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The video you're about to see is a very, very important interview.
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I did it back in 1980, in June of 1980, with Antony Sutton.
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And, of course, Antony had been a scholar at the Hoover Institute for really many, many years.
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And while he was there, he wrote the three volumes of Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development.
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He wrote his book, National Suicide, and these books run into the background of the funding of the Soviet Union from its inception,
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and, of course, his book, National Suicide.
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It went into the fact that America was financing the Soviet Union all during the Vietnam War,
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while the Soviet Union was financing the North Vietnamese, who were killing our boys in South Vietnam.
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In fact, everything was done to prevent Professor Sutton from either publishing the third volume of Western Technology or his book, National Suicide.
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Tremendous pressure was brought to bear on his publisher so that National Suicide could not be brought out.
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So the American people were not to know that during the Vietnam War, we were financing indirectly the North Vietnamese.
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Well, let me just show you a few of the books that Professor Sutton has written.
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And these would include, of course, the Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street and FDR,
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Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, and, of course, National Suicide.
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He's probably written at least ten other books, including The Federal Reserve Conspiracy, The Trilateralists Over Washington, volumes one and two.
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He's written extensively on the Skull and Bone Society, on gold, on diamonds.
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Certainly, Anthony Sutton is one of the finest writers that we have within the conservative movement today.
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And for the last 20 years, he hasn't been doing interviews.
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I've contacted him a number of times, asked him to do radio interviews with me, but he is unavailable.
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I think that you're going to find that this interview will explain to you who it was who financed Adolf Hitler and gave him the capability of waging war against the West,
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who it was who financed the Bolshevik movement after it was established in 1917 and kept it going until the Berlin Wall came down in 1989.
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You're going to learn about the Trilateral Commission.
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You're going to learn about who controls the media in the United States.
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Indeed, who is the invisible government and what the ultimate goal of that invisible government is,
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and why that invisible government financed Adolf Hitler and finances communism and has financed communism since its inception.
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And now to Anthony Sutton.
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Dr. Sutton, you wrote three series of books while you were a research fellow at the Hoover Institute.
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Can you give me basically the background of the content of these series?
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Yes, the series I wrote at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, concerned the transfers of Western technology to the Soviet Union
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and essentially comprised three individual books. Each book covers a period of time since 1917.
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And then you wrote a second series of books on Wall Street.
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Yes, these were trade books. In other words, they're not academic books. They're written for the general public.
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They concerned the buildup of the three types of socialism, Bolshevik socialism in Russia, what we might call welfare socialism in the United States,
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and Hitlerian or national socialism. And each book examines the financing and the contributions made by Wall Street, by international bankers,
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to the development of that specific form of socialism.
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Now, in your research and analysis and your efforts to bring out the facts about what was going on in our society,
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did you encounter any effort to discourage you, to prevent you from bringing out the background of America's involvement in the financing of international communism?
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Yes, very definitely. For example, when I was at the Hoover Institution in 1972, I went to Miami Beach to give some testimony before the Republican National Committee.
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And although a congressman had hand-delivered to the wine services this testimony, which was later printed, the wine services refused to transmit it to the newspapers.
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Then when I got back to the Hoover Institution in California, I was called into the office of the director, and I was told in no uncertain terms not to make any more speeches like that,
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and that this information should not be made public.
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This was the information that we were giving the Soviet Union the technology to develop its war potential?
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Oh, yes. At that time, we were in Vietnam, and as you know, the Soviets were supplying the North Vietnamese.
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This was 1972?
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1972, yes. And for example, I knew that the Gorky Plant, which was built by the Ford Motor Company, the Gorky Plant in Russia produces the gas series of vehicles.
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The gas vehicles had been seen on Ho Chi Minh's trail. We were supplying equipment to the Gorky Plant in the middle of the Vietnamese war,
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and these trucks were being used to carry ammunition supplies, which were killing Americans. I thought this was morally wrong, and I said so in Miami Beach and at the Hoover Institution.
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And it was this type of information that was suppressed.
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And so what eventually happened as far as your activities at the Hoover Institution were concerned?
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Well, I didn't pay much heed to the warnings. I published a book called National Suicide in the following year, which summarized our assistance to the Soviets, our military assistance to the Soviets.
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And when that book came out, again, there was great pressure to stop the book, both the publishers and me personally.
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And I felt I couldn't take this, and a few years later, I just left the Hoover Institution. Since 1975, I've been an independent author without any ties whatsoever.
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Let's go a little bit into the background of the financing of the German war machine that we fought in the period 1941 to 1945.
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Could we start, first of all, with the original financing of Hitler between 1922 and 1923, when he was first making his effort to come into prominence in Germany?
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The original financing of Hitler in the years 1922 came only partly from Germany.
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One of the most prominent Americans concerned with financing Hitler was Henry Ford.
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In fact, Henry Ford received a medal in 1938 for his assistance to the early Nazi Party.
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Then, of course, Hitler had his attempted push in 1923. He went to jail, and then we begin another era in the rise of Hitler.
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Right. And, of course, he eventually came to power in 1933 by the electoral process.
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What about the financing of Hitler's electoral activities in 1933?
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This I can trace. I have traced it very exactly.
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I discovered amongst the Nuremberg records a series of bank transfer slips to the Dauberg-Schickler Bank in Berlin, to an account which was under the control of Rudolf Hess.
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And this was the fund that was used to finance Hitler's access to power in March 1973.
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And amongst the corporations that transferred money to Hitler, I find not only R.G. Farben, which is quite widely known, but also German General Electric, A.E.G., which is under the control of General Electric in the United States, or was at that time.
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And companies like Osram and...
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Now, what was the tie-in between Osram and General Electric?
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The tie-in was a share tie-in. International General Electric in the United States had controlling interest in German General Electric, and also through share interlocks, a controlling interest in Osram in Germany.
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So then we have Ford, and we have General Electric helping to finance Adolf Hitler's rise to power. Were any other large American corporations involved?
