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The sex crimes of millionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein are reported.

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I was unaware that I was going to be alone with him. I thought I was going to die.

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More than a hundred vulnerable teenagers and young women trapped in his depraved web.

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He started touching himself.

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Tonight, the Epstein Files, the latest on who knew what in the biggest sex trafficking ring in history.

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His elite circle of the wealthy and powerful on notice as thousands of damning new court documents are unsealed.

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They all contain the names of people associated with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Prince Andrew and the former president Bill Clinton have been named.

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More are expected to come out.

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In the last few weeks, they've linked Epstein to some very famous names and exposed some very sordid details.

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There are videos that exist.

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We've been investigating this scandal since Jeffrey Epstein's death in 2019.

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This is where Jeffrey Epstein served his sentence.

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That he can still shock is extraordinary.

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I won't stop fighting.

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I will never be silenced.

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As you'll see, this monster's tentacles continue to reach from beyond the grave.

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Refusing to answer lawyers on the grounds he might incriminate himself,

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Epstein thought his own silence would protect him forever.

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With his death by suicide in 2019 and the jailing of his former lover and right-hand woman,

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Ghislaine Maxwell, two years ago, Epstein's associates may well have thought the scandal was over.

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But after a decade of legal wrangling, more than 150 people have been publicly identified,

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linked to Epstein and his sex trafficking network.

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He was a brilliant manipulator, not just of vulnerable girls and women.

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He was a brilliant manipulator of powerful men.

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A really heinous crime on an absolutely massive scale that was allowed to continue and continue and continue.

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On my own island, I can feel the thoughts I want to think.

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I can do the work I want to do.

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I can feel the score as I see fit.

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Jeffrey Epstein's vast wealth gave him access to whatever he wanted.

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As we now know, the globe-trotting multi-millionaire created a network where young women were supplied to him wherever he went.

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I realise what I am.

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I'm very comfortable in my own scale.

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What I'm really free to do is I'm free to follow my own personality.

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And with his own plain and plush properties all over the world, he felt free to abuse in the privacy of his various homes.

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This is New York, this is Palm Beach, this is California, this is Paris, this is London.

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This is wherever Epstein was touching down.

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He needed to have girls on constant call.

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In every single state or every place that he goes to, he's already got people lined up and makers making that happen.

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None of this would ever have seen the light of day if it wasn't for Virginia Dufresne.

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Her allegations of sexual abuse against Epstein, Maxwell and famously Prince Andrew have fascinated and repulsed the world.

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In 2015, Virginia sued Maxwell for defamation.

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These latest documents are, in the main, sworn statements collected for that case.

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It's hard.

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It's really hard being back here.

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We met Virginia five years ago when she bravely returned for the first time to the Epstein mansion in Manhattan.

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I was abused by people that I can't even mention here.

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There's a lot of scars hidden behind those walls.

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It should be ripped down.

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It should be burned to the ground.

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Some of my worst memories are from this place.

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I continue to be shocked by just how awful this story is.

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The damage that was done to these women is incredibly hard to even express.

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This has been completely life-altering for them.

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It's incredibly unfair that this was allowed to happen with impunity for so long.

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Lucia Osborne Crowley is a journalist and author who has long covered the Epstein case.

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She believes the significance of the new Epstein files can't be overstated.

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It's really important that we understand the difference between having these allegations swirl around

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and seeing that people were willing to swear to them under penalty of perjury.

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It's an incredibly hard thing to do, and they were all willing to do it and to swear to the truth of it.

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Lucia also had a front row seat when victims testified against Epstein's co-conspirator,

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Glenn Maxwell, when she was convicted for sex trafficking in 2022.

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A lot of what Jeffrey Epstein got away with, he wouldn't have been able to do

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without her helping to recruit, groom and entice underage girls.

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But she wasn't just the organiser, was she? She was also an abuser herself.

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Yes. So we also heard at trial from multiple victims that she was in the room when the abuse was happening

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and that she engaged in the abuse herself.

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But the documents released by the court put the spotlight on the role played by others in Jeffrey Epstein's inner sanctum.

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The most controversial revelation comes from emails sent by Sarah Ransom,

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who was abused and trafficked by Epstein.

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Those emails claim she has seen video recordings made by Epstein of an unnamed friend

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having sex with Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and Richard Branson.

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All three men vehemently refute the allegation.

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And in the past, even Sarah has denied the existence of the tapes.

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But just two weeks ago, she stood by her original claim in a Zoom call with Good Morning Britain.

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It's no secret that everything was recorded.

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I've also seen recordings in his office.

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There are videos that exist.

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The people that know they exist, I'm sure, are very frightened of them being released.

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Fear may also explain the resounding silence from others named in this recent mass release of documents.

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According to thousands of pages of sworn statements by women abused by Epstein,

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the men now in the headlines are potential witnesses.

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They place them at the locations where the abuse commonly took place.

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The vast majority, including all the names that we're hearing about the most,

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there are no allegations of criminality.

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They are just listed as potential witnesses.

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If these people are not being accused of any wrongdoing, why have they been named?

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The question is what they saw, who they met, what questions they asked themselves

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about why girls of that age would be in any of the Epstein homes.

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And if they didn't ask themselves questions about that,

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why didn't they ask themselves questions about that?

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The documents also shed light on the alleged dark motivation of Epstein's sex trafficking

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to get dirt on some of the world's most influential people.

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There is, for the first time, the idea that he was quizzing the girls he sent to famous people

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for details of what happened, for blackmail purposes.

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Nat has always been the suspicion that this man had cameras everywhere,

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that he kept blackmail tapes.

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That was his leverage.

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So I heard about Jeffrey Epstein sort of on the social Upper East Side grapevine in New York

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for a couple of years around the end of the 1990s and early 2000s.

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You know, he was a figure of mystery in that all people really knew about him

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was he had kind of out of nowhere, known to be unconventional.

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People thought he was very good looking.

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And the only thing that people really knew about him,

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his sort of connector to the outside world, was somebody I knew.

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It was Ghislaine Maxwell.

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With her link to English socialite Ghislaine Maxwell,

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Vicky Ward was the ideal journalist to profile Jeffrey Epstein.

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Her task in 2002 was to investigate the man behind the $500 million fortune.

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My then boss at Vanity Fair magazine, Graydon Carter, phoned me up and said,

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you know, I've been hearing about this guy for years.

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Nobody knows who he is, where he got his money from, what his deal is.

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And that was how it all began.

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But what started as a business story quickly turned sinister.

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He liked to have parties with young women,

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but given that he was a very wealthy, at the time, you know,

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good-looking bachelor in his 50s,

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that didn't seem in itself, on the surface, so peculiar.

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But then I met this woman, Maria Farmer,

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and she told me that she had worked for Jeffrey Epstein.

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No one immediately recognised how significant Maria Farmer would become

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in the Epstein story.

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Certainly not the authorities, when in 1996,

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she was the very first to report Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to the FBI.

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Ghislaine came in to get me one evening.

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Ghislaine escorts me to Jeffrey's room,

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and he's lying there, and he goes,

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well, here, sit down, you know?

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And so right next to him, and then Ghislaine sits on the other side,

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and they began assaulting me.

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But really, while I was lying there the whole time,

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I'm thinking, my sister's been around these people.

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My sister was 16.

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She's been around them alone.

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Maria's fears were well-based.

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Her younger sister, Annie, had also been abused by the pedophile pair.

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And it was the worst thing that's ever happened to me.

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But in a pattern that would be set in the decades ahead,

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Maria's complaint of sexual abuse against her and Annie to police was ignored.

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They just kept it all quiet, put it in the bottom drawer.

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And they were so dismissive that I just felt daunted, and I stopped.

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For more than 25 years, Maria Farmer has been filling her canvas

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with the Epstein story, a tale of horror that began in 1995,

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when, as a gifted student at the New York Academy of Art,

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she met Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell.

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Epstein gave her a job to buy art for his New York mansion.

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As well, she became an unwitting witness

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to a steady stream of teenagers and young women

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through Epstein's front door.

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And shockingly, she had direct evidence

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of Maxwell scouting girls for the insatiable millionaire.

