1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Extraordinary claims coming out of Canberra tonight with a former Prime 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,600 Minister allegedly on a list of suspected pedophiles. Liberal Senator Bill 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Heffernan, who is pushing for the Child Abuse Royal Commission to include the 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,160 legal profession, told an explosive Senate hearing he has a police list of 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:29,920 28 prominent suspects. There's a former Prime Minister on this list and it is a 6 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:37,360 police document. And now I'd like to introduce to you Fiona Barnett, that's B-A-R-N-E double T, 7 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,360 who is one of the bravest people you will ever have the privilege to meet. Throughout my childhood 8 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:49,120 I was a victim of Australia's VIP child sex trafficking ring. For example, I was prostituted 9 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:54,800 to pedophile parties at Parliament House Canberra and to an international leader at Fairbain Military 10 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Airport. The people involved in this elite pedophile ring included high-ranking politicians, police and 11 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:09,360 judiciary. From the late 1980s I reported my abuse experiences to multiple healthcare professionals, 12 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,720 not one of whom adhered to mandatory reporting requirements. I reported to New South Wales 13 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:23,120 Police in 2008. I reported to the Royal Commission in 2012. I reported to Operation Attest in Canberra. 14 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:29,440 I made formal witness statements to New South Wales Police and have agreed to do more. I have 15 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,600 reported directly to the New South Wales and Federal Police Commissioners and to the New South 16 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:41,120 Wales Coroner. I have provided sufficient names, times, dates and places for authorities to investigate. 17 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:49,680 My experiences were horrific beyond words. I witnessed child abduction, torture, rape, murder. 18 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:58,000 But the way I've been treated for reporting the crimes I witnessed and experienced has been far worse than 19 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:06,080 my original abuse experiences. Victims endure the most miserable childhoods. We then spend the rest of 20 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:12,720 our lives paying for the crimes committed against us. Victims are constantly placed under excessive scrutiny. 21 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:19,040 If we can't provide a precise time and date for something that happened 40 years ago, we are called 22 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:25,840 liars. If we get emotional, we're labelled crazy. If we are vocal, we're just attention seekers. 23 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:32,880 It's time to focus our attention away from victims and onto those responsible for the crimes against 24 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:40,800 children. In the 2006 census, Australians identified child protection as their number one concern. 25 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,080 Why then does our government continue to ignore the public's concern for children? 26 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:54,800 Australia is a pedophile haven. Our laws are written, interpreted and administered in a way that 27 00:02:54,800 --> 00:03:02,160 benefits pedophiles and silences victims of crime. Our university lecturers teach pro-pedophilia material. 28 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:08,080 Our health boards continue to allow offending doctors and psychologists to practice. 29 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:17,200 We are up to our second Royal Commission into child abuse in 20 years. The Wood Royal Commission was 30 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,240 indeed a failure. If it was successful, I wouldn't be standing here right now. 31 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:28,560 The Wood Royal Commission was established in response to complaints about the VIP pedophile ring 32 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:34,320 that abused me. This is the exact same elite pedophile ring that I reported to the current Royal 33 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:40,960 Commission. In 2013, I asked the Royal Commission, what are you going to do differently to the failed 34 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:47,440 Wood Royal Commission? They had no answer for me. If the Royal Commission does not result in the 35 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:53,760 investigation and prosecution of the VIP pedophiles that victims like me have named, then they are just 36 00:03:53,760 --> 00:04:01,280 information gathering. I know you want me to stand here and name names. Yet to concentrate on the names 37 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:07,040 serves to shift the focus from the entire reason I'm standing here. I have provided the names to the 38 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:13,680 authorities. It is their responsibility to combine my information with what other victims have presented 39 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:19,840 and properly investigate. And now I will give you some VIP names. Michelle. 40 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:28,000 Michelle was a friendly 12 year old with long dark hair. I witnessed her abduction, rape and murder 41 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:36,160 when I was six years old. Samantha. Samantha was nine years old with wavy long brown hair and a warm smile. 42 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:43,920 She had Down syndrome. Samantha was murdered when I was 12 years old. Chloe. Chloe was an attractive 43 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:50,000 four year old with brown straight cut hair into a bulb and sea green eyes. Chloe was murdered when I was 14 44 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:58,240 years old. Don't make this about me. Focus on those victims who couldn't be here today to personally share 45 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:15,280 what happened to them at the hands of the VIP pedophiles who have infiltrated Australia's supreme institutions. 46 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:34,720 She always used to have beautiful gardens. Flower gardens, full of flower gardens. 47 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:42,880 Down there is Holsworthy army barracks. It's not very, it's just a five minute driveway or so 48 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:49,680 on Heathcote Road. So everything's very, very close. We're very close to Waterfall. Waterfall's just two 49 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:55,680 train stations away. It goes Ingedeen, Heathcote, Waterfall and all that down there. Those mountains 50 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:04,800 are there. Acres and acres and acres of bushland where they've committed multiple murders. I've seen 51 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,160 people murdered in the bush. I've seen a guy tied to four different vehicles and bikies were involved as 52 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,800 well and they all drove off in different directions and his body exploded. I was age six when I saw that. 53 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:23,040 I've seen multiple human sacrifices. Sacrifice of children, hobos, people they abducted, children they 54 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:29,520 abducted, children bred in captivity. And this is where it all started. These are the people that handed me over. 55 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Helen was Lithuanian and Peter was Polish. Fiona had been staying with Helen and Peter 56 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:46,000 and she was three years of age and must have picked her up on the Sunday night and she came home and 57 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,840 she went into her bedroom and that. I could just see her standing at the door and she said, 58 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:55,920 right, she said, you're not allowed in my room anymore. She was fun. 59 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:03,120 Fun. Yeah. She was rebellious. She stood up to teachers. It was always, 60 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,920 she was always entertaining. It's always good to just be standing a couple of meters away from her 61 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,040 when that was happening. You would never go and stand next to her because you wouldn't want to get 62 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:22,000 in trouble yourself. I was an unwilling member of a coven which was part of a greater crime syndicate 63 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:32,160 which involved drugs, guns and sex trafficking, including child sex trafficking, human trafficking. 64 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,920 So you were an unwilling part of that coven. 65 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Yes, absolutely. I signed up from before my birth. 66 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,680 Well, you didn't sign up if it was before. 67 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,800 I did not sign up. So it was like being born into the mafia but never 68 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,920 actually volunteering to be a member. But the same rules apply for leaving. You can check 69 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,680 out any time you like but you can never leave. Like Hotel California sign up. 70 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,640 So who signed you up? 71 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:02,400 My grandparent, Helen Holofchek. Helena Miloweska or Helena Holozak, Holofchek, whatever you want to say. 72 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,840 So it was her initiation, do you think? 73 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:06,000 Yes. 74 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,920 And what about her partner, Peter? What was his involvement? 75 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,720 My step grandfather. Oh yeah, he was involved heavily. 76 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,520 He was, yeah. He did the dirty work. 77 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,640 What was his role in your life? 78 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:26,240 Uh, he was to abuse me. Um, for people involved in ritual abuse and mind control, 79 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,800 you must also sexually abuse them. Um, so that if they do remember anything, 80 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,360 they'll remember the sexual abuse and the pedophilia and they'll go, 81 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,520 oh, you know, everyone would say, oh, well, that's what was wrong. 