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hi everyone uh desiree foley here and i'm with my co-host ben chasting say hi ben hey guys how

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you doing good to see you we're yeah we're here today to interview a very close friend of mine

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jesse beltram hi jesse how are you doing today i'm doing great good good jesse um can you tell

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our audience a little bit about yourself okay well uh obviously you know my name i'm jesse beltran

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um i'm a retired sacramento city firefighter paramedic out of the city of sacramento in

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california um my background is i was the former president of an organization called the international

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center against the abuse of covert technologies um i am currently a certified master hypnotist with my

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diploma in hypnotherapy and i was uh formerly the owner of a an isp in the state of california in the

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late 90s in which we were instrumental before high speed data was around and using uh direct

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line of sight microwave technology to give corporations high speed data currently i am

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the president of cosmic clarity connections and what we do is uh we put together seminars and

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retreats to educate the general public about topics that um are basically not covered by mainstream media

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today and until recently and uh what um where my story begins is back in 2009 2010 i met a gentleman

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by the name of dr john hall he's the author of two books the first one is a new breed satellite terrorism

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in america and the second one is called guinea pigs technologies of control in which he writes about

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my efforts that i've done across the united states which eventually took me around the world

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and what that topic was pertaining to uh was that i was at a conference and i met dr hall and we got on

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a topic that he was seeing individuals who were complaining about unusual symptoms and what was

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most disturbing is they said that they were hearing these strange acute onset of sounds that were

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verberizing verberating through their head followed by short-term long-term memory loss brain fog

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and what they would describe as vibrations through their body which is more defined as electrical shocks

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uh recently the department of homeland security on may 8th of 2024 held a hearing with regard to this

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phenomenon and the reason they held the hearing is because they were having complaints from

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diplomats or u.s diplomats in havana cuba in 2016 and their complaints were very similar to what dr hall

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uh was talking about acute onset of strange sounds in their head and um followed by short-term long-term memory loss

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and uh cute on and and then these electrical shots to the extremities

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and um that was followed by um colonel greg edgren uh giving testimony at the department of homeland

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securities hearing saying that this phenomenon is very real and it is happening in our homeland not

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only is it happening to our u.s diplomats it's happening to our best of the best in the cia the best of the best in

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the fbi and now it is happening to congressional members the only uh shortfall is that when they

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were asked if this was happening civilians none of the witnesses would directly answer that question

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they deferred that they only analyze federal employee cases and their family members which inadvertently

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means that their family members are u.s citizens and civilians and so therefore that means that it is

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happening to civilians so let's go back to 2010 when we're talking about dr hall um i asked him

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sorry before you go to that when you were saying that they were they were looking at you know the

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family members was there any conclusions or did they come to any conclusions with those reports

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where did they did they find that their family members were also affected or did did they come

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or was it the report inconclusive no i actually know firsthand um straight from the horse's mouth

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about uh three months ago i had a head doctor of a three-letter agency contact me about our work

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work and he is currently treating 338 uh federal employees and some of those being their family

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members wow so because those families like for example what happened with cuba you know there was a

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lot of these uh officials that were saying they were getting sick and that's why they call it the havana

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syndrome but then if you're saying that it's also affecting their family members who weren't in cuba

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correct so then the question is how yeah in some cases they were in some cases they weren't

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yeah so how are the ones that were you know and this is kind of more of a rhetorical question here

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but it's like how were the family members that didn't go to cuba have these symptoms if they

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weren't even there to begin with so i don't know it's just a weird it's it's an interesting question

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right yeah yeah but we're gonna answer i'm gonna answer that question for you right i figured you would

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so yeah going back to 2010 uh with dr hall i asked well um he said uh well he figured if they were

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hearing the signal we must have some way to detect it and so he was doing what was called a preliminary

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uh what we now call a preliminary rf scan basically he used the same methodology that a very famous private

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investigator by the name of melinda kidder who was involved in the i ran contra uh investigations

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she uses these these exact same types of devices and one of them was a jm20 pro rf detector and he was

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doing testing around their person and they were coming up positive of very specific focal areas

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around the human body and so i said well isn't that proof enough to send them to their doctors and and

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and at least get help and he said no what was happening back then is that they were being railroaded into

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the mental health industry and then forced medicated and being further victimized and and so i said well

