1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,300 all right aloha everyone michelle with blossom inner wellness and stand together hawaii.com 2 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:16,500 and i am so excited about interviewing robert today he has been most of his life he's been a 3 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:21,620 botanist for 48 years he's been studying plants and trees and i'm going to actually let him 4 00:00:21,620 --> 00:00:26,840 give you his background but we're going to be talking about he's also been studying how many 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,820 how many locations have you gone to or pictures have you studied over the past what is it seven 6 00:00:31,820 --> 00:00:38,420 years uh you gave a number when when i saw your interview last i've been to 38 fire after mass 7 00:00:38,420 --> 00:00:45,460 mostly in california a few in southern oregon and taken 107 trips to all of them so i've done a lot 8 00:00:45,460 --> 00:00:52,480 of footwork collecting evidence at every site except perhaps three that i deemed were normal 9 00:00:52,480 --> 00:01:00,900 forest fires that we know of all the rest so else wow so yeah something else so robert um just share 10 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:05,920 a little bit more about your background and uh and we'll just start from there well i started learning 11 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:13,780 plants in the late 60s from my mom and when i turned 15 i had horticulture classes and forestry classes in 12 00:01:13,780 --> 00:01:20,720 high school and i've never stopped learning about the plant kingdom uh 48 years now of learning trees 13 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:26,920 shrubs shrubs vines wildflowers and ferns mostly california natives but many imported around the 14 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:33,200 world to our residential homes um and i think before i left high school i knew every tree in california 15 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:42,020 which doesn't isn't all that hard um and then um became an arborist for 20 years and let that lapse 16 00:01:42,020 --> 00:01:49,080 because i was going beyond some of the areas they wanted to talk about and reclassified myself with my 17 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:55,320 own term forensic arborist because that's what i feel i am now i've been to 38 after mass like i said 18 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:02,160 and 107 trips to all these in the last seven years and uh somewhere along the line i was designing a 19 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:08,460 hike up north in santa rosa maybe an hour away and some pictures came up on the internet that didn't 20 00:02:08,460 --> 00:02:13,880 compute to me and i'm going to share my screen here i'm going to show you some of those so that was about 21 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:19,120 seven years ago seven years ago you saw you saw a fire and you're just like what that doesn't look 22 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:25,600 normal so go ahead go yeah share you share your screen and um and as you do that i'm going to shut 23 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:33,120 our this glass door for for sound but keep going okay um what i saw was um something that didn't make 24 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:42,140 sense to me i saw this picture of santa rosa california um this came up on my computer screen 25 00:02:42,140 --> 00:02:46,900 because i'm looking for hikes and waterfalls and such and this came up and yeah all the houses are 26 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:52,680 missing they're white ash but what are all the trees doing there many of these are pines and eucalyptus 27 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:59,480 and very flammable leaves it just made no sense to me i've got a background of cooking 28 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:07,140 on campfires for my entire adult life from sea level to 12 13 000 feet in the sierra i've burned 29 00:03:07,140 --> 00:03:14,120 everything and everything burns in a tiny campfire and this is a horrific firestorm they said why are 30 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:20,040 all the trees still there so it didn't work well for me and i waited a couple months and i went up 31 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:27,400 there after things died down and i analyzed every street i could for eight hours nothing i mean nothing 32 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:34,260 added up i've never seen anything like in my life i was in my life i was completely baffled um 33 00:03:34,260 --> 00:03:40,980 and we'll get into the materials in the fine tuning of this in a minute here but um when i see forest 34 00:03:40,980 --> 00:03:45,220 fires the trees are burned up the needles are gone the twigs are gone many of the branches are gone 35 00:03:45,220 --> 00:03:51,720 sometimes the trunk is burned down halfway or all the way to a low stump and even holes in the ground 36 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:57,740 that's the way they burn no exception they don't leave their needles on there with their needles on 37 00:03:57,740 --> 00:04:05,980 there how do we even call it a fire a forest fire the forest didn't burn so i saw that and uh 38 00:04:05,980 --> 00:04:14,460 shortly after my uh journey i saw this picture on the internet from a drone possibly and i see these 39 00:04:14,460 --> 00:04:19,400 buildings a jack-in-the-box mcdonald's and a gas station and they're just completely burned 40 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:26,280 leaving only metals and stone but what i see is the trees uh all three species here are in the 41 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:34,880 poison oak family uh chinese pistache or pistachio african sumac and uh brazilian pepper i'm sorry 42 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:42,260 peruvian pepper which is now called california pepper all of them did not burn and how did a fire 43 00:04:42,260 --> 00:04:50,920 across a freeway this is highway 101 in the santa rosa area you got a 200 yards of no trees before 44 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:57,300 you get to these buildings but yet they burned and nothing else and anybody's gone to a fast food 45 00:04:57,300 --> 00:05:02,820 you notice there's no wood showing it's all plastics and metals and slate and terracotta and 46 00:05:02,820 --> 00:05:09,720 newer building materials fires don't just start on these types of buildings but yet there's the 47 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:15,340 pictures even with the ambient heat from these buildings it didn't do much to the trees a fewer 48 00:05:15,340 --> 00:05:23,580 brown but i cannot say the trees burned up and this happened again and again and again and uh so i 49 00:05:23,580 --> 00:05:30,160 started analyzing fires everywhere and somewhere along the line i finally found a youtube video 50 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:37,240 of john lord and matt dakin who analyzed paradise california on three different occasions and who are 51 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:44,080 they uh they're both 30 year fire captains one out of petaluma and one out of sam ramon they were good 52 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:50,700 friends and they saw what i saw they did five good videos with uh shelly you can find them on youtube 53 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:57,640 and they saw all the anomalies that i saw so i left them a message on youtube they got back to me and we got 54 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:03,740 together and showed them all my work and they said i was exactly right and then over the last four or 55 00:06:03,740 --> 00:06:09,060 five years now i've been educating them on what trees actually grow in california which ones burns 56 00:06:09,060 --> 00:06:16,380 and which ones don't uh sadly a year and a half ago we lost john um he died of different types of 57 00:06:16,380 --> 00:06:22,820 problems um but they gave me a good start and introduced me to a lot of folks that know what's 58 00:06:22,820 --> 00:06:28,960 going on in this these fire scenarios so what do you think is going on in these fire scenarios when 59 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:34,560 when when firefighters or captains are questioning things just the same as you are yeah when they get 60 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:40,600 out and question them um not many of them i think will speak up yeah because they're afraid of 61 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:46,420 retribution somehow either getting fired or something worse many of the top fire people know exactly 62 00:06:46,420 --> 00:06:51,400 what's going on when you don't see the forest burn but yet houses are and some of these materials 63 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:57,160 don't burn you have to ask your question you know what is going on here and many of the fire 64 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:02,900 captains and other workers have said we've never seen fires like this or the fires were so hot we 65 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:09,200 couldn't even get close to them to put them out and they were also very hard to put out and so over 66 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:16,140 the years i've come to different conclusions i believe most of these fires are microwave based 67 00:07:16,140 --> 00:07:22,440 they're not normal wood fires that we know of and i'll get into that later here okay thank you 68 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:28,760 many materials will not burn and i have a saying i made up all the materials that didn't burn 69 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:37,540 should have and all the materials that did burn shouldn't have um that's true and i want to start 70 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:43,180 off uh this is in maui now i've taken some of the pictures off the internet here so none of these 71 00:07:43,180 --> 00:07:50,040 maui pictures are mine um and i'm going to expand on every one of these pictures and this is the same 72 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:57,300 stuff exactly that i've seen in california no different all the same uh fire footprints things 73 00:07:57,300 --> 00:08:04,000 that don't make sense here a home's on fire and nothing else and i believe that's because of all 74 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:11,300 the metals whether they're ferrous or non-ferrous that are in a house these things get hit they burn 75 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:16,380 and it's rare to see a tree burn or any