82 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,560 And they don't go any further, any deeper than that. 83 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,600 So the pedophilia is almost a safe... 84 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,360 It's a cover. It's a cover. It's a red heron. 85 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,760 For the mind control. 86 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,720 For the real bad stuff. 87 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:52,560 Not just mind control, um, the, the ritual abuse, the satanism, satanic ritual abuse. 88 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,200 She had this white hair, not blonde, but white hair, 89 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,040 standing there amongst all the other girls and she stood out. 90 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,080 I mean, all of the girls in the photo I think were quite attractive, 91 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,800 but Fiona stood out because of this white hair. 92 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,600 And, um, she looked angelic, yeah, back, back in those days. 93 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,280 Beautiful looking girl. 94 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,200 This is a house of horrors. 95 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:23,200 I was abused in this house from, uh, when I first stayed over here. 96 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,560 I was left here alone with my, what I thought were my grandparents, 97 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:32,160 from the age of, oh gosh, almost two, I think. 98 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,040 I'm, I'm not sure when I found out. 99 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,320 Probably a decade ago, perhaps a bit longer. 100 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:38,960 Yeah. 101 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:39,520 Yeah. 102 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,800 Was that a surprise? 103 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,520 No. 104 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Not a surprise. 105 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,360 Tell me why it wasn't a surprise. 106 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:51,280 Um, because I have been around quite a few people who've had abuse in their past. 107 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,520 It seemed to happen quite a lot. 108 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:03,840 My biggest problem with Helen was when I was pregnant with Fiona, my first child. 109 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:10,640 Helen determined that she was having the child and I was going back to work. 110 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,160 This was a foreign idea to me, you know, like I'd never heard of this. 111 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:16,720 What did she mean? 112 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,360 How did she have? 113 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,920 She was going to have, I could visit Fiona on weekends. 114 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:21,920 To raise her. 115 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,440 She was going to have her all week and I was allowed to see her weekends. 116 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:28,880 Okay. 117 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,680 Helen, I'm having this baby because I want to have this baby, you know. 118 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:40,080 No way, you know, and she was determined that it was, that she wanted this baby. 119 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,080 See, that's the original gate, security gate, and there used to be a dog out there all the time. 120 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,560 That's where the dog named Satan lived. 121 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:58,240 There used to be a sign at the front of the house with, um, with the name Lublin written on it. 122 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:03,120 And that's named after the town in which the death camp was that Peter worked at. 123 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,960 At times I'd go over when Fiona, if she stayed over there, I'd go to pick her up. 124 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:16,640 He used to, uh, play the pillow like a guitar, you know, and get Fiona to dance. 125 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:23,760 And he used to say repeatedly, repeatedly all the time, and now it would be something I'd respond to, 126 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,120 but he would say, ah, Fiona and Poppy have got a secret. 127 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:32,400 Hey, Fiona and Poppy have got secrets, you know, don't you tell anyone your secrets, you know. 128 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,800 And he used to say that repeatedly. 129 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,520 I remember being abused in that garage. 130 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,320 I remember there was an old fridge in that garage. 131 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:47,200 When I was three, I was put in it with all bugs and roaches and everything. 132 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,800 And he shut the door on me, Peter did. 133 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:50,880 Freaked me out. 134 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,280 And I remember the dog, he used to, I used to have to run and hide from the dog. 135 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,760 And he used to set the dog on to me. 136 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,560 It was the first flashback I ever had. 137 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,120 And it was of me being tied on my knees in front of a big table. 138 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,640 And Peter and the next door neighbour, who was a really tall, well-built guy 139 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:15,360 with brown curly hair, they murdered a little blonde toddler. 140 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Not toddler, it was about three. 141 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,560 Peter had supposedly suicided. 142 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:29,600 Fiona started having a lot of memory, a lot of flashbacks, 143 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,240 a lot of memories coming up about what had happened. 144 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:41,680 Oh, well, I've been around when she's had ab reactions outside of therapy. 145 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:42,880 Right. 146 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,720 So I've been around when she's been upset. 147 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,160 So there'd be times when she'd have memories come back. 148 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,200 Something's happened that's upset her and she's not known why. 149 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:56,560 And then later on, get upset or something else has happened that's triggered her to 150 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,000 to be upset or angry and... 151 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,160 I've lived it. 152 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:10,400 And you can't even possibly try to tell me that what I lived through 153 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,840 was something from what it wasn't. 154 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:15,920 You can't do that. 155 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,200 You have no right to deny someone's personal testimony. 156 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,120 So many atrocities occurred in this house. 157 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,640 There's too many to name. 158 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,120 Multiple, multiple crimes. 159 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,880 For all of my childhood. 160 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,240 Oh, good job. 161 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,680 They're like purple now. 162 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:36,560 Does it matter? 163 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:37,120 Yes. 164 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,680 They're good. 165 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:40,800 They're good. 166 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,440 I can't. 167 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,400 He had a spread out. 168 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,200 That's what I saw. 169 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,880 Shane, that's your bit, mate. 170 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:47,680 Oh, these are you guys. 171 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:48,720 He got a special bit. 172 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:49,920 Shane, that's yours. 173 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,040 That's Spongebob's. 174 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,800 That's where it hits the testicles. 175 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,200 Bad mother. 176 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,880 Really bad mother. 177 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,800 Happy birthday, sweetheart. 178 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,760 I can still almost hear it. 179 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:16,480 She's a good person and one of the things I really admire about Fiona is that she is growing 180 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,640 and she's growing all the time and I find that amazing. 181 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:27,280 I don't think I'd be her friend if she was just in the doldrums and didn't want to get out of it. 182 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:35,920 She has had a lot on her plate in her past and she's working towards bettering herself 183 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,720 every day, which is fantastic. 184 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,600 We all should be doing that. 185 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,680 This is all spray painted, fresh paint. 186 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,480 This is your walkway and this is fresh. 187 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,320 This is since we were here a year ago. 188 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,520 Can I just come and check that there's markings as we'd expect here? 189 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,880 I think there is. 190 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,000 There seems to be a path. 191 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,640 It wasn't difficult to believe. 