1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Okay, so this talk is called Megaliths and Mysteries of Ancient South America and we're 2 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:27,400 going to be looking at the origins of the gods in Peru and Bolivia and the influence 3 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:33,160 over the Inca culture and how they created some of the most amazing megalithic structures 4 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:39,480 on the planet. My name's Hugh Newman, I'm an author, researcher and explorer and I've 5 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:46,920 been visiting Peru and Bolivia since 2007. I've visited the area 10 times over the last 6 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:53,200 decade or so and to me it's one of the most important megalithic places on the planet. 7 00:00:53,200 --> 00:01:00,280 So it's based in South America along the west coast and one of the most important areas we're 8 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:06,400 going to look at is the area around Cusco but then we're going to move to the area of Lake Titicaca. 9 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:12,720 On the bottom right there we have Manco Capac, he was the founder of the Inca Empire. However, 10 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:18,600 there are stories going much further back that talk about tall bearded people coming from the 11 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:25,880 area of Lake Titicaca and influencing the local cultures around Cusco and around the sacred valley 12 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:31,640 where Machu Picchu and Ollantaytambo are and creating the megalithic temples that we see 13 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:38,200 there today although they're really now credited as being built by the Inca. One of the most 14 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:45,640 interesting areas around Cusco is not only the hills where we have Sacsayhuaman but it's the 15 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:53,320 fact that actually there's a strange puma type being like an effigy within the landscape there 16 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:59,960 and you can see that in this image here and it's thought that this was part of the creation, part 17 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:05,720 of the building of Cusco was based around the sacred puma and we'll see why that's important 18 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:12,200 because even Lake Titicaca potentially they believed was representation of this great puma 19 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,440 and it's thought with the origin myths of the Inca are really quite interesting because they're 20 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,880 very similar to the origin stories of Viracocha which we'll look at a bit later and they talk 21 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:29,800 about the two children of the son Manco Capac and Mamma Oclehuaco who were both brother and sister 22 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:37,240 and husband and wife. They were sent by the son from the area of Lake Titicaca with a golden wedge 23 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:43,400 and they were destined to sink into the earth where they should found their civilization. 24 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:50,040 Where they placed it in the earth was in central Cusco at a place called the Coricancha. 25 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:55,720 Now the Coricancha itself is a very beautiful place it's been built up now it's like a Christian 26 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:03,880 church and temple almost like a cathedral of ancient Peru and it was supposed to have been 27 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,680 founded by the Inca but there's evidence as we'll see and as we've already discussed that it may 28 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:15,080 be much earlier so officially in the 1400s it was being built just a few hundred years ago 29 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,680 and it really marks the center of the ancient Inca world but also the ancient Andean world 30 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:27,480 going back before the Inca. The first Inca ruler Manco Capac ordered the building of the original 31 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:34,920 temple but it was the ninth Inca Pachacutec who enlarged improved and modernized it from about 32 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:42,120 1438 onwards and you can see here this is a model which is on display at the site itself in the 33 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,480 interior museum and you can see it's got a gold rim around the top of the walls and it's thought 34 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:54,280 the entire temple was covered in gold and silver. This is an artist's impression of what it may have 35 00:03:54,280 --> 00:04:02,520 looked like. Now this was completely engulfed in gold they were they saw gold as like we see a 36 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:08,040 normal kind of metal or normal ceramic there was so much of it available to them that they took it 37 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,240 for granted and they were surprised that when the Spanish came over that they were even interested 38 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,640 in it because it wasn't their most precious this precious metal or anything like this. 39 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,760 The interior contained temples and you can still see some of these temples now 40 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:28,120 dedicated to the sun moon rainbow stars thunder and lightning and many other things. 41 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:34,680 There was also a moon temple which was covered in silver and so we see that even now all of this 42 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:41,080 gold has gone all of the silver has gone it was taken by the Spanish invaders back in the 15 and 43 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:47,320 1600s. This is what we see today this is the center this is the dead center of the Coracanches a great 44 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:54,040 bowl with a hole carved in it made out of basalt or andesite and this now marks the center although 45 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,600 it wasn't originally here it was called the palace of the sun or the house of the sun 46 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:05,960 and the name we have now the coracancha translates as the golden palace and here we can see on the 47 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:11,880 bottom we start to see evidence of very high stone technology this is one of the most fascinating 48 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:19,240 things about Cuzco but also about the coracancha is that it has extremely sophisticated stone 49 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,200 technologies here some of the most sophisticated on the planet so even if it was built in the 1400s 50 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:29,640 which is unlikely it's probably much earlier it's still very advanced for its time i'm here with 51 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:35,800 David Hatcher Childress we did a tour there a few years ago but even the stone itself comes from 52 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:41,880 between 30 and 50 kilometers away it's not local stone it was specifically chosen to build this 53 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:50,760 particular site and it's also a very interesting location it's the center or the navel of what 54 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:58,440 they believed was the origin point of the country and so it's like a belly site a naval site 55 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:05,400 axis muni or omphale of the actual area this is the outer wall of the coracancha and there are 56 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:12,440 series of what are called kecks coming out from the center of the coracancha 41 straight lines 57 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:19,080 going in all different directions and these were marked through the landscape with huacas or small 58 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:25,400 piles of stones and offerings throughout the landscape going hundreds of miles in some cases 59 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:32,280 and they were supposed to be 328 huacas or survey points and they were thought to represent 60 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,560 slightly you know partly astronomical but also partly spiritual and partly surveying of the 61 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:46,760 landscape and they also mark springs and water sources of the region so even back then even if 62 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,320 it was the 1400s or it could have been thousands of