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Welcome to Leto Files. I have an exciting show today. This is Jesse Beltran. He's a certified

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master hypnotist and the president of MindNexus. He's actually dedicated his career to uncovering

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the truth behind covert technologies, mind control, and the increasing reports of Havana

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syndrome. So Jesse's expertise and investigations into the intersection of UAP, covert technologies,

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and human consciousness offer a unique perspective that really excites me. I'm very interested in

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what you have to say, and it sounds like you recently had an experience of your own that

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changed your mind. So welcome, Jesse. Yes, yes, I did. Thank you, Chris. It's a pleasure being on

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your show, and we always thank you for this platform because the message that we disseminate

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is very important, really, for the human species. I'll just dive into it. My name is Jesse Beltran.

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I'm a retired firefighter-pyramidic from the city of Sacramento and here in the United States

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in California. I've been blessed to have many positions throughout my career, one of them being

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the president of an organization called the International Center Against the Abuse of Covert

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Technologies. I'm currently the president of Cosmic Clarity Connections, and MindNexus Live

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is our brand. How I got into this topic we're going to discuss today, which is the Havana syndrome

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or anomalous health incidences, is I met a gentleman by the name of Dr. John Hall, who

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is a board-certified physician out of Texas. And I met him at a conference one time, and we were

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having a discussion about how he was seeing individuals who were coming to him and complaining

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about an unusual phenomenon. And this was probably when I met him was in 2009, 2010, right around that

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era. And he said they would come to him and they would express hearing some strange sound, almost

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like a signal being transmitted. And it would be followed by symptoms that would include nausea,

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vomiting, vertigo, short-term, long-term memory loss, and electrical shocks to the extremities.

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And some of these individuals would complain about hearing like a radio station being transmitted to

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them. So they were actually hearing language. And he was doing, on a very limited basis, what is called

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a RF scan, which is a little device that checks for RF emissions within the ambient environment.

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And I said, well, why isn't anything being done about this? Why, you know, why aren't they getting

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help? And he says, because if they went to their general practitioners and complained about these

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symptoms, they would automatically be labeled or diagnosed with some type of mental health disorder.

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And they would be placed on medication and it would be, it would further re-victimize these

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individuals. So being a firefighter paramedic, and I've been involved in a lot of studies out in the

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field, I said, well, why don't we do something that will allow us to make these subjective complaints

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and turn them in something tangible that we can measure? So that's how the International Center Against

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the Abuse of Covert Technologies was formed. And we held a meeting and just did a broadcast for everyone.

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If you have these symptoms, please come to our meeting. I expected maybe a dozen or so, a handful

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of people, but a hundred people showed up standing room only. And, um, as I went through the room, um,

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everyone had the exact same complaint and very, very little deviation. Now it's not to say they

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weren't, there weren't any individuals that had a mental issue going on, but 98% of the individuals

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that were coming to these meetings were very consistent. And so I decided, okay, now I can go

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ahead and move forward and let's do what we would do call as a preliminary RF scan out in the field.

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So I held a meeting in Davis, California. And at that meeting, 300 people showed up to get scanned.

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And what was interesting about the data, it started to form a story, a picture. And what it was showing is

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that the ones who were most effective, high highest in numbers were Caucasian females, uh, age 40,

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recently whittled, singled or divorced with, uh, then it fell to Caucasian males, African-American females,

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African-American males, Asian females, Asian males, and it dwindled down in ethnicity from there.

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We did continue the testing through the Midwest and we got the exact same results. And so in my mind,

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I'm going, wow, this is interesting. Is this some type of phenomenon happening to Caucasians primarily

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for some reason? And that stayed consistent until we got to Chicago. When we went to Chicago,

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it flipped a little bit where the, the, the number one, um, complainants were African-Americans,

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then Caucasians, Asians, and then dwindled down from there. And that stayed consistent all the way to

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the east coast of the United States with one anomaly. The anomaly was in Virginia. I was invited

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to see a group of folks that were all military subcontractors and there was about a hundred or so there.

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And they all had these same complaints. Okay. Now I'm going to define a little bit to the audience what,

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uh, Havana syndrome is in 2016. Um, the diplomats in Havana, Cuba, when our relations opened up a little,

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um, started to complain of an unusual phenomenon, an acute onset of this strange sound, um, uh, some type

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of signal being transmitted to them, followed by nausea, headaches, vertigo, short-term, long-term memory

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loss, um, unusual shocks to the extremities, very consistent in what we were covering in 2009, 2010.

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Now in March, March 8th of this year, the Department of Homeland Security held a hearing

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about the Havana syndrome or anomalous health incidences. And the purpose of this meeting was

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mainly, um, to help get help for federal employees who were suffering from this. Now, initially the

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United States didn't give this credence. They tried to push this off as a mental health disorder,

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some type of psychosis or mass hysteria event. At one point they were even blaming it on crickets,

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um, the sound that they were hearing. Um, but again, these diplomats were complaining,

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the exact same symptoms that we were covering back in 2009 in the general population.

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What was interesting about this is the United States didn't jump on board until the diplomats

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in Canada were also complaining of that, these exact same symptoms. Now, giving testimony at this

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hearing was a gentleman by the name of Lieutenant, retired Lieutenant Colonel,

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uh, Greg Egren and Greg Egren gave testimony of that. This in fact is a real phenomenon and it is

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happening to our federal employees here in the homeland and abroad, and it's happening to the

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best of our best. That means our top diplomats, the brightest minds, our top CIA agents, our top FBI

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agents. And it is currently happening to certain politicians here in Washington, DC. Um, Colonel

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Egren, uh, expressed that they believe that this is some type of directed energy weapons, some focused

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beam weapon. The EMPs is what they call it. Um, and they say it's only happening. They can only testify

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that it's happening to federal employees because they were asked the question, is this happening to

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civilians? And there was one of the witnesses there who was an attorney who said, if you look at his

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Twitter feed, um, you know, there are a lot of civilians who are complaining about this, but they

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only address federal employees. Uh, we can testify that this most definitely has been happening for

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some time in the homeland and it's been happening to civilians in, in masses. And, and, and so, uh, this

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is why the timing is right. I would not be coming forward had that, uh, hearing had not happened. We would

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have continued to do what we were doing in the background and gathering evidence. Okay. So I have

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been practicing hypnosis since early 2000. I became a certified master hypnotist with my diploma in

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hypnotherapy. Um, for a specific reason, I was noticing that those who were most affected by this

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phenomenon, um, happened to be highly suggestible. Now there are a couple of cases here. I'm going to

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talk about one of them is a gentleman by the name of Aaron Alexis. He was a U S soldier and he had

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contacted me, uh, shortly before he did, uh, something horrible. He was complaining about these exact same

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symptoms. And I expressed to him that this is not a quick fix. This is going to be a long-term journey.

