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Do you guys belong on a death row or a
condemned row, if there is such a row?

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They belong in a place like this?

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If they've been convicted of murder and
killing?

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Most of the people in here are just your
reflections.

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They're your mistakes.

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As a collective society.

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Even though they have rebelled against that
society?

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They weren't born rebelling.

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They weren't born with the anger and
frustration that they have that had to be ...

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by somebody.

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They created them.

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It's as if your outside world programs people
into education and knowledge.

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The inside unprograms people to wisdom and
understanding.

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Well, it's sad all over really.

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You know, it's hard for me to express how
much sadness that I went through to reach

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this point of understanding that I am now
talking to you from.

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I learned something from everyone.

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The captains, wardens.

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I never missed anybody.

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I learned as much as I could from everybody I
could get a hold of.

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And I never met anybody that I couldn't learn
something from.

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But now that I have learned what I've
learned, I don't think you people want to...

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You wouldn't like it.

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Why?

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Well, because it's not very nice.

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Well, why?

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Because the people that you let run your
lives aren't very nice.

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The people that govern you, the people that
tell you people what to do, they're not go...

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Charlie Manson that you created, that's not
me.

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That's only an illusion in your minds.

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It hasn't got anything to do with me.

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I have many plans, a lot of plans.

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I'd like to clean up the water.

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I'd like to go up in the mountains and start
at the top of the mountains and clean the...

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Pick all the pollution out of the water so I
could drink it.

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Clean up all the green things and pick up all
the old beer cans and clean all the way to...

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And then maybe we might be able to save a
little air and water for our children.

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Because I'm living in my child's world now.

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I'm working on his world.

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My world already went to the gas chamber.

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If you hold the negative up to the light, you
don't see the light, you just see the...

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So I'm a reflection of your negative.

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There's no doubt about that.

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And I can handle that also.

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Pain's not bad.

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It's good.

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It teaches you things.

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That's the reason I like the desert.

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When I get out in the desert, then I can let
it out and say, if I see you within 50 mil...

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I used to love that desert.

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Out in the woods and things.

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I didn't know you could get out in the woods
for 30 years.

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How do you feel about spending the rest of
your life in prison?

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Well, we're all our own prisons.

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We each have our own wardens and we do our
own times.

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We used to get stuck in our own little trips
and we kind of judge ourselves the way we do.

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You know, I can't judge nobody else.

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The best thing I could do is try to judge
myself and live with that.

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You're scared to die?

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Sometimes I feel I'm scared to live.

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Living is what scares me.

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Dying is easy.

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Getting up every day and going through this
again and again is hard.

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I'm carrying heavy thoughts.

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The thought I'm carrying is very heavy.

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Do you read?

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No.

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Why not?

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Well, I found I can, I have more, my thoughts
are more interesting than anything I can...

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I'm afraid to do everything I see.

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Everything I know, everything I feel.

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Everything is love.

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There's nothing that isn't love.

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Even the confusion is love in one form or
another.

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It's misguided.

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Love is a word that we use to supplement for
God.

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Or I would like, I would rather use the word
intelligence.

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If you're going to use the word love, use the
word intelligence.

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Because love is misunderstood in so many
different ways and fashions.

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Do you need to be loved?

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I am loved.

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I am loved.

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Are you loved?

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I am loved.

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Are you loved?

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All the way.

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Okay.

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I'm around the world with it.

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Ain't you seen it?

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It's 15 times.

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I've been in the fire with it, man.

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My father died in the battlefield for my
rights.

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Then I go down to LA and some district
attorney wants to get rich and make a lot ...

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He's got something to sell and good.

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He dumps it over on me.

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It's okay.

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There's only one poor guy down here.

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He's nobody.

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I'm inside of you, man.

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I live inside of you.

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I'm inside every one of you.

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And to say that suggested what?

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You being evil is inside of all of us?

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No, it's life.

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Evil.

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It's beyond good and evil, man.

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It's a balance.

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It's aberraxas.

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Man died in the wars.

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Arlington Cemetery's got all the men.

