1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,260 This is Kyle. 2 00:00:03,900 --> 00:00:05,140 Kyle, it's AJ. How are you? 3 00:00:05,580 --> 00:00:09,800 I'm well. You guys are a little far from the mic, it sounds like, but I'm well. 4 00:00:09,820 --> 00:00:10,460 I'm sorry about that. 5 00:00:12,420 --> 00:00:20,180 All right. So, obviously, the email is getting a lot of attention, as you can imagine. 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:20,500 Yep. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,900 As an FIA agent, right? 8 00:00:21,900 --> 00:00:28,600 And so, I just wanted to make sure and clarify kind of the pathway and all that stuff. 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:42,780 So, from my understanding, and you can tell me if I'm wrong, it looks like, you know, whoever sent this, you know, email, possibly, you know, the Weibelberger, you know, sent it to Shoemate. 10 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:50,600 Shoemate got in touch with Rob Green, who then got in touch with you, and then it sounds like you and Sam may have talked directly. 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,160 Is that what I'm, if I'm missing it, please let me know. 12 00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:56,040 Nope. That's all correct. That's exactly right. 13 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:03,040 Yep. And I've never seen it. He didn't send it with me. I was just a conduit to be able to connect to you guys. 14 00:01:04,100 --> 00:01:08,420 Great. And then it sounds like you reached out to Matt Nahas in Mobile? 15 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,100 Correct. 16 00:01:10,300 --> 00:01:16,480 Correct. All right. All right. I just wanted to make sure that was correct, and I hadn't mixed it up in my head. 17 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:24,180 There's obviously a million things going on, so I was like, let me just call Kyle and make sure that our interpretation was right, and that I didn't miss anything. 18 00:01:24,180 --> 00:01:36,180 No, that's exactly right, and basically the logic was, first of all, Rob Green asked me, and Rob, if he's trying to get something done, he's a really reputable guy and a really good person, so they're just looking to do the right thing, it sounded like. 19 00:01:36,180 --> 00:01:42,200 But as you can imagine, there's a lot of distrust in the Bureau nationwide right now. 20 00:01:42,540 --> 00:01:46,240 A lot of people, including people who are agents, look around and go, I don't know, I just don't know what to think. 21 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,040 So I just said, hey, can you get it to this direct so we don't lose this in transmission? 22 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:56,260 Because if it is a value and it cuts down some of the time that you guys are doing in your investigation to trying to understand root causes, 23 00:01:56,580 --> 00:02:05,400 then it'd be better to get it into the right hands rather than some, you know, going to West Virginia and talk intake and get some analysts who doesn't know what's going on. 24 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:21,340 Okay. And did you just tell Green to, like, give Shoemate your information, essentially, or did he give you Shoemates or, like, I just want to make sure the story when, like, EM, when we're briefing them, right, that we have all the facts. 25 00:02:21,340 --> 00:02:31,360 Sure. Yeah, I'll just, I'll state it very simply. I got a phone call from Rob Green. Rob said that his friend Sam had received information that he thought the FBI should have. 26 00:02:31,780 --> 00:02:42,080 He asked if I would help facilitate that. I said, go ahead and give Sam my phone number. He gave him the phone number. Sam texted me. I called Sam back two seconds later. 27 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:49,320 We had about a 10-minute chat about sort of the rough sketch of the details. I said, give me a few minutes. I think I've got a name for you. 28 00:02:49,320 --> 00:03:00,740 And then I called Aaron, and then I gave you guys, then I gave Sam Aaron's phone number, and I assume he contacted you for whatever route he did. 29 00:03:02,060 --> 00:03:10,500 Yeah, okay. So, yeah, because we, I remember Aaron and I calling you yesterday, and so I just, okay, I just wanted to make sure that I didn't miss that. 30 00:03:10,820 --> 00:03:11,900 So, perfect. 31 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:17,920 And you guys probably saw that he's going to be chatting about it with Sean Ryan today. Are you aware of that? 32 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:22,520 Yes. And that's S-H-A-W-N, right? 33 00:03:22,780 --> 00:03:33,040 S-H-A-W-N, yep. So, if you don't know anything about Sean, he's got a fairly big podcast, one of the larger ones in the country at this point. 34 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:41,780 Has a big military and law enforcement following, so you may get additional people that know things simply because of the exposure that goes on that program. 35 00:03:41,780 --> 00:03:52,320 And actually, I think it's a net positive. Sean's a former SEAL. He also was a CIA contractor, I think, with Ground Branch for a while, lived in Mexico. Real interesting dude. 36 00:03:52,320 --> 00:04:03,640 But his podcast is a, it is a LE slash mill focused, a lot of subject matter experts coming out of the special operations community and so on. 37 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:09,040 So, big Green Beret audience, big SEAL audience, folks in other sort of special ops. 38 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,060 And a lot of people listen to it because he speaks the same language. 39 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,520 And Sam obviously has a lot of contact with those communities as well. 40 00:04:16,740 --> 00:04:21,140 So, that's, I just saw that was notified out there on Twitter X a few minutes ago. 41 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,100 And so, that doesn't surprise me. I thought that was probably coming, but there you go. 42 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:39,480 I don't know enough about podcasts. So, is it, like, will it, it's essentially like an episode that will be recorded and then you guys can, you know, edit, like if you guys, you know, whatever, and then it'll be posted later? 43 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,940 Or is this like a live, you know, kind of thing? 44 00:04:43,100 --> 00:04:52,980 Yeah, so I, yeah, I've got, I've got nothing to do with Sean's podcast other than I know of him and we've spoken a couple times or, you know, chatted on, on messaging. 45 00:04:52,980 --> 00:05:04,960 His podcast is taped and then edited. His indication that he had from his social media posts just stated that they were going to tape what he called an emergency episode. 46 00:05:05,340 --> 00:05:07,700 I can play you the, I'll play you the reel if you want to hear it. 47 00:05:07,980 --> 00:05:08,520 You probably can. 48 00:05:08,660 --> 00:05:09,320 No, that's okay. We can. 49 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:15,220 Yeah, you can find it. It's, it's the posted piece on his, on his, you know, his social medias. It's on Instagram and everything else. 50 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:21,700 Anyway, they, they do recorded, they mix them together. He's got a multi-camera angle thing. He's got producers. He's got a whole team that puts stuff together. 51 00:05:21,700 --> 00:05:27,280 Um, how much they'll edit. I have no idea. They said they're going to release it later today. So you can imagine that's going to be the case. 52 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:37,660 Um, if you're looking for a timeline, but depending on the podcast, mine is generally done live. Um, some people do it live to tape, which means they just, whatever they say is taped and then it's put up later. 53 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:45,040 Sean's is actually produced a little bit more. So he's got more of a little bit, uh, artistic flair and, um, they'll, they'll tease out cuts and stuff like that. 54 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:52,180 So his specifically is a, um, a taped and produced, uh, sort of presentation, if you will. 55 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:56,520 Okay. Perfect. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it. 56 00:05:56,580 --> 00:05:57,520 Yep. Uh, good luck. 57 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,700 Thank you. Bye. 58 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:00,100 See ya. 59 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:00,180 Bye.