plant unless it's in very close proximity to the house 76 00:08:16,380 --> 00:08:23,800 and i mean 10 or 15 feet uh so this is common now here you have it looks like a grove of 77 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:29,580 eucalyptus trees i'm not positive on the species the whole left they didn't burn meanwhile the house 78 00:08:29,580 --> 00:08:38,460 is just gone the cars they all look like this they'll be dented up uh the windows will be melted out 79 00:08:38,460 --> 00:08:45,620 now the auto glass melts approximately at 2500 degrees whoa forest fires don't get that hot 80 00:08:45,620 --> 00:08:52,920 it's like a forest fire goes up to 1400 yeah i was gonna say 1400 wow and also the wind the wheels 81 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:58,240 the wheels are melted yeah yeah i'm getting to that and uh unless you're adding different accelerants or 82 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,660 really burning some hot wood you're not getting above those temperatures perhaps here and there you 83 00:09:02,660 --> 00:09:08,940 would but it would not melt these windows uh you notice the doorknobs are always gone the rims they're 84 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:16,220 an alloy or an aluminum they melt out at 1221 degrees that doesn't happen um your fires on the 85 00:09:16,220 --> 00:09:20,940 ground that are in the grass if they're a couple inches off the ground they're only 200 i'm sorry 86 00:09:20,940 --> 00:09:28,240 300 degrees the two fire captains educated me on that they never see rims melted out in a combined 87 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:34,680 60 years of service sometimes you'd get to a car late in the day because they were busy and the car 88 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:42,020 fire was already out the rims still didn't melt out yet i've seen a good between 600 and 800 vehicles 89 00:09:42,020 --> 00:09:48,020 if the rims are aluminum or alloys they're always melted out either in chunks like this one or in 90 00:09:48,020 --> 00:09:55,600 flowing aluminum puddles that uh flow away like a river away from the vehicle windows and rims always 91 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:03,220 gone unless they're metal rims um let's see so look at your organic matter what kind of forest fire 92 00:10:03,220 --> 00:10:08,580 forgot all the trees it's and you said something about the eucalyptus before we started eucalyptus 93 00:10:08,580 --> 00:10:14,340 is one of the most flammable or combustible leaves i know of here in the states california we have many 94 00:10:14,340 --> 00:10:21,400 species and the blue gum is the one i see the most i can pull the leaves off the tree green take a 95 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:27,780 cigarette lighter and light them on fire every time and they burn pretty if you put them in a small 96 00:10:27,780 --> 00:10:34,420 campfire you better back up these things the oils in them are very flammable and also your california 97 00:10:34,420 --> 00:10:40,940 bay tree which is in your laurel family along with camphor trees and avocado trees and many others 98 00:10:40,940 --> 00:10:46,780 the california bay tree has a ton of oils when i'm camping in the bay area these are different 99 00:10:46,780 --> 00:10:52,300 parks and i can hardly see my campsite i want to find my way back to my tent i grab some those leaves 100 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:59,600 put them in my little campfire instantly i've got big flames everywhere in seven years now i've not 101 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:06,820 seen one leaf of either species burn any eucalyptus species and any of the california bay leaves even 102 00:11:06,820 --> 00:11:13,260 when the leaves are hanging down on the ground where the fire is they're not igniting oh my gosh so 103 00:11:13,260 --> 00:11:19,860 i'm curious about that because use a microwave microwave waves to to create fire create such a 104 00:11:19,860 --> 00:11:24,840 hot fire that's so interesting of why they wouldn't burn but that's a whole different topic 105 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,940 go ahead and keep going yeah all i can say is they don't recognize the organics even though they're 106 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:35,380 super hot they seem to be much hotter than our regular wood fires but for whatever reason they're 107 00:11:35,380 --> 00:11:40,720 not recognizing organics they turn everything brown they suck the water out of it like it's in a 108 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,440 microwave oven in your kitchen leave them brown light a light shaded green but it will not ignite 109 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:51,800 them unless they're in close proximity to metals or you're talking about the fire the fire doesn't 110 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:59,000 recognize that's right the eucalyptus organism though the oh my gosh the organics of that organism wow 111 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,520 it has to be in close proximity to your metals whether they're ferrous or non-ferrous like aluminum 112 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:10,980 or creeks and water and i heard along the shore here the water was on fire and they made up a lame 113 00:12:10,980 --> 00:12:16,720 excuse that there's oil and diesel and all that no the water itself was on fire and i haven't seen 114 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:22,020 pictures of it but i've already heard that uh so your creek beds around here in california i've noticed 115 00:12:22,020 --> 00:12:29,440 all the creek or water loving trees have burned from the inside out cooked cooked like in a microwave 116 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:36,800 and these are willows cottonwoods alder birch maple madrone and many others that really want to be 117 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:42,240 close to a creek not one leaf will be burned on them even when the leaves are on the ground but 118 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:48,320 they'll cook from the inside out where the highest water amount of holding capacity would be pines and 119 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:54,920 more flammable trees are doing the same but at a slower rate even though the sap in many pines is more 120 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,460 combustible than the water lovers by far they're kind of last to burn the needles will be brown 121 00:13:00,460 --> 00:13:08,500 everywhere but they're not burned up uh wrong picture there okay there it is here you look at 122 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:15,080 all the houses they're white ash where's the black where's the carbon it's rare i see black so you're 123 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:21,400 thinking intense heat well why are all the trees still there they're a little thin cooked again i'm sure 124 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:26,400 every one of them's dead perhaps some of the palm trees will come back a palm tree is easy to light 125 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:32,520 on fire we've had a few car fires around here on the freeway or in a residential under a palm tree 126 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:37,820 they burn up in a second they're like grass they're thin with a little bit of dead fronds on them 127 00:13:37,820 --> 00:13:43,640 they'll burn in seconds yet i look at them they're kind of super wilted they turn black which i see that 128 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:48,720 often there's a black color to all these dead trees leaves are black like that like a slow cooked 129 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:53,720 marshmallow on your fire it's kind of turning brown and dark black and then if it doesn't ignite 130 00:13:53,720 --> 00:14:00,420 these leaves just kind of wilt and turn dark colors another anomaly they should all been gone with this 131 00:14:00,420 --> 00:14:04,660 kind of heat everything should have been gone should have been stumps of trees that didn't happen and it 132 00:14:04,660 --> 00:14:11,600 should be black not white that's right um out of these 38 aftermaths i've been 35 of them i deem were 133 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:19,860 unnatural fires every house i've seen burn up all of them have been burned to the ground white ash i 134 00:14:19,860 --> 00:14:25,940 have not seen much of any black anywhere once in a while a four by four or something that's black but 135 00:14:25,940 --> 00:14:32,420 they're all white ash leaving walls you know brickwork stone and metals everything else is completely gone 136 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:39,380 yeah the toilet the the fridge the stove which i've seen you know houses in a firefighter uh world 137 00:14:39,380 --> 00:14:47,860 fire a wildfire and the stove is there it's the it doesn't go to ash that's right um dang it that 138 00:14:47,860 --> 00:14:52,320 didn't come out either this is the giant banyan tree i've heard about yeah it's beautiful hopefully 139 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:58,620 i've got another here you have a fire all the way around it even the boats were on fire yet the banyan 140 00:14:58,620 --> 00:15:05,040 tree's dead look it looks like but it didn't burn up i've got this here after the fire i see leaves 141 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:12,540 everywhere and all the aerial roots coming down they look kind of sagging and black not necessarily 142 00:15:12,540 --> 00:15:17,380 burned up and here's a wood pole to your left whether it's a splint or there's i think there's 143 00:15:17,380 --> 00:15:25,000 lights on it it was so hot i forgot to burn the wood dry dry wood dead trees i've noticed that are dead 144 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,900 before the fires they're not burning there's no moisture in them and they should have burned oh my 145 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:36,960 gosh so here's your wood four by four uh didn't burn at all it's doubtful this tree is going to grow 146 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,320 back i hope it does i know there's an arborist over there looking at it but if it's cooked from the 147 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:47,000 inside out it will not regenerate and this is a ficus you cut a ficus down it grows back 148 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:52,800 any fig tree this is the way they're constructed they're weeds all the ficus are weeds and here with 149 00:15:52,800 --> 00:16:00,020 your great soils and rainfall it should sprout right back but uh and i'm hoping it does but um 150 00:16:00,020 --> 00:16:08,200 i fear it probably won't um yeah here's a jeep i guess fires don't do