1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,360 This tragic crash, the latest in an uptick, sadly, in major aviation accidents in recent years. 2 00:00:05,980 --> 00:00:11,460 Last year, there were 15 flight and two ground Class A incidents, meaning incidents that killed 3 00:00:11,460 --> 00:00:16,300 service members or cost more than two and a half million dollars in damage. And the spike has put 4 00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:22,100 a pause on some flight operations right now to look at safety procedures. There is also concern 5 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:26,640 over the air traffic controller staffing situation the night of the deadly crash. 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:32,820 The AP initially reporting that staffing was not normal at the time. The FAA citing one person 7 00:00:32,820 --> 00:00:37,860 was responsible for coordinating helicopter traffic and arriving and departing planes. 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:43,260 Another source telling the AP that it is normal for one controller to be doing two people's jobs 9 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:49,100 at that time, like when there's a shift change or someone is on a break. Here now, aviation attorney 10 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:55,320 and private pilot Timothy LaRanger, thank you for being with us. As I'm thinking about the airspace 11 00:00:55,320 --> 00:01:01,100 in Washington, D.C., one of the most busy and congested in the country, what are the challenges 12 00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:06,780 that pilots face when both military aircraft are doing training exercises and commercial 13 00:01:06,780 --> 00:01:09,240 or passenger planes are trying to take off and land? 14 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:15,960 Well, the challenges are really for the air traffic controllers. When all of this action 15 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:20,440 activity is occurring around the airport, they're responsible for separating the aircraft, 16 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:26,620 keeping them in a safe position so that they don't have conflicts, like we saw in this tragedy. 17 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:32,120 Pilots, of course, also are responsible for looking out of the aircraft, using the instruments 18 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,880 within the aircraft to ensure that they keep an appropriate separation from aircraft as best 19 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:42,820 they can. The CRJ was on final approach. You know, those pilots are really focused on landing 20 00:01:42,820 --> 00:01:48,220 the aircraft. They've been given clearance, meaning that they have that airspace. It's theirs. 21 00:01:48,220 --> 00:01:53,920 They can fly through it. And then the helicopter pilots certainly have a responsibility to look 22 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,620 out the window, you know, the windshield of the aircraft and make sure that they are 23 00:01:58,620 --> 00:02:03,540 seeing other aircraft and avoiding them as much as possible. So it's a lot. It's a challenging 24 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:04,100 airspace. 25 00:02:04,460 --> 00:02:08,560 Right. And there are lots of complicating factors that will have to be considered here. 26 00:02:09,060 --> 00:02:12,760 How high on the list is the altitude of the chopper in your mind? 27 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:20,020 Well, there's a reason why they set at 200-foot altitude, and that is so there is a cushion 28 00:02:20,020 --> 00:02:23,960 between the aircraft that are landing and the aircraft that are flying through that corridor, 29 00:02:24,420 --> 00:02:31,200 that passage area that is used to get from one side of the airport to the other and designed 30 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:38,000 in a way to avoid conflicts. So maintaining altitude at or below that ceiling is critical. 31 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:44,780 It's very important. Why that aircraft, why the Blackhawk was higher at a higher altitude, 32 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,620 whether it was really at a higher altitude, those are all things that will come out during 33 00:02:48,620 --> 00:02:49,400 this investigation. 34 00:02:49,860 --> 00:02:54,980 And we are waiting for all of the details and evidence to come from these data recorders 35 00:02:54,980 --> 00:03:00,280 on board the aircraft and also the Blackhawk. What are you most anticipating to hear or learn 36 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,460 once that is released? 37 00:03:01,460 --> 00:03:07,880 I'm looking forward to hearing a full transcript of the air traffic control communications with 38 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:14,160 both of the aircraft. Also, any communications within the cockpit or within the Blackhawk helicopter 39 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:20,260 between the crew. You know, how were they coordinating? Because they're very highly trained 40 00:03:20,260 --> 00:03:24,620 to work together to make sure that when they're operating the aircraft, they're doing it in the 41 00:03:24,620 --> 00:03:30,200 safest possible way. And they do it as a team, everyone looking outside. So that would be a very 42 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,600 interesting piece of information. You know, it's too early to rush to judgment. It's too early to 43 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:41,200 suggest that it was the Blackhawk pilots or a particular air traffic controller. It was that it was 44 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,620 their fault. So we need to hold off on that, get the information, then we can come to some 45 00:03:45,620 --> 00:03:46,100 conclusions. 46 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,600 Meantime, I mean, you're a pilot, but you're also an attorney. So legally speaking, even as the 47 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:57,260 investigation rolls forward, there are questions being asked legally, and I'm sure cases being 48 00:03:57,260 --> 00:04:04,960 prepared once we learn a little bit more. Do you have any concern that or anticipation that this 49 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,200 will become a serious legal matter for anyone involved? 50 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:15,060 Well, I would think that it's very likely that there will be litigation that arises from this 51 00:04:15,060 --> 00:04:25,200 incident. You know, 64, more than 60 people died, unfortunately, and due to some miscalculation or 52 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:32,280 miscommunication or, you know, something that fell below what we would expect from the people who are 53 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:39,960 involved. So I would anticipate that that will occur. But I know that responsible lawyers will be waiting to 54 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:45,620 get the information that is available to make appropriate decisions and conclusions. 55 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,700 Yeah, one step at a time. But accountability, always a part of the search for answers. Timothy 56 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:52,220 LaRanger, thank you, sir, for your time. 57 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,060 Thank you so much for having me. 58 00:04:54,060 --> 00:04:59,260 Thank you for watching. Go to NewsNationNow.com to find NewsNation on your television provider. 59 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:04,700 And don't forget to click the red subscribe button below to get more of NewsNation's fact-driven, 60 00:05:04,900 --> 00:05:06,020 unbiased coverage.