1 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:22,000 This is the only passage in the Bible in which Jesus Christ says that a man who 2 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Pedophiles is the worst option, I guess. Otherwise... 3 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Why? 4 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Someone from the criminal underworld got in touch with me, told me about a girl willin... 5 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:43,000 I began by removing the girl from a criminal environment and finding her a place to sta... 6 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:56,000 What happened when you found out you were pregnant? What were your first thoughts? 7 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:09,000 I started looking for a solution. I immediately knew I couldn't have the child... 8 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:45,000 I wanted to sell that child for spare parts to brothel, to pedophiles. I didn't give a 9 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Of course. It's pretty common in Germany. 10 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Meaning? 11 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Meaning such small kids are first put up with a family that raises them until they turn 12 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Do you have any emotional attitude toward the baby? 13 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:34,000 No, no. I'm trying to think practically. 14 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,000 No, no. 15 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,000 What do you feel when you look at your belly? 16 00:03:50,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Nothing. Disgust. I don't like it at all. I'd like to get rid of it. 17 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Because it's slavery. It's a tie. It's sleepless nights. A baby's not a dog. You ... 18 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Which is more profitable? Selling the child for organs or to a brothel? 19 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 For the mother, selling the child as an organ donor. 20 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Yes, I do. 21 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,000 All in all, how much is the heart, for example? 22 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:04,000 I know the liver costs 70,000 polislottis. It's a black market. 23 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:10,000 So it's obvious only wealthy people who have a lot of money are involved. 24 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 What's the greatest demand? 25 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:26,000 The liver, the heart, the retina, the eyes, the retina. 26 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Do you know the price of the retina or the heart? 27 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:34,000 The heart is worth almost 70,000, but euros. 28 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Honestly, if it wasn't for this child who is merchandise, I wouldn't be able to do it. 29 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:57,000 But the thing is, if there's a possibility to earn quite good money on it, why not? 30 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:03,000 They offer 50,000 to 150,000. It depends. 31 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Without intermediaries, I'd say it's enough. 32 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Enough for what? 33 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,000 To make up for those nine months. 34 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Where else could a young person like me earn 50,000 in nine months? 35 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:43,000 No, but if I could afford it, perhaps a nice car? 36 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Clothes, a phone, new shoes. 37 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Did you get any offers? 38 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 We are offered 80,000. 39 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,000 It seemed so at the beginning. 40 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Especially since I knew she'd have to bear that child and then go through a recuperat... 41 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,000 So I knew she'd need money. 42 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Therefore it seemed attractive, but later I did more research and figured out someone ... 43 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 What's the name of the portal? 44 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Its name is "Sperm Dauners, Let's Make Babies". 45 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,000 It's a website where different people post their ads. 46 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Women who want to give away or sell their children. 47 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Women seeking co-parenting. 48 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:15,000 After I'd done that, I received replies from four families, but I also read other posts. 49 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,000 I liked two of them because they were looking for girls. 50 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Every time a little baby is involved, we know these ads have been posted by people who w... 51 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,000 And they don't care where the baby will end up. 52 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Our post was among them. 53 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,000 So you didn't care much about the children's fate? 54 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:02,000 No, I don't really. I care about my own child. My child is most important to me. 55 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Do you believe in God? 56 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 No, I don't believe in God. 57 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Do you believe people get punished for doing such things later in life? 58 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 No, I don't. 59 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Hundreds of times. 60 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:31,000 So as to not think of the unborn baby as an object and a treated like a human being, I 61 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Do you think your baby has feelings? Do you identify yourself with it? 62 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:41,000 No. No, I don't. 63 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:52,000 A baby like that can't understand pain, fear, or happiness. 64 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,000 At least that's what I think. 65 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,000 I don't identify myself with it at all. 66 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Do you know it can hear your voice now? 67 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Yes, but I'm not giving it a thought. 68 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 And the beating of your heart? 69 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Why not? 70 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Why would I? I don't feel a need for that. There's no point in thinking about it. 71 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:29,000 I'm here and the baby's there. We are two completely different worlds. At least that... 72 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Did you give your baby a name? 73 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,000 No. 74 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:48,000 I don't know. Perhaps I'll ask a midwife to come up with something. I have no idea. 75 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:56,000 I'm not thinking about those things yet. 76 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Once I got involved in all this, I gave the baby a name. 77 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,000 What is it? 78 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Very nice. 79 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Let it be Marcellina then. 80 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:27,000 I thought I'd like to think and perceive him or her as a human being, and not as a 81 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:45,000 I believe that giving it a name would, in a way, cause you to show interest in the who... 82 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:09,000 That's why I avoid such situations. I haven't given it a name. I haven't thought about a 83 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Do you consider a possibility that your emotions might change and you'll regret it? 84 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 No. 85 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:28,000 I was afraid they might open the borders at any time and the mother would flee abroad ... 86 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:34,000 In order to have control over this, I had to get to the trafficker. 87 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,000 You know what? 88 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Or transplants? 89 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:51,000 I guess it is possible. But someone would have to set you up with a person. 90 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Even more so since those child brothels for pedophiles are mainly run by Muslims. 91 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Why? 92 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:11,000 They have wives or husbands who are 5 or 10 years old. So it's not a problem for them. 93 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Therefore it's the Arabs that mainly run those places. 94 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,000 How can such an interview be arranged? 95 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,000 I'd have to ask around. 96 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Do it then. 97 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 I will. 98 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 What did the child trafficker say? 99 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Help me understand what I need to do. 100 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Hold on. 101 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Go on Skype and then what? 102 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Yes, go on Skype. 103 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Enter your login. 104 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,200 - Go on Skype, and then what? - Yes, go on Skype. 105 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,200 Your login is an email address that has been set up for the sake of this conversation. 106 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:54,200 - What's the address? - The address is greyass2020@hotmail.com. 107 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:59,200 Then you need to enter password to your Skype account. 108 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,200 It starts with a capital letter, demoralization. 109 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:11,200 Your nickname, your fake Skype first and last name is Greyzone. 