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We are not going to do our first five today, as we almost always do, instead we're going

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right to an interview. We have online Maria Zak. She is in the Washington, D.C. area.

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She is the founder of an organization called Nations in Action, and she is going to be

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telling us about an affidavit delivered to Congress today on this extremely important

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day in America, January 6th, as the Congress is reviewing the electoral votes coming in

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from around the country in the midst of obvious, you know, widespread concern about their authenticity.

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She is the founder of, as I say, Nations in Action, and she's also, her organization has

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partnered with another group called Good Governance, the Institute of Good Governance.

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They together put some information coming out of Italy related to our elections, and without

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further ado, and this is the breaking story of the day and maybe the year, this story

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about to hear. Maria Zak joins us live. Hi, Maria.

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Hi, Debbie. Thank you so much for having me today.

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So glad you could come on. Well, I didn't want to spoil your story at all, so I know you delivered

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an affidavit today in Washington to at least a couple people in Congress and the President's

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Chief of Staff coming out of Italy that's relating directly to this whole issue of

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election fraud in America, and I want to let you just tell our listeners what it was you delivered.

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Yes, ma'am. We are very thrilled to partner with the Institute for Good Governance, and Nations in Action

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shares the same passion for honesty and truth in elections, and so we have done some substantial

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research over the years. I've even been on the recount teams over the years, including the 2000 recount

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team, and what was troubling in 2016 in the elections and 2018 with Broward County, we exposed that fraud,

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but never in my life did I think we would have the opportunity to see what act that we have seen

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in taking the election theft to a whole new level. There's so many variations and kinds of theft,

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but this orchestrated theft that took place in America that is breaking today, and thank you for

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helping us break this story, we actually know the person who actually committed the act of uploading

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the software, where they did it, how they did it, and that has been put into an affidavit with the top

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lawyer of Italy, and was part of a proceeding, a judicial proceeding in a federal court in Italy

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in the past couple days, so news has been breaking, Italy Did It is the global trending hashtag,

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and it is for a reason. This happened, it's very real, the president is right, foreign interference did

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occur, and people need to be prosecuted in our country who actually participated, so that affidavit,

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as you said, was drafted and submitted to Congress at 1 12 this afternoon, as soon as we could get it

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over safely, there are people who have their lives at risk for wanting to save our country, they know

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it's that important, many believe, like what we did as America for Italy in World War II, that it was

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time for them to repay saving America, and that's exactly what they did, they stepped up, amazing patriots.

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So I want to be sure what our listeners are understanding, this affidavit you're describing,

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I have it in front of me, and I may even read it at some point in the show, but the person is talking

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about what was uploaded was the instructions to flip votes from Trump to Biden on the evening,

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late evening November 3rd, early November 4th, as the votes are being counted in the unsettled states,

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this person is attesting that he was the one who uploaded the instruction to a satellite owned by Leonardo,

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the Italian cybersecurity company, a government contractor, uploaded the instruction to change those votes

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in America from Trump to Biden, and that went up to a Leonardo-owned satellite, back to servers then in

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Germany, and ultimately back to America. So this is the proof that votes were shifted

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by foreign powers in our 2020 November elections. Is that correct?

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Yes, ma'am. This person has said very precisely that he has been an employee of Leonardo SPA,

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and Leonardo is a very large, I believe, the 11th largest defense contractor in the world.

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And so we need to think about that, that they have received over a billion dollars of American taxpayer dollars

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during this past year, and yet they helped orchestrate, according to this gentleman,

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the theft of the 2020 election. This is the piece that Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani and everybody

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has been begging to have and to see because they knew something was wrong. And I think voters in their

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heart knew something was wrong. But what's amazing is that they were never quite able to get that

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missing little piece, that little nugget of who, where, and how. And the why is certainly impossible.

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It's impossible to believe in some respects, but we must stand up for truth and do a full

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investigation. I know members of Congress are calling for that, but this now takes away the

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need for an investigation because we have the person who is admitting to the theft of the election.

