to be known
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as the Devil's Hole or the Bottomless Pit
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Squeaky Fromm designed this prototype Armageddon jacket as the uniform for the
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Devil's Witches
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this cavity in the striped butte near Barker Ranch is still said by desert miners to
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support geysers of water and may be the source of the idea long a part of local
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folklore in Death Valley that posits the existence of an underground body of water
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eventually it was here in the quest for the Bottomless Pit that the family was
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to make its last stand
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on August 8th Tex Watson Susan Atkins and two other family women
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drove across this road from the Spahn Ranch to a house on 10050 Cheyello Drive in Bel Air
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where Sharon Tate, Jay Sebring, Wojciech Frakowski and Abigail Folger were murdered
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the subsequent murders unleashed a tidal wave of panic and terror
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speculation in Los Angeles and the world as to the identity of the murderers ran rampant
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similar murders the next evening added a further frisson of fear
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actually I wouldn't be here had it not been for those people you call family
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they're the ones that put me here they're the ones that butchered up a bunch of
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people said here we want you to see this guy I didn't want to be seen you know I
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was trying to get out in the desert they said well this is our star you dig what I'm saying
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I would have went ahead and let you bleed than Elvis Presley you dig you could have had Elvis Presley for your little dreams you dig what I'm saying
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I didn't break the law I got some friends that killed some people but my friends have always been killing people
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I've got a lot of friends that are very terrible people to other people but to me
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and they're just you know you got to be responsible for your actions I'm not your leader I'm not your follower
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like the Kennedy assassination the impact of the so-called Manson murders can never be fully
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understood they entered immediately into the folklore of our time an impenetrable
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cipher it would be impossible to penetrate the fog of disinformation that covers these murders
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the thick veil of rumors and theories conspiracies and cover-ups that obscure the way
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were they the first casualties of a holy war?
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Tex Watson's revenge for a drug burn by Wojciech Frakowski
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Susan Atkins' attempt at a copycat murder designed to free Bobby Bocellet
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were the murderers strangers to the slain?
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there are only questions
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the murders seem to echo the sordid epitaphs of old Hollywood in their excess
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J.C. Brin the hairstylist of the stars had been living in the house where 30s actress Jean Harlow's husband Paul Burn had killed himself decades ago
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ironically this article in the Los Angeles Times wondered idly who the unknown assailants were
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will an article right next to it answer the question?
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on August 16th 1969 sheriff's deputies raided the spawn ranch and arrested most of the family suspected of auto theft
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they were released shortly thereafter for lack of evidence without the police ever suspecting that they had had in their custody most of those involved in the murders
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of all the masks that Manson has been given to wear it must be said once and for all that the most blatantly false is that of Manson the mass murderer
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that Manson was not present at any of the murders that his name is inextricably connected with is a simple fact of history
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indeed it has never been shown to be true
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that Manson has ever killed anyone and yet he is known as a killer a butcher a murderer of unborn babies
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there have been far grisly murders than these and yet every media hack feels compelled to refer to them as the murders of the century
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if they are not the most obvious and the most obvious
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there have been far grisly murders than these and yet every media hack feels compelled to refer to them as the murders of the century
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if not of all time have the victims been five anonymous individuals who would have noticed or cared
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somehow the murder of a movie star is deemed the worst taboo that can be transgressed in our culture
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perhaps it is only America's drooling morbid curiosity for the death styles of the rich and the vapid
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a soap opera to be lived vicariously with hypocritical tongue clucking and a copious flow of tears
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to mitigate their ghoulish guilt at being titillated by death
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to even speculate on the motives behind the murders is a moot point
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it is generally assumed that they began with the similar murder of Gary Hinman a music teacher and drug dealer
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committed by family member Bobby Bocille in July of 1969
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a partial motive for the Tate murders may have been to give the impression that Bocille could not have been the murderer
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Manson ruefully recalls the day that Bocille told him of his desire to kill Gary Hinman due to a drug deal gone wrong
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I know when I've done something when I didn't do something and someone comes to me and they say I got a problem
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I said what is it? And they said will you help me? I said sure I'll help you
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He said well can I be your brother? I said sure I'm your brother
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I'll help you do anything when there's a problem he said guy owes me some money I said well if you're big enough go get it
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if you ain't sit down and keep your mouth shut he said what would you do? I said fuck it man it's only money
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I wouldn't put my life up for no fucking money
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you dig what I'm saying? He said well I'm gonna go get my money I said well that's up to you
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it's got nothing to do with me the guy went over and fucked the guy up took his money
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you dig what I'm saying? He said I killed the dude I said what the fuck you tell me for?
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what you tell me for? you making me a conspiracy to something?
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But the die had been cast thus leading Charlie to seek sanctuary in Death Valley
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I asked if he remembered the day that he was arrested for the final time
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yeah one of these incompetent fucking assholes got me put a pistol on me and put handcuffs on me
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and I've been in handcuffs for 18 years that's the only reality he's got is me in handcuffs
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it was here in this tiny cabinet in the Barker Ranch bathroom that Manson attempted to hide from police during the raid of the ranch
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one of the arresting officers saw a string of matted hair sticking out of the cabinet
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I said Charlie today the cabinet where Manson lived his last moment of freedom is gone
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in essence it seems that Manson is not serving his life sentence for murder since he was at no time ever accused of murdering anybody
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but for his subversive ideas and because of the abstract notion that he is simply too dangerous
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in a mockery of justice that was his trial he was not allowed to defend himself
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when he was finally given the right to testify in court
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prosecutor Vincent Bouliosi argued that Manson's hypnotic powers might be too persuasive to the jury
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thus they were banned from hearing his testimony on the grounds that they might be convinced of Manson's innocence
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during his testimony that was delivered to an empty court room Manson declared
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these children that come at you with knives they are your children you taught them I didn't teach them I just tried to help them stand up
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you can send me to the penitentiary it's not a big thing I've been there all my life anyway what about your children
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these are just a few there is many more coming right at you
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I've seen charms that melt in your arms but my great Martin don't blame me
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can't you see when you do the things you do say that you say it or pray that you're praying but don't blame me
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when you do the things you do say that you say it or pray that you're praying but don't blame me
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I can't help it if that's all gone moon won't shine all this stuff's done
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you've been standing on a sunshine don't blame me I never told you what to do
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I was stupid enough to believe that I had rights in this country you know I believed in what the judge said
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I worked for 20 years to get out of jail I did everything these assholes told me I thought that ding ding was my daddy man
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I played up underneath that fool and did everything he told me to do right just perfect perfect to the letter of the law all the way down the line
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then when I got outside I never broke that law I'm incarcerated because they're afraid
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and I'm sitting there watching all you fucking rubescoops playing my life all these years you take me from court
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you dig and the lawyer represents me and then he got guys that represent him and then they all represent that and then these guys represent me
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and they all represent that and they all represent me to start with it's all in my life that they're standing up with all this big old shit
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that they're standing up in it's my life that they're feeding on at the bottom the king don't have any clothes man
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you dig we told you that in 69 when Nixon fell down now you're trying to drag that same old egg up there and try to put something up
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it's already gone man rather than try to build another one
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Manson is crazy it is said because he believes that he is Jesus Christ
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behind this cartoon conception is a more complicated cosmology than has been previously understood
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and then you see Jesus and you see Christ as being a little god partner
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because I had the altars of the druids long before the cross came