years earlier which is more likely it does 63 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,800 suggest they had a very high understanding of many different disciplines which we take for granted 64 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:03,880 today and we have some of the walls of the palace which is built around the coracancha 65 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:10,040 we see these beautiful serpent carvings on and we find these all over ancient peru and in fact 66 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:15,480 all over the world here's just some of the walls and some of the serpents and you can see all the 67 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:23,000 kind of protrusions we find on some of these stones here this is a thing we find all over peru we 68 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,640 find these beautiful serpent carvings these are all 3d relief carvings as this is actually within 69 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,440 the palace itself in the museum there and we have the 12 sided stone and these are all puffy 70 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:39,880 polygonal stone it's very hard stone very difficult to carve and it's thought that the 71 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:46,520 ancients may have even softened the stone that is one theory and even around the town some of the 72 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,640 walls you find these different effigies of pumas or serpents and other such things 73 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:58,280 shaped and placed in the wall in a very playful megalithic manner which is absolutely fascinating 74 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,280 but if we head up to the hills of Cusco i'm just going to give you a brief introduction 75 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:08,600 to some of the major megalithic sites here before we head to Lake Titicaca we have Saxe-Wuman 76 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:15,640 which is a remarkable site and it has some of the most impressive stonework on the planet this is 77 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:22,760 a photo i took back in a couple of years ago in 2015 i believe and you can just see how beautifully 78 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:29,960 cut these are these are extremely big stones some of them are up to about 200 tons and this was 79 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:37,400 about twice or three times taller originally until it was kind of destroyed and partly damaged by the 80 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:44,360 incoming spanish in the 1600s or a little bit earlier but there were stories and legends that 81 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:51,400 go much further back which talk about the idea that they were actually built by giants they were 82 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:58,440 built by these gods in deep in prehistory and no one knows exactly when and who these people were 83 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:05,160 but when we get to the area of Lake Titicaca and the stories of Viracocha and the creation myths 84 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:11,480 we'll get some idea these just shows you the size of some of the stones here it is really quite 85 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:17,560 stunning when you actually look at this close up there's even ideas that there's actually a language 86 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:25,560 encoded into the walls of Saxe-Wuman they talk about there's a gentleman called Dr Cunningham 87 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:30,360 who's done some research into these walls and he believes they're astronomical and geometric 88 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:35,960 values within each of the sides of the stones and this creates almost like an ancient language 89 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:41,800 like a universal language beyond you know writings beyond hieroglyphs actually going back 90 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:47,800 to geometry and maths which can be understood if if they can understand it but any culture at any 91 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:53,960 time so this is an intriguing discovery more research is still being done on this but if this 92 00:09:53,960 --> 00:10:01,080 is the case the walls themselves might hold clues much like the great pyramid does it in egypt as to 93 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,800 the origins of these particular sites and also very high knowledge and high wisdom 94 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,800 here's one of the gateways of saxe-Wuman and you can see it's kind of trilithon style much 95 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:17,080 like stonehenge and on the right here we have one of the protrusions which these are no one 96 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,480 really knows what these are for it could be to tune the stones others believe they're to tie 97 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,520 ropes around to move the stones but it's highly unlikely because some of these are very low relief 98 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,600 and you wouldn't be able to get a rope around them then we have these machine tooled 99 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:37,080 steps up in the top part of saxe-Wuman which no one can explain how they did it they've almost 100 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,040 been polished but if you were doing this by hand this would take decades to do but they seem to 101 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:48,200 have a technique of softening and carving these stones to a very high degree of sophistication 102 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,200 this is me getting quite excited when visiting saxe-Wuman like i usually do but you can see the 103 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,480 interior of the corners here they even shape them in a certain way very puffy almost pillow 104 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:05,080 like all along here you can see this as well we have the way they sort of join the corners here 105 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:11,560 is a design spec we see in different parts of the world including egypt but further along the sacred 106 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:20,600 valley if we head through different part of peru we reach Machu Picchu now this is believed to be an 107 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:28,440 Inca site discovered by Hiram Bingham in the early 1900s but in fact again we have the polygonal 108 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:34,440 megalithic and cyclopean stonework with a very high degree of sophistication once again we even 109 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:41,480 have stories of people going into this area from the late 1800s discovering skeletons and even live 110 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:48,280 tribes of giants along the amazon this is called the hitch and post of the sun at Machu Picchu 111 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:54,280 it's believed to be an astronomical clock amongst other things and this is one of the most important 112 00:11:54,280 --> 00:12:00,440 aspects because it shows not only a very sophisticated technology but it could also hold clues as to how 113 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:07,080 they recorded the movements of the sun moon and the stars this is the outer wall of the temple of 114 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:13,640 the three windows and not many people go to this part but this is very interesting because we see 115 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,760 these kind of striations on some of the stones here this it's almost like the stones have been 116 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:25,240 softened with massive megalithic blocks making up this particular site so Machu Picchu is an 117 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:31,960 impressive site which was later incorporated and probably discovered by the Inca in the 13 1400s 118 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:38,120 or so then they built upon it with these smaller stones we see here and other areas but it was 119 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:45,000 really this original viracocha oriented and inspired building was probably much much earlier 120 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,120 potentially thousands of years old and I believe contemporary with other megalithic constructions 121 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:57,800 such as Stonehenge and the Giza pyramids around three or so thousand BC another site in the area 122 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:06,200 along the sacred valley is Oyen Teitambo this is supposedly built by Pachacuti and it was his 123 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:13,560 royal estate who conquered the region in the 1400s and