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You know, I was going to, you kind of jumped right to where I wanted to go, which is many of us have

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been watching the election results of November, 2020, and just watched as during the counting of

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votes on election night and watched that it was very obvious to people paying attention to, especially

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the states that are often swing states, that Donald Trump was on track to a clear and easy victory.

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And maybe not easy, but a clear, solid victory in those states. And then counting stopped in many of

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those states. And among many things that occurred, mail-in ballots were dropped, but also it appeared

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data appeared to have been changed. And the next morning, who knew? It turned out Biden won all of

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those states. And so the questions people have been asking, everyone working on behalf of President Trump

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been asking is basically, who's the big orchestrator? I mean, there are, there's obvious evidence of

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election fraud, election theft, vote fraud, who organized it, who did it, and how. And what you,

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Marina Zak, and Nations in Action are bringing forth for the members of Congress to see is this is who did

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it. This is a person acknowledging that he did this. He changed this data out of Italy. In fact, I have

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the person's affidavit, and I'll tell my listeners, if you look at a copy of the affidavit, you can go to

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our website, americacanwetalk.org, on the homepage under shows, drop down a list of links. We have a

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copy of the affidavit, uploaded there later today. And what this person writing the affidavit is

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saying, he, he is describing what was acknowledged in a deposition in an Italian court. And this person

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who actually conducted this switching of the vote. So now, Maria, who did you give it to in Congress?

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Actually, a very good man that I've known for a couple of decades now, Congressman Barry

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Loudermilk of North Georgia is a dear friend. I was trying to send it to Jody Heiss, who is also

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amazing. And I sent it over to Devin Nunes' staff, whom I have been speaking with for some time. I've

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also met with Louie Gohmert's staff for a long time to let them know that it was coming as well. So many

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of the members of Congress knew that there was a problem and that we were identifying it and still

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pulling together the research. We just didn't realize how much information we were going to get.

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And that's what's been really quite telling because it was simply a man who has extraordinary

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IT experience. He's a senior software engineer at Leonardo. He is not someone new. He's not someone

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unknown. And there were a couple of articles that struck early in Italy, right after our election,

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and Leonardo reacted differently, as did the country. They started firing their heads of

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telecommunications and cybersecurity and suddenly had people arrested. And we thought that was rather

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peculiar. And that helped us pull the pieces together. But this man said to his wife, I don't

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understand why we are interfering with America's election. And that's how it happened. That's how things

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started to spiral and get back to us in our research and investigations with the Institute for Good

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Governance. So we're very grateful for that relationship. They're an extraordinary organization

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also committed to good governance that is so sorely needed in America today and in other countries. Because

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if we cannot have a safe election, nothing else matters. And no state legislature should allow what

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took place in these affidavits that are in the state legislatures. And I've reviewed many. Our team

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members were poll watchers across the United States. And these people are great Americans who would never

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lie. And they're there to make sure it's a safe and secure election. But they too witnessed that the

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machines were going online. And they were not supposed to be. So there was a connection from some of our

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poll watchers, even in Georgia, all the way back to Italy with with the theft. So people knew something

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was very wrong. Maria, what's your understanding, if any, about so these individuals working, this

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individual who's acknowledged what he did working for Leonardo, there were there was talk in some of

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the Italian media about the apparent involvement or connection in some way to individuals in the US

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embassy in Italy. What is your knowledge, if you have any, about whether or not US officials were in

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some way involved in this? Sure, we have been informed that Prime Minister Conte was very, very

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involved in this and one of the senior staff at the embassy. So we are asking for a full investigation

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of the embassy, the State Department personnel that have been in that embassy. We want a seizure of all

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their equipment, their phone records. We want a full transparent investigation to help Americans know

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what that involvement was. We want full prosecution. We have heard that members of our CIA were involved.

