1 00:00:07,379 --> 00:00:12,859 game, third-person RPG game that contains all the outcomes of every decision you can 2 00:00:12,859 --> 00:00:13,859 make in your life. 3 00:00:13,859 --> 00:00:26,960 I'd like to welcome to the show Anthony Peake, how are you doing Anthony? 4 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,620 I'm doing very well Alex, great to be chatting to you. 5 00:00:34,759 --> 00:00:41,399 is fascinating to me and my very first question is how did you get into this line... 6 00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:46,700 What made you go, "Hey, life and death, let's prove it, life after death, let's prove it"? 7 00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:51,119 I guess because it's the biggest question of all, isn't it? 8 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:54,000 Ever since I was a kid I've always used to think, "What the hell is the point of all 9 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,000 this? 10 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Why am I here? 11 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,039 What's the whole point of it?" 12 00:01:03,759 --> 00:01:07,400 by out-of-body experiences, near-death experiences, these kind of things. 13 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,840 I had the opportunity of buying a part, a UK part-work called Man Myth and Magic. 14 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,040 This was in the late 1960s, it was probably earlier, probably even earlier than that I 15 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,040 think. 16 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,920 The part-work really made me very interested in extraordinary human experiences. 17 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,959 When I had the opportunity to go to university I decided that I would focus my 18 00:01:36,140 --> 00:01:43,280 I focus in also on religious movements, particularly historical ones during the 15... 19 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,040 so I was quite interested in that as well. 20 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:52,280 I then carried on, did post-grad at the London School of Economics and went into 21 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:03,079 extraordinary experiences, and I became heavily involved in the UFO phenomenon, 22 00:02:03,079 --> 00:02:05,079 everything else. 23 00:02:05,079 --> 00:02:12,479 It was way back in 1999, I had the opportunity, I'd done a business contract ... 24 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:16,759 and I'd earned sufficient money to take a year out to write a book, and my wife was 25 00:02:16,759 --> 00:02:17,759 very understanding. 26 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:21,159 She said, "Well, if you want to do it, just do it, take the year out, take a sabbatical 27 00:02:22,159 --> 00:02:27,879 So really, literally, I started on the first day writing the book, and I was sitting there 28 00:02:27,879 --> 00:02:30,639 and I thought, "What the hell am I going to write about?" 29 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,919 You know, you're a writer, you've got this blank piece of paper in front of you, or the 30 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:39,520 blank screen, and what happened was I suddenly started sensing I was going to co... 31 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,000 a migraine attack, my fingers started going numb, it happens to me a lot, take my finger 32 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,159 starting numb, my lips start going numb, and then I had the most extraordinary deja vu 33 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:59,000 about writing a book, and I thought, "That's it, I'll write a book about deja vu," because 34 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,280 that is such a common phenomenon, I've had it all my life, it's associated with my classic 35 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,280 migraine. 36 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,439 So I started after I came out of the aura state, because I never get a headache, I 37 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:13,159 get the headache, I just get this kind of feeling of disassociation, and I started 38 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:24,199 death experiences, and deja vu, and migraine, they're all linked, they're all to do with 39 00:03:24,199 --> 00:03:30,000 the same neurochemicals in the brain, and I then discovered, much to my astonishment, 40 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:36,120 that also linked to this is something called temporal lobe epilepsy, which is a 41 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,639 powerful form of epilepsy where people go into altered states of consciousness, they 42 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:52,319 temporal lobe epilepsy, they're all linked by one thing, and that's linked to the fact 43 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:58,280 that they all have aura states, and most of the aura states involve deja vu sensations. 44 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,960 And that's how it started, and we'll get into the material in the book, but what really 45 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,159 was extraordinary was that, and I'll tell you a very quick story about this, because 46 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,199 management consultants wanting me to work for other companies, and I get this phone 47 00:04:16,199 --> 00:04:20,439 call one afternoon from this lady who was working for an agency, and she said, hi To... 48 00:04:20,439 --> 00:04:23,879 are you doing, and I said, I'm doing fine, and she said, I've got a business contract 49 00:04:23,879 --> 00:04:27,600 for you if you're interested, and I said, well, I've decided to take a year out to 50 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,399 write a book, so I'm not really interested in doing this, and she said, well, what do 51 00:04:31,399 --> 00:04:35,720 you want, what are you writing about, and I said, well, I'm writing about altered states 52 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:47,240 quiet, and she said, oh, okay, can we meet up, so I met her for coffee, we have a local 53 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,839 airport here, Gatwick Airport, and I met her for coffee at the airport, or a hotel near 54 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,240 the airport, and she sat me down, and she said, the reason I would need to speak to ... 55 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:01,480 that I was diagnosed with temporal lobe epilepsy about three or four months ago, a... 56 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,600 across temporal lobe epilepsy, and this is extraordinary, she said she was sitting at 57 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:16,519 a business meeting with another lady, and the lady was about to pour a cup of tea, and 58 00:05:16,519 --> 00:05:20,639 as she did so, my associate, I called her Margaret, that's not a real name, she felt 59 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:26,439 a snap over her ear, and she said, she looked and her friend had stopped moving, and she 60 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,540 around her, and then she looked closer, and she could see that her friend was actually 61 00:05:35,540 --> 00:05:40,199 moving really slowly, and she told me that, and she actually said, and it was quite 62 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:47,279 she said, I felt that I was there for days, months, years, watching this tea come out 63 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:53,720 the teapot, fall out the teapot, hit the surface, and plunk and come down, and then 64 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,319 back and just looked at me, and she'd been away for about, she'd gone blank for around 65 00:06:02,319 --> 00:06:11,120 about two seconds, and that's what's called a petty malabsence in neurological terminology, 66 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:17,000 and the person in there, they go into this altered state of consciousness where time 67 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,120 and this was, and I turned around to her, and I said to her, do you get deja vu sensations, 68 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:33,759 happen for the next minute, and they subsequently met somebody else who also ha... 69 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:39,319 his pineal gland, and he said the same thing, and I asked him, and I said, if you know 70 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:43,600 going to happen next, why don't you say something, and he said, think about it, he 71 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:48,759 turn around and say, you're about to say something to me, and I butt in and go, I'v... 72 00:06:54,220 --> 00:07:02,040 he said, I changed the future, and sorry, I'm getting over cold, and it made me realise 73 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:07,959 that there's something curious taking place in the brain during these seizures, and I 74 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:12,680 then subsequently found out that very similar chemicals are released when people have near 75 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:18,560 death experiences, and that's how I had my whole idea for the book, and as they say, 76 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:30,639 I sent the book off to a publishers in London, and quite by chance, and again I'm 77 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:35,759 by look and synchronist, I call it synchronicity, the idea that you get 78 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:41,000 helpful, what happened was that the managing, the chief executive of the publishing company 79 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,600 was flying over to New York for a meeting, and on his desk were a load of manuscripts 80 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:55,240 and he flew to New York, and he read it in the flight, and when he landed at JFK, the 81 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:00,120 first thing he said was, he'd phoned back, we've got to get this book, we need to get 82 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:09,120 this book from this guy, and the book was published in 2006, which was this one here, 83 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:25,480 a lot of minor ones, so it's done phenomenally well, and what it does is it 84 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,600 of life after death that's based on science, not based on anything other than a 85 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,399 of people when they have near-death experiences, what does it mean, and I then... 86 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:46,720 quantum physics, I mean the real deal, I make it my business to really understand 87 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:55,080 equations and such like, so it's scientifically based, so everything in my 88 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:01,639 on science, so when you read my books, everything is cross-referenced to academic 89 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:14,919 said extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proofs, and I work on that 90 00:09:14,919 --> 00:09:20,039 if I say something in my books that seems strange, I give my reader the opportunity to 91 00:09:20,039 --> 00:09:25,399 go and read it up themselves and go to the papers and read it up, so that's basically 92 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:41,320 by, so I love the esoteric aspects of ancient teachings and the Tibetan Book of the Dead 93 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:47,360 and the Hinduism and Jainism and going deep into the ancient texts of the Vedas and 94 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,759 like that, where you start hearing a lot about these kind of concepts, which are a 95 00:09:57,639 --> 00:10:04,039 had multiple neuroscientists on, quantum physicists on, talking about how the scien... 