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Very definitely. Standard Oil, through its technical association with I.G. Farben, for example, Germany could not have gone to war in 1939 without tetraethyl.
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You need tetraethyl to raise the octane value of aviation gasoline. Germany had no means of doing that.
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This was developed in the ethyl laboratories in the United States and transferred to the Germans. Standard Oil came up with the hydrogenation idea, which was very essential for Germany in the 1930s, because to raise the quality of its gasoline for aviation purposes, this was transferred to the Nazis.
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And ITT, for example, International Telephone and Telegraph, was very intimately associated with the Nazis through Dr. Schroeder, who was head of the ITT subsidiaries in Germany. And ITT controlled companies which made not only electrical instruments, but also the Focke-Wulf plant, which made fighter airplanes.
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So what you're suggesting then is that American corporations were helping to finance the German industry that was building up the war potential?
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American corporations, only a few, not many, financed Hitler through their subsidiaries. They transferred technology, they transferred material assistance, for example stocks of tetraethyl, before the Germans could manufacture it under the joint manufacturing agreement with the United States.
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And also they financed this. For example, Standard Oil financed in 1933 the development of the gasoline industry in Germany, which was needed to fight World War II.
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And that's a very interesting point. Could you go a little bit into the background of where Germany got its oil to fight the Second World War? Because certainly Germany doesn't have oil resources.
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Germany does not have oil resources, that's true. It used in World War II synthetic oil, which it got from coal. And the basic technical processes for the development of oil from coal came from the United States, from essentially from the Standard Oil laboratories, which had this technical assistance agreement with IG Farben.
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And of course IG Farben contributed something like 60% of the explosives needed by the German Wehrmacht, probably about 40-50% of the gasoline needed by the Wehrmacht and by the German Air Force, Luftwaffe.
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And was there a definite interlock between IG Farben and Standard Oil?
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The interlock was at the technical level, the exchange of patents. It was through a financial-technical assistance agreement. There were other interlocks with the United States, through subsidiary IG Farben in the United States. But with Standard Oil, the interlocks were at the technical and financial level.
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And is it a fact, it's been stated, that there were members of the board of directors of Standard Oil who were also on the board of directors of American IG Farben?
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Yes, Walter Tiegel is one, the name that comes to mind. There were several, there were several directors.
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Was there an interlock with Ford between IG Farben and American IG Farben and the Ford Motor Company?
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Not that I can recall, not offhand.
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So basically what we're seeing then is American industry helping to provide the technology, helping to provide the finance, helping to provide the material that is going to allow Hitler to create his war machine.
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Yes, that is correct.
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Now, in your book, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, you talked about the bombing patterns during the Second World War. And the fact that it was amazing that there were certain factories that were not bombed, whereas the majority of the German factories were decimated, German-owned factories. There were certain factories that tied into this interlock we've already alluded to that for some strange reason seemed to escape the devastation of our saturation bombing.
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In World War II, the German electrical industry was or should have been a prime target for Western bombing. But in practice, the German General Electric plants were not bombed. Of the ten major plants, not one was bombed and half a dozen others had trifling damage, broken windows, that kind of thing.
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So what we have here is a very interesting case of an industry which should have been bombed in World War II, but was not bombed. And yet we have a market ownership which raises a certain amount of suspicion as to why it was not bombed.
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But as far as the German-owned electrical companies, did they undergo a rather heavy bombing?
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I took a look at that. The Siemens plant, for example, they were bombed. There's no question. But the industry was not targeted as a general target. So Siemens, for example, was not bombed as heavily as, say, tank plants or aviation plants, that kind of thing.
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You mentioned the Ford plant in Cologne. Was this a prime military target?
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The Ford plant in Cologne should have been a prime military target. For example, the British Air Force, the Royal Air Force, did bomb the Ford plant at Poissy in France. But the Ford plant in Cologne, which was by far the largest Ford plant in Germany, was not bombed in World War II.
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But did our military planners intend to bomb it? In other words, was it on the aiming report?
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Well, I did look at the aiming reports for the plants in Cologne. Ford was known about. They knew that it was producing equipment for the Wehrmacht. But it was not bombed. It was scheduled as a target, but it was not bombed.
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So somewhere along the line, as far as the planning was concerned, the name of the Ford Motor Plant in Cologne was deleted, and yet the city of Cologne itself was totally decimated.
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The city of Cologne was decimated, as of course many other cities in Germany were decimated. But somewhere along the line, something happened. I suspect it was in the aiming committers. And without question, orders were sent out not to bomb certain targets, even though these were prime military targets.
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And that's rather reminiscent of some of the orders that went out during the Korean War, some of the orders that went out during the Vietnamese War, to leave specific targets within the enemy's domain, untouched by our strategic bombing.
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I understand that was so, although I've not investigated it.
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Now, in your book, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, there was one very interesting section about a special fund that Heinrich Himmler had, and the funding of money from German corporations into this fund, even up into the years 1943 and 1944.
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And many of these corporations had strong ties into the American corporations, into the American parent corporations. Could you tell us a little bit about the Kepler Fund?
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The Kepler Fund was also known as the Konto S Fund. It was what we might call Heinrich Himmler's personal slush fund. He used it for his own personal projects.
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And what amazed me was both in 1933 and in 1944, the two days, the two years for which I examined the records, over half the funds came from American corporations.
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For example, in 1933, ITT, Standard Oil, General Electric, and possibly AusRAM were contributors. Even in 1944, in the middle of World War II, we find that ITT was funding funds to Heinrich Himmler's fund through Schröder, who was the chairman of the ITT subsidiaries in Germany.
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We also find that DEPAG, the Standard Oil subsidiary in Germany, was financing Heinrich Himmler. And this was in the middle of World War II.
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Now, were these facts ever brought out at the Nuremberg hearings?
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They were never brought out at the Nuremberg hearings, although the documents do exist within the files, within the records. They have not been published, as far as I know.
