1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,240 Okay so hello everybody welcome to the origins conference 2017 so we're going to start 2 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:24,200 with something quite big today. Giants, Giants skeletons that have been found all across 3 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,960 mainly Britain but we're going to veer into a couple of other countries as well. This 4 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,760 is really part of something I've been interested in probably what six or seven years 5 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:42,640 myself and Jim Vieira who's speaking later, come off the book Giants on record but one 6 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:49,120 of the most fascinating books I've ever read about Giants is the 1978 book called 7 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:54,720 Sowers of Thunder by Anthony Roberts some of you knew him of course from the 8 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:01,160 70s and 80s he was a Glester Ferry and the idea of Sowers of Thunder and its 9 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,720 relationship to Giants really fascinates me I just want to give you a quick outline of 10 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,880 Anthony's ideas about Giants and the ideas of Sowers of Thunder and what it really 11 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,400 means and it really is about when the graves of Giants were disturbed it would 12 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,040 bring on lightning and thunder as they were cursed it was placed on these giant 13 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:26,280 burials it suggests a supernatural power that these ancient Giants once had. Sometimes 14 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,080 if you dig these graves and these storms happen bad luck and even death and the 15 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:36,640 family could happen. It also was connected to how these Giants were answered his 16 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,680 work and it was how these Giants connected with the landscape the geomithic landscape 17 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,320 he called it working with earths natural energies to bring fertility and 18 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:49,280 an adjustment to the landscape which was a theme that John Michele also worked with 19 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,880 who was one of his contemporaries but it's also about the curses and about the 20 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,520 storms which was really fascinating because we know that some stone circle sites 21 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,760 for instance which actually feature in my stone circle was book when they were 22 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:07,120 disturbed by excavators and obliterators they would often bring on storms and 23 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:12,000 thunder and lightning so bad that they had to stop working they wouldn't dare 24 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,880 disturb the stones again some accounts for whales are really interesting we're 25 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,840 going to have a look at some examples in here that storm was even break out when 26 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,240 Giants were being buried so not only when they were being disturbed from their 27 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:31,080 restful burial but also when they were being buried themselves. Anthony Roberts 28 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:38,400 born in 1940 died on top of Glastonbury tour in 1990 fascinating I never knew 29 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,040 in myself but I've kind of been following his work I've all his books and 30 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,080 pamphlets and I'm pretty much obsessed by the so-as of thunder book and it's 31 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,720 really the inspiration for the continuation of my Giants research with Jim 32 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:57,000 Viera. Jim and I are involved in a show called Search for the Lost Giants which 33 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,960 really started Jim and his brother Bill and this was on the history channel back 34 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,600 in late 2014 it was pretty popular and there's going to be other TV shows 35 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,000 stemming from that but not all about Giants about ancient sites and mysteries of 36 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:16,720 the stones as well but one of the problems we have with the Giants is these 37 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:22,240 photographs that we see all over the internet now unfortunately every single one 38 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,000 of these they may be very compelling they've repaired in books they've even 39 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,640 appeared on TV shows or websites everything you can think of unfortunately 40 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:38,520 every single one of these is a hoax created mainly in a Photoshop competition 41 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:44,360 from 2002 online so this is one of the problems we're dealing with as serious 42 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:50,560 geontologists is dealing with hoaxes and dealing with disinformation and also 43 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:57,080 dealing with skeptics because there's really little evidence to go on here but 44 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,440 today I'm not going to try and prove to you the Giants existed in Britain I'm 45 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,360 going to just give you an outline of the foundation stories of Britain and 46 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,520 their relationship to Giants with about probably 50 examples of giant skeletons 47 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:15,760 that have been found throughout this land from a prehistoric times it's said in 48 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,320 Wales at the first name of the island we now call Britain it was not Albian it 49 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,440 was mere dinners precinct the much of a pronounced that correctly basically 50 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,720 Merlin's precinct and it was from the Welsh text called the white book of 51 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,360 Rydirk and I'm not sure if I pronounced that correctly either this was even 52 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,600 before it was populated it had this name it's almost as if Merlin was seen 53 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,840 a sunk some kind of god of the Isles before he appeared in the later stories of 54 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:46,320 Jeffrey of Mom and Obers but it's also he's connected with Giants and sometimes 55 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,920 he's even referred to as a giant in many of the ancient Welsh texts and in 56 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,560 some of the traditions but some say the first inhabitants of Britain connected 57 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,560 possibly with Merlin were descendants of Norris Sun Ham you came from Africa 58 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,640 around 4,000 years ago other versions state that Norris Sun Jepeth had arrived 59 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,040 even earlier but the lineage is always connected with Giants or at least 60 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,760 descendants of Giants in chronicles of England Scotland and Ireland by a 61 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,720 Raphael Holland shed he describes a legendary prehistoric giant called Albian 62 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,880 he made his way to the island up to be embanished from his home land in Greece 63 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,200 it was begotten by the sea god whom the Greeks called Poseidon or the Romans 64 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:36,320 called Neptune now after defeat in the already existing culture with clever 65 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:41,040 strategy and brilliant feats of arms. Holies shed also stated that Albian and 66 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,320 the Giants were set for a gradually consolidated air position in Britain 67 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,400 ruling the land for potentially hundreds of years and he was one of the 68 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,960 classic antiquarian images we have of the Giants building 69 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:58,520 megalithic sites is actually from the book Megalithomania by John Michelle from 1982 70 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,040 after the long reign Albian went to the south of France he's just a couple of 71 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,480 examples of Maxwell giant skeletons that are reported in this part of France 72 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,840 and it was in a place called Gould at the time to help his army defeat 73 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:18,280 hercules this was apparently the last of the ten labours of hercules and what 74 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:22,840 it was strangely to fetch a unique herd of cattle they came under attack by 75 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:28,160 hercules and the lugurians living near the mouths of the Rome try to take the 76 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:33,680 cattle away and were led by two other sons of the god Poseidon but Albian had 77 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,680 warning over clash and arrived to help but to ensure winning hercules 78 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,360 summoned his father Zeus and showers of stones fell from the sky and these were 79 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,240 used as weapons against Albian and the Giants and they were all completely 80 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:51,480 defeated this is according to this particular tradition but there's an 81 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,840 archetypal form of Albian which which held strong and the inspirational works of 82 00:06:56,840 --> 00:07:01,560 William Blake saw to it that Albian was a key symbol in the spiritual nature of 83 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,880 Britain that was succumbing to Christian beliefs with the druids and 84 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:11,040 megalithic sites being remembered and not dismissed by this new Christian 85 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:16,200 uprising Albian seems to represent the last remnants of wisdom of the line of 86 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:22,000 Noah Anthony Roberts wrote, giant Albian became a total archetype both for a 87 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,720 primal magical conception from the collective unconscious and for a vision of 88 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,400 his energizing image running across the surface of the sacredly realised 89 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,200 topography the giant race of Britain a giant race of the Britain are set to 90 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,760 have continued for 600 or more years although this could be much longer it could 91 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,520 be representing thousands of years and they ended up mainly according to some 92 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,660 traditions in the south west tip of Cornwall this was until Brutus and the 93 00:07:48,660 --> 00:07:53,760 Trojans arrived but others say they ended up in Wales as well as we'll see 94 00:07:53,760 --> 00:08:00,000 from some of the world traditions but interestingly Albian the name of Britain 95 