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What did you witness?

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So, several times, I was in the car with her,

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and she would ask the driver to stop the car.

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And she'd dash across to the school or the park

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or wherever she was going,

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and she would, like, write down her phone number

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for a child, a young girl.

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And then I'd see that child at the house,

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and she'd say, they're auditioning.

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You know, I found a model in the park.

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And I thought it was really strange

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because I did see a couple girls in braces,

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and I've never seen a model with braces.

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Do you reflect on how different life would be

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for so many women today

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if the FBI had investigated your complaints in 1996?

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They... Yeah.

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I think about it all the time.

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I do.

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And it hurts a lot.

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And I never had children because of it,

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because I didn't feel like they would be safe.

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It would be another six years

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before the Farmer sisters would again contemplate

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speaking openly about their experiences with Jeffrey Epstein.

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When they met with journalist Vicky Ward in 2002,

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Maria and Annie were nervous.

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Did it take a lot for you to convince them

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to open up to you, to talk on the public record?

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It did.

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There's no question.

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They were very afraid of these very powerful people.

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And I felt that at least Vanity Fair magazine

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was also powerful.

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By us publishing their allegations,

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that would afford them protection.

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And so I think that we all proceeded

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under that premise.

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And unfortunately, that premise got exploded

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in the worst possible way.

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What blew it up?

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What happened?

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Well, what happened,

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as this piece was going forward

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and I had to finally put all the allegations,

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both of the business staff

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and the farmers' allegations to Jeffrey and Ghislaine,

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they, in their different ways,

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went completely berserk.

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Epstein was instantly menacing,

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a man prepared to bully and intimidate

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to save himself.

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as a game,

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a really dark,

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twisted game.

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He even said to me at the beginning,

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OK, let's play chess.

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I'll be black, you be white,

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you get the first move.

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from there,

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it descended into a sort of horrific game

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of cat and mouse.

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He would phone me every day.

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that if he didn't like

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what I was going to write,

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he was going to have his witch doctor

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place a curse

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on my unborn children

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and that that was off the record.

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he was going to sue me

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and ruin me

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personally.

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frightened of what this man

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could do.

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the threats he was making against you

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were quite preposterous,

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you took him seriously.

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Like, you were genuinely frightened.

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at the end of all of this,

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at the end of months

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of digging,

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meeting the farmer sisters,

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there was still this question mark.

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Who is this guy?

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But it only got worse

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when Epstein made a personal visit

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to Vicky's boss at the time,

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the editor-in-chief of Vanity Fair.

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Epstein got the result he demanded.

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Maria and Annie Farmer's allegations

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were cut from the story

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that went to print

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in late 2002.

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So as the journalist

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who had uncovered

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these allegations

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and convinced

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these sisters

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to go public,

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what was your reaction

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to see that

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your work was not

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in your article?

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Well, I remember

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bursting into

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tears

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and saying to

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the person

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who was directly

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my editor,

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we've exposed

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these poor women.

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I mean,

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this is unconscionable.

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Was it a reflection

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also of an abuse of power?

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I mean,

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if Jeffrey Epstein

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walked into the editor-in-chief's office,

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he wasn't there to say hello.

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Of course.

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2002 was an era

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in which

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Jeffrey Epstein

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and other predators,

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you know,

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Harvey Weinstein,

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were running the world.

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And women everywhere

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weren't speaking up.

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The idea that

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two men would have a meeting

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after which

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00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,340
these allegations

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would get pulled,

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I mean,

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you know,

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in the world we live in now,

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that is,

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00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,120
you know,

302
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,040
it's monstrous.

303
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Vicky's boss,

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00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,000
Graydon Carter,

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00:18:33,540 --> 00:18:34,840
denies being influenced

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00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,040
or intimidated

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00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,820
by Epstein.

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But either way,

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the Vanity Fair story

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didn't go anywhere near

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exposing

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the depths

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of Epstein's

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depravity.

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I only got

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00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:47,560
the very,

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very,

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very tip

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of that iceberg.

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I didn't get

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to the den of iniquity

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that we now

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00:18:53,740 --> 00:18:55,120
know

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was really going on

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00:18:56,900 --> 00:18:58,280
behind Jeffrey Epstein's

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00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,340
closed walls

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in the mansion

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00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,860
in New York

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and on his island

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and in Palm Beach.

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Around that mansion,

332
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,040
that's where

333
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,300
this part

334
00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:15,520
of the sex trafficking

335
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,660
ring really kind of

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00:19:16,660 --> 00:19:17,360
came to life.

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00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,060
Palm Beach, Florida

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00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:22,780
is home

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00:19:22,780 --> 00:19:23,480
to some of the

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00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,420
wealthiest people

341
00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:25,240
in America,

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00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,340
an exclusive enclave

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for the rich

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and powerful,

345
00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:30,500
including former

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00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:32,040
President Donald Trump.

347
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,460
Jeffrey Epstein's

348
00:19:35,460 --> 00:19:36,620
luxurious home here

349
00:19:36,620 --> 00:19:38,040
graced the foreshore,

350
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,500
its white walls

351
00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:40,560
and inscrutable

352
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:41,260
exterior

353
00:19:41,260 --> 00:19:43,360
hiding a dark truth.

354
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A place

355
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:45,400
where it's estimated

356
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,860
more than 100 girls

357
00:19:46,860 --> 00:19:47,440
were tricked

358
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:48,420
and abused.

359
00:19:48,860 --> 00:19:50,120
Their lives changed

360
00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:51,240
in an instant.

361
00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:53,560
At 14,

362
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:54,820
I was still

363
00:19:54,820 --> 00:19:55,540
in middle school.

364
00:19:55,860 --> 00:19:56,700
I was straight-A

365
00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:57,360
student,

366
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,660
never even got a B.

367
00:19:59,180 --> 00:20:00,480
I played the first

368
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,200
chair trumpet.

369
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,380
I was the captain

370
00:20:02,380 --> 00:20:03,580
of the cheerleading squad.

371
00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:04,740
And then after

372
00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:05,780
I met Jeffrey,

373
00:20:05,780 --> 00:20:07,100
I just completely

374
00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:08,080
quit.

375
00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:10,760
This is where

376
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:11,540
you were living

377
00:20:11,540 --> 00:20:12,420
for a while.

378
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:13,280
Yes,

379
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:13,900
this is where

380
00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:14,340
I was living

381
00:20:14,340 --> 00:20:14,800
when I met

382
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,480
Jeffrey Epstein.

383
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,640
Epstein was 48

384
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,860
when a teenage

385
00:20:19,860 --> 00:20:21,040
Courtney Wilde

386
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:21,860
entered his orbit

387
00:20:21,860 --> 00:20:23,180
in 2001.

388
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,020
At the time,

389
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:25,680
she was living

390
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,920
in this trailer park,

391
00:20:27,380 --> 00:20:28,720
one of West Palm Beach's

392
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,040
poorest communities.

393
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:31,960
Do you believe

394
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:32,740
that Jeffrey Epstein

395
00:20:32,740 --> 00:20:34,320
targeted areas like this?

396
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:34,760
Yeah,

397
00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:36,920
definitely targeted

398
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,660
children like myself

399
00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:40,140
that were vulnerable

400
00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:40,820
to him

401
00:20:40,820 --> 00:20:41,640
and his money

402
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,120
and we felt

403
00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:44,920
like we were

404
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:45,600
being helped

405
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,940
and saved by him

406
00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:48,100
when ultimately

407
00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:48,760
he was just

408
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,640
preying on us.

409
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,340
As Courtney

410
00:20:52,340 --> 00:20:53,840
told me in 2019,

411
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,380
her experience

412
00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:56,400
started when she

413
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:56,900
was brought

414
00:20:56,900 --> 00:20:57,560
to the millionaire

415
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,560
by another 14-year-old

416
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,280
to make

417
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,600
much-needed cash.

418
00:21:02,180 --> 00:21:02,720
The trap

419
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,880
had been set.

420
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,320
What were you

421
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,340
expecting to happen?

422
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,280
Why did you think

423
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,040
you were coming here?