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And you actually have access to these records?
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Yes, there are some 400 tons of these records available, and many of them were at the Hoover Institution, or copies were at the Hoover Institution, and that's where I found the original documentation.
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I think it's a tragic part of our history when the American public doesn't realize the interplay then between great American corporations and the financing, the funding of the Nazi movement.
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Now, I wanted to talk just a little bit about the Nuremberg trials, because of the Nuremberg trials, the Nazis, the Nazi war criminals, the Nazi generals were held specifically guilty for what transpired.
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Were there any Americans involved? Were any Americans indicted? Were any Americans convicted as far as the financing of the Nazi war movement?
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Very definitely not. I looked at the criteria for what we might call war crimes under the Nuremberg Tribunal, and there's no question in my mind that certain Americans well fitted the criteria, which required indictment and trial. But no Americans were ever brought to trial.
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Do you think there was any conscious effort to conceal this fact, both from the Nuremberg war tribunal and from the American public?
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Well, there was a conscious effort in the fact that these businessmen were very prominent in stating in 1946 that they had no knowledge of what Hitler was doing, and yet they were intimately involved with the buildup of Hitler.
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I suspect that this was not published in the media at the time, although I've not checked that. But certainly the role of American corporations and American businessmen in aiding Hitler has not been published.
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Now, what about the actual financing? What about the loans from large American banks, from large British banks, to Hitler's government in that period between 1933 and 1939, when Hitler was preparing for war?
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Well, you've got to go back a little earlier and look at what are known as the Young loans, which were very important because I think they brought about the economic collapse of Germany in 1933.
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That was the Young plan.
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This was Owen Young, who was of course chairman of General Electric. Here we've got a man who actually made the loans as an officer of the United States government, which brought about the collapse of Germany in 1933, enabling Hitler to take over.
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And then subsequent to 1933, you get a series of loans, a very good one is Standard Oil, which loans several million dollars, at least, to Germany to build up its aviation gasoline facilities and the other examples.
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Fine. Well, I'd like to get a little bit into the background of the financing of Bolshevism because I think this is vitally important.
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And we can go back to the period after the second revolution, which was in October and November of 1917, the initial financing of Lenin's movement.
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How did it tie into the American corporations? Was there any American involvement in that period between 1917 and 1918 when Bolshevism was just beginning to get a foothold in Russia?
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Yes, there were several incidents.
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The most important is one involving Colonel William Boyce Thompson, who was the largest shareholder in the Chase Bank, which of course today is Chase Manhattan Bank.
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And I published in one of my books a copy of a cablegram, which transferred funds from New York to Petrograd in December 1917.
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One million dollars, to be precise. And Colonel Thompson made the statement later that this one million dollars was given to the Bolsheviks to consolidate, that they had just begun to take over Russia.
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They only controlled Moscow and Petrograd at that time to aid the control that the Bolsheviks were extending in Russia.
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This is a very clear case. One million dollars, American funds, transferred through an American Wall Street intermediary to the Bolsheviks.
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And didn't you publish that document here in Wall Street in the rise of Bolshevism?
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I published two statements. One is a copy of the cablegram and the other is a copy of the news clip of the statement made by Colonel Thompson at that time that he had given main discontent.
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Now why would an American capitalist, an American financier, help to aid Bolshevism?
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The only answer, and of course this puzzled me for years, you know, why, why, because we understand there to be an opposition.
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And the only answer I can come to is one of captive markets. The United States did not want another United States in the world.
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And of course if you look at the world map, Russia is two or three times larger than the United States.
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Imagine this as another United States, as another competitor to the United States.
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What the United States wanted, or Wall Street wanted, was a captive market.
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And of course socialism is a captive market because my earlier studies at Stanford University have brought out the fact that a social system cannot innovate.
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It's going to import innovation and technology from the West.
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And so I think the aim behind this was to encourage the development of Marxism and other types of socialism because this would give these Wall Street bankers control of a world market, a captive market.
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At the end of the First World War, Russia was devastated by famine.
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And America sent a relief mission. It was the Hoover mission.
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Do you know any of the facts surrounding the activities of the Hoover Commission?
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Well, there's no question that in 1922, 1923, Russia was finished.
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Industrial output was perhaps eight or ten percent of 1913 figures.
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And people were starving by the hundreds of thousands.
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And the Hoover mission was organized, of course, to send aid to Russia.
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But most of the aid went to the Bolsheviks, who controlled really quite a small part of Russia at that time.
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Only a very small part of the aid went to the White Russians or to the Far East.
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And then after 1922, 1923, Lenin instituted something known as the New Economic Policy, or this series of five-year plans.
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Can you tell us about the five-year plans and the part that the major American corporations, major world corporations played in building up the Soviet Union?
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Well, there are two separate phases here.
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The New Economic Policy was started in 1923 by Lenin.
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And I found, and I published this in my first book from Stanford, that every single Russian industry was rebuilt or restarted by foreign corporations,
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mostly German, British, French, and American.
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By 1928, Russia was back to approximately its 1913 industrial output.
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And at that point, you should begin to think of these grandiose five-year plans.
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And in 1928, the Gosplan, which is the Russian government planning commission, actually designed an initial five-year plan.
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But this was thrown out, it was inadequate, and American corporations were built in, were brought into Russia.
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And the first five-year plan and the second five-year plan were actually designed in the United States by American corporations.
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And what were these corporations, which ones specifically were involved?
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The design of the first five-year plan was by a corporation probably not known to most Americans, Albert Kahn.
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But Albert Kahn was the foremost industrial architect in the United States.
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And Albert Kahn laid out the basics of the first five-year plan for the Soviets.
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And then we find, again, the same corporations involved with the construction of the plants.
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International General Electric, certainly, DuPont, Ford Motor, Hercules Motor, Curtis Wright in aircraft engines,
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and even some corporations which today were forgotten about like Valti and Chance Vought.
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These were aircraft manufacturers at that time.