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Um, because we have to start on the, the path of gathering evidence for him. And, um, there's

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another case by the name of Myron May. Myron May was an attorney out of Florida, uh, who also called

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me and was complaining about these exact same symptoms. Now, Aaron Alexis ended up killing 16

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people at the Navy yard over on the East coast. Myron May ended up killing three people in the research

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department at the university there. Now, what happens initially when, when someone experiences this,

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you experience the fight or flight response. These two individuals, their makeup was they were fighters.

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So this is why they did what they did. Um, which is not generally what most people do. Most people were

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the flight response. They're trying to figure out, oh my gosh, what is happening to me? This is so bizarre.

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They, they just can't put a finger on it because it is so highly unusual. Now, um, the reason I

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addressed that I noticed that the people most affected had high suggestibility. And what I did

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is I started testing for suggestibility at that anomalous meeting where we had military subcontractors.

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And basically what I did is I asked everyone in there to raise their hands if they thought they

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were highly suggestible and no one did, which I didn't, I wasn't surprised, uh, just because the,

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the makeup of the individuals. And then if I, I asked if you thought you were not suggestible about

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98% of them raised their hands. So what I did is I picked the most intimidating person. He was a

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very fit, good looking African-American male, six, six, about 240, 50 pounds. And I had him stand in the

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middle of the room with me and we were just having a conversation just like you and I. And before you

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know it, um, uh, his hands were stuck together. He didn't know why everyone in the room, their jaws

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dropped. And, um, basically what I did is I put him to sleep just by having a conversation, knowing how

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to utilize language in a way to, to get, uh, to someone subconscious who is highly suggestible.

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Now, the purpose of this was, is why are we doing the RF scanning? And when we were doing the RF

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scanning is that, um, we had a suspicion if there is a signal that is somehow being transmitted,

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that we should be able to detect something. Okay. And Colonel Egren said, this is a directed energy

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weapon. Um, and does that technology exist? Most definitely. There was a classified case in the

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state of Florida where the Russians were doing this and, um, they actually caught one of the individuals

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and they caught, found a device in there that led them to believe that this was a directed energy weapon.

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Now, um, we had a theory, we said, why is there so many people being afflicted by this? And what makes

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them unique in, and when I say unique, unique in the, in, in the matter that they can hear the signal,

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they're receiving the signal because they can be in a crowd of folks and no one else is hearing it,

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only that specific individual. Now we use a little bit of common sense here. The logistics in

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pointing a directed energy weapon at so many of these individuals is a logistical nightmare,

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number one, and it's probably not financially sound. So we said, then there must be a blanket

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signal that's being dispersed throughout our environment. Then. And unfortunately there's

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something internal with these individuals that allows them to receive the signal. Okay. Colonel

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Egren testified that this phenomenon is happening on every continent currently on the globe with the

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exception of Antarctica. Now I'm going to, uh, share, uh, what we're finding, uh, with the audience.

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I'm about to, um, show you one of my earliest cases. And this is, uh, a woman who had been

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suffering, uh, from this for many, many years. And, uh, in 20, uh, 16, 20, 2019, I believe, um,

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we had her have a surgery and this is what we're finding. I'm going to go ahead and show my screen here.

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So this young lady, uh, came up positive in our preliminary RF scans. And what you'll notice here

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that this is the pathology report. And this was done, uh, 2018, I'm sorry. And this is, uh,

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uh, they pulled out three specimens out of her. Who is they, when you say they, uh, the surgeon,

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the surgeon, we, um, basically when, um, um, I'm keeping redacting the physician's name,

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her facility, because we want them to continue to assist us. We have a couple of court cases that

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are making their way through and we don't want them bombarded, um, uh, by individuals who are

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basically skipping a protocol that we have that basically gives us a grand slam, uh, when we're

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in court. And what you'll see here is this has all been under, uh, high magnification

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and they're pulling out what are called biosensors.

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And this is what they look like to, uh, at, at, in 2018, they're even smaller today. And we'll,

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we'll go into that. So this is a nano wire. This is actually, uh, our bodies do not reject these

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biosensors. So you'll get, um, our tissues will overgrow on them. They come in different shapes

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and different types. Um, they almost look like our, our, our, our natural tissues. Um, but they're

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not, um, because they're so small today and technology has advanced to such a point that, um,

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they can make them this small. So I'm going to show the audience where we were in 2019.

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So this is a Bob Boyce case. Bob Boyce was a inventor of a high-efficiency, efficiency engine.

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And what we're looking at here, this is actually a cancerous tumor. At the end of these tweezers

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is an RFID chip. Now, Bob, when I spoke to him on the phone, he had said, you know, Jesse,

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I had just to succumb that I was going to die from this cancer. Bob at the time had no idea why

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he had developed this cancer. Now, until one day he was in what's called a Faraday cage and a Faraday

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cage is a grounded environment where signals don't come in and signals don't go out within a certain

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spectrum. And he was using one, an RF detector, just like we use in our preliminary scans.

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And the one accidentally went by his shoulder and then it pinged. And so he thought that was

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odd when he got an X-ray and lo and behold, they found this microchip in the center of one

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of these tumors that were in Bob. Now he had the surgery. I went to pathology and I asked Bob,

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Bob and go, Bob, well, what happened to the chip? And he goes, it disappeared after pathology.

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So he was nonetheless, that was not a highlight because it would have been nice to have that

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initially. And, but he was happy that his cancer went into remission, but it came back very aggressively.

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So he went back into the Faraday cage, rescanned his person and they found another one. And this time,

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they were a little smarter, uh, when they did this, they had a chain of custody. Uh, and when it was

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removed, they made sure that it didn't leave their site. And in other words, they made sure that they

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were able to obtain the serial numbers and they were able to trace this microchip back to an NSA database.

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No way. Yes. So as they, as they continue to try and sue, the NSA came back and said, this is a

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national security issue and it's been stonewalled there. So he hasn't been able to make much progress

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on that. The next case I'm going to share with the audience is the, um, Dave Larson case. Dave Larson

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was a politician out of Southern California and he inadvertently started having very similar symptoms

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that we were discussing. Okay. So this is a Dave Larson case. Now, Dave Larson, um, was experiencing

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very similar, all the symptoms of you've been describing throughout this interview.