424
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:09,840
Well,

425
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:10,720
I knew that I was

426
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,200
coming here

427
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:11,760
to give a guy

428
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:12,360
a massage

429
00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:13,200
and to make $200.

430
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:14,940
I did know that.

431
00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:19,000
It was never told

432
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:19,700
to me that I would

433
00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:20,760
be molested

434
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,540
by this man

435
00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:22,580
or anything like that.

436
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:23,960
Inside,

437
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,340
Courtney very soon

438
00:21:25,340 --> 00:21:25,940
discovered

439
00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:26,840
the massage

440
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:27,780
was cover

441
00:21:27,780 --> 00:21:28,920
for a terrible,

442
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,540
well-rehearsed crime.

443
00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:32,480
We were taken upstairs.

444
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,680
It was like

445
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,000
a circular stairwell

446
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,720
that led

447
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,880
to a hallway

448
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:38,860
that led

449
00:21:38,860 --> 00:21:39,760
to his bedroom,

450
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,540
which the massage

451
00:21:41,540 --> 00:21:42,160
table was in

452
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:42,820
his bedroom,

453
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,560
bathroom.

454
00:21:44,180 --> 00:21:44,500
You know,

455
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,080
he asked us

456
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:45,960
to get comfortable

457
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,660
to just,

458
00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:46,960
you know,

459
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,940
take our clothes off

460
00:21:47,940 --> 00:21:48,620
to be in our bra

461
00:21:48,620 --> 00:21:49,340
and panties.

462
00:21:49,740 --> 00:21:50,440
Were you abused

463
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,680
during that session?

464
00:21:52,540 --> 00:21:53,560
And so we would

465
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,120
massage him

466
00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:55,560
for about 30 minutes

467
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,680
and then whenever

468
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,260
he was ready,

469
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:57,520
you know,

470
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:58,140
rolled over

471
00:21:58,140 --> 00:21:59,060
and asked the person

472
00:21:59,060 --> 00:21:59,920
that brought me

473
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:01,340
to go downstairs

474
00:22:01,340 --> 00:22:01,980
and wait.

475
00:22:01,980 --> 00:22:04,360
and once that happened

476
00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:05,340
then that's when

477
00:22:05,340 --> 00:22:06,720
the sexual abuse

478
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,180
happened.

479
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,100
Yes.

480
00:22:08,740 --> 00:22:09,500
You're 14

481
00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:10,780
and in a completely

482
00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:12,240
alien situation,

483
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,500
an incomprehensible

484
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:14,020
position.

485
00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:15,260
How did you react?

486
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,280
I just remember

487
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,080
afterwards

488
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,020
how I felt

489
00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:20,000
walking down

490
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:20,580
the stairs

491
00:22:20,580 --> 00:22:22,020
and I just felt

492
00:22:22,020 --> 00:22:22,760
so dirty

493
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,020
and so,

494
00:22:24,580 --> 00:22:25,060
um,

495
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:26,420
like just,

496
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:27,600
like a piece of me

497
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,280
had been taken.

498
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,200
Dirty,

499
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:29,820
I felt

500
00:22:29,820 --> 00:22:30,680
it was like

501
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,120
my dirty

502
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:31,820
little secret.

503
00:22:35,220 --> 00:22:36,580
Virginia Dufresne's

504
00:22:36,580 --> 00:22:37,080
experience

505
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,540
was eerily similar

506
00:22:38,540 --> 00:22:40,400
except her recruiter

507
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,920
was not a fellow teen

508
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,180
but the sophisticated

509
00:22:43,180 --> 00:22:44,220
and seemingly

510
00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:45,020
trustworthy

511
00:22:45,020 --> 00:22:46,100
Ghislaine Maxwell.

512
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,480
Virginia was 16

513
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,300
and working

514
00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:50,300
at Donald Trump's

515
00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:51,460
Mar-a-Lago resort

516
00:22:51,460 --> 00:22:52,580
when Maxwell

517
00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:53,760
spied her reading

518
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,460
a textbook

519
00:22:54,460 --> 00:22:55,440
on massage.

520
00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:56,680
She just seemed

521
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,400
very nice

522
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,400
and she said

523
00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,120
I've got a

524
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:00,120
person that I know

525
00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:00,840
who's actually

526
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,620
looking for

527
00:23:01,620 --> 00:23:02,940
a travelling masseuse

528
00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:04,260
and, uh,

529
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:04,840
if you want

530
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,400
I can get you

531
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:05,840
an interview

532
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,400
with him.

533
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,520
If he likes you

534
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,580
we can get you

535
00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:09,180
educated,

536
00:23:09,460 --> 00:23:10,340
you'll be a real

537
00:23:10,340 --> 00:23:11,100
masseuse

538
00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:11,880
and you'll get

539
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,340
to travel

540
00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:13,200
and see the world

541
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,460
and, you know,

542
00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:15,100
like she made it

543
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:15,580
sound like

544
00:23:15,580 --> 00:23:16,020
it was

545
00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:17,860
a dream come true

546
00:23:17,860 --> 00:23:19,700
and it wasn't.

547
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:22,520
Within hours

548
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,000
Virginia

549
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,060
was at Epstein's

550
00:23:24,060 --> 00:23:25,140
Florida mansion

551
00:23:25,140 --> 00:23:26,260
lured there

552
00:23:26,260 --> 00:23:27,720
by Maxwell's promise.

553
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,040
it ended

554
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,380
in a devastating

555
00:23:30,380 --> 00:23:31,800
sexual attack.

556
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,060
So put it this way

557
00:23:33,060 --> 00:23:33,700
we did the back

558
00:23:33,700 --> 00:23:34,080
of him

559
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,680
we did the back

560
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:35,100
of Epstein

561
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:36,040
and then when he

562
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,980
turned over

563
00:23:36,980 --> 00:23:39,280
um, that's when

564
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,740
I was instructed

565
00:23:40,740 --> 00:23:41,440
to

566
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,120
um,

567
00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:45,120
to

568
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:49,080
that's when

569
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:49,640
I was instructed

570
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,260
to

571
00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:52,260
get undressed

572
00:23:52,260 --> 00:23:53,000
and

573
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,500
um

574
00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:55,960
and have sex

575
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,980
with Jeffrey Epstein

576
00:23:56,980 --> 00:23:57,460
while

577
00:23:57,460 --> 00:23:58,720
Ghislaine Maxwell

578
00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,580
was participating

579
00:23:59,580 --> 00:24:00,120
as well.

580
00:24:05,380 --> 00:24:06,700
You want to take a moment?

581
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:07,780
No, I'm okay.

582
00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:10,380
I'm okay.

583
00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:11,920
So you were abused

584
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,780
by both of them

585
00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:14,980
in your very first encounter

586
00:24:14,980 --> 00:24:15,800
with them?

587
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,360
Yeah, both of them.

588
00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:17,540
I was abused by

589
00:24:17,540 --> 00:24:19,540
Ghislaine and Epstein.

590
00:24:21,380 --> 00:24:23,000
I don't mean to sound sexist

591
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,260
in any way, shape or form

592
00:24:24,260 --> 00:24:26,200
but I expected it

593
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:26,940
from a man

594
00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:29,000
but I didn't expect it

595
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,560
from a woman

596
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,480
and, um

597
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,260
yeah,

598
00:24:34,660 --> 00:24:36,480
I think that's what hurts the most.

599
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:44,840
Maxwell's role

600
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,800
as Epstein's

601
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,800
co-conspirator

602
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,180
for which she is now

603
00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:49,520
serving a 20-year

604
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,240
jail term

605
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,220
is well known.

606
00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:52,760
But in truth

607
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,440
it went well beyond Maxwell.

608
00:24:55,180 --> 00:24:56,520
The pair devised a scheme

609
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,320
to feed

610
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,160
Epstein's

611
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,520
voracious appetite.

612
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,400
They lured

613
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,560
poverty-stricken girls

614
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,580
in with cash

615
00:25:03,580 --> 00:25:05,140
fanning their dreams

616
00:25:05,140 --> 00:25:06,240
of a better life.