it was a stronghold for Manco Inca 124 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:20,680 Yupanqui and he was a leader of the Inca resistance sometime after this but again even when the Inca 125 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:26,600 discovered it it's believed it was already partly destroyed and not completed it was a megalithic 126 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:32,920 temple construction on a mountain and amazingly the stones came from several miles away up the 127 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:38,040 top of another mountain and would have had to be moved across a valley a river swamps and then 128 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:43,640 back up the mountain and some of these stones again are at least 100 tons again we see the 129 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:50,520 beautiful precision stonework with these protrusions all over the stones we even have one of the 130 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:56,600 the opposing mountain has what is believed to be the face of viracocha with a beard carved into 131 00:13:56,680 --> 00:14:02,520 the rock face several hundred feet tall with temples and constructions all around the area 132 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:09,640 we also have very obscure and unusual stones that look like massive keyboard buttons again at 133 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:15,240 Oyen Teitambo and we have these as well and these are all on the top part of the main megalithic 134 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:22,120 temple where the great wall is and we're going to and you can just see some aerial shots here 135 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:28,920 of the site itself to get a sense of scale these are terraces which were used for agriculture 136 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:35,080 this is the main area where people visit with the great stones which have got beautiful carvings on 137 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:41,240 them these are some of the massive megalithic blocks that we find all over the site here 138 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:46,360 and it stretches for you know a good about a kilometer and you can see carvings within the 139 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:53,080 rocks here we can see the way all through here down this area down on the left are what are 140 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:59,880 called lazy stones this is where stones that were bought over from the quarry were somehow left 141 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:07,640 there they were carved they were created and here's one example here of me standing next to it 142 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,040 and you can see how the size of these now you imagine trying to move a block this big that's 143 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:18,360 probably 20 feet long it's probably 40 maybe 50 tons and they were carrying these somehow from 144 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:24,200 the quarry on top of a mountain across these rivers and up to Oyen Teitambo itself up another 145 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:30,120 mountain and it's believed there's stories there's legends that talk about the transportation of 146 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,920 these stones was done by magic and it was they were levitating the stones from one mountain top 147 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,800 to the other mountain top it's almost like they were using their telekinetic abilities a pretty 148 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,400 girl would walk by they would lose their concentration and these stones would fall on 149 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,200 the ground and it's like there's several of these there's probably 10 of these between the quarry 150 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:56,680 and the site and again some of the stonework here on the left we have as one in Egypt and 151 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,400 Oyen Teitambo and we'll look at more of these in one of the other lectures but we can see there's 152 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:07,480 vert you know virtually exactly the same scoop marks as though they softened the stone this is 153 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:16,280 as one quarry in Egypt you can see almost exactly the same style of stonework and quarrying 154 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:22,920 and it's thought that they were actually using these stones these dollar dollar right block 155 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:29,800 diorite blocks to actually carve them which is unbelievable when you look at some of the stonework 156 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:35,160 here at Machu Picchu for instance and you can see more evidence of these kind of striations all over 157 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:41,080 the stones you see them here here various parts of Machu Picchu you can see them very well on this 158 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:46,280 sort of tourist photo we took of our group way back in 2011 some of the striations we didn't 159 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,840 notice this until the the photo was produced but it's almost like they just scooped the stone they've 160 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,480 kind of created this and it's part of the design spec it's part of saying look this is how we did 161 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:01,400 it this is the technology we were using here you go this is the Oyen Teitambo and you can see it's 162 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:07,720 just like it's been scooped like an ice cream scoop moving across softened stone and we even 163 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:15,000 amazingly find this at Stonehenge very similar style of scooping the stone so whether they were 164 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:20,760 just master stone carvers and they could work with extremely hard granite and sarsen stone as here 165 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,880 in Stonehenge or whether they were able to manipulate the stone whether through sound 166 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:32,520 vibration or as some traditions say that you know they were using some kind of plant sap which 167 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:40,600 would soften and melt the stone in Peru but it's really the path of Viracocha which Cuzco is on 168 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:47,560 as in Oyen Teitambo and Machu Picchu and other places there's a story that the great god Viracocha 169 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:54,600 was said to have constructed all the sites using a race of giants that he created from the earth 170 00:17:54,600 --> 00:18:00,280 and from stone to build these sites along this particular alignment going all the way up to the 171 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:10,200 coast beginning at Tiwanaku and the area around Lake Titicaca and Viracocha himself kind of 172 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:16,600 translates as foam of the sea in some cases and the stories have been emerging from Lake Titicaca 173 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:24,280 onto the island of the sun in the middle of Lake Titicaca and then building his empire from there 174 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:35,240 and then he's an image of Viracocha or some people say Manco Capac and we can see this is the island 175 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,920 of the sun here these are some earth energy currents which seem to stretch all the way around 176 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:43,240 the world but this is interesting because this part of the island here where we find these 177 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:49,880 constructions on the north part of the island where Viracocha is said to have emerged from the lake 178 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:57,160 now if this is the case then it does suggest a very ancient origin because Lake Titicaca 179 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,480 and the stories there and some of the dating they've they've got back there go very very 180 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:12,280 far back thousands of years BC and he was also known as the Thanupa or the thunder god 181 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,760 and there's many different strange stories i've bought local books i've talked to local guides 182 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:24,760 and wisdom keepers in the area and his legend is so powerful that it's believed to have influenced 183 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:31,800 the Inca is also he's represented some sometimes represented sometimes as a serpent or even a 184 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:38,360 plume serpent like we find in central