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Now notice this is, sorry, sorry. What are the, what are actually the symptoms? Just the,

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the audio noise? Is there anything else negative? Yeah. Yeah. You'll, you'll get unusual body twitches,

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spasms, electrical shocks, um, but just all kinds of ailments. And, and, and you think about this,

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were your human beings that work on, uh, off of electrons, you know, all our biochemistry is,

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is very electrical. And so when you start putting these biosensors, it wouldn't be unusual to all

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of a sudden have your arm go up. Um, if it, if it gets a signal or perhaps unusual twitches. Um, so this,

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these are the kinds of symptoms that they, they were experienced. So this here is a biosensor. Notice

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this, this, this, this was in, uh, uh, late two thousands meet, uh, early nineties, late nineties,

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early two thousands. Look how small these are. That's the, the letter U on a penny. So about the

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size of two letters on a penny, they come in various shapes. This is another type of biosensor

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that was pulled out of him. And they, he, they pulled out over 10 of these in him. He sued

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and he, his case was thrown out. And the reason his case was thrown out is because he had inadvertently,

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uh, participated in a experiment. The problem with this experiment is they did not give him full

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disclosure because if he had known that they were going to do this to him, I can guarantee you,

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he would have never participated in this. Okay. Now, where are we today? The, the types of implants that,

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um, are out there now. And the only reason I know this is because when I was in Virginia,

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um, I met with a couple of folks that had worked for the Pentagon. And, um, the reason we were meeting

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with these folks is because they were high school friends with my wife and, um, we wanted to know why

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we were there and I had already suspected that he was aware of it, but he did say, um, oh, what do

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they look like? We can tell you exactly when, um, these were being used depending on the style of the

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implant. He goes, but today, if you are implanted your SOL, you're not going to find these through

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traditional, um, medicine, uh, because of their size. Um, so an x-ray or an MRI scan are not going to

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find these biosensors. Just think about this back in the, the 2000, the Dave Larson case,

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how small they were then now they're nano size. And just so you can get a perspective of what,

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what does that look like in my mind's eye? A nano, uh, a nano is, you know, what a millimeter is.

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It's 1 millionth of a millimeter. That's how small these things are now. So this is what we're,

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we're dealing with. So it was our position is that what is making these individuals special and how,

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unfortunately, and how they're receiving the signal is they have these implants in them.

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And that's where we are today. Now people say, wow, it sounds pretty sci-fi. Um, so we have

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some documentation that was not meant to get out and I am going to read this to the audience.

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Okay. So this is a court case that was filed in 2019. This is a Don DeVore case. This was filed in

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California, uh, down in Los Angeles County. And she is a nurse for the department of corrections.

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She, um, became a whistleblower and they put her in this program. And during her lawsuit,

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she happened to come across some evidence and this was an internal document. Um,

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this is exhibit two that was submitted in this lawsuit and it's, I'm going to read it to the

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audience and, and this is why it's, but it's very important that I read it. It's IntelliConnection,

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a security division of IBM says confidential limited distribution, only level nine communications.

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So this was only supposed to be, uh, at the warden level and maybe a few people beneath him.

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It says 2020 neuro chip implant, the control of crime will be a paramount concern in the 21st century.

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We must be ready with our security products when the demand for them becomes popular.

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Our research and development division has been in contact with the federal bureau of prisons,

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the California department of corrections, the Texas department of public safety and the

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Massachusetts department of corrections to run limited trials of the 2020 neuro chip implant.

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We have established representatives of our interest in both management and institutional

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levels within these departments. So they're getting their own people hired in these organizations.

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Uh, federal regulations do not yet permit testing of implants on prisoners,

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but we have entered into contractual agreements with privatized healthcare professionals and specified

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correctional personnel to do limited testing of our products. We have also had major success in

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privately owned sanitariums with implant technology. We need, however, to expand our testing to research

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how effective the 2020 neuro chip implant performs in those identified as the most aggressive in our

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society. Limited testing has produced a number of results. In California, several prisoners were

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identified as members of the security threat group. They were brought to the health services, uh, unit.

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We are working on a device which will reduce that time by as much as 60%. The results of implants on a

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three prisoners yielded the following results. Implants serve as a surveillance monitoring device

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into the threat group. Later in, in this document, you'll see that there is no such thing as privacy.

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Once these are in you, everything you hear, see is being recorded. Implants disabled two subjects during

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an assault on a correctional staff. All they had to do is send a frequency to it and it incapacitated them.

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Uh, universal side effects and all eight test subjects revealed that when the implant was set

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at 116 megahertz, all subjects became lethargic and slept on an average of 18 to 22 hours per day.

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All subjects refused recreation. Obviously, if they're lethargic, they're not going to be doing

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these type of activities. Seven of the eight, uh, subjects did not exercise at all. Each subject was

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monitored for aggressive activity and during the test period and the findings,

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are conclusive that out of the eight test subjects exhibited no aggression even when they were

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provoked. Each subject experienced only minor bleeding from the nose and ears 48 hours after

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the implant due to initial adjustment. Each subject had no knowledge of the implant for the test period

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and each implant was retrieved under the guise of medical treatment, so they were doing this covertly.

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It should be noted that the test period was for less than two months. However, during the period,

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substantial data was gathered by our research and development team, which suggests that the implants

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exceeded expected results. One of the major concerns of the security and research and development team

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was that the test subject would discover the chemical imbalance during the initial adjustment period and the

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test would have to be scrubbed. However, due to the advanced technological developments in the sedatives

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administered, the 48-hour adjustment period can be contributed to prescription medication given to

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the test subjects after the implant procedure. So they're, they're deceiving them. So instead of

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them having these symptoms because a foreign body has been put into persons, they're blaming it on the drugs.

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One of the concerns raised by the R&D was the cause of the bleeding and how to, how to eliminate that

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problem. Unexplained bleeding might cause the subject to inquire further about his routine visit to the

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infirmary or other health care facilities. The security windfall from the brief test period was enormous.

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Security officials now know several strategies employed by the threat group that facilitate the

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transmission of illegal drugs and weapons into their correctional facilities. One intelligence officer

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remarked that while they cannot use the information they have in a court of law, they now know who to watch

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and what outside connections they have. The prison at Soledad is now considering transferring three

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subjects to Vacaville where we have ongoing implant research. Now Vacaville is a

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mental health prison for those of you who are not aware of that and that's located in Vacaville,

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California. It says, our technicians have promised that they can do three 2020 neurochip implants in

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less than an hour. Soledad officials hope to collect information from the trio to bring a 14-month

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investigation into drug trafficking by correctional officers to a close. Essentially, the implants may

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the unsuspecting prisoner, a walking, talking recorder of every event he comes into contact with. There

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are only five intelligence officers and the commissioner of corrections who actually know the full scope of

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the implant testing. In Massachusetts, the Department of Corrections has already entered into high-level

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discussions about releasing certain offenders into the community, so let them go early with the 2020

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neurochip implants. Our people are not altogether against the idea. However, attorneys for IntelliConnection

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have advised against implant technology outside strict control settings. Under the present governmental

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structure, our liability would be enormous. While we have a strong lobby in Congress and various state

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legislatures favoring our product, we must proceed with the utmost caution on uncontrolled use of the

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2020 neurochip. If the chip were discovered in use, not authorized by law, and a procedure traced to us,

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we would not endure for long the resulting publicity and liability payments.

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I can continue, but that says it all in a nutshell about what we're dealing with. The problem is,

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this is being distributed into everyday society now. This is why we're addressing this. We're in a campaign

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to educate everyone about Havana syndrome or this AHI phenomenon. Why is this important?