617
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,080
According to journalist

618
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,840
Lucia Osborne Crowley

619
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,940
by the time

620
00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:12,360
the sexual abuse began

621
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:14,040
many were too invested

622
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,040
in their promises

623
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,320
to get out.

624
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,180
This was

625
00:25:18,180 --> 00:25:19,680
a well-oiled machine

626
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,380
of finding

627
00:25:21,380 --> 00:25:23,060
vulnerable young girls

628
00:25:23,060 --> 00:25:24,420
who really needed

629
00:25:24,420 --> 00:25:26,200
someone to look after them

630
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,820
and then also

631
00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:28,880
using those girls

632
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,640
to try and

633
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,220
entrap

634
00:25:30,220 --> 00:25:31,680
younger and younger girls

635
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,780
and a lot of that

636
00:25:32,780 --> 00:25:33,700
it seems was developed

637
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:34,420
in Florida.

638
00:25:34,420 --> 00:25:37,320
How many girls

639
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:37,780
do you think

640
00:25:37,780 --> 00:25:38,180
you brought

641
00:25:38,180 --> 00:25:39,460
to Jeffrey Epstein?

642
00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:41,480
At the minimum

643
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,880
50

644
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,760
but anywhere

645
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,280
from 50 to 70 girls.

646
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:47,100
And what were

647
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:47,680
their ages?

648
00:25:48,260 --> 00:25:48,980
The same ages

649
00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:49,480
of me

650
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,660
14, 15, 16.

651
00:25:52,020 --> 00:25:52,600
I just hold

652
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,140
a lot of guilt

653
00:25:53,140 --> 00:25:53,680
and shame

654
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,000
for doing those things

655
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,200
and just to know

656
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,340
that I had

657
00:25:57,340 --> 00:25:58,660
any influence

658
00:25:58,660 --> 00:26:00,040
on that happening

659
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,520
to somebody else

660
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,880
just, you know,

661
00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:03,480
it really,

662
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,800
it's just devastating

663
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,880
and breaks my heart.

664
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,300
Epstein's vile pyramid scheme

665
00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:11,340
might have continued

666
00:26:11,340 --> 00:26:12,340
unchecked

667
00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:12,960
if not

668
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,840
for the stepmother

669
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,660
of one of his

670
00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:15,520
teenage victims

671
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,540
who called

672
00:26:16,540 --> 00:26:17,300
the Palm Beach

673
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:18,140
Police Department

674
00:26:18,140 --> 00:26:19,640
in 2005.

675
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,420
It was an incident

676
00:26:21,420 --> 00:26:21,900
that occurred

677
00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:22,620
maybe like three,

678
00:26:22,780 --> 00:26:23,500
three and a half weeks ago

679
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:24,540
with one of my stepdaughters

680
00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:25,740
found out that

681
00:26:25,740 --> 00:26:27,220
ended up being that

682
00:26:27,220 --> 00:26:28,120
they went to Palm Beach

683
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:29,060
to a gentleman's house

684
00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:30,680
and they start out

685
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,800
by giving this gentleman

686
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,400
a massage

687
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,520
and he pays them

688
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,400
if he likes them

689
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:34,820
and he thinks

690
00:26:34,820 --> 00:26:36,060
that they're pretty enough

691
00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:36,780
he keeps them around

692
00:26:36,780 --> 00:26:37,600
to do other things.

693
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,240
Okay.

694
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,800
So I wasn't quite sure

695
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,460
if there was an investigation

696
00:26:41,460 --> 00:26:42,200
or if you guys

697
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,720
had any work.

698
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:44,600
Well, this is the first

699
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:45,740
I'm hearing of it.

700
00:26:45,740 --> 00:26:47,560
That initial call

701
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,540
was so alarming

702
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:49,740
the police launched

703
00:26:49,740 --> 00:26:50,540
an investigation

704
00:26:50,540 --> 00:26:52,720
and it didn't take them long

705
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,380
to uncover

706
00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:54,960
the revolting scale

707
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,580
of Epstein's network.

708
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,480
Did Jeff know

709
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,700
anybody's real true age

710
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:00,840
or he didn't care?

711
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,920
I don't think he cared.

712
00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:05,120
He told me

713
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:05,860
that I'm a little better.

714
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:06,720
He asked me

715
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,480
to take my shirt off

716
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,580
so I took my shirt off.

717
00:27:09,140 --> 00:27:09,400
Okay.

718
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,860
So were you in Brown

719
00:27:11,860 --> 00:27:12,820
or were you topless?

720
00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:14,780
Yeah, I ended up

721
00:27:14,780 --> 00:27:15,540
being topless, yeah.

722
00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:16,660
And he started getting

723
00:27:16,660 --> 00:27:18,700
a little excited a lot

724
00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:20,160
and he started

725
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,880
touching himself.

726
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,140
During the massage

727
00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:24,380
did he ask you

728
00:27:24,380 --> 00:27:25,920
to remove your pants

729
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,360
or?

730
00:27:28,340 --> 00:27:28,720
Yeah.

731
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,960
Police interviewed

732
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,700
a staggering 40 victims

733
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:34,040
whose ages ranged

734
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,900
from 13 to 16.

735
00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:37,380
Their accounts

736
00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:38,580
were shocking enough.

737
00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:41,140
But what they found

738
00:27:41,140 --> 00:27:42,360
in Epstein's home

739
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:44,940
was a creepy insight

740
00:27:44,940 --> 00:27:46,680
into his depraved life.

741
00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:49,280
Dozens of nude photos,

742
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,380
a steam room

743
00:27:50,380 --> 00:27:51,800
and a massage room

744
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,900
with sex toys.

745
00:27:54,220 --> 00:27:55,540
Among the damning evidence

746
00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:57,300
were phone message pads

747
00:27:57,300 --> 00:27:59,140
clearly showing a trade

748
00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:00,080
in young girls

749
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,200
scheduling them

750
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,660
for massage appointments

751
00:28:02,660 --> 00:28:03,660
and flight logs.

752
00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:04,520
And flight logs

753
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,260
listing girls

754
00:28:05,260 --> 00:28:06,240
being transported

755
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,480
aboard Geoffrey's

756
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,580
private plane

757
00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:09,460
dubbed

758
00:28:09,460 --> 00:28:11,180
the Lolita Express.

759
00:28:11,940 --> 00:28:12,600
I think it's really

760
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,520
important to know

761
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,000
that it is actually

762
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,380
much, much worse

763
00:28:16,380 --> 00:28:17,960
than we think.

764
00:28:19,660 --> 00:28:21,400
In 2006,

765
00:28:21,820 --> 00:28:22,900
much to the relief

766
00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:23,560
of police,

767
00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:24,640
this predator

768
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,000
was finally caught,

769
00:28:26,420 --> 00:28:27,460
a wealth of evidence

770
00:28:27,460 --> 00:28:28,760
amassed against him.

771
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,160
But his own vast wealth

772
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,820
and his immense influence

773
00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:34,680
saw him escape charges

774
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,720
that should have

775
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,640
landed him in jail

776
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,440
for life.

777
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:38,700
Instead,

778
00:28:38,980 --> 00:28:39,980
he served a mere

779
00:28:39,980 --> 00:28:41,040
13 months

780
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,260
when prosecutors

781
00:28:42,260 --> 00:28:43,820
accepted his guilty plea

782
00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:45,360
to the minor charge

783
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,320
of soliciting

784
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,100
a child

785
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:48,200
for prostitution.

786
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,000
But while he was

787
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,280
technically an inmate

788
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,220
at the Palm Beach

789
00:28:52,220 --> 00:28:53,240
County Stockade,

790
00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:54,320
he really

791
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,760
just slept there.

792
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,740
It was essentially

793
00:28:57,740 --> 00:28:58,420
a slap on the wrist.

794
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,480
He got 12-hour work

795
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,280
released from prison

796
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,180
every single day.

797
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:01,940
Other journalists

798
00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:02,560
have described it

799
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,540
as he just basically

800
00:29:03,540 --> 00:29:04,080
had to sleep

801
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,040
in a crappy motel

802
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,240
for, you know,

803
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,700
a bit over a year.