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,320 may not have come from the giant Albian which many people think it may have 96 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:09,360 actually come from a Greek giant test called Albina who originated in Greece 97 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:15,720 and this is an image of her and some giants in the background in the 98 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:21,400 Chronicles of Britain written by John DeWavron between 151445 and 1455 they 99 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:26,240 relate to a time of Jehe in the third judge of Israel after Joshua and Lady 100 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:32,240 Albina Albina and sisters came to and settled in the islands of what was 101 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,960 called Alb, they named Albian after her another version of Cese was a very 102 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,280 tall and beautiful girl and so she potentially a giant jeans a father a 103 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,360 mother also described as taller than average and a father was set to a 104 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:52,160 real gold grease for 3970 years ago before this book all these writings were 105 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:59,080 done it was an Anglo-Norman poem one version states that a father was the king of 106 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:05,600 Syria but basically he had 33 what he could wicked daughters and to subdue them 107 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,960 he arranged for 33 husbands to you know take care of them and so on and so 108 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:17,560 forth but they decided to plot against her father and the husbands and slid all 109 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:23,320 their throats and then they were taken to poor and a father summoned them and to 110 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,360 be banished from the land and they were sent to this island in the far north 111 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:33,480 west which was Britain and they were set at Rift and they went on many 112 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,840 adventures with the assistance of demons they populated the wild wind 113 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,640 slept winds swept islands of Britain and created a race of giants and we'll 114 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,880 come on to that in a moment so it's quite a kind of convoluted different myths and 115 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,360 traditions here but the more we look into this we more we find echoes of 116 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,760 potential truth in the historical record now these were called the demonic 117 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,520 incubi who kind of appeared occasionally out of nowhere and they would then mate 118 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:06,400 with the 33 wicked daughters who be banished and they were disappearing again 119 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:11,000 these incubi and their offspring were giants can a ballistic giants in 120 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,400 fact this is not dissimilar to the stories we have with the Neffelin and the 121 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:21,120 watches and how the Neffelin became these unruly cannibalistic giants after 122 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:27,040 meeting the female's mate with the watches so we do find echoes of the Old 123 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,480 Testament here as well in the book of Enok so there are strange 124 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:39,160 connections here which we'll look into more as we go through the talk but even 125 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,360 after they gave birth to this new giant race in the lands of now called 126 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Albuy and after Albuy and in the court into this tradition there were no 127 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,000 men to part of the sisters so they had to breed with their own sons of an 128 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,760 appropriate age of course and the daughter is bred with the brothers and this 129 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:03,000 continued this lineage of very large statute offspring who became very unruly 130 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:09,560 an extremely cannibalistic and started over taking the land and you know 131 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:13,440 this is as echoes of these stories recorded from some giant bones that were 132 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:20,480 being found in the 1400s so he's just one example from an Anglo-North script by 133 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,760 a writer called Barber they're talking about huge bones which can be found in 134 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,160 many places throughout the world evidence for this and I'll let you read that 135 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:34,000 yourself but it basically gives a description of huge skeletons reported in the 136 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,640 1400s and the giants were once hideous to look at because evil spirits had 137 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,840 begotten them their fathers were devils and their mothers were tall and well 138 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:49,200 built they were just the children you would expect from such a union so there you 139 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:55,240 go and that this so called fairy race multiplied as bred across the land 140 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:00,360 the built great cyclopia walls, domines, earthen ditches and the like they 141 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,680 preferred mountains and hills or high places much like we get with the 142 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:08,160 Nephilim and the watches and the biblical giants and they could dominate 143 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,760 their territory and be safe from attack and from the time of the arrival of Albuy 144 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,400 and to the arrival of Brutus some tradition say it was 260 years which is an 145 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,160 interesting astronomical number or even 600 years depending on different 146 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,280 versions it could well have been thousands of course and eventually they 147 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:31,080 reduced the number battling between themselves and about 24 this is a 148 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:37,000 specific number were left in Cornwall and one of these giants was called Gogg Magogg 149 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,440 which will come on to in a moment but in the world traditions the giants also 150 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,640 survived there as well and so there's different traditions in different parts of the 151 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,880 British Isles and then we have obviously a Geoffrey of Montmese history of the 152 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,000 Kings and Britain which is a fascinating book in its own right whether it's partly 153 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,880 fiction and partly based on actual traditions or even fact historical facts 154 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:06,520 has been under debate for nearly a thousand years it was written in the 1100s 155 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:12,880 but according to that hundreds of years after the giants have populated the 156 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,640 island Brutus the great grandson of the Trojan hero NES 157 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,720 slummy made his way to Albuy and with his men fleeing from the ruins of Troy after 158 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,440 defeat by the Greeks and settled here due to its beauty and fruitfulness and this 159 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,520 is where they say the name Britain came from Brutus and things like this but 160 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,280 during his trials and tribulations of his epic journey before arriving they got 161 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:38,200 got us down a spoke to him in a dream inspiring his destiny to reach Albuy and 162 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,080 this is what she said to him in the dream beyond the realms of gold but 163 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,920 neither sunset lieth and island are burnt about by ocean guarded by ocean earth 164 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:55,080 the heart of giants so this is you know this is the classic story of the giants 165 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:03,960 battling with the Trojan as they arrived aware the origination of this Geoffrey 166 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,360 of Montmese history is but came from his whole other story people are really not 167 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,600 sure about this there were different versions there's a book written in the 168 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,640 ninth century by then in many years there was a monk from Wales and he was 169 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,600 writing about similar stories and collecting them at an earlier time but there 170 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,960 were different versions probably from druidic and other traditions that were 171 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:28,320 passed down through generations as well apparently they arrived on the south 172 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,280 coast of Trojan sailed up the river Dara and disembarked a top-ness he was 173 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,280 where Brutus stepped ashore on a sacred rock and pronounced here I am and here I 174 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,840 rest and this town shall be called top-ness especially the people there 175 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,480 really like that story but there's even a stone there not much left of it now 176 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,400 you can see that in the image which has been sort of broken and trimmed pretty 177 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:56,240 much to fit on the pathway but this is quite an intriguing story in itself 178 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,760 having like a moot stone or a ting site at this particular spot where laws and 179 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:06,520 other things were given out from but after scaring off the remaining giants and 180 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:11,760 launched the regular attacks on them the lamb was then divided up by the 181 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,280 Trojan Carinius and he was given the south-west area of Cornwall to rule 182 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,640 named after himself there was no indication that they were willing to learn from 183 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,280 the giants or respect their culture in any way and the Xanthony Roberts 184 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,760 points out got from a god represent at the first patriot in recorded British 185 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:36,440 history trying to protect the land and his people from invaders and he 186 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,920 kind of enjoyed strangely wrestling with the giants Carinius it's great 187 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,960 warrior he enjoyed wrestling with giants I mean who wouldn't I mean what a great 188 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:51,280 pastime and there were quite a few there was supposedly 24 left or there was 189 