110 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,200 He will... 111 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,200 - Greyzone has already been set up? - Yes. 112 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:24,200 - I don't have to do anything? - Exactly. This is your first and last name, Greyzone. 113 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,200 You will receive an invitation from him. 114 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:40,200 The guy needs to feel safe. He's also afraid. 115 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,200 Weeks passed, but the Skype conversation didn't come through. 116 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:49,200 Why does he keep postponing our interview? Is it so hard to set up? 117 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:58,200 I received a message. It was on Sunday or Saturday. 118 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,200 On Friday, or on Saturday, he sent me a message that he was very sorry, 119 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,200 but he had to go away to pick up some merchandise. 120 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:17,200 I figure he wasn't going to pick up a cardboard of smokes or vodka, 121 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,200 but he was going to pick up a child. 122 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:26,200 For him, a living child, a living human being is merchandise. 123 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,200 because that's what it is for him. 124 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,200 It's an object that can be monetized. 125 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:42,200 He'd sell his own mother for organs if she wasn't so old. 126 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,200 No one wants her organs anymore. 127 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:49,200 - Does he have his own child? - Yes, a son. 128 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,200 Do you think he has any human feelings for him? 129 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:04,200 So it's more of a business partnership rather than a father-son relationship. 130 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,200 So his son kidnaps children, too. 131 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:14,200 He delivers them, despite the fact the whole thing takes place in Germany or in the 132 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:20,200 There are organized rings here that work non-stop, like ants, to track those women. 133 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:31,200 To see what they do, where their children are, where they leave them. 134 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:36,200 Therefore, I believe this practice is meticulously planned and carried through. 135 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:42,200 - It's a whole... - It's a whole process. 136 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,200 It's a whole team of people that look for those women, right? 137 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,200 Of course it is. 138 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,200 and very often looks for the girls himself. 139 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,200 Allegedly. 140 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Where? 141 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:07,200 In parks, stores, restaurants, cafes. 142 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:13,200 Allegedly, after so many years in the business, 143 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,200 who'd at least be willing to talk to him. 144 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:34,200 He identifies them like police officers are taught to identify criminals. 145 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,200 - Yes. - As they walk the streets to identify thugs. 146 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,200 So does he find his victim? 147 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,200 To find the right girl. 148 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:55,200 There, when he's already talking to the girl, 149 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,200 he told me that pretty soon, over a cup of tea or something, 150 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,200 he's able to tell whether he's wasted his time 151 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,200 or could take it a step further. 152 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,200 How much do those girls charge for this? 153 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:19,200 About two or three thousand euros. 154 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,200 Five thousand euros if they are resistant. 155 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:30,200 But, it often happens, 156 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,200 they get no money at all. 157 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:40,200 You mean they're conned, or are they so keen to get rid of the problem? 158 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,200 They are told they'll get paid in arrears, 159 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,200 so they give their child away and are left with nothing? 160 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,200 Yes, or they get 100 euros to keep them smiling. 161 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,200 Just to have them get a glimpse of cash. 162 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,200 So he doesn't even have to bother to kidnap the children, 163 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,200 as it would be a serious thing, 164 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,200 including the police hunt and everything, yes? 165 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,200 if there is demand for a particular commodity, 166 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:21,200 it is sometimes a matter of hours. 167 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,200 Then the whole machine he's involved with 168 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,200 focuses on delivering a specific child at a specific age, 169 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,200 so they have to kidnap it. 170 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:36,200 How many brothels do they have? 171 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,200 How many children are in each of them? 172 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,200 Last time I asked, 173 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,200 there were seven of them in one of the German brothels. 174 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,200 Do those children live there? 175 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,200 Yes. 176 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,200 Do they even leave the brothel? 177 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,200 No. 178 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,200 So they never go out for a walk, right? 179 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,200 They do go outside with a chaperone that watches them, 180 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,200 So it happens inside a house, right? 181 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,200 Yes, in a house. 182 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,200 A regular house. 183 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,200 So a child ends up there at the age of about four? 184 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,200 Yes, about four. 185 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,200 Why four? 186 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,200 It depends on what the clients want. 187 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:34,200 And then the child is stuffed with drugs? 188 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,200 Yes, they're stuffed with drugs, 189 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,200 cocaine or amphetamine. 190 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:45,200 But the child usually has intercourse with a pedophile 191 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,200 about once a week only. 192 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,200 That's why there are so many of them. 193 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,200 The same business. 194 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,200 There must be a lot of children. 195 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,200 Why only once a week? 196 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,200 because it might kill them. 197 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,200 So they're given drugs only during an intercourse? 198 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,200 Before an intercourse, whenever the need arises. 199 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,200 It's such a hermetic world that they know even several days earlier 200 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,200 when and which pedophile will come and ask for a child. 201 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,200 Until the age of 12 or 13? 202 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,200 Then what? 203 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,200 They are sent to a regular brothel. 204 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,200 Because such a child is no longer able to change their life. 205 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,200 Their mind is so fucked up, 206 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,200 and so is their world, 207 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,200 that the only thing they can do is go to an adult brothel. 208 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,200 And how long do they stay there? 209 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,200 As long as they can. 210 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,200 If they're good at what they do. 211 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,200 Or do they remain locked up? 212 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:05,200 They may go out, 213 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,200 just like in the brothels in Poland. 214 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,200 But a child like that generally becomes a social misfit. 215 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,200 They suffer from social phobias, they have never gone to school. 216 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,200 They are taught on the spot what to say, 217 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,200 or how to sign their name at the most. 218 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:23,200 After many weeks, 219 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,200 the agent told me the trafficker would contact me by phone that night. 220 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,200 I'm really glad you finally called me, 221 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,200 and we can talk directly. 222 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,200 Because with intermediaries, 223 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,200 intentions are never fully clear, and so on. 224 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,200 I'd rather meet in person. 