this the whole hood it got so 151 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:15,440 hot the metal the metal hood melted out that's pushing 2750 degrees and the rims have melted out 152 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:21,380 in the street what kept the aluminum melting five feet from the jeep there's no firewood there there's 153 00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:28,300 no flames on the on the asphalt yet it keeps flowing uh they're completely gutted windows 154 00:16:28,300 --> 00:16:35,360 wheels this is common every fire aftermath i've gone to i want to say this is impossible 155 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:41,180 uh but the food two fire captains i know of they say they've never seen vehicles in their whole 156 00:16:41,180 --> 00:16:46,760 career like this uh windows are never melted they might break they don't even sag they break 157 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:54,120 or shatter or fall out but they don't melt that's 2500 degrees and and up they start to melt at 25 158 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,960 but to get them to really flow and fall down you know you're gonna add another 100 degrees or more 159 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:05,320 so what could do that you don't have enough fuel in this jeep and i don't mean gasoline i mean the 160 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:12,140 fuels the plastics the seats the cushions all that isn't enough to get this kind of burn and they 161 00:17:12,140 --> 00:17:17,560 always say that there's just no way this could happen not every single car i've seen in seven 162 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:24,820 years no exceptions that's the thing no exceptions if it happened to one okay that's an anomaly but 163 00:17:24,820 --> 00:17:31,600 every single vehicle here you go with eucalyptus and uh there's some pines on the left also house is 164 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:38,320 missing or a metal shop whatever it is uh i see dead trees but a firestorm would have left sticks 165 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:47,240 there'd be no leaves on it that's your fire the leaves like in california amazing what is going on 166 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:55,880 um i just got these today uh here's some nice trees here they're probably dead and there's your car 167 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:03,400 same old scenario it's the same wherever i go um so i have a question about the microwave energy 168 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:11,600 yep um do you have you looked into like i know that we've had direct energy weapons tesla's tesla 169 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,520 founded the direct energy beam actually in the 1930s right before he died when he was 80 years old 170 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:25,720 and we actually have an uh a direct energy weapons act and i think it was the act of uh 1976 i think it 171 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:34,820 was and um but so there are and there was actually a direct energy weapons um for lack of a better word 172 00:18:34,820 --> 00:18:41,720 lab facility on maui which there's only two in the united states one is in nevada and one is in maui 173 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:50,520 uh how do you have you researched the microwave energy not entirely i've read stuff i've watched videos 174 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,800 of course they've got their trillion watt lasers things like that they always act like we don't 175 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,700 have that technology yet but we're working on it well they're 30 40 years ahead of us and they're 176 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:06,680 just lying of course they've got it this stuff and this isn't happening from 5g or a plane passing 177 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:12,840 over we actually think which sounds very far-fetched we think they're coming from satellites uh because 178 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:18,140 it's concentrated on an area for hours planes fly back and forth and you wouldn't be able to hit at 179 00:19:18,140 --> 00:19:22,860 these angles we don't think little drones are doing it but i'm not ruling out any possibility 180 00:19:22,860 --> 00:19:29,620 matt john and i actually figured they're coming from satellites um when i was in my 20s we had a 181 00:19:29,620 --> 00:19:37,260 president that was on national tv he tells the world we're we're developing our star wars defense system 182 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:43,700 this is back in the 80s worst president i remember history he uh he said that we all laughed at him 183 00:19:43,700 --> 00:19:49,660 we're not laughing anymore they've been working on this for a long time just like 9-11 the buildings 184 00:19:49,660 --> 00:19:55,960 didn't burn up and fall down they disintegrated in midair a technology so advanced we can't even 185 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:02,400 comprehend it and this is the same or very similar technology the cars look the same as that day 186 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:09,240 on 9-11 no different and like i said every vehicle i've seen in seven years looks like this 187 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:17,960 no exceptions wow um what did the fire chiefs the fire captains uh uh what did they say about the 188 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:23,100 microwave energy did they say anything else about um a lot over the years i guess i've known them both 189 00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:29,720 for five years um and they did a lot of research i've taken both of them to fire aftermaths and also 190 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:37,000 the great deborah trevares she happens to be a friend now and i've taken her to analyze photo uh fire 191 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:46,220 after mass um uh mostly i do the education on the plants side of it and even the windows and metals 192 00:20:46,220 --> 00:20:51,380 i i've just got on the computer and did my own research to have those numbers but they saw it the 193 00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:57,660 two firemen saw it and they have a lot to say about all these houses and cars and and also what's 194 00:20:57,660 --> 00:21:05,580 going on shortly after the fire is out immediately the big corporations jump in there kind of a disaster 195 00:21:05,580 --> 00:21:11,880 capitalism effect if you will they repair the roads right away they put in brand new telephone poles 196 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,060 as fast they can they dig up the road and put in new culvert pipes that go under the road because 197 00:21:17,060 --> 00:21:22,580 they're metal and i've got pictures of that uh in another preview and they're replacing them with 198 00:21:22,580 --> 00:21:29,040 plastic pipes under the road uh now normal forest fires wouldn't affect a metal pipe three to six or 199 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:34,900 ten feet underground but maybe with these weapons they do and they don't want the road to collapse so 200 00:21:34,900 --> 00:21:40,780 four four or five different aftermaths i've been looking for those and sure enough where the fire 201 00:21:40,780 --> 00:21:45,540 crossed the road they pulled every pipe out no matter what depth and replaced them with either 202 00:21:45,540 --> 00:21:51,580 plastic or poured a cement one you know but never put in metal back uh and that's right here at big 203 00:21:51,580 --> 00:21:56,560 basin state park where all the redwoods were in california where they closed the park for two years 204 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:03,660 and they replaced these pipes uh so a lot stood stood out and mike and john have given me a lot of 205 00:22:03,660 --> 00:22:08,960 i mean matt and john have given me a lot of ideas when i go out in the field and i'd call them a lot 206 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,380 and tell them what i found and a good little group of us the three of us working together 207 00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:18,520 a wealth of information those two fire captains had they had they know the track record of what cars 208 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:24,360 look like and what they don't look like you know 60 years combined service fire captains 209 00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:30,760 um so you look at this photo and here's your palm trees i know i was gonna why didn't all the leaves 210 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:36,900 burn off in a microsecond show you what one cigarette lighter can do to a dead frond even the green ones 211 00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:43,460 you got giant flames they burn up these buildings were burning for hours the leaves on these things 212 00:22:43,460 --> 00:22:49,800 didn't burn in the background yeah we have we have fires here like we'll have a bonfire at my place and 213 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:56,120 and we have palm fronds that we throw in and it's just like yeah you know there's no exception yeah 214 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:59,940 if some of these are blurry i'm you know i'm just borrowing these from the internet 215 00:22:59,940 --> 00:23:08,940 um to me this was a was a kill city my own term um they weren't letting people out of the city 216 00:23:08,940 --> 00:23:13,920 they were making you stay there that's your police department the firemen didn't show up or very few did 217 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:19,100 they turned the cell phones off i hear for the town yeah they also took the water off in the town 218 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:26,520 this was who knows six months or a year before and all these larger entities are told or in on it 219 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:33,940 to some degree they're told what to do even your people in office uh oh absolutely the island if 220 00:23:33,940 --> 00:23:38,500 there's a good guy they're not at their levels all these people have a lot of evil on them 221 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:45,780 yeah the governor actually um he put out an emergency proclamation with no emergency three 222 00:23:45,780 --> 00:23:52,780 weeks before the fire and he suspended seven house law seven laws that affect housing and land 223 00:23:52,780 --> 00:23:59,420 development and now yesterday they were just in oahu so they weren't even on maui and they had a 224 00:23:59,420 --> 00:24:05,800 meeting with it looks like 20 to 25 