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and the altars of the druids will be there long after the cross is gone
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whether the Christians like to accept it or not he dig one thing and the cross came by
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and passed by my window and I seen it go by and I said
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oh Christ was a little god
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ah because that was where they hung that fucking last asshole
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what do you think about that last asshole
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he was he's still there and you see him he's still right there
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nothing's changed it's right now man and then as it's right now now
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you dig and I'm not going back over there fuck them assholes
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Manson's use of Christian terminology may have been inspired by a man who once walked a similar path
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Francis Penovic was a burglar con man and petty criminal who had spent much time in prison
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before he changed his name to Krishna Venta in 1948 and announced that he was the Christ everlasting
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in the 50s Krishna Venta built his fountain of the world commune in the Santa Susana mountains
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not far from the spawn ranch where Manson and his family would settle over a decade later
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like Manson Krishna Venta's following consisted mostly of young female disciples
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they were given different colors according to their temperament and aptitudes much like Charlie's rainbow
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Krishna Venta was killed in 1958 in a dynamite blast ignited by a jealous husband
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who disapproved of the Guru's sexual teachings but his legend lingered in the area
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to inspire Manson to attempt to take over the cult years later
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atop this skull-like rock formation at fountain of the world Manson held crucifixion rituals that culminated in family orgies
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at one time during his Hollywood period Manson was hired as technical advisor for a Universal Studios film project
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concerning the second coming of Christ
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when Charlie learned that the producers intended to portray Christ as black he abandoned the project
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you see now every time I come down off of this you don't like me
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then I'm no good son of a bitch because then I put a piece of steel right there on my leg
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and I can cut anything with any place I want to cut it
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and I live within the sphere of me
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I don't push it off on nobody else
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you take the most holy man they got you dig
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and treat him as worse as they can
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degredate him, drag him through all kinds of shit
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spit on him, cuss him
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just do everything and then turn around and go to church
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and worship him on Sunday and think you're going to get away with it
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don't work that way
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and yet for all of Manson's identification as man's son
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the son of man
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the archetypal figure of the hanged man or the slain king
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he is perhaps more commonly identified with the opposite force in nature
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the man who is the son of man
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the man who is the son of man
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he is probably more commonly identified with the opposite force in nature
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you know, I mean they preach it but they don't believe it
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I believe it
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I don't preach it but I know it
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it's a reality
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it's a reality
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Jesus Christ is a reality
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and so is that other guy
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the dark allure of Satanism and the mystique of the vampire
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links Sharon Tate and Susan Atkins in a web of mystery
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they seem bound together by destiny
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protagonists in a drama decreed by fate
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the dark allure of Satanism and the mystique of the vampire
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protagonists in a drama decreed by fate
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there are parallels in their lives that defy logic
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in 1967 Susan Atkins was an aspiring actress
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making her living as a stripper in San Francisco's North Beach
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strangely enough she worked under the pseudonym of Sharon King
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she was hired by Anton Zandor Leve the high priest of the Church of Satan
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to play the part of a vampire in a topless witches review
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held at a San Francisco nightclub
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Atkins had written of this performance
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I was the perfect sexy vampire
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ready for my casket lying at the center of the stage
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I knew I'd never be able to get into that casket for real without getting stoned
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I popped the acid tab into my mouth
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I had shaken several people when I had risen from the casket
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and pointed a long blood red fingernail at the audience
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and marked them as my next victims
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the same year that Susan Atkins made her debut as a vampire
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Sharon Tate was cast by her husband-to-be Roman Polanski
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as a vampire's victim in his film The Dance of the Vampires
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in the film Tate's character is referred to as a sacrifice to Lucifer
55:46.360 --> 55:49.360
earlier in her career Sharon Tate had played a witch
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in the British film The Eye of the Devil or Thirteen
55:54.360 --> 55:57.360
during this film Tate began a brief period
55:57.360 --> 56:00.360
of dabbling with white witchcraft
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she was initiated into the coven of Alec Sanders
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self-proclaimed king of the witches
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by high priestess Maxine Sanders
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the ritual was held in Tate's dressing room trailer
56:13.440 --> 56:16.440
on the set of the film
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if Sharon Tate was fascinated with the more benign aspects of the occult
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Susan Atkins held a similar short-lived dalliance with black magic
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here she is seen in the ritual chamber of the Church of Satan
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with founder Leve
56:33.520 --> 56:36.520
perhaps it was inevitable that Sharon Tate and Susan Atkins
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both dilettantes in the opposite extremes of occultism
56:40.520 --> 56:43.520
would finally meet in 1969
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it is alleged that Susan Atkins licked the blood of Sharon Tate
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off her fingers that night before leaving something witchy on the wall
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reenacting their previous roles as vampire and vampire's victim
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at the approximate time of Sharon Tate's murder 1230 a.m.
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the TV guide for August 8th, 1969
57:08.600 --> 57:11.600
reveals that a film entitled The Vampire's Ghost
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was broadcast over the airwaves
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there are other oblique links between Antony Leve's Church of Satan
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and the Manson phenomenon
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on the very night of the Tate murders
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Antony Leve performed a rite in the same ritual chamber
57:30.680 --> 57:33.680
where Susan Atkins had once posed
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this ritual was entitled The Riding Fort
57:38.680 --> 57:41.680
and its purpose according to Leve
57:41.680 --> 57:43.680
a strict advocate of law and order
57:43.680 --> 57:46.680
who despised the 60s lifestyle
57:46.680 --> 57:50.680
was essentially to cast a curse upon the hippie movement
57:51.680 --> 57:54.680
part of the invocation read that night
57:54.680 --> 57:57.680
beware you psychedelic vermin
57:57.680 --> 58:00.680
your smug pomposity with its thin disguise of tolerance
58:00.680 --> 58:03.680
will serve you no longer
58:03.680 --> 58:06.680
we know your mark and recognize it well
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we walk the night as the villains no longer
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our steeds await and our eyes are ablaze with the fires of hell
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unknown to Leve while his sorceries were underway in San Francisco
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the killings that would bring the 60s to a screeching halt
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were being carried out in Los Angeles
58:24.760 --> 58:28.760
two years earlier Leve had served as technical advisor
58:28.760 --> 58:32.760
on Roman Polanski's satanic epic Rosemary's Baby
58:32.760 --> 58:37.760
in which Leve appeared in a cameo role as the devil himself
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Rosemary's Baby was filmed at the Dakota Hotel in New York City
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a reputedly haunted edifice
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in 1980, Beatle John Lennon was assassinated outside the lobby of the Dakota
58:50.840 --> 58:54.840
Lennon was the author of the song, Health of Skelter
58:57.840 --> 59:00.840
despite these connections with the Church of Satan
59:00.840 --> 59:03.840
the Manson case has been more often associated
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with the supposedly satanic cult
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known as the Process Church of the Final Judgment
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the process, seen here in a meeting in London
59:12.920 --> 59:15.920
was formed by ex-scientologist Robert de Grimsten
59:15.920 --> 59:18.920
and his wife Mary Anne in 1963
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at the center of the Processian philosophy
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was de Grimsten's concept of a reconciliation
59:24.920 --> 59:27.920
between Christ and Satan at the end of the world
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de Grimsten wrote
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Christ said, Love thine enemy
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Christ's enemy was Satan and Satan's enemy was Christ
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through love Christ and Satan have destroyed their enmity
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and can now be called the devil
59:42.000 --> 59:45.000
and come together for the end
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Christ to judge, Satan to execute the judgment
59:48.000 --> 59:53.000
certainly there are some similarities between the process ideology and Manson's
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yet when asked to clarify the rumors of a link
59:56.000 --> 59:59.000
he was evasive
59:59.000 --> 01:00:02.000
no, that's a bunch of horse shit
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:05.000
no, I don't, yeah, I know him, I know him spiritually
01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:08.000