192 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,360 It was just new. 193 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:08,160 So do you believe Fiona's descriptions of her past? 194 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Yeah. 195 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:09,840 Yeah. 196 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Lost the paint markings, haven't we? 197 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,480 Oh, what do you reckon? 198 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Do we just follow the path? 199 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:17,520 This way? 200 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:31,680 This place, there's graves everywhere here. 201 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,440 It just goes for ages. 202 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:42,960 She isn't doing any, she's not motivated for her own gain at all. 203 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:51,840 She is always motivated for the greater good, for social justice, for helping people that might need help. 204 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:56,800 She ends up in the mess of someone else's life so often. 205 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,240 You know, the things that really matter about someone else's life. 206 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:06,960 She's only just met the person and she's suddenly bought in and she's involved and she's helping them and she's 207 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,680 advising them and what have you. 208 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,480 Without Fiona, none of this would have come to fruition. 209 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Fiona, I could never thank her enough for what she's done for me and for my son. 210 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,720 For my son especially. 211 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:28,000 You know, I'm an adult and you can pick and choose your friends when you're older. 212 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,920 But when you're a child, you trust everybody. 213 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,680 And that's hard as a parent to put somebody in front of them with such a big 214 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,920 thing that's happened to them and expect them to trust again. 215 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,160 Well, with the Gary Willis, it was, you know, she couldn't sleep. 216 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,040 You know, she knew it was going to be trouble going into that, but she couldn't sleep. 217 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:56,560 And, you know, she felt she was being asked to do something about it. 218 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:03,200 The, um, this particular teacher and a second teacher used to get these 13 year old boys 219 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:11,280 who are quite big, she had Down syndrome, this girl, and used to get the girls on the floor 220 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:16,320 and get the boys to stick sticks up their vaginas while they masturbated. 221 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:21,920 And that's partly why I admire my mother so much is because she chose not to deny it. 222 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,800 She's intense. She's honest. Selfless. 223 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,240 I just noticed, um, living with intensity. 224 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:37,600 That's what it is. It's living with intensity in the flesh. 225 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:42,320 In a way, her therapy and, you know, the healing she gained from that, um, 226 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:48,560 it definitely eased a burden that never should have been there in the first place. 227 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,120 Mm-hmm. 228 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:52,880 Now there's a difference between the intensity, her personality, cause, 229 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,600 and that's just her personality, you know, that's never going to change. 230 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,560 I was eight when I was brought here. We were brought here in the daytime. 231 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:09,040 Um, I don't like being here at all. I'm very stressed at the moment. 232 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:17,520 Brought here by my Lithuanian grandmother, Helen or Helena Miloeska or Holovchek. 233 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,680 And we waited for nightfall. We got off at Waterfall train station, I believe. 234 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:31,200 We were met here. Uh, Dr. Mark, Leonis Petruscus, was here. 235 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,160 The red-headed mistress or partner or whatever of the Ingadeem policemen. 236 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Uh, my Uncle David Holovchek, my brother, my father's younger half-brother. 237 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,920 And there were at least two other people here. 238 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,000 There could have been six to eight people looking down on me. 239 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,400 I was right out of my depth. Right out of my depth. Absolutely. 240 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:02,800 This is probably the worst memory from my childhood. Um, 241 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,920 I looked in the grave and there was a partially decomposed, 242 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:19,600 there was a body of a partially decomposed light-haired person. It was quite, it was at least 243 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:28,080 shoulder length, blondish pale-coloured hair. It was half decomposed. It was maggots. 244 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,560 So it was fresh. It's a body that the, my perpetrators had put in here and prepared, 245 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,000 you know, here's one prepared earlier. It was all ready to go. 246 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:56,080 Um, so like I said, there was at least six people. They had, uh, straps, picked my body up on the straps 247 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:09,200 and lowered me down into a very deep hole. They laid me face up on top of the partially decomposed body. 248 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:15,120 They were chanting. They were dressed in robes. I was naked. 249 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:24,560 I have a very clear memory of being lowered down and them, it wasn't quite, I can, I can see their, 250 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:31,280 I can see light, a silhouette, the silhouettes of them. So it must have been not too dark or it's a full moon, 251 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:42,960 something like that. And they're chanting to their pagan gods. And this is a, a rebirth ceremony. 252 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:55,440 Um, the thing, the decomposed body inside is called a ghoul. I was told that it would come to life 253 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:01,280 once the lid was closed or once I was in there. I believed this thing was going to come to life. 254 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,960 They put the lid on top and it went completely dark. 255 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:15,200 And I thought this thing was then grabbing me and suffocating me. I was screaming my head off. 256 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:22,880 I was screaming as much as an eight year old could scream as loud as I could scream. I was screaming for God. 257 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:30,560 I was screaming Jesus help me. I was terrified beyond words. 258 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:39,120 And I exhausted all the oxygen in there. They left me in there too long. They didn't mean to 259 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:54,560 do that. And I died. And I, I woke up in the emergency room of Sutherland Hospital. 260 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:03,040 Uh, I was, the room was tiled from floor to ceiling in pale bluish tiles. 261 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Um, I was on a, a metal slab. There was an old oxygen tank, a big oxygen tank in the room. 262 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:19,040 There was a big light shining in my eyes. There were nurses in shower caps. 263 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:28,560 And one nurse, and I had a mask on my face. And one nurse said to me, we nearly lost you. 264 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:34,000 She was very warm. And then she said, mummy's here. And oh, my heart leapt. I thought my mum was there. 265 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:40,720 I could see the door to my right. Wasn't mummy. It was the red headed witch that had low, 266 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:48,480 helped lower me in the grave. The lover of Leonis Petriscus. And the, I don't know what she was, 267 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,760 whether she was the wife or whatever of the fat Ingedine policeman. And she was a, a, a slim built 268 00:22:53,760 --> 00:23:01,680 woman with very red hair, long red hair. And she had a black crucifix on a gold chain. And I remember 269 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:08,560 looking at her and just going, thinking, that's not mummy. But I couldn't say anything. And then 270 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:15,200 Dr. Petriscus, or Dr. Mark, as I was made to call him throughout my younger years, 271 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:22,400 released me into his care. And I was taken back to Ingedine. I was taken back to 272 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Helen Holozak's house at 14 McAllister Avenue. And I was in there. And I remember being sitting in a chair 273 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:37,120 and I remember Leonis Petriscus just freaking out and pacing the room and, and talking in Polish or 274 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:43,040 whatever, another language to my grandmother. And they were all panicking and freaking out. 275 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:51,200 And then I remember him subjecting me to unethical hypnosis and trying to make me forget the whole thing. 