people of unelected officials the only elected official was the 225 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:13,660 governor uh and this is uh a meeting they were talking about maui and with the no sunshine law 226 00:24:13,660 --> 00:24:18,440 which means it's people cannot bring testimony and they can't testify and say what they what they want 227 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,080 it's it's atrocious what they're what they're doing yeah they make up the rules as they go along 228 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:29,100 this is nothing more than the billionaires club getting together and orchestrating destruction of 229 00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:34,560 the common people wherever they are what if they want something they've got a weapon now that's so 230 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:40,440 unimaginable they can do whatever they want they control every news outlet and i heard on maui you 231 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,800 have the largest military base of the hawaiian islands i don't know if that's true yes so there's 232 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:53,560 no stopping them as far as anything you know in that area they they tell the military any branch they 233 00:24:53,560 --> 00:25:00,640 tell them exactly what to do and this is worldwide um and your military personnel are just used to saying 234 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:06,280 yes sir yes following orders no matter what they don't want them to think on their own and have a 235 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:12,020 heart and some empathy and you know think think for themselves so it's just really hard to stop this i 236 00:25:12,020 --> 00:25:16,820 know the whole hawaiian people are really mad and they want to do something i really don't know where to 237 00:25:16,820 --> 00:25:22,120 start get it out to the whole world show all the information show anomalies like i do that should have 238 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:29,340 never happened and talk about the whole infrastructure being shut down and all the kids of course and oh my god 239 00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:36,660 there's so many categories uh we hold all the evidence but they hold all the cards that's the 240 00:25:36,660 --> 00:25:41,980 hard part they won't let us get on the media on tv and show stuff like this and talk about it i could 241 00:25:41,980 --> 00:25:48,380 never get on the tv you know any of the six media giants in america no no no no um the truth will 242 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:54,240 never get out unless we get it out like this with our cell phones calls little meetings all over the 243 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,720 planet and educate everybody that's the only way we're going to get to them and it's it's a tough 244 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:07,780 call yeah and i'm wondering oh go ahead more of the same this rim is chunked out uh some will be 245 00:26:07,780 --> 00:26:12,660 aluminum flowing like the back and some of the fronts will just break off and i don't have a 246 00:26:12,660 --> 00:26:19,120 reasoning why they come out like that perhaps that's the alloy i don't know um every vehicle looks 247 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:24,160 the same no exception now i wanted to put some boats in there because i heard all the boats even 248 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:30,580 anchored out in the harbor they burned up one of them had a glass bottom boat what's the fire doing 249 00:26:30,580 --> 00:26:36,720 80 or 100 feet out in the water burning up don't tell me the flying embers in america here on the 250 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:42,740 mainland the six media giants always say well the flying embers they get under every station i've 251 00:26:42,740 --> 00:26:48,560 noticed the flying embers get under the eaves really so embers an ember is like from a volcano it's 252 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:54,120 heavy these aren't little brown bags that are on fire that are floating through the air all the way 253 00:26:54,120 --> 00:27:00,540 out there and burn that thing up completely i'd say it's impossible but there's the picture and 254 00:27:00,540 --> 00:27:07,160 another boat in the background this doesn't happen and this also happened at the car fire in redding 255 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:13,300 california a lake called whiskey town all the boats in the harbor burned up oh my gosh i know 256 00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:20,760 the docks were burned up oh my goodness um there's the other boat the roxy uh what can do that what 257 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:26,580 float flies out there and does that kind of damage even if a little flame did get out there 258 00:27:26,580 --> 00:27:32,780 uh it's just not going to do that it's not going to melt metal like that here's your windows and 259 00:27:32,780 --> 00:27:36,960 rims again there's trees in the background it's the same thing wherever i go there's a nice clear 260 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:43,680 picture this looks like the place burned up for hours and hours and there's some things i want 261 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,580 folks to look for i believe they have some type of trash service so you've got plastic bins that 262 00:27:48,580 --> 00:27:53,500 roll around and you put them in the street and the garbage truck gets them i've noticed those are all 263 00:27:53,500 --> 00:28:00,260 left alone in place or they're taken away shortly before the fires or right after before they let the 264 00:28:00,260 --> 00:28:05,200 public back they get rid of evidence they say it's for your safety there's got to be truck loads of 265 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,500 these plastic containers going out i've never seen a melted puddle of the plastic and we've all burned 266 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:17,360 plastic as a kid yeah you have a plastic pool on the ground i've not seen that in 107 trips 267 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:23,740 when i do see a garbage can it's unaffected or partially melted if there's a uh if it's standing 268 00:28:23,740 --> 00:28:30,060 next to something metal it could be one nail that nail gets so hot it'll put a big dent or melted spot in 269 00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:35,740 the plastic garbage can so there's got to be empty trucks that come in there and they're coming out 270 00:28:35,740 --> 00:28:43,100 filled with evidence to me plastics paper synthetics uh all kinds of stuff rubber from garden hoses all 271 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:48,800 that they're clearing out now it has to go to the local dumps somewhere so if people stayed on hilltops 272 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:54,920 watched them go by took pictures follow them to the dumps see what they're dumping they're eliminating 273 00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:00,480 evidence and they're doing this everywhere um when i get there i find it all they can't hide anything 274 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:06,840 from my eyes um that's awesome this is a nasty picture it's just unbelievable and there's a tree 275 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:12,040 to your right i can't tell a big one yeah and like the twigs would burn right behind the leaves 276 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:19,860 they didn't hanging over two houses oh my god here's your trees in the background no it's the same old 277 00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:27,600 thing uh everywhere so what's happening is the insurance is refusing to pay because it's a god 278 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:35,600 it's a it's a natural fire but my one of my goals with this video is to tell people you know to tell 279 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:43,820 lahaina get a prosecutor find an investigator uh we if we can prove if they can prove if we can prove 280 00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:49,800 that this is not natural then maybe the insurance companies will turn it over and they'll have 281 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,860 to pay and and we can change this and also the fact that this is an occupied territory and not 282 00:29:54,860 --> 00:30:00,940 a state and that's a whole nother story with that but but i'm just curious um i don't i mean i know 283 00:30:00,940 --> 00:30:05,140 that a lot of people don't even believe in direct energy weapons because they don't understand 284 00:30:05,140 --> 00:30:10,800 uh how long this has been going on for and that we are truly at a war and they are murdering 285 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:17,980 our children our keiki our ohana and it's like when do we when do we fight back i know it's it's a lot 286 00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:22,260 especially for lahaina people they've lost everything but i'm just curious if there's 287 00:30:22,260 --> 00:30:26,980 any investigator out there any attorney that would even touch this with the 10-foot pole 288 00:30:26,980 --> 00:30:33,920 i've got a feeling it's very few if any because they will be approached by the dark ones and told 289 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:43,320 to stand down and go away paid off or something worse um and whenever i talk to firemen here on 290 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,720 california none of them can answer my my plant questions none of them i don't care if they're 291 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:53,140 they're an investigator and here they grab somebody that's watching the fire from a distance and they 292 00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:58,800 quickly grab them put them in jail and pin it on people that could not start these fires in their 293 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:04,500 wildest dreams no way uh-uh and i've talked to a few of the lawyers they kind of disregard me and they 294 00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:09,320 get some plea bargain where the person's going to stay in jail for so many years and fine them and 295 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:15,500 like they didn't even start the fire and that's cal fire investigators and the local sheriff to 296 00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:20,340 whichever community it may be in but this isn't isolated they're doing this around the planet 297 00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:25,340 yeah canada's burning down 15 000 homes