america with Quetzalcoatl and Cucuclan and even relationships 185 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:46,200 and similarities can be found to Osiris in Egypt and other areas around the world 186 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:52,680 he's often depicted like a Tuanaku here holding two staffs and he's crying because of the lost 187 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:58,600 land that he was supposed to have come from which some people say is Atlantis and we have other 188 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:05,080 depictions of him emerging from the lake and sometimes it's a raft of serpents that he is 189 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,440 supposed to have emerged from and so there's lots and lots of very interesting stories about him 190 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:16,680 the fact where he's carved onto the landscape into the mountains here is very interesting he 191 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:23,400 was seen as a teacher a healer a wizard a scientist magician and he looked like a christian saint in 192 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:30,520 some of the early paintings much like Jesus he was accompanied by what were called faithful soldiers 193 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:37,160 and shining ones and the various veracotias it was like a group of them in some cases some 194 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:42,440 stories they went off in different directions to share the message that he was giving to different 195 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:49,080 parts of the world and one of these included building megalithic temples along the path of 196 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:58,440 veracotia the specific alignment and by a race of earthen or stone giants now the lake was 197 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:04,280 considered the center of the cosmos and the place of creation we see the location of it here we have 198 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:10,360 the island of the sun we have the peru bolivia border here peru this side bolivia that side 199 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:15,880 many of the many of the sites around here are very interesting megalithic temples all the way 200 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,680 around here as well and this is what it looks like if you turn it the other way up it looks like a 201 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:26,280 stone puma and that's kind of what titicacum translates as stone puma and so the fact that 202 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:33,080 we're having the name is actually a representation of what it looks like is really quite interesting 203 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:39,880 but tiwanaku itself is very very powerful site this is an early photo taken in the very early 204 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:46,200 1900s of the calisthenic temple and the monolith the 99 of them that surrounded that particular 205 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:54,600 temple but all around the lake we find evidence of these different symbols and relationships 206 00:21:54,600 --> 00:22:01,160 to veracotia and other gods often depicted in this kind of position with his hands together 207 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,400 in an upright position where some kind of headdress or helmet or even a turban 208 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:10,440 we have serpent symbolism all around the lake we find it everywhere and we'll come on to some of 209 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,880 these sites in more detail and look at the importance and sophistication of them as we 210 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:22,280 go through this lecture but the veracotias were said to have even headed towards the coast 211 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:28,840 and in the 16th century written by a magistrate who was named louis de monzon he was the first 212 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:34,760 person to announce the nazca lions to the world people don't not many people know this and he 213 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:40,440 recalled through the local oral tradition that they were linked to the people who called themselves 214 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:47,640 the veracotias coming from the area of lake titicaca and you can see some of the images 215 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:53,080 of the nazca lions here and these go on for many miles there's hundreds of effigies there's 216 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:59,000 straight lines marked again by these keks or these huacas so they were placing sacred 217 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:07,400 sacred stones in piles along these particular alignments but veracotia as we mentioned briefly 218 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:16,680 earlier created a race of giants now these are the stone giants that we find in america there's 219 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,320 there's depictions of them there's descriptions of them we feature them quite in detail in our 220 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:30,920 book giants on record this is david kusik's sketches of from 1828 and he talked about these 221 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,040 muwuk indians etc talk you know and they were the stone giants we have exactly the same story 222 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:42,760 around lake titicaca and the creation of the megalithic sites but he had to also destroy 223 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,800 them veracotia because these giants got out of hand they became cannibalistic they would attack 224 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:54,280 people they wouldn't obey his commands and continue the work he wanted to be done he had 225 00:23:54,280 --> 00:24:01,960 to destroy them with a flood this is a direct replica it's almost exactly the same as the story 226 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:07,400 of the nephelin giants that were created in the biblical tradition going back many thousands of 227 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:12,840 years and this is really intriguing in itself because we're finding parallel myths and legends 228 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:20,440 relating to giants in different ages of mankind we find similar things in central america with 229 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:27,560 the store with the aztec mayan and olmec origin stories as well and it throughout south america 230 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:35,400 we have found many examples of actual giant bones being discovered and this is an early depiction 231 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:41,800 of veracotia wearing his robes he was very similar to kexel aquatl in that he was long 232 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,920 haired bearded tall sometimes fair skinned which is controversial but this is that these 233 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,560 are the stories that they talk about and you can see even facial hair is on this particular 234 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,000 depiction of him here 235 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:03,960 and he was also there was an eighth inker of um who was basically called himself veracotia 236 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:10,840 and again the strange thing is the very early inker the royal inker not only was said to be 237 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:16,280 fair skinned and sometimes bearded but they spoke a completely different language to the native 238 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:21,400 local people and they looked very different they weren't origin they weren't the origin what didn't 239 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:27,240 seem to be in that part of south america and here's just this is very intriguing this is a 240 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:33,400 bust there was actually like a full body which the body is still on display actually in the museum 241 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:43,000 in kuzco but indigenous people ranked below spaniards according to the spaniards and so 242 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,800 there was a lot of hoo-ha and people believed that the spaniards tried to make the early gods 243 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,440 look fair skinned so it looked like them but actually that wasn't necessarily the case 244 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:59,640 and so there's pictorial evidence that suggests they were a kind of different type of human being 245 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:05,480 in that part of the world but isla del sol this is in the middle of lake titicaca a very important 246 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:13,000 place and the