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And so American corporations came in and they built the first five-year plan.
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But what was important, the Soviets then copied these plans, and this accounts for the tremendous Russian output.
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They took this initial equipment and they multiplied it, they copied it by the hundred.
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Now how about Ford Motor Company? Did they play a part in the building up of the Soviet potential?
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Very definitely. Ford Motor Company built the Gorky Plant.
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And the Gorky Plant produces the gas series of vehicles, that's GAZ.
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And these are trucks and there's some automobiles.
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And right from the early 1930s you find that the gas plant has had military potential.
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And Ford knew that when it went in and built the Gorky Plant.
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And we know it because I found statements to this effect within the State Department files.
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Sometimes we hear the name Averill Harriman. Did he play a part in building up the Soviet technology?
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Very definitely. In fact, Averill Harriman came out of the Soviet Union financially out of profit.
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He took over the Georgian-Manganese concession in the early 1920s.
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He got this back on his feet for the Soviets.
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And Manganese became a prime export for the Soviets.
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And so they were able to sell this aboard, get foreign exchange, which financed the industrialization.
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And then they bought out Harriman about 1929.
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And Averill Harriman received his compensation, one million dollars more than he put in in the first place.
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How about Armand Hammer of Occidental Petroleum?
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Armand Hammer is a very interesting example.
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Armand Hammer received the first foreign concession in 1922 in Asbestos in the Earl Mountains.
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And he also conducted for the Soviets a number of other enterprises, right down to pens and pencil manufacturing, for example.
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But Armand Hammer is interesting because his father, although Armand Hammer today is chairman of Occidental Petroleum Corporation,
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his father was Julius Hammer, who in 1919 was Secretary General of the Communist Party USA,
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which emphasizes the argument I made throughout my books, that at the top level,
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there's no difference between your top communist and your top capitalist, the interlink.
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You've got Armand Hammer, chairman of Occidental Petroleum, his father was Secretary of the Communist Party USA in 1919.
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So it's basically a power grab.
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It's a power grab, an international power grab.
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Now, during the Second World War, why Russia was pretty well decimated once again by the German forces,
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what part did the American Lend-Lease program play in building up Russia's industrial capacity after the Second World War?
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Well, Lend-Lease built up Russia's capacity, modernized it, and expanded it during World War II.
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And there was some continuation all the way through perhaps to 1948, 1949.
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There was a program after Lend-Lease, which was supposed to be restricted to foodstuffs and industrial materials.
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In effect, I checked the records in the warehouses in Central Maryland,
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I find that even after World War II, and this was against the intent of Congress, I suspect,
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there was a massive transfer of the latest industrial equipment to the Soviet Union under the so-called Lend-Lease program.
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Now, in 1948, there was a fascinating book came out by Major Racy Jordan,
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in which he talked about American aid to the communists as far as their ability to build nuclear weapons.
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Did you ever have an opportunity of verifying the facts that we had given them the heavy water,
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we'd given them the wherewithal to build their atomic weapons?
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Well, as part of the work I was doing at Stanford, I did investigate the shipping documents for Lend-Lease,
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and I took a sample of these documents, I checked them against Major Jordan.
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And broadly, Major Jordan was correct within say about 5%.
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And Major Jordan, of course, made the charge that we had shipped materials to the Soviets, 1944 and 1945,
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which were later used in their atomic program.
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There is no doubt he is correct.
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We shipped heavy water, which is essential, but we shipped other items, which are perhaps less obvious to the layman.
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We shipped, for example, aluminum tubes, and aluminum tubes are essential for atomic energy development.
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We shipped graphite, and graphite is another essential component.
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So generally, as far as I could check, and I checked the original government Lend-Lease document,
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General Major Jordan was correct.
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Now, as the years have gone by, of course, we see a growing Soviet nuclear threat.
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The Soviets now have MIRV missiles.
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Can you give a little of the background on how the Soviet Union,
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which really didn't have the technology to develop those MIRV missiles that threaten our cities today,
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how were they able to develop the MIRV capacity?
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Well, you've got to go back and look at how the Russians were able to develop a rocket space technology anyway.
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What they did after World War II was, American forces were held back for a while,
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while the Soviets occupied East Germany.
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They stripped East Germany.
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They took back the latest of the V-2 rocket technology from Peenemunde and other places,
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and the V-2 became the basis of the Russian space technology.
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Now, if you skip the intervening years, you will find when you come to the early 1970s
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that the Russians did not have the capability to MIRV their missiles.
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And in particular, they lacked the ability to produce the very precision,
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micro-miniature ball bearings that are needed for the control systems.
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There was only one company in the world, Byron Chuck and Grinder,
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which could make the machinery, which machines the races within which these ball bearings run.
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And without those races, you just cannot make MIRV missiles in any quantity.
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You can make one off, but not in quantity.
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Byron Chuck and Grinder was allowed to ship to the Soviet Union 45 of these machines at a time,
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when we only had 33 in the United States.
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There wasn't any objection to doing this?
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I objected at Miami Beach in 1972.
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Other people objected, but the objections were squashed.
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And predominantly at fault here was Henry Kissinger and the incoming administration,
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the incoming Nixon administration.
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This was known, I'm sure it was known in DOD.
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If I knew it, then certainly DOD knew it.
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But the objections were squashed, and there was suppression of the information.
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And so once again, we see America building up the military capacity,
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the nuclear threat from the Soviet Union.
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Well, this goes, you know, when you talk about MIRVing of missiles,
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you're talking about a quantum jump in your military technology.
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Now, I'm not a military man, but to me, the ability to do that is a massively forward.
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And we enabled them to do it, and we did it knowingly and deliberately.
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During the Vietnamese War, the Soviet Union and the Eastern European satellites
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were the primary suppliers of war materials to the North Vietnamese
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who were killing American boys in South Vietnam.
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Would you comment on our aid and trade with the Soviet Union
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and with the Eastern European satellites during that period of time?