santa rosa i was up there 298 00:31:25,340 --> 00:31:33,420 reading was my mom i've got a chart full of cities in california with the house counts every year 299 00:31:33,420 --> 00:31:38,880 we've never seen house counts like this you might burn a cabin out in the woods or a small track but 300 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:47,800 you don't burn a downtown main area that doesn't happen uh one statistic i is my own backpacking 301 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,740 and climbing over 130 mountains in my lifetime i've been to every forest zone in the state of 302 00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:59,460 california in all those years except for the last seven i've backpacked all summer thousands of miles 303 00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:04,480 on my feet and the forest fires i've seen where i don't want to take a picture of the nice mountain 304 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:10,600 scenery in all those years there's only been three and in the last seven years we have 10 in the 305 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:17,520 sierra every year and they're horrific from 500 000 acres to a million acres and tons of houses just 306 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:24,360 missing so all this and they want to call it global this global that climate this like all that's a lie 307 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,040 they can't trip the plant kingdom when i'm up there i know every flower i see and they all grow the 308 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:34,940 same height everything looks the same every year except the fires are burning way more and the 309 00:32:34,940 --> 00:32:39,420 forests aren't all dead in california whoever's saying that's lying they say oh they're dead 310 00:32:39,420 --> 00:32:44,840 everywhere no they're not i'm up there all the time so that's a lie too because of course pines would 311 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:50,820 be flammable but even if they are flammable they're not burning even from all the chemical sprays all over 312 00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:56,040 california they're not an accelerant lest the trees would have been burning like crazy 313 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:02,020 they're not if you've seen my peggy hall video i have plenty of photographs of the whole forest dead 314 00:33:02,020 --> 00:33:08,920 but not burned and this giant is it a banyan or it's one of the ficus banyan i think uh why isn't 315 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,380 it burned up the building in front was toasted the roof's gone the window's gone everything's gone 316 00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:20,180 it's the wrong flame and that's my only answer to that i can't describe what the flame's composition is 317 00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:26,020 i just know there's microwave in there somewhere how do you think and i know this is just 318 00:33:26,020 --> 00:33:33,000 going to be a hypothesis but how do you think the microwave energy is is sent down so you said 319 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:39,020 you said satellite so it's like because i've seen some pictures of images but i i'm you know i don't 320 00:33:39,020 --> 00:33:44,640 know if they're accurate or not we have not seen any of those pictures we really can only guess at 321 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:50,520 delivery systems but they've been working on it 40 years or even more yeah you're right they don't 322 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,560 know we really don't know and maybe there's 10 different types i always say it's kind of like 323 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:01,340 your blender in the kitchen frappe stir crunch you know they just put it on a different setting and 324 00:34:01,340 --> 00:34:08,560 they get a different effect we're just guessing yeah i put this photo out just an hour ago not 325 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:14,560 because of all the burned up stuff but that's a white plastic fence yeah it's it's melted a little 326 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,920 and bent but that's plastic this kind of heat it should have melted out and been gone also portions 327 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:27,600 of that street light uh there's plastics in there and they're not melted i mean you look hard like why 328 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,980 is that plastic fence not gone and in a puddle on the ground now i see this everywhere i go 329 00:34:32,980 --> 00:34:38,440 and the vine on the fence i don't know what the vine is i can't tell it should be gone there's flames 330 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:44,140 everywhere nope that's true here's my picture from redding california a whole fence line looked like 331 00:34:44,140 --> 00:34:49,760 this and this was the worst picture or best only the nails are on fire then the fire goes out 332 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:57,460 between the the cross members and the wood drops on the ground and it didn't burn out in the open 333 00:34:57,460 --> 00:35:02,600 between the nails well fire doesn't wow it burns the post and drops the nails on the ground 334 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:08,740 that's true i've also made the comment the ground itself is on fire every post i see is burned at 335 00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:14,840 the ground sometimes these are in gravel or cement or in a field where it's just dirt and you're not 336 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,780 going to get that kind of burn pattern on the ground the trees are burned from the inside out and 337 00:35:20,780 --> 00:35:26,460 always at the ground level there'll be a hole sometimes three four feet deep down into the ground 338 00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:31,940 where the the trunk came out and this is an extreme water lover a creek's running right past it like a 339 00:35:31,940 --> 00:35:37,380 willow and it's it's burned straight down with an oxygen is not and there's not a lot of oxygen that 340 00:35:37,380 --> 00:35:43,920 deep uh but this is common i'm finding it all the time it's not just one anomaly the whole fence line 341 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,980 looks like this and they never saw this it's on a back road out of redding california and they grab a 342 00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:54,980 lady a backpacker and they stuck her in jail she's been in jail for two years oh my gosh like i want the 343 00:35:54,980 --> 00:36:00,700 cal fire investigators tell me what's going on with this picture they can't they don't have a chance 344 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:06,200 against me here's another one of course many species the ones in the middle are eucalyptus i 345 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,520 can tell that from their growth pattern they should be gone we had a fire in 1991 in oakland and berkeley 346 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:18,860 california the eucalyptus burned to the ground they're very volatile the the liquids inside will 347 00:36:18,860 --> 00:36:25,220 ignite i went there because i had to do some tree work these things burn down to low stumps or holes in 348 00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:32,820 the ground i've not seen one leaf burn in seven years any of the efforts is that paradise no this 349 00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:37,720 is supposed to be maui that's what it said oh and there's one of your garbage cans i finally found 350 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:43,760 they can't hide oh because they don't have enough workers that follow directions there's always somebody 351 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:51,080 that gets sloppy and doesn't do exactly oh so here you got wood left yeah the the garbage can and the 352 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,860 wood to the left whatever that wood was for huh didn't burn up now this fire was horrific and 353 00:36:56,860 --> 00:37:03,420 there's an anomaly itself only half that car burned it's rare i see that tells me the fire department got 354 00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:09,580 here right now and they they actually put that one out i cannot understand why it because usually it's 355 00:37:09,580 --> 00:37:14,580 the whole car and i believe the windows are melted out even though the back of the car did not burn 356 00:37:14,580 --> 00:37:22,560 wow so here's your house it's missing and all these trees around didn't burn up well first of all right 357 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,460 close by from where'd the fire come from to burn the house it had to come through the forest 358 00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:34,260 and the dry grass on the left is interesting and when people say where'd it come from that's when i look up 359 00:37:34,260 --> 00:37:41,740 i look up now everybody knows about this these are the umbrellas this is synthetic i mean if you got 360 00:37:41,740 --> 00:37:48,700 flying embers where's the holes the flying embers is alive and if they are flying they're not the 361 00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:53,820 normal fires we know of that will burn synthetics there's something else so there's your palms 362 00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:59,900 there's your synthetics and i don't believe these things were made of asbestos the building's gone 363 00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:05,680 it's just metals and these things didn't burn up that one's been circulating around the internet as 364 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:11,700 well as the blue the blue color burning i can't expand expand on that i haven't studied it enough 365 00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:17,480 there might be some truth to the blue maybe uh this is what happens all the time this is that big 366 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:23,500 basin state park in california just out of the park there's some houses and the redwoods were black 367 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:29,200 and i talked about that with peggy hall your cambial fluids are just inside the bark and i believe that 368 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:35,520 that liquid is what's on fire and burns the trunks but not the needles redwoods are fire retardant oh my 369 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,480 gosh you're right burn up all the needles burn up in a firestorm i've backpacked plenty of coast 370 