96 00:10:04,039 --> 00:10:08,879 to catch up to the spirituality, and they're starting to intersect, whether now it's 97 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:15,440 to a point where you can't, like your work, you can't really argue anymore about certain 98 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,440 things. 99 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,240 Absolutely, you can't, and this is the interesting thing, when I do lectures and 100 00:10:25,159 --> 00:10:29,840 at the science, you look at the quantum physics, and you look at the work of peopl... 101 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:37,519 give an example, Max Teckmark, who's Princeton University, I think, and Teckmar... 102 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:44,679 he calls the quantum suicide experiment, where he uses quantum physics to prove 103 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,559 And the interesting thing is, he uses exactly the same information I use for my model, and 104 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,320 last year. 105 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:03,840 In this one, no, it's the summer this year, sorry, in this one, I use Teckmark's 106 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,919 because he uses Everett's many-worlds interpretation, which of course you would ... 107 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:14,960 he applies that to the observer effect, the idea that we collapse the potentiality of 108 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,480 the wave function into a point particle in one location or another from a statistical 109 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,360 And if you look at the quantum physics and what the quantum physics is actually telling 110 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:35,659 us, rather than being doctrinaire about it, the evidence is there, it's in plain sight. 111 00:11:35,659 --> 00:11:38,799 You know, and everybody, when they come across my work for the first time, I do a ... 112 00:11:38,799 --> 00:11:42,279 these interviews, and I always find it extraordinary that people interviewing, 113 00:11:42,279 --> 00:11:45,320 go, oh my God, I see where you're coming from here. 114 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:59,000 idea, I've written a book with Irvin Laszlo, and I mean, Irvin, for instance, he contacted 115 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:05,720 me and said, he wanted to write a book with me on my ideas, and he invited me down to 116 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:12,879 do a talk with him down in Italy a few years ago, which was an astonishing, amazing 117 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,559 mystical tradition. 118 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:25,159 We've also got to discuss, like you mentioned the book of the dead, the bardo, and the 119 00:12:25,159 --> 00:12:28,080 stays is exactly what I describe. 120 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:35,120 I describe that at the point of death, we go into this timeless place and we live our 121 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,720 lives again. 122 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:42,120 And we live our lives again, not, not, we don't reincarnate. 123 00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:52,960 But you have the opportunity to change that life, just like Connors does in the movie 124 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,960 Groundhog Day, as of course in Groundhog Day, every day is different to him. 125 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:02,840 So what I find fascinating about your work is that you're, you're now getting to be 126 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,519 able to prove without a shadow of a doubt that there is life after death. 127 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:11,320 Can you explain, which I found fascinating about something you said earlier, what is 128 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,919 I've heard and spoken to all the leading experts in near death, Raymond Moody, all 129 00:13:21,919 --> 00:13:22,919 all those people. 130 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:28,000 I've never heard anyone talk about the chemical makeup of what happens to you. 131 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,120 So can you talk a little bit about that? 132 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,120 Yeah. 133 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,120 This is so important. 134 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,840 People tend to, when you read books on near death experiences, what you get is a series 135 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,840 of anecdotes. 136 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,840 Right. 137 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,240 You never get explanations. 138 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,720 You get, it happened to me, which is fascinating, 139 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,000 and it's interesting. 140 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,240 But we need to understand the neurological correlates 141 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,440 of what's taking place here. 142 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,600 Now, in my initial model, I argued the facilitator 143 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,520 was a neurotransmitter called glutamate. 144 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,120 And glutamate is the major neurotransmitter 145 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,759 of the mammalian brain. 146 00:13:56,759 --> 00:13:59,640 Now, it is known that at the point of death, there's 147 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,759 something called the glutamate flood, which is literally 148 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,040 causes something called excitotoxicity, which 149 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,440 means the brain starts to excrete other chemicals 150 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,160 to protect itself. 151 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,000 And I believe, initially, I initially 152 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,560 believed it was the release of these chemicals that 153 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,080 brought about the altered state of consciousness 154 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,759 and the hallucinations in raised commas 155 00:14:25,759 --> 00:14:27,480 that involved near-death experience, 156 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,840 such as feeling you're outside of your body, 157 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,759 because I've written a book on out-of-body experience 158 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,800 the feeling that time is dilating, 159 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,759 and what's called the panoramic life review. 160 00:14:38,759 --> 00:14:41,720 These are all the moody traits, as you've interviewed Ray, 161 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,480 so you will know about the moody traits. 162 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,320 But as I developed and I started writing more and more books, 163 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,040 and I was speaking to more and more scientists, 164 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,960 and more and more neurologists, and more and more researchers, 165 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,680 I came to the conclusion it could be glutamate, 166 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,759 but it also could be endogenous dimethyltryptamine, 167 00:14:59,759 --> 00:15:01,240 DMT. 168 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,840 I argue that what takes place at the point of death 169 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:13,720 is that the pineal gland starts excreting endogenous DMT, 170 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,759 internally generated DMT. 171 00:15:15,759 --> 00:15:18,400 And what it does is it synthesizes 172 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,840 from melatonin, which is the reason the pineal gland, 173 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,480 what it does is it sits just above the optic chiasma, 174 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,759 the optic nerve goes down and it crosses, 175 00:15:35,759 --> 00:15:38,960 and it directly above it is the thing called the pineal gland. 176 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,640 You know, the pineal gland is light sensitive, 177 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:46,160 and it exists initially, they believed, 178 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,840 to realize that when the pineal gland realizes it's going dark, 179 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,840 because it realizes there's less activity in the optic nerve, 180 00:15:58,519 --> 00:16:01,080 But there's more research to be suggested now 181 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,240 than it does something more than that. 182 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,519 It also starts releasing what we call, 183 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:08,759 or what the researchers I work with, called metatonin, 184 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:11,320 which is internally generated DMT. 185 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,320 Now, if this is the case, we've then got an interesting area, 186 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,880 because this means that the hallucinations 187 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,200 that people have when they have near-death experiences 188 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,640 are not dissimilar in many ways to the hallucinations brought 189 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,440 Now, again, I'm working with a number of researchers 190 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,800 in Imperial College in London who are doing research into DMT. 191 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,920 They're actually taking DMT intravenously 192 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,000 under control conditions. 193 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,400 And what they're doing when they do that, 194 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,840 they have out-of-body experiences, 195 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:47,600 they experience entities, the entities seem to know they're coming, 196 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,440 the entities seem to remember them from last time 197 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,280 He told me that he took the DMT under control conditions, 198 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,720 found himself in what's called the DMT cage, 199 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,440 which is a kind of a location in space-time. 200 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,160 And he said this alien entity came over to him 201 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,880 and prodded him on his shoulder and said, 202 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,559 "You shouldn't be doing this this way, this is wrong." 