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So our next speaker has flown all the way from America to be with us today to share

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his new research, which isn't really that much about giants, it is a little bit, but

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this is the book Jim and I put out a year or two ago, Giants on Record, which you can grab outside,

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we've got some limited edition hardbacks, but before I introduce Jim, I just want to mention

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something that Jim and I are involved with in January, we're taking a group out to Mexico,

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because we're absolutely fascinated by the Olmec and the Maya sites, and we've got Brian Forrester,

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who's an expert on all this kind of stuff with us, and we're going to be investigating giant

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remains and legends and stories that we've uncovered out there, so if anyone would like to join us,

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please talk to us today, because booking closes in a week or so, on the 15th, so if you're interested,

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we'd love to have you there, we've got a brilliant itinerary, and we hope you can. So Jim Vieira

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has come from America, Jim is a stonemason, he's a giantologist, he's also now an atlantologist,

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studies the ancient esoteric teachings of many different people, including Edgar Cayce, which is

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really the focus of his talk today, he's been involved and created really search for the lost

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Giants TV show, a couple of other amazing shows about Roanoke, the lost colony, and there's another

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show actually in the pipeline, which is hoping to be out what next year, hopefully something like

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this, and so there's a lot going on, we're working on the book about the Giants of ancient Britain,

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so please give a warm welcome to Jim Vieira. That's better, yeah, so everybody can hear me,

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does that sound right? Good, thank you for the warm introduction, I think in you I found somebody

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as thorough and obsessive as myself, it's like the Seinfeld episode where Jerry and George are at

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the cafe and they say together we're like one healthy human, so if we could merge our qualities

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it would be great, but I really appreciate Hugh and Andrew putting this on, it's really a lot of

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work and these things don't happen of their own volition, so I'm grateful and grateful to have a

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full house of open-minded people, I feel like I could talk about things that some people would

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just write off and dismiss without really investigating them, so I will get into my

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PowerPoint here and start with our book that Hugh and I worked on, and we did a show search for the

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lost Giants, I helped produce and create it for the History Channel, and as Hugh said we did several

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others, there's a shot me and Hugh in episode three, my brother and I did two two-hour documentaries

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on the lost colony of Roanoke, at the end of the first we worked with a team of archaeologists,

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we found a Native American site that had never been found before, and we dug one test pit and

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found thousands of artifacts, and this site was football fields large into the water, into the

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Chowin River in North Carolina, so when you're filming in real time you're rolling the dice,

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you don't know what you're going to find, and we found this massive native site which maybe

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linked to the lost colony, and the last episode we just did at the end we found copper mines that

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we believe are missing for 500 years with massive walled construction like an ancient

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Native American city that is being looked at by an archaeological team right now, so the guards have

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been with us in our filming because it's really challenging, you have windows to do what you want

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to do when you're telling a story, and you want the audience to feel like you're doing the

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investigations they would want to see happen, so it's very fortuitous, so I'm a stone mission

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by trade, I studied economics at the University of Massachusetts, I like building stone towers

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all around my town, I built these which is kind of neat, we've done a lot of work for a local

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theater, double-edged theater, all kinds of towers, walls, fountains, creations,

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we work with Goshenstone and Ashfieldstone and shape everything, here's another example,

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we built this fountain, it's a lot of infrastructure, my brother took that stone and used a diamond saw to cut the bird bath which is really cool,

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and here's another one, clearly built by a race of giants,

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actually on our road where we live, Bug Hill Road, Nashville, Mass, we're rebuilding like two miles of stone walls,

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and in this section right here you can see it's kind of obliterated, brought in about 100 tons of stone,

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and we've been rebuilding it, we put two lentils in here and here so the water flows through,

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so that's what I do when I'm not doing stonework for professional jobs, I do stonework for fun,

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and I hang out Linus the cat, Linus is cool, he's got one blue eye and one yellow eye,

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and when he visits he gets them all wound up so he bites me, and it's a there's a lot of arguments

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that go on, but he's a very good research buddy, so my brother and I built this in our last life,

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so this is what I love to do, I'm fascinated by megalithic structures, so I've been around the world

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to ancient sites, and you know I see all these sites like the Grand Men hair right here, 70 feet tall,

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350 tons, at least 6,700 years old, and it's toppled over, and I wonder who built them and why,

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and we've been all around Brittany, Hugh and I, and our friend Howard Krohers worked with archaeologists

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and run three old records, and he claims that at one point there was 50,000 standing stones in

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Brittany alone, which is astounding, some of them 6,000, 7,000 years old at least, so it's a really

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compelling place, it's like a forest of stones at Karnak, it's a really everything's super sized,

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so it's really fascinating, so we've also been Pumapunku and other ancient sites, and as a

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stonemason what catches my eye is like these smooth planes, I work with a quarry, and my

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friend owns a huge diamond saws, and they cut you know this hard stone, and I look at these things,

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and then I look in the museum, and I see the tools of the time, and I'm like this really seems

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like you couldn't reproduce this, this is beyond my capability, so one of the episode ideas I have

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is to get some incredible master masons and sculptors, give them the tools of the time and

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the stones, and see if they can do these interior cuts, you know as a proof of whether this is some

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kind of technology that pre-existed, and when I see things as Brian Forrester, like this pillowing

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stonework in Cusco, it's astounding, it's not that you can't get a razor blade between it,

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you can't get a micron between these seams, and they're all flawless, it's I don't know

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astonishing is the word I would say, and I'm just coming in as an independent stonemason,

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I got no axe to grind or fairy to support, I'm just like what WTF basically,

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Soxie Wommons is another place, you go through every stone, and just to see this incredible

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artistry and skill, and here's a Cory Concha in Cusco, the temple, and this requires planning,

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when you do cuts like this, when you do this kind of work, it's like a schematic, it's like a machine,

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a CNC machine made these things, and I know you're a savvy and open-minded crowd, so you've seen

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things like this in the past, but for me, as a mason, my first time there, I was astonished at

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all these sites, even in Machu Picchu, you see the similar things, you see kind of run-of-the-mill

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construction that I could throw together, then earthquakes separated this, and what you see is

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the stones aren't just joined on the seam, the entire thing, it's like curved, and all these

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stones are interlocking in the most wonderful fashion, so the entire stone is joined together

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like that, it's not just like the seam, and it's loose behind it, so the thought and the planning

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and the attention to detail, once again, is astounding. Here's Machu Picchu, it's like,

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you know, I'm going to do this just because I can, you know, this is so hard to pull off,

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it really smacks of what Brian Forrester would say, a previous civilization, and actually I like to

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point out that I'm glad Alan went before me, because I'm going to talk about the Sumerians,

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and a perceptual shift may answer the questions he had about a lost civilization, and we'll see if

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everything lines up. My son did all these fancy things with the slide, he's my tech guy,

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so this is Brian Forrester sent me this, this is a slide from the 50s, and it shows earthquake

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damage, and this Inca wall is built in front of this polygonal tightly fit wall with these strange

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knobs you find all around the planet, and you know, it really shows that there were two different

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levels of construction that took place here, and then you see the fits after the fact, right, this

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kind of like lame stonework to fit in, you know, after an earthquake or something like that, so you

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see several levels of repair that aren't as competent as the original builders. This is one

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of my favorite sites, Olatitambo, and these seams, this is hard stone, and the quarry is way over

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another mountain past a river, and not only moving the stones, but the flawless position with which

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these are joined really begs the question, you know, were they built at the time? Archaeologists

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say they were built, and by the people that were attributed to their construction. Once again,

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these walls, they go in and interlock, like the planning, it just gives me a headache is all I