225 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,200 That'd be great. 226 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,200 Just tell me when we could do it. 227 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,200 Do you have any idea? 228 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,200 Do you have any plans? 229 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,200 Or is it still up in the air? 230 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,200 I have to stay here for a few days. 231 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,200 I have some business to attend to. 232 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,200 and it seemed we'd never get to meet. 233 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,200 No, nothing. 234 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,200 What do you think might have happened? 235 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,200 I was afraid it was some sort of setup. 236 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,200 Do you know how many Polish children have no graves? 237 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,200 So fucking many. 238 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,200 The trafficker would change the time of our meeting several times. 239 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,200 Finally, 30 minutes before the interview, 240 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,200 he told me where to go. 241 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,200 What kind of words do those guys use? 242 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,200 Do they say merchandise and stuff? 243 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,200 How does it work? 244 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,200 That's the way. 245 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,200 That's the way. 246 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,200 What's the term? 247 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,200 A dollar, usually. 248 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,200 Does the gender matter? 249 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,200 Or are boys called that, too? 250 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,200 Merchandise is usually used for the boys. 251 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,200 And dolly for the girls. 252 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,200 For him, a ten-year-old boy is too old. 253 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:13,200 A very little child, a three- or four-year-old boy, 254 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,200 or a three- or four-year-old girl, 255 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,200 likes to touch 256 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:32,200 And the intercourse is between 257 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,200 the thighs and the bones. 258 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,200 What does the child's day look like? 259 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,200 How many times a day or a week do they have sex? 260 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,200 It depends. 261 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,200 You can't have a child for an hour. 262 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,200 At least for several hours. 263 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,200 Does it go on day after day? 264 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,200 Or are there any breaks because of the drugs they're given? 265 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,200 No, no, no. 266 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,200 Or does it basically depend on the number of clients? 267 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:17,200 If one child is exhausted, there is another one. 268 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,200 Yes, the child must eat something. 269 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,200 They're also given some vitamins, something nutritious. 270 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,200 Are they drip-fed? 271 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,200 Yes. 272 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,200 Do they get vaginal abrasions or something? 273 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,200 They get some medical care. 274 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:46,200 Someone takes care of them so they function and look well. 275 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,200 So it's kind of breeding, human breeding. 276 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,200 Yes, exactly. 277 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,200 Sometimes the children refuse to eat. 278 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,200 Then they get injections. 279 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,200 It's something like a PTSD? 280 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,200 Kind of. 281 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,200 Are they injected with nutrients or drugs? 282 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:16,200 There may be drips or it may be injections. 283 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:31,200 Though some of them are not that good. 284 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,200 As one of them pulls their hair until they do what she wants. 285 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,200 Or respond when she calls out their names. 286 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,200 Because at the beginning they don't respond to anything. 287 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,200 Not even their names. 288 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,200 As if the kids completely turned off. 289 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,200 I know of about four. 290 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,200 In which countries? 291 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,200 Belgium. 292 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,200 Germany. 293 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:12,200 Poland. 294 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,200 Where is the one in Poland? 295 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,200 Tri-City. 296 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,400 Tri-City. 297 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,900 In a regular house as well? 298 00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:29,400 Yes. 299 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:35,920 Those intercoursees take place before a child is taken away for organs. 300 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:42,160 Does the client have to pay more for that? 301 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,160 I believe the price amounts to... 302 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,160 I mean, really, the whole team is engaged. 303 00:27:53,160 --> 00:28:01,160 So it must be around half a million euros. 304 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,160 And he's aware the child becomes useless after that. 305 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:20,160 No. Seven or eight years old or good for regular sex. 306 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,160 And those little kids are separated. 307 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:32,160 From what age can you have an intercourse with a child without risking tearing them 308 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,160 That is when recycling begins. 309 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,160 Recycling? 310 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:54,160 Yes, at a VIP price. 311 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,160 VIP entertainment. 312 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,160 Blood spilling. 313 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,160 He massacres the child. 314 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,160 Does he murder the child or leave it to die? 315 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:22,160 Whatever turns him on, but then the child is a wreck anyway. 316 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,160 How long can a child survive in such conditions? 317 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,160 How long do they stay in a brothel? 318 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:08,160 Those kids are hooked on drugs, so I'm not sure. 319 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,160 Until they turn 14. 320 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,160 What then? 321 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,160 They get disposed of. 322 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,160 Disposed of. 323 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:27,160 They're usually disposed of because they're no longer eligible for transplants. 324 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,160 Due to drug-related body exhaustion? 325 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,160 Yes. 326 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:40,160 When the child is no longer attractive, but it's useless and can't be used for spare 327 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,160 What exactly have you seen? 328 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,160 Selfification during sex is a standard thing. 329 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,160 That is a common fantasy. 330 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,160 To be doing it to the very end. 331 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,160 What about non-standard things? 332 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,160 In order to get to the truth, I spent several dozen hours talking to him. 333 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:26,160 I kid that already has some understanding of what's going on around them, because to so... 334 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:36,160 a 12-year-old is aware of certain things. 335 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:58,160 Or death, actually, that in a way, his reality becomes totally messed up. 336 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:16,160 so that the kid takes their own life during an intercourse. 337 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,160 How? 338 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:39,160 They grab their hands and put them on their neck and squeeze them by themselves. 339 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,160 That's what turns them on. 340 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,160 You know, I guess. 341 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,160 All of them have their favorite fluffy toys. 342 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,160 Some have their favorite pillows. 343 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,160 The kids often fight over their fluffy toys. 344 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,160 They're afraid of being touched. 345 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,160 They are. 346 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160 They seem to know. 347 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,160 They're even afraid to touch their own bodies. 