203 00:17:09,559 --> 00:17:12,680 And he said he then came back into his body and two weeks later, 204 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:13,840 he had the DMT again. 205 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,000 He was in exactly the same place 206 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,799 and the exactly the same alien came over and said to him again, 207 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:24,920 So they're starting to believe that whichever space we go into 208 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,640 when we're in DMT trips, it's real, 209 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,000 it's more real than this reality. 210 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,200 This is the illusion, this is the hallucination. 211 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,720 And then we get to the point, 212 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,799 well, what do we mean when we say hallucinations? 213 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:39,880 You know, effectively everything we perceive 214 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,519 is an hallucination created by the brain. 215 00:17:42,519 --> 00:17:45,720 The brain presents information to us from the senses. 216 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,559 It's more complex than that. 217 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:55,800 And when we're in these altered states of consciousness, 218 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,519 we can perceive different elements of reality, different. 219 00:18:00,519 --> 00:18:02,360 I hate to use the term dimensions 220 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:05,519 because I know enough about physics 221 00:18:05,519 --> 00:18:07,480 and the mathematical physics and topology 222 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,160 to know that when we talk about dimensions, 223 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,360 it's slightly more complex than that. 224 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,320 where we can perceive a broader level of reality. 225 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,400 And I call, in one of my books, 226 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,279 I have this idea that depending upon our neurological state 227 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:28,920 is how much of reality we can perceive. 228 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,320 And I call it the Hoxley and Spectrum, after all this Hoxley. 229 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,160 And I wrote a book called 230 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Opening the Doors of Perception four years ago, 231 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,320 which discusses this. 232 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,480 And remember, I mentioned about people 233 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,920 who have temporal epilepsy, 234 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,920 who have schizophrenia, people who have autism. 235 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,079 All these people, their perceptual field is wider than ours. 236 00:18:54,079 --> 00:18:58,079 And they perceive the kind of reality behind the reality, 237 00:18:58,079 --> 00:19:00,039 the reality that is part of the place you go 238 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:01,840 when you have a near-death experience. 239 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Now, again, Rick Strassman, 240 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,000 who you will probably know about the guy 241 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,200 that did the definitive research on DMT 242 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,279 at the University of New Mexico in the 1990s. 243 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,720 Rick actually argues that DMT is our reality modulator. 244 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,240 It's DMT that creates the external illusion 245 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,400 that we live within. 246 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,599 Now, again, in my new book, Cheating the Ferryman, 247 00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:25,559 I not only argue that, 248 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:28,599 but I do the science that this is a simulation. 249 00:19:28,599 --> 00:19:31,759 And I do the science of how the simulation works. 250 00:19:31,759 --> 00:19:33,320 So, unlike a lot of other writers, 251 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,240 every area I believe I can explain every single 252 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,680 from poltergeists, to ghosts, to telekinesis, 253 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,039 to telepathy, to out-of-body experiences, 254 00:19:48,039 --> 00:19:49,320 to near-death experiences. 255 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,800 My model explains it all completely and utterly, 256 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,880 starting from the starting point of science. 257 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,680 - So, okay, this is just so fascinating to me. 258 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,240 All right, so you're basically saying, 259 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,039 we were talking about simulation theory 260 00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:06,160 and that the, we're talking about many things, 261 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,840 but one thing you're talking about simulation theories 262 00:20:09,079 --> 00:20:11,720 and that we create this illusion with our minds, 263 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,519 which is what Hindus have been saying before Maya 264 00:20:16,519 --> 00:20:19,440 for like 5,000 years at this point. 265 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,840 So that's, again, when the old and the newer 266 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:22,800 are coming together. 267 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,079 And in multiple cultures, 268 00:20:24,079 --> 00:20:25,759 even in the American Indian culture 269 00:20:25,759 --> 00:20:28,000 and the Native American cultures, 270 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,840 Aboriginal cultures, all of them, 271 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,160 this is the great dream, the illusion. 272 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,720 This is a concept that's been in our zeitgeist, 273 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:40,200 but now we're just catching up with the science, 274 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,160 which is, again, the matrix. 275 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,400 I use the matrix, we're basically, 276 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,360 that was the first time. 277 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:47,200 It's the matrix, yeah, 278 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,200 and you're able to see beyond what is normally perceived. 279 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,680 And there is this, and then I've talked to experts 280 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,519 about the flow, being in the flow, 281 00:20:57,519 --> 00:20:59,800 where all of the things that you're talking about happen, 282 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,720 time slows down, everything becomes clear, 283 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,519 that you wouldn't normally perceive 284 00:21:08,519 --> 00:21:10,160 when you fall into the flow, 285 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,120 athletically or creatively or in science, 286 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,599 or wherever, when you're focused, 287 00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:16,079 there's these altered states, 288 00:21:16,079 --> 00:21:18,640 and it all goes back down to altered states, 289 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,120 it's fascinating, it sounds to me 290 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:22,440 from what you're talking about, 291 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,759 is that you've now been able to explain 292 00:21:24,759 --> 00:21:27,599 not only the altered state of near-death experience, 293 00:21:27,599 --> 00:21:31,240 which you believe now, based on the science, 294 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,160 It's not a delusion, it's not a dream state. 295 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,120 It is, no, we're in the dream state, 296 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:42,360 we're actually going to the real state, if you will, 297 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:45,079 is that makes, we're waking up from this 298 00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:47,320 to go to where we're at. 299 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,680 So- - Absolutely, and it's so important 300 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,360 that we, I spend a lot of time discussing 301 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:55,039 when we use the term hallucination, 302 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:56,599 what we actually mean. 303 00:21:56,599 --> 00:21:58,599 And if you turn around and read the books 304 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,240 what you'll find is that scientists and neurologists 305 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,200 have no idea what an hallucination is, not at all. 306 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,039 I mean, the world famous psychiatrist, Oliver Sacks, 307 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:16,200 the last book he wrote was hallucinations. 308 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,800 And in his book, as in my book, 309 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,320 I'm fascinated by things such as Charles Bonnet syndrome, 310 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,160 where people who were losing their sight starts seeing people 311 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,640 including my own mother. 312 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,320 And in fact, on my own podcast, 313 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,200 I've interviewed two or three people 314 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,240 that have Charles Bonnet syndrome. 315 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,599 And it's extraordinary, it's absolutely extraordinary. 316 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:42,920 They see little people, again, elves, 317 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,800 again, one of the areas I'm fascinated in. 318 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,800 What is the role of aliens, what a graze really? 319 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,320 This kind of thing. 320 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,800 And again, the hypothesis says that the graze 321 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,240 that's between this reality and the next reality. 322 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,759 And again, I go down to the belief systems 323 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:04,559 of things like Gnosticism. 324 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:07,119 The Gnostics believe that there's a reality 325 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,519 behind this reality called the pluroma. 