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got to say as a stonemason, so I can't even look at it too much, it's astounding, and this is my

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last example of stonework, you just see the flawless seams, and it's really something that,

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you know, begs the question, should we have archaeologists work with geologists,

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stonemason engineers to solve these problems? I say yes, I don't always get a warm reception,

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but I believe, yeah, why not? You know, a multi-discipline approach is what I look at, like

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when you go to the doctor and you get antibiotics and it saves your life, you're like, thank God,

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but if I'm going to take antibiotics for everything, it's just not the answer, right? So the

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doctor's not probably not going to say, you might want to meditate, you might want to exercise,

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you might want to eat differently, have a holistic approach to your health. Science does not have a

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holistic approach, it's like a limited data driven segment, and it's very useful, but it doesn't

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solve all the answers, and it doesn't look at the human history in a holographic way, a holistic

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way. That's my contention anyways, and this guy, Edgar Cayce, in his readings probably said about

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the same thing that I just said. So Edgar Cayce, he was the son of a minister born in Hopkinsville,

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Kentucky. So Cayce had this strange gift, he would go into a trance-like state and he would

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give health readings, and people, doctors would bring their patients who couldn't be helped, and

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he became very famous healing people, often with natural means, or mostly with natural means.

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So Cayce would go into this trance-like state, and his source would tell him he was basically

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tapping into the Akashic records, the universal timeless records, and he started to give these

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strange accounts of past lives in Atlantis, in ancient Egypt, and the people, his sons,

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and the people who worked with him were fascinating, they kept asking questions about

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Atlantis. So what I'm going to do is do a comparative analysis of the Cayce material

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with the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians, the Theosophists, Plato, religious documents,

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oral traditions around the world, and show that they're all saying the same bizarre and specific

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thing about the past, and this is what caught my attention. All these sources say that Atlantis

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existed in the middle of the Atlantic, that giants and little people were part of its population,

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that androgynous crater gods, or humans, that were basically sexless beings birthed humanity.

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I know that sounds like I'm on magic mushrooms, but bear with me. It's really a strange thing,

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but you'll see in the iconography, you will see this displayed across the world in myth, legend,

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and in every other approach, and it's just really fascinating, so bear with me, I will say.

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So Cayce talked about Atlantis at length, but he wasn't the only one. That's what happened to

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Atlantis, supposedly, and you know, people want to know your opinion. After 30 years of this,

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you know, basically, I'm sorry, did I miss one? No. My gut, as a detective, who doesn't really

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have a lot of skin in the game, believes that what I'm going to lay out, this alternative view of

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history, is accurate, or predominantly accurate, and in 50 or 100 years, I think the version that

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I tell you will be accepted more as reality than what we have presently, and I'm not some big hero,

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I'm just doing a comparative analysis of pre-existing evidence, I'm just piecing it together,

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so I'm not trying to make a grand theory, I'm just, you know, I want to display to people these

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interesting things that I found. So in one of Cayce's readings, this is what he says,

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please give a few details regarding the physiognomy, habits, customs, and costumes of the people

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of Atlantis during the first, during the period just before the first destruction.

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So this is what Cayce says, they took on many sizes as to stature, from that, as may be called,

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the midgets, to the giants, for there were giants in the earth in those days, men as tall as what

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would be termed today, 10 to 12 feet in stature, and well proportioned throughout. So we all know

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Plato, you know, what he had to say about Atlantis. The primary ancient source for the legend of

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Atlantis was Plato, and skeptics say Plato's the only one who talked about Atlantis, then everybody

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just picked up on it, but the honest truth is Herodotus, who was born before Atlantis, also,

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before Plato, also talked about Atlantis, this is what he said, Herodotus, the father of history,

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near the salt hill is a mountain named Atlas, after this mountain, these received their name,

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for they are called the Atlanteans, and he also refers to the sea beyond the pillars of Heracles

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as the sea of Atlantis, so he spoke specifically about Atlantis before Plato was born, so Diodorus,

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this is what he says, the Atlantides inhabited a rich, rich land, and the Atlanteans were

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the most important of all. The Atlantides inhabited a rich country bordering upon the ocean,

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and were esteemed to excel all their neighbors in civil reception, and entertainment of strangers,

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and they boast that the gods were born among them. This is the place all the Greeks and the Romans

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believed was the land of the Titans in Mount Olympus, they are referring to Atlantis.

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This is Aeolian, in a word, this island is so delightful that it appears to be the abode of

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the gods, rather than of human beings, that's Aeolian right there.

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So, Theopompus relates the particulars of an interview between Midas, King of Phrygia,

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and Selenius, this is very interesting, Selenius told Midas, King of Phrygia,

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Selenius told Midas, Europe, Asia, and Libya, our islands washed on all their shores by the

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ocean, and there is but one continent which is situated outside these limits,

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its expanse is immense, it produced very large animals, and people twice as tall as those common

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to our climate, and they live twice as long. That's another thing, that the first humans

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were spirit beings who were trapped in physical bodies, that's what all these sources are saying.

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Evolution is a reality, we know that, but the creation of homo sapiens seems to be a supernatural event,

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all these sources are saying, so I must concede that, there is a supernatural aspect to what I'm saying.

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So, science has a problem with it, but you know, just see what you think.

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And then the nature of animals, those living near the ocean tell the tale that the ancient

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Atlantean kings, tracing their lineage from Neptune, wore bands made from the sea rams upon their heads.

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So it's clear all these great chronicles are talking about Atlantis.

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Now we have Rudolf Steiner, whose spirit is probably with us right here, he says,

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everything that refers to giants and the legends is absolutely based on knowledge of the truth.

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We feel it to be absolutely correct from the spiritual scientific point of view that the giants are stupid,

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and the dwarfs are very clever. And Hugh, in his talk, there is this idea that

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there was this malevolent race of giants that was created that was particularly dull and malevolent and cannibalistic.

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And you find it Native American, you know, I sit in ceremonies with Native American spiritual leaders

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all the time and they tell me these same things, and they always talk about the little people too.

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It's really like incredible. And I have a doctor I see that escaped from Vietnam,

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he does Chinese herbal medicine, and his culture always talks about the Chinese herbal medicine.

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It's really incredible. So the Rosicrucian Fellowship, there are two prime facts that stand out.

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One is that there were giants in the earth in those days. The other, that the patriarchs lived for centuries,

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long-lived patriarchs, and this is the Rosicrucian Fellowship.

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This is the show that we're going to be doing, and it's going to be a full-on

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digest that was devoted to Atlantis. This is to show you that the Rosicrucians, the Freemasons,

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have this as part of their philosophy. In this issue, we explore the mysteries of the lost continent of Atlantis,

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one of the most powerful and enduring ideas of the western world and of Rosicrucian heritage.

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Rosicrucian science confirmed. An eight-foot skeleton there, it's in our book,

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this is one of the ones that was shipped to the Smithsonian, which has this nefarious,

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the Smithsonian is now some dark place like the Vatican, and I don't want to promulgate that.

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I will talk about my belief in academic conspiracies in a while.

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So this is from a Rosicrucian publication. We followed it up on the show, actually,

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and the cave that this was found in was flooded, but these enormous skulls were found

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almost ten feet tall. They don't have specific FEMA measurements, but it's a pretty wild story.

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So the Rosicrucians and the Freemasons are definitely involved in the belief that giants existed.

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Manly P. Hall, one of the greatest thinkers in Freemason history,

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Atlantis and the Gods of Antiquity is a full chapter in his book.