348 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:33,160 I don't know any more cold-blooded woman than those from that brothel. 349 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,160 The ones that take part in all this? 350 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,160 Are they ordinary women? 351 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,160 Do they have children, husbands, their own homes? 352 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,160 Or are they young individuals? 353 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,160 No, no. 354 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,160 More mature? 355 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:58,160 They're also European, and... 356 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:04,160 At least two of those that I have personally seen have brought their own children there. 357 00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:17,159 I look pretty worn out because I've been traveling. 358 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:23,159 There are two girls there sitting on my lap. 359 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:28,159 Those kids took to me so much that I love children dearly. 360 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:33,159 When I entered, I got pretty scared of them. 361 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:40,159 They caught my attention, and my eyes smiled at them. 362 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:45,159 My eyes, not my face. 363 00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,159 You just kept putting in words. 364 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:53,159 One grabbed my leg, the other grabbed my other leg. 365 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:55,159 I sat on the bed. 366 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:59,159 How old were they? 367 00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:00,159 Roughly? 368 00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:02,159 About ten. 369 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:14,159 Both of them, and both were jealous of each other. 370 00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:20,159 How did they manifest their jealousy? 371 00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:40,159 When talking to the trafficker, I knew I was looking at the devil in the eye. 372 00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:43,159 Do those people believe in Satan? How do they worship him? 373 00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:46,159 Are they deep in that ocular shit? 374 00:35:53,159 --> 00:36:04,159 I mean, they don't greet each other by just saying hello or good morning or gluten-tog. 375 00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:07,159 Or whatever normal people say when they greet each other. 376 00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:10,159 That's not what they say. 377 00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:13,159 So what do they say? Are they fucking Satan or what? 378 00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:23,159 They use completely different two words. 379 00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:24,159 What words? 380 00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:26,159 I'm not going to utter them. 381 00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:31,159 Why? 382 00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:34,159 I promised myself I'd never say them. 383 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:40,159 What if I turn the camera off? 384 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:57,159 Have you ever seen any Satanist artifacts when you went to visit those individuals? 385 00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:03,159 Any ocular objects like pentagrams andverted crosses or something? 386 00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:06,159 There's a pentagram under that inscription. 387 00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:07,159 Really? 388 00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,159 That was fucking there, man. 389 00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:13,159 Yes. 390 00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:17,159 There are those words I told you they use to greet each other. 391 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:20,159 That kind of hour, good morning. 392 00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:24,159 And there's a pentagram under them. 393 00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:31,159 There is the evil one behind the children's suffering. 394 00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:36,159 It's obvious. 395 00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:41,159 It's not a quick and easy process. 396 00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:47,159 It doesn't take a day or a week. 397 00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:53,159 From my experience, I can tell you, it took us 18 months to work on a mother. 398 00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:56,159 She didn't know about it. 399 00:37:56,159 --> 00:38:00,159 But there was always someone watching her, whether she was taking good care of her 400 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:14,159 At the same time, we pressed her relentlessly to abandon that bastard. 401 00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:17,159 Did she sell her child to a brothel? 402 00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:20,159 She didn't fucking care. 403 00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,159 She took the dough and that was it. 404 00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:25,159 How much did she get? 405 00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:33,159 How old was the child? 406 00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:37,159 Four or five. 407 00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:40,159 And she sold the kid? 408 00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:47,159 Yes, she was happy everyone had left her fucking alone, including the kid. 409 00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:53,159 She thought the kid was up for adoption by a good family. 410 00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:02,159 The kid was ugly. 411 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:05,159 It wasn't very beautiful. 412 00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:12,159 And generally, she treated it in such a way 413 00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:20,159 that even I got to detest the kid as a result. 414 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:30,159 She thought the kid was adopted, but in fact, it went for spare parts. 415 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:33,159 Whatever comes to light becomes known. 416 00:39:33,159 --> 00:39:38,159 I wanted the devil to reveal himself and show his true face. 417 00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:46,159 How much would I have to pay for a donor kit if I wanted to buy one from you? 418 00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:53,159 How much do you get? 419 00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:59,159 I get 15,000 euros for a broad with a kit. 420 00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:02,159 For carrying through the whole process of adoption? 421 00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:04,159 Yes. 422 00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:12,159 So if I ordered a child from you, how long would I have to wait? 423 00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:21,159 Let's say I do or don't. It'll be faster if I don't. 424 00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:23,159 So just a child, right? 425 00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:24,159 Yes. 426 00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:27,159 Two weeks. 427 00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:30,159 Contrary to what you might think, it's hard work. 428 00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:34,159 So I don't get a hard on when I think about those girls. 429 00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:39,159 I'm not in a hurry, but I do get pressed. 430 00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:54,159 Then I can see the nose and the eyes of a cute little doe before my face. 431 00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:58,159 Those little pets look so sweet. 432 00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:02,159 How long does it usually take to bring a girl around? 433 00:40:55,599 --> 00:41:00,599 "How long does it usually take to bring a girl around?" 434 00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:03,599 "Bring a girl around?" 435 00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:08,599 "I mean from the moment you meet her to when she decides to hand the child over." 436 00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:14,599 "Two or three meetings?" 437 00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:19,599 "Unbelievable. How long are those meetings?" 438 00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:36,599 "There are several of us. We help each other. I get help. We support each other and do t... 439 00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:40,599 "There's a reason why we're there." 440 00:41:49,599 --> 00:42:00,599 "Okay, so what are the options from there? Brothel or spare parts?" 441 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:05,599 "It depends. If there's demand, they will even pull a child out of the brothel." 442 00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:09,599 "From the brothel for spare parts?" 443 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:10,599 "Yes." 444 00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,599 "So the parts are a priority?" 445 00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:26,599 "I post and add that I'm a businessman working abroad. I visit Poland once a mont... 446 00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:32,599 "I want to be a sponsor and girls reply. There are lots of replies." 447 00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:39,599 "You test them? It depends on what you're after, whether we're after the organs or a 448 00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:49,599 "Then you go and hunt the girl down." 449 00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:56,599 "It sometimes happens those children are handicapped in some way." 450 00:42:56,599 --> 00:43:01,599 "So you start working on that." 451 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:06,599 "Those girls are not particularly educated nor intelligent." 452 00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:11,599 "The child stands in their way." 453 00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:23,599 "So what quality should an ideal child dealing girl possess?" 454 00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:31,599 "First of all, she must be selfish." 455 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:41,599 "You can see right away, she's ready to kiss your ass and do anything you want." 456 00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:48,599 "Since it's all about children, you begin by asking, 'Do you have any children?'" 