326 00:23:09,519 --> 00:23:11,680 And we exist in something called a Kenoma, 327 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,880 which is a created world, 328 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,400 created by what they call the Demiurge Alderboff. 329 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,240 And we're trapped within it. 330 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,200 Of course, this is a central thesis of the Matrix movies. 331 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,599 we're now doing the science. 332 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:30,519 So we know that there's a massive area of research 333 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:34,039 we've done at the moment on the holographic universe. 334 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:35,480 And the idea that everything we exist 335 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,280 is within is a holographic simulation. 336 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,440 But again, I do the science of this. 337 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,599 And I quote, for instance, 338 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:44,519 I have an extensive section quoting 339 00:23:44,519 --> 00:23:48,559 and looking at the last paper that Stephen Hawking wrote 340 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:49,400 about black holes. 341 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,700 It's to do with black holes. 342 00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:55,800 It's to do with how black holes process information. 343 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,759 We are in an information field. 344 00:23:57,759 --> 00:24:01,240 This is a data field that we're within. 345 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,920 I also argue that we also have our programming 346 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,759 within ourselves, within our DNA. 347 00:24:05,759 --> 00:24:08,240 DNA itself, the codons of DNA, 348 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,119 the four letters of DNA are part of the encoding. 349 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,680 And I sometimes feel that it's like, 350 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,519 I've got all the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle. 351 00:24:16,519 --> 00:24:18,360 And all I need to do is to get a group 352 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,140 spend a weekend and thrash this all out 353 00:24:23,140 --> 00:24:24,619 and makes real sense of it. 354 00:24:24,619 --> 00:24:28,099 Because it does make sense. 355 00:24:28,099 --> 00:24:29,980 Now, if, and if it is a simulation, 356 00:24:29,980 --> 00:24:31,099 we've then got to come down to, 357 00:24:31,099 --> 00:24:33,400 well, who creates the simulation? 358 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,259 You know, is the simulation being designed in some way? 359 00:24:37,259 --> 00:24:42,539 If it has, it's for what purpose? 360 00:24:42,539 --> 00:24:44,860 And it all then becomes very interesting 361 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,360 'cause one of the areas of my theory we haven't discussed yet, 362 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:53,240 this is so much of it, I can talk for hours. 363 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,079 - Oh, yeah, I know. 364 00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:57,280 - But there's the idea that we are all dual personalities. 365 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,240 We're all two creatures. 366 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,000 I call it the Edelon and the Daemon. 367 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,880 Now, imagine that your life is like your, 368 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,099 there's a computer simulation of your life, 369 00:25:07,099 --> 00:25:11,680 an RPG game, third-person RPG game 370 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,840 that contains all the outcomes of every decision 371 00:25:16,460 --> 00:25:19,400 You get born and you're an on-screen sprite. 372 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,780 So what you do is, now in my generation, 373 00:25:21,780 --> 00:25:23,500 I used to play Tomb Raider. 374 00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:24,460 So imagine Tomb Raider. 375 00:25:24,460 --> 00:25:27,460 You start Tomb Raider up, there's Lara Croft. 376 00:25:27,460 --> 00:25:28,780 She's born for the first time. 377 00:25:28,780 --> 00:25:30,140 She has no history, no past. 378 00:25:30,140 --> 00:25:31,340 She doesn't remember what she is. 379 00:25:31,340 --> 00:25:34,220 She just knows she's existing in this environment. 380 00:25:34,220 --> 00:25:35,500 She runs down a corridor, 381 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:38,539 goes into a room as a big monster and it kills her. 382 00:25:38,539 --> 00:25:40,720 She goes back to the start of the game. 383 00:25:44,220 --> 00:25:45,599 and there's a new version of her, 384 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:47,780 a new sprite created and a new game. 385 00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:52,240 I call the on-screen sprite the Edelon. 386 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,640 This is again from Gnosticism. 387 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,559 This is a Gnostical term. 388 00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:58,280 The Edelon is the facsimile person. 389 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,480 However, what's now happened is there's a game player 390 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,440 who has witnessed the first incident 391 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,880 where she gets killed by the monster 392 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,320 and it suddenly is aware of itself 393 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,039 and that's the Daemon. 394 00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:19,800 And what the Daemon does is it plays the game of your life 395 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,840 and it tests and allows you to follow every path 396 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,440 you can possibly follow in your life in order to explore. 397 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,599 So the Daemon is that being inside of you 398 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:31,800 and I guarantee you've had it. 399 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,240 Now I guarantee a lot of your listeners have had it. 400 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,720 You know, when you get that sensation, 401 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,440 you meet somebody and you go, 402 00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:42,200 There's something here that's not right. 403 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,640 That's your Daemon. 404 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,200 It's your Daemon going. 405 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,880 Last time this person was a problem. 406 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,200 Now, depending upon how far you are 407 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,160 along my Hoxley and Spectrum, 408 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,960 is how effective your Daemon can communicate. 409 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,880 I have an associate of mine, for instance, 410 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,000 Myron Dial, who's a Californian artist. 411 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,280 His Daemon manifested when he was four years old 412 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,880 and has been with him all his life. 413 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,000 And she's lived Daemon's Myron's life before 414 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,840 and guides him. 415 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,440 I also wrote a book 416 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,280 on the American science fiction writer, Philip K. Dick, 417 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,519 specifically because Philip K. Dick had so many experiences 418 00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:23,680 that I can explain. 419 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:25,960 because Philip K. Dick had so many experiences that I can explain through my 420 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,259 Including predicting me, which is really weird. This is this blow your mind. Do you 421 00:27:31,259 --> 00:27:40,200 K. Dick? Yeah, of course. Okay, he wrote a book called Martian Time Slip. Is it Martian 422 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:52,640 no, Counter Clock World, Counter Clock World. In Counter Clock World, he has a character 423 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:58,640 that comes up with a new theory about life after death and does lots of ideas about 424 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,720 kind of things. Now he could have called that person anything in the world, couldn't he? 425 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,400 said just imagine if Philip K. Dick could see his own future, an old alternative future 426 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,720 and he'd seen a bookcase and he'd seen my book on him. And he'd just seen my name on 427 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,560 it, you know. Do I necessarily believe that? I'm not necessarily sure, but it is. It's 428 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,680 fun. It's fun to think about. And go on. Sorry. 429 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,080 is it called? 430 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,080 Daemon, yeah. 431 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,240 Daemon. Okay, so the daemon sounds to me, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds 432 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:49,800 to me that it could be interpreted as a soul. A consciousness. Something that's driving, 433 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,920 something that is aware of itself. 434 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,920 Yes. 435 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,120 And so on the mystical standpoint, it could be a soul, it could be consciousness. And 436 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,400 went right by really quickly. And I want to stop and go back to it. You said, the more 437 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:15,280 times it's lived, the better it can navigate this avatar or daemon, you know, or the 438 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,280 Edelon. 439 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,280 The Edelon. 440 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:23,440 The body. So the Edelon is the body. The daemon is the soul. For lack of a better w... 441 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,440 say. 442 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,440 Yes. 443 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,960 about in regards to Ascended Masters. 444 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:37,960 Yeah. 445 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,440 Because Ascended Masters have lived multiple lives and have now transcended to the place 446 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:49,920 where they can stop playing the game. And they go, oh, I understand what the truth is. 447 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:02,440 Or choose to come back and be a bodhisattva within Buddhism. 