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:47,200 ranges with redwoods the needles are gone and they sucker back and grow um so here's one of these 371 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:52,520 canopies with a table under it where's those flying embers not a hole in it it didn't burn 372 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:58,340 and to my left is a house that's missing in a swimming pool that's plastic it's unaffected and 373 00:38:58,340 --> 00:39:05,100 i don't have that one here up north there's lake sonoma uh in the santa rosa area same thing 374 00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:11,140 gurnville up there redwoods they're cooked on the outside but they didn't burn the leaves 375 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:15,840 what kind of forest fire goes through the forest and forgets the number one thing that burns the 376 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:22,380 leaves there's a douglas fir in there too with a p2 written on it but the biggest point of this photo 377 00:39:22,380 --> 00:39:28,740 is they're collecting all the plastics to take them off the properties multiple homes are gone 378 00:39:28,740 --> 00:39:33,160 they put them together they're going to bring a truck in there and steal everybody's basically 379 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,980 evidence notice everything's plastic or wood that didn't burn i knew i'd catch them doing this 380 00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:45,900 uh because i have not seen the puddles of plastic this is in green look at that yeah these melted a 381 00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:50,220 teeny bit and it was i know there was a little metal pieces here and there but these things should 382 00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:55,000 have been gone this is greenville where they burned about a million acres in the southern cascade ranch 383 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:01,200 range by mount last in the volcano the whole town they took away and i went up there and analyzed it 384 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:07,680 twice now these people are mad oh my god and of course they're not letting them rebuild a few people get 385 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:14,500 lucky they have all these environmental impact reports on their little tiny lot to see if there's a 386 00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:20,160 protected worm or something they're lying to keep them from rebuilding uh no one lady cynthia that 387 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:28,500 spent 40 000 on fighting sacramento to get permits just to rebuild their house 40 000 so they're 388 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:33,060 making it really hard they really are and i don't know what else they're doing this is the way you'll 389 00:40:33,060 --> 00:40:39,100 find your windows just over 2500 degrees they're melted and perhaps they've gone up to even up to 390 00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:45,920 3000 to make them more liquidy i don't know but it starts at around 2500 every single car i've seen 391 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:54,760 no exception wildfires burn about 14 what's that wildfires burn about 1400 1427 it's right on the 392 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,620 computer uh and everybody says well the woods the woods wet it doesn't burn the trees are wet they 393 00:40:59,620 --> 00:41:04,800 have water in them well these oh my gosh these people are just ignorant here's a trader park or a mobile 394 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:12,800 home park in our delta in california the mobile homes are gone there's 21 of them missing here's 395 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:18,120 the only wood on the property that's the door walk up the steps open the door and walk in right there 396 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:23,980 where the door frame is why did the wood not burn especially on the door side where the coach is 397 00:41:23,980 --> 00:41:29,980 this is dry wood this is kindling not a black mark shows you we're dealing with a weapon that's 398 00:41:29,980 --> 00:41:35,880 it's the wrong flame it's not yeah it's not propane it's not acetylene it's not a wood 399 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,960 combustion fire we know of this is something else and the closest thing i come up with is microwave 400 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:47,520 area i don't know exactly but i've had a fire in my microwave some tinfoil was in my honey jar 401 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,980 and that scared the heck out of me i remember that too yeah that's something in there was lamento 402 00:41:52,980 --> 00:41:57,720 wood i want to see a fire person tell me that the wind was blowing the other direction 403 00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:03,220 yeah and look at the duster the duster that those fibers on the duster would have gone up 404 00:42:03,220 --> 00:42:07,620 and i don't know why then bolts on the side didn't light up i have no idea i don't have all 405 00:42:07,620 --> 00:42:14,680 the answers but this is damning this photograph it's just damning this is of course that same 406 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:23,080 picture um santa rosa santa rosa 4 700 homes gone and every time you hear 100 every time you hear uh 407 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:28,860 these fires came out of nowhere they always say oh there's crazy winds here uh just because we 408 00:42:28,860 --> 00:42:34,300 have forest fires naturally we don't have crazy winds all the time but the last seven years it's 409 00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:39,440 always a crazy wind came out of nowhere yeah well they have weather modification which there's 410 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,460 actually a company and if again people if you're listening still which i hope you are this is amazing 411 00:42:44,460 --> 00:42:50,380 information stand together hawaii.com stand together hawaii.com and go to maui forest fires 412 00:42:50,380 --> 00:42:56,580 and scroll down and you'll see the the exact there's actually um a weather modification act 413 00:42:56,580 --> 00:43:04,080 and i think that one's the one for 1976 and i think the uh direct energies was for for a certain um a 414 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:11,520 certain reason why for uh 2016 i can't remember the exact ones but those are all on that page maui fires 415 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:17,860 oh and check this out wow the tie the rubber's gone also matt uh woke me up about 416 00:43:17,860 --> 00:43:25,120 um you're spraying in the sky with jets we've been modifying the weather for over there's weather 417 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:31,600 patents you know tampering with our weather for over a hundred years it's right on the computer 418 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:38,320 weather manipulation patents right on the computer anybody invited even the company that took out the 419 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:44,360 patent for that year so they've been tampering with our weather forever uh this is the way i find 420 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:50,300 every single tire the rubber is completely gone just some little black there and it's crunching hard 421 00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:57,240 like carbon i guess and there's your steel belt like a little slinky then uh i'll see this maybe one 422 00:43:57,240 --> 00:44:04,320 out of two or one out of 300 tires same areas the ground's burned and like what's going on here so 423 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:09,500 maybe somebody rolled it there great i pick it up and look underneath no it's been sitting there's a 424 00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:14,880 ring in the dirt or mud it's been sitting there for at least a year or more and it didn't burn it 425 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:21,560 didn't melt it's not disfigured it's like what's going on then i see this polyester cord i guess 426 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,660 there's one steel cord on the perimeter that holds it on the tire but not enough to make it combust but 427 00:44:26,660 --> 00:44:32,340 every time i look at one i have to look at the the tire and that's what it says polyester so right 428 00:44:32,340 --> 00:44:36,960 there you know the metals are on fire that's what's going on it's one or the other i've never seen a 429 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,780 partially melted tire yet i've seen over a thousand tires because you'll get to somebody's 430 00:44:41,780 --> 00:44:46,440 house that's a hoarder of cars and parts and there'll be piles of tires and i'm looking through 431 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:53,080 and all of a sudden there's one of these it's unbelievable so that one's really damning that's 432 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,980 all i've brought i finished up with i love it one of my hidden i love it i love it thank you so much 433 00:44:57,980 --> 00:45:04,780 robert nobody's ever seen this waterfall wow that's beautiful and that's big sir back country where 434 00:45:04,780 --> 00:45:09,600 a forest fire came through there twice in my all my mountaineering days i backpacked there 435 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,980 the forest fire burned all the leaves all the twigs and branches and left straight poles 436 00:45:14,980 --> 00:45:20,740 perhaps 200 feet tall then they all grew back branches and everything came out but the leaves 437 00:45:20,740 --> 00:45:26,240 burned i've not seen like i said the eucalyptus and bay leaves i've not seen any of those burn 438 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:33,640 in all the aftermaths i've been to not one unless the tree happened to be hanging over a house and 439 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:38,880 it's really close some of those did burn but other than that out in the forest the forest is just dead 440 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:46,880 and brown or light shaded green none of them burned up um i didn't get into the water lovers and i'm sure 441 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,560 you have a lot of extreme water lovers over in the islands the ones that you cut down like a willow tree 442 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,900 here it grows back every year cut it down every month cut it down it grows back holds a ton of water 443 00:45:56,900 --> 00:46:03,220 those are the first to burn from the inside out the leaves will