I know everything, I know everything
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:11.000
yeah, yeah, I was in the same vibration
01:00:11.080 --> 01:00:14.080
I was in the same vibration as all those people
01:00:14.080 --> 01:00:17.080
in other words, you're with somebody, you know somebody, you know they're there
01:00:17.160 --> 01:00:20.160
you're running with them, oooooh, you know what I'm saying
01:00:20.160 --> 01:00:23.160
you're out in the bushes with them, and you're coyotes with them
01:00:23.160 --> 01:00:26.160
or you're spiritually allied with them in the scorpions
01:00:26.160 --> 01:00:29.160
or you're spiritually allied with them in the awareness
01:00:29.160 --> 01:00:32.160
the image of the process is a war-loving neo-Nazi death cult
01:00:32.160 --> 01:00:35.160
it was largely created by Ed Sanders
01:00:35.160 --> 01:00:38.160
in his book, The Family
01:00:38.160 --> 01:00:41.160
which led to a one million dollar lawsuit against him
01:00:41.160 --> 01:00:44.160
in fact, a thorough study of the process reveals them to be
01:00:44.240 --> 01:00:47.240
far more than a sophisticated kind of Jesus-freak cult
01:00:47.240 --> 01:00:50.240
more Christian than Satanic
01:00:50.240 --> 01:00:53.240
preaching a humanitarian fee
01:00:53.240 --> 01:00:56.240
far removed from their sinister reputation
01:00:56.240 --> 01:00:59.240
nevertheless, there are some undeniable facts
01:00:59.240 --> 01:01:02.240
The Family did for a time reside
01:01:02.240 --> 01:01:05.240
near Process headquarters on Cole Street
01:01:05.240 --> 01:01:08.240
in San Francisco
01:01:08.240 --> 01:01:11.240
Manson did contribute an essay to the Process magazine
01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:14.320
it is also alleged that two members of the cult
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:17.320
visited Manson in LA County jail
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:20.320
at the time of his trial
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.320
while Manson may be locked in prison
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:26.320
he claims to send his thought out into the world
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:29.320
to do his bidding in the form of these emissaries
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:32.320
made of string
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:35.320
these fetishistic snakes, spiders, scorpions and masks
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.320
have been sent by Manson to friends and enemies alike
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.400
along with instructions as to how to bring them to life
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.400
says their creator
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:47.400
I sit in my cell and sing and make little dolls on a string
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:50.400
and I send them out to do little jobs
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.400
I give them names, I give them a little personality
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:56.400
another occult figure linked to the Family
01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:59.400
is filmmaker Kenneth Anger
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:02.400
student of Alastair Crowley and an early member
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.400
of the Church of Satan
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:08.480
at the time Bobby Cupid Bosile
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:11.480
seen here in Haight Ashbury was Anger's protege
01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:14.480
Anger dubbed Bosile Lucifer
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:17.480
and starred him in that role in his ill-fated project
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:20.480
Lucifer Rising
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:23.480
when the two had a falling out, Bosile is reputed
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:26.480
to have stolen Anger's film and buried it in Death Valley
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:29.480
asking for a ransom
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:32.480
Anger is said to have replied by placing a curse
01:02:32.560 --> 01:02:35.560
after his incarceration for the murder of Gary Hinman
01:02:35.560 --> 01:02:38.560
Bosile composed a soundtrack for Anger's second version
01:02:38.560 --> 01:02:41.560
of Lucifer Rising
01:02:41.560 --> 01:02:44.560
seen here is Anger's stationery
01:02:44.560 --> 01:02:47.560
which still features artwork by Bosile
01:02:47.560 --> 01:02:50.560
Satan means whatever I'm looking at
01:02:50.560 --> 01:02:53.560
whatever I want it to mean
01:02:53.560 --> 01:02:56.560
it's on my forehead, it's me if I can get up on that highway
01:02:56.560 --> 01:02:59.560
it's me trying to save my air
01:02:59.640 --> 01:03:02.640
it's me trying to save my air, my water, my trees, my wildlife
01:03:02.640 --> 01:03:05.640
it's me on that camera man
01:03:05.640 --> 01:03:08.640
it's me right there in his watch, it's me in his brain
01:03:08.640 --> 01:03:11.640
it's me right there in his ears
01:03:11.640 --> 01:03:14.640
and when he shaves in the morning I'm sitting right up underneath his razor
01:03:14.640 --> 01:03:17.640
it's everything that human beings don't understand
01:03:17.640 --> 01:03:20.640
it's all their fears, it's what they're not sure of
01:03:20.640 --> 01:03:23.640
Satan to me would be God
01:03:23.640 --> 01:03:26.640
you would be God to me
01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:29.720
the sun is God, the moon is God, everything is God
01:03:29.720 --> 01:03:32.720
except those stupid fucking people who got that shit stuck up in their fucking heads
01:03:32.720 --> 01:03:35.720
and won't get rid of it
01:03:35.720 --> 01:03:38.720
in the name of the Lord
01:03:38.720 --> 01:03:41.720
if there was such a thing
01:03:41.720 --> 01:03:44.720
would he be the devil?
01:03:44.720 --> 01:03:47.720
if there was such a thing
01:03:47.720 --> 01:03:50.720
would he be the devil?
01:03:50.720 --> 01:03:53.720
I'm out there on the highway
01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:56.800
I'm out there on the highway
01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:59.800
I'm out there on the highway in Big Dragon
01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:02.800
in the underworld, I'm out there in Hawaii
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:05.800
I'm out there in all kinds of different things
01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:08.800
you might say I'm kind of like Satan
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:11.800
I'm in so many different places at once
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.800
yeah it would be like Satan, it would be very sharp
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.800
for one person to do all the things that I'm going to have to do
01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:20.800
to survive
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:23.880
in you, and in you
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:26.880
and in you
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:29.880
and in you too
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:32.880
Manson the revolutionary
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:35.880
has inspired extremists on both sides of the political spectrum
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:38.880
the left wing group
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:41.880
the weathermen, whose leader Bernardine Dorn proclaimed in 1969
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:44.880
the weathermen, whose leader Bernardine Dorn proclaimed in 1969
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:47.880
dig it, first they killed those pigs
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:50.960
then they ate dinner in the same room with them
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:53.960
then they even shoved a fork in a victim's stomach
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:56.960
the weathermen announced that 1969
01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:59.960
was officially the year of the fork
01:04:59.960 --> 01:05:02.960
in 1974
01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:05.960
an aborted plan to break Manson from prison
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:08.960
was concocted by Manson followers
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:11.960
in cooperation with the Symbionese Liberation Army
01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:14.960
at the opposite polarity
01:05:15.040 --> 01:05:18.040
Manson has served as the inspiration
01:05:18.040 --> 01:05:21.040
for such racist socialist factions
01:05:21.040 --> 01:05:24.040
as the Ohio-based Universal Order
01:05:24.040 --> 01:05:27.040
whose founder, James N. Mason
01:05:27.040 --> 01:05:30.040
created this flyer extolling Manson
01:05:30.040 --> 01:05:33.040
as an independent genius
01:05:33.040 --> 01:05:36.040
well as with all of us, my first
01:05:36.040 --> 01:05:39.040
awareness of Manson came in 1969
01:05:39.040 --> 01:05:42.040
with the so-called tape killings
01:05:42.120 --> 01:05:45.120
and I was a teenage kid sitting at home
01:05:45.120 --> 01:05:48.120
watching the news and the word flashed
01:05:48.120 --> 01:05:51.120
a bunch of Hollywood types had been
01:05:51.120 --> 01:05:54.120
killed out there presumably by hippie types
01:05:54.120 --> 01:05:57.120
and of course, being a national socialist in the 1960s
01:05:57.120 --> 01:06:00.120
I was highly anti-hippie
01:06:00.120 --> 01:06:03.120
but I was just as much anti-Hollywood
01:06:03.120 --> 01:06:06.120
and so the only thing that flashed across my mind then was good
01:06:06.120 --> 01:06:09.120
it couldn't have happened to a sweeter bunch
01:06:12.120 --> 01:06:15.120
the party leader, George Lincoln Rockwell
01:06:15.120 --> 01:06:18.120
spoke of his fervent belief in Manson's cause
01:06:18.120 --> 01:06:21.120
but it has to come from the people
01:06:21.120 --> 01:06:24.120
from the blood, and it's a fortuitous
01:06:24.120 --> 01:06:27.120
genetic combination as with Adolf Hitler
01:06:27.120 --> 01:06:30.120
who could have predicted Adolf Hitler
01:06:30.120 --> 01:06:33.120
and who could have predicted Charles Manson
01:06:33.120 --> 01:06:36.120
coming from
01:06:36.120 --> 01:06:39.120
what, a 16 year old runaway unwed girl
01:06:39.200 --> 01:06:42.200
in Kentucky, in West Virginia, no education
01:06:42.200 --> 01:06:45.200
and look at the impact he has today
01:06:45.200 --> 01:06:48.200
leader is a convenient term
01:06:48.200 --> 01:06:51.200
and so is family
01:06:51.200 --> 01:06:54.200
but we have to stay with what can be most readily understood
01:06:54.200 --> 01:06:57.200
Manson gave the people around him
01:06:57.200 --> 01:07:00.200
what they needed most
01:07:00.200 --> 01:07:03.200
this is what they accuse Hitler of doing
01:07:03.200 --> 01:07:06.200
in his speeches, touching every
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:09.280
wound in the raw
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:12.280
he can have an audience of 100,000
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:15.280
and reach every member of that audience
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:18.280
independently, separately
01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:21.280
and Manson did the same thing
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:24.280
Manson designed this logo for the universal order
01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:27.280
but clearly separates himself from the fray of left-right dichotomy
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:30.280
I wish you'd send James a copy of this
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:33.280
and tell him if he had them swords
01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:36.360
I'd just reach and take them swords
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:39.360
and break them and throw them down on his feet
01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:42.360
and I tell him now stand at attention when I'm talking to you
01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:45.360
that's where it comes from, it didn't come from no fucking book
01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:48.360
stand up or I'll knock your fucking brains out
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:51.360
handcuff the son of a bitch down there
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:54.360
and I'll show you how I interrogate the motherfucker
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:57.360
I'll interrogate you, I'll reach in your brain
01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:00.360
and pull your fucking soul out and throw it on the floor
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:03.440
and you're playing all that shit, they better get
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:06.440
they better get in line or get off the motherfucker
01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:09.440
you dig what I'm saying?
01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:12.440
As for Manson's revolutionary right wing cause
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:15.440
I believe that if Manson had wings
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:18.440
he'd have at least two of them
01:08:18.440 --> 01:08:21.440
and a substantial soul self in the center
01:08:21.440 --> 01:08:24.440
Indeed Manson's vision of order in the world
01:08:24.440 --> 01:08:27.440
surpasses any simple political solution
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.520
and Jackson wants to run to be president
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.520
man, you better hope somebody wants to be president
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:36.520
you dig what I'm saying?