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Two thousand years the man's been dying.

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It's all a reflection of mother.

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Well, when you're cutting the trees down,
you're taking my life.

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When you're polluting the water, you're
taking my life.

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The things that we do as human beings

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that are accepted and called right

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a hundred years ago

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have changed.

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Years ago, we could cut down trees

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and we could afford an exuberant lifestyle.

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We can't afford that no more.

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We're running out of atmosphere.

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We're running out of water.

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Our water's becoming so poisoned and so
polluted,

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we're not going to be able to drink it.

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The trees are being cut down so fast.

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Lumber companies are just...

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The United States is owned by foreign
corporations.

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Nixon opened it up for foreign trade.

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And when Nixon opened up for foreign trade,

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the people of Europe and the common market

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and Spain and different places,

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they don't care about the United States
forest.

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In short, the United States has been sold out

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by people who really don't care for anything
but money.

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I've had all the money in the world three
times.

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I had to give it back to keep the game going.

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What game?

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The game.

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It's a game.

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Money is a game.

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It's only real to the people who work for it.

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Life is God.

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All life.

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Bugs, birds, trees, everything that's alive
is God.

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The sun is God.

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But we've got God all the way on our cross.

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We've got a dying man all the way on our
cross

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and we're all kneeling down hoping that if we
die,

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there's a better place somewhere else.

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Well, you've got a whole bunch of people
hoping that they die

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creates a hell of a big energy.

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And I call it a death wish.

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It's mother's death wish.

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It's what everybody's going towards dying,

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like the Vietnam War when they wanted to blow
the world up.

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And what have you got to do with God once
again?

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I'm just a messenger of the truth.

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God's messenger?

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Life's messenger.

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We use the word God.

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God hooks all the other words up.

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I'm the Pope.

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I'm ten times the Pope.

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I'm fifty times the Pope.

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But I'm the Pope in the hills and in the
mountains.

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I'm already out of here.

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This enclosure here, I'm out of here.

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My body is stuck here, but my thought is
already gone.

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Right or wrong, I don't judge.

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That's what they got guys in robes for.

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They judge.

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Isn't it funny, while you would get Amnesty
International

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to take millions of dollars from the United
States

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to help prisoners out of jail in other
countries,

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when you've got political prisoners right
here in the United States

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that you're overlooking, that you won't
accept,

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you've got people all over this country that
are in here for political reasons.

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But you want to make us criminals and crimes,
say we're all crooks.

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Now you run out of food with 200 million
people.

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You run out of oil with 200 million people.

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You run out of thought with 200 million
people.

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You've got a lot of meat there, man.

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That's a lot of meat to deal with, Jay.

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And Jackson wants to run to be president.

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Man, he better hope somebody wants to be
president.

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You dig what I'm saying?

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But who in the hell would want to be?

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Can you conceive of what kind of brain would
want to lead these fucking root scoops out...

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You know, I can't go over and tell this man
something until I can tell me something.

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If I'm right within me, then I can tell him
what's right within what I think.

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But each man has to be right within what he
thinks, dig.

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I can't make another man right.

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The other man got to be right with himself.

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Take that gold on that man's ring.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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He's got to be right with himself.

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I don't slay nobody for a piece of gold.

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If I dig a foundation for a house, somebody
else will stand on it and say,

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yes, this is my foundation here.

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In other words, in the United States, when
you're running the United States,

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you ain't running nothing but con, nothing
but bullshit, and nothing but devil.

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You're running nothing but demon.

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The United States of America is the demon of
the world.

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He's the Satan of the world.

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I was even born into the universe in the
perfection of that.

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I was born 111134.

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I'd rather be a coyote in the desert, but
I've got to play at this goddamned human...

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this form that I'm in, and I can play
anything, any act.

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I mean, I'm playing them all, you know, but
which one ain't an act?

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I don't know.

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I told you, see, nothing I do is right, man,
unless I stay in a cell.

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They crowd me and I've got this little space.

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My life is bigger than this little space.

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I live in the desert. I live in the
mountains, man.