276 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,840 And I remember I had a near death experience during this. I went through a tunnel and there was light 277 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,840 at the end of the tunnel. I, and I drew, I painted that tunnel on my bedroom wall at Fort Ioringo Street, 278 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:12,240 Budgieway, when my mum and brother and I did a mural on my bedroom wall. And I painted the tunnel and I 279 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,120 told my mum, that's the, that's the time tunnel. That's the Doctor Who time tunnel. And I knew it was 280 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:22,800 the tunnel that I'd gone through when I died. You know, for those who say I'm making this up, 281 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:30,560 live it and then tell me I made it up. I want to go now. 282 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:46,560 The ultimate thing was my children, nourishing them, develop, helping them develop and all that. 283 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:58,640 And that's why it seems like such a, you know, like a contradiction in that, you know, people, 284 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:03,040 how did you let that happen? If I didn't have that strength, 285 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:14,000 I couldn't do it. You couldn't do it. It's too bloody hard, you know, um, to, to get up and keep 286 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:21,520 going. It's like Fiona's still going, you know, the girls, you know, you know what they've had to 287 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:27,600 deal with and it's not finished yet, you know, but what they've had to deal with, you know, you've got 288 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,600 to get up and keep going. You've got to get up and keep going, you know. 289 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:35,120 How can a human being go through what I went through and survive it and get, you know, Steve kept 290 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:38,720 saying, I can't believe that you can do this. I can't believe you can do this. And I'm like, well, 291 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,760 neither can I. 292 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,160 I would walk on my, first when I was young, Peter would walk me. I'd walk on my own to, 293 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:52,400 later on to Dr Mark's house, but there was another house as well. And I would walk, 294 00:25:52,400 --> 00:26:02,400 I have vivid memories of being walked up this road by Peter, um, and getting to the end of this road 295 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:10,560 and turning left. And, uh, down the end of that road is Ingedeem Boys Town. It's, it's just, 296 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:16,720 you just turn left up there and Ingedeem Boys Town. You turn right up there and go around the corner and 297 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:24,400 you've got Dr Mark's or Leonis Petruscus's, um, medical center. This is where Leonis Petruscus worked, 298 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:38,000 Dr Mark, um, Melov. Every person employed at this medical practice in the 70s and 80s were 299 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:49,200 involved in the ritual abuse of myself and other children and crimes and murders and covering up 300 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:57,600 murders and writing false medical reports to cover for the crimes that they committed for the Sutherland 301 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:06,320 Shire and especially around Ingedeem Waterfall area. A number one rule within, within that environment, 302 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:12,000 that world is never, number one rule is never, well, number one rule is there's, there is no fight 303 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,160 club. There is no fight club. There is no fight club. You know, we don't exist. That's number one 304 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:24,720 rule. Second rule is never, never put, um, your own personal interests, desires, passions, fetishes, 305 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:33,520 you know, whatever before the common good. Never. And Bailey violated the good of the coven, 306 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,480 or the good of the order. It's not the coven. Covens are little groups. The good of the order. 307 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:45,440 I used to walk here myself, um, where I had the privilege of being sexually abused by Leonis Petruscus, 308 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:54,000 otherwise known as Dr Mark. Um, I don't remember this house. This wasn't here. But this is the general 309 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:03,040 location that I was made to walk, uh, walk down. I've handed in police statements about what happened 310 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:14,240 in this area. Uh, I was made to, I was sexually abused by Leonis Petruscus and he, and the redheaded 311 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:22,240 woman who, uh, was associated with the Inga Dean policemen. And, uh, and I've made detailed statements 312 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:29,760 about being abused here when I was about 15, 14, 15. The sexual abuse at the hands of Peter Holosak 313 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,320 stopped at about age 12. Well, it did stop at age 12. I remember the day I had the argument with him. 314 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:41,840 And that was after, uh, Dr Mark, as I knew him, said, no more. He's not to touch you anymore. And then 315 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,440 Dr Mark was only allowed to touch me. Pretty exclusive. 316 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:57,840 I was rather, I thought he was so young. I thought he was about 32, 34. I can still remember. 317 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:07,760 And he was a very slight man. And, um, but what alarm, that really stuck in my head was that she 318 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:14,160 called him Dr Mark, because in those years you didn't ever speak to a doctor by their Christian name. 319 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:24,320 Not only as her friend do I believe her, but, um, and I am a person that needs strong evidence for 320 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:30,320 things, but there's a lot of circumstantial evidence. Yeah. There's a lot of circumstance, 321 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:36,400 and it needs to be looked at. And people, and people don't realise that these things happen. 322 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:46,320 And since this, I have grown immensely as a person, because I was so naive. I didn't think that 323 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:52,320 there were people like this. I didn't think people did this kind of stuff. I didn't know that, 324 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:59,440 that people hurt children just because they think it's fun. I really, honestly, I was so naive. I 325 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:07,120 didn't think there were people like this in the world until this happened. So I'd usually be walked to 326 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:18,800 this church where they perform satanic rituals. I saw multiple sacrifices committed here. This is a stone 327 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:28,240 altar. Very easy to clean. Chloe, who was four, she was murdered here. A little four-year-old girl, 328 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:37,920 beautiful with those green come-to-bed eyes, and a very dark classic bob haircut. She was the daughter 329 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:50,560 of the red-headed woman who was at Garrawarra Cemetery. She was the partner of the Fat Ingadeen 330 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,520 policeman. I remember him sitting in here and everything. He used to walk. He was really 331 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:03,360 overweight, and he used to walk like that with his hands turned to the back. So I saw Chloe killed right 332 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:10,720 here, and then after her death, her mother, the red-headed mother, went insane, and she was bumped 333 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:17,920 off as well because she became a liability. Father Evans, he was convicted for pedophilia, 334 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:26,480 and he was connected to this place. So it was nothing for me to walk, you know, to Ingadeen Boys Town, 335 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:37,840 Australia's first boys town. The original Ingadeen Boys Town. My father was abused here. A reject 336 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:48,720 from the coven. Yeah, no, he, no, Frank wasn't like that at all. He wanted that stable family 337 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:57,040 situation because he'd never had it. He only knew abuse in his home. He was so badly treated 338 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:04,400 that he used to roam the streets all night until his mother came home on the last train from work 339 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:12,240 and meet her up at the station. So he had no home life to speak of. He was quite normal until I think 340 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:18,400 he started working with acid and cleaning houses with acid and I think that has a toll on your liver 341 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:25,200 and then he started drinking. And that has a toll on your liver and he just became violent and he 342 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,200 hung around the Malat family, as we said, which I didn't know about to my mother's interview. 343 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:35,040 She said that wasn't dad, that was, what did you say, the devil inside. Yeah, yeah. 344 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,280 And that's what it was like. It was like something had taken him over. 345 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:57,920 He said that he wanted to be 친구� fille. 