804
00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:08,960
For many,

805
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,140
the most outrageous

806
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:11,400
part of Epstein's

807
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,040
plea bargain

808
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,700
was a seedy deal

809
00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:14,260
he struck

810
00:29:14,260 --> 00:29:15,480
with the Attorney General

811
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,380
for the Southern

812
00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:17,520
District of Florida.

813
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,520
It gave Epstein

814
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,860
and any alleged

815
00:29:20,860 --> 00:29:22,020
co-conspirators

816
00:29:22,020 --> 00:29:23,880
known or unknown

817
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,140
immunity from

818
00:29:25,140 --> 00:29:26,160
further prosecution

819
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,460
supposedly forever.

820
00:29:29,740 --> 00:29:30,360
Worse still,

821
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,640
none of his victims

822
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,340
were told

823
00:29:32,340 --> 00:29:33,380
about the deal.

824
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,500
How do you feel

825
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:35,060
about that?

826
00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:37,040
To be sexually

827
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,180
abused by a man

828
00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:39,100
and have the

829
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:40,140
government know

830
00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:42,220
and then actually,

831
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,180
you know,

832
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,400
co-conspire

833
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,340
with the perpetrator

834
00:29:46,340 --> 00:29:47,860
to make sure

835
00:29:47,860 --> 00:29:48,720
nothing happens

836
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,880
to him

837
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,640
is just so...

838
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,920
It just sounds unreal.

839
00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:53,900
Why do you think

840
00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:54,860
the government did that?

841
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,200
My personal opinion

842
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,040
about that

843
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,560
is, you know,

844
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,300
money, power

845
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:04,460
and I think

846
00:30:04,460 --> 00:30:04,940
that there was

847
00:30:04,940 --> 00:30:05,540
a lot of people

848
00:30:05,540 --> 00:30:06,760
involved in this,

849
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,080
this underage,

850
00:30:08,420 --> 00:30:08,860
minor,

851
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,320
sex ring

852
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,360
that they were running

853
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,820
and I think

854
00:30:13,820 --> 00:30:14,560
everybody wanted

855
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,380
it to go away.

856
00:30:15,860 --> 00:30:16,400
So you believe

857
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:16,900
that there was

858
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:17,560
a conspiracy

859
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,420
at play here?

860
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,240
Oh, absolutely.

861
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,340
It really is

862
00:30:21,340 --> 00:30:22,740
a sordid story,

863
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,340
everything that

864
00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:23,980
happened in Florida

865
00:30:23,980 --> 00:30:25,120
and the fact that

866
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,340
authorities did know,

867
00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:27,140
did arrest him,

868
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,040
did charge him

869
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,000
and he still

870
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,940
was able to continue.

871
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,620
And according

872
00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:32,900
to Virginia Dufresne,

873
00:30:33,260 --> 00:30:33,880
the abuse

874
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,900
didn't stop

875
00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:35,980
with Jeffrey Epstein

876
00:30:35,980 --> 00:30:37,220
and Ghislaine Maxwell.

877
00:30:37,220 --> 00:30:39,260
She was not just

878
00:30:39,260 --> 00:30:40,660
their sexual plaything,

879
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,240
she was now part

880
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,260
of their international

881
00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:44,860
sex trafficking ring,

882
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:45,960
lent out

883
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,900
to whomever

884
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:47,880
they liked.

885
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,300
I was trafficked

886
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:51,460
to other billionaires,

887
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,260
I was trafficked

888
00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:54,620
to politicians,

889
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,080
professors,

890
00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:57,840
even royalty.

891
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:00,040
It was the elite

892
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,720
of the world,

893
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,740
it was the people

894
00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:02,620
who run the world,

895
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:03,140
it was the most

896
00:31:03,140 --> 00:31:03,820
powerful people

897
00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:04,340
in the world.

898
00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:19,060
Ghislaine was this

899
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:20,860
sort of very exotic,

900
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,280
glamorous figure

901
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,860
who would drop in

902
00:31:24,860 --> 00:31:26,660
and, to be honest,

903
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,600
name drop a lot

904
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,040
of famous names

905
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:29,900
that she'd been

906
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:30,740
hanging out with.

907
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,340
We heard about

908
00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:32,040
Bill Clinton

909
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,320
and sort of

910
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:33,680
all sorts

911
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,300
of other people

912
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:35,800
and we also knew

913
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,260
that she was

914
00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:38,080
very good friends

915
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,120
with Prince Andrew

916
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,240
and that Jeffrey Epstein

917
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,400
would sometimes

918
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,660
have Prince Andrew

919
00:31:44,660 --> 00:31:45,720
to stay.

920
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,860
As a British

921
00:31:47,860 --> 00:31:49,360
expat in New York,

922
00:31:49,780 --> 00:31:50,940
journalist Vicky Ward

923
00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:52,520
moved in similar circles

924
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,380
to socialite

925
00:31:53,380 --> 00:31:54,240
Ghislaine Maxwell,

926
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,500
the daughter

927
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:56,300
of disgraced

928
00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:58,140
mega-rich media tycoon

929
00:31:58,140 --> 00:31:59,300
Robert Maxwell.

930
00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:02,200
Following her father's

931
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,160
suspicious death

932
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,080
aboard his boat

933
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,160
in 1991,

934
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,640
Ghislaine moved

935
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,420
to New York

936
00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:08,560
where she started

937
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,440
her relationship

938
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,360
with the millionaire

939
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,580
Jeffrey Epstein.

940
00:32:12,580 --> 00:32:14,020
In 2002,

941
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,300
Vicky was assigned

942
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:16,580
to write a profile

943
00:32:16,580 --> 00:32:17,660
of the mysterious

944
00:32:17,660 --> 00:32:18,560
financier

945
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,720
for Vanity Fair

946
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,420
magazine.

947
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,200
When I began

948
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,540
reporting this piece,

949
00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:24,440
I actually ran

950
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,880
into Ghislaine Maxwell

951
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,600
and I sort of said

952
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,320
breezily,

953
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,080
oh, Ghislaine,

954
00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:30,760
yes, I'm writing

955
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,500
this story about

956
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:32,760
Jeffrey and the money

957
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,220
and I was really

958
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:36,200
taken aback

959
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,540
when she started

960
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:38,280
to cry.

961
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,140
I'm like,

962
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,780
why is this woman

963
00:32:42,780 --> 00:32:43,860
crying?

964
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:45,000
This doesn't seem

965
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,700
to make any sense.

966
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,180
Well, I didn't,

967
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:48,560
obviously,

968
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,800
I didn't know

969
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,220
that I was,

970
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,160
from her perspective,

971
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,460
probably in danger

972
00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:54,160
of pulling back

973
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:54,660
the curtain

974
00:32:54,660 --> 00:32:55,420
on what was

975
00:32:55,420 --> 00:32:56,340
an absolutely

976
00:32:56,340 --> 00:32:57,600
horrific criminal

977
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,440
sexual enterprise

978
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,540
involving both of them.

979
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,240
Epstein and Maxwell

980
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,600
complemented each other

981
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,260
perfectly.

982
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,840
He had the money

983
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,820
she was used to,

984
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:10,180
she had the contacts

985
00:33:10,180 --> 00:33:10,920
he wanted.

986
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,800
The most high profile,

987
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,420
of course,

988
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:14,540
being Prince Andrew,

989
00:33:14,980 --> 00:33:15,900
who is famously

990
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:17,420
accused of abusing

991
00:33:17,420 --> 00:33:19,340
the then 17-year-old

992
00:33:19,340 --> 00:33:20,160
Virginia Dufresne

993
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,520
at Epstein

994
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,160
and Maxwell's

995
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,480
invitation.

996
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,500
We went to

997
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:26,180
Club Tramp

998
00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:27,940
and he danced

999
00:33:27,940 --> 00:33:28,500
with me

1000
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:29,560
and he sweats

1001
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:29,980
a lot

1002
00:33:29,980 --> 00:33:30,740
and he smells

1003
00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:31,120
funny.