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,200 more according to some people but more than there was a particular repulsive one 190 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:01,760 called Gogma Gog who was said to be 12 feet tall however other chronicles say he 191 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:07,440 was 12 cubits tall and this was making between 18 and 20 feet tall and he 192 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,480 was described as being so strong that he could uproot an oak tree and shake it 193 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:17,600 like a hazel wand and and originally his name was go and my god it was spout 194 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,920 slightly differently only later it was refined to gogma Gogg which is probably 195 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:27,680 due to the the biblical tradition of this of these names Gog and Magog. Anyway 196 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,960 the ferocious giants did a secret attack on Carinius's camp and killed 20 of his 197 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:38,120 men this turned out to an all-out battle and it became a lot pretty much a 198 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,200 massacre and basically Gogma Gogg was the only one left at the end of this 199 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:48,480 battle after he decided Brutus wanted Carinius to battle with Gogma Gogg 200 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,760 and have one major wrestling match to decide at once and for all but you in 201 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:58,160 the title you fall match Gogma Gogg hugged him and broke three of his ribs which 202 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,840 is my half symbolic meaning he was so erased he hoisted Gogma Gogg up on his 203 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,760 shoulders with superhuman strength and ran to the cliff and threw him to his 204 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,960 death his body smashed into many pieces in sharp rocks and stained the water 205 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:17,840 red that was quote so discolored with his blood as to continue tinged with it 206 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,480 for a long time it's interesting in an area a demissier tackle stoke Fleming 207 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,320 just west of the mouth of the river dark a very slight churning of the 208 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:32,200 sea produces red waves which may be why this tradition suggests it was 209 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,400 giants blood in the water so we have this kind of classic tradition of the 210 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:41,080 founding of Britain basically with Trojans destroying the local giants who 211 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,400 are pretty much there there are still the British so that is I find that 212 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,800 absolutely fascinating there's also another interesting little story from this 213 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:55,880 area which I found in in a book I just quote this across the water at 214 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,760 tall points a small prominence we call a deadman's point an interesting 215 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,560 coincidence is that a giant of the ogre's childhood in variety you 216 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,000 formally enjoy the bleak reputation in the gore and havent district was 217 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,080 blood to death by a widely doctor at Dodman's point so this is really 218 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,840 intriguing so we have this connection with the whole Dodman story of Alfred 219 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,840 Watkins and his lay hunters things like this this is just a beautiful painting 220 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:28,840 for Eric Revilius of of from 1939's on display a while back at the Victorian 221 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:34,840 Albert Museum so this we're finding what we're going to find is more connections 222 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,800 between these giants and the way they interact with the landscape lay 223 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:43,800 lions, GMancy and the location of ancient sites especially in relation to one 224 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:49,280 another and they're often related to chalk hill figures obviously we have the 225 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,200 long man of Wilmington here who looks like he's carrying surveying sticks with 226 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:58,640 him and to other chalk hill physics figures that rep possibly rep 227 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,640 present Gog and Magog but the cliff that he was supposedly thrown from this is 228 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,080 there's different versions of this but this image I couldn't believe it when I saw 229 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,480 this this is actually a reconstruction and they were actually going to create this 230 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:16,240 about a decade ago on Plymouth home which was apparently the legendary place 231 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,880 where the wrestling occurred because it was recorded in the 1986 that giant 232 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,560 turf cup figure like a hill hill figure to pick the two figures we actually 233 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:31,000 evidence here and recorded in various various books and diaries and journals 234 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,320 I'm not going to go into all of those here but there's good evidence that there 235 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,360 was something there and it may have represented a mark the spot where this 236 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:42,640 was supposed to happen or at least it was created in honor of the legend of the 237 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:49,560 giants the giant patriots of ancient Britain other traditions they stayed they 238 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,160 was thrown off the cliff of a dover and where the plimmers does have the 239 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,520 strongest claim because an interesting occurrence happened where a giant jawbone 240 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,960 and teeth were discovered in the vicinity of where he was supposed to have been 241 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,840 thrown off the cliff at 19th century folklorious was told that when the 242 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,360 foundations of the citadel at plimmeth would be in dark gigantic jaws and teeth 243 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:15,600 would discover that what identified as the bones of Gogmagoge possibly similar 244 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,640 finds in earlier times gave rise to the story of a giant's death which 245 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,480 would by Jeffrey attached to the legend of Brutas because of the traditional 246 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,360 landing place in top-nest and so on this is from Jennifer Westwood's book 247 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:31,280 Alibien but there are other chalk hill figures that potentially represent Gogmagoge 248 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:36,840 this is actually on the Gogmagoge hills in Cambridge here just southeast of 249 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,560 Cambridge but also it's very close to Cherichington actually where I grew up my 250 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:46,440 school was on the Gogmagoge hills strangely enough I used to walk this area 251 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,640 every day on my way to school and this was this so-called chalk hill figures 252 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,680 potentially discovered in the 1950s by the very controversial daoza and 253 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:01,040 geomantical tom left bridge but there are many traditions on these hills 254 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:06,360 about Gogmagoge and about Giunions for example there's a search edition which 255 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:10,880 I quote was a very large cave which was inhabited by giant and his wife a 256 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,200 giant test of extraordinary statue whose names were Magoge and Magoge and 257 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:22,160 there's Michael Draetons polyobium from the late 1500s early 1600s one and 258 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,760 20th song they tell the story about how a giant fell in love with a nymph 259 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,440 but however hard he tried to woo her by tempting their represence and 260 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,280 changing his appearance he still rejected him and this is a whole load of 261 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,840 traditions and stories relating to Giunions on these Gogmagoge hills in Cambridge 262 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:45,560 which fascinates me because that's my kind of very original local area but 263 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:52,760 then as I dug into the records I found that there was from 1854 in the Cambridge 264 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:58,080 Chronicle which was the local newspaper at the time some remains of men who 265 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,160 reached a greater height than ordinary men of the present day were discovered 266 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:08,240 up on the Gogmagoge hills at cycle waterages so actual very tall skeletons 267 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,720 were actually discovered there probably all these legends were talking about you 268 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,680 know the people who once lived up there so I'm not going to dwell on this too 269 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,520 much but there's actually a sacred spring called Magoge's Grave or the Giants 270 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:27,880 Grave just at the base of the Gogmagoge hills and in the in the center of 271 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,480 this sort of pond where this spring comes up from is an island where it's said 272 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,760 that the giant Gogmagoge was actually buried there was even a strange stone there 273 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,800 with might you see my foot and it's got footprint carved in it just at the 274 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,040 pub and extort which is called the Rubin Hode so the Robin Hood and Little John 275 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,240 and one of the little John was supposed to be a giant but the Gogmagoge 276 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,680 tradition stretch all over Britain they don't end there there's a Gogmagoge trees 277 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,840 in the Glaston Bridge you can see those here with me some reason pulling a 278 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:04,440 silly pose which you'll why but then we have the Gogmagoge figures of that 279 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,480 parade it's actually next Saturday around town around all around London in the 280 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:16,160 Lord Earth in the Lord Mass parade and so the one of the stories states that 281 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:21,480 Gogmagoge, Gogmagoge it's diversions whether he's two people or one person 282 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:28,120 ended up in London in the Londonian and kind of created