birthplace of veracotia who came from the waters there's a depiction of him here 247 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,400 this is the south part of the island where there's some inker ruins and you're looking 248 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:23,160 over to the island of the moon here and when we do our trips there we take you know take people 249 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,800 up to the north part and the southern part of the island but on the north part of the island there's 250 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:34,120 some very interesting ruins this is almost like a tabletop or dolmen construction with a large 251 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:40,840 stone underneath it now this is unusual and this has been noted that this type of rock comes from 252 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:46,600 the mainland it's not local to the island and just next to that is what is called the rock of the cat 253 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:52,280 or the rock of the puma on the north part of the island and the interesting geological features of 254 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:59,000 this is on either side of this we have strips of a stone called elemonite which is very very 255 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:04,360 electrically conductive and magnetic there's also magnetic red sandstone which is much less 256 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:10,760 magnetic underground water and telluric currents this is a very strong energetic point on the 257 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,160 island and this has been noted because there's been strange balls of light have been witnessed 258 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,360 here over many hundreds of years potentially thousands of years and the island up until the 259 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:27,080 inca times were still revered and females will come over there and do retreats on the island 260 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,120 going back many hundreds of years so it's a very sacred part of the island and it was because it's 261 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:38,200 the birthplace of viracocha it's also the birthplace of where it's thought manco capac and the 262 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,680 inca culture came from so the inca would revere it in a very similar way 263 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,400 again we see the shape of the island here and the different parts of it 264 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:58,040 and it's here where you know some very important megalithic sites emerged from around the lake 265 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,600 not just that part you know we have the southern part of the lake here there's some interesting 266 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:08,520 sites the santiago oje the serpent temple we have chirupa which is before to anaku with 267 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,320 conco wakani and to anaku itself obviously this is all the southern part of the lake 268 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:20,920 but chirupa is a very interesting site officially it dates to 1500 bc up to about 850 bc but it 269 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:28,040 could be much earlier strangely the name of the site actually means lucky break or fluke you know 270 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,400 so it's got this lucky kind of feeling strangeness about it and it was built within this certain 271 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,840 kind of structure had a sunken temple in the middle with statues and stones around the edge 272 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:44,600 and stones around the edge you can see that here visited here in late 2017 it's been slightly 273 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:50,600 reconstructed but it's a remarkable site and you can see the strange kind of scoop marks in this 274 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:58,680 particular stone here but it had exposed walls in 1955 it was built up on a very large earthen mound 275 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:09,480 it was excavated by michael coe in 1955 and they know that quinoa the grain or the pulse was 276 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:16,520 actually grown here around 1200 bc so it's one of the earliest places in this part of the world 277 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:22,920 where they were growing crops and they worked with melted copper and bronze and different tins and 278 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,720 metals much like at to anaku and you can see this is when they're kind of reconstructing 279 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:34,680 and excavating the site elongated skulls have also been found at this site as well as very 280 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,920 interesting statues like this one which they call a tombstone 281 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,520 but there's another site very interesting site just on this peninsula here called oje or santiago 282 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,120 the oje which means the snake temple and you can see here when it was first discovered there was 283 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,880 a big ceremony with the local andean people and you can see this beautiful serpent you see 284 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,480 these beautiful carvings here some of this has now been covered up it's a huge square or rectangular 285 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:10,920 temple area is at least 2000 years old or it could be older there's myself and jj ainsworth there 286 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:16,600 we visited there in late 2017 and this is this is the ground level so they had to dig down to reveal 287 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,920 most of the site here but look at this beautiful carving here and this stunning 288 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:31,960 it's almost like a cobra type snake it's called the it's called the colossus of the great 289 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:40,760 serpent serpent katari tupac and so we have these very strong suggestions that this was you know 290 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:46,120 they were very much worshiping the serpent and now we see this all over the area around late 291 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,520 and it spread out into the inca empire and potentially all over the world but the discovery 292 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,360 here was quite remarkable no one visits this site it's not on any tourist trail or anything 293 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,640 like that we have to make special arrangements to visit here but you can see it's something 294 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,480 about this place and the reason it's got this coloring some of it was exposed some of it 295 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,960 was burnt by local christians to try and destroy it but they didn't manage it but it's going to 296 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:18,360 become a major site at some point because of its location and importance right next to the lake 297 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:24,600 and there's even ruins under the lake itself nearby just off the coast here there's myself 298 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:32,280 and jim viera at tiwanaku we went there together in 2016 it's a very stark landscape tiwanaku 299 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:38,920 although is one of the most important sites on the planet i would say again we have the story here 300 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:47,480 of the creation of the sites being built by giants and this is the main akapana pyramid 301 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:53,160 this is a neat reconstruction that had the andean cross or the chicana pool of water on the top 302 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,840 we have the sunken temple here we have the calisso sire temple which had 99 massive 303 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,760 megaliths beautifully carved around the edge 99 is the same number of stones we find avyry in 304 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:11,480 england and we have the the gateway of the sun we have some of the viracocha statues here 305 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,760 pumapunkas over in this direction and multiple other temples have been found around here now 306 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,680 they think there may have been another pyramid over in this direction it's also flanked by two 307 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:29,160 great fault lines going on either side of the valley and even over the road probably about 308 