457 00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:49,599 "Yes?" 458 00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:50,599 "What age?" 459 00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:53,599 "Let's say she's got a six-year-old girl." 460 00:43:53,599 --> 00:44:03,599 "And you immediately offer a trip to, let's say, Mazary to sail in a boat there." 461 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,599 "She's on cloud nine." 462 00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:11,599 "You take her there for two or three days, watch her whether she calls the child or h... 463 00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:23,599 "And when she answers her mother's calls, you hear what she says, and how she says things." 464 00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:25,599 "And whether she's pissed off." 465 00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:28,599 "Then her mother calls again, and she's yours." 466 00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:33,599 "You pretend you're having fun, we talk." 467 00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:35,599 "I tell her she's got a cute daughter." 468 00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:38,599 "Of course, I am proud of her." 469 00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:41,599 "I took after her." 470 00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:47,599 "It turns out she has children, and that's when he cuts in." 471 00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:54,599 "Children? What the fuck do you need children for? Why would you take that on your 472 00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,599 "We kind of talk like a friend to a friend." 473 00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:02,599 "But of course, we watch her reaction." 474 00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:11,599 "If there's anything we can do at all, we work on her." 475 00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:18,599 "Yes, it sometimes happens, the girl tells you." 476 00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:25,599 "You know, that fucking kid, it's just fucking trouble." 477 00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:31,599 "And I don't know what to do with this shit and so on." 478 00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:35,599 "Do you think it'll be over once you bear the child?" 479 00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:39,599 "Yes, I think it'll be all over once I have that child." 480 00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:47,599 "It'll go to its world while I remain in mine." 481 00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:49,599 "I'm not going to see it ever again." 482 00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:52,599 "I won't feel it, I won't hear it." 483 00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:57,599 "Many people won't understand it, but..." 484 00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:02,599 "Most of them have never been in such a situation." 485 00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:18,599 "Despite what the women were planning to do after the child was born, 486 00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:21,599 the agent brought a lait for Marsalina." 487 00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:26,599 "Pats, for you?" 488 00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:29,599 "Give me my stuff, I don't care about the child." 489 00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,599 "These pants don't be fucking breathless." 490 00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:38,599 "This is about peace, Paul." 491 00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:40,599 "Do you know why it's here?" 492 00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:42,599 "Because underneath it says 'I love my mom.'" 493 00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:44,599 "Why have you covered it?" 494 00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:46,599 "Because the child won't have a mom." 495 00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:49,599 "But I've not covered 'I love my dad.'" 496 00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:54,599 "We needed a midwife to help with the delivery. 497 00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:58,599 I set up a consultation which, due to the COVID-19, had to be done online." 498 00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:00,599 "Have you been pregnant before?" 499 00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:01,599 "No." 500 00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:05,599 "A girl." 501 00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:07,599 "What is her name?" 502 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:10,599 "Marcessia Marsalina." 503 00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:14,599 "I hope that conversation would stir some emotions in the mother." 504 00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:18,599 "You'll have contractions every five minutes." 505 00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:22,599 "You'll watch them for an hour to see if they're getting stronger." 506 00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:28,599 "The next hour, once again, please, you got distracted." 507 00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:38,599 "It's difficult." 508 00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:42,599 "I'm not getting attached. It's not difficult. I don't care whether it's 509 00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,599 I just don't form any sort of attachment." 510 00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:53,599 "I just want to learn some basic stuff and go and bear that child and end my adventure w... 511 00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:55,599 "I don't want to elaborate on that." 512 00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:07,599 "I approached my interview with the trafficker as if it was a police 513 00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:11,599 "I found about 500 such girls on the internet." 514 00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:23,599 "If a mother goes abroad to give her child up for adoption, the mother ends up in a brot... 515 00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:28,599 "And so does the child." 516 00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:40,599 "A child is a kind of merchandise that brings pure profit as it requires no investments ... 517 00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:46,599 "And when there's a bid for an organ, it goes on an operating table for disassembly." 518 00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:49,599 "The mother also goes for spare parts." 519 00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:53,599 "Were you afraid of meeting such a person?" 520 00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:55,599 "How come?" 521 00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:03,599 "I believe a person should be approached in a holistic manner." 522 00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:08,599 "There's a task to be done." 523 00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:15,599 "Since he's a professional, I also try to be professional without asking unnecessary 524 00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:20,599 "Brief statements, short questions, whatever I need to know, whatever's essential." 525 00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:27,599 "He won me over with his approach and composure." 526 00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:31,599 "Those girls think they'll return to Poland with a lot of money." 527 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:38,599 "They think they'll get rich, but are unaware they're on their way to a brothel." 528 00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:41,599 "They don't know what'll happen to them." 529 00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:47,599 "Or that they'll get hooked on drugs or lose their freedom." 530 00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:59,599 "I didn't give a shit about those girls and their kids. All I cared about was the money." 531 00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:06,599 "The adoption of a child is carried through in such a way that the girl gets married t... 532 00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:13,599 "The Muslim law allows marrying even underage girls." 533 00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:24,599 "He takes the child away to his country, a Muslim one." 534 00:50:24,599 --> 00:50:29,599 "In a legit way." 535 00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:36,599 "In Muslim countries, papers are easy to get." 536 00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:42,599 "For 50 local dollars, you can get any document you want." 537 00:50:48,599 --> 00:50:51,599 "What then?" 538 00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:54,599 "They go to Egypt for a couple of days." 539 00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:59,599 "They get new papers through some formal correction of the name and the last name i... 540 00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:03,599 "And the child returns as a completely different person." 541 00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:06,599 "It returns to Europe, to the brothel." 542 00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:11,599 "And no one is ever looking for that child again that trace is lost." 543 00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:23,599 "And the mother?" 544 00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:25,599 "She goes to a brothel, in Europe." 545 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:29,599 "What does it look like when they bring you kids for sale from Ukraine?" 546 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:34,599 "When a child comes from Ukraine, it gets new papers here in Poland." 547 00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:41,599 "These are another child's papers with an identical ID. Only the photo of the import... 548 00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:49,599 "The child goes abroad with its new Polish ID." 549 00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:55,599 "So you need the ID in case of inspection?" 550 00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:59,599 "Yes, while crossing the border. Just in case." 551 00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:07,599 "Then there are no more problems, because the real child stays in Poland, while the othe... 552 00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,599 "Yes." 553 00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:18,599 "Children are kidnapped only in urgent cases." 554 00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:26,599 "If there's an emergency, someone got ill, there's a problem, and an urgent transplan... 555 00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:29,599 "That's when kidnapping takes place." 556 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:32,599 "Why is kidnapping so rare?" 557 00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:36,599 "Because it's dangerous." 558 00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:39,599 "Dangerous for the organization." 559 00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:50,599 "Because things may happen, and there may be trouble." 560 00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:58,599 "It would be a total disaster if such a kid was found." 