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Now we're in the nanotech era. You can put literally thousands of these in the tip of a needle

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because people ask how, how are they getting in individuals? And what's unique is that in our

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preliminary RF scan, you can take those complaining of the AHI phenomenon, superimpose their scans over

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each other. They're all exactly the same. You can take those from the military. Those are slightly different,

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but you can superimpose them over each other and they're all exactly the same.

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And I always wondered in our early infancy, why those who were incarcerated were coming up positive

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in certain locations and all the same, but different than the others. This was the smoking gun. Now,

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I had had high level officials in the Department of Corrections. I had meetings with them and I'd asked

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because Ronald Reagan, when he was governor, wanted to implant anyone who was ever incarcerated.

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But there was a lot of pushback from it. And I had got wind that they were doing white papers at

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privatized institutions. And so I would ask about it and they would say, yeah, it's being done.

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And they would say, yeah, highly intelligent prisoners would start saying that they're starting to hear

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voices, people talking to them. And they didn't know why, but then they later found out it was this

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program that they were being exposed to. And they, they would always tell me they would deny it if they

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ever were questioned about having this conversation with me. But now we have the smoking gun. And when you

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know exactly why they were experiencing what they were experiencing. And the thing is, the United

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States Air Force has been working on this phenomenon for quite some time. There's a document that I'm

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about to share. It was declassified in November of 1994. And it's called the New World Vistas report. And this is a

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222 page declassified document. This was given to me by a colleague who I trust very much. This was in 1995.

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He obtained this. And just so you can see which report this is.

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And we're going to go to page 89 of this report. I apologize for having to scroll through this.

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Let's see if I get down there faster. And what this report is about to talk about

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is biological processes. Now, remember this was released over 30 years ago.

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And this was the United States Air Force's brightest minds brought together to come up with a plan

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on how to keep the United States Air Force a superpower 50 years into the future.

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And here I am. Implant to everyone.

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Well, you, you cut draw your conclusion after what I'm about to share with you.

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This is page 89, biological processes. And I've highlighted the important areas. And it goes,

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it appears likely that there are a number of physical agents that might actively, but largely

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benignly interact or interfere with biological processes in an adversary.

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And prior to the mid 21st century, there will be a virtual explosion of knowledge in the field of

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neuroscience. We will have achieved a clear understanding of how a human brain works,

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how it really controls the various functions of the body and how it can be manipulated both

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positively and negatively. One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources.

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The output of which can be pulsed shape and focus that can couple with the human body in a

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fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular movements. Remember the prisoners control

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emotions and thus actions produce sleep, transmit suggestions, interfere with both short term and long term

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memory, produce an experience set, and delete an experience set. This will open the door for the

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development of some novel capabilities that can be used in armed conflict, in terrorist hostage

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situations and in training. New weapons that offer the opportunity of control of an adversary without

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resorting to a lethal solution or collateral casualty can be developed around this concept. This would offer

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significant improvements in the capabilities of our special operation forces. Initial experimentation

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should be focused on the interaction of electromagnetic energy and the neuromuscular junctions involved in

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voluntary muscle control. It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body,

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raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction. When a high power microwave pulse in

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the gigahertz range strikes the human body, a very small temperature perturbation occurs. This is associated

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with the sudden expansion of the slightly heated tissues. This expansion is fast enough to produce an acoustic

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wave. If a pulse stream is used, it should be possible to create an internal acoustic build in the 5 to 15

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kilohertz range, which is audible. Thus, it may be possible to talk to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be

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most disturbing to them. In comparison to the discussion in the paragraphs above, the concept of imprinting

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experience set is highly speculative, but nonetheless highly exciting. Modern electromagnetic

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scattering theory raises the prospect that the ultra short pulse scattering through the human brain can

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result in reflective signals that can be used to construct a reliable estimate of degree of central

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nervous system arousal. The concept behind this remote EEG is to scatter off action potentials or

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ensembles of action potentials in major central nervous system tracks. Assuming we will understand how our

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skills are imprinted and are recalled, it might be possible to take this concept one step further and

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duplicate an experience set in another individual.

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this is where we're at today. We're in the midst of it. If we remember that Colonel Egren said

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that this is happening here on the homeland in every continent on our globe with the exception of Antarctica.

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Um, they're taking out the best of our best. So that means once this happens to one of our elite

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personnel, you're completely taken out of commission. Um, this technology has been, um, been worked on for

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some time. So who has it? We know that Russia has, it was probably ahead of us in this technology.

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We know the United States has it. We know China. How do you know? Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

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So, so Russia, um, there's a gentleman by the name of Igor Smirnoff. Um, he, uh,

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was the original creator of being able to transmit sound into someone's head, bypassing their conscious

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faculties into the subconscious. Um, and he said there was no defense of it. When he passed away,

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the United States, uh, uh, purchased it from his wife through a company called SRS. And they paid

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almost $1 billion, just short of shy $1 billion for the technology. Um, the UK has this. Um, I was

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fortunate when I was, uh, president of, uh, ISAAC for short, the international center against the abuse of

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covert technologies, uh, to interview a gentleman by the name of, uh, Barry Trower. He was, uh, an agent

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for the UK. He was a microwave, uh, weapons specialist. And in that interview, which is posted, um,

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at our YouTube channel, um, you can see that interview that was done, uh, almost,

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almost two decades ago. She, in that he talks about the UK having this ability and transmitting voices

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into people's head and getting them to do things that they wouldn't normally do, um, was very easy

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to do. In fact, in that interview, you will hear him say that the scientists thought it was a success

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when they got someone to commit suicide. And this is what generally happens. Colonel Eggren testified that

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this is a slow kill. This technology is made to make someone look like they're crazy and they're

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doing this to the best of our best. Um, so, um, this is why we know at least the, the superpowers,

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um, are, do have this capability. The Chinese have been working on this technology. They're,

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they're talking about neural weapons. Uh, you can do their research and they're very,

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very, very big on this tech. So where are we at today? Why is this happening?

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I believe that back in 2000, 2009, 2010, we were in an experimental phase.

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Now the United States is known for experimenting on its citizens. We can talk about this, the Stiggy

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experiments where we were inflicting, um, syphilis to African-American males and just letting it go rampant

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just to see what would happen. Um, uh, we've done LSD experiments to Johns in the San Francisco region.

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Um, on and on, you can look throughout history. We're notorious for this. And in fact, uh, Bill

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Clinton, when he was president actually apologized, uh, to the Stiggy experiment sufferers. And a lot of

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people lost their lives, but no, um, compensation was ever given in any way, shape or form. It was

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just, we're sorry. There is a Canadian psychiatrist by the name of Ewan Cameron, who in the early days

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was funded by the United States government to perform experiments, to see whether or not you can

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erase, uh, the memories in a human brain and re-imprint it, uh, with false memories. And he

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would do techniques like electric shock therapy. Um, he would induce them with drugs to give them

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long-term sleep. He would helmet over their heads. And then he would play a tape recorder with themes

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that would recycle over and over again. And he really messed people up. In fact, that lawsuit

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is still going on today. I was on a recent show where one of the litigants, uh, was suing for her

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father. Um, this was done to him right now. The Canadian government is trying to say, um, that the

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statute of limitations have, have, um, exceeded. And so therefore they're trying to throw the lawsuit

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out. Um, that was just a couple of weeks ago, but this is where we're at. And

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this is why, uh, it's important that you, everyone understands that this can happen to

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any one of us. This can happen to your children. This can happen to your mother, your father,

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your grandfather, your friends, everyone, no one is excluded from this happening. And now with the

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advent of nanotech, um, this is a serious issue. Um, I was on an interview with one of probably one of

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the brightest people I've, I've met in a long time. And it was, it's called the celestial report.

