1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:22,960 Thank you. 2 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,800 Right ladies and gentlemen, and this brings us to the very last speaker of this wonderful 3 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:35,200 event, Megalithomania South Africa, Johannesburg, 13 March 2011, and it gives me personally 4 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:41,960 an absolute thrill to be able to announce a very special guest, Graham Hancock, who 5 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:48,280 has played a very large role in inspiring me and in the work that I'm doing right now. 6 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,940 And I must tell you, Graham, that without you, I probably wouldn't be doing what I'm 7 00:00:53,980 --> 00:00:59,220 doing today. So a huge, huge word of gratitude to you and the immense work that you've done 8 00:00:59,220 --> 00:01:07,060 in this field. Thank you very much. 9 00:01:07,060 --> 00:01:14,020 There's no doubt that Graham's persistent work and research, and I trust these wives, 10 00:01:14,020 --> 00:01:20,620 Santha has been there as a supporting pillar of strength all the time as these things go. 11 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:26,300 And the photographer, I've been told. And you've seen the spectacular photographs. 12 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:30,740 So the amount of dedication and information that Graham has been able to share with the 13 00:01:30,740 --> 00:01:39,040 world is absolutely staggering. And tonight, the presentation title itself is just so absolutely 14 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:46,100 intriguing and provocative. Elves, angels, aliens, and ayahuasca. Need I say more? Ladies 15 00:01:46,140 --> 00:01:53,140 and gentlemen, Graham Hancock. 16 00:01:56,340 --> 00:02:02,980 Thank you. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Before I begin my talk, I think we all know 17 00:02:02,980 --> 00:02:08,700 that terrible events have unfolded in Japan over the last days. 18 00:02:16,700 --> 00:02:23,700 Terrible events. And as each hour passes, it becomes clear how awful this disaster 19 00:02:25,420 --> 00:02:31,380 is. Upwards of 10,000 have died, if not more. The Earth's axis has been shifted several 20 00:02:31,380 --> 00:02:38,380 inches out of line as a result of this earthquake. Nuclear power plants are melting down, and 21 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:45,560 so many human lives have been lost. So I would like to begin with one minute of silence. 22 00:02:46,100 --> 00:02:53,300 As we put ourselves in spirit with the Japanese people and wish them for the best. 23 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:23,100 Thank you. 24 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:53,100 Thank you. If I've had any role as a 25 00:04:16,420 --> 00:04:23,420 researcher and as a writer, it's been to push the envelope, to stand on the edge of 26 00:04:25,740 --> 00:04:32,740 things and look at things from a perspective that is not mainstream. I've been running 27 00:04:38,140 --> 00:04:45,140 against the current for a very long time, and that is expressed in the body of work 28 00:04:45,340 --> 00:04:51,240 that I've put before the public concerning the possibility of a great forgotten episode 29 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:58,240 in human history. I like to think that the same perspective, bringing a non-mainstream 30 00:05:02,860 --> 00:05:09,860 but reasoned out view of mysteries also enlightens what I'm going to talk about tonight. Many 31 00:05:10,860 --> 00:05:17,860 have found my change of direction in my work disturbing, particularly since the new work 32 00:05:18,260 --> 00:05:24,460 does touch profoundly on altered states of consciousness. And altered states of consciousness 33 00:05:24,460 --> 00:05:31,460 are a taboo subject in our society, which many people are very unwilling to think about 34 00:05:31,460 --> 00:05:37,860 and discuss, but they're central to what I'm going to talk about tonight. And I'm 35 00:05:37,860 --> 00:05:44,860 going to be talking about ayahuasca, the vine of the soul, which is used by shamans 36 00:05:44,860 --> 00:05:51,860 in the Amazon to enter the spirit world and communicate with entities in that realm. 37 00:05:52,780 --> 00:05:59,780 During and after the research for my book, my last non-fiction book, Supernatural, I 38 00:05:59,780 --> 00:06:06,780 was given a series of visions by ayahuasca in a series of five sessions with ayahuasca 39 00:06:09,900 --> 00:06:16,460 in Brazil, where I was given a whole, I was given a story, and I was told to go away 40 00:06:16,460 --> 00:06:23,460 and write that story. And that story is my first novel, Entangled, which concerns very 41 00:06:23,780 --> 00:06:30,780 briefly two young women, one living 24,000 years ago in the past. Her name is Ria, and 42 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:38,620 another living today in modern Los Angeles. Her name is Leonie. And they are brought 43 00:06:38,620 --> 00:06:45,620 together by supernatural forces to do battle with a demon who travels through time and 44 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:53,200 who seeks to divert humanity from our inherent goodness and turn us towards evil. So I'm 45 00:06:53,460 --> 00:06:58,980 sure it's a book about the battle of good against evil, and it's a book about time 46 00:06:58,980 --> 00:07:03,880 travel. They believe in the Amazon that when your spirit leaves your body, you are free 47 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:09,860 to move through all dimensions and through time itself. And the possibility has recently 48 00:07:09,860 --> 00:07:16,860 been raised within quantum physics that time may not be an arrow, that it may be a series 49 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:22,300 of spirals and loops that interconnect with one another, that it may even be possible 50 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:29,080 for us to change the past just as we can change and choose the future. And all of 51 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:36,080 these ideas and concepts came to me through the work that I did with Ayahuasca and writing 52 00:07:37,140 --> 00:07:41,800 supernatural. So I'm not going to talk about the novel tonight, but what I'm going to 53 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:48,800 talk about is the research background behind the novel, which is laid out in depth in my 54 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:56,800 book, Supernatural. And I personally hope that some of my readers will come with me 55 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:04,040 into this new journey into fiction. I've had a lot of my readers are very angry with me 56 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:09,060 that I've written a novel. I've received some incredibly insulting and offensive emails 57 00:08:09,060 --> 00:08:16,060 about this. But I feel very strongly, I felt very strongly called to write this novel, 58 00:08:17,060 --> 00:08:24,060 and I feel that my path for however many years I have left is to explore extraordinary ideas 59 00:08:24,180 --> 00:08:29,260 in the realm of fiction rather than in the realm of nonfiction. One benefit of doing 60 00:08:29,260 --> 00:08:35,060 that at least is I don't have to argue with the academics anymore. I don't have to write 61 00:08:35,060 --> 00:08:42,060 books with 1,400 footnotes. And you know, if they get upset with me about it, I can 62 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:49,500 say, just relax guys, it's just fantasy, you know. And it's allowed me to return to a 63 00:08:49,940 --> 00:08:53,820 place of freedom in my writing that I was really last in when I wrote Fingerprints of 64 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:58,820 the Gods. After that I felt my work became more and more defensive because of the academic 65 00:08:58,820 --> 00:09:05,820 attacks and it's nice to be free again. These creatures that we're looking at here, well 66 00:09:06,020 --> 00:09:13,020 this one of course is, they're very common in popular culture today. This is Anthony 67 00:09:13,180 --> 00:09:19,700 Hopkins done up in makeup as the wolf man. Of course Batman here. Creatures that are 68 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:26,700 part animal and part human in form. The technical term for these creatures is therianthropes 69 00:09:27,420 --> 00:09:34,420 from the Greek therion which means wild beast and anthropos which means man. Here's a Japanese 70 00:09:35,220 --> 00:09:42,220 snake woman down here. Of course a mermaid, a bull man, a lion man. Very familiar images 71 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:50,900 in popular culture today. But let's just see how far back in the human story such images 72 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:57,900 go. I think everybody's familiar with the story of Theseus and the Minotaur from ancient 73 00:09:57,900 --> 00:10:04,260 Greece. The Minotaur is a therianthrope. He's a human body and the head of a bull. And 74 00:10:04,260 --> 00:10:11,260 over here from Akkad we see a creature with the hind legs of a bull and the upper parts 75 00:10:11,340 --> 00:10:18,340 of a human being dated to 1800 BC. Of course the deities of ancient Egypt are almost all 76 00:10:18,340 --> 00:10:25,340 therianthropic in form. Part animal, part human. Thoth for example is part bird and 77 00:10:25,940 --> 00:10:32,940 part human, an ibis headed man. The guide of souls, Anubis, part jackal and part human. 