still be and inside where there's a ton 444 00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:10,340 of water and some of these i will cut down for a living and they will be a drinking fountain i'm not 445 00:46:10,340 --> 00:46:15,840 kidding there's so much pressure in the root system it'll be pushing the water up two inches high 446 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:21,380 out of the top of the stump where you could actually drink it but don't and these are the first to burn 447 00:46:21,380 --> 00:46:29,400 from the inside out it makes no sense but then your water is great as uh conductivity for these 448 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,920 electrical type fires um that's about all i've got to say right now i just want people to stay 449 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,220 vigilant take pictures everywhere watch what they're taking in watch what they're taking out 450 00:46:39,220 --> 00:46:44,940 and the company trucks notice the people coming in to clean up i've noticed they have brand new 451 00:46:44,940 --> 00:46:50,420 trucks like off the showroom floor whatever the company is they have a fleet of these brand new 452 00:46:50,420 --> 00:46:57,200 trucks and many of the people doing the work i don't know what nationality they are uh it's probably 453 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,680 scandinavian or over towards russia one of those other uh northern countries not mediterranean not 454 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:09,440 latin not french um i have no idea who they are but they're doing the cleanup with these brand new 455 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,440 trucks in a fleet of even tree equipment when they're they got their stump grinders and their 456 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:21,220 chippers and trucks all those they're brand new and they came out of nowhere to do these the cleanup 457 00:47:21,220 --> 00:47:28,460 here in california uh yeah robert could you uh uh stop your screen share and let's just have a 458 00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:33,700 conversation more about this so if you're watching this thank you so much for all of your uh research 459 00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:39,340 on this and your hundred your visits to these hundreds of areas i'm sure that not only was it 460 00:47:39,340 --> 00:47:44,820 shocking but it probably was very heartbreaking as as this whole thing is you know greenville i mean 461 00:47:44,820 --> 00:47:51,620 paradise was my my second job i had a job up there as an as a real estate appraiser assistant and i went 462 00:47:51,620 --> 00:47:57,820 up there for christmas after the fires and saw the the devastation and it was so shocking because there 463 00:47:57,820 --> 00:48:03,120 was like a wooden fence that wasn't burned but this house was demolished to ash just like you showed 464 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:09,100 and greenville i have my grandmother's buried there and so and now maui which i live on big island but 465 00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:14,280 all of these are are close and dear to my heart so i just want to thank you so much for the work that 466 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:19,540 you're doing and also um if you are watching this and you're wondering i'm such an action person i 467 00:48:19,540 --> 00:48:25,260 always love to give information and then give people actions my action step for for all of you 468 00:48:25,260 --> 00:48:31,380 is to contact first go to stand together hawaii.com go to maui fires you will see 469 00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:37,360 the emails to all of our state uh representatives and all of our state senators you can send them 470 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:43,300 this information we we need to have this investigated i think it's a long shot because i think that what 471 00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:47,940 already they have in place is what they have in place but the other thing i would i would share with 472 00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:55,380 you guys who are watching this be prepared for anything have a to-go bag in your car filled with 473 00:48:55,380 --> 00:49:02,800 water um you know i even have the small packs of water uh food extra pair of clothing toilet paper 474 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,100 you know just stuff that you can just grab and go if you need to go right away and you can't get back 475 00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:13,480 to your house so have that and the other thing i want to share is that if you are listening to this 476 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:19,440 and you're going is this real oh my gosh i can't believe this is this what what is happening to my world 477 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:28,340 right now i woke up or discovered that my world was not what it was about 10 years ago and i was 478 00:49:28,340 --> 00:49:33,760 arguing arguing with with my boyfriend at the time about 9 11 and i was like no way because i remember 479 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:42,340 where i was i cried like like a like like a baby for days and was depressed and i remember the moment 480 00:49:42,340 --> 00:49:48,680 that i got it because he said michelle he said i'll pay you a hundred dollars to watch one hour 481 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:55,760 of zeitgeist which was a three hour long movie and i watched the whole time and i cried like a baby 482 00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:01,000 i was depressed for three days i was like what do we do what do we do and there was nothing to do at 483 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:07,260 the time because nothing was happening so that so if you're if you're there and you're like oh my gosh 484 00:50:07,260 --> 00:50:15,160 this is real you're not alone this is real they we are under attack they have attacked maui they 485 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:21,120 have murdered our people they have murdered our keiki and our ohana and the hawaiians they're not even 486 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:27,700 a part of the united states this is an occupied territory and queen liliokalani had a red ribbon 487 00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:35,420 letter that literally took literally um brings down any mortgage any anything that that that the united 488 00:50:35,420 --> 00:50:42,280 corporation has put in place that letter takes down i don't know how it can work i don't know 489 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:47,000 if the hawaii kingdom can come back i don't know any of this i don't know if standing up is going to 490 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:54,600 work but i just know that for myself for me i have to try and do something and just make make a stink 491 00:50:54,600 --> 00:51:00,180 about it and do these videos as best as i can and and help you know let our representatives know we 492 00:51:00,180 --> 00:51:06,620 know what you're doing like like like governor green who what was it like days after the fire 493 00:51:06,620 --> 00:51:14,100 his statement is i'm i'm looking for ways for the state to acquire the land for workforce housing the 494 00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:21,020 other place that the workforce was where was when the financial officer of maui who's on the board 495 00:51:21,020 --> 00:51:29,360 for ai and how to bring ai into government uh structures and government systems and he says 496 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:36,320 for workforce productivity so what does workforce mean i in my opinion it means enslavement and the 497 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:42,980 reason why they're burning all of these um rule houses rule areas is to get people into these smart 498 00:51:42,980 --> 00:51:50,260 cities which maui was already set up i think a month ago the the governor said in the u.n at the u.n united 499 00:51:50,260 --> 00:51:55,120 nations was that he wants you know maui's going to be the first smart city lahaina was the key 500 00:51:55,120 --> 00:52:04,000 lahaina is the was the first uh um the first um uh what is it anyway main entrance to maui to to 501 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:11,820 the hawaii islands that was that was lahaina so she has been destroyed attacked and these people were 502 00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:19,380 murdered and and that so contact our representatives contact our senators tell them this is not okay we 503 00:52:19,380 --> 00:52:25,580 know what's happening and we want this to stop now we we want the governor's emergency proclamation 504 00:52:25,580 --> 00:52:32,640 that suspended all seven laws to be done be be gone we want that ended we want the laws put back in 505 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,960 place because this is a constitution and they they cannot what they're doing is a dictatorship 506 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:44,620 and what they're doing is literally taking over without any argument from our legislative body 507 00:52:44,620 --> 00:52:50,640 so our legislative legislators need to step the fuck up they need to step up and make a stand for 508 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:57,620 the people right now because we don't know who else is going to so i just wanted to say that and i also 509 00:52:57,620 --> 00:53:04,960 want to say that there is a higher power this is a spiritual warfare between good and evil get a new 510 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:11,580 relationship or a stronger relationship with your higher power with god with source and find that peace 511 00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:18,360 in your heart with all people if you are arguing with somebody get over it make peace because this 512 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:25,240 is a spiritual warfare and we need to be strong in our hearts so if you are in any type of disagreement 513 00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:32,120 with somebody make peace in your heart with your with yourself forgive yourself and forgive others 514 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:39,220 right now because we need each one of us to stand in our strength and in love because love is way more 515 00:53:39,220 --> 00:53:44,600 powerful than fear and way more powerful than what they have and that's that's that's what i wanted 516 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:51,720 to say robert thank you so much for your time and your courage to go there and take these pictures 517 00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:59,600 