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Madame Blavatsky, the same thing. She talks about androgynous beings, giants, little people,

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Atlantis existing, the great flood. In the Bible, there's 26 mentions of giants, pretty specific.

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Here's one of them in Deuteronomy, a people great and tall, the sons of the Anakim,

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who you know and of whom you have heard it said, who could stand before the sons of Anak.

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so large and countenances so entirely different from other men that they were surprising to the sight

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and terrible to the hearing. The bones of these men are still shown to this very day,

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unlike the credible relations of other men. So Hugh and I in our investigations,

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we team with Ross Hamilton, Micah Ewers and other researchers, and we've essentially found over

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1,000 accounts in the United States of seven foot and taller skeletons,

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oftentimes by respected academics, heads of anthropology and archaeology departments in the US.

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And it's pretty straightforward. You have accounts in the New York Times, nine foot tall, enormous skull.

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And they describe the Native American context, the specific burials, like seated facing the east or like spokes of a whale.

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So these unique burial patterns wouldn't be understood by a hoaxer.

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These are clearly legitimate reports of a stationary object.

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Quite frankly, the skeleton doesn't get up and run around. When a femur is measured at 29 inches,

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that's an over eight foot skeleton. Over and over again, you have this by respected individuals.

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Nine foot tall, jawbone over the face, you know, these specific accounts you find embedded and lost,

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essentially, in town and county histories, you know, obscurely buried page five, six hundred.

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Describing the same strange anatomic anomalies in an era of inefficient communication as a detective.

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That just puts up a red flag. Like, what the hell is going on? This isn't a hoax.

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You know, these are anatomical measurements that should be straightforward.

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So at the Chickasawba Mound in Arkansas, you have this account from the Field Museum in Chicago.

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They have like the big, who's the Sue, the big T-Rex. They're a well-known institution.

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This is from one of their archaeologists down there. The skeletons are very large and tall.

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One femur bone was unearthed that was 29 inches in length. The skulls are extremely large.

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The jar was such size that it would slip over my own and have considerable space to spare.

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There's over a hundred of these accounts that we found. And some of them are the skeleton was wired together.

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The town was abuzz. The largest man in town took the jawbone, whiskers and all, put it over his face and had room for his hands.

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So you're dealing with an enormous skeleton. You're not dealing with, you know, pituitary gigantism.

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There's so many of these cases. You're dealing with just enormous skeletons over and over again.

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And it's stunning. You know, we, you know, we talk about in our book, you know, where are the skeletons and things like that.

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It's kind of frustrating, but I think you'll see that it's really compelling.

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W.J. Holland, very well-respected paleoanthropologist, 1897 at the...

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I'm sorry, I'm going rain, man. I want to get all these facts right.

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McKees Rocks Mound in Pittsburgh. He finds between an eight and nine foot skeleton.

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This is a scientific American right here. He works for the Carnegie. So that was on Earth there.

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In Miami's Berg in Ohio, right, we have this, this account from the head of the Smithsonian's Anthropology Department.

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19, I mean 1897, Thomas W. Wilson. This is what he says.

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First of all, it's eight foot one and a half inches. There's a drawing of it. Anthropologists from all over the world are there.

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They're stunned. They list them, the skeleton with the largest giants of all time.

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And Wilson says this, the authenticity of the skull is beyond doubt. Its antiquity is unquestionably great.

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To my own personal knowledge, several such cranium were discovered in the Hopewell group of mounds in Ohio.

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Pretty straightforward stuff, you know. Then Edgar Cayce, which is, I think, fascinating.

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This guy had an eighth grade education. All he did was read the Bible.

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He was deeply offended by some of his own readings because he was so, you know, hardcore Christian.

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But he had 68 readings on the mound builders. And the mound builders are a fascinating group of civilizations that started around 500 B.C., maybe a thousand B.C.

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The Adena Hopewell and Mississippian people inhabited the eastern half of the United States.

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And they built massive pyramids in geometric forms like Cahokia.

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The Mississippians built this in Collinsville, Ohio. I'm sorry, Collinsville, Illinois.

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Grave Creek in West Virginia, 68 feet high. These massive constructions.

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And oftentimes like this one buried, there was a male and a female, seven foot and eight foot tall listed in the archaeological record.

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These geometric forms that could predict eclipses like the circle and octagon.

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Very, very extraordinary mathematics and geometry.

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They understood the metonic cycle of the moon, the 18.61 cycle of the moon.

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Very high minded stuff going on in ancient America.

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So you have the that's what there's a golf course that is part of Newark now.

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But this is what it looks like from an aerial shot or what it would have fully have looked like.

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So these incredibly complex forms.

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And what Casey said about the mound builders is that they came up to avoid the death cults in Mesoamerica, all the human sacrifices.

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And they were benevolently oriented.

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And they created a lot of these geometric forms as a ceremonial site to remember Atlantis, which sounds bizarre.

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But then you go to Portsmouth, Ohio. This is gone, but it was surveyed.

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And there were many forms like this, like Circleville, Ohio.

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Check it out is just like Plato, central city of Atlantis.

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My buddy Greg Book, Greg Little in the book Mound Builders points this out.

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And archaeologists can never figure out why there's motes everywhere, you know, and ditches and things like that.

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Even on the side of the Atlantic, you have the similar forms.

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So in the Smithsonian's own ethnology reports, there are 17 accounts of seven foot and taller skeletons.

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One of my favorites here is from the 1873.

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This account, TM Perrin, Smithsonian archaeologist reports, the skulls are very large, but fall to pieces on being exposed to the air.

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One skull was found that measured 36 inches in circumference.

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That is absolutely enormous, well out of human range.

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And there are a lot of accounts that you and I just encounter just like this specific measurements just listed, you know, anonymously in some lost document.

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It's not jumping out. It's not headline grabbing.

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They're not mastodon mastodon bones or hoaxes.

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You know, there's some extent, but not these.

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So, you know, what is going on here?

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You know, and a lot of people think, you know, there's some vast conspiracy.

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And I work with professionals and I, you know, I'm friends with archaeologists, geologists.

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And, you know, we have discussions.

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They don't always agree with me, but we have civil discourse.

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That's not always the case.

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One of the things is, you know, I don't believe in academic conspiracies.

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You couldn't pull it off anyways.

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And it's not like, you know, whatever.

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It's not like Enron.

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It's just a bunch of men and women doing what they think is their job.

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And I don't want to disparage anyone.

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I just want to point to you're indoctrinated into a way of thinking and you stick with it.

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It is just the ego.

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And here's a perfect example.

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This is Robert Shock and John Anthony West.

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This is geology 101, the weathering at the Sphinx.

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This is clearly weathered by water.

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It's incontrovertible.

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But this idea comes up and you have Mark Lerner and Zawi Hawassi, Egyptologists.

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They attack Robert Shock and the whole idea.

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Geologists firmly agree.

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I'm pretty well versed in geology.

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That is weathering.

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There's no question about it.

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So that dates the Sphinx back, you know, seven, eight, 10,000 years.

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But just the thought like, you know, I can't accept this because it doesn't fit what I've been working on, sorry, for all these years.

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So you get an arrogant, dismissive, you know, person like Zawi Hawassi who doesn't say, that's interesting.

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You know, let's investigate more.

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He acts like a petulant child and he just, you know, insults everyone.

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And there was a couple days ago a new shaft of chamber was found in the Great Pyramid of Giza, right.

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And we don't know all about it, but the crew that did it, they kept Egyptologists out of it to remain impartial.

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So Zawi Hawassi is quoted and he insults them.

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He says there's nothing there.

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He's totally arrogant and dismissive.

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It's like, how about, that's interesting.

