1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,740 And that is what I will say is another red flag for a healthy organization and a non-healthy organization. 2 00:00:05,980 --> 00:00:16,620 If the leader is not imposing boundaries or recognizing boundaries, then I would see that as a red flag at this point. 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,980 Like my teacher puts up, like, we don't go to my teacher's house. 4 00:00:20,860 --> 00:00:21,400 We don't go. 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,960 You don't show up at the volleyball court at 2 a.m. to meet some short, fat guy named Keith Ranieri. 6 00:00:27,140 --> 00:00:28,140 That's another red flag. 7 00:00:28,140 --> 00:00:31,520 If anybody asks you to go to a volleyball court at 2 a.m., just pass. 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,860 And they look like a troll. 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,600 I mean, I laughed with my friend Kelly, and I might have said this off camera. 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,840 So I'll say it on camera, and I apologize if this offends anyone. 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,700 But I was like, that man is so disgusting. 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,320 He had to create a cult in order to get laid. 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,000 I know. 14 00:00:46,140 --> 00:00:48,160 But how did volleyball fit into that, too? 15 00:00:48,260 --> 00:00:50,260 I mean, he's not only uncharismatic. 16 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:54,920 I mean, I don't want to speak, though, because I bet you in the cult they probably did think he was charismatic and stuff. 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,980 Just like a lot of people go, how could you follow Hubbard? 18 00:00:56,980 --> 00:01:04,720 But even volleyball, the weight, the headband, the whole thing about him, again, outsiders would go, I'd never fall for that. 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,840 But he also was a master hypnotist, and he stole a ton from Scientology. 20 00:01:10,060 --> 00:01:12,340 He uses a lot of—did you ever see that scene? 21 00:01:12,340 --> 00:01:17,140 There's a clip of it on YouTube, and it was either in Seduced or the other documentary, The Vow. 22 00:01:17,780 --> 00:01:28,160 But there's a scene where Allison Mack comes in to the volleyball court, and just the way he walks over, kind of breaks her down, gives her a kiss, and she's almost crying. 23 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,380 She begs for an EM. 24 00:01:29,380 --> 00:01:39,300 And you could just watch her go under and be manipulated, where Keith almost does nothing but look in her eyes like a snake, and you could just watch her go under in about 10 minutes. 25 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,540 You know what scene I'm talking about? 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,400 It's quite amazing. 27 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:48,820 I remember, because Allison Mack is just a little bit older than me, so I remember watching Smallville as a teenager. 28 00:01:49,380 --> 00:01:51,660 And so she was the recognizable one to me. 29 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,700 And I remember thinking, like, oh my God, she was on a show, you know, when I was a teenager, and she's the powerful one. 30 00:01:57,860 --> 00:02:03,520 Because she has—and the way that he was able to almost crush her in that situation. 31 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:09,520 Did she marry a woman from Canada just to get her a green card, but she's straight? 32 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,960 Like, that would offend me. 33 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,520 Like, if somebody asked me to marry a woman— 34 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:19,220 He did a lot of things that he asked him to do, because I would say that she's probably an empathic person with a trauma background, just guessing. 35 00:02:19,420 --> 00:02:22,480 He, like a shark, could sniff out that she's a prime target. 36 00:02:22,780 --> 00:02:30,620 And the more empathy and the more you care, I think the longer you can stay in the trap, because you're going to think it's your fault, and you can see him play her. 37 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,320 So, you know, she did some of the most evil things to the other adherents. 38 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:43,440 But then the subject of brainwashing comes up where, you know, maybe she was a really good person that just got super manipulated because of her good qualities. 39 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:49,900 And Keith sniffed that out and used her to do evil things under the guise of helping. 40 00:02:50,380 --> 00:03:02,080 It's just—she's such a case study because, you know, how could someone so uncharismatic and ugly, where you have Allison Mack, she's famous, she has everything going for her, what would she need from him? 41 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:07,200 You know, we know what he would need from her, and yet that—you can see that the snake catch the predator. 42 00:03:07,580 --> 00:03:07,840 Yeah. 43 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,560 Is that important to you? 44 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:17,120 Yes. 45 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:17,520 Why? 46 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:21,220 Why is that important to me? 47 00:03:21,220 --> 00:03:33,720 Because it's—because it's—because I think it's—because so much of who I am is wrapped up in art. 48 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,740 Give me an example. 