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This is your host James and I am delighted to be doing a magnetic show today

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I got my three friends on the call. I have Mr. Brian Forster

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I have Hugh Newman and I have Andrew Collins all Titans in the field of

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Megolithic research and others as well and we're gonna get the latest updates from the guys

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So let me just bring the guys in one at a time. I guess hi Brian. You're very welcome to the show

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Thank you very much James. Oh great to hear you back again Brian

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We have Hugh Newman on the call as well. Hugh can you give me your voice read please?

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I'm here for you James. Oh, okay to hear you brother

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We will be seeing each other in the megalithamania. We're gonna get into that as well a little bit on the show

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How I to see you soon for a TV interview as well. Hugh. I'm gonna name you down for TV interview

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That sounds good. Yeah, and we have Andrew Collins on back under shelves around Andrew very weird there

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Yes, I'm fine. Yes, I'm happy to be back

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Lots of things happening so what we're gonna

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Excellent well, I'll keep the rotation for the audience and you know wow Brian what's new you

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Where do I go do I we got the NAY analysis to talk about Lebanon, Bailback

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Let's do I'm straight into some

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Megolithic stuff first. I guess Brian here. How did you get on Lebanon tell me about Bailback? I place I've always always long to go

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Well, we had actually quite a trip it was from Lima to Mexico where we spent six days

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Looking at toll tech and Aztec sites

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Then to the US then to Egypt where we spent two and a half weeks and then four days in Lebanon

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The main focus being ballback which is completely mind-blowing. I have to tell you

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just on the on the trip from

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They route and traveling through the

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The valley to get to ballback

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We were all very

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Deep anticipation and the first thing we saw was the quarry with two massive

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Thousand ton plus stones lying for us to observe so we had a full day there

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It was a we're going back every year every April. Oh wow

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What's your feeling there, Brian? Adize perhaps the biggest known megalists we got at the moment

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Well to put it in a nutshell it seems that whoever was doing this initial construction

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They were working with enormous blocks some 400 tons

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Some 800 tons some 1200 tons and

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With the two that are still in the quarry I think what it tells us is that whoever was doing the initial work

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Suddenly stopped work and the site was left for probably thousands of years until the Romans decided to build things on top of it

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But it is very very mysterious and I urge anyone who has the opportunity to go with a visit ball

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Beckett's very safe there. There's no

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You know terrorists or anything like that

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Lebanon is a very wealthy country and

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We had a fabulous time. Oh wow. Yeah, that was my only concern people always think about

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You know Lebanon's a troublesome spot, but it's quite peaceful in your wrecking life

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Oh, definitely we were 20 miles from the Syrian border and

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You know massive agriculture large wealthy farm houses

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Everyone was just doing their daily activity

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Very little security was necessary

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So a lot of what people see you know on mainstream television is garbage

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It's possible southern Lebanon is problematic but that part of Lebanon is very plastic and

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Has ballback oh wow, you know Brian and like you mentioned the Romans there

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A lot of the archaeologists state they focus all the Romans built this temple and these these massive massive enormous make-a-lit spot

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Like you say that the Romans came in later on there

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Just like many ancient sites Brian they just adopted what was there?

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Well, definitely and even our tour guide it was Lebanese said that the reason why the Romans decided to build

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With you know 400 800 and 1200 tons stones is they wanted to show the local people

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Their amazing prowess and architecture and as soon as I heard that I just broke out laughing

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Somebody obviously made that story up because they don't understand the fact that

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Someone was there much farther back in time and had the capability of

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cutting out these huge blocks and moving them more than a mile and

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pushing them together with incredible accuracy yeah, wow

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Tell me about this big joint obelisk Brian this monster. I mean

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What's your feeling on that was that like the obelisk of of Egypt?

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Well, there are two giant stones still in the quarry and there

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You know you have to spend almost as much time in the quarry as you do at the site of Bobcad cell because it tells you the story

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One of them again a butta thousand tons was cut from the side

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The limestone bedrock out crop and tumble down and is in its original position. It's you know

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It was later quarried by the Romans because you can see pieces that were removed

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but the main one that some people call the

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The pregnant

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pregnant mother or something like some odd name it still attached to the bedrock and

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So you can see that you know a lot of work was done on it

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But suddenly it seems suddenly the site was abandoned because there's a massive crack on one side that I think the ancient

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Builders were following in order to release the stone from the bedrock

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But they never managed to to actually remove it and there has been recent excavation around that stone itself

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So it allows you to see where some of the other giant stones the impressions of where they were removed from

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Most be great to see to still have been situ in the quarry you brought it. Oh, it is I mean it's a real it's a real detective story

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We saw evidence of I think machine marks

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involved in attempting to cut away the 1200 stone block

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From its bedrock base and again this mysterious crack that's in the front and follows all the way down one side

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But it's not on the other side. I'm not sure if that was

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Something done by those trying to extract the stone or whether that was a natural crack

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That they were actually trying to work with in order to at some point remove this

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You know this giant block that is remaining in situ. I think that's the point to

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To worth noting their brain that bigger to piece of stone your 20 carvettes of the ground the more chance you're running into hitting a natural crack

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Yeah, and actually the the thing is that that's stone it as you can see in any photograph

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It's at an angle. It's not you know perfectly horizontal

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So the top surface matches where this crack is underneath

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Wow very well and you can see where where they were doing the undercut right where the crack is

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In order to try to liberate the stone, but they never managed to finish the job

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Incredible

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Do you see any comparisons between there on the unfinished obelisk in Egypt?

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An asthma

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Actually the the technology used at

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As one it's different

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But another fascinating thing about ballback is that we had two geologists with us who invent

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hours and hours at the as one quarry with us and they were able to identify at least a hundred pillars if not more of

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Granite which are in

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Terrible shape in ballback, but they identified that stone is having come from as one which is a thousand miles away

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And I think a servant of it's saying a hundred granite pillars. There may be 200

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Wow

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I think incredible right Brian do we do we attribute these to the cane and i'd stand these these

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Megalithic structures and a Lebanon is it safe to probably guess that?

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I would I would think so actually Andrew knows much more about the cane and i'd send the so-called

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Nephilim than i do but mount her mom which is supposedly where they're

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Nephilim descended and you know showed their presence on earth

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We saw as we were driving in the bus

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It's actually in the neighborhood and the gargantuan effort involved in doing this work

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Is not something that the Romans could have possibly

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Done i don't think so it's it's one of those sites like Egypt where you find Megalithic work

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Peru and Bolivia where you find Megalithic work attributed to

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You know very specific well known cultures but indeed there's a lot of evidence that

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A lot of this working all of those countries was done thousands of years prior by mysterious people that were trying to figure around

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Sure wow Brian so interesting let me move on Brian i'm gonna come back to you and catch up on some

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DNA results as well um you know i love what you do Brian it's just it's fascinating because i know you've got this

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I know you got this is serening eye from from the from the knowledge of all the places you've been and and

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Great to hear this feedback Brian them you know i haven't heard it spoke about like that before in Lebanon

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You got here on the call next that you tell me about your trial was i believe you've been to good nine padaying

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Yeah tell me what's happened to my good nine padaying tell me your feelings there you oh my god

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Yes, okay yeah good up a day i ran i went there after

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Then it's all to and call what and then

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Continue down to Java

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And the good of the day is very strange place i mean

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You call it now you know java's matching picture because it's this hilltop site

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These tens of thousands of blocks it seems these and the site

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Probably go in all kind of columns that almost look like that kind of shaped like crystals

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All over the site and we were there Danny Hillman and you can see this you know the different levels

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Going all the way down we went right down the side of it and he some really dating and the Andrew talk about this as well

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But some of the dating there is quite remarkable going beyond eight thousand bc

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But even suggestions he even got some