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Maybe there's another shaft in the Great Pyramid.

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Let's see what the science reveals.

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But it's that ego orientation that dismisses, just like Alan was saying, you know.

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I'm pointing to a lost civilization that would answer maybe Alan's questions.

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And, you know, I found it fascinating, right.

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He just laid out hard science and math, incontrovertible.

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But no way, you know, that means there's a lost civilization that existed with Solutrenes and Clovis people that was very advanced,

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that maybe lived in the middle of the Atlantic.

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And they passed that knowledge on after a great flood.

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No, I don't believe in the Bible.

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That's all crazy stuff.

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And I'm not religious, you know, I'm a recovering Catholic.

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But I think the Bible is an important document.

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I think it was altered and I think there's distortion in it, but it is another important document to look at.

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So I try to balance both worlds and not, you know, just dismiss anything.

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So anyways, to go on with giants, all the early explorers you can name, Magellan, Drake, John Smith, Lawson, Coronado,

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they all documented encounters with enormous native chiefs over seven feet tall, over eight foot tall, sometimes nine foot tall, like in Mexico.

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And they specifically talk about the measurements, which is really astounding because the mainstream argument is that the Spanish were five, two,

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and then it was like five, eight or five, ten.

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So they considered them giants, which just truly isn't the case.

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And in Patagonia, we have some pretty clear evidence of this right here.

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Drake Magellan, as she was saying, for hundreds of years, they encountered these enormous people.

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So Cook was six feet tall and these people were pushing seven feet that he met.

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It's really interesting here, though.

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Cook writes this. He claimed one of the owner tribe he met in 1897 were from six to seven and a half feet tall.

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They wore animal skins, had horse strength and bull strength and lived in simple way, brown huts made of tree branches.

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This really points to some anthropological curveball, the enormity of these people.

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This woman, six foot six, Cook took a picture of her.

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Looks like this isn't the only giant thing right here.

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But this guy is seven foot two, just enormous. Seven foot four, another guy.

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So he photographed these people and this tribe was decimated by the English, unfortunately, like so many other tragedies that buried our past.

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We burned the Library of Alexandria as a species.

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We basically just threw ourselves back to the Stone Age.

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Anthropology and archaeology were created in the late 1800s, frankly, and they started from scratch.

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They pushed away 10,000 years of oral traditions and the accounts of religious documents.

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So they started from Darwin. They started from scratch.

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So here's one cool report.

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So De Soto's secretary says this, the new lands they explored were ruled by the giant Native American chief Tuscaloosa.

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So he writes, seeing him, we pause, dumb with amazement for though but a youth, he towered on high.

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A great limb giant, heads of tallest men reached only to his breast.

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You don't want too many giants on the brain. You got to like switch gears.

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So this is cool.

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It's called the Codex Vatican and these Toltec people are killing this giant in the mountains of Mexico.

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So I'm going to shift gears to a Bible quote.

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And there was yet a battle of in Gath where was a man of great stature in on every hand, six fingers and on every foot, six toes,

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four and twenty in number, and he was also born to this giant.

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That's pretty specific. So what are they talking about in the Bible?

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You know, six fingers and six toes. What does it mean?

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Thomas Henry Buckle in 1872 writes this commentators have collected various instances of men who like this giant have six fingers on their hands and six toes on their feet.

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This is what Edgar Cayce said in a reading.

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He describes a Muzuin who traveled to the Gobi Desert where he says is a lost city of gold from the lost Pacific continent of Lemuria.

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In nine twenty six B.C. as being six foot tall, blue eyed, hair dark gold, hand six fingered.

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Now that seems strange and you know, like how do you verify that?

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But there are other accounts. Pliny the Elder said the encounter between the Romans and the Seres, which they call the Chinese and Tapper Bane.

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They exceeded the ordinary human height, had flaxen hair and blue eyes and made an uncouth sort of noise by the way of talking.

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So what you have are these Tarim Basin mummies that were found also, carcazoid mummies between six feet and six feet six inches.

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So they have blonde hair, blue eyes, red hair.

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It's really a fascinating corroboration of what Casey said years before in a trance like state.

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And he talks about six fingers, which you find all around the world in Utah, you know, enormous feet, six fingers.

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This guy right here, this is from John Q. Jacobs. I hadn't been in this site, but he has. He's a brilliant researcher.

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So this guy has his feet. He has six fingers, six fingers, enormous feet, six toes.

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Chaco Canyon going up the side, six toes.

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This is from Illinois. Morse's Geographic Journal, 1838. Sorry, I'm trying to remember everything here.

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Giant foot right there, petroglyph with six toes once again, all around the U.S., all around the world.

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This is Chinese cave, the Buddha, six fingers on his hands.

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And we'll get into more of what this means.

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You know, Casey would say, the mystics would say it is a trait of the first humans, of giants and people that were of a higher spiritual state that essentially created Homo sapiens.

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And we are the prototype with five and five, smaller, you know, five foot six to six foot tall or whatever our height is.

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You know, we are the prototype for humans to exist right now.

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That's what the mystics would say and that the giants died off eventually.

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This is 100 A.D., a shroud, Egyptian shroud. I'm sorry. Twelve toes.

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This is very interesting. Iain Gazal, some of the oldest statues in the world, 8250 B.C. in Jordan, just like the site at Jericho.

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They found these statues, six toes.

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And the author of this report, a Ridd Ziffer, he writes that he believes these are representations of the first, like the deities.

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We call these people gods, or the ancient ones call these people gods with six fingers and toes.

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And he wonders if they're the refaim of the Bible. Very interesting.

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A lot of academics got into this idea of six fingers and toes independently.

391
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:08,360
And they wrote these really interesting things like it's never been picked up that there were so many of these figurines from Cyprus that have six fingers and toes, things like that.

392
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,360
Really specific, but they're working in a vacuum.

393
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,360
This isn't a well known thing and it's not collaborated on because it's kind of weird, you know, six fingers and six toes.

394
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,360
I'm not getting into a Bible quote, you know, things like that.

395
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:24,360
So clearly this guy, Brian Forrest, gave me this in a Peruvian museum, six fingers on each side.

396
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,360
This is quite strange right here.

397
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:33,360
They found this bronze idol in I think 4000 B.C. in Kiev and he has six fingers.

398
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,360
And he's got these space boots on, so I don't know if he has six toes.

399
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,360
But that's real. That's not like a fake artifact that you see on Facebook sometimes.

400
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,360
That is a real find in Kiev.

401
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:50,360
The Germans in 1938, they were probably searching for Atlantis under Himmler's orders.

402
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,360
They went to Tibet and they found this axiote, meteoric iron statue.

403
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,360
It has the swastika there and this guy has six fingers on each hand.

404
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,360
It's really just stunning how you find it all over the world in isolated places.

405
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,360
Palenque, where we're going on our tour, one of my favorite places.

406
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,360
All over the place you find six fingers and six toes.

407
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,360
This is Malik in Iran, I think it's 1800 B.C.

408
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,360
Most of the figurines have six toes. It's really fascinating.

409
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,360
I think I'm sexually repressed, so I have too many of these slides.

410
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,360
Yeah, it's just really astounding how many of these, you know, it's very specific, right?

411
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,360
It's not like, oh, you know, it's really jumping out at me anyways.

412
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,360
This is interesting because a lot of these figurines are like,

413
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,360
you'll see as I get into it, they're angelic or winged beings.

414
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,360
And this is from Olympia in Greece and all around the Middle East,

415
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,360
from Turkey to Greece to Italy to other places,

416
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:56,360
they had these sirens that were cauldron holders and they had six fingers on each hand.

