1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:11,880 Do you think there was or could have been a CIA conspiracy to remove you from office? 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,640 I don't know. 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,160 I know many people think so. 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:23,560 I would say that I've found it difficult to understand why the CIA, which apparently 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,800 had advanced knowledge of the break-in, didn't inform me. 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:34,780 I've found it difficult to understand how it could have been that at least two of those 7 00:00:34,780 --> 00:00:43,300 involved had CIA connections, and nevertheless that it was not brought to my attention as 8 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:45,880 far as the break-in occurring. 9 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,300 I must say, too, the CIA had motive. 10 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:56,000 It was no secret that I was dissatisfied with the CIA, with its reports and particularly 11 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,240 their appraisals of Soviet strength and our other problems around the world. 12 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,800 Do you think they feared you? 13 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,700 No question about it, and they had reason to. 14 00:01:03,700 --> 00:01:07,760 I was going to shape up that organization and the Defense Department, the whole government 15 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,720 for that matter, but particularly that one. 16 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,940 On one occasion I said I thought we could cut a third of the people out of the CIA and do 17 00:01:13,940 --> 00:01:15,180 a better job. 18 00:01:15,180 --> 00:01:20,440 I didn't want to weaken it, as unfortunately it was castrated in the post-Watergate era. 19 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,900 I wanted to strengthen it. 20 00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:25,540 I wanted to get rid of some of the dead wood and so forth, and they knew it, so they had 21 00:01:25,540 --> 00:01:27,500 a motive. 22 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:33,500 I'm not prepared to say whether there was a conspiracy or not. 23 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:39,500 I would only say that it should make a fascinating study for an investigative reporter. 24 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:45,300 He won't win any prizes by writing anything that would not be anti-Nixon, but on the other 25 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:51,340 hand, it would perhaps be historically interesting. 26 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:55,500 If there was such a conspiracy, do you think that reporter would ever live to write about 27 00:01:55,500 --> 00:01:56,500 it? 28 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:58,660 Is it the kind of thing that will ever come out? 29 00:01:58,660 --> 00:02:05,860 I have a feeling that all of this talk that the CIA is going to knock off those that will, 30 00:02:05,860 --> 00:02:11,260 shall we say, reveal some of their covert operations, those in this country, I think that's exaggerated. 31 00:02:11,260 --> 00:02:15,060 I think that may have been the case in times past, not now.