01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:39.520
but who in the hell would want to be?
01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:42.520
can you conceive of what kind of brain would want to lead
01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:45.520
these fucking root scoops out there
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:48.520
cause there's no communication with them
01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:51.520
if you took a horse whip and beat them
01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:54.520
they still wouldn't understand what the hell you're talking about
01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:57.600
oh man
01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:00.600
yeah, you know
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:03.600
they'll pray for Hitler to come back
01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:06.600
they don't have the intelligence to change
01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:09.600
once you get them, they'll go, the rest of their life
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:12.600
they'll do that for a paycheck
01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:15.600
you tell them don't do that no more and they go
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:18.600
there's no communication, you tell them stop doing that
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:21.600
and they'll go, I said stop it
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:24.680
and you cut someone's fucking throat
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:27.680
and throw blood in their face and they'll go, huh?
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:30.680
you see what I'm saying? in other words, there's just no intelligence man
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.680
you don't have any hope for mankind
01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:36.680
not on that level
01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:39.680
not on that level I don't, no
01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:42.680
that's not mankind, that's not intelligence
01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:45.680
it's not even beast, they don't have the intelligence of a zoo
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:48.680
now they're all running from Jackson, right?
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:51.760
they're all making excuses
01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:54.760
they don't want to give him this driver's seat, do they?
01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:57.760
and I'm laughing, I'm laughing like crazy man
01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:00.760
because I think when he goes up there
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:03.760
and says, well now, what have we got here?
01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:06.760
he's going to find out he's got a fucking bunch of bullshit there too
01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:09.760
makes no difference what they call you
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:12.760
y'all call you the boo-skoo, you're the commander of man scam
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.760
you know, what does that mean? you still got to live with what you do
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:18.840
you dig?
01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:21.840
well
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:24.840
evil
01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:27.840
in order to put this world
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:30.840
into order
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:33.840
how much evil do you think would have to be?
01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:36.840
you see what I'm saying? in other words
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:39.840
just to think world peace
01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:42.840
up underneath these incompetent fucking assholes
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:45.920
they can't run these places, you dig what I'm saying?
01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:48.920
what kind of man
01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:51.920
you think would have that in his head?
01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:15.920
manson has often been compared to adolf hitler
01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:18.920
and asked whether he feels connected to the furor
01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:21.920
he answers
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:24.920
we all do, anybody that wants to put order into the world
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:27.920
anybody that's got a brain that wants to put order into the world
01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:30.920
has got to stumble upon hitler
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:33.920
because hitler started putting order into the world
01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:36.920
and when he started putting order into the world
01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:39.920
it threw him out, it overwhelmed him
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.000
it was too big for him, he couldn't do it
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:46.000
nowadays it's a different computer
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.000
if it's a different world, it's a different thought
01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:52.000
nowadays you don't need all that explosive power
01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:55.000
you can do it on your computers with your buttons and stuff
01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:58.000
with your aids and bays
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:01.000
with your biscuit and berets
01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:04.000
I just think he was throwing in his time
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:07.000
doing his trip for whatever
01:12:07.080 --> 01:12:10.080
you have to have a choice, once you get order in yourself
01:12:10.080 --> 01:12:13.080
then you've got to reach to order in your
01:12:13.080 --> 01:12:16.080
in your own household, in your own family
01:12:16.080 --> 01:12:19.080
in your own kin, in your own kind
01:12:19.080 --> 01:12:22.080
you've got to reach that order
01:12:22.080 --> 01:12:25.080
I can't go and tell this man something until I can tell me something
01:12:25.080 --> 01:12:28.080
if I'm right within me, then I can tell him what's right within what I think
01:12:28.080 --> 01:12:31.080
but each man has to be right within what he thinks, dig
01:12:31.080 --> 01:12:34.080
I can't make another man right
01:12:34.160 --> 01:12:37.160
with himself
01:12:41.160 --> 01:12:44.160
Manson also expresses a kinship to Rudolph Hess
01:12:44.160 --> 01:12:47.160
the occultist, ecologist and folk medicine student
01:12:47.160 --> 01:12:50.160
who served as Hitler's deputy
01:12:50.160 --> 01:12:53.160
Hess died under mysterious circumstances
01:12:53.160 --> 01:12:56.160
in Berlin's Spandau prison
01:12:56.160 --> 01:12:59.160
after decades of incarceration as a war criminal
01:12:59.160 --> 01:13:02.160
you remember when they had a harmonic conversion
01:13:02.240 --> 01:13:05.240
all the people was up on this mountain over here
01:13:05.240 --> 01:13:08.240
Hess died that night
01:13:08.240 --> 01:13:11.240
I am, I am
01:13:11.240 --> 01:13:14.240
Hess died that night
01:13:14.240 --> 01:13:17.240
when Hess died that night
01:13:17.240 --> 01:13:20.240
that put me longer in prison
01:13:20.240 --> 01:13:22.240
than anybody in the world
01:13:22.240 --> 01:13:25.240
Hess was always longer than me
01:13:25.240 --> 01:13:28.240
but when he died
01:13:28.240 --> 01:13:31.240
that put me the only living thing that was standing on that very same place
01:13:31.320 --> 01:13:34.320
that was standing on that very same thought that you and I are standing on now
01:13:34.320 --> 01:13:37.320
you see what I'm saying? In other words, we're still in that same dream
01:13:37.320 --> 01:13:40.320
we're still in that same thought and nothing can take that
01:13:40.320 --> 01:13:43.320
you can take my body away and stick it down in that cabinet
01:13:43.320 --> 01:13:46.320
it's still there, you dig what I'm saying? You cannot take it
01:13:46.320 --> 01:13:49.320
you dig what I'm saying? There's too many people that gave their lives for it
01:13:49.320 --> 01:13:52.320
they gave their lives and they're still bleeding there for it
01:13:52.320 --> 01:13:55.320
you dig? And the spirit is there
01:14:01.320 --> 01:14:04.320
are the true inheritors of the spirit of the shaven-headed girls
01:14:04.320 --> 01:14:07.320
that performed their sidewalk vigils
01:14:07.320 --> 01:14:10.320
during Manson's trial
01:14:10.320 --> 01:14:13.320
yeah, there's no order because
01:14:13.320 --> 01:14:16.320
incompetent assholes like this run your world
01:14:16.320 --> 01:14:19.320
these are the fucking ding-dings that run your world man
01:14:19.320 --> 01:14:22.320
look at him, fat hanging off his fucking jaws
01:14:22.320 --> 01:14:25.320
he's an incompetent piece of shit
01:14:25.320 --> 01:14:28.320
you think he'd wear black cowboy boots and play off this guy
01:14:28.400 --> 01:14:31.400
you dig what I'm saying? And then come back around on the other side
01:14:31.400 --> 01:14:34.400
and talk about, I'm a white guy, I'm a white brother
01:14:34.400 --> 01:14:37.400
you dig what I'm saying?
01:14:37.400 --> 01:14:40.400
what do I think about race? Everybody look out for themselves
01:14:40.400 --> 01:14:43.400
I look out for this guy, this is my race, comes out of my dickhead man
01:14:43.400 --> 01:14:46.400
my race comes out of me
01:14:46.400 --> 01:14:49.400
you know, where I'm running is, you know, I run in the alley
01:14:49.400 --> 01:14:52.400
I run in the darkness
01:14:52.400 --> 01:14:55.400
I was sitting up there where I had my fingers on the buttons
01:14:55.480 --> 01:14:58.480
and we played the game all together
01:14:58.480 --> 01:15:01.480
Charlie has been on the front lines of the ecological war since the 50s
01:15:01.480 --> 01:15:04.480
and he calls his vision for reordering the environment
01:15:04.480 --> 01:15:07.480
and the earth
01:15:07.480 --> 01:15:10.480
Atwa, air, trees, water, animals
01:15:10.480 --> 01:15:13.480
pollution, pollution, pollution
01:15:13.480 --> 01:15:16.480
it's the only solution for survival on the planet earth
01:15:16.480 --> 01:15:19.480
it's a revolution against pollution
01:15:19.480 --> 01:15:22.480
it's like all the animals are running this way
01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:25.560
and the lion comes on a picture, they all run that way
01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:28.560
all the animals are all divided all up
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:31.560
all the people are out there playing all these games
01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:34.560
the bigger fear comes, they all get together
01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:37.560
and they all run in one direction
01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:40.560
the peace plan
01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:43.560
is that Schultz and all them guys are playing in the Middle East
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:46.560
it doesn't have any fear in it
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:49.560
it doesn't mean anything, it's a bunch of fucking old assholes
01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:52.640
talking about old rhetoric
01:15:52.640 --> 01:15:55.640
the fear is you'll do it or die, it's that simple
01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.640
in other words, the ways that animals
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:03.640
I identify with more than I do with the ways that humans
01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:06.640
humans are pretty stupid, humans won't survive
01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:09.640
humans ain't gonna survive
01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:12.640
not the way they're going
01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:15.640
yeah, definitely, they're gonna destroy every fucking thing
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:18.640
they're destroying everything
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:21.720
you know, when you started thinking people
01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:24.720
it would take you ten weeks to think up 200 million people
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:27.720
you know how many people that is?