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Well, there's no question that the Soviets were the prime suppliers
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of military equipment and supplies to the North Vietnamese.
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Let me give you an example.
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The American pilots, as they flew over the Ho Chi Minh Trail,
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described the trucks that they were seeing as American trucks.
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Well, they were American trucks because they came from the Gorky plant,
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and the Gorky was built by Henry Ford.
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And so you have the situation where we were, in effect,
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supplying both sides in the Vietnamese War.
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But the trucks were being built by the Soviet Union.
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However, were they getting any materials from the United States to help build those trucks?
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Yes. In the early 1970s, I know specifically of shipments of equipment
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into the Gorky plant while the war was going on,
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which, in effect, were aiding the Soviets to build more trucks to be used
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by the North Vietnamese.
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How about loans? Was America extending loans to the Soviet Union
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during this period when they were the primary financiers of the North Vietnamese?
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Yes. Beginning about 1970, there was a massive grant of loans to the Soviet Union.
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I'd say by about 1976, it must have totaled perhaps $40 billion, outstanding.
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And so this, of course, these loans were used to enable the Soviet Union
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to purchase industrial equipment in the United States.
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And this industrial equipment was used to manufacture, in part,
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military supplies, which were used against us in Vietnam.
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How about Russian shipping that was being used, ferry supplies to North Vietnam?
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Shipping is a very interesting example, because the Soviets published a shipping register,
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about 6,000 ships. And I analyzed every one of these ships,
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both the origin of the technology of the ship itself, the hull, and the engine.
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Most of them are marine diesel engines.
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And I find that 60% of the Soviet merchant marine, which, of course, has military usefulness,
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60% was built abroad.
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Only 40% in the Soviet Union, and that largely to Western design.
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But when you come to marine diesel engines, you find something really fascinating.
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You find that 80% of the marine diesel engines in Soviet merchant ships are Western engines.
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Professor Quigley tells us that the central banks of the world are working to create a
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fast a feudal system by which they can control the governments and then the
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governments will control the people of the world the true objective of what's
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going on today is the establishment of a one-world government a new world
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economic order and a new world spirituality and behind everything that
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is transpiring today are dark and sinister spiritual forces for indeed we
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are engaged in a spiritual battle if you read Ephesians 612 you'll find this
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reference for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against
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principalities against powers against the rulers of the darkness of this world
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against spiritual wickedness in high places wherefore take unto you the whole
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armor of God that you may able to withstand in the evil day and having
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done all to stand ladies and gentlemen the forces which control the council
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on foreign relations and the trilateral Commission and the Bilderbergers and the
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Masonic movement and the skull and bone society and the Federal Reserve Board
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and the central banks of the world are joined together in a continuity of evil
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there are dark and sinister spiritual forces of the in the world today they
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have financed communism since its inception they financed Adolf Hitler
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they took us into a no-win war in Korea they took us into a no-win war in Vietnam
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and of course today they are building up the military potential of Communist
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China will America survive as a free nation only if the people of this nation
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are willing to join together and become informed become involved in the political
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process first of all to understand it's a spiritual battle to come to understand
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why America was a great Christian nation at one time and then how we lost
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that freedom we are told by Abraham Lincoln and this is what he wrote back
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here's what he said back at the Lyceum in Springfield Illinois in about 1840 at
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what point should we expect the approach of danger by what means should we
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fortify ourselves against it should we expect some transatlantic giant to step
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the ocean and crush us with a blow never all the armies of Europe and Asia
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combined could never by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a mark on
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the Blue Ridge then at what point should we expect the approach of danger and I
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answer if it ever reaches it must spring among us it can never come from abroad if
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destruction be our lot we ourselves must be its authors and its finishers as a
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nation of free men we should live on through all time or die by suicide and
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then let me close with that wonderful quotation from James Russell Lowell
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written in 1844 and this is what he wrote once to every man and nation comes
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the moment to decide in that strife of truth with falsehood for the good or
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evil side some great cause God's new Messiah offering each the bloom or
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blight and the strife goes on forever tricks the darkness and the light then
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to side with truth is noble here to share a wretched crust error cause
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brings faith fame and fortune and this just prospers to be just then it is the
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brave man chooses while the coward stands aside until the multitudes make
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virtue of the faith they have denied though the cause of evil prospers yet
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his truth alone is strong though our portion be the scaffold and upon the
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throne be wrong but that scaffold sways the future for in the dim unknown
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standeth God within the shadows keeping watch above his own
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subsidiaries they transferred technology they transferred material
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assistance for example stocks of tetraethyl before the Germans could
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manufacture it under the joint manufacturing agreement with the United
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States and also they financed this for example Standard Oil financed in 1933
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the development of the gasoline industry in Germany which was needed to fight
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World War two and that's a very interesting point could you go a little
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bit into the background of where Germany got its oil to fight the Second World
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War because certainly Germany doesn't have oil resources Germany does not have
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oil resources that's true it used in World War two synthetic oil which it
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did which it got from coal and the basic technical processes for the development
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of oil from coal came from the United States from essentially from the
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Standard Oil Barter which had this technical assistance agreement with
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IG Farben and because I G Farben contributed something like 60% of the
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explosives needed by the German Wehrmacht probably about 40 50 percent of the