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there's got to be some way to to gather this data and make it tangible so i decided to create at that

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time the international center against the abuse of covert technologies with the help of a couple other

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gentlemen um at the time it was large regard and a gentleman by the name of peter rosenhall

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so i wanted to see just how many people were out there having these symptoms and so i held a meeting in

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sacramento california and to my surprise um because i only expected maybe a handful maybe six six to ten

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people 100 people showed up at that first meeting all complaining of the exact same complaints with

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very very little deviation so i knew we were onto something and so i just said okay now we're going to

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do this rf testing on a mass scale which would include um surveys so that we can gather statistical

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data and we held our first meeting in davis california and to our surprise 300 people showed up to that

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meeting and what the data began to show is that um the people who were most prevalent uh to suffer from

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this were caucasian females in their 40s recently single widowed or divorced and and there's a reason

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for that and i'll get into that later uh followed by african-american females african-american males

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um asians hispanics and it dwindled down in ethnicity from there we went to the midwest uh with the

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exact same statistical results and then and it flipped a little bit when we got into chicago

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the african-american criteria and caucasian criteria flipped and that stayed consistent

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all the way to the east coast with one exception and that was in virginia which we were recently

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at and a group of individuals found out what i was doing and asked me to come do testing there

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and these were all military subcontractors all expressing these exact same complaints now colonel

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egrin says that this phenomenon is real and it is designed um as a slow kill it's very methodically

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meant to make a person feel like they're crazy and this is what they labeled as the havana syndrome

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or anomalous health incidences is now what the technical term that they're referring it to

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and my journey uh not only took me across the united states but i was invited by a european government

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to come and test uh their u.s diplomats and family members and they asked me to bring along anyone who

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i felt most definitely was a victim of this phenomenon and what they allowed me to use as a research facility

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i had to sign an nda but it was called an anechoic chamber and it was this and these things are millions

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and millions of dollars and so i jumped at the opportunity because this was rated to block out

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frequencies between nine kilohertz and 18 gigahertz we knew that the frequencies that we were detecting

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were well within this and our suspicion was what a little different than what the the government is

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portraying they're saying that this is caused by a directed energy weapon so this means that someone

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has to be aiming a beam at you and so that you would have these symptoms but the problem was is a

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lot of these diplomats were saying that they were getting this in their vehicles and their homes and a

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restaurant no matter where they went so our theory was based on the data that we were collecting

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because the victims in the united states were saying they couldn't escape it and we even took some of

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them down into deep cap granite caverns miles down into the earth where there were no frequencies for

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cell phone transmission radio transmission or anything and even down into the earth we were detecting

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these frequencies so this led us to have a theory that there's something special about these individuals

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that allows them to receive the signal and our theory was that it had to be internally within them

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and so when we went to europe and we tested everyone we used control groups those who weren't

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complaining of these symptoms and they were getting a frequency readings of zero but when we put in those who

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were symptomatic we were detecting frequencies in those exact areas that they tested positive in

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the preliminary rf scans that we were doing across the united states now the reason i became a master

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hypnotist was because i noticed that those who were most affected we're talking i had doctors losing

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million dollar businesses because they were just going and telling everyone what they're experiencing

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and when you start saying you're hearing strange sounds you're going to be diagnosed with a mental

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disorder and then you're not going to be allowed to touch patients anymore so this is what was happening

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and so what we decided to do uh is get them in that anechoic chamber and when we were detecting those

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frequencies it was at that point that we can conclude that for whatever reason that there were

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anomalous signals being emitted from their person and that was very exciting for us because then it

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allowed us to go to the next step and the next step was and i'm going to share this with everyone

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is what we were finding and i'm going to share my screen

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hopefully you can see my screen yeah we could see it well we can see it but there's nothing there yet

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oh there it is okay okay and this is going to be one of our earliest clients

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and this is now i can disclose her name because she has been um on redactions for many many years we

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haven't disclosed her name but this gal's name is bonnie keller b and what we were pulling out is

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um this is a photo mycographic report on three specimens that were removed from her person

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at areas where she came up positive on a preliminary rf scan and there was a chain of custody and what

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this report speaks of these were foreign body specimens made of advanced materials and those advanced

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materials happen to be uh made of of micro electronics approaching the nano size and this is what they look