01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:30.720
now you run out of food with 200 million people
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:33.720
you run out of oil with 200 million people
01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:36.720
you run out of thought with 200 million people
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:39.720
you got a lot of meat there, that's a lot of meat to deal with
01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:42.720
I'm reaching for perfection
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:45.720
we all reach for perfection
01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:48.800
the fire, the water, the trees
01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:51.800
and the wildlife, and it goes beyond my physical
01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:54.800
you see what I'm saying? In other words
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.800
they can't understand, I've already gave this physical up man
01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:00.800
the physical is hanging down there on the courtroom
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.800
you know, if you want to interview me
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:06.800
why don't you go talk to the DA, maybe he can make up some more lies for you
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:09.800
some more stories for you
01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:12.800
and here's another thing that you people talk about
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.880
they run out and demonstrate for a nuclear power plant
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:18.880
and go home and turn the electricity on
01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:21.880
if you want to demonstrate for a nuclear power plant, don't use electricity
01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:24.880
does it make sense?
01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:27.880
they want to demonstrate for something on one hand
01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:30.880
and get their faces up in the camera
01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:33.880
and like, look at me, I'm different, you know, or pay me to be somebody
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.880
and then on the other hand, they can't be somebody
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:39.880
because they go home and turn the fucking electricity on
01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:42.960
you know what I'm saying? In other words, you can't protest cutting down trees with paperwork
01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:45.960
you can't protest pollution riding around in automobiles
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:48.960
I told you 40 years ago, get back to the horse man
01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:51.960
what's the best way to change things?
01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:54.960
get back to the horse, if you don't get back to the horse, there's going to be nothing left of you
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:57.960
now it's dawning in the minds of many
01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:00.960
it's dawning in the minds of chemistry
01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:03.960
it's dawning in the minds of biology
01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:06.960
and I've got seven big locks in my brain
01:18:07.040 --> 01:18:10.040
and then I send off to Norway
01:18:10.040 --> 01:18:13.040
and I send them a thought
01:18:13.040 --> 01:18:16.040
and it goes to Norway, and to chemistry
01:18:16.040 --> 01:18:19.040
and they're looking at their little things, you dig what I'm saying?
01:18:19.040 --> 01:18:22.040
and then I'm over here in Australia
01:18:22.040 --> 01:18:25.040
sitting on a bush man
01:18:25.040 --> 01:18:28.040
I don't need a telephone
01:18:28.040 --> 01:18:31.040
to communicate with that bush man
01:18:31.040 --> 01:18:34.040
you dig what I'm saying? That bush man is right inside my soul man
01:18:34.120 --> 01:18:37.120
I can hear everything, I can see through his eyes
01:18:37.120 --> 01:18:40.120
you see what I'm saying? It's like I am that bush man
01:18:40.120 --> 01:18:43.120
After Manson's imprisonment
01:18:43.120 --> 01:18:46.120
Lynette Fromm and Sandra Goode continued the fight for Ottawa
01:18:46.120 --> 01:18:49.120
Goode sent this manifesto to the Associated Press in 1975
01:18:54.120 --> 01:18:57.120
The International People's Court of Retribution is a wave of assassins
01:18:57.120 --> 01:19:00.120
It is made up of several thousand people throughout the world
01:19:00.120 --> 01:19:03.120
who love the earth, the children, the world
01:19:03.200 --> 01:19:06.200
and their own lives
01:19:06.200 --> 01:19:09.200
They have been silently watching executives and chairman of boards
01:19:09.200 --> 01:19:12.200
and their wives
01:19:12.200 --> 01:19:15.200
of companies and industries that in any way harm the air
01:19:15.200 --> 01:19:18.200
water, earth and wildlife
01:19:18.200 --> 01:19:21.200
They can be assassinated on the golf courses
01:19:21.200 --> 01:19:24.200
They move of their own accord
01:19:24.200 --> 01:19:27.200
Necessity dictates policy
01:19:27.200 --> 01:19:30.200
Exxon, ITT, Standard Oil
01:19:30.280 --> 01:19:33.280
Standard Oil, Union Oil
01:19:33.280 --> 01:19:36.280
Lumber Company executives, Golf Oil
01:19:36.280 --> 01:19:39.280
Must get out of the country or you'll be killed
01:19:39.280 --> 01:19:42.280
We want to live you maggots, you monsters
01:19:42.280 --> 01:19:45.280
Get out of the country or you'll be killed
01:19:48.280 --> 01:19:51.280
Manson rails against the money mind as one of his principal enemies
01:19:51.280 --> 01:19:54.280
666 is this dollar bill
01:19:54.280 --> 01:19:57.280
That's the body of the money
01:19:57.360 --> 01:20:00.360
The body of the people that work for the money
01:20:00.360 --> 01:20:03.360
Take that gold on that man's ring
01:20:03.360 --> 01:20:06.360
He works, how long did you work for that?
01:20:08.360 --> 01:20:11.360
2-3 weeks to get that ring
01:20:11.360 --> 01:20:14.360
And when he got that ring, puts it on his finger and he's ricing around
01:20:14.360 --> 01:20:17.360
And he doesn't know that he's holding up the very same value
01:20:17.360 --> 01:20:20.360
That's working his African brother to death
01:20:20.360 --> 01:20:23.360
And is starving somebody else down in the ground
01:20:23.360 --> 01:20:26.360
But he wears it on his finger like it was okay
01:20:26.440 --> 01:20:29.440
You think I wouldn't enslave anybody for a piece of gold
01:20:29.440 --> 01:20:32.440
That's stupid
01:20:32.440 --> 01:20:35.440
Anybody you see wearing gold
01:20:35.440 --> 01:20:38.440
They're enslaving somebody else with it
01:20:38.440 --> 01:20:41.440
But it's where their brain is and you can't get them out of it
01:20:48.440 --> 01:20:51.440
Much as simplistic historians have dismissed
01:20:51.440 --> 01:20:54.440
Hitler's Third Reich as the overcompensation
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.520
Of a failed artist, Manson's vision of a holy war
01:20:57.520 --> 01:21:00.520
Has been generally characterized
01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:03.520
As nothing more than the jealous rage of a spurned musician
01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:06.520
A would-be rock star with delusions of grandeur
01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:09.520
In fact, against all evidence
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:12.520
It is widely accepted that the overriding motive
01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:15.520
For the Tate murders was Manson's resentment
01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:18.520
Against Doris Day's record producer son
01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:21.520
Terry Melcher
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:24.600
According to this theory, Manson was so enraged
01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:27.600
That Melcher did not provide him with a record contract
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:30.600
He ordered his slavish minions to murder
01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:33.600
Everyone in the house he believed to be Melchers
01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:36.600
105-0, Cheyello Drive
01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:39.600
Melcher himself put the lie to this theory
01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:42.600
In a 1974 Rolling Stone interview
01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:45.600
Where he said that Manson knew
01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:48.600
Melcher did not live any longer at that address
01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:51.680
Because he had tried to get in touch with him
01:21:51.680 --> 01:21:54.680
Under friendly circumstances at his house in Malibu
01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:57.680
This image of Manson
01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:00.680
Desperate for big bucks and fame at any cost
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:03.680
Has also given rise to the lingering rumor
01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:06.680
That Charlie once went to a casting call
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:09.680
For the TV show The Monkeys
01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:12.680
Hoping to be cast as one of the Ursat's
01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:15.680
Edel imitators
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:18.760
The most impressive audition however
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:21.760