78 00:10:33,980 --> 00:10:39,980 The great sphinx of course is a therianthrope whether he's a dog and a man or a lion and 79 00:10:39,980 --> 00:10:44,980 a man. Robert and I can disagree on such matters but the fact is it's still a therianthropic 80 00:10:44,980 --> 00:10:51,980 image. And here we see from one of the tombs of the nobles on the west bank of Luxor the 81 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:59,500 deceased confronting her own soul and the soul is depicted as a human headed bird with 82 00:11:00,340 --> 00:11:07,340 the same features as the deceased. In fact such imagery is incredibly ancient. The very 83 00:11:07,340 --> 00:11:14,340 oldest piece of art to have come down to us from anywhere in the world, at least that 84 00:11:14,340 --> 00:11:20,340 is accepted by mainstream scholars, is this one. And this is from Fumani cave in Italy 85 00:11:20,340 --> 00:11:27,340 and it has the hind legs and body of a human being but the head of some kind of bull that 86 00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:32,820 would have been an auroch in that case. And this is the most important piece of art in 87 00:11:32,820 --> 00:11:39,820 the world. And here from the cave in Germany carved out of mammoth ivory, this piece is 88 00:11:48,580 --> 00:11:55,580 about knee high. We have a lion headed man also with the paws of a lion. Now we go to 89 00:11:55,580 --> 00:12:02,580 Chauvet cave in France which is 33,000 years old and we see a bison man with the head 90 00:12:05,020 --> 00:12:12,020 and shoulders of a bison and the hind legs of a human being. And in fact very similar 91 00:12:12,420 --> 00:12:19,420 images continue to appear in the painted caves for thousands of years after Chauvet. They 92 00:12:19,420 --> 00:12:26,420 are found in a great many of the painted caves of southern Europe. Like this piece 93 00:12:26,420 --> 00:12:33,420 for example, this is a redrawing of the original, the sorcerer from Trois-Fraires in France, 94 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:40,420 combines the characteristics of a human being, of a horse, of a stag, of an owl and of a 95 00:12:40,460 --> 00:12:47,460 wolf, an extraordinary hybrid animal. And this is a very important piece of art. And 96 00:12:50,420 --> 00:12:54,980 needless to say such things are not seen in everyday life, they are not part of natural 97 00:12:54,980 --> 00:13:01,980 observation. So I think we need to ask ourselves since these are the oldest works of art known 98 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:08,500 to mankind and since they remain with us in human culture today, what was the original 99 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:15,500 inspiration behind such ideas? Where did these ideas come from? And if we draw back from 100 00:13:16,020 --> 00:13:20,020 that image from Chauvet cave, we can see there's more to the picture than I showed 101 00:13:20,020 --> 00:13:27,020 you. Here's the bison man, but he's straddling a large female human figure. But interestingly 102 00:13:31,020 --> 00:13:38,020 that female human figure is headless, headless. However, her right arm is captured by the 103 00:13:39,020 --> 00:13:46,020 artist in the moment of transformation into the head of a lion, like these lions down 104 00:13:46,020 --> 00:13:53,020 here. So let's not waste time by trying to argue that these are depictions of human 105 00:13:53,020 --> 00:13:58,020 beings dressed up in skins. That's not what's going on here. This is a depiction of shape 106 00:13:58,020 --> 00:14:04,020 shifting. This is depiction of transformation and the ancient artist has caught that transformation 107 00:14:05,020 --> 00:14:12,020 as it occurs in this image here. Now the images I'll show you tonight come almost 108 00:14:12,020 --> 00:14:19,020 entirely from Southern Europe and from your own country, South Africa. Santa and I were 109 00:14:20,020 --> 00:14:27,020 able to do a wonderful trip in South Africa guided by just an excellent person and friend 110 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:34,300 of ours, Bocca de Troyes, who took us around the Sederberg and the Drackensberg and took 111 00:14:36,220 --> 00:14:43,220 us to some of the remotest corners where the majestic rock art of the San is to be 112 00:14:43,300 --> 00:14:50,300 found. I could illustrate this talk with rock art from almost anywhere in the world because 113 00:14:50,980 --> 00:14:55,980 one of the mysteries of the rock art is its transpersonal qualities. The fact that cultures 114 00:14:55,980 --> 00:15:02,420 that were not in contact with one another again and again depict almost identical imagery 115 00:15:02,420 --> 00:15:08,240 and identical themes. They may be separated by tens of thousands of miles and by tens 116 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:14,080 of thousands of years, but the imagery is eerily the same. In this case, this piece 117 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:21,080 from the Sederberg, what we see perched on a zigzag are humans captured in the moment 118 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:29,080 of transformation into antelopes. It's another one of those shape shifting images. And here 119 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:37,080 from the Drackensberg, I particularly love this amazing work of art thought to be about 120 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:44,080 8,000 years old, which depicts two therianthropes side by side, human bodies and they have 121 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:50,680 the heads of elans. But there's more to it than that. If you look at the figure on the 122 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,280 left here, you'll see that he's got two feathers growing out of his back as though he's about 123 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:02,280 to sprout wings. And this figure has got two serpents wrapped around his body. That's 124 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,480 what all this is about. That's the bodies of the serpents wrapped around his upper body. 125 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:15,480 And these serpents also have the heads of antelopes. So a really very extraordinary 126 00:16:15,580 --> 00:16:22,580 set of ideas is contained in this South African image from the San of human bodied antelope 127 00:16:23,940 --> 00:16:30,600 headed creatures, one sprouting wings, the other with two antelope headed serpents wrapped 128 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:36,940 around his body. How do we explain this? Certainly the artist did not see this in daily life 129 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:44,220 and then paint it on the cave. This is not realism from daily life. What is it that we're 130 00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:51,460 dealing with here? It's an incredible privilege to go into the painted caves of southern Europe. 131 00:16:51,980 --> 00:16:58,540 Santa and I were able to visit 30 of them. There are more than 300, but the rest are 132 00:16:58,540 --> 00:17:05,380 closed to the public, these incredible and amazing, transformative sacred spaces and 133 00:17:05,380 --> 00:17:12,380 are reserved exclusively for archaeologists. I think of them as underground cathedrals. 134 00:17:16,580 --> 00:17:23,200 The moment you enter into one of these caves, often through winding circuitous passageways, 135 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:28,620 and you hear the water dripping down the walls, you can sense the stalactites and stalagmites 136 00:17:29,020 --> 00:17:36,020 forming. There's a coolness in the air, a hush descends. It's an extraordinary privilege 137 00:17:40,060 --> 00:17:45,500 to be in these places. And by the way, they were never lived in by our ancestors. The 138 00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:52,180 idea of cavemen is completely incorrect. Our ancestors did not live in these caves. They 139 00:17:52,180 --> 00:17:57,780 used them as sacred spaces. They were often visited by very few people in repeated visits 140 00:17:57,780 --> 00:18:04,780 over thousands and thousands of years. And there was no question of our ancestors living 141 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:12,100 in them. So some kind of communion with spirit realms was going on in these caves. 142 00:18:13,900 --> 00:18:19,540 Now there's a lot of recognisable animals painted around the walls of the cave, but 143 00:18:19,540 --> 00:18:25,700 some of them are a little strange. Like this one over here, which we'll take a close-up 144 00:18:25,780 --> 00:18:31,860 on. This one, in their wisdom, the archaeologists choose to call the unicorn, even though he 145 00:18:31,860 --> 00:18:38,860 has actually got two horns, very plainly. What exactly he is, is not at all clear, 146 00:18:39,340 --> 00:18:43,220 but I'll show you another image later from a completely other part of the world, which 147 00:18:43,220 --> 00:18:49,540 I believe ties in with this image. And then look at this stag with these incredibly elaborate 148 00:18:49,540 --> 00:18:55,540 antlers. And something else we need to explain about this art. Down here, this, this is a 149 00:18:55,780 --> 00:19:01,140 geometrical pattern. This rectangle appears below the throat of the stag. And we can 150 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:05,940 see going quickly through a number of other pictures that these sort of geometrical patterns, 151 00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:12,300 grids, squares, rectangles, straight lines appear again and again in the rock art. So 152 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:17,540 if we're going to explain the rock art, we need to explain all elements of it, including 153 00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:24,020 these geometrical patterns. Like here, for example, this grid separating two ibexes 154 00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:31,420 from southern Europe. Or here from the Cederberg, dancing women. They were not originally headless, 155 00:19:32,660 --> 00:19:37,140 by the way. It's just that the heads were painted in a lighter pigment, which has faded 156 00:19:37,140 --> 00:19:43,860 out. But what's interesting is the zigzag lines overlaying these figures and this pattern 157 00:19:43,860 --> 00:19:49,620 of diamonds down here. They are part of the original work of art. Why are they there? 158 00:19:49,620 --> 00:19:56,020 How do we explain this? And cross-cultural similarities. These kind of patterns from 159 00:19:56,020 --> 00:20:03,020 the Cederberg and very similar patterns from Altamira Cave in Spain. El Castillo Cave in 160 00:20:04,820 --> 00:20:11,300 Spain, a flow of dots runs down the wall. More geometrical patterns appear. This is 161 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:18,300 a thought to be close to 33,000 years old, painted in red ochre. And everywhere you 162 00:20:20,060 --> 00:20:25,340 go, hand prints appear on the walls. That's true of South Africa and it's true of southern 163 00:20:25,340 --> 00:20:30,580 Europe and it's true of rock art all around the world. Sometimes the artist applied the 164 00:20:30,580 --> 00:20:34,780 paint to his or her hand and slapped it on the wall. Sometimes they would place their 165 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:41,460 hand against the wall and spit paint around it. So the hand becomes a stencil, as in this 166 00:20:41,460 --> 00:20:48,180 case. The more of these sites that I visited, the more an eerie impression began to dawn 167 00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:55,180 on me. That the cave wall was a membrane separating me off from another realm. And that those 168 00:20:57,380 --> 00:21:03,300 hands, they were coming through the wall from the other side, from the other side of that 169 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:10,300 membrane. There's a sense of intimate contact with a human being long gone. And that sense 170 00:21:11,940 --> 00:21:17,340 of also coming through the wall we see here from Altamira Cave in Spain, where the ancient 171 00:21:17,340 --> 00:21:23,060 artist has just tweaked a little bit with a little bit of paint, a natural rock feature, 172 00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:30,060 and we see this strange face pushing through the rock wall. And overlooking them all, 173 00:21:31,060 --> 00:21:37,100 everywhere you go, these therianthropic beings, part animal, part human in form, shifting 174 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:44,100 shape, changing their appearance. All of this we have to be able to explain. It's not often 175 00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:49,660 that I find myself in agreement with mainstream archaeologists. But on this issue, how we 176 00:21:49,660 --> 00:21:55,680 explain the rock art, its specific characteristics, and its universal characteristics, I want 177 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,840 to pay tribute to the fantastic work of a major, major South African scholar. And that's 178 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:07,840 Professor David Lewis Williams of Witwatersrand University, of the Rock Art Research Institute. 