1004
00:33:32,980 --> 00:33:33,780
And then

1005
00:33:33,780 --> 00:33:35,580
we get in

1006
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:36,140
the car

1007
00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:36,600
and

1008
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,540
Gilan tells me

1009
00:33:38,540 --> 00:33:39,040
in the car

1010
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:39,640
that I have

1011
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,100
to do

1012
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,500
what I do

1013
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:42,960
for Jeffrey

1014
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,060
for Prince Andrew

1015
00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:45,160
and that's when

1016
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:45,600
I learned

1017
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:46,240
what was going

1018
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:46,720
to happen.

1019
00:33:47,220 --> 00:33:47,800
There's a slight

1020
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,660
problem with

1021
00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:50,080
the sweating

1022
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,460
because I have

1023
00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:55,800
a peculiar

1024
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,980
medical condition

1025
00:33:56,980 --> 00:33:57,680
which is that

1026
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,340
I don't sweat

1027
00:33:58,340 --> 00:34:00,020
or I didn't sweat

1028
00:34:00,020 --> 00:34:00,660
at the time

1029
00:34:00,660 --> 00:34:01,800
and that was

1030
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,440
oh actually

1031
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,300
yes,

1032
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,300
I didn't sweat

1033
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:04,740
at the time

1034
00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:06,720
because I

1035
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,420
had suffered

1036
00:34:08,420 --> 00:34:08,900
what I would

1037
00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:09,660
describe as

1038
00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:10,240
an overdose

1039
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:10,960
of adrenaline

1040
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,580
in the Falklands

1041
00:34:11,580 --> 00:34:11,920
War

1042
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,460
when I was

1043
00:34:12,460 --> 00:34:12,840
shot at

1044
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,020
and I

1045
00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:15,680
simply

1046
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,680
it was

1047
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,860
almost impossible

1048
00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:18,300
for me

1049
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:19,300
to sweat.

1050
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,480
It was a claim

1051
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,700
and counterclaim

1052
00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:23,340
that turned

1053
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:24,040
this royal's

1054
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,460
life upside down.

1055
00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:26,900
His ill-advised

1056
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:28,080
decision to appear

1057
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:28,840
on the BBC

1058
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,060
in 2019

1059
00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:31,400
left him

1060
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,540
if not sweating

1061
00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:34,180
then red-faced.

1062
00:34:34,820 --> 00:34:35,400
His attempt

1063
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,400
to convince us

1064
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,180
he knew nothing

1065
00:34:37,180 --> 00:34:38,120
of the teenage

1066
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:38,680
Virginia

1067
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,820
fell flat

1068
00:34:39,820 --> 00:34:41,000
when this photo

1069
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000
taken in 2001

1070
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,240
in Maxwell's

1071
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:45,260
London apartment

1072
00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:46,360
resurfaced.

1073
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,500
She provided

1074
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:48,100
a photo

1075
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:49,240
of the two

1076
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:49,900
of you together.

1077
00:34:50,020 --> 00:34:50,260
Yes.

1078
00:34:50,460 --> 00:34:51,100
How do you

1079
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:51,820
explain that?

1080
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:52,900
I can't

1081
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:55,620
because I don't

1082
00:34:55,620 --> 00:34:56,240
I have no

1083
00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:57,060
again I have

1084
00:34:57,060 --> 00:34:58,060
absolutely no

1085
00:34:58,060 --> 00:34:59,300
memory of that

1086
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:00,040
photograph ever

1087
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,580
being taken.

1088
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:01,420
Your friend

1089
00:35:01,420 --> 00:35:02,160
suggested that

1090
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,880
the photo is

1091
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,300
fake.

1092
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,600
I think it's

1093
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,280
from the

1094
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:07,840
investigations

1095
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,860
that we've done

1096
00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:10,700
you can't prove

1097
00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:11,600
whether or not

1098
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,160
that photograph

1099
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,620
is faked or not

1100
00:35:14,620 --> 00:35:16,080
because it is

1101
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:16,660
a photograph

1102
00:35:16,660 --> 00:35:17,380
of a photograph

1103
00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:18,140
of a photograph

1104
00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:19,400
so it's very

1105
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,100
difficult to be

1106
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:22,300
able to prove

1107
00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:24,940
it but I don't

1108
00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:25,360
remember that

1109
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:25,880
photograph ever

1110
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,380
being taken.

1111
00:35:26,860 --> 00:35:27,460
So as you know

1112
00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:28,020
Prince Andrew

1113
00:35:28,020 --> 00:35:29,100
denies the

1114
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:29,860
allegations against

1115
00:35:29,860 --> 00:35:30,700
him and he says

1116
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:31,220
that this photo

1117
00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:31,700
is a fake

1118
00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:32,120
that he was

1119
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:32,660
never there

1120
00:35:32,660 --> 00:35:33,160
and that it's

1121
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:33,820
not his arm

1122
00:35:33,820 --> 00:35:34,960
and they're not

1123
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,440
his fingers.

1124
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:35,940
Those are his

1125
00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:36,300
fingers.

1126
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,200
That is Andrew.

1127
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,380
This photo has

1128
00:35:38,380 --> 00:35:39,800
been verified as

1129
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,420
an original

1130
00:35:40,420 --> 00:35:41,960
and it's been

1131
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,540
since given

1132
00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:43,120
to the FBI

1133
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,820
and they've

1134
00:35:43,820 --> 00:35:45,040
never contested

1135
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:45,780
that it's a fake

1136
00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:46,700
and I know

1137
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:47,180
it's real

1138
00:35:47,180 --> 00:35:48,240
and he needs

1139
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:48,720
to stop

1140
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:49,280
with all

1141
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:49,820
of these lame

1142
00:35:49,820 --> 00:35:50,260
excuses.

1143
00:35:50,420 --> 00:35:50,760
We're sick

1144
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,400
of hearing it.

1145
00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:54,180
This is a real

1146
00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:54,520
photo.

1147
00:35:55,020 --> 00:35:55,580
And that was

1148
00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:56,080
the first time

1149
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:56,480
you met him?

1150
00:35:56,620 --> 00:35:56,980
And that's

1151
00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:57,500
the very first

1152
00:35:57,500 --> 00:35:58,040
time I met him

1153
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:58,680
and that's

1154
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,140
right before

1155
00:35:59,140 --> 00:35:59,740
I was abused

1156
00:35:59,740 --> 00:36:00,180
by him.

1157
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,580
How many times

1158
00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:03,360
were you trafficked

1159
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,960
to him?

1160
00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:05,320
Three times.

1161
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,500
Her allegations

1162
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:08,300
against Prince

1163
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:09,200
Andrew are laid

1164
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,060
bare in the

1165
00:36:10,060 --> 00:36:11,020
newly unsealed

1166
00:36:11,020 --> 00:36:12,040
court documents.

1167
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:13,260
The disgraced

1168
00:36:13,260 --> 00:36:14,320
royal is mentioned

1169
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,700
69 times

1170
00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:17,020
and not just

1171
00:36:17,020 --> 00:36:17,740
by Virginia.

1172
00:36:18,580 --> 00:36:18,940
Johanna

1173
00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:19,600
Schoberg,

1174
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,760
who was 21

1175
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,500
at the time,

1176
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,640
claims to have

1177
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,460
had her own

1178
00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:24,740
traumatic experience

1179
00:36:24,740 --> 00:36:25,480
with Prince

1180
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:25,880
Andrew.

1181
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,500
And she says

1182
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:28,340
she saw the

1183
00:36:28,340 --> 00:36:29,120
Prince and

1184
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,120
Virginia together

1185
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,360
at the Epstein

1186
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,500
Mansion in New

1187
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:32,880
York.

1188
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,120
According to

1189
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:35,840
British-based

1190
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,840
Australian author

1191
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,220
Lucia Osborne

1192
00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:39,640
Crowley, her

1193
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,600
account, given

1194
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,740
under oath, is

1195
00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:42,820
damning of the

1196
00:36:42,820 --> 00:36:43,280
Prince.

1197
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,820
We also have an

1198
00:36:46,820 --> 00:36:47,540
allegation from a

1199
00:36:47,540 --> 00:36:48,220
separate victim,

1200
00:36:48,420 --> 00:36:49,340
Johanna, who has

1201
00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:49,960
said that she was

1202
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,940
groped by Prince

1203
00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:51,320
Andrew.

