1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,919 What is the worst animal testing experiment you've ever heard of and uncovered? 2 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:09,200 There's some really bad ones out there. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:16,679 What is the absolute worst one you've ever heard of and uncovered? 4 00:00:16,679 --> 00:00:20,879 The kitten cannibalism was pretty horrendous. 5 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:24,839 Breeding kittens just to force them to eat cat meat and then killing them even though 6 00:00:24,839 --> 00:00:28,039 they were perfectly healthy after they collected their feces out of a litter box. 7 00:00:28,079 --> 00:00:29,399 I mean, that's literally what was happening. 8 00:00:29,399 --> 00:00:32,000 They were doing that to thousands and thousands of kittens. 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,399 The DOJ until recently was stabbing, shooting and blowing up live animals for training 10 00:00:37,399 --> 00:00:40,000 exercises. We were able to cut that and defund that. 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,599 The experiments that the NIH funded and Fauci funded in Tunisia, where they were putting 12 00:00:46,599 --> 00:00:50,960 the dogs and heads in mesh cages and filling them with biting flies. 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,159 Yeah, there's a lot of nightmare stuff that we're being forced to fund and taxpayers 14 00:00:57,159 --> 00:01:00,399 don't like it and they don't even know how bad the situation is. 15 00:01:00,519 --> 00:01:03,239 If they did, they would be marching in the streets. 16 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:05,879 Yeah. And Dr. Locke, a question for you. 17 00:01:05,879 --> 00:01:09,439 What are the prospects of a drug therapy that fails animal testing? 18 00:01:09,439 --> 00:01:12,079 Is it likely to receive regulatory approval? 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,120 Thank you for your question. 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,000 I'm not an expert on the drug development process, but the way you've described things, 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:24,759 I think if the drug would not make it through the tests that are required, it would not 22 00:01:24,759 --> 00:01:26,000 be able to be in the market. 23 00:01:26,239 --> 00:01:31,760 If I could just add, though, that Congress has really looked closely at this issue about 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:38,920 developing drugs and has passed a law, the FDA Modernization Act, that removed the 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,400 requirements for testing drugs. 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,599 And my understanding is that there's bipartisan support for another law because... 27 00:01:45,719 --> 00:01:49,200 feels that the FDA is not moving more quickly in this area. 28 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:54,240 That is the FDA Modernization Act 3.0 that would force the agency to really pay a lot 29 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:56,119 more attention to using alternatives. 30 00:01:56,319 --> 00:02:01,119 OK. And then, Ms. Baker, before I hand it over to Ms. Boebert, I love your idea of 31 00:02:01,119 --> 00:02:02,560 revisiting the Animal Welfare Act. 32 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,599 I'd be open to working with you and finding that language and doing a bill that would 33 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:08,680 insert that language to define what an animal is. 34 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,840 I think it's very important. 35 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:12,439 I'm all about small parts, big difference. 36 00:02:12,439 --> 00:02:16,680 Of course, I would like to eradicate animal testing altogether, but that seems like an 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,280 easy win that we could work on together in a nonpartisan manner. 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,959 So I would love to talk to you about that. 39 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,560 And I will yield the last two and a half minutes to Ms. Boebert.