Is Manson was imprisoned in Terminal Island
01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:24.760
At the time of this casting call
01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:27.760
To imagine Manson attempting to fit his music
01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:30.760
Into the pre-packaged sterility of popular entertainment
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:33.760
Is absurd
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:36.760
The way I communicate is
01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:39.760
In music
01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:42.760
It's like to know someone
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:48.760
You can know me by the fingertips
01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:51.760
You can know me in my fingers
01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:54.760
You can know me in my hands
01:22:54.760 --> 01:22:57.760
You can know me in my arms
01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:00.760
You know in other words I'm something inside
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:03.760
That goes beyond words
01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:06.760
Words don't... words... you know
01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:09.760
They're a bunch of fucking biscuits
01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:12.760
That's what they teach you in school
01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:15.840
I can't make any music out of nothing
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:18.840
These motherfuckers cut me off from my music see
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:21.840
And then they represent off to the little girls
01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:24.840
Music is my soul
01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:27.840
Music is the way I express it's my religion
01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:30.840
You said sex is religion
01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:33.840
Yeah sex is a reflection
01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:36.840
Everything is a reflection of this
01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:39.840
When you reflect that you reflect music
01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:42.920
That's me
01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:45.920
But I put my soul into the sound
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:48.920
That's in my music see
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:51.920
But that's what they won't let me get out
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:54.920
And then every time they keep that music out
01:23:54.920 --> 01:23:57.920
Then all the kids rise up and they kill a bunch of people
01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:00.920
And then they say oh you're fucked up
01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:03.920
Why are we fucked up
01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:06.920
Who says you can put your music up over my music
01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:10.000
Who puts your voice up over my voice
01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:13.000
Who says your God's bigger than my God
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:16.000
You dig what I mean
01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:19.000
In other words it's just if you get down in the alley with it
01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:22.000
Whose dog's the biggest dog I'm the biggest dog
01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:25.000
When I'm out there in the street
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:28.000
It's like get on down the road and play my music
01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:31.000
See I play my music for... are you hot in here
01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:34.000
I play my music for me
01:24:34.080 --> 01:24:37.080
I play my music
01:24:37.080 --> 01:24:40.080
Manson began concentrating on the guitar in 1959
01:24:40.080 --> 01:24:43.080
When he was serving time with Alvin Creepy Carpus
01:24:43.080 --> 01:24:46.080
The last survivor of Ma Barker's gang
01:24:46.080 --> 01:24:49.080
The old con who had been
01:24:49.080 --> 01:24:52.080
Personally arrested by J. Edgar Hoover
01:24:52.080 --> 01:24:55.080
Taught the young Manson a few techniques on the steel guitar
01:24:55.080 --> 01:24:58.080
That were quickly worked into his repertoire
01:24:58.080 --> 01:25:01.080
In 1968 Manson and the family met the Beach Boys
01:25:01.160 --> 01:25:04.160
Seen here at a Halloween get together
01:25:04.160 --> 01:25:07.160
They admired Manson's music enough to record
01:25:07.160 --> 01:25:10.160
One of his songs, Cease to Exist
01:25:10.160 --> 01:25:13.160
Although they altered the lyrics to the more palatable
01:25:13.160 --> 01:25:16.160
Cease to Resist and retitled the song
01:25:16.160 --> 01:25:19.160
Never Learn Not to Love You
01:25:19.160 --> 01:25:22.160
The song can be heard on the Beach Boys 2020 album
01:25:22.160 --> 01:25:25.160
Because when I fell out of this penitentiary
01:25:25.160 --> 01:25:28.160
And I was playing my music
01:25:28.240 --> 01:25:31.240
You, Neil Diamond
01:25:31.240 --> 01:25:34.240
Buffalo Springfield
01:25:34.240 --> 01:25:37.240
I'm Beach Boys
01:25:37.240 --> 01:25:40.240
All them guys came to me, you dig
01:25:40.240 --> 01:25:43.240
And you said, how can you play this kind of music man
01:25:43.240 --> 01:25:46.240
We've never heard this kind of music before
01:25:46.240 --> 01:25:49.240
You know, and I said wow this is strange kind of music
01:25:49.240 --> 01:25:52.240
You know, and I said oh
01:25:52.240 --> 01:25:55.240
And they
01:25:55.320 --> 01:25:58.320
Stole from me
01:25:58.320 --> 01:26:01.320
And took it down and put it in whatever they did
01:26:01.320 --> 01:26:04.320
You dig
01:26:04.320 --> 01:26:07.320
Dennis Wilson, the Beach Boys drummer was particularly taken with the family
01:26:07.320 --> 01:26:10.320
And allowed them to inhabit his mansion for some time
01:26:10.320 --> 01:26:13.320
Wilson raved in one interview that he had a friend
01:26:13.320 --> 01:26:16.320
Who was a little like the devil
01:26:16.320 --> 01:26:19.320
Who liked to be called the wizard
01:26:19.320 --> 01:26:22.320
Sometimes he frightens me, Wilson admitted
01:26:22.400 --> 01:26:25.400
He was very grateful of the idea that his friends in the music industry
01:26:25.400 --> 01:26:28.400
Were of any help to him at all
01:26:28.400 --> 01:26:31.400
Ain't nobody ever try to help me do nothing man
01:26:31.400 --> 01:26:34.400
Nobody helps you, everybody wants to ride
01:26:34.400 --> 01:26:37.400
They talk about help, but there ain't no such thing
01:26:37.400 --> 01:26:40.400
You gotta help yourself
01:26:40.400 --> 01:26:43.400
Everybody that says they want to help you, you dig what I'm saying
01:26:43.400 --> 01:26:46.400
Everybody's, you know, we all hold a little
01:26:46.400 --> 01:26:49.400
And then we're just, who does it all balance off on
01:26:49.480 --> 01:26:52.480
The Beach Boys recording studios
01:26:52.480 --> 01:26:55.480
Manson recorded an album of songs on August 8th, 1968
01:26:55.480 --> 01:26:58.480
Exactly a year before the murders transpired
01:26:58.480 --> 01:27:01.480
The album was released as LIE
01:27:01.480 --> 01:27:04.480
After Manson's arrest
01:27:04.480 --> 01:27:07.480
He has since recorded other music
01:27:07.480 --> 01:27:10.480
Which has been smuggled out of prison and distributed to a few devotees
01:27:10.480 --> 01:27:13.480
Perhaps the ultimate myth relevant to Manson and music
01:27:13.480 --> 01:27:16.480
Is the fiction created by Vincent Bouliosi
01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:19.560
Stating that Manson believed the Beatles were sending secret messages to him
01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:22.560
On their white album
01:27:22.560 --> 01:27:25.560
I'm not of the 60s
01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:28.560
I'm not a generation of the 60s
01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:31.560
The 60s were little kids to me
01:27:31.560 --> 01:27:34.560
The Beatles were like punk rock is to you
01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:37.560
That's what the Beatles was to me
01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:40.560
That's not my era
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:43.560
My era was Bing Crosby
01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:46.640
I'm not a popper
01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:49.640
In a sense, Charles Manson the man no longer exists
01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:52.640
He has been replaced and transformed by the symbol
01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:55.640
Rather than the flesh and blood being
01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:58.640
The real Manson now resides in the imagination of the public
01:27:58.640 --> 01:28:01.640
Voracious for their next vicarious thrill
01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:04.640
As for the man himself
01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:07.640
He claims not to care how the media portrays him
01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:10.640
Fuck the people out there
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:13.720
I don't give a fuck whether they know anybody
01:28:13.720 --> 01:28:16.720
That don't know themselves don't know me
01:28:16.720 --> 01:28:19.720
I don't care about people
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:22.720
I'm looking out for this guy
01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:25.720
Right here
01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:28.720
What does that mean?