1204
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:53,060
So that's incredibly

1205
00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:54,240
significant because

1206
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:55,720
we have sworn

1207
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:56,520
testimony from a

1208
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,100
second person

1209
00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:58,500
corroborating that

1210
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,460
he did engage in

1211
00:37:00,460 --> 00:37:01,760
illegal acts

1212
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,920
relating to

1213
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,760
minors.

1214
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,020
Do you expect

1215
00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:05,700
Prince Andrew

1216
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:06,440
to be under

1217
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,440
further legal

1218
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:07,900
scrutiny?

1219
00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:09,960
I think that

1220
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,920
certainly Prince

1221
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,760
Andrew will be

1222
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,500
facing many, many,

1223
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,000
many more

1224
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,320
questions given

1225
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,020
what we've

1226
00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:17,880
learned in

1227
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,680
these new

1228
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,840
documents.

1229
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,400
And it's

1230
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,220
really important,

1231
00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:22,740
I think, for the

1232
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:23,840
authorities to

1233
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,800
look at the

1234
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,200
fact that there

1235
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,660
is a second

1236
00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:26,700
person who's

1237
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:27,960
alleging that

1238
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,600
he broke the

1239
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,540
law and

1240
00:37:29,540 --> 00:37:30,360
whether they

1241
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,520
need to speak

1242
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,580
to those

1243
00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:33,220
victims and

1244
00:37:33,220 --> 00:37:33,980
other potential

1245
00:37:33,980 --> 00:37:34,860
victims to see

1246
00:37:34,860 --> 00:37:35,660
if there is

1247
00:37:35,660 --> 00:37:36,640
anything that

1248
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,680
they can or

1249
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,020
should be

1250
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:38,500
charging him

1251
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:38,680
with.

1252
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,000
I wonder if

1253
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:40,760
you have any

1254
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,540
sense now of

1255
00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:44,520
guilt, regret or

1256
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,000
shame about any

1257
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,900
of your behaviour

1258
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:47,300
and your

1259
00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:47,800
friendship with

1260
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,120
Epstein?

1261
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,180
As far as my

1262
00:37:50,180 --> 00:37:51,980
association with

1263
00:37:51,980 --> 00:37:53,440
him was concerned,

1264
00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:56,600
it had some

1265
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,960
seriously beneficial

1266
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,340
outcomes in

1267
00:38:00,340 --> 00:38:01,840
areas that have

1268
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,940
nothing to do

1269
00:38:03,940 --> 00:38:05,220
with what I

1270
00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:05,540
would describe

1271
00:38:05,540 --> 00:38:05,880
as what we're

1272
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,400
talking about

1273
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:06,780
today.

1274
00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:08,500
Prince Andrew

1275
00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:09,640
has since found

1276
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,680
regret but

1277
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,900
continues to deny

1278
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:12,920
all the allegations

1279
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,060
levelled at him.

1280
00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:15,460
He settled with

1281
00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:16,680
Virginia Dufresne on

1282
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,480
the eve of their

1283
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,540
civil trial in

1284
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:20,720
2022, reportedly

1285
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:21,860
for more than

1286
00:38:21,860 --> 00:38:23,060
$15 million.

1287
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,480
In settling with

1288
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,460
her, the prince

1289
00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:27,400
likely thought the

1290
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,340
saga was over.

1291
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:29,620
But the release of

1292
00:38:29,620 --> 00:38:30,160
these latest

1293
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,540
documents once again

1294
00:38:31,540 --> 00:38:32,540
raises questions

1295
00:38:32,540 --> 00:38:34,320
for him and many

1296
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,320
other Epstein

1297
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,260
associates.

1298
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,220
Those are very,

1299
00:38:38,420 --> 00:38:38,860
very wealthy,

1300
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,920
powerful people and

1301
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,740
so far they've

1302
00:38:40,740 --> 00:38:41,800
escaped without many

1303
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,400
questions being

1304
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:42,960
asked of them.

1305
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:48,100
Billionaire

1306
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:48,980
financier Jeffrey

1307
00:38:48,980 --> 00:38:49,720
Epstein has been

1308
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:50,720
arrested, charged

1309
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:51,800
with sex trafficking

1310
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,940
involving underage

1311
00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:53,380
girls.

1312
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,400
He could face up to

1313
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,800
45 years behind

1314
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,200
bars.

1315
00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:58,880
It was a prized

1316
00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,380
catch.

1317
00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:01,760
In 2019, the roar

1318
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,260
around Jeffrey Epstein's

1319
00:39:03,260 --> 00:39:04,700
sex trafficking ring

1320
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:06,540
was so loud, police

1321
00:39:06,540 --> 00:39:07,800
were forced to act.

1322
00:39:08,860 --> 00:39:09,840
Neatly befitting the

1323
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,060
lifestyle of a jet

1324
00:39:11,060 --> 00:39:11,760
setting millionaire,

1325
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:13,800
Epstein was nabbed on

1326
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,680
his private plane as

1327
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,700
he landed back in the

1328
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:18,180
US from Paris.

1329
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,440
For his most outspoken

1330
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,580
victim, Virginia

1331
00:39:21,580 --> 00:39:23,380
Dufresne, his arrest

1332
00:39:23,380 --> 00:39:24,720
was a gift more than

1333
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:26,460
20 years in the making.

1334
00:39:27,140 --> 00:39:27,820
I never thought it was

1335
00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:28,260
going to happen.

1336
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,780
I honestly thought he was

1337
00:39:29,780 --> 00:39:30,780
just going to continue to

1338
00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:31,780
get away with it over and

1339
00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:33,000
over and over again, just

1340
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,100
like he proved so many

1341
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:34,560
times.

1342
00:39:36,620 --> 00:39:38,680
So, yeah, it was like

1343
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,560
Christmas in July.

1344
00:39:40,940 --> 00:39:41,600
Big time.

1345
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,620
But the expectation that

1346
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:46,140
Epstein would finally face

1347
00:39:46,140 --> 00:39:48,200
his crimes was dashed when

1348
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,300
he was found dead by

1349
00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:51,720
suicide in his jail cell a

1350
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:52,400
month later.

1351
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,860
Miss Grace financier,

1352
00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:55,260
Jeffrey Epstein, has taken

1353
00:39:55,260 --> 00:39:56,300
his own life.

1354
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,400
The bombshell development

1355
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,280
raising many new

1356
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:58,720
questions.

1357
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,320
With Epstein dead, the

1358
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,600
charges against him were

1359
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,560
dismissed, denying justice

1360
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,900
to his many victims.

1361
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:08,260
And his co-conspirator,

1362
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,580
British socialite

1363
00:40:09,580 --> 00:40:11,340
Ghislaine Maxwell, became

1364
00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:12,920
the most wanted woman in

1365
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,160
the world as she went on

1366
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:15,600
the run.

1367
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,240
So the idea that this

1368
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:22,960
woman could be involved in

1369
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,200
something as depraved and

1370
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,360
horrific as this, that was

1371
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,120
mind-boggling.

1372
00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:34,040
As journalist Vicky Ward and

1373
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,380
the rest of the world watched

1374
00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:37,500
on in fascination, Ghislaine

1375
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:38,800
was tracked down to a

1376
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,160
luxurious New Hampshire

1377
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,060
hideaway after eluding

1378
00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:43,460
police for a year.

1379
00:40:44,340 --> 00:40:45,280
Today we announced the

1380
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,020
arrest of one of the

1381
00:40:46,020 --> 00:40:46,620
villains in this

1382
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:47,220
investigation.

1383
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,100
This day to me has been

1384
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:51,880
like one of the best days

1385
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:52,320
of my life.

1386
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,600
I have not stopped smiling

1387
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,560
and crying happy tears.

1388
00:40:55,940 --> 00:40:58,200
And I'm just, yeah, I'm

1389
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,000
elated to know that she's

1390
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,880
where she belongs.

1391
00:41:01,540 --> 00:41:02,680
Immediately upon

1392
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,540
Maxwell's arrest, Virginia

1393
00:41:04,540 --> 00:41:06,040
spoke for all the victims

1394
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,260
of the sex trafficking

1395
00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:07,780
ring.