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gasoline needed by the Wehrmacht and by the German Air Force the Luftwaffe and
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was there a definite interlock between IG Farben and Standard Oil the interlock
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was at the technical level the exchange of patents it was through a financial
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technical assistance agreement there were other interlocks with the United
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States through subsidiary IG Farben in the United States about with Standard
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Oil the interlocks with the technical and financial level and is it a fact
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it's been stated that there were members of the board of directors of Standard
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Oil who are also on the board of directors of American IG Farben
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yes Walter Tegel is one name that comes to mind when there were several those
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several days was an interlock with Ford between IG Farben and American IG Farben
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and the Ford Motor Company not that I can recall not offhand not offhand so
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basically what we're seeing then is American industry helping to provide the
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technology helping to provide the finance helping to provide the material
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that is going to allow Hitler to create his war machine yes that is correct that
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is correct now in your book Wall Street and the rise of Hitler you talked about
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the bombing patterns during the Second World War and the fact that it was
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amazing that there were certain factories that were not bombed whereas
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the majority of the German factories were decimated German owned factories
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there were certain factories that tied into this interlock we've already
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alluded to that for some strange reason seemed to escape the devastation of our
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saturation bombing in World War two the German electrical industry was or should
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have been a prime target for Western bombing but in practice the German
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General Electric plants were not bombed of the ten major plants not one was
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bombed and a half a dozen others had trifling damage broken windows that kind
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of thing so what we have here is a very interesting case of an industry which
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should have been bombed in World War two but was not bombed and yet we have a
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market ownership which raises a certain amount of suspicion as to why it was not
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bombed but as far as the German owned electrical companies did they undergo
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a rather heavy bombing I took a look at that the Siemens plant for example they
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were bombed there's no question about the industry was not targeted as a
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general target so Siemens for example is not bombed as heavily as a tank plants
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or aviation plants that kind of thing you mentioned the Ford plant in Cologne
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was this a prime military target the Ford plant in Cologne should have been
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a prime military target for example the British Air Force the Royal Air Force
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did bomb the Ford plant at Poissy in France but the Ford plant in Cologne
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which was the by far the largest Ford plant in Germany was not bombed in World
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War two but did our military planners intend to bomb it in other words was it
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on the aiming report well I did look at the aiming reports for the plants in
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Cologne Ford was known about they knew that it was producing equipment for the
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Wehrmacht but it was not bombed it was scheduled as a target but it was not
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bombed so somewhere along the line as far as the planning was concerned the
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name of the Ford motor plant in Cologne was deleted and yet the city of Cologne
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itself was totally decimated the city of Cologne was decimated as of course many
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other cities in Germany were decimated but somewhere along the line something
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happened I suspect it was in the aiming committers and without question orders
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were sent out not to bomb certain targets even though these were prime
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military targets and Bolshevism was just beginning to get a foothold in Russia
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yes there were several incidents the most important is one involving Colonel
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William Boyce Thompson who was the largest shareholder in the Chase Bank
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which of course today is Chase Manhattan Bank and I published in one of my books
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a copy of a cable gram which transferred funds from New York to
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Petrograd in December 1917 one million dollars to be precise and Colonel
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Thompson made the statement later that this one million dollars was given to the
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Bolsheviks to to consolidate that they had just begun to take over Russia they
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only controlled Moscow and Petrograd at that time to aid the the control that
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the Bolsheviks were extending in Russia this is a very clear case one million
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dollars American funds transferred through an American Wall Street
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intermediary to the Bolsheviks and didn't you publish that document here in
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Wall Street and rise of Bolshevism I published two two statements one is a
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copy of the cable Graham and the other is a copy of the news clip of the
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statement made by Colonel Thompson at that time that he had given made this
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contribution now why would an American capitalist an American financier help
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to aid Bolshevism the only answer and of course this puzzled me for years you
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know why why because we understand that to be an opposition and the only answer
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I can come to is one of captive markets the United States did not want another
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United States in the world and of course if you look at the world map Russia is
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two or three times larger in the United States imagine this as another United
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States is another competitor to the United States what the United States
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wanted or Wall Street wanted was a captive market and of course socialism is
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a captive market because my earlier studies at Stanford University have
01:00:01.860 --> 01:00:04.820
brought out the fact that a socialist system cannot innovate it's going to
01:00:04.820 --> 01:00:10.020
import innovation and technology from the West and so I think the aim behind
01:00:10.020 --> 01:00:17.420
this was to encourage the development of Marxism and other types of
01:00:17.420 --> 01:00:23.220
socialism because this would give these Wall Street bankers control of a world
01:00:23.220 --> 01:00:27.580
market a captive market at the end of the First World War Russia was
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devastated by famine and America sent a relief mission it was the Hoover mission
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do you know any of the facts surrounding the activities of the Hoover
01:00:38.300 --> 01:00:45.540
Commission well there's no question that in 1922 1923 Russia was finished
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industrial output was perhaps eight or ten percent of 1913 figures and people
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were starving by the hundreds of thousands and the Hoover mission was
01:00:55.780 --> 01:01:02.740
organized of course to send aid to Russia but most of the aid went to the
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Bolsheviks who controlled really quite a small part of Russia at that time only
01:01:08.940 --> 01:01:14.620
a very small part of the aid went to the White Russians or to the Far East and
01:01:14.620 --> 01:01:19.300
then after in 1922 and 1923 Lenin instituted something known as the new
01:01:19.300 --> 01:01:24.460
economic policy or this series of five-year plans can you tell us about the
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five-year plans and the part that the major American corporations major world
01:01:28.700 --> 01:01:34.220
corporations played in building up the Soviet Union well there are two separate
01:01:34.220 --> 01:01:41.220
phases here the new economic policy was started in 1923 by Lenin and I
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found and I published this in my first book from Stanford that every single
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Russian industry was rebuilt or restarted by foreign corporations mostly
01:01:52.900 --> 01:01:59.260
German British French and American by 1928 Russia was back to approximately
01:01:59.260 --> 01:02:08.060
its 1913 and industrial output and at that point she began to think of these