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Parts of the dating which needs more analysis than going back 20 thousand years or so so

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There's quite a lot going on there and

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It's an absolutely fascinating place it's like it's just like shouldn't be there

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It's just like where is the culture where did this come from

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We had a bit of an exciting journey a couple of days after we went to try and find some other

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Monoliths nearby

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Called the gunstone gunrock

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Which actually Andrew we'll talk about

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He's experienced with that as well. I'm sure but I'm gonna but Danny certainly

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It should be on people's wishlist just like ballbag

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It's a stunning place

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Tell me about the stones they had there a hue dirt they saw like the what are the basalt columns there like basalt basalt basalt

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And actually and a site which is the same as you find till when aku and Puma Punku and

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So you actually get the same kind of crystalline rock wow

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The forms naturally into columns like that they've obviously been moved and placed and piled up in a certain way

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I mean, they're not huge some of the some of the ones on the lower levels that round

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I think the western side

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Quite large

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That were the lower levels

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But it's the same type of rugy you get a tier one aku and we're a punk it obviously you find this is different areas around the world

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And so and there's also a acoustic some of the stones have been smooth so you have a acoustic effects

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He knew which is another aspect of the site

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And but it's it's really really fascinating really unusual place

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But there's a lot more to be done there

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But we filmed a whole load there some got a few video we've got one video we put up online on the mega lithiumania

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YouTube channel and we've got other ones we're gonna do as well

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But there's such a pretty vast site and and there's a whole kind of culture going back very very long time ago around the whole area

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This obsidian culture which is what Andrew's been researching and writing about recently

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Wow fascinating you

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He'll what you're feeling what why is this place only come to the fore from the freezer to now?

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Why has it been hiding I think it's been non a book for quite a while

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What's it? It's a bit like if you're other sites really it's just recognizing it was known about since the early 1900s 1914

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I think it was first reported but no one had any idea of the age of it because

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You do find sites you know kind of similar to that and give them you know that part of the world

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Not quite as to the extent of good of the day

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It really didn't come to the forefront of something any human who's the geologist who lives in bounty of bando

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The nearby the main town there that he when he's dating came out it really kind of opened the door for that place

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And now it's been endorsed by the government. There's an official visitor center

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By tickets that the relay and the road and all this kind of stuff which is great because it's preserving the site

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It's given it the energy it needs

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But it's like you know sites being discovered all around the world. We look at the back of your tapie for

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And then that was only discovered a relatively short time ago and

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When he was known about because some stones were found on top for a very long time people thought it was some

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Relatively you know not very old by zanting cemetery. So there's a lot of them

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There's a lot more under the ground and a lot more

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More sites yet to be recognized for what they truly are

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I think this is the era where a lot of these revelations are gonna come out

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The reports on the dates do you hear it's like it's like it's like a nil de Québec

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Tepi I know they're kind of paradigm boosted over here. It's like this massive date

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Some say 20,000 some say 16,000 I know the reason still has to be done, but that's that time frame is now pushing

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So far back it's like

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The good thing is that there's a geology a really professional really thorough geologist working on that

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Danny Hellman who's really kind of you know going to push the science to be done properly there and he's got to

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Got a lot more research to do

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That's for sure

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Before we conclude you know exactly you know that the era as it was being used in but it's like you know

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As we know back at the back of the tapie. I mean that that's like a paradigm shift does it's really changed everything

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And that was carbon day by German archaeologist that we can't be any messing about with that one

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And so I mean the thing we're gonna be done you don't get the fine stone relief carvings that you find it

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Come back to the tapie or an Egypt or Peru that kind of thing is very like

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Some of my slight the stones it's being built. There's no evidence culture there you can't find any carvings

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You can find these cut marks which is something that fascinated me in any which we didn't even know about

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With that missing any photos or film of this before we went there these sort of cut marks which you find

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It's a very British Scottish tradition and the mega-lithic sites and Irish as well

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Would you probably know about yourself and these cut marks all over you know hundreds of these stones?

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But I've seen these cut marks and I've talked about them a wrote written about them over the years

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At you find the megabekly tapping on top of the pillars in the bedrock very several places

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You even find examples that till when I go in the old mech well even on Easter Island and so it seems like

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Either it's some kind of very strange natural thing which is unlikely

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Or is this part of the tradition part of the mega-lithic builders kind of a similar

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I leave it at the site incredible

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Some reports saying that it's what actually just on the kind of columns and the construction and a layout

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It's kind of it reminds me of the place in French Polynesia

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Nanmador the way it is like evidence of these structures of Leo and all these

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Maybe not on the same scale, but

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It seems to be like the evidence of structure but obviously at lacking in art

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Any similar

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I've heard these comparison I've not been a name of doll yet but I've seen a lot of film footage and photos

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And I David children

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Great hand cock and others have been there. I am planning and I believe Andrew is what to go there

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When we sell these days in next year you can get little flights and go there

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But I want to have a look at that for myself and make the comparison because the thing about Nanmador

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It seems that like the stones kind of crisscross

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You have one going in one direction and another layer going in the other direction

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So it gives it likes stability and that would build into the into the sea

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You know it's almost like they built part of an island

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Yeah, this huge construction

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But that but no one as any clue who really did that I mean that's been attributed to giants and things like this

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So yeah the comparisons have been made but there are a few little anomalies you find at Gunnabadang

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Which do match other sides you get these cut marks

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You have some of the building techniques

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It's almost like hilltop mountain top

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Temple and also it's got several magnetic anomalies up on the site which you've been recorded by Danny Hillman

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He's a geology so that's what he specializes in and he's found these positive and negative magnetic anomalies right where

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These particular parts of the sites were said to be like the throne and the crown and all these other things

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And so that intrigued me because that's something that's been

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Recorded it all over the world of magnetic sites as though they were deliberately building where these anomalies were

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To go into open states or to even charge their seeds up and so I'm also there's a phone line going across about half of my other way along the front edge of like the mountain

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hill

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So and that can a lot of sites or often built with that nearby or in mind as well

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Incredible you if you're going to French pun and if you're going to nomad on you and Andrew I'm coming

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It put me under play with you guys. I don't care what it costs

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I'm going there because I'm going on a cup of corn TV field trip for sure. It's my daughter on stream to go there

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That's a plan expedition. Yeah, definitely yeah, you let me know about the details of that

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You think this is a pyramid?

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Do I think it's a pyramid? Yeah, it's like a man-made hill stroke pyramid people are given reports then it's it's

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Badly weathered but it was built on a man-made hill. It's not I mean it's built upon the top of a natural hill

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I think and it's been then you know it's been something put on the top of it as such

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So I don't think it's a pyramid from the base upwards

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Like you find an Egypt or other places but

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It's just one of the the most intriguing places I've ever been to and it's got this real magical kind of quality about it

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Just the environment the jungle environment

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It's even got a sacred spring that a natural spring in the base of it which was actually built around so they were like it was

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It was a huge sight

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It was many thousands of years

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But it's not technically I don't think it's a pyramid. I mean Andrew might correct me or have other opinions about that

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But I don't know if it's a pyramid it's more of a hilltop structure much like matchy pitchers and hilltop structure

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That's not a class of the pyramid, but so there's it's not such an unusual site

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I think it's got some kind of genre

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Sure

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Andrew, wow great response to there Andrew anything on the decaying night in the nepheline and the challenges of Bellebeck

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I've got a couple of articles on

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Angicolies.com all about the pre-Roman evidence of activity at Bellebeck

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And yeah, I mean there is there is a lot of activity there

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Probably going back at least to about 2500 bs so I mean there's nothing really that goes back any further as far as our

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Absolutely knowledge of the site, but of course you have these legends and a lot of them suggests that

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It's got something to do with you know, cane or that you know the one of the