1396
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:11,160
She ruins so many lives.

1397
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,520
She belongs in jail.

1398
00:41:12,860 --> 00:41:14,040
You want to hurt kids?

1399
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,300
That's where you go.

1400
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,520
In 2022, Maxwell was

1401
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,220
convicted on five sex

1402
00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:21,900
trafficking counts, the

1403
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:23,760
then 60-year-old sentenced

1404
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,560
to 20 years in jail.

1405
00:41:26,620 --> 00:41:28,420
She has lodged an appeal

1406
00:41:28,420 --> 00:41:29,660
which will be reviewed in

1407
00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:31,700
March and continues to claim

1408
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,800
her innocence from jail, as

1409
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,300
she told her brother, Kevin

1410
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:35,820
Maxwell.

1411
00:41:36,460 --> 00:41:37,800
Everyone was always asking

1412
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,520
who is the real G, who's

1413
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,140
the real Ghislaine?

1414
00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:43,420
It's definitely not the

1415
00:41:43,420 --> 00:41:44,840
person portrays.

1416
00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:46,460
I feel completely divorced

1417
00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:50,400
from the person that people

1418
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,160
reference and talk about.

1419
00:41:52,820 --> 00:41:53,460
And so the biggest

1420
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:54,720
misconception of you?

1421
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,380
Because I'm the cruelest,

1422
00:41:57,540 --> 00:41:59,780
meanest, horrorest person

1423
00:41:59,780 --> 00:42:01,660
who's done committed crimes.

1424
00:42:02,540 --> 00:42:02,860
Yeah.

1425
00:42:04,820 --> 00:42:07,520
And, I mean, I literally

1426
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,580
haven't seen any details

1427
00:42:11,580 --> 00:42:14,200
that are accurate.

1428
00:42:16,580 --> 00:42:19,160
Lucia Osborne Crowley was

1429
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,460
one of the few journalists

1430
00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:22,360
granted access to the court

1431
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,020
to report on Maxwell's

1432
00:42:24,020 --> 00:42:24,520
trial.

1433
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:26,800
It was surprising that even

1434
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,320
at her own federal sex

1435
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,860
trafficking trial, she didn't

1436
00:42:29,860 --> 00:42:31,480
appear to have a lot of

1437
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,120
humility and still was

1438
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,540
incredibly confident.

1439
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,980
And I certainly got the

1440
00:42:36,980 --> 00:42:38,520
sense that she did not

1441
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:39,840
expect to be convicted.

1442
00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:41,700
And certainly no remorse.

1443
00:42:42,340 --> 00:42:43,360
Certainly no remorse.

1444
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,660
She basically said that she

1445
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:46,580
was sorry for the damage

1446
00:42:46,580 --> 00:42:47,500
that Jeffrey Epstein had

1447
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:47,960
caused them.

1448
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,100
And that's all she said.

1449
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:51,780
With Maxwell behind bars

1450
00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:53,020
and Epstein dead,

1451
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:55,000
this case appeared to be

1452
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,520
resolved.

1453
00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:57,240
But the recent release of

1454
00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:58,440
these court documents

1455
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,480
shows how little we still

1456
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:00,860
know.

1457
00:43:01,540 --> 00:43:02,820
There are so many names

1458
00:43:02,820 --> 00:43:04,620
that we are left with

1459
00:43:04,620 --> 00:43:05,940
question marks about.

1460
00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:08,980
What was his appeal?

1461
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:10,400
Why did some of the most

1462
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,040
powerful men in the world

1463
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,000
flock to him?

1464
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,620
What was Bill Gates doing

1465
00:43:16,620 --> 00:43:19,000
around Jeffrey Epstein?

1466
00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:20,300
I'd love to hear from Bill

1467
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:22,160
Clinton what he saw in

1468
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:22,920
Jeffrey Epstein.

1469
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:24,100
That would be great to

1470
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:24,280
know.

1471
00:43:24,820 --> 00:43:27,740
In all, more than 150 names

1472
00:43:27,740 --> 00:43:29,060
have been linked to the

1473
00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:30,060
disgraced millionaire.

1474
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,820
But apart from some

1475
00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:33,580
denials of any wrongdoing,

1476
00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:35,120
the silence from those

1477
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,680
identified has been

1478
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,180
deafening.

1479
00:43:37,660 --> 00:43:39,440
We've got evidence of

1480
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,160
sworn testimony where people

1481
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,400
are naming very, very

1482
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,000
powerful people who would

1483
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:44,760
have been in a position

1484
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,540
potentially to do something

1485
00:43:46,540 --> 00:43:47,740
about what was going on

1486
00:43:47,740 --> 00:43:48,060
here.

1487
00:43:48,220 --> 00:43:49,360
And instead, we had a

1488
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,320
sex trafficking ring that

1489
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,860
went on for at least two

1490
00:43:51,860 --> 00:43:53,140
decades, possibly three,

1491
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,400
with almost complete

1492
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,060
impunity.

1493
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,260
And so that's the point

1494
00:43:57,260 --> 00:43:58,580
that I think we really all

1495
00:43:58,580 --> 00:43:59,680
need to hold on to about

1496
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,760
scale here is that not the

1497
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,200
splashiness of these names,

1498
00:44:04,340 --> 00:44:05,680
but just how many there are,

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just how many people there

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are that victims pointed to

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to say, this person can

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corroborate my story.

1503
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This person can be a

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witness.

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This person met me on the

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island.

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This person saw me.

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And those are very, very

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wealthy, powerful people.

1510
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And so far, they've escaped

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without many questions

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00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:22,600
being asked of them.

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We'd have to assume that

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they're just running from

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00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,780
this as far and as fast as

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they can.

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Yes.

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Well, I mean, I've been

1519
00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:33,160
quite surprised at the

1520
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,020
silence over the last couple

1521
00:44:35,020 --> 00:44:36,480
of weeks, if I'm completely

1522
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:36,880
honest.

1523
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I would have thought that at

1524
00:44:39,060 --> 00:44:40,020
least some of these people

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00:44:40,020 --> 00:44:41,240
would have felt an obligation

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to do some explaining.

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At the very least,

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00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,360
association with Jeffrey

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00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,340
Epstein raises questions of

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00:44:49,340 --> 00:44:50,480
judgment, right?

1531
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,980
Nobody looks good for having

1532
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:54,280
hung out with Jeffrey Epstein

1533
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,540
now knowing everything that

1534
00:44:56,540 --> 00:44:57,940
we know, whether or not they

1535
00:44:57,940 --> 00:44:59,200
should be held accountable as

1536
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,480
to whether or not there was

1537
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,540
any criminal activity.

1538
00:45:01,980 --> 00:45:03,200
And obviously, we just don't

1539
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know.

1540
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,440
One has to hope that because

1541
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,100
we now know so much more that

1542
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there is so much public

1543
00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:13,380
scrutiny on this, that the

1544
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wheels of justice will turn in

1545
00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:17,600
a way that they definitely

1546
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,840
didn't for a very long time.

1547
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,320
The legacy of Jeffrey Epstein

1548
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,820
and Glenn Maxwell is to expose

1549
00:45:25,820 --> 00:45:28,640
a darkness too awful to imagine.

1550
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,140
But as difficult as it is to

1551
00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:32,960
comprehend, it would seem

1552
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,680
there's even more to be

1553
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revealed.

1554
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:37,120
Certainly from what I know,

1555
00:45:37,340 --> 00:45:39,040
there are more people who

1556
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,780
aren't even on this list that

1557
00:45:40,780 --> 00:45:42,660
either knew or potentially

1558
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:44,260
participated in what was going

1559
00:45:44,260 --> 00:45:45,660
on around Jeffrey Epstein.

1560
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Do you expect that others will

1561
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,480
be charged, that others will face

1562
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:49,980
prosecution?

1563
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I very much hope so.

1564
00:45:54,580 --> 00:45:55,860
I think it's really important to

1565
00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:57,880
know it is actually much, much

1566
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,820
worse than we think and that

1567
00:46:00,820 --> 00:46:02,080
we're comfortable accepting.

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Hello, I'm Tara Brown.

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