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like i'll show you here wow this is a a nano a nano wire this is the actual implant and our bodies do not

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reject them and um and they come in various shapes and sizes and here is another one that was removed from her

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jesse what what like what would be this like how is there anything you can compare this to like a size

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i mean like you know like for example if you take like a grain of rice is this smaller than a grain of

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rice roughly around the same these were smaller than a grain of rice but i'm going to show you

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the size of these things um back in late to oh i'm sorry um i'll get to that this is actually an mri scan

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and this is an rfid chip that you can clearly see the cylinder

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here you actually can see the coil that's made within that so this is another person that is suffering

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from this phenomenon and this is the one i want to show everyone because you were asking about size

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yes and this this is let me see if i can enlarge this a little bit for you

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this is the dave larson case he was a politician out of southern california

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who fell victim to this phenomenon and you can see here clearly that this is two letters on a penny

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this is actually an implant that was pulled out in late 90s they come in various sizes this one's

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like four or five letters 90s yes whoa yes late 90s he had over 10 of these removed from his person

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and you can um you can do the research you can look up the dave larson report all the chain of

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custody was done there and and he had a bunch of these and what these do is they transmit

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telemetry medical telemetry data so live data about what your body's doing like things like heart rate

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metabolism breathing um cellular metabolism blood sugars all kinds of data about your person

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um this is the technology it's here and now the other thing go ahead let me ask you a real quick

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question how or who i mean i'm sure you're going to get to this but who and how are how is this

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getting into people's bodies like who's putting them in in there okay so in in the larson case

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these were injected in him with the needle um he sued and he lost and the reason he lost the judge

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threw it out because he unknowingly uh signed up to be in an experiment and the problem was is that

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they did not give him full disclosure and any lack thereof of full disclosure is deception and because i

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know if he was fully informed that he would never have done this here's another case no and here's

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another case this is the bob boyce case bob boyce case was an uh he was an inventor and i was on the

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phone with him and he said to me that he thought he was going to die he was he was diagnosed with terminal

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cancer and he was an inventor of a high efficiency engine and he was in a one day he was at work in a

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faraday cage which is a smaller version of the anechoic chamber that we used in europe and he

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used the same type of frequency detectors that we use and it pinged when it accidentally went by his

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shoulder so we thought it was odd when it got an x-ray and lo and behold in the x-ray they found this

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implant in one of the tumors this is the cancerous tumor if you look down here at the tweezers this is

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your traditional rfid chips this is a large size of a large grain of rice so that that was that was

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inside of the tumor this was inside of the tumor do you think that's what caused the tumor i mean i mean

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bob bob believes that it is what causes the tumor and there are back then there were a lot of cases

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that um showed that there was an increase in cancers if you had this in you and this that there

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was a study done on on animals dogs cats and they were firing higher incidences of these cancerous

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tumors in in the animals back then so um it's it's not a far-fetched conclusion to say that

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this rfid chip is what caused bob's cancer so he had the surgery done they removed it and went to

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pathology and i asked him i go bob well where's the implant because my curiosity was is that i know

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that you can get a serial number off of these and he said it disappeared and i said well that's not

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surprising but he was happy enough that his cancer had subsided um and so you know he felt that he was

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going to live but it came back very aggressively so he immediately got back into the faraday cage

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and uh re-scanned his person and he found a second chip and this time they used chain of custody

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and they removed it and the electronic serial number was traced back to an nsa database interestingly

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enough his business partner um he explained to me one day bob was at his office and he loves mountain

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dew and his business partner brought him a mountain dew and then strangely enough bob woke up three days

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later in his office not knowing uh what had happened and his his partner was a former nsa employee

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so he strongly believes that it was his business partner who did this to him and and that's yeah so

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where we're at today is with the savannah syndrome is that um we are now doing we have cases that are

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working their way up to the court system in which these um implants have been pulled out of other

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cases which we have did an rf scan on um and one of these cases happens to be on the east coast

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and um it's working its way up through the system most of the time these court cases get thrown out

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because people position this as a civil rights violation and for whatever strange reason they're

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being thrown out they took a different approach on this court case and approached it as a personal

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injury because now we have the smoking gun we have the bullet and and that's really what needed to be

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obtained because everything else is really subjective as colonel egren said this is made to to make a