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You know the sons of Adam building it and that he was the origin of these so people none of the Kenites

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And that you know they were giants and you know they invented the first

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Smithy and the first metal work or estimate, but I mean how much these legends really actually relate to what's going on about a back

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I don't know and although

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You have these incredibly large blocks which has bright says must be incredibly

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Impressive

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Before jumping to too many closions to conclusions there is one possibility and I mean bride will you know

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Perhaps answer this and that's the fact that there are

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Pillars actually within the Roman temple there of so switch are many hundreds of tons in their own right

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And to create those you would have to have of

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Chisel out blocks you know many hundreds of tons even more than those actual pillars

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You know just like obviously

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Gebecli tap hay

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There's 50 ton

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Unfinished stones in quarries there, but by the time that they would actually reach the site as erected

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There would probably only weigh about 15 to 20 tons

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You know, but you have to have that amount amount of access around them

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So they can be chips and carve properly into shape so that's the only get out claws at the moment

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But Brian might have something to say about that a little later on, but

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If I can pick up the the good the good number dang

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Oh, yeah, for the moment. I mean obviously I second everything that you said

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I mean it is an extraordinary sight. I mean, you know and I mean basically what you've got is a

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Natural volcanic plug. I think that's what it is originally

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Somewhere inside of which is a lava tune

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In other words like a vertical

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Chamber and this seems to have been the focus of building activity on the site and it was seeing the

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A tear structure was built around this volcanic plug using the undersite

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Colomna blocks which what probably

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I'm saying from the site itself and then reused and reposition to create the monument itself and

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These were built

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Originally in tears to create this pyramid shunt actually on the hill itself and this would seem to have been done

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As much as between eight and 13,000 years ago

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With evidence of activity

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Going back even further probably an association with this this cave like you know lava tube

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In other words that would seem to have been the main focus of activity and what they may have been doing

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Is capping some kind of supernatural power that will seem to be associated with this cave like structure

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And the reason why they would be doing this is

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Is that directly in front of the number day is a mountain which is in fact volcano known as

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Gunon put giddly and

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This is a volcano very active volcano and it's quite clear that the number day

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In its current state and even within the lower layers themselves that they all have the same

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Orientation directly towards this volcano

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As if this volcano represents some kind of personification of a god maybe a fire god or or some kind of

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Create a god or something like that and

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That everything seems to be focused around the idea of

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Troll of the natural elements

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elements

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Specifically around fire which would represent

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You know that the the the status quo of the world in other words

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What they were doing there were rituals and activities that would

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Keep the balance and harmony in the world

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So that there was no longer

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volcano eruptions cataclysms and things like that and I would say that some kind of similar was actually going on at

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Go back to tap-hate

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You know what I've said and written about there is that one of the main functions of go back to tap-hate

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Was to try it and keep the status quo universe to try and stop

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supernatural foxes

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Coming into the physical world like comets and

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Asteroids and things like this to try and keep them at bay or the supernatural foxes

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See the responsible for these cataclysms and

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Rectuals you know shamanic practices or rest of it would be done to keep this status quo

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At so in other words, I think that there's a very similar

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purpose behind both go back to tap-hate and

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Conunper dang even though they are on opposite sides of the world

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They would construct it probably around the same time at least say 10 to 12 thousand years ago in both cases

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And in conunper dang's case possibly even earlier than that by

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Thousands of years so there is a commonality here

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But the bigger question is if there is a commonality

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Does it involve some kind of loss-civilization and that's really

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What we need to establish?

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We need to establish whether there is some kind of mother-civilization behind this some people might call it

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Atlantis the Muria or mu or weather you get flowerings of civilisation at different in different

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parts of the world that open like flowers for a few thousand years and then clones

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due to cataclysms, you know floods disease famine things like this and another

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Flower if you like open till somewhere else in the world and that also they continues for a few thousand years before closing itself

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In other words, whether this is a cyclic thing

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Or whether there is a single great loss-civilization out there somewhere that's responsible for all of the

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Engineering technology and how and the bliss practices behind such you know how full places as

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Gebetli Tepai and Ganobodang

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Incredible, you know I think the more progress that's made and the discoveries are coming in faster

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I will talk a bit about the Bolivia and permit as well

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But the more the more that comes up and the more that's researched

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I'm definitely convinced of the ancient global maritime civilization

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I think there's too many commonalities and for other doubt too many commonalities

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My under is any any evidence of an alliance or magnetic anomalies there a good name for the

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I mean

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We went to round the site with Danny Hillman who's the geologist as doing all good work there. I mean, you know

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Without him the greater integrity of Ganobodang you know would would be unknown

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So we must thank him for all the work he's been doing there over the past five years

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I mean, he actually went brand the site and looked at every magnetic anomaly with Danny

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filming Danny and you know having conversations about each different spot and testing it out

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With any equipment that we've had with us and there are a number and he might want to talk about that

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Shockley but as far as a alignment to concern

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The main alignment as I said is the main actual axial alignment of Ganomodang is north-noth west towards the

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The peak of this volcano called Gede

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However beyond that in a time frame of probably around 8 to 9000 b set

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When it would have my certainly have been in use

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the bright the bright star the bright star Vega

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In the constellation of Lyra

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Would have been seen to set directly down into Gede. Now the importance about

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Vega is that it had formerly been a pulsed star between about

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13 and 11000 b c and

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It is recognized throughout the

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Eastern Asia and South East Asia even into Indonesia as

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Representing this goddess who is none of the weaver print sess who is seem to have forged the star

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Fulch the heavens and

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Created the milky wine and

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And she there's very stories about her losing the loom of her weaving

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You know weaving equipment and

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Somehow this seems to be some kind of memory of the star Vega shifting away from the position of pulsed star

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And even though Ganomodang

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He's actually south of the equator by about six or 70 degrees

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Java was once part of a much larger land mass

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Which is generally known to die a sunda land and this embraced a number of the Indonesia and islands including

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Bonio to the north and so

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This actually straddles the

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Equator so if you went to the north of the equator by just one degree within sunda land

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You know you would see this incredibly bright star

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Hanging over horizon around which all of the stars would turn

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No, and that must have been an incredible sight and you can understand

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Why Vega may have become important and why but the time when Ganomodang was up and running let's say between

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8,000 b c that this would have

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Absolutely

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Emphasize the significance of this star and this tradition to do with this this goddess is deity known as the weaver princess

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Who would seem to be not just some kind of supernatural

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You know, you know, percentage

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But also it seems to be connected with sovereignty

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You know and the embodiment within the queen stroke princess and that somehow

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Their lives were somehow bound up with the you know the sovereignty of the land

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In a way that that is reflected in the heavens and it's quite weird because at

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Ganomodang each of the different monuments you've got there the different stone settings

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the different rock piles of all got their own known in Java names and

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You know, I actually asked a local guardian and guide to to talk me through the whole spirit

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Mac of Ganomodang and how it relates to this this mountain called Ganomodang

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Gedai how it relates to the whole landscape and this is a marvelous incredible

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Journey which I shall you know be publishing at some point and what's important is the right at the top on the top terrace

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There is a beautiful spot with a with the stone floor and the stone setting around there

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Known as the throne and

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the throne it said is where the king would stand you know and and watch this this this volcano and next to him would stand

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You know the queen and

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You know and it was a site that that here and I realized was was the most spiritual place there and we

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We went there to do meditation so things like this and it's unquestionable that there is some

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Right of sovereignty associated with Ganomodang something like almost like Marion

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You know that the queen or the princess to the land in a way which we know

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From our theory in tradition in

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You know in western mysteries you know within Britain the idea that the king and the land are one

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You know and the as one prosperous so will the other well it seems to have something similar was going on in Java

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In connection with Ganomodang and that it was believed I think that as long as you know the raining sovereign