561 00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:03,599 "What's the difference whether they find a kidnapped or a regular child in a brothel?" 562 00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:06,599 "Because you may pretend it's not really a brothel?" 563 00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:09,599 "No one is going to admit it's a brothel." 564 00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:21,599 "But you can always account for a regular child." 565 00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:28,599 "Whether the child has been adopted and went through the adoption process with an heir ... 566 00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:36,599 "Rather than admitting the child's been sold or kidnapped." 567 00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:50,599 "The meeting spot is established earlier. It's different with different clients. Eve... 568 00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:56,599 "It happens that they even tear infants apart with their dicks." 569 00:53:56,599 --> 00:54:01,599 "The baby dies." 570 00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:04,599 "In that room?" 571 00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:05,599 "Yes." 572 00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:06,599 "Yes, in that room." 573 00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:21,599 "The moment the client informs he wants to kill the child, a whole group is immediate... 574 00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:27,599 "We schedule it so that everything overlaps, so that we have a recipient ready." 575 00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:31,599 "Whatever you can say." 576 00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:34,599 "Is the child still alive when it's being taken to the operating room?" 577 00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:38,599 "Is that where the organs are retrieved?" 578 00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:40,599 "Yes, there's a special sterile room there." 579 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,519 It's done on the spot in the villa. 580 00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:38,519 Is that where the organs are retrieved? 581 00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:40,519 Yes, there's a special sterile room there. 582 00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:44,280 When they torture those children. 583 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:50,039 The children get broken. Their arms get broken. 584 00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:53,000 Their legs. Their legs get pulled out of the hips. 585 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,200 They often get beaten up. 586 00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:04,360 Torn apart. 587 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,160 Organs. Buttholes. 588 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:14,200 Do you mean those little babies get their legs pulled out? 589 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,400 Yes. 590 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,160 So it's sadism? 591 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,160 Yes, sadism. 592 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,519 Infants always suffer. 593 00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:24,519 They all do. 594 00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:28,200 Later that child is useless. 595 00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:38,680 No, I never do. 596 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:44,120 I believe if you do not think about such things, they never happen. 597 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,640 Older children are exploited for a while. 598 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,840 They're addicted to the drugs they're sedated with. 599 00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:03,160 Older kids. 600 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:09,960 Can't take it mentally. 601 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,440 Also because of the drugs. 602 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,920 They ration them out to make the cost as low as possible. 603 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,000 Because the kids are nothing more than just merchandise. 604 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:32,039 One boy slashed his wrists. He couldn't take it. 605 00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:38,600 All that manhandling and the kind of life he had there. 606 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,039 They did save him, of course. 607 00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:45,880 But he was sent for spare parts. 608 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:53,560 The drugs put children in such extreme psychotic state. 609 00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:00,920 That they hurt themselves. 610 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,800 The kids' clients are very rich. 611 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:11,320 They even come in their own private jets and helicopters from the fuck who knows where. 612 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:16,840 They're picked up at different locations, filthy rich. 613 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,840 They pay a fortune to spend time with a child. 614 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,680 Everything's arranged with a medical team. 615 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,760 They know the child will not survive. 616 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:34,920 And if it becomes crippled for life, nobody's going to look after it. 617 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,840 So it immediately becomes an organ donor. 618 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,840 Those brothels have branches all over the world. 619 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,480 With operating rooms. 620 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,840 They are high security sites. 621 00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,519 They're no regular brothels. 622 00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:05,240 We're talking about huge money here, so. 623 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:10,440 They are perfectly organized. 624 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:15,720 It's not just some dude or madam sitting there. 625 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,720 It's all professionally set up. 626 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,440 Like a corporation? 627 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,800 Yes, like a corporation. 628 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,440 As complex as a corporation. 629 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,440 There must be a medical team on standby. 630 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,320 Someone must look after those kids. 631 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,160 Someone must organize. 632 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:42,200 The transplants and everything. 633 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:47,720 There must also be someone that helps them. 634 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:52,920 Search clients for the organs out. 635 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:56,520 It will continue. 636 00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:02,920 The demand is huge and they won't change. 637 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,400 To stop me from saving the child, the devil struck at the mother. 638 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:12,120 Darkness that the mother colluded with turned against her and pushed her into depression. 639 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,720 At some point the mother told us she wanted to kill herself and the baby. 640 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,600 What if they say November 9th? 641 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,840 Then you'll know it's going to happen. 642 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,520 What's the problem? 643 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,520 and you'd want to get rid of the baby sooner. 644 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,960 I can't promise that I won't hurt myself. 645 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,400 It's starting to mess my head up. 646 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:39,720 Are you having suicidal thoughts? 647 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,440 Yes, I do. 648 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,800 Where did they come from? 649 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:44,840 From all this. 650 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,160 How could suicide help? 651 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,680 It'd give me a peace of mind. 652 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,600 Yes. 653 00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:03,000 Do you know what impact it'll have on you if the USG guy tells your do sooner? 654 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:19,480 But it may be delayed too, right? 655 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,120 I'm not able to, how I'll behave in such a situation. 656 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:24,840 I just can't. 657 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,840 We need a good USG test result. 658 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:35,960 Once she has it, perhaps it'll show that she's due on say the 20th or the 27th 659 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,920 or even the 9th, November or the 5th of November. 660 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,400 Once she has the results in her hand, it may be easier for her. 661 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,840 Are the suicidal thoughts getting worse? 662 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,200 Yes. 663 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:59,880 Have you already pictured in your mind how you're going to do it? 664 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:03,160 I have a friend who's acquainted with those things. 665 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,720 He wouldn't say what kind of substance it is, but I know it's effective. 666 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:17,400 He prepares specific med cocktails and for the right price, 667 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,079 A suicide package? 668 01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:23,400 Yes. 669 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,840 How do you find him? 670 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:30,920 Through a friend who had problems before and wanted to commit suicide. 671 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,000 She used his services and she's no longer here. 672 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,039 How much is such a suicide package? 673 01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:40,920 380 zalates. 