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:34,040 a mile or so away there's thought to be another pyramid so this area although it's stark it's 309 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,400 very difficult to grow food it was originally next to the lake you know two or three thousand 310 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:47,240 years ago late titicaca but but it's you know now become pretty derelict they're still excavating 311 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:53,720 here we have the local amara people excavating it and more is being discovered but when we see 312 00:32:53,720 --> 00:33:01,240 these beautiful old kind of pictures we see stunning you know just beautifully cut pieces 313 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,560 of rock most of this has now been bricked up in between so you can't really see these in detail 314 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:12,040 but this is the gateway of the sun this is one piece of andesite and the site is a very hard 315 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:18,840 type of basalt and this is found from at least this is from the caro capia quarry which is the 316 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:25,400 other side of the lake in just over the peruvian side and this is from a mountain so they would 317 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:32,120 bring it across the lake over about 50 or 60 miles just to bring it to the site but here this 318 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:38,200 is the work done by various researchers who've realized that this could represent we have 319 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:44,680 viracocha here potentially with the sun rays around his head holding these staffs but also 320 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:50,840 this could be a sophisticated calendar system based upon the movement of the sun and the moon 321 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:57,240 and you can see that here the way if you're looking across to the one side of the eastern 322 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:05,240 side of the temple we have these stones mark the movement of the sun throughout the year 323 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,920 and this is the work of jim allen and you can see here as well it's a remarkable site 324 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,680 and a mark of remarkable discoveries and here we have it basically this encodes what we're seeing 325 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,280 here and you can see the movement as we go through here so each one of these represents a different 326 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,560 movement of the sun here through the different times of the year and this would be the equinox 327 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:33,560 in the center and we have the extremes of the solstices on either side and so if this is a case 328 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:39,720 this is very intriguing because this suggests as discovered by arthur poznanski that indeed this 329 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:46,840 site could be up to 17 000 years old based upon the archaeoastronomy of the temple this is just 330 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,640 one of the largest the benet monolith one of the great statues that was being moved it was moved 331 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:57,240 to the center of lapaz but it got moved back to the site this is when it was on display in lapaz 332 00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:03,080 you can see the sheer magnitude of that 1938 but it's now back at the site thank god and this is 333 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:09,480 stunning stunning piece of work just in itself and it's a very interesting piece of work 334 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,680 then we have pumapunku which is one of the most important parts of the site it's actually part of 335 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:20,760 tiwanaku and we have an aerial shot of it here and you can see the size of this people didn't 336 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,080 realize it's only been excavated recently some of this this is the main area here with all the 337 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,960 megaliths but this area here where the steps are would actually go directly onto the lake titicaca 338 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:36,280 this is like a port site and it goes all the way around here similar shape to tiwanaku this is what 339 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,680 it would have looked like this is kind of a reconstruction but some of the most sophisticated 340 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:46,440 stonework we've ever seen another reconstruction of how it may have looked and this was a very 341 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:52,280 sophisticated almost greek style temple and yet potentially it could be many thousands of years 342 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,160 old although officially it's only a few hundred years aed that was supposed to have been built 343 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,880 you can see some of the stones here these are the famous h blocks but these are precision carved 344 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,400 extremely hard stone there's drill holes in these there's remarkable sophistication when you're 345 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:16,120 looking at the the quality of the stonework here this is just me one of my videos you can you can 346 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:23,160 watch this on youtube but basically here i'm describing this particular channel which is 347 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:29,160 a water channel and these are along here we have these keystone cuts where bronze or tin and copper 348 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,560 clamps would have been put between the stones and it's thought they were to hold the stones together 349 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,440 but now it's actually thought these were in fact to channel the energy through and through the 350 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,080 work of john berk and kaj alberg it's now been realized these are some of the actual clamps in 351 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:49,480 the museum here and it's now been realized that this was an energetic temple they were flooding 352 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,040 water from the pool on the top from the chinkana shaped pool spreading it through and this would 353 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,080 create an electric charge then you have the force of the water coming through and then you have the 354 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,120 fault lines acting you have to lower it currents earth energies and all these other things happening 355 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:10,520 at the site at the same time there was some kind of processing plant some energetic temple system 356 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,760 which i'll go into more detail in in some of the videos i've created on the megalithomania 357 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:23,000 youtube channel this just shows you another view of the site this is the main part of the site as 358 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:29,160 you come in the entrance here you can see some of these blocks now some of these are red sandstone 359 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:34,840 these came from about 10 miles away but again the most of the gray andesite came from kerocapia again 360 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:40,280 over 50 miles away on the other side of the lake some of these were about 200 tons these blocks 361 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:46,200 they're very heavy very very some of them sinking right into the ground and it really does look like 362 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:51,480 you can see this yourself it looks like a cataclysm has hit the site so there's a big question mark 363 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,840 about this about who really built these sites and the thing is you keep finding these at the site 364 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:02,120 this was actually found right near pumapunku is on display in a local restaurant this one was as 365 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,520 well and you can see these are very elongated skulls which were thought to be inca actually 366 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:12,600 these are before the inca this one actually got stolen and it's disappeared it's another one found 367 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:20,280 at tuanaku some very beautiful very strange statues have been found at pumapunku and tuanaku 368 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:26,680 as well we have the great we have the great pumas