346 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,800 Well, here we go. 347 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,600 Oh, 348 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:23,080 we can't even see anything do we okay let's go a little way down okay let's go let's go a little 349 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:33,100 way we just want a clearing where we can see the ledges now this is so overgrown okay so we've 350 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:43,660 like trekked through the bush trying to find a particular murder scene at the weir and this in 351 00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:51,660 the 70s when I was a child was an extremely popular swimming hole and there was a big damn wall and we 352 00:33:51,660 --> 00:33:57,640 called call this the weir we used to be able to just walk down a dirt track all the way down there 353 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:07,120 and on that side of the weir one night was a moonlit night that's where they murdered the 354 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:13,400 12 year old that I saw abducted from it's either Heathcote Road here or something that looked a 355 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:21,760 lot like it and they I was in the back of a car and they abducted a 12 year old girl who was walking by 356 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:27,880 the road she was wearing red and white you know t-shirt and and shorts she had long brown hair I 357 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,360 just remember she had long brown hair and pretty girl and when we stopped over to talk to her she 358 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:41,520 knew them and they convinced I was in the back right hand passenger side of the car and she jumped in the 359 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:53,520 back left and um they handed her some candy I think it was laced and this poor girl uh there was about 360 00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:01,520 oh there's a group of men circled around her and in robes but a lot of them were priests from uh 361 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:09,440 in good in boys town and um various people and what they did was um they hang this girl to death 362 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:19,120 on the ledge and then they sodomized her and as they sodomized her dead body um the the remaining 363 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:25,280 men stood around masturbating and I saw all of this and then they they made me think they're throwing 364 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:31,840 her body in the weir um and then I can remember being frightened of swimming my father used to make 365 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,800 me swim across the weir and um there used to be like a little I don't know some sort of motor pump 366 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,280 house or something on this side and I just have this image of going oh I just don't want to touch any 367 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,360 dead bodies like while I'm swimming because I I didn't like murky waters and to this day I don't 368 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,120 like swimming in waters where I can't see what's underneath because of this experience and I 369 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:55,600 remember swimming across because this happened when I was uh six and I remember swimming after that 370 00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,400 not long after that and thinking oh please don't let me touch any dead bodies with my toes I just don't 371 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,040 want to touch any dead bodies and I remember being terrified when we used to come as a family and swim 372 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:12,160 here we swim here all the time so they you know they sodomized her um and then the next 373 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:20,000 uh thing I remember seeing her body her body was transported to Holsworthy army barracks 374 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:28,640 and it um we went through a side gate um on off Heathcote road and we were met by um Chan he seemed a 375 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,920 lot more powerful than just someone who was in the reserves my experience of him was and and that girl was 376 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,760 well I'll talk about that when we get to Holsworthy's I just remembered as we're climbing up the hill I 377 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:46,800 forgot to tell you about Stephen who um he raped me also on that ledge so while those men were busy with 378 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:52,400 the and Peter Holosak was there he was one of the ones raping her but while they were doing all that 379 00:36:53,440 --> 00:37:01,440 this guy who fancied me pulled me aside a pedo and raped me violently and I had to relive all that in 380 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,840 the police statement and I really had to detail for the first time in my life and that was an 381 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:11,280 unsanctioned rape I wasn't to just be touched by anybody and he paid for it with his life later on 382 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:20,320 when I was about 14. He was um burnt at the stake no he was bashed to death at the dog breeder's house 383 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:27,120 he was tied tied to a stake bashed to death and so all in all rather nasty experience 384 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:39,040 she has a voice um she is articulate you wouldn't know it to speak to her but in her writing and um 385 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:47,440 you know she gives other people a voice and she does it well I'm not stopping for some stupid reason 386 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:55,280 I mean I can't stop I'm compelled to keep going this is not just about me this is about a whole bunch of 387 00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:06,640 victims that are not here to give voice themselves to what they experience this is not just me I 388 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:13,680 represent a whole thousands of people behind me babies and adults and children and whatever 389 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,920 right and I'm very conscious of that and to see the pain and anguish is in 390 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:25,520 it's not it's not something you put on so that those reactions are real 391 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:37,680 this is holes where the army barracks in one of the side entrances uh on heathcote road this is the 392 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,920 sort of entrance that I was um taken into the army grounds via 393 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:51,920 um it's through the side entrance that I was picked up by I was collected by like those jeeps you see 394 00:38:51,920 --> 00:39:00,720 in mash on the tv show mash um those army sort of jeeps with the big backs on them with the the canvas 395 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:08,480 flaps I was met by an Asian well recruit named Chan and apparently he's the only Asian at the time that 396 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:16,400 was in at holdsworthy and it was supposed to be in the reserves he was a vicious serial killer the the girl 397 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:25,760 that was murdered at the weir was um brought quick was brought here and Chan collected her body she in 398 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:35,040 the end um ended up in the military freezer and I was uh abused by Chan and other officers in sort of 399 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:44,080 makeshift camps on the army grounds it was distressing to say the least and we better get out of here 400 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,280 because someone's just pulled up let's go Shane children haven't seen daylight they're trapped they 401 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:56,160 they held her down on the fifth level under holdsworthy and you said that they said to you they're waiting 402 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:04,240 for the light man yeah they told me that they used to um get visited by the light man what does that mean 403 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,720 um they described him and and I turned around I said oh yeah I know him you know that's that's Jesus 404 00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:21,120 Christ they didn't know him or his name they just no those kids 405 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:30,480 are the worst memory of all I've seen some bad shit by those kids in the cage 406 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,760 and I was made to bond with them and I spent a few days in a in a in a cage with them in the dark and 407 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:43,520 you know they'd be sitting there like a captivated kindergarten audience you know and I'd be 408 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,960 teaching them about you know what's upside up there and I was only little was I six like with 409 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:57,200 I was telling you Eastmore Wollomba where they were sticking sticks up handicapped girls vaginas while 410 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:04,480 the teachers masturbated and they've done nothing about it you tell me where the reality lies and all that 411 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,800 they've done nothing about it and they've done nothing about it and they've done nothing about it 412 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,920 hurry up I'm scared 413 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,640 those military police might be going through our car 414 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,680 you got it come on Ray Martin 415 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,720 welcome to my parish 416 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:40,640 church this is the head church in the Sutherland Shire diocese for satanic ritual 417 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,480 this is a marble altar a step up from St John Bosco 418 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,760 marble floor very easy clean up of blood spillage 419 00:41:53,760 --> 00:42:04,080 I attended multiple multiple rituals here satanic ritual abuse I've seen multiple people murdered on this 420 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,000 marble slab 421 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:14,720 so we're at Regina Coli Catholic Church in Beverly Hills in the Sutherland Shire suburb south of Sydney 422 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:20,000 you'll note the eagle which is a predominant symbol 423 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,640 features it's also representative of the phoenix 424 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:36,000 the whole order out of chaos theme etc dating back to Horus and from ancient Egypt 425 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:46,240 I I well remember that window that I think there's a crypt beneath this one 426 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:55,120 but I I don't know how you get there so this was the one that was brought about attended by 427 00:42:55,120 --> 00:43:09,440 Dr Mark Acker Leonis Petruscus and various people around the Sutherland Shire various police officers lots of priests 428 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:18,400 the priests who worked here at the time this church was actually founded by a relative of 429 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:26,160 father Paul Evans who was convicted of pedophilia at Boys Town there's strong ties between this church 430 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:34,320 and the American military which is indicated by various emblems on the front of the church on the 431 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:40,320 windows so this is where we came for the real big sort of what do you call it sort of I don't know