674 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:48,200 Are you going to kill yourself and the child just because you can't wait 12 days? 675 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,600 I need the C-section because I can't promise I won't hurt myself. 676 01:01:54,600 --> 01:02:00,680 Doesn't it thinking about her help, doesn't she give you any motivation or relief? 677 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,000 This child gives me nothing. 678 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,760 Absolutely nothing at all. 679 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,440 I want to get rid of it. 680 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,880 I'm not identifying myself with it. 681 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,160 I'm not thinking about it. 682 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,360 I'm not looking at it. 683 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,640 I'm not talking to it. 684 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,160 I don't pay attention to it. 685 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,200 I don't want it. 686 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,400 I just don't want it. 687 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:28,760 For me every day, when I get up in the morning and look at myself, at my belly an... 688 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,200 it is just another day filled with pain. 689 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:57,400 Fearing for the child's life, the only solution was a day-to-day C-section. 690 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:09,160 It's my bed. 691 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,920 I've already signed all the papers. 692 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,240 Some kind of an amnesis for the anesthesiologist. 693 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,440 I've had dinner. 694 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:27,320 I got my supper. 695 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,520 Typical hospital food, not too tasty. 696 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,240 You can't have everything. 697 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,920 I'm not alone in the room. 698 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,000 Is it a boy or a girl? 699 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,520 The lady's having her second child. 700 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,680 I don't know if it's a boy or a girl. 701 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,880 Anyway, she tried to have a conversation with me. 702 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,680 I told her the truth about my situation, and she never spoke to me again. 703 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:06,520 As for the baby's test results, they were good. 704 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:12,840 Almost three kilos of a girl on my mental state is getting better. 705 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:22,840 I feel more relieved, but I'm getting stressed about the very surgery. 706 01:04:38,039 --> 01:04:46,200 After CTG, I'm supposed to get washed and put on a shirt for the C-section. 707 01:04:46,200 --> 01:05:01,640 And come see the midwives. 708 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,440 I have no thoughts about the child. 709 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:23,000 Do you have any doubts? 710 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,680 I don't think so. 711 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:27,720 No, I don't have any. 712 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:34,039 I don't, because I have no doubts for now. 713 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:45,880 Have you thought whether you'll ever have children again? 714 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:56,360 Generally yes, but for now, after reaching this point and considering what's going on, 715 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,079 I don't think I want to have a child at all. 716 01:06:05,079 --> 01:06:16,280 Marcelina was born at 12 p.m. 717 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:22,120 Healthy. She scored 10 points and weighed three kilograms. 718 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,800 Okay, let me get up slowly. 719 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,400 How are you feeling? 720 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,960 I'm good. 721 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:56,840 Have you seen the baby or haven't you? 722 01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,039 No, I had a screen in front of my face. 723 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:14,039 I can't even describe it. 724 01:07:14,039 --> 01:07:17,800 Nerve-wracking in what sense? 725 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,800 Because of the childbirth or because of the surgery? 726 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:22,440 I don't know. 727 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:29,160 Everyone in the whole atmosphere were kind of grave a bit. 728 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,840 It took 40 minutes. 729 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,920 It was horrible at the beginning because I couldn't breathe and my heart was rushing. 730 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,560 Then it got so serene. 731 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,160 I almost drifted away. 732 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,520 I didn't feel anything. 733 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,160 I didn't know you feel nothing at all. 734 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:53,720 First, I could feel some jerking in my stomach and after that, 735 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:57,160 basically nothing at all. 736 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:07,000 Do you feel relieved after the baby's been removed from your body? 737 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,360 Yes, I feel greatly relieved. 738 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:18,280 The C-section was yesterday. 739 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,000 Today I feel way better. 740 01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:32,680 I was being fed meds through a drip and some oral pills plus hydroxazine because I 741 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:53,640 too dopey to wrap my head around it. I don't really miss her but I would like to see her 742 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:59,640 but I know it to do no good. We need to see that child. I'm not sure I can take it. I 743 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:14,760 Later when I'm able to go there myself do what I've got to do 744 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:21,640 film her take some pictures and leave. I think I'll be good but to lie with her in ... 745 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:30,039 recovery room. I get it but could you spare her 10 minutes couldn't you? What am I 746 01:10:16,119 --> 01:10:22,039 I don't know how she's doing. I just want to get out of the hospital as soon as possibl... 747 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,800 so I'm sitting here 748 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:50,760 thinking it does me no good. I must occupy myself with something. I asked myself if t... 749 01:10:58,039 --> 01:11:03,800 came across a moving appeal of another mother to the kidnapper of her child. I decided t... 750 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:09,399 touch with her. On the day you came into my life and changed it into a nightmare 751 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:31,640 have grown even bigger. Finding Tomok is the sense of my life. Do you know how it hurts... 752 01:11:46,279 --> 01:11:53,319 and we were in the course of building our house. The first thing I did when I entere... 753 01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:10,600 I looked around but he was nowhere to be seen. I put down my shopping bag with 754 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:34,760 the steps not knowing what to do with myself. I didn't know where to go. In the dark I 755 01:12:46,039 --> 01:12:56,600 You do not fear for yourself. It's your priority to find the missing child 756 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:17,720 punish me and spare the child. Don't let him feel the pain of separation 757 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:35,399 It's a living being. You've got to fend for it. You can't give up. 758 01:13:35,399 --> 01:13:43,159 So, 30 years later, I'm still fighting and I believe my son is alive." 759 01:13:43,159 --> 01:13:48,680 There is an age progression image of Tomok in his 20s. 760 01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:04,359 at the age of 22. In 2015, we set up a Facebook profile, 761 01:14:04,359 --> 01:14:16,039 Tomok's profile, a missing person. The moment my appeal to the kidnapper came out 762 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:27,880 We got a message with a photo from what later turned out to be a fake account. 763 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:32,680 That Tomok, that missing Tomok, was now Ryan Pitts. 764 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:42,039 It also included his whereabouts. When I opened that photograph, I almost passed out. 765 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:57,399 The two men were so similar that the Polish police decided to contact the FBI. 766 01:14:57,399 --> 01:15:01,880 Do you think the FBI did all they could? 767 01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:10,439 They checked it just to get us off their back, so we leave them alone. 768 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,640 FBI said they checked Ryan Pitts' birth certificate. 769 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:24,039 Because he got married there, he had to have a valid copy of his birth certificate, right? 770 01:15:24,039 --> 01:15:32,279 And they sent us information that his birth certificate was checked 771 01:15:32,279 --> 01:15:34,520 and that it was an original document. 772 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:40,760 And that was it. There is no prior information about him. 773 01:15:41,319 --> 01:15:49,720 No place of birth. Even his date of birth differs on different sites on the Internet. 774 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,159 So it really makes me wonder. 775 01:15:53,159 --> 01:15:58,760 And all the information that you can find about him starts from the age of five. 776 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:05,239 In my opinion, FBI failed. They dropped the case too early and didn't explain the 777 01:16:17,079 --> 01:16:20,600 were patrons of an orphanage located in their town. 778 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:26,520 I guess switching one kid with another wouldn't be difficult at all. 779 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:33,880 Ryan Pitts was a soldier decorated by President Obama. 780 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:49,000 And there was an interview with his grandmother who told Ryan's story. 781 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:59,399 And in that interview, she made it clear that Ryan had to fight for himself 782 01:16:59,399 --> 01:17:03,079 since his early childhood. 