179 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:15,240 When David first proposed his neuropsychological theory of rock art, he was attacked by virtually 180 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:22,120 every archaeologist on the planet. Archaeologists hate new ideas. They just can't bear them. 181 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:28,960 But David's work is so incredibly well documented and thoroughly supported and researched with 182 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:34,840 enormous dedication and skill that gradually, over the last 20 plus years, he has won over 183 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:41,840 all his colleagues. And his neuropsychological theory of rock art is now universally accepted. 184 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,800 It's the mainstream theory of rock art. And to cut a long story short, I don't have time 185 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:54,800 tonight to lay out the evidence. It is all in my book, Supernatural, that David is arguing 186 00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:00,920 that this is an art of visions. It's an art of altered states of consciousness. Specifically, 187 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:07,920 it's an art of shamans. That shamans entering trance states experienced visions which they 188 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:16,680 then returned to a normal state of consciousness and depicted on the cave walls or rock shelters 189 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:23,840 what they'd seen. And this issue of visions really is the underlying factor that explains 190 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:33,680 all of this rock art. Here are some of David's very important books, which I would highly 191 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:39,640 recommend that you have a look at, particularly The Mind in the Cave, which is really a work 192 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:46,640 of genius. And a lot of David's work, the scientific evidence for it, is drawn from 193 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:56,360 scientific studies of altered states of consciousness that were done with modern volunteers and 194 00:23:56,860 --> 00:24:03,860 very frequently using hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD, dimethyltryptamine, mescaline, 195 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,220 psilocybin and so on, although some other techniques such as bombardment with electromagnetic 196 00:24:09,540 --> 00:24:16,380 fields, sensory deprivation and so on, even rhythmic drumming, will induce the necessary 197 00:24:16,380 --> 00:24:22,340 altered state of consciousness to have these experiences. And precisely what these experiences 198 00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:29,220 are, I'll try to come to a little later on. Now, the in-depth scientific studies of altered 199 00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:36,220 states of consciousness have come up with a broad schema of how the trance state unfolds. 200 00:24:36,580 --> 00:24:43,580 And typically, this is what happens. It's not every time exactly like this, but often 201 00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:49,720 it is. That in the early stages of trance, scintillating patterns, often geometrical 202 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:56,720 patterns are seen, and zigzag lines and starbursts and spirals and grids are seen. And then 203 00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:04,340 moving deeper into trance, these tend to be construed in certain forms. Then there's 204 00:25:04,340 --> 00:25:11,300 a sense of passing through a vortex and of emerging on the other side of the vortex 205 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:17,400 into a seamlessly convincing parallel universe. And that parallel universe is frequently 206 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:23,320 inhabited by intelligent entities who the volunteers reported communicated with them 207 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:30,320 telepathically. This was from a mescaline study in the 1960s. And as you can see, as 208 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:36,000 well as the zigzag lines and the dots, the volunteer drew a man in a modern business 209 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,840 suit but with the head of a fox. This is what he had seen. And it's obvious that it's 210 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:46,320 very, very similar in concept to those images of therianthropes from the painted caves 211 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,640 tens of thousands of years ago. Again, with the scientific studies, it's been possible 212 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:57,360 to draw up a chart, actually, of the patterns that everybody sees and reports in these altered 213 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,440 states of consciousness. And these patterns are called entoptic phenomena. And these are 214 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:09,680 the most common patterns that volunteers all over the world drew again and again. David's 215 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,640 work is strengthened with reference to the San of South Africa and the Koso of the California 216 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:21,640 Great Basin. Although the San are now an extinct culture, of course, their relatives, the 217 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,480 Kalahari Bushmen, continue, but the San of South Africa are an extinct culture. Although 218 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:33,000 they're an extinct culture, back in the late 1900s and early 20th century, their last 219 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:39,040 survivors were approached by Western ethnographers who asked them, actually, specifically, what 220 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,600 is this rock art that you guys have been doing for thousands of years? And they told them, 221 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,240 very straightforwardly, it's the work of our shamans. They enter trance through the trance 222 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:54,040 dance. They travel out of body into the spirit world. And they return and document what they've 223 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:58,800 seen on the rock walls. And the same goes for the Koso in the California Great Basin. 224 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,200 They reported that these patterns also were seen by their medicine men, their shamans, 225 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,540 in a state of vision. So although we cannot actually go back and interview the artists 226 00:27:07,540 --> 00:27:13,680 of the Upper Paleolithic, the fact that those same universal images also appear in their 227 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:19,600 art, tell us, really, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that we were, that it is an art of 228 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:26,600 altered states of consciousness and an art of shamans. And indeed, the essence of shamanism 229 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,880 is altered states of consciousness. If somebody says they're a shaman and they remain in 230 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,360 the normal, alert, problem-solving state of consciousness that we use for daily life, 231 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:41,400 I would say that that person is not a shaman. I would say they may be many wonderful things, 232 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:47,640 but they're not a shaman. Shamanism, the definition of shamanism, involves always altered states 233 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,040 of consciousness. And in these states, in these trance states, shamans report encounters 234 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:58,120 with entities, which they usually construe as spirits, which sometimes take human form, 235 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:04,020 sometimes appear as part animal, part human, or animal in form. And the shamans themselves 236 00:28:04,020 --> 00:28:10,960 report transforming into animals as they enter the spirit world or into Therianthropes. 237 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:16,840 This English word, this word that we now use, shaman, is borrowed from a particular 238 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:22,560 culture and that's the Tungus Mongol. When ethnographers first started to travel amongst 239 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:29,560 them, they noticed that they had ritual functionaries who went into trance states and communicated 240 00:28:30,140 --> 00:28:35,620 with what they construed to be spirits and came back with healing remedies for members 241 00:28:35,620 --> 00:28:41,220 of their tribes. And as Western ethnographers continued to travel around the world, they 242 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:46,500 found that very, very many cultures around the world, particularly tribal and hunter-gatherer 243 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:51,160 cultures had similar ritual functionaries. So that Tungus Mongol word, shaman, meaning 244 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,080 one who knows, was transposed to these other cultures. Of course, they called their shamans 245 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:03,080 by different names, but what they were doing was exactly the same thing. Now, Weston Labarre 246 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,480 put his finger on the issue with the Tungus Mongol shamans and how they get into altered 247 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,000 states of consciousness. They eat, he said, narcotic mushrooms and in their hallucinations 248 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,920 visit the world of the spirits where they get answers to questions posed to them. Actually, 249 