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:31.720
It doesn't mean anything
01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:34.720
Media is a rerun
01:28:34.720 --> 01:28:37.720
Public opinion is a little girl
01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:40.800
Reality is now
01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:10.800
Or the Christianized crocodile tear confessions
01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:13.800
Of Miss Atkins and her associates
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:16.800
The subject is more obscured than
01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:19.800
Illumined by this ever growing library
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:22.800
The self-proclaimed counterculture produced
01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:25.800
Many underground comic books dealing with Manson
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:29.800
Diverging in tone from the snide approach of R. Crumb
01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:34.800
To the preachy Legion of Charlies
01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:37.880
That compared the Mylie Massacre to the Tate murders
01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:40.880
It was inevitable that Manson should have become
01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:43.880
Grist for Hollywood's money mill
01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:46.880
For the most part he has been the stuff of low budget
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:49.880
Exploitation films which attempt to turn the case
01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:52.880
Into cheap horror taking morbid delight
01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:55.880
In the sexual and violent aspects of the cult
01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:03.880
Isn't it funny you got so many people play acting you
01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:06.960
So many people play acting you
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.960
You never get a chance to play act yourself
01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:12.960
Manson's filmic alter egos have ranged
01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:15.960
From a vampiric guru in Deathmaster
01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:18.960
To a rabid devil worshiper in
01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:21.960
I drink your blood
01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:31.960
Let it be known sons and daughters
01:30:32.040 --> 01:30:35.040
That Satan was an acid head
01:30:35.040 --> 01:30:38.040
Drink from his cup, pledge yourselves
01:30:38.040 --> 01:30:41.040
And together we'll all freak out
01:30:46.040 --> 01:30:49.040
A strange cinema reality link is this final scene
01:30:49.040 --> 01:30:52.040
From Sharon Tate's final film Thirteen Chairs
01:30:52.040 --> 01:30:55.040
Prophetically featuring a Manson doppelganger
01:30:55.040 --> 01:30:58.040
After this scene was filmed in Rome
01:30:58.040 --> 01:31:01.040
Tate returned to Los Angeles and her destiny
01:31:02.040 --> 01:31:05.040
Compared to the vision of bloodthirsty snuff guru
01:31:05.040 --> 01:31:08.040
So prevalent in the 70s Manson is increasingly presented
01:31:08.040 --> 01:31:11.040
In a lighter vein of recent date
01:31:11.040 --> 01:31:14.040
As this scene from a supposed comedy entitled
01:31:14.040 --> 01:31:17.040
Armed and dangerous reveals
01:31:18.040 --> 01:31:21.040
What are we to make of this subtle shift in perception
01:31:21.040 --> 01:31:24.040
If indeed the monster the media created
01:31:24.040 --> 01:31:27.040
Can be reduced to a slightly wacky figure of fun
01:31:27.040 --> 01:31:30.040
Perhaps there is a change in the zeitgeist
01:31:30.120 --> 01:31:33.120
Brewing
01:31:33.120 --> 01:31:36.120
The far-seeing journalist Wayne McGuire predicted
01:31:36.120 --> 01:31:39.120
In 1970 that someday in the future
01:31:39.120 --> 01:31:42.120
Charles Manson will be a major American folk hero
01:31:42.120 --> 01:31:45.120
While housewives may still shutter
01:31:45.120 --> 01:31:48.120
At tabloids such as these
01:31:48.120 --> 01:31:51.120
There are indications that Charlie is becoming a less
01:31:51.120 --> 01:31:54.120
Malevolent presence in the over soul
01:31:54.120 --> 01:31:57.120
Manson the commodity can be purchased not only
01:31:57.200 --> 01:32:00.200
In bookstores and video emporiums but in clothing
01:32:00.200 --> 01:32:03.200
Stores as well indeed one trendy shop in London
01:32:03.200 --> 01:32:06.200
Was named helter skelter
01:32:06.200 --> 01:32:09.200
A nightclub in Los Angeles also uses the name
01:32:09.200 --> 01:32:12.200
In 1987 the Piedmont candy company
01:32:12.200 --> 01:32:15.200
Released a short-lived deck of collector cards
01:32:15.200 --> 01:32:18.200
Called terrorist attack which features Manson
01:32:18.200 --> 01:32:21.200
In distinguished company
01:32:21.200 --> 01:32:24.200
John as Nile director of the cult favorite
01:32:24.280 --> 01:32:27.280
Manson's home movies a super eight extravaganza
01:32:27.280 --> 01:32:30.280
That documents the gorier elements of family history
01:32:30.280 --> 01:32:33.280
Offers an entire spectrum of Charlie
01:32:33.280 --> 01:32:36.280
Memorabilia to an ever growing market
01:32:36.280 --> 01:32:39.280
Of Manson files under the aegis of his Manson
01:32:39.280 --> 01:32:42.280
Archives
01:32:42.280 --> 01:32:45.280
At a recent satanic rally in San Francisco
01:32:45.280 --> 01:32:48.280
The film the other side of madness
01:32:48.280 --> 01:32:51.280
Was shown to an audience that cheered through the
01:32:51.360 --> 01:32:54.360
Re-enactment of the tape murders
01:32:54.360 --> 01:32:57.360
On the fringes of society there have been
01:32:57.360 --> 01:33:00.360
Small but serious efforts to rally public support
01:33:00.360 --> 01:33:03.360
For the cause
01:33:03.360 --> 01:33:06.360
A shadowy organization called the friends of justice
01:33:06.360 --> 01:33:09.360
Planned a series of concerts to raise legal funds
01:33:09.360 --> 01:33:12.360
For Manson at Manson's
01:33:12.360 --> 01:33:15.360
1989 parole hearing a group of
01:33:15.360 --> 01:33:18.360
Black clad protesters picketed from Manson's
01:33:18.440 --> 01:33:21.440
Release
01:33:21.440 --> 01:33:24.440
However if there is something new in the wind Manson
01:33:24.440 --> 01:33:27.440
Is indifferent this whole motherfucking attention
01:33:27.440 --> 01:33:30.440
Thing I don't need nobody's attention about nothing
01:33:30.440 --> 01:33:33.440
I can do what I do by myself I don't need
01:33:33.440 --> 01:33:36.440
Nobody I ain't looking for no followers
01:33:36.440 --> 01:33:39.440
I'm looking to survive and survival to me is out
01:33:39.440 --> 01:33:42.440
There in that desert running around with them wolves
01:33:42.440 --> 01:33:45.440
And coyotes and bugs and birds and good bushes and things
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:48.520
I don't want to get back on the ground with mine
01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:51.520
But now I can't get all these people that are trying to be
01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:54.520
And do like me you dig what I'm saying in other words
01:33:54.520 --> 01:33:57.520
Like I got all this fucking attention on me I got 900
01:33:57.520 --> 01:34:00.520
Million people you dig what I'm saying now how do I get away from them
01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:10.520
In the end Manson is only concerned
01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:13.520
With the unfathomable parameters of his own world
01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:16.600
His recurring fascination with reflection
01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:22.600
See the judgments are
01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:27.600
However I judge anything
01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:30.600
I'm judging it from what's inside of me
01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:33.600
However I see anything I'm seeing it from what's inside of me
01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:36.600
The man in the mirror
01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:42.600
I go beyond the man in the mirror
01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:45.680
Because I set the mirrors on the ends of your roads
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:48.680
But I set them
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:55.680
With these little nooses
01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:58.680
When your children come into me
01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:01.680
I hang them on the ventilators
01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:04.680
According to what I need to be
01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:07.680
And what I have to get done
01:35:07.680 --> 01:35:10.680
To weave my patterns
01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:13.760
And that's what I have to do to survive
01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:18.760
In the places where you know the pictures
01:35:18.760 --> 01:35:21.760
Where we live
01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:24.760
Everybody that thought that they're playing me
01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:29.760
I think they'll end up finding out
01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:32.760
That they got played by themselves
01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:35.840
Because we each get
01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:38.840
The guy in the mirror
01:35:38.840 --> 01:35:41.840
Could you look in the camera and tell people
01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:44.840
That they're going to see this
01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:47.840
Tell them who you really are
01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:50.840
Tell them who I really am
01:35:50.840 --> 01:35:53.840
I'm this hand here
01:35:54.840 --> 01:35:57.840
With no doubt
01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:00.920
Yeah
01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:06.920
Yeah I like that
01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:09.920
Yeah
01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:12.920
That shoulder there
01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:15.920
Yeah you look like a healthy young man
01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:18.920
I like you
01:36:18.920 --> 01:36:21.920
Well I can't talk to the people
01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:24.920
That's just an in...