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If you Google it, it's out there. Now she shared something with me. She said in the early 2000s,

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under the rule of law, they redefined what human is. And I was wondering why,

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because as I shared all my evidence with her and what we have our work, um, she shared something

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with me, um, with this nanotechnology. And today, and I've also pulled the research papers

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out that are out there. It is now self-replicating and self-assembling, and it can attach to the human

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DNA. In the research papers, it's discloses that you can change a species within six generations.

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Um, I found that fascinating. And she said that that is the ultimate agenda. Now, why, well, what does

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that mean? Um, if we are no longer defined as human, then you potentially have a scenario where

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these superpowers have a patent over you, or these corporations have a patent over you. Um,

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what we are finding is each and every one of these implants can all be traced back to a biotech

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company, a corporation out there. And there's a video out there by the name of William, uh, Pollack,

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uh, Dr. Greer, um, which is a very popular person right now, uh, in the UFO community.

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She did a personal interview, uh, with Pollack and Pollack talked about working with this technology

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in Silicon Valley. And he said they were making these implants, um, in the billions.

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And somehow they disappeared and no one knows where they went, but that's an interesting

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interview to watch because it talks about in its early infancy, this has been a plan all along.

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Now, what does this mean? Well, we know that we're, we're probably in an arms race right now.

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That's why we're seeing such a proliferation of this all over the globe with the exception of

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Antarctica. And I'm curious about why not Antarctica. Um, there were no man who, uh,

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is a, he, he, he claims he's a firefighter work who works for Raytheon in the Antarctica.

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And he talks about these type of array systems that are out there. They produce, um,

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um, uh, faster than light communication. He claims that, um, when it was turned on, it was the reason

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why, uh, the earthquakes in New Zealand happened. He said that was accidental friendly fire episode.

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And he also says that this is where the voice of God weapon transmission is being transmitted from.

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Um, um, this phenomenon where they hear these auditory sounds are several names for it.

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They call it the microwave auditory effect. They call it, um, the V2K effect, the voice of God weapon.

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Now, recently a gentleman who actually created this technology, his name was Dr. Robert Duncan.

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He was the author of a book on how to treat, uh, tame a demon and, uh, project soul catchers.

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He did not know what they were going to use this for. Ultimately. He thought that this would be a

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great thing to enhance the human experience, um, you know, to make a super soldier, so to, so to speak,

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and enhance their, their intellect, enhance their, uh, physiologies, um, all, all kinds of things.

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This is what he envisioned. He had no idea that it would be used in this way. And he testified and

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that the, we use this in Iraq when we were, um, transmitting or Afghanistan, we were transmitting

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the voice of Allah into their heads. And he, Allah was telling them to lay down their weapons and just

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give up. And this is why they were giving up by the hundreds. Um, so this is real. This is here.

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And this is now. And the reason I'm on this agenda is the first line of defense is knowing,

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because once you know that this exists, you then be able to start to protect yourself

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and protecting yourself really involves being in tune to who your inner spirit is.

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You know, what your true value system is, you know,

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what your moral compass is. And it's important that you identify that early on and, and quickly,

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because if you ever get exposed to this, um, Dr. Duncan says, and he believes,

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he says, there's no defense against it. He says, they can get you to do whatever they want.

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So if you want to do a social engineering experiment, this is the perfect weapon.

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If you want to divide and conquer the masses in order to continue the chaos in politics,

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this is a perfect weapon. And this is where we're at today.

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Wow. That's amazing, Jesse. Um, so tons of information there. Uh, this is all the stuff that,

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that Roger Lear worked on, right? He, I know he, he collected many implants over the years.

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Did you look up to him or did you, did you use his work as a reference?

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No, I didn't. Uh, he, like I said, um, I stumbled upon this by accident and, um,

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I am familiar with Dr. Lear's, uh, work. I was recently on coast to coast and that's why they

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wanted me to come on. Um, cause they want me, they say, well, you're, you're the next guy to carry

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the baton. Well, that's not what I was looking to do. Um, what I was looking to do, expose the truth,

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help these individuals who are suffering because currently there are no resources whatsoever

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for any of these victims, uh, in the general population. There is zero. Um, what happens is, um,

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because, um, uh, the protocols right now, if you go to see your general practitioner,

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a psychologist, psychiatrist, they just check boxes. And as soon as you say, you're very,

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these strange sounds, you're automatically having psychosis, you're, you're schizophrenic,

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you name it. So they re-victimize these people again. They can't do this anymore when we're pulling

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implants out of people. Um, they just can't. And so this is why we're, we're on this fight. So,

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you know, how does the process work? Generally, we'll do an RF scan, a preliminary RF scan, which

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allows us to calibrate, uh, where you have to be at least two inches from the emission

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around a person. If they come up positive, uh, depending on how long they've had the symptoms,

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if it's been a long time, they will say, get a panoramic X-ray, get an MRI scan,

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other areas of your body, because you may have large, larger technology in you.

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Um, after that, then we have, you get what is called a nonlinear junction scan and a nonlinear

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junction scan is utilized because there are two types of implants. Uh, and, and the categories

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I'm going to talk about, there are the active, those are the ones that are around 365 days a year,

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24 seven. Okay. And then there's the passive, the passive implants have to be activated by sending

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a frequency emission to it. Okay. And, uh, what it does, it'll send out an echo looking for ferrous

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material. So any type of, uh, metals or electronic type, um, devices. And then if it detects that an echo

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will be reflected back and then it'll send out, um, a third echo and that'll locate and, and give us

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the location and frequency of that device and how it operates a frequency range of what activates it.

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So a nonlinear junction scan would be something further on in the, in the testing phase. Ultimately,

438
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and I was, um, asked by some foreign government agencies early on, um, to visit them in Europe

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so that I can test some of their diplomats and family members. And they wanted me to bring anyone

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who I felt may be victim to this, who came up positive in my preliminary scans and what it, and

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they allowed me, I had to sign an NDA, but they took me to a research university and they allowed me to

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use what it's called an anechoic chamber. And an anechoic chamber is a very robust Faraday cage.