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,080 the Amanita muscaria, the fly agaric, is by no means a narcotic. It's misdescribed as 250 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:31,080 a narcotic. It's a powerful psychedelic, a hallucinogenic mushroom. And it isn't an accident 251 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:39,080 that the fly agaric colors are the same as those of Father Christmas. Because hidden 252 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:48,080 in the Father Christmas story is an ancient shamanistic body of experience. I have to 253 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:55,040 say something a little bit disgusting here, but the Amanita muscaria mushroom as a changer 254 00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:02,080 of consciousness is not efficient when consumed directly. What they noticed in Siberia was 255 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,280 reindeer eating these mushrooms. And I don't know how they worked it out, but if they 256 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:17,160 collected the urine of the reindeer and then drank the urine after they had eaten the 257 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,220 mushroom, then they would immediately enter a deep trance-like state. And actually the 258 00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:26,700 chemistry of this is that passing through the filter of a body, the impurities are 259 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:33,700 removed from the mushroom and its pure psychedelic elements remain. And indeed the shamans themselves, 260 00:30:33,780 --> 00:30:39,140 sorry about this, urinate into bowls which members of the tribe then drink. And in fact 261 00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:46,140 it's been demonstrated that the potency remains strong, passed through seven human bodies. 262 00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:54,140 Now, back to those reindeer and the reindeer consuming the mushrooms and the shamans drinking 263 00:30:54,460 --> 00:30:59,780 their urine. Very frequently when the shamans leave their bodies, they experience themselves 264 00:30:59,780 --> 00:31:05,980 flying through the sky on supernatural reindeer. And they then, when they return to their 265 00:31:05,980 --> 00:31:12,620 hut, they return through the smoke hole, the chimney hole in the chimney and come back 266 00:31:12,660 --> 00:31:16,260 to a normal state of consciousness. I think it's obvious that we're dealing with the 267 00:31:16,260 --> 00:31:22,980 same iconography with the Father Christmas story here. And the use of Amanita muscaria 268 00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:29,020 is quite widespread. It's found also in North America. And again, these colors keep cropping 269 00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:36,020 up again and again. Peyote is another important visionary plant used by the shamans of the 270 00:31:36,220 --> 00:31:43,220 huichol and other Native American groups. And datura, used by the Zuni for vision quests, 271 00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:52,900 a powerful and sometimes extremely dangerous hallucinogen. It's not only visionary plants. 272 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,600 Various physical techniques will induce the necessary altered state of consciousness. 273 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:06,360 In the case of the Native American Sundance, it's pain, it's austerity, which affects 274 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:11,640 the necessary changes in the brain. And amongst the Kalahari Bushmen, who also do not use 275 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:18,640 drugs, it is a dance, the trance dance, which I'm sure many in this room are familiar with, 276 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:25,640 where the shamans of the Kalahari Bushmen will dance for hours, 12, 24 hours, around 277 00:32:25,780 --> 00:32:32,660 a fire, becoming intensely dehydrated until at a certain point they sense their spirits 278 00:32:32,660 --> 00:32:37,760 leaving their body and rising up into the heavens where they communicate with the spirits 279 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:44,760 and come back with information that is valuable to their tribe. Well, we all know about magic 280 00:32:45,460 --> 00:32:51,220 mushrooms, which have been popular amongst youth in the West for quite a while, but not 281 00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:57,740 for that long. Although magic mushrooms have always existed in Europe, their use was forgotten 282 00:32:57,740 --> 00:33:04,740 until 1957, when this man, Gordon Wasson, a mycologist, heard of a mushroom cult in 283 00:33:04,740 --> 00:33:11,740 Mexico. And he went down to Mexico and he met Maria Sabina, a shaman who used psilocybin 284 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:20,960 mushrooms to enter a deep trance state and do her work in the realm of the spirits. 285 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:27,400 And so she gave the mushrooms to Gordon Wasson and he had a series of extraordinary and 286 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:33,380 life-changing experiences, which he came back and reported in Life Magazine on May 13, 287 00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:40,320 1957, the discovery of mushrooms that cause strange visions. It's due to that magazine 288 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:47,320 article that the explosion of interest in magic mushrooms in the West occurred. In Africa, 289 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:55,320 it's iboga in Central Africa, iboga, the plant that enables men to see the dead. I need to 290 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,960 add here, I've always felt as a researcher that it's pointless for me to write about 291 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:05,120 something if I don't experience it myself. I can't sit in an armchair. That's why Santha 292 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,200 and I did nearly seven years of scuba diving looking for underwater ruins. I can't just 293 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,720 talk about these things without experiencing them. So I have naturally worked with virtually 294 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:21,200 all of these visionary plants. But one of them that I definitely won't be working with 295 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:28,200 again is iboga, which made me so ill for 48 hours that I literally couldn't move. I had 296 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,880 to be lifted and carried wherever, wherever I had to go. I was in a great deal of pain. 297 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:42,880 I felt that my body had been literally torn apart and slowly, gradually as the effect 298 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:50,720 wore off, began to be reassembled. But I did have one powerful visionary encounter during 299 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,560 that experience, and that was with the spirit of my recently deceased father. It was a 300 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:03,560 tantalizing encounter, but it was incredibly important to me. It helped me to get closure. 301 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:11,320 I had not been with my father at the moment that he died. And I beat myself up for a long 302 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:17,680 time after that. But this encounter with my dad under the influence of iboga was enormously 303 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,280 healing for me. And it's used for that purpose in Central Africa too, because often when 304 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,360 we lose a relative, we do not have closure with them. There are issues that remain to 305 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,200 be discussed, and that's why they call it the plant that enables men to see the dead. 306 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,360 It's part of a widespread religion in Central Africa now in Gabon and Cameroon. As a matter 307 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:42,240 of fact, the president of Gabon is a member of the Buiti who use iboga. In the Amazon, 308 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:46,400 it's ayahuasca, which means the vine of souls or the vine of the dead, a rather similar 309 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:53,400 idea to iboga. It's extremely ancient use in South America throughout the Amazon Basin. 310 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,600 It's used by more than 70 different indigenous cultures, and we have archaeological evidence 311 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:09,640 of its use going back more than 4,000 years in the Amazon. And although ayahuasca contains 312 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:16,800 the Schedule I drug dimethyltryptamine, an extremely potent hallucinogen which is highly 313 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,620 illegal in all Western countries and virtually everywhere else in the world, throughout South 314 00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:28,620 America the use of ayahuasca is totally legal, and not only legal, but protected as a cultural 315 00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:36,620 treasure by all governments in that region. They hold the view that this is an ancient 316 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:41,440 ceremonial right of human beings, that it is a fundamental right of human beings to 317 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,100 drink and work with ayahuasca, so they've resisted pressure from the United States 318 00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:51,540 government to make ayahuasca illegal, and they protect its use as a national treasure. 319 00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:56,540 It's come out of the jungles, it's found its way into the cities where it has taken 320 00:36:56,580 --> 00:37:03,580 form of churches. Here we have the Santo Demy Church here of Brazil, which mingles shamanism 321 00:37:03,860 --> 00:37:10,860 with Christianity, and they use ayahuasca as their sacrament. And here the Unia de 322 00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:17,860 Vegetal, another of these syncretic churches, which again they use ayahuasca as their sacrament. 