783 01:17:05,319 --> 01:17:13,960 My husband's DNA and mine are in the general database. 784 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,760 And they are available for verification. 785 01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:22,840 It's generally known that all the U.S. Army soldiers submit their DNA. 786 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:29,079 So the DNA results are available in the U.S. military database. 787 01:17:29,079 --> 01:17:31,239 But no one wants to give us access to it. 788 01:17:31,239 --> 01:17:34,520 So there is the possibility to verify that. 789 01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:38,920 Ryan himself doesn't want to give his consent. 790 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:44,199 He doesn't agree for DNA verification. 791 01:17:44,199 --> 01:17:48,199 And we cannot force him to do that. 792 01:17:48,199 --> 01:17:54,119 Only the court would be able to do it. 793 01:17:54,119 --> 01:17:58,359 Ryan Pitts lives in the USA. 794 01:17:58,359 --> 01:18:01,239 He has a wife and a child there. 795 01:18:01,239 --> 01:18:03,800 If it turns out that he's the kidnapped boy, 796 01:18:08,359 --> 01:18:09,960 and would be deported to Poland. 797 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,920 He wouldn't have the right to stay there 798 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:18,840 because it would mean that all the documents of his origin had been forged. 799 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:23,640 He'll do everything to avoid these tests 800 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,159 because they would mean the end of his family. 801 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:50,760 I came to the conclusion that in order to have 100% guarantee that Marcellina would ... 802 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,520 I had to save her by myself. 803 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:57,399 I moved to the negotiation phase and I asked the evil one what I had to do to save a 804 01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:13,000 What deal do I have to make with you to stop it from happening? 805 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,760 Oh, fuck. 806 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:26,359 Then we would be taking money. 807 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,279 First of all, you wouldn't be talking to me. 808 01:19:32,279 --> 01:19:40,680 I doubt it because it would be, I think that 809 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:45,960 it would be Mr. 810 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:51,640 Is there anything apart from money that could motivate them? 811 01:20:00,359 --> 01:20:04,920 But you work in a different sector, so you won't make a deal with them. 812 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,079 They only care about money. 813 01:20:07,079 --> 01:20:09,079 What? 814 01:20:09,079 --> 01:20:10,199 What type of a deal? 815 01:20:10,199 --> 01:20:13,720 Some sort of exchange, a slut for a slut? 816 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:17,239 A body for a body? 817 01:20:17,239 --> 01:20:20,279 So I'd have to give them some girl. 818 01:20:20,279 --> 01:20:22,680 You'd have to do something bad. 819 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,039 Sell a girl for a kid? 820 01:20:24,039 --> 01:20:25,319 You'd have to do something bad. 821 01:20:25,319 --> 01:20:26,840 Or another kid for a kid. 822 01:20:27,559 --> 01:20:31,239 Or what if I exchanged an adult person for that kid? 823 01:20:31,239 --> 01:20:32,520 100%. 824 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:33,399 That would also work? 825 01:20:33,399 --> 01:20:34,520 100%. 826 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:35,800 It would work for sure? 827 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:36,199 Yes. 828 01:20:36,199 --> 01:20:40,199 But for what you want, you'd have to pay additionally. 829 01:20:40,199 --> 01:20:44,440 So here, there would be some amount to pay. 830 01:20:44,440 --> 01:20:48,600 Or an exchange. 831 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,279 Or barter. 832 01:20:50,279 --> 01:20:56,680 So if I offered a guy or a woman, I'd have to pay additionally? 833 01:20:57,159 --> 01:20:59,720 Because they would be worth less than a child? 834 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:01,960 You'd have to pay additionally one way or another. 835 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:06,440 But if someone was in an urgent need for organs, 836 01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:11,800 you wouldn't afford such a deal. 837 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:20,440 If we made a deal with those people that we'd sell them a child 838 01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:25,159 and they'd give us money, we wouldn't be able to back out. 839 01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,520 You don't give a shit about us and that child? 840 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:35,720 They only care for real American dollars and nothing else. 841 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,319 These people are devoid of human emotions. 842 01:21:39,319 --> 01:21:44,440 So if they are able to sell an alive child for organs, 843 01:21:44,440 --> 01:21:47,880 they will not think twice to cut our throats. 844 01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,159 It won't be a problem for them whatsoever. 845 01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:53,479 I solved that problem. 846 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,119 and no one cut anybody's throats. 847 01:21:54,199 --> 01:21:56,199 I took the baby over from the traffickers, 848 01:21:56,199 --> 01:21:58,199 and I saved it from being sold, 849 01:21:58,199 --> 01:22:01,199 and no one cut anybody's throat. 850 01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:03,199 Soon the mother came to a decision 851 01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:06,199 to give the baby up for legal adoption. 852 01:22:06,199 --> 01:22:10,199 The mother didn't care what would happen to the baby. 853 01:22:10,199 --> 01:22:13,199 Taking into consideration the set of circumstances, 854 01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:15,199 I recommended to her that a Catholic facility 855 01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:17,199 should take care of the adoption. 856 01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:19,199 You have to fill in the application. 857 01:22:22,199 --> 01:22:23,199 she will be taken. 858 01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:24,199 It will be a Catholic one. 859 01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:27,199 Yes, I really want a Catholic facility. 860 01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:30,199 Then you'll have to write a few sentences. 861 01:22:30,199 --> 01:22:31,199 The reason? 862 01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:36,199 I don't expect you to describe anything in detail. 863 01:22:36,199 --> 01:22:40,199 But it must be here for sure. 864 01:22:40,199 --> 01:22:44,199 You have to put it in words somehow. 865 01:22:44,199 --> 01:22:46,199 I cannot tell you what to write. 866 01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:48,199 You have to come up with it yourself. 867 01:22:50,199 --> 01:22:53,199 I was waiting for the date of the court hearing 868 01:22:53,199 --> 01:22:55,199 during which the mother was to confirm 869 01:22:55,199 --> 01:22:58,199 if she was actually giving her baby up for adoption. 870 01:22:58,199 --> 01:23:01,199 In the meantime, she went to a Catholic adoption center. 871 01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:07,199 How's baby? Do you have any information? 872 01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:09,199 She's healthy, pretty. 873 01:23:09,199 --> 01:23:10,199 Is she? 874 01:23:10,199 --> 01:23:12,199 Everything is really good. 875 01:23:12,199 --> 01:23:13,199 I have one picture. 876 01:23:13,199 --> 01:23:14,199 Could I see that picture? 877 01:23:14,199 --> 01:23:16,199 I have it somewhere in my phone. 878 01:23:16,199 --> 01:23:17,199 Okay. 879 01:23:20,199 --> 01:23:23,199 You fucking smashed me into small pieces. 880 01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:26,199 At one point, the trafficker realized 881 01:23:26,199 --> 01:23:29,199 that during our meetings, he told me too much. 882 01:23:29,199 --> 01:23:31,199 You fucked me up. 883 01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:33,199 Really fucked me up. 884 01:23:33,199 --> 01:23:36,199 Because I see the way you look at me. 885 01:23:36,199 --> 01:23:38,199 Then I see in your eyes. 886 01:23:38,199 --> 01:23:39,199 You know what? 887 01:23:39,199 --> 01:23:41,199 I don't want to see you anymore. 888 01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:42,199 I don't want it. 889 01:23:42,199 --> 01:23:44,199 I saw your eyes. 890 01:23:44,199 --> 01:23:46,199 The stuff we talked about, I do it. 891 01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:51,199 Do you know that I've already called all my friends? 892 01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:56,199 And I asked them if they can imagine me as a pedophile. 893 01:23:56,199 --> 01:24:03,199 Do you know how fucking bad I feel about that? 894 01:24:03,199 --> 01:24:07,199 A man has no chance to win with a devil 895 01:24:07,199 --> 01:24:10,199 because the devil is million times more intelligent than we are. 896 01:24:10,199 --> 01:24:14,199 What we deal with is horrible, manipulative, merciless power. 897 01:24:18,199 --> 01:24:20,199 then devil doesn't stand a chance. 898 01:24:20,199 --> 01:24:23,199 And it roars angrily like a lion 899 01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:26,199 because it knows that it has already lost. 900 01:24:26,199 --> 01:24:28,199 Unable to get to me, 901 01:24:28,199 --> 01:24:31,199 the devil attacked the child trafficker. 902 01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:34,199 Do you know I wanted to fucking end my life? 903 01:24:34,199 --> 01:24:36,199 I really wanted to fucking do it. 904 01:24:36,199 --> 01:24:37,199 I called my kid. 905 01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:38,199 I called my son. 906 01:24:38,199 --> 01:24:41,199 And I told him, 907 01:24:46,199 --> 01:24:49,199 I already cut my wrists, you know. 908 01:24:49,199 --> 01:24:53,199 Because of our conversations, I cut my wrists. 909 01:24:53,199 --> 01:24:56,199 I fucking cut my wrists. 910 01:24:56,199 --> 01:24:58,199 I'm sorry. 911 01:24:58,199 --> 01:25:03,199 Finally, the day of the court proceedings came 912 01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:06,199 during which the mother was supposed to confirm her consent 913 01:25:06,199 --> 01:25:09,199 to give Marsalina up for adoption. 914 01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:11,199 I wanted to have proof that this would happen. 915 01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:16,199 We've been waiting here for 28 minutes already. 916 01:25:16,199 --> 01:25:32,199 Do you agree to that statement? 917 01:25:32,199 --> 01:25:33,199 Yes, I do. 918 01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:36,199 And this consent is given in full conscience, isn't it? 919 01:25:36,199 --> 01:25:40,199 Okay, let's print the protocol. 920 01:25:42,199 --> 01:25:47,199 Goodbye. 921 01:25:47,199 --> 01:26:06,199 If I managed to save one child,