that are on display around the town 369 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:34,600 this is actually from a site just south of tuanaku and pumapunku and this is the fuente 370 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:42,680 magnabal which is something we'll look at in a moment but it's known that the acapana pyramid 371 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,960 there's a huge magnetic field right within the center of this particular pyramid here this has 372 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,160 been tested again by john burke and these spirals that are found on the stones may actually represent 373 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:58,360 this but they may also represent other things we have the lightning here and the thunder and it's 374 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,720 known that thanupa or viracocha different names given to him was a thunder god who could control 375 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:08,840 the lightning and thunder now this is a tradition we find in britain and other parts of the world 376 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:15,160 the whole soars of thunder tradition often related to giants there's some other beautiful strange 377 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,040 carvings found all over tuanaku this would have been hidden it's been turned over so this could 378 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:25,160 have been like the doodles or the signatures of the actual builders strangely a stone sphere was 379 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:33,560 found i spotted this in 2014 at the museum in lapaz and this is almost identical to the stone 380 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:41,000 spheres we find in northern scotland and so it just gets stranger the more you look into these 381 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:48,600 particular sites again we have some very interesting faces carved on the stone this was on 382 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,160 display at the museum it's now been removed disappeared again but the features of these 383 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,840 don't look south american this is very strange very strange headdresses which we find on many 384 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:05,560 of the statues there and these suggest there are ideas that these represent very sumerian 385 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:13,000 or babylonian style that we find in the middle east and so there's several other sites around 386 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:19,480 lake titicaca which are of interest this just shows you some of them which you can visit 387 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:26,600 all around this area but there's one particularly which people are fascinated by and that's a 388 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,880 marumuru which is this one here is my colleague friend andrew collins trying to get inside it 389 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,080 there and this is carved out of solid rock sandstone no one knows who built this there's 390 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:43,400 different names given to it some people translate it as gateway of the gods their stories of people 391 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:48,440 disappearing they're actually gone into the stone at certain times of year and but the shape of it 392 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:54,600 is very intriguing because it's almost identical to the tea pillars we find in kebekli tepe in 393 00:40:54,600 --> 00:41:03,160 southeast turkey also around lake titicaca very interesting discovery was made which may link this 394 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,840 to other parts of the world the fuente magnabal which is now on display in the gold museum in 395 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:15,160 lapaz it's uh supposedly made of quartzite or sandstone according to some theories it weighs 396 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:22,920 about 50 kilos it's about 64 centimeters wide um about 20 centimeters high it was found in the 397 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:28,600 village of chua about just next to the lake titicaca about a few miles away from tiwanaku 398 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:36,040 it was found in 1953 and so it kind of removes the idea that it was faked for to make money 399 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:43,960 from or anything like this because this was used strangely for pigs to eat their food from on a 400 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:50,680 farm during the 1940s and 50s and yet so why would you fake something like this try and make this 401 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,760 connection with sumeria if it was just used to feed pigs from surely you wouldn't go to that 402 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,400 much trouble but what they've done they found two different types of sumerian script in it 403 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:06,920 and this has been analyzed in the 1960s and up to more recently um and basically there's some very 404 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:13,240 interesting uh translations which they think is elemite or proto elemite which is a type of 405 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:19,160 sumerian from mesopotamia um there's dr kleide winters he's been looking into it in various 406 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,680 other academics and the translations come out to be quite interesting not only have you got a 407 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,680 serpent going around the edge of the bowl you've got a mara script in there as well which is the 408 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:34,840 local andean tradition and that is it's almost like the rosetta stone of south america and so 409 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,800 there's so people are questioned well what's it all about then and this is actually the translation 410 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:47,640 and what it is it's you know looking at i'll let you read it for yourself but it kind of talks 411 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:54,440 about the goddess nia uh talking about fertility and to offer thanks and libations to the bountiful 412 00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:00,760 fauna and flora in the area that made it possible possible for these sumerian explorers to support 413 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:06,520 themselves in bolivia and we believe it may have been because there were trade routes being opened 414 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,320 up between these parts of the world there may have been there much earlier uh probably for the metal 415 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:17,400 and tin that was produced here because some of the metals found in the area around late titicaca 416 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,800 that produced at tiwanaku and pumapunku have been found in other parts of the world 417 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,600 and on the other side of the bowl there's more there's more of these uh talking about libations 418 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:35,640 and very like incantations almost like prayers or you know uh different kind of stories created 419 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:42,600 to make thanks to the gods and goddesses of the area we have other carvings around the side of 420 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:49,880 the bowl here uh faces carved on them which are very much like the faces we find at tiwanaku 421 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:57,960 and there's connections that have been made between greek and egyptian dieties with nia and 422 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:04,280 neith and other such things suggesting uh there may have been a global diffusionism going back 423 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:12,520 around this era which is probably probably around 2000 maybe 3000 bc the interesting thing is the 424 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:20,360 type of script that was found on the bowl does date back to around 2500 bc and this to me that's 425 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,240 quite interesting because that's the date i feel these sites were probably built around they found 426 00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:30,680 evidence of neolithic bronze age activity at the sites although most of it they believe is newer 427 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:36,760 than that it's much more recent but it's known that the sumerians use seaworthy ships that could 428 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:43,480 sail across the ocean and there's even jim allen who's done some brilliant books about this area 429 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:49,640 of bolivia and south