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It has these huge frequency spectrums that it blocks out. And there are millions and millions of

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dollars. And so what we did is we use controls, people who weren't victims, and we tested them in

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the anechoic chamber and got zero frequency emissions. But what was interesting is those who

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came up positive in the preliminary scans did come up positive for frequency emissions in the anechoic

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chamber. It was at that point that we realized we can now say that this emission is coming from the

448
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person. In a heavy duty, hardcore anechoic chamber. Correct. Yeah. I had a, I had a, uh, a friend,

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a research, uh, research partner, and he was actually investigating a local, uh, abductee case,

450
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you know, continuing family experience or case. And he went down this route that you're talking about

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where he actually found a World War II bunker and brought the woman down there and then tried to do

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an RF scan, um, for the same reasons, trying to rule out any other sort of, uh, inner, you know, radio

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interference. And, um, he ended up dropping the case. The whole thing was so strange. They had, you know,

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terrible, basically being tortured essentially is what it sounded like, this poor family. Um, and really the

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local community, all the people around them, uh, just assumed they were crazy. Basically that was,

456
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that was the local, um, like, like you mentioned, anytime you talk about, uh, really the, the absurd,

457
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when you really talk about that, then it's, it's very easy to, to write it off. So you were able to,

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to get the actual frequencies inside that anechoic chamber and confirm what, when was this,

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when did that happen? That would have been in 2012, 2013. We have, um, and I'll leave you a link

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for, for you and your audiences to go to, where you can see all this material that I'm sharing

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is I'm, I'm giving it to everyone and you can see our phase three report. And our phase three report

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is, uh, the bath, that particular individual case, uh, which was tested in the anechoic chamber there.

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And you mentioned the NSA that the, one of these devices, the, the ID number,

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you were able to trace it to the NSA. Can you, can you talk more about that? I mean,

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do you think this is the NSA doing all this or what is your impression?

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Yeah. Well, uh, in, in that case, that would be between Bob Boyce and his attorneys. Um, I,

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I was sharing what Bob Boyce had conveyed to me after looking at the evidence. Um, who was doing

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this? Here's what I can say to this day. We know that there are many corporations out there who are

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on this track and on this race. Obviously we know Elon Musk is working with this brain chip.

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What people don't know is BlackRock probably has the most sophisticated brain chip out there. It can

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connect to 10,000 neurons in the brain. And what's interesting about that is in order for it to work,

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it specifically says you have to inject the nanotech in you first. So the net, the nanotech without

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getting people confused itself, as I mentioned earlier, it's self-replicating and self-assembling,

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but how they get it to do that is through, uh, electromagnetic pulses. So they can guide this

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stuff wherever they want in the human body, just by sending a specific frequency to it and it'll go

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and it'll go past the blood brain barrier. Okay. That's important. Interesting enough. The, the,

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the kid that, uh, attempted to assassinate, uh, Trump, um, was in a BlackRock commercial

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in a classroom setting with them. And I find that fascinating, but Raytheon is working on this

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technology, uh, obviously IBM. And if we look throughout history, if we, um, think about during

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the concentration camps who developed the punch card system, it was IBM. Um, so, and then we know,

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or, you know, our, our military has vested interests in this technology, particularly if we're in an arms

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race. But if you're looking at, um, oh, president Putin gave an interview to the Politico and it was

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in regard to psychotronic weapons. And Putin says the first superpower to master psychotronic weapons

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will be the superpower to rule this, rule this planet. Um, and, and so this is, this is what we're dealing

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with. Wow. I, uh, in Lou Elizondo's recent book, his only book imminent, he has photos of implants,

486
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uh, or he mentioned it in the book and then he had, uh, he went on video actually and showed implants.

487
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Um, did you look into those specific implants at all? Do you know? I have not. And now that you

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mentioned that I, I, I will, um, because here's what I can say. I, I, I, I, I know that that has

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been at the forefront. It's been very popular topic and they talk about when this implant was being

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excised, that it seemed to want to have, have its own, um, intellect where it was trying to get away.

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It could move, I guess. Yeah. They were saying, yeah, it can move. So, so my suspicion that this is

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probably a nanotech, um, constructed membrane around the implant. Um, as far as these implants

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being in alien nature, uh, right now, I haven't seen any evidence of that. What I have seen is

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that these are all very similar to implants that we have seen being taken out of the human body

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that can be tracked to a biomedical company. Have you named this biomedical company?

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All the, all the medical company, all those agencies that I just mentioned are all working

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with this. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Wow. I mean, it, if true, it breaks so many moral ethical lines.

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Um, it is, it is, it, it, this is, this is the, and this is why we're, we're, we're sharing this

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information because this is really a fight for our species, for our existence. Now, if you remember

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the Nuremberg code is, is any experimentation must require full consent. Okay. And, uh, just

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my fact of that document for the prisoners, they're, they're doing it covertly. Those prisoners,

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even though they're, they incarcerated, they have to be given full consent. Now here, here's the thing.

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If you can manipulate, um, I can do it with my own voice because I'm trained and I know how to use

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language in a way that can bypass the conscious mind. But if you're using technology,

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uh, basically what you and Cameron was doing is nothing. Now we have it on steroids because you

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can transmit messages to these people. You can, um, bypass their subconscious. And Dr. Duncan, um,

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has a couple of, uh, presentations that he talks about that. Um, you can get anyone to do anything

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that they wouldn't normally do. And if you get the right personality type, those who are highly

509
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suggestible, you can get them, uh, to do something like the Myron Mays, like the Aramel Lexuses,

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and not remember that they even did it. And this is where we're at today.

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Okay. Um, I have a special case I wanted to mention, uh, in the last 20 years, um,

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we know what frequency spectrums we're looking for. We know, um, because we've been doing this for so

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long, but recently had a case where he's a special forces, special ops guy. And he had an incident

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that he couldn't explain a lot regarding loss of time. And, um, and, and then he started to

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get the unusual sounds. And so we said, Hmm, I wonder. So I did a preliminary scan on him. He came

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up positive. So we sent him immediately to go get the nonlinear junction scan. And he came up positive

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in six locations with the nonlinear junction scan. What was interesting is the frequency

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that we were detecting was something we've never seen before. And so when we went to look up who

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had the least, uh, ownership on this particular frequency, uh, I figured it was going to be the

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United States and it, it wasn't. Um, I had a hunch. So I started to look in Europe and what we found is

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that frequency that's being emitted from his person is owned by NATO. Now, remember I talked about

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the celestial report. Um, she, she talks about that, you know, there is a push strong push to have this

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one world government, um, on September 24th, prior to, um, our retreat that we just had, um, the UN,

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um, there, there was a push to, to pass this treaty with the who it didn't, it didn't pass. So what they

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did is they passed a pact at the UN that would require that every living human on the planet would

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have this bio chip biosensor put in them. Um, and she's saying that the United States in that pack,

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uh, and we are part of that pack would, uh, be giving away our sovereignty. Um, and so,

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you know, what does this mean? I don't know. NATO owns on this particular soldier owned, uh,

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the leasing on that frequency that was being emitted from his person. And Dr. Greer has a similar case,

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um, of a special forces, uh, personnel, um, who has a similar frequency. I was not aware that Dr.