448 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:08,920 Right. And again with Ascended Masters, many of them choose to stay and help behind the 449 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,920 scenes. 450 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,680 Like, you know, because I've said this to so many near-death experiences. I'm like, 451 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,519 Jesus is a busy guy. He's all, he's all, I mean, he's working constantly. 452 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:29,600 works here very effectively, because I argue that Connors lives that life. And I 453 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:35,519 Danny Rubin, who was the guy that wrote the original script. And he said he theorized 454 00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:41,080 that he would have about 6,000, 7,000 lives. And you remember at the end of the movie, 455 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,280 after he's lived the life many times, the day many times, he's running around the town 456 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,680 trying to save people. He's under the tree to catch the kid. 457 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:59,180 to help people. And again, I wrote a book on the British playwright called J.B. Priestly. 458 00:30:59,180 --> 00:31:04,880 And Priestly wrote a play in the 1930s called I Have Been Here Before. And that's exactly 459 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,440 the central principle. One of the characters is going back into his lives to stop a couple 460 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,720 you know, I feel that the idea of reincarnation is very buddhic beguiling. I 461 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:28,640 how it can be iterative, how you can grow if you don't remember your past lives. There 462 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,720 has to be a part of you that remembers your past lives to help you grow, which in 463 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,240 within reincarnation, there isn't that model. So there has to be the universal you. And 464 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,360 the concept of pandeism, the idea that we're all one singular consciousness experiencing 465 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,720 itself subjectively. Correct. You know, the Bill Hicks thing. And what I argue is that 466 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,880 there is the Edelon, which is the in game that lives one life and then dies, which is 467 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,039 you and I at the moment when we're acting normally and everything else. Then there is 468 00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:08,320 the daemon that lives your life many, many times. Then there is what I call the uber 469 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:19,200 that's the whole, the whole memories of the whole of humanity. And that's where 470 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,720 takes up. That's where past lives become. It's because you're going past your daemon 471 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,200 into the uber daemon. And you're remembering the past lives of the uber daemon, which 472 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,720 that suddenly you can remember being Henry VIII or living in Victorian times. Then I 473 00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:48,400 is effectively the collective consciousness of everything. Now, again, this goes back, 474 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,400 doesn't it, to mystical traditions. Because of course, trying to find the daemon is what 475 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,080 mystical traditions have been trying to do all the time. You're trying to find your 476 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:03,120 for yourself. Yeah, higher self. And I then argue that if you look at some of the 477 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,039 all this hoax they came up with this idea that all religions have a perennial 478 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:17,760 at the at its in its mystical core. All religions have the same ideas. Because if ... 479 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:23,360 teachings of Sufism, you look at teachings of the Gnostics, you look at the teachings 480 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:32,039 of the Vedanta, all the major religions, they all have the same concept that God is 481 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:44,740 the consciousness of everything. And within within Vedanta, you have the concept of 482 00:33:44,740 --> 00:33:49,680 And we're all that we're all dreams of Brahman. So again, the theory, although it... 483 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:56,320 in science, every single religious tradition, every single mystical tradition, and the 484 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,480 of mystical groups that have invited me to speak because they've said, you know, you're 485 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:10,119 I'll go, you've already you've done it. You've already done it. And I get I get ve... 486 00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:15,960 when that happens. I also get quite frustrated because I really do believe I'v... 487 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:22,119 together. It sounds vain. I'm not vain. I'm an enthusiast. I'm like you. I just love 488 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:28,920 And for me, this may be just hypothetical. And do I genuinely believe it? I don't know. 489 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:39,720 Well, and you said something a few seconds ago to that, how can we continue to learn 490 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:44,960 if we don't remember our past lives? Well, Laura Croft doesn't remember. 491 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,159 He got a spot on. You've got it. 492 00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,480 But the player, but the player does. 493 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,480 Yep. 494 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,680 And and that's and that's for people. Again, I'm trying to I'm trying to bring it down 495 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,280 to earth for people that might not might get lost in our conversation is that Laura Croft 496 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,920 player does. And when we start walking down that hall, I might want to go into that and 497 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:16,159 there's something that will stop me. And I'll get upset. But I want to go in that door. 498 00:35:16,159 --> 00:35:21,320 And something is something is saying, no, no, no, this is not good for you. You need to 499 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:34,539 go back and you go, my God, 45 people died by that monster. If I would have gone into 500 00:35:34,539 --> 00:35:41,559 that door, I would have died. Who is watching out for me? Who is, you know, and for 45 501 00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:47,159 souls, that was that was the moment that they needed to learn to is a monster in that room. 502 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:58,320 this is the evolution of the soul, the higher, the higher, the higher self in in 503 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:04,559 obtain becoming an ascended master and to quit to have the opportunity to quit the 504 00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:08,680 When you've now beaten the game, and you can go off and now you can go off and leave to 505 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,920 another another game, another level of an of a higher level that we don't know about, 506 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,600 go, OK, here's how you can help here here and give tips along the way. 507 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:29,199 And this is I find this amazing that people, people get my hypothesis so wrong cheating 508 00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:32,400 the fairing the amount of times people say, I don't want to live my life over and over 509 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:39,600 again, it's terrible. And I think just think about it for a second, think that that 510 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:48,600 there is the outcome of every decision you can possibly make. And again, that's not a 511 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:55,039 statement I'm making that that is the top down hypothesis of Stephen Hawking and Frank 512 00:36:55,039 --> 00:37:01,119 Hawking and Hartle. Oh, Thomas Hirtog, sorry. So it's something that, you know, it fits 513 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:06,240 in with with physics, but you've got to extrapolate this and say, hold on a minute... 514 00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:17,920 you can experience, but the decisions your life and how you've lived your life is also 515 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,159 dependent upon the decisions of your parents and your grandparents and your great 516 00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:30,440 So in which case, in the multiverse, every possible scenario that can happen will happen 517 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,559 to you. And again, there's a very famous British writer, British science writer cal... 518 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:46,880 in London. And he argues that and the book title actually says anything that can happen 519 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,840 will everything that can happen will happen. So when people turn around and say, but isn't 520 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:57,199 it your idea terrible because a child could be born with a congenital illness, be in 521 00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:02,380 for six months and die. And that will happen over and over again for all eternity for that 522 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:12,920 your universe, in your perceptual field. But in that child's perceptual field, there will 523 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,800 be a universe that that child will be born in where they found a cure for that disease, 524 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,720 because all diseases are genetic in basis. And that child will exist in that universe 525 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,760 and live a normal life. 526 00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:42,420 are attaching a moral, moral judgment points, yes, on what's happening. So, and I use this, 527 00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:49,100 I use this, I use this example all the time. An event happens. It is what it is. It has 528 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:02,000 at birth by who we are, our religion, our, our community, our parents, all of this that 529 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:09,880 puts that on. So in our point of view, you shouldn't have slavery, right? I'm speaking 530 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:15,240 for you as a generous slavery is bad. It's not something that should have ever happened. 531 00:39:22,780 --> 00:39:29,380 my declaration of independence, who left your country were slave owners, and it was 532 00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:35,079 cool with it. That was the moralistic code at that point. Now we look at it as different. 