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person look like they're crazy and feel like they're crazy because there's no way to prove it

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in traditional medicine these things are now at this yeah go ahead real quick question here um

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what do you think this technology does other than um send back uh feedback for medical

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telemetry like what what else do you think that it does like like i know some people you know claim

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that you know they have these like memories that are so far-fetched do you think that they're able to

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like put in false memories or can you kind of like talk about that yeah so that's a very good question and um

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interestingly enough there's a couple of uh classified reports that have been declassified

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and one of them is this report here so this is a report from the around early 70s and this is titled

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individual rights and the federal role in behavior modification a study prepared by the staff of the

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subcommittee of constitutional rights of the committee on the judiciary united states senate 93rd congress

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second session november of 1974. now i'm going to go to a highlighted area and basically this was all

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about mind control and behavior modification and unfortunately they the united states is known

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to experiments on its own the tsisigi experiments the um the nuclear nuclear exposure to radiation

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um the lsd experiments oh yeah the lsd yeah i mean that the the cia came out and had to actually

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apologize for the experiments that they were doing and you know unknowingly on people so yeah and if you

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go back to you and cameron who was a canadian psychiatrist and that lawsuit is still going on today

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um where he was paid by the u.s government to experiment on an experiment on adults to see whether or not you can

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erase their memories and re-imprint new memories and he would do things like electrical shock therapy

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induced uh sleep through drug drug induction and he would do think a thing called in its infancy

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psychic driving and psychic driving he would put a helmet over their head and he would play themes over

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and over and over again with the tape recorder and he really messed people up so where did all this come

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from um today we basically have this on steroids and we'll get into that a little bit later but i'm

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going to read something to you now this is that that document by our federal government in the 70s

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says within our electrophysiological laboratories we presently have the capability of programming

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a wide weight of audio visual stimuli with current recordings of heart rate both directly and in beats per

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minute galvanic skin responses changes uh electromyographic responses and alpha and beta brain waves

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we presently are in the process of developing portable biofeedback devices which can be used

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for self-monitoring the planned use of a number of satellite facilities outside of ucla notably at

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tescadero chema chema rio and vacaville state hospitals raise additional questions of control

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and it made it more difficult to monitor carefully the activities of the csrv moreover vacaville and

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atascadero were state facilities that attracted substantial notoriety for allegedly unethical

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procedures over the past several years moreover among the principal figures involved in the formulation

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of plans for the center were a number of controversial researchers in the field of behavioral control

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technology notably several psychosurgeons and proponents of electrophysiological methods of behavior

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control one was a researcher who had conducted substantial research into methods of electronic

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control of human behavior and here's where it gets interesting now this was the early 70s

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including the use of rays radio transmitter receivers to determine the location activities and even thoughts

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of the individual using the device and that's pretty profound because i don't even think anyone would

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have to fathom that we had this technology in the early 70s and now what we're dealing with

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is even more robust and what i'm going to read next is the new world vistas report now this is a declassified document

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by our united states air force that was created by the best of our best minds in the military to

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keep the united states air force's superpower 50 years into the future and this was obtained in 1995 but it was

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released in november of 1994 and this is the events technical information center

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and again titled new world vistas air and space power for the 21st century wow and i'm going to just read

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the highlight so this is this is a 225 page report but this is page 89 and i'm specifically going to this

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because it addresses exactly how this was pre-planned this is titled biological processes control and it

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appears likely that there are a number of physical agents that might actively but largely benignly

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interact or interfere with biological processes and an adversary in a manner that will provide our armed

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forces the tools to control these adversaries without extensive loss of life or property these

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physical agents could include acoustic fields optical fields electromagnetic fields and combinations

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thereof this paper will address only the prospect of physical regulation and biological processes

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using electromagnetic fields prior to the mid-21st century there will be a virtual explosion

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of knowledge in the field of neuroscience we will have achieved a clear understanding of how the

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human brain works how it really controls the various functions of the body and how it can be

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manipulated both positively and negatively one can envision the development of electromagnetic energy

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sources the output of which can be pulsed shaped and focused that can couple with the human body in a

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fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular movements control emotions and thus actions

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reduce sleep transmit suggestions interfere with both short-term and long-term memory

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plot memories produce an experience set and delete an experience set this will open the door for the