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Greer was testing for these types of things. Um, but it was brought to my attention that they do

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have a similar case. Now it's a, when we talk about threat to our species, that that's a different

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topic. That's about the nanotech. Um, and how, um, the research papers say that they could change a

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species within six generations. There's a, um, at our retreat, there was a very talented lady. Her

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name is Dr. Rima LeBeau. She was married to general stubblebine and he's since passed, but she, her,

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it's her position that you can change a species within one generation. So this is, this is why it's

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important that we get the message out. Uh, and there has to be some serious conversations on, you know,

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what, what do we do about this? Um, there has to be a point where this divide and conquer mentality has

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to stop. Um, we are the ones, we are the masses. We are the ones with the power. Um, so it's important

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that we wake up. It's important that we educate ourselves. It's important that we understand the

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implications of technology and how it's outpaced our laws. Um, and then we have to come up with a

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solution on how we move forward. Um, it's one thing, uh, if you choose to put this stuff in you,

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but it's your right, it's your choice. Um, it's another thing if this is imposed upon you

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covertly against your will. Um, and then how do we deal with that?

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I, I just keep thinking, do you have a bunch of implants? You know, do you have the actual

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hard material? Cause this seems like the best hard evidence that we could say we could, we could find

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apart from a ship, right? If you're looking at actual. Um, I'll talk about that. Um, yeah. So

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I've always been, um, of the position, this is all human intervention. Now, if you look at the New

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World Vistas report, you look at that IBM document that we've intercepted, um, you, you have to start

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to wonder, and remember they can, and, and Dr. Duncan's work, they can imprint, uh, they're talking

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about imprinting a memory set from one individual and then imprinting it in another. In the same token,

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they're talking about erasing memory sets. So when you talk about these abductions, so there's

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three categories. We have the UFO abduction category. We have the my lab, uh, category,

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which is they, uh, individuals who believe they were abducted by the military and implanted. And then

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you have this AHI Havana syndrome phenomenon that's going on. So you have those three categories.

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Now, if they can imprint a memory set and print false memories, um, then you have to say,

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you know, is this your abduction that is this my lab abduction that, or is this something else,

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or is it a combination of the two? Um, I, I have been, I, I was expressing to you prior to us going

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on on live is that I had an experience that I never, that was life-changing for me, uh, at this event

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we held in Tucson, Arizona. Just a week ago, right? Or two weeks ago? Yeah. Just not too long. Two weeks

561
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ago. Hadn't been too long ago. And I, and I'm a hardcore skeptic. Uh, but I can say after what we

562
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:57,280
experienced, I can no longer say that I'm a hardcore skeptic, I'm probably 90% saying, well,

563
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there is this unusual phenomenon that needs to be investigated further. And 10% of me says,

564
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I'm saving that because I know what technology we are in possession of right now. Um, and I know that

565
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:17,520
there are certain patents out there, but what I experienced was, um, um, I was out the front of the

566
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:23,520
facility talking to my business partner. And then it was nighttime. He smoked cigarettes. I don't,

567
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but I was just joining him because we can have a smoke. And what flew in front of me was this white

568
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:34,960
ball of light and he's two feet in front of me. And I, and it flew by and I go, did you see that?

569
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And he goes, no, but I felt that he goes, what was that? And I, I expressed to him what it was.

570
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I thought, well, that's interesting. And then later on in the evening,

571
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I know we had speakers there. We had, um, uh, psychiatrists. We had Dr. Alex Bloom there.

572
01:06:50,960 --> 01:07:01,040
Um, we had physicians. Um, we had, um, uh, Peter DiNucci, uh, who was an airline pilot and he

573
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:08,480
trained tens of thousands of people, uh, over the human factors. And he wrote a book about, uh,

574
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:14,960
the UFO phenomena. Um, and so they were, and a lot of this was new to me. I'm I've only covered this

575
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:21,760
topic of Havana, Samro and Antony implants, uh, over the last two decades. And we did what, uh,

576
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I guess something that I was never exposed to. I guess Dr. Grew does. This was a C five session.

577
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And again, I'm a skeptic. So my eyes are open the entire time watching to see are any tricksters

578
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:38,320
around or anything like that. And lo and behold, two other witnesses go, wow, did you just see that?

579
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And what we saw was a white orb in the sky burst into an outer ring of white light. And then it

580
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:51,520
just disappeared. I go, wow, that was fascinating. What the heck was that? Um, because my thought was,

581
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:56,800
well, okay, maybe this meditation is inducing hypnosis suggestions, but none of the planting of

582
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:02,240
seeds was ever used in their meditation phase. So that's what I was being critical of. I was trying

583
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to see if that was the reason why people would have an experience. Um, but I, I, I could deny that.

584
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So I thought that was very interesting, but when I was convinced that there was, that I really had

585
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:21,600
to open it up. My mind was the following morning. I don't sleep very much. I sleep maybe two to three

586
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hours a night. And so I was up at 4 45 in the morning and having, I made a cup of coffee in Tucson,

587
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:33,600
Arizona. It's really, really hot during the day, but at that time it's beautiful. And so there was

588
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a gravity chair out by a gazebo in the backyard of the facility. And I went there and I'm having

589
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,800
my cup of coffee and I'm looking up in the sky and I see what I believe is a satellite. It's a,

590
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:47,600
it's a white orb just flying very slowly across the sky and go, oh, that's gotta be a satellite

591
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:53,360
until it does this right angle turn very fast. Another right angle turn and it zips off gone.

592
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And I go, wow, that's really fascinating. I said, well, that must be what you call a UAP.

593
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:07,280
And then 35 minutes later, a fleet of them flies by and then zips off. So it's, you know,

594
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:13,440
what was that experience? I have to say now that, you know, prior to that it was a hardcore skeptic.

595
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:22,320
Um, very hardcore. You couldn't convince me otherwise. And, and what, you know, where I'm at now is,

596
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:32,080
you know, okay, is this human or is this something else? Um, um, in my mind, you know,

597
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:38,320
I'm wondering is, is that some type of unmanned aerial vehicle of some sort that, uh, we have

598
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:44,160
a technology that, you know, that isn't being exposed yet. So, but that's where I'm at that.

599
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,440
That's what my experience was.

600
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:55,120
Yeah. You, you, you hear about the earth as a garden or a zoo. I think even

601
01:09:55,120 --> 01:10:00,880
Lou Elizondo's used that reference as a zoo before. And in that case, you know, it feels like

602
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:06,480
the humans, if they're the animals being tagged, you know, this would be a great way to do it.

603
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:12,240
Um, but it is interesting that they're using biosensors that we could detect, right? You know,

604
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:17,920
that they just happened to develop, uh, better technology. Have you actually detected any of

605
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:22,880
these actual nano? Does anyone have any evidence of nano engineered?