533 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:42,820 So I use this example, a car accident, a fender bender, the person who gets hit and 534 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:56,760 have now attached a negative aspect to that. But when they, they, they towed the car to 535 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:05,240 the mechanic, great day. I got business. Yeah. Same event, two different perspectives. 536 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:08,600 And I would argue just to butt in very quickly, because it's quite an important 537 00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:18,100 turn around to me and say, you know, I'm having a terrible time of it at the moment... 538 00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:22,740 is awful. This, that and the other. And I'll argue it's because the Damon is positioning 539 00:40:22,740 --> 00:40:28,820 you. The Damon needs to position you in certain ways to get you to where it wants ... 540 00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:34,539 So it might have to put you through all that pain and trauma because it knows ultimately 541 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:45,400 you know, and, you know, I, you know, it's planning and it's thinking its way through. 542 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,480 And indeed, many ways the Damon might just think, you know what, last time I didn't 543 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:55,000 that person. I'll do it this time just to see what happens because that's what you do 544 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,559 in computer games. Don't you think, well, Laura Croft, I want us to go down there. I 545 00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:01,559 know there's a monster there, but there might be something in the other side of the monster 546 00:40:58,519 --> 00:40:59,480 I know there's a monster there, 547 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,799 but there might be something on the other side 548 00:41:00,799 --> 00:41:03,400 of the monster room if I can get her through. 549 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,799 And they might try dozens of times to get her through that room. 550 00:41:06,799 --> 00:41:10,519 And dozens of Adelons will be killed, 551 00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:12,839 but ultimately the daemon gets through the room. 552 00:41:12,839 --> 00:41:15,880 And that makes life really exciting, 553 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,920 'cause it means that I can do all the things 554 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,159 that I've always dreamed of doing, 555 00:41:23,279 --> 00:41:26,839 I won't remember it, but my daemon will, you know. 556 00:41:26,839 --> 00:41:30,559 - It is a very interesting way of looking about things. 557 00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:35,559 Again, we as humans, and correct me if I'm wrong, 558 00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:39,719 are programmed to not to suffer. 559 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,679 We don't want to suffer, we don't want pain. 560 00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:44,039 We want to gain pleasure and avoid pain. 561 00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:47,920 This is a general consensus of what we are built to do 562 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,119 the things that you go through, 563 00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,079 I mean, I've gone through a lot of things in my life. 564 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,480 I've written books about my experiences 565 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,599 that were traumatic, that shaped my life. 566 00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:09,279 But looking back, I go, I wouldn't change it, 567 00:42:09,279 --> 00:42:11,319 because I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today 568 00:42:11,319 --> 00:42:13,000 without going through it. 569 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,839 If I wouldn't have almost made a $20 million movie 570 00:42:20,759 --> 00:42:24,000 and then go and meet the biggest movie stars in the world 571 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,239 and do the tour of Hollywood and have big meetings 572 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,199 in penthouses and the Chateau Marmont and all that stuff. 573 00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:33,400 At 26, while my life is being threatened 574 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,759 on a daily basis by polar gangster for a year, 575 00:42:36,759 --> 00:42:42,799 I wouldn't have launched my first podcast 10 years later, 576 00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:48,719 avoid the pitfalls of the filmmaking business. 577 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,559 Without that experience, I wouldn't have done that. 578 00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:55,239 And then that experience of being a podcaster for seven years 579 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,839 made me think about deeper questions 580 00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:00,199 and launched this podcast, 581 00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:05,039 where now I am now trying to help people along their path, 582 00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:07,880 not just as a filmmaker, but as a spirit, 583 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,440 as a player of the game, and to talk about these ideas 584 00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:18,000 - And do you know what I'd say here? 585 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,880 I'd say that both our lives have had a path 586 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,480 that has led to this moment here. 587 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,319 - Correct. 588 00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:27,400 - And us having this conversation, 589 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,000 and I say this when I do my talks, 590 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,239 because it's extraordinary how you find yourself 591 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,799 in certain locations and you meet people. 592 00:43:34,799 --> 00:43:36,519 We need to talk far more. 593 00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:38,119 We've got so much to talk about. 594 00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:40,599 We really have Alex, you know, I just know that. 595 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,440 - But you know, the idea of how you just, 596 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,319 you meet people, I'm finding this now, 597 00:43:45,319 --> 00:43:48,159 the amount of people that are coming into my life, 598 00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:49,400 and they're all coming in for a reason. 599 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,840 And it doesn't mean that I'm delusional. 600 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,319 It doesn't mean that I'm important or anything else. 601 00:43:54,319 --> 00:43:56,920 It just means that we collectively, 602 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,440 and I'm including you in this, 'cause you clicked. 603 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,480 Well, I do a lot of these podcasts and interviews. 604 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,319 - Thank you. 605 00:44:03,319 --> 00:44:04,679 - And it's unusual for somebody to get it, 606 00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:07,440 absolutely get it, you know, and resonate with it. 607 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,719 So thank you for that. 608 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:09,559 - Thank you. 609 00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:13,239 and we're all sitting around, you know, 610 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,679 we meet up regularly and we go, 611 00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:16,719 okay, what are we supposed to do? 612 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,960 What does our daemons want us to do now? 613 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,920 And it just means that we're gonna do something, 614 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,799 and I don't know what it is. 615 00:44:25,799 --> 00:44:28,039 I wish I knew, but our daemons do. 616 00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:31,759 And you find all your time that your daemon is saying, 617 00:44:31,759 --> 00:44:33,199 okay, just bear with this. 618 00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:35,519 You know, the times are difficult now, 619 00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:38,159 but there is a reason for this. 620 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,400 I argue that we're all existing in our own phanorons, 621 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,400 is a term, Charles Stuart Pierce, 622 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,039 the American philosopher came up with the term 623 00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:49,799 of the phanoron, 'cause I deal a lot with philosophy. 624 00:44:49,799 --> 00:44:52,480 In my new book, I have a whole section on the philosophy 625 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,199 of the eternal return or the eternal recurrence, 626 00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:57,279 which is effectively what I'm talking about here. 627 00:44:57,279 --> 00:44:58,119 - Sure. 628 00:44:58,119 --> 00:44:59,119 - And Pierce was one of the people 629 00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:01,000 that was fascinated by this. 630 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,719 And he argued that we all collapse, 631 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,559 he wouldn't have used collapsing the wave function 632 00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:07,199 'cause it's a quantum physics term. 633 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,079 we all exist within our own created world 634 00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:14,819 and our worlds overlap on other people's worlds 635 00:45:14,819 --> 00:45:16,679 when we interface with them. 636 00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:18,279 So you and I are now creating 637 00:45:18,279 --> 00:45:20,880 what I call an egregorial reality, 638 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,840 because in my last, second to last book, 639 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,000 the Hidden Universe, I argue that we create 640 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,960 the ghosts around us. 641 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,480 We create the polting ice. 642 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,759 We create the entities because there's a symbiotic 643 00:45:33,759 --> 00:45:36,319 relationship between us and them. 644 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,159 but the tulpa becomes independent of you. 645 00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:46,039 And again, myself and a group of associates 646 00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:50,480 are planning to recreate the famous Philip experiment 647 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,679 from 1970, you know, or a group of people created an entity 648 00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:59,279 or created a ghost, which then became independent of them. 649 00:45:59,279 --> 00:46:04,279 And I believe that we are co-creating our realities 650 00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:12,880 And the egregore gets bigger. 651 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,480 You know, I find that when myself and my group meet, 652 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,559 the electricity we can create metaphorically 653 00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:19,920 is just extraordinary. 