323 00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:25,660 And more and more Westerners are traveling to Peru, to Brazil, to drink ayahuasca with 324 00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:32,340 the shamans there, in an environment that is free of fear of legal persecution, and 325 00:37:32,340 --> 00:37:36,400 where they are in the good hands of people who are enormously experienced with these 326 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:42,180 mysterious plants. And I want to emphasize at this point I am not here to advocate drugs, 327 00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:47,620 that is not my purpose. Actually I'm here to advocate adult responsibility. And one 328 00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:51,160 of the things that I object to about Western governments is that they are more and more 329 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,560 stepping into the role of the responsible adult, and telling us what to think and do. 330 00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:01,720 We need to take responsibility for our own lives, and that includes, thank you, thank 331 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:08,720 you, includes responsibility for what we put into our bodies. And it's important to understand 332 00:38:11,060 --> 00:38:17,280 that these visionary plants, these hallucinogens, are extremely serious business. They have 333 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,600 no business being used for recreation. If they are used for recreation, the consequences 334 00:38:22,820 --> 00:38:29,340 can be disastrous. These plants have to be treated with respect, deep respect. They 335 00:38:29,340 --> 00:38:36,340 are part of an ancient sacred ceremony throughout the history of the human race. And it's important 336 00:38:36,780 --> 00:38:41,560 to have the guidance of somebody who knows what they're doing, and that is what the 337 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:48,160 shaman is. He's a person who is deeply versed in altered states of consciousness. If we're 338 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,800 going to work with these plants successfully in the West, we need to create a Western form 339 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,620 of shamanism. And I hope that that's something we will see in due course. In fact, it's 340 00:38:57,620 --> 00:39:04,620 already emerging. So here I am in the Amazon with Francisco Monteschuna, a shaman, and 341 00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:11,820 he's having me pick leaves from this bush. And this bush is called chacruna in the Amazon, 342 00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:18,780 and it's known as Cicotria viridis. That's its botanical name. And its leaves contain 343 00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:25,420 pharmacologically pure form of DMT, dimethyltryptamine, that very powerful hallucinogen, which is 344 00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:31,480 going to be brewed into a tea and drunk. However, if you were to brew the leaves on their own 345 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:37,260 into a tea, you could drink 100 gallons of it, and it would have no effect on you whatsoever. 346 00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:42,340 The reason for that is that there's an enzyme in our stomachs called monoamine oxidase, 347 00:39:42,340 --> 00:39:49,340 which switches off DMT on contact. But in the Amazon, they found a way to make it work 348 00:39:50,180 --> 00:39:56,180 in a beverage. And the way is this. It involves this other plant, and this is the ayahuasca 349 00:39:56,180 --> 00:40:02,340 vine, behind which the shamans of the Amazon believe lies an intelligent spirit, an entity 350 00:40:02,340 --> 00:40:06,780 who loves and cares for the human race. And they say that she has chosen to work with 351 00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:13,780 the leaf from the other plant in order to reach us. This vine contains a monoamine 352 00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:19,980 oxidase inhibitor, which allows the DMT in the leaves to be absorbed orally, producing 353 00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:26,980 a four-hour journey. So it's a mixture of the leaves of Cicotria viridis and the vine 354 00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:33,420 Banisteriopsis carpi that goes into the ayahuasca brew. Lengths of the vine are broken up by 355 00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:39,180 the shaman placed into an iron pot. Three hundred leaves of Cicotria viridis are placed 356 00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:43,980 on top. More lengths of the vine on top of that. Boil it down for hours and hours. Pour 357 00:40:43,980 --> 00:40:49,140 off the residue, usually into plastic bottles these days. And finally, you're left with 358 00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:56,140 about a liter of this dark and sinister-looking brew. This is the ayahuasca brew. I'm sure 359 00:40:57,860 --> 00:41:02,580 some in this room have drunk ayahuasca. They'll probably agree with me that it is amongst 360 00:41:02,620 --> 00:41:09,620 the worst tastes on the planet. If you envisage a pile of old socks, some sulfur, some raw 361 00:41:10,340 --> 00:41:15,620 sewage, a little battery acid, and just a hint of chocolate, that would about sum up 362 00:41:15,620 --> 00:41:20,980 the taste of ayahuasca. Let's not pretend that anybody's going to do this for fun. This 363 00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:27,100 is not recreation. It is a shudderingly awful taste. You have to brace yourself to swallow 364 00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:32,940 it. And then you have to accept the next thing. It's not called the purge in the Amazon 365 00:41:32,940 --> 00:41:39,940 without good reason. It is a powerful purgative. You will have diarrhea. You will have vomiting. 366 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:46,260 And all of this will unfold in a fairly public setting, sitting in a circle in the jungle, 367 00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:50,700 for example. First time I had to go jump behind a tree, I was very embarrassed, you know. 368 00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:56,420 I mean, we're very inhibited in Britain. But that was the first lesson that the ayahuasca 369 00:41:56,740 --> 00:42:00,620 vine taught me, is that our bodies are actually the least important part of ourselves, and 370 00:42:00,620 --> 00:42:04,940 what is the most important part of ourselves is our consciousness. And what is happening 371 00:42:04,940 --> 00:42:11,940 at the level of consciousness with ayahuasca is truly extraordinary. It's truly extraordinary. 372 00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:17,380 Martina Hoffman is an American artist living in Boulder, Colorado, who works a lot with 373 00:42:17,380 --> 00:42:24,380 ayahuasca, and she's depicting here an experience with the ayahuasca vine. The ayahuasca vine 374 00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:31,540 is, as I mentioned, is an entity, an intelligence, a spirit, who sometimes appears as a human 375 00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:38,540 woman, sometimes as a jaguar, very often as a serpent. And Martina is depicting the only 376 00:42:38,660 --> 00:42:43,660 possible attitude that one may take towards mother ayahuasca, which is an attitude of 377 00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:49,380 complete surrender, and let her work with you, which is what she does. And very often 378 00:42:49,460 --> 00:42:56,460 she will cause you, I speak of her as a she, because mother ayahuasca is a female entity. 379 00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:00,860 She will work with you, she will show you episodes from your life where you've been 380 00:43:00,860 --> 00:43:06,860 hurtful or damaging to other people. She will give you the opportunity to fix that behavior. 381 00:43:06,860 --> 00:43:11,340 I found myself again and again in floods of tears during ayahuasca sessions, as I've 382 00:43:11,340 --> 00:43:16,580 seen the pain that I've caused to others, sometimes inadvertently or thoughtlessly. 383 00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:23,700 And it takes years to overcome a lifetime of bad habits, but I am working on overcoming 384 00:43:24,340 --> 00:43:30,580 my many, many bad habits. I haven't yet got nearly there, but I feel that it's an important 385 00:43:30,580 --> 00:43:35,620 part of my life's work, is to make myself into a better human being, and ayahuasca has 386 00:43:35,620 --> 00:43:42,620 taught me that. The other thing that happens with ayahuasca is these encounters with non-physical 387 00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:48,140 intelligences, and the sense of entering into an enchanted realm. And here is the 388 00:43:48,140 --> 00:43:54,340 work of Pablo Amaringo, a great Amazonian shaman who unfortunately passed away last 389 00:43:54,340 --> 00:44:01,340 year. And for those who have not drunk ayahuasca, his artwork really sums up beautifully the 390 00:44:01,420 --> 00:44:08,420 ayahuasca experience, this sense of a vibrant, sentient, organic jungle realm will be experienced 391 00:44:09,340 --> 00:44:12,660 by drinkers of ayahuasca, whether they're in the middle of New York City or the middle 392 00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:19,660 of the Amazon itself, and with the animals gazing at one with this fixed, burning, intelligent 393 00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:28,420 gaze. Sometimes you might experience yourself lifted up into the sky and carried off into 394 00:44:28,420 --> 00:44:33,460 that enchanted realm. You may be provided with a vehicle here, birds, in this painting 395 00:44:33,460 --> 00:44:40,260 of Pablo Amaringo's. Sometimes you may be carried below the ground into an underworld 396 00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:46,860 of spirits. Sometimes there's a sense of going underwater. We here see the shaman being drawn 397 00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:52,140 beneath the rivers of the Amazon by two mermaids, of course they're therianthropes, and carried 398 00:44:52,140 --> 00:44:58,060 down to Encante, the enchanted city that everyone in the Amazon knows lies beneath the waters 399 00:44:58,060 --> 00:45:02,660 of that great river. You'll never find Encante by scuba diving, you're only going to find 400 00:45:02,660 --> 00:45:09,660 it by drinking ayahuasca. And there are astonishing universals in the experiences of people all 401 00:45:09,820 --> 00:45:14,540 around the world who've drunk ayahuasca, and the most universal of all is that everyone 402 00:45:14,540 --> 00:45:21,540 sees serpents during ayahuasca visions. And these serpents may be very small or very large, 403 00:45:22,580 --> 00:45:28,340 sometimes they loom in front of you with their jaws open. What the shaman says, do not fear, 404 00:45:28,340 --> 00:45:32,860 throw yourself into that open mouth, you will not die in that realm, don't hold back 405 00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:36,300 from the experience. But it's one thing to be told that, and believe me it's another 406 00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:43,300 thing to do it when you're