417
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,360
Many of them did, some had five, very odd, but they were like these winged beings.

418
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,360
And I will get into what Casey talks about.

419
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:11,360
He actually, and many of these sources talk about basically hybrids being created in the past in ancient Atlantis.

420
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,360
Basically all the myths and legends we have about minotaurs and centaurs, they say was a reality.

421
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,360
This genetic miscreation, this zoological nightmare.

422
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:26,360
So this guy has six fingers on his hand, which is just another odd coincidence, if you will.

423
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,360
This is in Cyprus, 3000 B.C., quite old.

424
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,360
And most of these figurines made of limestone have six toes.

425
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,360
These isolated islands everywhere, same thing.

426
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,360
This hunter, Cyprus, he had six toes.

427
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:47,360
This Mayan idol here, he has six hands and the little guy inside, six fingers, has six fingers as well.

428
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,360
I think that's really funny.

429
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,360
1300 B.C., Egyptian coffin lid, six fingers.

430
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,360
Hugh talked about this.

431
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,360
I can't verify this, but it's not like the Cardiff giant.

432
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,360
It was never proven to be a hoax.

433
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,360
It just disappeared.

434
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,360
He has six toes, which is odd, 12 foot high.

435
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:08,360
Austral Island, isolated Pacific Island at the Gauguin Museum outside.

436
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,360
This guy, you can count him, six fingers.

437
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,360
Isolated Pacific Islands all around the world, the same thing.

438
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,360
Right here, Karabati, my buddy, Eric Von Daniken, went here.

439
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,360
That giant footprint has six toes in it.

440
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,360
And this old man is standing in it.

441
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,360
And there's giant graves and legends, just incredible, like everywhere else.

442
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,360
That has six toes.

443
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,360
When you see it, it is clear and obvious.

444
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,360
And then we go to Easter Island.

445
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,360
And frankly, I just found this account.

446
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,360
I didn't even know it existed here.

447
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,360
We know all the statues and the incredible stonework there.

448
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,360
But there are petroglyphs with six toes on Easter Island.

449
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,360
And this is from George Ali's book, The Rock Art of Easter Island.

450
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,360
And in Hawaii, there's also petroglyphs of six toes.

451
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:59,360
So it just really, you know, when you have Casey saying it and the Bible saying it,

452
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,360
it's associated with giants, and you talk to indigenous people,

453
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,360
and they say these same things, it's really interesting.

454
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,360
And it's in the collective imagination.

455
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,360
This is Jan Von Skorl, 1540.

456
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,360
Adam, the original biblical Adam, was an androgynous being.

457
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:17,360
The story of Adam and Eve was like a recreation of the original.

458
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,360
That's what the mystics say.

459
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,360
So Adam here has six fingers.

460
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,360
It's associated with supernatural gods and androgynous beings.

461
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,360
That's the case I'm making.

462
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,360
And when you go over to Egypt at the temple of Esna,

463
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,360
you have Cahoon, who helped make humans out of clay.

464
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:39,360
And you have these legends and myths and, you know, sites like this.

465
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,360
I'll show you in a minute, that show humans being made, you know, out of clay, essentially,

466
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,360
birthed from androgynous beings.

467
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,360
This temple was made for an androgynous, anonymous god.

468
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,360
Cahoon was androgynous.

469
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,360
At the temple of Esna, he had six fingers on his hands.

470
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,360
So this is where it gets strange.

471
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,360
I used to try to be fake credible and stick with archeology

472
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,360
and stone masonry and dating ancient sites,

473
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,360
and I just said, the hell with it.

474
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,360
I got to go with my intuition.

475
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,360
You know, I got to give my honest opinion about what I feel.

476
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,360
And whatever happens, you know, I'm scorned and ridiculed in some circles,

477
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,360
and I just got to live with it because my gut as a detective tells me

478
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,360
just investigate all these different angles, even the weird stuff like androgynous crater gods.

479
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,360
You know, how do you make people without the right equipment?

480
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,360
You know, what does it even mean?

481
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,360
So a primitive mind does not invent myths.

482
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,360
It experiences them.

483
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,360
You know, all the comparative mythologists, I would say, are on the same page for the most part with this idea.

484
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:41,360
So this is Casey's biographer, one of them, W.H. Church.

485
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,360
In the early days of Milius's rule, this is way back in Atlantis, he's saying,

486
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,360
the separation of the sexes had not yet begun to take place,

487
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,360
though male in their outward aspect, the androgynous sons of God

488
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,360
embodied within them the nature of both male and female in one person.

489
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,360
Now, you see that in hermaphrodites today, you know,

490
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,360
there is this aspect of, you know, positive and negative within, you know, every human,

491
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,360
the ability to be male or female.

492
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:11,360
And by turning to the creative forces, they could become channels to bring into being

493
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:17,360
androgynous progeny after their own kind imbued with a double soul and a double sex body.

494
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,360
In this way, sexual intercourse was unnecessary as a means of propagation.

495
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,360
Now, that doesn't sound too fun, but all these other sources are saying the same thing.

496
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,360
In the Babylonian expedition, Hilbrick says this,

497
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,360
the androgynous nature, this ability to beget out of himself, his own ego,

498
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,360
the self-existence is inherent in each and every god of the Sumerians.

499
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,360
All Sumerian gods are androgynous.

500
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,360
Then we have this guy, he shows up after the flood with his man bag.

501
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:51,360
His name is Oannis, and he spread wisdom and mathematics, and we will get back to him.

502
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,360
He was androgynous, also known as Dagon.

503
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,360
You see the beard and the breasts, the representation of his androgynous nature.

504
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,360
He showed up after the great flood, and they say he was a hybrid creature

505
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,360
who would go sleep in the ocean at night.

506
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,360
Just stick with me, it sounds weird.

507
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,360
You go on the other side of the Atlantic, and at the Olmec side of Leventa,

508
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:18,360
you have Quetzalcoatl with the man bag, and he was born of an androgynous father being Ometeoto.

509
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:24,360
He is an androgynous demigod who showed up after the flood rocking this crazy man bag

510
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,360
and sharing wisdom with everyone.

511
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,360
So these cultures were not supposed to be connected.

512
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:33,360
It's very odd that Veracocha, who's right down here, he's rocking the god self icon,

513
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,360
and I will get into him as well.

514
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,360
He showed up after the flood.

515
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,360
He is the androgynous crater god in Peru, but it's very specific in the text.

516
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,360
This isn't some ethereal idea.

517
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:50,360
This is what is said, at the top of the cosmological order was the androgynous divinity, Veracocha.

518
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:55,360
Pachacuchy yamque leaves no doubt as to Veracocha's sexual duality,

519
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,360
for above his or her image are the inscribed words, whether it be male, whether it be female,

520
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,360
ideologies and class in Inca and Peru, a wonderful book.

521
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,360
Another book, the Andes by Jason Wilson.

522
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,360
Inti, the sun god, was himself issued from Veracocha, the androgynous creator

523
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,360
at the center of the Peruvian religious culture for 2,000 years.

524
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,360
Whether he was Androgynous or not, all these sources are very specific about it.

525
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:27,360
Plato, in his symposium, Aristophanes displays knowledge of an ancient myth of the Androgen,

526
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:33,360
according to which our original nature was by no means the same as it is now.

527
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,360
Excuse me.

528
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,360
When the Androgen was split into two halves, the distinct male and female sexes were created.

529
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,360
So Plato was talking about this, and Plato was talking about Lantus,

530
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,360
and Plato was talking about the great flood, and it's just fascinating how this guy

531
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:54,360
with an eighth grade education in a trance state is really lining up with all these unrelated sources.