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We're in good health this

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volcano would not erupt but if things started going bad within the royal family

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Then eruptions could take place could cataclysms could occur

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So there's there's there's a lot there you know we're beginning to flesh out

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What exactly Ganomodang makes

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And on top of this we're looking at discovering the material culture behind Ganomodang because you walk around there and

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You do not find stone tools

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Whereas if you're at go back to Tepai you find literally

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Thousands of them everywhere

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You know and they all date to the time of construction of go back to Tepai, you know

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It's like 8 to 9000 BC roughly and then you can just you know they're just there. I mean you know obviously

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You're not supposed to pick about but you can't help but you know pick about vocation late and

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It's not there at Ganomodang and that's something that I've said to Danny Hillman you have to salt out

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I wrote to him you know since I've been back saying you know you need a field expedition in the area to try it and find

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Evidence of a material culture and they found a couple of of strange artifacts there which you know

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Which are old very peculiar but they're really fit any particular culture

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But very close by Ganomodang just in the next riverbison which is the the Bangdong bison

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There is a

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00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:06,100
Very very ancient material culture that used obsidian really to create these these flint tall

440
00:36:06,180 --> 00:36:09,460
That's what it flakes these stokes and these are found

441
00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:14,820
on the slopes all around what used to be a big like

442
00:36:15,940 --> 00:36:24,420
Within the center of the of the Bangdong riverbison and that this like started to disappear as early as 16000

443
00:36:25,620 --> 00:36:26,980
BC

444
00:36:26,980 --> 00:36:31,380
I mean all right there were small parts of it that continued on until around 2000 BC

445
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:38,660
But the importance here is that this this Bangdong obsidian culture was up and running

446
00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:48,180
And very extensive and not far from from Ganomodang perhaps 16000 years ago and there are also legends

447
00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:50,980
that link

448
00:36:51,220 --> 00:36:57,540
This weaver princess so I've been talking about with the creation of the Bangdong like

449
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:07,940
Which suggests that these tiles these stories actually go back as much as 16th to 16000 BC and if that's correct

450
00:37:08,340 --> 00:37:13,140
You obviously have a very developed culture existing around this link

451
00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:16,020
long before it disappeared

452
00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:17,220
And

453
00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:20,020
Whoever this culture is there if they cannot be

454
00:37:20,020 --> 00:37:24,180
Unconnected with those that constructed Ganomodang

455
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:30,580
You know it would be silly to suggest there was not a link and this I think is the way forward

456
00:37:30,580 --> 00:37:32,580
We now we have to try and understand

457
00:37:33,220 --> 00:37:41,940
Who created Ganomodang and who this culture where where they came from and that's what I should be trying to do you know in my next book

458
00:37:42,740 --> 00:37:45,700
Fascinating Andrew I'm hooked already brother. I'm hooked already

459
00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:51,940
Super exciting I can't believe the obsidian connection again as most of them well I mean as soon as I saw

460
00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:57,540
Obsidian I I my eyes let's up because that Andrew they bet just for the background the world

461
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:04,500
Yeah, I benefit for the oil the obsidian trial because obsidian is a high status

462
00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:10,340
Substance which is you is generally controlled by an elite group

463
00:38:11,060 --> 00:38:17,220
So if you follow the the obsidian trial that will lead you to you know elites

464
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:25,940
And you know the hearts of of you know a high culture and I think that you're fine this all over the world

465
00:38:25,940 --> 00:38:34,660
I Obsidian is so valuable so important that it's the key to an awful lot of things about understanding the ancient mindset

466
00:38:35,540 --> 00:38:39,940
Yeah, obviously and I'll from my last conversation for the TV interview Andrew

467
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,940
I was just fascinating with what you told me about the Gabbakly tapy

468
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:49,060
Location and the is city in found in that low cow

469
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:55,620
Yeah, it's incredible still found incredible great to see you out there doing the research 200

470
00:38:55,620 --> 00:39:01,220
You know a lot of respect for you as a researcher because you go out in the field and you look for this stuff

471
00:39:01,540 --> 00:39:04,740
As well as doing the the academic and the book research to

472
00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:06,660
prolific Andrew

473
00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:10,740
Well, we come up I mean if you got a right about these things you've got to go to these sites

474
00:39:10,820 --> 00:39:16,660
So then you cannot be on chair researchers yeah, yeah, you know, I mean that and here in myself

475
00:39:16,660 --> 00:39:22,740
And obviously Brian you know we go to these places. I mean yes, you know we we try and get there through

476
00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:28,100
Organizing tours and things like that because you know we haven't you know we haven't got limitless money

477
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:34,740
You know we need to be able to get to that part of the world to do our research and that's why these tours are so

478
00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:42,580
Important that the likes of Brian and myself and you put together where they beat Gabbakly tapy to prove and believe

479
00:39:42,580 --> 00:39:50,100
You're just coming up in June and July, you know or Egypt or bow back or South East Asia which is you know

480
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:57,940
Where Q and I have just been to Cambodia and then we stacked from Cambodia across into Java to see good and put down

481
00:39:58,260 --> 00:40:02,660
You know when we do these tours that's why we do that we you know

482
00:40:02,660 --> 00:40:04,660
Encourage people to come with us to these sites

483
00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:11,220
And a part of this is obviously that we can do the researchers well sure

484
00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:14,900
Of course there's it's the June tour for Peru does come on a pretty fast

485
00:40:15,780 --> 00:40:20,660
And we have me and September for Gabbakly tapy that correct that's correct

486
00:40:20,660 --> 00:40:24,580
Yeah people can still come out with us it made to come back the tapates

487
00:40:24,580 --> 00:40:31,700
So totally safe out there, you know there's a lot of people that contacts and say always it's safe, you know with all the problems in Syria

488
00:40:32,180 --> 00:40:35,620
Life goes on as normal in Turkey and

489
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:42,180
Has done obviously since the troubles began and there will not be any troubles in Eastern Turkey

490
00:40:42,980 --> 00:40:49,300
So you know people need to understand that we can try and give them you know this you know

491
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:54,820
This peace of mind to allow them to come out there because you know everything going on as normal

492
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:57,620
And you'll see these incredible sites

493
00:40:57,620 --> 00:41:00,980
You know if you if you if you are afraid

494
00:41:01,380 --> 00:41:06,980
Of just a few things that the going on in another country you'll never see anything sure

495
00:41:06,980 --> 00:41:11,380
I'm gonna link up those tours on Capricorn Radio.com and I'll stick them into the YouTube description

496
00:41:11,380 --> 00:41:13,380
My people are listening there as well

497
00:41:13,380 --> 00:41:16,820
You get that on the members page as well and boy exciting tours guys

498
00:41:16,820 --> 00:41:20,340
I love to see you guys together doing this. It's like a it's like a mecholithic think time

499
00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:22,340
God truth see you guys all together

500
00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:27,380
Moving on to Brian Brian let's come back to Peru and Bolivia

501
00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:31,460
What's happening with the new pyramid that's been discovered in T. O'Naco Brian?

502
00:41:33,220 --> 00:41:36,180
Well, I'm actually I'm not sure about that

503
00:41:36,580 --> 00:41:39,380
Is it a pyramid it's a structure anomaly?

504
00:41:40,180 --> 00:41:47,300
Well, I haven't seen any convincing photographs and that's why it's important that Andrew and he and I go there in June

505
00:41:48,580 --> 00:41:51,860
I'm actually going to be there in May as well so I'll be able to report

506
00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:55,380
First hand there are so many claims made about

507
00:41:56,340 --> 00:42:01,380
You know about some of these ancient places from people who actually haven't been there

508
00:42:01,940 --> 00:42:06,180
So what's very important is that you know it's that we physically go and

509
00:42:06,740 --> 00:42:08,740
Report on what we see

510
00:42:09,380 --> 00:42:14,820
What do we know though Brian what will let's tell you what we do know it's it's a normally that's been picked up with

511
00:42:15,140 --> 00:42:17,140
Raider is that right?