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I believe he's got that in his testimony. And that is that is quite shocking to us as taxpayers and

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Americans that our own countrymen would betray our country. And we had it on good authority that

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the senior staff foreign officer, he retired just a day or two before the election to ensure he didn't

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lose his pension. So we also heard that he had great involvement with General Claudio Graziano and was

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often seen walking across the street to the St. Regis for meetings. And it was to help orchestrate

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this. General Graziano is also the head of the EU military command and is on the board of Leonardo SPA.

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So we have a real mess on our hands, honestly, and America must stand up and say we deserve full

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transparency. Conte needs to come clean. We need General Graziano to be dealt with if he had any

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involvement at all. And I ask that the intel community, certainly the intelligence committees

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of the House and Senate, immediately conduct investigations into Leonardo's activities and

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the findings from this affidavit. Could not agree more. I mean, the avenues of investigation that

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Americans undertake are enormous. But on the immediate front, we sit here on January 6th as United States

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Congress is going through its constitutional obligation to review the electoral college

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votes coming in from states where now on many fronts, the legislatures in those states are aware

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that they unknowingly, in most, in maybe all cases, most cases certified what they now understand

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have been fraudulent elections. So don't you think it ought to be incumbent on these members of the

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House and Senate to find some basis to suspend the count of electoral votes coming in? And in my view,

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what I was hoping Vice President Pence would do, but he has apparently declined to do that,

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go back to the states where there is a question about that some of them sent in two sets of

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electoral votes, send back this information. I mean, isn't it big enough information that those

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states should be afforded the opportunity to look again at the data in their states and make sure that

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what they're sending in about the results of their elections is consistent with the truth?

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Absolutely. This is not the smoking gun. This is the actual hand attached to the smoking gun.

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So we know this person did it, they're admitting to doing it, and they know that they're willing to

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sacrifice and risk their lives to come forward and give this information. So every state should be

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taking this as serious as possible. They have been duped. Those elected officials, I know in Georgia,

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some dear friends of mine, people I supported publicly for public office, were vehemently opposed,

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saying there was no fraud. Well, I've been a candidate on the ballot in Fulton County, Georgia

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in my past, and I can tell you fraud is rampant there. It has been existing for decades. We all know

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it. But this just took it to a whole new level. And because of the chaos of all the different types of

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corruption, we just kind of had this lurking back noise that something wasn't right when the votes

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actually switched. So those states should immediately, and most of them are going into special session at

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the beginning of the week, they should immediately see what they can do about retracting their electors

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and putting the proper slate forward. I believe that Congressman Loudermilk at 5 p.m. today in just

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a half an hour will be conducting the Georgia investigation on the House floor if they actually

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can regain control there in the Capitol. But we need all those states to investigate this thoroughly.

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It's not even an investigation at this stage. It's a, this happened, now what are you going to do

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about it? And they don't have a choice. If they do not pull back, they are committing crimes because

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this is blatant evidence, and we know it happened. So my good friend Brian Kemp, I'm happy to say,

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has been advised of this. A few weeks back, I was able to message with him, and he has been waiting

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patiently for me to get the proof to him. And that's what a lot of people didn't understand.

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Some of our good guys actually knew more than everyone else that we were working on something

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big. We knew we had credibility with these members for our long years in work in this arena. So they've

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been trying to be judicious about what is it that we can actually prove. Well, now we were able to deliver

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that proof to Congress and to the legislatures. I'm actually surprised to hear you mention

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Governor Brian Kemp because there was great concern that he was, at a minimum, uninterested

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in understanding, digging into what election fraud seemed to have occurred in Georgia.