01:02:08.060 --> 01:02:15.020
grandiose five-year plans and in 1928 a gas plan which is the Russian government
01:02:15.020 --> 01:02:19.900
planning Commission actually designed an initial a five-year plan about this was
01:02:19.900 --> 01:02:23.900
thrown out it was inadequate and American corporations were built in what
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were brought into Russia and the first five-year plan and the second five-year
01:02:27.780 --> 01:02:31.900
plan were actually designed in the United States by American corporations
01:02:31.900 --> 01:02:37.140
and what were these corporations which ones specifically were involved the
01:02:37.140 --> 01:02:43.660
design of the first first five-year plan was by a corporation probably not known
01:02:43.660 --> 01:02:50.300
to most Americans Albert Kahn but other Khan was the foremost industrial
01:02:50.300 --> 01:02:57.060
architect in the United States and other Khan laid out the basics of the first
01:02:57.060 --> 01:03:03.820
five-year plan for the Soviets and then we find again the same corporations
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involved with a construction of the plants International General Electric
01:03:08.020 --> 01:03:17.940
certainly DuPont Ford Motor I was called into the office of the director and I
01:03:17.940 --> 01:03:22.940
was told in no uncertain terms not to make any more speeches like that and
01:03:22.940 --> 01:03:27.500
that this information should not be made public this was the information that we
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were giving the Soviet Union the technology to develop its war potential
01:03:33.060 --> 01:03:37.140
yes at that time we were in we were in Vietnam and as you know these Soviets
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were supplying the North Vietnamese this was 1972 1972 yes and for example I
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knew that the Gorky plant which was built by the Ford Motor Company the
01:03:46.980 --> 01:03:51.980
Gorky plant in Russia produces the gas a series of vehicles the gas vehicles had
01:03:51.980 --> 01:03:56.700
been seen on Ho Chi Minh trail we were supplying equipment to the Gorky plant
01:03:56.700 --> 01:04:01.460
in the middle of the Vietnamese war and these trucks were being used to carry
01:04:01.460 --> 01:04:04.740
ammunition supplies which were killing Americans I thought this was morally
01:04:04.740 --> 01:04:08.460
wrong and I said so Miami Beach and at Hoover Institution and it was this type
01:04:08.460 --> 01:04:13.740
of information that was suppressed and so what eventually happened as far as
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your activities of the Hoover Institution were concerned well I didn't
01:04:16.940 --> 01:04:20.260
pay much heed to the warnings I published a book called National
01:04:20.260 --> 01:04:26.100
Suicide in the following year which summarized our assistance to the Soviets
01:04:26.100 --> 01:04:30.260
our military assistance to the Soviets and when that book came out to the grain
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again it was great pressure to stop the book both on those pressure on both the
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publishers and me personally and I felt I couldn't take this and a few years
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later I just left the Hoover Institution since 1975 I've been an independent
01:04:43.580 --> 01:04:48.340
author without any ties whatsoever let's go a little bit into the background of
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the financing of the German war machine that we fought in the period 1941 to
01:04:54.420 --> 01:05:00.900
1945 could we start first of all with the original financing of Hitler between
01:05:00.900 --> 01:05:08.500
1923 when he was first making his effort to come into prominence in
01:05:08.500 --> 01:05:15.660
Germany the original financing of Hitler that in the years 1922 came only partly
01:05:15.660 --> 01:05:20.620
from Germany one of the most prominent Americans concerned with financing
01:05:20.620 --> 01:05:25.260
Hitler was Henry Ford in fact Henry Ford received a medal in 1938 for his
01:05:25.260 --> 01:05:29.620
assistance to the early Nazi Party then of course Hitler had his attempted push
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in 1923 he went to jail and then we begin another era in the rise of Hitler
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right and of course he eventually came to power in 1933 by the electoral process
01:05:40.980 --> 01:05:47.140
what about the financing of Hitler's electoral activities in 1933 but this
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this I can trace I have traced a very exactly I discovered amongst the
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Nuremberg records a series of bank transfer slips and to the Dauberg
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Schickler Bank in Berlin to an account which was under the control of Rudolf
01:06:00.780 --> 01:06:06.500
Hess and this was the fund that was used to finance Hitler's access to power in
01:06:06.500 --> 01:06:13.460
March 1973 and amongst the corporations that transferred money to Hitler I find
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not only RG Farben which is which is quite widely known but also German
01:06:17.660 --> 01:06:22.140
General Electric AEG which is under under the control of General Electric in the
01:06:22.140 --> 01:06:29.140
United States was at that time and companies like Osram and now what was
01:06:29.140 --> 01:06:33.900
the tie-in between Osram and General Electric the tie-in that was a share tie
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in international General Electric in the United States had controlling interest
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in German General Electric and also through share interlocks a controlling
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interest in Osram in Germany so then we have Ford and we have General Electric
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helping to finance it off Hitler's rise to power when the other large American
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corporations involved very definitely a standard oil through its technical
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association with IG Farben for example Germany could not have gone to war in
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1939 without tetraethyl you need tetraethyl to raise the octane value of
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aviation gasoline Germany had no means of doing that this was developed in the
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in the athel laboratories in the United States and transferred to the Germans
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standard oil came up with the hydrogenation idea which was very
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essential for Germany in the 1930s because the to raise the quality of its
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gasoline for aviation purposes this was transferred to the Nazis and ITT for
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example International Telephone and Telegraph was very intimately associated
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with the Nazis through dr. Schroeder who was head of the ITT subsidiaries in
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Germany and ITT controlled companies which made not only electrical
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instruments but also the Focke-Wulf plant which made airplanes fighter
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airplanes so what you're suggesting that is that American corporations were
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helping to finance the German industry that was building up the war potential
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American corporations only a few not many financed Hitler through that
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the video you're about to see is a very very important interview I did it back
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in 1980 in June of 1980 with Anthony Sutton and of course Anthony had been a
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scholar at the Hoover Institute for really many many years and while he was
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there he wrote the three volumes of Western technology and Soviet economic
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development he wrote his book national suicide and these books went into the
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background of the funding of the Soviet Union from its inception and of course
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his book national suicide went into the fact that America was financing the
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Soviet Union all during the Vietnam War while the Soviet Union was financing the
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North Vietnamese who were killing our boys in South Vietnam in fact everything
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was done to prevent professor Sutton from either publishing the third volume
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of Western technology or his book national suicide tremendous pressure was
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brought to bear on his publisher so that national suicide could not be brought out
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so the American people were not to know that during the Vietnam War we were
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financing indirectly the North Vietnamese well let me just show you a
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few of the books that professor Sutton has written and these would include of
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course the Western technology and Soviet economic development Wall Street and
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both in the Bolshevik Revolution Wall Street and FDR Wall Street and the rise
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of Hitler and of course national suicide he's probably written at least
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ten other books including the Federal Reserve conspiracy the trilateral of
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silver Washington volumes one and two he's written extensively on the skull
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and bone society on gold on diamonds certainly Anthony Sutton is one of the
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finest writers that we have within the conservative movement today and for the
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last 20 years he hasn't been doing interviews he I've contacted him a
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number of times asked him to do radio interviews with me but he is unavailable
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I think that you're going to find that this interview will explain to you who