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development of some novel capabilities can be used in armed conflict in terrorist hostage situations and in training

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new weapons that offer the opportunity of control of an adversary without resorting to a lethal solution or to the

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or to the collateral casualties can be developed around this concept this would offer significant

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improvements in the capabilities of our special operations forces initial experimentation should be

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focused on the interaction of electromagnetic energy and the neuromuscular junctions involved in voluntary

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muscle control it would appear yes go ahead could you explain that in like layman's terms what that means for

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everybody what you just read yeah um yes let me read this last paragraph and i'll just bring it all into

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layman's terms and a brief synopsis and it says this last paragraph is really important because this is

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where we're at it says it would appear also it would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in

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the human body remember a lot of these people are hearing voices raising the possibility of covert suggestion and

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psychological direction when a high power microwave pulse in the gigahertz range strikes the human body

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a very small temperature perturbation occurs this is associated with a sudden expansion of slightly heated

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tissues this expansion is fast enough to produce an acoustic wave if a pulse stream is used it should be

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possible to create an internal acoustic field in the 5 to 15 kilohertz range which is audible thus it may be

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possible to talk to the selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them

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in comparison the discussion in this paragraph above the concept of imprinting an experience set is highly

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speculative but nonetheless highly exciting modern electromagnetic scattering theory raises the

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prospect of ultra short short pulse scattering through the human brain that can result in reflective signals that can

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signals that can produce that can be used to construct a reliable estimate of degree of the central nervous

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system arousal the concept behind the eeg remote scattering uh off of action potentials or ensembles of

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action potentials in major central nervous system tracks assuming we will understand our skills are imprinted and

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recalled it might be possible to take this concept one step further and duplicate an experience set in another individual

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so what are we saying here basically they're saying that they can

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affect your memory they can imprint memory sets now as a hypnotherapist let's take this technology apart

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away just use utilizing language 30 of the population is highly suggestible according to

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statistics now you put this in someone who's highly suggestible you can essentially have

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um a remote human you can imprint memory sets take a memory set from another person and put it in

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them and they would know not know the difference that they did not experience it themselves there would

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it would be virtually impossible to convince them and so this is what we're saying they have been

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and and what does this mean this is mass manipulation on a global scale colonel eggren testified

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that this is happening on every continent with the exception of an arctica so two cases that come to

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mind the myron may case he was a united states soldier who called me one week before he did a horrible

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atrocity he called me complaining about these exact same symptoms and i expressed to him that this is a long

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road to toe it's not going to be a quick fix there are some certain steps that we need to do in order to

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get to proving what he's experiencing he didn't want to wait when this happens to someone it's either

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fight or flight in the beginning and he was a soldier so he's in fight mode and he went and killed 16 people

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on the east coast at the navy uh yard that was a navy yard shooting there's another case um the myron may

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case he was an attorney out of florida he called me uh and he was expressing these complaints

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and i said well again as i expressed to myron uh may i mean aaron alexis i'm sorry aaron alexis was

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the soldier i was gonna say alexis was a soldier myron may was the attorney and now my uh myron may

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called me um and and again expressed these same complaints as aaron did and he his exact words to

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me because i told him this is going to be a slow process he says i ain't got time for this i got

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bigger fish to fry and he went and he killed people at the research lab there so i just want to clarify

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aaron um aaron alexis was a soldier that killed the 16 people in the navy uh yard shooting and myron

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may was an attorney out of florida that killed people at the university there in the research lab

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and what did alex have on his gun uh he wrote yeah well um aaron alexis wrote this is my elf weapon in

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the butt of his gun so basically he was having this frequency admitted to him and and this is what we're

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dealing with today um we're dealing with a system that is basically out of control uh we technology

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has outpaced our laws and i don't think our forefathers ever fathom um that we would have this

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type of technology now my it is my sense that in early 2010 when we started doing this study

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um all the way to 2015 the united states was in its experimental phase but president putin said and

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he gave an uh an interview in the politico and he said the first superpower to master psychotronic

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weapons will be the superpower to rule the world and it is my strong belief that today that is what we're

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dealing with the united states have this has this technology russia has this technology and they were

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probably more advanced than us china has this technology and the uk has this technology and we

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believe india does now i think we've been hacked it makes no sense that we would go after the best of