532
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,360
It's really fascinating.

533
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,360
Reference to a race of Androgens, which once inhabited the world,

534
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,360
occur in the midst of both East and West.

535
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,360
In the Western tradition, this primordial Androgen is to be found in the writings of certain

536
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:13,360
of the Kabbalists, Gnostics, Neoplatonists, Swedenborgians, and Theosophists.

537
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,360
In the Rosicrucian Fellowship, mankind was male and female before being separated

538
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,360
into two distinct sexes as man and woman.

539
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:27,360
During the period when man was thus constituted, fertilization must have occurred within himself,

540
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:33,360
nor is this any stranger than that many plants that are so fertilized today.

541
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,360
I apologize for throwing so much at you, but I'm really trying to make this case that all these sources

542
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,360
are saying the same specific and strange thing.

543
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:46,360
So Steiner, he describes the point in evolution at which human beings split

544
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,360
from being androgynous and single-sexed to becoming male or female.

545
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,360
And the entire world is littered with Androgynous deities.

546
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:01,360
Native Americans, Zunis, the Aboriginals of Australia, it's just stunning.

547
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,360
Everybody has an Androgynous creator god, which I would say is not a creator god,

548
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,360
it's more of a different kind of evolved human.

549
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:14,360
And we've devolved into what we are now, kind of a warring, separate race of humans

550
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,360
that's hopefully waking up from a nightmare.

551
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,360
And that's what all the mystics are trying to do, is to wake us up to our real nature.

552
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,360
And the Freemasons and the Rosicrucians said the same thing, and they carried this information

553
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,360
and iconography through the Dark Ages, the Androgynous nature of our being,

554
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,360
our God-Self, if you will.

555
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,360
So you see this iconography everywhere, even the Templars.

556
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,360
This is like, oh, it's Satan. No, it's the duality of different forces.

557
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:45,360
There are breasts and the goat head. This is the Androgynous aspect of human.

558
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:51,360
And it's crafted in a way that the unconscious mind can understand what's being said.

559
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,360
It's not like, oh, that's a goat person.

560
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,360
There was a higher meaning in these symbols by the secret societies,

561
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,360
which I spent a lot of time studying, the works of the Rosicrucians and Freemasons.

562
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,360
So we see this symbolism.

563
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,360
This is really interesting. This is Johannes Richter wrote this book called Sky God Deus.

564
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,360
These are all unrelated people, and they're saying the related things.

565
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,360
It is hard to believe that people have already been devoted to a singular Androgynous deity

566
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,360
20,000 years ago, but the Paleolithic sculptures are quite explicit.

567
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,360
Many multi-headed sculptures have been found,

568
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,360
and one of the oldest identifiable sculptures made of ivory of mammoth

569
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,360
and found at Gagarin on Ukraine is claimed to be 22,000 years old.

570
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,360
So this Androgynous representation is joined at the head.

571
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,360
And another academic, this is Erid Ziffer.

572
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,360
He explores the idea of Androgynous created deities in the first atom,

573
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:48,360
Androgyny in the Aien-Gazal two-headed busts, a very interesting scientific paper.

574
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:53,360
So Ziffer says that the two-headed busts are a representation of the Androgynous being.

575
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:59,360
And they occur at Aien-Gazal, 8250 BC.

576
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,360
So some of the oldest statues in the world are remembering this Androgynous race.

577
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,360
Six fingers and toes, two heads.

578
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:13,360
He even starts to talk about Bekli Tepe, and this is like a really well-respected academic,

579
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,360
that they might be, the T-shaped pillars might be showing this Androgynous nature.

580
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,360
So I'm very anxious to see further digging at Gobekli Tepe as well.

581
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:28,360
And here are these six toes, two-headed, you know, these created deities

582
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:36,360
being worshipped as an ancestor cult by some of the oldest, you know, societies to have statues.

583
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,360
And there's the six toes right there.

584
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,360
I would like to, this is what Ziffer says,

585
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,360
I would like to suggest that these statues represented mythical ancestors from the dawn of mankind,

586
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,360
and that the two-headed busts among them represent the first human being,

587
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,360
the Androgynous prototype of humanity.

588
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,360
So you see these two-headed busts everywhere.

589
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,360
I think this is from Turkey, two-headed busts.

590
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,360
Janus, the Romans, the Greeks, everybody had the Androgynous gods.

591
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,360
It's really fascinating.

592
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,360
Here's Kuhum, the Androgynous creator, crafting humans out of clay.

593
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,360
And here's Thoth, the Atlantean king who showed up after the flood,

594
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:21,360
who is Androgynous, Ibis-headed, and he's dealing with the ram-headed Kuhum.

595
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,360
And these beings are known to be Androgynous, or at least that is the legend.

596
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,360
He's writing down the years that this person's going to live.

597
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,360
Hope he gives him a couple more.

598
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:34,360
And once again, here is Oannis, or Dagon, the Androgynous being who showed up after the flood.

599
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,360
Here's the Australian Aboriginal deity.

600
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,360
It's a long name I can't pronounce.

601
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,360
So the world is littered with these Androgynous deities.

602
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:50,360
Boa Island in Ireland, the male and female, both sides of the statue, both heads.

603
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:56,360
So obviously it's tough to convey the Androgynous aspects in a sculpture.

604
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,360
So you have breasts and a penis, or two heads.

605
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,360
These things show up everywhere.

606
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,360
This is what Casey said.

607
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,360
This is where it gets weird if you thought it wasn't weird already.

608
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,360
Many of these hybrid creatures of mythology, such as the Satyrs, Centaurs, and the like,

609
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:15,360
are said by Casey to have inhabited the earth from the early days of pregeneration in Atlantis.

610
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,360
They were known as the Things.

611
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,360
Casey talks about the sons and daughters of the law of one, of light,

612
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:31,360
having a battle with these people called the Sons of Belial, the ones who turned sacrifice into human sacrifice.

613
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,360
Casey says that you would build altars to sacrifice your separate self, the false self.

614
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,360
You would get rid of hate and judgment, and you would have ceremonies that dispelled that,

615
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,360
that had nothing to do with sacrifice.

616
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,360
And these dark, selfish forces took over, and we see them in the world today.

617
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,360
There are clearly people oriented to selfish, malevolent behavior,

618
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,360
and there are people like this crowd who are oriented for the good of all.

619
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:58,360
So that split existed, Casey says, and the Sons of Belial created these Things, if you will,

620
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,360
to work in the fields, you know, and some people say that this is like the Bigfoot creature,

621
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,360
intelligent but trapped in an animalistic body.

622
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,360
So make of it what you will, but there's more support for this idea.

623
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,360
Casey said that they actually, the Atlanteans founded Egypt,

624
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:20,360
and they created temples where they would surgically help these beings who had like half goat, half man,

625
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,360
and I know it sounds strange, but hang on.

626
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,360
So all around Egypt, you find these different chimera everywhere.

627
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:35,360
And oddly enough, you also find, which I found interesting, is this, it's more like a creature of Greek mythology.

628
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,360
So check this out.

629
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:43,360
Berosus tells us, Oannes, the fish god who shows up after the flood,

630
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,360
he was a benevolent being who brought mathematics and everything else.

631
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,360
This is what he says in this great chronicle, wrote it down.

632
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,360
In ancient times, when there was nothing but darkness and water,

633
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:59,360
strange creatures were formed in the fluid, including men born with two wings and some with four wings,

634
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:05,360
and two faces, and had one body and two heads, and they were both masculine and feminine,

635
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,360
and they had two sets of sexual organs, male and female.