49 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:36,620 If it's a knife. 50 00:03:36,860 --> 00:03:48,880 When I go to see a film or a piece of artwork or something happens to me that is so exciting and wonderful, blissful, joyful. 51 00:03:48,880 --> 00:04:00,560 So, you know, you can practice generating an extreme feeling of joy over anything in our methods that we have, especially in 2C. 52 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,240 That film is 2C. 53 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,740 It's one of our intentsives. 54 00:04:04,660 --> 00:04:05,740 What's it called now? 55 00:04:07,140 --> 00:04:07,960 Civilization, is it? 56 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,080 Civilization. 57 00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:13,360 I mean, what if artistic endeavors were really bogus? 58 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,480 What if—what if art was just an excuse for those who couldn't do it? 59 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,200 I mean, it is sometimes. 60 00:04:20,940 --> 00:04:24,460 The most excitement that you've ever felt is yours to have all the time. 61 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:25,200 Mm-hmm. 62 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:26,240 Independent of art. 63 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:26,700 Mm-hmm. 64 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,960 The bad news is you sort of have to divorce yourself when you've got that attention from the art. 65 00:04:31,100 --> 00:04:31,240 Mm-hmm. 66 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:39,160 If you feel that art is necessary for that, that's almost a self-condemnation. 67 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:46,420 Why is this emotion? 68 00:04:51,940 --> 00:04:52,340 Hi. 69 00:04:53,300 --> 00:04:53,900 It's okay. 70 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:54,920 She comes in close. 71 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,820 I know, right? 72 00:04:55,820 --> 00:04:58,100 Um, I should be used to this. 73 00:04:58,180 --> 00:04:58,600 It's what I do. 74 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,680 Um, because it's pointing at something I've never thought about. 75 00:05:06,780 --> 00:05:10,720 And a part of me is kind of freaked out about accepting this. 76 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,620 I'm used to that self-condemnation. 77 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:16,300 I'm comfortable with that. 78 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:16,860 Mm-hmm. 79 00:05:21,980 --> 00:05:30,940 If I let go of that belief that it's not the art that's giving me this feeling, it's me that's giving me this feeling, 80 00:05:30,940 --> 00:05:39,020 then I have to trust that I will be capable of giving myself that feeling. 81 00:05:39,340 --> 00:05:39,620 Mm-hmm. 82 00:05:39,620 --> 00:05:42,040 And I don't necessarily trust that right now. 83 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:42,560 Mm-hmm. 84 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,640 And so that's scary. 85 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:45,380 Mm-hmm. 86 00:05:45,380 --> 00:05:46,720 Because I want that feeling. 87 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,720 Mm-hmm. 88 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,220 Will you give me an email? 89 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Normally. 90 00:05:53,580 --> 00:05:54,840 Not right now, but at some point. 91 00:05:56,900 --> 00:06:00,340 I'll speak, but I normally don't give people EMs of life. 92 00:06:00,940 --> 00:06:02,160 We'll see what happens. 93 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,720 I don't know the protocol, because I'm just talking to my chair. 94 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:07,380 Oh, my. 95 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:09,020 So to speak. 96 00:06:09,660 --> 00:06:10,500 I turned a little red. 97 00:06:10,660 --> 00:06:10,900 All right. 98 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:16,540 But I mean, to some degree, we did a little bit hard. 99 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:17,940 Yeah, I felt that. 100 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,880 Thank you. 101 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:23,500 Thank you. 102 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,720 That was really wonderful. 103 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:25,260 Do I hug? 104 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:26,200 I hug and I kiss. 105 00:06:26,460 --> 00:06:27,080 Oh, come on. 106 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:29,540 Nice. 107 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:30,920 Good voice. 108 00:06:30,940 --> 00:06:31,540 Thank you. 109 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,120 Me, too. 110 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:38,240 Allison was just so excited for me to meet Keith. 111 00:06:38,300 --> 00:06:38,680 Thank you. 112 00:06:38,740 --> 00:06:38,960 Thank you. 113 00:06:48,460 --> 00:06:50,540 Thank you. 114 00:06:50,540 --> 00:06:51,560 Thank you. 115 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:51,900 Thank you. 116 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:52,100 Thank you. 117 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:53,680 Thank you. 118 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,940 Thank you. 119 00:06:55,940 --> 00:06:56,580 Thank you. 120 00:06:56,580 --> 00:06:56,620 Thank you. 121 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:57,680 Thank you. 122 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,640 Thank you. 123 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:00,540 Thank you.