new Troy from there and 283 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:32,160 this is where the name London came from and they were the protectors of ancient 284 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:38,040 London and so I find that particularly interesting that London has became 285 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,840 connected with Gogmagoge and they're even you know not only are they 286 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:47,000 parade it around London at the front of the procession every November which 287 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,640 we're gonna I'm gonna come to next week actually and do some filming then but 288 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,320 they're actually on display other versions of them at the Gild Hall and you 289 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,440 can see those here and they'd be destroyed several times in various bombings 290 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,600 and things like this during the war they were burned down in the Great Fire in 291 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:10,880 1966 they were rebuilt they were around 14 feet tall but in 1741 in the 292 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,840 gigantic history of the two famous giants of Gild Hall it proclaimed a 293 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,240 Korean-ness in Gogmagoge were two brave giants who originally valued that 294 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,600 honour and exerted the whole strength and force and the defence of the liberty of 295 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:30,160 the country so the city of London became the place they protected and that 296 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,280 here we have versions but Korean-ness is a giant now and so all kind of gets mixed 297 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,680 up but these are some of the versions you see these are these are the ones 298 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:44,040 actually currently on display at the Gild Hall and you can kind of go and 299 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:50,280 see them for yourself pretty much and these are the ones that pretty much 300 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,880 parade it round the Lord Mayor's show but there are traditions and actual 301 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,760 skeletons connected with these traditions in London now just in this next 302 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:05,560 next page I'm just gonna let you browse that the yellow text is actual mention 303 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,080 of giants but these are all from the classic book that Andrew actually introduced 304 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,600 me to giants and dwarfs which is absolutely brilliant book and these are all 305 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,360 from that and they all give examples of giant bones and skeletons from 306 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:22,080 London so I'll let you browse that well I have a quick drink 307 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,880 if you've read that yeah if you read that I want to test you on it later 308 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,520 so it just gives you some examples of London not gonna like dwell on it too 309 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:43,680 much because we've got quite a bit to get through here but it's not just not just 310 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,840 London I mean all over Britain all over Europe in fact there were multiple 311 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,400 stories and legends of giants that just go on and on and on and they're often 312 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,000 which fascinates me because I'm a megallithamaniac connected with 313 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,040 megalithic and ancient sites and earthworks, dolmins and things like this 314 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:07,240 just one example stone hench the original for earliest recording name of stone 315 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,040 hench was the giant's dance it was not stone hench is the later sex 316 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,800 and name there's multiple giant giants graves giants he'll giant causeway and 317 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:21,640 island the sleeping giant giants wells giants beds many many many examples 318 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:28,040 that we find all over ancient Britain it gets kind of crazy when you start 319 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,720 looking into it especially when you get into whales that's where it gets 320 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,880 really shrank a strong tradition there there's lots of examples of 321 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,760 giantesses a giant's apron full where they drop stones from the apron as 322 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,080 they stride across the landscape in bedstrike lines this is the connection 323 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,480 with lay lines and alignment and the landscape even surveying as well we have 324 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:57,320 that too obviously all over Europe into the Bible lands it just goes on and on 325 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:02,560 and on and on there's Nordic traditions of the ice giants the Florian's the 326 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:08,200 fur bag of ancient island huged on Celtic tradition titans agrees the one 327 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,960 ice cyclops of home is tails further afield we have the thunderous raxia 328 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:19,120 raxia that the Indian ramiana the gigantes the Middle East and so on we have 329 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:23,160 clearly the Bible is probably the most one of the richest places with giant 330 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,160 stories there is and some of them are extremely strangely matter of fact we 331 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:34,200 have the cannolites the Nephilim the raffi and the Anakin king Og of Bashan 332 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,200 obviously David and Galaya and all these stories we have the stories of the 333 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:43,680 Exodus Moses heading up north the further he goes north and more giants he has 334 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,000 to battle with so that it just gets relentless than where you get into this and we're 335 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,280 not really going to look at too much out of Britain for the rest of this talk 336 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,760 I really want to focus on this particular land but it just put it in context 337 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,360 there was always an ancient and very strong tradition of giants in many many 338 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:05,720 different countries but it's actually all countries in fact around the world 339 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:11,960 Jack the giant killer anyone see in that movie about three of you excellent 340 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,960 well it's actually it's actually really quite fun movie if you like 341 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,600 ridiculous movies like I do but it's quite an interesting way they've done it 342 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,800 they kind of mixed Jack the giant killer with Jack and the Beanstalk which is 343 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,840 actually two very different stories Jack the giant killer was a super ancient 344 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,780 tradition the stretches moke is mainly down in the south western to Cornwall but 345 00:28:34,780 --> 00:28:39,440 it goes into Wales it goes in fact all over Britain in fact but then it became 346 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,880 kind of a softened up when it was published in Victorian when the printing 347 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,480 press was basically invented and they became fairy stories and children's 348 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:53,160 bedtime stories they had to tone down the ultraviolence and all the killing and 349 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,440 murder and actually make it into a more kind of ogreish fun story for kids and 350 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,440 this is where Jack and the Beanstalk actually came from but these stories 351 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:09,680 have left their mark across Britain the violent chronicles are really remarkably 352 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:16,360 violent it's quite scary when you actually read them but in early folklore he's 353 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:22,400 described as a Cornish or Celtic warrior carrying out typical heroic feats especially 354 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:28,040 obviously murdering giants in original and very cruel ways. One tail Jack is 355 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,520 challenged to an eating contest by a giant rival who thinks of himself as a 356 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,720 gastronome he believes he will easily win due to the gut-gantuan size of 357 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:41,480 his stomach however the hero Jack secretes a bag under his belly and drops the 358 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,800 food into that pretending he is eating it the giant is astonished and 359 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,480 realizes he's got some real competition here so he's so beneded the giant that 360 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,040 when Jack plunges a sword into his upper body and releases the contents tell 361 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,760 him that giant that is no ill effects on his digestion he's stabbed himself in 362 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,080 the kind of bag he's collecting the food in they had no problem with his 363 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,160 digestion to his health or his life stabbing himself was absolutely fine the 364 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,040 giant did the same thing to himself and committed suicide so according to 365 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:17,560 these stories they were a bit thick but there's this hundred stories I'm not 366 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,440 going to get into too many here but there's quite a few that are quite fun 367 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:26,160 actually it's kind of whether obviously the Fifi phone comes from and things 368 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:32,800 like this but you know we'll look at stories from some Michael's man which is 369 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,200 one of my favorites but these are really you know the giants were seen 370 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,280 before this they were seen as elemental figures like part of the mythic 371 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,240 landscape this is something Anthony Roberts really focused on and it was only 372 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:51,520 really later that they became kind of like enemies and there's some 373 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,520 traditions in whale sources they didn't they weren't necessarily enemies of 374 00:30:54,520 --> 00:31:00,280 humans they became enemies later when well Christian beliefs came in and this is 375 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:05,440 just a quote from Anthony Roberts I'd like to read to you which is a very nice 376 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,240 quote everyone is fascinated by the question whether race is of mighty beings 377 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,360 