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And you're not saying that Brian Kemp is, Governor Brian Kemp of Georgia is aware of this,

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or will be aware of the actual affidavit. And so then I guess all of us ought to expect him to step

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forward and begin a more serious investigation of what happened in the Georgia elections, both the

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presidential election and actually the election that occurred yesterday for the United States

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Senate, where we had the apparent slim victories of both Democrats running and obviously loss of

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both Republicans. I want to ask you, though, with respect to this affidavit, the information you've

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gained. Is this, are you aware of whether or not what the information that was being sent from Italy

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up through their satellite, the Leonardo-owned satellite to Frankfurt, then back to America's

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servers, this involves the Dominion servers. Is that accurate? Dominion voting machine servers?

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My understanding is it does, and that it was 17 states that were impacted. So it is not just the

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swing states. Now, whether or not it's Georgia specifically, and Governor Kemp asked me that question,

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and I think that's a very fair question. A lot of people do not understand where Governor Kemp's come

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from. He's been attacked mercilessly without proof to date that I have seen, and I'm very concerned

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when people make accusations and ratchet things up prematurely. Let's let the facts go where they

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should. And for Governor Kemp to be attacked because he was being judicious is really irresponsible.

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He's a good man. I've watched him for decades. He and I ran in a neighboring Senate district during a

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reapportionment, so my area overlapped with his former Senate district. And I can tell you, he's

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someone who is a godly man, and he will do the right thing. So as proof comes out, I have no doubt

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that he will look at it. He will want to investigate it. And this is a game changer. This is the proof he's

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wanted all along. And to say, you know, in the past he was wrong, whatever. He actually knew more than

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every American. So the joke's kind of on the people who attacked him because he knew something was in

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the works. So I stand proudly with Brian because I know his heart. I know he's a good man. I wish he

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did a couple things different. Absolutely. Because I'm much more aggressive in attacking

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things like this. And that's just a style difference. But, you know, I do know that he

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was conducting many hundreds of investigations through the GBI. And most people don't even know

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that was occurring. So I believe it's over 250 investigations. And that's for the local and

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statewide fraud. And our organization also found 40,000 illegal votes that occurred in Georgia.

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And we did press releases on that as well. Okay, Maria, I want to go back. One quick thing

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on Leonardo SPA, which is this enormous Italian company. You can think somewhere in the ballpark

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akin to Lockheed Martin. I'm not saying akin to them in terms of conduct of apparent wrongdoing,

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but just size, scope, what they're all about. There were news stories in Italy in December about

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the arrests of certain officials at Leonardo accused of hacking and some kind of hacking

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operation, allegedly on hacking the Italian defense group's computers. And I believe I read that this

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is now being viewed as was a cover or a pretext to keep people away from the real story. Do you know

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about that angle? Yes, ma'am. Actually, Reuters actually did an article as well about the hacking and

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and many others. And it does appear now with this evidence coming out that that hack was not a hack.

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It was actually a protective maneuver to help cover their tracks. So many, many actions happened

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as things started to unfold and people started to run for cover. Okay, Maria, I want to mention

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for our listeners also, your organization Nations in Action has a great press release out. And so you

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can, we put it out on our website, americacanwetalk.org on the homepage under shows, drop down a list of

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links, but you can also go directly to the Nations in Action website, nationsinaction.org. They have a

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press release out giving more detail about our story today. But now I want to turn to the affidavit.

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And I know you've got a lot of people want to talk to you today. So I'm hoping we're still good.

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I'll keep a few more questions if you have time. Absolutely. Okay. So the affidavit that was

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submitted and now is apparently in the hands, I understand, I think of Mark Meadows, other people

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in Congress. This affidavit, to be really clear, is actually spelling out very specifically undertaking

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the under instruction and direction. And I meant to say the US person, this is in this guy's affidavit

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In sworn testimony, November 4th, 20, under instruction and direction of US persons working

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from the US embassy in Rome, this person has acknowledged he undertook the operation to

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switch data from the US elections on November 3rd from significant margin of victory for Donald Trump

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to Joe Biden in a number of states where Joe Biden was losing the vote totals. And actually the person

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announced it, told where he did it. The Pescara facility of Leonardo SPA utilizing military grade

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cyber warfare encryption capabilities to transmit switch votes from the military satellite of

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Fucino Tower to Frankfurt, Germany. So Maria, does President Trump have this information yet?