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our best in the cia and the fbi uh our most talented u.s diplomats and now going after our u.s congressional

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members and this is where we're at today yeah and uh jesse can you talk a little bit about i know that

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you were talking you know some of your other videos about a a special op soldier what what frequencies

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was coming up with him yeah so yeah recently um uh we had a special op soldier who was complaining

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about having an unusual experience and so i said what the heck well why don't we just do a

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uh an rf scan on you a preliminary rf scan and to my surprise i he came up positive and so i advised

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that he needed to get what is called a non-linear junction scan so our process tests for active

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frequencies now there's things as active technology and passive and what the non-linear junction scan does

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it will test for passive technology that means for example an implant that is not firing off 24 7.

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and what it will do is it'll scan to see if there's ferrous material and if there's ferrous material it'll

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send a it sends out a first harmonic to test for the ferrous material and if it is it'll get a reflection

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back and send out a second harmonic which will turn it on and then a third harmonic they will get a

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frequency from it and that's what we had him do and to our surprise he came up positive in six locations

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but what's most interesting about his case is the frequency that was detected it was a frequency that

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we hadn't seen in the last 15 20 years that we've been doing this and when we went to see who owned that

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frequency i expected it to be the united states military but to our surprise it wasn't and that was even

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more disturbing and when we figured out who owned it and it actually came back that nato owned that

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the leasing rights on that frequency wow what does that mean the question is why does nato have

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the rights to a frequency that we're finding on a special ops soldier

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it go it you know it gets to gets you thinking to was this agenda this one world order or new world

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order agenda really um and it's being implemented are we in the midst of it and based on everything that

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had been happening up until recently it definitely looks like it and my suspicion with the change of

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this new administration all we've done is slowed it down but they're not going to stop

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wow that's yeah i've been um yeah i mean that's just all of this is just like mind-blowing right um

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i mean there's so many things that we can go from this direction like one you know i'm sure a lot of people

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are worried about themselves to see if you know if they have in this what can they do um the other

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question i kind of want to go i want to backtrack on something you said and i'm i'm not sure if i had

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this right it was like verde chamber or something like you mentioned it a couple times and i'm not

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yeah i'm not really sure what that is so and the anechoic chamber is what we used in

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uh europe it's an environment that's constructed to block out huge frequency spectrums and it's

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grounded the faraday cage which is in the bob boyce case is a smaller version of that not as robust

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but it's also grounded and it's built to block out certain frequency spectrums and that's why bob

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boyce was using it because he wanted to make sure that the inventions that he was working on was not having

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too much rf leakage i see now for for the other question for just like an ordinary citizen out

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there if they feel like they have these symptoms or are concerned about this what can they do to

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get checked or follow up with this to um get scanned themselves like like what can they do about this

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themselves yeah if you're suffering from this or you believe that this phenomenon is happening to you

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what we do is we coach individuals on what others have done who have been successful who had these

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exact symptoms and ultimately led to surgery and having bio implants being pulled out of them

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and so what we do is we do a preliminary rf scan the very same thing that melinda kidder was doing

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mm-hmm that dr hall was doing on a sporadic basis what we've just done is we've fine-tuned the process

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and we are now doing clinics across the united states my focus was initially just to educate the general

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population about this phenomenon but i had no idea just how many people still are suffering from this

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and we're finding more and more every day so we wanted a way that we can help more more people than

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just a few and so we've started a tour we started in washington dc during the inauguration we just

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finished up in north carolina this week uh we'll be in houston the following week we're going to be over

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in tampa and um that's really going to be the opportunity where a lot of people are going to be

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able to get scanned um because we're going to be there for many days and so if you're interested

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uh in getting a preliminary rf scan please go to our website and and and sign up or send an inquiry

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what's the website and that is um www.mindnexuslive.com mindnexuslive.com

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um and just get on our email list and send an inquiry that you're interested in attending uh the

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tampa clinic what's the tampa clinic jesse it's uh can you get the dates um the dates for the tampa

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clinic i believe are the weekend of the the 8th and 9th yes yeah yeah and this is the website right

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here and uh if you if you scroll back up uh ben there's where it will be uh where it says um um

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services click on services and then there's uh the scanning there and also there are contact

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information if you wanted to like reach out to send us an email or just get on our emailing list