once wrong the earth shaping the landscape and building huge enclaves of earth 378 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:19,160 and stone which are still associated with their name such legends a universal 379 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,200 often they point to magical and metrological phenomena creved in the giants 380 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,520 with a definite of dangerous supernatural ability I just I think that's 381 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,960 a fantastic quote it kind of sums up what we're dealing with here you know where 382 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,040 this get back to killing giants the Jack with Giant Kill at one of the most 383 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:43,240 famous stories is based at Submicle's Mount where you've defeated the terrible 384 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,000 Giant Corborean by blowing the horn loudly in his ear when he was sleeping and the 385 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,160 Giant came rushing out but fell into a deep pit that Jack had prepared and 386 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,800 covered with twigs and straw and as he was in the pit he then hacked him to death 387 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:04,160 and cut his head off and it became like this classic story of Submicle's Mount 388 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:11,240 and one of the most famous Jack's Giant Kill at Stories but interestingly in 389 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:20,120 in the 1800s 1804 which was then reported again in 1955 in a newspaper and 390 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,600 made for skeleton was actually discovered in the crypt instant Michael's mail and 391 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:31,000 this is recorded this is actually in one of the books produced by the National 392 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,920 Trust and talks about a giant skeleton being discovered pulled out of this 393 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,040 cavern underneath the crypt in the main church and then rebear it in the 394 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,440 graveyard on Submicle's Mount matter of fact totally real they're not making it up 395 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:52,440 but it gave many gave rise to many strange ideas they in fact it could have been 396 00:32:52,440 --> 00:33:01,000 Jack the Giant Killer could have been involved in his demise but in this 397 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,920 recorded three different different accounts and there's good evidence that 398 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,560 this is a real story it's not it's not made up and on the left they've 399 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:13,040 got the account from 1955 but in court we have many accounts of giants and 400 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:18,320 legends of course they go on and on and on pretty much for every he's just a 401 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:25,360 couple of examples bones are disart articulated and scattered there are 402 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,200 much larger than those from the descendants of today this is one example 403 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,080 they're not going to go into detail I'm going to leave you just to browse these 404 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,600 these are all going to feature in the forthcoming book called the Giant of Stone 405 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,200 Angelation Britain that Jim and I are currently working on but I just wanted to 406 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,600 give you some examples to know that there's actual skeletons are being found often 407 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:49,600 related to these ancient sites here's another one from Trigon E. Cornwall a 10 408 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,480 foot tall skeleton or estimated to be 10 foot tall within it was the skeleton of a 409 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,720 man of gigantic size which on the admission of the air moulded into dust one 410 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,200 two two inches and a half long and thick in proportion remained whole the length 411 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:11,560 of the coffin was 11 feet three inches so this is from a publishing of book 412 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:17,560 relatively recently but recorded in 1761 and the annual register of Cornwall so 413 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:23,400 this is like smara fact in tiny local books journals town histories and things 414 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,200 like this the same ideas the same principles we find in North America 10 foot 415 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:34,200 giants are being unearthed even at men at all we have potential like that actually me is 416 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:41,880 not a giant but not too far from there it lands end in the year 1716 very large human 417 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,160 bones we're just found dispersed in the area much larger than those of the human 418 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:53,720 body which are therefore thought to be the vulgar to belong to the giants so it 419 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,040 goes on and on and on and on and here we have another you know there's even a very interesting book 420 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,040 the Reverend Robert Gaze it's controversial book that was written in 1666 but only published in 421 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:10,600 1725 Gaze is very strange ideas about what he called the king king egg giants or the 422 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,880 canjeeke giants and some are said and he believes there there was traditions of this name 423 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,440 all over some are said but also they could have been called into him the builders of Stonehenge 424 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,440 and I quote in the numerous transibaros with men bones in them extended from Stonehenge to 425 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,000 Amesbury however the giants were not anything to do with local folklore because some huge 426 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,440 bones of men fell amongst others in the said boroughs as a foreset are in the other places 427 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:42,200 near Stonehenge so it's matter of fact mentioning giant bones being found at their will we're 428 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:48,760 we're going to get into the area of Stonehenge very soon but this first account at the top 429 00:35:49,640 --> 00:36:01,400 this is written in 1810 a giant styrofoam a fully yard long was discovered in in Somerset 430 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:07,640 and they account below that is from giants and dwarfs and he talks about the canjeeke giants 431 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,440 people supposed to formally inhabit these paths the top of the skull was said to have been an 432 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:18,520 inch thick one of the teeth was three inches long above the roots three inches in the quarter round 433 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:24,280 and after the root was broken off it weighed three ounces and a half so that is quite a big tooth 434 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,200 other examples here it's going to run through some of these it's from the history and 435 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,160 antiquities of the county of Somerset volume three by John Colinson and Edmund Rack 436 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:44,520 and it just describes where's the part of him a large quantity of human bones are various sizes 437 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:51,240 with parvage or burn several teeth in it a prodigious size so yep more counts and this is from 438 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:59,640 Duster Castle where several foot skeleton was found dead obviously chained up to within this particular 439 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:06,280 castle and there's even a hauntings that have been recorded here as well but perhaps the most 440 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:15,960 famous account in Somerset is that from Glastobie Abbey this is quest range intriguing story but 441 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:22,120 in the late 1100s the I'm going to summarize it's very quickly the Glastobie marks and now it's 442 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,560 the incredible discovery of the bones and the skeleton and coffin of King Arthur potentially 443 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:34,040 green of it and there was a whole lot of mystical kind of dreams and advice given to them about 444 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:39,480 finding this but basically they dug down and found this lead cross which inscribed in the 445 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:45,480 inlet and was here like basically lies the burial the burial of King Arthur and so forth and further 446 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:51,160 below that several feet below that they found this huge potentially nine foot six skeleton 447 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:59,160 which was so large that fists could fit between the ice sockets and this is recorded and 448 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,800 this is almost a thousand years ago mind you but they believed it was a genuine find and it could 449 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:11,000 have been the way it was buried in a log kind of coffin was classic Celtic burial but they 450 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,800 proved that there was some kind of very important burial then there's still a sign up at Glastobie 451 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,880 Abbey and actually moved the body again but they do another place is to another part of Glastobie Abbey 452 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,200 but there's good there's we've got more information about that we're going to put in the book 453 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,920 but that is one of the most intriguing accounts we've got with such a famous sign 454 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:37,480 I started hand job obviously this is feature strongly in Jeffrey and Monmouth's history of 455 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,920 the Kings of Britain and the rocks are stone hands we've said to be healing rocks which giant 456 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,760 once bought from Africa from North Africa to Ireland for their healing properties and they were 457 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:55,560 set up at a site called Killer Roos no one exactly knows where this was and this is where the 458 00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:02,600 stone hands were originally constructed this is actually an image from a source of thunder 459 00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:08,600 but Anthony Roberts I believe this is an image by Mary Kane Vogue who was the Glastobie Zodiac lady 460 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,560 but according to the traditions or relios and brosius was a fifth century king set Merlin 461 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:25,080 and 15,000 knights to retrieve the rocks from Ireland to build a kind of in honor of himself 462 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:32,200 and they slew 7,000 Irish people they tried to move the rocks of ropes of force and they failed 463 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:39,000 so they had to cool Merlin over and somehow he used gears and skill and easily dismantle the stones 464 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,360 and sent them over to Britain just like that amazing so what are these gears he's talking about 465 