confronted by a 300 foot long serpent. But there you go. 407 00:45:43,940 --> 00:45:49,380 Again just more of those images. And another universal is the appearance of therianthropes 408 00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:56,380 in ayahuasca. Here, feline bodies and human heads. And here again from Pablo's art, a 409 00:45:58,340 --> 00:46:05,340 crocodile headed man, a bird headed man. And from Martina Hoffman's art, this amazing 410 00:46:06,860 --> 00:46:11,780 therianthropic image came from an ayahuasca session. If you want chapter and verse on 411 00:46:11,780 --> 00:46:16,180 this, Professor Benny Shannon is the professor of psychology at the Hebrew University in 412 00:46:16,180 --> 00:46:22,660 Jerusalem. He's one of the leading world experts on ayahuasca. He's drunk ayahuasca 413 00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:29,660 more than 400 times himself, which takes some stamina, believe me. And he's interviewed 414 00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:35,500 hundreds and hundreds of drinkers of ayahuasca all around the world and he's compared and 415 00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:41,660 contrasted their experiences very, very, very usefully. And he's demonstrated astonishing 416 00:46:41,660 --> 00:46:46,140 universals that come up from people who've never compared notes. They all appear to be 417 00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:51,460 looking in to the same realms and meeting the same entities. And just on that theme 418 00:46:51,460 --> 00:46:57,820 of universals here from South Africa, an extended human figure with a great serpent wrapped 419 00:46:57,820 --> 00:47:02,980 around it. Here from one of Pablo's ayahuasca visions, a serpent wrapped around a human 420 00:47:02,980 --> 00:47:09,980 leg. Here the panel of the spotted horses from Pechmerle in France. Here a spotted 421 00:47:10,260 --> 00:47:16,180 bull, very similar kind of idea from the ayahuasca visions. That strange animal from 422 00:47:16,180 --> 00:47:23,180 Lascaux, almost identical animal was drawn in 1958 by a Jivaro shaman from eastern Ecuador 423 00:47:23,820 --> 00:47:30,820 after an ayahuasca session. I'm not saying that they were drinking ayahuasca in Lascaux 424 00:47:31,740 --> 00:47:37,320 or here in South Africa because ayahuasca is indigenous to South America and it never 425 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:43,080 originally grew in any other part of the world. But I am suggesting that psychedelic 426 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:50,080 mushrooms were used in Europe. I believe it was psilocybe semulanciata and psilocybe 427 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:55,800 hispanica which were the main instruments of our Stone Age ancestors. And indeed New 428 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,640 Scientist magazine has just announced on the 6th of March 2011 the earliest evidence for 429 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:08,040 mushroom use in Europe where we see psilocybe hispanica on the walls of this painted cave. 430 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:17,600 Whether it's psilocybes or ayahuasca or DMT in pure form, the experience is one of boundaries 431 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:24,440 breaking down, of a connection to a wider universe, to a wider realm. And that's why 432 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,480 I want to just show you the context now of this therianthrope up here in Pablo Amaringo's 433 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:36,480 painting What Do We See? A Flying Saucer. What's that doing there in an Amazonian shaman's 434 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:43,840 painting from 1986? I asked Pablo about his flying saucers and I said what's all this 435 00:48:46,140 --> 00:48:52,580 about Pablo? Why are you painting flying saucers? Have you been watching the X-Files? And he 436 00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:59,620 said no, no, these are not about what you call extraterrestrials. He said these are 437 00:48:59,620 --> 00:49:06,620 vehicles for entering and leaving the spirit world. That's what flying saucers are. And 438 00:49:07,060 --> 00:49:12,380 when a shaman talks about the spirit world, I feel he's not very far away from quantum 439 00:49:12,380 --> 00:49:19,380 physicists when they talk about parallel universes and parallel worlds. So I'm going to just 440 00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:26,380 briefly go through what are these things that we call aliens and UFOs and ET abductions. 441 00:49:27,420 --> 00:49:32,260 Because many of the experiences that shamans report with spirits are just the same. I'll 442 00:49:32,260 --> 00:49:38,420 leave that slide at the moment because I have to rush on. We know a lot about the alien 443 00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:43,300 abduction phenomenon from the work of a number of serious researchers in the West, notably 444 00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:48,300 the late Professor John Mack, who was Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard University. Harvard 445 00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:52,100 tried to sack him when he started to work with people who believed they'd been abducted 446 00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:57,420 by UFOs, but he managed to hold on to his job thanks to a very good lawyer called Danny 447 00:49:57,420 --> 00:50:03,700 Sheehan. John was actually persecuted for taking seriously UFO abduction reports. He 448 00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:08,860 was cast out into the academic wilderness, but he continued to do the work. And as a 449 00:50:08,860 --> 00:50:13,140 result, we have thousands of hours of recordings of John's interviews with people who believed 450 00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:18,160 they'd been abducted by UFOs. That's a body of data that we can use for cross-cultural 451 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:24,040 comparisons. And here's the first comparison. Of course, the familiar image of the gray 452 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:29,440 dominates our ideas of alien abductions today. But actually, many UFO abductees report that 453 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:35,640 they first encounter the alien in the form of an animal or in the form of a therianthrope. 454 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,480 And you can read this for yourselves. An intelligent gray deer, a deer, a wolf. John sums it up. 455 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,960 The aliens appear to be consummate shape-shifters, often appearing initially to the abductees 456 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,760 as animals. Owls, eagles, raccoons, and deer are among the creatures the abductees have 457 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:56,760 seen initially. The sense of being taken up into the sky. Here's some sand rock art. 458 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,920 Sometimes it's a matter of floating up into the sky. Often it's a matter of climbing 459 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:07,920 up a thread or a rope of light. This experience is reported again and again by shamans and 460 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:14,600 again and again by UFO abductees. The sense of being carried down into a cave or into 461 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:20,880 an underworld. Very common experience amongst shamans and very common experience amongst 462 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:27,720 UFO abductees. Betty Aho, a UFO, took her into huge crystalline caverns. Carlos Dios 463 00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:34,600 saw a UFO, found himself inside a cave that was lined with stalactites and stalagmites. 464 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,760 And the universal experience of shamanism is known as the shamanic ordeal, where the 465 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:45,280 experiences himself pierced, cut to pieces by the spirits and then reassembled. Very 466 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,840 often the spirits will carry out bizarre surgical procedures on the body of the shaman, 467 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:56,820 will insert objects into his skin or into his brain. And if you want chapter and verse 468 00:51:56,820 --> 00:52:03,820 on this, read Mercy Eliade's majestic work, Shamanism, which records hundreds of examples 469 00:52:03,940 --> 00:52:10,240 of these experiences from all around the world amongst shamans. And of course the experience 470 00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:17,240 of surgery and painful piercings and implants being put into the body is very, very common 471 00:52:19,660 --> 00:52:26,660 amongst UFO abductees as well. Exactly the same thing that shamans are reporting. Shamans 472 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:33,020 very frequently report having sex with spirits. I do know a shaman in the Amazon whose wife 473 00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:37,980 has left him because of his activities with spirits in the spirit world. He's actually 474 00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:44,620 got kids over there who he repeatedly visits. And again, this is another feature of the 475 00:52:44,620 --> 00:52:50,360 UFO abduction experience, that UFO abductees do report sex with the beings that they construe 476 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:56,820 as aliens, do report hybrid children, do report being re-abducted again and again and again 477 00:52:56,900 --> 00:53:03,900 to nurture those children. What about books? Maria Sabina was given a book by a spirit 478 00:53:05,300 --> 00:53:10,160 and she learned many things from it. It helped her to help people who need help and know 479 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,020 the secrets of the world where everything is known. But she wasn't allowed to bring 480 00:53:14,020 --> 00:53:20,700 the book back. It remains in the sky. Same for Betty Hill, abducted in 1961. The leader 481 00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:25,220 of the aliens gave her a book but wouldn't let her bring it back to earth. Betty Andreessen 482 00:53:25,380 --> 00:53:31,700 was given a small blue book with 40 luminous pages but soon afterwards it disappeared. 483 00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:38,700 What are these things? Fairies and elves which began to become ridiculous and to disappear 484 00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:45,500 from western culture just at the time that UFO sightings really began. In the 1940s 485 00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:49,480 and 50s that was about the last time you could be taken seriously talking about being abducted 486 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:55,140 by a fairy and that was just about the beginning of reported encounters with UFOs and aliens. 