512
00:42:17,140 --> 00:42:22,820
It could be I honestly haven't paid much attention to it because there are so many planes that you know

513
00:42:22,820 --> 00:42:24,820
They go on through the internet about

514
00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:27,780
Things being discovered we do know that there are and

515
00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:30,980
that there are a number

516
00:42:31,620 --> 00:42:33,380
Out of structures

517
00:42:33,380 --> 00:42:37,380
Most likely underneath the two when I'm who complex that haven't been excavated

518
00:42:37,940 --> 00:42:39,220
Yeah, yeah

519
00:42:39,220 --> 00:42:45,380
Of course you've talked about it does a kind of cosmic fluid or some sort of a soil is covered a lot of

520
00:42:45,380 --> 00:42:47,380
That stuff there Brian before

521
00:42:47,780 --> 00:42:49,780
Yeah, it has it the holes

522
00:42:49,860 --> 00:42:51,780
I has been buried in

523
00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:53,780
Very fine red mud

524
00:42:54,500 --> 00:43:01,620
High and iron oxide which is typical of the area and there was an ancient cataclysm of some kind of either came from

525
00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:08,900
Liktiti kaka or from another lake that no longer exists that swept over the site and buried two

526
00:43:08,900 --> 00:43:11,780
Anaku and Puma Pumku in the distant past

527
00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:13,620
Wow

528
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:14,820
Brian what's happened?

529
00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:19,540
I know you do not just a megalicic research too. It was happening with respect to DNA

530
00:43:19,620 --> 00:43:21,860
Analysis and and and schools and stuff like that

531
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:27,220
Well, it's been a very long process as everyone knows it's taken more than three years

532
00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:30,740
But at this point we have a a very senior

533
00:43:31,460 --> 00:43:35,940
Peruvian archaeologist who is an expert on the paracus nascic culture

534
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:38,500
Who is leading a study

535
00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:46,340
He is a boat or he is preparing his proposal to the Peruvian government in order to be able to take samples

536
00:43:46,820 --> 00:43:53,140
From five skulls from the paracus history museum and send those samples as well as hair samples

537
00:43:54,980 --> 00:44:00,100
To a laboratory in North America that is is ready and waiting to

538
00:44:00,980 --> 00:44:08,020
To do analysis of them and as well hair samples will be sent to one of the world authorities on

539
00:44:08,020 --> 00:44:14,500
Ancient hair in the United States to study whether the red hair of the paracus is in fact genetically red

540
00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:15,540
or

541
00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:17,540
some type die

542
00:44:17,540 --> 00:44:19,540
and so we are

543
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:28,420
Probably weeks away from being able to take the samples and send them off to the lab in North America for quite quite rapid

544
00:44:28,420 --> 00:44:30,420
We think analysis

545
00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:33,700
Wow fascinating Brian. I had our and good concern to show yesterday

546
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:36,180
I tell him he is an adventurous impure and

547
00:44:37,060 --> 00:44:39,540
I just think it's so fascinating with the red hair

548
00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:43,300
It just talks genetics and when you talk to the ladies it's almost like these

549
00:44:43,940 --> 00:44:45,940
It's hard to think

550
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:52,500
Anything but hybrid or another race or another civilization or another group of people if you want to call it that

551
00:44:53,060 --> 00:44:56,900
these these people stand out the skulls that they're here

552
00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:00,340
It's hard to think anything else Brian

553
00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:06,660
Well the amazing you know the amazing thing is I just work it's not that amazing that I get it but I just finished writing

554
00:45:07,860 --> 00:45:09,860
Volume two about the elongated skulls

555
00:45:10,180 --> 00:45:16,340
Focusing on Peru and Bolivia in terms of where are these ancient people were located who did cranial

556
00:45:16,340 --> 00:45:19,460
deformation I've been able to form

557
00:45:20,660 --> 00:45:25,780
quite a specific geographic pattern and related time frame and

558
00:45:26,180 --> 00:45:31,060
the most intriguing thing about the paracus culture which is the main focus is that even

559
00:45:31,780 --> 00:45:33,780
the archaeologists

560
00:45:33,780 --> 00:45:35,780
in Peru and elsewhere

561
00:45:36,340 --> 00:45:41,780
Understand that prior to the paracus culture existing on the coast of Peru

562
00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:45,460
there were possibly some nomadic people living in the area

563
00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:53,540
but all of a sudden 800 BC you have this fully blown culture existing there and living there

564
00:45:53,540 --> 00:45:56,020
with with these Las Vegas calls and red hair

565
00:45:56,900 --> 00:46:04,020
up until about 100 AD and then suddenly you have their collapse and I think what happened was

566
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:10,020
I think the NASCA culture which moved in and took over the area were responsible for

567
00:46:10,260 --> 00:46:13,460
the termination of the paracus elite

568
00:46:14,020 --> 00:46:15,940
members who had the elongated skulls

569
00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:21,620
incredible Brian incredible of course you got that tour coming up in June

570
00:46:21,620 --> 00:46:25,860
Brian please take a moment give us that your website and where people can catch the tour there as well

571
00:46:25,860 --> 00:46:26,180
Brian

572
00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:31,220
Sure my my website is hidden in katures.com

573
00:46:32,180 --> 00:46:34,420
and that's all linked to for the tour deers well yeah

574
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:41,140
Exactly I just updated the front page today and it has a listing

575
00:46:41,140 --> 00:46:46,420
it's mainly focusing on our June tour it has links to a huge website

576
00:46:46,420 --> 00:46:51,540
Andrew's website and just emphasizing that this will be the first time to

577
00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:57,620
hue and Andrew and I have been together in South America and it gives

578
00:46:57,780 --> 00:47:05,380
all three of us a chance to share with our guests not only the elongated skull phenomenon but also

579
00:47:05,380 --> 00:47:08,660
the intriguing megalithic sites of Peru and Bolivia

580
00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:14,020
Sure you think there's a lot of commonalities that go back to Tepi and Peru from the photograph

581
00:47:14,020 --> 00:47:14,900
the footage

582
00:47:17,060 --> 00:47:21,620
Well that's what that's something we're going to discuss in the field and that's why

583
00:47:21,620 --> 00:47:26,660
it's great that both hue and Andrew will be able to share their you know most

584
00:47:26,740 --> 00:47:32,100
recent findings with us as we travel through the landscape of Peru and Bolivia

585
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:38,180
Wow sounds exciting guys I've been Peru I left my heart there is such a magical place

586
00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:42,980
Peru there's just something about Peru I love the people as well and I love the culture

587
00:47:42,980 --> 00:47:48,020
I love the climate I love the food I love the ancient monuments of course and

588
00:47:49,220 --> 00:47:51,300
along the tour Brian what 10 days is that right

589
00:47:52,260 --> 00:47:59,300
Well the main tour is Jolot sorry June 19th to 29th and there's an extension before that which is

590
00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:05,300
the Nazca Paracas area including flying over the lines and then after that is Bolivia

591
00:48:06,180 --> 00:48:10,340
where we explore places such as Tibonaku and Puma Fungu

592
00:48:11,380 --> 00:48:16,340
I just came back from Switzerland my Eric Fondanik and I've been looking at his photograph of Nazca

593
00:48:16,420 --> 00:48:21,700
it's absolutely mind blowing I actually wasn't aware just how many individual

594
00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:27,700
cliffs animal figurines and lines there was because what we see on television is like a

595
00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:32,820
sanitized version Brian we don't seem to see all the great scope of this place