654 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,239 - Well, let me ask you this, 'cause this is very interesting. 655 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,960 You've heard of the concept of vibration, right? 656 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,559 Obviously, the vibrations of people of, 657 00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:34,319 in the mystics terms, the higher you are 658 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,599 you vibrate at a higher frequency. 659 00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:45,599 And higher frequencies attract higher frequencies. 660 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:49,079 A higher frequency does not and cannot 661 00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:51,079 attract a lower frequency. 662 00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:52,840 They repel each other as a general, 663 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,799 it's like almost a magnetism. 664 00:46:54,799 --> 00:46:58,239 So that's why when you see, you know, 665 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,359 yogis in India walking the streets, 666 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,440 They're generally not beaten up. 667 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,400 That is not a thing that you hear about in India. 668 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,019 There's other crime against other people. 669 00:47:13,019 --> 00:47:16,960 And this is something very interesting to me 670 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,159 'cause I, again, for that year was living 671 00:47:20,159 --> 00:47:25,159 in a group of people who vibrationally didn't connect 672 00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:29,159 with me, which were gangsters. 673 00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:30,000 - Yeah. 674 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,960 - You know, retired gangsters, 675 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,079 So they had a gangstri energy to them. 676 00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:42,679 And I watched and witnessed what it was like 677 00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:46,880 when they interacted with people in the film industry 678 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,019 at a high level. 679 00:47:48,019 --> 00:47:51,559 And I was always fascinated and I've only, 680 00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:53,779 only back and going back looking at it go, 681 00:47:53,779 --> 00:47:57,500 you know, sometimes they mix really well. 682 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,199 Other times you could just see that when they walked 683 00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:07,880 in the room, it just, the person just like, I can't, 684 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,719 I can't, and we all feel that way. 685 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:10,880 Sometimes you meet people and you're like, 686 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,719 I, there's something wrong here. 687 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,840 I don't feel this, this is not right. 688 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,199 But I'd argue as well to say that 689 00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:21,359 you and I have gotten to this point. 690 00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:22,920 Our lives have brought us to this point 691 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,199 as we're speaking right now. 692 00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:28,579 10 years ago, if you would have crossed my path, 693 00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:35,039 because I wouldn't have been anywhere near 694 00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:37,880 the place I am right now to have an intelligent 695 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,519 conversation about what you're talking about. 696 00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:41,359 You see what I mean? 697 00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:42,400 It wasn't the time. 698 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,359 It wasn't the time. 699 00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:45,840 Just like when you meet a mate, I always tell my wife, 700 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,000 I'm like, if we would have met in high school, 701 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,079 you would have never gone out with me 702 00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:51,880 'cause I was a mess. 703 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,239 And our energies were not anywhere near to each other 704 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,960 because it just, we weren't. 705 00:49:00,059 --> 00:49:03,259 that we met at a certain time that made sense. 706 00:49:03,259 --> 00:49:05,980 That's why we didn't meet a year earlier 707 00:49:05,980 --> 00:49:08,659 or two years earlier or five years later. 708 00:49:08,659 --> 00:49:10,340 It was a perfect scenario. 709 00:49:10,340 --> 00:49:12,619 So the vibrational aspect of things 710 00:49:12,619 --> 00:49:14,859 which has been talked about in mysticism 711 00:49:14,859 --> 00:49:19,659 for many, many years across multiple cultures 712 00:49:19,659 --> 00:49:23,219 throughout the world is something that's interesting 713 00:49:23,219 --> 00:49:25,859 on a scientific standpoint to look at 714 00:49:30,859 --> 00:49:34,819 And when certain people like, 715 00:49:34,819 --> 00:49:36,659 you just can't get to certain people. 716 00:49:36,659 --> 00:49:39,440 I've had the opportunity to meet very famous people 717 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,319 and worked with very famous people in my life, 718 00:49:41,319 --> 00:49:43,219 movie stars that you would know. 719 00:49:43,219 --> 00:49:45,859 And when I walk into a room with them, 720 00:49:45,859 --> 00:49:49,859 I sometimes I'll go, oh, I understand. 721 00:49:49,859 --> 00:49:50,699 I understand. 722 00:49:50,699 --> 00:49:53,079 There's an energy to them. 723 00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:55,539 They suck the energy out of the room. 724 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,380 It's a fascinating concept. 725 00:49:58,380 --> 00:49:59,539 It's fascinating. 726 00:49:59,539 --> 00:50:02,019 It's fascinating to see when you're talking 727 00:50:02,019 --> 00:50:07,099 to a movie star, a blockbuster movie star in their house 728 00:50:07,099 --> 00:50:08,819 and you're speaking to them and you're going, 729 00:50:08,819 --> 00:50:12,039 I feel it, I understand it. 730 00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:14,980 They might not be a particularly nice person 731 00:50:14,980 --> 00:50:17,059 or well-adjusted person. 732 00:50:17,059 --> 00:50:18,699 They're not better or worse, 733 00:50:18,699 --> 00:50:21,259 but there's that thing that they have 734 00:50:21,259 --> 00:50:24,940 that is built in them to get what they have in life, 735 00:50:27,059 --> 00:50:29,500 And there's something really fascinating. 736 00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:32,899 And then I've met very powerful people 737 00:50:32,899 --> 00:50:34,859 in the film industry who are not behind the scenes 738 00:50:34,859 --> 00:50:36,819 and you just go, okay, 739 00:50:36,819 --> 00:50:38,460 I understand why they're able to do 740 00:50:38,460 --> 00:50:40,059 what they do behind the scenes. 741 00:50:40,059 --> 00:50:41,899 I've been a character study for most of my life. 742 00:50:41,899 --> 00:50:44,779 I love watching characters and analyzing things. 743 00:50:44,779 --> 00:50:47,139 But when you throw the mysticism in it 744 00:50:47,139 --> 00:50:48,779 and you throw, you know, 745 00:50:48,779 --> 00:50:50,819 spirituality in it and you start looking at things 746 00:50:50,819 --> 00:50:52,699 that are different with a different lens. 747 00:50:52,699 --> 00:50:54,800 And then you throw the science lens into it. 748 00:50:58,139 --> 00:50:59,300 So that was my hypothesis. 749 00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:03,500 I feel that you and I energetically and vibrationally 750 00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:08,500 are at a place where we now, when we met, we go, got it. 751 00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:11,739 - This is the question, isn't it, of resonance? 752 00:51:11,739 --> 00:51:13,319 - Resonance, thank you, that's a good word. 753 00:51:13,319 --> 00:51:14,500 - And it really is. 754 00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:18,500 And I find that the people I've got around me now 755 00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:21,980 that are part of my world resonate with me. 756 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,719 and we bounce ideas off each other like we're doing now. 757 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,880 You know, there's so much I need to talk to you about, 758 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,440 you know, when we need to have a Zoom chat. 759 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,559 - Absolutely, absolutely. 760 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,359 - And you get that kind of buzz 761 00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:41,679 and this kind of feeling almost elation 762 00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:43,759 when you have these conversations 763 00:51:43,759 --> 00:51:45,079 and you get so excited. 764 00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:47,519 And as you say, there are other people that can just drain you. 765 00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:49,480 Like you were saying there about meeting people. 766 00:51:51,539 --> 00:51:55,719 And I knew there was something, he had dead eyes. 767 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,259 And you know, the way there's some people, 768 00:51:58,259 --> 00:52:02,059 however hard you try, you cannot find common ground with. 769 00:52:02,059 --> 00:52:02,899 - Correct. 770 00:52:02,899 --> 00:52:04,980 - Oh, yes, absolutely. 771 00:52:04,980 --> 00:52:08,659 - And you go, is it me, what is it here 772 00:52:08,659 --> 00:52:10,859 that people just don't get it? 773 00:52:10,859 --> 00:52:11,899 And they're not even interested, 774 00:52:11,899 --> 00:52:13,539 the kind of stuff we're interested in, 775 00:52:13,539 --> 00:52:15,579 the vast majority of people out there, 776 00:52:15,579 --> 00:52:19,300 don't even, they're not even vaguely interested. 777 00:52:23,279 --> 00:52:24,679 and I'm sure you went through this as well, 778 00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:29,679 is when you are in a state of, I need to survive, 779 00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:34,179 a survival state, and a victim state, 780 00:52:34,179 --> 00:52:36,659 which I was for many, many years. 781 00:52:36,659 --> 00:52:39,800 And that life happens to me, 782 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,719 as opposed to changing the idea of life happens for me. 783 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:44,559 - Yes. 784 00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:48,359 - Which is where we are talking about as the game, 785 00:52:51,139 --> 00:52:52,500 so now I've gotten to a point in my life 786 00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:56,420 when something is happening that I am not happy with, 787 00:52:56,420 --> 00:52:59,579 I have to stop and go, okay, why is this happening? 788 00:52:59,579 --> 00:53:02,579 Who, what's the point of this? 789 00:53:02,579 --> 00:53:03,779 Because nothing is pointless. 