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,640 is it some kind of levitation technology was it some kind of secret of the original metal 466 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:55,400 builders he'd recorded but this is caused all sorts of controversy about what they mean by gears 467 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,360 is it some kind of machinery it's some kind of way they would move the stones who knows 468 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,320 but they were brought over basically by Merlin and constructed and there's actually the same formation 469 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:12,360 at stone hands and this is actually the earliest depiction of stone hands ever recorded this was 470 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,400 pretty much based on the history of the Kings of Brune but it was in a book by Robert Wase 471 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:25,400 from a manuscript by Romandy Brune in the arts from the 1400s and it shows a giant lifting one of 472 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:31,400 the link tools into place at the giant's start or stone hands with what looks like Merlin on the 473 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:38,040 bottom left there with potentially king and brosius directing him so this kind of you know 474 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:43,720 and trees me that the earliest name of stone hands is the giant's start and the earliest depiction 475 00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:48,680 of stone hands as a giant moving the stones into place and the fact that they came from North Africa 476 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:54,040 has raised quite a few questions or something Robin Heath or Robert Temple myself and others have 477 00:40:54,040 --> 00:41:00,040 been looking at and there's actually from in North Africa in Libya there's sites that look just 478 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:07,160 like stone hands remarkably these are all near tripply and these are classic kind of stone hands 479 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:13,160 type trillathons often in circular formations this classic stone circles out there as well 480 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,120 which we feature in the stone circles book and very sophisticated more is in tenant joints 481 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,040 stonework and you can see on the top right there so we've got the same principles and the same 482 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:27,800 technology evident in North Africa in Libya so we have to kind of take that into consideration 483 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,680 that some of the words of Jeffrey and Monmouth might have some truth in it and it might be remembering 484 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:39,320 actual events that took place well is this isn't an actual event the one on the right there 485 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,520 this is actually from the classic children's book called Giants which I own because it's brilliant 486 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,120 and there's just a story which I thought went quite well with this that a huge skull was recorded 487 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:57,080 by John Aubrey in I believe in the 15 or 1600s and it was on display a local church Maria Wheatley's 488 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:02,360 got the info on this and it was supposed to be of some of the 1889 feet tall but all around the 489 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:08,440 mountains we find at Stonehenge this is actually the bullford camp mounts quite far east of Stonehenge 490 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:16,040 but some very large bones were discovered here this is something the Simon Banton mentioned 491 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,760 in a gap in the information about and this is the archaeological report said the remains of three 492 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:26,920 skeletons were found around 1950 one in the sitting position and one of great size with a low brow 493 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,560 the bones were much mixed up and this is from the archaeological magazine of Wilshire 494 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,840 you know volume such and such but this just shows you the evenly archaeological excavation 495 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:42,840 through the 1950s we were uncovering bones of gigantic size and a great size of the low brows 496 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:48,040 quite interesting because it describes almost the type of giants we're dealing with in North America 497 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,240 also in Bush in the Bush Barrow with a famous lot of engineers discovered 498 00:42:53,720 --> 00:43:00,280 it was excavated in 1808 by William Cunnington as a Richard Colt Hall and on read this is 499 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,040 the quote on reach in the floor of the Barrow we discovered the skeleton of a stout and tool 500 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:09,240 manned lion from south to north but don't know what the exact dimensions are but it just suggests 501 00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:15,560 that they were quite whoever these chief dunes or priests or whatever were buried here they were 502 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:22,360 of tool stature we have this one as well this is slightly taller recorded in 1802 503 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,560 in the clayland in his collect it the other quotes the respectable authority of his friends 504 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,440 Thomas Elliott has recorded in that himself had seen at some place near Solsbury a skeleton 505 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:39,880 which measured 14 feet 10 inches in length so this is a little bit taller than one might imagine 506 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,800 we looked into this we've looked at various accounts and the books that are all mentioned 507 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:52,760 and indeed this is the reports pretty much backed up there were different variations from different 508 00:43:52,760 --> 00:44:00,440 witnesses ranging from 12 feet to 13 foot ten inches to 14 foot ten inches so which one of these is 509 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,720 we don't know but one of the accounts suggests this was one of the canjig giants which we find in 510 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,040 summer set so where the skeleton is now would be really interesting to see that 511 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,480 here we have more accounts this is found actually in Solsbury you know I've got 512 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,800 several Solsbury you know only a few miles from stone handshoes part of the stone handsland 513 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:27,080 skeleton there's actually a mound in Solsbury called the giants grave in 1719 514 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:37,000 skeleton that was found that was over nine feet tall and there's a second account we found as 515 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:44,200 well which again sort of confirms that this one says yeah nine or so nine feet high at the 516 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,840 one before that was nine foot four but Solsbury is an interesting place when it comes to giants because 517 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:55,560 we have traditions there which may have stemmed from these discoveries this jab being 518 00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:01,400 giant and hoppin up who was like the so hobby horse thing were paraded round Solsbury for many 519 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:07,080 many years a various times a year mainly I think around some george is they sometimes on the 520 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:13,240 summer solsdis and this was the guild of merchant tailers who were kind of part of this tradition 521 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:19,720 and over the centuries he kind of they kind of changed his appearance but he's like a 12 foot tall 522 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:25,320 giant really another date they would do it almost the sun Johns the Baptist down the 24th of 523 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:31,640 June or mid summer but nowadays it's always on suggest day I actually went down there on suggest day 524 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,360 and now they don't parade the giant around anymore I was devastated they stopped about six years 525 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:42,520 ago because it's so moderate and they would just fall apart if they tried to walk it around town 526 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:49,640 but it's actually on display in the museum behind me is the one that is the giant this is 527 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,920 the gentleman this has been going on for several hundred years now as me and Jay Jay just kind of 528 00:45:54,920 --> 00:46:02,600 self-hearing it up at the museum there but this one is 25 feet tall so they made different ones 529 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:11,000 over the years but in 1784 for some reason he became known as a Christopher now this is 530 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,600 Arthur well why would they he's just a Christian thing and they wanted to name him after a Christian 531 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:22,360 saint I kind of looked into this and we know that for people who are aware of this this 532 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:32,120 Saint Christopher was a canaanite giant from the Bible lands who apparently is you know there's 533 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,600 different names for him obviously but he was like the saint of travel and to be in safe on your 534 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:44,200 travels as images of him carry in the baby Jesus but this is very interesting because he was a canaanite 535 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:50,440 he was supposed to be five cubits or seven and a half feet tall with a fearsome face and while 536 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,800 serving the king of canon you felt he must serve the greatest king there was I you know Jesus 537 00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:01,800 God all that kind of thing and then he came over to this part of the world but he's always 538 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:09,720 represented as a gigantic stature some people say he was 12 cubits tall again like God my God 539 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:16,200 which is you know 18 or more feet tall and he was said to be the dog headed cannibal 540 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,440 and that was another name given to him but there's there was a beaver mix up because 541 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:27,240 there was confusion because canonite they thought was a canaanite and so he became this dog headed 542 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:34,760 saint basically that was probably a mistake and he was actually referred to it just because he was 543 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:42,680 canonite they maybe didn't understand that but why is there an extremely tall canonite cannibalistic 544 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,880 giant being paraded around solsbury I think that's a question we need to ask someone 545 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,760 but he just shows you that you know these traditions are still still strong and they still 546 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,560 review it they they want to parade him around sols we saw a talk to the guys who ran there at the event 547 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:05,560 and they said they just can't because of the moths they just eat in a way so the fact that a 12 foot tall 548 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:12,040 cannibalistic giant is