596
00:48:34,180 --> 00:48:39,060
No that's true they in general most documentaries focus on maybe six of the geoglyce of course

597
00:48:39,060 --> 00:48:44,100
the spider the monkey the hummingbird but what's what's more important on this trip is that

598
00:48:44,180 --> 00:48:49,140
people will have the opportunity if they want to to take an extended flight and that takes them

599
00:48:49,140 --> 00:48:54,820
over what are called the palpid geoglyphs and there are more than a thousand of them on the tops

600
00:48:54,820 --> 00:49:02,340
of mountains including various things that look like runways geometric shapes

601
00:49:03,460 --> 00:49:10,900
some animal figures so the entire landscape that we call the Nazca geoglyphs actually goes all the way

602
00:49:10,980 --> 00:49:18,340
from Paracas on the coast of Peru in a north or sorry south easterly direction down and into

603
00:49:18,340 --> 00:49:23,780
Nazca so when you're talking hundreds of square miles well fascinating Brian really

604
00:49:23,780 --> 00:49:30,260
look forward to hearing some feedback on that as well in due course you wow I know we've got

605
00:49:30,260 --> 00:49:35,620
mega little mani coming up as well take a moment for that Brian you tell me what's

606
00:49:35,620 --> 00:49:39,860
whose comment did mega little mani what are you going to be presenting there you good nine

607
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:46,020
perhaps I'm sure good number day we're certainly getting mentioned that I think it's inevitable

608
00:49:46,660 --> 00:49:51,700
because I wasn't intending to talk about it but it never to be able to come in because

609
00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:57,380
such a remarkable place yeah the conference obviously is we do it every day some

610
00:49:57,380 --> 00:50:02,340
night made the year's the one day one with some tours and other things around it

611
00:50:02,340 --> 00:50:08,660
we've got Patrick McMannoway who's like a mast down as a geomancer we notice my amazing tests

612
00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:15,140
with sea technologies using you know metalic science to kind of develop that Richard he

613
00:50:15,140 --> 00:50:19,940
who's probably Robert he's going to be there to a best sake with number oh yeah he's very much

614
00:50:19,940 --> 00:50:24,180
in you know he's very much in the John Michelle that's going to be actually his mum

615
00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:28,260
and you and my mum or you'll actually be doing it at the conference you via us coming over from

616
00:50:28,260 --> 00:50:35,220
America she has research of giants knowing the insights Chris H. Hardy who's done the book the

617
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:44,020
sacred network and DNA because myself obviously and he and I was looking at the comparison between

618
00:50:44,020 --> 00:50:51,860
Christianity and mega-lific sites and yeah we do this every year obviously we do a conference

619
00:50:51,860 --> 00:50:57,940
what may and I have to do one in the awesome you know total in November this year every year in

620
00:50:57,940 --> 00:51:03,700
fact so far hopefully around November the 7th or 8 that's going to be a great hand-cocker

621
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:08,340
hand-cocker myself and some other very special guests and I see London you're a loved

622
00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:15,060
conference as your conference conference here we do keep fairly busy but and then after

623
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:19,780
after Megaluk for many obviously there's the Rebeccay Tepi mini tour everyone I are doing

624
00:51:19,780 --> 00:51:25,940
and then June we hop over to probably do all that so quite a lot going on this year actually

625
00:51:25,940 --> 00:51:31,060
but the time is now really you know we have to kind of get out to these places and explore

626
00:51:31,780 --> 00:51:37,060
and you know and explore as much as you can. Oh great I've had Chris H. Hardy on the show

627
00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:43,140
actually before and Richard H. I actually have his book I've read the book loads of time there

628
00:51:43,140 --> 00:51:47,940
a fascinating book I've been looking forward to meeting Richard here as well then because in

629
00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:52,740
Gontemegalith I may need my first mega-lithamania conference here I'm really excited about it so

630
00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:56,660
excellent. It's not hard to question up a bit here as well for some TV stuff as well but

631
00:51:57,620 --> 00:52:02,980
what's happening in the world of giants and research there I know that was a great for a season you did with

632
00:52:02,980 --> 00:52:09,300
Jim Vierre and the Vierre brothers what's happening with the giants research is there anything happening

633
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:18,500
in terms of press in America? Well there's a huge amount of balance what's happening is what's

634
00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:25,300
really interesting is that more and lose paper archives are being out onto the internet and so

635
00:52:25,460 --> 00:52:31,140
what's happening is more and more being discovered it's becoming this kind of insane kind of

636
00:52:31,140 --> 00:52:34,740
catch up trying to keep up to date with all the ones that are being discovered and there's a

637
00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:39,620
bunch of budding giant politics on the face now that we're like looking for all the papers for

638
00:52:39,620 --> 00:52:44,900
we've got some researches we work with us. I could make a view as it's based in California

639
00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:50,580
Andrew and his colleague Greg Little are doing some excellent research we'll stay outlined

640
00:52:50,580 --> 00:52:56,180
part of the souls and there's some other stuff we're actually meeting up with Andrew and Greg

641
00:52:56,180 --> 00:53:02,100
Me and Jim are in a couple of weeks in America to look at some sites and to sort of put a heads

642
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:06,980
together about a few ideas so that should be quite a little black to you know be back on that after

643
00:53:06,980 --> 00:53:12,340
it's happened of course but there's a Gemini almost finished up book was just working on the last part

644
00:53:12,340 --> 00:53:18,420
of the book we were hoping to get out from Megal at the main of but it's unlikely to be honest with

645
00:53:18,980 --> 00:53:27,060
but we are soon after and there's such a vast amount of research and data and you know it's

646
00:53:27,060 --> 00:53:34,180
just finding the bones, the teeth, the skulls that's what we want and this is what the TV shows really

647
00:53:34,180 --> 00:53:39,220
help with is put us in contact with a whole bunch of people who watch the show on history channel

648
00:53:39,220 --> 00:53:44,260
and they've actually contacted us and looked at what stuff we've been showing so we're going to follow

649
00:53:44,340 --> 00:53:49,700
some of the up over the next few months towards the end of the year as well and see if any

650
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:56,580
revelations come out about that but the fact that you've got a Smithsonian actually digging up

651
00:53:56,580 --> 00:54:03,940
very large skeletons you know 17 accounts of that you have to kind of realize it's a very real

652
00:54:03,940 --> 00:54:10,260
thing it's not just made up which a lot of skeptics are trying to say nowadays there's a

653
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particular ones I won't mention of names but they're trying to discredit the whole phenomenon

654
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where if you look at just the basic facts it's an incredibly difficult one to deny even you know

655
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because you get tall people nowadays you get people with two moments of teeth nowadays it's not

656
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it's not that unusual but in fact then in North America there seem to be a whole race at

657
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these giants who were pretty phenomenal beings well actually it's documentary where there was a

658
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it was a better dinnie and the legend of giants there and the megaliths and the

659
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did I had a tooth and again it was a cover-off that tooth went missing as soon as it goes into the

660
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museum stuff's never seen again ups we lost at type of thing you know it seems to be the operating

661
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system stuff gets a lot I've never known so many I think putting stuff in a museum sometimes

662
00:55:03,780 --> 00:55:07,620
you can't really tell me the worst place you could think well the problem with North America is this

663
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there's a couple of different things first of all you got this with some people and the seems to be

664
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a lot of disappearing skeleton with the skulls we've been there's debate as to whether it's

665
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conspiracy whether it's just ignorance but there's so many accounts even the ones they kind of dug

666
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up themselves and they're still in denial about it after the present day and then 1990 the

667
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magmaicum graves repatriation act from the slide we were came in and that was a inclusion between

668
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the magmaicum and the government to remove all Native American remains and public display so

669
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hence every single giant skeleton or skull or tooth or anything that was on display boom it gets