790 00:53:03,779 --> 00:53:06,179 Every single thing that happens to us in our life, 791 00:53:06,179 --> 00:53:08,019 there is a point to it. 792 00:53:08,019 --> 00:53:12,460 That is talked about in ancient mysticism, spirituality, 793 00:53:12,460 --> 00:53:15,219 and now in your hypothesis as well. 794 00:53:15,219 --> 00:53:17,019 Everything is teaching us something. 795 00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:22,759 I've met this person who I would never meet 796 00:53:22,759 --> 00:53:26,679 in a million years, and he's definitely not somebody 797 00:53:26,679 --> 00:53:31,000 I would wanna hang out with, but he's been put on my path. 798 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,719 Why is he putting on my path? 799 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,960 Is he, what is he supposed to be doing for me? 800 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,199 And I needed to learn a lesson. 801 00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,000 So this happened recently, I had a situation 802 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,800 where a person came into my life, short time, 803 00:53:48,679 --> 00:53:49,899 Why is this happening? 804 00:53:49,899 --> 00:53:52,920 And then it forced me into a situation, 805 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,880 which I got myself into, by the way. 806 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,519 And when I got in there, I was like, okay, I'm here now. 807 00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:02,899 How can I not only, what do I need to learn here? 808 00:54:02,899 --> 00:54:04,880 I literally stopped and said this. 809 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,960 I said, why is this happening? 810 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,500 What am I here to learn? 811 00:54:09,500 --> 00:54:11,019 And when you ask those kind of questions, 812 00:54:11,019 --> 00:54:13,139 answers do appear in your mind. 813 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,199 to see if I can break free from this same thing 814 00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:24,319 that I've been doing throughout my life, 815 00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:25,960 and I haven't learned a lesson yet. 816 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,920 And in order to move over to the next level, 817 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,840 I need to break this pattern. 818 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,440 - And through multiple lives. 819 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,279 - Right, exactly. 820 00:54:33,279 --> 00:54:34,239 - Make mistakes. 821 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,359 - Exactly. 822 00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:37,639 - Very quickly, do you know the novel, 823 00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:40,319 the strange life of Ivan Ahsoka? 824 00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:41,159 - I've heard of it. 825 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,360 I've heard of it, I don't, I don't read it, read it because that is very much the idea 826 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:51,280 of even though you have the opportunity with knowledge to live a period of your life 827 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,000 you still make the same mistakes. 828 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:59,200 - Oh, absolutely, and so once I was able to break free from that, then I was like, I did 829 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:10,519 was like, oh, I don't have to, I don't have to deal with this again, I'm good. 830 00:55:10,519 --> 00:55:14,720 And I've said this so many times, and I think you can back me up on this, is that 831 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:20,480 our lives, at first, when there's a lesson to learn, especially major lesson in lives, 832 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,560 like major things that we need to learn in this life, we get a whisper at the beginning, 833 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,560 in, and when the sledgehammer doesn't work, that's when the car accident comes in. 834 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,800 - Yeah, it's the daemon going, "For God's sake, listen, you idiot." 835 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:40,800 - Right, right. 836 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,480 - And it gets more and more frustrated, literally, it's just smack you in the face... 837 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:45,480 wake up, yeah. 838 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,360 - And that has happened to us so many times, it happened to me many times in my life where 839 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,880 I just kept making the same mistake, like when people are like, oh, I keep dating the 840 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,400 I've dated, they've been horrible, I'm like, maybe it's you. 841 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:02,400 (laughing) 842 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,080 - You're manifesting them, you know. 843 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,800 - Maybe something, maybe they're being sent to you to teach you that you need to change 844 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,120 and how you're looking at things. 845 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,400 I always use this example, my cousin, when he was younger, every time he would go to 846 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,320 a club, he'd get into a fight. 847 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,539 And he'd talk to me, he's like, man, I don't know what happened, man, every single time 848 00:56:26,539 --> 00:56:31,440 I'd go out, these guys just want to start fighting me, and I got to start fighting. 849 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:37,600 And I go, I hate to tell you, brother, I go to the clubs all the time, not once, not 850 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,560 once have I've attracted or brought that into my experience. 851 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,400 So maybe it could be you. 852 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,400 (laughing) 853 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,440 I mean, when you get to my age, I look back on my life, you know, and I just think the 854 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:58,360 things I did, and then I think, but I did that then, and now I'm here, and I know why 855 00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,360 I got here. 856 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,200 - I'm going to ask you a few questions. 857 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,840 I asked all of my guests, what is your definition of a good life? 858 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,640 - Being happy, contented, and being where you want to be. 859 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,519 Never feeling that I should be somewhere else. 860 00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:16,360 - What is your definition of God? 861 00:57:20,580 --> 00:57:24,200 - And what is the ultimate purpose of life? 862 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,360 - Satisfaction. 863 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,400 - And where can people find out more about you and your books and the work that you do 864 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:31,400 at my friend? 865 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:32,400 - Right, okay. 866 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,320 If you're interested in my books, you can, they're available on Amazon. 867 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:42,240 They're in all formats, including Audible, which I read myself, which my publisher was 868 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,120 have to have a certain kind of tonality, which is quite good. 869 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,680 So you can get my books, you can order them from libraries if you wish. 870 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,080 They're all across the States. 871 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,880 You can get them on Amazon. 872 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,640 You can go into a bookshop. 873 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,200 Some of them you'll actually get in bookshops as well. 874 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:09,000 My website is antonypeak.com, that's Anthony with an H and peak P-E-A-K-E. 875 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:19,320 post about six or seven times a day, whenever I have an idea and I've got to just get it 876 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,320 there. 877 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,320 - You're like a teenage girl. 878 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,320 I love it. 879 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,320 - Absolutely. 880 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,320 Absolutely. 881 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:25,320 That's what I am really. 882 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:30,039 I'm a teenage girl trapped inside a 68-year-old man's body, you know, it's 883 00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:34,960 And what else, yeah, I also have my own YouTube channel. 884 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,320 that are involved in my work as well, which will allow to get a picture of where I'm 885 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,240 with this. 886 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,720 So contact me, get in contact. 887 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:53,680 But you and I really need to have a chat anyway about lots of things. 888 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,800 But whenever I do that, I always find why the hell didn't we record this because there 889 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,960 was so many great ideas came out. 890 00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:03,520 So next time we need to do it, probably we need a longer time, maybe. 891 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,520 - Absolutely. 892 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,680 - And my apologies to everybody for my sniffling and spluttering. 893 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:13,000 I've caught something when I was down in the desert in Jordan last week. 894 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,200 I think it was the sand. 895 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,880 I think there was so much sand around, particularly when we were down in Wadi Rob... 896 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,560 doing the Lawrence of Arabia stuff that I've just got, you know, clogged up a bit. 897 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:24,880 So my apologies about that. 898 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,640 - But I appreciate you coming on the show and I appreciate the work that you're doing. 899 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,840 And I can't wait to have our next conversation, my friend. 900 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,480 So be well and thank you again. 901 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,480 - And you, Alex. 902 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:35,480 Thank you. 903 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,360 - Thanks for watching. 904 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,160 Click on one of the videos below to continue your journey and don't forget to subscribe.