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I can tell you, I had the great pleasure of seeing him Christmas Eve. And as a devout

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Christian, I had this really neat realization that here was Christmas Eve. I saw him at dinner in

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Mar-a-Lago and he said, Merry Christmas. And I said, Merry Christmas, Mr. President, this is going to be

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the best Christmas you've ever had and the best Christmas gift because the whistleblower who actually

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switched the data for the vote counts across America is going to be providing an affidavit.

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And he swung around and looked at me and he, I said, sir, if you'll allow me to give you a piece

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of paper. And my husband, Steve was so kind to, to have the document ready and I handed it to the

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president. And, uh, and so I said, I believe this may count as the best present ever. And then it, it,

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uh, also dawned on me, we had the 12 days of Christmas began. And so today we sit at Epiphany

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and this release came. It was not intentional to wait till Epiphany. We were trying, uh, quickly,

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but as I said, it's a very dangerous situation on the streets of Italy. And, uh, and so we, we really,

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really wanted to be judicious and making sure that what we had was factual, that these people are

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telling, uh, the truth. And it's a grave concern that they have pointed to the embassy and the state

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department, as well as a certain, uh, three letter agency, which is shocking. And so we, we have a lot

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of investigations that have to take place because of it, but we're very proud of their heroic nature

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and patriotism for America. And let's hope Americans step up and, and show the gratitude for them

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stepping up because this, this was just an employee being told, Hey, can you load the software and

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conduct this exercise? It was not a, uh, a malicious, uh, event by this employee. So he, he had discovered

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what took place and, and was very troubled. So Maria, your organization, Nations in Action,

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you did not withhold this information to wait to spring it on. I did think about today being the

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Epiphany. It's also my parents' wedding anniversary, but that aside, a wonderful day, but you did not

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withhold this information until today. You just released it as soon as you had it securely in hand.

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Is that accurate? Yes, ma'am. We actually have been working for the past seven weeks, day and night,

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uh, just tirelessly our whole team at nations in action and the Institute for good governance. And

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we, we tried to see people and, and get people to listen and understand what was going on and the

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actions we had to take place, uh, to, to help protect people, help get the information, conduct the

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proper research and investigations. And it was a mammoth effort, very costly effort. And, uh, you know,

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I was pulling from my savings, doing everything to help fund this effort because it was so important

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for our country. My sixth great grandfather penned the declaration of independence. I am not going to

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let down our country and, and lose this Republic. And I can tell you that we knocked on doors galore

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and educated folks at all levels at state and federal levels. And, uh, many people just didn't want to

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listen. And they were fearing Russia hoax, Russia collusion, you know, it's just the whole mess that

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happens there. And, um, it just shows that the trauma that many people have been under for the past

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four years, the assault by the left to, to mess in your psyche, that you have to start doubting things.

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Even when people are saying, look, I just want you to look at the facts. Let me, let me come in and see

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it. So I have not had the pleasure of having a face to face with the president. I am begging for a

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meeting with the president because it is, uh, honestly a life or death, uh, situation. We, we have,

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uh, things we need to do to accomplish because the evidence is actually leading us to a far bigger

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story. And, uh, I look forward to sharing that with you and your viewers as it all unfolds.

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So Maria, thank you for all of that. You know, one reason I can imagine people you try to share

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the story with were a little bit reticent. You're so right about people having heard, uh, the Russia

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collusion hoax, other hoaxes that have been cooked up, uh, I guess really by both sides,

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but it seems to me mostly by the left, but other hoaxes cooked up. It's almost like a too good to be

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true story. And I'm thinking that people would listen and think, well, this is, you know,

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the idea we actually know how this happened. You know, the entity that use our satellites

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to transmit these switched votes or to use a common term, this switching of votes,

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use a satellite, send it back to America. And so what appears on our television screen

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is a calculation based on switch votes that that is just, it's, it's a phenomenal, uh,

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game changing discovery. So if you were on the side of the people concerned, I mean,

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do you know of any so far of what you've uncovered, who you've talked to? Are there any, uh, concerns

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you have about the veracity of this story? Any concerns about the veracity of the people talking

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to you?