and speak your truth i so so appreciate you um i i couldn't sit there idle i just uh there was a 518 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,460 calling for me that i never knew and i never went to college i never learned anything that in that 519 00:54:04,460 --> 00:54:10,460 direction i've always had a scientific book in my hand it was my nerdy fun that i had i was up there 520 00:54:10,460 --> 00:54:15,540 might as well learn everything i can while i'm out there so this was really blatant to me and i guess 521 00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:21,380 i was called upon to see this through so i have to do something and i've done a lot of videos now 522 00:54:21,380 --> 00:54:27,460 and i guess they're circulating worldwide um there's a few points that people besides staying vigilant 523 00:54:27,460 --> 00:54:34,420 and watch everything is your fire insurance people the farmers and all state farm and all that 524 00:54:34,420 --> 00:54:39,800 i believe in my heart the people at the top of each one of those companies knows what's going on 525 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:47,720 if they can approach some of these fires uh you know insurance companies and talk to them show them 526 00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:53,360 pictures work on a lot of those too that's an area that i'm going to do here in the states i'm going to 527 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,980 i've already talked to one bring them the evidence and see if we can strike a nerve there somehow 528 00:54:57,980 --> 00:55:04,260 we have to fight this at every level we can because they own the military the billionaires own the 529 00:55:04,260 --> 00:55:10,460 government and they're that one percent is ruling the planet less than one percent we have to group up 530 00:55:10,460 --> 00:55:16,680 together and make a stand at any level we can we have to do something i i love it you know what i 531 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,320 didn't even think about that if you're in lhaina and you're watching this if you're are you know 532 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:27,080 somebody who has their house burnt i love that then this video this information go to stand 533 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:32,600 together hawaii.com i'm going to add some more information on there um that has web it has direct 534 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:37,640 energy weapon information weather modification information and and call the insurance company 535 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:43,700 and said talk to the head honcho and give them you know give them this information that's actually 536 00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:49,340 really really true because if they can prove to the insurance companies that this was a direct 537 00:55:49,340 --> 00:55:55,700 you know a man-made thing then they actually get their insurance if it's god which is actually 538 00:55:55,700 --> 00:56:00,000 really interesting because this is a war spiritual warfare and they're trying to blame it on god 539 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:05,780 even though they're murdering and destroying um our our property murdering our people and destroying 540 00:56:05,780 --> 00:56:12,620 our property so that is a great action to take and great advice it's actually i hate to say it but 541 00:56:12,620 --> 00:56:20,000 it's been world war three since at least 2001 and i've heard from some real smart historians that 542 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:26,640 the enemy's never been overseas the enemy's always been the billionaires orchestrating every war every 543 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:34,060 war since at least napoleon yes every war profiting on both sides of the war and separating us into red and 544 00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:40,800 blue and yeah right wing and left wing they've made these two groups and they hold the prize they've started 545 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:46,580 everything the billionaires i call them yes um so we we've got to do what we can and help you 546 00:56:46,580 --> 00:56:53,080 help everybody you can help your neighbor get your to-go bags do whatever you can at your level 547 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:59,920 absolutely and i love that you said that because rock because they've funded you know both sides of the 548 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:05,800 war you know ford company was making tanks and sending them to germany to fight americans that's right 549 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:11,620 and and rockefeller he's actually the one that created the medical system the medical industry 550 00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:19,240 and the medical um schools and what happened was he is he needed more workers so he actually well they 551 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,740 actually he actually also created the schooling system and that's where that was going was it was 552 00:57:22,740 --> 00:57:27,420 the whole schooling system is designed for to create factory workers every hour the bell rings 553 00:57:27,420 --> 00:57:32,600 you know and uh you're being told when to when you can go to the bathroom and when you can eat and 554 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:39,020 all of this stuff but my point was with the medical system was that whole system is designed to keep 555 00:57:39,020 --> 00:57:44,940 you sick because when you're sick and you're you have diseases that that gives them more money it's like 556 00:57:44,940 --> 00:57:49,940 the whole covid thing they didn't talk about your immune system and how to boost your immune system 557 00:57:49,940 --> 00:57:55,840 and how to keep your body healthy they talked about a symptom so it's like if you're watching this 558 00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:03,340 please just start to take start to ask yourself when do you ask questions when do you look at things 559 00:58:03,340 --> 00:58:09,220 that's what's that that's right um and they're they're attacking us in at least 10 different 560 00:58:09,220 --> 00:58:14,280 directions right now and they're winning in all 10 you know and some of them you already know 561 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:20,180 um but anyway i'm going to stick to what i i know what i my my strong suit i'll let other people 562 00:58:20,180 --> 00:58:25,520 talk about these other categories there's plenty of them right now there's plenty of them right now so 563 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:32,360 we need to hope and pray and bond together help everybody in need get through this 564 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:39,240 yeah yeah and this is prophecy you know i was asking a friend of mine who um who's helping me 565 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:44,340 uh learn more about the systems that we're in uh and he said you michelle this is biblical because i 566 00:58:44,340 --> 00:58:47,680 said i said are we going to be okay are we going to win you know what's up with maui and 567 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:54,420 and he said this is biblical what's happening right now and there there is it is going to be really 568 00:58:54,420 --> 00:58:59,560 a struggle but it's a spiritual warfare for your own soul so that's also why it has to be hard 569 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,640 because you have to get out of everything that makes you comfortable and then when are you going 570 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:09,700 to turn to a higher power when are you going to turn to something that's greater than yourself 571 00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:15,620 and find your own inner strength through that so this is a game i really think in my opinion that 572 00:59:15,620 --> 00:59:22,420 this world is a simulation because our souls are eternal this body only stays here 70 80 90 100 573 00:59:22,420 --> 00:59:29,500 years if we're lucky and then we move on our spirit our soul moves on so what we do here you know 574 00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:36,500 are we doing what we can to help other people and are we also um finding our own spiritual growth 575 00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:41,640 and saying yes to forgiveness and yes to love and yes to inner strength and doing what's right 576 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:47,840 versus doing what's easy so robert again i just want to say so much mahalo from the big island and 577 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:54,160 from from hawaii and from maui for for just taking the time to go through those pictures i know that 578 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:59,700 that took a while for you to do and i just really really appreciate you you're amazing share this as 579 00:59:59,700 --> 01:00:04,460 much as you can because i don't know if i'm going to do a second one for anybody even peggy hall i i've 580 01:00:04,460 --> 01:00:10,080 been denying many of them and i just felt good about you so this might be the only one i do i think a lot 581 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:16,060 of people are doing plenty of videos on the ground in maui so you really don't need my help i think 582 01:00:16,060 --> 01:00:21,740 there's plenty of people that are taking the um the gist of it and you know they're they're running 583 01:00:21,740 --> 01:00:26,440 with it and i like seeing that everybody else you can't have a captain you can't have a leader they 584 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:32,920 take down leaders like kennedy martin luther king and whoever else everybody has to be a leader together 585 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:37,480 we have to be a one-time team because they'll cut you know they'll stop the leader right away that's 586 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:45,300 what they do yeah um and we try to get the information out to everybody well this will be done within 587 01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:49,800 the hour i'm just gonna as soon as as soon as it's done rendering i'm gonna send it out and uh 588 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:54,080 and just sending you so much love and inner strength and uh sending you lots and lots of aloha 589 01:00:54,080 --> 01:01:01,420 and i think on your end you're the one who has to press stop on the recording because i have you as a 590 01:01:01,420 --> 01:01:11,820 asked you so much of a sister and your line who has to post 591 01:01:11,820 --> 01:01:12,740 so so 592 01:01:12,740 --> 01:01:13,920 so so 593 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:23,740 so so