487 00:53:55,620 --> 00:53:59,420 Once again these entities called fairies and elves have an astonishing amount in common 488 00:53:59,420 --> 00:54:05,580 with aliens and spirits. I want to pay tribute to the work of Jacques Vallee and his extraordinary 489 00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:11,600 book Passport to Magonia published in 1969 which was the first book to document the 490 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:16,300 amazing similarities between the entities that we used to call fairies and the entities 491 00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:22,820 that we call aliens today. What I did in Supernatural was to take that work on from 1969 and bring 492 00:54:22,820 --> 00:54:26,660 it right up to date because of course there's much more evidence on the UFO abduction side 493 00:54:26,660 --> 00:54:33,660 of things since 1969. So fairies they were in the business of abductions too just like 494 00:54:33,860 --> 00:54:38,260 aliens and you didn't want to come close to the fairy dance if you were to touch it you'd 495 00:54:38,260 --> 00:54:42,940 be drawn into it and suddenly bang you'd find yourself in another world. You might 496 00:54:42,940 --> 00:54:47,660 experience a few hours or a day and a night passing there when they brought you back to 497 00:54:47,660 --> 00:54:51,860 your homeland you might find that a hundred years had passed and that you were just a 498 00:54:51,860 --> 00:54:56,140 memory in the village that you came from. A bit like the phenomenon of missing time 499 00:54:56,140 --> 00:55:01,320 reported by many UFO abductees but it seems that they've refined the problem because 500 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:06,480 nowadays people only lose five or six hours of time. Fairies could be cruel, they could 501 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,940 hurt human beings but they could also give gifts including healing gifts. Fairies had 502 00:55:11,940 --> 00:55:17,180 the power of flight, they used aerial vehicles construed as flying castles or flying carriages 503 00:55:17,220 --> 00:55:23,500 etc. Fairy abductions frequently involved being abducted underground into caves as 504 00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:30,500 is demonstrated here and fairies also very frequently appeared in animal and therianthropic 505 00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:37,700 form. I keep this woodcut at home in England. It is from the Holland in the 15th century 506 00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:45,700 and here we see a group of fairies dancing in a ring and those fairies are clearly therianthropes 507 00:55:46,220 --> 00:55:53,220 part animal, part human in form. Melucine was a feared medieval fairy feared for abducting 508 00:55:55,660 --> 00:56:01,460 human babies and again the UFO abduction story is clear. I've just been given the 509 00:56:01,460 --> 00:56:08,460 five minute notice that's impossible I'm afraid. Maybe ten. Thank you, thank you. I 510 00:56:11,140 --> 00:56:15,060 hope you'll let me finish. I've got about ten minutes to go I'll try and rush it. We 511 00:56:15,340 --> 00:56:19,180 human beings we can't see anything without interpreting it. Interpretation is built into 512 00:56:19,180 --> 00:56:26,180 perception from the get go. What I would suggest is that what we are looking at here is the 513 00:56:26,180 --> 00:56:33,180 same phenomenon that humans have been experiencing for at least 35,000 years viewed through different 514 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:39,800 cultural spectacles. And here are some of the common forms that aliens and spirits and 515 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:46,800 fairies appear. Here are those images from the painted caves. Not only therianthropes 516 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:52,200 in the painted caves we find these anthropomorphic figures. Look at these curious creatures from 517 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:59,200 Los Casares cave in Spain or this piece from Angoulême in France or this piece from Peshmerle. 518 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,280 The figure here with the high domed forehead and the narrow pointed chin the large dark 519 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:13,320 eyes something up in the sky above that figure there 24,000 years old from Peshmerle. We've 520 00:57:13,340 --> 00:57:19,560 done a redrawing of the figure and you can see that the profile is very distinctive as 521 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:25,060 in this piece of art from the Drakensberg again that high domed forehead narrow pointed 522 00:57:25,060 --> 00:57:32,060 chin virtually indistinguishable from the entities that we call greys today. There are also things 523 00:57:33,060 --> 00:57:37,100 that look like flying saucers on the walls of painted caves. Archaeologists don't know 524 00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:42,460 what they are but they look an awful lot like Pablo Amaringo's depictions of those spirit 525 00:57:42,460 --> 00:57:49,460 vehicles. One of these drawings was done in 1990 by one of John Max patients. The other 526 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,960 two were done more than 20,000 years ago in the painted caves of southern Europe. This 527 00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:00,900 is the modern drawing. These are the ancient ones. The abductee said that every time the 528 00:58:00,980 --> 00:58:07,980 aliens came to abduct her they projected this image into her visual field. I don't take 529 00:58:08,140 --> 00:58:13,700 a totally nuts and bolts explanation of this problem. I think it's much more complicated 530 00:58:13,700 --> 00:58:20,220 than physical aliens coming here across interstellar space in high tech vehicles. I think it's 531 00:58:20,220 --> 00:58:24,820 much more mysterious than that. Of course the universe is full of life but the universe 532 00:58:24,820 --> 00:58:30,140 also consists of multiple dimensions and I think it's more likely that we're dealing 533 00:58:30,340 --> 00:58:36,380 with an interdimensional than with an intergalactic phenomenon here. There's good evidence that 534 00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:41,340 such experiences do become accessible as much through alterations of our state of consciousness 535 00:58:41,340 --> 00:58:46,180 as through any physical contacts in the material realm. Very important work. I don't have 536 00:58:46,180 --> 00:58:51,580 time to go into detail by Rick Strassman, professor of psychiatry at the University 537 00:58:51,580 --> 00:58:58,580 of New Mexico, worked with DMT and human volunteers during the 1990s. DMT is widely found in nature 538 00:59:01,140 --> 00:59:05,380 Everyone in this room has DMT in your bodies. I'm sorry to tell you you're all illegal. 539 00:59:05,380 --> 00:59:10,700 Go to jail now. We all have it in blood, in urine, in cerebrospinal fluid. You can assay 540 00:59:10,700 --> 00:59:16,900 it in sub psychedelic quantities. We don't know why it's there but we do know where it's 541 00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:23,900 produced. It's produced in the pineal gland which is rightly regarded as the third eye. 542 00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:30,460 In evolutionary older animals the pineal gland actually still possesses a lens, a cornea and 543 00:59:30,460 --> 00:59:35,540 a retina. In human beings it does not. It's sunk deeper into the brain but my suggestion 544 00:59:35,540 --> 00:59:42,540 is it is still a sense organ and it is producing DMT to allow us to see a wider and expanded 545 00:59:43,060 --> 00:59:48,420 reality that is not normally accessible to our senses. A sixth sense if you like. I'm 546 00:59:48,420 --> 00:59:53,660 sorry I don't have time to really do this but the experiences of Rick Strassman's volunteers 547 00:59:53,660 --> 01:00:00:00,660 were astonishingly similar to the experiences of UFO abductees. They reported piercings, 548 01:00:00,660 --> 01:00:06,820 surgery, space stations. Just please take my word for it that Rick Strassman's one 549 01:00:06,820 --> 01:00:10,320 of the things that caused Rick Strassman to give up his work actually. He knew these 550 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,500 guys weren't being abducted but they were having experiences exactly like UFO abductions 551 01:00:15,500 --> 01:00:21,300 as though their consciousness was being abducted and he was baffled and nonplussed by this. 552 01:00:21,300 --> 01:00:25,700 When he looks at his bedside notes he finds that at least half his volunteers are having 553 01:00:25,700 --> 01:00:31,340 experiences exactly like UFO abduction experiences. The question is were they getting this from 554 01:00:31,340 --> 01:00:36,660 the wider culture? They'd heard of UFO abductions, their brains on drugs, invented that or is 555 01:00:36,660 --> 01:00:41,780 something else going on? This work in the 1950s before a single UFO abduction had been 556 01:00:41,780 --> 01:00:47,700 reported proves that something else has been going on because these researchers found that 557 01:00:47,900 --> 01:00:54,580 their volunteers on DMT were also giving reports exactly like UFO abduction experiences today. 558 01:00:54,580 --> 01:00:59,100 So it looks more like the culture is getting it from the visionary realm rather than the 559 01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:06,100 other way round. This really leads us to ask what exactly is going on here. By the way 560 01:01:10,620 --> 01:01:17,620 I need to emphasize that Rick Strassman does not believe that these reports are being 561 01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:24,700 abducted. These experiences are nonreal. He believes that these experiences are real 562 01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:29,500 and that what is happening with UFO abductees is that they are people who overproduced 563 01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:35,540 DMT in the pineal gland, enter a trance state, have these experiences and then come back 564 01:01:35,540 --> 01:01:42,540 and report them. This leads us to ask what reality is. I'm going to have to just dash 565 01:01:42,820 --> 01:01:47,100 through this. William Blake, if the doors of perception were cleansed everything would 566 01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:53,500 appear as it is, infinite. Aldous Huxley saw the brain as a reducing valve, largely 567 01:01:53,500 --> 01:02:00,020 designed to cut out most of reality so that we would be able to function in the physical 568 01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:07,020 world. Albert Hoffman, the inventor of LSD, came up with a very useful notion that the 569 01:02:07,180 --> 01:02:12,300 brain may not be a generator of consciousness. It may be a receiver of consciousness. In 570 01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:19,300 that case the altering the receiver wavelength of the brain would allow us to see more than 571 01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:24,500 we normally do. Rick Strassman uses the same analogy. He says that in everyday life we 572 01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:28,980 are tuned into channel normal, the physical world, but that there are all sorts of other 573 01:02:28,980 --> 01:02:33,580 channels broadcasting at us all the time and if we alter the receiver wavelength of the 574 01:02:33,580 --> 01:02:39,220 brain, which is what he believes DMT does, then we can see into those other realities. 