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No, actually I have so much more investigative research that is quite mind blowing and it's,

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uh, it needs attention and needs immediate attention by the president. And, uh, we're very

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gravely concerned about, uh, any accusations that were made by this individual on, uh, us interference.

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In addition to foreign interference, we were told that MI6 was involved and, uh, that should be

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investigated as well. And it's someone I've met in the past, uh, as, uh, many people may recall the

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Cambridge Analytica mess, uh, in, in 2016 and their involvement with Facebook. So that, uh, has actually

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speared a little piece out. So I, I not only, uh, feel 100% that this is accurate information.

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I think it is going to have a ricochet effect across many countries and you will see, uh, Congress

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have to act. And I, I hope that people like Amy Klobuchar in the Senate will stand up for what she

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has said all along. I hear she's phenomenal and a very bright person. This is a moment, a clarion moment

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for her and her legacy as a politician. And she is statesman that's willing to say as a Democrat,

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this is egregious. We should never allow this to happen. It should be prosecuted to the full extent

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of the law. We should throw everything we have at it because this cannot be tolerated in America

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or any country to have anybody actually thwart the will of the people.

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That was one of my last points to say is there ought to be people on both sides of the aisle from very

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far left to moderate to wherever you put yourself. Everyone ought to be thinking we can't have America

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go forward with as a nation rooted in freedom, a self-governing nation, we, the people being the

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sovereign, if we can't trust our election system. And so therefore everyone should want the truth to come out.

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And it's probably going to involve people on both sides of the aisle. But whoever is involved,

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whoever was supportive of it, aware of it, orchestrating it, there's got to be this passion

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for truth that should really be on both sides of the aisle. Everyone should care very much. And I'm

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glad you mentioned a Democrat. I would think that Democrats and Republicans should be be have a higher

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goal than just my guy wins or your guy wins. But the American system itself has to win. The

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system of an integrity in our election system has to win. So if people want to follow you,

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follow what you're doing, help what you're doing, donate to it. I understand you need donations

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to help support the efforts of Nations in Action. Where do they go to find all that?

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Nationsinaction.org is our website and there's a donate button and above all a volunteer button. We are

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nonpartisan. We are about good government, transparency, lower taxes and less government

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and helping families thrive. And it's, you know, if we cannot have this basic foundation of transparency

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and good government and having free and fair elections, we will be no different than having

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dictators take over in third world countries. So this is a moment for our country to stand up.

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It is a revolutionary moment. And I believe you're going to see, and we are seeing right here in

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downtown D.C., what's happening where Americans are awake and it is not by party. They know if

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there is corruption in government, regardless of party, the people need to go down. And we're here to do

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that. Maria Zak, this is a great, just a great day for America, a great day to getting to the truth,

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getting a huge fact out there for everyone actually concerned about election fraud, a huge

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bit of information, more information on your website, more information, your press releases,

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that are available on the website. I can't thank you enough, Nations in Action, Institute for Good

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Governance, all, everyone working for you. This is just a, it's a, it's a groundbreaking day for

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America. I can't thank you enough for all you've done. Well, thank you, Debbie. And we appreciate always

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having your support at Nations in Action and being a part of it. And we just love what we do. And we're

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here to help all of America, America thrive and foreign countries as well, because they should

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never have to run from their countries. So God bless you. God bless America. And I have no doubt

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we're in for a wild ride and certainly a great investigatory look at what really happened.

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I most certainly hope so. Maria Zak, thank you so very much and keep me informed of everything you're

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doing. And I appreciate you so much. Thank you for joining us today.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.