regional 432 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:51,520 regional regional ceremonies I was made queen bee of this diocese in when I was about 14 not something to aspire to 433 00:43:54,720 --> 00:44:00,880 I mean yeah how freaking obvious can it get look at the eagle what's that got to do with the bible 434 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:07,600 and the biblical Jesus Christ and biblical Christianity what has this got to do with Christianity 435 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:15,200 nothing it's got everything to do with Satanism that's all I'm saying she was just different they 436 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,240 didn't know how to handle her 437 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,240 she there was no one like her in our year at school 438 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:34,080 have you met anyone like her since uh no I have to say no that's that's really normal for gifted kids to 439 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:41,360 have that it's you know it's not all fabulous and that's something it's hard to convey to people so 440 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:47,840 you know you have that isolation that that natural isolation starts at around primary school where 441 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:54,400 you where you're where suddenly your interaction with other people has you know this meaning in this 442 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,840 secluded environment and there's all of a sudden there's a sort of social construct that you're and 443 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:06,400 you're finding your place in that she was so sharp really really sharp very intelligent girl 444 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:16,880 now the effect that has for a lot of people when they meet her is that um actually there's probably 445 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:23,920 two two aspects one is this mirror effect when people get to know her they can't play their games with 446 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:31,440 her and that's so for for for people who like to play games for people who've got things to 447 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,480 don't like to say things to hide but they're trying to present themselves as 448 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:46,480 one way when they're not really that way um they will get they will find themselves very uncomfortable 449 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:53,440 with Fiona and Fiona will pick that up and she doesn't like it and she won't she won't say i don't like 450 00:45:54,000 --> 00:46:02,000 to the person but she won't she doesn't like people who do play games and people who are pretending to be 451 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:12,320 something they're not and her reaction to that is it's not anger or whatever but she'll provoke them 452 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:19,440 she'll say something she'll put them in this talk to them about something put them in a situation where 453 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:26,640 they have to look at that you know what game you're playing if you if you're going to play this game 454 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:33,600 and you're going to get they end up feeling very awkward this is kernel um we're at the caltex oil 455 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:41,040 refinery um i was brought here when i was nine with a group of about ten children we were placed um in 456 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,000 front of one of the factory furnace ovens and one by one they threw the children in the ovens they 457 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:52,480 they made me think that i was going to be next and i tried to stop them from burning a good friend of 458 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:59,280 mine that i'd grown up with these are kids that were just bred for bred in secret for use for this 459 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:04,720 purpose and for sex slavery yeah i was roughed up for trying to stop them and and i was made to think 460 00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:11,920 i was next but i wasn't it was just to traumatize me the encircled pentagram sign on the caltex symbol 461 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:19,280 is is is no accident there's only one way you get become that rich and powerful that's by compromising 462 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:30,240 to gain that power they will sacrifice people they'll all seek seek a supernatural power in some way 463 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:35,440 whatever way they can get that power but that's that's the very basic bottom line it doesn't 464 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:43,120 matter what you want to call it i mean i can i could i could take a victim so far but i how are you 465 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,920 going to deal with the spiritual side of all this you know so you see it as an essential ingredient 466 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,360 the spiritual side it's yeah it's the main ingredient if you're baking a cake it's the flour 467 00:47:53,360 --> 00:48:03,200 that's something you encounter daily and i think a lot of people aren't aware of and you know they 468 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:10,240 don't they don't fully consciously acknowledge that it's there but once you start seeing it 469 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:19,840 it doesn't stop i understand coven i mean the old traditional one that everyone understood was a 470 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:30,880 witch's coven which um is a lot more prevalent than what people would like to believe i think exists 471 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:38,640 but then you have i think as i understand it now i might be wrong but i think it's um 472 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:52,240 what i think it's um i consider an occult group to be a coven occult as it can come under many many names 473 00:48:53,120 --> 00:49:04,480 but there's always like a a mystery religion aspect to it now i think i have come to face to face with 474 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:15,520 many types whether you want to call them scottish right ones um bikey ones hara krishna ones 475 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:24,560 you know there's so many um and i just see a coven as um 476 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:40,560 um a group of people any description and they have a hidden aspect to them all right well 477 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:48,800 we're at kernel it's a peninsula um there's heaps of little 478 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,840 beaches and coves and things around here and we're losing light so we can't find the beach but 479 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:06,400 i remember distinctly a beach that was um i was taken to as a kid by dr mark aka leonis petruscus 480 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:22,000 um and when i was taken there i was um i was told to dig up a body and i dug up a a body of a little boy 481 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:28,800 who must have been about five and had blonde hair it was in this area uh there's a very prominent 482 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:39,520 uh pedophile politician was there and he wanted um leonis to uh cover for the the death this is a 483 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:48,320 politician who's into necrophilia and uh he's often been portrayed as the undertaker by um newspaper 484 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:53,920 cartoonists because i think people know what he's into i think it's one of the major magazines said that 485 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,480 he used to like to go over to thailand to have sex with little boys well this fellow likes to have 486 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:03,840 sex with dead little boys and i know because i saw it to traumatize me because that's the whole 487 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,960 point of trauma-based mind control is to re-traumatize the victim to keep their 488 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:16,880 trauma-based programming intact so i experienced lots of traumas and this was one of them and i 489 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,440 overheard a discussion between this politician and dr mark petruscus 490 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:27,840 uh about how they're going to fabricate the death of the child uh which was probably 491 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,800 i don't know how he died you know asphyxiation or something but um 492 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:41,680 there was talk of a blue ring doctopus sting and so i don't i don't know what was worked out or whether 493 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:48,240 that was what they uh used as a to cover or i'm not sure but we've i know that the researchers behind 494 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:56,320 this doco since found out that petruscus wrote a published an article um to do with um the death 495 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:03,760 in papua new guinea of a five-year-old well the stinging of a five-year-old girl um who uh got 496 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:10,080 poisoned by a cone fish so it was certainly an area that petruscus was familiar with and having 497 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:15,040 studied tropical medicine at sydney uni uh he's familiar with poisons and all that sort of thing 498 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:20,880 that's one thing i experienced down here another thing i experienced down here um when i was a young 499 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:33,840 child was um uh a nurse that worked with uh leonis um in the daytime she was used as a honey trap for a 500 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:42,400 surfer she seduced him and promised him sex and then he was i think he was drugged and and the guy had like 501 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:52,800 curly blondish hair and i saw him uh ritually sacrificed to to moloch it was a fire ceremony 502 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:58,720 that night and that's what they like to do they like to burn people alive and they did it somewhere 503 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:06,400 around here i mean it's so uh it was very secluded back then uh sydney wasn't so populated 504 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:15,600 you know 30 years ago uh 30 plus years ago so this was a a popular site for the coven members to 505 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,200 murder people and dispose of bodies without being detected and they just get the local cops who are 506 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:27,440 involved with them or local doctors like petruscus to to cover anyway and i i wrote to