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When I was really little as far back as I can remember I was sexually abused and the sexual abuse went into child pornography but as a little child it was so natural to me to be in a sexual mode all the time that reaching out when I saw someone aroused was just a normal thing for me to do.

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My sexuality was never suppressed I was never told that's wrong I was never you know it was encouraged.

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So I just grew up thinking that was that was the norm.

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With the abuse that I went through it was as though my spirit was removed from it you know like it took flight.

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It was a safe place one that was actually a flow while my body was being directed by other people and ended up you know being involved in things I know way I would have participated in.

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It was early evening when they played most dangerous game.

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It was early evening when they played most dangerous game.

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I was stripped of my clothing.

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I was allowed to wear tennis shoes.

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And told that I could have.

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It was early evening when they played most dangerous game.

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I was stripped of my clothing.

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I was allowed to wear tennis shoes and told that I could have a head start and begin running before I would be hunted down.

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My exposure to it resulted in my believing I had no place to run and no place to hide.

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That seemed there were no limits to what could happen in my existence at that time.

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I was the most extreme.

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most extreme, one of the most extreme situations I think ever, ever survived.

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Greetings and salutations. Mark Phillips and Kathy O'Brien have been through a lot.

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Kathy has had some extraordinary experiences in the mind control program and Mark came

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along and pulled her out of the situation. So without further ado, if you will please

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give a warm round of applause to Mark Phillips and Kathy O'Brien.

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When I was a really young child growing up in Muskegon, Michigan, this would be the early

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60s. I was born in 1957. My father had been sexually abusing me as far back as I can remember.

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And he often bragged of substituting his penis for my mother's nipple while I was an infant.

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So my sexuality was heightened from a very, very early age. And I also developed what

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is known as dissociative identity disorder. It was formally termed multiple personality

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disorder, but has since been redefined because it's not multiple personalities, but the shattering

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of a personality. And a compartmentalization of memory, of trauma, too horrible to comprehend.

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Childhood sexual abuse is certainly too horrible to comprehend. There was no place for that

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in my mind. This compartmentalization of memory was what the government was interested in because

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they figured that if a person couldn't think to bring to mind abuse, they wouldn't be able

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to think to bring to mind government secrets, government perversions, or anything else they wanted compartmentalized

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in the brain. My experience as a mind control slave on a White House Pentagon level was extreme.

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I was totally robotic. I had no capacity to think for myself. I didn't have any free thought

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whatsoever. I didn't even have the ability to question, to reason, or consciously comprehend

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what I was involved in.

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What I was involved in.

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What I was involved in.

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What I was involved in.

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Mark how do you feel being in Arkansas, right now?

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I'm nervous as a kid in a room full of rock and tears.

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Why is that?

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This place is dangerous, and I'm not too pleased with actually being here.

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I don't know how many times we've been in situations where we weren't sure if we were going to make it through it.

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I couldn't count.

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I can't either, but this is definitely one of them.

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It's over the line.

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It's one of the worst.

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Because when you start this process, this is what gets everybody killed, is the investigation process.

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And that's not cool.

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We're in it.

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We're on the back of the tiger, and we can't get off.

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We've got to finish this.

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What we got here, Stephen, is somebody who's a top world-class businessman in his own business arena.

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This guy's not somebody you want to mess with.

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Now, he's been threatened many, many times.

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He's gotten into a couple of gunfights.

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I strongly urge you to think very carefully about your questions.

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And don't attempt to try to fool him by putting him on camera, except maybe in a silhouette or something.

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Would you like to know a couple of things?

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I want to know everything.

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If you're looking for validation in terms of what Mark and Kathy have laid on the table.

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Hey, is it real?

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Yeah, it's real.

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And when you consider that you have members of the judiciary, law enforcement, high-level place business people, politicians, involved.

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You understand what I'm just saying to you?

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It's people who shape how you see the world, tell you what's important, what's not important.

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And if you choose to take a deep look at it and do your own research, fine.

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You'll find out for yourself.

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Hope you're fast on your feet.

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And hope you're capable of dodging bullets, because you might run into something.

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You're just serious people.

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Every time I turn the proverbial corner, Stephen, I ran into stuff that was just totally, 100% outside of my realm of experience and hence of believability.

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I mean, it's bad enough to hear this stuff, but it's even worse to get it validated.

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Thank you very much.

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I love you.

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Kathy, you ready?

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When I was 22 years old,

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my vaginal muscle, it was cut.

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And then once that happened where there was more movement with the muscle,

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the muscle can actually protrude out the vaginal opening.

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And that was carved by somebody that was a very controlling person

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and was aware of the effects of trauma in the human mind.

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Did they use an X-Acto knife to do that?

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Yeah, a series of them.

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I didn't have any anesthesia, so I remember it very distinctly.

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Is there a lot of bleeding?

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It was so uncomfortable. I remember crawling into the bathroom and getting in the bath tub.

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It seems to me like more of a ritualistic type of carving,

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and not just carving but an actual face, you know, something into there.

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See the part that sticks out?

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There's a little, like, it's like a really long nose.

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And then right above it are two eyes, and there's a mouth that smiles underneath it.

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Mostly what was done was what is considered outside of the vagina on the vulva.

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There were several incisions made, which made one flap of skin that looks like a nose,

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and slits were cut in to look like eyes and even a mouth.

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I don't know.

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I've been through the worst of anything.

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Yeah. Well, I'm not afraid of anything except maybe not getting the word out of that.

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You're being stirred as a fear.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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And this word is getting out regardless.

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I mean, we want big.

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I'ma you.

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this right here is dragon's breath these are all armor-piercing exploding shells

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this thing would make an armored personnel carrier uh uh completely debilitated you know new york

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second as they say and you keep it in your bedroom i keep it right beside my head along with a 45

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loaded with similar shells not that i'm paranoid it's just that you know i'd like to squeeze one

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last one off if somebody wants to come in here