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yeah there you go okay yeah so anybody watching this can can view this and what what's the dates

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that you are you you so if you go back yeah if you go back to uh just click down services go to rf

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testing scroll all the way down um it's going to be the next one i'm sorry the next one over go to

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services oh yeah and then and then rf pricing rf pricing and then scroll all the way down and then

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those that's the schedule there we go so yeah january uh you're gonna yeah you were in dc

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everywhere yeah and then february you'll be in texas tampa and then ontario on texas as well

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and antonio texas again san antonio sorry i missed the second part yeah yeah so yeah but cypress texas

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is basically the houston the houston area so if you're in the houston area you're close enough to attend

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one of those scannings and just reach out quickly um yeah because i'm on a plane in two days yeah yeah

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and jesse can you go a little bit in more detail on what the scanning is and uh for our audience

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yeah so what we utilize is a an rf detector it's called the jam 20 pro and that'll test to see if

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there's any frequencies around your person and i want everyone to understand these aren't just random

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areas that are popping up positive these are very specific focal areas around the human person

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you can literally take those who are having the ahis or havana syndrome type symptoms or claim that they

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are superimpose them over each other and they're exactly the same then there's a military group who

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come up positive you can take their scans superimpose them over each other and they line up exactly the

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same and then there's another group those who have been incarcerated you can line them up they're

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slightly different and they line up exactly the same um there there's very little deviation and when

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there is deviation it's because they've had some type of surgery or medical procedure now i don't want

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anyone to think that um the medical community is knowingly doing this but if you were to google what

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percentage of our medicines are made out the united states i think you'd be shocked it's actually

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95 percent and that is a national security issue that needs to be fixed asap so we use the gen am20 pro

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to test for a frequency emission around your person and and we'll tag that and then we'll come back with

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and a seiko um is which is a frequency counter it's a device that will actually we use a wand and it'll give

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us the exact frequency in that area that we detected a positive rf we also use spectrum analyzers so that

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we can get baselines on whatever frequencies are in those environments and then uh we'll have the person

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walk into the environment to see if there's any changes and if there is we'll have them walk back out

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um so that we can prove that there's a correlation between them being in the environment and then being

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extricated from the environment so it's all videotaped and we do a report uh to substantiate um the results

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of the testing and then we'll coach you on what others have done that have been successful and getting

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implants removed wow yeah that would be my next question it's like if if people are positive or

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confirm that they have one of these inside of them is there a process to get these removed can they get

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yeah moved yeah so i want to be really careful about what we say okay just because you come up positive

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on an rf scan you can't say that you have implants and i preface this wholeheartedly because what

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individuals have been doing has been saying oh i came up positive on rf scan that means i have an implant

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you can't do that um because you're going to get one shot at this and if you're going to if you're

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going to go all the way and fight this you need to make sure you're bulletproof so once you get an rf

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scan you can only um attest to what the equipment is designed to do it's only designed to test for

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frequency emissions so we can say that there are positive frequency emissions then you go to the

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non-linear junction scan which is a secondary scan and you have an independent tester another independent

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tester and if they test you on that and you come up with overlapping results that's significant

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those who have been in this the longest those have a better chance of utilizing traditional medicine

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with imagery like mri scans x-rays ultrasounds ct scans those type of uh assessments and and and see

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if there's a correlation in the areas that you come up positive but because we you now see that we're now

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in the nano size and nano size is one millionth of a millimeter you're not going to see this to

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traditional medicine the only way to see these uh detect these things is through technology and this is

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why we say um that medicine is not taught about this so therefore you're going to have to use a

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different modality to help you prove that this is um happening and and this is why that head doctor of

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that three letter agency called me um he he said to me he says jesse there's significant overlap which means

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that the symptoms are lining up but the the reason he said he contacted me is because we are pulling out

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implants and i i said to him you know i was just wanting to offer um uh hopefully a solution um because

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i know this is outside the scope of medicine and i'm not sure if they've even thought about doing this to

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uh for his patients but um i said if i can offer any help and and that's all i'm looking for because

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he he thought that dr hall and i were we're looking for recognition and that's not what we are we're

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doing this truly to sincerely get out there and help people and um and we want to engage the general

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population because the the community that has been suffering from this in the civilian basis