01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:28.000
Well that's your reality
01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:31.000
You're the one that does that
01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:34.000
What do you have to say that you've never been able to say before
01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:37.000
You've been through a lot, haven't you
01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:40.000
Yeah
01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:43.000
Yeah that's good, that's why we probably meet
01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:46.000
As easy as we do, I feel real comfortable with you man
01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:49.000
That's good
01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:52.000
So what do you have to say that you've never been able to say
01:36:52.080 --> 01:36:55.080
What's your situation with that
01:36:55.080 --> 01:36:58.080
I'm going to survive
01:37:00.080 --> 01:37:03.080
If you do or not
01:37:03.080 --> 01:37:06.080
That's up to you, you dig
01:37:06.080 --> 01:37:09.080
But the only thing that keeps me
01:37:09.080 --> 01:37:12.080
From surviving is the people that don't want to survive
01:37:12.080 --> 01:37:15.080
So here's what I would say to all the people
01:37:15.080 --> 01:37:18.080
That have the death wish
01:37:18.080 --> 01:37:21.080
Why don't you go ahead
01:37:21.160 --> 01:37:24.160
And I'm going to tell you one way out
01:37:24.160 --> 01:37:27.160
Why come to me
01:37:27.160 --> 01:37:30.160
With all this dying and all this fear and all this bullshit
01:37:30.160 --> 01:37:33.160
I'm not into dying and fear, I'm into music
01:37:33.160 --> 01:37:36.160
I play music
01:37:36.160 --> 01:37:39.160
I ride my motorcycle around
01:37:39.160 --> 01:37:42.160
And I can play anything, any act
01:37:45.160 --> 01:37:48.160
I mean I'm playing them all, you know
01:37:48.240 --> 01:37:51.240
Does it matter
01:37:51.240 --> 01:37:54.240
I guess only to how much you're getting paid
01:37:54.240 --> 01:37:57.240
You know, who's paying you
01:37:57.240 --> 01:38:00.240
Or if your dollar's going to be worth anything
01:38:00.240 --> 01:38:03.240
To start with
01:38:03.240 --> 01:38:06.240
Or if you've got to give half of it to some Jew fucking bastard
01:38:06.240 --> 01:38:09.240
Who's doing nothing but laying up and sucking on what somebody else is doing
01:38:09.240 --> 01:38:12.240
In other words I can't get the maggots out of my brain
01:38:12.240 --> 01:38:15.240
Everywhere I look up man I've got these little fucking blood suckers
01:38:15.320 --> 01:38:18.320
And they want to just feed from me some more
01:38:18.320 --> 01:38:21.320
And I say good God man, ain't you fed on me enough
01:38:21.320 --> 01:38:24.320
Two thousand years I ain't made you fat enough to get off my fucking neck man
01:38:24.320 --> 01:38:27.320
You dig, who am I
01:38:27.320 --> 01:38:30.320
I'm anybody I can get away with being
01:38:30.320 --> 01:38:33.320
I'll take his clothes
01:38:33.320 --> 01:38:36.320
And put his boots on and get the hell out of here
01:38:36.320 --> 01:38:39.320
And walk on down the road and be a hobo
01:38:39.320 --> 01:38:42.320
If I had a good chance, I don't like killing
01:38:42.400 --> 01:38:45.400
I don't eat fishes, I don't kill trees, I don't eat animals
01:38:45.400 --> 01:38:48.400
I don't like killing
01:38:48.400 --> 01:38:51.400
But I'm just like anybody else
01:38:51.400 --> 01:38:54.400
I can, when I'm pushed to do that
01:38:54.400 --> 01:38:57.400
I can do that just as easy as
01:38:57.400 --> 01:39:00.400
As eating a piece of steak or cooking a chicken
01:39:00.400 --> 01:39:03.400
It all balances off on Rock Hudson to be the macho
01:39:03.400 --> 01:39:06.400
Until they find out that he's not really that
01:39:06.400 --> 01:39:09.400
Or to the Marine Sergeant who
01:39:09.480 --> 01:39:12.480
Can't say what he's doing in the locker room
01:39:12.480 --> 01:39:15.480
You know what I mean, I mean who carries the balance
01:39:15.480 --> 01:39:18.480
Of what the in-betweens are, you dig
01:39:18.480 --> 01:39:21.480
In other words am I a bitch, a homosexual, a punk
01:39:21.480 --> 01:39:24.480
Or am I a macho or a boo-goop or a flim-dim
01:39:24.480 --> 01:39:27.480
Or am I all things to all people in all ways
01:39:27.480 --> 01:39:30.480
Am I their death if they seek it too closely
01:39:30.480 --> 01:39:33.480
Am I their judgment if they find
01:39:33.480 --> 01:39:36.480
Harshness within themselves
01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:39.560
Or am I a benefactor if I've got
01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:42.560
In other words like what am I
01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:45.560
Or me, hell I don't make nothing happen
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:48.560
I just walk along with what's going on
01:39:48.560 --> 01:39:51.560
I mean make happen
01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:54.560
Well the same thing with you, in your world
01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:57.560
You know, you've made me happen
01:39:57.560 --> 01:40:00.560
I mean how can you say I make you happen
01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:03.560
When you've made me happen just as much as I've made you happen
01:40:03.640 --> 01:40:06.640
You put your thought into me
01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:09.640
You did what I'm saying?
01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:12.640
No, no, no, you put your thought into me
01:40:12.640 --> 01:40:15.640
You sent me this and you did that and you said so and so
01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:18.640
And you put such and such and I said oh this is what you see
01:40:18.640 --> 01:40:21.640
Man this must be, you know, wow, you know what I mean
01:40:21.640 --> 01:40:24.640
You know what I mean, in other words if that's what you see
01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:27.640
Then I'll meet you in that
01:40:27.640 --> 01:40:30.640
Yeah, that's beautiful
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:33.720
If I lived with you for about a month
01:40:33.720 --> 01:40:36.720
Or two, then you would have a whole
01:40:36.720 --> 01:40:39.720
Different concept of me
01:40:39.720 --> 01:40:42.720
You wouldn't think the same thing of me
01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:45.720
Your whole opinion of me would change
01:40:45.720 --> 01:40:48.720
Not only your opinion of me would change, your opinion of you would change
01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:51.720
And we would kind of reflect off into each other
01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:54.720
To where we become a part of
01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:57.720
And I'll walk up and down and tell you yeah this is me baby
01:40:57.800 --> 01:41:00.800
It's just a carbon copy reflection of
01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:03.800
You know, they won't let the reality of
01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:06.800
You've said that you're a reflection of everything around you
01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:09.800
Sure, what else could a child be?
01:41:11.800 --> 01:41:14.800
That goes into you
01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:17.800
You're going to reflect it sooner or later
01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:20.800
I'm going like this
01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:23.800
Pretty soon you're going to reflect that
01:41:23.800 --> 01:41:26.800
All children do
01:41:26.880 --> 01:41:29.880
Anybody that puts their life on the line for me
01:41:29.880 --> 01:41:32.880
I've always been right there with them
01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:35.880
Because I stay right there all the time
01:41:35.880 --> 01:41:38.880
I was born and raised there, I stay there all the time
01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:41.880
Constantly, I'm so much there, you dig what I'm saying?
01:41:41.880 --> 01:41:44.880
That Japan came over and said hello
01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:47.880
And I said hi, you dig?
01:41:47.880 --> 01:41:50.880
And anybody with any respect would respect me
01:41:50.880 --> 01:41:53.880
But any punk that don't have respect
01:41:53.960 --> 01:41:56.960
You dig? Then they treat me like the punk that they are
01:41:56.960 --> 01:41:59.960
In other words, they give me all their insecurity
01:41:59.960 --> 01:42:02.960
I can't see no mistakes
01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:05.960
I think the infinite wisdom of all things are perfect
01:42:05.960 --> 01:42:08.960
Even these guys
01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:11.960
Even though I don't agree with them, you dig?
01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:14.960
And I conflict with them and I argue with them
01:42:14.960 --> 01:42:17.960
And I struggle for the same thing they struggle for
01:42:17.960 --> 01:42:20.960
Profession
01:42:21.040 --> 01:42:24.040
They all lie
01:42:24.040 --> 01:42:27.040
The truth is that your history books are full of bullshit
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Most of your books are full of bullshit
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You know that, being a writer yourself
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How do you think people are going to remember you?
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I don't think they're going to be anybody to remember anything
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They're destroying everything
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They're destroying all the way back down to the cowards
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And the wolves, and the scorpions, and the bugs
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A few of us fake phony son of a bitch
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We're sitting over there looking at the thing saying
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That's an old rerunning of Mars or something
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I'm just checking that dude out man
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Cameramen have a way of hiding
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Yeah, yeah, yeah
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You know, are you Irish?
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Yeah, that's what I figured
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Ready complexion, right?
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Every time I get out of jail, I have a kid
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And then the broad ends up snitching on me
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Or getting me locked up
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And then she takes the kid on down the road
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And she raises him up to be like her
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And then I see him when he gets to be about 30 or 40 years old
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He's a little fat fucker
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He thinks just like his mother, you dig?
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So I see a bunch of little fat fuckers that think just like their mother
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Do you know if any of your children have followed in your footsteps?
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All my children
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And anybody that's ever seen me has followed in my footsteps
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How else could they do anything else?
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Should I explain that?
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Yeah
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It's a brand new step
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That's never been done
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It's history
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Every step I take now is history
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And I'm carrying 900 million people
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In my mind
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You see the Pope?
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He's a cigarette butt on the floor
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Now open up your mind into that
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See all the Orioles and the Dragons?
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All the tongs?
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See all the feathers?
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See the swastika spinning?
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You see it coming alive?
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In our minds as the youth
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You see that spirit coming back?
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You dig what I'm saying?
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It's coming back from the battlefields
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It's coming back, peace on earth
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Peace on earth
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And the peace on earth goes beyond that line
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And I put that line on the blind man's pole
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Then I run that down with some other soul
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And then I cut that on back with another track
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And come back and say, I know my mind
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And I trust the very same person that you do
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And the very same person that you do
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I trust the only person left to trust
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Me