636
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:14,360
This is what this fish being who showed up with a man bag is saying, and here he is right here.

637
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,360
So 500 years later, Eusebius of Caesarea says the same thing, essentially,

638
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:26,360
and they produce double-winged beings and more people with legs of goats and horns on their heads,

639
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,360
and others cloven-hoofed, and more with horse bodies and human torsos.

640
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,360
They also rot bullheaded men and even other monsters,

641
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:40,360
whose images remain in the temple of Belos, one next to the other.

642
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,360
And here you go right here. You have goat people and these winged beings.

643
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:51,360
All the specific crazy creatures are represented all over the place, all throughout the world, once again.

644
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,360
And this is a Sumerian demon with the four wings.

645
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,360
This is from Sumeria as well.

646
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:03,360
So you'll look at these people, like the Sumerians were off the charts as a civilization,

647
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:08,360
where they really liked delusional, and they made up all these weird winged beings and gods.

648
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,360
It just seems irrational for such an intelligent people.

649
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,360
Then you get to the Mai and the Inca and the Native Americans, and once again,

650
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,360
I've sat with elders and it's like, these people have this shit together, you know what I mean?

651
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:22,360
It's really pretty obvious that they're tapped into something that is true.

652
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:29,360
So right here, you have this winged being again, and he is embodying the god self icon,

653
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,360
which I'll get back to, which is another fascinating coincidental aspect of this whole thing.

654
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:39,360
So still in the seals, you see that, you just see these weird beings, you know.

655
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:44,360
Is Casey right? Is Eusebius and Barosus right? Or Annus, are they right?

656
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,360
Because I always wondered, you know, like, scientists is none of these questions,

657
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:54,360
but this alternate, strange view of history that is agreed upon by all these different unrelated sources

658
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,360
answers all these strange questions of lost worlds, missing legends.

659
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,360
It explains the crazy stonework around the world.

660
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,360
It explains how civilizations can spring up overnight so sophisticated,

661
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,360
and why there is similar iconography all around the world.

662
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,360
This version explains it. That's why it's very compelling to me.

663
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,360
Why are you going to spend all your time creating, you know, goat beings and these winged creatures

664
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:21,360
that are specifically talked about, like Barosus, four wings, four wings,

665
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,360
and these beings have man bags, once again, right?

666
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:32,360
And then this mind god on the other side, the Atlantic, he has wings and he has a man bag, right?

667
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,360
Another winged being, like I said, these cauldron holders.

668
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,360
This is from the early 1900s. I believe this is in the collective imagination of people.

669
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:45,360
That's why it lingers. That's why this fascination with Minotaurs and these other beings.

670
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,360
The Formorians, they showed up in Ireland and they fought Kukulcane, who had seven fingers,

671
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,360
and you can find that in Wikipedia. He was like this golden god from Atlantis,

672
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,360
who fought the evil Baelor from the sons of Belial.

673
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,360
So this guy was a real a-hole, and he brought with him this zoological nightmare of all these beings.

674
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,360
I like the fish guy. But it's embedded in myth and legend everywhere.

675
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,360
It's just fascinating. Like Hugh says, everywhere you go, you get the same myths and legends.

676
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:15,360
You talk to some elder in some Pacific island, and he's telling me the same thing that this Native American,

677
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,360
Lakota chief told me. It's like, what is going on, you know?

678
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,360
Thank you.

679
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:29,360
So back to what Casey said. So this Minotaur, this creature, has six fingers.

680
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:35,360
Just another specific alignment of these seemingly disparate ideas.

681
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:40,360
So Casey talked about the sons of Belial, the sons of darkness.

682
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,360
He talks about Belial over and over again, being this leader in Atlantis,

683
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,360
who went to war and destroyed basically the civilization.

684
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,360
And the last destruction was 12,000 years ago.

685
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:56,360
And we know from hard science that the Younger Dryas impacts that hit the ice sheet in the United States

686
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:03,360
and it's basically caused this great flood and this cataclysm that has been denied by science and mocked for so many years.

687
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:09,360
We know it is solid evidence now. So Casey is pointing this event 12,000 years ago.

688
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:18,360
So after he dies in Qumran, the Dead Sea Scrolls are found, and a large number of references to Belial are evidenced in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

689
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,360
This is after Casey's long dead.

690
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:28,360
In the war of the sons of light against the sons of darkness, one of the Dead Sea Scrolls, Belial, is the leader of the sons of darkness.

691
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:36,360
So this dude with an eighth grade education in a trance state is basically saying what is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls years after.

692
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:43,360
And he also said that there were women in the order of the Essenes, which was not accepted by academics at the time.

693
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:49,360
And then the Dead Sea Scrolls say that there were women in the ranks of the Essenes.

694
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:54,360
So Casey was prophetic in many of these accounts. And it's just astonishing how he lines up.

695
00:54:54,360 --> 00:55:00,360
He'll say something and then you'll see bizarre creatures with six fingers and toes on a temple wall.

696
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:06,360
He could have had a team of a hundred scientists and could not come up with a better con job if that's what it were.

697
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:12,360
That's all I'm saying. So as a detective, like, you know, if you're looking into a case, you want to look at all these different angles.

698
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,360
And you don't want to be fooled by coincidence. You look past that.

699
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:23,360
So for as long as humans have been telling stories, there has been a fascination with the idea of creatures who are half human and half animal.

700
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:32,360
The strength of the Sockotype can be seen in the persistence of modern tales of werewolves, vampires, Jekyll and Hyde, and a host of other monster horror characters.

701
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:39,360
Why is this in our collective imagination? Why is Atlantis in a lost world and ancient technology? We just can't get it out.

702
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:45,360
Not only is it myth and legend and oral tradition, it is just in the popular culture. It's just fascinating.

703
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:55,360
And I talked to a lot of academics and a lot of skeptics, you know, they run their mouth about like, oh, you just want to believe in a lost world because you can't deal with the regular world, you know, things like that.

704
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:02,360
And I'm like, no, wrong. My intuition and many people's intuition is pointing to this idea of a lost world.

705
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:08,360
That's why people are fascinated with Game of Thrones and Lord of the Rings and the gradualists and the uniformitarian isms.

706
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,360
Their minds can't handle the enormity of the true story of human civilization.

707
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:17,360
So they hide in these, you know, academic realities where everything is nice and slow.

708
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:22,360
I would say the you people are the brave and the courageous ones who can think open-mindedly.

709
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,360
And I don't want to disparage. I'm just saying that is a small way of thinking.

710
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:33,360
That's bad science, too, to not incorporate every different, you know, angle or, you know, avenue of evidence you can follow.

711
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,360
So I believe that these things are in our collective consciousness for a reason.

712
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:50,360
Whoa. So in an effort to unravel the history of the past, I've sat in many ceremonies, ayahuasca ceremonies with shamans and medicine men.

713
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:57,360
And I've heard versions of reality that and I've experienced versions of reality that are wild, that are incredible, that are multidimensional.

714
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,360
And it's not some drug trip. You deal with, you know, the horror of the pain of the world.

715
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:09,360
You deal with deep psychological, seated stuff comes up, very challenging, you know, sitting for 12 days and meditation and ceremonies.

716
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:17,360
And the friends, my shaman friends, just give this brilliant alternative history of the world that has an alignment with what I'm saying.

717
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,360
And this happens in Ecuador and Peru and in different places all around the world.

718
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,360
It's very odd. And I sat with my friend, you know, stop the ride. I want to get off.

719
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:31,360
Santiago is a San Pedro shaman. And he told me about his ancestors building Machu Picchu.