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really has been under their own umbrella and they have been shunned they've been blacklisted

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um they've been labeled as tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists um just uh basically railroaded and smeared

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not only in media um but in just in general as being people who need to be medicated and so i have this

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overwhelming question how many people in the mental health industry have been misdiagnosed and because

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of the arrogance in the mental health industry what is the liability there so there has to be

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um a meeting where we break bread um it's okay to admit you're wrong but it's not okay to victimize

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people and and this is our effort and we're we're on a mission and we have some great things that are on

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the horizons and i don't know if i should even talk about that desiree but um that's up to you you if

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you think i should or shouldn't um but we are on a campaign to globally educate the population about

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this topic very cool very cool um yeah i'm definitely looking forward to all of that as well

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um question i have um so like is anybody doing anything about this within the government like

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for example the department of homeland security have they said anything about this phenomenon or even

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people's symptoms of these things or even acknowledge anything well they acknowledge it's happening to

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federal employees only but um now when we were doing our initial study back in the early

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you know 2012 to 15 um we were doing that without the label of ahi or havana syndrome it didn't exist

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then um now it is happening we we know that they're acknowledging it is happening to federal

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employees who have been diagnosed with havana syndrome mm-hmm what i'm excited about is now

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there are civilians who are being diagnosed with havana syndrome and when we were on the east coast i can

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tell you so far now this is preliminary so far 100 of those individuals who have been diagnosed those

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civilians who have been diagnosed with havana syndrome have come up positive on a preliminary rf scan wow wow

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wow wow that's exciting so we encourage the population to please please come out if if you want to get

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scanned and you can uh you know you have the resources to do it particularly if you've been diagnosed with

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havana syndrome we want to see you it's so important right okay jesse is uh i think we should wrap it up

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unless you guys have anything else you guys want to say um i guess one final question jesse you know

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what what what what's like your drive in this you know what why what have you why have you dedicated

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your life to get this information out there and to alert people of what's going on well that's a good

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question this is personal to me um back when i i was the um field supervisor operation manager at night

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for the private ambulance companies um back in the early 90s and i was training another supervisor out

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in the field and a call came over the radio for a high-speed pursuit and my intuition told me that

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something unusual was going to happen with this high-speed pursuit so i advise them let's go head over to the

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area and law enforcement ended up stopping this gentleman and it happened to be a father and his four-year-old

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girl in the back seat um this was a custody issue he just wanted to see his daughter what ended up

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happening is law enforcement ended up dragging out of the car beat the crap out of him and killed him

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him running my eyes and then one of the officers came to um to me and said that guy needs your help

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so asked us to resuscitate him i ended up starting the ivy and i can remember to this day it'll never

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leave me the fear in that little girl's eyes looking in that back seat but that's when

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this story began i tried to report it and i was told to keep my mouth shut or i'd be killed

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and the company would be blacklisted i was a young man wife newly married wife was pregnant my first

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child and um it came back to haunt me back then i wish it would have followed through but it came back to

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haunt me because law enforcement caught wind that i was talking about this incident and as you all know

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there's no statute of limitations on murder but uh this happened to me um i was in a dental office

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for just a a routine checkup and i was knocked out and i awoke drowning in my saliva many hours later

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but when i left i started to have this phenomena and i knew as a paramedic um if i were to go and

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complain about the symptoms back then um they wouldn't have fared too well for me

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so i decided to go on this campaign of evidence gathering and this is how we're here today

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wow incredible yeah wow well you know i think i i i think your work's gonna definitely pay off and

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uh i mean there's so many people that that um i believe you're going to be helping through all of

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this and have helped as well so um you know i thank you for what you're doing and being brave to come out

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to tell the world the truth yeah thank you i have no choice yeah there's no choice in this matter

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this is about our children our children's children our great grand children this is about your lineage

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your genealogy um and this is ultimately about whether you decide to stay free as a human species

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or do you want to become a complete slave to the system and that's what we're facing and fighting

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right it's like transhumanism that they're pushing yeah but this is

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well okay well did you want to add anything else anybody

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no okay all right well thank you so much everybody please visit our website again that's

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www.mindnexuslive.com and i'll also put that in the description and thank you so much everybody goodbye

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thank you so much bye now jesse thanks for being here it's great great interview thank you

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you're welcome stay strong