the new south 507 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:34,640 wales coroner and i said look i've my researchers have just found out the true identity of dr mark 508 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:40,080 he's actually petruscus and i said every birth certificate death certificate that that man ever 509 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,800 signed now needs to be investigated because everything that man did should be treated as 510 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,720 suspicious and they responded oh we can't do anything without being directed by the new south 511 00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:55,680 wales police so i forwarded their response their written response to the new south wales police 512 00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:01,520 commission i said could you please direct these the coroner to investigate these you know these 513 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:08,400 documents that petruscus has fabricated to my knowledge and i i made a big list of all the murders 514 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:15,120 that i remember that he he wrote death certificates for or was involved with in some way that's the reality 515 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:23,120 folks i've had to fight very hard to have my the crimes i witnessed and and was subjected to 516 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,240 investigated they happened they happened here 517 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:40,240 australia where the bloody hell are you buried um i have often described her as crazy this this week 518 00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:43,760 you know talking to different friends i've i've said i've got my crazy friend coming down to stay 519 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:50,640 with me this weekend but she's crazy in a good way fun crazy so i dared to ask neville davis do you think 520 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:56,640 he may be asperger's or autistic so he hogtized him to prove to me that he's not because he should 521 00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,960 be screaming his lungs out by now if he's autistic because a normal autistic kid would be screaming 522 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,560 their lungs out by now and he thinks that this is a big joke and a big game so we're in there in the 523 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:09,520 dark and it was very intimate it gave me an opportunity to talk about everything with him it 524 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,120 was it was a lovely experience actually it's just one of the most privileged experience of my life 525 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,160 talking about all this deep and meaningful stuff and this is a child who 526 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,280 i only knew it was my friend's son you know like really 527 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:31,600 and the place was just crowded it was packed full of cops and uh dignitaries and councilmen and 528 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,800 the mayor and um priests from saint stanislav college and and just the local churches 529 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:47,520 so i'm up there and mark says you're you're up so i come down here and everybody's watching me 530 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:54,640 these curtains were pulled back and at the back of the stage was a huge banner the ritual banner and 531 00:55:54,640 --> 00:56:02,720 it was huge big silk satin banner there was an altar a big altar erected in the middle here and i was 532 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:13,040 made to lie down on the altar and bruce spence raped me on the altar that was that part of the ritual so i'm 533 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:18,800 what am i 15 turning 16 at this time and this was all happening during the time of the bathurst city 534 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:25,840 races so the massive crowds here are disguised by the thousands and thousands of people and dignitaries 535 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:33,200 and politicians that pour into bathurst during the races on stage uh bruce spence 536 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:42,240 who's a crap actor he's been in dimbula and mad max there's richie benno our australian 537 00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:49,920 sporting legend who was captain of the australian cricket team he's dead now there's john avery police 538 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,880 commissioner new south wales police commissioner at the time john avery 539 00:56:52,880 --> 00:57:00,400 there's uh kim beazley senior and then there's a there's an obese red-headed woman who had red 540 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:07,120 long oh well about here long red hair you know there was a microphone here like this sort of thing 541 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:13,440 and and beazley's uh sorry beazley's the main one but it alternated between benno and beazley but they 542 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:22,800 had a real wry sort of manner about him and they spoke very they had a similar demeanor and um just 543 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:34,240 mocking humanity and they so beazley was up commentating presiding over things when they 544 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:40,720 dragged onto stage they dragged a heavily pregnant woman onto stage here and she was screaming her head 545 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:46,640 off and i remember sitting over there thinking oh my god she's not drugged she's not hypnotized 546 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:54,400 and she's this is it was horrendous so there's adrenaline going through her system and adrenaline 547 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,760 going through she's her body and she's heavily heavily pregnant and naked and she had a brown 548 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:08,000 bowler cut haircut and she's one of the what they call a breeder and she's used just for breeding for 549 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:16,080 these rituals and for for child sex trafficking and um they drag her onto the stage 550 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:28,160 and they lay her down and the head for a sacrifice is always here so they're late and the feet's that end 551 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:35,440 where she's screaming right beazley's over here and he goes he goes to us i'll never forget this he goes 552 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:44,240 she's screaming and making advice and he goes um excuse us for a minute and everyone laughs 553 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:52,640 everyone thinks that's hilarious except for me and then they've got because they had two big 554 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,240 security guards dragging her onto stage and they needed extra help so 555 00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:04,000 so bruce spence who is like usually the thug type who likes to hurt people bruce spence and um 556 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:12,800 uh john avery the cop he used what he knows about holding people down and the four of them pin it down 557 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:22,480 and they're holding her legs and in her arms and whatever shoulders and then benno has a ceremonial 558 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:33,040 dagger and he um he's like it's further back shame this is here because he's further back and he um 559 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:49,680 um does his usual crap you know they they they worship their gods you know baal lucifer uh hail satan um 560 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:58,560 son of the morning and and all the other gods and goddesses you know and uh and then he 561 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:07,280 he has this knife and he slams it after he's done all his ritual you know ritualistic sort of chanting 562 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:13,600 and words and whatever and people are chanting or whatever and he um slams this dagger ceremonial 563 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:23,040 dagger two hands into the woman's i don't know around about here where the where the bone ends and 564 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:30,240 she can he can get in and he he tears her open with the knife right down to the pelvic bone 565 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:39,280 and blood just pisses out everywhere it's like a you know waterfall and just everything and um 566 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,440 and then they pull the baby out 567 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:52,320 and um and then there are people assisting and they've got um a gold platter 568 01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:05,120 and they've got um a chalice and they collect the blood of the baby they drain the baby's blood in the 569 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:16,640 chalice and then they chop the baby up and put it on the gold platter and uh and then they pass it 570 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:25,120 around for holy communion so it's it's the black mass um the real uh typical old-fashioned black black 571 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:32,560 mass that the catholic mass is based on right the catholic mass is a the latin mass is a sanitized 572 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:38,880 version of this there's nothing christian about catholic mass so that's all going on and then the 573 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:46,320 next thing i remember is they lined up this stage was lined with children who must have been about 574 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:54,240 maybe eight nine ten years of age that sort of thing and they had them lined up like this 575 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,120 on the stage they went like this they lined the children up 576 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:04,160 and the children were hypnotized and the children came forward and they're like this they're just 577 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:11,040 like this they just you know as they were told they did nothing and they just stared straight ahead 578 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,840 and they're very attractive children 579 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:28,080 bruce spence had a samurai sword it was incredibly sharp he goes along each each child and he has a 580 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:34,160 certain stance about him is it that way or is it that way and he 581 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:43,200 slices off the heads of each child i don't know if he turns or i can't remember what he does but then 582 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:51,200 he you know goes along and you know like