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My main concern is that we're not going to reach herd immunity because of vaccine hesitancy.

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And I know that's hard for a lot of people to believe who desperately want the vaccine right now.

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And they're thinking, oh, well, it's just a small percentage of people who are actually anti-vaxxers.

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And that's true. There is the anti-science, anti-vaxxer contingent.

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But I think that there are many more people, millions of people who, for whatever reason,

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have concerns about the vaccine, who just don't know what's in it for them.

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And we need to make it clear to them that the vaccine is the ticket back to pre-pandemic life.

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And the window to do that is really narrowing.

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I mean, you were mentioning, Chris, about how all these states are reopening.

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They're reopening at 100%.

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And we have a very narrow window to tie reopening policy to vaccination status.

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Because otherwise, if everything is reopened, then what's the carrot going to be?

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How are we going to incentivize people to actually get the vaccine?

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So that's why I think the CDC and the Biden administration needs to come out a lot bolder

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and say, if you're vaccinated, you can do all these things.

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Here are all these freedoms that you have.

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Because otherwise, people are going to go out and enjoy these freedoms anyway.

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And I fear a situation of coming into the fall where we never reach herd immunity.

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And then we get hit by the next surge of COVID-19 in the fall.

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Something that we could have prevented if we just got people vaccinated now.