606
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:29,040
Well, it's, it's interesting that you say that at this retreat that we just did. So typically

607
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:34,720
I'm only engaging with people who are having symptoms. These are the type of personnel. And I've

608
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:40,640
had all walks of life. So I've had attorneys, doctors, uh, judges, uh, blue collar workers,

609
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:48,320
white collar workers all come to me. Um, so it it's, it's the whole gamut. And, but, but they're

610
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:56,480
always people with symptoms during this. And with one exception, I did have an event that I was invited

611
01:10:56,480 --> 01:11:02,800
to. We was a music model in California and he heard my, about my work and he just wanted me to scan

612
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:10,720
his group. They were all business leaders. And in that, um, I was surprised because I didn't expect

613
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:15,920
to find anything. And some of the people in the group were coming up positive, but only in

614
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:24,400
two locations, the right arm and the left arm. Okay. There was a couple of not anomalies and one was in

615
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:29,200
the knee and one was in the hip. I asked, did you have anything done there? And they had prior surgeries.

616
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:36,400
So prior to that, I don't generally scan, uh, just what we would call the general population,

617
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:43,440
people with no symptoms other than what in Europe. And at this retreat, people were fascinated by my

618
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:52,000
presentation and wanted to get scanned. And so I, I did do scanning and, um, there was one military

619
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:56,960
subcontractor who came up positive in all the locations that we typically see someone who is a

620
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:03,840
military subcontractor was one individual. The other individuals, um, not everyone, just a couple.

621
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:10,960
Um, I did get a positive reading in a very unusual location, which I don't typically see.

622
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:19,840
And it was in the, the right torso where your lung is or the left. And they were coming a positive,

623
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:26,720
very, very focal locations during their, in those areas. Um, so it's a new data set. It's a, it's a new

624
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:32,800
thing that I'll be watching and we'll be collecting more data on that. Um, because I would like to do a

625
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:39,280
campaign where we just start testing the general population because now we're dealing with nano and

626
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:46,480
how can nano get in you. Obviously injective injectables are the easiest way to do this.

627
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:56,800
Uh, ingestion and, um, ingestion of this can be done. There was a study that was sent to me

628
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:07,440
recently, uh, by a gentleman, uh, by the name of Dr. Lynn Bear. And she, it was a study regarding the

629
01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:14,640
lidocaine derivatives that you use when you go to the dentist. And it was interesting in the slides

630
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:20,400
that they were showing that there were nano particles in there, but evenly dispersed throughout

631
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:28,080
the slide. And when they expose it to EMF, it would go into a square looking like a little, a square chip.

632
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:37,200
So, um, that is something new and very recent. And so that it's something that, you know, we, we need

633
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:43,760
to investigate and continue to, to look into that path. Are these RF detectors, are they expensive?

634
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:49,120
You know, if someone in the audience wanted to test themselves or their friends or something,

635
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:55,360
you know, are these expensive? Yeah. We use what, um, in the preliminary environment,

636
01:13:55,360 --> 01:14:02,880
we use what is called a JM 20 pro, uh, frequency detector. And if you get a positive reading there,

637
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:08,640
then we use what is called this and a Seiko, uh, frequency counter, which will give us a numerical

638
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:16,800
reading. Um, those generally you can get, uh, fairly well inexpensively in the way that we say,

639
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:25,200
uh, a nice good one today would be around five to $600. And the frequency counters are 300 bucks to

640
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:32,240
700 bucks right in there. Where it gets expensive is the preliminary junction scanners. Those start off

641
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:40,400
around 30,000 and go up as high as a hundred thousand. Wow. Oh, excellent. So you mentioned

642
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:45,520
that, uh, you have all this documentation online. Where, where can people go to, to find out more

643
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:53,520
information? I will give you a link. Um, I have a directory that's open to the public, uh, in my

644
01:14:53,520 --> 01:15:03,760
OneDrive and you can see all this documentation in there. Okay. Um, what, and then I guess while we're

645
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:11,760
running out of time here, uh, what is your most interesting, uh, hypnosis therapy session or,

646
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,360
or session, if you will, I'm assuming you've done hypnotherapy and looked into,

647
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:24,480
uh, into, uh, UAP encounters, et cetera. Um, not the UAP encounters. Um, uh, no one has come to me,

648
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:34,080
um, as of yet with, uh, an abduction claim and want to be regressed. Um, uh, I have had a very,

649
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:43,200
and most recently an unusual regression. Typically people regress into human form, but up until

650
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:53,200
recently I've had two cases, uh, where they were not in human form. Um, uh, the most recent one you

651
01:15:53,200 --> 01:16:04,080
would say would be in some type of form that was not human. Um, um, and, and the fact that, uh, you

652
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:12,240
would typically describe it as alien. Um, the one priority that I'm referring to, um, is, uh, an

653
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:21,920
individual, she, uh, highly intuitive, uh, sensitive talks about having these, um, dimensional,

654
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:30,320
trans dimensional interactions. And she regressed into what is called light form. That's the only way

655
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:39,040
I can describe it, uh, a light being. And, um, that was unusual. What was really interesting is that

656
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:45,200
we were filming this and we had others in the environment and then the camera person just set

657
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:52,960
the camera and, and left the room, but the whole room, when she was regressed into this light beam,

658
01:16:54,400 --> 01:17:03,360
um, was electrified. Your hair on your arms was standing. In fact, everyone in the room could feel

659
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:09,120
it. And when the camera person walked back in, he's that's first thing he says, what's going on.

660
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:15,360
He builds this electricity going through his body. Um, I found that to be fascinating. So what we want

661
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:22,240
to do with this individual later is we want to have, um, some other equipment out, um, to see if

662
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:28,880
we can recreate this phenomenon and see like maybe with the FLIR spectrum analyzers and other devices that

663
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:33,440
we can have in the room. So when we do that regression again, that was pretty fascinating.

664
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:42,560
Okay. Well, well, thank you so much, Jesse. Then thanks for your, uh, over a decade work into this,

665
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:48,400
into this topic. I know it's, I mean, only recently now can we even really talk about implants,

666
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:53,680
you know, on, on YouTube. I feel like even just a couple of years ago, if I brought that up

667
01:17:53,680 --> 01:18:00,160
or did a show on it, I think I would receive serious stigma, et cetera. Whereas now after,

668
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:06,400
after lose admission, um, we're hearing more and more information. It just seems like perfect timing.

669
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:13,360
So thanks for, thanks for coming out. Yeah, no, no problem. And, and once you have the evidence,

670
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:18,000
it's hard, it's hard to get censored. Um, as long as you're not talking about that,

671
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:24,640
that special jab that everyone's getting, um, you can pretty much share it. And, and, and, and we tried

672
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:35,840
to do evidence-based presentations. Um, you, we, we will stay away from, um, subjective theories. Um,

673
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:44,160
we won't share that unless we have the evidence to back it. Okay. All right. Thanks again, Jesse.

674
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,280
Thank you so much. Yeah. Uh, thank you for giving me the spot for it.

675
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:54,000
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