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I'm big. My mind is big.

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But everybody's trying to cry me down and
push me down

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and make me into all these little things that
they need me to be,

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and that's not me at all, man.

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That's not me.

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The way you go to court, they need a
conviction.

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They need criminals, man.

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They need people to lock up in cages.

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If they didn't have people to lock up in
cages, man,

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they wouldn't be able to sell more fear to
the public.

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And they sell more fear to the public, and
all the old women,

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they love to buy that fear.

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Have you heard any positive thoughts of
Charlie Manson?

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Positive what? Oh, come on, man, you didn't
complete the other thought.

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Positive to Charlie Manson, I'm both negative
and positive.

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Are you good and evil?

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I'm everything.

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You're evil?

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I'm everything, man.

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How do you feel about the fact that you're
going to spend the rest of your life there?

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The rest of my life where?

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Right here.

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You guys are, boy, you've got to live in a
thousand illusions, man.

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The rest of your life where?

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In prison.

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In prison.

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What prison?

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You've got a prison in your mind.

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You see what I'm saying?

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You're in prison, son.

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You're the one that's in jail because you
think there is such a thing as a prison.

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When you think I lie, then that's because
you've got a lie in your heart.

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And then you come back and say you've got
heart,

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but you've got no heart without with lie.

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The lie beats, your heart beats in the truth,
man.

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You see what I'm saying?

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In other words, if you're lying, you're not
lying to nobody but yourself.

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Nobody else cares.

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I was the only guy that cared.

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I was the one that picked the kids up out of
the streets and gave them a little place t...

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Should you be in prison at all?

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Should you have been in prison?

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Well, see, starting with prison was
originally started as a farm.

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And if you liked the person that came in your
courtroom,

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you gave them another chance to be reborn and
enter into a right way of life.

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Prison was not built to punish people.

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It was built to help people.

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That's why they're called peace officers.

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But sadistic ding-dongs got in there and
wanted to make it into the shadows of what...

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And the incompetent and the inadequate need
to punish someone so they feel better.

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So it's like in reform school, they used to
lay me down and beat me with leather strap...

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And I used to think, what did I do wrong?

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And for years I would think that I was wrong,
that I did something wrong,

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and then I seen it wasn't that I did anything
wrong.

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They beat me so they show the next kids now
what not to do.

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So, you know, in other words, my prison is
the mind.

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Most of the people that work in the prison
are more in prison than the people they've...

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They've just got their kids in prison.
They've got the poor people in prison.

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They've got people that have no money in
prison.

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I don't understand what prison is anymore.

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A young kid walking down the street, a cop
comes up to him and says,

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shines a flashlight in his face, says,

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hey boy, up against the wall over there.

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And scared the kid.

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He gets up against the wall, he says,

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what are you doing out here?

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It's after 10 o'clock at night.

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You out here burglarizing stores?

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No, sir. I'm not burglarizing stores.

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The cop is a rookie cop and he doesn't
realize what he's doing

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if he's programming this young mind to
burglarize stores.

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Being a juvenile delinquent, I went through
that and I burglarized stores

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and ended up in reform school.

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That way I figured out why that happens that
way.

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The cop is practicing his procedure.

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So they come to the ranch and they raid the
ranch.

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And they say, are you causing trouble,
Manson?

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And I say, you can't call me up for that.

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No, I'm not causing trouble and you're not
programming my mind in no trouble either.

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Fear don't work on me anymore.

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You can pile 10 dead bodies up there and
bleed all day.

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It don't bother me a little bit.

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Let me say this to all of you guys, man.

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The soul moves things beyond our
comprehension.

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We can't blame one human being for the Second
World War.

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We're to keep blaming Hitler.

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Hitler was just one particular person that
was picked up and thrown off into the world.

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I'm a perfect servant.

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I serve you perfect and then you say I'm
wrong.

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I don't say you're wrong, but who does,
Charlie?

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The poor world keeps telling me that I'm
wrong because I can't fix their world for...

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They keep wanting me to fix their world in
handcuffs.