defeated by moths is quite interesting probably the first and then we have 549 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,680 another one here just this is an interesting account because it comes back to the sowers and thunder 550 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:22,440 which we're looking at in a moment but we first spotted this gym and I we were doing our general research 551 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:27,960 over the years but skeleton of large dimensions in a remarkable barrel on the verge of wilts 552 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:33,000 here by the road leading from solsbury to planford so I actually decided to drive down the road 553 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:39,560 from solsbury to planford and I found these mounds and these are the west woody eight mounds 554 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,960 of actually in doorstep and I got some aerial shots of them but I'm a beautiful they look like 555 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:54,360 kind of droplets of water in the landscape there's a few more than this in the distance because 556 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,560 they've been kind of plowed out unfortunately and I've got a slide or two missing here was good 557 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:06,920 I don't know there we go so this was quite an interesting story associated with this 558 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,360 as the mound was opened this is called in the gentleman's magazine Hannah Storic Chronicle 559 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,360 I'm not sure exactly which year to have all the data here but the opening of the barrel was 560 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:28,600 attended by several people and they wrote that during the tremendous storm of thunder and lightning 561 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:37,320 was opened up when they were excavating this mound and the only place of refuge from this massive storm 562 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,720 disturbing the giant's grave was to actually hide within the barrel itself 563 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:47,560 and they'd been excavated to a considerable depth the line of flashed upon our spades and iron instruments 564 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:53,160 they wrote a large flints poured down upon us from the summit of the barrel so abundantly 565 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:58,840 so forcibly that we were obliged to quit a hiding place and get out of there basically 566 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,160 and they wrote this huge power about I'm not going to do that now but we're going to feature 567 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:08,440 that in the book obviously about this whole incident and how they realized they were playing with 568 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:15,320 supernatural forces and this is exactly the same thing that Anthony Roberts book is based upon 569 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:22,680 so as a thunder the idea that the giants graves went disturbed you have this deluge in rain 570 00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:25,880 and thunderstorms that try and stop you doing that 571 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,120 not a good example it's going to flick through a few here this from a poor smithing glund 572 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:39,480 a man over seven feet tall potentially three thousand four thousand years ago was 573 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,800 dug up by a lieutenant colonel and it actually fits in with some of the traditions from the areas 574 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,640 we have around in ones like this this is a really interesting one because I was here in 2008 575 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:57,080 a lundy island out in the Bristol channel where in the kind of sea with Robin Hath on the layhunter 576 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,560 on a little layhunter's mood trip and we actually discovered a stone circle while we were there you see 577 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:07,640 that on the left called the lundy egg which is the classic Alexard Tom shaped circle it was 578 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:12,760 surveyed by Robin Hath with the help of me and several others from the Antiquarium society this 579 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:18,600 was Stuart Mason and the layhunter's and so that was who we published but the interesting thing 580 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:24,920 about this is that it's on the lundation triangle this great landscape Pythagorean 51213 triangle 581 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,520 which links stone hands the blue stone site obviously but some of the stones from stone hands 582 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:38,120 came from analyndy island 10 minutes yeah and onalyndy island some inscribed stones were found 583 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:47,640 these are some of the burials here and so 8 foot 5 inch skeletons were uncovered actually on the 584 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:53,720 island this is actually an image of one of the burials a reconstruction of the drawing of the grave 585 00:51:53,720 --> 00:52:00,200 you can notice the whole stone there Andrew is quite interesting we have another account here again 586 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:06,040 another discovery and the same island in the same place with an 8 foot skeleton and it could be 8 foot 587 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:12,040 two they suggest and the shin bone of the skeleton it reached from this foot halfway up his thigh 588 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:17,160 while the giant's jawbone covered not only his chin but his beard as well we have these powerful 589 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:23,640 jaws we find obviously all over North America which we feature heavily in our book over how segment about 590 00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:31,800 the giant jaw bones but at the other point of the lundation triangle in Wales, 591 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:39,320 Pacelliaia and the rest of Wales really we have obviously the giants of Wales brilliant book by 592 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:48,600 Chris Grumes and absolutely classic and the amount of accounts from Wales is you get in 593 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:53,320 silly now actually bought this book because me 80 pounds is one of the most expensive books I've 594 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:58,520 ever bought and then I had this very strange thing happened 10 pages disappear from the book 595 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:05,000 and I never had no idea what happened to them unless it was Eugene so I've no idea and then I 596 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,440 looked through several of my other books when I was trying to write my book about them 597 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:13,240 when I write this book about the giant and pages torn out of them of specific pages that I was 598 00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:17,480 trying to research about giants and I thought what the hell is going on here someone would be breaking 599 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:23,560 into my house and sabotaging my giant research it was very odd kind of like fairy realm stuff 600 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,640 but there was a wave of giant horigy happening in the 1500s around Britain this is when the 601 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:35,240 Patagonian giants were being discovered or witnessed when the North American giants were first 602 00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:41,000 I witnessed accounts of those were happening in Florida and it takes us another places and it was 603 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:50,600 this gentleman here who lived in 1500s he wrote a book in response to attempts to dismiss and 604 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,720 refuge every moment history of the kings of Britain especially the giants associated with that book 605 00:53:55,720 --> 00:54:00,440 and so he wrote this fantastic piece which is the whole thing is published and reprinted in the 606 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,400 giants of Wales but which is written in the 1980s by Chris Grims and it is quite remarkable he was 607 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:11,480 at the scholar basically and he was so convinced by he gave loads of actual accounts of giant 608 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,400 bones and skeletons that were discovered in Wales and some of the strong traditions there 609 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,560 one example is this one this is actually from we're going to probably see this tomorrow 610 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:27,000 the mould cape which was actually in the British Museum was supposedly dug out from a grave of a 611 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:36,120 giant and the some bones and a skull above the ordinary structure what un-earthed but this book 612 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:41,960 is just I can't emphasize this it's now print basically so but it gives you really good 613 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:46,840 examples of the traditions that the giants ate from full King Arthur was deemed as a giant 614 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:53,080 lots of cannibals obviously Samson was seen as a giant there was lots of stories about triads 615 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:58,760 and three brothers and things like this stone throwing in straight lines across the landscape 616 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,600 so I'm not going to be able to get into that all now but we're going to do a really strong piece 617 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:09,400 about that in our book because it's one of the most important aspects the traditions there are so strong 618 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,840 and they're so rich that it really has to be taken seriously and this is why Chris Grims wrote 619 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:20,200 this academic work on this subject not just of the bones and skeletons but of the stories and 620 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:27,400 that were still alive well right up to relatively recently even the great all minds in land 621 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:34,840 did know up in the very northern part of Wales they back to at least three thousand five hundred years ago 622 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,440 like a big cazzam now cut into the ground where they were mining copper but there's this huge 623 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,400 kind of hammer hazard attached to rope which is out of the range of what should be possible 624 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:52,920 64 pounds or 30 your so kilos and they were mining with these with these particular kind of rope 625 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:59,080 hammers and this is just outrageous you can't do that you know you can't possibly swing that if you're 626 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:04,840 a normal size human being unless you're kind of super super strong and so this is being so 627 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:10,120 analyzed and compare and it'd be equivalent to trying to use this hammer to put in a nail or something 628 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:19,640 quite remarkable when you when you sort of look at this so I'm just going to jump through a few slides 629 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:27,640 here oh what we go here so yeah all over Britain we did with there's just so many accounts 630 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:34,200 oh my god I've got so many here still this is an interesting one not too far from here this is 631 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:42,200 