this and he goes along and chops off each head and each kid 583 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,840 falls the body just falls and blood is going everywhere i mean if you dna tested 584 01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:04,000 this area there would have to be remains of someone's blood and dna in here they'd have to be 585 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:07,680 somewhere then they break out into a bloodied orchid now these people 586 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:17,360 the whole point behind doing the um having the woman not drugged and not hypnotized is 587 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,640 to pump as much adrenaline through her blood as possible because these people are addicted to um 588 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:29,600 to adrenaline and um and when they drink the blood you know it's 589 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:36,080 you know the baby's blood you know the baby's in distress so it passes on somehow to the kid 590 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:44,080 and uh that's why they you know have this sort of situation going on and the end i was over here 591 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:50,400 and a bloody orgy broke out and everyone started having sex they're sexually aroused by this stuff 592 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:56,160 you've got to understand that they are sexually aroused by this crap i know everyone's just having 593 01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:05,280 sex with people and and kim beazley senior was down here and i was there and he came down and he picked 594 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:15,680 up ahead of one of the kids that had dark hair and i'm i'm standing here and uh beazley picks up this 595 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:22,000 head and he shoves it in my face like this and there's this decapitated head in my face 596 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:30,960 and he says take ye eat and he made me take a bite out of the face 597 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:39,200 and um then everyone just had an orgy it was just disgusting and uh 598 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,040 most vile vile thing you've ever seen in your life 599 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:49,760 and that's bathers city hall 600 01:04:54,000 --> 01:05:02,240 three times i've had to flee leave everything behind three times one okay but three times what 601 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:09,600 i do have to offer is the i can i can share what how i got out yeah that's all i've got deep down 602 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:14,720 she wants to enjoy life i think but you know she finds it very hard in no way did it change 603 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:23,680 mom's personality but how do i put it it grandma phrased it very well how do where so she could place 604 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:31,040 blame where blame was due it's so complex if i want to put it in apply it you know to behavior 605 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:42,400 it's so complex because um i always thought that i was rational and analytical you know that you could 606 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:50,080 sort of make sense of things well sometimes you can't you know it's outside outside those boundaries 607 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:56,080 the great hall at sydney university is where i witnessed the most heinous uh human sacrifice 608 01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:02,400 of all time and the most difficult one to process and talk about in therapy 609 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:10,720 and that is the flaying of a boy who was about five a little blonde boy 610 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:19,760 anthony kidman and four other men were dressed in multicolored robes according to the pentagram 611 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:33,040 um sort of symbol that um i suppose captured uh the inner sydney diocese uh that kidman led 612 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:42,560 his coven uh and so they're multi multicolored robes that i've drawn i was 613 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:50,800 quite young i i tried to stop the ritual as soon as i realized what was going on 614 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:59,200 and what they were about to do to this child uh they crucified him and flayed his skin and pinned it 615 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:06,720 back and then they they strung him up over once they'd done it they did it to him alive once they'd 616 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:16,480 finish that they strung him up over the stage of the great hall um nicole kidman was sitting down to the front 617 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:26,400 uh to look at you know to the to the left as you look at the stage i was sitting more to the back right 618 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:39,040 and i ran up and tried to stop them and bruce spence put his big boot on my put his foot on my neck 619 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:46,080 to stop me and he just laughed at me and everyone laughed at me screaming and carrying on trying to 620 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:56,960 stop what they were doing and uh yeah quite a number of university staff are involved in uh sydney uni 621 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:07,040 chapter i suppose of of the order um which was run by kidman and leonis petroskis was a member of this 622 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:15,440 uh particular coven at one stage and uh he was at sydney university around the same time as 623 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:22,240 anthony kidman so there's lots of prominent coven members who have gone through sydney university 624 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:31,280 it's a very dark place and i would not allow my children to attend here even on scholarship 625 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:41,440 i also remember being taken into the room on an upper floor of the of chemistry lecturers room 626 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:49,200 and they did some something to me there and you could it was overlooking the city um 627 01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:57,840 and uh and i was also taken into a sort of a medical basement area where i was subjected to some 628 01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:03,600 unethical practices and hope michaelson was involved in that she's someone i went to uni with 629 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:09,840 later on at bond university when i was young i remember her clearly dressed in a white robe and 630 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:16,800 assisting a dentist who had used to be i think he formerly worked at auschwitz and it allowed me to 631 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:23,120 sit there and be an observer to my own deprogramming process which is phenomenal you know like that 632 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:30,800 false military he's a really military programmer and reprogrammer in adelaide thompson yeah that 633 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,960 evil mongrel david thompson he um he couldn't believe it he said you're quite conscious are you 634 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,920 quite conscious for all this when you're talking because i went through the process and described 635 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,080 everything as requested i just answered the questions he said you're quite conscious that well 636 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:47,200 yeah i've always been quite conscious there's been no civil oh this is you know an amnesia for 637 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:54,080 what we just talked about and that was my saving i could ignore it and you know live for the moment 638 01:09:54,640 --> 01:10:06,400 as you say but i know i couldn't sleep at night so this is a very memorable church i remember this 639 01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:10,160 i came here with veronica the place was packed 640 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:19,280 and i witnessed a heck of a ceremony and veronica was the grand dame and she was 641 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:25,040 my mentor and i really liked her a lot red-headed lady 642 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,760 she had something to do with uh 643 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:37,280 i don't know some sort of girl school or something like that and i saw her ritually sacrificed here in 644 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:48,160 front of all the dignitaries the head being up this end on that image uh is no accident that's the 645 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:54,160 way you face on an on an altar when you ritually sacrifice someone the head's always up this end 646 01:10:55,280 --> 01:11:01,120 and it's called the left-handed path so they always use the left hand and they start with the upper chest 647 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:10,960 area and she's dying i actually was so distraught i collapsed up behind this side of the altar and um 648 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:17,360 everybody thought oh that was great because it's a sign of affection and that we had a 649 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:23,440 proper bond i succeeded her as grand dame and um 650 01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:27,840 um yeah this is distressing 651 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,280 of course when i left um 652 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:45,280 it left them with no one that they trained up in time 653 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:52,560 um to you know to succeed the grand dame position veronica actually died quite young 654 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:59,520 and it was her choice she'd had a gutful and she wanted out and she didn't know how else to get out 655 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,400 i think of the song you can check out anytime you like but you can never leave 656 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:10,240 she chose to check out it's the only way out for her and she's a really nice person 657 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:16,080 i think she was connected to saint sophia college but i can't remember well enough 658 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:22,960 i know she had some role to do with girls school or girls dorm at the end i had to compose myself 659 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:30,320 despite the fact she was laying there dead with blood everywhere i had to compose myself i had no choice 660 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:50,320 and they stuck some robe on me and something on my head i don't know anyway this is really really really upsetting