575 01:02:39,220 --> 01:02:43,580 He says that these words are usually invisible to us in our instruments, not accessible using 576 01:02:43,580 --> 01:02:47,740 our normal state of consciousness. However, just as likely as the theory that these words 577 01:02:47,740 --> 01:02:53,300 exist only in our minds is that they are in reality outside us and free standing. If 578 01:02:53,300 --> 01:02:59,160 we simply change our brains receiving abilities we can comprehend and interact with them. 579 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:04,940 Quite often hallucinating subjects are wired up to MRI scanners. Certain areas of the brain 580 01:03:05,180 --> 01:03:10,900 light up. Mainstream scientists then say, oh, the experiences he's having, those are 581 01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:15,940 just a result of his brain activity. We can reduce the experience to the changed brain 582 01:03:15,940 --> 01:03:20,660 chemistry. There's nothing more to it than that. It's a ridiculous idea. If you want 583 01:03:20,660 --> 01:03:25,140 to look at it, here's an analogy. If you want to look at a very distant star, point your 584 01:03:25,140 --> 01:03:29,400 little home telescope at the sky. First of all you're going to have to focus the telescope. 585 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:34,340 When you focus it, physical changes will take place inside the barrel of the telescope in 586 01:03:34,340 --> 01:03:40,100 the relationship between the lenses. Eventually the star will come into view. You'd be completely 587 01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:45,500 wrong to say that the star is the physical changes inside the barrel of the telescope. 588 01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:50,260 They have simply allowed you to see the star, which is real. And that's the suggestion 589 01:03:50,260 --> 01:03:54,440 of what is going on with altered states of consciousness. So maybe we don't need the 590 01:03:54,440 --> 01:04:00,580 large Hadron Collider in Geneva, Switzerland to break open parallel universes. Maybe we've 591 01:04:00,580 --> 01:04:06,180 got the instrument inside our skulls. It's called our brains. Here's what I call six 592 01:04:06,180 --> 01:04:10,180 million years of boredom. I promise you we're getting very near the end now. The human 593 01:04:10,180 --> 01:04:14,980 family tree from the last common ancestor with the chimpanzee. If we have been in contact 594 01:04:14,980 --> 01:04:19,620 with higher realms, we should find some traces of it in the human story. And believe me, 595 01:04:19,620 --> 01:04:25,300 a lot of this story of our ancestors is incredibly boring. They don't invent stone tools until 596 01:04:25,300 --> 01:04:29,260 two and a half million years ago. That's what they come up with, the Aldowan stone 597 01:04:29,500 --> 01:04:32,940 tradition. Once they've invented them, they stick with them without any change for the 598 01:04:32,940 --> 01:04:37,380 next million years. They're incredibly rigid and dull and boring. When they do make a 599 01:04:37,380 --> 01:04:43,180 change, they stick with that for another million years. And then suddenly, round about 35,000 600 01:04:43,180 --> 01:04:47,020 years ago, it's as though a light is switched on in the human brain all around the world. 601 01:04:47,020 --> 01:04:54,020 And we start producing this amazing, amazing art. And overlooking all of this art are these 602 01:04:54,900 --> 01:05:00,820 entities, these therianthropic entities. So it may be that the deliberate purposeful 603 01:05:00,820 --> 01:05:05,620 induction of altered states of consciousness by prehistoric shamans was what gave us this 604 01:05:05,620 --> 01:05:11,260 great leap forward in the development of the human species, not the alert, problem-solving 605 01:05:11,260 --> 01:05:15,220 state of consciousness. There's even evidence to suggest that it was experiences in altered 606 01:05:15,220 --> 01:05:22,220 states of consciousness that gave us language. In the modern era, Francis Crick, the discoverer 607 01:05:22,460 --> 01:05:29,460 of the double helix, admitted privately before he died that he had been under the influence 608 01:05:29,460 --> 01:05:36,100 of LSD when he first saw the double helix shape. That his inspiration came not from 609 01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:40,840 the rational, alert, problem-solving state of consciousness, but from a deeply altered 610 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:46,380 state of consciousness. Likewise, these guys have gone on the record to say that they 611 01:05:46,380 --> 01:05:51,580 would never have invented the Apple computer if it hadn't been for LSD. So I think there's 612 01:05:51,580 --> 01:05:58,020 a lot of evidence to suggest that these experiences are not brain candy, that they are indeed 613 01:05:58,020 --> 01:06:03,980 utterly transformative if they're done right. And what's at stake in this is not a small 614 01:06:03,980 --> 01:06:08,980 thing because I believe a struggle is underway right now for the future direction of human 615 01:06:08,980 --> 01:06:15,980 consciousness. And it's a struggle on which everything hinges. Our society particularly 616 01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:21,300 values the alert, problem-solving state of consciousness that's useful for activities 617 01:06:21,300 --> 01:06:27,880 like this, science and war and Wall Street. And our society will allow us little holidays 618 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:34,880 from that by allowing us to get blind drunk on alcohol and of course romanticizing alcohol, 619 01:06:35,340 --> 01:06:40,460 one of the most boring drugs on the surface of the planet, and bombarding us with... 620 01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:48,100 Thank you. And bombarding us with the nightmare experience of reality TV, turning the brains 621 01:06:48,140 --> 01:06:55,140 of our children to mush 24 hours a day. You know all these drugs are illegal, but this 622 01:06:55,140 --> 01:07:00,180 stuff is legal. Can you believe it? If anything's going to be made illegal, I believe it should 623 01:07:00,180 --> 01:07:07,180 be what television is doing to human intelligence today. So it may be that the hubbub of our 624 01:07:07,700 --> 01:07:13,700 daily life is cutting us off from higher realms, or as the shamans in the Amazon told 625 01:07:13,700 --> 01:07:18,220 me when I asked them about the sickness of Western culture, I said, tell me what is it? 626 01:07:18,220 --> 01:07:23,220 What has gone wrong? They said it's very simple. You've severed your connection with spirit. 627 01:07:23,220 --> 01:07:27,660 If you don't reconnect with spirit, you're lost and you're going to bring us all down 628 01:07:27,660 --> 01:07:34,660 with you. It's urgent and desperate that you reconnect with spirit. I also believe, this 629 01:07:35,660 --> 01:07:39,700 is a deep political issue, I don't want to go into it at length, but I believe fundamentally 630 01:07:39,700 --> 01:07:46,060 that if I am not sovereign over my own consciousness, then I'm not sovereign over anything. It's 631 01:07:46,060 --> 01:07:52,380 pointless to talk about freedom, to go around the world imposing democracy on other cultures 632 01:07:52,380 --> 01:07:59,380 when we do not allow adults in our own society to make adult decisions about their own consciousness. 633 01:07:59,380 --> 01:08:06,380 Our consciousness, thank you, our consciousness is the most precious, the most sapient, the 634 01:08:07,860 --> 01:08:13,380 most intimate, the most sacred part of ourselves. The government has no right to hold the keys 635 01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:17,720 to our consciousness. We as adults are the only ones who have that right. If we get 636 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:22,500 in the face of others, cause trouble to them, the state has a role to play. But what I 637 01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:27,380 experience inside my own brain in the privacy of my own home or in a shamanic circle is 638 01:08:27,380 --> 01:08:33,420 nobody's business but mine. 639 01:08:33,420 --> 01:08:40,100 Ayahuasca has a very insistent message. It's one of those universals and it's experienced 640 01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:45,420 by almost everyone who drinks ayahuasca. It's about the sacred, magical, enchanted nature 641 01:08:45,420 --> 01:08:52,420 of all creation. Our planet is a sacred realm. The Amazon is perhaps the largest sacred 642 01:08:53,420 --> 01:08:59,420 realm on the planet and many report visions of the Amazon who work with ayahuasca. Look 643 01:08:59,420 --> 01:09:05,420 what's happening in the Amazon today. Look what we're doing to the lungs of our planet. 644 01:09:05,420 --> 01:09:11,420 Look what we're doing to this resource of 155,000 different species of plants and trees. 645 01:09:11,420 --> 01:09:16,420 Look what we're doing to it. Every one of those is a fire burning to clear down the 646 01:09:16,420 --> 01:09:21,420 Amazon as the road systems move through it. That incredible gift to us from the universe 647 01:09:22,220 --> 01:09:29,220 is being steadily, steadily destroyed. Burnt down. Why? To plant soya beans, to feed cattle, 648 01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:35,820 so that we can eat hamburgers. What an insane idea. Our society has truly lost contact with 649 01:09:35,820 --> 01:09:41,140 reality when we allow such things to continue. It should not happen. It need not happen. 650 01:09:41,140 --> 01:09:45,940 I did a back of an envelope calculation during the Iraq war. Six months expenditure on that 651 01:09:45,940 --> 01:09:50,620 bloody war would have solved the problem of the Amazon forever. Why are we prepared to 652 01:09:50,620 --> 01:09:57,620 spend money on destruction and not on preservation? It's insane. This is what happened in the 653 01:09:57,620 --> 01:10:04,180 Amazon in 2005. It actually ran dry. Look at that. My goodness, there has never been 654 01:10:04,180 --> 01:10:09,740 a time when we more desperately need to return to enchantment. We more desperately need to 655 01:10:09,740 --> 01:10:16,180 return to the magical universe, to the sense of the sacred gift of life, to break down 656 01:10:16,220 --> 01:10:21,540 the boundaries and to become one again with the universe that made us. Thank you, ladies 657 01:10:21,540 --> 01:10:22,060 and gentlemen.