actually the ruts to monolith in Yorkshire but but the main reason I went up this way was to go to 632 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:49,400 first in museum with this is the only that I know of surviving ancient relatively ancient skeleton 633 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:56,760 in Britain this is seven foot tall what's left of it anyway and it was found in 1994 when it 634 00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:02,040 Castle Garth the bones of a gentleman who was seven feet tall and there was a woman over six feet tall 635 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:07,080 also discovered but they believe it was a sex and cemetery although there is debate about this because 636 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:13,640 there are other stories that there was a potentially an iron age of Bronze Age site there as well 637 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,160 this me looking really really happy that I've actually found some giant bones in England look 638 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:26,120 at me super happy and so this is just interesting that we do find that this is the case 639 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:34,760 with these giants so this is actually excuse me so let me get this current 640 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,680 is that playing can you see anything there is that play oh yeah you got to have that so this is 641 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,640 actually a clip I haven't got the sound for this but this is actually a clip from a TV show about 642 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:54,600 Saxons I think you recognize the guy from the BBC some broadcast is son or something but this 643 00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:02,760 this chap he's talking to, matter of fact on the BBC one describes a 9 foot 4 in skeleton 644 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:09,800 that was found at this particular site in Darbyshire place called Reptinent 1854 they think it was 645 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,480 possibly over the Bionless clearly he's got bones because they found a bones 646 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:22,120 um 865 AD potentially and he was over 9 feet tall again there's debate about the age of this because 647 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:27,160 as earlier sites have been found in the area but um I wish I had the south of this because it just 648 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:33,480 basically he's just repeating it's 9 foot 4 and the so where that bone is we really don't know 649 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:41,480 there's 7 foot skeletons we've found in Northambleland in island we have numerous accounts 650 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:49,560 from Slago here even from the mountains that were around 4 knocks where some 7 foot skeletons 651 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:55,480 were found link linking now with the boin valley mega lithic sites we had the classic Irish 652 00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:01,880 giant the 12 foot 2 inch giant which was um probably the largest ever found in Britain that's 653 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:07,240 actually relatively authentic at will that it could be a hoax it was on display and doubling the 654 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:13,640 Liverpool and Manchester in the late 1800s and then mysteriously disappeared we have more 655 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:23,560 with a story about it here we have a 10 foot tall giant in county louth and so on and so forth 656 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,160 this one we actually feature in the Stoosecules book this is a wonderful 657 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:35,720 Stoosecule will be a clean quick and in Scotland and within it a man of uncommon size was unearthed 658 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:44,760 we also have in north west Scotland these blocks and this is another account where we have 659 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:50,760 the classic sores of thunder problem happening when they're obliterating or excavating the site 660 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,800 all of a sudden they came with thunder and lightning wind and delusion ran the like of which 661 00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00:04,680 no man had ever saw and this was um Britain out in 1893 and the bones were found to be quite 662 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:09,400 fresh and of an extraordinary size no person ever saw anything to prepare them before and it 663 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:14,600 said no person did a tall credit or even imagine the size of them but those who saw them so we got 664 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:19,080 a pretty interesting account there also in Scotland I was up at I think Edinburgh Museum 665 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:26,760 and I found this sort of small knife which absolutely blew me away when I saw this this is like 666 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:32,200 what a 10 foot sword and there were several other ones in various other museums I can 667 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:41,400 Scotland as well which really did catch my attention but um it's obviously many more accounts 668 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:48,200 I'm going to have to skip through pretty much but if we look at there are some very very I've 669 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:52,280 got I'm going to have to just go on for a few more minutes I guess I'll okay Nigel cut into the 670 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,880 break a little bit just a few minutes I want to just there's a couple of things I'll just have to 671 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:02,600 put in here now the origins of these giants is one of the mysteries this is something that 672 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:09,000 Andrew's going to look at much later in the day with the Denisovans and and how you know they were quite 673 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:14,440 powerful robust people according to what's being discovered so far but before them was uh the 674 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:22,200 homo hide of a genesis, hide of a genesis which were very interesting group of people who were routinely 675 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:27,080 found in South Africa in Europe and they were over seven feet tall with some examples being 676 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:34,680 much much taller and these potentially uh may have ended up in Britain many many hundreds of 677 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:40,600 thousands of years ago and also we have the Cromagnan you know the classic kind of idea that about 678 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:47,800 40 or so thousand years ago in Europe modern humans kind of arrived in this area no one knows really 679 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:52,520 where from but they're like the classic traits we see now but even some of those in the earlier 680 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:58,920 counts were extremely tall over six feet tall accounts of over seven foot tall in different parts 681 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:07,000 of Europe and we see that you know some of the cases here this is an upper jaw bone which is 682 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:15,800 41,000 years old which has found the Kent's Cavern not far from Torquille and it was radio carbon 683 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:23,080 day to like 35 to 40,000 years old um another people say it's even earlier so you know just show 684 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:27,160 you that there's extremely ancient modern type humans at this time obviously when we get into 685 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:33,000 Michael Cromos lecture we're going to find that in fact like I go back millions of years um so it's 686 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:38,600 really quite strange the more you get into this we even have modern type skeletons that most definitely 687 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:47,000 go back 330,000 years um even 400,000 years in the upswitch and you can see the modern type 688 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:52,360 skull on the left there at Gally Hill near London obviously was discovered in 1888 and the reason I'm 689 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:57,400 saying this is because many of these skeletons that are being unearthed in prehistoric areas 690 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:02,680 I have got a modern human look about them like a Cromagnan look but some of them are particularly 691 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:09,880 much much older and this is potentially the origins of the giants of ancient Britain we have 692 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:16,280 this jaw as well this is the Ipswich jaw bone which is featured in Michael Cromos book found 693 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:23,960 in 1855 again this is the problem with this one is that it could be 2.5 million years old which is 694 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:30,680 utterly bizarre and doesn't really fit with stuff but when we we'll see later how old things 695 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:35,960 really get I think one of the most fascinating aspects of this is some of these super ancient 696 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:43,720 artifacts that I've been found this is a photo actually taken by Scott Scottie I think he's here somewhere 697 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:52,440 which is 300,000 years old and is way too big to be anything you know a hand axe you use 698 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:57,960 one hand apparently but look at the size of this remember photo from my friend James as well 699 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:03,640 the bottom left there but there's many different artifacts helping found there extremely ancient 700 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:10,200 and extremely large in ancient Britain so it gets weird and weirder the more you look into this 701 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:17,160 then we have these ridiculous footprints which are 850,000 years old in Norfolk 702 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:25,320 which size 10 adult males modern human so how does that fit in and one of the researchers 703 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:33,880 who did the work on this a place called Happysburg believes these were in fact related and 704 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:40,360 quite possibly homo-hidal burg insists who were the giants from Africa and Europe so we are 705 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:46,680 finding started to find small connections going back from a very early stage and what's really 706 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:51,560 interesting is that they were no to be cannibals which is the classic tradition we find in many 707 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:58,200 of the stories in ancient Britain and obviously in North America and other parts of the world 708 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:05,080 so I think we'll just leave it there but the connections with North America we're looking into 709 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:12,120 Jim and I have found lot of connections between Britain and North America in the skull shapes and 710 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:19,640 sizes the earth works and some of the rock carvings like JJ's being researched like Winna Mucker 711 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:26,440 how closely they're related to places like La Cruz and you know really you can't take it all too 712 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:31,000 seriously because we are talking about giants after all so thanks very much for listening 713 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,640 you