670
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reburied so it's gone so there so you got the Smithsonian problem and you got magmaicum if you

671
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and it's actually illegal to even you know actually show anything you know you know

672
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book or TV or anything like that show any of these remains so even though there's a debate

673
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about these giants whether they were ancestors in the Native Americans whether some other

674
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diffusion is going on a pretty history you just have a lot of red hair giants in the west and

675
00:56:22,180 --> 00:56:29,300
some in and some of the east about eight or nine thousand years it's a real it's a real tricky subject

676
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and all we can do is you know share the accounts publicly in in book form out TV or whatever we can

677
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do and hopefully you know it's really well emerged naturally wow wow yeah you know it sounds

678
00:56:46,740 --> 00:56:52,100
fantastic and sort of dishes to me bro that's things of it but that's just my own personal opinion

679
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:58,020
that this whole stuff disappeared in the museums and that like I say I mean who would want that

680
00:56:58,020 --> 00:57:07,140
evidence out there I mean you know if it's if there was another group acting in history I mean

681
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the archaeologists it would just shake the foundations of all archaeology it really would you know it's

682
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I think the best thing they want they would do would put it on a box and label it and unhide it you know

683
00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:23,780
yeah I agree I mean it's like anything that's a stressful covered up it makes you want to

684
00:57:23,780 --> 00:57:28,500
investigate it doesn't it so I think this is one of those classic ones it's like Brian's research

685
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:34,180
on the scones um you can improve the lives it's the same with these giants in North America I mean

686
00:57:34,180 --> 00:57:40,980
it's it's sort of crazily kind of intriguing subject seems to have almost like a spell it was part of

687
00:57:41,540 --> 00:57:46,340
so not people researching it talking about it and that's felt like you broke it and now everyone's

688
00:57:46,340 --> 00:57:53,140
going right okay let's get into this let's this this challenge what's going on here and see if we can

689
00:57:53,140 --> 00:57:58,500
expose it because to me you know it's a real it's like with a malefic sight it's like anything it's

690
00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:03,940
like this is these are iron sets these are our relations going back you know hundreds of thousands of

691
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years so it's actually our heritage um legacy so we need to kind of honor that a little bit

692
00:58:11,540 --> 00:58:16,900
a lot of the ones that press it and let our people suppress it cover up actually you know it's a

693
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human right my opinion and we need to kind of expose it and get it out into the mainstream

694
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especially can very well said Brian very well our he was very well articulated it is our heritage

695
00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:36,420
it's our own human journey and whatever branch of human we're talking about it's our own story

696
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our own legacy and you know we're living in a time of history and research now that's just

697
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cutting edge it's it's cutting edge history all the way now I never seen history so much of life

698
00:58:47,140 --> 00:58:51,620
you please give us a moment to give us that your website we can catch the the tools that we've

699
00:58:51,620 --> 00:58:58,580
been talking about plus the conference yeah for sure yeah it's just www.megalyth our mine here

700
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dot co dot UK says megalyth our mine here dot c.o dot UK everything's on there it's also you can

701
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get a huge human dot co dot UK and it takes you to my page on the megalyth from India side and

702
00:59:11,540 --> 00:59:18,660
just you know Google megalyth our human you find everything you know we're up to excellent and

703
00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:23,460
the great information on the whole tour there in whose hill and the boy the boyals on yourselves

704
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great to see all that there brought our hue and Brian and Andrew together really really exciting

705
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and looking forward to rotates on that as well and just finish up a two-hundred like guests what's new

706
00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:43,620
for you with the denose of the hybrids and that type of research? Well this is another area that's

707
00:59:43,620 --> 00:59:52,820
opening up so much now because of the DNA research that's being done on early human remains by the

708
00:59:52,820 --> 01:00:00:00,820
max plank institute in like sick in germany and basically what they've been doing is testing

709
01:00:00,820 --> 01:00:09,140
the nuclear DNA and the mitochondrial DNA of you know nanotiles the denose of earns and any other

710
01:00:09,140 --> 01:00:16,180
you know really early fossil remains going back at the moment to around 450,000 years ago

711
01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:24,020
what they're doing is given us a much clearer picture of you know not only these different

712
01:00:24,020 --> 01:00:31,940
archaic humans as they're known but how they mixed with each other and how they quietly

713
01:00:31,940 --> 01:00:38,740
integrate to create hybrids whether that be Neanderthal human hybrids, denisitive human hybrids

714
01:00:39,380 --> 01:00:47,620
or there's actually been a tuban found in the auto-mounted which saved examined and it has

715
01:00:47,620 --> 01:00:56,900
the DNA of four different types that homo sapiens, Neanderthal's, denisivans and our chaotic human

716
01:00:56,900 --> 01:01:03,700
that they don't even know what it is because they can't match it against anything. It could be

717
01:01:03,700 --> 01:01:10,500
homo erectus that's the best option at the moment and who homo erectus is one of the earliest

718
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:17,380
forms of human that supposedly died out you know maybe about half a million years ago but it is

719
01:01:17,380 --> 01:01:29,140
none that a form of homo erectus continued on in Java down to about 25,000 BC and that there's

720
01:01:29,220 --> 01:01:36,580
evidence that they continue to exist in Java possibly even in parts of China I mean recently

721
01:01:36,580 --> 01:01:45,220
a huge great jawbone was found dredged up by fishermen off the coast of Taiwan and it's so strange

722
01:01:45,220 --> 01:01:52,580
that you know they don't really know you know what type of human is come from and again the best

723
01:01:52,580 --> 01:02:00,420
guess is that it's homo erectus but if it is it's very light possibly as late as 15,000 years ago

724
01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:07,220
so you know that there's all of this all of this this melting part of activity and we need to

725
01:02:07,220 --> 01:02:14,820
understand how any of this might have affected the rise of civilisation because it's okay being

726
01:02:14,820 --> 01:02:20,340
a Neanderthal you know we're told that they are you know that they were sluggish they were

727
01:02:20,420 --> 01:02:25,540
brooch they were this and the other but we now know that's not true we now know that they

728
01:02:25,540 --> 01:02:32,420
that they painted caves they walked they adorned themselves in feathercoats you know they they used

729
01:02:32,420 --> 01:02:40,100
musical instruments and almost certainly they had some kind of religion evolving the burial of

730
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:45,860
their dead they could speak probably little different to to you and I something that again is

731
01:02:45,860 --> 01:02:52,420
I need very recently been confirmed and they had their own different mindset that a mindset

732
01:02:52,420 --> 01:02:57,540
that was quite different to homo sapiens you know I think in the early days we were probably

733
01:02:57,540 --> 01:03:03,300
survivalists you know we were territorial we we'd go in bash the people on the head and take

734
01:03:03,300 --> 01:03:08,660
over there land and then just move on and you know and do this whereas Neanderthals have been

735
01:03:08,660 --> 01:03:15,300
around for hundreds of thousands of years developing their culture their way of life and it seems

736
01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:24,260
as if they had a stronger traction to the moon and to the idea of women cycles and its

737
01:03:24,260 --> 01:03:30,820
relationships to the moon and may I've developed this into some kind of religion well the fact

738
01:03:30,820 --> 01:03:39,620
is that when Neanderthals came together with humans it created almost like a new type of human being

739
01:03:39,620 --> 01:03:45,220
something that had completely different mindset one the dreamy you know sort of other

740
01:03:45,220 --> 01:03:53,140
worldly mindset of the Neanderthal but also the survivalist rationalist side of the homo sapiens

741
01:03:53,140 --> 01:04:00,820
and it seems as if huge advances actually occurred once this hybridisation took place now

742
01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:12,100
we homo sapiens you know interbred with the Neanderthals in the West but in the East and Asia

743
01:04:12,180 --> 01:04:18,660
it was the Denisovans and we know that the Denisovans as much 40-50 thousand years ago