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it was who financed Adolf Hitler and gave him the the capability of waging
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war against the West who it was who financed the the Bolshevik movement after
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it was established in 1917 and kept it going until the Berlin Wall came down in
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1989 you're going to learn about the trilateral Commission you're going to
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learn about who controls the media in the United States indeed who is the
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invisible government and what the ultimate goal of that invisible
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government is and why that invisible government financed Adolf Hitler and
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finances communism and has financed communism since its inception and now to
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Anthony Sutton
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Dr. Sutton he wrote three series of books while you were a research fellow
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at the Hoover Institute can you give me basically the background of the content
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of these series yes the the series I wrote at the Hoover Institution Stanford
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University concerned the transfers of Western technology to the Soviet Union
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and essentially comprised three individual books each book covers a
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period of time since 1917 and then you wrote a second series of books on Wall
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Street yes these were trade books in other words that they're not academic
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books they're written for the general public they concerned the buildup of
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the three types of socialism Bolshevik socialism in Russia what we might call
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welfare socialism in the United States and Hitler and on national socialism and
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each book examines the financing and the contributions made by Wall Street by
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international bankers to that to the development of that specific form of
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socialism now in your research and analysis and your efforts to bring out
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the facts about what was going on in our society did you encounter any effort to
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discourage you to prevent you from bringing out the background of America's
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involvement in the financing of international communism yes very
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definitely for example when I was at Hoover Institution in 1972 I went to
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Miami Beach to give some testimony before the Republican National
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Committee and although a congressman had hand delivered to the wine services
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this testimony which was later printed the wine services refused to transmit
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it to the newspapers then when I got back to the Hoover Institution and in
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California that's rather reminiscent of some of the orders that went out during
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the Korean War some of the orders that went out during the Vietnamese war to
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leave specific targets within the enemy's domain untouched by our
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strategic bombing I understand that was so although I've not investigated it
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now in your book Wall Street and the rise of Hitler there was one very
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interesting section about a special fund that Heinrich Himmler had and the
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fund of money from German corporations into this fund even up into the years
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1943 and 1944 and many of these corporations had strong ties into the
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American corporations into their the American parent corporations could you
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tell us a little bit about the Kepler fund the Kepler fund was also known as
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the Conto S fund it was what we might call Heinrich Himmler's personal slush
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fund he used it for his own personal projects and what amazed me was both in
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1933 and in 1944 the two days the two years for which I examined the records
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over half the funds came from American corporations for example in 1933 ITT
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Standard Oil General Electric and and possibly Osram were contributors even in
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1944 in the middle of World War two we find that ITT was funneling funds to
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Heinrich Himmler's fund through Schroeder who was the chairman of the ITT
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subsidiaries in Germany we also find that the standard oil subsidiary in Germany
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was financing Heinrich Himmler and this was in the middle of World War two now
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were these facts ever brought out at the Nuremberg hearings they were never
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brought out at the Nuremberg hearings although the documents do exist within
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the within the files within the records they have not been published as far as I
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know and you actually have access to these records yes there's some 400 tons
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of these records available and many of them were at the Hoover Institution or
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copies were at the Hoover Institution and that's where I found the original
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documentation I think it's a tragic part of our history when the American public
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doesn't realize the interplay then between great American corporations and
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the financing the funding of the Nazi movement now I wanted to talk just a
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little bit about the Nuremberg trials because of the Nuremberg trials the
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Nazis the Nazi war criminals the Nazi generals were hold were held specifically
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guilty for what transpired were there any Americans involved were any Americans
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indicted were any Americans convicted as far as the financing of the Nazi war
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movement very definitely not I looked at the criteria for what we might call war
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war crimes under the Nuremberg Tribunal and there's no question in my mind that
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certain Americans well fitted the criteria which required indictment and
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trial but no Americans were ever brought to trial do you think there was any
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conscious effort to conceal this fact both from the Nuremberg war tribunal and
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from the American public well it was a conscious effort in the fact that these
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businessmen were very prominent in stating in 1946 that they had no
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knowledge of what Hitler was doing and yet they were intimately involved with
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the buildup with Hitler I suspect that this was not published in the media at
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the time although I've not checked that but certainly the the role of American
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corporations and American businessmen in aiding Hitler has not been published
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now what about the actual financing what about the loans from large American
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banks from large British banks to Hitler's government in that period
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between 1933 and 1939 when Hitler was preparing for war well you've got to go
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back a little earlier and look at what are known as the young loans which were
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very important because I think they brought about the economic collapse of
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German in 1933 that was the young plan this was Owen Young who was a
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chairman of General Electric here we got a man who actually made the loans as
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an officer of the United States government which brought about the
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collapse of Germany in 1933 enabling Hitler to take over and then subsequent
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to 1933 you get a series of loans a very good one is Standard Oil which loans
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several million dollars at least the to Germany to build up its aviation
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gasoline facilities and the other examples fine well I'd like to get a
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little bit into the background of the financing of Bolshevism because I think
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this is vitally important and we can go back to the period after the second
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revolution which was in October and November of 1917 the initial financing
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of Lenin's movement how did it tie into the American corporations was there any
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American involvement in that period between 1917 and 1918 when