720
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:37,360
And he said, go to the hitching post of the sun because it was built as an amplifier of intent.

721
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,360
And whatever prayer you give there, the ancients would want to amplify.

722
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,360
They use geometry and mathematics and the understood ley lines and things like that.

723
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,360
And just like Alan said, where do these people come up with this knowledge?

724
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:54,360
You know, we live by alongside, you know, with our skyscrapers and satellites.

725
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,360
Aboriginal people don't even know we exist.

726
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:03,360
Fifty, a hundred thousand years ago, the mystics will say in the middle of Atlantic existed Atlantis,

727
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:09,360
an advanced civilization that after it was destroyed, shared the knowledge and re-promulgated society.

728
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:14,360
So maybe that's the answer to the solution. Manbags.

729
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,360
Graham Hancock first pointed this out for me, but I've been on this case for a while.

730
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,360
So you have the crazy man bag that all these beings are carrying.

731
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,360
Winged Anunnaki Sumerian guy has it. So what's with the wings?

732
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:32,360
There's another man bag. It's just fascinating how many there are all around the world.

733
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:37,360
Right. And in Sumeria, you know, this is a ziggurat of Ur.

734
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:43,360
We have Plimpton 322 that was just analyzed. Alan, I don't know if he's here still, may appreciate this.

735
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:51,360
So our research reveals that Plimpton 322, that cuneiform tablet, describes the shapes of right angles,

736
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:58,360
right angle triangles using a novel kind of trigonometry based on ratios, not angles and circles.

737
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,360
Mansfield said it is a fascinating mathematical work that demonstrated undoubted genius.

738
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:09,360
It's actually a new way to do trigonometry. It is off the charts and it's been decoded.

739
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:17,360
And where did these people come from? And this is the guy with the man bag who showed up and shared the arts of civilization and mathematics.

740
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:25,360
That is in the Sumerian texts. It's just fascinating that that level of mastery existed within the Sumerians.

741
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:31,360
And they're like eagle people with four wings that are their gods and they were all carrying the man bag.

742
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:37,360
You know, to me, this is like a really specific, just incredible coincidence.

743
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:42,360
And our fish buddy has the man bag here and these angel beings have the man bag.

744
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:48,360
And there are man bags in museums all around the world, which is quite fascinating.

745
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:53,360
And they're not just in the Middle East either. You find them at the Olmec site.

746
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:58,360
And here you go once again, the Mayan site. I don't know who this dude is, but he has a man bag.

747
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00:04,360
That's from central Mexico. This guy 1800 BC from Colombia. He's got a man bag.

748
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:10,360
This is kind of strange. You know, everybody thinks it's some kind of technology, but these beings, they're called the Atlantides, I think.

749
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:15,360
In Hildagall, Mexico, I believe, they're carrying some kind of man bag.

750
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:22,360
At the Bishop's Stone in Ireland, this guy has a man bag. And Andrew and I are probably going to have a fight about this later.

751
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:29,360
But I think these are man bags on pillar 43. And we'll see when the excavate further if there are more specific ones.

752
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:34,360
I think he thinks they're vulture boxes. And I don't know who's right until we build a time machine.

753
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:39,360
But it's fascinating. Gobekli Tepe is starting to embody some of these things I'm talking about.

754
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:47,360
Androgynous crater gods. And I will get into that later in a private discussion with Andrew.

755
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:52,360
I'm fascinated to figure it out. So this is my buddy Richard Cazaro.

756
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:58,360
He wrote a couple of books, which I'll show you. But Veracote to the Androgynous crater god is above the gate.

757
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:05,360
He's embodying the god self icon, which is found all around the world. And I will show you that is really fascinating.

758
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:10,360
So Bess, the Egyptian dwarf god, is also doing it on this doorway.

759
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:16,360
And you find it in doorways all across the world here, not just in Peru. This god self icon.

760
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,360
So what does it mean? It's the balance of opposites.

761
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:26,360
It's the integration of the separate self with the higher self, the embodiment of our true spiritual nature.

762
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:32,360
It is part of a lost religion of Atlantis. That's what the mystics would say.

763
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:38,360
The correct good of all, oriented to the good of all, the understanding of the holographic nature of reality.

764
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:45,360
And you find the specificity is really incredible. Two snakes in each hand in Peru and Egypt, one snake in each hand, and other places.

765
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,360
If I had like 15 hours, I would still I would keep hammering you away with this kind of stuff.

766
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:59,360
And I don't want to do that. I hope I'm not bumming you out. But to me, it's so fascinating how much there is and how much symbolism is just entirely similar.

767
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:05,360
And you find this all around the world. I just find it utterly fascinating. Right.

768
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:16,360
And this Babylonian wing being, he's doing it once again. And these man bags have these these guys embodying the god self icon.

769
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:23,360
And I talked to Richard, a lot of the beings like this guy are known to be androgynous. And he said, yes, I found that my research, too.

770
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:28,360
I was just fascinated when I was in Peru. I kept looking at Vera Kocha. I'm like, who is this guy? You know, it's like.

771
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:34,360
You know, if I was hooked up to a lie detector test, I'd say he's like this Atlantean advanced being who showed up after the flood.

772
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:39,360
And I just got to, you know, you start talking about you drop the A word. It's like this guy's out of his mind.

773
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:46,360
But, you know, I just feel compelled to share this. And I hope it like, you know, all resonated well.

774
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:51,360
But if I just didn't put as much information in, I don't think the point would be made.

775
01:02:51,360 --> 01:03:01,360
Just the fascinating collection of disparate sources saying the same specific and bizarre thing about the past is extremely compelling.

776
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,360
And I can't I'm just a freak. You know, I'm just going to continue to dig into this.

777
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:11,360
And like I said, Hugh has a similar mind. I'm really grateful for all the researchers who've done the work.

778
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:18,360
Somebody like Alan, right, who's done this incredible amount of research, and he's really incontrovertibly mathematically proven this thing.

779
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,360
But it's dismissed because you're talking about a lost civilization. As simple as that.

780
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,360
A perceptual shift can drag us to truth, right?

781
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:33,360
Like right now, we could be experiencing different levels of existence coming in and out of our, you know, our time frame here.

782
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,360
Inflation theory and quantum mechanics are talking about multiverses, you know.

783
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:45,360
Let's have an open mind and let's, you know, let's use science the way it should be used in the service of spirit and the service of something larger.

784
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:51,360
And that's the problem. It's like male dominated left brain. You know, I'm sorry, you go to the doctor and I'm grateful.

785
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:58,360
But there's not this holistic approach to science. So I encourage everybody to, you know, have have a holistic approach.

786
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:04,360
And I'm grateful that everybody here, you know, has that, oh, God, you know, has that disposition.

787
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:10,360
It's really heartening, you know, I feel at home here, you know, it's really a cool experience.

788
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:16,360
So Liz's line is pretending to be stuffed animal. I know I'm a weirdo. I used to have 17 cats.

789
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:22,360
I took in a bunch of cats to care for them. Then we gave them like to our friends and stuff. So I really love cats.

790
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,360
I must be. It's my Egyptian reincarnation.

791
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:31,360
As you said, we're doing this tour and they're going to be really cool. And if you can go, I'd really recommend it.

792
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:38,360
It's fascinating. Brian Forrester, he's brilliant. He's a really sweet guy. His wife, Irene, is really nice.

793
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:44,360
Hugh, I grudgingly must say, is a brilliant researcher who knows everything about the Olmec.

794
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:50,360
And I'm the guy who will buy you a beer. So that is it.

795
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,360
Thank you.