744
01:04:18,660 --> 01:04:25,460
from evidence coming from this Denisovacay the Neanderthal mountains were producing incredibly

745
01:04:25,460 --> 01:04:33,460
high you know items of high culture including these bracelets in this green stone

746
01:04:33,460 --> 01:04:38,740
known as clotorite which looked like something that might have been produced just a couple of

747
01:04:38,740 --> 01:04:46,180
thousand years ago I mean they're just extraordinary and more than this the the teeth that

748
01:04:46,180 --> 01:04:51,220
were found in connection with the Denisovans are of large size and there are various accounts

749
01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:56,260
that suggest that when they were first found it was still they belonged to a cave bear or something

750
01:04:56,260 --> 01:05:03,460
because they were so large and there is other DNA evidence that suggests that the Denisovans

751
01:05:04,420 --> 01:05:11,780
were in fact of extremely extremely tall in night shut they may well have been giants

752
01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:19,780
and that the admixture of them and homo sapiens could well have created the giants which

753
01:05:19,780 --> 01:05:25,780
roam the land particularly in North America but almost certainly in South America and of course

754
01:05:25,780 --> 01:05:31,700
in other parts of the world and that these giants may well have been Denisovans human high upgrades

755
01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:38,500
this is a very exciting prospect it's something that I wrote about with Greg Little in the

756
01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:44,980
book Path of Souls last year and I should certainly be writing a lot more about in a new book which

757
01:05:44,980 --> 01:05:49,460
has a work entitled of hybrid origins which I'm you know which will feature the number

758
01:05:49,460 --> 01:05:56,900
Dan Denisovans you know and much more of what we've been talking about today so you know this is

759
01:05:56,900 --> 01:06:03,780
the area that I'm looking into now because it does seem as if when hybrid's are created civilisation

760
01:06:03,780 --> 01:06:10,980
follows very quick like do we have like my great re-re-rutes from Denisov a cave and obviously

761
01:06:10,980 --> 01:06:18,020
probably heading south towards down into our Turkey um well that would obviously be the western migration

762
01:06:18,020 --> 01:06:24,900
yeah and yes there is and it goes basically from the the all-time mountains through the euro mountains

763
01:06:24,980 --> 01:06:33,300
into central Russia where as early as 30 to 40 thousand years ago they were incredibly advanced

764
01:06:33,300 --> 01:06:42,980
communities that had astronomically aligned longhouses made of wood and a mammoth bone

765
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:51,620
we they had agriculture they had a fully developed mother goddess cult you know with these beautiful

766
01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:58,820
venous like statues um they had tailored clothing they had communities which wouldn't be

767
01:06:58,820 --> 01:07:04,740
out of place in medieval times and these people were known as the Gravatians and their main

768
01:07:04,740 --> 01:07:11,940
centres were in central Russia and also in the country that we now know today as a republic of

769
01:07:11,940 --> 01:07:18,820
what the Czech Republic, Czechs of Akea form a Czechoslovakia these are they two big folk hilarious

770
01:07:18,900 --> 01:07:28,740
and what's clear is the the the heart of these are Neanderthal human hybrids and the descendants

771
01:07:28,740 --> 01:07:35,140
of these peoples went on to be known as the the Swedenians and the Swedenians whose whose

772
01:07:35,140 --> 01:07:41,460
culture stretch from the Carpathian mountains in the west right the way across to the the big rivers

773
01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:48,500
of Russia like the Volga and the Don River or most certainly there descendants were the ones

774
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:56,100
that came south at the end of the the last ice age and entered into Anatolia and I think

775
01:07:56,100 --> 01:08:01,940
became the power elite behind the construction of the Beckley Tepai that that seems to be a pretty

776
01:08:02,820 --> 01:08:11,060
sensible solution to what was going on in Beckley Tepai so there is a link between

777
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:19,940
Beckley Tepai via Russia to the Altay mountains and there from there eastwards through Siberia

778
01:08:19,940 --> 01:08:27,540
places like Lake Bakal across into North America and South eastwards into places like Java

779
01:08:27,540 --> 01:08:34,180
you know where we have gone under Padang so there is actually a link behind all of these

780
01:08:34,180 --> 01:08:40,420
cultures and I think that one of the keys to understanding the loss of civilization if you're like

781
01:08:40,500 --> 01:08:46,900
east hybridization that is I think the key that as that's why I'm looking into it so strongly now

782
01:08:46,900 --> 01:08:50,740
now first thing and of course we can catch all this at Andrew Collins dot com

783
01:08:51,620 --> 01:08:54,740
because you'll get the origins compass there and we need to decide a bit that under the sea

784
01:08:54,740 --> 01:08:59,460
that on again you're self-adieu there and Graham is well making the appearance and yes yeah I mean

785
01:08:59,460 --> 01:09:04,260
it's not absolutely finalised yet you and I are working on it as we speak

786
01:09:04,820 --> 01:09:11,380
you know to try and find the lies it so just watch this space as far on all of our websites

787
01:09:11,380 --> 01:09:15,860
regarding how we go there okay so I'm going to link all the sites on youtube just give you

788
01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:21,780
then the cover coin video and members page coverconredio.com guys absolutely fascinating talking

789
01:09:21,780 --> 01:09:28,500
to all of you guys uh wow what a mega little ground table that was such exciting news as well and

790
01:09:28,580 --> 01:09:32,500
that's the exciting research going on I really thank you for all your time today guys

791
01:09:33,300 --> 01:09:38,660
no it's a pleasure absolutely yeah it's great talking to you James Crone good

792
01:09:39,060 --> 01:09:56,260
you can learn the QHST process my coming to one of the classes

793
01:09:57,860 --> 01:10:05,940
the problem is I have stopped taking the long trips I was doing many many trips a year

794
01:10:06,020 --> 01:10:12,340
to all the countries of the world these were long 14 16 hour flights and we were having a

795
01:10:12,340 --> 01:10:19,300
hundred people in each class and all these different countries but if again to take a toll on me

796
01:10:19,300 --> 01:10:25,540
that I don't want to be traveling that much out of the country anymore we were still doing

797
01:10:25,540 --> 01:10:34,180
classes in the United States too but we decided I would no longer take the long trips out of the

798
01:10:34,260 --> 01:10:42,980
country so we're only doing one live class a year in America so we're going to do one a year

799
01:10:42,980 --> 01:10:50,740
in the American and we have advanced classes that are available we're still doing those all over the

800
01:10:50,740 --> 01:10:59,060
world but if you want to take the class and you can't do it live anymore the classes are

801
01:10:59,060 --> 01:11:07,220
available online it was a filming of an actual class that I did and you're getting the same

802
01:11:07,220 --> 01:11:13,460
instructions that you would if you were sitting in the class the only difference is you're not there

803
01:11:13,460 --> 01:11:19,940
to ask questions but all those students ask lots of questions if we always say everything you'd

804
01:11:19,940 --> 01:11:26,980
want to know is more even asked anyway so online you will get the same instruction as you would

805
01:11:26,980 --> 01:11:37,940
in a class and that's available and many many people are taking that now and we now have this class

806
01:11:37,940 --> 01:11:46,020
translated into Chinese and Spanish this is going to be available for those people in those countries

807
01:11:46,020 --> 01:11:53,540
to take the class in their own language and we're also putting it into other languages so it's

808
01:11:53,700 --> 01:12:00,900
growing and this is another way to do it if you can't come to a live class but I have to

809
01:12:03,460 --> 01:12:10,820
well the ones I worked with they said let technology take over then rather than me traveling

810
01:12:10,820 --> 01:12:19,380
all over the world let technology take over you have the equipment use it so we'll see how this is

811
01:12:19,380 --> 01:12:27,380
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