america believes that indeed this was the case that there was 430 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,840 connections between these great cultures this is the pokoitia monolith this was found 431 00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:00,600 10 or 12 miles south of tiwanaku and some of the larger statues we find outside the church at 432 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:06,040 tiwanaku town are from this site and again we have these very strange script carved on the back of 433 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:12,440 this he's wearing kind of cool pants headdresses showing his ribs for some reason it could be like 434 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,760 a suggestion they were sort of difficulties growing the food or so forth but again this is 435 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:25,160 on display in the gold museum in lapas bolivia these are some of the other statues that were 436 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,080 found at pokoitia these are these are on display well not on display they're actually in a private 437 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:35,320 room at tiwanaku and you can see this kneeling statue this is a called the quizo position which 438 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:40,760 is found all over the world mostly with tiki statues in the south pacific but here you see 439 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:46,840 like kind of plats sort of sumerian type headdresses even gogolais which we're going to 440 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:53,320 talk about in another lecture this is the one from tiwanaku here these are from the south pacific 441 00:45:53,320 --> 00:46:00,360 on the left here this is actually from east ireland again you a very similar style so we're 442 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:05,960 seeing connections here all over the world in some very very interesting places 443 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:13,400 there are other sites in this area one of the most notable is pucara these are some of the 444 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:19,320 the carvings from pucara this is just the northern part of the lake around lake titicaca 445 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:27,640 and you can see here these look almost identical these gogolais these headdresses different 446 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:34,120 features kneeling position again strange serpents feathered serpents again you see the 447 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,800 size of this here this is the site not many people know about but to me this is one of the most 448 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,680 important sites it's even suggested it was built before tiwanaku and the pucara people may have 449 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,960 influenced the tiwanaku culture again this is actually on display in lima in the museum 450 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:54,120 in lapest on the peruvian side you can see these crisscross and lizards and 451 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:59,640 patrusians here like we find in the later inca culture remarkably similar to gobekli tepe as 452 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:06,600 well you can't deny the similarities are quite remarkable and and i think there may be connections 453 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,240 that we're going to discover in the near future this is actually from pucara again almost 454 00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:18,120 identical to gobekli tepe we find other similarities at places like sulastani and kutimbo 455 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:29,080 and again these are from gobekli tepe here the 3d relief carvings again this is from gobekli tepe 456 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,960 just shows you some of the sophistication here and here as well and then you would think this 457 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:40,360 was from gobekli tepe as well and so on but they're not this is actually from pucara on the north 458 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:49,480 part of lake titicaca but when i was there in late 2017 i made some discoveries surprisingly 459 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:55,080 i made a video about this and wrote an article for ancient origins which you can read while i 460 00:47:55,080 --> 00:48:01,160 was there i've been very interested in these statues of viracocha these gogolais also these 461 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:06,840 features these belts this is actually made of diorite which is extremely hard black stone 462 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,320 and i've been very interested in these statues these are some of the classic statues 463 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,240 at tuanaku puma pukka this is actually on this supposedly in the berlin museum we're going to 464 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:24,120 go and investigate this soon of a bird god which potentially could be a representation of thoth 465 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:31,640 from ancient egypt this is the benet monolith this is some of the other ones the more tiki 466 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:37,880 type statues in the sunken plaza but the cantatalita temple which is over to one 467 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:46,520 one edge of tuanaku we have an old photo of it here but just past that on the very eastern edge 468 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:53,000 i found this lost viracocha statue and this is the stump he would have been standing upright 469 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:58,120 on top of this and i couldn't believe it so i actually walked around there went over the 470 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:03,480 fence found it completely by accident and this has obviously been cleared all the mud and grass 471 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,720 has been cut away and things like this and so probably on the other side of this there are 472 00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:12,360 carvings because it's been placed in the ground it's probably preserved the carvings and it's 473 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,960 probably been there lying there for thousands of years if you turn that over a guarantee 474 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:22,680 there's going to be carvings but so this is one of the monoliths one of the statues that 475 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:31,160 hasn't been recorded ever by any research or any or anyone really archaeologist over the last 476 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,200 hundred years also when i was there i managed to sneak into some of the hidden rooms at 477 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:42,680 tuanaku at the museum on site there and discovered about 40 or 50 statues and carvings that i've 478 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,320 never seen before and these had never been published so this is all in the article on 479 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:56,680 the youtube channel one of the most intriguing pieces was this this really blew my mind because 480 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:04,360 it's got these beautiful hexagonal shapes carved on it and they're like 3d tubes coming out across 481 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:11,000 the stone so again this shows very high levels of sophistication what these represent is unclear 482 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:16,760 but there's a few other pieces like this at pumapunku so this was probably found at pumapunku 483 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:22,760 and created there originally we have other obscure shapes and carvings that were found 484 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:29,400 within this hidden room but it really does suggest that there's a lot more to be discovered 485 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:34,360 they're still excavating pumapunku they're still excavating tuanaku they're making all these 486 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:41,080 they're making many more discoveries in the area and it really is ripe for investigation and i 487 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:49,320 really believe that there's a deep pre-history here in south america and when more discoveries 488 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:56,600 are being made under the lake titicaca when they dig deeper around the cataclysm here pumapunku 489 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:03,720 and tuanaku i'm sure more connections with other parts of the world will be found and so thank you 490 00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:12,360 for listening and i hope you enjoyed this aerial view and this overview of ancient peru and bolivia 491 00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:44,360 so